Kylie on What No One Tells You About Giving Birth, Caitlin Clark’s FAFO Energy & Better Dancer: Travis or Jason? | Ep. 81

Kylie’s back for a very special episode of Not Gonna Lie brought to you by DoorDash! She’s joined by her good friend and hilarious content creator: Allison Kuch for a labor & delivery and postpartum deep dive (19:01)! Kylie and Allison talk all about what it’s like to be gaslit while your water is breaking (24:30), the toughest parts of breastfeeding (34:44), and getting used to your body postpartum (48:10). But before Allie joins the show, Kylie’s proud that Malala made it to her first-ever Eagles game (1:43), answers how Finn is liking being home alone while her sisters are at school (5:58), and settles the “debate” who is the better dancer: Jason or Travis (9:23)? Plus she watches Doomscrolls about how you should NEVER ask your wife to get your tubes tied (12:18), and applauds Caitlin Clark for shutting down reporters for stirring drama at the FIBA World Cup (14:27). Then Kylie sits down with Allison Kuch! Kylie does a deep dive into pregnancy with Allie talking about what it was like to have a VBAC and see your placenta, epidurals, and the anxiety that occurs with breastfeeding postpartum. After that, Kylie and Allie talk about the biggest differences when you go from one to two kids (31:11). Then, Kylie does a very special Allison Kuch edition of Doomscroll of the Week about her newest form of birth control (toe shoes) and how to be kinder to your body postpartum. Lastly, Kylie congratulates Allie on joining the Netflix family with her new advice show “Couldn’t Agree Less with Allison & Isaac”. You can find even more clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with Allie on our YouTube channel on More Sh*t Monday. . Purchase NGL Merch: https://www.nglkylie.com Support the show: DoorDash: When life gets crazy, DoorDash helps bring some order to it. Order Now. https://www.doordash.com/ NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV: Get NFL Sunday Ticket for 8 payments of $30/mo for new users. New users pay two hundred and forty dollars or eight non-cancelable payments of thirty dollars a month (first charged at purchase). Availability varies. With NFL Sunday Ticket for out-of-market games and YouTube TV for local and national games. YouTube TV required. Terms, restrictions, and embargoes apply. Commercial use excluded. No refunds. Pull Ups: Don't miss your chance to save 20% on Pull-Ups during Prime Big Deal Days on Amazon. Oura Ring: Discover how Oura can help you better understand your health. https://ouraring.com/store/rings/oura-ring-5 BJs Wholesale Club: Not a BJ’s Wholesale Club member yet? Join today with a special offer for a one-year Club membership at just $10!!! For an entire year yes, you heard that right!– you can learn more and discover what BJ’s is all about at https://www.bjs.com/kyliekelce/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:47Kylie Kelce?

  My brain was like, when I get to that six, eight week period where you go back and they check you and they're like, hey, you're cleared. I'm like, yeah, medically. Don't look at me. Meanwhile, my husband's like, that ass. I'm like, get, go wipe the other asses. Get away from me. Get away from me.

• 1:05Speaker 03

  My ass isn't one you need to worry about. Thank you.

• 1:08Kylie Kelce?

  Finn is, it's just because she's not even 18 months old and wearing 3T clothing.

• 1:14Speaker 03

  You've never seen your placentas?

• 1:15Kylie Kelce?

  I've never seen them. I think that's better. I don't, I don't have a peaceful relationship with placentas. Next time we have a clip of pitting women against each other, we're going to get the audio of Caitlin Clark and we're going to put it in there and we're going to go.

• 1:28Speaker 03

  Don't try to do that.

• 1:29Kylie Kelce?

  Not gonna lie, this morning, the dogs ran in to greet me. And they came with Bennett. And I said, hmm, why are they all wet? Benny said, the toilet.

• 1:44Kylie Kelce?

  Let's get this podcast started.

• 1:50Kylie Kelce?

  Welcome back to a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original brought to you by DoorDash. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, Irish wolfhound and German shepherd dog mom to Patty and Freddie because they're my babies. Sometimes my kids tell me, I know you like the dogs better than you like me.

• 2:10Kylie Kelce?

  And I say, no, I don't. But consider, they don't talk back. Yes, I'm aware Jason is narrating the Epcot Candlelight Processional in December because I'm hype about it. I love Disney. I just love them. And I think it's safe to officially say that we've convinced Malala to be an Eagles fan. That's right. Look at her. She said, go Birds, my girl. Ah, gosh, I love her. I may or may not have been told by a little birdie that they were impressed by the electricity of the stadium, the electric vibes of the stadium. Let me get a, let me get a direct quote here. So much energy in the crowd.

• 2:52Kylie Kelce?

  I, I'm so proud of her that she made it to her first NFL game. Because she, her and I have discussed before, she loves football, but the European kind, you know?

• 3:11Kylie Kelce?

  She has not yet been to an NFL game, but now she has. And she picked a good one. Eagles home opener. So to summarize, this Sunday, this past Sunday, as Malala said, go Birds. Yep. Okay. Coming up on today's episode, A Loaded Doom Squirrel, where I'm going to talk about post-babies birth control. I'm also going to get to some Ask Me Some Things questions from The Real Ones about how Finn is adjusting to her sister's starting school. Who's the better dancer, Jason or Travis? And how, is that even a question? And how early is too early to commit to Halloween costumes? After that, I'm going to be joined by a hilarious friend of mine and a friend of the show.

• 3:55Kylie Kelce?

  She's here to talk about something The Real Ones wanted a deep dive on, postpartum and the transition from one to multiple kids. It's Alison Kooch. But before we get to any of that, let's start things off with the rage bait of the week. Wow, okay, right into it, huh? Sometimes people can't help but post fucked up shit that Queen Emma knows is going to set me off. So let's see what it is. Queen Emma, what rage bait do you have for me this week? Oh, oh. This, this old thing? Got it. It's a TikTok and the text on screen says, everyone's wives look like supermodels, except one. Okay?

• 4:39Kylie Kelce?

  It's lots of athletes with their spouses. And they look stunning. And everyone is dressed to the nines. And then they end with me. Specifically, me in a t-shirt and an athletic skirt tossing Jell-O shots. First of all, goodness gracious. The caption, oh, I didn't even notice the caption. The caption says, quote, Jason Kelsey's wife is really down to earth. Okay. First of all, Queen Emma would like to note

• 5:20Kylie Kelce?

  that we would typically ignore this, but it has, does it really? Does it really? It has 11 million views. That's so dumb. I don't know if it's intended to insult or intended to compliment, but either way, I think the point was missed just on the simple fact that it's unclear. Also, why are we trying to compare? Cut that out. First of all, you can't find a clip of me on a red carpet. Because you know where I'm not going to end up? On a red carpet, okay? I don't get fancy.

• 6:02Kylie Kelce?

