S3 Ep327: Man Gives Sedative-Laced Candy to Kids & Matt Rife Buys ‘The Conjuring' House

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• 0:14Derrick Levasseur?

  Hey everyone, welcome back to Crime Weekly News. I'm Derrick Levasseur.

• 0:17Stephanie Harlowe?

  And I'm Stephanie Harlow.

• 0:19Derrick Levasseur?

  And today, we're gonna start with a story that is frightening. It didn't happen in this country, but still something we all need to be aware of, especially if you have children. And that's part of what Crime Weekly News is to, you know, bolos, be on the lookout for certain people who are on the run, or just cases that could happen anywhere, that we all have to be more cognizant of and, and, and understand that it can happen right in your own backyard. And speaking of backyard, our second story that we're gonna talk about is something a little bit on the lighter note, but something close to Stephanie's heart, and it literally is in my backyard.

• 0:52Stephanie Harlowe?

  And we've taught, we talked about it a few years ago.

• 0:54Derrick Levasseur?

  You're, you're feeling a little bit of FOMO right now, and we're gonna get to that.

• 0:57Stephanie Harlowe?

  I am, because it's your fault.

• 1:00Derrick Levasseur?

  That's not wrong.

• 1:00Stephanie Harlowe?

  We're gonna get to it.

• 1:01Derrick Levasseur?

  That's not wrong. But we'll start with the more serious note first, because this is something that as a dad myself, I hate reading these stories, but I also am glad that the news is out there and exists, because even as a former police officer, I'm still learning every day, and I wanna learn the, the, the actions and the behaviors of these psychos to understand how to better protect the people I care about. So, the unfortunate side is that it's happening. The positive is that we can take it and we can learn from it and better protect those that are close to us, because you can kinda see the mannerisms, you can see the behaviors, you can see the tactics that are being used. And as the, you know, the defensive side of things, we can take measures to prevent it from happening to the people we care about, or at least just take an extra precaution or two if we

• 1:46Derrick Levasseur?

  do find ourselves in a similar situation. So, hit us with the story and then we'll talk about it.

• 1:52Stephanie Harlowe?

  This happened in England, Leicester, to be specific, and trust me, I learned my lesson.

• 1:57Derrick Levasseur?

  About saying it wrong?

• 1:58Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, and, and like, I feel like eight years ago, I did a Madeleine McCann series, and I pronounced it Lychester, cuz... That's how it's spelled. And I still to this day get comments of people saying it's Leicester, not Lychester. And I'm like, yeah, it's been almost 10 years. You don't think anybody's told me that by now? I get it. I learned my lesson.

• 2:18Derrick Levasseur?

  We have a couple. Spokane was a big one, I think, for us. We said Spokane or whatever it was.

• 2:23Stephanie Harlowe?

  Spokane, yeah.

• 2:24Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, that one, that one came back to bite us in the ass as well.

• 2:26Stephanie Harlowe?

  Well, this is a man, a 76-year-old man, John Rubin, who was arrested for allegedly giving boys at a summer camp candy laced with a sedative. This happened about 120 miles north of London. There were eight boys between the ages of eight and 11, and one adult who were taken to the hospital as a precaution. They were all later discharged. So luckily, no fatalities, but we, we don't really know what happened here. Now Rubin, John Rubin, his home address is about 15 miles away from that lodge. So he's now facing three charges of willfully assaulting, ill-treating, neglecting, abandoning, or exposing children in a manner likely to cause them unnecessary suffering or injury to health, relating to three boys at the camp.

• 3:10Stephanie Harlowe?

  It's very strange because we don't really know what his motive was. We don't know why he was doing this. We don't even know how he was able to access these children in order to give them these candies. It doesn't say that he worked at this camp. It doesn't say that he really had anything to do with it. Now, that could be the case. They just haven't released that. We want to talk about it because it is that time of year

• 3:35Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah.

• 3:35Stephanie Harlowe?

  where our kids are out of school and sometimes parents are sending kids to camps, whether it's a day camp or whether it's, you know, you're going for the whole summer, you're going for several weeks. We are entrusting our children into the care of people who, let's be honest, we really don't know. We can look at reviews. We can vet the camp and the people that work there as much as possible. But it's not always going to stop something nefarious or bad from happening.

• 4:03Derrick Levasseur?

  That's right.

• 4:03Stephanie Harlowe?

