370 Tai Lopez On How Being a Millionaire Affects Your Overall Happiness

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  This is episode number 370 with the mysterious Ty Lopez.

• 0:07Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

• 0:33Lewis Howes?

  Welcome everyone to a special edition of the School of Greatness where we interview some of the top business minds, world-class athletes and thought leaders in the world to reveal to you how to be great. And my intention behind this entire podcast was to learn the strategies and the secrets and the stories from all these incredible people about how they've created incredible results in their life. All walks of life, all walks of people, how they've gotten to the top in their industry and in their area. And today I'm interviewing a guy named Ty Lopez. Now, many of you reach out to me and ask me about different people in the industry, in the space often. And I'm always asked about, do I know these people?

• 1:16Lewis Howes?

  What do I think about them? What have I learned from them, et cetera, et cetera? And Ty Lopez is a guy, his name that comes up often. And a lot of my audience, a lot of you guys say that you don't resonate well with him, that you're not connected to him or aligned to his message or his way of marketing, his style. You know, he lives in an 18-bedroom mansion here in Beverly Hills. He's always got models at his house. He's got a lot of really nice luxurious cars that he shows off a lot. And to be honest, I wanted to know more about why he does the things he does as well. So many of you fielded me questions. I said, Ty, I want to bring you on. I'm doing a book right now about masculinity. There's different masks that we, that we wear as men. And I want to learn about, about yours, or if you have any, or what that looks like.

• 2:00Lewis Howes?

  And for those that don't know who Ty is, his bio, I'll read it really quick. He's an investor, a partner, or an advisor to over 20 multimillion dollar businesses. And through his extremely Popular book club that I've been on and podcast. Ty shares advice on how to achieve health, wealth, love and happiness. With 1.4 million people in over 40 countries. He's appeared on various TV and radio shows, spoke at top global universities like the London Business School and University of Southern California. And he's got a huge YouTube channel called The Grand Theory of Everything. It's tons of views, tons of subscribers. And some of the things we cover are what are the best and hardest parts about Ty's luxurious lifestyle that he portrays and put out to the world?

• 2:44Lewis Howes?

  Also, why Ty won't say how old he is? I asked Ty probably like five times during this interview how old he was. And he won't reveal his age. And he tells me why he won't do that as well. What it is about age and gender that tend to hold people back in general? And why they're so held back by how young or how old they are? Why we trust someone we like more than someone we don't like? And why this can be bad? And Ty's theory of motivation. Now, I have to be honest with you guys about something. I feel like I failed you in some way in this interview. I pride myself in really getting people to open up and really getting people to connect with me and share their, their secrets, their strategies, their stories.

• 3:30Lewis Howes?

  And I feel like Ty was more reserved. He wasn't willing to open up. Now, he said at the end of the interview that he shared more on this than he has in any other interview or that he's done or any video he's done on his own. His team members came up to me and said, wow, I've been working with Ty for two years and I didn't hear half of those things. So he was shocked. His team was a little bit shocked of what they learned about him. But I felt like there was a lot of reservation still. So maybe I'll be able to get him back on another interview and really get him to reveal all the things I want to hear about because that's the things that you guys were asking me about to ask him. So I feel like I failed you in a sense that I didn't get the full answer that I wanted to be able to be in service to you.

• 4:15Lewis Howes?

  But I think there's a lot of incredible information through this interview. And you're going to get to see how Ty thinks, why he does what he does. He's built an incredible financial empire. You'll learn about why he's so committed to making more money. If there's a number that Ty will ever be satisfied with and what his main reason for. portraying and pushing the lifestyle, the models, the cars and the books that he has, because the books and the reading are actually the most important thing for him. So let me know what you guys think. I want to hear what you guys think over on Twitter, @lewishouse, @tylopez. Let me know and share with me and Ty what you guys think.

• 4:56Lewis Howes?

  Also, make sure to check out lewishouse.com/370 to watch the full video interview. I am fascinated by body language, by how someone looks, by the way someone looks at people, by the way people respond to certain questions. So you'll ask me digging in deeper with a certain question and you'll see Ty's response. I'm curious to hear what your thoughts are and what your feedback is on his responses, both verbally, both with eye contact and with body language, because we learn the most from body language. So, check it out, lewishouse.com/370. Let me know what you guys think. And are there any other questions you'd like me to ask him for a follow-up interview, where if you could know the answer and we could get him to answer it, would you be even

• 5:41Lewis Howes?

  more interested? So, let me know. Also, you can connect with Ty and learn about all of the stuff that he does at lewishouse.com/370. So, share with your friends right now. Let me know what you think on Twitter or in the comments below on the show notes. And, without further ado, let me introduce to you the one, the only, Ty Lopez. Welcome everyone to the School of Greatness Podcast. Very excited for our guest today, Ty Lopez. Thanks for having me, man. In your house. Good to see you, man. I'm excited about this and I want to read your bio really quickly for those that don't know who you are. Ty Lopez is an investor, partner, or advisor to over 20 multimillion dollar businesses

• 6:23Lewis Howes?

  through his popular book club, which I was on, thanks for having me on, and podcast. Ty shares advice on how to achieve health, wealth, love, and happiness with Over 1.4 million people in 40 countries was I'm sure is bigger now since this bio was posted online. He's appeared on

• 6:39Speaker 00

  My lawyer says to do it understated.

• 6:41Lewis Howes?

  Right, there you go. He has appeared in various TV and radio shows, spoke at top global universities like the London Business School and the University of Southern California. And created one of the top downloaded podcasts and YouTube channels, The Grand Theory of Everything. So again, thanks for for coming on, man.

• 6:58Speaker 00

  Thanks.

• 6:58Lewis Howes?

  And there's, you know, we've known each other for a few years and there's been, we're kind of running similar circles, similar spaces. I live not even a half a mile away from you.

• 7:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:07Lewis Howes?

  Two blocks down. We're at your place here in Beverly Hills and a lot of people asked me to interview you.

• 7:13Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 7:14Lewis Howes?

  Because they have a misconception about you.

• 7:16Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 7:17Lewis Howes?

  And so I think a lot of people have a negative misconception about you. So I want to set the record straight to let people know who you are.

• 7:24Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 7:24Lewis Howes?

  And who you really are. And so I'm curious, the first question is, how would you describe yourself if someone said, who are you?

• 7:31Speaker 00

  How would I describe? I mean, I think that

• 7:36Speaker 00

  I am a curious person that likes to try lots of stuff. And if I look back at my life, I think it's easy to lose objectivity when you try to figure out your own life. But if I look objectively at my life, just year to year, I'm kind of like a mad scientist. And so, you know, I've lived with the Amish for two years. I've been to 40 or 50 countries. I've been in finance. I worked for GE Capital, it's the biggest company in the world at the time. Um, I've been an entrepreneur. I've, uh, lived in a mobile home. I've lived in Beverly Hills. And so for me,

• 8:20Speaker 00

  I think that I'm more interested in trying stuff than any one thing in and of itself. So I was like, a lot of people know me for stuff like Lamborghinis and Ferraris and stuff like that, but That's just some, that's because that's catchy. So people catch that part of me. I like books. Sometimes people latch on to that part of me, so you know, it's interesting. In terms of positive or negative people, I get a couple. That bio should definitely be updated. I get. Google says I have between 100 and 200 million people who follow my stuff, watch my stuff in a year.

• 9:01Speaker 00

  And anytime you get that much volume, it's been very interesting mad scientist to see the variability of reactions. So I remember when I was about 20, I read an article. It was, and this is somewhat related to this book that I know you're working on, on the masks that people wear. So these scientists in National Geographic said. In India, you have massive disparities between the poor and the rich. I mean, you're talking people who make eight bucks a month and people who are billionaires. You don't have, we have that somewhat in America, but you don't have anybody in America that's. There are 40 million starving to death people in India. And they said, how does that happen? Like, how do those people who live near a billionaire not just go knock the door down and take food?

• 9:46Speaker 00

  And they said, our brain has developed mechanisms of coping with other people's success. And I've seen it in my own brain when I see people more successful than me. I can't remember, I wish I could find the article, but I was, like I said, when I was like 20. One of the reactions is people think that the person got lucky. This is one common reaction. The other one is that the person inherited it. The other one is that they stole it. And I forget what the fourth one, and only the fifth one is thinking, wow, that maybe that person has something I can learn from. That's how they got successful. So only about 20% of the population, in my mind.

• 10:32Speaker 00

  Doesn't suffer from delusion and you call, you know, you were telling me on how men have masks. And I think we all have that. I've always called it delusion. And I think there's a lot of delusion about anybody.

• 10:48Speaker 00

  Who gets a lot of following, like the Kardashians. I remember, boy, I was at the Laker game a couple of years ago and when they were hated. And Justin Bieber too, you know, he had the most disliked video and people hated them and now they are loved. And but they're the same people. So this this this delusional kind of perception is what messes us up. And I think if you can really see clearly, and this is maybe why I'm a mad scientist. I want to see clearly, like I've heard people say money doesn't make you happy. So I lived with the Amish for two and a half years.

• 11:30Lewis Howes?

  When was this?

• 11:31Speaker 00

  That was when I was about 23, 24.

• 11:34Lewis Howes?

  How do you know?

• 11:35Speaker 00

  That's the thing I my publicist said I should never say, but.

• 11:40Lewis Howes?

  Why would not?