  If I do get fancy, I have to sprint around a lake because the Uber driver dropped us off at the wrong door. And if I don't get in soon, I'm going to miss NFL honors and my husband being one of the presenters. Okay? So no, you're not going to catch me on a red carpet because I'm late. This is a weird TikTok. It's weird and I don't like it. Cut that out. Also, can you please stop tagging me in it? You can stop tagging the show too. We've, we've seen it. That's it for Rage Bait of the Week. Now that we took care of that, let's channel some of this rage into some fresh Ask Me Some Things questions from The Real Ones because Ask Me Anything needed boundaries.

• 6:45Kylie Kelce?

  Seriously, you guys are off the rails. Ask Me Some Things is brought to you this week by Pull-Ups. And of course, we're going to do this, huh? Rapid fire, are we? Yes. Let's try. First question, how does Finn enjoy being an only child while the older girls are in school? Bored or reveling? Okay. Finn is enjoying being the only child, but I do think she's sad now that Benny is back in school because her and Benny recently have been thick as thieves. I mean, nonny, nonny, nonny is what I say to them. They, Finn will go to the snack drawer and take out endless, endless snacks.

• 7:29Kylie Kelce?

  And Benny will open them for her. And then they will both feed them to the dogs. It's going great. So Finn just needs to find another accomplice. That's all. Is it Freddie? Is it Patty? Stay tuned. Next from Real One, Hallie, help settle a debate. How early is too early to start planning Halloween costumes? Honestly? I feel like I'm behind the eight ball already, but I am every year. I order them when they go on sale, which to me, if the Halloween costumes are on sale, it's too late. So I would say, beginning of September is probably a great time to start planning because if you're not going to just order a Halloween costume

• 8:12Kylie Kelce?

  that's already fixed for you, like everything comes together, then you might need to hit up Etsy or other things that might take a little bit longer to ship. I think end of, I think beginning of September is a great time to start planning. You should probably have everything ordered by, by the end of September. Queen Emma wants to know if the girls have any ideas for costumes? And they have a lot of ideas for costumes, Queen Emma. We're trying to filter through which ones are realistic. This might be the year where there is not a group theme because everyone has an opinion now, including Finny. Next from Hunter Albright, what advice do you have for husbands whose wives are pregnant? Oof, have grace.

• 8:57Kylie Kelce?

  Have grace for your wife. She is building a human being. It is not simple. She's literally creating organs. You are in the middle of a conversation. She's building a brain. You know what I mean? I just think that like, if she wants Taco Bell at 10:00 PM, you guessed it, you're asked to be getting Taco Bell at 10:00 PM. And I'm not even a Taco Bell person, okay? I think that we, we give, get, give her what she wants. And also,

• 9:31Kylie Kelce?

  see the light at the end of the tunnel. She's, she's going to have that little muffin. You're going to love it so much. But just, you, you got about nine months of nonsense that nobody knows what could happen, including your wife, at any given moment. So just have some grace, okay? I always say, I'm really lucky that my husband stayed married to me after being pregnant for a time. I'm not nice as a pregnant lady. I'm actually quite grouchy. And from Real One, Miriam, sure. Who's the better dancer, Travis or Jason? Guys.

• 10:17Kylie Kelce?

  The show is called Not Gonna Lie. Queen Emma would like to remind me of that, but it turns out I don't need that reminder. I'm going to tell you right now, if we're talking about range, it's Travis. If we're talking about enthusiasm, it's Jason. I feel like I just nailed that question. Rapid fire, we're still moving. Okay. And last question from Real One, Football Girlie Pop, amazing handle name. Tips for overnight potty training. We are struggling. I don't know if this is right or wrong, but I think, I think, first of all, obvious answer. Such an obvious answer. Actually, I'm going to bury the lead. I'm not going to

• 10:59Kylie Kelce?

  give you the obvious answer first. I'm going to give you some tips. Try your very best to not have them drinking lots of water right before bedtime. That's like, we can't set them up for failure. Second, I have them go to the potty again, right before they go to sleep. Really, like we've brushed teeth, we've laid down, we've read a book, we've told stories, we've talked about our day, and then we get back up, we use the potty, and then we get back in our beds, then they get back scratches, and then I leave the room. Okay. Number three, the most obvious,

• 11:37Kylie Kelce?

  pull-ups training pants. I know. This is why they're a sponsor, because we love them in our house. They have the new learning layer, and it almost, it, it makes it even better than they were before, which I didn't think was possible. Okay. It gives your kids a sense of independence. It's a graduation from a diaper. Obviously, you're not going to wear a diaper overnight. Now you get to wear these awesome pull-ups. First of all, great designs. That helps. Everybody knows that helps. But then this new learning layer lets them feel wet, which, when you're asleep, and you think to yourself, I'll just tinkle, and then you feel wet, it's uncomfortable.

• 12:20Kylie Kelce?

  And that helps them wake their brains up to realize that they now need to wake up and go to the bathroom to pee, instead of sleeping and doing it. Now, if you went cold turkey, you're elite. I've used pull-ups for all of our kids, and I don't plan on stopping. Finn is in line next. It is a huge accomplishment in our house when people wake up with a dry pull-up. That is very exciting. We celebrate big time, and it is something that they proudly announce. That's it for Ask Me Some Things, brought to you by Pull-Ups. My guest, Ally Cooch, is coming up soon, but first, we got to get to Doom Scroll of the Week, brought to you by DoorDash. First up on Doom Scroll, I'm going to let this man speak for himself when it comes to post-baby's

• 13:05Kylie Kelce?

  birth control plans, because he gets it. Queen Emma?

• 13:08Speaker 04

  I told everyone on the internet, I'm getting a vasectomy, and pretty much all the guys were like, you could get your wife's tubes tied instead, or if she ends up getting a C-section, they could just do it while they're in there. And I feel like those guys don't have a wife, because I, I just can't imagine that conversation after four children, carried in her pukku, four births.

• 13:37Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. Immediately, yes. Green flag. First of all, if your wife just made you four human beings, you don't ask her for a goddamn motherfucking thing. You don't ask her for not a single thing. Also, also, I would just like to point out that it's the least you can do. It's the least you can do. It's the least you can do. It's the least you can do. I get, there's nothing, it's the least you can do. It's an outpatient procedure. You literally go in, you're not in there for

• 14:18Kylie Kelce?

  that long, you'll leave with a nice pack on your balls. You're fine. You go back after a couple of months, and you make sure that you're tested. That's an important part. You make sure that you get tested, and then do your thing, chicken wing. Guys, and then have at it. You know what I mean? Ask her to get her tubes tied. What's wrong with you? What's your relationship like with your mother? Don't answer that. I already know the answer. It was a rhetorical question. And she's about as disappointed as I am. How about them apples? How about them balls,

• 15:00Kylie Kelce?

  huh? And lastly, congrats to Team USA Basketball for their fifth straight FIBA World Cup championship. Wow. Okay. The locker room champagne clips are top tier, but I want to shout out this one of Katelyn Clark channeling some FAFO energy. Are you guys friends now? We've always been friends. Don't try to, don't try to do that. Don't try to do that. Ooh, shut it down. Shut it down. I love that. Why do people have to pit women against each other?

