How To Leave A Bitchboy

A Father’s Day surprise - Sunday Sessions are back! Alex returns with an all-new Sunday Session, opening up about why she hit pause and what to expect going forward. She shares her top tips for snooping without getting caught, how to prioritize yourself in a toxic relationship, and why every single girl needs another single friend. Alex also dives into navigating insecurity in a relationship and how to balance work, friendship, and dating without burning out. Plus, a reminder that being alone doesn’t have to mean being lonely. Enjoy!

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• 0:00Alex Cooper?

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• 1:28Alex Cooper?

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• 2:19Alex Cooper?

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• 3:01Speaker 03

  Sunday morning, Father's Cownin'. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Every Sunday's Father's Day.

• 3:12Alex Cooper?

  What the fuck? That was pretty good, right? Is this thing on? Okay. Daddy gang, I know. It's a Sunday. It's a little disorienting. You're probably like, what? Wait, it's not, wait, wait, hold on. I thought you abandoned it. Have no fear. On Father's Day, I thought it is time to return to my children. Now, here's the thing. I have a Father's Day gift for you. I think that's actually completely backwards because as the children, you're supposed to give your father a gift, but I'm not in need. I don't need a fucking six pack. I don't need, you know, a new grill or a blowjob. A blowjob would be nice, but it's okay. I'm gonna give you a gift. And

• 3:55Alex Cooper?

  the gift that I'm giving today is Sunday sessions are officially making a motherfucking comeback. Boom. See, let me explain why they went away. Because I have seen a lot of you in my DMs. Where are you? Where are you, bitch? The interviews are great, but like, let's hear a little bit more of you and from you and give us some advice. And it's been hurting me in my soul. I feel like a sinner. I feel disgusting. I've felt horrible about myself. Don't worry, it's been eating me alive. Matt has to listen to it almost every night. The Sunday Sessions, just shut. Okay, then go and do the Sunday Sessions. This is why I couldn't for a little bit. When I signed my new deal with Sirius XM,

• 4:36Alex Cooper?

  I was launching two live radio shows that are every single day of the week. Monday through Friday, The Daily Dirty and Dialed In are on air, okay? And I didn't want to be a piece of shit and just like, take too much on and then everything kind of sucked and it was like, half-assing everything. If I'm gonna do something, I want it to be great. So I paused on Sunday Sessions because I needed to make sure that I was capable of giving it my all. Now that these beautiful shows on Sirius XM are up and running, you guys are loving them. One is advice, one is pop culture, boom, boom, boom. I figured now that it's up and running, I can finally return to the homeland, AKA this motherfucking couch,

• 5:21Alex Cooper?

  and I can give you guys advice, I can tell you about my life, we can gossip, we can talk shit, and it's a safe space. So, happy motherfucking Father's Day. Sunday Sessions are back in session, bitch.

• 5:56Alex Cooper?

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• 6:41Alex Cooper?

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• 7:24Alex Cooper?

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• 8:08Alex Cooper?

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• 8:50Alex Cooper?

  Now, I thought, what better way to kick off a Sunday session than take a little trip?

• 8:59Alex Cooper?

  Then take a little trip.

• 9:02Alex Cooper?

  Cover your ears if you don't want to be a part of this. Because you little brown-noser, some of you have said you've missed taking a little trip. A little trip. A little trip that I like to call, little thing, little, little, just little, little, very, very small, but it's just a little quick trip, little quick trip. What to, what to, a little thing I like to call.

• 9:24Alex Cooper?

  Questions of the mother. I don't know if that's gonna sound okay. Of the motherfucking week. Questions of the mother. The motherfucking week. Questions of the motherfucking week, bitch. Dan, Dorota, Dan. We made it. We're in fucking France, bitch. Questions of the motherfucking week. You bitches are in fucking need. You guys are like, things have been not going well. We're kind of regressing daddy gang and I was reading these being like, bitch, he did what and you stayed? Bitch, he fucked who? But you fucked who? Yeah, no, we gotta get together. Okay. Question one.

• 10:06Alex Cooper?

  Hey daddy, so I have a boyfriend who keeps a diary. Well, that's already fucking weird.

• 10:13Alex Cooper?

  I love the shade of like, my boyfriend is a diary. Like you could have called it a journal, but the shade. What man has a diary? Is it pink? Then you have your answer. You need to break up with him. Okay. Hey daddy, so I have a boyfriend who keeps a diary. Recently, I read it and found that he writes about how he gets off to girls. I confronted him about it and he just got angry saying that it was an invasion of privacy. I love a gaslighter. We recovered from that, but now about nine months later, I have found the diary again. And he is still writing about getting off to other girls and now questioning if he loves me. Help, I don't know what I should do now. We have been together for over two years and I am so heartbroken right now.