• 11:42Speaker 00

  I don't know, maybe it's one of my masks.

• 11:44Lewis Howes?

  What's what is about age?

• 11:45Speaker 00

  She says this Hollywood, never say your age.

• 11:47Lewis Howes?

  Why, why is that you think?

• 11:49Speaker 00

  I don't know, I think that, you know, I think.

• 11:51Lewis Howes?

  Not good or bad, I'm just curious.

• 11:53Speaker 00

  No, I think that in business, so I think in business you want to be super honest. But at some things you want to be closed.

• 12:02Lewis Howes?

  Why?

• 12:03Speaker 00

  You know, there the art of war, the old, you know, Chinese book on strategy. Or the newer one by what's his name, what's the guy everybody loves that wrote this book? Robert Greene.

• 12:19Speaker 00

  I think there's a lot of bad people out there and each person in life will have to cope with people. And when I say bad, a better way to say it is people who don't have your interests at heart. And so sometimes when you give too much information, people who don't have your best interests at heart will use that against you. Now, age is, yeah, it's a subjective thing. So I think that when the mask, when I think about mask and whether I should have some. I also think it masks, it depends who you're with.

• 12:49Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 12:50Speaker 00

  So it's kind of like you could think of a common sense. If you are walking the streets and somebody says, what's your ATM PIN code? You're going to want to keep a mask up. You're going to be like, ah.

• 13:01Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely.

• 13:02Speaker 00

  If your CPA says, you know, or your mother says.

• 13:08Speaker 00

  Yo, I need to get some money. What's your PIN code? You're gonna treat him differently. So I think a lot of the masks we deal with come from us trying to estimate how this person does or doesn't have our best interests at heart. So there's certain things like information, like there's people that think I rent my cars, or that was a big conspiracy theory when it first came out. A guy saw, when I first got the Lamborghini, it had a little piece of plastic key. So the guy, he said, that's a rental, which is not true at all. And for years, I've been like, should I release the title to the car? Because if you release the title, it shows the date I had the car. And I think this month, I'm gonna release it. So I've been, I've had the mask up that, you know what?

• 13:52Speaker 00

  Do I want to live a life where just because somebody says I rent a car, I have to prove it? Because sometimes unmasking yourself is actually ego.

• 14:04Lewis Howes?

  What do you mean by that?

• 14:05Speaker 00

  Somebody, if I come up to you and I go, if somebody comes up to you in the street and says, Louis, I don't think you're a successful business guy. Show me your bank account. Well, and then some people will go, oh, yeah, let me show you my ATM statement. Look, I got this many millions. That can be a form of ego, too. Whereas my first mentors, a lot of the guys I learned from, guys like Joel Salatin, if somebody said to him, I don't think you have much money, Joel would be like, okay, great. I didn't make my money to try to impress you. He'd just go on, he'd just keep walking by that guy.

• 14:33Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure.

• 14:34Speaker 00

  So I think that, um...

• 14:36Lewis Howes?

  So how old are you then?

• 14:39Speaker 00

  I always say, I'm a vampire, 500.

• 14:45Lewis Howes?

  Okay. So why do you have a hesitation around age then? I'm just curious. Again, not right or wrong, I'm just curious.

• 14:50Speaker 00

  You know what? I, I don't know.

• 14:52Lewis Howes?

  I've always been open about mine.

• 14:53Speaker 00

  No, age, it's not even age. It's like, I always think I'm gonna give away the most information that can help people. So people ask me-

• 15:02Lewis Howes?

  Why would age hurt people?

• 15:05Speaker 00

  Well, I, I'll give you an example. In general, one of the most Googled things around my name is what my net worth is. I saw there's an article that says something about my net worth. It's not accurate at all. Somebody just wrote something. And I always think-

• 15:24Speaker 00

  Will that help people if I disclose what it is? And I don't want to be perceived as, oh, I'm not a Warren Buffett. I'm not a billionaire person. So, I don't divulge that because I don't think it would help anything. Same with Lamborghini. I didn't think it would help. In fact, the way I figured it is by not sharing whether the Lamborghini was rented or not, all the suspicious people won't follow me and I don't like them to start with.

• 15:53Lewis Howes?

  But why show the Lamborghini in the first place if it's not even important to show it?

• 15:57Speaker 00

  Because the Lamborghini was part of my life. And it was a real thing and it was something I bought before I even ever posted videos on YouTube. And so, I do think, so, you know, going to where you get negative. My biggest negative...

• 16:12Lewis Howes?

  So what's around the age, what would be negative around the age?

• 16:15Speaker 00

  Well, all your personal stuff. I mean, people want to know income. They want to, because they want to size you up. So people want to go, "Okay, that guy's that age. Hmm, I don't feel, I feel like I'm behind."

• 16:31Speaker 00

  You know, it start, I've just found that that, a level of secrecy around yourself sometimes is okay and sometimes it isn't. And I think you have to be wise about that, what that is. And everybody draws the line differently.

• 16:45Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 16:46Speaker 00

  Like, I'm sure there's things you divulge that I wouldn't divulge, but probably vice versa too.

• 16:50Lewis Howes?

  Right, right, right.

• 16:51Speaker 00

  You know?

• 16:53Lewis Howes?

  Okay, well, maybe you'll tell me behind the curve, guys, at the age.

• 16:57Speaker 00

  It's actually not that big of a deal.

• 16:59Lewis Howes?

  I guess I'm just more curious of why...

• 17:01Speaker 00

  I figure it's an innocuous thing and all the innocuous things you should keep secret. That's what I was figuring.

• 17:06Lewis Howes?

  That's fine. I guess I'm just curious because I'm wondering what's the reason behind it. If, you know, I think like telling your age could inspire a lot of people. It's depending.

• 17:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:14Lewis Howes?

  If you're younger than people think, like, "Hey, look what I've created with my age." Or, "Look, you can still create something out of your age."

• 17:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, but see, that's what, okay, so that, what you're saying is precisely what I'm trying to avoid. I often, I have a huge amount of following people that are under 25. And a lot of them go type, "What's your advice to an 18-year-old?" Well, here's my advice to an 18-year-old. Or, and the same thing with women. People go, like, "If we could hide our gender, I think we'd help more people." Because what happens is women will see a successful guy and go, "Well, I can't do that because he's a guy." Well, age and gender hold most people back. When people are 14- I agree. I think when you're 8, here's how the economy works. Most things we buy now are e-commerce related. Meaning, we don't see the seller.

• 18:01Speaker 00

  Therefore, it's the best time ever for minorities, for women, for 14-year-olds, for 90-year-olds. You add value to the world and create a product that's high-quality in the value chain. And, don't think about your age. So, my advice to an 18-year-old entrepreneur, who's a female and black, is the same advice to a 50-year-old who's a white guy. It doesn't matter. What you should be focused on is how can you create high-quality products and market them persuasively? I agree. It doesn't matter what age you are, race you are- Yes. But, isn't it more inspiring to reveal who you are? But I don't want people to be inspired by that. I want people to be inspired, well, I think for me,

• 18:42Speaker 00

  I want people to be inspired around accuracy. So, what I look for in people, and there's a human bias, there's these 25 cognitive psychological biases that cause humans to make mistakes. There's all kinds of association bias, availability, Kantian fairness, all these highfalutin scientific words. Well, one of these cognitive biases is called liking or disliking bias. So, what it means is, if somebody we like, Oprah Winfrey, says 5 plus 5 is 11, we're more likely to go, "Maybe it is 11." And if Adolf Hitler, somebody we hate, says 5 plus 5 is 10, we're more likely to go, "Hmm, he's probably wrong."

• 19:27Speaker 00

  Well, this is a flaw in the brain. You should hate what Hitler did and you should love Oprah, but you should value each point that comes out of somebody's mouth, especially if you're looking up to them. Go, "Is it accurate?" So, if I say to you, "Hey Louis, this is how I think you should do Instagram marketing."

• 19:50Speaker 00

  If you then go, "How old are you?" See, that's a mistake. I learned from, I learned how to, I have a pretty engaged Twitter. Some person, a few years ago, DM'd me and said, "Hey, man, I'm the king of Twitter. I'll show you how to do it." I was like, "Shoo, tell me, I'm open to experiment." He told me, you know, "Post seven times a day, here's the times, da-da-da-da-da." Sure enough, that shit worked. Well, lo and behold, this kid turned out later to be 14. And I'm glad that wasn't the opening conversation because I may, might have said, been biased and go, "What's this 14-year-old say?"

• 20:26Lewis Howes?

  Results don't lie.

• 20:27Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 20:28Lewis Howes?

  It doesn't matter how old you are.

• 20:29Speaker 00

  That's right, and I tell people that, if they like me or dislike me, because some people, it's actually a negative media, it depends, about 99% of people love my stuff. I see, I get tens of thousands of testimonials. It's just negative people will write more.

• 20:46Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 20:47Speaker 00

  And so, what happens is, I get people who like me too much, to the point where I feel like they're no longer judging the quality of my content. They're like, "If Ty says it's as good." I don't want to be that guy, I'm not a cult leader. And then I get other people who will see a video and go, automatically go, "This guy's an idiot." Well, I'm not a [bleep] idiot, I can tell you that. And so, even if somebody hates somebody's style, I look around at the plethora of mentors available to us now. Whether it's YouTube, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, I was, I listen to one person a day. I was listening to Kevin Systrom today, who started Instagram, made a billion bucks in a couple of years.