• 15:35Kylie Kelce?

  Ugh, don't do that. As Katelyn Clark said, don't do that. Next time we have a clip of pitting women against each other, we're going to get the audio of Katelyn Clark, and we're going to, we're going to put it in there, and we're going to go, don't do that. Don't do that. She said, don't do that. I love it. The only way to make that better is if she said suck my ass. But that's just personal preference. Maybe I'll tell him to suck my ass. She can be like, don't do that. And I'll be like, suck my ass. If you ever need backup, Katelyn, you let me know. I got you. Paige Becker is on the show, actually told us something similar about the media always pitting her against

• 16:16Kylie Kelce?

  Katelyn. Cut that out. Don't do that. Suck my ass. All right. That's it for Doom Scroll of the Week, brought to you by DoorDash. Ally Cooch is coming up after these messages from me. Being a person is tough enough these days, let alone being a parent. That's why I use DoorDash, because when life gets crazy, DoorDash just helps bring some order to it. Like this past week, when I needed nail polish remover, partially for my hands, partially because Bennett found nail polish, whatever, but it was 8:15 at night. It's bedtime. Honestly, while the girls were doing their shower, I Door-dashed nail polish remover, nail polish remover, and got to redo my nails. How they look? Probably not great now. That was a few days ago. But DoorDash came in clutch with that one.

• 16:58Kylie Kelce?

  Real life needs real relief. That's why DoorDash is there for whatever you need, whenever you need it. Life with kids is wildly unpredictable. No matter how much parents try to plan, there's always going to be chaos. Being able to offload a few to-dos and give a little more time to focus on yourself and your family is huge. We all know life gets crazy. DoorDash just helps bring a little order to it. Order now. This episode is brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket. I get it. There's that real fear of missing out on Sunday, but with NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV, you don't have to stress about it. You get every game, every Sunday, all in one place. Jason and I just filmed a commercial for Sunday Ticket, and Queen Emma somehow got her hands on the blooper

• 17:37Kylie Kelce?

  reel. Let's see this. That's me with a sandwich. That was Jason.

• 17:50Kylie Kelce?

  Look at how close they put the Cowboys fan to me.

• 17:59Kylie Kelce?

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• 18:41Kylie Kelce?

  how to wipe to three tiny humans. If I had to count the number of times that I've had to explain it, over, under, let's say 500 times, I'd say over. And I've also learned my go-to when my daughter's gotta go is pull-up training pants. I've been using pull-ups since Wyatt's transition into potty training, and I absolutely love that they give me peace of mind. And now, pull-ups has another reason I will always be a fan. They just introduced the new learning layer. It's designed to help kids learn the difference between feeling wet and dry. It's working for overnights because you want them to feel a little bit uncomfortable, so that they understand that when they pee in their sleep, that's what it feels like. It's progress without the stress

• 19:26Kylie Kelce?

  of the mess. It gives my tiny humans big confidence while I get the peace of mind of up to 100% leak-free protection. Head to Amazon during Prime Big Deal Days to save 20% on pull-ups and keep your potty training journey moving forward. Buy new pull-ups with Learning Layer now, designed to help kids learn wet from dry. She's one of my all-time favorite content creators, from her early days talking about being a wag to now as a mom of two little girls, getting real about postpartum breastfeeding and finding yourself again, and now she's joining the Netflix family for her new show, Couldn't Agree Less with Alison and Isaac. She's Scotty and Pepper's mom, a great friend, and she's, once again, not going to lie, Alison Cooch, welcome back. Excited to be

• 20:10Kylie Kelce?

  back. Now, the last couple of times we got to hang out in person was earlier this year. You were pregnant. We were in Aspen. We were also in San Francisco for Super Bowl. So I, of course, have to start with, how does it feel to not be pregnant anymore?

• 20:23Speaker 03

  I actually love pregnancy. I'm like the unicorn. Like, I, I truly do love being pregnant.

• 20:29Kylie Kelce?

  You lucky son of-

• 20:31Speaker 03

  Never gone.

• 20:32Kylie Kelce?

  You are.

• 20:33Speaker 03

  Right now, you should be checking in.

• 20:34Kylie Kelce?

  Ah, you're so lucky.

• 20:37Speaker 03

  It does feel nice not sharing my body. It does feel nice being like, oh, I can like, this is 200 milligrams caffeine. Let's just do a few more like.

• 20:47Kylie Kelce?

  Like those parts.

• 20:47Speaker 03

  Let's rip it.

• 20:50Speaker 03

  Hell yeah, just shotgunning like a Celsius. So I feel like there's parts of it that feel nice, but I also do miss being pregnant.

• 20:59Kylie Kelce?

  Do you still, do you ever still like put your hand down expecting a bump? Cause I found that after every single pregnancy, it was probably around the six month mark where I stopped like going to rest my hand as if there was gonna be.

• 21:12Speaker 03

  Photos because I'm like, I just wanna like put my hand there, but there's just.

• 21:16Kylie Kelce?

  Acknowledge it.

• 21:17Speaker 03

  Extra.

• 21:18Kylie Kelce?

  Me. We should be allowed to cup our bellies in a picture and just be like, look, me and my organs. We should do that.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  She once lived. That's why it looks like this.

• 21:28Kylie Kelce?

  There's a space here where I grew a human and I'm not over it. Is there a relief after giving birth? Do you have a relief that you can think of?

• 21:39Speaker 03

  Like relieved to like meet my child. Like I'm excited for that, but then other stuff, no.

• 21:46Kylie Kelce?

  Everything else, wrong.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  The second I pushed her, I was like, fuck.

• 21:52Kylie Kelce?

  Damn it. Here we go. So happy you're here. Also shit.

• 21:57Speaker 03

  I'm just like, let's normalize that. The newborn phase isn't actually the easiest phase. Everyone's like, oh, they sleep all the time.

• 22:04Kylie Kelce?

  Scary.

• 22:05Speaker 03

  It's.

• 22:05Kylie Kelce?

  No, they don't.

• 22:06Speaker 03

  No, they don't. They, she, her wake windows are longer than mine. I'm like, this is not normal. Yeah. Newborn phase is like really scary.

• 22:17Kylie Kelce?

  And they smell fear.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  No, they definitely do.

• 22:20Kylie Kelce?

  Stressed.

• 22:22Speaker 03

  They do. They feel that and they give it back to you tenfold. Yikes.

• 22:27Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 22:28Speaker 03

  So this postpartum or like even postpartum in general, I feel like there's a relief and like, oh, I'm excited to meet my daughter. I'm excited that like I get to bring her home. I get to meet like the feet that have been kicking me all, you know, the past few months, but there's not really relief for me in that like, oh, I can't wait to feel like myself. I think I feel like myself when I'm pregnant and that's scary.

• 22:50Kylie Kelce?

  That's so lucky. Cause every time I'm pregnant, I'm like, the second this placenta gets out, and I don't even blame the baby. I blame the placenta. That is a hormone bag of hell for me.

