Episode 381 - Paranormal Evidence Caught on Baby Monitors

With Corinne's due date right around the corner, we figured there was no better time to talk about one of the creepiest parts of parenthood: baby monitors. What started as a tool for peace of mind has become an unexpected source of paranormal evidence, with reports of mysterious orbs, shadow figures, ghostly visitors, phantom babies, and other unexplained activity caught on camera. We're diving into some of the strangest baby monitor footage we've ever come across, plus eerie Reddit stories and real-life encounters that left parents wondering who, or what, was keeping watch over their children. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan. Original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:39Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey, I'm scared and excited about today's.

• 2:43Corinne Vien?

  This was a good one.

• 2:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm like, why did you pick to do this right when you're about to have a child?

• 2:49Corinne Vien?

  I basically chose, if you didn't already read the subject line, subject line, from my email that I sent to all of you personally.

• 2:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To whom it concerns.

• 3:01Corinne Vien?

  No, I wanted to do an episode with evidence caught on baby monitors and how much more appropriate could it be than on my due date?

• 3:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, literally, this comes out on your due date.

• 3:11Corinne Vien?

  I'm due July 15th, but I'm gonna guess that I've already had the child two weeks ago.

• 3:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I, I'm gonna put my money on that.

• 3:18Corinne Vien?

  I mean, Noah came 12 days earlier than his original due date.

• 3:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:23Corinne Vien?

  And then recently, they didn't officially change it, but they bumped me up by like 13 days.

• 3:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're like, it probably is earlier.

• 3:30Corinne Vien?

  Yes. And then we had Lena.

• 3:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 3:33Corinne Vien?

  One of our listeners was just like, I had a dream, a premonition. She didn't say a premonition, but I was like, that's a premonition.

• 3:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was a premonition, yeah.

• 3:39Corinne Vien?

  That, um, we were recording Campfire Stories and I was like, uh-oh, I think I'm having contractions. I gotta go. It was a little bit early.

• 3:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Honestly, this might be your sign to go join Patreon and come join us every Tuesday and maybe Corinne will go into labor in the midst of.

• 3:53Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Everyone knows my nipple color over there, so if you're curious about getting some.

• 4:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And if you're curious why people know about Corinne's nipple color, yeah, that's on Campfire Stories.

• 4:07Corinne Vien?

  Some things.

• 4:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  On Patreon.

• 4:09Corinne Vien?

  We forget we don't personally know everyone.

• 4:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you know, it's a safe space over there, it's a community. Um, also, this is, um, a podcast called.

• 4:17Corinne Vien?

  Oh, this is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 4:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two Girls, One Ghost. We are your ghostesses. That's Corinne.

• 4:23Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 4:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm Sabrina. And yeah, so to whom it concerns, today's subject line is.

• 4:29Corinne Vien?

  Evidence caught on baby monitors.

• 4:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And Reddit stories.

• 4:33Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yes.

• 4:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which people love. People just gobble that shit up.

• 4:37Corinne Vien?

  Gobble-dee, gobble-dee.

• 4:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Gobble-dee. Read it up.

• 4:39Corinne Vien?

  I shouldn't sing creepy. That's not very kid appropriate for a kid based episode. But neither are these hauntings, really.

• 4:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Uh, scary.

• 4:49Corinne Vien?

  I haven't caught anything weird on Noah's monitor, other than him.

• 4:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Talking?

• 4:53Corinne Vien?

  Communicating to seemingly.

• 4:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would say that's catching something.

• 4:57Corinne Vien?

  But like, I didn't see any orbs. I didn't hear anyone. I didn't see anyone.

• 5:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But a lot of like, even our listener stories that were about baby monitors were people like, hearing their kids talk to someone else, seeing them interact with someone else. Noemi once started talking to someone that was like up in the corner of the room.

• 5:14Corinne Vien?

  Oh, in the corner of the room. That's creepy.

• 5:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And like, we were like, well, maybe she was like, looking up where the camp like, because the camera's up in the corner of the room, like, was she like, talking to one of us who like, will occasionally like, you know, radio, radio in? But no, it was definitely weird.

• 5:29Corinne Vien?

  I haven't done the talking to Noah over the baby monitor because I think it will scare him. So I don't say anything. I just go in when he's.

• 5:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 5:38Corinne Vien?

  Calling out. It is strange. Like, the two times that I saw Noah talking, seemingly talking to someone, because he's not expressing full language yet. There's just like a lot of, it was him going, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And like, he was listening. If both times, he was looking at the chair, like someone was sitting in the chair.

• 5:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Reading him a bedtime story?

• 5:57Corinne Vien?

  Maybe.

• 5:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also, just like, that is such a horror trope now.

• 6:02Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 6:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like, what are you catching on baby monitors or cameras in general?

• 6:07Corinne Vien?

  It's so freaky. Shall we begin?

• 6:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let's do it.

• 6:10Corinne Vien?

  Baby monitors meant to alleviate some stress from parents, right? They've been around for a very long time. So whether kids are napping or sleeping in their own room, or parents simply need to step away for a moment, which happens. I wish I could go back and tell myself that when I had a newborn.

• 6:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you can tell yourself that now before you have your newborn. Yeah.

• 6:30Corinne Vien?

  I keep saying that stuff to myself, being like, oh, wow, like this time. And then I have to remind myself, I didn't have a normal newborn. I had an extreme colic, silent reflux child who couldn't be laid on their back.

• 6:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 6:43Corinne Vien?

  And was literally kept upright for a year. So. I gotta be kinder to myself.

• 6:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, you do.

• 6:49Corinne Vien?

  Because my situation was different.

• 6:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 6:51Corinne Vien?

  But maybe I'll have a

• 6:54Corinne Vien?

  I hate to say normal, but

• 6:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I hope so.

• 6:57Corinne Vien?

  Normal experience this time.

• 6:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 6:59Corinne Vien?

  Okay, anyway, it meant to, it meant to give people a peace of mind. The creation of the first baby monitor I read was actually rooted in a terrible tragedy. It was because of the abduction of baby Lindbergh. Do you remember that case?

• 7:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's why it was, they were created.

• 7:15Corinne Vien?

  I read that it basically like can be

• 7:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Tracked back.

• 7:18Corinne Vien?

  Tracked back to that. So on the night of March 1st, 1932, 20 month old son of famed aviator Charles Lindbergh was abducted from the second story nursery of his home in Highfields, New Jersey. And the subsequent discovery of a broken ladder, a ransom note, huge search for this infant.

• 7:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 7:39Corinne Vien?

  Uh, and then they found baby Lindbergh deceased. This shocked the public.

• 7:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So sad.

• 7:46Corinne Vien?

  Because they're like, how could a child be snatched in the middle of the night like this? Like from their bedroom in the second story of their house? And yeah, this is said to be kind of like the point and catalyst of the creation of a baby monitor.

• 7:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Well, it's also like now, granted, I don't have my own kid, but like even just with seeing my nieces and like how, I just think about how much was missed with children and how much was ignored with children who like cry in the middle of the night or like have something happen to them or like a horrible kidnapping happen.

• 8:16Corinne Vien?

  We were growing up, there weren't video monitors.

• 8:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, they were like just like right walkie talkies.

• 8:20Corinne Vien?

  Walkie talkie.

• 8:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:21Corinne Vien?

  You just had to listen. Uh, not long after that happened, Eugene McDonald, who was the president of Zenith Radio Corporation, he wanted to leverage his own radio technology to provide parents this sort of like continuous ear in the nursery. And in 1937, five years after baby Lindbergh had been abducted.

• 8:41Corinne Vien?

  Zenith, the radio company, introduced the quote, "radio nurse", which was the first commercially available electronic monitoring device.