• 10:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay, um, the toxic in me needs to just like quickly give you a little hint. When you snoop, never reveal your source. You know what I mean? Cause obviously you said you found it again. He clearly took the diary, hid it in another cubby somewhere. He didn't think you were gonna find it. And then one day you were doing the dishes and it was next to the fucking dish soap. And you were like, the diary still fucking exists. So one, never reveal your sources because when you find some shade, you gotta know it's gonna keep going. So gather information, right? Never reveal. Secondly, if we're not being toxic, um, I'm concerned. On this Father's Day, I feel like I can be a little extra honest, right? Like you guys don't want me to cradle you and pretend you're young toddlers. We're fucking adults here, okay?

• 11:42Alex Cooper?

  So I can be honest. We can crap a cup and a cold one and have a fucking beer with your father. And I can be like, so he hates you. Maybe doesn't he hate you, but he doesn't love you. Men are so fucking lazy. Think about this, they're so fucking lazy. The fact that this man takes the energy, picks up pen, puts pen to paper, and is writing about other women. And then in the fucking second paragraph is like, also, I don't know if I love my girlfriend. It's, it's gotta end. You deserve so much fucking better. The fact that he's still writing about these women and now he's adding you into it. I think you have your answer, but I will empathize with you a little bit. There is nothing worse, honestly, than finding something out about your relationship,

• 12:27Alex Cooper?

  not just by the source of the person you're in the relationship with, right? Like whether you find out they were cheating through X or you find a diary. Suss in general, suss. But if you find a diary and they're writing things, no, that wasn't invasion of privacy. I'm sorry, he's writing about wanting to fuck 10 other women and that he doesn't love you anymore. Like, yeah, I think you're privy to that information, you fucking bitch. Not you, him. Last thing also is when you are engaging in a healthy relationship, you won't have the overwhelming feeling that you need to look through their things. Snooping isn't something that feels like, okay, he's finally asleep or he's finally in the shower, like let's go for it. So, um, case closed, you deserve better. Let's keep it fucking moving. Okay.

• 13:12Alex Cooper?

  Question number two. Hi Daddy, I'm 34 and single and I feel like my friends are always with their significant others. A holiday weekend is coming up and not one of them invited me anywhere. I just feel like I keep being the one to make all the plans. They make comments like, "I'm so glad I don't have to go out anymore." And honestly, that makes me feel bad because if I had a partner, I'd obviously love a Netflix night too. Anyways, I just feel incredibly lonely. Do I need to make a whole new friend group? First of all, completely sorry that you're feeling this way because especially I think as you get to the later half of your twenties, early thirties, later thirties, forties, I think anyone that's in their single era and they're around all their friends that are

• 13:57Alex Cooper?

  in relationships, if that's the case, you just feel like shit sometimes. Not to say it's all the time, but sometimes you're just like, "Fuck, I just wish I was on the same wavelength as my friends." That's life, that's completely normal, so I want to validate you. I don't think you need to get a whole new friend group, but I would say, have you expressed this to them in a way that is positive and not like nagging? Like, instead of being like, "You guys are always with your partners and I never get to hang out with you." What if you go to them and be like, "Guys, I love that you're all in such happy, healthy relationships. I, you guys know that's what I'm also looking for, but I miss you guys. And so I'm wondering if we could start to do more regular hangs or obviously I know your guys' schedule may be a little bit better, busier than mine with date nights and stuff.

• 14:40Alex Cooper?

  So like, you let me know whenever and like, I'll be there, but I love you guys." So that's first is just like acknowledging it to your friends so that they don't think that you are holding this resentment. Have the open communication. And then if they're assholes, obviously, sure, get new friends. Cause whether you're in a romantic relationship or not, your friendships shouldn't just become like completely irrelevant. Like, those are like the core foundations of probably how you found this great relationship and who you are today. So you can't just completely neglect your friends. But what I would say is, I don't think it would hurt to get some new friends. And something that I've been talking with my single friends about recently is they've all been saying something they love about their friend group is everyone knows a single

• 15:24Alex Cooper?

  girl, especially in your thirties. I feel like there's this beautiful camaraderie. Women who are single in their thirties, you want to hang out together. Cause let's be honest, in your twenties, it's a little hard to make friends weirdly, because everyone's kind of like... You're kind of transitioning out of college, you're trying to figure your shit out, you're trying to figure out your job. By 30, people are a little bit more confident in who they are and they know what they want. And I feel like so many women are like, wait, you're single too? Oh my God, let's go out for drinks. And so, one of my friends who is single, asked some of her friends in relationships, do you guys have any single friends? And they were like, wait, yes, this girl from my work is single, I'll connect you to. They've now connected on text and they go out every weekend together.

• 16:05Alex Cooper?

