Pod Insights National Park After Dark Abandoned in the Arctic: Northeast Greenland National Park About this episode In the early 1900s, explorer Ejnar Mikkelsen and a young mechanic named Iver Iversen traveled to northeast Greenland. Their mission? To recover the lost records of a doomed expedition that proved Greenland was a single landmass under Danish control. When their ship was crushed by ice and their crew departed, the mission turned into years of starvation and isolation in what has since become the world’s largest national park.
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1:02 Cassandra Yahnian? There was a time in world history when the coolest thing you could be when you grew up was not an influencer or a music artist or a professional athlete. Back in the 19th and early 20th centuries, the ultimate dream job was an Arctic explorer. These were men who volunteered for suffering. They signed up knowing they might lose fingers or toes to frostbite, that their ships could be crushed like batch sticks by shifting ice, that starvation was not a possibility but an expectation. They survived months of darkness, attacks from polar bears, and the slow horror of eating their own sled dogs just to stay alive. And when they finally emerged years later, gaunt and scarred, they were treated like legends.
1:46 Cassandra Yahnian? Newspapers flashed their faces across front pages. Crowds gathered to hear their stories. They were celebrated as proof of human endurance, courage, and national pride. These expeditions were framed as triumphs over the unknown, even when they left bodies behind. But what those headlines rarely captured was the cost. Not just the physical damage, but the mental toll. The isolation, the hallucinations, the slow unraveling that happened far from cheering crowds and patriotic speeches. And while some Arctic expeditions ended in sudden disasters, others ended in something more drawn out and unsettling.
2:25 Cassandra Yahnian? Survival that went on for years, long after the world stopped paying attention. Welcome to National Park After Dark.
2:49 Danielle LaRock? Hello, everyone. Welcome back to National Park After Dark. My name is Danielle.
2:54 Cassandra Yahnian? I'm Cassie.
2:55 Danielle LaRock? And we're going to somewhere that I love when we talk about in episodes, the Great North.
3:01 Cassandra Yahnian? The Great North, the North Pole, if you will, the Arctic.
3:05 Danielle LaRock? I'm so excited. The last time we've done an episode up here, I think was my, I don't know, I think of my hot balloon episode all the time, actually. I loved that episode.
3:14 Cassandra Yahnian? I love that you bring that up because I won't give it away now, but it comes up in this episode.
3:21 Danielle LaRock? Oh, crossover.
3:22 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, so put a little pin in that. It was episode 288 and you named it, Oh, The Places We Won't Go.
3:30 Danielle LaRock? That's right. Wow.
3:31 Cassandra Yahnian? I re-looked it up because there's like a small little tie to that story and this story. Today, I'm going to be telling the story of a Greenland expedition and we're going to the largest national park in the world, which I feel like is about time that we dive into this place. And we are going to talk about some explorers, some Arctic explorers that went up there.
3:56 Danielle LaRock? We're going to be Arctic explorers in a year and a half.
3:59 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, we are. Here we come.
4:01 Danielle LaRock? Svalbard. I'm so excited. I'm ready. Okay, prepare me.
4:04 Cassandra Yahnian? All right, let's jump into it. A young Danish mechanic named Iver Iverson. I love that name also. Iver Iverson. It's so funny to me.
4:17 Cassandra Yahnian? It's like they couldn't figure out a first name for their kids. So they were just like, let's just pick the first half of their last name.
4:25 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, that's like if you were Yanni Yon.
4:28 Cassandra Yahnian? Ya Yahnian.
4:29 Danielle LaRock? Yanni Yahnian or something like that.
4:33 Cassandra Yahnian? La La Rock.
4:34 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, mine doesn't work as well. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad I'm Danielle, I guess, but.
4:39 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, I'm also glad I'm not Yanni. Although I think that's a real name.
4:44 Danielle LaRock? Yanni? Oh, yeah.
4:45 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, that's a real name. But I feel like it's a boy name.
4:48 Danielle LaRock? I feel like it's a famous musician.
4:51 Cassandra Yahnian? Is it?
4:52 Danielle LaRock? Yanni? Maybe I'm making, I'm losing it. I don't know. Ivor by itself is strange. I feel like you should say Ivor Iverson. Together or just Iverson.
5:04 Cassandra Yahnian? Maybe that's what they intended. Yeah. They're like, you will refer to our son as his full name, Iverson, which I do throughout this episode.
5:11 Danielle LaRock? Oh, thank God. I hope. I'm glad.
5:15 Cassandra Yahnian? Anyway, a young Danish mechanic named Iver Iverson found his new hero when he happened to pick up a magazine back in the early 1900s. There, he read about a Danish explorer named Enjar Mikelsen, who'd just returned from the foreboding ice of Greenland with big news for the world. He had just proven there was no more land north of Alaska. Before this, maps of the North Pole were kind of a blank in the region. But now Mikelsen had filled in the map just by seeing it with his own eyes. Young Iverson read this news in awe, wondering if only he too could see such a place. And the magazine said that now Mikelsen was off again on a new polar voyage,
5:59 Cassandra Yahnian? this time by finding the lost body of his friend, another polar explorer named Ludwig Myleson Erikson.
6:08 Cassandra Yahnian? This friend had gone to northeast Greenland to find out whether it was one landmass or cut through the middle by a channel because that's what the famous American explorer Robert Peary had recently claimed. If it was true, that meant that half of Greenland might belong to the United States. The Danish desperately wanted confirmation that this was wrong. Mileyus Ericsson and his crew might have discovered the truth, except after setting out across the ice, none of them had ever been seen again. The Danish government wondered, could their bodies, and more importantly to them, could their journals and maps prove
6:48 Cassandra Yahnian? that Greenland was one mass, be found? So, the government sent Michelson to find out. In June of 1909, young Iverson was stuck doing his job as a mechanic on an Icelandic ship called the Island Folk. Or, so he thought he was stuck there. Imagine Iverson's astonishment when he found out that his hero, Michelson, had just arrived and was in dire need of a mechanic after his own turned out to be an alcoholic and they had to drop him off at the nearest island on their way north. Michelson's ship, the Alabama, was mostly a sailing ship, but it also had a small engine that was essential in ice, and that engine
7:27 Cassandra Yahnian? was already failing. So Iverson's captain offered him to help. And of course Iverson was thrilled with this, and descended into the belly of the Alabama, loudly singing his usual made-up songs as he tinkered around. Finally, he stuck his head above the deck and said to Michelson, "Well skipper, just give the word and the motor will start." This was the beginning of a beautiful friendship. With Michelson in desperate need of a mechanic, his captain agreed to loan Iverson to Michelson for the expedition, and Iverson didn't need any time to think about it, he happily hopped onto the Alabama, bound for northeast Greenland on a polar adventure. And when they dropped anchor on the frozen shores of Greenland's
8:11 Cassandra Yahnian? Shannon Island, Iverson couldn't believe his eyes. He was seeing a world few ever witnessed, even to this day. Northeast Greenland is now home to the world's largest national park. It's 375,000 square miles. And to give you an example, I should have done this in, No. In retrospect, I should have done it in Titanic's. It's okay. I forgive you. I kind of want to look it up. I said it's as big as Spain and France combined. But how many Titanic's is 375,000 miles? Square miles. Oh, square miles. It's 1.2 billion Titanic ships.
8:55 Cassandra Yahnian? Billion with a B. Wow. Yeah, that's a lot. It's really big. Yeah, it's the size of two countries. Yeah, combined. So if anyone ever asks you how big the largest national park is in the world, fun, I feel like this could be a trivia question. It's 1.2 billion Titanic's large. It's so big. If you know anything about Titanic's or Titanic. Which is funny because the wild thing about this park is actually only 40 people have all of the space to call for themselves. And those people are kind of modern day polar explorers because they're mostly made up of meteorologists and other Arctic researchers.