• 8:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that name, "radio nurse", that makes sense, yeah.

• 8:52Corinne Vien?

  Yes. So this was the beginning of basically like technology, the era of bringing technology for babies into personal homes, like outside of hospitals and stuff like that.

• 9:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:03Corinne Vien?

  So when we were growing up, we had a much simpler form of baby monitors. It was like the audio transmitter and receiver, definitely not any video. And I don't know if you would ever experience this, but do you remember the cross-talk that would happen?

• 9:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause they would get like wires crossed.

• 9:18Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 9:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you would hear neighbors and stuff.

• 9:20Corinne Vien?

  It was literally a radio wave. And so, yeah, sometimes you'd pick up what was happening in your neighbor's house.

• 9:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:26Corinne Vien?

  And I remember it happening so frequently with the baby monitor when we lived in Vermont. And I'd get so excited and I'd be like trying to eavesdrop and listen to the neighbors. And guess who it is? And my mom was so like, "Okay, these are private conversations. Let's give these people privacy." And she'd turn it off.

• 9:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's the concern with baby monitors in general is like the privacy and safety of it. Cause it's like, can people hack in, especially something that's

• 9:52Corinne Vien?

  Right, a wifi connected, that's a big thing now.

• 9:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 9:55Corinne Vien?

  Yes. So there's definitely a lot of safety concerns. And actually, when I was doing this research, trying to find a bunch of examples of like paranormal activity, caught so many of the stories were about like a parent hearing a weird voice, like talking to their kid and then discovering that their head hacked in. Yeah, oftentimes it was a hack and it's just like a creep.

• 10:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's so sick.

• 10:16Corinne Vien?

  It is sick.

• 10:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ew.

• 10:17Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. So now, a lot of video monitors, especially the ones that are connected to wifi, come with the capability of recording or having memory for a certain amount of days. So things are starting to be captured and witnessed and recorded. And we're going to talk about some of them today. Eek. Okay, so now with baby monitors, one of the most frequent anomalies reported are parents seeing orbs caught on these video cameras. So a lot of people are like, "Okay, it's just a piece of dust floating by or like a bug or something."

• 10:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Just a little spider.

• 10:47Corinne Vien?

  Just a spider. But the orbs oftentimes are like whirring around the child, circling the room, zigzagging, just like in a direction or having movement that doesn't quite fit dust or a bug.

• 11:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And sure, I'm sure like a massive percentage of orb sightings can be written off as like dust or bug.

• 11:09Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 11:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But there's enough.

• 11:10Corinne Vien?

  The air kicks on and something.

• 11:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sure.

• 11:12Corinne Vien?

  Zooms away.

• 11:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But there's enough with like odd behavior and things like that where we're like, we can't say all of them are dust.

• 11:19Corinne Vien?

  Right. And there's a lot where it seems to be like going down to the child, like as if to check on them or comfort them and.

• 11:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Say hello.

• 11:26Corinne Vien?

  Stuff like that. So a lot of people are saying, okay, well, like these baby monitors, they're mostly on night mode, right? Because there's low light conditions when kids are sleeping. And so the camera's processor may struggle a little bit to like render this movement and create this sort of trailing type light that you see with a lot of the orbs. La di da.

• 11:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Science.

• 11:47Corinne Vien?

  Science.

• 11:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Tech.

• 11:49Corinne Vien?

  Tech terms. But again, like you were saying, the behavior is a little bit different.

• 11:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 11:53Corinne Vien?

  Unfortunately, I thought at this point that I would have a video to share of my cousin Addie when she was little. I texted my Aunt Jen and I was like, help me find these videos of Addie.

• 12:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 12:06Corinne Vien?

  When Addie was little, my Aunt Jen and Uncle John used to post to Facebook like semi-frequently clips of her in her room, in her crib, fully engaging with orbs. You'd see orbs everywhere and she'd be talking to them. And it wasn't like they were just zooming around and you were like, oh, it's dust. Like they would go down and just like stop right in front of her crib. And she's like, la la la la la. And there's just like a glowing ball of light right in front of her. So I was looking on their Facebook and I couldn't find them on Facebook. And then I was like, Jen, you have to find these for me. She couldn't find them. Then I sent Uncle John looking in the archives of his Facebook. No one could find them. We have no idea where these videos are.

• 12:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How old is Addie now too? Because it's like, that was years ago. It's like it was like last year.

• 12:46Corinne Vien?

  Twelve or thirteen.

• 12:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, so a long time ago.

• 12:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah. It's long enough ago. This was happening to her when she was like under two.

• 12:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Addie, and like you've talked about Addie before, she is constantly experiencing the paranormal.

• 12:56Corinne Vien?

  Addie is a creepy kid.

• 12:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 12:58Corinne Vien?

  She has seen a lot. I feel like a lot of the stories I've shared about my little cousin experiences. It was, it was Addie growing up. She experienced a ton. So alas, the video exists somewhere, but we cannot find it. But there's a lot of other people. Who have evidence of the paranormal happening to their children. So first, we're going to visit a viral moment from 2019. Maritza Sibyls, a mother in Chicago, checked her monitor and saw a ghost baby laying next to her 18 month old son, Lincoln. She's like, holy shit, burn the house down to the ground right now. She was positive that this was a spirit, not an intruder, but a ghost baby. And I'm going to show you a picture.

• 13:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, that makes me also think like, did she experience like child loss in the past? And so I'm like, oh, my gosh. And it's not a baby doll?

• 13:50Corinne Vien?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 13:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait.

• 13:54Corinne Vien?

  Let me continue. So she goes in the room with a flashlight. She can't see anything on the sheet. She's like, what the hell is going on? But when she looks on the monitor, she sees this ghost baby. It wasn't until the next morning when she realizes the ghost was actually a picture of a baby on the mattress.

• 14:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 14:10Corinne Vien?

  This is the only one that is disproved. I promise you, everything else is right. Her husband had changed the sheets and didn't put the mattress protector back on. So through the thin sheet.

• 14:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wild. Oh, my gosh.

• 14:24Corinne Vien?

  The baby is.

• 14:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause it also looks like wrapped in my blanket.

• 14:29Corinne Vien?

  It does. But she, I think she had already like posted on social media being like, oh, my God, there's a ghost baby. She got a little bit embarrassed and had to walk it back.

• 14:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That it was like early days of our podcast where you had been explaining to me about like the bed shaking phenomenon that you and like your family experienced. And one morning I wake up to like shaking and I was like, oh, my God. I literally text you, I go, Corinne, I think I finally experienced it. Oh, my gosh, my bed was shaking. It was so scary. And then all of a sudden, like our other group chat is like, did you guys all feel that earthquake?

• 15:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoops.

• 15:03Corinne Vien?

  Oh, you live in Southern California, your first thought is paranormal instead of earthquake. I love it. Okay, but that's all to say, sometimes these things can be debunked. But sometimes they cannot. So now we're going to move into things that are not debunked. I know. That's why I was like, I feel too bad because you're going to keep commenting. I was like, no, no, no, this is, that was a tag. Okay, this is the case of Heather Broth. And Josh Higgins, they're from Michigan. And in 2019, Heather was watching the monitor to check on her daughter Lily. She was 15 months old at the time. And that is when she saw a ghostly male figure walk briskly past Lily's crib. I think it's like a pack and play and then vanishes into thin air.

• 15:45Corinne Vien?

  Lily, the little girl, gets up, puts her hands on the side of the pack and play. She's like gripping the side and like looking around the room.

• 15:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So she saw the man and was like, where'd he go?

• 15:54Corinne Vien?

  Maybe, or like heard movement or like something in the room. So Heather thinks there's an intruder. She runs upstairs, assuming the worst.

