Financial Audit: Intervention

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:59Caleb Hammer?

  To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. You accused her of cheating. You had to go through all her Instagram messages, all her text messages, all that [BLEEP].

• 1:07Speaker 03

  He just leaned in to kiss me and I just let it happen. I didn't know what to do.

• 1:10Caleb Hammer?

  You have no agency? What the [BLEEP] is this?

• 1:12Speaker 03

  He's like six foot five.

• 1:14Caleb Hammer?

  One thing you don't know is that, uh... Yeah, she has like fully just gone out and sent her ex [BLEEP] while you guys were together.

• 1:26Caleb Hammer?

  He tried to specifically turn off the vanish mode auto delete stuff on your phone and you wouldn't let him.

• 1:31Speaker 03

  It wasn't on. That [BLEEP] was literally on. It was not. It was on. I saw you grab my phone and turn it on and then be like, look, it's on.

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• 2:20Speaker 03

  Hi, my name is Stacy. I'm 25 years old.

• 2:23Speaker 04

  I am Aaron, 26. We're from Everett, Washington.

• 2:26Speaker 03

  And this is Financial Audit.

• 2:29Caleb Hammer?

  Hey guys, thanks for coming to Austin. Happy to have you. Stacy, what do you do for a living in Everett?

• 2:35Speaker 03

  I am a commercial wallpaper hanger and painter.

• 2:38Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, interesting. I've never even heard of people doing that. The painting part, sure, but commercial wallpaper, why not? Okay, sure. What do you make doing that, hanging wallpaper?

• 2:46Speaker 03

  Forty-five oh six an hour.

• 2:48Caleb Hammer?

  Really? Forty-five dollars an hour?

• 2:50Speaker 03

  Pretty good up there.

• 2:52Caleb Hammer?

  I'd say you're doing really well. Okay, wow. I mean, that's as far as hourly income goes on this show. Pretty damn good. How many hours a week are you working?

• 3:01Speaker 03

  Forty, but lately I've been doing like 60. It's been pretty brutal.

• 3:04Caleb Hammer?

  That's incredible. By choice, or they're making you?

• 3:07Speaker 03

  Uh, a little bit of both. I'm the only wallpaper hanger. They're hard to come by.

• 3:11Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, because who the [__] is hanging wallpaper, but sure.

• 3:13Speaker 03

  Starbucks wants the wallpaper.

• 3:16Speaker 04

  You've been doing a lot of double nights?

• 3:17Speaker 03

  So many Starbucks.

• 3:18Caleb Hammer?

  Nights?

• 3:18Speaker 04

  Very [__] full.

• 3:19Caleb Hammer?

  You're working nights?

• 3:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, sometimes.

• 3:21Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, cool. So what does that translate to into money that hits your account per paycheck cycle?

• 3:26Speaker 03

  I think roughly fourteen hundred a week. Lot of taxes are taken out.

• 3:31Caleb Hammer?

  That's what hits?

• 3:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:33Caleb Hammer?

  Not a lot of taxes. You're not in that lot of taxes range. No, you're not.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  Okay. Uh, the union. They take a lot for like your pension.

• 3:43Caleb Hammer?

  Maybe union, but that's not taxes. Like in the state of Washington either, it's like you're not... Like, no.

• 3:50Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah.

• 3:51Caleb Hammer?

  No.

• 3:52Speaker 04

  Gotta lock in a little bit here.

• 3:54Speaker 03

  It's like nine percent over there.

• 3:56Caleb Hammer?

  Huh?

• 3:56Speaker 03

  The taxes?

• 3:58Caleb Hammer?

  Nine percent what?

• 3:59Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 3:59Speaker 04

  I don't [__] know anything about taxes, man. I just go on TurboTax. I file every year. I don't really give a [__]. Just...

• 4:05Caleb Hammer?

  Well, sure, but we're talking about her. Okay, so that is six thousand sixty-six dollars a month. Okay, on average, I, you know, some weeks are gonna be, or some months are longer, some weeks, or some months are less, but that's what it averaged out to. Pretty good. Now, Aaron, we can talk about you, since you wanted to talk about yourself. Very happy about that.

• 4:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, I like doing that.

• 4:26Caleb Hammer?

  What do you do for your job?

• 4:28Speaker 04

  I am a maintenance technician for an apartment complex company.

• 4:32Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so you don't make the money?

• 4:34Speaker 04

  Uh, no, but you know, I do, I do try.

• 4:36Caleb Hammer?

  Hey, shack up with the golden goose, the mother of money.

• 4:41Speaker 04

  I mean.

• 4:41Caleb Hammer?

  Sugar mama, we love it. What do you make?

• 4:43Speaker 04

  I make about 25 an hour.

• 4:44Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, but you know, forever at Washington, obviously you do need more money. 25 would stretch further here than there, but, okay, very good. What, 40 hours a week?

• 4:53Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah, just about. You have to get OT approved by the bigger bosses and whatnot, but you know, if you're encountering a leak or a fire situation, that kind of just.

• 5:02Caleb Hammer?

  So what hits your account per paycheck cycle? What is that cycle?

• 5:04Speaker 04

  Um, I would say average, it can be about 16,000 and some change.

• 5:11Caleb Hammer?

  Every?

• 5:12Speaker 04

  Uh, sorry, every two weeks.

• 5:14Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so yeah.

• 5:15Speaker 03

  1600.

• 5:16Caleb Hammer?

  Well, yeah, I mean, I got it. Okay, no, I mean, I understood. Uh, but, okay, 3,200, very good. Okay, wonderful. So like half of what she's making. You guys are doing well together. You guys are doing well together.

• 5:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, for the most part.

• 5:31Caleb Hammer?

  How long have we been together?

• 5:32Speaker 04

  Five months.

• 5:33Speaker 03

  Five months.

• 5:34Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so this is not a marriage. At least I don't think it's. You guys are not married, right?

• 5:38Speaker 03

  I've known him for 15 years though, so I mean, it's been, we're not married.

• 5:40Caleb Hammer?

  Well, that has nothing to do with anything I just asked, but I appreciate the lore drop.

• 5:47Speaker 03

  Hey, it's good.

• 5:50Caleb Hammer?

  So far. What is?

• 5:51Speaker 03

  We've known each other for so long.

• 5:53Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, very good, but you've been together for five months?

• 5:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:58Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I don't really understand the point of that part, but I, thank you. That was beneficial. So 9,266 dollars, but I can't really combine it, because you guys have only been together for five months? Have you even lived together? Yeah, I mean, probably not. That would be crazy.

• 6:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, we.

• 6:13Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, that's crazy.

• 6:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, we live together currently.

• 6:16Caleb Hammer?

  I wonder if you guys live together?

• 6:18Speaker 04

  About, yeah, five months.

• 6:20Speaker 03

  December?

• 6:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:21Speaker 03

  December.

• 6:22Caleb Hammer?

  You guys moved in on the first date?

• 6:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, if you really want to say it like that, then yeah, just about.

• 6:28Caleb Hammer?

  The answer would be preferable.

• 6:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, we moved in basically right away. Yeah.

• 6:31Caleb Hammer?

  How? How? Okay. I mean, you guys are honeymoon phase in it. That's fine. Listen, I mean, is marriage even in the picture here? I don't know with how quick you guys are moving. I'm surprised you're not at this point. Um, okay.

• 6:44Caleb Hammer?

  Well, we're not combining this. I mean, that is an interesting financial position, I guess, to be in on this side of the table.

• 6:50Speaker 03

  To combine things.

• 6:51Caleb Hammer?

  Five months in, what the is wrong with you? That's a mess. No, don't be a delusional.

• 6:56Speaker 03

  We need to get our shit together before we combine things and then I want to for sure.

• 7:00Caleb Hammer?

  Yes, but I wouldn't say that's when you combine, when you get your shit together. I think you should get your shit together regardless. I don't think we're getting together. We're combining all of our bank accounts five months after getting together and immediately moving in. That's a little too quick. And I'm someone that has no problem with moving quick, but combining finances five months in honeymoon phase? What the is wrong with you? Not even close. That even something we'd consider.

• 7:22Speaker 04

  You know, shit just kind of happens and.

• 7:23Caleb Hammer?

  It sure does. And you have a choice whether or not it does for the most part, including combining finances. So what the you talked about shit happens? What?

• 7:30Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, I fucking love her. I mean, what do you want me to say?

• 7:32Caleb Hammer?

  No, very good. But you're in the honeymoon phase? I mean, come on. Before we combine all these accounts, before you have any legal protections that come with marriage, by the way. So like.

• 7:44Speaker 04

  All right. To be fair, she's the one that mostly wants to combine shit at this point.

• 7:47Speaker 03

  Do you not want to combine?

• 7:48Speaker 04

  Well, I'm not saying that. It's just like he just said, we're not, we're not even married yet. So I don't.

• 7:53Speaker 03

  I know, but I thought you wanted to too.

• 7:55Speaker 04

  Look, you're the breadwinner in this relationship. Let's just.

• 7:58Caleb Hammer?

  Well, yeah.

• 7:59Speaker 04

  Make that very blatantly truth. I mean, as much as I have a fully comped unit, so technically I'm making thirty seven an hour. If we're being realistic, because rent's like, what seventeen fifty? But I mean, you already wanted to combine shit. I want you to have your own shit. I got my own stuff.

• 8:15Caleb Hammer?

  You'd think it'd be he would, who would want to combine because he's the one that doesn't make money for the area and you make good money. But you want to combine. Why? Because you have like no pressures? You feel nothing?

• 8:24Speaker 03

  Uh, well, I mean, obviously there's some pressure else I wouldn't be here. But I feel like, I mean. Hmm, where do I want to go with this?

• 8:32Caleb Hammer?

  Why do you want to combine so quick?

• 8:34Speaker 04

  You'd think I'd be the gold digger.

• 8:36Caleb Hammer?

  You're still married? Okay, that's a bit weird. Can we not like not be married? To another guy before you?

• 8:43Speaker 04

  To be fair, I told her I wanted to wait a year. Before we talked seriously about marriage. I mean, we talk about it, you know what I'm saying? Like, who doesn't?

• 8:54Caleb Hammer?

  A year from when?

• 8:54Speaker 04

  Uh, just from when we started dating, around December. So, I mean, it's not like I'm looking to marry her right now. Do I want to? I mean, yeah, but...

• 9:02Caleb Hammer?

  Well, I feel like with the path she's going, she'd do it in this exact second. If I could marry you guys, I feel like she would.

• 9:10Speaker 04

  I mean...

• 9:11Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, she's laughing like a witch about it.

• 9:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, she kinda... Yeah, sometimes I don't want to go home to my wife. Anywho, so, I mean...

• 9:18Caleb Hammer?

  Your wife?

• 9:19Speaker 03

  See, he's not opposed.

• 9:20Speaker 04

  I mean, I call her my...

• 9:21Caleb Hammer?

  Are you guys married?

• 9:22Speaker 04

  No, I call her my wife. It's more in the metaphorical sense. We're boyfriend-girlfriend, but...

• 9:27Caleb Hammer?

  Of five months? This is like a high school thing. What the fuck are you guys doing? The reality is you guys re-met at a funeral on your [__] that night.

• 9:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:37Caleb Hammer?

  There you go. Now, there is an actually interesting element into this. Why'd you say I don't care about you?

• 9:42Speaker 04

  I just like to hear myself talk if I'm being honest with you.

• 9:45Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, so you guys re-met at a funeral?

• 9:47Speaker 04

  Pretty much grief.

• 9:48Caleb Hammer?

  Well, you married and you're bending over over the casket is a little crazy.

• 9:52Speaker 03

  Hey, I was going through the divorce process, okay?

• 9:54Caleb Hammer?

  Why the [__] were you guys at this funeral that you guys [__] up?

• 9:57Speaker 04

  Our buddy reached out to me. He wanted me there for moral support. I tried gathering friends of ours.

• 10:02Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, maybe you should have been there for moral support instead of bending her over.

• 10:05Speaker 04

  All right, that was later that night. We were very drunk, but, you know, I could have said no.

• 10:09Speaker 03

  Oh, that sounds charming.

• 10:09Speaker 04

  I mean, we love going berserk. I mean, I love it. It's great. It's great. I love it.

• 10:15Speaker 03

  He should say that after he just said, "Oh..."

• 10:19Speaker 04

  Oh, he did?

• 10:19Speaker 03

  Yes!

• 10:20Speaker 04

  Oh, there was no rain.

• 10:21Caleb Hammer?

  You said you were... She was like blacked out drunk.

• 10:24Speaker 04

  Oh, we were both drunk.

• 10:25Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, but you've seen the posters.

• 10:27Speaker 04

  Seen the posters?

• 10:28Caleb Hammer?

  Have you seen the posters?

• 10:30Speaker 04

  That's a double standard!

• 10:31Caleb Hammer?

  How long have you been in the divorce process at this point? You know?

• 10:34Speaker 03

  Oh, god, like two months. Not very long. Yeah, my husband was, um, deployed and I was trying to figure...

• 10:41Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, very good.

• 10:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, he was deployed and I was trying to figure out, like, I was trying to get all my ducks in a row before, you know, like, leaving. And...

• 10:47Caleb Hammer?

  You're leaving a dude while he's overseas? It's pretty brutal for him.

• 10:51Speaker 03

  He's an asshole. I had to get out of there. Um...

• 10:54Caleb Hammer?

  Well, is he an asshole? He was overseas. Just texting mean things?

• 10:59Speaker 03

  Well, it was, life is just easier when he wasn't home. When he was home, I did all the cooking, I did all the cleaning, I took care of everything. I felt like a mother when I don't have kids. Like, I, I don't know, it's just, every time he left, it was easier when he was gone. And so, I mean, why put myself through all of that when I could just go somewhere else?

• 11:18Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, and immediately check up at the funeral with him, okay. And you weren't married, right?

• 11:22Speaker 04

  No, I was just dating a 40-year-old.

• 11:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, you heard that. I did not stutter.

• 11:29Caleb Hammer?

  No, I'm just, uh, just looking at your age. I mean, I don't care. I think you were a 26-year-old.

• 11:33Speaker 04

  Always wanted a [BLEEP] MILF in high school and, you know, I'm 25.

• 11:36Caleb Hammer?

  Wait till 26? Oh, 25, wow.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, you know, I was a pussy back then.

• 11:40Caleb Hammer?

  Basically a kid.

• 11:40Speaker 04

  Yeah. I was groomed.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  I, uh-huh, that's some strong language.

• 11:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:47Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Stop.

• 11:52Caleb Hammer?

  So, okay, well, you're dating this woman?

• 11:54Speaker 04

  Uh, and then-

• 11:55Caleb Hammer?

  How long?

• 11:56Speaker 04

  It was about two years, about to be three.

• 11:58Caleb Hammer?

  What? You were three?

• 12:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was about, we were about to go on our third year of dating, but near the end-

• 12:04Caleb Hammer?

  When'd you break up with her?

• 12:05Speaker 04

  Uh, it was before her and I did anything, to be fair, so.

• 12:09Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 12:10Speaker 04

  It was already going downhill.

• 12:11Caleb Hammer?

  She's giving a face. What is that face?

• 12:17Speaker 04

  You wanna, do you wanna put it out there?

• 12:19Speaker 03

  I'm good.

• 12:20Speaker 04

  Lay your nuts out on the table?

• 12:21Speaker 03

  I'm fine. My, my nuts are tucked under the table.