  It's we we can't, you know, if you send your kids off to places like this, even when you send them to school, we see these stories all the time where you have teachers molesting or abusing children. We can't control everything when our children are are kind of out of our our reach, out of our eyesight.

• 4:21Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah.

• 4:21Stephanie Harlowe?

  So we wanted to really use this as sort of a cautionary, like, hey, if you're sending your kids to school, if you're sending them to camps, if they're out of your protection and your custody for an extended period of time, what might you kind of be on the lookout for? What might you want to be looking at for red flags or warning signs?

• 4:42Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, I this is a parenting approach that some of you may not agree with, but it's one that I implement and I'm learning as I go. It's not like I've done this before. But I'm very transparent and open with my daughters, especially now my youngest is nine. So she's still very young, but also aware, cognizant enough of like what's going on around her and understands that there are bad people out there. And yes, everything to you that you just said is 100% true. You you could never just assume that everybody has been vetted properly and that all the people that are around your children are good people because.

• 5:17Stephanie Harlowe?

  Or even if they have been vetted properly.

• 5:19Derrick Levasseur?

  They could they could change over time or they just hit it.

• 5:21Stephanie Harlowe?

  Or they could they could have hidden it. Yeah.

• 5:22Derrick Levasseur?

  So you just have to you have to assume that there could be someone who slipped through the cracks. However, there's only so much you can do because you're not there 24/7. That's the sad reality of it. I think in the world we live in now, a lot of us would homeschool our kids if we could, but it's just not it's not possible for most of us. We got to work. So I talk to my daughters about things like this, maybe not in detail, but like a story like this. I'm going to talk to them about it because I want them to be aware that these things can happen. And if they go to school a little nervous, I'm OK with that because I think a lot of times the kids aren't nervous enough. And I know some people, like I said, won't agree with that approach. You want them to be happy and have a good time and not be traumatized and.

• 6:05Derrick Levasseur?

  I approach it differently with them than I'm talking to you guys. There's a little bit more of a sugar coating on it, if you will, but I still tell them, especially around Halloween time, that there are people out there that want to hurt you and daddy tries his best to protect you from them. But sometimes all you gotta do is just keep your ears open and your eyes wide and you will see it yourself. So if you see someone at school, at camp, or at softball practice, or at gymnastics, or dance, whatever it might be, and something doesn't seem right, even if you don't feel comfortable telling the teacher, tell daddy or mommy, let them know, and we will look into it. But it's okay to say something. You're not going to get anybody in trouble. If someone says something to you that doesn't seem appropriate, or whatever,

• 6:49Derrick Levasseur?

  let us know. Because that little thing could not only protect them, but protect another child that's attending that same program. And so I have a very good relationship with them and they're kind of like my extensions. They're my little detectives. And I think we can build a network of, you know, you're not going to do this with three or four year olds, but with, you know, 10, 11, 12 years old, where if all the kids are being educated at home by their parents to know that people exist like this in society, then they can also serve as little receptors for us, little triggers, right? Like little sensors inside the school where these actual scumbags who think that the kids are naive to everything, if they're being taught at home that these things occur, they can actually be the first line of defense, where

• 7:34Derrick Levasseur?

  they're reporting back to their parents, and then the parents are doing what they need to do. So I think having these conversations are always difficult, but also very necessary.

• 7:42Stephanie Harlowe?

  It is difficult. And this goes for something like, so for instance, I saw a Tik Tok a few days ago, or maybe yesterday, I can't remember. I can't remember. I have time blindness now, but it was a woman who was saying, hey, she was sitting next to her eight or nine year old son. He was playing Roblox. Roblox is something we're all familiar with if you're a parent and your child has access to a phone or a tablet. And she was like, I was stunned. All this inappropriate stuff was happening. There's a 23 year old man talking to a 10 year old girl, you know, telling her that he thought she was hot and he would date her. He doesn't care how old she is. There's like, These, um, what the characters, I don't know, the avatars were able to like take their clothes off and like do things and, and it really stuck with me and I immediately talked to Bella about

• 8:25Stephanie Harlowe?

  it because she has a tablet. She's on it when I'm around, but I don't, I'm not sitting right next to her all of the time. Obviously I'm up cooking dinner or whatever. So I told her like, hey, does this kind of stuff happen on Roblox when you're playing? And she was like, no, no. And I was like, well, if it does, or if someone says something inappropriate to you, you have to let me know. You're not going to get in trouble, but that's not right. You have to like let them know. It's unfortunate because if they haven't been exposed to that on Roblox yet, you almost don't want to like introduce it because now you don't want them to even know.

