Encounters x337 - Reasons We Don't Go Camping | Hauntings in the Wilderness

Nature can be just as haunted as any old house, and this week we're venturing into the wilderness. Unseen beasts circle tents in the night and mimics, not-deer, flesh pedestrians and creatures we’ve never heard of before all emerge from the darkness. Whether you're an avid camper or an ‘indoor cat,’ these camping and hiking encounters might make you think twice before your next trip into the forest. Stories Include: • A protection spell may have summoned a mysterious guardian outside two campers' tents. • A possibly haunted vibrator becomes an unexpected paranormal alarm clock. • Mimics take the form of a listener's parents during a terrifying night of house-sitting. • A camping trip is plagued by a scarred deer, distant screams, and unseen visitors in the dark. • A bizarre humanoid creature contorts itself and disappears into the hollow of a tree. See the Zillow Gone Wild images mentioned here. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan. Original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 0:47Corinne Vien?

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  Receive $300 off Prenuvo whole body scans and executive and comprehensive memberships through January 31st. For full details, visit Prenuvo's website to read their terms and conditions and privacy notice. Prenuvo gifted me a whole body scan. A Prenuvo scan is a screening service, not diagnostic. Diagnosis and treatment are determined by your healthcare provider.

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• 2:39Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:40Speaker 06

  I have a request.

• 2:41Corinne Vien?

  What?

• 2:42Speaker 06

  Would you like to go deep into the woods with us? And, uh, get murdered?

• 2:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my gosh. I'm so used to hearing-

• 2:52Corinne Vien?

  I started to actually panic for a second.

• 2:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so used to hearing so many different things come out of you. That is not one.

• 3:00Corinne Vien?

  A gargled snort is, guys, I'm falling apart. It's mostly burps that get cut out, but jeez, jeez Louise.

• 3:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But you get a snort.

• 3:08Corinne Vien?

  Now you get a snort. We'll keep that one in.

• 3:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're welcome.

• 3:10Corinne Vien?

  How yucky was that?

• 3:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do you want to go into the woods and hear Corinne snort?

• 3:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, hi.

• 3:18Corinne Vien?

  Little pig.

• 3:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello.

• 3:20Corinne Vien?

  This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 3:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two Girls, One Ghost. And we are your ghostesses. That is Corinne.

• 3:25Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 3:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I am Sabrina. And yeah, this is an encounters episode all about going camping, going into the woods, hiking, doing some weird shit out in the wilderness, and how terrifying and haunting those experiences-

• 3:39Corinne Vien?

  Doing weird shit, more like experiencing weird shit.

• 3:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Weird shit being done to you.

• 3:43Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Just try and go out and have a normal time with nature, connect with the trees.

• 3:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is there any normal time in nature?

• 3:50Corinne Vien?

  I don't know.

• 3:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because even when you're grounding, there's like a magical energy happening.

• 3:54Corinne Vien?

  That's true.

• 3:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's no bed rotting in nature.

• 3:56Corinne Vien?

  Something's always going on.

• 3:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 3:58Corinne Vien?

  Whether good or bad.

• 4:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I forgot one of my, the subject lines.

• 4:03Corinne Vien?

  The subject line. I saw it. Let's start with it.

• 4:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. It's called a haunted dildo. And you might be like, Sabrina, what does that have to do with the woods and camping and hiking?

• 4:15Corinne Vien?

  If there was one mention of a tree, she pulled it.

• 4:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, one sure way to get your story picked by me is if there's like sex with ghost or something, a sexual innuendo. I'm a 12-year-old boy at heart. Okay. Hello spooky bitches or booches. I hope you're doing especially well on the beautiful solstice day. This was sent in December 2025. I have two stories for you and I promise I am not catfishing you with my subject line. One is the funniest thing that has probably ever happened to me and the other is the freakiest.

• 4:54Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 4:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We'll start with the freaky one.

• 4:56Corinne Vien?

  Patilda?

• 4:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not the freakiest, the funny.

• 4:59Corinne Vien?

  Oh, oh my god.

• 5:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Freaky in different ways. Yeah. Again, freaky. Freakalique. Actually, my name is in the song Freakalique and I love it because of that. Yeah.

• 5:09Corinne Vien?

  What is it?

• 5:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sabrina.

• 5:12Corinne Vien?

  Sabrina.

• 5:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like when you're listing a bunch of names.

• 5:16Corinne Vien?

  You're one of the top 50.

• 5:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I can't get those bracelets or things at like souvenir shops that tell you your name, but I got freakalique, so I'm good.

• 5:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. My name is Amelia and I am from Mississippi, or as we lovingly call it, and I've never heard this, moistissipi.

• 5:30Corinne Vien?

  Ew, I haven't heard that either. It's accurate, but it's gross.

• 5:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Fun fact, it does not get cold enough here for bears to hibernate, which is relevant later, I swear. I was raised, as everyone else was here, conservative and Christian, neither of which are inherently bad things. But I also grew up in the time when children still played outside and I was always in the mud mixing sticks and leaves and making potions. During COVID, I slowly grew away from the church, and she put a TM next to church, and I started trying to figure out what I really believe. And spoiler, I still don't know. Life is crazy. People are crazy. So still figuring it out. But in 2023, we moved to the coast for my husband's job. He's an architect for NASA, which I think is awesome. So do we.

• 6:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it was here that I made a wonderful friend who is a witch. I had never met anyone who was actually a witch, so I was very intrigued and wanted to learn more. I borrowed a couple of books from her and I started doing simple cleansing and protection spells, which is basically all I do. My husband is a city boy who was raised in Charlotte and he had never been camping until last year. He has dreams of primitive camping and hunting and fishing for his food. I love camping, but peeing In the woods is not something I enjoy doing.

• 6:45Corinne Vien?

  No, me neither.

• 6:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So in January, when he said he wanted to go for a 13 mile hike and primitive camp, I told him, bring a friend.

• 6:56Corinne Vien?

  That's appropriate. I just saw a meme the other day that said, the best thing about camping is you don't have to do it.

• 7:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I will say the one thing about camping that I would be really good at is peeing in the woods. Like, I am great at dropping trout.

• 7:10Corinne Vien?

  I feel like I sometimes pee down my own leg when I try.

• 7:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, I feel like I can't. We gotta get more experience.

• 7:15Corinne Vien?

  I gotta get deeper in a squat.

• 7:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or you just have to like have a bad bladder and so you've had to stop so many times and pee in random places.

• 7:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 7:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Okay. Did I mention, like every other person my age, I have anxiety. Growing up, I would always pray for safety before trips and flying and car rides. And now I had something else I could try. I was scrolling one day and I saw this video for a protection spell where you write the person's name and draw a circle with oil and then make a ring of salt and burn the paper it's written on. The edges burn, but everything within the ring of salt and oil is protected. So I'm like, great, this is perfect. My husband and his friend are going camping. I'm gonna write my husband's name and his friend's name that are going camping and do this protection spell. Cause she was nervous about her husband camping. So I write their names and draw the circle. I pour the salt, I throw a chunk of tiger's eye in there for extra protection strength.

• 8:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I burn the paper and I exhale and tell myself that I've done everything I can to keep them safe on their adventure. The next morning, I get a text from my husband that they only made it half of the distance that they wanted to go and that they're turning around and not finishing the hike. That was all of the information I got. But of course, I was worried, like any reason for them to turn around and not finish the hike felt like something had gone wrong.

