Pod Insights The Ed Mylett Show Dr. Joe Dispenza - The Mind-Body Connection About this episode Dr. Joe Dispenza is an expert and teaching people how to heal their mind through his incredible techniques. Dr. Joe is an expert at the mind, body, and heart connection. He has mastered the convergence of neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics.
Dr. Joe Dispenza is teaching the world how to empower and heal our mind through meditation and mindfulness. His studies have proven that when well practiced these tools can put us on the path to understanding and breaking deep-rooted bad habits and even heal illnesses. As a NY Times best-selling author, Dr. Joe has written You Are the Placebo: Making Your Mind Matter (Hay House, 2014), which explores our ability to heal without drugs or surgery, but rather by thought alone.
He has also written Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One (Hay House, 2012) and Evolve Your Brain: The Science of Changing Your Mind (2007), both of which detail the neuroscience of change and epigenetics.
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1:54 Ed Mylett? Welcome back to Max Out with Ed Mylett. Super excited to bring this gentleman to my left here today because if you take his IQ and you take mine and you average them together, you may actually get an average IQ out of the two of us here. So, this is Dr. Joe Dispenza and Joe is, I think he's a peak performance expert is what I would really call you. I think you help people reach their peak in their ability to perform in their life, but he's really an expert at the mind-body-spirit sort of connection and helping you really be a happier version of yourself. And so, we're going to talk about all the details of that today with you. So, Joe, thank you for being here today.
2:25 Joe Dispenza? You're welcome and happy to be with you.
2:26 Ed Mylett? That's wonderful. And we are at Bulletproof Labs, by the way, in Santa Monica, California, which is one of the most impressive places I have ever been in, in my life, in terms of the cutting edge of human performance as well. And so, check out Bulletproof Labs when you get an opportunity to do that. So, let's max out our time here together today.
2:42 Joe Dispenza? Alright, let's go.
2:43 Ed Mylett? So, you say all kinds of things that I'm fascinated with, but I think you're fascinating because you've become this expert in a field that's very unique really to you. And the way you explain things, people always want to know how to perform better, how their brain works. And I think you show them how to do it, but also why it works. And I'm fascinated by that. So, but you didn't start out in this industry, right? So, before we go to all the great stuff, how the heck did you become you? Like, I've read about you. You were actually, you're a chiropractor prior, correct?
3:12 Joe Dispenza? Yeah, I started out as a chiropractor.
3:14 Ed Mylett? So, tell everybody about you just a little bit.
3:16 Joe Dispenza? Well, let's see. I got started on this, I think, most of the time when we wake up, we need a wake-up call. And I was in Palm Springs, California. I was in a triathlon. I was on a biking portion of the race and I was making a turn and I was passing two cyclists on the corner. And there was a cadet, a police officer, kind of pointing at me, waving on to make the turn, like this. And he had his back to the oncoming traffic. So, when I made the turn, a four-wheel-drive Bronco going about 55 miles an hour caught me from behind and catapulted me out of my bike.
3:52 Ed Mylett? Oh, my gosh.
3:52 Joe Dispenza? Anyway, when you land that hard on your rump or on your back, the force of that compression takes the columns of the vertebrae and compresses them. So, I had broken six vertebrae in my spine.
4:04 Ed Mylett? Oh, my goodness.
4:04 Joe Dispenza? And I had bone fragments on my spinal cord and the very top segment, the eighth thoracic vertebrae, I broke T8, T9, T10, T11, T12, and L1. And T8... Took the compressive force and I flexed and so when I flexed it compressed that vertebrae more than sixty percent and the arch where the spinal cord passes through broke like a pretzel. So I had multiple compression fractures of my thoracic spine. I had bone fragments on my cord because when you compress a volume of something, the volume has to go somewhere. So it went back on the cord and the neural arch of the aethoracic vertebrae was compressing the cord as well.
4:45 Joe Dispenza? So anyway, typical procedure for something like that is called a Harrington rod surgery. And they cut off the back parts of your vertebrae. It's called a laminectomy. In my case, it would be from the base of my neck to the base of my spine. And then they screw in these stainless steel rods and the action of screwing into the bone causes a cantilever. It kind of pulls the column off the cord in some cases and opens up the nerve supply. And then they take bone fragments from your hip and they paste it over the top and they hope for the best. And so I had four opinions from four of the leading surgeons in Southern California and it was unanimous that I needed that procedure.