  And it's a fun dynamic that they have because they have this shared experience. And so, I think you need to put yourself out there and recognize, sometimes you need to build relationships with people that are at the same place as you. Doesn't mean you can't have people that aren't, but why not have a good single friend? So that way, on a Friday, if everyone's at date night, you're hitting up Bridgette, being like, Bridgette, you ready to go downtown and suck some dick? And then Bridgette's like, yeah bitch, I want to get fucking tag teamed with you. That is the kind of relationship that you're looking for. Something's in the air today, we're so fucking back. Okay, this one is so, this is a tough one. Alright, "I'm currently dating my best guy friend and happier than ever.

• 16:48Alex Cooper?

  We've been friends for three years and recently started dating a few months ago. I'm so beyond happy, but is it normal to sometimes feel like we're just friends? He was in a relationship previously, so I was constantly having to suppress any feelings until he was single and we would have a chance to date. I don't always feel comfortable being outwardly affectionate or romantic with him, help." Okay, this is tough because, I'll be honest, I have never in my life dated someone that I was first friends with. I've always just gone from, it's an attraction and then romantic. So I'm, I want to just like put that out there that I don't have complete experience with this, but I know my friends do. My first-

• 17:32Alex Cooper?

  Thought for you is I would assume it's completely normal that to transition from being friends, you have had a completely platonic relationship the entire time you've known him your entire life. And so to now be able to like openly be at a bar with your friends and be able to like hold his hand and kiss him, that's gonna take some like almost like learning new muscle memory. And I would encourage you, you can even say it to him like, oh, my God, I feel like sometimes when we're in public, we still almost go back to like being friends. And I want to feel like we are in this relationship. I love you. This is so fun. So I'm okay if we like ramp up a tiny bit on the PDA. And so maybe you are holding hands on your way to dinner and you are

• 18:14Alex Cooper?

  having a quick kiss at the bar. Obviously, don't be that annoying couple that's fucking tongue down throat. But you know what I mean? I think feel comfortable to lean into the things that you're clearly wanting. But again, I would let him know you're missing out on that. Now, not to be a skeptic, but I have to be honest, my biggest concern of all of this is sure, try the PDA, see if it works. I do think it's a little bit of a red flag that you're like, have you ever been in a relationship with someone you just feel like you're friends with? No. And again, that's just my experience. But what I'm worried for you with is, were you so attracted to this person?

• 18:56Alex Cooper?

  Because it was this forbidden thing, right? You just said he had a girlfriend, you couldn't be with him. Finally, you're together like, was this someone that you were at an arm's length? Like, you're so close to him, but you can't have him. So there's this forbidden nature that has almost been your entire relationship with him. You can't have him, but you know you're in love with him. And he's always giving you eyes at the bar, and you always kind of knew there was something, but he's in like, that's intoxicating. That's addicting, actually. And so all of a sudden, I'm worried that are you now at this place in your relationship where you finally gotten the guy that was always forbidden? And it's kind of like, It was kind of more fun when it was forbidden and now we're here and I'm like, you kind of do still feel just like my friend.

• 19:40Alex Cooper?

  Like that's, do you know what I'm saying? Cause he's always been your friend and now that he's supposed to be more and he still feels like your friend? Like you should have been, finally you're able to be together. Let's rip each other's clothes off. Let's fucking go for it. Oh my God, I love you so much. It feels like you're kind of like, huh? So I think you need to look at yourself and be honest with yourself about how much of a narrative did you create in the buildup to this? This is a really random note, but it's almost similar, I feel like to work relationships, like when it's this forbidden thing and someone's going to either have an affair or it's not an affair, but it's so forbidden and you're not allowed to be together. And then you like fuck once, but then it's like, now let's go into reality. Now let's live together and you have to know that I'm shitting and

• 20:23Alex Cooper?

  there's bodily things and it's not as sexy. It's like life is not constantly sexy, but when you're in a forbidden situation, it's only mysterious and sexy and that doesn't last very long. I know I kind of left you with a lot there, but I think you have to figure it out for yourself. And either one is going to be fine, but don't live in this limbo and a lie. You don't want to be just like with a best friend. You need to be physically and romantically connected to someone. In order, in my opinion, to maintain a romantic, long-term relationship.

• 21:19Alex Cooper?

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• 22:04Alex Cooper?

  With SoFi, you get award winning banking, investing, borrowing and more all in one app. So you finally know where your money is. Make your first move with SoFi checking and savings, competitive APY, no account fees, a bonus when you join with eligible direct deposit. Terms apply. SoFi Bank, NA member FDIC. When you're ready to invest or pay off that debt, everything you need is right there. As a SoFi member, you get access to SoFi wealth's world-class financial planners to help you know what to do next. Get started today at sofi.com/callherdaddy. SoFi, get your money right. This is a paid advertisement by SoFi Technologies and is not intended to be financial advice. Hi Alex, I have been with my boyfriend for four years on and off.