• 16:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 16:03Corinne Vien?

  And she finds Lily in her crib in an empty room. So let's watch the clip.

• 16:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh, I got chilies.

• 16:11Corinne Vien?

  So that like circle is spotlight is on the person moving and Lily's in the pack and play.

• 16:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow, you can like see the arms moving.

• 16:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. And then Lily gets up and it's like, hello?

• 16:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 16:24Corinne Vien?

  Freaky.

• 16:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love it. But it's also, I can't imagine being a parent and seeing that on your camera.

• 16:30Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 16:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like how horrifying. Yeah, your first instinct would be someone's intruded into my home and my child is in danger.

• 16:37Corinne Vien?

  It's such a like weird thing too, because I've thought about like, what if I saw something in Noah's room? What would I do? Because you're, you want to run in and like grab your child. But also it's like, well, if this is someone that could hurt us, like, do I actually have to take a beat? And let my child be in there for like a minute with them while I gather?

• 16:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A weapon or something. Yeah. Uh, scary.

• 16:59Corinne Vien?

  Yes. So at the time Heather had already been experiencing things in the house. So there was already some like question maybe as to whether this house was haunted. She said that she heard a lot of like unexplained movement. And then one morning she actually woke up feeling like someone was choking her. So this is might not be like a ghost spirit.

• 17:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Fun haunting.

• 17:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, a family member checking in on the baby. Um, the family actually brought in a group of paranormal investigators because it felt like this thing was threatening. And they were scared that this could escalate, especially having a child. And the investigators in doing research into like the history of the home and who had lived there before, found that. There had been a death. There was a death by suicide from a previous owner in the house.

• 17:43Corinne Vien?

  So that's maybe one possibility of who it could be, or maybe just because there was such a tragic end to someone's life, something else darker came in. There were a few news articles on this, but I also couldn't find any update beyond this. Where it's like, where are they now? Is Lily okay? Are the parents okay?

• 18:01Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so the next bit of evidence, the next paranormal sighting, comes from the UK.

• 18:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Love it.

• 18:08Corinne Vien?

  I'm gonna butcher all these names, I'm so sorry. Laura Hi was going to check on her eighteen month old son Sebastian, looking at the baby monitor, a video baby monitor, and she notices something is snuggled beside him. And you can't quite make out what it looks like. It like kind of looks like a teddy bear. Oh, interesting. That would scare me.

• 18:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Horrifying, yeah.

• 18:30Corinne Vien?

  So it's a bit smaller than her son Sebastian.

• 18:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 18:33Corinne Vien?

  And at first thought I was like, oh, this is a teddy bear. And I think she thought the same thing. But it's really shadowy and Dean, Sebastian's dad, who's also looking at it now, thinks that that's what it is. It's a teddy bear. They don't remember Sebastian bringing his teddy bear into the crib with him when he went to bed. They're like, okay, well, that makes sense. So Dean is like, the teddy bear's in there, but let me go race up and check on him and make sure he's okay. He goes into the room. He sees Sebastian sleeping alone in the room. No teddy bear, no other animals in his crib with him. Yet on the monitor, you can still see this image. He's like standing above him, looking at the monitor.

• 19:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Photo of it?

• 19:14Corinne Vien?

  Yes, I do.

• 19:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That looks like a baby.

• 19:17Corinne Vien?

  It does look like a baby.

• 19:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Binky in its mouth.

• 19:19Corinne Vien?

  And it looks like a baby who was moved in the two different

• 19:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 19:22Corinne Vien?

  Pictures. Yes.

• 19:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What the heck?

• 19:24Corinne Vien?

  Snuggled in, right? So creepy. So you can still see on the monitor this thing. So the parents, this is at night. They put Sebastian to bed. They're still gonna be up for a few hours. So they're watching the monitor as they're like getting ready to go to sleep. And for the next four hours, this figure remains visible on the monitor.

• 19:47Corinne Vien?

  And it does move positions.

• 19:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For four hours.

• 19:51Corinne Vien?

  Yes, but they're like, okay, whatever it is, we can't remove it because we can't see it.

• 19:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 19:57Corinne Vien?

  Sebastian seems to be comfortable. Maybe the two of them just want to cuddle. So they just kind of like watched and monitored the monitor and left it as it was. Yeah.

• 20:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So like woo woo in me is just curious if like if we think of the movie Soul and all the babies on like Baby Planet who dive off to go down to earth. Like if this was like their little soul tie friend on Baby Planet and they missed each other.

• 20:26Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, or even like if you buy a crib secondhand or something if there's.

• 20:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, sad.

• 20:32Corinne Vien?

  I don't know.

• 20:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That makes me think sad things happened.

• 20:34Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 20:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Uh, I don't know.

• 20:36Corinne Vien?

  I don't know either.

• 20:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it's wild.

• 20:39Corinne Vien?

  That they're going to have.

• 20:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Interesting. What is time?

• 20:42Corinne Vien?

  What is time?

• 20:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What is the paranormal?

• 20:43Corinne Vien?

  It definitely looks like a younger baby.

• 20:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 20:46Corinne Vien?

  And you can see like both Sebastian and this baby changing positions. And you're right, it does look like a pacifier in the baby's mouth. But like in the first picture, it's almost like the child's in such a weird position, like the ghost baby's in a position where they like Sebastian's like almost on top of them.

• 21:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 21:02Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, so strange. So anyway, they just let them snuggle and cuddle up. And then there's a video which I kept seeing posted in all these like top ten clips of baby monitor, whatever. But I couldn't find the original post. Apparently it was shared by the parents who were concerned that in their child's crib, the teddy bear seemed to move on its own. So let's watch that.

• 21:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Toy Story moment. Okay.

• 21:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my god.

• 21:31Corinne Vien?

  It's so.

• 21:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, play it again. I need to watch it again.

• 21:34Corinne Vien?

  And like the child is awake.

• 21:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but the child's not moving in a way that would make the doll. And it like snaps its head back.

• 21:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Which there's no sound or anything and it does make me wonder if, because it seems like the kid is just kind of like blinking and like trying to go to sleep. If the kid knew the teddy bear was moving behind them or was hearing something, if they were being spoken to. But the teddy bear's fully, if you're only listening to this episode right now and you're not watching, the teddy bear's head like moves fully like thirty degrees and then kind of goes back and forth a little bit before returning.

• 22:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's got like a Five Night at Freddy's animatronic type of movement.

• 22:13Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah, totally. Or like OG Chuck, Chuck E. Cheese band.

• 22:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, okay, this like makes me wonder because I fully believed after watching Toy Story that all of my toys came to life at night. But are all toys just pissed that now there's cameras in the rooms because it limits them, but they still have life to them and they're like, ah, I want to, like, I want to.

• 22:36Corinne Vien?

  Snuck in my boob.

• 22:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 22:38Corinne Vien?

  I got to move.

• 22:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 22:46Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 22:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 23:28Corinne Vien?

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• 23:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 23:59Corinne Vien?

  Things get darker on the internet when you go to Reddit.

• 24:04Corinne Vien?

  And that is what I did. And holy shit, there were some scary ones. Okay, so this is from the user K-Drod. They write, "Long story short, my father and one of his detective buddies are pretty close. My father's buddy went on vacation with his wife and young daughter. While on vacation, he kept getting notifications from the baby monitor app that motion was being detected. He had strange things happen in the home, but nothing that screamed ghost. Casual things, like things going missing and found right after, house noises in the middle of the night, etc. Anyways, he was at dinner with his wife and his baby girl and decided to check the app. The motion detection captured this picture."

• 24:48Corinne Vien?

  I'll show you the picture before I continue. Okay, are you ready for this?