5:30 Joe Dispenza? Now, I was in a lot of pain, I had some neurological problems, and they told me if I didn't have the surgery, I would never walk again. So I decided against the surgery and I thought, I didn't want to live handicapped, I didn't want to be in a wheelchair, and I didn't want to be addicted to pain medications. So I thought, I might as well take a chance here. So I didn't really know what I was doing at the time.
5:53 Ed Mylett? I was gonna say, the chance on what? Did you know what the alternative was?
5:55 Joe Dispenza? Well, I think that, I believed that this voice kept coming up in my head saying, "The power that made the body heals the body." And I thought, well, God, this power is an intelligence, and intelligence is consciousness, consciousness is awareness, awareness is paying attention. It must be paying attention to me.
6:13 Ed Mylett? Can I ask a question? Did you think this way prior to that incident?
6:16 Joe Dispenza? Yeah, to some degree. I think that most of us are philosophical to some degree. You know, we have a philosophy about life. But when you're initiated, that means you have to initiate that philosophy, so.
6:29 Ed Mylett? Love that.
6:29 Joe Dispenza? I had to take what I knew and weigh it against what I didn't know. And I think one of the worst places we wind up as human beings is indecision. And so I had very, very strong authorities telling me, you're never gonna walk again. You have a head injury, I don't know why you're deciding against the surgery. If it was my son, it would be on the operating table. Anyway, I checked out of the hospital and I began the process. I wasn't going anywhere, I wasn't doing anything. I was laying face down and I said, "I'm not gonna let any thought slip by my awareness that I don't want to experience. And if this intelligence is truly a consciousness, I have to be present with it."
7:13 Joe Dispenza? And so what I did was I just started reconstructing my spine and my mind, vertebrae by vertebrae. And then, you know, I'd start off doing that and the next thing you know, I'd start thinking about, should I sell my home, should I sell my practice? And I realized that the template, the design that I was creating wasn't complete. So I'd stop, start all over again, get frustrated, then it would get harder.
7:37 Ed Mylett? It sounds like me when I began meditating.
7:39 Joe Dispenza? Yes, the same thing, yeah. Because meditation requires being present, and that's a skill. You gotta practice it. So I didn't have a teacher at the time, I was just going off my intuition. And it would take me three hours to go through the whole entire process just to complete it. And I'd start all over because I wanted it to be a complete model. So, six and a half weeks of just a dark night of the soul. Because I think when we're traumatized or we're under stress, we tend to focus on what we don't want to have happen and what we do want to have happen. And I think in survival, we're always preparing for the worst-case scenario. So it was a battle that I couldn't get my mind to do what I wanted to do. The end of six and a half weeks, one day.
8:22 Joe Dispenza? I went through the whole entire thing without breaking my focus and I swear it was like hitting a golf ball right in the sweet spot. It just clicked and I clicked and from that moment on, my body started to heal.
8:34 Ed Mylett? That's incredible.
8:35 Joe Dispenza? I started to have less pain, my neurological symptoms were diminishing. And the moment I started to correlate the changes that were happening in my body with what I was doing inside of me, I started doing it with more passion and more enthusiasm. Anyway, I was back on my feet in nine and a half weeks. I was back training again at 12 weeks.
8:54 Ed Mylett? Come on.
8:55 Joe Dispenza? I was back in my practice and, you know, they told me that I would have to wear this body cast for a year, six months to a year. And, well, gosh, I put it on once and took it off and said, "There's just no way I'm gonna wear this." And so I just made a deal with myself and the deal was, in those lonely nights where I couldn't sleep, if I'm ever able to walk again, I'll spend the rest of my life studying the mind-body connection and mind over matter and pretty much that's what I've been doing.
9:24 Ed Mylett? That's amazing. So that's the, see, I'm a layman, so I start out introducing you as a peak performance person, because I see everything through performance, I guess, right? But that's incredible because the sophisticated version is that you're this, you've studied this convergence of like neuroscience, quantum physics, epigenetics, sort of the convergence of that, right? What would you say you do? In other words, if someone said to you, because I know we talk a lot about healing, what would you say? Someone says, "What do you do?", what would your answer be to that?