• 12:23Caleb Hammer?

  What do you wanna say? I feel like this is the time to say-

• 12:26Speaker 04

  Lay your nuts out.

• 12:26Caleb Hammer?

  This, okay.

• 12:27Speaker 04

  I love my strong [BLEEP].

• 12:29Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, dude, my goodness, whoo, you're a-

• 12:32Speaker 03

  They had a little crossover. I'm not supposed to say that. I just gave a look, so I mean-

• 12:38Caleb Hammer?

  You're not supposed to say it?

• 12:39Speaker 03

  I don't think so, right?

• 12:40Speaker 04

  No.

• 12:41Speaker 03

  No?

• 12:41Caleb Hammer?

  Why you guys didn't tell me?

• 12:42Speaker 03

  That there was some crossover, wasn't that on the list of like, oh, you just don't wanna call?

• 12:46Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, oh, cool, beep that name for what it's worth. Yes, we're not calling the ex that's on your list, okay, that's fine. But what? There was a crossover of what?

• 12:53Speaker 04

  It wasn't really a crossover. I, it was-

• 12:55Caleb Hammer?

  Of seeing that person and [BLEEP] her at the funeral?

• 12:58Speaker 04

  No. Wait, sorry.

• 13:00Caleb Hammer?

  Crossover of what?

• 13:01Speaker 03

  Like, well, you guys were dating, kind of, even though it was like towards the end, when things were rocky.

• 13:06Speaker 04

  No, I broke it off with her before anything really happened.

• 13:09Caleb Hammer?

  Why is she saying that?

• 13:10Speaker 04

  Oh, [BLEEP] no.

• 13:10Speaker 03

  I wasn't aware of that.

• 13:12Caleb Hammer?

  Sure you just say that for the camera? That there was no crossover? Cause it seems like there was a crossover.

• 13:18Speaker 04

  No, there, there was not.

• 13:22Speaker 04

  Because then the relationship would just be based on cheating. I mean,

• 13:26Caleb Hammer?

  Well, yes, it would be. It would be based on cheating. Why did she have the perception that it was based on cheating?

• 13:37Speaker 04

  I mean, like I had said earlier, I'm just chalking it up as like miscommunication. I probably just didn't simply tell her that.

• 13:48Speaker 04

  It's what I'm assuming at this point. I mean,

• 13:50Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I feel like I'm being a kinda jerked off right now.

• 13:56Speaker 04

  I could, I mean,

• 13:57Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, that's not a joke. That's like, I feel like, come on. I feel like, first of all, she was like, she was supposed to not say that? And then like, no one told me anything. And it's just like, and now you're saying it didn't happen? I'm reading this very weird.

• 14:12Speaker 04

  I do not know why she said that.

• 14:14Caleb Hammer?

  Why would she say, wait, didn't we want to not talk about that or something?

• 14:17Speaker 04

  We talked about a no-no list in there. I just didn't want to,

• 14:21Caleb Hammer?

  The no-no list. Yeah, but you told me the no-no list.

• 14:24Speaker 04

  Certain things that I didn't really want to specify on a timeline because I didn't want to money.

• 14:28Caleb Hammer?

  Timeline. Oh.

• 14:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, timeline. Yeah.

• 14:30Caleb Hammer?

  Well, we're not giving dates.

• 14:32Speaker 04

  No.

• 14:32Caleb Hammer?

  No, I'm just asking if you were seeing her while you guys,

• 14:35Speaker 04

  No.

• 14:37Caleb Hammer?

  She,

• 14:40Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 14:40Speaker 03

  There was that thing with her kid.

• 14:43Speaker 04

  What thing? Do you want to elaborate on that?

• 14:45Speaker 03

  You stopped seeing her, so the kid like missed you and wanted to see you?

• 14:49Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. She had called the, well, you know, we're co, the, the ex and I were still coworkers and whatnot. And I had gotten pretty close with the child. We would game together, blah, blah, blah. And he didn't really have the necessary closure to understand like, oh, you know, Aaron is not going to be here anymore.

• 15:10Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, okay, whatever. That's a mess. I don't know. I don't understand. I feel like I'm getting. Jerked around. I don't know what's real, what's not, but who knows what the relationship is based on? Um, but I think we all get the vibe. Why did we move in so quick? Was it because you had nowhere else to go after immediately leaving her, being with her?

• 15:36Speaker 04

  No, I was already living in, excuse me, I'm so sorry. I was already living in Monroe at the time with a old roommate. I was, I've been friends with since high school. To make a long story short on that, my company offers free comp rent for their workers. So I wanted to, very, I wanted to jump ship, have some free rent.

• 15:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, we had a discussion. I mean, at the time I was either gonna move in with my parents or my grandpa. And I talked to him about it. He was like, oh, we could just get an apartment together.

• 16:07Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, okay, wait, so you guys at the funeral?

• 16:09Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:10Caleb Hammer?

  Stuck it raw?

• 16:12Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 16:13Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, a hookup at the funeral, not even, right? I haven't finished inside. I painted her like a canvas. What do you want me to say?

• 16:21Speaker 03

  No one needs to know that.

• 16:22Caleb Hammer?

  No way, he's gonna get all descriptive. I mean, Jesus. I wasn't gonna get that descriptive. I didn't even know, isn't that risky?

• 16:29Speaker 03

  Ah, I took a plan B the next day.

• 16:33Caleb Hammer?

  Thanks, because I'm gonna say with how quick.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  No babies.

• 16:36Caleb Hammer?

  Well, not, not the way you guys are doing it. The reason I actually asked that, I don't ask that just because I'm a degenerate, and I am, but either even without that, it's because how quick you guys are moving. You know how many accidental pregnancies happen in these kind of situations? And if you're raw dogging on that first meet?

• 16:53Speaker 03

  Babies are slimy and gross right now.

• 16:55Caleb Hammer?

  Right, and you're on a birth control and he's blasting raw blood, so like.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  I'm on birth control now. I'm good.

• 17:01Speaker 04

  She's always been on birth control.

• 17:03Speaker 03

  Uh, mini pill.

• 17:04Caleb Hammer?

  Great, so the like, yep, okay. Good luck!

• 17:07Speaker 04

  What's so bad about that though?

• 17:09Speaker 03

  The implant sucks. I was on my period for like three months at a time.

• 17:13Caleb Hammer?

  Every day, exact same time, no flaws, and that's even still the lowest effective, but even still, okay, so blew that load and then, how many days after, well, and then how quick did we move in?

• 17:26Speaker 04

  Uh, okay, so.

• 17:27Speaker 03

  After that, right?

• 17:29Speaker 04

  Just about a little under a month.

• 17:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:31Caleb Hammer?

  And we got on a lease together?

• 17:33Speaker 04

  Uh.

• 17:34Caleb Hammer?

  Shared lease? Cause that's risky a month in.

• 17:37Speaker 04

  We are.

• 17:38Caleb Hammer?

  To even just see each other.

• 17:39Speaker 03

  I paid for all the deposits.

• 17:40Speaker 04

  We are.

• 17:40Caleb Hammer?

  Sure you did. He has no money.

• 17:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, I didn't have the money at the time. I was gonna have my grandma help me with a little bit of it.

• 17:46Caleb Hammer?

  We're confident he's not with you just for the money and housing and.

• 17:49Speaker 04

  I'm not no gold digger. I think that's some pussy shit, bro.

• 17:52Speaker 03

  Housing's free from him. So I mean, I don't know. I just had to pay the damage deposit.

• 17:56Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, just how quick he's moving though. But, but no, you're all for it though.

• 18:01Speaker 04

  I mean, we're about to get the two bedroom and I wanna, I wanna pay for all that.

• 18:04Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, you're upgrading?

• 18:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, so it's gonna be with.

• 18:07Caleb Hammer?

  You're upgrading while on financial audit?

• 18:09Speaker 04

  Uh, so I was, what I had wanted when I first was looking for the comp department was a two by one. I wanted the space. She came into the picture. Now that became very much more required. But one wasn't ready at the time. So we've been making the one by one work.

• 18:25Speaker 04

  And then we got approved for it. So all we have to pay for is just.

• 18:29Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, okay. Maybe you're not gold digging. That's fine.

• 18:32Speaker 03

  A new pet.

• 18:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, cause I wanna, yeah, I wanna.

• 18:34Speaker 03

  Unfortunately.

• 18:35Caleb Hammer?

  I don't give a shit. Okay.

• 18:36Speaker 04

  I wanna pay for all of it.

• 18:37Caleb Hammer?

  I do care about this pet. So. Maybe you. Were trying to quickly get out of this husband situation though.

• 18:47Speaker 03

  Hey, I would have moved in with my grandma or my, my.

• 18:50Caleb Hammer?

  Exactly. I'm just still sussed at how quick you guys moved in together. I'm trying to figure that out. I feel like someone was running from something, but you get free housing, but you're with, you're going through the divorce. It's just, you don't move in that quick. You don't get on a lease together that quick. I know you put the money down. But even still, it's so risky.

• 19:06Speaker 04

  I will admit, I usually like to move slower in a relationship.

• 19:09Caleb Hammer?

  All this is the literal, complete opposite. But even still, lack of that, it's like.

• 19:15Speaker 03

  I'm the love of your life. Okay? There is no risk.

• 19:17Speaker 04

  Oh, there's that. You're not wrong about that. I've wanted you since high school. And then I finally wasn't chicken shit to admit that final. Everyone knew. Everyone knew I was, I was so into you, but.

• 19:27Caleb Hammer?

  He's obsessed with high school, this guy. I don't understand. Peoples who, peoples whose lives even starting mid twenties who are still obsessed with high schools. Live the most pathetic life. It's the highlight of their lives. Like what the? Okay, great. You worshipped her in high school. Yippee. We all had high school crushes.

• 19:42Speaker 04

  True.

• 19:42Caleb Hammer?

  And you have finally.

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• 20:12Caleb Hammer?

  Thank God you're.

• 20:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:15Caleb Hammer?

  Just using your high school crush to get out of that marriage? Move in real quick, have some fun?

• 20:19Speaker 04

  You taking advantage of me?

• 20:21Speaker 03

  No, I wouldn't do that.

• 20:25Speaker 03

  Sometimes I feel like you don't believe me, though.

• 20:28Caleb Hammer?

  I mean, why? Why?

• 20:30Speaker 04

  Why?

• 20:31Caleb Hammer?

  Why? Why? Why do you even feel that?

• 20:33Speaker 04

  There's been a couple of instances where I caught her.

• 20:35Caleb Hammer?

  Why ask her why she even feels that?

• 20:36Speaker 03

  I don't know. I feel like he doubts me a lot or like he questions my like actions or I can't even think of anything specific, but I just feel like he questions my motives a lot. You want to be my sugar daddy? Is that what you want?

• 20:49Speaker 04

  I mean, traditionally I'd like to, like to, I mean.

• 20:52Caleb Hammer?

  Why don't you get a better job?

• 20:53Speaker 04

  Because we have the free house and we want to save up enough money to get a house after being married, obviously.

• 20:59Caleb Hammer?

  This could be like in five seconds with your guys' rate.

• 21:03Speaker 04

  Well, I mean.

• 21:03Caleb Hammer?

  With like 30 kids, like you guys are going crazy.

• 21:06Speaker 04

  I'd shit 60K to buy a house right now in five seconds. Yeah, I'd get married to her, but that's just not a reality.

• 21:13Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 21:14Speaker 04

  Can you shit 60K in five seconds?

• 21:16Caleb Hammer?

  Dude, you are just, who is around you ever? In an enjoyable way? I don't understand.

• 21:23Speaker 04

  Very fair statement.

• 21:24Speaker 03

  To be fair.

• 21:25Caleb Hammer?

  That's not a good thing, buddy.

• 21:26Speaker 03

  I'm so used to it. I've heard it for so long.

• 21:28Caleb Hammer?

  And you like this?

• 21:30Speaker 03

  You know, the day's never boring.

• 21:31Caleb Hammer?

  You like his personality?

• 21:32Speaker 03

  It's never boring.

• 21:33Caleb Hammer?

  I'm bored listening to him. It's, it's what the? He's just saying things for, I don't know, reaction or like, I don't, I don't understand.

• 21:44Speaker 04

  Now, this is all me.

• 21:45Speaker 03

  You can't tell me you don't want a reaction from people when you say certain things.

• 21:48Speaker 04

  If I'm really trying to piss them off.

• 21:49Speaker 03

  Laying your dick on the table, that's not a reaction.

• 21:51Caleb Hammer?

  Pissing everyone off, you're just saying things for, were you a loser in high school?

• 21:55Speaker 04

  A little bit.

• 21:55Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, you're obsessed with high school. No reason, he's trying to make up for it. This is, this is how people talk that were like losers.

• 22:03Caleb Hammer?

  Yes.

• 22:03Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 22:05Caleb Hammer?

  He's making up for it. Hey, you got the girl. Move the on dude.

• 22:09Speaker 04

  Noted.

• 22:10Caleb Hammer?

  Move the on, get over it.

• 22:12Speaker 04

  There were good times in high school, but.

• 22:14Caleb Hammer?

  Stop with this high school. I don't care.

• 22:16Speaker 04

  I digress.

• 22:16Caleb Hammer?

  No one cares. You shouldn't care.

• 22:20Caleb Hammer?

  Dude, I had a great high school experience. I loved my high school. Okay? I hated high school. It was terrible. And that's great too. That doesn't matter. But I don't.

• 22:30Caleb Hammer?

  Like jerk off to it. It isn't the height of my life because my life isn't pathetic. If high school or college is the height of your life, you're not living life. You just moved on and just. Didn't do anything.

• 22:43Speaker 04

  It's not like I'm jerking my shit to the high school memories. I just, I reminisce about the good times I had in high school. My home life was shit then and high school was my escape at the time. So, I mean.

• 22:54Speaker 04

  I just kind of reminisce from time to time and.

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• 24:58Caleb Hammer?

  Listen, I mean, you haven't brought it up yet, Stacy, but I'm being told you have trust issues of Mr. Aaron from some previous experiences or things. I don't know what, what's happening? If you're moving so quick with this guy and you're having these trust issues, like, what are they? That's bad.

• 25:15Speaker 04

  How will you rebuttal, Stacy?

• 25:16Caleb Hammer?

  It's not a rebuttal, but if you are having trust issues of which I'm being told you haven't brought up yet, I want to hear them.

• 25:22Speaker 03

  I, I did almost leave that night, but basically during the Super Bowl.

• 25:28Speaker 03

  During the Super Bowl, he had his old roommate come over and, you know, we were sitting there watching it and the old roommate looks at, uh, looks at you and says, oh, so when are you going to pay me rent? And I looked at him because he told me that he stopped paying rent two months ago. And then like two weeks before that, when we went to Oregon for a trip, he, you know, you were like, oh, I have all this money now, you know, I feel so free and happy, which that was a lie too, obviously. And then, yeah, it finally came out that he was still paying him rent. How much was it like $900?

• 26:00Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, why?

• 26:01Speaker 03

  So just to be nice, which you are way too nice sometimes.

• 26:05Caleb Hammer?

  What's the trust issue? That he's like doing a bunch of...

• 26:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:09Caleb Hammer?

  But, but no, you were like a month in, like, why would he even have to tell you what he's doing with his money?

• 26:14Speaker 03

  I know, but he shouldn't be paying.

• 26:16Caleb Hammer?

  Unless he's specifically lying. I mean, I agree, he probably shouldn't.