• 8:31Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 8:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hours later, my husband finally got home and he tells me what happened. So the trail that they were hiking was not well kept. So they weren't able to go as far and they decided to make camp about five miles and this was supposed to be a 13 mile hike. They found a circle clearing. They set up their tents about 10 feet apart, got a little fire going. And once it got dark, they put the fire out and got in their tents. About 45 minutes later, they heard heavy footsteps circling their tents. He didn't say how many times it circled the tent, but it circled for a long time, stomping and huffing. And then it laid down between their two tents. And he said he never heard it leave.

• 9:14Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh. Oh, Bigfoot just wanted to camp with them.

• 9:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sleepover.

• 9:19Corinne Vien?

  Just, okay, I'll lay right here and then I'll just pretend like we're all holding hands.

• 9:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's also like a dog who like has to like circle the bed a million times before like finally finding the laying comfortable position.

• 9:29Corinne Vien?

  He didn't feel so lonely in that moment because you could hear your own heart. He'd hear you were breathing. It was comforting to him.

• 9:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In the morning, my husband and his friend looked out of their tents. And whatever it was, it had gone. They packed up their tents and scooted out of the woods as fast as possible. They both heard everything that happened the night before and then stayed in their tents because they were so scared. But the reason this freaks me out so much is that I still had my spell on the plate when he got home. And his name and the friend's name inside of a circle. And the chunk of tiger's eye was sitting directly between the two pieces of paper with their names on it. What do you think? Did my spell work? Did it work too well? Did I accidentally summon something to protect them while they slept? That's what I believe, but it gives me the heebie jeebies thinking about it.

• 10:14Corinne Vien?

  I mean, she did also mention that bears don't hibernate down there.

• 10:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But there was no like evidence of anything having been there.

• 10:21Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. And you'd think the bear would have gone for like food or like that they'd hear the noises of a bear because I don't think it just

• 10:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, they just heard like huffing and stomping.

• 10:31Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 10:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like breathe, heavy breathing and like moving around the tents. And the, the protection spell that Amelia did was making a circle, going around the tents. The two names and pieces of paper inside the circle and the tiger's eye in between their two names.

• 10:47Corinne Vien?

  Does this mean that her familiar is

• 10:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is it a Bigfoot?

• 10:52Corinne Vien?

  Is it a Bigfoot? Or like a bear of some sorts, like something magical and spiritual from the wilderness?

• 10:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All I know is I feel like you gotta do it again. Send your husband and his friend out camping again. And do the same protection spell and see if it happens again. It's a scientific experiment.

• 11:06Corinne Vien?

  Kind of crazy.

• 11:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't that really cool?

• 11:08Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 11:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 11:09Corinne Vien?

  That it's a perfectly mirrored.

• 11:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 11:11Corinne Vien?

  You're a witch.

• 11:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're a witch. And then also, yes, it's scary, but it sounds like both her husband and her husband's friend didn't leave the tents, which granted, I probably wouldn't either, because like going out to the danger seems scarier. But they both stayed in their tents like the whole night and like slept. So they were protected.

• 11:30Corinne Vien?

  They were.

• 11:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Nothing harmed them.

• 11:32Corinne Vien?

  Nothing pawed or clawed at the tent. It just simply sat between them.

• 11:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Snuggled. Okay. And here for the subject line, haunted dildo. So this was a couple of months ago. It was a Tuesday after a day I had off of work. So I have my alarm set from Monday through Friday, so I never have to think about them. But because it was a holiday, I had turned off the alarm on Sunday night and forgot to turn it back on before bed on Monday. I like to wake up really early, so I have enough time to sit in the dark, drink a cup of coffee, and take things slowly in the morning, because if I have to rush out the door, I'm a total bitch and I'll be angry the rest of the day. I am a lady. And like all ladies, I have a nice little discreet box on my nightstand full of toys. It would be more discreet if the box wasn't overflowing and the lid would fit on it, but that's another issue.

• 12:19Corinne Vien?

  It's overflowing.

• 12:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How many toys do you have?

• 12:24Corinne Vien?

  You need a bigger box. For the toys for your box.

• 12:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  When was it that I pitched a dildo, a Bigfoot dildo?

• 12:31Corinne Vien?

  Oh God, I don't even remember that happening.

• 12:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it was many years ago. I pitched that we come out with like a line of like haunted dildos, but it's like a Bigfoot, an alien, a ghost, like.

• 12:44Corinne Vien?

  One that has a voice recorded of moaning, but it's supposed to be a ghost.

• 12:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anywho.

• 12:53Corinne Vien?

  Random screams. You don't know what interval it's gonna happen at.

• 12:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like a wailing woman.

• 13:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The Bigfoot is just like really aggressive. The Bigfoot is just really aggressive, like animal calls. We, we use the Bigfoot calling.

• 13:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All right, these are not turning anyone on.

• 13:14Corinne Vien?

  You know, we haven't quite figured out how to get people to buy it yet.

• 13:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Listen, this is a business that lives literally on this podcast and doesn't exist in real world.

• 13:22Corinne Vien?

  It's a collector's item only. You keep them in a box.

• 13:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One day.

• 13:26Corinne Vien?

  It's like the vintage Barbies. Put them in your basement.

• 13:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you don't open it.

• 13:30Corinne Vien?

  You don't open it.

• 13:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, it's a, yeah, it's a collector's item.

• 13:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so, of course, this morning, my alarm did not go off. About 10 minutes after our alarm normally goes off, something started buzzing. Immediately, I grabbed my phone to turn off my alarm, but it's not my alarm. So I'm like, hmm, that's weird. I wake up, I turn the light on, and I start looking for what's vibrating, and I realize the noise is coming from my nightstand. And my husband does not like to wake up as early as I do, so he rolls over and says, please turn that alarm off. And I'm like, it's not my alarm. So I'm trying to find what is making this racket, and I notice it is coming from my special little fun box. So I grabbed the lid, and I see that the dildo on top is going full force. We're not talking the vvvv setting. We're talking the vvvv setting.

• 14:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This bitch is on the like, max setting, and it will not turn off. I'm obviously laughing my ass off, and I take it into the hall, and I throw it down the hall. My poor husband's already awake. There's nothing he could do about it at this point. I'm laughing so hard. He is also like annoyed. So he gets up, he goes to try to turn it off too, and failed. He even tried to snap it, thinking that would make it stop.

• 14:39Corinne Vien?

  Snap it.

• 14:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Break the thing. You can't break our Bigfoot dildo. Don't you worry.

• 14:45Corinne Vien?

  I feel like those things, yeah, are hard to break.

• 14:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So he took it to the garage and put it in a bucket so that it didn't start an electrical fire if it was like something wrong with it.

• 14:54Corinne Vien?

  Can you imagine the fire department having to come? And your dildo's on fire in like a Home Depot orange bucket?

• 15:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I am sure they have been called to weirder things. But he threw it in a bucket in the garage and this thing buzzed until it could buzz no more. But yeah, I feel like it went off because the spirit knew that my alarm wasn't gonna go off and knew that I would be upset if I didn't wake up.

• 15:15Corinne Vien?

  What else vibrates in here?

• 15:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's my story.

• 15:18Corinne Vien?

  These twelve trinkets.

• 15:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Of the haunted dildo. I hope it tickles you both. Again, happy solstice and happy haunting, Amelia.

• 15:26Corinne Vien?

  You know what it reminded me of is Hetty from the show Ghosts. I was like, that would so be something that she like tries to turn on.

• 15:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, for sure. You're a ghost, you turn it on and then you like it so much, you keep it going. And you're like, well, we're not turning this off because it's so fun to observe.

• 15:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it could be something that they've never seen before.

• 15:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I'm also sorry for your loss of your vibrator because it was on top, meaning it's probably your favorite.