9:33 Cassandra Yahnian? So it's very, very remote. Other people that are here are military personnel, which include an elite naval crew called the Sirius Dog sled patrol. This is a very remote park. You can't fly to an airport or rent a car to explore. It's not like you can just like, go there and be like, hey, I want to come, come see it. Instead, you have to take a cruise around its perimeter. And if you really want to get into the interior of this park, you have to hire a sled team. And then they'll take you through. And as for wildlife that's here, only the hardiest creatures live there like polar bears, narwhals, musk ox, and walruses, and only some birds like the Arctic tern, the raven, and the tarmigan. Have you read Migrations by Charlotte?
10:17 Cassandra Yahnian? No, but we've talked about it a lot. I feel like it comes up quite often. I read it recently and it just, it reminded me of that because the whole book kind of surrounds following the migration patterns of the Arctic tern. Oh, interesting. So I read about them a lot recently and I really liked that book because of this whole story too, I was feeling. And with our upcoming trip first fall barred, I was kind of feeling Arctic. Esque for a book and I read Migrations and I really, really loved it. Maybe a book club read. We've read that author before Wild Dark Shores for our book club too. That one was good. Well, going back into the park, this landscape hasn't changed much since the time of this expedition,
11:00 Cassandra Yahnian? especially in terms of how it's been built up within society. It's not been hundreds, over a hundred years from now. And now there's buildings or things that are there. It's still very, very remote. So what you might see now from a cruise ship wouldn't look much different than what young Iverson saw from the Alabama as he arrived to northeast Greenland. And you might think of Greenland as flat or ice desert-esque, but in fact, it's a world full of beautiful mountains, bottomless crevasses, crevasses, not crevices, and vast fjords, all of them covered in ice of many colors and shapes. Upon their arrival, Michelson immediately set about preparing a search party to look for his friend,
11:43 Cassandra Yahnian? Myelius Ericsson and his crew. Along with him was the second in command Lieutenant Jorgensen, who would accompany him, but Iverson, even though he joined solely to be a mechanic, immediately volunteered to go as well. He saw this as his opportunity to be like, this is my time to shine. I can be an Arctic explorer. He had no experience with sled dogs, exploring the Arctic, anything like that. He was just eager and they agreed to let him go. They had purchased 47 dogs from an Inuit village on their way north, so they had all of these sled dogs with them. And now those dogs took the three men out to find the bodies, but the rest of the crew stayed behind because the Alabama had actually quickly gotten trapped in ice off the side of Greenland
12:27 Cassandra Yahnian? and they needed to stay behind to try and free it. Michelson, Iverson, and Jorgensen intended to travel 330 miles across the ice to where they believed they'd find the bodies, but they couldn't travel as fast as they hoped because the ice wasn't thick enough. In fact, it was so thin that they could see narwhals swimming under their feet.
12:47 Danielle LaRock? That's really cool though.
12:49 Cassandra Yahnian? So cool. I would not want to break through the ice, but
12:53 Danielle LaRock? What a sight.
12:54 Cassandra Yahnian? Whoa.
12:55 Danielle LaRock? Yeah.
12:55 Cassandra Yahnian? Whoa. But despite this, they pushed on and it was grueling conditions. I meant to say this a little bit earlier, but I'll say it now. If you are listening and you, I want to give kind of a trigger warning because this Episode is an Arctic exploration that has a lot of gruesome details in it, but some of it does happen to be around dogs. And spoiler alert, dogs do die in this episode. So if people are not in a space to hear that, and I totally get that. I love dogs so much, you should know now and you should turn it off right the second because.
13:33 Danielle LaRock? It's about to get dark.
13:35 Cassandra Yahnian? It's about to happen. And I'm not going to go into, I'm going to try not to go into too much detail throughout the episode of these instances in particular, because I know it's hard to listen to, but it is important for context of the story. So they're pushing on in these grueling conditions across the ice. These sled dogs are carrying them, their team, all of their supplies. And within the first kind of push, two of their sled dogs died under the strain and, and just lack of food in the environment. And it's really tough. And by this time, it was night all of the time that they were out there. Eventually they arrived at the place called Lambert Land, where they did discover the body of Jorgin Broland in a shallow snow grave.
14:17 Cassandra Yahnian? Now, Bronland had been an Inuit dog sledder and Arctic guide for the Mylus Ericsson expedition. The three buried him properly and continued searching for his companions for several more days, but they never found them. Undoubtedly, the sea had thawed and refrozen, swallowing their corpses whole. The men reluctantly turned back for the 330 mile return trip to their ship. But now their supplies were running dangerously low. The sled dogs had so little to eat, they started killing and eating each other. And then Jorgensen's feet got wet and frostbite turned his feet black. When they finally arrived back at the Alabama, they went into emergency mode.
15:02 Cassandra Yahnian? They slapped him onto a table, gave him as much whiskey as he could drink, and cut his toes off one by one.
15:12 Cassandra Yahnian? Like whiskey is not anesthesia.
15:14 Danielle LaRock? Whiskey is not enough.
15:16 Cassandra Yahnian? No.
15:17 Danielle LaRock? Yikes.
15:18 Cassandra Yahnian? I would hope he was blackout.
15:21 Danielle LaRock? Unconscious.
15:21 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
15:22 Danielle LaRock? Unconscious. One would hope.
15:24 Cassandra Yahnian? Arctic exploring is so fun.
15:27 Cassandra Yahnian? With this, Mikkelsen's second-in-command was now out of commission. But as any good polar explorer knows, the more impossible your mission, the more determined you are to achieve it. Mikkelsen's first attempt to reach the Arctic actually had come at the age of 16, when he walked over 100 miles from Stockholm to Gothenburg. This was an Arctic exploration that might sound familiar to you because he walked here to convince the explorer, S.A. Andre, to let him tag along on a hot air balloon trip to the North Pole. Andre turned him down. He said that he was too young and he didn't want him on his crew, which actually turned out to be a lucky turn of events, if you've listened to Danielle's episode on this, because
16:12 Cassandra Yahnian? after leaving, they crashed into the ice after only two days, leaving them to walk back without enough supplies and they starved or froze to death, or both. But this story didn't discourage Mikkelsen. In fact, it only made him think, I could do it better. And it encouraged him to get even more. He's like, all right, if you didn't let me on that expedition, fine, fair, that didn't go well, but now I'm going to get out here and I'm going to do it better. Everything's connected. All connected. When I read that, it was like, no way. But the story wouldn't exist if he was on that trip, probably. So basically, he was really inspired to be an Arctic explorer.
16:54 Cassandra Yahnian? And when he went out and he found a singular body and figured that most of this expedition with his friend, who had been on, had died, he wasn't, finding them wasn't the end of this expedition, because now he was searching for clues that he knew he could not return to Denmark without. He knew his friend, Myelis Erikson, had left behind karins, which are giant piles of stone visible across snowy landscapes for miles. And for Arctic explorers, these rock piles served as the only form of communication between them to mark their location, but also they would leave behind letters and journals detailing their exploration in case anything happened and to leave kind of markers.
17:37 Cassandra Yahnian? So now that he had found the location of one person and figured that the rest of them, their bodies were not able to be found, now he was on a mission to find these journals and these documents that could detail whether or not they found out if Greenland was a single mass or if it was split up by two, like the American explorer had said and thought. So when spring came and these icy conditions thawed, Mickelson knew he had to go back across the ice and find these cairns and see what his friends had buried in them. Over the dinner table in the ship's hull, he asked the five remaining crew members who would join him on this voyage.