• 22:49Alex Cooper?

  He has cheated on me about five times.

• 22:56Alex Cooper?

  Sweetie, with random women each time he was drunk. This last time I caught him and he bought me a ring after and promised he was going to settle down and propose to me. So I stayed with him. It's now been five months and the ring is still on his nightstand. I know I should leave, but I've lost hope in myself to set boundaries. I don't think I'll find better. He's rich and good looking and I feel like even the poor guy. I feel like even the poor ugly guys cheat. So true. So what do I do? Oh my God, it's so annoying when they're like actually fucking ugly and busted and like below you and you're like, and you're still cheating. It's a, it's an insecurity thing. Don't get upset about it. Um, okay. Holy shit. Let's talk about this.

• 23:40Alex Cooper?

  I have been in situations where I'm in a relationship and the guy is successful and good looking and all the things. And I have just completely lost my self-worth and I have completely lost myself. And I'm convinced in those moments, even as shitty as he's treating me, as much as he's cheating on me, I don't know if I can leave because. There's gonna be nothing else out there and I've already invested so much time into this person like maybe it's gonna get better, maybe it's gonna get better. When you are asking yourself in a relationship, it's gotta get better, right? Like it's gonna get better. Eventually it's gonna get better. It's literally only gonna get worse unless it is mutually agreed upon and there's therapy and

• 24:24Alex Cooper?

  there's like actual genuine effort from both sides equally, which is so fucking rare. If you keep asking yourself this, it's probably never gonna get better. What I would say to you is it's so much less lonely actually just being alone because you have this straight path forward. You know yourself, you know what you want, you start to build your confidence and you're one step away from just finding that right person. When you're in a fucked up situation and they're cheating on you every fucking day, you it is like you're just trying to remember who the fuck you are. You're just trying not to have a pit in your stomach. You're just trying to get yourself to like even be at fucking baseline, not even happy, just like awake and okay and not crying that

• 25:08Alex Cooper?

  fucking day. There's so much energy, I think that we don't recognize that we have to put into these situations and it completely depletes you. It's almost the point is that you people don't leave because it's so exhausting because you're already so emotionally drained that he's hurt you so much. How am I even gonna be on my own? Like how am I gonna do it? No, your life will be better the minute you leave. My advice to you is a man who buys a ring as an apology, it's actually just gonna get worse. A man buying a ring because he cheated, he didn't buy that ring because he wanted to give it to you. He didn't buy that ring because you guys had this beautiful foundation that you worked so fucking hard to get and you're both ready to make the next step. No, he bought the ring because he's

• 25:51Alex Cooper?

  like, hopefully this will fucking hold her over until the next time I cheat and she'll forget and then I don't actually have to give her the ring, but this will hold her over. Don't be the girl that's just getting held over by him fucking up and then apologizing and then the flowers and that. Girl, you deserve so much fucking better. You are writing this in, you know your answer. Five other women, the minute you accept a ring from someone.

• 26:15Alex Cooper?

  It is gonna make it harder to leave. I'm not saying you can't because daddy gang, you know, I would tell you, even if you have a ring, even if it is the fucking day of your wedding, I'd rather you lose all that fucking money than go down that aisle if it's not what you genuinely fucking want. But each step, moving in together, getting the ring, planning the wedding, kids, all of it, each step towards a more formalized and finalized relationship makes it harder to leave. So let him keep that fucking ring on that nightstand and get out while you can. And once he gives you that ring and if you put it on your finger,

• 26:54Alex Cooper?

  this man is going to feel so relaxed. This man is gonna be like, ah, I'm cracking open a fucking bottle. I'm going to the bar tonight. I got this bitch on lock. I'm about to go fuck and get sucked and have the time of my life tonight because I know now she's never leaving. Now I got her right where I need her. She's gonna stay here. She's gonna be my bitch and I'm fucking living. That cannot be you daddy gang. Don't let it be you. He has shown you exactly who he is. Imagine if you reward his behavior by taking the fucking ring. He's gonna be like, I've got the fucking best of both worlds. I got a wife and I get to go cheat on her and she

• 27:38Alex Cooper?

  always takes me back. Don't let it be you. That's something that I feel like when I'm sitting here on the couch giving advice, I will admit like, I always want to bring myself back to the moment I found out one of my more serious boyfriends was cheating on me and the way you,

• 27:59Alex Cooper?

  you kinda almost can't

• 28:03Alex Cooper?