• 15:50Corinne Vien?

  It was most recently used. Man.

• 15:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 15:54Corinne Vien?

  That is very funny though. And also props to the ghost for still waking you up.

• 16:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly.

• 16:01Corinne Vien?

  And using their resources, what's around.

• 16:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you got to wa- wake up with laughter.

• 16:05Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm, and you had a witness, your husband.

• 16:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, exactly. That's a good way to wake up. I think that I actually think that's better than being woken up by an alarm.

• 16:13Corinne Vien?

  Or you can start a new line of alarm clocks that's just vibrating dildos.

• 16:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, the same thing you could do on your phone, a vibrating alarm.

• 16:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, just in case you wake up feeling a certain way.

• 16:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that's a new, new addition to our dildo line.

• 16:29Corinne Vien?

  Oh, man.

• 16:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenewvo in a couple of weeks.

• 16:37Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 16:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I recently had some medical issues in my family and everyone in my family is like, let's just do everything we can to get ahead and take our own health into our own hands. Prenewvo's whole body scan is a radiation-free MRI designed to help provide a detailed, non-invasive look at your body in under an hour, and it helps evaluate across major organs and systems, including the brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis, and more. Prenewvo's whole body scan can help detect many cancers, aneurysms, and hundreds of other conditions. And they have memberships. That bundle MRI scans, blood panels, and a personalized results review to track your health year after year.

• 17:19Corinne Vien?

  To learn more about Prenuvo and get $300 off your whole body MRI, go to prenuvo.com/tgog and use code TGOG. That's P R E N U V O dot com slash T G O G. Terms and conditions apply.

• 17:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Receive $300 off Prenuvo whole body scans and executive and comprehensive memberships through January 31st. For full details, visit Prenuvo's website to read their terms and conditions and privacy notice. Prenuvo gifted me a whole body scan. A Prenuvo scan is a screening service, not diagnostic. Diagnosis and treatment are determined by your health care provider.

• 17:50Corinne Vien?

  I have a story from a listener named Orla.

• 17:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh, I like that name.

• 17:55Corinne Vien?

  Isn't it Irish?

• 17:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Probably, it sounds like a fay.

• 17:58Corinne Vien?

  I swear, there's an Orla in the show Dairy Girls.

• 18:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is there?

• 18:02Corinne Vien?

  I could be wrong. Are you Googling? I'm getting fact checked. I rarely do.

• 18:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Orla McCool.

• 18:08Corinne Vien?

  Okay, yes. I liked, I liked her character. Okay. Hi ladies, my name is Orla. I'm so happy I found your podcast, but let me get into my story. It's a little bit long, so get nice and comfy. It's not that long. I've experienced things my whole life, with every single house that I've lived in having some kind of activity, including mimics. And let me know if you want these stories too.

• 18:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 18:28Corinne Vien?

  We do.

• 18:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mimic stories are so creepy.

• 18:31Corinne Vien?

  In this story that I'm going to share with you, it happened while I was on a camping trip in the Sawatch Mountain Range. Sawatch. S A W A T C H. It was me, my two cousins. I'll call the younger one S and the older one R. My grandma and my sister, who I will call A. So S and R, the cousins, grandma, and then sister A.

• 18:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 18:53Corinne Vien?

  And also, my grandma's friend was with us. It was our last night, and in the morning, we had to pack up and get home. And to give some context, this particular camp had a lake that was about 15 minute walk from our campsite. I wanted to see the lake at night, so my grandma, my two cousins, and my sister and I were all going to walk with me, while my grandma's friend and my grandma's dog, Aspen, were going to stay back at the campsite. Before we even left, the dog Aspen was super uneasy.

• 19:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Just your pet.

• 19:21Corinne Vien?

  Growling into the trees. And my cousins became hesitant to go, feeling uneasy for some reason. And they didn't just want my grandma and I to go, so they ended up coming anyway.

• 19:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's good friends, good cousins.

• 19:34Corinne Vien?

  We thought maybe Aspen had seen some little animals, so we just kind of brushed off her reaction. After dinner, so like maybe around eight PM, I think, we began walking to the lake. It was a little stormy and there was some thunder in the distance. Why are you still going? This is so creepy, but also so cool.

• 19:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like that's like such a good ambiance, though.

• 19:52Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Yeah. And if you have your whole group with you. And as we walked, everyone except my grandma got an increasingly bad gut feeling. And some more context.

• 20:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's wrong with grandma's gut? Does she have IBS?

• 20:06Corinne Vien?

  Well, she said, for context, my grandma's very spiritually closed off. She does not believe in anything paranormal. Both of my cousins and my sister began voicing these weird feelings, but I didn't say anything. That was very much a mistake. As we continued, I felt increasingly uneasy, but I chose to ignore it because I was like, no, I need to see the lake at night.

• 20:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is like dueling energies, almost being like, one is luring you to the lake, even though everything in your body is trying to say no.

• 20:34Corinne Vien?

  Everything and everyone, the dog, like literally, more or less the only person who's like, we must continue to the lake. Everyone else is like, turn around, turn around. The sky got increasingly dark, the thunder got louder. And as we were maybe about 50 feet from the lake, a huge flash of lightning struck down above the mountain and illuminated the shadow of some kind of animal.

• 20:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh creepy.

• 20:59Corinne Vien?

  My cousins were like, what the actual hell is that? And so I shined my light up to see it, standing still in the middle of the road, was some sort of cat-like creature. It was hunched extremely unnaturally. Like its front arms were almost bent backwards. Its head, from what I could see, was twisted. And it had this odd pale gray brown color. It didn't have any markings, a small body or short tail of a bobcat. It didn't look like a mountain lion and it had this medium sized tail. We later found out from the camp host that only bobcats and mountain lions were around the camp.

• 21:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The way it's described, looks like actors in the Broadway musical Cats.

• 21:41Corinne Vien?

  Kind of, yeah. Totally. Just like messed up. You're like, wait. I know some animals, and this looks not enough like any of those. So S immediately freaked out, turned around and started running. I pulled her back and I was like, calm down. If it's an actual animal, you're going to make it chase us. So instead, we just sped walked back to the campsite. A few times, my grandma made me turn the flashlight around to look to see if we were being followed because she felt like we were and we all had the overwhelming feeling of being watched. So we made our way back to the campsite. The sky had cleared up and we wanted our grandma to sleep in our tent. So we left grandma's friend alone. Sorry about that.

• 22:19Corinne Vien?

  Also important to know, I am Native American. I carry a little pouch of corn pollen and sage around, which I sprinkled on the entrances of the tent that night. We all got settled and my cousins and I were still very on edge. So of course we were all just kind of listening to the sound of nighttime. Soft winds, but otherwise quiet. Then the sound of someone walking in circles around our tent. And I don't mean distant. I mean, they were right there. You could hear whatever it was brushing against the side of our tent. Heavy, slow footfalls. Then the sound of growling. But I don't mean like an animal growling. It was like someone's stomach was growling and it was really loud. And none of our stomachs were growling at the time. And my grandma couldn't hear the noise.

• 23:03Corinne Vien?

  Then the creepiest part, murmuring. It sounded like a man was muttering, but his words were indistinguishable. It didn't sound like any language I'd ever heard in my life. And now my grandma's dog was growling, but I basically gaslit myself into thinking that it was Aspen this whole time.

• 23:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I want to do that too.

• 23:21Corinne Vien?

  The next morning, we're talking, we realized we all heard the exact same thing. And let me tell you, I was very happy that that was our last night there. I will for sure not be going back. Kind regards, Orlo.