9:50 Joe Dispenza? I get that question every day, every week when I'm on a plane. Someone sits next to me, they go, "So what do you do?", and then I wind up talking to them for four hours. I teach people really a way to live a better life and to heal themselves of past scars, to provide the tools for them to realize that they're more than they really perceive themselves to be. And I believe that your personality creates your personal reality.
10:19 Ed Mylett? Can you elaborate on that? I was gonna ask you about that.
10:21 Joe Dispenza? Yeah, so your personality is made up of how you think, how you act, and how you feel. So the present personality who's watching this show has created the present personal reality called their life. Means then if you wanna change your life, your personal reality, that means fundamentally you have to change your personality. That means you have to start thinking about what you've been thinking about and change it. You have to begin to become aware of your unconscious habits and behaviors and modify them. And then you have to look at certain emotions that keep you anchored to the past and decide if those emotions belong in your future. And I think after all these years, Ed, I think that most people try to create a new personal reality as the same personality and it doesn't work.
11:05 Joe Dispenza? You know, you literally have to become someone else. So the process then, most people, they're thinking the same thoughts, they're making the same choices, they're demonstrating the same behaviors, they're creating the same experiences that stamp the same networks of neurons into the same patterns, all for the familiar feeling that they call themselves. And if you keep doing that over and over again, there's a principle in neuroscience that says that nerve cells that fire together, wire together. So people begin to hardwire their brain into very finite signature, into these automatic programs. Turns out by the time we're thirty-five years old, we become a set of memorized behaviors, emotional reactions, beliefs, perceptions, unconscious attitudes that function just like a computer program.
11:48 Joe Dispenza? So when people wanna change, they're using five percent of their conscious mind and they can think positively all they want, but the programs are running subconsciously telling them that they're negative. So the only way to do that then is to get into the operating system. And getting into the operating system of that, where those programs exist, requires then, people beginning to do some inward work. If you sit down and you disconnect from your outer world, you close your eyes, we play some music in the background, you sit your body down and not smelling anything, or tasting anything, or experiencing anything, or feeling anything, and you're not thinking about or anticipating the future, or remembering the familiar past.
12:31 Joe Dispenza? That moment, that elegant moment where you fall into the present moment is where the magic happens. And so after looking at enough brain scans in the process of studying the transformation, yeah, I call that getting beyond yourself because when you disconnect from your present personal reality and personality, now you're ready to create something else. And so what thoughts do you want to fire and wire in your brain? What behaviors do you want to demonstrate? And the act of rehearsing the behavior begins to install the neurological hardware in your brain, primes it to look like the experience has already happened.
13:10 Ed Mylett? Yes, yep. Let's step back for a second. I want to stay on that. I want everyone to be with us. So a couple of things you said, because you said a ton there, right? And so this is, I want everybody to catch a couple of things here. A basic thing, a base model, is that people don't think about what they think about enough. In other words, just taking a second to think about what you actually think about is a breakthrough experience. Just something that simple, right? And we have, you can correct me, but we have somewhere around 80,000 thoughts a day. Is that about right? And at some point, 70% of them, I just want everybody to understand this, are the same thoughts on every...
13:41 Joe Dispenza? Ninety.
13:41 Ed Mylett? Ninety percent of them. So 90% of those thoughts are the same thoughts on a daily basis. And we wonder why, if we really are what we think about, why our lives continue to sort of perpetuate themselves over and over again.
13:52 Joe Dispenza? You got it. You got it.
13:53 Ed Mylett? And so we have these patterns. You've talked about beginning to consciously choose and decide what these thoughts and behaviors are that you would like. So is there a way specifically, maybe one technique you give today outside of some of the seminars and books that we're going to talk about in a minute? But how do you break that pattern? And how do you become conscious of getting new thoughts that serve you, that create that person that you want to be?
14:13 Joe Dispenza? Look, it's really simple.
14:15 Ed Mylett? Okay.
14:15 Joe Dispenza? Your brain is organized to reflect everything you know in your life. Your brain is a record of the past. It's an artifact of everything you've learned and experienced in this moment. Feelings and emotions are the end product of past experiences. And we can remember experiences better because we remember how they feel. So most people wake up in the morning and they start remembering all their problems. And those problems are connected to certain people and certain things at certain times and places. The moment they start thinking about those problems, they're thinking in the past. Those problems have an emotion associated with them. And the moment they start feeling those emotions, the body is the unconscious mind, doesn't know the difference between an experience that's creating an emotion and the emotion the person's fabricating by thought alone.