  like listen to anyone in those moments because understandably, everyone's coming at you to get you out. And at first you just want someone to be like, I know you love him so fucking much. Like two minutes ago, before you knew who he was cheating, you loved him and you thought that he was the love of your life. I so get that. So you're so disoriented. So you almost need to unpack like, yes, there's love on your side, but he is showing you actively. He doesn't respect you, therefore he doesn't love you. And I think you want to be with someone that loves you. How fun. How amazing to get to be with someone that respects you and loves you. And so it's like validating that what you brought to

• 28:44Alex Cooper?

  the relationship is real, what you feel is real, the love you brought is real. But at some point, you got to stand up and be like, okay, I would like to feel loved. I would like to feel what I give to someone, I want them to give it back to me. Empathizing, it's not easy to leave, but eventually it's all within yourself. No friend, no family member, that's also to friends and family listening. Like, you can't make someone leave. They've got to do it on their own. You can be supportive, but to a point. Like, you're gonna, maybe it's gonna take him 10 times to cheat, but I hope the fifth was enough.

• 29:38Alex Cooper?

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• 31:50Alex Cooper?

  This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. My coworker and I have been friends for a year now, but we just admitted to each other that we have real feelings. We constantly flirt at work, we're very touchy feely, and I was so excited finally to lay our feelings out in the open. But the issue is, he confessed to me that he has a girlfriend. Guys, this is like actually turning into like a really sad Father's Day. He told me verbatim, "I really like you, but I do love her." Now, I'm so confused about what to do next. Why? What, like, girl, come on. No. I'm so confused about what to do next. I really care about him and he makes comments about our

• 32:32Alex Cooper?

  future after his girlfriend, but it's just been months now and nothing has changed. He gets mad at me, though, whenever I talk to another guy or go on a date. I'm sad he's stringing me along, but I feel even worse for his girlfriend. Do I tell her what's happening? If they break up, do I go for it? Oh, my God. Okay, my first question is, why would you want to be with a man who flirts this much with other girls when he's in a relationship? Like you saying, once, if he leaves her, should I go for it? Uh, yeah, to then be the fucking main bitch and know he's gonna have a side? He clearly likes the main course. He's clearly going for more. You're never gonna be the only.

• 33:12Alex Cooper?

  I'm a little worried that you're interested in this and I get, I kind of mentioned it earlier. I get the workplace dynamic for people apparently is like, you know, there's this sexual tension. There's this mystery around it. You don't, you know, have to bring your baggage to work. It's fun. It's like, it's, I guess, fucking hot and you're seeing him in an environment that's kind of high stakes and so it's forbidden. But the forbiddenness goes too far when you tell me he has a fucking girlfriend and he's honest about the girlfriend and he says he loves her, but he likes you. Girl. Okay, here's my advice. I feel, I'm worried for you that you're not seeing how manipulative this is.

• 33:56Alex Cooper?

  Like, he is telling you exactly what you want to hear. He's keeping you at bay. He tells you things about your future, but then he keeps mentioning the girlfriend. So you don't get a little too comfortable being like, okay, when's the end date? Like, let's pick this shit up. So he's very, very good strategically about making you feel insecure, making you feel good, and then pulling it away really quickly. That is extremely toxic behavior. So you don't deserve that. But this man is never gonna leave his relationship for you because Let's say it was true love and the minute you guys started hitting it off, then he was like, "I have to go home. I have to tell my girlfriend I'm done with her. Like, I want to pursue this."

• 34:37Alex Cooper?

  Maybe. The fact that this has been two fucking years and he's just like, "Meet me at the fax machine" and he's like, "Hey Becky", and then he's like, "God, my girlfriend was so good in bed last night. I had the most romantic dinner, but I really like you. Oh, you would look so good in red lingerie." Like, the fuck? What the fuck, okay? And I don't think you need to tell this girlfriend. You... How do I say this kindly? Well, I said we're gonna be a little bit more like, rough around the edges, say, "You've been being a piece of shit." Right? Like, I think we can start normalizing, hating the guy that's cheating, but then also like, holding the woman accountable and being like, "But you know this guy's in a relationship, or you know he's married, or you know he's taking..." You know what I mean?

• 35:20Alex Cooper?

  Like, you as a human being shouldn't want to be the other woman. Right? Like, we have respect for ourselves. We want to feel like we are in control of our life and we're being positive and we're not like, fucking shit up, right? So, I do think you reaching out to her, it's like, fuck off. Two years you've been basically having an emotional relationship with my boyfriend? Yeah, I don't need to hear that from you. It feels, almost the way that you're writing it, a little manipulative, because it's, you also write in your question, "Well, if he leaves her, should I take him?" No. I don't think you need to engage with this girlfriend. I think you need to put an end to this. And she will figure out he's a piece of shit on her time.

• 36:04Alex Cooper?