• 23:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, this is another reason to not deny your gut feelings. Listen to your gut at all times.

• 23:41Corinne Vien?

  But it's hard because like Orla was kind of battling two things at once.

• 23:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, but everyone else kept going, like tie Orla down in the tent.

• 23:49Corinne Vien?

  Say no, we'll go see it. You don't need to see it at night. There's something creepy here. I have a bad feeling about this. Everyone feels like this is a bad idea, but you.

• 23:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, also the haunting is very similar, like the walking around the tent and like pacing around the tent. That I feel like that's such a common paranormal experience while camping, but it sounds so familiar or so similar to the first story from Amelia.

• 24:08Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 24:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I'm like, were you in the same area?

• 24:11Corinne Vien?

  What's going on? And it was a storm and I feel like storms and the energy that's brought in can add to the paranormal. And how creepy, like feeling like you're being watched and followed is a very mountain lion thing, right? To be stopped.

• 24:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 24:24Corinne Vien?

  But they saw the creature.

• 24:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it like truly, look at this picture. I will put it in the YouTube video. This is what I imagine.

• 24:34Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Dude, I've never seen cats, but I've seen enough clips.

• 24:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's haunting. It's like a not deer.

• 24:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 24:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But cat like and standing, any animal standing on its hind legs.

• 24:47Corinne Vien?

  Illuminated too with the lightning and like that's how you see it is like lightning strikes the mountain top in front of you.

• 24:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's a horror movie.

• 24:54Corinne Vien?

  It is.

• 24:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is why I love talking about paranormal experiences from people camping, but I don't want to go camping.

• 25:01Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 25:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like backyard camping is as far as I'll go. And even that, I'll probably go inside at night.

• 25:06Corinne Vien?

  Scared of backyard camping.

• 25:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's safer than out in the actual wilderness.

• 25:11Corinne Vien?

  I guess. Tent camping scares me, even though I grew up doing it.

• 25:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. I, I feel like I've, I've become so much more of like, keep me inside.

• 25:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 25:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Princess.

• 25:21Corinne Vien?

  Have all my security cameras pointed at every angle.

• 25:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 25:24Corinne Vien?

  If my security camera fails, guess what? I've got bird cameras around my property. I'll see you somehow. See ya. There's not a blind spot.

• 25:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, well, here are some more experiences that would make you want to stay inside. Although, maybe you're not safe inside either. And I'm actually very excited about this because some of you out there created a Reddit forum for Two Girls One Ghost, mostly to conspire about my personal life, but over time, as my personal life has become less tea, people have been using it to talk about the paranormal. And the other week, I saw someone, a listener, posted their paranormal experience on our Two Girls One Ghost Reddit, and I have to read it.

• 26:05Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, I'm excited.

• 26:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So this was posted by lame underscore zombie.

• 26:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it was titled, "I saw my dad outside at 1:30 a.m., but he was home asleep."

• 26:16Corinne Vien?

  That's so creepy.

• 26:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey Reddit, first post, be nice. Context, this happened pre-COVID, like 2018 or 2019, and I was around 13 or 14. I live in western Pennsylvania, right on the edge of the Appalachia Mountains. If you know, you know. My uncle lives about five minutes down the road from me, and I've had some weird paranormal experiences at his house before. This one, though, sticks with me. And I picked it because it's Appalachia. So my mom and I were house-sitting for my uncle while he was away on a work trip. No pets or anything, but his house is pretty big and kind of isolated in the woods. Woods on one side, a wheat field on the other. One night, we were in the basement watching a movie, and the setup down there matters.

• 26:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The wall across from the TV is basically all windows with French doors that go out to the back patio and pool. Since my uncle wasn't home, none of the outside lights were on, and it was pitch black out there. Like, you could not see anything. My mom and I were sitting on this L-shaped couch with our backs to the windows, and at some point, I hear that very specific doink sound, like when someone taps on glass doors. Just one knock. I sat up. I looked over the back of the couch. Nothing, just total darkness. I figured maybe I imagined it, and I went back to watching my movie. And my mom didn't react, so I guess maybe I was hearing things. But then, it happened again. This time, I look back, and I see my dad standing outside.

• 27:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not like, oh, it's someone who kind of looks like my dad. No, it was my dad.

• 27:46Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 27:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He had on his work hat and this old gray Broncos crew neck that he used to wear all the time. It was one with a little horse and the orange mane. He was looking down at his phone and a light from the screen was lighting up his face and chest. I could only see him from about mid torso up and he wasn't moving, just standing there kind of looking at his phone. I turned to my mom confused and I said something like, Dad's here. Mind you, it's 1:30 in the morning. She looks back and sees nothing, but I can still see him as clear as day.

• 28:19Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that's so creepy.

• 28:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She tells me my dad's home asleep and has work in the morning. So I look back at the TV and I look back again and he's still there in that same position, not moving, not looking up, just standing there looking at his phone. And at this point, I'm really just confused. I'm not scared because I tell her again, he's outside and probably wants to be let in and we should let him in. I don't remember what she said, but I eventually just turned around and pretended I didn't see anything. I don't remember falling asleep, but somehow I did. The next morning, I called my dad and asked if he came over the night before and he said, no. But then I told him what I saw and he said he believed that I did in fact see something, but most definitely was not him. I told my uncle too, and I asked him to check his cameras,

• 29:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  but he never found anything.

• 29:06Corinne Vien?

  That's so creepy that like actively they have their mom there who cannot see it, but they're seeing it. You have all of the proof that no one else.

• 29:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 29:18Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, it's like trying to lure you.

• 29:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It is also interesting because I feel like when we talk about mimics.

• 29:24Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 29:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They usually are trying to get you to come outside or open the door or they voice, like they are interacting with you. But for, it almost is like this entity knew it didn't have their dad perfectly nailed down. So like it couldn't look him in the eyes.

• 29:40Corinne Vien?

  It had to stay just far enough away.

• 29:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kind of like slightly looking down in a way because had it revealed its eyes, it would have revealed that it was not dad.

• 29:50Corinne Vien?

  Or like maybe this was the test to see how much they could get away with.

• 29:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because I too, if I saw my dad like on a knock on a window late at night, I'd be like, oh, he wants to come in. Like he maybe went to the front door and we didn't hear it and figured we were in the basement. But the fact that their mom did not see the dad?

• 30:06Corinne Vien?

  That's terrifying.

• 30:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's messed up. But I am glad that your mom was there because had your mom not been there, would you have gone and opened the door?

• 30:15Corinne Vien?

  Probably.

• 30:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we would not be reading this story.

• 30:18Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh. Well, that's a good use of our Reddit thread.

• 30:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right? I was like, how fun. No, it's not people talking about who I'm dating.

• 30:26Corinne Vien?

  Sabrina checks all of the reviews and reddits and all that. I don't.

• 30:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  People haven't gossiped about me in a long time.

• 30:33Corinne Vien?

  That's, that's great.

• 30:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It feels good. I'm boring enough now.

• 30:37Corinne Vien?

  Do you share less, maybe? And that's why?

• 30:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, because there's no, no drama. I'm not dating anyone. I'm single and I just sit in my home.

• 30:46Corinne Vien?

  Floating through life.

• 30:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Watch Bravo.

• 30:48Corinne Vien?

  The drama is Bravo.

• 30:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The drama is Bravo.

• 30:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Now it's me looking on Reddit about other people's drama.

• 30:57Corinne Vien?

  It's only okay if it's about other people.

• 30:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm like, what happened to Taylor from Southern Charm? Why isn't she on the season now?

• 31:02Corinne Vien?