• 8:56Derrick Levasseur?

  That that exists. Yeah, you're trying to keep them in a cocoon.

• 8:59Stephanie Harlowe?

  But you have to because they're so young and they can be so easily groomed and so easily led to believe this is, this is normal. Cause I think the 23 year old guy said to the, the little girl like, oh, what does age have to do? It's about your beauty. It's like, you're looking at an avatar, you creep, you idiot creep. So yeah, it's like they'll, they'll especially, you know, your kid's off on summer vacation. They're not around their friends anymore. Maybe they're looking, you know, to, to have a new friend or whatever. It's just very dangerous. So you have to unfortunately in this society in the world where we live, you have to make even young kids aware of what is out there that could be potentially nefarious for them. And it's a hard conversation and it sucks and you want to try to maintain their innocence and keep

• 9:44Stephanie Harlowe?

  them safe at the same time. And you have to find that balance.

• 9:46Derrick Levasseur?

  It's a great, it's a great way to summarize it. And, and I will say even an example I just had, I was telling Tenley, you know, there's a lot of scams going around right now where you're getting notifications on your phone via text message from USPS or UPS. And they're saying, hey, your package from Amazon wasn't delivered. Click this link and you know, we'll, we'll resend it to you. And Tenley has me buy a lot of stuff around Amazon. So I had a conversation with her. I said, hey, if you start getting these text messages. Don't click them. And so like a couple of weeks ago, she, she, uh, she, she comes up to me. She goes, hey, I started getting those things, but don't worry. I just reported them as junk, but she felt informed. She felt like she was part of the solution. She was almost proud of herself.

• 10:28Derrick Levasseur?

  Like they tried to get me, but it didn't happen. So again, it's a more innocent example, but your kids are smart and most of them may have already been exposed to it and you just don't know it. You know, they talk to their friends and stuff, so you don't know the conversations they're having, but that is our approach to, to have an open dialogue with your kids and understand that it's either going to be from you that they learn about it or someone else that you don't want them learning from. And if they're prepared for it, like you just said, Stephanie, if they're looking for those signs, if someone starts to say those things, they're going to think back to what mommy told them. Oh, mommy told me this might happen. This is something I was ready for. Now they're not be, they know what's going on. They might know that not the terminology that they're being

• 11:09Derrick Levasseur?

  groomed, but they can see it before it gets to a point where there's no return. So I do think this is a good approach, but I would love to hear from you guys in the comments. Cause listen, we're learning as we go to, by no means are we authorities on any of this, but as parents, maybe you have some suggestions or recommendations on how you deal with things like this. But I do think at the core, having this bulletin board, this community where it's not just about true crime cases, but also about educating each other and finding out what's out there and finding ways to deal with it. I think it's good for all of us because I would assume, what would you say? 60, 50, 60% of the people who watch this channel, listen to it are probably parents, maybe more?

• 11:48Stephanie Harlowe?

  Oh, I, yeah, I would assume so.

• 11:50Derrick Levasseur?

  Right. So we can all learn. Some of you, your kids are already older, off to college. Maybe you have some wisdom that you can share with us, although I will say now with technology, the world is a scary place, but any, any final thoughts for you on this story before we bring it to break?

• 12:04Stephanie Harlowe?

  It's always been a scary place. It's just like, it's a now, it's like now

• 12:08Derrick Levasseur?

  The reach is easier.

• 12:09Stephanie Harlowe?

  They have more accessibility to your kids. And yeah, yeah.

• 12:14Derrick Levasseur?

  No final words, that's really, we'll wrap it up there. So listen.

• 12:17Stephanie Harlowe?

  Let's take a break and then we're gonna talk about

• 12:20Derrick Levasseur?

  The lighter side.

• 12:20Stephanie Harlowe?

  Something lighter and also infuriating to me.

• 12:24Derrick Levasseur?

  I just want to say it one more time. Don't be afraid. You still gotta live your life. Be open, be honest with your kids. If you have a good relationship with them and you know how to speak to them, they're gonna be open to it as well. And I think they'll feel more like an adult coming out of it. They'll feel like they're part of it and not being just babied. And to be honest, I think they're more likely to actually act on what you ask them to do or what them to be aware of. Cause in most instances, they want to show you, hey, look at me. I'm an adult too. I'm smart. So it's almost like an incentive for them to catch something like this and let you know about it. But weigh in down in the comments. If you're on video, if you're on audio, leave a review with a comment as well. Would love to hear your thoughts, comments, concerns,

• 13:01Derrick Levasseur?

  and also recommendations. Take that break. We'll be right back to talk about how Stephanie missed out on the opportunity of a lifetime and I told her she would.