• 26:19Speaker 03

  When I have to pay for all like the groceries and the damage deposits and the pet deposits and I'm struggling, he shouldn't be paying.

• 26:25Caleb Hammer?

  You should, that's the point. You shouldn't be taking care of everything a month into a relationship. It makes no sense and creates weird dependencies.

• 26:33Speaker 03

  But he has the money to pay other people.

• 26:34Caleb Hammer?

  Exactly. And you shouldn't be taking care of someone a month into a relationship. This is like, you guys are just figuring out, having fun.

• 26:41Speaker 04

  For the record, I don't want her to take care of me. I'm just saying.

• 26:45Caleb Hammer?

  Either way, you probably shouldn't have been giving him money. Why were you?

• 26:48Speaker 04

  It was very short notice to give my old roommate the heads up like, hey, I need to move out now.

• 26:53Speaker 03

  You didn't have a lease agreement with him though, so it's just not necessary.

• 26:57Speaker 04

  No, but it's the courtesy. I've been friends with...

• 27:00Speaker 03

  And that place is not worth $900 a month. Like, that was not worth it. It should have been like $400 at the most.

• 27:06Speaker 04

  Peace of mind. I didn't have to worry about the tweakers in Everett. Jesus Christ, Monroe is probably the one and only place I don't have to feel like I have to bring my gun around. Anyhow, I was being nice. I told him I'd pay him about three months of rent when rent due comes.

• 27:21Speaker 03

  Which is insane. You don't have to do that.

• 27:23Speaker 04

  Okay, to be fair, to be fair with that organ shit.

• 27:26Speaker 03

  Did he ask you to do that?

• 27:27Speaker 04

  No, he didn't fucking have to ask. He's my friend. I wanted to help him out. And to be fair with that organ shit, by the way, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

• 27:33Speaker 03

  Help me out. Why else can you help?

• 27:35Speaker 04

  For the organ shit, for the organ shit, I wasn't even paying him around that time. So that was the truth when I told you I actually feel so free. And paying for two months.

• 27:46Speaker 03

  No, that's bullshit. Bullshit.

• 27:48Speaker 04

  All right, for one of the months. I'll give you that one.

• 27:50Speaker 03

  See? Don't lie to me now.

• 27:52Caleb Hammer?

  Why are you lying? Well, I told you, that's the point.

• 27:54Speaker 03

  Don't do that.

• 27:55Caleb Hammer?

  What, what, what is the point? Why create trust issues this closely? Why lie? It's, it was pointless. I don't get it.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  I just wish you could have been honest with me. Yeah, it would have sucked.

• 28:06Caleb Hammer?

  Is this like a repeated pattern? Just these lies for no reason to look better? Cause what a stupid, pointless thing to lie about. And if I catch someone lying about that, it makes... Me question everything cuz when there's actually consequential things talking about. Well, I mean, earlier I felt like you were lying to me and now you just got caught on a small. I was like, I don't understand. I feel like I can't trust you. What?

• 28:27Speaker 04

  At the end of the day, I wanted to just help him and I'm sorry that you really picked up a lot of the burden of paying a lot of the bills, the food.

• 28:37Speaker 03

  Does he even pay rent to his dad?

• 28:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, of course he does.

• 28:42Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, but that's not even again. What matters? I mean, you can do what you want with your money, but if you're lying about it, that's the weird thing. Right? Cuz we're not married. You're barely even in the relationship at that point. You were literally a month in for talking Super Bowl night. So it just, it makes no sense. I don't know. You guys are moving way too quick. It's scary and then this is gonna blow up and things are gonna be entangled and I've had to deal with this on the show who people exes have had money that's been already entangled and we've had to like try to rip it apart and it's weird. It gets fucked up and she says she's noticing sketchy behaviors on your transactions too. What, what are they? Should you even be noticing transactions five months in on a ship? Maybe, maybe that's okay.

• 29:26Speaker 03

  I just noticed a lot of Zels. I've never seen so many Zelle transfers. Is it Zelle or is it some like PayPal or whatever?

• 29:32Speaker 04

  Oh, well with my.

• 29:33Speaker 03

  So many Zelle transfers.

• 29:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, with Navy Federal, it's it's Zelle cuz it's baked into the app or the bank institution.

• 29:39Speaker 03

  So many Zelle transfers. Why you need that much? Why can't you do like an automatic withdrawal or like have it like automatically put in your checking or something? There's so many Zels.

• 29:48Speaker 04

  It's so that I don't have a lot of money in my checking for all the bullshit that I pay for on my end. And then I won't have any money. I can at least control it to an extent.

• 29:57Speaker 03

  That's just exhausting.

• 29:58Speaker 04

  I mean, yeah.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  Necessary. I feel like that's not normal.

• 30:01Speaker 04

  It's exhausting, but as you can fucking see, we're on the show. My money management is shit. So I mean. But I'm also zelling you the most for all the wine you want me to get while I'm at work and then after work.

• 30:13Speaker 03

  That's true. I feel like you sell a lot of other people.

• 30:15Speaker 04

  I could pull up my Navy Federal right now. Show it to Papa Hammer right here and he's gonna probably take my side on this one.

• 30:20Speaker 03

  I don't need to look.

• 30:21Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 30:21Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, buying her a lot of wine?

• 30:24Speaker 04

  When I'm at work.

• 30:25Speaker 03

  Why me that much wine? It's only when you go to Costco.

• 30:28Caleb Hammer?

  The zelling thing is not the biggest issue, but is that not?

• 30:34Caleb Hammer?

  A little bit of a wake up call that. As quick into the relationship, she's seeing zels and she's like, already red flags and alarms are going off in her head. She doesn't trust you already. And you guys are moving so quick that when the honeymoon excitement ends, the only thing that's going to be left is the lack of trust. There's no foundation here other than excitement because a load got dropped on a day of a funeral. So is this gonna be lack of trust that's left? It's gonna be fights, it's gonna be battles, it's gonna be brutal.

• 31:03Speaker 04

  I just love Costco. I mean, Jesus Christ, they just...

• 31:07Caleb Hammer?

  What? I mean, yeah.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  That's bad. Okay.

• 31:10Speaker 04

  What?

• 31:11Speaker 03

  Nothing.

• 31:11Speaker 04

  So I kind of spaced out a little bit, but you know.

• 31:13Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 31:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, just a little.

• 31:15Caleb Hammer?

  You're pathetic.

• 31:15Speaker 04

  A little bit.

• 31:16Caleb Hammer?

  What's wrong with you? Why can't you just listen? It's scary that she can't trust you at this point when everything is so good. What's it gonna be when everything becomes normal? The excitement is done. It's his normal life at that point. All that's gonna be left is the lack of trust.

• 31:32Speaker 04

  I mean, you can trust me. I've been pretty cards on the table about a lot of shit at this point.

• 31:37Speaker 03

  Lately, you've been good.

• 31:38Speaker 04

  We've gone through our road bumps. And...

• 31:41Speaker 03

  Pretty intense.

• 31:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, I will say they were very goddamn intense, but, you know, I, I love you a lot. I love you very much. I want to have kids with you someday.

• 31:51Caleb Hammer?

  God, please, no! No! No! No!

• 31:58Caleb Hammer?

  It's like, I'm also somebody that's more skeptical. Jeez!

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• 32:31Caleb Hammer?

  Man, dude, not even five months in at this point? Bro! And also what road bumps at this point, a few months in?

• 32:38Speaker 04

  A lot of shit. I won't go into a lot of it.

• 32:40Caleb Hammer?

  No, why don't you go into a lot of it because you know, hey, remember when you're on our show to talk about things? Maybe you should talk about things.

• 32:50Caleb Hammer?

  You ain't give me a no-no.

• 32:52Speaker 04

  There was.

• 32:52Caleb Hammer?

  Where's the no-no? I have the no-no's. I'm avoiding the no-no's. Tell me the things that aren't the no-no's.

• 32:57Speaker 04

  I'll just give you a brief summary, but I'm not going to be very specific on what happened that night. There was one night, we went to a bar. I said something, I was very drunk, mind you, and I said something that was very a lot to take in. I am not going to disclose what was said that night. Just understand, it was really big bomb. Just, you don't just set it out there. I wasn't, I wasn't, yeah, just go with it.

• 33:26Caleb Hammer?

  I wasn't thinking. I mean, I know what it is and you didn't put it on the no-no list for me. It's that you have a criminal past.

• 33:32Speaker 04

  Criminal.

• 33:34Caleb Hammer?

  Right?

• 33:35Speaker 04

  No. I'm not, I'm not gonna disclose what the thing was. I'm not disclosing whatever it was. However, it was.

• 33:43Caleb Hammer?

  You didn't tell me not to talk about it.

• 33:45Speaker 04

  It was a lot for her to take in.

• 33:47Caleb Hammer?

  It's the criminal record.

• 33:48Speaker 04

  It, whatever. So, we're about to go to bed.

• 33:53Caleb Hammer?

  I would, I would have trust issues with someone with a criminal record. I'll be honest. I personally would.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  We went to bed, I got up and I left the house. I was gone. I went to some fancy bar in Seattle and I spent like, I don't know, like a hundred dollars on drinks and food and I didn't come back until like four in the morning, but I can't believe, he brought his dad home though.

• 34:13Caleb Hammer?

  It was a lot.

• 34:14Speaker 03

  I know, but like, I don't see why you need to like.

• 34:16Caleb Hammer?

  Shouldn't you tell the person you're with that shit?

• 34:20Speaker 04

  I didn't want to disclose it that fast and I wasn't.

• 34:24Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, you guys are moving quick on everything else. I think if you guys are moving that quick, you gotta bump everything up with. If someone's.

• 34:29Speaker 03

  That was a lot.

• 34:30Speaker 04

  Go with getting that one on the chin, fair enough.

• 34:32Speaker 03

  Bad setting.

• 34:33Caleb Hammer?

  Take that chin on the one.

• 34:34Speaker 03

  With a little TV prompt.

• 34:35Speaker 04

  And I was drunk. I wasn't thinking about it and I.

• 34:39Caleb Hammer?

  It must've been pretty egregious for her to walk out that night.

• 34:42Speaker 04

  I was trying to just talk about it later, but she was like, no, what is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? You can tell me. It's fine. We're safe. I love you.

• 34:50Speaker 03

  He wanted to go to bed. I couldn't go to bed. I, I had to leave.

• 34:53Caleb Hammer?

  What'd you do?

• 34:54Speaker 04

  I'm not just, no.

• 34:56Caleb Hammer?

  It's that bad?

• 34:57Speaker 04

  I'm not disclosing it on here.

• 34:58Caleb Hammer?

  It must've been that bad for you.

• 35:00Speaker 04

  I'm not disclosing it on here.

• 35:01Caleb Hammer?

  I already heard that part. That's why I'm not gonna ask again, but oh my goodness, if you're not willing to talk about it and she left that night, that has to be pretty egregious.

• 35:10Caleb Hammer?

  That's all I'm thinking, which honestly would make me nervous too. That's probably also why you can't find a decent job.

• 35:16Speaker 04

  No, I'm not a felon. I have a pretty clean record. Yeah.

• 35:20Caleb Hammer?

  You're not a felon, then what? I don't understand. Well, again, I'm not gonna ask again. I'm not gonna push your boundary if that's a boundary, which I'm picking up that it is. I don't know why you didn't tell me not to bring that up before, but.

• 35:30Speaker 04

  I thought I did, so my bad.

• 35:32Caleb Hammer?

  I did. But, okay, that's fine. Be more prepared next time. There won't be a next time. But be more prepared next time. Um, okay, yeah, I mean, so I would have trust issues too. And now, I mean, I, I, I, I'll be completely honest, I have trust issues. I mean, I caught you in the little lies. Felt like you were big lying to me earlier, and now there's this thing that you're being hyper vague about. And I'm just gonna let you know, based on a few episodes in the past. I'm not gonna pressure you to tell me. You do not have to tell me. I'm very okay with you not telling me.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  I appreciate that. Thank you.

• 36:04Caleb Hammer?

  But I am gonna let you know, based on previous episodes, the vagueness makes it look worse than it likely is.

• 36:10Speaker 04

  I'd rather take that on the chin.

• 36:11Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I'll let you take it on the chin.

• 36:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:14Caleb Hammer?

  Um, but I'm gonna have a hard time trusting you, and I don't blame her for having that issue. And again, that is what scares me. Finances are one of the large, leading causes for divorce in this country. And if right now, there's this big boiling pot of lack of trust, but it doesn't matter as much because everything is so good, everything is so honeymoon, everything is so exciting. What happens when that just becomes normal and all that's left is a steaming pile of lack of trust? That's nervous for me personally, especially if we're about to intertwine our finances so quick. I don't know. I don't know.

• 36:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, I just.

• 36:56Caleb Hammer?

  Don't do.

• 36:57Speaker 04

  No, I'm just wrong with it.

• 36:58Caleb Hammer?

  Don't do to me whatever you did to someone. I, I actually don't even know. So I like, I, that was a joke. I don't know what you did.

• 37:06Speaker 04

  Right.

• 37:06Caleb Hammer?

  But, um. Listen, I don't know. I mean, Aaron specifically avoids that you've lied, or you've admitted that you've lied during money conversations with Stacy, because you want to avoid the conflict. That's what you told Colton. That's what you told Colton. You lie in conversations and you're admitting to that? How the is there a future cure? I know he's worshipped you and that's some easy dick. Like, very, very good. And you were able to get free housing out of it? Very good. Out of a divorce. Like, come on, I'm starting to connect some dots in my head. Why the are you doing with this?

• 37:41Speaker 03

  He does everything my ex-husband doesn't. He cleans the house.

• 37:45Caleb Hammer?

  He's not overseas?

• 37:46Speaker 03

  Goes grocery shopping with me.

• 37:48Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I don't think they can do that when they're overseas.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  Well, he was only gone for three months at a time, but when he was home, I did everything. He actually is a contributing member to the household and it's really refreshing.

• 37:57Caleb Hammer?

  Contributing lies and deception and...

• 37:59Speaker 03

  Well, at least it doesn't feel like I'm taking care of a child.

• 38:01Speaker 04

  It was like two fucking times that I had a big, I had told two big lies about a thing.

• 38:06Caleb Hammer?

  Within a few months is pretty brutal, actually. That's actually a pretty bad track record. That's pretty bad. That's not good. That's not good there, Mr. Aaron. What did he lie about?

• 38:17Speaker 03

  What did I lie about?

• 38:18Caleb Hammer?

  What did he lie about?

• 38:19Speaker 03

  Well...

• 38:19Speaker 04

  Well, it was the old roommate thing.

• 38:21Speaker 03

  The old roommate thing.

• 38:22Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, yeah, that one's...

• 38:23Speaker 03

  And then...

• 38:24Caleb Hammer?

  The fact that you lied about it is a bad thing. Not that you're doing it. I mean, I wouldn't advise you doing it, but the lying, I don't understand. It was a pointless lie, which is even worse than a lie that, like, you could have some reasoning for. It makes it even worse. And what's the other lie?

• 38:38Speaker 03

  I don't...

• 38:40Speaker 04

  I actually may have mistaken...

• 38:41Caleb Hammer?

  An overlap?

• 38:41Speaker 04

  Was there...

• 38:43Speaker 03

  I don't think he's lied about any...

• 38:44Caleb Hammer?

