Episode 374 - Vampire History, Lore & Reddit Scary Stories with Crimes Of

We’re sinking our teeth into all things vampires. Their dark, blood-soaked origins, the spooky, seductive legends and people who truly believe they are vampires. We explore how ancient fears, bizarre medical mysteries, and real historical events shaped the vampire lore we know and love. Then things get extra eerie as we share chilling modern encounters, creepy Reddit stories, and whispers of real-life vampire communities that make it hard to tell where myth ends and reality begins. So come hang with us… just maybe don’t invite anyone inside. Watch part 2 of this episode on the Crime House YouTube channel. Watch the Blood Countess episode of Crimes Of here. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan. Original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:08Corinne Vien?

  We want to suck your blood. Can you guess what we're talking about today? Dracula. Well, sort of.

• 2:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What if I was like, fairies?

• 2:20Corinne Vien?

  Fairies, maybe.

• 2:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 2:22Corinne Vien?

  Who knows? We don't. All we know is that hua hua hua season is still many months away.

• 2:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I thought you were gonna introduce us.

• 2:30Corinne Vien?

  But yeah, sure. Vampires are every day.

• 2:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, and we are?

• 2:33Corinne Vien?

  Two girls, one ghost.

• 2:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two girls, one ghost. We are your ghostesses. That is Corinne.

• 2:39Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm Sabrina. And you might be like, oh, my gosh, new set. Where are you? What the heck?

• 2:43Corinne Vien?

  Wow, it looks so different.

• 2:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's because it is. We are actually at the Crime House Crimes of Studio, where we record the podcast Crimes of.

• 2:52Corinne Vien?

  Yep.

• 2:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we brought Sven. It's very like retro 90s in your basement.

• 2:59Corinne Vien?

  And obviously, we brought some influence to parts of the set, because we've got practical magic, hocus pocus, the craft.

• 3:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It, psycho.

• 3:06Corinne Vien?

  And every once in a while, there's things floating through, like Ouija boards and creepy clown masks and things like that.

• 3:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Goosebumps books here. We've got it all. It's really fun here. And this isn't just any episode. This is a collab episode. And you might be like, oh, who's the guest? It's us.

• 3:24Corinne Vien?

  We're guesting with ourselves.

• 3:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because this is a collab with Crimes of, and we're doing a vampire two-parter. It doesn't matter what order you listen to it. This episode comes out on Sunday, and then the Crimes of episode comes out on Tuesday. This is gonna be a very vampire lore, history Reddit stories, like people's real experiences with very real, very scary potential vampires.

• 3:49Corinne Vien?

  Every single one of them.

• 3:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We believe most things.

• 3:51Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, but I was like, I went in being a little skeptical of people's Reddit stories. Being like, am I really gonna find anything? And then I was like, oh, shit. Vampires are amongst us.

• 4:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What if your cold right now isn't a cold, but it's like you are slowly turning into a vampire?

• 4:06Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God, this is what happens during

• 4:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Transitioning into a vampire.

• 4:09Corinne Vien?

  The tree buds are transitioning me. Yes, go birch tree, go.

• 4:15Corinne Vien?

  Make me a vampire. I shouldn't say that out loud. I don't actually want to be a vampire. Thank you very much. But so we're just gonna walk us through that on the Two Girls and Ghost feed. And then if you hop over to the Crimes of feed, we're gonna be talking about a vampire cult, the Rod Feral cult specifically.

• 4:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The very true, very real true crime case about a vampire cult, which I don't know much about. So I'm scared.

• 4:39Corinne Vien?

  I'll leave you with this one hint.

• 4:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 4:41Corinne Vien?

  This man identified as a like 500 year old vampire and two people died. So.

• 4:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Died or were murdered?

• 4:50Corinne Vien?

  Murdered.

• 4:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, well, we love vampires, not that vampire, but vampires. We love vampires.

• 4:58Corinne Vien?

  We have to say that so that the real life vampires don't come and murder us.

• 5:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would be okay with like becoming a vampire and living the very Twilight life of vampires. But I don't want to live the Nosferatu life of vampires.

• 5:14Corinne Vien?

  And also I feel like there's a difference between a vampire choosing to turn you and a vampire just draining you and leaving you dead.

• 5:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, well, some people do that with their energy.

• 5:27Corinne Vien?

  Energy vampires.

• 5:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, but yeah, let's talk about vampires. There's something very alluring about them. They have a je ne sais quoi. I feel like there needs to be some French accent here.

• 5:37Corinne Vien?

  They're all French.

• 5:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're all from New Orleans and they're all French, right? Do you have a favorite vampire in the pop culture?

• 5:44Corinne Vien?

  How could I not say Edward Cullen after I did my hua hua?

• 5:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hua hua, hua hua. I know you also have a dream of it being Bigfoot, but doing that scene in the trees.

• 5:56Corinne Vien?

  Oh. Where I'm riding on Bigfoot's back.

• 6:01Corinne Vien?

  You think you can out- Run me? No, Bigfoot, but you should try.

• 6:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Point being, there are so many sexy vampires and sexy Bigfoot out there.

• 6:10Corinne Vien?

  Who do you like?

• 6:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um.

• 6:12Corinne Vien?

  You were very into Ms. Frotto, the, the movie.

• 6:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It is a movie.

• 6:16Corinne Vien?

  There's, yeah.

• 6:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's two movies.

• 6:18Corinne Vien?

  Well, that's what I meant, like the new one. You really loved the new one.

• 6:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm into Damon Salvatore.

• 6:24Corinne Vien?

  Oh, fuck. I had a wrong answer. I want to pivot.

• 6:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You want mine?

• 6:27Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 6:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can't have them. It's mine. We can't both have them.

• 6:30Corinne Vien?