• 13:10Stephanie Harlowe?

  And it's your fault.

• 13:11Derrick Levasseur?

  Nope. I told you so. We'll be right back.

• 13:16Stephanie Harlowe?

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• 13:56Stephanie Harlowe?

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• 15:31Stephanie Harlowe?

  Okay. So what we're talking about right now is Matt Rife, who I'm sure most of you know who he is. He was big on TikTok for a while.

• 15:40Derrick Levasseur?

  Wow, little jab there. He was big.

• 15:42Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, well, he got canceled for, I don't know, this, this or that.

• 15:45Derrick Levasseur?

  Did he?

• 15:45Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, I don't know. He said something. He had, I think he had a Netflix special and he was talking in a way that people didn't like.

• 15:51Derrick Levasseur?

  He's still pretty popular. I mean, he lives in Rhode Island now, so everyone knows him out here. There's constant Matt Rife sightings.

• 15:57Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, oh, really?

• 15:57Derrick Levasseur?

  On Facebook. Saw him at Planet Fitness today. Saw him getting ice cream. It's kind of annoying.

• 16:02Stephanie Harlowe?

  Look at Matt Rife. He's just like us. Planet Fitness, ice cream. All right.

• 16:05Derrick Levasseur?

  Yep.

• 16:06Stephanie Harlowe?

  So Matt Rife has purchased Ed and Lorraine Warren's home, the Conjuring house, right? And where is that house, Derek?

• 16:15Derrick Levasseur?

  I believe it's in Borreville, Rhode Island. Is that where it is?

• 16:18Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah. And remember a few years back, you were like, hey, the Conjuring house is up for sale. And I said, Derek, let's buy this. This will be amazing. Let's, because you know, I love the paranormal. I love the occult. I love all that creepy stuff. I'm really into it and you are not. You were like, I won't even step foot inside that house, my friend. I, how can I buy it with you if I won't step in? I was like, it'll be great. We can open it up. We can do like ghost tours. It'll be so much fun. And you were like, no, I'm not gonna go. How, how can I go in on this?

• 16:45Derrick Levasseur?

  Why would we poke the bear?

• 16:48Stephanie Harlowe?

  Because, because.

• 16:50Derrick Levasseur?

  I mean, do we don't have enough problems in our life? We need spirits coming after us too?

• 16:53Stephanie Harlowe?

  Listen, the spirits don't come after the owner of the home. Ed and Lorraine Warren were like, it, it, really, really older by the time they passed away. Nothing ever happened to them. Okay? So what I'm saying is, Lorraine Warren, I believe died in 2019. She used to run it. So Matt Rife posts on social and he did like a TikTok thing too, but he posts, quote, "I've officially purchased Ed and Lorraine Warren's home and occult museum, including being the legal guardian for at least the next five years of the entire haunted collection, including the Annabelle doll."

• 17:23Derrick Levasseur?

  The friggin doll.

• 17:24Stephanie Harlowe?

  I probably wouldn't go near that doll.

• 17:25Derrick Levasseur?

  That's what I'm, right?

• 17:27Stephanie Harlowe?

  So you keep it in a room.

• 17:29Derrick Levasseur?

  Nah, man, I'm good. And I've seen the doll. Have you seen the doll, the actual one, not the movie one?

• 17:34Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, I mean, I've seen pictures, not in real life.

• 17:36Derrick Levasseur?

  Not in real life for me either, no.

• 17:38Stephanie Harlowe?

  No, but.

• 17:38Derrick Levasseur?

  He just did another video where he actually went in the house.

• 17:41Stephanie Harlowe?

  I know.

• 17:41Derrick Levasseur?

  By himself. I was like, that's pretty ballsy.

• 17:43Stephanie Harlowe?

  It's not ballsy, Derek.

• 17:45Derrick Levasseur?

  I'd much rather, if you said to me, hey, there's a guy with a gun and a ton of drugs behind this door, or you can go in the Annabelle house, I'm choosing the, what I know.

• 17:53Stephanie Harlowe?