  I don't know. You were telling Colton that you've specifically lied to avoid confrontation in the financial conversations of the household.

• 38:50Speaker 04

  I think I was mostly just referencing the old roommate thing. Cause it, I mean, it was a very broad...

• 38:55Speaker 03

  Is there anything else?

• 38:56Speaker 04

  Well, it was a broad, now there's nothing else. I mean...

• 38:58Speaker 03

  Okay, just checking.

• 38:59Speaker 04

  I, it was a very broad question to me in general, so I just... Yeah, I had replied with just the old roommate thing.

• 39:07Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so what are we doing, guys? So what, what, what the is even going on today? Cause let's just be honest, we can all, we can all see it from here. This is a fucking mess. This is a fucking mess this early on in a relationship. I don't know what you guys are doing. I don't think you know what you guys are doing. You guys are having fun, which is fair, which is fair. Have fun. But does everything else have to move as quick with it? I don't think so. This is a mess, guys. This relationship's a fucking mess.

• 39:37Caleb Hammer?

  What is going on?

• 39:38Speaker 04

  I've always wanted her. I'm not gonna.

• 39:41Caleb Hammer?

  I know, I know.

• 39:42Speaker 04

  You already know, but.

• 39:43Caleb Hammer?

  It's exciting to get with your high school crush. Does that mean that that's who our spouse is for life? I don't know. And also, would you, why, why even start the relationship out of lie? Well, like the overlap and these other things, it's like, it doesn't make any sense.

• 39:57Speaker 04

  We had went to Christmas at her parents', you know, what was it? Was it last year?

• 40:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:04Speaker 04

  She basically expressed concern about the whole roommate money thing. And I told her my thing on it like.

• 40:10Caleb Hammer?

  That was like, like a couple of weeks into the, even after the diddling at the funeral. Okay. Interesting. Why would you be so concerned about it at that point? Like, that's invasive and intrusive.

• 40:21Speaker 03

  Because I was paying for everything at that point and it just doesn't seem fair. He didn't have the money to like, pay for things, you know? And if someone else is getting it that you're not even like living with, then I just, it's not fair.

• 40:33Caleb Hammer?

  So that confrontation does speak words, but for what it's worth, with how you started the relationship, with how you've done it with your trust issues, you know, one of the easiest ways to tell someone does something bad or thinks something bad is what they accuse the other person without any proof. And you accused her of cheating. You had to go through all her Instagram messages, all her text messages, all that shit. Why would you accuse her of that? Such as unless there's like actually something that was seen, not a very normal thing to accuse.

• 41:04Speaker 04

  There is a specific, what was it? It was, um, she had went to a restaurant with her ex to talk about stuff.

• 41:14Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, she's getting a divorce.

• 41:16Speaker 04

  Let me, let me just elaborate a little more. I'll make it a quicker summary.

• 41:19Caleb Hammer?

  That's okay.

• 41:20Speaker 04

  You know, she was in a good mood before I had to go walk the dog. I walked the dog. I come back. She's pissed. So I'm asking her what's going on. Ex-husband's being a dick, this and that, blah, blah, blah. And at some point, you know, I'm just like, can I just see like the messages for more context? Like, I feel like you're really not giving me enough to go off of. So I start reading it. She kind of starts shying away her phone like, no, let me see the text. And there is essentially. Some like affection intimacy that was shared.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  It was not affection and intimacy.

• 41:52Speaker 04

  Okay, but you kissed him after the dinner like that's kind of weird to me.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  There was no affection or intimacy.

• 41:58Speaker 04

  He scared you that much. Why are you gonna let him do that?

• 42:02Speaker 03

  What am I supposed to?

• 42:04Speaker 04

  You say no, you're a woman in 2020, in 2026.

• 42:08Speaker 03

  There was no intimacy. Nothing happened. There was no flirting.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  So you're telling me if he was here right now and he tried to steal another kiss from you, you're gonna let that shit happen?

• 42:15Speaker 03

  No, I'm not gonna let that happen. He's gross.

• 42:17Speaker 04

  So why did you let that happen in the first place?

• 42:19Caleb Hammer?

  Why did you kiss him? That's actually kind of crazy.

• 42:21Speaker 03

  He's just, oh, he, he just leaned in to kiss me and I just let it happen. I didn't know what to do.

• 42:27Speaker 04

  You have no agency? What the fuck is this?

• 42:29Speaker 03

  He's like six foot five.

• 42:34Speaker 04

  Oh, shut up. He's a little scared. What was he gonna do? Take out an axe and slice you in the middle of a restaurant? But you had told me a completely different story about what went down that night. You said you had dinner with them at Red Robin's. You, after dinner, you went to Half Price Books to calm down and you

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• 43:20Speaker 04

  Got your little sister's son a book. That is not what the

• 43:25Speaker 03

  I did get him a book.

• 43:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, but then you also bought your ex-husband a book.

• 43:28Speaker 03

  To be fair, I didn't buy him the book.

• 43:30Speaker 04

  You both went to Half Price Books together.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  By accident.

• 43:33Speaker 04

  You guys went to Half Price Books together. You got him a book.

• 43:37Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, that's weird. That's going to have, that's like a date activity.

• 43:41Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 43:42Speaker 03

  That was like right across the street.

• 43:43Speaker 04

  That's why I was so concerned.

• 43:45Caleb Hammer?

  That's like a date activity.

• 43:46Speaker 04

  If you were just straight up with me on that shit, and I am a hypocrite, I'm a hypocrite at this point.

• 43:53Caleb Hammer?

  Well, yeah.

• 43:53Speaker 04

  Because I lied to you about the rent shit. Hold the [__] on.

• 43:55Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 43:56Speaker 04

  The thing is, you could have told me very straightforward. Like, hey, this is what happened. Something was a little exchanged, went to half price books, and then we left. I was still would have been very [__] upset. But then you decided as soon as I-

• 44:10Speaker 03

  I don't know how to navigate all of this.

• 44:12Speaker 04

  As soon as I called you out on it.

• 44:13Speaker 03

  It's hard. I don't know how to do any of this.

• 44:15Speaker 04

  As soon as I called you out on it, you start freaking the [__] out like I was gonna [__] you.

• 44:20Speaker 03

  I don't know how you're gonna react.

• 44:21Speaker 04

  I had to give you space.

• 44:23Speaker 03

  I've been through a lot.

• 44:24Caleb Hammer?

  Well, it's actually gets you angrier. One thing you don't know is that, uh, yeah, she has like fully just gone out and sent her ex flowers while you guys are together.

• 44:38Speaker 04

  What's why? You wanna [__] collaborate on that shit?

• 44:40Caleb Hammer?

  I don't know why. I mean, don't hit her. I agree with that part.

• 44:43Speaker 04

  I'm not gonna hit her. I don't hit women. That's [__] up.

• 44:45Caleb Hammer?

  I don't know. That was her fear.

• 44:46Speaker 04

  Okay, fair enough.

• 44:47Speaker 03

  He said if I loved him, I would send him the boat title with my signature on it.

• 44:52Speaker 04

  Do you realize how [__] that sounds?

• 44:54Caleb Hammer?

  Why would he be texting you after you guys are going through divorce and you're with him? If you loved me.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  If you loved me, you'd send me the boat title.

• 45:03Caleb Hammer?

  Why would he even have that language?

• 45:04Speaker 03

  I don't know why he would have that language. And so instead, I, I sent him flowers and he was not pleased about it. I thought it was kind of funny. He didn't get, he didn't get the boat title.

• 45:13Speaker 04

  Okay, hold on. Let me, let me try to-

• 45:16Speaker 03

  He was-

• 45:16Speaker 04

  Get in your mindset real quick. So, cards on table. Was this like a dominance thing to [__] with him? Or was there still a little bit of like-

• 45:24Speaker 03

  It was like a dominance thing. It's like when I bought him a Starbucks when we were exchanging stuff.

• 45:28Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, dominance, like you kissing him.

• 45:29Speaker 03

  No, I didn't kiss him. I didn't kiss him. I didn't kiss him.

• 45:34Speaker 04

  That's not what that text said.

• 45:35Speaker 03

  I didn't kiss him.

• 45:36Caleb Hammer?

  What did the text say? Wait, what the text?

• 45:38Speaker 04

  I can't, I can't remember.

• 45:40Speaker 03

  I have no clue where you're even referring to.

• 45:41Speaker 04

  I can't really remember at this point because it was long ago. That was a long night, by the way. But it was something like-

• 45:47Caleb Hammer?

  You guys have been together five months, how long ago?

• 45:49Speaker 04

  It was something along the lines of like, you're switching up how you feel now. We exchanged a kiss. Like, why are you so backpedaling on what you said that night now?

• 45:58Caleb Hammer?

  That's gold pushing because you were saying he kissed you on the nose. That's not exchanging kiss.

• 46:02Speaker 03

  I did not kiss on the lips. That didn't happen.

• 46:04Caleb Hammer?

  Show me the text.

• 46:05Speaker 03

  I don't have the texts.

• 46:06Caleb Hammer?

  Why?

• 46:07Speaker 03

  I delete them or else I keep looking back at them. I get anxious.

• 46:10Caleb Hammer?

  Why would you keep looking back at the texts with your ex?

• 46:13Speaker 03

  I have no self-control.

• 46:14Caleb Hammer?

  What are you self-controlling from?

• 46:16Speaker 03

  It makes me anxious. That's why I haven't blocked on everything. I don't want to go back and look at stuff.

• 46:20Caleb Hammer?

  What is she having self-control from?

• 46:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:22Caleb Hammer?

  Looking back. What would you be having self-control? Self-control doing what?

• 46:27Speaker 03

  I don't know, just, it's just hard.

• 46:29Caleb Hammer?

  What is? You're saying nothing.

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• 48:39Speaker 04

  It's like you're in the hot seat, Stacy.

• 48:40Caleb Hammer?

  He tried to specifically turn off the vanish mode auto delete stuff on your phone and you wouldn't let him.

• 48:45Speaker 03

  Well, why are you turning on auto delete? You think you'd wanna-

• 48:48Caleb Hammer?

  Cause he can't trust you after you've exchanged a kiss with the guy and now saying it was on your nose, no?

• 48:53Speaker 03

  Then it just gets deleted. What's the point of that? If you can't go in and look at things later, why are you turning auto delete on my phone?

• 48:58Caleb Hammer?

  No, he tried to turn it off. Yeah. Auto delete's off.

• 49:02Speaker 03

  It was already, it wasn't on. I saw you-

• 49:06Speaker 04

  Oh, are you talking about the disappearing messages shit? That shit was literally on.

• 49:11Speaker 03

  It was not. I saw you grab my phone and turn it on and then be like, look, it's on.

• 49:16Speaker 04

  It was already on. I turned it off.

• 49:19Speaker 03

  I have no clue how to turn that on on Instagram.

• 49:21Caleb Hammer?

  I get it. I love a good disappearing goon message when I'm in the goon zone.

• 49:28Speaker 03

  You could look at her my phone sometimes.

• 49:30Caleb Hammer?

  Because people like to do crazy things with influencers, so I don't want to with that shit.

• 49:34Speaker 04

  You're doing that shit crazy style?

• 49:35Caleb Hammer?

  But you guys are together, and let me be very clear. No open?

• 49:39Speaker 03

  No.

• 49:40Caleb Hammer?

  Well, there you go, that I would be very, very sketched out if I looked over and the girl I'm with is having vanished mode conversations with her ex.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  I didn't have it on, you turned it on.

• 49:53Speaker 04

  I will say, to be fair, the only, because I know the guy, the only thing they actually talk about, they don't even talk, they just send memes.

• 50:01Caleb Hammer?

  Why'd they kiss?

• 50:01Speaker 04

  No, that's a different person, different person.

• 50:03Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, wait, what the, who was that?

• 50:06Speaker 04

  What were you referencing?

• 50:07Speaker 03

  Well, I'm talking about Instagram, you're probably talking about my ex roommate. No, I didn't kiss anybody, he's confused.

• 50:12Caleb Hammer?

  No, you did, who'd you exchange a kiss with?

• 50:14Speaker 03

  Nobody.

• 50:15Speaker 04

  The, the ex-husband.

• 50:16Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 50:17Speaker 04

  That, okay.

• 50:17Caleb Hammer?

  But there's no vanished mode with the ex-husband?

• 50:19Speaker 04

  I see the cross connection, okay, so we were talking about the whole Red Robin situation, right? And then she jumped, I'm gonna assume that you jumped to where you were talking about the disappearing messages on Instagram, right?

• 50:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:31Speaker 04

  Okay, so there was a jump in the conversation, okay, so that's where we got mixed up.

• 50:36Caleb Hammer?

  Isn't that a red flag, though, Stacy, that, uh, Aaron's friends warned you to, oh, wait, sorry, sorry, actually, reverse. Yeah, yeah, no, no, one of your friends told you, warned you about her before you guys got together.

• 50:51Speaker 03

  She's a.

• 50:52Caleb Hammer?

  But isn't that a red flag a little?

• 50:54Speaker 03

  That's not a red flag, she's hated me.

• 50:56Caleb Hammer?

  Your ex, come on.

• 50:57Speaker 04

  There is a whole.

• 50:58Speaker 03

  He's hated me, or she's hated me since high school.

• 51:01Speaker 04

  There is a whole situation with them in high school, and at the end of the day, to an extent, I sided with that friend, however.

• 51:09Speaker 03

  She's nuts, she wanted my other friend to pay for prom, the whole thing, I don't know.

• 51:13Caleb Hammer?

  Is Everett a small town?

• 51:14Speaker 04

  No, no, well, at this time, we were going to.

• 51:16Speaker 03

  We were in high school.

• 51:17Caleb Hammer?

  So obsessed with prom in high school still, it's so weird.

• 51:20Speaker 04

  Prom, I thought that shit was dumb as, anyhow.

• 51:22Caleb Hammer?

  Great, yeah, you're really.

• 51:23Speaker 04

  I heard her.

• 51:24Caleb Hammer?

  Dude, you were a loser, you didn't have prom.

• 51:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, no shit, I was also poor.

• 51:27Caleb Hammer?

  That was it.

• 51:28Speaker 04

  She was able to tell me her side of the story, which lined up pretty well with what I was told on that friend's side, so I was like, okay, I can.

• 51:37Speaker 03

  She's hated me since the beginning, she's hated my twin sister too.

• 51:40Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, but come on, you guys started with basically cheating from both sides, like you kissing your ex and you with the overlap, it's like, what the?

• 51:46Speaker 03

  He's just jealous because she wants to fuck him.

• 51:48Caleb Hammer?

  This relationship has no foundation.

• 51:50Speaker 03

  That's what it is, no.

• 51:52Caleb Hammer?

  Is that what it is?

• 51:54Speaker 03

  I think she wants to [__] you really bad.

• 51:55Speaker 04

  There is a point where I knew she was into me, but I it wasn't. I was not.

• 52:01Speaker 03

  That's because she asked for a doorway. That's weird.

• 52:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was a really big fan of that. My girlfriend at the time, not the 40 year old, but.

• 52:10Caleb Hammer?

  Who would be the third then?

• 52:11Speaker 04

  Uh.

• 52:12Speaker 03

  Her and her husband?

• 52:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:13Caleb Hammer?

  Oh.

• 52:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, we all banded in the same room. I wasn't really into it afterwards. We no swapping. There wasn't any swapping. It wasn't like that. Just kind of happened that night and shit. Yeah, yeah. No, I wasn't really into it afterwards. I felt very gross and then.