• 21:29Speaker 00

  I'm like a gold miner, and I'm looking through there, and every person just has to give me one nugget. Whether I like Kevin Systrom's app, or his value, or how he talks, I don't care.

• 21:41Lewis Howes?

  You get value from everyone.

• 21:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you, but not everything people say is valuable, so you gotta become a filter.

• 21:46Lewis Howes?

  What drives you right now to do what you're doing, and to create so much, and to grow what you've been growing? What's your driving force?

• 21:54Speaker 00

  You know, I think it's, it's part adventure. I have this thing that there's the four M's of motivation, what motivate us. I actually, I have all these cool mentor guys that I, I now have like, built this advisory board. So I try to do one phone call a day with somebody really smart, whether it's an author, or PhD, or, and there's a guy...

• 22:17Speaker 00

  Who is a very famous psychologist and he wrote a book. And I said, I got this theory of motivation. He's like a Wharton professor and he listened to it and he was like, I think that's right. I think that's about right. He had a little few changes and it's the four Ms. So you have material things, mating.

• 22:38Lewis Howes?

  Mating?

• 22:38Speaker 00

  Mating, which would come like human relationships. The third one would be you have mastery, which is like status. And the last one is movement or momentum, freedom. And so I think every person you meet for the most part, if they're normal sane humans, is going to be motivated around that hierarchy. And some people though, other, some things are more important. Like Warren Buffett, he said from seven years old, he knew he wanted to be wealthy. So this is a materialistically driven guy, but he can help the world. I think my order, you gotta know your order. I think I'm most driven by movement, freedom. Like I became an entrepreneur because I didn't like a nine to five job.

• 23:22Speaker 00

  You know, I did it, I tried it, it wasn't for me.

• 23:24Lewis Howes?

  How old were you when you became an entrepreneur?

• 23:26Speaker 00

  Oh, around 19.

• 23:28Lewis Howes?

  19.

• 23:28Speaker 00

  And, and I around 20. What was that, last year? When I was 20, I then was an entrepreneur and then I did a little bit of company work at the same time I was an entrepreneur, didn't like it. Same with going to college. So I think that's my first one and then each person's different. And that's one thing where you get people that don't like each other. It's a huge mistake. I see people, and you see this a lot, people go, well, I'm not gonna list this person. I don't think they have my values.

• 24:00Speaker 00

  Well, all humans have, if they're not criminals, you probably share the same values, just in different priority order. Hugh Efnor, this is a man driven by, let's say mating. We could say Hugh Efnor, he liked women.

• 24:16Speaker 00

  A lot of people, if you bring up the name Hugh Hefner, a lot of people will write him off. Well, he's a freaking genius. I just, I try to do like, once a week, I'll study one person that's well-known. I mean, he has an IQ equal to Bill Gates. He's a genius guy. And if you look at his life, you know, he's 28 years old. He was in a marriage that was failing. He was at a bridge and he said, "Is this it? Is this all my life? I don't, I hate my life." And about a month later, he launched Playboy and it became, you know, it was an instant hit. And he went on to doing all kinds of stuff. I mean, he was the first real figure in America that was, that was accepting black people in. I mean, he was interviewing Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr.

• 24:58Speaker 00

  When these people were, or I don't know if it was Martin Luther King Jr., but they were getting shot. I mean, they ended up getting shot. And he, so, we, one of my, there's a genius guy, speaking of secretive. I know a few entrepreneurs, in fact, I know about three of them that are, make the most money. And they are so secretive guys. And I get to have dinner with them once in a while. And I was in New York and I had dinner with this guy and he said, "Just remember, Ty, most people can only hold one thought in their head at the same time." So, it used to be, Kim Kardashian, Kardashians, idiots. Now, Kylie Jenner, this month, on her birthday, said, "I'm selling a lipstick kit. Hundred fifty bucks for the kit. Only three hundred thousand."

• 25:42Speaker 00

  What'd she sell out in, one hour? Thirty million bucks? She's 18. She make it, she's not an idiot. So now, all of a sudden, the mind, so now people love the Kardashians. Justin Bieber, there was a time, douchey kid, hate. And so, I think that, when I think about my motivations, and when I see people trying to figure out my motivations, most people want it to just be one motivator. Humans are complicated. I'm complicated. The smarter you are, at some level, as a species, you can be more complicated. You know, earthworms, they ain't that complicated. Dogs, a little more complicated. We have dogs. You can have a dog with a little more complicated personality. Sure. Well, dogs have about a 40 to 50 IQ.

• 26:25Speaker 00

  Humans have 100 to 200 IQ. And that's exponential curve, which means we're 100 times more complicated. By the way, which speaks to why I think we have masks. That's a whole nother.

• 26:37Lewis Howes?

  What would you say are your top priorities in life right now?

• 26:41Speaker 00

  Parties, I mean, uh, I try to keep it simple in my mind. I call the four pillars of the good life. Health, wealth, love and happiness. I try to, I want to have all four of those.

• 26:51Lewis Howes?

  What's missing?

• 26:53Speaker 00

  You know, I think the ebb and flow. Like I, I think there's times when your physical health, you're working too hard and then so you're not as healthy.

• 27:01Lewis Howes?

  That's probably the healthiest I've seen you in the last few years.

• 27:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. I've been able to, you know, I was doing a lot of work stuff and I balanced a little bit better. Um, but I'm doing a lot of stuff. I think social life is super important. So I think in each person's life, if you're a genius and you're watching this, you'll be able to do it way better than me, which is always hold all four constantly up. And that's, that's what my thing is now. It's like, how can I structure my life? So that all four of those are rocking and rolling. And, and that includes wealth sometimes, you know?

• 27:34Lewis Howes?

  What, um, is a question from one of my listeners.

• 27:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:38Lewis Howes?

  Well, I'm first curious before I ask the full question is have you ever been married?

• 27:42Speaker 00

  No.

• 27:43Lewis Howes?

  Okay. Uh, one of the questions is has the money and the luxury that you, that you live in and the lifestyle you have, made relationships easier or harder for you? You need to make personal relationships.

• 27:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think, uh, that if you're not careful, money is like a pit bull. And a pit bull can save your life or it can turn around and kill you. And so when it comes to dating, you know, if I'm dating girls, if you make more money, have more different status level, you have to be more aware of that because there are, like I said, there are people with, that don't have your best interests at heart. But you know what? I remember when I was poor and there's nasty people too.

• 28:29Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 28:30Speaker 00

  I haven't found that to be as big of a deal as people think. I do. One thing that I think you have to be careful of is when you have a major status change in your life. So if you met a girl when you were poor. Like Kevin Systrom and then he became a billionaire, that can be rocky. Whereas if you're Bill Gates and you've been a billionaire since you're 30, he probably doesn't remember what it's like to have to cope. So I think the transition is more, but. What's your vision for a relationship in your life? What do you want to create? Do you mean like love, dating? Yeah, you see yourself being married, you see yourself having.

• 29:09Speaker 00

  I think maybe, you know, I don't know that, um, there's this interesting book called Attached by Heller and Levine. And we know more now about how the brain works and there's different types of people. There's, it's called attachment theory. So there's secures, there's avoidance and there's anxious. And the main takeaway I take from it, I don't think everybody's gonna get married for 50 years. And my proof is the second you made the world free, meaning women didn't have to be married to men, they could survive economically and thrive without men. The divorce rate went straight to 50 50. And I will bet money it's going to be 50 50 for the next couple of centuries.

• 29:54Speaker 00

  Why? Because the attached theory has found that about 50% of children, and you can trace it back to toddler age, are secures. So I think the world would be a lot better place if you don't force everybody to get married. I do, I will tell you this, everybody should have love in their life, romantic love. Do you have it? Um, I just broke up with, I was in a relationship for a couple of years. Um, so yeah, I think you should have it. I think I'm somebody, I, well, you can just look at my life. I don't think I'll be somebody that necessarily got married at 19 and, you know, died at 80.

• 30:35Speaker 00

  You know what, uh, Dr. Marina Adche, she told me, she goes, Ty, people forget throughout history, average marriage is 12 years because people used to die. Wow. So she goes, we're not, our DNA, we're not, all people thinking you're supposed to be with one person for 60 years, 50 years. She goes, it ain't happening because we're not coded that way. But about, I think 50% of people, so if I had brothers and sisters and, or kids or whatever, I would just look at each person individually and be like, you know what? You're a lover. Right. Get married, stay married. You look at another person, you know what? It's gonna be a disaster. And you see that in the world, and kids end up getting messed up. I think it's a tricky question.

• 31:17Lewis Howes?

  So what do you want to create moving forward?

• 31:20Speaker 00

  In?

• 31:21Lewis Howes?

  Relationships.

• 31:21Speaker 00

  Relationships?

• 31:22Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. What would be the ideal relationship for you?

• 31:25Speaker 00

  I think you find love and you stay in it as long as it is meant to be. I know that sounds like such a cliche thing, but man, imagine. I grew up with a single mom. My dad was in prison when I was born. And then my mom got remarried. That marriage lasted for a while, it was rocky, eventually divorced. You know, Dane Cook, you remember the comedian Dane Cook?

• 31:51Lewis Howes?

  I've seen him over at the Comedy Awards.