18:20 Cassandra Yahnian? Only young Iverson, who hadn't yet reached 30 years old, raised his hand, but he had no idea what horrors he was signing up for. Even though the rest of the crew were not interested in joining the full expedition across the ice, the crew tagged along for the first leg of the journey. Then Mickelson and Iverson parted ways with their companions. The crew returned to the ship, promising to wait for them and see them at the end of the summer. But Mickelson told them, "If you don't see us, don't worry. Leave without us. We'll catch a ride on a passing ship." Which is a gamble, I think.
18:56 Danielle LaRock? That's bold.
18:57 Cassandra Yahnian? It's like, just leave us behind. There will be another ship. It's fine.
19:01 Danielle LaRock? It's like, do you know where you are? You're in the northern reaches of the world.
19:04 Cassandra Yahnian? We'll just hitchhike. It's cool. So they left. They went off without a backwards glance, not realizing that they wouldn't see another human other than each other for years. At that point, they had two sledges packed with provisions and sled dogs who could pull over 100 pounds each. By now, both men had become attached to their sled dog leaders. Mickelson even let his dog, Gurley, sleep in the tent with them, but he wouldn't let Iverson bring his own dog, Bjorn, in. The dogs pulled the sledges over steep mountain cliffs and wide expanses of frozen river. They even discovered that if they spit water on their sledge runners, it would freeze and make them move faster along the ice.
19:48 Cassandra Yahnian? So each morning, they would do this, then set out, eventually getting into a repetitive daily routine that became second nature. But it was only a couple of weeks after their departure that Iverson got cocky in his abilities in navigating the landscape and didn't slow his dogs down fast enough. The sledge went off a jagged crevasse, dumping a bunch of their supplies into the icy cavernous depths. Then, from over the cliff, Iverson heard a terrible sound: the howl of his beloved dog, Bjorn. The dog hung from its rope midair. Iverson scrambled to the edge of the crevasse as Mickelson screamed for him to retreat from the edge, but Iverson couldn't stand to abandon him.
20:31 Cassandra Yahnian? He tried desperately to pull Bjorn up to safety, but the rope broke with an awful twang and Bjorn fell to his death. Iverson watched him go in agony. Eventually, he realized his blunder had cost them even more than his favorite dog. He gathered the remaining supplies together and evaluated the situation. He had lost about two weeks of dog food, tea, and paraffin. It was a reality check for Iverson. He realized the Arctic could kill you and everything you love in a blink of an eye without a moment's regret. After that, he drove his dogs with a new sense of mortality weighing on his mind. While they had packed a lot of provisions, one thing the men did not take along the
21:16 Cassandra Yahnian? voyage was any reading material. They had absolutely nothing to entertain themselves with but a postcard Iverson happened to bring along of a group of young nurses standing in front of a hospital. It's like, just bring a photo of women, of nurses. They're still just men.
21:35 Danielle LaRock? Oh, my God. Something's never changed, truly.
21:38 Cassandra Yahnian? Over hundreds of years.
21:39 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, no, always the same.
21:42 Cassandra Yahnian? So this was their form of entertainment and in the evening, by light of their waning lantern, they'd study the women's faces. They didn't know them, but they would name them. They would say things like, this one should be called Miss Affection, this one, Miss Sunbeam, this one, Miss Sulky, Miss Long, Miss Short, Miss Steadfast. They came to feel as if they knew these women personally because they would make up personalities for them. It warmed their hearts and their beds a little, and they took their minds off the ravenous hunger, eating them from the inside. Then they'd get up and load the sledges and keep heading north, now over a hundred miles away from the Alabama. Iverson kept himself company on the sledges, singing his made up songs.
22:27 Cassandra Yahnian? Alone, alone, quite alone, between heaven and earth, alone with dogs and ice, alone, quite alone. He would just sing these with Mickelson being like, I get it, we're alone.
22:39 Danielle LaRock? I would, that, I know you have a thing about whistling and you hate when people whistle.
22:44 Cassandra Yahnian? I do.
22:45 Danielle LaRock? I hate when people sing like that to themselves.
22:48 Cassandra Yahnian? Just like making up things. Do you ever sing to Chaska?
22:52 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, but that's different.
22:54 Cassandra Yahnian? Okay, I'm like, I sing to the dogs all the time. I should be like, who's the best boy in Hawaii? You're the best boy. And I'll just do stuff like that all the time.
23:03 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, no, that's completely different. If he's singing to the dogs or sing. But I'm talking about when people just like kind of hum or sing to themselves when they're working away or doing something, you know what I mean? It's just
23:14 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
23:15 Danielle LaRock? grating to me.
23:17 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
23:17 Danielle LaRock? So this would drive me insane, but it's just beginning. You said they're, they're, you know, just a hundred miles away from the Alabama and this thing is going to last years. I don't know how they don't kill each other, but
23:28 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
23:29 Danielle LaRock? do they try?
23:31 Cassandra Yahnian? It's not great all the time. They're not, they're not thriving. That is for sure.
23:36 Danielle LaRock? They didn't bring anything to read, which is wild, crazy.
23:40 Cassandra Yahnian? Although like that would add more weight. So I feel like you could bring one book and then you just have to read it over and over again, which is something, you know?
23:51 Danielle LaRock? Yeah.
23:52 Cassandra Yahnian? Or even if they each had a book, you could switch.
23:55 Danielle LaRock? No, you switch off back and forth for five years or however long this lasts. I think that every single expedition story we've ever spoken about, they always have reading material. Yeah. Every single one. So.
24:09 Cassandra Yahnian? Because you're just out there.
24:11 Danielle LaRock? I feel like I'm one of those people who's like watching the Olympics on and being like, you stupid idiot. Why didn't you like, whatever?
24:17 Cassandra Yahnian? If that were me, I would have never done that.
24:20 Danielle LaRock? So I feel weird saying this, but I feel like that is such a strange move.
24:27 Cassandra Yahnian? I will say this is Iverson's first expedition. Maybe he truly just didn't know.
24:32 Danielle LaRock? Is he the one that brought the picture of the nurses?
24:34 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
24:35 Danielle LaRock? Okay. He knew enough that he was going to want to look at girls.
24:38 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
24:39 Danielle LaRock? But he doesn't want to enhance his mind. Classic.
24:47 Cassandra Yahnian? So funny. Almost three months into their journey, on May 22nd, they finally saw something on the horizon. They drove their dogs faster towards it and realized they'd finally found one of the Karens left behind by the Myliss Ericsson Denmark Expedition. They tore into the pile of rocks to see what was in the hollow center. A note from Ericsson from before his journey had gone badly, reporting all was well. It was the first of the five Karens come to find out. Then, when the men opened up the fifth, they discovered the letter they'd risked their lives for. In Miley's Ekerson's handwriting, Mickelson read the words aloud to young Iverson.
25:31 Cassandra Yahnian? "We reached Perry's Cape Glacier and discovered that Perry Channel does not exist. Navy Cliff is joined by land and Hellprin Land." So, there you had it. The two men fell against the ice in amazement. America had zero claim on Greenland after all, since there was no channel cutting it in half. Later suspicions arose that the American explorer, Robert Peary, had actually lied about seeing such a channel just to make it easier for the country to lay claim to this Arctic treasure. I know that this conversation has come up a lot in conversation recently because we're seeing this
26:14 Cassandra Yahnian? administration is also trying to take over again. And this is kind of like a full circle moment. So I kind of wanted to just talk about a little bit of why America is so and has been so interested in Greenland as a whole.
26:33 Danielle LaRock? Okay.
26:34 Cassandra Yahnian? So if you've been wondering why we're so interested in the 1900s and now, why do we want it so badly now? It's because ice and ice melts. And if and when a channel ever does open through its center, it'll give the US greater military access to the Arctic to protect the country against Russia and China. So it's a strategic military move. Plus, underneath all the melting ice, the land holds a vast wealth of minerals, now perhaps more valuable than ever. The climate crisis is accelerating this melting of Greenland's glaciers, and scientists are terrified that huge chunks of ice could break off and cause major sea rise around the world.