• 52:28Caleb Hammer?

  I would too, probably.

• 52:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, it was bad.

• 52:30Speaker 03

  She wanted you so bad.

• 52:31Speaker 04

  But they see, here's the thing. They kept [__] with me on the subject like, oh, we're gonna ban your girlfriend like it's gonna happen again.

• 52:37Caleb Hammer?

  I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. If she warned you about her, why would she do that?

• 52:42Speaker 04

  I assume she still has some residual, a lot of residual resentment.

• 52:46Caleb Hammer?

  You guys both started this relationship on borderline cheating on both sides. Come on. Crazy. What we learned at this point.

• 52:52Speaker 03

  She's defending him. She's coming to like, you know, save him. So I mean.

• 52:56Caleb Hammer?

  There's no foundation of this relationship. I don't even understand the point. Guys. Once you guys get slightly out of the excitement, this relationship is done. I mean, come on, it totally is. There's no longevity here. And if there is, it's gonna be misery eventually.

• 53:10Speaker 04

  I think my passion will overpower all that bullshit.

• 53:13Caleb Hammer?

  It was five months ago.

• 53:14Speaker 04

  No, no, no. Passion.

• 53:16Speaker 03

  Passion?

• 53:18Speaker 04

  Passion. Jesus Christ. Read a goddamn book.

• 53:20Caleb Hammer?

  Read a book?

• 53:23Caleb Hammer?

  What are you? How you? You don't learn that in a book.

• 53:25Speaker 04

  My passion will overpower all the short term bullshit.

• 53:27Speaker 03

  You were saying like passion.

• 53:28Caleb Hammer?

  That's the thing. That's what I'm specifically saying is that this passion, this fiery moment, the honeymoon phase will end.

• 53:36Caleb Hammer?

  And then nothing's left. It started with cheating, trust issues along the way. Nothing's there.

• 53:42Speaker 04

  I want to make this.

• 53:43Caleb Hammer?

  Free housing and free money. That's all there is.

• 53:46Speaker 04

  I don't want her [__] money though.

• 53:47Caleb Hammer?

  Uh huh.

• 53:48Speaker 04

  No. If I really wanted her money, I would ask her all the time to pay off my car. I would always ask her to buy me booze. I don't, I'm not gonna do that.

• 53:57Caleb Hammer?

  Wine and booze, how much, do you guys drink a lot?

• 54:01Speaker 04

  A little above average, but you know, who's counting?

• 54:03Caleb Hammer?

  This ship's gonna go down in flames, guys.

• 54:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're also a blue collar, so I mean.

• 54:07Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 54:08Speaker 03

  That's a terrible excuse.

• 54:09Caleb Hammer?

  I come from a very brown collar family. What?

• 54:14Speaker 04

  Everyone drinks. Every, a lot of, most blue collar people drink.

• 54:18Caleb Hammer?

  The ages you guys are drinking has fallen off the cliff dramatically.

• 54:22Speaker 04

  Wait, really?

• 54:22Caleb Hammer?

  Yes, really.

• 54:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think Gen Z is like.

• 54:25Caleb Hammer?

  Yes.

• 54:26Speaker 04

  Really? Do they smoke more than?

• 54:28Caleb Hammer?

  I'm sorry, just because you're an alcoholic doesn't mean everyone else around you is. Just because you're a cheater doesn't mean everyone else around you is. Just because you're a liar doesn't mean everyone else around you is.

• 54:36Speaker 04

  I didn't cheat.

• 54:37Caleb Hammer?

  That's not how this world works.

• 54:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:39Caleb Hammer?

  Read a book.

• 54:40Speaker 04

  Read a book.

• 54:41Caleb Hammer?

  A good one.

• 54:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:42Caleb Hammer?

  Okay. What do we think, uh, combined financial scores? I mean, I don't advise combining, but if that's your guys' entire goal, sure, I'll meet you there. But am I doing separate budget or a budget together? What are we trying to do, guys? Where, where am I going from, from here?

• 54:58Speaker 04

  Actually asking, are you willing to do both just to see where we're kinda at? Or would you prefer?

• 55:03Caleb Hammer?

  Separately or together?

• 55:04Speaker 04

  I, I mean, both separately and then we do the together budget.

• 55:08Speaker 03

  I want it, I want us to eventually come together. I mean, we don't split things very fairly as it is.

• 55:13Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, what do we think our household financial score is together then? Zero to 10?

• 55:16Speaker 04

  I actually meant to take that test before this.

• 55:19Caleb Hammer?

  Well, what do you think it is?

• 55:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, that happened. Two.

• 55:22Speaker 03

  I was gonna say two.

• 55:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:23Speaker 03

  Or like 1.5.

• 55:24Caleb Hammer?

  That test is at CalebHammer.com. Get your Hammer Financial Score for free. See where you stand in the world of money. Where you're doing poorly, where you're doing great, what you have to do to get from that poorly to great. And if you don't want to be like a guest who ends up in the show, make sure you download the Dallawise Budgeting app. It is what they will use after this, what they get for free forever and what you should get the free trial. See if you like it. And if you do, sign up for the annual version. It'll save a lot of money. And when you do, I will personally sign my detailed 30 day meal plan. It goes into detail, every meal, every drink, every snack you make for every day of the month for meal prepping. Stick it to a budget. This thing is incredible. It has saved people a lot of money. I'll sign it and mail it directly to you.

• 56:02Caleb Hammer?

  Now otherwise.com link below or just download the app.

• 56:05Speaker 04

  You're very pretty. What are you doing after this?

• 56:07Caleb Hammer?

  Dude, yeah, you're rough, man.

• 56:09Speaker 03

  Aaron.

• 56:10Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 56:11Speaker 03

  You're trying to read.

• 56:13Caleb Hammer?

  You're some white reading for you.

• 56:14Speaker 04

  Book.

• 56:15Caleb Hammer?

  Freak was obsessed with you during high school. Why the did you go back?

• 56:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm kind of surprised about that, too.

• 56:22Speaker 03

  He's my best friend. He was my best friend in high school.

• 56:25Speaker 04

  Tell you what, I'm really lucky for this one. This is good shit. So you guys go do your thing.

• 56:33Caleb Hammer?

  Dude, I do not. Well, what is this person called? I've met a few people like this in my life.

• 56:37Speaker 04

  Douchebag is what it's called.

• 56:39Caleb Hammer?

  No, it's not douchebag. You're not a douchebag. You're like, dude, you're there's something wrong with you.

• 56:43Speaker 04

  Appreciate it.

• 56:43Caleb Hammer?

  And you're like putting on like a, your life is a performance. It's so weird. What is this?

• 56:49Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 56:49Caleb Hammer?

  What is this, Brandon? Lindsay?

• 56:51Speaker 04

  Oh shit, hey guys.

• 56:52Caleb Hammer?

  We all know things like this. Obnoxious. Oh, a performative, like cringe lord redditor, redditor. Oh, yes.

• 57:00Speaker 04

  Oh shit, you a beatard? You a beatard, bro?

• 57:04Caleb Hammer?

  You're doing it, so.

• 57:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, he doesn't know. It's, it's all good.

• 57:07Caleb Hammer?

  No one knows.

• 57:08Speaker 04

  Did you make this yourself?

• 57:09Caleb Hammer?

  I've never like, I mean, I, I can, I guess I can be kind of like a verbal bully. I've never wanted to be a physical bully, but I kind of want to kick your ass right now. Now, I don't think I'd necessarily be able to, but I really feel the, there's, I think some natural evolutionary instinct to like.

• 57:25Speaker 04

  He like to.

• 57:25Caleb Hammer?

  Like harm you.

• 57:26Speaker 04

  Do you like Caleb smash? Feel like doing the whole.

• 57:30Caleb Hammer?

  I am nowhere near a cool individual, but you are just. What you are, man, it's just, you are reddited born. Please tell us what a beatard is. Everyone is typing in the document curious because no one knows what this is.

• 57:46Speaker 03

  I honestly, I don't know what that.

• 57:48Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 57:49Speaker 03

  Are you just making shit up?

• 57:50Speaker 04

  No, that's an actual term on Reddit. I don't.

• 57:53Caleb Hammer?

  You are a redditor. Oh, what's happening?

• 57:55Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no.

• 57:56Caleb Hammer?

  He with his gauges and everything. We knew it. Oh, you're a freak.

• 58:00Speaker 04

  I'm not an actual redditor. If anything, I'll look.

• 58:02Caleb Hammer?

  Yes, you are. You're an elder millennial redditor.

• 58:04Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

• 58:05Speaker 03

  You're a lurker. You're a hard lurker.

• 58:07Speaker 04

  So I'm playing Dark Souls. I'll look shit up on like, where's this boss, this and that. Reddit always has the answers. You have one problem currently that someone had 10 years ago. There was always an answer on that specific goddamn problem.

• 58:19Caleb Hammer?

  What's a beatard?

• 58:20Speaker 04

  I don't know. I got it from a game.

• 58:21Caleb Hammer?

  Wouldn't they have the answer for that?

• 58:22Speaker 04

  They could.

• 58:24Speaker 04

  Why don't you look it up real quick? You got the little fancy uh-

• 58:26Caleb Hammer?

  A beatard frequenter of 4chan's notorious random image board.

• 58:31Speaker 03

  Isn't that just you?

• 58:31Caleb Hammer?

  Isn't that what Brandon is?

• 58:34Caleb Hammer?

  Isn't it 4chan?

• 58:36Caleb Hammer?

  She- yes, it is! Let's go into the first one. Should we look at your Reddit history?

• 58:41Speaker 04

  No.

• 58:45Speaker 04

  It's hot in here. Can I uh- Can I go make a call?

• 58:50Speaker 03

  Stop.

• 58:50Speaker 04

  It's very hot.

• 58:51Caleb Hammer?

  Is that a joke?

• 58:51Speaker 04

  It's very-

• 58:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, you should joke.

• 58:53Caleb Hammer?

  Is he making a joke? He's doing like elder millennial performance, cringe lord, predator.

• 58:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:58Speaker 04

  It's very hot right now.

• 58:59Caleb Hammer?

  And you like this, and you- you get- this gets you wet. This is like, that's impressive.

• 59:03Speaker 03

  My day's never boring.

• 59:05Caleb Hammer?

  You're biological.

• 59:06Speaker 03

  My day's never boring.

• 59:07Caleb Hammer?

  This is- it's very- he is elder millennial cringe lord. Everyone, look at the shirt.

• 59:12Speaker 04

  What? Oh, yeah. I just thought I'd, you know- Oh, oh, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

• 59:19Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, there's a ponytail. I never even saw that.

• 59:21Speaker 04

  A ponytail? Oh no, it's braided.

• 59:23Speaker 03

  I braided his hair before we came on this-

• 59:25Caleb Hammer?

  Bro, oh my goodness.

• 59:28Speaker 04

  I got a long hair, you know? Sometimes if I wanna make it easy for her when she pulls my hair, you know, it's good shit.

• 59:32Caleb Hammer?

  I'm okay saying that. I- I won't get cancelled saying this because you're a white man, but we need to put people like you in a camp. This shit is- dude, we need to-

• 59:39Speaker 04

  Wait, is it for concentration?

• 59:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, [bleep] kill me now. Anywho, so-

• 59:46Caleb Hammer?

  That's what I was advocating for in Minecraft. So, whose card is this? This Venture 1?

• 59:52Speaker 03

  Mine.

• 59:53Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 59:53Speaker 03

  He doesn't have any credit cards.

• 59:54Caleb Hammer?

  You're the one that makes money. What the [bleep] is wrong with you? It's red, which means-

• 59:58Speaker 04

  What is it? What is it? There's fees being a-

• 1:00:00Caleb Hammer?

  What the [bleep] is wrong with you? Stacy, what the possible [bleep] is wrong with you?

• 1:00:05Speaker 03

  I- I didn't have a debit card for a little bit. When I- when I left the house, I didn't-

• 1:00:10Speaker 05

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• 1:00:39Speaker 03

  Have a debit card, yeah.

• 1:00:40Caleb Hammer?

  Why?

• 1:00:41Speaker 03

  I took- I just didn't have time.

• 1:00:43Caleb Hammer?

  Digital? What are you- huh?

• 1:00:44Speaker 03

  I- I-

• 1:00:45Caleb Hammer?

  What are you [bleep] Apple Pay?

• 1:00:46Speaker 03

  I- I didn't have- I don't have Apple Pay.

• 1:00:48Speaker 04

  Apple Pay's dumb.

• 1:00:49Speaker 03

  What? I don't wanna use Apple Pay.

• 1:00:51Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 1:00:51Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:00:52Speaker 04

  I hate Apple.

• 1:00:53Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 1:00:53Speaker 03

  Isn't that a, is that an iPhone thing?

• 1:00:54Caleb Hammer?

  Yes, you're a redditor Android user. We know who you are.

• 1:00:57Speaker 04

  I use Reddit. I just use it for the answers. Jesus.

• 1:01:00Caleb Hammer?

  Then, if you look at your history.

• 1:01:04Speaker 04

  Oh, I can't log in.

• 1:01:05Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 1:01:06Speaker 04

  Damn, yeah, crazy shit. Actually, you know.

• 1:01:08Caleb Hammer?

  You're so cooked right now.

• 1:01:10Speaker 04

  Craziest shit, you know, they actually like just deleted the app. It's the whole thing.

• 1:01:16Speaker 03

  Anyways, what happened was I just quickly left the house. I took half the money out of the bank account and then I didn't open a bank account until like-

• 1:01:25Caleb Hammer?

  I hate him. He's the worst.

• 1:01:27Speaker 04

  I get that a lot.

• 1:01:28Caleb Hammer?

  He's the worst human I've ever met. I've said that a few times, but you are still, you beat them.

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  You my top 10?

• 1:01:34Caleb Hammer?

  No, you're the worst.

• 1:01:35Speaker 04

  Top 5.

• 1:01:36Caleb Hammer?

  Number 1 is what I'm saying.

• 1:01:38Speaker 04

  Number 2.

• 1:01:38Caleb Hammer?

  When I say the worst, it means the worst.

• 1:01:40Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:01:44Caleb Hammer?

  So, yes, well, what's happened with Stacy?

• 1:01:46Speaker 03

  I, I took all the money or-

• 1:01:48Caleb Hammer?

  Stacy, pause again. I'm sorry. I did ask you and then I interrupted you immediately.

• 1:01:52Speaker 03

  That's okay.

• 1:01:52Caleb Hammer?

  Stacy, as a girl's girl, I must-

• 1:01:55Speaker 03

  Girls girl.

• 1:01:55Caleb Hammer?

  Advocate for you.

• 1:01:56Speaker 04

  Save your girls.

• 1:01:58Caleb Hammer?

  This is when you don't talk. Listen, it's fun right now. This cannot be the guy you're with. I don't, I don't, I don't ever say this in like actual reality, but I'm saying this in reality right now. This is not the guy to be with. It's fun. He was high school. You're a part of friend groups. You probably, you got some good things in common. Congratulations, you got one that cleans. Wonderful. You can get a lot of those. Sounds like you had a shitty ex. Just because the ex was shitty, don't settle with this blue sky redditor freak cringe lord Milan. Please, please, you can do so much better. Stacy, you can do so much better. You, you can go get a solid 5 out of 10. That's gonna be so much better than this guy. You have no idea.