• 31:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's at Laugh Factory and stuff. I heard him say the best, most poignant point ever from the stage. He goes, "Why can't we just be adults and get to that point where you realize you're no longer in love? And just go, wow, this has been awesome. We've got kids, I'm gonna go live over here, you live over there, and let's always love each other." He goes, "No, we just let it degrade to the point where people want to murder each other, and the kids are in massive conflict." And so, I think the mature, I think the worldview is wrong. There's no science that 100% of people are meant to be married forever.

• 32:26Lewis Howes?

  Then what's your, what do you want to create then? What's the vision for your relationship in the future? If you could have the perfect, ideal relationship, what would that look like or feel like?

• 32:35Speaker 00

  Well, I think, I think you'd be in love and you'd want to be in love. But what I'm saying is...

• 32:42Lewis Howes?

  But what do you want?

• 32:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For me, definitely, I think all people, including me, you should have love. I'm just saying, some people, it's gonna be with one person forever.

• 32:51Lewis Howes?

  I understand, but I'm curious what you want, not what everyone else wants.

• 32:55Speaker 00

  It depends who I find. It depends who I find.

• 32:58Lewis Howes?

  If you could create the life of your dreams with a woman that you want to be with?

• 33:03Speaker 00

  I think if you...

• 33:03Lewis Howes?

  Just like you created this. Just like you created this lifestyle.

• 33:06Speaker 00

  Yes, but this is different, because it doesn't have our DNA.

• 33:10Lewis Howes?

  Okay, let's just say you could.

• 33:11Speaker 00

  If I could change my DNA?

• 33:13Lewis Howes?

  No, let's say that you could create, you could create the relationship you want. You could create it. What would that be like for you? What would that look like?

• 33:24Speaker 00

  Some relationships will be long and some will be short.

• 33:26Lewis Howes?

  So multiple relationships.

• 33:28Speaker 00

  In my lifetime.

• 33:29Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 33:29Speaker 00

  Yes, in a lifetime, over a course of a lifetime.

• 33:31Lewis Howes?

  You're not looking for one woman to have an incredible relationship with for the whole life.

• 33:35Speaker 00

  Well, what I said, some could be long.

• 33:36Lewis Howes?

  Got you.

• 33:36Speaker 00

  So let's say tomorrow I meet a girl and all, and you know that it's meant to be. But you know what? All relationships are temporary because somebody dies before the other person.

• 33:47Lewis Howes?

  I get it.

• 33:47Speaker 00

  My grandma.

• 33:49Lewis Howes?

  But so you could have exactly what you want to do. What would that be?

• 33:52Speaker 00

  I think.

• 33:53Lewis Howes?

  Not like what it could be, but what do you want?

• 33:55Speaker 00

  Some long and some short.

• 33:56Lewis Howes?

  So you want multiple relationships.

• 33:58Speaker 00

  I think that's what I'm destined to have.

• 34:01Lewis Howes?

  Okay, but what do you want?

• 34:03Speaker 00

  I like, I want my destiny. No, but look, this is, here, let me give you an example.

• 34:09Lewis Howes?

  I understand.

• 34:10Speaker 00

  But let me give you an example.

• 34:11Lewis Howes?

  I want to know exactly what you want, not what you think.

• 34:13Speaker 00

  No, but I'm serious. I've trained myself to want my, what I think I'm built for. Let me give you an example.

• 34:18Lewis Howes?

  So you're not built for one person is what you're saying? Even if it's.

• 34:22Speaker 00

  Probably not.

• 34:23Lewis Howes?

  Okay, perfect.

• 34:24Speaker 00

  Probably not.

• 34:24Lewis Howes?

  Awesome, cool.

• 34:25Speaker 00

  This is a straight answer.

• 34:27Lewis Howes?

  I'm curious.

• 34:27Speaker 00

  Lewis is good at interviewing.

• 34:28Lewis Howes?

  Here's another question.

• 34:29Speaker 00

  He's gonna get the answer from me.

• 34:30Lewis Howes?

  Another question. Why, here's, if I'm being honest with you, I feel like you're avoiding a lot of the questions.

• 34:35Speaker 00

  No, I think.

• 34:36Lewis Howes?

  So I just want to make sure we're getting to.

• 34:37Speaker 00

  No, yeah, it's good.

• 34:38Lewis Howes?

  Your thoughts and your ideas and how you really feel.

• 34:40Speaker 00

  I, the reason you feel I'm avoiding, I think, is because I think some answers are hard.

• 34:48Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely, I think, here's why I want to do this interview.

• 34:50Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 34:50Lewis Howes?

  Because I think people want to hear what the real hard answers are to you. Because I feel like, from the responses I've been getting when I ask people what, I should ask you.

• 34:59Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 34:59Lewis Howes?

  Because they feel like you're not authentic.

• 35:01Speaker 00

  Right.

• 35:01Lewis Howes?

  They feel like you're not telling the truth. They feel like you're not, you're holding back, you're wearing something that's elusive. And you're acknowledging it, saying that you're waiting.

• 35:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:10Lewis Howes?

  You're not, you know, you're not revealing everything.

• 35:11Speaker 00

  Let me speak to that for one millisecond.

• 35:14Lewis Howes?

  And I get it because you want to be guarded in certain areas.

• 35:16Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, but I'm gonna tell you this. This is my advice to myself and other people.

• 35:20Lewis Howes?

  Okay, let's hear it.

• 35:21Speaker 00

  The thief will always be suspicious. So when I meet somebody suspicious of me, it's always a flag to get the hell away from them, not prove myself. If you are ever in a situation where you're dating someone, and on the first date, they look over to you and go. Nigel, I want to be clear, you ain't gonna cheat on me? If they bring that up, if that's in their consciousness, that suspicion level, they will cheat on you. Because only thieves are thinking about breaking it.

• 35:48Lewis Howes?

  Sure, but if someone is curious to ask you questions about your life because they want to get to know you, that's not a thief.

• 35:53Speaker 00

  No, but I've found, I, because I meet a lot of people. The people who meet, you meet, I meet, you meet, that are going, "You know, there's something, I don't feel authentic about you." I'm like, "Are you kidding?" I'm, who's more authentic than me?

• 36:09Lewis Howes?

  It's usually a reflection of what they're missing in themselves.

• 36:11Speaker 00

  Who has a camera on me? I'm like, guys, when somebody goes, "Is that really you?" I'm like, "I do 150 Snapchats a day." You think this is a hotel? Some people are brain dead. I'm like, "Who's more authentic than somebody that turns the camera on them all the time? In an unscripted format? I'm not the Kardashian, I'm not on a set with the producers editing thing." I mean, we can edit a little bit, but I'm on live Facebook, so. That's why I say, the reason, and I advise anybody, if you're getting a lot of people asking you, "I'm suspicious of these people," be careful of those people. The thief will steal from you eventually.

• 36:52Lewis Howes?

  Okay, next question. We are in Beverly Hills, this is, I'm assuming this is one of the nicest properties in the neighborhood. What do you got, 20 bedrooms?

• 37:02Speaker 00

  This place has 16. Now, there is a place.

• 37:05Lewis Howes?

  16 bedrooms?

• 37:06Speaker 00

  There's massive.

• 37:07Lewis Howes?

  Guest pools, guest homes.

• 37:09Speaker 00

  This is nothing.

• 37:11Lewis Howes?

  But it's nice.

• 37:11Speaker 00

  What's the place we went to, Lady Gaga, the place, Maya? Ron Berkel. This is Ron Berkel's bathroom.

• 37:19Lewis Howes?

  But this is still gorgeous.

• 37:21Speaker 00

  It is nicer, it is nice. I am very thankful.

• 37:25Lewis Howes?

  Volleyball court, basketball court, tennis court, MMA gym.

• 37:29Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 37:31Lewis Howes?

  What do you have, giraffes running around in the backyard? You've got a nice lifestyle. Let's say call it a luxurious lifestyle. Maybe not compared to Lady Gaga's people, but you're in 90210. One of the most, the richest wealthiest areas in the world.

• 37:44Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 37:46Lewis Howes?

  Probably top 10, right?

• 37:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, or maybe number one.

• 37:48Lewis Howes?

  I mean, number one.

• 37:49Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 37:50Lewis Howes?

  Now, what are the hard, what are the best and hardest parts? About the lifestyle that you've created and also display to your audience? Cause you put a lot of it on display.

• 38:00Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 38:00Lewis Howes?

  We were just walking around, you're showing your yard, you know, your cars, obviously the books, everything. But what's the best part and the hardest part about the lifestyle you just?

• 38:08Speaker 00

  I mean, the best part is

• 38:12Speaker 00

  specifically for this place is being able to live in a city, but feel a little bit like I'm in the countryside. Because I actually like farms. I lived 10 years on a farm. And so like this place has like grass, like I've lived in LA, I've lived in New York where I didn't have any money. When I first came to LA, actually from San Diego, when I first moved, I was born here, but left as a little kid. When I came back to LA, I could only afford, I decided I was going to live in Santa Monica. I thought that'd be nice. I didn't have much money. So I rented this temporary place that was like 250 square feet. So what's nice about this place is literally just having some space makes me feel more peaceful. And I think if you live in cities, I was just in New York, unknowingly your cortisol levels jump up.