14:58 Joe Dispenza? Now, thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings are the language of the body. And how you think and how you feel creates your state of being. So most people's entire state of being, when they start their day, is already in the past. So you have a choice. The choice is, you're either defined by a vision of the future or you're defined by the memories of the past. And when you decide to say, "Okay, I'm gonna change", and you decide one thing, "I'm not gonna eat this food, I'm gonna wake up earlier, I'm gonna do something aerobic, I'm not gonna have sugar after 6 o'clock", whatever it is, whatever choice a person makes, the moment you make a choice to do something differently,
15:42 Joe Dispenza? and the hardest part about change is not making the same choice as you did the day before, get ready, because it's going to feel uncomfortable. It's going to feel unfamiliar, there's gonna be some uncertainty and unpredictability. And that's the moment the game is on. Yes. So then, most people, their body has been conditioned emotionally to be the mind. So now, the body says, "Wow, I'd rather hang on to my guilt than take a chance in possibility. I'd rather live in fear than trust in the unknown." So, so once the person feels uncomfortable... The body goes, "Whoa, wait a second, we're out of the program here." And body starts influencing the mind. That's right. So it says, "Start tomorrow, you'll never change." Right.
16:27 Joe Dispenza? "You don't have the money to do this, you're not good enough, your mother told you you were this." "Your father's fault, it's your ex's fault." You know, all of the voices that come up. Now, here's the deal. If you respond to those voices, those same thoughts, as if they're true. By the way, they're always going on behind the scenes of your awareness. But now they're amplified because you're outside your comfort zone. You believe in that thought. That thought's gonna lead to the same choice, which is gonna lead to the same behavior, which is gonna create the same experience and produce the same emotion. And the person's gonna say, "This feels right." No, no, no, that feels familiar. Going from the old self to the new self is a neurological, it's a biological, it's a chemical, it's a hormonal, it's a genetic death of the old self.
17:08 Joe Dispenza? And people will say to me, "In that void, in that unknown, I can't predict my future." And I'll say to them, "The best way to predict your future is to create it." I love it. Not from the known, but from the unknown. I love it. So, close your eyes now and think about that vision. Once you start thinking about that vision of your future, you're activating the creative centers in your brain. And naturally, you begin to think about putting yourself in the scene. Yes. And the act of doing that, when you're truly passionate and truly present, the moment you're defined by that vision, when the thought in your mind becomes the experience, you begin to feel the emotion of the event before it's made manifest. Yes.
17:51 Joe Dispenza? Now, you're giving your body a sampling, a taste of the future. And now, if a thought and a feeling create a new state of being, you're combining a clear intention with an elevated emotion. And now you're beginning to change your biology. And you're seeing a whole new landscape that you could never see before because you're no longer viewing your future through the lens of the past. I love this. Now, this requires then, something really specific. Because most people will wait for their wealth to feel abundance. They'll wait for their success to feel empowered. They'll wait for their new relationship to feel love. They'll get all these things when? Yes, so, so, so think about that. The absence of getting those things...
18:35 Joe Dispenza? Causes people to live in lack their entire life.
18:37 Ed Mylett? Right.
18:38 Joe Dispenza? And so they're waiting for something outside of them to change how they feel inside of them. And if they're not creating a new life, then they're not applying the proper principles. Then they keep all their manifestations, all their dreams at arm's length. Think about this, if you get up feeling gratitude, if you get up feeling empowered, if you get up feeling whole, if you get up feeling unlimited, why would you worry about whether it was gonna come or not? You would feel like it already happens, right?
19:06 Ed Mylett? How do you do that when you are stepping into the, you know, if you give us one strategy, one thought, one technique that keeps us? Is it just, for me, candidly, for me, it's just always been because you're explaining to me in a much more deep level, things I've understood through my own experience, right? Everyone that's listening to this has had an experience where these formulas, these concepts, and these ideas have worked for you. They have, you've all had an experience like this. For me, it's just being conscious of it. For me, it's literally for me, taking control of it and being conscious about, how would you answer that?
19:35 Joe Dispenza? Well, I absolutely agree with you, Ed. You're absolutely right. We're wired to create. This isn't something that you have to try to do.
19:43 Ed Mylett? Right.