  Okay, she doesn't need to hear it from the woman that wants to fuck her boyfriend. My biggest advice to you is, you need to cut this off. And how you're gonna do that is a little bit different than what I would usually say, because it's in a work environment. So, you have to see this man every single day. And I don't know how close quarters you guys are, but it sounds like you potentially also have to work with him, like, physically in person. So, my advice to you is, this week, you're gonna go into work, and when he comes over to your desk, or whatever the fuck, maybe you have a standing desk, maybe you have a sitting desk, maybe you're in a conference room, maybe you're in a fucking cubicle, I don't know what the fuck you are. But he comes over and you're gonna say, "Hey, I have been thinking about it a lot lately, and I wanted to let you know that this isn't working for me anymore.

• 36:47Alex Cooper?

  I've thought about it and I feel, I honestly feel really horrible and disgusting, and I don't like this dynamic of going behind your girlfriend's back and being the other woman, and I, I honestly can't explain why I've been going along with it for so long. I obviously like you, but not enough to feel dirty and weird, and I'm removing myself from the situation. And I ask that you respect that and my boundaries, and we can keep it professional at work, and let's be done with it, and let's both move on." And I think that is how you have to handle it. But again, really making sure you're like, "Respect my boundaries." Because if he fucking doesn't, and then he comes on harder,

• 37:31Alex Cooper?

  yeah, you're probably gonna have to fucking go to HR or some shit. But right back in if that happens. End of day, don't be the other woman. Because you never get out of it what you want, and you never, you're always feeling like you're this special prize. You're always feeling like, "Oh, he likes me so much, he's willing to go outside of his marriage or outside of his relationship." No, he doesn't. He actually has you compartmentalized in a part of his brain as this like fun thing that's like the secret. And the minute, if he had to actualize it, he's probably gonna pick his wife or his girlfriend over you. Because most of the time with mistresses,

• 38:12Alex Cooper?

  there is something that they're not getting in their main relationship that you're filling, but it's one part of it. You probably don't have everything else that the girlfriend has that that's why he's in the relationship with her, you know what I mean? And I'm not putting you down, I'm just saying, the reality is, being a mistress is really fucking complicated, and you don't wanna get yourself in that situation because you build this thing up only, if not 99% of the time, to be brought back down and feel like shit about yourself. You deserve better. Questions of the mother. Okay. My boyfriend has a very big issue with my past. He found my list of people I have been with and he was pissed. He actually broke up with me initially, but after a while, we got back together.

• 38:57Alex Cooper?

  The issue now is, I feel like he is constantly making judgmental comments about me being easy or having a high body count. He always says he's just kidding, but how can I get him to stop caring that I was with guys before him? We, I'm obsessed. I feel like every single girl has a list of the guys she's ever been with. Like, how fun? I just think it's so fun. Like, I think mine, I have mine written in a book somewhere and then I also think I have one in my Notes app. It's fun. You know, it's a fun little conversation starter when you're with your girls and you're like, wait, how many, wait, what? It's fun. It's life, okay? I remember the men that have been inside of me and I have a husband and that's okay. Like, I had a past. When I was with them, I didn't know my husband existed.

• 39:39Alex Cooper?

  Okay, my first note to you is, this sounds like a really insecure or possessive man. Um, I don't have enough information to know, but overall, that's not the move. I think insecure men have a really hard time wrapping their head around that you were with someone else and that's like really fucking crazy to me. Like, we've all lived, we've all had a good time and if anything, everyone we've been with prior to has helped us become the person we are today, right? Even the bad fucking shitty boyfriends or the bad hookups, they've let you know what you don't like, right? And so I think someone that's incapable of recognizing a past is a past for a reason, it's really immature.

• 40:23Alex Cooper?

  My other worry is the possessiveness. When you're saying he's making rude comments like you're easy, I feel like that's a really manipulative thing to be saying to you. I always go back to what my dad used to tell me if someone was bullying me when I was younger, like, I think your answer next time he says that, if you were just being catty, is like, what's your point?

• 40:48Alex Cooper?

  I was so easy. What's your point? Do you not want to be with me anymore? Well, he's like, "Well, no, I'm just saying, like, I'm really fucking shocked, like, how easy you were." What's your point? What's your point? Are you trying to put me down right now? Or do you want me to get upset? Do you want me to defend myself? Like, you let me know what you... What's your point? What do you want me to do? You want me to leave? You want me to call them? Do you want me to detail everyone for you? Do you want me to pretend you're the first person I've ever had sex with? Like, what do you want? What will make you feel better? You little fucking bitch boy with a micro and a fucking half-chub. Shut the fuck up. Like, it's so weak loser energy.

• 41:29Alex Cooper?