27:17 Cassandra Yahnian? In fact, the Arctic is warming four times faster than the rest of the world. So Greenland's riches will soon be laid bare for the taking. The US wants to lay claim to all the rare earths minerals necessary to build the batteries and electric vehicles for the future. So although it's kind of funny if you really think about it, because this administration a lot of times claims that climate change is a hoax. But in fact, Just the fact that they're going after Greenland is kind of them admitting that it's real, because if climate change is real and Greenland melts, we're going to get all of these resources to build a lot of non-renewable energy resources that we could lay claim to,
28:02 Cassandra Yahnian? but we'll only get that if climate change is real. So the fact that this administration wants Greenland is them admitting that climate change is real.
28:10 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, it's very indicative of like what they're true. Yeah, it's it's going against what they're saying, you know, but it's like, okay, well, your actions are telling another story.
28:23 Cassandra Yahnian? And you're benefiting from.
28:24 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, I'm just kind of looking at the map here. Just I don't exactly know where this supposed passage was supposed to be on this big landmass. But I'm kind of looking, and I know it's definitely not close, but relatively, based on my little dot here in southern Maine, the southern tip of Greenland doesn't look that far.
28:47 Cassandra Yahnian? It's really not. So I have never been to Greenland, but I've flown over it when I went to Iceland. And the flight from Boston to Iceland, I believe, was six hours. And we flew over Greenland not
29:02 Danielle LaRock? To get there, yeah.
29:03 Cassandra Yahnian? To get there. So I mean, for a flight from here to Greenland is not from the east coast is not that far.
29:09 Danielle LaRock? What have we been doing? What? Why haven't we gone?
29:12 Cassandra Yahnian? I want to go there so badly, especially ever since I flew over it. I flew over it during the day, and it was a crystal clear, bluebird day. I could see right down to Greenland. I could see like, I could see so clearly the ice floating around the actual continent. And I could see the breakage. I could see boats down there. I could see whole like the colorful homes and stuff when I flew over. And I could see the vast stretches of mountains and glaciers. And it was so beautiful. And I've had Greenland on my mind ever since. I actually have a picture on my phone from when I flew over Greenland. I have actually like 50 photos on my phone of when I flew over Greenland, because I was
29:56 Cassandra Yahnian? like, what is this place? It's so beautiful.
29:59 Danielle LaRock? Okay, so this can be a conversation afterwards, but why don't we like?
30:02 Cassandra Yahnian? Go there?
30:03 Danielle LaRock? Well, yeah, because you know, I'm going to Nova Scotia in May.
30:06 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah. Are we still out there with all this stuff going on?
30:10 Danielle LaRock? I don't know.
30:11 Cassandra Yahnian? I hope so.
30:12 Danielle LaRock? I don't know, I really don't want to go.
30:15 Cassandra Yahnian? We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.
30:16 Danielle LaRock? Because if I'm in Nova Scotia, I'm even closer.
30:19 Cassandra Yahnian? I love that this story is inspiring our own travels. We hope that people listening right now are also like, wait a second, should I go see the Arctic?
30:27 Danielle LaRock? The answer is yeah, for sure.
30:30 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
30:30 Danielle LaRock? Okay, yeah, let's, we'll talk about it after. Sometimes I forget we're in the middle of a recording. But okay, yeah. I forgot what we were even talking about. Oh, yeah.
30:39 Cassandra Yahnian? So basically, I was just talking about why Greenland is so sought after. And it's because, just to pull it all together, it's because, one, it's a military, it's a strategic military position, if there is a channel that opens up for that reason, but also the minerals that are lying beneath the ice. And going back into the story, he just discovers that the Percy Channel does not exist. And this is the news that Denmark had been looking for. And they're very excited that they found the evidence that they were looking for. But all Mikkelsen and Iverson knew at the moment was that Denmark needed to have secure ownership of Greenland, then and for the future. With the proof in their possession, they knew their country urgently needed to see this letter.
31:23 Cassandra Yahnian? They immediately set off on their 200-mile return trip back to the Alabama. But now, at this point, they only had seven dogs left. One of them was Mikkelsen's cherished dog, Gurley, who he refused to sacrifice to feed the other dogs, and who got extra food and slept in his bed with him at night.
31:43 Danielle LaRock? You're building up Gurley. I feel like something awful is going to happen to Gurley. And I'm mentally bracing myself.
31:49 Cassandra Yahnian? Thanks. I call Ember Gurley.
31:52 Danielle LaRock? Oh, do you?
31:53 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, all the time. But they had very little food left, so little, in fact, that Mikkelsen soon started showing signs of scurvy, a sickness from his lack of vitamin C.
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34:38 Cassandra Yahnian? At bed at night, Iverson saw his friend's skin mottled with black bruises. His teeth grew loose and his gums and started bleeding. He could barely walk across the ice anymore, let alone climb up and down the mountains. His legs and joints had become swollen like rotting melons. And even when Iverson urged his hero to eat, the man refused. Would this be the end of the great Mickelson? Iverson couldn't bear the thought. When they'd found some mold inside one of the Karens, they nibbled at it. "It counts as a vegetable," Iverson reassured his captain. But the mold didn't contain enough of the one thing Mickelson needed most, which was vitamin C. And I think this kind of paints a picture of Iverson too, because throughout this whole thing,
35:23 Cassandra Yahnian? he's singing, he's cheery, he's like upbeat and he's like trying to keep things together. And Mickelson is very much more like this serious Arctic explorer. And even now in this time where he's seeing the guy who knows what he's doing. And he's just kind of there for more. It kind of feels like Iverson is there more for moral support. And he's doing all this too, but-
35:46 Danielle LaRock? Golden Retriever, Black Cat.
35:48 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, totally. And now he's the one having to kind of take over. Iverson, in this moment, realized what he needed to do. He dumped some of the heaviest supplies so the weakened dogs could pull the sledge with Mickelson strapped on top. And never had Iverson felt so terribly alone. The only person who really knew what to do and his only companion was now pretty much down for the count. And he couldn't even walk or, or help with the expedition anymore. They trudged on, constantly in search of something to eat. Soon Iverson could contract scurvy himself and that deeply worried him.
36:27 Cassandra Yahnian? Their only hope was for him to hunt something down, but they saw no musk ox, no walrus, nothing. Then, one day, along the shore, he spotted a flock of gulls. He snuck up and shot several of them. Then he brought the carcasses back and laid them at his friend's feet and started ripping into their flesh. He and Mickelson ate the birds, only slightly cooked, guts and all. At first, Mickelson seemed apathetic, his gums bleeding when he chewed. But Iverson prodded him until his body realized that this was what he needed most. Then they gobbled the meat down, picking at the carcasses. But Iverson could tell right away, the meat was getting them the vitamin C they needed so urgently.
37:11 Cassandra Yahnian? So off he went to kill more gulls. The bloody bones of dozens of birds soon piled up around their camp. And it wasn't long before Mickelson was back on his feet again. And just the fact that his teeth were loose and like falling out and That's all I could think of during this whole thing. I'm like, oh my God, no wonder he doesn't want to eat. Like, God damn. Yeah, you have to chew this, but the only way to get better. And you're eating half-cooked meat, but you have to be so hungry to be eating half-cooked bird meat and your gums are falling out and your bruises all over your body and yeah. But within this, I mean, they're eating all the food because they need it really bad. And the dogs weren't doing nearly as well as them.