19:44 Joe Dispenza? You just have to get beyond the memory of your past and all the associations to create a new future. Now theoretically, that sounds really easily, but everybody's done it at least once in their life. What happened? You get a wild idea, you get a crazy idea, and you think, what would it be like to be happy? What would it be like to be in love? What would it be like to be rich? Whatever it is.
20:03 Ed Mylett? Yes.
20:03 Joe Dispenza? And you, all of a sudden, you ask that question, and you turn on the creative center in your brain.
20:08 Ed Mylett? That's right.
20:08 Joe Dispenza? It turns on.
20:09 Ed Mylett? Yes.
20:09 Joe Dispenza? And then, now the frontal lobe is the boss, it's the CEO, it's the symphony leader. And the frontal lobe, as an executive, has connections to all other parts of the brain. Now, when you ask that question, it's gotta answer it. So it's gotta look out over the landscape and see, what kind of raw materials do I have? Well, you only have a few things, knowledge you've learned and experiences you've had. So it begins to call up different networks of neurons, and it begins to seamlessly piece them together. And you get a vision in your mind, that's called intent. And if you're passionate, you start to feel the feelings of when it happens. Now, you're giving your body that energetic boost.
20:45 Ed Mylett? Mm-hmm.
20:46 Joe Dispenza? Now, everybody's done this. The moment you've said that, no one can talk you out of it. No person.
20:51 Ed Mylett? That's right.
20:51 Joe Dispenza? No thing, no experience. It's, you're possessed by it.
20:54 Ed Mylett? Mm-hmm.
20:54 Joe Dispenza? So then what happens next? You start writing down.
20:57 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
20:57 Joe Dispenza? All the choices you need to make.
20:59 Ed Mylett? Okay.
20:59 Joe Dispenza? All the things you gotta do.
21:01 Ed Mylett? Okay.
21:01 Joe Dispenza? All the goals and experiences you want in your future. And every time you write one of those goals or experiences down, you start to feel more of those emotions. And now, you're basically assembling more of your future. Now, the astute person does something really amazing. They start learning more information. You wanna be wealthy? Study wealthy people. You wanna be healthy? Study healthy people. As you begin to gain more knowledge, you're adding more stitches into the three-dimensional tapestry and you got more raw materials to dream in new ways. Now, here's the part that, that is the most important. Take out a piece of paper and say, "What thoughts do I have to stop thinking? You know, I can't, I'll start tomorrow, I'm too hard, I don't feel like it, I have a headache, I gotta go to sleep, I'm tired."
21:44 Joe Dispenza? List those thoughts and become so conscious of those thoughts that you would never let one of those thoughts slip by your awareness unchecked by you.
21:52 Ed Mylett? Can I say something about that? I wanna jump in on that. One of the powers of writing those thoughts down is you completely eliminate and weaken their influence over you. They become minimized when you write them. They lose their power over you when you grab control of them by writing them down. It's a significantly powerful exercise is to write down those thoughts.
22:08 Joe Dispenza? Yeah, from a neuroscientific standpoint, what's called metacognition. Because the moment you can observe the thought and become conscious of it, you're no longer the program. Your consciousness observing the program and you begin to literally objectify your subjective self. And now you're pulling out. So then, write down the choices you have to stop making.
22:28 Ed Mylett? Mm-hmm.
22:28 Joe Dispenza? Look at the things you have to stop doing. Do you complain? Do you make excuses? Do you blame other people? What do you do? List those things and be really honest with yourself. What experiences do you have to stay away from, from certain people at certain times? Stay away from them so that you are not in the environment that triggers it. And now, here's the most important point.
22:47 Ed Mylett? Okay.
22:48 Joe Dispenza? Write down those emotions that keep you anchored to the past. Because those emotions are literally residue from the past chemically. So then, the moment you start feeling suffering, the moment you start feeling guilt, the moment you start feeling unworthy, the moment you start feeling despair, the moment you start feeling any of those emotions, you're back in your past.
23:08 Ed Mylett? Yes.
23:09 Joe Dispenza? And you can't see the future. You're thinking within those emotional states. And we've looked at enough brain scans to say that when you think within a certain emotion, you're gonna make your brain worse.
23:20 Ed Mylett? Thoughts are physical. What are thoughts when they happen in your body? The power of this is great.