  It's all going over my head.

• 31:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What about Catherine? Frank?

• 31:05Corinne Vien?

  Who are these people?

• 31:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or Thomas? Why did I say Frank?

• 31:08Corinne Vien?

  Maybe there should be a Frank.

• 31:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There probably is a Frank. In somewhere in Charleston, there's a Frank.

• 31:14Corinne Vien?

  Glad you read that because my next story is called, My Parents Were Mimicked and My Camping Trip With A SW. Flush pedestrian.

• 31:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not a sex worker.

• 31:24Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yes. No, sorry.

• 31:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Some people are like, what's an SW? I don't understand what that means. It is the way that we like to call it so that we don't have to say the whole name because it is not.

• 31:34Corinne Vien?

  Because you're not supposed to.

• 31:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Frowned upon to speak its name. And it is said that if you say the name, they know. And they might show up.

• 31:43Corinne Vien?

  So just look up flush pedestrian and it will tell you what we're referencing.

• 31:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 31:48Corinne Vien?

  That starts with S W.

• 31:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 31:50Corinne Vien?

  Okay. Hello gorgeous ghostesses. I am Liv. You can use my name. I've been listening to your podcast for a few months and I just finished listening to a haunted Appalachia episode.

• 32:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Our favorite.

• 32:02Corinne Vien?

  It reminded me of the time that I had a potential encounter with an SW. Or whatever the Pacific Northwest version of this is because I'm not in Appalachia. But I thought, oh, I need to send this story to them. So I combed through my emails because I'd already sent a story to you guys, only to find that apparently I had not, even though I vividly remember writing and sending this story to you guys. But this is just one of the many weird. Weird things to add to the list of entities possibly messing with me.

• 32:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you're not the only person to have experienced that.

• 32:32Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 32:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We've even had encounters where we like swear we read an email and then can't find it.

• 32:36Corinne Vien?

  I always think of that one where I was like, I can't find this one. I responded to it.

• 32:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm.

• 32:40Corinne Vien?

  I could tell you every detail of it. And then it hit our inbox like a year or two later. And I was like, did you send this before? And they're like, no, I've never sent this.

• 32:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's wild.

• 32:48Corinne Vien?

  That's creepy because I read this and emailed you back.

• 32:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's so weird.

• 32:53Corinne Vien?

  A couple of years ago.

• 32:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That gives me the heebie jeebies.

• 32:55Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I had that was.

• 32:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What the heck is time?

• 32:57Corinne Vien?

  The matrix, I think that I.

• 32:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like a Mandela effect.

• 33:00Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Okay. For starters, I've always felt and more scarily, seeing things. I honest to God, thought for a period of time that maybe I was experiencing schizophrenia when I was in my early teens. And I'm not really comfortable or in tune with my ability. My house growing up was haunted and unfortunately, many people have passed away on the property, even while living there. And I have what I like to call a friendly neighborhood entity that has clung to me, who's sometimes not very friendly.

• 33:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, but it's not a neighborhood friendly entity.

• 33:32Corinne Vien?

  Manifesting, just manifesting.

• 33:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Trying.

• 33:35Corinne Vien?

  Pretend like they're great and maybe they'll be great.

• 33:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Gaslight yourself.

• 33:38Corinne Vien?

  Yes. Okay, but here's the very first story that I attempted to send you, and it's about mimics. Growing up in a haunted house makes you very aware of the other side and how it interacts with our dimension. My family's always been very accepting and aware of the other side. And I do think that that created a kind of safe space for spirits and entities to pass through and maybe coexist in a way.

• 34:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like an animal shelter for ghosts.

• 34:02Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, they they thought that they were just being nice and really they're like opening up their house.

• 34:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's like a sign on the other side that says like, all ghosts, welcome here.

• 34:11Corinne Vien?

  I have experienced mimics in my house before in the form of seeing someone in the corner of my eye who wasn't there or clearly hearing someone talk about me. But none of the times have rattled me the way this last experience did. To set the scene, my home is about 10 miles outside of city limits. So it's easy to get to, but not worth going out of your way for. When you walk through the front door of my childhood home, you walk into a living room. And on the other side of the living room, straight ahead, is a sliding glass door to the patio and backyard. To the left are all of the bedrooms, to the right, the kitchen. The couch faces away from the front door and bedrooms angled so that it's facing the patio. And yes, this is important, I swear. So my dad, who was also never around much because he was a first responder.

• 34:54Corinne Vien?

  So he frequently worked four to five days on and then had two or three days off. At this time, I moved out of the house, but I was living only 10 minutes away. My mom and dad had also started their divorce. So my dad really was not spending time at this house at this time. Everyone was gone this weekend, and so I was asked to go house and pet sit. And I'm thinking, hell yeah, free food all weekend. And I get to chill in an empty house with my childhood pets. Yes, that's what you think. Little did I know that 21 year old me would soon be leaving on one of the nights with fearful tears in my eyes. Yikes. It was late afternoon when this occurred. The sun had not set yet, but it was starting to, probably about 20 minutes until it would. I had brought my Xbox over.

• 35:38Corinne Vien?

  I was playing Minecraft in my childhood bedroom, cuddling my family dog. And then the temperature dropped. Not drastically, but it was summer, so generally the house stayed pretty temperate. I got this strange wave of overwhelming dread. And at the same time, my dog's ears perked and she started whining. I do not have anxiety. I do not have depression and my dog is 120 pounds on a pit bull. So kind of really weird for both of us to feel so off. I get off the bed. I start making the rounds around the house. I'm checking the bedrooms and my dog stayed in my room still whining. And now I see, okay, all the bedrooms are clear. So I make my way to the living room and then I see it. The mimic, it's standing on the patio.

• 36:21Corinne Vien?

  It looks like my dad, but my dad was 55 at the time. And this thing looks exactly like my dad did when he was 30. Back turned away from me, hands on his hips like a proud man admiring his freshly mowed lawn. Now I dealt with plenty of spirits by this time. And I was also busy with my Minecraft game, building a super cool base. So I just waved it off and said, okay, well, if you're going to mimic someone, do better and actually be someone who's lived here recently.

• 36:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To be that nonchalant and laissez faire about a fricking mimic in your backyard.

• 36:51Corinne Vien?

  So then I go back to playing Minecraft. Not even five minutes later, my dog perks up again. He lets out this big guard dog level bark, hackles raised and everything. And at this point, I'm getting annoyed because now I have to go do another surveillance check. But this time I go straight to the living room there on the couch. And my mom's usual spot is my mom.

• 37:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 37:14Corinne Vien?

  Except my mom wasn't supposed to be home for another two days and she had not pulled into the driveway. So not only had I accidentally challenged the mimic, but I invited it in.

• 37:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And now it's like switching forms.

• 37:27Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I just, I booked it back into the room. I shut my bedroom door and I'm not religious, but I did say to whatever higher power is listening, please protect me, protect my dog, protect this house. This entity is not welcome. It needs to leave. It is not welcome here now and never will be in the future. The whole time this is happening, my dog stays in the room, hackles up on alert until I finish my protection. Then she calmed down and fell asleep. Needless to say, I did not get any sleep that night and I couldn't even sleep when I went back to my apartment.

• 37:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my God.

• 37:58Corinne Vien?

  Now we've had plenty of stories since in that house, including lights being interactive with, doors opening, objects moving, shadows in the corner of your eyes, shadow people, Ouija board experiences, physical harm, possession, shared reoccurring nightmares and so much more. From not just myself, but my sisters, my mom, my nephew. So I can send those if you want to know.

• 38:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 38:22Corinne Vien?