• 24:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 24:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my god, what?

• 24:56Corinne Vien?

  It is messed up. This is like a-

• 24:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my gosh, it's like, it looks like it's supposed to be a child, but it's like decaying.

• 25:03Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it's like gaunt and hunched over. Ew, so creepy.

• 25:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Why do I want to look at it again?

• 25:12Corinne Vien?

  There you go.

• 25:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can see eyes, nose, mouth. It's skeletal.

• 25:16Corinne Vien?

  It is, but the hair is luscious and shiny.

• 25:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So this is like in the living room or something like?

• 25:21Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 25:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoa.

• 25:23Corinne Vien?

  Like, this looks like a baby gate, doesn't it?

• 25:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, or like one of those like playpen situations.

• 25:27Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 25:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What the heck?

• 25:31Corinne Vien?

  So it's somewhere that they had the baby monitor at. It looks like it's in the living room because you can see the sofas and then the baby gate. But yeah, so they continue and they write, "Nobody was supposed to be in the house, yet there appears to be a little ghost girl in his daughter's room." Okay, so maybe this was her room or her playroom or something. "He instantly called my dad and asked him to go over and search and clear the home. My dad obliged, ended up going over to the home and found absolutely nothing. No creepy noises, nothing, just an empty house. My dad's friend didn't waste any time and instantly spent the rest of the vacation house shopping, and they actually moved a week after getting back."

• 26:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  From just that one image?

• 26:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 26:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is sad because it makes me think like, if it is like a little ghost girl, who was probably so excited that there's another kid in the house.

• 26:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 26:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My empathy goes out to this ghost girl.

• 26:23Corinne Vien?

  I don't know.

• 26:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's free.

• 26:25Corinne Vien?

  It is. Because sometimes the people have also, I saw some stories about like people logging in and seeing another child. It was almost like the glitch was, it wasn't even in

• 26:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Their house.

• 26:36Corinne Vien?

  Their house. It was like a completely different feed coming through.

• 26:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Scary.

• 26:40Corinne Vien?

  But this appears to be in their home.

• 26:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:43Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 26:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They recognize the room. Yeah.

• 26:45Corinne Vien?

  They write, "My dad, who is not the biggest ghost believer, even found this picture unsettling. Let me know your thoughts in the comments. My dad hates when I bring this story up for some reason, but it's been on my mind lately. I thought I would share it on here."

• 26:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you're like, what would you do if you saw that picture, this picture?

• 26:59Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 27:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm imagining it right by my face right now. What would you do if you saw that?

• 27:03Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God. I don't know. Actually, I do know. I'd bust in. I'd say, "You cannot be in this room. This is my child's room. This room is off limits. If you mean no harm, you can spend time in other rooms." I'd list the appropriate rooms, give time parameters that they can be there.

• 27:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 27:22Corinne Vien?

  And then I would do what I need to do to cleanse the house.

• 27:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ah, it's also just sad because it's like, it's such a scary image, but it's just like walking through.

• 27:32Corinne Vien?

  Walking? It's constant crawling through.

• 27:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It doesn't have, it can't control what it looks like. That's not fair.

• 27:41Corinne Vien?

  It does make you wonder how, like, this was him checking the baby monitor after getting a ton of notifications.

• 27:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How many was missed?

• 27:47Corinne Vien?

  How many were missed? Because I always wonder that too, because I get so many notifications in Noah's room.

• 27:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 27:52Corinne Vien?

  About motion detection, motion detected. I've checked a few times. It's sunlight.

• 27:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 27:57Corinne Vien?

  Dappled sunlight coming through the window and whatever. So I, I don't actively, and I'm always home, so it's like, I know no one's in here.

• 28:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 28:06Corinne Vien?

  So I don't ever check, but like, how many things maybe have I missed?

• 28:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I feel that way too, because I have, uh, when I go out of town, I have like a cat camera. I have two set up. And like occasionally I'll just check in, make sure like, you know, she's fine. But yeah, I get so many notifications. I'm not looking at all of them because I know it's like, oh, Lea's probably walking around.

• 28:25Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 28:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But what if it's something else?

• 28:28Corinne Vien?

  That's why we need different settings on these things where it says like

• 28:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ghost detected?

• 28:34Corinne Vien?

  Not motion detected, but like face detected.

• 28:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 28:38Corinne Vien?

  Feet detected. We need to be able to turn on body parts. So we know. Okay. And then I'm going to end on what I believe personally was the scariest thing that I saw when searching through.

• 28:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  On Reddit?

• 28:52Corinne Vien?

  Reddit and online. So this was posted with basically zero context. So I have no idea the backstory.

• 28:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Terrifying.

• 28:59Corinne Vien?

  But it was posted on a forum for like evidence of the paranormal caught on monitors.

• 29:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 29:05Corinne Vien?

  And then just

• 29:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Photo.

• 29:06Corinne Vien?

  Drop these two pictures.

• 29:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The suspense. Oh no.

• 29:13Corinne Vien?

  Here's the first.

• 29:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No. Okay. Victorian boy. What?

• 29:20Corinne Vien?

  I don't even know. Like it's kind of yucky. Like it looks like they're wearing a mask.

• 29:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, he looks super pale. Like he died of the plague.

• 29:28Corinne Vien?

  And then this is the second. So it's like the same person walking by.

• 29:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But their face is much blurrier.

• 29:33Corinne Vien?

  Do you notice in the crib?

• 29:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is that another child?

• 29:36Corinne Vien?

  That's a child watching them.

• 29:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Why does that child look like Chucky from Rugrats?

• 29:40Corinne Vien?

  Why do you think? I think they're just like

• 29:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, it's like their eyes.

• 29:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, their eyes are

• 29:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's blurry.

• 29:46Corinne Vien?

  glowing in the monitor.

• 29:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ew, wait, go back to the first one. Cause that's way scarier.

• 29:52Corinne Vien?

  But the kid hasn't gotten up yet. It's like they noticed them.

• 29:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Why is it like purpleish and red?

• 29:57Corinne Vien?

  I think probably just from taking a picture, like of a picture on the computer. You know, has like sometimes.

• 30:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It really does look like a gaunt Victorian child who like, because even like the clothing in the first one, you can kind of see, like, I feel like they have like, almost like a ruffly collar.

• 30:11Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 30:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which feels reminiscent of what children, men wore. I don't know.

• 30:15Corinne Vien?

  And I mean, it's time stamped, so we can see it was taken on, I think that's an eight. I think it was August 1st, 2020. At nine oh four P M.

• 30:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ew.

• 30:25Corinne Vien?

  So.

• 30:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Uh, everyone take your baby monitors.

• 30:29Corinne Vien?

  Monitoring kids is necessary and coming in contact with the paranormal. Once you have kids that you have to monitor, that seems inevitable.

• 30:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Added bonus.

• 30:38Corinne Vien?

  Added bonus. So that's what I pulled. There's so much more. There's so many clips on TikTok and there were so many, uh, there were some good ones that I had saved from like a a couple of years ago, just like scrolling on TikTok.

• 30:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 30:51Corinne Vien?

  When I went back, there were only reposts of the evidence and like the original poster hadn't like had taken it down or privated it. So I didn't want to share those because I thought, you know, like they're.

• 31:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Privacy.

• 31:04Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, they're trying to no longer have the images of their children up. So

• 31:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 31:08Corinne Vien?

  There were a few really good ones. If you want to just look yourself, but I won't publicly be a distributor of those photos.