• 38:57Speaker 00

  So, and the hardest part of living here, here's the thing for anybody that's successful, I will tell you. Tall poppy syndrome. Status is a bitch. I just read a fascinating article by Dr. David Buss, who may be one of the smartest guys to walk this planet in this century. And he said, he, he wrote about this, anytime you display status, men especially, women somewhat in their own, women more against women, but men against men, it becomes threatening to some men. And stuff like that. And so the biggest part is go, do I want to show that I have a Lamborghini? The first nice car that I got really, I got a Maserati in like. I don't remember, 2008 or something.

• 39:43Speaker 00

  From 2008, 2014, and I had a Ferrari after that. I never posted a picture. I posted one picture on my Facebook for six years. So when people think that I got cars to show off, I'm like, in six years, you look on my Facebook, it goes all the way back. And shows that you can see the picture. And so- So why I started showing it? So that's the good question. So why? I'll tell you why. I'm gonna just tell you now. There's not a person in history, or a government, that has more kids in the ghetto reading books than me.

• 40:16Speaker 00

  You can hate me all you want, around displaying stuff, but what are you doing for the world? That's tangible, that you can put your finger on. I've moved, I got more kids interested in reading, knowledge, mentors, probably than anybody in history.

• 40:34Speaker 00

  If I gotta show a Lamborghini for that, and you have a problem with that, go [bleep] and change the world on your own, dude. I don't give a shit. That's my honest thing. That's no mask. That's like, great. If you could've do it in some other way, you're way smarter than me. But if you can't do it, and you can only complain about how I did it, why don't you learn? Why don't you do your own version of it? If you wanna inspire people to rock climb, go do the equivalent of rock climbing. I'm showing people how to do, how to aspire to more. And you gotta be practical. You know what motivates people? I had this, my brother had a birthday party in my house. When I was walk, uh, when it was over, this guy walked up to me and said, "Man, I'm a school teacher.

• 41:17Speaker 00

  I'm a friend of your brother, and I just wanna tell you, the other day, this kid was walking around, and he's like, he's been a juvenile delinquent, in and out of jail, whole four years in high school. And I saw him carrying him some books on business." And I walked up, this is in the inner city of LA, like Compton. I'm from Long Beach, ghetto park. Said, I walked up a kid, and I said, to this guy, "Why are you reading this book? What is it? I've never seen you with a book." And the kid turned to me and said, "Ty Lopez said I'd get a Lamborghini if I read." Now, it's not actually what I say. But you see the inspiration there? It's your Trojan horse. Yeah. Brings people into the luxury. But it's actually, this is the thing. Some people would say, "Oh, so what you're saying is it's a white lie." It's not a white lie. That's how I [bleep] got a Lamborghini.

• 42:01Speaker 00

  I read books. My second mentor, Alan Nation, I was 20, on a farm. One morning in Joel Salatin's... Where was this? This is in Virginia, on a farm. I was mentoring on this guy named Joel Salatin, and his mentor, Alan Nation, came. First time I met him, and he can't, he was the most fascinating person I ever met. And I think at this point, he might have been a millionaire, but I never met a millionaire, dude, growing up. I don't think I ever met somebody who made more than 50 grand. My family was not dirt poor. They would have been had it not been for my grandma, but I grew up around people, my grand, my mom, single mom, where I made 20 grand a year. So, I had $200 for Christmas, growing up.

• 42:42Speaker 00

  Well, when I met this guy, Alan Nation, coming down the stairs, realized this guy's successful, talked to him, and he started quoting from this book. And I said, "How do you know so much about this book?" He goes, "Oh, I always read a book before breakfast." I said, "How do you remember?" He said, "Well, you gotta train." And that's why I learned to read a book a day. And from those books, if you read the right books, you get to collect and collate the knowledge of people who have spent a lifetime. And so, when I say, "What I like more than Lamborghini is these books." There is pure truth. Where would you be without reading books? Shh, oh, man. Trying to hunt down mentors in person, which I do now. See, now I don't, I do read now,

• 43:27Speaker 00

  but if I didn't choose to read, I could get away with it. Why? Because now I call the authors. You get the knowledge from the people, yeah. Yeah, but when I was, I lived in a mobile home in North Clayton, North Carolina.

• 43:38Lewis Howes?

  When was this?

• 43:39Speaker 00

  Growing up as a teenager. Okay, I, I, it was double wide, so we weren't super poor, but it was a fucking trailer. You think if I called up Dr. David Buss and said, "Will you talk to me an hour a week?" No, but I could buy his book. And I could, when I couldn't afford a book, I could go to the library. And so, to be able to, I mean, what America needs, here's the problem. The White House tries to do learning initiatives. Public schools try to do learning initiatives. Where you go to peop-, kids in the ghetto and you say, "Yo, read." No, it's not cool, it's not swagger. If you're in the ghetto, I grew up around all projects and stuff. I grew up in North Carolina, Long Beach, even San Diego where I was. So a lot of gang stuff.

• 44:21Speaker 00

  Kids are not gonna lose their swag and maybe get beat up and shot to look cool. But you know what? Now, the way I do it, millions of people aren't afraid of it. Because I still have swagger. And I do that. And so if I make learning, knowledge cool and some uppity entrepreneurs have a problem with it, I'm like, "Shit, you ain't, bring no fucking value. Come sit down with me. You don't know jack shit." And so I don't care about those people. There is, is of no consequence. And, you know, I often tell my employees, my, one of my companies, we kinda call it Knowledge Society. I say, "I want you to know, there, name a company more important than ours. Name it." Apple?

• 45:06Speaker 00

  No. Facebook? No. We are making millions of Einsteins, geniuses that in the past rotted in the ghetto. They're gonna be found now. And what that will do for civilization is important. So what we're doing is important. So underneath all of that stuff, which has an edge to it. And, but it's real edge. There's not one car in that garage that's ever been rented. There's nothing, everything people see is literally, and my camera guys are right here. We might set up a scene five seconds before, like, move the camera over there. But there's nothing like, "Okay, tomorrow, let's go..."

• 45:47Lewis Howes?

  Does it matter if it's rented or owned? Does it really matter?

• 45:50Speaker 00

  No, no, but I'm saying there's nothing, nah, if you rent a Lamborghini for a year, you'd be insane, cuz it'd be about a million dollars a year to rent. No, no, but what I'm saying is, there's nothing fake. This is my life. Yeah, well, I real estate here's my recommendation. I own lots of real estate. I lease some own some. My feelings on real estate in general are that we're in a bubble in different parts. Like I'm going into London. I'm gonna lease in London. London's gonna be. So if you're an entrepreneur for tax reasons, do what your CPA says. Sometimes you're gonna lease cars. Sometimes you're gonna buy them. Sometimes you're gonna lease property. Sometimes I do. Sometimes you can lease to own stuff.

• 46:35Lewis Howes?

  I'm curious about. So you grew up pretty poor. You had mentors. You lived on a farm. At one point, you lived with Amish people for two years. Where was that?

• 46:44Speaker 00

  That was I live in a little bit in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and then the longest in a group in Virginia.

• 46:49Lewis Howes?

  It's big in Ohio. I mean, I'm from Ohio. There's a lot of Amish people there. So you were there. Where in Ohio do you remember?

• 46:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was in Holmes County.

• 46:56Lewis Howes?

  Okay, cool.

• 46:57Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 46:58Lewis Howes?

  People with trailers and everything with little.

• 46:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, buggies. Yeah, you got homes and Wayne and all those counties. I know some of the language.

• 47:04Lewis Howes?

  Some good maple butter, man.

• 47:07Speaker 00

  You look like you. Are you German?

• 47:08Lewis Howes?

  German? No. Welsh and English.

• 47:10Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 47:11Lewis Howes?

  When did you make your first million dollars and how did you make it then?

• 47:16Speaker 00

  So after.

• 47:17Lewis Howes?

  How old were you?

• 47:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's I don't know that the it was.

• 47:24Speaker 00

  It's a good question. People have asked me. You know, one of the problems with me why sometimes people think that I'm lying about stuff. I have purposely built my brain to not care about like milestones. I'm so big on that because and I know other people like milestones and I respect that, but I'm really a person that tries not to think about the past so much. So I a lot of times that's why I'm like, when did I get the Maserati the first time? I'm like, ah, I don't remember the year.

• 47:57Speaker 00

  When were you working in a company? No, I was entrepreneur for sure. Okay. And um. Do you remember when you started this company? Oh, yeah, yeah. It was in my twenties. The first thing I did, um, so I went to work for Jeep. So my very first business was when I was five. I started tomato stand for one day. Didn't do so well. So I folded that business. Lemonade stand the next day. That did better. And then we live in such a retarded world because I was so entrepreneurial, I think, from birth. No one encouraged me to be an entrepreneur again until I was nineteen. So I wasted fourteen years of my life learning about isosceles triangles and stuff in the modern school system. You know, by the way, people that think there's frauds and scams in the world, anything that you think is a scam isn't a scam. Scam is something you don't know.

• 48:42Speaker 00

  It's a blind spot. Sometimes people go, Ty, is your sixty-seven step scam? I'm like, you want to know what a scam is? Go to the cafeteria at your school. This is a scam. You got Coca-Cola be given to seven year olds. They give them Ritalin. This is a scam, my friends, and you don't realize it. And so that's why it's a real scam. A real thief, you don't know he broke into your house. Anyway, um. So when? So nineteen, I started a business with Joel Salatin. I had a farm. I worked on his, I worked on his farm, sorry. And then I overheard him talking about a neighbor who wanted to rent a farm. And Joel was telling his wife, I don't have the time to do it. And I spoke up and I said, I will run this farm for you, Joel. And um. What kind of farm was this?