  Yes. But for my next story, I'm going to share about a camping trip that I had when a windy boy or a flush pedestrian, or whatever the closest thing that could be here in the Pacific Northwest had an encounter with me.

• 38:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, well, first I'm going to put a spin that's not as scary on the first story.

• 38:39Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 38:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it's gonna be completely contradicted by the fact that trust your pets and like clearly the dog was aggravated and like scared. So I don't think what I'm about to say is real, but I'm gonna just put it out there to like make it less scary, especially the example of the dad looking 30 years younger. I'm like, is this a real moment that happened 30 years ago where dad was out on the porch, like, you know, hands on hips, like admiring his work and mom was inside on the couch watching TV. And it was just like a weird flip.

• 39:06Corinne Vien?

  Glitch in time.

• 39:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. But then again, contradicted by the fact that the dog was so scared.

• 39:12Corinne Vien?

  Familiar with both of those people. Okay, back to the camping.

• 39:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 39:17Corinne Vien?

  My boyfriend, now ex, had just gotten a new car and the seats in the back folded down. So obviously we made some sandwiches. We were making out, uh, sorry, they were not making out.

• 39:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I thought you were gonna say we're not making sandwiches. Cause making out makes sense. You put all the seats down.

• 39:36Corinne Vien?

  Actually, they were just making sandwiches, making the back of the car up and driving into the woods to camp for the night.

• 39:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where they were gonna go make out.

• 39:45Corinne Vien?

  Nice pickle onion breath in the backseat of that new car. So we went to the campsite that we'd both been going to for years. So we were very, very familiar with this campsite. It's about a one and a half hour drive from our house. There's no service and the sites are walk-in. So you basically park in the parking lot, walk however long until you're at the campsite and then it's on a first come, first served basis.

• 40:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 40:09Corinne Vien?

  And we have plenty of walking and hiking trails and it's on a lake. So it's really nice.

• 40:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sounds peaceful.

• 40:15Corinne Vien?

  It does.

• 40:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  If you're into this type of thing.

• 40:17Corinne Vien?

  And you already have your sandwiches packed. Like, oh, great.

• 40:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you're ready to make out.

• 40:21Corinne Vien?

  Ready to make out in the car if it gets too scary outside.

• 40:25Corinne Vien?

  We went in late July on a Sunday night, so it was warm and typically pretty busy because it was summer. Because the sites are stretched out along the shore, there are three different parking lots that are all connected by a one car road that ends at the last lot. But we were just car camping, so we weren't worried about finding a campsite unless we wanted to make a responsible fire that night. Okay, so they were gonna stay in the car.

• 40:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They were.

• 40:48Corinne Vien?

  Cause the seats go back, so.

• 40:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Make out in the car.

• 40:51Corinne Vien?

  To make out, eat your sandwiches and sleep.

• 40:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Corinne really wants you to make out.

• 40:55Corinne Vien?

  It's such a trope, right?

• 40:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss.

• 40:58Corinne Vien?

  Of the car. Go to the lookout point, something scary might happen.

• 41:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And all of a sudden, a bloody hand hits your side of the road.

• 41:06Corinne Vien?

  The first lot was completely full, the second lot also completely full. And we're starting to worry for a little bit, but by the time it got to the third and final lot, we see that it is actually completely empty, except for one truck.

• 41:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's unsettling.

• 41:22Corinne Vien?

  So we parked the car, we set up some stuff and we're doing this when we notice that there's a deer now slowly circling the parking lot. Okay, so we don't pay too much mind to this. The parking lot's on top of a very steep hill and there's about a thirty foot elevation from where the trails and the sites are. And after we're done with the initial setup, we decide to walk along some of the trails and walk down the hill. There's a campsite that has been perfectly set up, like straight out of an outdoorsman magazine, with a paddleboard leaning against a table, hiking boots on the bench, the whole shebang. But there's no person attending it. It took us about an hour to circle back and throughout this walk, we kept noticing that deer, the same one we'd seen earlier.

• 42:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ah.

• 42:03Corinne Vien?

  And this deer is super noticeable now because of how many scars it has.

• 42:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, which is such a common thing with flesh pedestrians.

• 42:13Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, the weird markings. Sometimes this thing would get as close as five feet to us. And we both had grown up hiking and hunting and fishing, et cetera. We'd never seen an animal this scarred before, let alone a friendly deer that was this beat up and now following us, but we kept choosing to ignore it. After the hike, we're walking back up the hill towards the car and we pass the one other guy in the area coming down from his truck and he strikes up conversation as we're walking. Now, keep in mind, he's walking down with nothing in his hands and his truck is parked up at the top of the super steep hill. And after striking up conversation, he turns back around and starts following us back up the hill. My boyfriend registered how strange that was. And I did not, as you will soon find out.

• 42:58Corinne Vien?

  And asks the guy, oh, did you forget something? And the guy responds by saying how he forgot a bundle of firewood. The guy proceeds to start asking us how long we're gonna be there for. Have we set up our camp yet? Are we familiar with the area?

• 43:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 43:12Corinne Vien?

  Is anyone else coming and joining us?

• 43:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stranger danger.

• 43:15Corinne Vien?

  So my dumb ass is now answering all of his questions. I think he's just being friendly. But we also find out that he has been planning to be here for three nights. And his friends are showing up soon. At this time, the deer is nowhere to be seen. The guy leaves without grabbing any firewood. We do not see him the rest of the time. And after he left, the deer appeared again in the middle of the parking lot. Just watching us. Night falls and we made our small fire next to our car. And the guy's friends never show up. Eventually, the deer disappears.

• 43:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also, the fact that the two other parking lots were jam packed and not a, not a single other car comes to the third parking lot.

• 43:56Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 43:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's also weird energy.

• 43:59Corinne Vien?

  So this is when the story takes a turn. At once, the forest goes mute and immediately my boyfriend and I are on alert. It was getting very dark and we both gave each other the, oh, we definitely should not be out here any longer look. So we start putting the fire out, organizing our things for an easy departure in the morning. And then we hear a woman screaming bloody murder for help. The scream sounds like it's coming from very, very far away.

• 44:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Shitballs.

• 44:25Corinne Vien?

  And as we hear this, we immediately stop organizing. We start dumping water on the fire. We want to be quick, we want to be efficient. So we grab our essentials, we hop in the car and as fast as possible, we lock the doors.

• 44:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank goodness you were by your car. Like, thank goodness you chose to stay in your car rather than go set up camp in the woods.

• 44:41Corinne Vien?

  Camping like actually in the car. And that night we were tormented. The car had three hundred and sixty degree cameras with night mode. And all night, something was rubbing against the car.

• 44:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 44:53Corinne Vien?

  Big enough to shake the car. We're thinking, okay, this has to be a mountain lion or a small bear, maybe. But every time we turned on the cameras, we would see nothing. We felt something smaller stepping on top of the car. But again, we would see nothing.

• 45:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We'd get turn that car on and drive away.

• 45:11Corinne Vien?

  Drive away. We would constantly hear screams, both human and animal throughout the night. Close, sometimes far. And we would hear something large circling the car, but again, we would see nothing. We would trade off every thirty to sixty minutes on who could sleep. And then who would watch with the gun that we had, not because one wanted to sleep, but because the other couldn't sleep and would rather be awake.

• 45:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 45:35Corinne Vien?

  Anytime we fell asleep, we would have horrible dreams about deformed animals, red eyes. And at some point, my boyfriend, while on watch, had seen red eyes looking in our direction from the tree line.

• 45:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Nope.

• 45:48Corinne Vien?