• 23:03Speaker 03

  Wait, they showed me my placenta. He was like, do you want to see the placenta? Oh yeah. I got pictures of it.

• 23:09Kylie Kelce?

  Four times. I've never seen it.

• 23:11Speaker 03

  No way. The first time I like got it encapsulated, this time I didn't do that, but I did want to see it. And Isaac took a picture of it next to his hand and it was.

• 23:21Kylie Kelce?

  Tell me, did you consume all of it?

• 23:24Speaker 03

  No, cause I went, I got sepsis. Not because of the placenta, but like maybe.

• 23:30Kylie Kelce?

  Who's to say?

• 23:31Speaker 03

  You've never seen your placentas?

• 23:33Kylie Kelce?

  I've never seen them. I think that's better. I don't, I'm, I don't have a peaceful relationship with placentas. I'm actually very angry with the placenta, which helps me not be angry, angry with the child. I'm growing. I'm like, you're a sweet little innocent baby, but the, the, the bag of hormones connected to you.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  The devil.

• 23:52Kylie Kelce?

  Sucking the life out of you.

• 23:54Speaker 03

  Horrible.

• 23:56Kylie Kelce?

  Absolutely horrific. And I'm telling you, within 24 hours after that shit is out, I'm like vibing, just happy as a clam. I'll tell you.

• 24:06Speaker 03

  And you know, I can see that. Did you feel like the sense of relief when you released your placenta? Because pushing the baby out, I was like, oh, like that felt nice. But then when they pulled the placenta out, I was like, oh my God, that felt good. No.

• 24:26Kylie Kelce?

  I know exactly what sensation you're talking about, but the funniest part is, is that this time around, you were able to have a successful VBAC, right? You've talked about that a lot. A VBAC for anyone that doesn't know is a vaginal birth after a cesarean. So basically after you have a C-section, if your doctor advises, you're able to try and have a vaginal birth for consecutive births. You were able to do that. Now Scotty was breach. Is that right? Is that why you had a C-section?

• 24:55Speaker 03

  Yep. So I had a planned C-section. I knew like 30 weeks on, I was probably gonna have a C-section. And I was okay with it, but then going into this pregnancy, I was like, if my doctor's on board with it, if my body is showing signs of rutting, ready to give birth, like let's try it.

• 25:12Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah. Now, did you go into labor naturally?

• 25:16Speaker 03

  Yep. My water broke on my kitchen floor.

• 25:20Kylie Kelce?

  How was that? Cause I've never gone into labor naturally. This fascinates me.

• 25:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is gonna be a fascinating story. I was playing kinetic sand with Scotty. I was doing a challenge of walking 20,000 steps just to induce labor. I was making a video about it. And of course my labor starts while I'm playing kinetic sand, just sitting on the ground peacefully. I stand up and I felt like a little bit of water come out. And I was like, I think I just peed myself. Didn't say anything to anybody. Just excuse myself. I was like, I'm gonna use the restroom. I'll be right back. It's just Isaac and Scotty in the house. I go back and I'm like, if this is pee, this is a new low. I gave a quick whiff, didn't, didn't smell like

• 26:04Speaker 03

  urine. I was like, I'm just gonna go about my day. That was weird. Uh, go back, playing a little bit more. I go to stand up again. And this time it like, you could visibly see like water between my legs. It didn't feel like a gush or anything. So I was like, okay, maybe that is my water. And I, I just look at Isaac, he goes, what? I was like, don't freak out. I think my water just broke.

• 26:29Kylie Kelce?

  Don't freak, don't freak out.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  He was like, wait, really? He goes, oh, oh, okay. Okay. I was like, well, I don't know if it's actually my water. And he goes, let me smell it. The fact that both of us thought to smell it. He goes down and goes, that's not urine. I'm telling you, that's not urine. I go, I, I don't, maybe it is pee. Maybe it is pee. He goes, Allie, if you pee yourself, you would know.

• 26:56Kylie Kelce?

  Maybe.

• 26:57Speaker 03

  Honestly, honestly, coming from someone who has been very pregnant four times, I can't say for sure.

• 27:05Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  I was in shock. I get to the hospital and they're like, oh, like, why are you here? And I say, oh, I think my water broke. And they go, okay, so we're gonna check real quick. They put me in a triage and they have like this thing they put up you and they check to see if it's your water. And she goes, it wasn't your water. I go, no, no, no, no, it was. She goes, let me go get my supervisor. I go, okay, great. This woman comes in and she's been kind of rude. I'm like, oh no, I think that like that was my water. She goes, you peed yourself. I go, that wasn't pee. She goes, you peed yourself. And I literally stand up. I'm like in the

• 27:47Speaker 03

  hospital gown and I just show her it coming out of my body. And she goes, maybe it was your water. Yeah, maybe, maybe your test is wrong. That I tried to get, I was gaslighted into thinking I peed myself. It wasn't urine. I was like, urine comes out of a different part of your body. I'm pretty sure, like a different hole.

• 28:07Kylie Kelce?

  Also, also, oh no, this is gonna make me wanna find someone. Also, what happens if they gaslight you enough that they convince you to go home and then you go home and you are in active labor?

• 28:23Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 28:24Kylie Kelce?

  After your doctors told you, knowing your medical history, that your ass was supposed to be in the hospital the minute you had an ounce of labor.

• 28:33Speaker 03

  Well, so that's exactly what happened. They called my doctor and they're like, hey, it wasn't her water. So we're gonna send her home. And he goes, no. He goes, actually, no. By the way, I was also already five centimeters dilated. So he was like, do not send her home. I don't want to do a home birth.

• 28:51Kylie Kelce?

  I, hey guys, if I wanted a home birth, the pool would be inflated. Okay? No.

• 28:58Speaker 03

  I want the epidural right now. I'm not even feeling contractions and I want it right now.

• 29:02Kylie Kelce?

  Did you get one? Was it glorious? Was it amazing?

• 29:04Speaker 03

  I want, I wish you could get epidurals like for fun.

• 29:08Kylie Kelce?

  Did you take a nap after you got it?

• 29:10Speaker 03

  No, I was like this, this is too good. I can't take a nap. I need to experience this. This is gonna be short-lived.

• 29:16Kylie Kelce?

  Let me tell you, there is nothing, nothing that hits harder than a post epidural nap. My ass is.

• 29:25Speaker 03

  You went to sleep after you got the epidural? Was your adrenaline?

• 29:28Kylie Kelce?

  For like two hours, for two hours, every time.

• 29:33Speaker 03

  I labored through the night and I couldn't even sleep.

• 29:36Kylie Kelce?

  No, I, ooh, yes. I love an epidural nap. I wanna be numb from my nipples down. I wanna be numb from my nipples down. I wanna feel pressure and that's it. And I want a two hour epidural nap. And then I wake up with my teeth chattering, a little nauseous. I asked for a bump of Zofran and then it's go time. The bump of Zofran is like, thank God I went into this just being able to like advocate for myself because the first time around, I was like, I think I'm like really like not feeling good. And I waited so long to tell them that. And they're like, oh, we'll just give you Zofran. This time I went in and I go, hi, um, I think my water broke. Can I get some Zofran, epidural and a warm blanket?