  Okay, well, listen, it's, it's amazing. I wanted to do it. He's living.

• 17:58Derrick Levasseur?

  Which you can't see, Stephanie.

• 17:59Stephanie Harlowe?

  He's living my dream now because of you.

• 18:01Derrick Levasseur?

  You can go, you can rent the house. I'll help you get it.

• 18:04Stephanie Harlowe?

  Okay, so that, I'm getting there. So he said, him and his friend, because he, he did this with his friend and partner, Elton Castile. So basically, they own the house. They are the guardians of the haunted collection, including Annabelle, for at least five years. So basically, they don't own those items.

• 18:23Derrick Levasseur?

  He had to be very clear about that, like, from a legal perspective. I guess he's, there was something in there where he had to point that out.

• 18:29Stephanie Harlowe?

  And he said, "If you know me, you know I'm obsessed with paranormal and all things haunted. Same dude. You also may know the Conjuring films are my favorite scary movies of all time, so I'm incredibly honored to have taken over one of the most prominent properties in paranormal history." Ed and Lorraine Warren arguably put demonology and paranormal into the mainstream and they are the very heart of some of the most famous haunted stories of all time. Conjuring House, Amdivahora, etc. We plan to open the house for overnight stays and museum tours so you yourself can experience and learn all the haunted history surrounding this amazing place.

• 18:57Derrick Levasseur?

  It's an investment opportunity for him.

• 18:59Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, it could have been that for us and we could have just had so much fun with, we could have gotten spirit boxes. We could just sat there and like talked to ghosts, learned all about them. But that's what I'm excited about, opening it for overnight stays.

• 19:10Derrick Levasseur?

  I got a proposal for you. We've been talking about doing a crime, a criminal coffee meetup where we're, and again, this is still early, but we're thinking about doing like a pop-up shop at one of the bakeries here in Rhode Island. It's a bakery that's actually in the same building as us and we're still talking about that. But what this is what my recommendation, my proposal for you. When we decide to do that, make a weekend out of it. Book the Conjuring House as well and I'll go with you.

• 19:35Stephanie Harlowe?

  You will?

• 19:36Derrick Levasseur?

  Hundred percent.

• 19:37Stephanie Harlowe?

  You said you wouldn't go in.

• 19:38Derrick Levasseur?

  I don't want to sound like, oh, that dude, that like a douche, but I'm not afraid of it. I'd rather not, but if I gotta do it, I'll do it. And for the content for you guys, I'd do it. I owe you anyways because I haven't done the roller skating thing, the dyno thing. Maybe this will make up for that.

• 19:53Stephanie Harlowe?

  All right, I'm gonna actually like.

• 19:55Derrick Levasseur?

  I'll do it.

• 19:56Stephanie Harlowe?

  Get on doing, I don't know when they're opening it up.

• 19:58Derrick Levasseur?

  We'll film it, we'll have, we'll have Shannon or someone come out, we'll film it.

• 20:01Stephanie Harlowe?

  Maybe you should reach out to Matt Rife, one reality star to another.

• 20:05Derrick Levasseur?

  I'm good friends with his, one of his, he lives with him, his best friend slash camera guy, who I got introduced to through his show here in Providence. Him and I have a direct line of communication. We text all the time. So I could reach out to him, but I, I think we could just also book it regularly and just like a, you know, normal spot and just.

• 20:24Stephanie Harlowe?

  No, because what if they're not opening it up for months? We can get in.

• 20:27Derrick Levasseur?

  Oh, yeah, I could probably do that. I could probably do that.

• 20:30Stephanie Harlowe?

  We can be like that, that influencer on the Titan who ran it into Iraq.

• 20:35Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, no, let's not.

• 20:36Stephanie Harlowe?

  We can be the guinea pigs.

• 20:38Derrick Levasseur?

  That's like the wrong example to give.

• 20:40Stephanie Harlowe?

  We can be the guinea pigs of the Conjuring House.

• 20:43Derrick Levasseur?

  All right, but I'll tell you what I'm not doing though. Ah, maybe I would. Like, are you saying like at night and?

• 20:48Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yes.

• 20:49Derrick Levasseur?

  Oh my God, I'm petrified.

• 20:50Stephanie Harlowe?

  You said, you said you weren't scared. You were scared. I, I believe.

• 20:53Derrick Levasseur?

  I, I didn't say I wasn't scared. I just said I wouldn't do it. I'll do it.