  Oh, I'm honestly, if anything, it's like, oh, I can't even imagine fucking you anymore because it's like, you're so insecure. How many people have you had sex with? Rod? I don't know what his name is, but it sounds... He sounds like he's a Ben or a Rod. Like, how many people have you had sex with? Should we compare notes? Like, it's so immature. Anyways, um, my advice to you would be, I think if this man is not willing to let this go and he's willing to ruin your relationship because of your past, this is not the person that you need to be with. I think it is completely normal in a relationship to talk about your past with your partner. Obviously not in a way that you're like, "Ah, me and Gerard used to fucking do that together on Saturdays.

• 42:14Alex Cooper?

  This reminds me of that." Like, no, you're not bringing fun, positive things from previous relationships into your new relationship. But without a doubt, with Matt, I have absolutely, probably talked about every single ex, serious ex, that he and I have both had. And we've talked a lot about the things we learned from those relationships or the triggers that we had from those relationships or things that we didn't like about those relationships. Because...

• 42:41Alex Cooper?

  I can say this, just coming from my own perspective, and I don't know if this is obviously for everyone, but Matt and I, from pretty early on in our relationship, agreed that being super open about our past and our exes and our just like experience with them in those ways, allowed us to get to know each other more and grow with each other and be more aware of like, "Oh, I know this thing upsets Matt because this happened to him in a previous relationship." Or "He knows certain triggers of mine because of previous relationships." That, I think, is really healthy, to be aware of where we've come from and what has created us into the person we are in a relationship today.

• 43:24Alex Cooper?

  So, what I do think you could do is have a conversation with him, sorry I had to like call him a little bitch boy nine times, but if you were being healthy, you could say this to him. "Hey, I have been thinking a lot about how you keep making these comments about my body count, and it's every single time been in a really degrading derogatory manner." It's not coming from a place of, even if you're pretending to joke, it's very obvious. It doesn't feel good, and it feels like there's anger, honestly, underneath it and judgment.

• 44:02Alex Cooper?

  And I am not ashamed of my past, and I also am not hiding anything from my past. So, I am more than open. If you want to sit down and ask me anything about my previous relationships, I am here, I want to be open with you. However, I refuse to feel like I should be ashamed of things I did or people I was with before I met you, because emphasis on it all happened before I met you. And I can't continue this relationship if you're going to hold something over my head that has nothing to do with you. And if he is like, "I'm so fucking sorry if I'm trying to get underneath why I was doing that,

• 44:46Alex Cooper?

  like, maybe it's because I'm insecure," amazing first step. And then you say, "But babe, I'm like literally here, like, I will talk about things with you. I also don't want to like rub things in your face, nor that I would want to hear you rub it in my face of your previous relationships." Unfortunately, the way that he's being so...

• 45:03Alex Cooper?

  childish and immature in the way he's jabbing at you. I don't know if that's gonna be his response. And what I can tell you is sometimes it takes leaving someone to sure, let him go grow up and one day, maybe a woman will meet him when he's grown up. But you shouldn't have to fucking train a man to grow up. That's not on you. Okay, we only have one fucking life like he can handle his business and you should yours. Don't stay with a man that is gonna make you feel smaller or less than and ashamed of something that at the time. Either was a great memory in your life or not a great memory in your life. Regardless, it happened to you. You can't take it back. You want a partner that loves you for who you are.

• 45:46Alex Cooper?

  Men are so fucking lame. Like, I can't. Are you kidding me? Okay, next. Father, I've been really struggling with adjusting to so many big changes at once. Getting engaged, moving out, buying a home, trying to balance work, staying healthy, nurturing relationships, and being present in friendships and family relationships. It's a lot. I'm in the thick of it right now and honestly, I'm struggling. Some days I feel like I'm barely keeping up, like I'm constantly behind and letting something drop. I know this is supposed to be an exciting chapter, but it's also really overwhelming. Did you ever feel this way and how did you get through it? Okay, I can definitely relate to this. I feel like

• 46:28Alex Cooper?

  something I connect with you on is when so many things are going well in your life and your relationships and the things and they're thriving and blah blah blah and you're doing a million things and everything like on paper looks like you're thriving. Sometimes that's actually when you feel not as happy almost because you're wearing a million different hats. You're having to kind of spread yourself thin and even though it looks like you got it all going on, you're only able to pour so much into every little bucket that you actually are just like, I can't take this anymore. You almost feel like you're at a breaking point. So yes, I get it. Work and life and relationships and friendships. It's so fucking much and sometimes

• 47:14Alex Cooper?