37:54 Cassandra Yahnian? Iverson had to keep killing them to feed the others. Which was just one of the most horrific parts of the story, I think, to have to choose the dogs that are the weakest and then feed those dogs to your dogs. It's brutal. One night, still starving and lacking so much food because they're only hunting occasionally, they ate dog meat for themselves. Iverson set aside the dog's liver and said, we shouldn't eat that because it was surely toxic since the dogs had been exhausted and starving. But it felt like such a shame to waste such a large slab of meat. Mickelson said he had heard of an old wives' trick to test whether the liver had gone poisonous. He said, all you had to do was put a silver spoon in a dish with the liver.
38:37 Cassandra Yahnian? And if it didn't turn green, it was okay to ingest. Mickelson unwound a silver chain he wore around his neck and then hovered over the pot, watching to see if it changed color. Nothing happened, so they cooked the liver up and ate it. They went into bed and didn't wake for over 24 hours after that. When Iverson finally came to, his head felt like he drank way too much at the pub. And they had gotten severely sick. So it was clear that this liver, the old wives trick that
39:12 Danielle LaRock? Didn't work.
39:13 Cassandra Yahnian? Did not work even slightly.
39:14 Danielle LaRock? You don't say. It seemed like hard and fast to me.
39:18 Cassandra Yahnian? To knock you out for 24 hours and then you wake up feeling like you just died and had the worst. It sounds like they woke up feeling like they had just gone on a binge. Like, gone on a binge and woke up and were like, where am I just feeling like absolute shit? And it's like, oh, that liver was not.
39:38 Danielle LaRock? I guess it was bad.
39:40 Cassandra Yahnian? But they woke up, so that was good. And they woke up and they're like, well, we got to keep going. So they just trudged on. Meanwhile, Iverson kept hunting for game. One night while out stalking walrus, he heard a bone chilling sound and ran back to camp. He found a polar bear dragging Mickelson across the ice and dead dogs scattered around the camp.
40:05 Danielle LaRock? Shut the fuck up.
40:07 Cassandra Yahnian? What? Just attacked by a polar bear.
40:10 Danielle LaRock? The polar bear killed a bunch of dogs.
40:12 Cassandra Yahnian? And then he was dragging Mickelson across the ice.
40:16 Danielle LaRock? Sorry, I feel like I kind of knew the story. I don't know this detail.
40:20 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, it's, the story is wild and there is a movie on it and they just don't
40:25 Danielle LaRock? They don't include it.
40:26 Cassandra Yahnian? No, they don't. The movie doesn't include a polar bear attack, which is crazy. They include a polar bear instance, but not this.
40:33 Danielle LaRock? No, not this. And not that I've watched the movie recently. I watched it a couple of years ago. But I would have remembered this part. Okay, sorry, keep going.
40:41 Cassandra Yahnian? I watched it recently and it is not in there. Iverson's hands could barely hold his gun because he was so afraid of what was happening, but he took aim and fired. The bullet hit the bear's shoulder and he reared up on two feet, then turned back to Mickelson, his humongous paws stomping into the middle of his captain's chest, and again, young Iverson fired. And the mortally wounded bear reluctantly retreated, diving into the ocean where he eventually died. But Iverson had to save Mickelson's life now. He got Mickelson into the tent and tended to his wounds. But now, after this attack, there was only one dog that remained,
41:23 Cassandra Yahnian? and that was Mickelson's beloved dog, Girlie.
41:27 Danielle LaRock? Girlie's the sole survivor.
41:28 Cassandra Yahnian? Sole survivor.
41:30 Danielle LaRock? How injured is Mickelson after a polar bear attack?
41:36 Cassandra Yahnian? He was really cut up and he had like a lot of claw marks and stuff on him, but it seems like from the description that he hadn't like torn into his body as much, didn't bite him. It sounds like he really just like grabbed him and started carrying him away. So he had a ton of deep wounds, like scratches and stuff all over him, but he wasn't mortally wounded.
42:02 Danielle LaRock? I just envision this guy just basically incapacitated. His teeth are falling out, his legs are, his legs are melons or whatever the hell. He's black and blue everywhere and he's just probably hallucinating after the bad liver. And then he's just laying there.
42:19 Cassandra Yahnian? He's not doing well.
42:20 Danielle LaRock? And then he's just being dragged away by this polar bear and I feel like he's just like, Jesus, take the wheel. This is what, you know?
42:27 Cassandra Yahnian? It's like, finally, someone just take me out.
42:29 Danielle LaRock? Yeah. Oh my God. And then, yeah, Iverson comes and shoots the bear. He's like, God damn, oh my God, that was my out.
42:36 Cassandra Yahnian? Mickelson, not again. Why do I have to keep saving you?
42:40 Danielle LaRock? Keep going. I'm worried for Girlie. I'm stressed.
42:45 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, Girlie is the sole survivor, but she was in the advanced stages of starvation and also traumatized by the bear attack. The next day, Mickelson put Girlie on the sledge and pulled her himself. But one morning, Girlie didn't wake up. She died next to him in her sleep.
43:05 Danielle LaRock? Oh, my God. Okay. I thought it was gonna be a lot more tragic than that. That's a peaceful passing.
43:10 Cassandra Yahnian? It's like still awful, but it is a peaceful passing and she was in bed with him.
43:14 Danielle LaRock? Yeah.
43:14 Cassandra Yahnian? Like sleeping next to him. In this moment, Mickelson wished that he could have buried her properly and leave a gravestone and he wished that he could have written, here lies Girlie, her little life of faithful and untiring service ended. But of course, he wasn't able to do that because they're in the middle of the Arctic. Following that, Mickelson burned the sledge and left behind most of their supplies and onward they inched because now they had no dogs to carry their supplies. So they just kind of had to leave it.
43:45 Danielle LaRock? I just can't believe this guy is on his two feet. He just got dragged by a polar bear. A what?
43:51 Cassandra Yahnian? He got dragged by a polar bear. He had scurvy, but he's doing better because he got food. He's missing some teeth. Irisen's still just hanging out. Irisen seems like he's doing okay.
44:02 Danielle LaRock? Have you seen the new Frankenstein?
44:04 Cassandra Yahnian? I haven't.
44:05 Danielle LaRock? Okay. It's just, it's giving me a visual in this version of or this telling of the story in this movie, there are scenes of Frankenstein like being blown up on the ice and stuff and just still staggering back to life and just dragging on. He's like, God, like just can't die type of thing. And that's what I'm visioning Mickelson as and Jacob Lordy as Frankenstein, but.
44:34 Cassandra Yahnian? I do want to see it. I just watched Wuthering Heights.
44:36 Danielle LaRock? Oh, my God. I had a dream last night of Jacob Lordy.
44:41 Cassandra Yahnian? Oh.
44:42 Danielle LaRock? I'm riding that high, honey.
44:43 Cassandra Yahnian? I'm riding that high still to this, the moment.
44:47 Danielle LaRock? You know how sometimes dreams linger with you?
44:49 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
44:50 Danielle LaRock? And you're like, God, that was a good one.
44:52 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
44:52 Danielle LaRock? Good one.
44:53 Cassandra Yahnian? Have you watched Wuthering?
44:54 Danielle LaRock? No, I watched Dracula and that was enough for me to fucking, I know I hyped it up. I'm still recovering, so I can't watch Wuthering Heights right now.
45:03 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, I have not read the book. I did try to read the book or I tried to listen to the book, but I was just having some trouble. Just the way it's written in the old timey language is kind of hard for me sometimes. But, so I haven't read the book and I've heard that people who read the book don't like the movie, but it's an adaptation. It doesn't follow the book.
45:22 Danielle LaRock? Which I thought was made pretty clear.
45:24 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
45:25 Danielle LaRock? I mean, it's in quotes on the movie poster allegedly.
45:29 Cassandra Yahnian? I really like the movie. There's definitely some weird parts in it, but I cried in the theater. Yeah, and everyone around me was also crying, so.