• 30:24Kylie Kelce?

  You've never had a better experience.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  I was pushing and my doctor almost didn't make it. Like it went quick. It was beautiful.

• 30:32Kylie Kelce?

  It was

• 30:33Speaker 03

  You're a tall queen and you were ready to get that baby out.

• 30:36Kylie Kelce?

  I got these birthing hips.

• 30:37Speaker 03

  That's what it is.

• 30:39Kylie Kelce?

  The first time I walked in my OB office when I was pregnant, the first time around, one of the doctors walked past me. He was like an older gentleman who you know, had just seen everything under the sun. And he was like, you'll be fine. And I was like, she's talking to me?

• 30:54Speaker 03

  Do I know you?

• 30:56Kylie Kelce?

  He literally meant because I was so tall, I would be fine.

• 31:00Speaker 03

  And you were?

• 31:01Kylie Kelce?

  I was like, thank you so mu- and I was four times.

• 31:04Speaker 03

  Honestly, like the bullying in middle school was worth it if birth is that easy for me.

• 31:09Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, oh my gosh. Oh, did you get bullied?

• 31:13Speaker 03

  Wow. Yes.

• 31:14Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 31:15Speaker 03

  What?

• 31:18Kylie Kelce?

  Just making sure.

• 31:18Speaker 03

  There is one, there's one individual and I refuse to say his name on this podcast. He called me a man almost every day of junior year. And I don't know if it's just that he was short of me. Or what? It was clearly based on his own insecurities, but I will tell you what, I'll take getting called a man every day of junior year. Just to, just to walk those, to have those children just walk clean out of my vagina.

• 31:48Kylie Kelce?

  They literally walk out.

• 31:49Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 31:50Kylie Kelce?

  Hi, nice to meet you. Now, I do have to ask, how is Scotty doing with Pepper joining the family?

• 32:00Speaker 03

  Incredible.

• 32:01Kylie Kelce?

  Is she?

• 32:02Speaker 03

  And probably not because I'm like this amazing parent who like really like coached her on this.

• 32:09Kylie Kelce?

  Give yourself some credit.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  But I will say she's in a baby doll phase. So like this is her real life baby doll. And we still have like consistent things, like weekly that are still the same from like before Pepper joined our family. So I don't know if she thinks life is that different.

• 32:32Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 32:34Speaker 03

  It's her baby doll and then the rest is just kind of like out of sight, out of mind, which is great.

• 32:40Kylie Kelce?

  So much. She does want to hold her a lot, but.

• 32:43Speaker 03

  Oh, perfect. Which Scotty is the size of a four year old. She's 40 inches tall. She is not on 99th percentile, but like technically 105th, if you really want to get specific. And I'll just look over and she's picking her up and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

• 33:01Kylie Kelce?

  Like, yes.

• 33:02Speaker 03

  But it's, I think it's, I would rather have that than her, hate her. So it's going, it's going really good.

• 33:09Kylie Kelce?

  Now, I will say, I think that at least in our family, our second child, she beefed up quick. Because I think she realized it was the only way she was going to survive. So like, there's a chance Pepper pulls that. Like she might just, she's tough, she might be just built for tough, you know?

• 33:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think she is definitely, and if she's not tough, she needs to learn how to be tough.

• 33:31Kylie Kelce?

  She, she's about to be.

• 33:33Speaker 03

  You ain't gonna have a chance out here sweetheart.

• 33:37Kylie Kelce?

  There was, there was a time I still remember, we had this little like slide in the living room and Jason, when our second was born, she was probably like three months old and she was doing tummy time. And she was on a blanket in the living room and Wyatt, our oldest climbs up to the top of the slide and looks over the side and Jason nudges me on the couch and goes, look, look, look, look. She's gonna come off the top ropes. And she literally looked like she was about to like drop an elbow. And I was like, Wyatt Elizabeth. And she was like, it's baby, it's sissy. And I was like, no, no. Oh, no, no.

• 34:11Speaker 03

  This can be the end for you.

• 34:12Kylie Kelce?

  Hi mommy.

• 34:13Speaker 03

  She, right.

• 34:15Kylie Kelce?

  I don't know if I like you yet. Mom, isn't she cute? Sissy cute? Yeah. I was like, oh God. But she's, they're fine. They're five and almost seven now. They're fine.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  Were, were the other two just as tough?

• 34:33Kylie Kelce?

  It, ah, in different ways. I mean Bennett, our third is, um, she's going to take over the world. And it scares me a little bit, but in like a fun to watch kind of way.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:45Kylie Kelce?

  And our fourth is just, I mean, she's out here, she came out swinging. Just yesterday, one of the girls took a book from her and she is wearing the same size clothes as Bennett. They're two years apart.

• 34:57Speaker 03

  Oh God.

• 34:58Kylie Kelce?

  They're, they're two years and a month apart. That she took a book and she goes over and just starts, wham, wham, wham. I'm like, no, how about no?

• 35:09Speaker 03

  Let's have, let's have kind hands.

• 35:11Kylie Kelce?

  You're like, I don't have a choice but to gentle parent because the, the children are doing the opposite. Honestly, I'm about to get wailed on, but, but Finn is, it's just because she's not even 18 months old and wearing three T clothing. Now that brings me to another thing that you have had a different, uh, journey with this time around. That you have discussed a lot is your breastfeeding journey.

• 35:36Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 35:36Kylie Kelce?

  Now I saw that I really enjoyed your three month update because that felt like there was a light at the end of the tunnel. Does it still feel like you've gotten on the other side of it?

• 35:50Speaker 03

  Sometimes. I, I think breastfeeding is easier and well, I exclusively pumped, remember? So.

• 35:57Kylie Kelce?

  Bow down. I bowed down. I'm not built for that.

• 36:01Speaker 03

  I shouldn't have done it. So I went into this experience being like, okay, you're either going to take the boob or you're going to take a bottle and it's going to be full of formula because I'm not doing the pumping bullshit anymore. Like it's just horrible for everybody. I hate everybody. So I went into it knowing that like, it was going to be like a probably a learning process. And it was because she had like a tongue tie, a lip tie, like all of these issues. She, I honestly don't think she liked it. I don't think she liked it. I was like, we're fucking doing it. We're gonna get this figured out. I had a lactation consultant. I was texting her every day. I was going to her house. I was like, what about this? What about this? I'm doing facial stretches. I'm like, what is going on?

• 36:46Speaker 03

  But I was just so like, we have to make this work. I need to try this. Um, and then we got to the three month and I was like, wait, this is easy. And now it's definitely easy to the point where like, I can't imagine ever bringing a bottle with me anywhere.

• 37:02Kylie Kelce?

  Mm hmm.