• 31:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I found a couple of listener stories. They don't have photos, but it is like experiences people our listeners had from creepy encounters with baby monitors. Okay. So the first one is from our listener Brooke and the subject line is, I can't remember the weirdest thing that ever happened to me. Hello ladies. I'm a new listener, but I've really been enjoying your podcast so far. I love hearing other people's paranormal stories as I have several of my own. Although I've had many paranormal experiences throughout my life, this is the one most unexplained and still leaves me questioning things 14 years later. To preface, I'm originally from Texas, but I've lived in seven states total. And this incident occurred in South Carolina, just outside of Charleston.

• 32:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In 2012, I was one year out of high school and my mom and I moved to a suburb right outside of Charleston. I was attending a community college in the area and working as a part-time nanny. This nanny gig was with a family I met on one of those online care sites. And upon meeting the family, they seemed relatively normal and both my parents actually met them as well. The mom of the family was a realtor and the dad was an investigator slash detective. The girls I was going to be nannying were three and seven. Here's where we start to get to the weird part. I don't remember their names. I don't remember the mom's name. I don't remember the dad's name or either of the daughters. Even weirder, neither can my parents.

• 32:40Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that is weird.

• 32:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And my dad, to this day, claims he never met them, even though he went to their house with my mom and I.

• 32:47Corinne Vien?

  Was this just a full-on ghost family?

• 32:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This didn't happen over time either. As soon as I was done yanning, it was like, oh, flip of the switch. We couldn't remember anything, and it still gives me chills. But I remember moments from the job. So my job was to pick up the younger child from preschool around lunchtime, and then pick up the older one from school at the end of the day, then keep them until the evening when the parents got home. From the start, all the vibes felt off. The house was so creepy, even though it was a newer build, and I was mostly alone with the younger child because, again, the older one I would pick up later and then often would go play down the street at a friend's house. They also had a dog who would bark at or charge at what appeared to be nothing multiple times. And one time, he even knocked a lamp off the table doing this.

• 33:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  On one rare occasion, the older child was home, and I was watching a crime show, but when she came inside the room, I went to change it. She asked me why I was changing it, and I said, because it might be scary for you. And this child, seven-year-old girl, says, what, dying? That doesn't scare me. You don't even want to know about Italy.

• 33:51Corinne Vien?

  What? Is this like past life coming through? Like, oh, I died in Italy and it was horrific. You don't even want to hear that story? Which, this is such a weird, oh my god, kids are messed up.

• 34:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kids are creepy. As Brooke said, that seemed like a very strange thing for a seven-year-old to say, but I let it go. Then, when I would put the younger one down for a nap, she would always cry and say she was afraid of her room and afraid of her bed. So I would usually sit there and try to soothe her as she went down for her nap, but it would take a long time. One day, this younger child was napping, and I could hear talking on the baby monitor. It sounded like there was an adult male voice that was at a whisper, so I couldn't fully tell what it was saying. But it sounded like he was making a plan with this little girl to shoot someone.

• 34:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because she kept saying she didn't want to do it.

• 34:41Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh. Oh, I hate stories like this.

• 34:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 34:44Corinne Vien?

  I hate when it's like something evil. It's trying to encourage a child to do something terrible.

• 34:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Fast forward about three days from then, I put the little girl down for her nap and she was extra upset about it. I was standing next to her bed and she said she didn't want a nap because of the monster. I said, it's okay. There are no monsters here. And she looked at me and said, yes, there are. And he's there. And I asked, where? Suddenly, my entire body went ice cold. And she says, right behind you.

• 35:12Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 35:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I whipped around, saying, in the name of God and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, leave this room. You are not welcome here, etc. Because I don't know what I was doing, but I was like, maybe this will work if there's an evil spirit. And truly, within a few minutes, the room went back to a completely normal temperature and I was no longer cold. Which, hey, hats off to you, Brooke.

• 35:33Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that's incredible. Because we say set intentions, we say do all this stuff, but it doesn't always work like that. Sometimes it's just the very beginning step of trying to rid

• 35:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 35:43Corinne Vien?

  your home of something.

• 35:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It worked for a few minutes.

• 35:46Corinne Vien?

  Oh, damn it.

• 35:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I calmed her down, was able to get her to go to sleep, and I went back downstairs. So I had the monitor going, just to listen out for her nap. And about 30 minutes after I had left her room, I heard one of the loudest sounds I have ever heard on a baby monitor. It was loud, but it was quick, like a 30 second sound, so loud, it terrified me. And I ran upstairs. I flung open the door and I find the dresser had been slightly moved. All of the drawers were pulled out. All of the clothes and toys that had been in the dresser were thrown all over the floor. The closet was open, the window was open, and the fan was going at full speed.

• 36:22Corinne Vien?

  Okay, tantrum.

• 36:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Literally tantrum. I looked at the bed and this child was still sleeping. I grabbed her, I ran downstairs. She had no memory of it or didn't experience it or see it. I didn't want to seem crazy, so I just cleaned up the mess later that evening and never said anything to the parents because I was so afraid. These parents kind of gave me the creeps. I quit that job about a week later and never heard from them again. And like I previously mentioned, I've forgotten their names. I don't remember anything about who they really were or their names. And it's so weird because I do consider myself a name person. Like someone says their name, I remember it. I still can't explain any of this, but I do really hope things improve for those girls and that they're thriving. But I don't know. See you on the other side, Brooke. Also, what happened in Italy?

• 37:09Corinne Vien?

  What happened in Italy? Why is there like no memory of the identification of this family? What sort of sick-ass spirit is attacking these kids?

• 37:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And like the fact that both of her parents, Brooke's parents, met this family too. And it's not like Brooke was like 12 when she was baby to the family. She's 17, 18.

• 37:29Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God.

• 37:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. So scary.

• 37:31Corinne Vien?

  Babysitting and manning is actually a very scary job, I feel.

• 37:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And hearing a man talking to a child on a baby monitor?

• 37:38Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 37:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So scary.

• 37:39Corinne Vien?

  No. Because then you're like, what's happening? I'm being surveilled by someone who could break it. Like, it just, it feels like, what's the one a stranger calls? Like babysitter.

• 37:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Have you checked on the kids lately?

• 37:52Corinne Vien?

  Coming for us. Oh, man. Sorry, Brooke.

• 37:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Here's another one from a listener.

• 38:01Corinne Vien?

  Great.

• 38:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is from Amanda. Hey, besties, my name's Amanda. This is about my 600th time emailing you. But it's not my fault. Tell the ghosts to chill. So around the time of your New Orleans live show back in 2023, Sam and Colby came out with their series that took place at the Conjuring House.

• 38:19Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 38:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Remember how weird it was? Like, how many Conjuring House things?

• 38:22Corinne Vien?

  It wasn't just them. It was like every person who'd ever touched the paranormal suddenly was covering the Conjuring House all at the same time. And we're like, that's so weird.

• 38:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The house was like trying to get people to pay attention to it.

• 38:33Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 38:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So weird. So when this came out and around your show, I would stay up after my daughter went to bed to watch every time a new episode came out. And as context, I've always heard knocks in my house. I've seen things passing in my hallways. But prior to this, nothing too crazy. A medium has told me that I'm sensitive and it's probably just spirits passing through, passing by. But during this particular episode that I was watching, Cody and Satori did their method where they hold wrists and ask the spirits to knock while they do the alphabet. My friends decided to try it in my living room with no luck. Then the last episode was coming out on Halloween Day. The day before Halloween, I attended your show in New Orleans. Oh, this is, apparently she had tried to get meet and greet tickets but couldn't find them.

• 39:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But we took a selfie with her at the show anyway.

• 39:21Corinne Vien?

  Oh, good.