  I will admit like sometimes I feel like I only have the capacity for Friendship and work or work and my romantic relationship or my romantic relationship and family and then I'm like fuck I'm slipping on work like I don't know if you can do it all you know like I don't know if it's possible because in order to do something and feel fulfilled and be happy and doing it to your 100% like a lot of times something else has to suffer a little bit not in a negative it's just you have to prioritize so my advice to you would be recognizing that there needs to be a give and take and a balance and sometimes I look at my life and again everyone's different depending on their work and everything but

• 47:57Alex Cooper?

  like I look at my life in months sometimes I always joke to my assistant I'm like I have to see the month view on Google um calendar like please do not show me the week I need to visualize my month because what am I doing am I lighter on work great I'm probably gonna schedule a bunch of stuff with my family I'm gonna have either go visit friends or they'll visit me like I'm going to do more date nights with Matt like give pour into my personal if I know I have an insane work month I'm probably going to pour into my husband and make sure that we're good in the midst of chaos of work so it's like being okay when you feel like you're kind of letting things go because really what you're doing is allowing

• 48:41Alex Cooper?

  other things to soar and to be 100% on your mind and give your 100% to it doesn't mean it's fucking easy though sometimes I'm literally like oh my god am I being a bad friend I haven't called Lauren I haven't called Kristen I haven't called Jackie in two weeks and it's like no cuz guess what they're doing the same exact fucking thing cuz if they needed me they would call me or text me but they're busy with work they're busy with their relationships they're busy with their friendships so everyone's every month in my head we're all playing like who's up who's down what's your priority and that's okay also I think we have to be a little bit more lenient with ourselves like and I am definitely victim of it when you get so in your head if you miss out on something whether it was you had to cancel

• 49:26Alex Cooper?

  a date night cuz you were working late or you weren't able to go to a work thing because you had a family thing or all of your girlfriends went out but you have plans with your partner and you're like fuck I'm missing out on girls night I think we get this anxiety that comes over us that feels all-consuming and it almost feels like everything else you don't care about, but oh my God, I'm not getting to go to my girl's dinner and they're all, I'm gonna get pushed out of the group and I'm gonna miss out on inside jokes and they're gonna not, you know what I mean? Like you feel like you're losing and you're slipping away when you don't 100% prioritize something and I'm here to tell you, if you have the right friends, if you have the right relationship, it's gonna be okay. And I think sometimes it also comes down

• 50:11Alex Cooper?

  to where are you at in your life? Like, I recently just said on my solo episode, work right now for me is the most important thing in my life and so is my husband. And now my family just moved to LA and now I'm like, oh my God, I'm juggling, wait, Matt, I just dropped the ball. I forgot that we had a date night because I told my mom that she could come over for, I'm like, fuck. And my friends know I'm going through so much shit in LA right now that I, I don't need to be like up in my friends' assholes this month and they know that. So it's like, it feels overwhelming, it feels like you wanna do it all, but when you try to do it all, you're actually just hurting yourself. And when

• 50:56Alex Cooper?

  you have the right support system around you, even if you don't prioritize something, it will be there when you're ready to prioritize it. And it doesn't mean it will be worse, it doesn't mean you're gonna lose it, it just means for a couple days, weeks, or a month, or a year, that thing is on the back burner because you're putting all of your energy into X. Gorgeous. You can't do it all. And this is something I write about in my journal every week. I don't have a journal, but I have my notes app and I'm like, don't stress, life is gonna be okay. Your mother-in-law doesn't need to come over for dinner on Friday because you and Matt need to have a date night because you haven't had a date night in three weeks. Like, you just gotta prioritize. And, listen, I feel

• 51:41Alex Cooper?

  like I've gotten to this place in, I hate saying like, turning 30, but I don't know, you have to like use excuses in life to be like, this was a milestone. I feel like I've gotten a lot better at... Not being so stressed if I'm missing out on things, or if I'm maybe not a part of something that I wish I was, because I again know like I'm really, really invested in my work right now. And when I look back, I know I'm going to be really happy that I invested so much of my time there. And I have beautiful friendships and a relationship that I know can withstand

• 52:25Alex Cooper?

  me putting pressure on myself to push it and go and go hard these whatever many years. And I don't think that I should feel guilty about that. But I get as women, we do feel guilty. And it just takes communication. Like Matt always knows, you're super busy this week. Matt knows on certain days, he's like, oh, I'm definitely not getting laid because I know my wife is so fucking stressed. What can I do? He makes me a bubble bath. There's candles. There's wine. And sometimes Matt's like, I'm gonna get downstairs and watch the Dodgers. I made you a bath, babe. Love you so much. And I'll be like, Matt, that was so sweet. And sometimes I take the bath and then there's nights where I'm like, I'm actually not as stressed. I'm gonna come down and we're gonna eat together. Like, it's a give and take. So, I don't know, but it's fucking hard.

• 53:07Alex Cooper?

  So, Happy Father's Day. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. We're so fucking back. DM me or I always post the questionnaire on my story and it links you to where you can write in, Happy Motherfucking Father's Day. And go give your dads a kiss and a hug for me. And if you don't have a dad, look, we just hang out. How fun. I love you guys and I will see you in two Sundays from now. Goodbye.

• 53:55Alex Cooper?

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