23:25 Joe Dispenza? The stronger the emotion that you feel from any condition in your environment, the more you pay attention to the cause. So the higher the threshold of the emotion, the more the brain narrows its focus on whatever it is in the environment does it. And the brain takes a snapshot, and that's called a memory. So now, people think neurologically within the circuits of the past experience, and they feel chemically within the boundaries of those emotions. Now you say to the person, "Well, what happened?" The person say, "This person did this to me, that person did that, then this happened." And the latest research on memory says that 50% of what you talk about in the past isn't even the truth. That you don't have the same brain then.
24:06 Joe Dispenza? So you make stuff up, which means now you're reliving a past that you didn't even have, just to embellish it, to produce the emotions, to reaffirm your limited state.
24:16 Ed Mylett? People are hearing this, they're thinking, "I would like more of this. I'd like the details." So we're doing Cliff Notes here, right? And so, you're learning, but you could be immersed in some of these things too. How does someone find you? This man travels all over the world. He does programs all over the world. People get healed physically, emotionally, spiritually. How do they find you? How do they interact with you and find out about your books, your programs, and things you can do to help them?
24:39 Joe Dispenza? Sure, my website is just DrJoeDespensa.com.
24:44 Ed Mylett? We'll put it up on the screen for everybody too.
24:46 Joe Dispenza? I changed the format of the events this year because I did 23 workshops, progressive workshops, that initiate people into the work last year. And now they're an online course, you know. So they can study online.
25:00 Ed Mylett? Okay.
25:00 Joe Dispenza? And they can practice all the meditations. They have a ton of resources with all the science and information. And it'll prepare them for our week-long events. And now, I'm not interested in keynotes. I'm not interested in conferences. I've outgrown all that. I want to be with doers. And I think that this is a time in history where it's not enough to know. I think this is a time in history to know how, right? And so, we teach these workshops all over the world. I just came from Sardinia. We had a beautiful event with a lot of people there. And, boy, we saw some pretty amazing things.
25:36 Ed Mylett? I want to encourage all of you to just get engaged with him. It's just going to help you. It's going to change your life. It's going to improve your life. You can feel that, as we're talking here today. Not one utterance, not one second, has been a waste of your time. And engaging with him will only be a benefit to your time on a gigantic, life-altering type level. Can you talk about just a couple more things? Because I just want to give him the gift of it. You've studied a lot about sort of the heart-brain connection. Can you just talk a little bit about that? I just think this is fascinating.
26:03 Joe Dispenza? Well, when we live addicted to the hormones of stress, and stress is when your brain and body are out of homeostasis. Stress is when you're out of balance. The stress response is what your body innately does to return itself back to order. So, you're driving down the road and someone cuts you off. You jam on the brake. You almost hit them. You get that rush of adrenaline. You're aroused. You're awakened from that experience. There's a rush of chemistry that takes place and you're in emergency mode. You know, you may get angry. You may say a few things. But, you know, most people just get back on and the body returns back to balance. You know, you may talk about it to a coworker here and there. So that's a... All organisms are designed for short-term stress, you know.
26:47 Joe Dispenza? But what we as human beings do is something very different. We... When we react to something...
26:55 Joe Dispenza? The rush of those chemicals become addictive. Now, we begin to use the problems and people in our lives to reaffirm the addiction to those emotions. We need the bad job, the poor career. I need to watch the news because it works us up into that state. So, we become like an addict.
27:11 Ed Mylett? Yes.
27:12 Joe Dispenza? That needs the rush of those chemicals. Now, when the brain is in emergency and it's living in this state, what happens naturally is we begin to pay attention to whatever the stressor is. Now, where you place your attention is where you place your energy. So, the stronger the emotion you have to your ex or to your job or to the news, the more you're giving your power away to that person or thing.
27:36 Ed Mylett? So good.
27:36 Joe Dispenza? So, now, as your stress is created from a lack of control, you can't predict the future, you can't control it, or you have the perception of something getting worse.
27:45 Ed Mylett? Yep.
27:45 Joe Dispenza? So, when those chemicals are beginning to become aroused, this is what happens. You start shifting your attention from one problem, the one person, the one thing, to another place, to another problem. Now, each one of those elements, you have a circuit in your brain for. So, imagine looking at the brain when you're doing that. It's like a lightning storm, it's just going off. And if you were to measure brainwaves when that happens, the brain is very incoherent, it's out of sync. And when the brain's incoherent, you're incoherent. At the same exact time, if you're sitting across the table from a coworker and you're smiling and you're thinking, "God, I'd love to throttle him." And you're arousing yourself in that state, don't you know that your heart is racing because it's perceiving a predator?