• 37:03Speaker 03

  But I'm the, like every single day, I'm like, she's probably hungry. I don't know. Just put her on the boob. Like we'll figure it out.

• 37:11Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 37:12Speaker 03

  And I just, I wish that I could just be like, she's eating. And if she's not like, if she's hungry, she'll cry. I just think I'll look over and she's smiling and I'm like, she's probably hungry.

• 37:24Kylie Kelce?

  I did, I did see that you're doing some weighted feeds. Is that right?

• 37:28Speaker 03

  Some, yep, a lot.

• 37:30Kylie Kelce?

  Are you doing a lot? I saw you post about it and I will say, I, I had to, of course, it's always like the 2am. Online at 2am being like, how do you know if your baby is eating enough?

• 37:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:46Kylie Kelce?

  And then it's like, you can get this changing pad that has a weight in it. And I was like, is this me feeding my anxiety? And allowing, and so the next doctor's appointment I had, I was like, hey, so, and our pediatrician is amazing. He's very old school and like, straight to the point. And I like that. That fit, that suits me. I was like, hey, I don't think she's eating enough. And he's like, you see this little line on my paper? And I was like, yes, I do. And he was like, that line is trending upwards, which means you're doing great, mom. Keep it up. And I was like, okay. And he was like, if that's not enough, she should have X number of wet diapers a day.

• 38:27Kylie Kelce?

  And if that's the case, she is getting enough milk. There is no arguing it. Like she, she'll feed the way she's going to feed. And that was the moment where I was like, I have to trust that that is correct.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  It's just such a mental game and I'm weak.

• 38:44Kylie Kelce?

  No, no, you're not. You're strong, but I am going to bring up, I am going to bring up a moment of weakness.

• 38:51Speaker 03

  Ah, yeah, I knew this was coming.

• 38:53Kylie Kelce?

  You just posted an IG story the other day about something we got to talk about. Essentially you had people, we'll call them assholes, in a comment section saying you are quote complaining about motherhood in your content. Which happens in a lot of our comment sections as well, to be honest.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  Really?

• 39:14Kylie Kelce?

  God, yes. Because I think that, I think that when you are not in it, when you're not in the trenches or you weren't just in the trenches, it's real, I think we get that amnesia that everybody talks about. I think that it's sensationalized all in front of you. Like that's what the world tells you. Like it's this beautiful, wonderful. You made a life. You brought it into the world. Great. I'm so happy for you. In the trenches, suck my ass. Suck my fat ass while I'm at it. Now, I know that you've talked a lot about that you don't read comments,

• 39:58Kylie Kelce?

  but apparently only when you're in postpartum era?

• 40:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:03Kylie Kelce?

  Great idea.

• 40:04Speaker 03

  Sometimes I think like, I'm already so down, like let's just kick me while I'm already down here. Because once you hit rock bottom, there's nowhere but up.

• 40:15Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 40:17Speaker 03

  So like, I'm already here. Let's just like.

• 40:20Kylie Kelce?

  Until the floor moves, Ally, until the floor moves.

• 40:23Speaker 03

  Am I moving my own floor?

• 40:27Kylie Kelce?

  Now I'm in the basement.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  Shit.

• 40:31Kylie Kelce?

  Now.

• 40:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. I, I would like to, sometimes, here, how do I want to say this? Going into social media, I always like to think, okay, if people are leaving a lot of the same comment, I want to be at least aware. Like, am I saying something that's out of touch? Am I saying something insensitive? Instead of getting defensive, I'm like, wait, I'm like, where can I learn?

• 40:55Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, sure.

• 40:56Speaker 03

  So I feel like I come at like hate comments all the time like that in a really bad way, where, I mean, if you're, if you're in a toxic comment thread and you find your name, no one's probably going to be fighting for you. This is probably not a great space.

• 41:13Kylie Kelce?

  It's a dark, it's a dark corner of the internet.

• 41:16Speaker 03

  And I still had like that mentality, okay, I need to learn, like, what can I learn from this?

• 41:23Speaker 03

  Except I found that comment thread when I was sitting in a dark room doing a contact nap and I was already having a bad day and I'm like, this is a good place to cry. Nobody can see me in here.

• 41:35Kylie Kelce?

  Now, in this IG post, you also said, if I'm being honest, I don't know who I am outside of being a mom right now, so I'm getting emotional.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Was I crying while I wrote that?

• 41:48Kylie Kelce?

  Maybe.

• 41:49Speaker 03

  I feel that to my core.

• 41:52Kylie Kelce?

  Your social team just screenshotting that, like, this is going to be perfect for the podcast, thank you.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  I, no, I genuinely, when I re, like, when people say, and, and I want to really, I want to make sure you understand the gravity of this. When people say things like that out loud, whether it's on social media, on a podcast, out loud, to hear it when you have thought it, or sometimes when you feel like you're like, almost just like treading water and you don't know how to describe it.

• 42:28Speaker 03

  It is so cathartic to hear someone else voice that because I would love to have something else to talk about.

• 42:39Speaker 03

  I'd love to.

• 42:40Kylie Kelce?

  I would love to.

• 42:41Speaker 03

  Glad you brought this up. Like, I would love to not be feeling this way.

• 42:47Kylie Kelce?

  Right? Like, I would love to, I would love to enjoy pregnancy and speak about it kindly. I would love to have these, I would love to answer emails like an adult. It's not happening right now. And like, you, I think, from like what you've talked about on social media, you, I feel like there was a stride that you hit between Scotty and Pepper, where you were like, okay, here it is.

• 43:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:18Kylie Kelce?

  It's not that like, motherhood defines me, I'm still Allie, I still get to be my own person, I still get to live my life, and I still get to be like, the absolute best thing I've ever gotten to be, which is a mom.

• 43:31Speaker 03

  Yes. And it was, it was like around the year mark, I had stopped pumping, all of those hormones were coming back to normal. I was like, wait, this is beautiful, and I get to share my life with my little best friend, like, this is perfect, and that's how you get pregnant again.

• 43:50Speaker 03

  You're feeling too good, damn it.

• 43:53Speaker 03

  Really feeling myself.

• 43:55Kylie Kelce?

  I want to say this, I think I speak for all of your followers when I say, thank you. Thank you for saying those things out loud. Thank you for saying that it's not easy right now. Thank you for talking about the struggle, because it's the thing that we've been talking about now, talking about getting your pink back, all of the things that you have been so upfront and forward about. It makes it easier for everyone else to exist in a world where we don't try and pretend like we are fine. Because sometimes we're not fine.

• 44:27Speaker 03

  I also can't pretend to be fine when I'm not fine.

• 44:30Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, no.

• 44:31Speaker 03

  Like, I applaud people who can make that, like, who can do things like that, but I, I'm just like, what is, what am I being fake for?

• 44:42Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. What, like, why pretend?

• 44:46Speaker 03

  It, honestly, I think it wouldn't help me and it probably wouldn't help you, it'd probably make you feel shit about your life. It'd make me feel shittier about my life. And you know what? A little self-deprecating humor, like, what's wrong with that?