• 20:56Stephanie Harlowe?

  Shannon, play it back. He said, I'm not scared.

• 21:00Derrick Levasseur?

  I don't want to sound like, oh, that like a douche, but I'm not afraid of it. I'd rather not, but if I gotta do it, I'll do it.

• 21:08Stephanie Harlowe?

  But you're scared.

• 21:09Derrick Levasseur?

  I am scared.

• 21:10Stephanie Harlowe?

  So let us know in the comments, would you like to see that? Would you like to see an overnight and we?

• 21:14Derrick Levasseur?

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who said anything about overnight?

• 21:17Stephanie Harlowe?

  We just said overnight.

• 21:19Derrick Levasseur?

  Hard no, hard no. Play the tape back. I will go to the house. I am not sleeping there. Zero shot. You can sleep there. You can film it and I'll watch from my phone at home. There's no shot I'm sleeping there.

• 21:32Stephanie Harlowe?

  Fine.

• 21:32Derrick Levasseur?

  No shot. I will go into the house. I'll go through it.

• 21:35Stephanie Harlowe?

  I mean, it's okay. Men can be scared of things too. I understand.

• 21:37Derrick Levasseur?

  That's fine. I'm not sleeping there. That's how they get you.

• 21:40Stephanie Harlowe?

  Men can be scared of ghosts.

• 21:41Derrick Levasseur?

  That's how they get you. Then the next thing is we end up killing each other in the house and they're saying it's a murder suicide. I'm good. Hard pass.

• 21:49Stephanie Harlowe?

  Okay, on that note, before we close out, I have a few.

• 21:52Derrick Levasseur?

  I am scared.

• 21:53Stephanie Harlowe?

  There's a very well-known true crime case that we, we know very well. You and I both, we've talked about it. And there is some videos about some like possible paranormal stuff happening around that case that at first, when I first was watching them, I was like, oh my God, these people are like, I can't believe they're making this. But now, after I've watched some more stuff, I'm actually like, ah, what is going on here? There's something to this. So I'm gonna send them to you.

• 22:16Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, I don't like the paranormal. I don't like it.

• 22:18Stephanie Harlowe?

  I know. Well, you're scared of it. Yeah. You don't just not like it.

• 22:21Derrick Levasseur?

  I don't like what I can't see. I don't like knowing that I, there's no physical way to like defend yourself. They got the upper hand. They win. They can possess you.

• 22:30Stephanie Harlowe?

  Ain't nobody gonna possess me. Then when they get in me, they're gonna be like, childhood trauma, PTSD.

• 22:35Derrick Levasseur?

  Pass on this one.

• 22:36Stephanie Harlowe?

  I'm all set. Let me go find a more wholesome.

• 22:38Derrick Levasseur?

  They're gonna hop over to me.

• 22:39Stephanie Harlowe?

  Let me go find a cleaner soul. Yeah, cuz you're, oh, cuz you're the picture perfect, like mentally healthy. Yeah, you're probably right.

• 22:46Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah. They're gonna be like, well, if we gotta choose lesser of the two evils.

• 22:50Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, it would be you.

• 22:51Derrick Levasseur?

  I mean, I'm not saying it's much better though. You're right. Okay.

• 22:55Stephanie Harlowe?

  Let us know in the comments if you, if you want to force Derek to spend the night there and then yeah.

• 22:59Derrick Levasseur?

  There's no shot unless you guys are gonna make start a GoFundMe. That's gonna be like a million dollars. I'm not staying there.

• 23:04Stephanie Harlowe?

  You're like, what are, what, aren't you like six foot three?

• 23:07Derrick Levasseur?

  I get taller every time you mention me. I'm six one.

• 23:09Stephanie Harlowe?

  Okay, aren't you like six four? No, you're okay. You're like a six one.

• 23:12Derrick Levasseur?

  That doesn't matter.

• 23:13Stephanie Harlowe?

  You're a, a police officer, detective. You've gone up against drug dealers, murderers. You've been shot at. Ghosts, little ghosties scare you?

• 23:23Derrick Levasseur?

  These are not little ghosts. They had an exorcism in that house.

• 23:26Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, so it's safe.

• 23:27Derrick Levasseur?

  There's still stuff going on in there. They say it's like one of the most like, what's the word I'm looking for? Like one of the most active spiritual places.

• 23:33Stephanie Harlowe?

  It is. It is. I know.