• 39:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She says, thanks. It was so much fun. I love getting to see y'all in person. And I didn't have anything happen to me during the show. I felt totally fine. Until I got home that night. The knocks that are usually pretty quiet got super loud that night. The day after Halloween, I watched that final episode of Sam and Colby's series and I went to bed. In the middle of the night, I was woken up by a sound coming from my daughter's baby monitor. It was whistling. I checked to make sure she was still asleep and she was. I moved the camera to check all around the room, see if a door was open, if any toys were going off, or if there was an intruder, but nothing. Nope. Just nothing in her room. Nothing was moving. Nothing was going off.

• 40:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My toddler was fast asleep and this whistling just continued. I tried to ignore it, but it went on and on. The next day, I staged my whole house and I haven't had any issues since, but my first thought was since I was listening to so much info about the Conjuring house that maybe someone was trying to come by to visit. Was it a family member or just a random spirit? I have no clue.

• 40:26Corinne Vien?

  If she wasn't listening and consuming so much Conjuring house material, I would have been like, oh, it might just be like a friendly ghost, but you, it's, it's too much of a risk.

• 40:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or was it like because, because Amanda was just consuming so much paranormal content that like a protective spirit, a guardian or someone was like, I'm just gonna come be here more presently to protect you all.

• 40:48Corinne Vien?

  Cause the whistling seems like unless it was whistling kind of a spooky minor key tune.

• 40:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And like whistling, whistling does sound like an old grandfatherly thing to do.

• 41:02Corinne Vien?

  What makes me think of the spirit that moved with my parents once from one house to the next. Started in Guilford. He stayed back in Littleton, New Hampshire. Didn't want to be a Ramona, I guess, when they moved again. But he was a whistling spirit. He'd whistle, turn on and off the lights, open and close the front door, flush the toilet in the middle of the night. Lots of whistling.

• 41:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It could be like friendly, like the seven dwarves type of, type of whistling. But yeah, that's from Amanda, whistling on the babe monitor. There's so many, ah.

• 41:29Corinne Vien?

  So many things.

• 41:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That could happen.

• 41:31Corinne Vien?

  And it's hard because it's like, there's so much else going on. You just kind of like to write it off. And it's like, we have a podcast, so we, every time anything happens.

• 41:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Eat, sleep, live, breathe.

• 41:41Corinne Vien?

  Oh, we can talk about it, but like, I think that there are probably things, things that would have happened to you and I too, where we might not even tell people depending on the situation.

• 41:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, ever since my earthquake experience, I now. Until I know for a fact, it's the paranormal. I'm, mum's the word.

• 41:56Corinne Vien?

  Do you remember my, when the mist from the humidifier was going off in my living room and I didn't remember that my humidifier was there and I just saw a plume of smoke, but I needed to go in there. And I was so tired and so over, I was just gonna fucking walk through this ghost. I don't even care. I walked us through it and then I was like, oh, it's a humidifier. But I didn't know. I consciously was like, sorry bud, I don't get to bump into you. I gotta come in here too.

• 42:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It is funny. I, I do feel like because of the nature of our work and how much we talk about the paranormal, you and I, while we believe most everything. And we do find ways to like rationalize things. Our first reaction is paranormal.

• 42:34Corinne Vien?

  It's the very first thought.

• 42:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 42:35Corinne Vien?

  There's an attempt at debunking.

• 42:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like we think paranormal, then we try to debunk.

• 42:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 42:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then it's paranormal again.

• 42:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.

• 42:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Yeah. Order of operations.

• 42:46Corinne Vien?

  The intro and the conclusion paranormal. Body paragraphs. Could this be something else?

• 42:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In the end.

• 42:54Corinne Vien?

  It's usually a ghost.

• 42:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Should I read another?

• 42:58Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, this is fun. Let's just keep going.

• 43:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause there were so many in our inbox about this. This is like a fun episode because it's like half Reddit creepy stories and then no, the whole.

• 43:10Corinne Vien?

  It's just like, what else can we find?

• 43:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, okay. And they're all various encounters, so why not? Okay. This is from my listener Stacy and it's called, want a creepy ghost story or several? Hold my beer. Hey Ghostesses, I've been binge listening to your podcast for two months now and absolutely love you guys. Ever since I was little, I grew up having ghostly things happen to me. And so, listening to your podcast makes me feel normal. Anyway, this is sort of long, but I'm also not sorry for it because I think you will love it. I'm going to go over several things that I have encountered along with my sister and then years later with my daughter, who is very much a creepy kid. Okay, so we'll start with when Stacy was a creepy kid. When I was young, I always had a feeling I was watched. I would pull the covers over my head just in order to go to sleep each night.

• 43:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I would always tell my parents that I heard footsteps at night just outside of my door. Or that my closet doors would open and close on their own. After some time, my parents started getting worried about me. And my sister overheard them talking about taking me to see a therapist. Which I love that imagery of like, her sister being like, "Mom and dad are talking about taking you to a therapist. They think you're crazy."

• 44:18Corinne Vien?

  It's like, not true, but it's just like the sibling drama.

• 44:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 44:21Corinne Vien?

  Drama.

• 44:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My sister overheard them, but that is when she finally spoke up and said that she also had been experiencing things as well. Thank goodness she did because it finally gave me someone to talk to that believed me. My parents didn't believe me. They thought we were both making it up because they were skeptics. There were so many nights that I would then start crawling into bed with my sister because the footsteps wouldn't stop, or that I couldn't get sleep because I really felt like someone was leaning over me. My sister always experienced her closet doors opening and shutting. And she also had one of those old school TVs that had a knob that turned it on and off. And there were several times where she would leave her room, the TV was off, but when she would return to her room, the TV had been turned on. The only way it could have come on was if something or someone, or who knows what it is, turned the knob.

• 45:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  On another occasion, I used to have one of those touch lamps in my room. And I woke up one night around 1:00 a.m. and it was turned on. I did not turn it on. I had not touched it. So how did it turn on? I didn't think much of it, thought maybe it was an electrical issue. But then the next night, it happened again. And again, it was around 1:00 AM. This continued happening for almost a week. And my mom finally decided to give this touch lamp to my grandmother so I could be put at ease. And it never did this when it was with my grandmother.

• 45:35Corinne Vien?

  How weird.

• 45:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I also had something similar happen to my wind-up ballerina. One day, it decided to start playing while nobody was in the room. My mom picked it up and tried to turn it off, but it took so long. Finally, she turned it off, she put it back and walked out. The next day, it started to play again. And this time, no matter what my mom did, it would not stop playing music.

• 45:57Corinne Vien?

  Dang.

• 45:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She literally had to throw it away.

• 46:00Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, did it stay thrown away or did it make its way back to you?

• 46:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not that we know of.

• 46:05Corinne Vien?

  In the attic 20 years later, playing its little music?

• 46:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So an experience my sister and her boyfriend, who's now my brother-in-law, who's also a skeptic, had was probably one of the scarier things we encountered. She collected porcelain dolls, which I always thought were creepy. They all had plastic coverings over them. And so one night, they were laying there on her bed, watching TV. And my brother-in-law looked up at one of the dolls. He goes, "Fawn, what is that?" And my sister proceeded to look up at the doll. And there was an evil face on the plastic overlaying the top of the doll's face.

• 46:38Corinne Vien?

  Excuse me?

• 46:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She said you could see it perfectly clear. Eyes, nose, mouth, an entire face, and it looked evil. They were horrified. Even my brother-in-law, who's the skeptic, jumped up and moved the plastic so the face disappeared. I will say, my sister no longer has these dolls.

• 46:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Over the next couple of years-

• 46:59Corinne Vien?

  Wait, what brand of doll? Like, I need more information. I need to do research on these dolls.

• 47:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're porcelain dolls, too.

• 47:06Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that's even worse. Automatically creepy.