  This went on all night. I'm talking nine P M. To five A M. We considered leaving after an hour, but we had so many things still left outside of our car, like nice camping chairs, our cooler. And we thought, okay, well, if this is an animal, it will go, it will get bored eventually and start rummaging through the other campsites.

• 46:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It targeted you.

• 46:09Corinne Vien?

  But it never left us.

• 46:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Nope, it wanted you.

• 46:12Corinne Vien?

  This one occupied car in an isolated parking lot. Once the sun rose and it was light enough for us to confidently investigate, we went outside to find that many different animal tracks from elk, deer, mountain lion, all around, and human feet.

• 46:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ah, and the camera never picked anything up.

• 46:33Corinne Vien?

  Uh uh.

• 46:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bare human feet, like not wearing shoes, I bet.

• 46:38Corinne Vien?

  It said the human feet were hard to make out, but it also tracks because it kind of looked like maybe someone had a peg leg, if that makes sense. It was like circular imprints in the rock.

• 46:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It wasn't a peg leg. It was half human, half like deer.

• 46:54Corinne Vien?

  Into all these different animals to try to get you outside. All of the prints didn't seem to have a starting point or an entry point. They just would appear out of nowhere and then wander back into the woods. And none of our supplies outside had been disturbed, even our cooler.

• 47:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But you had been disturbed severely and now we are severely disturbed.

• 47:14Corinne Vien?

  So creepy. After trying to figure out what was going on, we still felt this overwhelming feeling of being watched. So we packed up at 6 a.m. We went to McDonald's and we have not been back since. That was almost four years ago now, and I had been going to those campsites multiple times a year since I was a kid.

• 47:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What is this campsite? I want to like, I want to look it up.

• 47:34Corinne Vien?

  Right? It's in the Pacific Northwest somewhere.

• 47:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which already is very haunted, but like, I want to know this specific one and look on like Reddit and different places and see what people have to ask.

• 47:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Hope you have a good night. Love y'all. Live.

• 47:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank goodness we don't record at night anymore because this is one of those stories that had we.

• 47:52Corinne Vien?

  That would keep us up.

• 47:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And because the last time we recorded at night was when we recorded that Monsters episode for Halloween out in your backyard.

• 48:00Corinne Vien?

  Camping out. Yeah.

• 48:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I remember driving home that night. I like felt so unsettled.

• 48:05Corinne Vien?

  I feel like recording that was also creepy because there's so much woods behind my house. And also it wasn't an easy setup. So like, once we finished recording, we were like taking turns, almost being outside alone. Cause we were like grabbing all the extension cords and walking things back inside and then it was creepy.

• 48:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was creepy.

• 48:23Corinne Vien?

  Remember I went up, Brian, and was like, you need to come help us.

• 48:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Even just a walk from your front door to my car.

• 48:28Corinne Vien?

  I think I watched you get in your car.

• 48:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was scared.

• 48:31Corinne Vien?

  Like watched until you were like in your car locked and, and moving.

• 48:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So good luck to all of you who are listening at night. Okay. I have one to end the episode on. And it is called Camping Contortionist from our listener Gary up in Ontario, Canada.

• 48:46Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 48:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Gary also.

• 48:49Corinne Vien?

  Ghost of a circus lady.

• 48:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is like so professional. Gary included a word count, 677 words. I wish it was 666, Gary. Edit.

• 48:58Corinne Vien?

  Eliminate.

• 48:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Take a red pen to this.

• 49:00Corinne Vien?

  Instead of from Gary, it's just Gary.

• 49:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. I had always loved the idea of sleeping beneath the stars and simply living with the land, just as my distant relatives, the Neanderthals, had so often done in the past. For some reason, I remember that as like, the Netherlands.

• 49:19Corinne Vien?

  In the Netherlands, the Neanderthals.

• 49:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Unfortunately, though, my desire to go camping was forever soured at a very young age. So, fresh air, the exercise, the ability to go back to nature was always very appealing to me until crazy shit happened. Some friends and I had decided to go to a nearby nature preserve and campground so we could just pitch some tents, enjoy a couple of evenings together, gather around a campfire and just sit and talk about our lives and where we were with everything. Sounded like a great idea, right? And up until that point, I had probably gone camping like five or six times. But what happened to me that night completely changed my opinion about any willingness to go camping in the woods at night, under the cover of darkness, ever again. Case in point, this latest camping trip that I'd gone on with my friends completely reprogrammed my brain.

• 50:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We had a great day of hiking, fishing, swimming, and we were really looking forward to spending another one of our classic nights around the campfire. We had the fire lit and all the lawn chairs were set up around it and the festivities began, cold beer, warm friendships. And the really fun part were the cool stories we told around the fire.

• 50:21Corinne Vien?

  That sounds so nice.

• 50:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Along with drinking several beers comes the voiding of these fluids in the woods. We started this episode with not wanting to pee in the woods and we're gonna end it with peeing in the woods. No shiny bathroom, no stinky outhouse, just a silent, oh natural, open air showering upon the forest floor. It was during one of these draining expeditions when my world got turned upside down. I was about halfway done when I heard the rustling of leaves just outside of my flashlight's glow and I saw movement in my peripheral vision. So I figured it might be a deer or something and I raised my flashlight towards it. And that's when I had my actual what the fuck moment.

• 51:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Standing there in the beam of my flashlight was this freaky looking creature that I did not recognize. It had glistening rubbery looking brown skin like you'd see on a frog, but it appeared human like, standing there on its hind legs roughly five feet tall. And its beady eyes were like black orbs, both the size of tennis balls. And when they blinked, they appeared to retract straight down into the deep wrinkly folds located at the top of its head.

• 51:32Corinne Vien?

  That is so gross.

• 51:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Alien like.

• 51:34Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 51:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Suddenly it bolted and I watched as it flung itself wildly from tree trunk to tree trunk. Very Edward Cullen in Twilight. And it left a slimy stringing residue on everything it touched, like a frog.

• 51:50Corinne Vien?

  What is this?

• 51:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It almost looked like an oozing dripping liquid honey. Finally, it momentarily rested near the base of a large oak tree. And it carefully twisted and contorted its entire body, then slowly squeezed itself into a seemingly tiny little knot hole, much like an octopus slithering away into a small crevice in a coral bed.

• 52:10Corinne Vien?

  I mean, it kind of sounds like it was scared of you. So I guess that's, that's like a perk.

• 52:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Good thing. Yeah.

• 52:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it's.

• 52:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It too was trying to take a, like a little wood pee.

• 52:18Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Is camping with its friends on another site.

• 52:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And if that wasn't freaky enough, as I stood there in the forest trembling, in the dead silence and stillness of that creepy night, I could clearly hear the disturbing sound of what sounded like bones crunching and cracking and muscles and ligaments tearing as it methodically folded itself into itself before pushing up against the knot hole, sucking itself deep into the heart of the tree and disappearing.

• 52:46Corinne Vien?

  What the fuck is it? I've never heard anything like this.

• 52:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right? And the very last thing.

• 52:52Corinne Vien?

  Forest spirits. This is not what I was thinking.

• 52:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The last thing I remember before it disappeared altogether was it seemingly winked at me. And then in a very bizarre and surrealistic way, waved its 12 inch long gangly spindly fingers up and down at me like some kind of agitated jellyfish as if to say goodbye. From Gary.

• 53:14Corinne Vien?

  Kind of a little bit Lorax like.

• 53:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like, like you're saying, I've never

• 53:19Corinne Vien?

  Frog Lorax.