28:29 Joe Dispenza? So, now, as the heart starts to race, it becomes incoherent. And then, when your heart becomes incoherent, you don't trust yourself. When your heart is no longer coherent, you no longer make choices that are going to be in your best interest, right? It's no longer the guidepost. So, then, is it possible, then, to train the brain to become more coherent? Is it possible to train the heart to become more coherent? And we've done extensive studies. And you can't tell me you're too old for this. You can't tell me you're too sick for this. You can't tell me you're too out of shape, too overweight, too underweight. You have a difficult past. You can't tell me that you haven't meditated before.
29:08 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
29:09 Joe Dispenza? Doesn't matter.
29:10 Ed Mylett? This is fun to me. Like, learning this is fun to me. But I want them to know about you a little bit. So, I want to step out of the heavy now and be to the light before we finish up, okay? Because you're a little bit dorky too.
29:20 Joe Dispenza? I am a dork.
29:21 Ed Mylett? Just so you know. I like dorks. What do you do for fun outside of this? Tell them about you, because I want them all to connect with you and I want them... So here's... I have people on my show, I bring some of the most impressive people in the world on, right? Clearly, this dialogue right here, most people have never heard almost any of this. You're one of the few people in the world who possess the ability not only know these things, but you can communicate them in a way that's understandable. That in of itself is incredibly rare, right? This is heavy stuff. I also don't want people to think you're different than them.
29:50 Joe Dispenza? Sure.
29:50 Ed Mylett? Right? Because you're not. I'm not different than them. We're both people that we both struggle with things. We both have things that we have to work on, etc., etc. What do you do for fun outside? It's like, are you gonna drink some wine with me when this is done with the folks over here?
30:01 Joe Dispenza? So I run wine tours.
30:03 Ed Mylett? You do?
30:03 Joe Dispenza? All over the world.
30:04 Ed Mylett? Okay.
30:04 Joe Dispenza? I've been drinking wine since I was five years old.
30:07 Ed Mylett? Since you were five years old?
30:09 Joe Dispenza? My grandfather was a winemaker and spent a lot of time tasting a lot of wines.
30:13 Ed Mylett? Okay.
30:14 Joe Dispenza? He'd sit me down and make me taste wine. So I love wine. I love to cook for groups of people.
30:20 Ed Mylett? You do?
30:21 Joe Dispenza? Cook really well. I have two boys and they surf and so I get out there with them and surf a little bit.
30:29 Ed Mylett? You love to laugh too, because we're off-camera. Every seven or eight minutes, you're laughing about something. So there's that element too, right?
30:35 Joe Dispenza? Yeah, I'm a pretty normal guy. I do like to take time for myself. I think that's really important. I think when you invest in yourself, you invest in the future. I like being around super creative people. I come from a family of artists. All my kids can draw really well. My parents were artists. My brother's a great artist.
30:54 Ed Mylett? Really?
30:55 Joe Dispenza? So I love design. I love architecture. I love beauty. I love to... I've remodeled one home four times.
31:02 Ed Mylett? Have you really? Do you struggle with things? I mean, like, sometimes I think people see me and I don't think that life's about struggle. Neither one of us do. I think you can live in a blissful state all the time. I think you'd be blissfully dissatisfied too. But I still have things that life still has... If there weren't things in life that made me have to feel like I had to grow or get better, then there'd be no purpose to being here.
31:23 Joe Dispenza? Sure.
31:24 Ed Mylett? So you have those things as well, don't you?
31:25 Joe Dispenza? Of course, of course. I mean, we're growing as a company in a lot of ways. And so I have to balance...
31:36 Joe Dispenza? Joe Dispenza and his personal life with managing a big team of people.
31:41 Ed Mylett? Sure.
31:42 Joe Dispenza? And running events and then being able to walk on stage and for a week to connect with people and to advance.
31:51 Ed Mylett? And I understand the kind of energy that takes too. You've got to be in the right state and the right energy.