• 1:02:36Speaker 04

  Shit, am I a 6?

• 1:02:38Speaker 03

  I feel like, he's, no one's gonna be as funny as him.

• 1:02:43Caleb Hammer?

  I knew it was coming. I knew. I was gonna say if you said it, you'd come. I knew you were gonna go there. You are the most predictable pathetic mother-

• 1:02:50Speaker 04

  I didn't come yet.

• 1:02:51Caleb Hammer?

  Stacy, please, please leave this man. Stacy, there's a gorgeous man named Mark right behind you that is 10 times better. 10 times better than this pathetic individual.

• 1:03:01Speaker 04

  He's very hot, by the way, I will say.

• 1:03:03Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 1:03:06Speaker 03

  You got the crush on everybody in here.

• 1:03:08Speaker 04

  You gotta pop a blood vessel.

• 1:03:09Speaker 03

  You got Mark, you got Lindsay.

• 1:03:10Caleb Hammer?

  No, no, no.

• 1:03:11Speaker 04

  You're my biggest crush.

• 1:03:12Caleb Hammer?

  I'm just being near you. Is it that good? Is the dick that good? It has to be. There is nothing else that makes sense.

• 1:03:20Speaker 03

  I'm not angry about it.

• 1:03:21Caleb Hammer?

  That has to be it.

• 1:03:24Speaker 03

  I'm not mad.

• 1:03:25Speaker 04

  I get in that shit crazy style.

• 1:03:27Speaker 03

  Dude.

• 1:03:28Caleb Hammer?

  Five months, you're gonna be 15 months in?

• 1:03:32Caleb Hammer?

  Dude, you might be the first guest on the show that kills herself.

• 1:03:35Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 1:03:36Caleb Hammer?

  I don't want you to. You need to leave this man.

• 1:03:39Speaker 04

  She'll kill me before she does herself. I mean, that's just mandatory shit.

• 1:03:44Caleb Hammer?

  I don't wanna look at him. Like, I've never had this struggle. I can't, I sure I have.

• 1:03:49Speaker 03

  He's cute. I think he's cute.

• 1:03:50Caleb Hammer?

  It's not, it's not a matter of looks, dude. It's personality. It's the worst personality I think I've been around.

• 1:04:00Caleb Hammer?

  Leave him. Okay, so what's happened with this? Listen, no matter how bad you are, I will actually just permanently feel bad for you because you're with him. So I won't even yell at you for this. What's going on?

• 1:04:10Speaker 03

  So, just to kinda like restart my story. I left the house before my husband got home.

• 1:04:15Caleb Hammer?

  Please leave the house permanently. Very soon.

• 1:04:19Speaker 03

  I took half the money out of our bank account. And for a little bit, I didn't have a debit card because I was just kinda like fight or flight. Like, get out of there.

• 1:04:26Caleb Hammer?

  You need to fight or flight, get the [bleep] out of this relationship.

• 1:04:29Speaker 03

  I don't wanna fight and flight from everything. But, um, yeah, for what's about a month, I'd say? Maybe like three weeks. I didn't have a debit card, so like I, you know, I paid a lot of stuff with cash. I put a lot of stuff on the credit card. I needed stuff for the apartment because we really didn't have much furniture. Oh, well, we had all of our old stuff, but you know, we needed like a couch and like kitchen stuff. So I just put everything on the credit card.

• 1:04:51Speaker 04

  You still wanna do that boneless couch shit?

• 1:04:54Speaker 03

  I don't think now's the time to talk about a boneless couch.

• 1:04:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, fair enough. It's fair. It's fair.

• 1:05:00Speaker 03

  Um, but yeah, or is, or is that one, the one I put my lawyer fees on? I think that's what.

• 1:05:05Caleb Hammer?

  I don't know. I don't know. How would I know? I'm not the guy who spent shit on this. I don't see, I don't see your entire purchase history of your life. I see the last month and what does last month say? It says past due. Why are you past due?

• 1:05:16Speaker 03

  I don't think it was past due.

• 1:05:17Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, you were past due. Stacy, are you?

• 1:05:21Caleb Hammer?

  You were past due. If it says past due, it means past due. Past due is past due. It's right there. That is late. Not, maybe not credit statement late, but it is past due.

• 1:05:30Speaker 03

  I didn't think about it at the time. I was going through a lot.

• 1:05:32Caleb Hammer?

  What were you going through, going through a lot? You were with him. You're going through a lot daily. I get it. I understand. Take that one.

• 1:05:39Speaker 03

  Well, in the very beginning, I was sleeping on the floor of the apartment and you weren't moved in yet. That was pretty hard.

• 1:05:43Caleb Hammer?

  Air mattress.

• 1:05:44Speaker 03

  Pretty sad.

• 1:05:45Caleb Hammer?

  Air mattress. Not any better. Uh, yeah, I'll take that one on the chin.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  And at that time I didn't work for like a month.

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  I took a break. I was going through a lot. I needed a break.

• 1:05:58Caleb Hammer?

  Are you getting madder and madder? And no, I'm not getting, I'm, I'm just honestly, I'm shutting down. I'm shutting down, man. You're just. You want to? I just need you to stop talking. Okay. I would like to continue with her. It's just like, oh my goodness. You want to kiss a little? You've been late two months this year.

• 1:06:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:19Caleb Hammer?

  Why?

• 1:06:21Speaker 03

  I.

• 1:06:21Caleb Hammer?

  Still wants to see her as of a couple of months ago, meaning it's probably been worse at this point. Stacy, what the are you doing? Is this why you're actually with him? Because you wouldn't be able to survive on your own? Cause you're right. I don't think you'd be able to, not if you're behind on credit cards. If that's actually the reason, tell me afterwards when he's not here and we can rescue you. Cause you need to get the away from this loser. Do not have kids with him. If this is the reason, I understand it. That is a valid reason to feel that way. Feel.

• 1:06:48Speaker 03

  I, I can't, I can't give you a good reason why I was past due.

• 1:06:52Caleb Hammer?

  Reason you won't leave. Stacy, is it? Please? No, you can tell me afterwards. I get it. I get it. I wouldn't say it on camera either. Tell me afterwards and we'll get you a hotel for a month or something, dude. We need to get you out of this. Five stars? Get you out of this. We gotta get you out of this, man. Discover it. What's going on?

• 1:07:13Speaker 03

  My Discover card is the one I put all my.

• 1:07:15Caleb Hammer?

  I'm sorry. No, I didn't even say the balance of the last one. So distracted by this creature. Okay. Uh, okay. Venture one. You owe $9,518.33. Yeah, you're in your behind a couple of months. It's probably like a normally like 250 payment, I'm gonna say. Of course, you're behind, you're getting fees added, interest is accruing, it takes 26 to pay off. If you're still with him at that point, you will have lived the worst life.

• 1:07:43Caleb Hammer?

  I need, you can have a better life. It must be hard because you guys have a shared friend group, right?

• 1:07:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:48Caleb Hammer?

  Shit, so you can't. You can't because if you leave, then the finances are harder and that shit. Then, ah shit. And then the friend group, oh, what have you done to yourself? You didn't have to do this, you should not have mixed. You should not have mixed fun and friends. It's a mess. It all explodes in the end.

• 1:08:14Speaker 03

  Not to be fair, I don't talk to a lot of the people, honestly.

• 1:08:17Caleb Hammer?

  Good, so it doesn't matter. Please, just go on.

• 1:08:19Speaker 03

  I kinda hate everybody. I'm fine.

• 1:08:21Speaker 04

  So it's true. It's crazy, they don't fucking hate me, I mean, Jesus Christ. You let me come on the show wearing a shirt that says PP poo poo poo poo PP PP poo poo? I mean, fuck me, man, like, this is bad.

• 1:08:33Caleb Hammer?

  I'm getting audible reactions from people behind you that are shaking their head no. You are...

• 1:08:41Speaker 04

  I'm what?

• 1:08:42Caleb Hammer?

  Nobody likes you. I'm so sorry to say this, this is so mean, but nobody likes you. That's too mean, no, no, no, that's like too mean.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  Honestly, it's really fair, like...

• 1:08:50Caleb Hammer?

  No, no, no, no, pause, like, I call people c**s and sluts and all this stuff, but it's always cheeky and it's always, it's with fun. When I say nobody likes you, I mean it, and that's like, that, that feels too mean. It feels too mean, like, I feel bad.

• 1:09:02Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:09:03Caleb Hammer?

  No, no, no, no, I feel bad, let me feel bad, shut up, you can't tell me how I feel. I feel bad.

• 1:09:07Speaker 03

  Take it.

• 1:09:08Caleb Hammer?

  Oh.

• 1:09:09Speaker 03

  Okay, never mind.

• 1:09:10Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:09:11Speaker 03

  No, nothing.

• 1:09:12Caleb Hammer?

  What's up? Randy, can you join me for the second half of this? I just need, I need someone to bounce it out, I need just a normal guy. Oh... You're like the embodiment of like, na na, honey, I'm good.

• 1:09:27Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:09:28Speaker 03

  Gotta go through life with a good attitude, or try to.

• 1:09:31Caleb Hammer?

  I'm technically a millennial, but like, yeah, and I'm okay with it. I have no problem with my generation or the generation below me, your generation. I have a problem with you. You. I love you, Papa.

• 1:09:42Speaker 04

  Hammer.

• 1:09:46Caleb Hammer?

  Brandon, I can't, I can't.

• 1:09:47Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:09:48Caleb Hammer?

  Can't.

• 1:09:49Speaker 04

  Let it flow.

• 1:09:49Caleb Hammer?

  What do you, how do you actually feel about this? I have to know. You had to be just struggling right now.

• 1:09:56Speaker 03

  I do feel a little tense. This is a little hard.

• 1:09:59Speaker 04

  A little?

• 1:10:00Caleb Hammer?

  Well, this guy is just doing this. He's handling it well? He's handling it well?

• 1:10:07Speaker 03

  He's cracking jokes.

• 1:10:08Caleb Hammer?

  This is well jokes.

• 1:10:10Speaker 03

  I don't know if I'm handling it well.

• 1:10:12Caleb Hammer?

  No, I'm. Starbucks is bull and a waste of money. And you already know that by making your coffee at home and investing the rest. So now you need to do that with your energy drink as well. Make gamer subs at home for just 40 cents a serving. And honestly, it literally tastes better. And we proved this accidentally via a blind taste test in our Hammer Elite show, Fat and Fatter.

• 1:10:38Speaker 06

  The number one ranked energy drink is gamer subs. Literally, the cherry flavor is insane.

• 1:10:44Caleb Hammer?

  Listen, you can also get free samples to see if you like it. Or 10% off your order at gamersubs.gg. Or click that link in the description below, type in code Caleb. Stop bleeding out money making minimum payments across multiple high interest accounts. Most Americans are spending hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars that could be going toward actually paying down debt instead of lining some banks' pockets. And look, if you're sitting on high interest credit card debt, a car loan at 18% or, oh my goodness, a payday loan charging you triple digit interest rates. You need to hear this. If you've already cut up the cards and built better financial habits, but you're still drowning in interest payments, barely making progress, this is for you.

• 1:11:28Caleb Hammer?

  I have opened my very own marketplace, a personal loan marketplace that lets you get personalized offers from multiple lenders in one place. You can see if you pre-qualify in minutes and it won't impact your credit score. But here's the deal. This isn't a magic bullet. If you refinance your debt but keep swiping, you're just making the problem worse. You still need to fix the behavior that screwed you. In the first place, but if you're serious about getting out of debt faster, you could potentially lower your monthly payment by securing a single payment at a much better rate. Check out the link in the description below to see your personalized offers or go to Calebhammer.com. And remember, you've still gotta do the work. That's well, what is he like normally?

• 1:12:13Caleb Hammer?

  Please, just maybe you could, sometimes we do guest translations. Translate for me what the fuck I'm trying to say, because I don't even know what I'm trying to say. I'm shutting down here out of just millennial cringe, please, please. You have very pretty eyes. I'm gonna write down some numbers, please do some things to translate for me.

• 1:12:32Speaker 06

  You, sir.

• 1:12:33Caleb Hammer?

  Yes.

• 1:12:33Speaker 06

  Are incredibly cringey.

• 1:12:35Caleb Hammer?

  That's fair.

• 1:12:35Speaker 06

  You're coming across like a 4chan redditor crossbreed.

• 1:12:40Caleb Hammer?

  Yes.

• 1:12:42Speaker 06

  Not a compliment.

• 1:12:44Caleb Hammer?

  Good. How should he behave?

• 1:12:47Speaker 06

  Like an adult, like a normal adult. You say, Caleb, you have a really good point there.

• 1:12:52Caleb Hammer?

  I will take that into heavy consideration.

• 1:12:56Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:12:59Caleb Hammer?

  Are you tensing up? What advice would you give for him? Because I mean, Brandon's a cool dude, he, you know,

• 1:13:06Caleb Hammer?

  he's also friends with his high school people, but you know, they're, they're cool people. They're probably everything you wish you were, I'll be honest. What advice would you give for this man so that he could act just like a normal person?

• 1:13:20Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:13:21Caleb Hammer?

  Because he fucking needs it.

• 1:13:22Speaker 06

  What I recommend.

• 1:13:23Caleb Hammer?

  All right.

• 1:13:23Speaker 06

  Is you try to do something cool after high school.

• 1:13:26Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 1:13:27Speaker 06

  So that you don't have to keep referencing high school.

• 1:13:30Caleb Hammer?

  Elaborate.

• 1:13:31Speaker 06

  Like, okay, like you commit crime and then.

• 1:13:35Caleb Hammer?

  Right.

• 1:13:36Speaker 06

  Work for the maintenance. But if you didn't do that, you could do something really, really, really cool and level up. And then you could impress her as opposed to embarrass her in front of the millions.

• 1:13:49Caleb Hammer?

  You know what? Honest answer. You make a very good point. Then why do you keep behaving this way? I ain't gonna lie, man. On the show. I'm pretty goddamn nervous. I'm about to piss my pants. It's okay to be nervous. Everyone's nervous who comes on the show. That happens three to four times a week. Every upload you see is nervous people. People don't act like you. Fair. She says this is you doing well. She said he's doing well.

• 1:14:11Speaker 04

  Think I'm doing well?

• 1:14:12Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 1:14:13Speaker 04

  Really appreciate it.

• 1:14:14Caleb Hammer?

  You're doing it again.

• 1:14:17Speaker 04

  You do make a good point.

• 1:14:17Caleb Hammer?

  What is this? What would you call that? We keep calling it Reddit and maybe that's what it is. What is that? Nobody asks like that.

• 1:14:24Speaker 04

  This point, it's Twitter. I mean, Jesus Christ.

• 1:14:31Speaker 03

  I don't have a Twitter.

• 1:14:32Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, that's fine. You're saying he's doing well? What is he like normally? This is a personality audit real quick for the last 10 minutes.

• 1:14:40Speaker 03

  I mean, he's usually like that. He's pretty, yeah.

• 1:14:43Caleb Hammer?

  This is a normal occurrence.

• 1:14:44Speaker 03

  I'd say it's pretty normal. It's pretty on brand for him.

• 1:14:51Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  It's never boring. It's never boring.

• 1:14:54Speaker 06

  I think we would prefer boring.

• 1:14:56Caleb Hammer?

  Boring would be great.

• 1:14:57Speaker 06

  Boring. If the alternative is boring? That sounds kinda sick.