• 47:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Over the next couple of years, we still had things happen here and there. I was now a teen and my sister had moved out, we're seven years apart. And one night, I was up late chatting on AIM and I swore-

• 47:20Corinne Vien?

  Do you say AIM?

• 47:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, A-I-M. I used to say AIM.

• 47:23Corinne Vien?

  Really?

• 47:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 47:24Corinne Vien?

  I think that must be a regional thing, because I hear them both. But I always grew up with everyone calling it A-I-M. It must be regional.

• 47:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe. Um, I swore while I was on my computer, I kept hearing my name being called. My mom was awake, sitting in the living room, so I walked out to ask why she needed me. She looked at me funny and said, what? I didn't call your name. I swore I heard someone say my name. But she said she hadn't. So I returned back to the room and I continued chatting. When all of a sudden, my door slammed shut. Nope, I signed out and went right back to my room. It was truly so scary. But one of the scariest encounters I had was one night I was getting ready to go to sleep. I was laying on my back, looking up at the ceiling. I just drifted off when all of a sudden I felt three super fast taps on the bridge of my nose.

• 48:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My eyes opened wide. I leapt out of bed. I ran to my parents who were in the living room and I asked, did either of you just come into my room and hit me on the nose? They both looked puzzled and said, no. I just shook my head and went back to my room. Because trying to explain to people that I was touched, who are skeptics, is hard to do.

• 48:33Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Well, and the tapping too, it almost feels like one of the, like an older person trying to reprimand a child in like a not so nice way. Like the pulling of the ears or like smacking them on the nose, like.

• 48:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Well, I'm curious.

• 48:46Corinne Vien?

  Flicking them on the forehead.

• 48:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It could also be a boop, boop, boop, boop.

• 48:49Corinne Vien?

  Is it a nice boop, though?

• 48:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 48:51Corinne Vien?

  But like a.

• 48:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And also like in your face.

• 48:54Corinne Vien?

  Like multiple boop. Boop is a boop. It's not a bum, bum, bum.

• 48:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it's not a triple boop. Okay. Now it was my mom's turn to finally experience something odd. It's about damn time. She called my name one night and I walked into her room and she goes, Stacy, I just had the weirdest thing happen and I cannot explain it. She had been blow drying her hair and had the ceiling fan on. And she thought she had heard something over the sound of the blow dryer. So she turned it off, peered out of the bathroom into the room. And all of a sudden, that ceiling fan that had been on medium speed just stopped. Not like, oh, slowly started to turn off. No, like abruptly stopped.

• 49:29Corinne Vien?

  Dang.

• 49:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That was the night she started believing. There were times where she could feel coldness come over her and then quickly leave. There was one time she was standing at the sink in the kitchen and I walked in. And the pantry doors had been open and she asked what I was up to. I told her I was hungry and trying to think of what to eat. And I said, I will literally never forget my exact words to this day. I said, I think I'll have some Fruit Loops. And I'm not kidding when we both watch the box of Fruit Loops fly out of the pantry and land on the floor. But helpful.

• 50:00Corinne Vien?

  Wait, that they're working on their power.

• 50:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 50:03Corinne Vien?

  Let them continue to practice because what comes as just like throwing the box out of the pantry and getting to select the correct thing. Could one day turn into grabbing the bowl, pouring the cereal.

• 50:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Matilda.

• 50:13Corinne Vien?

  Grabbing the milk. Yes.

• 50:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like you go be in your bedroom and be like, wow, I really want Fruit Loops right now. Hey, ghost.

• 50:20Corinne Vien?

  And then all of a sudden. Really tastes great right now is carrot cake from a very specific store that might be a ghost's travel away.

• 50:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Please bring me carrot cake.

• 50:31Corinne Vien?

  Stole it because you're a ghost.

• 50:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's ghost Uber.

• 50:34Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 50:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're like Postmates.

• 50:35Corinne Vien?

  Uber eats for ghosts.

• 50:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. So my mom and I just stared at each other for what felt like a solid minute without saying another word to one another. I bent over, I picked up the box and then just ate my cereal because not gonna lie, I really did appreciate the help. I'm sure four 11 and reaching that top shelf was always a chore, but this time I didn't have to do it.

• 50:51Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. How great is that?

• 50:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. Fast forward a couple of years and my then boyfriend and I were laying in my bed while my mom was in the other room. And she had the light on. That had been the only light on in the entire house. So my room was pretty dark. And the light from the room my mom was in was just casting a little shadow in the hallway. My boyfriend had just gotten a brand new camera flip phone and we had been playing with the video feature. I was playing with the phone. I did a few swipes of my room and out in the hallway while I was recording. While we were watching the playback, I saw it in the middle of the hallway. There was what looked like a girl during the first swipe of the hallway, you could faintly make out the shape of the head. And the second swipe, it was closer to us. And this time you can make out that it was indeed a face at the top of what looked like shoulders.

• 51:36Corinne Vien?

  Dang.

• 51:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  When we did the third swipe through the hallway, she was even closer to us now standing in my doorway. I could see her features plain as day, a little girl with medium length hair. You could see her eyes, her nose, her lips and the upper portion of her torso. I freaked out. After all these years and having all these experiences, I was finally able to capture something. We immediately drove to my sister's house and showed her what we recorded. It was a proof we needed to know that we were definitely not alone in that house for all those years. But now, we jump ahead. I'm in my early twenties and I have a daughter. One night, in the middle of the night, one of her toys starts randomly going off. I walked out to see it sitting in the living room, but no longer going off. So I picked it up to inspect it, thinking maybe it was a battery issue.

• 52:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It seemed fine. I even shook it to try to see if it would go off again. But no, it was silent. So I put it back down with her other stack of toys and went back to bed. About 10 minutes later, it started going off again. So again, I get up, I go to look around, and this kept going on and off throughout the entire night, until finally, it stopped. Of course, her dad, who's also a skeptic, slept through the entire thing. On another occasion, my husband, my daughter and I had been sitting in the living room, watching TV, when all of a sudden, we hear something through the monitor. One of her books started playing in her room. It was one of those read-along books where there are music boxes on the side, and when you come to a picture, you press that button and it makes a sound. My husband and I looked at each other and shrugged it off.

• 53:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But then, when we hear another one of the music boxes from that same book playing. So I got up, I went to her room. This book had been sitting up against her bookcase. So it's not like it was being pressed accidentally or something was on it. So I put it back amongst the other books and we didn't hear it again. But this is when things really started picking up. One time, I'd been home alone in the house, folding laundry while watching TV. I all of a sudden heard whistling. It was so very brief, I thought maybe I was just hearing things.

• 53:30Corinne Vien?

  More whistling.

• 53:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  More whistling. A few seconds go by, and I hear it again. This time, I put the TV on mute and I sit there and I listen, and I heard it plain as day. There was whistling coming from my daughter's bedroom. I immediately got into the fetal position on the couch and called my husband. Of course, he tried to give me all the rational explanations, but I knew what I heard. And I knew, based on everything that I had grown up with, all the experiences I had, that something or someone was there. So yeah, I stayed there fetal position on my couch until my husband got home over an hour later. The scariest thing that happened in that house was a night that my daughter was at her grandparents' and my husband and I were laying on our bed, watching TV. And I had the baby monitor still beside my bed and it was on. The other monitor was in our daughter's room.

• 54:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And while we're watching TV, I heard this low growling sound. I looked at my husband and asked if he heard it. Of course, he did not. So I ignored it and we continued watching our show. But all of a sudden, I heard it again. So I grabbed the remote, I paused the TV, I put it on mute, and I said, "Listen, did you hear it?" He said, "Nope." So we sat in silence for a little bit. My heart is racing. I knew what I had heard, and it was not a nice sound. Like, it was a deep, guttural growl, and it sounded menacing. I needed him to hear it, too. After about a minute, I gave up. So I unmuted the TV, and wouldn't you know, I hear it again. So I grabbed the remote, I muted the TV again, and I made us sit in silence a little bit longer. Sure enough, this deep, low, growling noise comes out through the baby monitor.