31:55 Joe Dispenza? Yeah, so I think it's not about reacting. I mean, I think everybody reacts. It's how long you react. I think that's the key. And so I do my best, Ed, to not see the challenges in my life. I don't take them personally because I know that most people are running a program anyway. I always see that as what the challenge brings and how I react emotionally so then I can take care of that in my inner work. So then when I'm no longer reacting to the problem, then I'm no longer giving my power to it. So for me personally, I'm initiated. I call it initiation.
32:33 Ed Mylett? Love it.
32:34 Joe Dispenza? But I do my best to not be a victim around it. I do my best to really meet it from a greater level of mind. And certainly, somebody has faced a similar problem as me. And if I look long enough, I'm going to find the answer. And then taking that knowledge and information and applying it and personalizing and demonstrating it. You have to modify your behaviors in some way, and when you do, you have the experience. And the experience produces the emotion. You begin to embody the truth of that philosophy. And now you're wearing it, right? And so reproducing it enough times allows you to begin to master the philosophy. So I have a think tank of people that are just not part of my company or my organization that are friends that would be like you, that we sit around, have a glass of wine, we cook
33:18 Joe Dispenza? together, and we say, okay, let's unravel this thought and let's see how far we can go. So I do enjoy doing that with unlimited minds.
33:27 Ed Mylett? I love, here's what's special about you. By the way, our time flew. We're out of time. I feel like we were here for like three minutes, right? I want to tell you something that the reason I think you're such a happy person, the lessons that can be learned from you are immense. That's why I want them to get involved with what I'd call your programs, your technology, your thinking. But what's unique about you and just getting to meet you today. Right, I've read about you, I've watched your stuff, but to get to meet you today is happy people find their giftedness in life or their purpose and they live their life using that gift and using it for purpose and that's what you do, like you're, this is joy for you. In other words, this is fun for you, this does make you happy and so I think that's one of the keys in life and I, I just think, having met you, I just want to tell you, just acknowledge one thing about you, you're a healer. You're not just a healer, I know that you teach people how to heal themselves, but you're
34:12 Ed Mylett? a healer, you're a giver, you're generous, you're warm, you're kind and typically people that are so brilliant, and you are brilliant, sometimes have an air and edge about them that in some way they're superior and there's just none of that air about you. I feel like we're kindred spirits, like we're brothers. I bet you make everybody feel that way.
34:29 Joe Dispenza? If we're off camera, I'm gonna hit you in the gut.
34:32 Ed Mylett? You've done that, you did like three times. I almost whacked him back, but I didn't want to hurt him.
34:36 Joe Dispenza? But, but really the truth is, is that, I mean, honestly, I mean, God, I work so hard every day in overcoming my ego, that I learned really quickly to build it up the next day, I'd have to work hard at it the next day again, so.
34:51 Ed Mylett? Wonderful.
34:52 Joe Dispenza? I think it's a lesson that you learn as you, as you mature and I just do my best to see potential in people and if you see potential in people, you don't get stuck on the small stuff.
35:03 Ed Mylett? I love that, I feel the same exact way. I gotta, I'll be honest with you, I feel like that you're, I, sometimes I interview somebody, I'm like, how are we going to fill 45 minutes or an hour? Then there are very few people, but they're wonderful when they happen where I go, this flew by, I felt like we did five minutes in an hour, I really do feel like we've just scratched the surface and actually know that we have, so that's why I want you to get more involved with Joe, with Dr. Joe Dispenza, his programs, read his books, get engaged with him and I want to thank you for today.
35:28 Joe Dispenza? Yeah.
35:29 Ed Mylett? I learned things today and the things that I will never forget, a few of the things that you shared, so thank you so much.
35:34 Joe Dispenza? You're welcome.
35:35 Ed Mylett? Appreciate that so much. Everybody out there, I hope you enjoyed today's program, I know you did, I know that this is one of those programs you're gonna play over and over and this is one of these things you just listen to in the car and you go, I got it, you want to go replay this and listen to it again and take some notes and so if you enjoyed today's program, remember two things, we run the two-minute drill on social media, any post that I make, any post that I make, as long as you make a comment within the first two minutes, we select a daily winner, you'll get my books, my gear, coaching calls with me, introductions of some of the guests on my program and then if you enjoyed the program, make a comment on YouTube and most importantly, if you're on iTunes, leave a review so that more people around the world get access to the program. God bless you and max out, everybody.
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