45:39 Danielle LaRock? Okay, so I'm gonna stay away for now.
45:41 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
45:42 Danielle LaRock? Like I said.
45:43 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
45:44 Danielle LaRock? Dracula was not my finest moment. I went in high hopes and I crashed out so hard.
45:48 Cassandra Yahnian? I really wanted like a yearning love story and so I wanted to go see it. I made Al go with me and I didn't tell him what it was about until we got there. And he liked it.
45:59 Danielle LaRock? Oh, good.
46:00 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
46:00 Danielle LaRock? Is there yearning?
46:02 Cassandra Yahnian? Oh, there's so much yearning.
46:04 Danielle LaRock? Like I said, I'm riding this dream high. It was so nice. I actually woke up and that moment of you're still, you're awake, but not enough. That if you try hard enough, you think you could fall back into the same dream you were just having.
46:18 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
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46:25 Danielle LaRock? I do.
46:26 Cassandra Yahnian? He, it's a, it's a really good movie.
46:29 Danielle LaRock? Okay.
46:30 Cassandra Yahnian? I really, he did great. Margot Robbie is just fantastic.
46:36 Danielle LaRock? He was just voted the most beautiful woman in the world or something. Like, I believe it.
46:40 Cassandra Yahnian? I believe it. She is really beautiful. And have you ever, I, I forget this actress's name, but have you ever watched Show Dirt? No. There's an actress in Joe Dirt and I can't think of her name at the moment, but she looks exactly like Margot Robbie, but she's older than her now because Joe Dirt's a pretty old movie and she was the same age as Margot Robbie is now in that movie. And I thought forever they were the same person. And then I did the math and I was like, wait a second, but they are identical. It's crazy. Oh, no, I have no idea who you're even talking about. They're not related or anything, but they look exactly the same. It's crazy. If you ever watched Joe Dirt, you'll see her and be like, is that Margot Robbie? And it's not Margot Robbie.
47:25 Cassandra Yahnian? I'll keep it in mind. Yeah. Okay. Well, going back into the story after that, so. Mickelson's fucked up. Mickelson is fucked up, but they have to keep going and they're really hoping that they're going to see the Alabama soon and they gotta get back. So onward, they went scouring the horizon in hopes of seeing the mass of the Alabama or maybe even some smoke from their crew's fire. They'd forgotten entirely that Mickelson had told them to leave them behind if they did not make it back by August. But August had long ago come and gone. They kept listening for the crew's voices and they couldn't wait to see human faces other than each other's. With only 130 miles left to go,
48:08 Cassandra Yahnian? the explorers made it to Danmark Shaven, an outpost where the Mileyus Erickson crew had stashed some supplies in a caron. The two wary travelers ripped open the rock pile hungrily. Inside, they couldn't believe their luck. Their friends had left them a huge feast. They left porridge, sardine biscuits, and even chocolate inside this can. The calories gave them fuel they needed for the last leg, but only barely. They eventually became so weak, they stashed all their belongings in a hole, their tent, sleeping bags, and even the captain's own journal and attempts to lighten their load enough to reach the ship. And this is the journal that they had been searching for this whole time.
48:52 Cassandra Yahnian? They left it behind because they're like, we can't carry a single thing further.
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51:42 Cassandra Yahnian? Finally, on September 19th, 1911, they saw the mast and knew they'd arrived. But they didn't hear anything. They didn't see smoke from a fire. And when they reached the mast, they saw it was no longer attached to a ship. In fact, the Alabama was nowhere in sight. Mickelson knew right away what must have happened. The ship had started to sink, and so the crew had disassembled it. Now, in its place, stood a small hut the crew had built from the old wood from the ship. Above the door, they nailed the ship's sign reading "The Alabama." And if you visit Northeast Greenland National Park, you can actually still visit this hut.
52:27 Cassandra Yahnian? A reminder of this real history. This hut is still very much in place. But, so they got there and realized that their crew had built them a cabin, but their crew was not there anymore. The crew had actually caught a ride by a passing Norwegian whaling boat in mid-August and left them behind, just as Mickelson had given them permission to do.
52:51 Danielle LaRock? So a month before, because this is now September?
52:53 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
52:54 Danielle LaRock? Okay.
52:55 Cassandra Yahnian? But they did also leave something else behind. They left plenty of provisions for another winter on the ice. Mickelson and Iverson moved into the hut to wait for a ship to come rescue them. They took turns scanning the horizon for someone, anyone, to pass by. Iverson did his best to serve as a cook for his captain, but wasn't particularly talented at the task. Plus, they were constantly defending their food stores from wildlife. A family of Arctic foxes turned out to be especially clever at sneaking in and stealing their food. But then a larger scavenger came to their door, a polar bear. They used one of their few remaining bullets to scare it off.
53:37 Cassandra Yahnian? But maybe it wasn't that terrifying encounter with the bear that gave Mickelson an especially prophetic nightmare. In his dream, he saw the crevice in the rocks where they'd stashed all their supplies on their return trip, saw a polar bear nuzzling its nose down inside and tearing its claws to dig it out. And worst of all, saw his logbooks and diary devoured by the beast. When he awoke, he knew he had to go back to get his books. They all had his notes and maps and drawings, every detail of what they'd witnessed crossing northeast Greenland. So I mentioned earlier, it was the notebook from the last expedition, but it was also his,
54:18 Cassandra Yahnian? all of his notes from the entire months that they had been here and he had been meticulously detailing everything to come back with proof for Denmark of what he had found. And they had left it in this cairn and now he had this dream of a polar bear just ravaging it. And he was like, we gotta go back. We can't leave this any longer.
54:41 Danielle LaRock? Pay attention to your dreams. And I've always said that. I just don't understand. It's like that is the entire point of you being here and you left them. I know it's, it was just the way of doing things. Clearly it's the way that the Arctic explorers have been doing it. But it just seems like the entire, that is why you're there. Why are you leaving behind? And it's like, what? It's a few journals and notebooks. It's not that much to carry.
55:12 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, but you have to remember too, is that there, they have almost no food. They're trying to get every pound off of them, every piece of weight. And also I imagine that their thinking just wasn't all there. I think maybe if they were well fed and hadn't been alone for months at a time, maybe their thinking would have been a little bit differently. And a little more rational, but I think in this moment, they were like, we just gotta get rid of everything. We gotta, we gotta make it to our crew. And yeah, maybe they were hoping their crew would be there and could go get it or something, you know, because they were just in such bad shape. So they decided they need to go back. So they packed up and headed back to find their belongings, which was 130 miles away.
55:56 Cassandra Yahnian? And when they arrived, they saw that a bear had indeed shredded all of their stuff just as his dream had predicted. He found his precious diary in tatters. Mickelson cried out in dismay, digging in search of the logbooks. Nothing mattered more than this for him. There were no copies, just these fragile documents. He felt himself sweating inside his thick fur-lined leather coat and pants. But then his hand fell on the familiar logbook and pulled it into the light. It was a little damaged, but still in one piece. He took off his mittens and flipped through the pages, feasting his eyes on his scientific observations, safe and sound.
56:39 Danielle LaRock? Imagine it's like, like the excuse, "My dog just ate my homework." I don't, I don't know what to tell you.
56:47 Cassandra Yahnian? A polar bear ate my...
56:48 Danielle LaRock? You're never gonna believe me, but you know, that really important thing, my entire excitement?
56:56 Cassandra Yahnian? The whole reason I'm here.
56:57 Danielle LaRock? And the polar bear got to it.
56:59 Cassandra Yahnian? I don't...
56:59 Danielle LaRock? Eaten.
57:00 Cassandra Yahnian? It's gone. Like, what have you been doing for the past...
57:05 Danielle LaRock? Oh, you didn't safeguard that with your life? Weird.