• 54:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My eyes got wide, and I looked at my husband, and he immediately goes, "Turn it off. Turn it off. Turn it off now."

• 55:04Corinne Vien?

  See, because that doesn't feel like a hack.

• 55:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 55:07Corinne Vien?

  That is

• 55:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Evil.

• 55:08Corinne Vien?

  Evil.

• 55:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was so evil sounding, we both refused to leave our bedroom for the rest of the night. The next morning, we went into our daughter's room, and everything seemed fine. But this was the first time my husband couldn't explain what had happened, and we just have never talked about it since.

• 55:24Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, I hope that you've never talked about it since, because everything is great.

• 55:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Nope.

• 55:27Corinne Vien?

  At peace.

• 55:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Nope. Okay. There's more. My daughter went through a phase where she was having trouble sleeping, and she was always waking up in the middle of the night and couldn't get back to sleep. Night after night, she would come into our room to get me. Of course, she would never wake up her dad. Eye roll. And eventually, I started just having her crawl into bed with us. Finally, I asked her one night, "Why are you waking up so much?" She looked at me and said, "Because of the little girl."

• 55:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I didn't want to freak out in front of her, because she never acted scared, but inside, girls, I was screaming. I started asking her questions like, "So who's this little girl, and why is she waking you up?" And she told me that the little girl just keeps waking her up to play, but she doesn't know who the little girl is. I asked, "Is the little girl in the room right now?" And my daughter said, "Yes." When I asked where, she says, "Standing behind you."

• 56:19Corinne Vien?

  Oh, great.

• 56:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 56:21Corinne Vien?

  Lovely.

• 56:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I wanted to shit my pants. This is not the stuff they tell you about in parenting books, so I was not prepared. I remained calm and I asked my daughter if she would feel better if I asked the little girl to let her sleep. She said yes, so I did. I kissed my daughter on the head and left the room. I don't think I slept that night, but my daughter did.

• 56:40Corinne Vien?

  I wouldn't either.

• 56:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I did some research the next day and one of the suggestions was to go into the room, kindly ask the girl to stop. So that night, when nobody was around, I went into her room and I kindly told the little girl that she's more than welcome to play with my daughter's toys and her books, but pleased not to do it at night so that my daughter could get some sleep. I thanked her and I told her that we didn't mind that she was there and my daughter literally never woke up in the middle of the night ever again.

• 57:06Corinne Vien?

  That's amazing, though.

• 57:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 57:08Corinne Vien?

  Because that worked.

• 57:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Boundaries.

• 57:09Corinne Vien?

  Boundaries, recognition, just because I know you're here.

• 57:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A few years later, there's a couple, two more experiences. We built a house that we're now living in and my daughter was about five or six. One night, it was probably around midnight, we're all sleeping, when I heard someone say, mommy. So my eyes start to peek open a little bit. The room is dark, minus the little nightlight we have in the hallway. And I was super groggy, like I woke up to this sound. So I was like half asleep, slowly opening my eyes and I see the outline of my daughter. I'm still trying to wake up. I ask her what she needs, but she doesn't respond. So I ask again, groggily like reaching out to her. I reached for her and my hand literally went right through whoever was standing beside my bed. I have never woken up and become as alert, as fast as I did in that moment.

• 57:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not only had my hand swiped through whatever was there, but I did it twice before dolting up. I realized my daughter was not there. My daughter had not said mommy. My daughter was not standing beside my bed and now nothing is there. I look around my room, knowing I was not dreaming. I was so unsettled, but slowly I laid back down and fell asleep. And then now this is the last experience we've had and hopefully I'm not jinxing myself. But one night I went into my daughter's room to kiss her goodnight. She wanted to keep reading her books, but I explained to her that she needed to get to bed because if not, she was going to be a grouch the next day. As I was gathering her books and reiterating that she needed to go to sleep. She casually says, can you tell that to the boy who's coloring under my bed then?

• 58:39Corinne Vien?

  Coloring under the bed?

• 58:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I put the books down.

• 58:42Corinne Vien?

  Which makes me a little weary because coloring under the bed, making yourself a little fort, that's fine.

• 58:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm.

• 58:48Corinne Vien?

  Did she see the boy coloring under the bed? Or is she simply hearing scratching and knowing someone's under the bed?

• 58:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It sounds like it's coloring.

• 58:55Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 58:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, chills. Stacy says, I put the books down, quickly turned to leave and said, nope. And walked out to get my husband because my ghostly child quota has been met and it is now his turn.

• 59:10Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, he needs to set boundaries.

• 59:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. We both checked her room, ensured her that nobody else was in there with her. But after all of my experiences, I knew that whoever she was talking about wasn't there physically, but was likely a ghost. I hope you enjoyed my stories. You guys are amazing. Keep up the awesome work. Thank you. Stay spooky, Stacy.

• 59:29Corinne Vien?

  Stacy.

• 59:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Lots of hauntings.

• 59:32Corinne Vien?

  This is like a boarding school for ghost children.

• 59:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it's just your life.

• 59:37Corinne Vien?

  Yes. At least your daughter reports back on what's going on, right?

• 59:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And.

• 59:41Corinne Vien?

  Like you are aware of who and what is going.

• 59:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 59:43Corinne Vien?

  On paranormally. If you ask, though, it doesn't seem like she just offers it up all the time. It's like, why is this happening?

• 59:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The little girl who's standing beside you, mom.

• 59:52Corinne Vien?

  Oh, it's because the little girl behind you.

• 59:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Your scenario of the like scratching is like that will stick with me.

• 59:58Corinne Vien?

  Well, because did she see the coloring? Or is she just hearing the sounds of scratching and assuming that some, because that's what she associates the scratching noises with, is the sound of coloring.

• 1:00:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't like it, me nor like you. I mean, cameras and just monitors in general have the potential to be so creepy.

• 1:00:17Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, so please, if you have.

• 1:00:20Corinne Vien?

  Surveillance is good and bad.

• 1:00:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, if you have videos, if you've experienced creepy things on your children's baby monitors, we want to hear it.

• 1:00:28Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 1:00:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Email it.

• 1:00:30Corinne Vien?

  If you want to send us the video evidence, you totally can. If you don't want your kids potentially being on the internet, just send us a story.

• 1:00:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:37Corinne Vien?

  That.

• 1:00:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We don't need the video. We love the videos. We love the photos, but we can also just hear the story and be just as enthused and happy. We're easy to please.

• 1:00:45Corinne Vien?

  So, um.

• 1:00:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Email us.

• 1:00:47Corinne Vien?

  Good luck to all of you and hope your children are safe.

• 1:00:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Everyone opening their Big Boomer app, being like, what is it?

• 1:00:57Corinne Vien?

  Everyone's throwing away their crayon boxes right now, too.

• 1:01:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Email us, [email protected]. And join us on Patreon if you want ad-free, early episodes and bonus content and Can't Write Stories, Book Club, Wood Class, all the fun things. And rate and review us wherever you listen to your podcasts, because that helps.

• 1:01:16Corinne Vien?

  Thank you to Jimmy Ryan, who edits and produces our podcast. And thank you to all of you.

• 1:01:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We love you.

• 1:01:22Corinne Vien?

  You haunted little people.

• 1:01:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You haunted booches. See ya!

• 1:01:26Corinne Vien?

  And we will. See you on the other side.