• 49:27Speaker 00

  It was a cattle farm. Yeah. And so, but I said, I have no money to buy the cows. It was just empty grass. Yes. And so Joel said, I'll tell you what, Ty. I'll put the money up. I don't remember how much it was, like thirty or fifty thousand to buy the cows. And at the end of the year, you do all the work, we'll split the money. And um. So I would wake up at five in the morning, work till six at night, and then I'd put a helmet flashlight, drive forty-five minutes to this farm, and work till like ten, four hours at that farm, then come home and sleep and do that seven days a week. I did that for a year.

• 50:01Lewis Howes?

  In your early twenties?

• 50:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think I was around nineteen for this.

• 50:04Lewis Howes?

  Nineteen, okay.

• 50:05Speaker 00

  And at the end of the year, we sold that cows, and I made twelve grand profit, which I thought was an incredible amount of money.

• 50:10Lewis Howes?

  You're rich.

• 50:11Speaker 00

  Oh, man. And I took that money, but what I did is I took that money and I traveled the world to find more mentors. And I actually ran out of money when I was in New Zealand, traveling and

• 50:21Lewis Howes?

  North Island or the south?

• 50:22Speaker 00

  I was in Christchurch in the south. So I had to shear sheep to save up enough money to get out of the

• 50:28Lewis Howes?

  It's beautiful there.

• 50:28Speaker 00

  But after that, so that was a small business. I'd say the first bigger business, when I came back to North Carolina, my mom was getting divorced again, and that was when I was sleeping on the couch. A lot of people have heard my story.

• 50:39Lewis Howes?

  Twenty-one years old now?

• 50:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, it might have been, yeah, around then.

• 50:44Lewis Howes?

  Did you go to college then, I'm assuming?

• 50:45Speaker 00

  So then I decided I'd try to go to college. I didn't have enough money. Went to NC State. I think I have about eight credit hours, probably somewhere at NC State. But I started a little consulting company, and I was working at like Starbucks or something, and I remember my first paycheck after two weeks was like a hundred and twenty dollars. And I was like, ooh, this isn't gonna help me very much. Tuition was like one thousand a month, and so I started this little consulting business, because I knew a lot about land from Joel Salton, helping people from other countries buy farms in America. And this guy said, "If you write me a one, uh, one paper on where I should buy land in America, I'll send you my normal consulting fee."

• 51:29Speaker 00

  So I did that, and he wired me like ten thousand dollars for a one-hour paper. And I was like, "I want to be an entrepreneur. This is much better. I make ten grand in an hour."

• 51:39Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 51:40Speaker 00

  So after that, I did that consulting business for a little while, and then I started, I worked for GE Capital. And then I spun off a company with a business partner named John Dwar. And I talked, I didn't have any much money then, and I talked him into putting in the first 50 grand. And we were 50 50 partners. He's still a friend and that company still exists. And so we managed money. It was a wealth management company. So that was the first time, that was the first, that business. Yeah, I started getting in six figures. And then I was in the nightclub and ran a lot of nightclubs. So I had two things going. I'm a big fan for people.

• 52:15Lewis Howes?

  In North Carolina?

• 52:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I was pretty big. I would get a thousand, 2,000 people. And that's when I started really making money.

• 52:21Lewis Howes?

  Okay, in the nightclub and in the wealth management business, early twenties.

• 52:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, and then that went on till about, yeah, mid to late twenties.

• 52:32Lewis Howes?

  Do you have a number or amount you're trying to earn?

• 52:35Speaker 00

  You know, I go back and forth on that. Sometimes I'm like, I don't care. Uh, I'll tell you this, here's my number that I know that I have. I'm interested, because now I'm starting businesses or investing. I'm interested only in things that can do 100 million or more or revenue. They don't have to start there.

• 52:54Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 52:55Speaker 00

  I believe, I call it the rule of 10. So for anybody watching, if you're not an entrepreneur, start out trying to make 100 bucks a month. You can do it while you're doing your full-time job. Part-time, make 100 bucks from an entrepreneur venture. Then, once you do that, figure out how to make a thousand. Then, once you do a thousand a month, figure out how to make 10,000, then 100,000, then a million a month. And then you just go up. So I'm at the point, and you don't go backwards. Once you figure out how to make 10,000 a month, don't launch a business that's going to make 5,000. Then you, and so now I'm at the place where, you know, I want to do things that can do nine figures. If I can hit that, then you try to go after 10 figures.

• 53:34Lewis Howes?

  What would that, what would that figure mean to you?

• 53:37Speaker 00

  I would only do it if it's a business that I think is valuable. I see so many businesses that make people a billion dollars that are like not, some of them are harmful for the world. I, I try to stick with, I've always done businesses that it may be night, even when I did nightclubs, I was not involved in the alcohol side. So the restaurant did all, I never made a penny in my life from alcohol. Even though people were coming to club and drinking, but I, I wouldn't want to try, I would not make a billion dollars by launching a cigarette company or something like that.

• 54:11Lewis Howes?

  I mean, what would the money mean to you once you hit that number?

• 54:15Speaker 00

  More adventure, man. That's it. For me, if it's like more freedom. So let's say you make a billion dollars. To me, it'd be like adventure time would accelerate. Like now I have adventure, somebody came to me and go, "Yo Ty, I've got this badass idea for a new health food supplement." I'd be like, "Well, you got a billion dollars." Now you'd be like, "Here's a million bucks. Go, let's see if we can make an adventure happen here." So for me, it would just be like all lifestyle related.

• 54:44Lewis Howes?

  Don't you feel like you have a good lifestyle already?

• 54:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I said. I'm not, I go back and forth. There's a part of me that's super like, "Oh, you gotta make a billion dollars. You gotta make eh, you gotta make a hundred million."

• 54:55Lewis Howes?

  Do you not feel satisfied with the amount you've already made?

• 54:57Speaker 00

  I do. I, I, I do.

• 54:59Lewis Howes?

  Why go for more then if you've already hit and?

• 55:00Speaker 00

  I'm not. I'm only going for more adventure. And if the adventure turns into money, then I'll be happy.

• 55:07Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 55:07Speaker 00

  No, I, I honestly believe, man, that here's, there was a guy here speaking to the commanders. I was sitting in the commanders, much wealthier than me here. And, and I, I think the, I have a chef and the chef brought me food. And he said, "Why you waste money on all this stuff?" I said, "Well, all the money in the world doesn't matter if you don't know how to spend it. And I have a better life than you and you know it." And I, it was between two friends. I wasn't cocky. And he laughed because on this street here in Beverly Hills, there's a lot of people just trying to build money and tally it up. I've never been that way. So my goal is in to have this, but my, I like to have a chef because I suck at cooking. And the food you eat is a number one predictor of your health.

• 55:52Speaker 00

  You know that as a pro athlete, even more than working out. You can work out till the cows come home. If you eat shitty, you fall apart, period. So to me, I think he's crazy for being a billionaire level guy and not having a chef. I'm like, you cooking subquat, why wouldn't you want the best, man? What's all that money gonna, like Steve Jobs said, don't want to be the richest man in the graveyard.

• 56:15Lewis Howes?

  That's true, you don't want to be. Um, a few questions left for you.

• 56:18Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 56:19Lewis Howes?

  Here's one, um, what do you think of people like Warren Buffett, who live in the same small house he bought many years ago?

• 56:25Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 56:25Lewis Howes?

  Obviously, there's people out there with tons of money who don't live a flashy lifestyle.

• 56:29Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 56:30Lewis Howes?

  And what's your take on that? Someone like that who doesn't have to, you know, or that doesn't, you know, put it out there.

• 56:35Speaker 00

  I think, so I think that, um, I'm an extrovert and Warren Buffett, a little bit is extrovert, but not really. He's more of an introvert. He, he says he likes to lock himself in his office eight hours a day. That's more introverted. And so when you're an introvert, a lot of what I do, the stuff you see, like a big house here.

• 56:55Lewis Howes?

  Yep.

• 56:56Speaker 00

  Last month, I threw a party, 490 people came. Uh, this house lets me be social. I got a basketball court, we play, you're good at basketball. I've got a dojo here, I can have 20 top Brazilian Jiu Jitsu people come here. So for me, if getting a small house would be a waste of life for me. But for somebody who's introverted, who doesn't want that, and I strongly believe that about half the world is extrovert and half the world is introvert, you must know yourself. If you're an introvert, then you want to use your money in much different ways.

• 57:35Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. Okay.

• 57:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:38Lewis Howes?

  What's something that people don't, who don't have money wrongly assume about money and wealth?

• 57:45Speaker 00

  Uh, that it's poisonous or something. I, it, it, there's been a lot of research on unhappy people who get wealthier, don't get more unhappy, or more happy. You, your happiness isn't changed, but I will tell you, not having enough money is very stressful.

• 58:06Lewis Howes?

  Having a lot of money can also be stressful for a lot of people, more stressful.

• 58:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know if it's more stressful, I think you.

• 58:12Lewis Howes?

  The fear of losing it, the fear of people taking advantage, the fear of.