• 45:00Kylie Kelce?

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• 45:43Kylie Kelce?

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• 46:28Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, the last one was comfy too, but this one, even comfier. I love that I don't have to remember to charge it all the stinking time. That's glorious. I barely remember to charge my phone. I have not yet checked the metrics when I'm watching football, but I will keep you up to date about that. We'll check in next week. Oura Ring 5 is 40% smaller than the previous generation and more powerful than ever. Ultra-thin and subtle, it's designed to become a seamless extension of your personal style and your most capable health tool yet. And it has best-in-class accuracy. Larger, smarter sensors deliver accurate sensing across 50-plus biometrics. Learn more about the world's smallest smart ring and discover how Oura can help you better understand your health at Ouraring.com.

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• 48:07Kylie Kelce?

  Well, now that, now that you feel better, how are we going to get our pink back? I did see that you joined a mom's group. How is that going?

• 48:17Speaker 03

  It's going great. Turns out, it actually does help when other people are like in your shoes, going through the same thing. We have like a low, it's called New Mom School. I think they have locations all over the country. But I joined it with one of my friends who gave birth two weeks after me, and I was like, okay, if anything, it's just like you and me going to hang out. We had the best group of women, I think it was 13 of us, and the instructor was like, this is the best group ever. Like, don't tell anybody I told you that. No, I'm like outing her on a very public podcast. But everybody is so funny, like, and we're all second-time moms, and we all had kids within, I think, like, six weeks of each other. And it is great.

• 49:00Kylie Kelce?

  Incredible.

• 49:01Speaker 03

  Our group chat, it feels very validating. There's people up at all time of the night, so if you send a text message, someone's going to respond. And it, it feels like I wish I would have had this my first baby, because I probably wouldn't have felt so alone.

• 49:16Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, well, I've said before, and I'll say it again, one of my favorite, you're my, one of my favorite followers on TikTok, and I want to show the real ones why, with a segment we do called Doom Scroll the Week, where I react to all sorts of viral clips on the internet, but this time, we're calling it Doom Scroll the Week, Allie Cooch Edition. Brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. Every game, every Sunday, all in one place. First up, your husband discovered perhaps the best form of birth control.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  It's like, hey, you're most fertile right after you have a baby. A little inconvenient, if you ask me. The doctor goes, let's talk about birth control. I go, no, no, no, I'm already on it. He goes, no, I'm not tracking your cycle. Like, like, do you want a different form of birth control? And I go, no, no, no, you didn't hear me. I am already on a different method of birth control this time. I point down to my husband, the birth control I'm on. Because my husband purchasing these shoes is birth control enough. For our audio listeners, they're toe shoes. They go around each individual little toe, even the pinky.

• 50:19Kylie Kelce?

  Ugh, I can't.

• 50:21Speaker 03

  Ew.

• 50:22Kylie Kelce?

  What's the, what's his excuse?

• 50:26Speaker 03

  He said, I need to let the dogs breathe.

• 50:29Kylie Kelce?

  Nope.

• 50:30Speaker 03

  Put those dogs back together.

• 50:34Kylie Kelce?

  Tell him his piggies are going to get lonely and they want to be together. Please, dear God.

• 50:39Speaker 03

  They are, and I'm just like, they can't be that good for your feet. Go barefoot, dude. You're, you're, you want to, is this a manly thing?

• 50:47Kylie Kelce?

  Barefoot would be 10 times better.

• 50:48Speaker 03

  Get out there barefoot. Go step on some rocks, some soil, maybe there's a nail out there. Let's be a man.

• 50:57Kylie Kelce?

  Toughen up.

• 50:57Speaker 03

  Toughen up.

• 51:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:02Kylie Kelce?

  Does he, does Isaac have other beige flags? Cause I, I don't, I think this is a red flag, but I'm gonna call it a beige flag. Cause I like Isaac. He's a good guy.

• 51:10Speaker 03

  He's a, he's a good guy.

• 51:12Kylie Kelce?

  I don't like him all the time, but I love him.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  But you, you got a great man. You have a great man. And he, I'm gonna call it a beige flag. Does he have other beige flags?

• 51:26Kylie Kelce?

  I think he's kind of full of them.

• 51:28Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 51:30Kylie Kelce?

  I'm trying to think of other.

• 51:31Speaker 03

  My consistent beige flag of my husband, it's always my example, is that he is the loudest human being I've ever met in my life. No matter what he's doing, it's loud. Walking through the house, loud, "Hey, be quiet, the baby's sleeping." Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know? Loud.

• 51:50Kylie Kelce?

  I think a beige flag is Isaac talks to anybody and everyone. I know like that.

• 51:57Kylie Kelce?

  Scotty would say, "I know like that." Because then I have to talk to everyone and anyone and everyone. And I know I come off that way on social media that I'm very outgoing. I have social anxiety. I don't want to talk to everyone.

• 52:13Kylie Kelce?

  So he can start up a conversation with quite literally anyone. He's like the typical like dad. Like, "I'm gonna talk to anyone," and that's his beige flag. Another beige flag is he can't be quiet. If the baby is asleep, you are not allowed to go anywhere near that room. Or you need something in that room, I will go in there. Because somehow, some way, it's your breathing, it's your feet, it's, I don't, it's everything. So, no.

• 52:36Speaker 03

  Does he snuff his nose?

• 52:40Speaker 03

  Let me tell you. Like, no.

• 52:42Kylie Kelce?

  Let me tell you, when the baby is in the middle of us, which has been pretty frequent recently, when our littlest is in the middle of us. And I'll be like, "She's right there." And he'll be like,

• 52:55Kylie Kelce?

  I'm like,

• 53:00Kylie Kelce?

  um, okay, we're gonna show you another clip. I want to show you this next clip because we talk a lot about how fucked up the phrase "bounce back" is on here. Irritating. Trash garbage.

• 53:15Kylie Kelce?

  Now, here, you are showing your postpartum body.

• 53:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, look at it. Ain't she beautiful?

• 53:23Kylie Kelce?

  No, but dead ass?

• 53:27Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 53:28Speaker 03

  I should've cut the clip. I just kept going. I'm just like,

• 53:31Kylie Kelce?

  Good. You were like, "Let me make sure everyone knows." You, first of all, nailed that. Also, have you been able to give yourself grace?

• 53:45Speaker 03

  Yes. Yes, I think it's, well, yes, but like in a toxic way. Like, I'm like, okay, I'm like, my body will feel like my body at one point in the future. So I think I'm able to give myself grace then because I've already been through it. But I, I'm trying right now in this moment to be like, this is not my time to be like the fittest I've ever been, like the healthiest, like, right now, I just need to just be.

• 54:11Kylie Kelce?

  How the fuck do you expect me to get my shit together? When I haven't had my, "Oh, there you are" moment?

• 54:19Kylie Kelce?

  And my abs aren't touching.

• 54:22Kylie Kelce?