• 1:15:03Speaker 04

  You know, how about, how about we do this? Can I throw a genuine suggestion out there? How about I do genuinely five minutes of boredom? And then we can see the difference. Does that sound good?

• 1:15:14Caleb Hammer?

  I don't know about boredom. I just want you to act normal. So.

• 1:15:18Speaker 04

  Okay, so five minutes of normalcy. How about that?

• 1:15:20Caleb Hammer?

  Normalcy would be great. Why don't you just act like a human? Yes. You don't have to be cringe lord Reddit 4chan freak.

• 1:15:26Speaker 04

  Got it.

• 1:15:27Caleb Hammer?

  What? In life. It's a personality audit. I'm just telling you to fucking do. Again, I'm not a perfect embodiment of just like.

• 1:15:35Speaker 06

  I just saw a shirt.

• 1:15:37Speaker 04

  Oh shit, really?

• 1:15:40Caleb Hammer?

  I'm just so proud of it. Did you see that? Oh my.

• 1:15:44Speaker 04

  I tie dyed it semi recently.

• 1:15:46Caleb Hammer?

  He did his own tie dye.

• 1:15:47Speaker 04

  Oh, she helped me with that.

• 1:15:49Caleb Hammer?

  Do not enable this.

• 1:15:50Speaker 04

  I thought we had five minutes of normal. I'm being genuine.

• 1:15:54Caleb Hammer?

  No, I know you're being genuine.

• 1:15:55Speaker 04

  You know what?

• 1:15:55Speaker 03

  It was fun.

• 1:15:56Speaker 04

  Five minutes of normalcy starts now.

• 1:15:57Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 1:15:58Speaker 04

  We'll start it now.

• 1:16:01Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, who's the discover it? Who is it?

• 1:16:03Speaker 03

  Me.

• 1:16:04Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, what the fuck is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? I get it. I'd be cop spending like crazy.

• 1:16:09Speaker 03

  Amazon. Amazon. Yeah, that has all my Amazon purchases on it.

• 1:16:16Caleb Hammer?

  He has a gun, right?

• 1:16:18Speaker 03

  He does? Yeah, I have one too.

• 1:16:19Speaker 04

  It is locked. It is back at home, locked in a gun safe. About to say security.

• 1:16:25Caleb Hammer?

  And yours?

• 1:16:26Speaker 04

  Who has access to the safe?

• 1:16:28Caleb Hammer?

  Just me.

• 1:16:28Speaker 04

  And that's the problem, dude.

• 1:16:30Speaker 03

  I have my own safe. That's where I keep all my cash.

• 1:16:33Caleb Hammer?

  Yours is in your safe?

• 1:16:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:16:34Caleb Hammer?

  You have access to it?

• 1:16:35Speaker 03

  My own safe, yes.

• 1:16:37Caleb Hammer?

  Can we please make sure you have no access to any weapon that can be put in a mouth?

• 1:16:42Speaker 03

  Oh, okay.

• 1:16:43Caleb Hammer?

  In the future, because I don't know how long you're gonna be on this earth.

• 1:16:46Speaker 04

  I like to think that's a reasonable request.

• 1:16:48Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:16:49Speaker 04

  Five minutes of normalcy.

• 1:16:50Speaker 06

  We made it.

• 1:16:51Caleb Hammer?

  Starting now?

• 1:16:52Speaker 06

  We made it 90 seconds.

• 1:16:52Caleb Hammer?

  Again?

• 1:16:53Speaker 06

  We made it 90 seconds.

• 1:16:54Caleb Hammer?

  God damn it.

• 1:16:55Speaker 03

  We should start a timer.

• 1:16:56Speaker 06

  I can do that.

• 1:16:57Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:16:58Speaker 06

  Should I do that?

• 1:17:00Speaker 04

  Alright.

• 1:17:00Caleb Hammer?

  Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Google. Okay, let's just show me your Amazon, dude. This is what the fuck?

• 1:17:07Speaker 04

  Hers are.

• 1:17:08Caleb Hammer?

  Shut your dick. Are you the upgrade? Are you this guy? Is this you? Is this you? Is this you?

• 1:17:15Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:17:16Speaker 03

  I think that's your... I think that's my Klarna. Is that...

• 1:17:20Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, probably. Give me your Amazon.

• 1:17:22Speaker 03

  Okay, okay. Amazon? You want me to take it to orders?

• 1:17:27Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:28Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:17:28Caleb Hammer?

  Show me your Amazon. Amazon, thank you. They are an Android household. I... It's all...

• 1:17:35Speaker 03

  It's the plan.

• 1:17:37Caleb Hammer?

  That means nothing to me.

• 1:17:38Speaker 03

  It's cool!

• 1:17:39Caleb Hammer?

  Shut up. You have a girl? Okay, maybe you guys are made for each other. My goodness, I just... I don't understand. Why'd you want... Let's go back to your fucking just... Your absolute dream.

• 1:17:50Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:17:51Caleb Hammer?

  High school. Why did you want her so bad? What was like... What are you fucking going in?

• 1:17:56Speaker 04

  So, I'm gonna give you a general or genuine answer. No bullshit.

• 1:18:00Caleb Hammer?

  Why would you bullshit me?

• 1:18:01Speaker 04

  Because I've been me the whole time. So...

• 1:18:03Caleb Hammer?

  He's been me the whole time? So be you!

• 1:18:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm being me. So, I really was into her in high school because we shared a lot of general interests that I didn't really have in common with a lot of people. Her knowledge on like retro gaming stuff was... She was the one other person who could really go toe-to-toe with me on it. We agreed on a lot of philosophies and whatnot and I'd like to think we still have the same outlook on life.

• 1:18:31Caleb Hammer?

  What is that? I need to know. What are people like you even believing these days?

• 1:18:34Speaker 04

  Uh, just as... Is that a broad question or...

• 1:18:37Caleb Hammer?

  Outlook on life.

• 1:18:38Speaker 04

  Okay, um...

• 1:18:40Speaker 04

  Don't be a dick. I mean.

• 1:18:42Speaker 03

  That's pretty.

• 1:18:42Caleb Hammer?

  You've been kind of a dick, but I have too, but that's my show.

• 1:18:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, fair enough.

• 1:18:46Caleb Hammer?

  Um. Also, the cheating thing, not great. Line, not good. Continue. You're breaking your policy. Continue. What's your outlook?

• 1:18:52Speaker 04

  It's pretty policy breaking. Um, I mean, just in general, like,

• 1:18:58Speaker 04

  love your life how you want. We're not all here for a long time, but a fun time and.

• 1:19:02Caleb Hammer?

  You guys have a very unique outlook. You're right. No one else believes those things. Don't be a dick and live life.

• 1:19:11Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, yeah, you would have never met anyone else who thought that. I don't know. Politics?

• 1:19:17Speaker 04

  I don't like doing politics. It's just gets fucking money.

• 1:19:21Caleb Hammer?

  Doing it? You don't have beliefs?

• 1:19:22Speaker 04

  Sorry. I don't like discussing politics in general. They get money.

• 1:19:25Caleb Hammer?

  We're not gonna discuss to say what your beliefs are.

• 1:19:27Speaker 04

  Perfect. Just what I believe in.

• 1:19:29Caleb Hammer?

  What are your beliefs?

• 1:19:30Speaker 04

  Uh.

• 1:19:32Caleb Hammer?

  Core, core, core.

• 1:19:33Speaker 04

  Okay, core beliefs. Um, I, I think taxes are fair to a certain extent, as long as they're not ridiculous. I want to keep my gun. Don't take away my land. That's all.

• 1:19:43Caleb Hammer?

  Shit, he's more libertarian, but he seems like a leftist millennial. I'm so confused.

• 1:19:48Speaker 04

  Is that libertarian?

• 1:19:50Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:50Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. Is that anti-government, like?

• 1:19:54Caleb Hammer?

  Well, you don't even know where your political beliefs.

• 1:19:56Speaker 04

  I just consider myself independent. I don't like picking a fucking side, to be honest.

• 1:20:00Speaker 03

  I don't think we're educated enough to have an opinion.

• 1:20:02Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:20:02Caleb Hammer?

  You know what? That's a good philosophy. Keep that and don't vote.

• 1:20:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:08Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, okay. Yeah, you're bringing a lot of kids things. You have a kid?

• 1:20:11Speaker 03

  No, but it's for my nephew's birthday. He just turned two.

• 1:20:15Caleb Hammer?

  I don't even care about this anymore.

• 1:20:16Speaker 03

  He's just turned two.

• 1:20:17Caleb Hammer?

  Are we honest?

• 1:20:17Speaker 04

  That was quick.

• 1:20:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:20:24Speaker 04

  Uh, Ticketmaster.

• 1:20:25Speaker 03

  Ticketmaster.

• 1:20:26Caleb Hammer?

  Gay Ticketmaster?

• 1:20:28Speaker 03

  We just saw.

• 1:20:29Caleb Hammer?

  Monferrin's Sons of Monsters and Men.

• 1:20:31Speaker 03

  They need the money. We had to see him. That was so good.

• 1:20:35Speaker 04

  That was a fun concert.

• 1:20:36Speaker 03

  That was so fun. Oh, my gosh. He killed it.

• 1:20:39Speaker 04

  Reddit?

• 1:20:40Speaker 03

  You should have seen his poster. Oh, my God.

• 1:20:43Caleb Hammer?

  I like him as a, I think I like him as a dude. I don't know. I mean, I've texted a couple of times. He almost came on the show. Like, I have nothing against him, but you guys are just, why are you the most stereotypical people ever? Like the whitest kids? Okay.

• 1:20:57Speaker 03

  He didn't say.

• 1:20:59Speaker 04

  Oh, fair enough.

• 1:21:00Speaker 03

  Also, some of that is probably ever clear.

• 1:21:03Caleb Hammer?

  I direct.

• 1:21:04Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:21:05Caleb Hammer?

  I buy direct glasses. That's fine. Listen, that's not the issue. The issue is.

• 1:21:09Speaker 04

  Where you got these from?

• 1:21:12Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, the glasses. That's what she got from the glasses place.

• 1:21:14Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:21:16Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, ninety-three dollars eighty-nine cents is your minimum there. Two hundred fifty dollars seventy-three cents is your payment.

• 1:21:26Speaker 04

  Very durable calculator. Shut up. Fair enough.

• 1:21:30Caleb Hammer?

  Thank you, Brendan. I appreciate you. And that's you. You are you. You are my translator here because that's exactly what I was thinking.

• 1:21:39Caleb Hammer?

  That's exactly what I was thinking. You can also translate my desire to kick his ass if you ever feel like it.

• 1:21:47Speaker 04

  I I think that's pretty straightforward.

• 1:21:48Caleb Hammer?

  Yes, I would just like to see it happen.

• 1:21:50Speaker 04

  Yes, sir.

• 1:21:51Caleb Hammer?

  I did not say that. I did not think that.

• 1:21:53Speaker 04

  No, you thought it.

• 1:21:54Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, a car, I think, is what I'm seeing here.

• 1:21:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:21:59Caleb Hammer?

  Of twenty thousand. It was a twenty thousand dollar car.

• 1:22:01Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. So it's my turn. Yes, it is a Toyota Camry SE. So twenty twenty-one.

• 1:22:07Caleb Hammer?

  Hasn't that been your turn this entire episode?

• 1:22:09Speaker 04

  No, you've been speaking the entire time.

• 1:22:11Caleb Hammer?

  Yes.

• 1:22:13Speaker 04

  You're retarded.

• 1:22:15Caleb Hammer?

  Your Toyota Camry.

• 1:22:16Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:22:17Caleb Hammer?

  How do you feel about the word?

• 1:22:19Speaker 04

  I don't give a shit. Words are words, man.

• 1:22:21Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, he did. No, okay, okay.

• 1:22:23Speaker 04

  You can call me the most up shit you really want. At the end of the day, I could really give a shit how you feel about me. What I care about.

• 1:22:30Caleb Hammer?

  Give a shit?

• 1:22:30Speaker 04

  No, I don't give a shit. Oh, sorry. I could not give a shit about how you really feel as long as you're just honest with it. You can call me the most up shit to my face and I'll shake your hand afterwards.

• 1:22:41Caleb Hammer?

  I'm not touching you.

• 1:22:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't blame you. I washed my hands after I pissed, so don't worry.

• 1:22:45Caleb Hammer?

  So you should blame me then.

• 1:22:47Speaker 04

  About. Wait, what?

• 1:22:49Speaker 03

  Why are you blaming me for not touching you? Then, you know, why, like, wouldn't he want to shake your hand?

• 1:22:54Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:54Speaker 04

  He doesn't have to shake my hand.

• 1:22:56Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 1:22:57Speaker 04

  At the end of the day, but I'll go out and offer you a handshake.

• 1:23:00Caleb Hammer?

  No, no.

• 1:23:00Speaker 04

  Well, there you go. See? I love you.

• 1:23:05Speaker 04

  So yeah, about the car, um, pretty much what happened with that is I got a.

• 1:23:09Speaker 06

  Why do you keep saying that you love me? Well, him.

• 1:23:14Speaker 04

  I desire touch.

• 1:23:19Caleb Hammer?

  You don't have to be with him. You really don't.

• 1:23:22Speaker 04

  I had a.

• 1:23:23Caleb Hammer?

  Everett, apparently not a small town. Lots of other people you went to high school with, if that's the requirement.

• 1:23:27Speaker 04

  A lot of gross people there.

• 1:23:29Speaker 06

  Example A.

• 1:23:30Speaker 04

  Uh, I'm from Snohomish at that. Yeah. Okay. I'll take that. So yeah, I got the.

• 1:23:36Caleb Hammer?

  What the did you just say?

• 1:23:38Speaker 04

  I got the car.

• 1:23:39Caleb Hammer?

  No, what did you just say? That was, that wasn't English.

• 1:23:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, it wasn't gonna make sense.

• 1:23:43Speaker 03

  Well, actually, I'm from Snohomish. That's what she said.

• 1:23:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:23:46Caleb Hammer?

  A different town?

• 1:23:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:23:48Caleb Hammer?

  Like we care? No. Oh, my dude.

• 1:23:51Speaker 04

  So should I go into the car or do you?

• 1:23:54Caleb Hammer?

  Yes, please.

• 1:23:54Speaker 04

  Okay, cool. So I had a high end Elantra. It was 2016, couple of years back. That got totaled. Wasn't my fault. Car was parked, someone backed into it, knocked it 10 feet. Um, so the insurance policy I had, because it was full coverage, enterprise gave me a loaner. It was the same car I have now. I love that car. Great. Reliable. Uh, went to enterprise then, put a, or I got it on a zero down loan because I didn't have the money at the time and still paying it off.

• 1:24:24Caleb Hammer?

  Why'd you have to say all that to say you got a zero down loan car?

• 1:24:28Speaker 04

  I'm just Lord dumping, man. I mean, what do you want me to?

• 1:24:30Caleb Hammer?

  What? It had nothing to do with anything. I don't know.

• 1:24:36Caleb Hammer?

  To tell you about my current car now, do I have to tell you about my first car I got from my fucking family?

• 1:24:42Speaker 04

  I would have asked how you got it, to be fair.

• 1:24:44Caleb Hammer?

  And what did I'm starting back with my previous cars? I would have just said I went to the dealership and purchased.

• 1:24:50Speaker 04

  Is this the part where you translate for him or?