• 53:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Heard of anything like this. It's like a combination of so many things we have heard about. Like the knot deers and the way that their bones crunch and stuff when they're contorting.

• 53:27Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 53:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then, but it's frog-like and alien-like.

• 53:30Corinne Vien?

  It has slime.

• 53:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And octopus-like.

• 53:33Corinne Vien?

  And wrinkly. And it seems like it wants to get away from you, but then it's also weaving. Well, this is doing some sort of spell to make you go away or not be able to like access its home.

• 53:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ah, it's so creepy.

• 53:45Corinne Vien?

  It's so creepy. Wait, where, do we know where this is?

• 53:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Somewhere in Canada.

• 53:49Corinne Vien?

  Well dang, Gary.

• 53:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Gary said, sometimes it's best to just stay in your tent or sit near the fire. Or Gary, sometimes it's best to just not go camping.

• 53:58Corinne Vien?

  Or have a pee buddy.

• 54:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A pee buddy.

• 54:00Corinne Vien?

  Not to add more waste to the world, but like, I feel like in this scenario, I'd be, I'd be too scared to go pee alone. And I know like fighter pilots and stuff, they have those, um, it's like a plastic bag that you pee in and then there's gel at the bottom and the gel expands, like absorb all of your pee.

• 54:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 54:17Corinne Vien?

  As you pee in it.

• 54:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I did not know about this, this about fighter pilots. Didn't know you knew much about fighter pilots.

• 54:22Corinne Vien?

  I know a couple of random facts about how they, uh, release their.

• 54:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Chronically online.

• 54:26Corinne Vien?

  Insides?

• 54:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Chronically on TikTok.

• 54:29Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I did learn that on TikTok.

• 54:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I knew it. Most weird facts.

• 54:33Corinne Vien?

  I watched a video of this guy, it was like, uh, sitting in his jet and he was like, do you want to know how we pee on really long flights?

• 54:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do.

• 54:40Corinne Vien?

  I kept watching. I did want to know.

• 54:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow. Yeah, that's, I don't know what that is. I, I don't know about a lot of this episode. It's quite scary. And again, more reason to stay home.

• 54:52Corinne Vien?

  Even camping in your car isn't safe.

• 54:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This would be a perfect episode to be sponsored by Helix mattresses. I hope it is because that's what I would like to be on.

• 54:58Corinne Vien?

  Right? Just curl up on your safe little mattress.

• 55:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I want like cute, like my idea of like a fun night with friends is like buying everyone matching pajamas. Great bottle of wine, sitting in a living room where you've like turned the couch into like a massive bed. You have like the air mattresses like piled up next to each other. Everyone can like cuddle up on it and we're watching like a girly movie.

• 55:23Corinne Vien?

  Right. Yeah. I honestly think I'd even be scared sleeping in my sunroom, just with like all the windows.

• 55:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 55:29Corinne Vien?

  I need to be inside.

• 55:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. I was gonna say, give me a jail cell over a camping tent.

• 55:35Corinne Vien?

  I don't know, I'm pretty scared of that.

• 55:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, uh, I, did I send this to you? In Boston, there's this beautiful home that Tom Brady used to live in.

• 55:45Corinne Vien?

  Oh, over in Commonwealth?

• 55:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And the penthouse was just listed for like seven million dollars or something like that. The outside of this building is the most stunning, like historic, intricate, detailed stonemasonry.

• 55:56Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 55:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The inside should be illegal of what they did.

• 56:00Corinne Vien?

  What? I didn't see this.

• 56:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It looks, the bathroom, literally the toilet is metal. I'm like, this looks like a jail cell.

• 56:07Corinne Vien?

  Ew. We've been up there for a really long time, so I wonder if he did it or if the previous, or like the most recent owners did it.

• 56:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, and then it's also the penthouse, so I don't know if he lived in that one. I think, cause there's like multiple units.

• 56:19Corinne Vien?

  Cause I don't think he's been there for like a decade.

• 56:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I will, we'll put it in the show nights for people. No, yeah, he hasn't lived there for a while.

• 56:25Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 56:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, but I'll show it to you. Let's see. It was on, it's a little gone wild. Literally a metal toilet.

• 56:30Corinne Vien?

  Ew.

• 56:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it's just so modern and gross.

• 56:34Corinne Vien?

  How could they do this?

• 56:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stainless steel, like it's just, and that's how, that's the outside. Devastating. Devastating.

• 56:42Corinne Vien?

  Well, if it makes you feel better, most of the other listings for properties right there do look old and New England and historic. And to the point where sometimes you're like, man, you could have afforded to update something. New carpet, maybe?

• 56:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 56:59Corinne Vien?

  Different drapes?

• 56:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But that's criminal.

• 57:01Corinne Vien?

  That's bad.

• 57:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't ever comment on things, like I'm a lurker, but I commented on that and said like, this is devastating, bring back the character. Also, the other day I was scrolling TikTok and I saw you had commented. I was like, Corinne's a commenter?

• 57:14Corinne Vien?

  Oh, sometimes I do. Every once in a while. Once in a blue moon, what did I comment on?

• 57:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I can't remember, but I, I was just like so.

• 57:20Corinne Vien?

  Was it on Tik, it was on TikTok?

• 57:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was on TikTok.

• 57:22Corinne Vien?

  I feel like I usually comment on the parenting stuff where they're like, what's this?

• 57:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't think it was a parenting one.

• 57:26Corinne Vien?

  Or if it's related to Vermont.

• 57:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wasn't related to Vermont.

• 57:29Corinne Vien?

  Then what did I say?

• 57:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know, but my flabbers were gasted.

• 57:32Corinne Vien?

  Now I'm self-conscious, cause I'm like, if it doesn't have to do with New England.

• 57:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It wasn't weird enough that I like, screenshotted it and was like, ew, Corinne has a hot take. I think it was just like commentary. Like an in agreement of what they had said or something like that. Props to all of you who comment, because I don't have the guts.

• 57:48Corinne Vien?

  How do I find what my comments were?

• 57:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 57:50Corinne Vien?

  Oh, comment history. Here we go.

• 57:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 57:53Corinne Vien?

  There's a song from the Beach Boys. I said it's giving 2008 Hollister.

• 57:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, wasn't that? Anyway, that's for us to figure out later.

• 58:00Corinne Vien?

  Was it Pizza Hut? When I was like, do you remember dessert pizza? Nobody ever knows what I'm talking about. It was some sort of like strawberry glaze drizzled over. It was so incredible.

• 58:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, now I want to look at your comment history.

• 58:10Corinne Vien?

  Did anyone respond to that one?

• 58:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 58:13Corinne Vien?

  No. No one remembers dessert pizza.

• 58:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, maybe this is our request. Do you remember dessert pizza? Because Karina needs to know.

• 58:23Corinne Vien?

  It's like, what did I say about my butthole?

• 58:28Corinne Vien?

  It was a post that said, what's your weird pregnancy symptoms no one talks about? I said, the sudden feeling of my butthole being stabbed out of nowhere. Okay, that's better like in context.

• 58:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 58:35Corinne Vien?

  I commented about the psoriasis I had in my armpits on someone's face.

• 58:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All right. Well, thank you, everyone, for joining us. This episode reminded us

• 58:45Corinne Vien?

  To check our Reddit threads and see if your friends comment on videos that you see.

• 58:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And stay out of the woods.

• 58:51Corinne Vien?

  Shout out to Jimmy Ryan, who edits and produces our podcast. Thank you to you.

• 58:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep. Join us on Patreon. You know, you know the spiel.

• 59:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anyway, we love you.

• 59:02Corinne Vien?

  And we will see you on the other side.