  Nowhere near each other, actually. I'm on my second hernia right now.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 54:29Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, two different spots, though.

• 54:32Speaker 03

  The best guy.

• 54:32Kylie Kelce?

  The first one was low, and this one's high. It's fine.

• 54:37Speaker 03

  Like, how do you want me to get my shit back together if I'm going through all of these things? That's also kind of where I'm at, where I know I'm not, also, I'm not one of those unicorns who gets to lose weight while breastfeeding. In fact, my body does the opposite. They're like, "You're breastfeeding, we're gonna make you as plump as possible." I just know that, like, eventually I will, like, be confident about my body again. And like, it sucks to say that I don't feel like that confident about it now. I feel badass. Like, if somebody came at me and was like, "Wait, she looks pregnant." I would be like, "You fucking asshole, I just carried a baby. What did you do? What did you do?" I just grew a placenta. I grew an organ. And I grew a backbone. Here I am.

• 55:23Speaker 03

  So I, yeah, I wish I could be like that confident all the time, like, when I'm looking in the mirror. But my time will come.

• 55:30Kylie Kelce?

  I honestly think that's the best summary because that, that is, like, you, you're not always going to be like, "You know what? I am hot." I'm not hot postpartum. I'm not. I don't feel hot. I don't feel sexy. There is nothing cute about me or my attitude postpartum.

• 55:49Speaker 03

  I'm also gonna say, like, not gonna lie, I don't know how people get pregnant before their six-week appointment because ain't no way, yeah.

• 55:58Speaker 03

  Unless I'm the virgin Mary, like, I, there's not.

• 56:01Kylie Kelce?

  Immaculate conception?

• 56:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:04Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 56:06Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, you know what? Power to you, but also, can bet your bottom dollar that's not happening in my house.

• 56:14Speaker 03

  I love that for you, but I don't love that for me.

• 56:19Kylie Kelce?

  I don't even have to love it. I don't have to dislike it for me. It's not happening, so. I, my, my brain was like, when I get to that six, eight-week period where you go back and they check ya, and they're like, "Hey, you're cleared." I'm like, "Yeah, medically." Don't look at me.

• 56:38Speaker 03

  Don't look at my depression.

• 56:40Kylie Kelce?

  I can't even look in the mirror right now. Don't look at me. Don't look at me. Meanwhile, my husband's like, "That ass." I'm like, "Get, go wipe the other asses. Get away from me. Get away from me."

• 56:51Speaker 03

  My ass isn't one you need to worry about. Thank you.

• 56:56Kylie Kelce?

  There's four other asses you can go wipe. Bye. Yeah. Every time. And that was Dooms Girl of the Week, brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. Now, I do, I do quickly want to touch on, before I let you go, I do want to touch on your husband. We chatted about him a little bit. Great, I mean, the best.

• 57:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, him.

• 57:18Kylie Kelce?

  But, uh, congrats is in order, because you guys just announced your brand new show, Couldn't Agree Less with Allison and Isaac. Um, and the first episode comes out October 22nd on Netflix. Tell us about it.

• 57:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, so we officially joined the Netflix family and so excited. I mean, for various reasons. I'm like, holy shit, we're like part of the Netflix family. This feels surreal. I'm also really excited because this is our first project where we're doing it together. I, I feel like we make videos on like, social media together, but we've never done a project like this together. And we've started filming and it genuinely feels like the best, like, it's so fun. And I also am just talking to my husband, so like, I hope I would be enjoying it. And on the show, we're just going to dive into like, relationships as a whole, whether that be like, friendship relationships, relationships with your mother-in-law, like, all dating advice, so many different things.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  And that's coming from me and Isaac. And the best part is that usually we disagree. So when the show is called Couldn't Agree Less,

• 58:28Speaker 03

  like, we.

• 58:28Kylie Kelce?

  It's with each other.

• 58:29Speaker 03

  It is with each other. And I actually mentioned to him the other day, I was like, "We should just always disagree." Just to like, somebody's gonna disagree with what one of us is saying. So maybe we should just disagree more often and just have like, healthy conversations.

• 58:45Kylie Kelce?

  A little debate team, a little in-house debate team.

• 58:48Speaker 03

  Yes, exactly, if you will.

• 58:51Kylie Kelce?

  I am so excited to watch. Um, if you ever need a guest correspondent.

• 58:58Speaker 03

  Oh, we will be having you on for sure.

• 59:01Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, okay.

• 59:02Speaker 03

  The best part is that we get to talk about toxic relationships. And like, we're not talking about our relationship, we're talking about y'all's toxic relationships. So it's fun to like, give our opinion because you don't have, I don't have to go home to this.

• 59:15Kylie Kelce?

  Right. Thank God.

• 59:17Speaker 03

  Thank God.

• 59:19Kylie Kelce?

  Um, I, I think, I think I'd be terrible at it, but I'll try.

• 59:24Speaker 03

  No, because you have,

• 59:28Speaker 03

  in the best way, an unfiltered, like, you give unfiltered feedback.

• 59:33Kylie Kelce?

  True.

• 59:33Speaker 03

  And the people love that. They need to hear that. Somebody, somewhere, is going back to their ex for the fifth time, and they need to hear from Kylie.

• 59:44Speaker 03

  Don't you fucking do that.

• 59:46Kylie Kelce?

  That, I literally just told someone last week, "We love the earth, but we don't recycle." Thank you. That's that. And I feel strongly about that.

• 59:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, I will say Isaac and I did break up, so he is technically recycled. But that's just another reason as to why we're gonna give such great advice. We've really, that's why we're gonna disagree. That, that's why, like, I feel like we come from such different backgrounds. And, I mean, different religions, like, it kind of goes on and on. We are so different. But then, we're, we also have this like, big, beautiful marriage. So I'm like, who's best to give advice, other than us?

• 1:00:30Kylie Kelce?

  Probably a therapist.

• 1:00:30Speaker 03

  I can't wait to hear it.

• 1:00:31Kylie Kelce?

  But we also can give advice. I cannot thank you enough for taking the time to come on. I, you know how much I love your content and love getting to catch up with you and chat with you. Um, and I appreciate that you're having these very frank conversations. And, um, also appreciate you taking the time to fucking do a podcast today.

• 1:00:52Speaker 03

  No, this was beautiful.

• 1:00:53Kylie Kelce?

  Superwoman.

• 1:00:54Speaker 03

  Talking to somebody that actually talks back. It was beautiful.

• 1:00:59Speaker 03

  So thank you, thank you for having me on. I'll come on anytime.

• 1:01:02Kylie Kelce?

  Amazing. Well, thank you so, so much, and, uh, we'll catch up again soon.

• 1:01:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, very soon.

• 1:01:08Kylie Kelce?

  And that's it for this episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Allison on my YouTube channel, on More Shit Monday. Follow us on social media, at NGLwithKylie, for clips throughout the week. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original, brought to you by DoorDash. Thanks again to The Real Ones for tuning in.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  Wave.

• 1:01:40Speaker 01

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