57:07 Cassandra Yahnian? The whole reason you were there. So he tucked the logbook deep into his pack, not leaving it behind this time. And they started the long, cold walk back to their hut. They reached the little house and built a fire out of some of the ship's remaining wood, but still the temperatures never got much above freezing. They fell back into old habits around the place. It started to feel kind of like a home eventually. They even adopted some baby rabbits, putting them in a box and bringing them inside to care for and play with. They also tamed an Arctic fox, calling him their house fox and naming him Prat. The boredom was its own kind of torture for Iverson. When he got a toothache, he almost relished in it because it was something new for him
57:52 Cassandra Yahnian? to pay attention to, something that broke up just this boring time here. And for a toothache to be a form of excitement is, is bad.
58:03 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, you're in a dark place.
58:04 Cassandra Yahnian? You're in a dark place if you're enjoying a toothache because it makes your life a little more interesting.
58:09 Danielle LaRock? But imagine a house fox.
58:11 Cassandra Yahnian? I know. So cute. And it just shows how much companionship they need. I mean, and they do have supplies now and provision, so they don't need to kill these animals to survive anymore. But you're just, all you have is to take care of yourself here and you're voluntarily taking care of a bunch of baby bunnies. Yeah. And, and you're hanging out with a fox, which is really cute. And then another breakup of just this, because I'm not going to go into their day to day, because it was literally them just like sitting there, like looking at the horizon, looking for help, not really leaving because all their food's right there. But there was another time where Mickelson developed a boil on his neck and Iverson had to take his big hunting knife and lance it, draining the pus
58:55 Cassandra Yahnian? from it and bandaging it, nursing him back to health. So that was kind of this excitement that was happening for a little while because it was infected and it was this bad thing. So again, Iverson had to come to the rescue for Mickelson. Did Iverson ever get sick? Iverson's thriving. Okay. I mean, I wouldn't say thriving because he's like going through it too, but he's pretty. It appears like he's doing well. Yeah. Said and done. We'll get into it a little bit in a minute because mentally it, it starts to get tough. Of course, I'm sure. Uh, and of course in this, their worst nightmare was having to spend another winter in this hut. They kept making trips out to an American depot called Bass Rock in hopes of catching a ship there.
59:40 Cassandra Yahnian? Twice they discovered messages from ships that were searching for them. In return, Mickelson chiseled his initials and dates on a piece of driftwood. Then, one time when they came, they found that a ship had just been there. So they're going back and forth and just missing. They had only missed this one by 25 kilometers. And of course, this news devastated them. They returned from this depot just silent and glum. And they're like, I'm gonna have to be here for another winter. We just missed this boat that's been out here looking for them. And all they did was put out a piece of driftwood, writing their date and name, like, we're here in hopes that. Don't shut and leave. Yeah, they're like, hello.
1:00:24 Danielle LaRock? Don't you dare leave. Come find us. We're right over here.
1:00:27 Cassandra Yahnian? It's like, we need you. By this time, Iverson started feeling himself going a little mad. Maybe it was the incessant howling wind, or maybe it was living on the verge of starvation, so they could ensure they had enough food for another frigid winter. But one day, while out on duty watching the skyline for boats, he saw something out of the corner of his eye and turned to squint at the shape. He found it was his old grandfather, sitting on a rock, looking out to sea, huddled in his threadbare sweater, his long white beard ruffling in the wind. Iverson knew it was a hallucination or an apparition. The vision faded into a swirl of blowing snow, and Iverson thought, "My grandfather has died."
1:01:11 Cassandra Yahnian? And later, he would come to find out that was true. Even their cherished postcard with all the lady nurses couldn't cheer the two men up. In fact, it became a source of sour resentment between them. They'd begun telling each other ever more detailed stories about their love affairs with their favorite nurses. The captain's girl of choice was Miss Steadfast, who he said was, "A pretty girl in a white dress and a free and easy attitude." But Iverson liked little Miss Sunbeam best of all. In fact, surrounded by all the frigid white, he could barely think of anything else. She looked so young, so happy and smiling, that it warmed Iverson's heart.
1:01:52 Cassandra Yahnian? But as Mickelson described his romantic exploits with Miss Steadfast, Iverson found himself dreaming of the captain's girl instead of his own. In fact, one day, while he was cooking some porridge up for breakfast, he found himself singing one of his made-up little tunes, describing his own romantic adventures with Miss Steadfast. Maybe he thought he was making a joke, or maybe he just admired the captain so much, he wanted whatever Mickelson wanted. Either way, when he turned around to look at his friend sitting at the table, he saw an expression on his face he'd never seen before: heartbreak and betrayal. It's getting bad. They're just dreaming of women. They've laid claims on women they've never met before,
1:02:36 Cassandra Yahnian? and they're getting jealous over each other, like pining after each other's women from a postcard. That they don't even know. It's getting weird. Morale's low.
1:02:48 Danielle LaRock? Morale is...
1:02:51 Danielle LaRock? On the ground. Yeah, it's in hell.
1:02:53 Cassandra Yahnian? Really low.
1:02:57 Cassandra Yahnian? All that day, stuck in that one room hut together in the middle of a polar winter, they didn't speak a word to each other. Iverson hadn't realized how much he'd begun to hold dear Nicholson's friendship. He felt like he had just done the worst thing in the world and he felt like he totally betrayed him and his captain would never forgive him. And as the day wore on and the silence became thicker, Iverson felt worse and worse.
1:03:24 Danielle LaRock? It's like, dude, you fucking saved this guy's life a hundred times.
1:03:28 Cassandra Yahnian? So many times. You're the only reason he's alive, but you just sang a song about his
1:03:33 Danielle LaRock? fake girlfriend or whatever.
1:03:35 Cassandra Yahnian? Girlfriend. And now you've done the worst thing you could.
1:03:38 Danielle LaRock? It's giving vibes of like the people that you see on My Strange Addiction with the dolls, that they they're like, oh, this is my wife. And everyone has to believe it.
1:03:47 Cassandra Yahnian? Yes.
1:03:48 Danielle LaRock? Because it's their thing or whatever. It's, yeah, it's creeping me out, actually.
1:03:52 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, it's it's getting weird. So he felt worse and worse, so bad, in fact, that he couldn't, he couldn't bear to even talk to him in person about it. So he got up early and wrote him a note that said, I'm so sorry. I took your girl. Take her back. Take my four as well. Take the whole damn lot, only to be cheerful again.
1:04:15 Danielle LaRock? All right, dude, it's.
1:04:20 Danielle LaRock? Do they get saved soon? I can't take it.
1:04:24 Danielle LaRock? Tell me a boat comes.
1:04:25 Cassandra Yahnian? They got, they got it. It's getting bad. They're not going to make it too much longer. That morning Iverson went about making their breakfast tea, waiting for his captain to finally find the note. And soon Iverson heard him chuckling and turning around. They both broke into laughter, realizing how an Arctic madness had taken over their sanity for a minute there. Iverson finally, they're okay. Iverson finally finished cooking up their breakfast and they sat down to eat it and just kind of laughed about.
1:04:56 Danielle LaRock? They're like, yeah, that was weird.
1:04:57 Cassandra Yahnian? That was fucking weird. Sorry, man. I don't know what got into me.
1:05:01 Danielle LaRock? Yeah.
1:05:01 Cassandra Yahnian? We gotta get out of here.
1:05:04 Cassandra Yahnian? It had now been 28 months since they had seen any other people. The summer was halfway over and there were still no ships. They invented a card game and grew snippy with each other when they tried to agree on rules. Mickelson swept his hand over the table, sending the cards flying. And again, Iverson later apologized, but it was just another sign that they they were at their wits end. They needed help badly. They can't play cards. They can't talk about girls. Things are getting bad. And one morning, still asleep in their beds, they heard a commotion outside their door and both men took up their rifles. Sure, it was another polar bear. They desperately needed meat and a big bear would feed them for a long time.