• 58:16Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah, you've made a lot of money, so you know, you're probably like me, both sides of the coin. I, I think though that there's a myth, because, and some of it's Judeo-Christian, that money is the root of all evil. Eh, I think if you look at the statistics, money is the root of all, a lack of money is root of all evil. If you wanna look where the most kids, if you think, you know, what is evil? Well, how about millions of kids starving to death? This only happens in poor countries. Where are women exploited? Mostly, I, the wealthiest country in the world, one of them is Norway. I was just in Norway. There's no strip clubs in Norway, there's zero porn produced there, because women are as rich as guys, so they ain't gonna do that.

• 58:56Speaker 00

  So the real thing is the lack of money and resources that is the root of all evil. And people who become crazy once they get money, mark my words. If you had met them 10 years before, they were probably crazy too. Warren Buffett was a cool cat before, Bill Gates was cool before.

• 59:14Lewis Howes?

  There's a lot of crooks who have money too, who are corrupt and.

• 59:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I said, it's an, it's more neutral on that. Yeah, it gives you more, yes.

• 59:22Lewis Howes?

  It enhances who you are.

• 59:23Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 59:24Lewis Howes?

  If you're a good person, you're gonna be more good, if you're a bad person, you'll be more bad.

• 59:27Speaker 00

  And I'll tell you, here's a little thing that's been interesting. Um, one of the coolest things about my lifestyle now is to get to meet a lot of interesting people, like you Louis and, uh, not too long ago, last month, I was, um, we got to, me and Arnold Schwarzenegger, I was at his house, got to chill with him for an hour in his kitchen, just talking. And all kinds of interesting people in this last year. From, you know, billionaires to like Rihanna type, Rihanna and stuff like that. And here's the thing, because some people think it's name dropping, it's not name dropping. The interesting thing is that the people at the top are cooler.

• 1:00:07Speaker 00

  They're nicer. It's the mid-level people you have to watch out for. So, one of the main reasons, and I didn't get, going into being successful, this was not on my radar, but it's on my radar now. If I wanted to become a billionaire, which I vacillate back and forth between really caring about, I can tell you why. I actually thought about this today. I was reading, listening to Kevin Systrom talk, and I was like, this dude's damn interesting. And I was like, maybe I should become, try to become a billionaire, because he'd hang out with me if I was a billionaire. Not because billionaires are looking down, but you need, billionaires have to protect themselves a little bit.

• 1:00:46Speaker 00

  So, I think for somebody, one of the myths is that you don't want to become successful because it poisons your social circle. No, the worst social circle is at the mid-tier. That's annoying. Like, if you work at a company, it's the mid-management that sucks. Usually, the founder of the business, interesting. It's a risk-taker. It's a smart person. People on this block are interesting. The other day, I heard a funny story. I did this party, and all these influencers came. It was an influencer party. I sent a bottle of wine. We sent to everybody, saying, "Sorry, it's gonna be loud here. I'm having a party." And only one neighbor wrote back. Okay? And we got, so we have the letter somewhere. And I opened the letter, and it said,

• 1:01:29Speaker 00

  "Ty, it's your place. Do whatever you want. Have a loud party. I hope you have fun. Signed, Kirk Douglas." See, the people at the top, Kirk Douglas. He's the coolest guy of all of them. He sees the world clearly with the least, that's why he became Kirk Douglas. And there are some people at the top that are crazy. You know, Bill Clinton FaceTimed me. Uh, what was it, a couple of weeks ago? I was driving. My, I said, "Pull over." I got FaceTimed. My was with Bill Clinton in Vegas. And so, he FaceTimed me. And I'm talking to him. Just a short little thing, we're talking about his favorite books. It was the most interesting short interview I ever had.

• 1:02:10Speaker 00

  Cause it's Bill Clinton, you don't get to be two-time president and be a moron, or usually not. I don't know about our current political atmosphere.

• 1:02:19Lewis Howes?

  What is, um, let's just say hypothetical, that you only had a hundred thousand dollars a year.

• 1:02:25Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:02:26Lewis Howes?

  Income, how much you were gonna make every year, it was just like, you were forced to only have a hundred thousand, you couldn't make anymore.

• 1:02:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:33Lewis Howes?

  For whatever reasons, will something happen in the world, that's all you could have.

• 1:02:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:37Lewis Howes?

  What would you do with that money?

• 1:02:38Speaker 00

  Dude, I would try to set up my life exactly how I have now. I wouldn't be able to do it exactly, but I, I would try, like, my lifestyle, sometimes I'm like, don't mess it up, Ty. And, and, and it doesn't take as much, like, I spend, you know, I spend now a hundred thousand dollars a month on mentors a month. Traveling to them, doing stuff, you know, whatever related, and so, I would scale everything back, but I would keep every element that I would literally do my best, so for example, where you can take the last 24 hours, what did I do in the last 24 hours? I had jujitsu with Higa Machado, well, I can afford now to pay them to come private, I would just go to the gym.

• 1:03:21Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 1:03:22Speaker 00

  But I would keep jujitsu in my life. I have a, you know, a weight trainer, I like, I play basketball, I would go to the park. I have, I went out, we went out to a comedy club last night. You can afford, if you make a hundred grand, you can afford to go to comedy, improv's ten bucks a ticket.

• 1:03:37Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 1:03:38Speaker 00

  I brought a lot of people and bought everybody food, I would just make everybody pay for their own.

• 1:03:42Lewis Howes?

  Right, of course.

• 1:03:43Speaker 00

  But I'm saying, that's the litmus test that I think we should all hold ourselves to. And, and, let me just say this last thing, cause this speaks to your concept of masks. There's a great, I forget who did this science study, but there's two ways you can consume as a person making money. There's conspicuous consumption and, and inconspicuous, and conspicuous is what makes you unhappy, so.

• 1:04:08Speaker 00

  I don't have any nice watches, okay? And some of my friends are like, "You should have a Rolex, because if you are successful, you need to show that." Well, I don't really care about watches, never did. So if I bought a watch, for me, it would be what's called conspicuous, me trying to show off.

• 1:04:24Lewis Howes?

  Inauthentic.

• 1:04:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, so I don't do it.

• 1:04:27Lewis Howes?

  You like the cars.

• 1:04:28Speaker 00

  But I'll tell you this, yeah, if the world ended and there wasn't one human on the planet, just like that Will Smith, what was that Will Smith movie?

• 1:04:34Lewis Howes?

  Legend or something.

• 1:04:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm Legend? He went and got a Mustang, well, that was product placement. I would go straight to the Lambo dealership and turn that bad boy on to have myself a Lambo alone on the planet.

• 1:04:45Lewis Howes?

  Why?

• 1:04:46Speaker 00

  Have you ever driven a Lambo?

• 1:04:48Lewis Howes?

  No.

• 1:04:48Speaker 00

  Oh, you need to drive one. You drive it once, if you like power, it's just, there's nothing like, I drove a Bugatti, I know the CEO of Bugatti, he let me drive one. Oh, this thing, that one is actually too fast, so Lambo's perfect, you don't need 1,400 horsepower. But my point is, that's inconspicuous.

• 1:05:09Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 1:05:10Speaker 00

  I would try, if I made a hundred grand, yeah, if I made a hundred grand a year, I wouldn't be able to live here, but I would live in a house that had these elements, I'd make sure it had...

• 1:05:20Lewis Howes?

  Live in the guest house of someone who has...

• 1:05:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, or I would move back to North Carolina, where for a hundred grand income, you might be, oh, for a hundred grand income, you could have a backyard this big, you could have, you could pour, you know what I did when we were poor growing up? All right, middle class, my mom got remarried, so as I got older, there was another source of income. My stepdad worked at a post office, he wasn't rich, but we had this little, we had a house, 2,000 square foot house, whatever, and there was woods in the background, and for Christmas, he convinced the neighbor, he didn't have much money, to get a Bobcat, you know, a little piece of equipment, and knock 20 trees down, and then pack down the dirt, and then they poured, we poured cement, and I had a basketball, full court basketball.

• 1:06:05Speaker 00

  We could only afford one light, so you could only see at night, the light would point one way. So, and that, so that whole court was built for $0, the neighbor did it. So if I only had a hundred grand, I'd be like, "How can I get my free basketball court?"

• 1:06:17Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure, sure, okay, couple final questions, I appreciate all the insights.

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  Oh, thanks for being open. Putting up with my, my, what is it, I'm closed, I guess.

• 1:06:28Lewis Howes?

  What are you most grateful for in your life recently?

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  I read a book on luck and anybody who's successful should thank God for all the luck you've had. And you could have been born and you could have been born with a disease. So I try to, that's why I say I try not to go, people go, do you think you're successful? I'm like, I try to not even entertain those thoughts. I try not to go, I'm successful, I'm not successful. There's that great poem by Rudyard Kipling called "If", and it says, you know, if you can meet triumph and disaster and treat those imposters both the same. To think of your life as triumphant or disastrous is to waste your life. So for me, I'm just grateful that I'm moving forward. That's what I want to do.

• 1:07:17Speaker 00

  As long as I'm moving forward, I'm grateful and I'm grateful that I'm healthy, that good people around me and stuff like that. So I'm grateful for it all, man.

• 1:07:27Lewis Howes?

  What's the, I feel like we could all be better human beings. There's always a way to become better. So what's something you feel like you could be better at to be a better human being?