• 23:36Derrick Levasseur?

  I'm good. I'm good. I'm walking in. I'm co- we gotta get one of those like, Matt Rife wore, if you go watch his like TikTok or whatever YouTube, he wore like the cams where it's like on him.

• 23:46Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah.

• 23:47Derrick Levasseur?

  It makes you look goofy like nobody, regardless of how attractive you are.

• 23:50Stephanie Harlowe?

  Like a GoPro on your head. Yeah.

• 23:51Derrick Levasseur?

  But, I mean, we could do it all out, but I'm, I could reach out and see like if there's something we could do and kind of wrap it all up into one trip because we have to do some, basically we're gonna be pre-recording a bunch of Crime Weekies for CrimeCon. So we could kind of do all of those things and make it like a whole week out of it. But yeah, I'm going in and I'm going out. You can spend the night though.

• 24:11Stephanie Harlowe?

  I mean, I could just lock you in.

• 24:13Derrick Levasseur?

  Bring your Ouija board, do what you gotta do. Nah, I'm good on all that.

• 24:16Stephanie Harlowe?

  I can just lock you in, but okay. That's fine.

• 24:18Derrick Levasseur?

  You want to see me fight? You want to see the six one in me come out? I'll be, I'll run through a window. I'm, I'm getting out of that house.

• 24:24Stephanie Harlowe?

  Run through a window?

• 24:26Derrick Levasseur?

  I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you right now, dude.

• 24:31Stephanie Harlowe?

  I actually could picture that.

• 24:33Derrick Levasseur?

  I'll just shout at the window. I arm up, lock the neck, going through it.

• 24:36Stephanie Harlowe?

  There's like a Derek shape through onto there.

• 24:38Derrick Levasseur?

  Right onto the grass.

• 24:40Stephanie Harlowe?

  And then he keeps running. He's not even stunned.

• 24:42Derrick Levasseur?

  Here you go, Matt. Here's a check. I owe you a new window, bud. Sorry.

• 24:45Stephanie Harlowe?

  All right, fair enough. I'm gonna get you to spend the night, but, all right, let us know what you think in the comments and uh, Yeah, once again, keep an eye out, summer camp, schools, Roblox, all that stuff.

• 24:54Derrick Levasseur?

  Please, we don't want, we don't like these stories, but when they do come up, we can't just ignore them. Even though this one's over in England, it's like, oh, it's far away, it can't happen.

• 25:02Stephanie Harlowe?

  No, it happens here all the time.

• 25:03Derrick Levasseur?

  Happens here all the time.

• 25:05Stephanie Harlowe?

  Remember that, um, I think it was a few years ago, there was a sleepover and the father drugged, he made them smoothies.

• 25:13Derrick Levasseur?

  Yes, we covered it.

• 25:14Stephanie Harlowe?

  Remember?

• 25:15Derrick Levasseur?

  We covered it.

• 25:16Stephanie Harlowe?

  He made them smoothies and then they were all, and then they all got drugged.

• 25:19Derrick Levasseur?

  They weren't feeling well.

• 25:20Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, and so it's like, no, it's happening all the time, so just please keep an eye out.

• 25:25Derrick Levasseur?

  Yes, we gotta talk about it. If we don't talk, complacency, ignorance is not going to stop it from happening.

• 25:29Stephanie Harlowe?

  Make your kids aware.

• 25:30Derrick Levasseur?

  Make them aware, talk to them, let us know what you think. The second story here was a little bit lighter because I hate talking about the kid stuff because it makes me anxious.

• 25:37Stephanie Harlowe?

  It really does, yeah.

• 25:38Derrick Levasseur?

  But this was a little bit of a balance, so.

• 25:40Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, we, we have to film, uh, part two of Amy Bradley now, so we had to sort of like, get ourselves out of that darker headspace in order to transition into getting into a different case.

• 25:50Derrick Levasseur?

  Yes.

• 25:51Stephanie Harlowe?

  Or we just be depressed.

• 25:52Derrick Levasseur?

  Let us know what you guys think. Like, comment, subscribe if you're watching on YouTube, if you're listening on audio, head on over, leave a review, five stars would be great, and definitely leave a comment. Been going in there, reading them. We'll probably announce within the next week or two, our next Crime Con giveaway, so be on the lookout for that. Until then, everyone stay safe out there, we'll see you later in this week with part two of Amy Bradley, both on video and on audio. Have a good night.