1:05:48 Cassandra Yahnian? Mickelson ran barefoot for the door, but when it flew open, it was no bear at all. It was a crew of Norwegian sealers. They had found Mickelson's driftwood note and the hunters had heard the Danish government was offering a reward for their rescue and thought to check Shannon Island. Mickelson and Iverson were saved at last. "Give us your rifles, boys. We come as friends," the ship's owner, a big-shouldered fellow named Paul Linnaeus, said in a booming voice. And Mickelson laid it down gratefully, but the two men were such a shock to lay eyes on that one of the shipmates fled back to their boat in terror. The Norwegians took a photo of these half-wild polar beasts.
1:06:33 Cassandra Yahnian? Mickelson's eyes looked ready to pop out of his head, his beard and hair like matted fur. Young Iverson hadn't grown much of a beard, just scraggly sprigs from his chin and upper lip, but one of his eyes seemed swollen shut, his hair standing straight on end.
1:06:49 Danielle LaRock? I'm looking at this photo because you attached it to our, like, our management board that we use.
1:06:55 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
1:06:55 Danielle LaRock? And do you know that, because I saw it, you know, a couple of days ago, I'm like, oh, she's doing this story coming up.
1:07:01 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
1:07:01 Danielle LaRock? So it's Iverson on the left, you said, with the beard and stuff?
1:07:05 Cassandra Yahnian? Mickelson has the beard.
1:07:07 Danielle LaRock? Iverson has the beard.
1:07:08 Cassandra Yahnian? Not have the beard.
1:07:09 Danielle LaRock? Okay. Mickelson looks like...
1:07:12 Cassandra Yahnian? Rough.
1:07:13 Danielle LaRock? No, do you know who he looks like? Joe from you.
1:07:18 Cassandra Yahnian? Oh, I could see that.
1:07:19 Danielle LaRock? He looks like.
1:07:20 Cassandra Yahnian? Disheveled version.
1:07:22 Danielle LaRock? You know, when he like starts to go, I mean, he's always kind of nuts, but like when he starts actually going crazy and he has like a beard growing in and stuff.
1:07:28 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
1:07:30 Danielle LaRock? I need to hear from people like, cause you're gonna post this, right?
1:07:34 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
1:07:35 Danielle LaRock? This post, this picture. It's all I could think. I'm like, oh my God.
1:07:40 Cassandra Yahnian? What are you doing here?
1:07:41 Danielle LaRock? You're reincarnated as the, what's his, I don't know the actor's real name. The more you look at it, it's not, but like at first glance.
1:07:49 Cassandra Yahnian? I can see it a little bit.
1:07:50 Danielle LaRock? His eyes.
1:07:53 Danielle LaRock? That's the eyes of somebody who's.
1:07:55 Cassandra Yahnian? Going through it.
1:07:56 Danielle LaRock? Life's journey.
1:07:57 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
1:07:57 Danielle LaRock? For sure. And the other one's just like, oh my God, I'm not even of this world.
1:08:03 Cassandra Yahnian? Get me out of here. I've been taking care of this man. Who was supposed to be my hero, this polar expert who I've been taking care of for, for a long time.
1:08:14 Danielle LaRock? Sorry, I just had to point that out because I was hoping you would bring this up so we could talk about it. But yeah, he looks like that guy.
1:08:22 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah. I could see it for sure. So they're looking wild, but once they returned home to Denmark, the two cleaned up. Their homecoming made news worldwide. Now photos of Iverson himself appeared in those magazines that he loved so much. But their excursion wasn't as celebrated as perhaps Iverson would have wished. They didn't even get much credit for proving that Greenland was one landmass. Another explorer, an Inuit and Danish man named Nud Rasmussen, went down in history for doing that since he actually saw with his own eyes, the bay that Perry had mistaken for a channel. He'd reached the bay right around the same time as Mickelson and Iverson were being rescued.
1:09:07 Cassandra Yahnian? In fact, Rasmussen had been trying to rescue them himself, but he got back before they did. And reported the news that Greenland was one landmass before they even got there.
1:09:19 Danielle LaRock? Oh, add insult to injury. Why don't you?
1:09:24 Cassandra Yahnian? Not only are you not getting credit for it. It's like, yeah, we already know this, guys.
1:09:29 Danielle LaRock? It's like, someone already did that. Old news.
1:09:32 Cassandra Yahnian? Old news. What are you doing? But for Nicholson, it wasn't about the glory anyway. It was about spending as much time as possible in the Arctic. His two years and two months stuck in northeast Greenland with Iver Iverson didn't deter him from returning one bit. In fact, only a few years later, he helped launch a scientific study of southeast Greenland. And when he became Greenland's inspector general, he helped establish several Inuit villages in Greenland that still exist today. But young Iver Iverson, his days of polar exploration were finished. He stayed in touch with his good pal Nicholson for decades afterwards, but his name disappeared from those magazines he loved to read.
1:10:14 Cassandra Yahnian? If you ever visit Northeast Greenland National Park, though, you might listen to the wind. Maybe you'll still hear his voice singing one of his made up little songs. Alone, alone, quite alone, between heaven and earth, alone with dogs, ice, alone, alone, alone.
1:10:31 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, I don't blame him. You know, it's just like, cut your, just leave it as is. Don't push your luck. It could have been so much worse.
1:10:39 Cassandra Yahnian? He's like, I had my Arctic adventure. That was the Arctic adventure. I'm good.
1:10:44 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, it's like, I'm just a mechanic that went on a side quest. It lasted a little too long.
1:10:49 Cassandra Yahnian? And it's so funny that Nicholson's the one who went back out because arguably he had it way worse.
1:10:55 Danielle LaRock? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
1:10:56 Cassandra Yahnian? He's like, oh, I'm back. And Iverson's like, I'm good. I did it. I did the most, actually. I'm good. And that's my story of their polar exploration of Greenland and how Greenland is one land mess and belongs to Denmark fully.
1:11:13 Danielle LaRock? And we've known that for centuries.
1:11:15 Cassandra Yahnian? Since the 1900s.
1:11:18 Danielle LaRock? Just in case anyone needed to be reminded.
1:11:20 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
1:11:21 Danielle LaRock? These two guys risked their lives to, to tell us all. Do you want to plug the Netflix movie that we both watched about it?
1:11:29 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah, it's called Against the Ice and it is on Netflix. You can watch it right there. And it, it's interesting because it doesn't follow the, it doesn't give as much detail as I did today. There's also, Mickelson wrote a book about the whole journey. So you can read his firsthand account as well of what they went through. But the movie is, it's, it's a good movie. It's intense and you see kind of the hallucinations. They don't follow everything to the T, but they do really hone in on the hallucinations of the girlfriends and the theories of the girls and.
1:12:04 Danielle LaRock? Yeah, I vaguely remember that. And I do remember, I don't know which one he played because again, it's been years since I've seen it, but Defoe is one of them.
1:12:13 Cassandra Yahnian? I don't know names of actors.
1:12:16 Danielle LaRock? Oh, he always looks evil. He looks like an evil guy.
1:12:19 Cassandra Yahnian? I think that's Mickelson.
1:12:20 Danielle LaRock? Okay.
1:12:21 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
1:12:22 Danielle LaRock? Yeah.
1:12:23 Cassandra Yahnian? Yeah.
1:12:24 Danielle LaRock? Nice. Well, thank you everyone for joining and we hope you enjoyed it. We'll see you next week. In the meantime, enjoy the view.
1:12:32 Cassandra Yahnian? But watch your back.
1:12:33 Danielle LaRock? See ya.
1:12:34 Cassandra Yahnian? Bye.
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