• 1:24:52Caleb Hammer?

  Shut up.

• 1:24:53Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:24:57Speaker 03

  I don't think that car is worth it.

• 1:24:58Caleb Hammer?

  It actually is. It's worth nineteen thousand, you know, nineteen thousand eight hundred. So what I would actually do is sell it and borrow eleven thousand dollars, get a ten thousand dollar car, use the one and pay it off. Do you want a truck? Honestly, I don't give a fuck. Can I? I don't care. For what it's worth.

• 1:25:16Caleb Hammer?

  This actually sucks the feel and I think I felt it counted on one hand in the, how many episodes have we uploaded?

• 1:25:26Caleb Hammer?

  Over five hundred? Um, and I can count on one hands, people that like, hey, you can do that, but if you don't, like, I don't give a. I just don't care if it doesn't work. It's just like, I care about you because you're a person.

• 1:25:44Caleb Hammer?

  Unfortunately, you're not. Yeah. Uh, so it's just like.

• 1:25:50Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, you got it eight percent. Sucks for you, man. Yes. Do something with that. I don't know. Think I got it at six thirty credit. I don't care. Is that in another story? I don't, please don't tell me. No, just comment. When I ask your credit score, is it gonna be what your first credit score ever was when you first saw it? Sorry, I'm being mean. Okay, you gotta stop, Colton, I'm being mean. I'm sorry, please. Shit, keep going, bro. Brandon, I'm being mean, please. Lindsay, Mika, everyone, audience, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to. You don't, if, go to, go to like a, like, I am a nerd. I'm a nerd. I like going to like the mother, board game places that you can like play things. I like that. That's fun. But just go to one, find the most millennial looking individual, sit across from him for an ex, for an hour, thirty minutes, which is what I've done right now, and you will, you will understand the feeling that I'm having.

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• 1:27:05Caleb Hammer?

  Shots, your face. Who has Wells Fargo?

• 1:27:10Speaker 03

  I have Wells Fargo.

• 1:27:13Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, you have a lot of money in there. Five thousand, that's good. Oh, that shit, nope, nope, nope. That's savings. Well, which is, that's good. Well, no, it's not shit, because it went down from seven thousand five hundred. You're figuring out two thousand.

• 1:27:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, to fix my car.

• 1:27:26Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, that is what savings is for. I can appreciate that, but checking went down from two thousand four hundred to five forty-six. And you're getting Mexican food, steamed burgers. Bullshit. You going to a gas station getting some bullshit? What are you going to the gas station getting some bullshit?

• 1:27:39Speaker 03

  Probably a Celsius.

• 1:27:40Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, you are. Okay. Brandon was already looking. He knows what's coming. We all know what's coming.

• 1:27:44Speaker 04

  Right on cue.

• 1:27:45Speaker 03

  They're good.

• 1:27:46Caleb Hammer?

  You don't deserve it. No, you know what? No, no, no, no flavor for them. Get gamer subs. It's forty cents a serving after my discount code. You just ruined it. You were gonna get a free tub, which would be forty cents, well, actually zero cents a serving because it'd be free. Get your free samples. Use my code Caleb. Link in the description below. It's better than energy drinks. Cough. You get nothing.

• 1:28:04Speaker 04

  Fair enough.

• 1:28:04Caleb Hammer?

  I might sneak one to you afterwards.

• 1:28:06Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:28:06Caleb Hammer?

  You get nothing.

• 1:28:07Speaker 03

  I appreciate it. Okay.

• 1:28:08Caleb Hammer?

  Blazing paddles.

• 1:28:11Speaker 03

  Blazing paddles?

• 1:28:13Caleb Hammer?

  Blazing paddles. You can say it again too if you want.

• 1:28:17Speaker 04

  Oh, blazing paddles.

• 1:28:19Caleb Hammer?

  No, not you.

• 1:28:20Speaker 03

  I, I don't know what that is, honestly.

• 1:28:23Caleb Hammer?

  You spent thirty-four dollars there.

• 1:28:25Speaker 03

  I, I couldn't tell you.

• 1:28:26Speaker 04

  A R C C.

• 1:28:27Caleb Hammer?

  Quiet now.

• 1:28:28Speaker 03

  Shut up. He's just making a dumb joke.

• 1:28:32Speaker 04

  Inside joke.

• 1:28:32Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, that's a great place to do it on a podcast with people you don't know in front of millions of people. You are a gem.

• 1:28:38Speaker 04

  I thought so too.

• 1:28:45Speaker 04

  Depending on, depending on your views. How did you?

• 1:28:48Speaker 03

  Still waiting.

• 1:28:49Speaker 04

  Oh, my mom was on meth when she had me.

• 1:28:51Caleb Hammer?

  Oh.

• 1:28:52Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah, hey, see, there you go. Collective, yeah. See, now it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Ice is crazy in Hawaii.

• 1:29:02Speaker 03

  Let's move on.

• 1:29:04Caleb Hammer?

  To getting more bullshit and telling them money and getting more bullshit and half-priced books. Oh, that's where you're going to make it out with your ex. That's great. And go in and get into bullshit, get into bullshit, McDonald's, get into bullshit, faux, get into faux, Razzles.

• 1:29:17Speaker 03

  Good faux.

• 1:29:17Caleb Hammer?

  Razzles for $128 of Razzles.

• 1:29:20Speaker 03

  Razzles. Did we go to Razzles?

• 1:29:21Caleb Hammer?

  What's Razzles? I don't know what it is.

• 1:29:23Speaker 04

  Oh, it's a farm grill.

• 1:29:24Speaker 03

  It's like, yeah.

• 1:29:25Caleb Hammer?

  Well, you sell a lot of money there.

• 1:29:26Speaker 03

  That was the night we had our big fight.

• 1:29:27Caleb Hammer?

  Parking.

• 1:29:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:29Caleb Hammer?

  Cookies, I think. Oh, that's where you confess to being a criminal, which we'll never know more about. It looks likely worse than it is, hopefully, except with you. Maybe not. Maybe it is worse than it looks. Spencer's Gifts, fantastic.

• 1:29:43Caleb Hammer?

  Bullshit, Susie. Okay, bullshit, bullshit. Listen, you're spending a lot of money on bull. I'm just, it's just so much money. It's so stupid. I'm just, I'm just kind of [BLEEP] done. Like, I don't, I don't care. I don't care. I don't like you guys. I mean, you're okay. I really don't like you.

• 1:29:58Speaker 04

  Fair statement.

• 1:29:59Caleb Hammer?

  Am I, can I, okay, I need to vote because I'm going to be actually mean for a second. I need to vote whether or not I should actually be mean because I'm one of those people that doesn't have a filter, but I'm actually filtering myself right now, which is weird and I don't like it, so I want permission. Raise your hand if I should be very mean.

• 1:30:14Speaker 04

  You have a vessel.

• 1:30:16Caleb Hammer?

  Two, two, two out of three. Okay. Fuck, three out of three. Yeah, it was two out of five, then it became three out of five. Okay, so I got the majority support to be mean. I just want to know what it feels like on the side because I just, I would like to just know. Listen, again, um.

• 1:30:32Speaker 04

  I'm all ears.

• 1:30:32Caleb Hammer?

  Aaron, if you could just confess, you were surrounded by one, two, three, four, five, six. How do you, how does it feel to be surrounded by a room of people that legitimately look down on you and don't like you, which no other guest in this show has ever experienced? How does it feel to actually be hated by everyone in this room right now?

• 1:30:48Speaker 04

  I don't really give a shit.

• 1:30:50Caleb Hammer?

  Really?

• 1:30:51Speaker 04

  Yeah. Everyone's got views, man, like.

• 1:30:53Caleb Hammer?

  This isn't views. This is just your personality that people have witnessed and everyone's been sighing and moaning for an hour and 31 minutes and shaking their heads.

• 1:31:00Speaker 04

  And, I mean, no one in here, not even you, obviously, has to like me. I don't care.

• 1:31:06Caleb Hammer?

  I'm just asking how it feels. Nothing, no impact?

• 1:31:09Speaker 04

  Neutral.

• 1:31:09Caleb Hammer?

  Are you sure you can't reflect on it?

• 1:31:12Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:31:12Caleb Hammer?

  And try to just like.

• 1:31:13Speaker 04

  I'll reflect on it later for sure, but like right now, just in the moment, I don't really care. If anything, I feel like I have to take a piss, but, you know.

• 1:31:20Caleb Hammer?

  I know. We'll get there. We'll get there.

• 1:31:23Speaker 06

  Drain it. Thank you. Drain the main vein.

• 1:31:26Caleb Hammer?

  What are you gonna say now? It's a floater. Are you gonna say that next?

• 1:31:29Speaker 06

  No, but that's a good one.

• 1:31:30Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, not really.

• 1:31:33Speaker 06

  You said it. Oh, okay.

• 1:31:35Caleb Hammer?

  I was asking if you can do that next. Is this Navy?

• 1:31:37Speaker 06

  Locking in. Yes, that's mine.

• 1:31:40Caleb Hammer?

  Wow, you're spending a lot of money on bullshit. And honestly, keep doing that. I don't care.

• 1:31:44Speaker 06

  Cool.

• 1:31:45Caleb Hammer?

  Good luck. It's bullshit. It's bullshit. He's f***ing up his entire life. Do any of us give a shit? I don't think so.

• 1:31:53Caleb Hammer?

  It's bullshit. It's bullshit. It's bullshit. It's bullshit. Okay. Hammer financial score. Um, go take a piss. And go f*** off. And I cannot wait for the poster to be done so I'd never have to see you again.

• 1:32:04Speaker 06

  Oh, like?

• 1:32:05Caleb Hammer?

  That's your hammer financial score. Go f*** yourself. Please go pee. That's, that's actually a request. Please never be in front of me. Um, ever again. Oh, he's tripping. He can't even f*** stand. His ponytail's out of his way. We're actually going for a second. I know. This is pathetic. Please, please, please, please. Lindsay, Lindsay, Lindsay, Lindsay. Can you please just come sit here for a second? F you, mate.

• 1:32:30Caleb Hammer?

  Uh, Colton, can you just come here for a little bit?

• 1:32:34Caleb Hammer?

  Can you just go, share this mic with me?

• 1:32:36Speaker 03

  Mine, thank you.

• 1:32:37Caleb Hammer?

  Please just sit down for a second. I'm, I'm, maybe this is being, can you, it is. Can, should she leave him?

• 1:32:44Speaker 03

  How are you feeling? Yes, you should, but how are you feeling?

• 1:32:51Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:32:53Speaker 06

  Huh?

• 1:32:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:32:53Speaker 03

  Wait. Oh.

• 1:32:54Speaker 06

  What's hap?

• 1:32:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:32:55Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:32:56Speaker 06

  What's happening in the post show?

• 1:32:57Caleb Hammer?

  I don't.

• 1:32:58Speaker 03

  I do.

• 1:32:59Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, but before that, before that, ladies and gentlemen, I just need to know. Should she leave him?

• 1:33:05Speaker 06

  Listen, despite looking like a-

• 1:33:07Caleb Hammer?

  I know too much information.

• 1:33:08Speaker 03

  I know too much.

• 1:33:09Speaker 06

  Despite looking like a B finished on your chest, you have a lot of really redeeming qualities.

• 1:33:14Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, guys, I'm talking about just for the sake of her. Oh, in the post show. Okay, well, he's not in here. In the post show, she's gonna f***.

• 1:33:22Speaker 06

  What's happening?

• 1:33:24Speaker 03

  Um. Should we say it?

• 1:33:27Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:28Speaker 03

  I was gonna propose. I was gonna give him a ring.

• 1:33:30Caleb Hammer?

  So this is, this is the moment. This is the moment where we can, this is the moment where we can stop an actual mistake from happening. Please, Lindsay, girl to girl.

• 1:33:38Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:33:40Speaker 03

  Here's the thing, I, five months is too soon. And also- So please don't do it.

• 1:33:47Speaker 03

  Please don't do it.

• 1:33:48Caleb Hammer?

  Five years is too soon. With this man.

• 1:33:49Speaker 03

  I would give it some more time.

• 1:33:51Caleb Hammer?

  With this man.

• 1:33:52Speaker 03

  I think you're caught up in the moment. Also, I understand that ending one relationship, getting into another relationship can feel healing. I, you need more time.

• 1:34:02Caleb Hammer?

  You're married.

• 1:34:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. Still legally. Legally. Well, I was, I was planning on like a long engagement.

• 1:34:10Caleb Hammer?

  I've met abusive partners that are better than this man.

• 1:34:15Speaker 03

  Here's the thing. Now I feel nervous. What? Wait, are you gonna do it? Oh, I don't.

• 1:34:21Caleb Hammer?

  I am heavily advocating for not being with this guy. He is the most cringe individual I've ever met, and he's miserable to be around, being around. I'm so happy he is taking a piss right now.

• 1:34:31Speaker 03

  Now I feel like I need one. Oh my goodness.

• 1:34:34Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, okay. Let's just say it, because I think people are trying to be a little nice right now. And that's okay? Just can we?

• 1:34:41Speaker 03

  I can read the room.

• 1:34:42Caleb Hammer?

  Raise your hand if you think she should not be with him. I'm gonna go.

• 1:34:46Speaker 03

  I, I'm not raising my hand. I think you should wait.

• 1:34:48Caleb Hammer?

  It's just, it's just me and Brandon. Okay. Let's split down the middle.

• 1:34:50Speaker 03

  Well, I think Mika raises his hand too. You're a part of this. You wanna come over here?

• 1:34:53Caleb Hammer?

  Nah.

• 1:34:54Speaker 03

  Okay. I think you should wait.

• 1:34:58Speaker 03

  I think you should wait to propose. I, I personally, he's not my flavor.

• 1:35:03Caleb Hammer?

  You are being so kind.

• 1:35:04Speaker 03

  I'm being very kind. I think he's obnoxious, yes.

• 1:35:09Speaker 03

  But from a casting standpoint, I a hundred percent.

• 1:35:11Caleb Hammer?

  The producers love people that I hate, so that's why they can raise their hand.

• 1:35:14Speaker 03

  Somebody that's gonna yap on camera, yes.

• 1:35:16Caleb Hammer?

  They have to be nice.

• 1:35:18Speaker 03

  No, I just, I see things differently. That's all. I just think it's too soon.

• 1:35:24Caleb Hammer?

  Well, ladies and gentlemen, will it happen? Will it not happen? You'll literally find out if you go and join Hammer Elite right now, because it's going to happen.

• 1:35:32Speaker 03

  You got him a ring. Yeah.

• 1:35:35Caleb Hammer?

  I'll see you there.

• 1:35:36Speaker 03

  I'm stressed out right now. I don't know. Why are you stressed?

• 1:35:39Caleb Hammer?

  Well, this is your moment.

• 1:35:41Speaker 03

  Stacy, is he like this in real life? Does he feel the need? To fill every bit of silence. Is it all right if I take a second?

• 1:35:48Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:35:48Speaker 03

  Okay. Of course. Wow, what's up? Oh, no, I just need a moment. No.

• 1:35:52Speaker 06

  That's a really nice way of her saying [BLEEP] yourself, dude.

• 1:35:54Caleb Hammer?

  You hold on to her with your [BLEEP] of your life.

• 1:35:56Speaker 06

  I think I struck the [BLEEP] powerball every day when I wake up to her. The only one that's gonna feel that way.

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• 1:36:47Caleb Hammer?

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