• 1:07:37Speaker 00

  Probably more patient. What do you say? My cousin there is smiling. Yeah, my friend has that band company where you put like a band reminder around you. Yeah, my intent. So mine said patience. Here's how I think about doing good. I came up with this simple agreement with myself, which was I called the 50/50 rule. I've tried to live where you live 100% for others in the world and you just lose motivation because we're inherently somewhat selfish. So I try to live my life 50/50. So I go 50% of my life I live selfishly. Like if I want a Lamborghini, I'm gonna do that. But I have to counterbalance my selfishness with 50/50. I've tried every variation. I've tried to live 100% for myself,

• 1:08:21Speaker 00

  where you're like, get everybody, no, don't worry about anybody else. And I've tried to live the other way and that 50/50, ever since I stumbled upon that thought, has been one of the big breakthroughs in my life.

• 1:08:33Lewis Howes?

  How much would you say you donate a year to charities or things that you value?

• 1:08:37Speaker 00

  See, this is something I'm not, see, not, just to be fair. I am secretive about some things that you think I should tell.

• 1:08:45Lewis Howes?

  I don't think you should or shouldn't, I'm just kidding.

• 1:08:47Speaker 00

  No, but about age, but I'm also secretive on how much money I give because I feel like if I say then I'm giving money for the wrong reasons. I'm giving money to show off. But I will tell-

• 1:09:00Lewis Howes?

  Or if you look at it as an inspiration, look how much he gives.

• 1:09:02Speaker 00

  Yes, which it's funny you say that, so-

• 1:09:03Lewis Howes?

  I look at it from a positive standpoint, as opposed to-

• 1:09:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'll say, I'll say this, there's one thing on public record, because I did a matching thing. So you had to know how much I gave. So Heifer Project, which is one of the biggest charities in the world, I did a million dollar matching, so I gave a million, right, Mike? And we matched. Yeah, so that was a couple, but I do more than that. My goal, right now, I'm giving away a million dollars worth of stuff to followers. Obviously, that has some help because it helps my social media, but I, but-

• 1:09:35Lewis Howes?

  How important is giving financially to charities or things you believe in?

• 1:09:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, super important. I think-

• 1:09:41Lewis Howes?

  You think we all should do that?

• 1:09:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I mean, ideally, I know it's crazy, I think you should do that 50/50 rule. I think you can give away, even the US tax code, you can give, you can deduct up to 50% of your AGI, your adjusted gross income for charity. So I think a good goal, I'm not quite there yet, but I think if I could set up my life, if you make 10 million bucks, if you make 1 million bucks, if you make 100,000, give half away. It's tough, but it'd be a cool life, it'd be another adventure to test. So that's the, I'm not sure how far away I am from the goal, but maybe that's a good goal.

• 1:10:21Lewis Howes?

  What do you want your epitaph to say?

• 1:10:25Speaker 00

  He was a mad scientist, and, and some of the stuff he said was important. How about that?

• 1:10:32Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 1:10:34Speaker 00

  Not all of it's important. You can ignore about 90% of the stuff I say. Every once in a while, I'm winning by sheer volume of ideas.

• 1:10:43Lewis Howes?

  Where, before I ask the final question, where can we connect with you online?

• 1:10:48Speaker 00

  Uh, probably, you know, a good place is Snapchat. If you're not using Snapchat, if you're older or younger, use Snapchat. It's a fascinating, um, tool. And of course Instagram now has Insta stories. So it's @TyLopez for both Instagram and Snapchat. Um, if you want to get my book summaries, you can just go to TyLopez.com. I've got a book of the day email there. I think I got the biggest book club in the world. I did a TED Talk, my TED, or a TEDx Talk. I think it's gonna be top four of all time. Right now, it's top 12.

• 1:11:24Speaker 00

  But, yeah.

• 1:11:25Lewis Howes?

  And what are you most proud of that you've done in your life?

• 1:11:29Speaker 00

  Ah, most proud of? Like, single thing that I did?

• 1:11:34Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 1:11:38Speaker 00

  I just got my blue belt in jujitsu.

• 1:11:41Speaker 00

  I was kinda proud. I was about as most proud of myself I've been in a while. Jujitsu's a bitch if you haven't done it, so... If you meet somebody who's a black belt in jujitsu, yeah, if I can, if I can keep getting belts in jujitsu, I think that's about as proud as I'll be.

• 1:11:57Lewis Howes?

  Okay, alright.

• 1:11:59Speaker 00

  Oh no, I got one more.

• 1:12:00Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 1:12:01Speaker 00

  Played Chris Paul on horse. Got into a damn standstill. He had to play for two hours.

• 1:12:07Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:12:08Speaker 00

  Anything basketball related? If you look on my Instagram, I nailed a shot on Meta World Peace, right on who was NBA Defensive Player of the Year. So, all that kinda stuff is... That's where I'm the cockiest, on the basketball court. I grew up playing basketball in the projects. That's where my true, uh, cocky side comes out.

• 1:12:26Lewis Howes?

  I'll have to complain sometimes.

• 1:12:27Speaker 00

  You're good. He's good. We'll have to play.

• 1:12:31Lewis Howes?

  Before I ask the final question, I want to acknowledge you, Ty, for, for opening up. For sharing some more things that I don't feel like you've shared before. And for, uh, doing a lot of good with what you're doing. I feel like by, by showing the lifestyle, I think a lot of people have the misconception that you're egotistical, or cocky, or who knows? But I think after listening to you, knowing that your mission is to inspire the youth who... Aren't educated to read more books so they can potentially have a better life, whether that's this lifestyle or just a better life for themselves.

• 1:13:00Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:13:01Lewis Howes?

  I think that's some great stuff you're doing. Somebody acknowledge you for that.

• 1:13:03Speaker 00

  Well, thanks. I wanna thank you. It was a good interview. You're good at this.

• 1:13:07Lewis Howes?

  Thanks, man.

• 1:13:08Speaker 00

  You should make a podcast, man. And you should teach people how to do this, cuz you know how to do it.

• 1:13:13Lewis Howes?

  So at the end of the day, many, many years from now, it's your last day. And everything you've ever created has been erased.

• 1:13:20Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:13:20Lewis Howes?

  But you get a piece of paper and a pen to write down the three things you know to be true about your life, your experience in life that you would pass on. That's only what people would remember you by, those three things.

• 1:13:29Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:13:30Lewis Howes?

  What would be your three truths?

• 1:13:33Speaker 00

  So number one, be aware. Remove the delusion in your life. And I was explaining that if you meet somebody who's more successful than you and your ego wants to go, this person's a jerk. Look clearly. Be aware. Are they really a jerk? Or maybe they know something you don't know. So that'd be number one. Be aware. Number two,

• 1:14:00Speaker 00

  you only learn from mistakes, but they don't have to be yours. That's what Warren Buffett said. So learn. The reason I read, the reason I believe in mentors, is I can shorten the path by letting them make the mistake and then just tell me, "Oh, Ty, don't put your hand on the stove." Okay, I never have to do that. And then the third one, I would say is this 50/50 rule. Don't completely live for others and don't completely live for yourself. If you live too much for others, you'll lose motivation, cuz we're a little bit selfish. And we need to be a little selfish. But if you only live for yourself, you become disconnected from humanity.

• 1:14:38Lewis Howes?

  Last question. What's your definition of greatness?

• 1:14:41Speaker 00

  Definition of greatness?

• 1:14:44Speaker 00

  I think on everybody's grave, it should be able to say, "It was important you were here." In some way. We're not all gonna be, "I can't be Einstein. He was important." But you lose track of that, you, I think you'll lose meaning in life. And so, some people are gonna be, but you gotta be important. And, and the sad thing is, A lot of people, not only they're not important, but they're detrimental to the world. The world would be better off if they weren't there. And so whether you're a parent and stay-at-home mom, stay-at-home dad, be important so that someday somebody looks back and goes, "Thank God, that person was here." I like that. Awesome. Ty, thanks for coming on, man. Thanks so much, man.

• 1:15:27Lewis Howes?

  There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. What did you think? Did I fail you as bad as I felt like I did? By not really getting to open him up in the ways that I wanted to and have him answer the certain questions that I asked? Do you feel like he went around the questions too much? Or did you feel like, wow, I'm surprised that Ty even opened up that much based on what you knew about him? Let me know what you think again in the comment section below. And I'd be glad to go back and do another follow-up interview as I think Ty really enjoyed connecting and opening up and in the way that he was comfortable with. And if you want me to learn more about him, then make sure to let Ty know over on Twitter or on Instagram and say, "Hey, I appreciate you opening up on Lewis's podcast."

• 1:16:11Lewis Howes?

  And make sure to go back on and open up even more because you guys want to learn the strategies on how he's got there and why he's doing it. So, lewishouse.com/370. Make sure to share this episode out with your friends or share it over on YouTube. Guys, so many people are coming up to me or leaving comments on the YouTube channel saying, "Man, I didn't know you had a YouTube channel. It's amazing." You know, we have tons of video interviews there. Got over 71,000 subscribers now. Let's get up to 100,000 quickly. So many people are loving it over there. We've got some videos with 400,000 views. So make sure to check it out. We put a lot of hard work into our video production. Tiff Tyler on the team is an incredible videographer and editor. So make sure to give the YouTube channel some love. That's youtube.com/lewishouse.

• 1:16:54Lewis Howes?

  As always, guys, I appreciate all the support, all the love, all the feedback, all the comments, all the likes, the shares, all the things that you do to support the School of Greatness podcast. It wouldn't be this big and this powerful without you. So thank you for all the love. And you know what time it is. It's time to go out there and do something great.