  I'll take anyone from Vampire Diaries.

• 6:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Fair. So point being, there are lots of sexy vampires out there, especially in pop culture and the media, because they have spooky woven into their whole lore. Not only are they ancient, but they're also out there biting through flesh, draining blood, and sometimes turning other people into immortal beings along the way. But there's also this very long history that goes way back in regards to vampires, which is what we're going to talk about today.

• 7:00Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, there's the 16th century Countess, who supposedly bathed in the blood of her victim, the Blood Countess. And we even covered her a couple of seasons ago in Crimes of the Paranormal. So you can check out that episode. We'll link it in the show notes.

• 7:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that was a fun one. We've also covered the Vampire of Medvedza. I think that's how you said it.

• 7:20Corinne Vien?

  Medvedza.

• 7:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Medveda, something like that. I said it right back in episode 315. But today, we're going to look into the history, and then we're going to share some possibly very real encounters people have had with vampires walking amongst us today, as found on Reddit, because Reddit is the place to go for scary true stories. And then there have even been cases of modern day vampires grooming their young followers, cases where people have gone missing after getting a little too close to underground vampire circles.

• 7:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, and even cases where someone tried to use vampirism, vampirism? How do I say it? I don't know. But they tried to use it to justify some real, true life crimes.

• 7:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So before we jump into your episode Vampire Cult of Rod Farrel, we are going to take a step back and look at vampire history as a whole. Because where did this idea of undead bloodsuckers come from? And how did it evolve into the sexy vampires that we know it to be today? And then also, what about the people who don't just like vampires, but claim to be vampires?

• 8:19Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 8:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The only thing older than a vampire is the history of vampires, which dates all the way back to what is called the cradle of civilization, ancient Mesopotamia. Sometime between 2,000 and 3,000 B.C., legends emerged about figures like Lamashthu and Lilithu, who were female demons that were said to prey on children and drink their blood. And then the ancient Greeks believed in Empuse, which were shape-shifting demons that fed on humans.

• 8:51Corinne Vien?

  You know, there's a lot of things problematic with the show Ancient Aliens, but I will say like, one of the things that is in common with that show and what you're saying is that there's a lot, across different cultures, across different times, people who didn't communicate with one another have the same lore. So it's like, what are these things? Are they demons? Are they aliens? Are they vampires? How do they have access to everyone?

• 9:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  If they are vampires and they existed in 2,000 to 3,000 B.C., is that same vampire still alive today?

• 9:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, do they actually have a real death? Are they alive forever? Or does it feel like they're alive forever? Because it's like thousands of years and that's all we remember.

• 9:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't think we'll get the answer to that. Okay, and then when we look more modern history, but still far away history, vampires really have a place in Eastern Europe. Countries like Hungary, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, and Eastern Russia have some of the oldest and most detailed vampire stories out there.

• 9:52Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, because I immediately think Transylvania. I feel like that's OG.

• 9:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I think people really think Vlad the Impaler, which we'll get to in a minute. And we did cover on Two Girls and a Ghost as well.

• 10:01Corinne Vien?

  I remember.

• 10:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the earliest written reference of vampires goes all the way back to 1,047 C.E., when the word upir, U.P.I.R., which is the Slavic word for vampire, popped up in a Russian text. And a lot of people believe that it was actually in reference to this prince that people didn't like.

• 10:20Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 10:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it was kind of like an insult to speak about him. But the details beyond that are pretty murky. And then this is what we covered back in episode 350. Fifteen, there was this idea in Romania of strigoi, an undead spirit that rises from the grave to spread disease, cause chaos and drink the blood of the living, which is very much the movie Nosferatu. Like that's Nosferatu was made to explain diseases traveling and like the plague traveling. But the word vampire showed up in like seventeen twenties. This is back, we're talking Habsburg Empire in central eastern Europe, where there were some pretty alarming cases in like the rural areas of vampires or strigoi.

• 11:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is what we covered in episode three fifteen, but there was this story of vampires in this one town that the government literally sent officials to go do a report. And there is a document, a government document that basically says, yes, there is a vampire tormenting the people of this town.

• 11:23Corinne Vien?

  That was a good episode because it kind of made you waffle between is this just some sort of illness and plague? Or was there really a vampire?

• 11:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right, because in seventeen twenty five, a recently buried corpse had been terrorizing the town. That is what is in the government document. And that is when the word vampire starts to come about and takes off. The vampire lore spread across Habsburg Empire and then made their way to France and England throughout the eighteenth century. And then when colonizers went to America, they brought this vampire superstition with them and potentially brought vampires with them, especially those who went to the New Orleans port. Which I think we've also covered that story.

• 12:00Corinne Vien?

  I clearly love vampire lore.

• 12:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the vampires people were describing back then in like seventeen hundreds is pretty different from how we described vampires. Like they weren't as sexy and alluring and wanting to run through the trees with.

• 12:15Corinne Vien?

  Right, they were to be feared. They could take down entire communities.

• 12:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They were said to be bloated and purplish from feeding on blood with overgrown nails and animal-like strength.

• 12:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So like a corpse.

• 12:28Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 12:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A bloated corpse.

• 12:30Corinne Vien?

  And it wasn't just people. Like, I feel like now when we talk about vampires, the idea is kind of like, oh, are they gonna come date you? Or are they gonna come like, just suck your blood? But I feel like a lot of it back then, too, was about livestock dying and also being just, it all goes back to diseases.

• 12:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, perfect segue, because I feel like diseases are specifically what vampires became the scapegoat for. But when we look at the specific diseases, it kind of shows you how the legends that we believe and like the lore we believe about vampires came about. So there are a lot of different diseases. Basically, the point being is back then, people didn't understand the diseases.

• 13:08Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 13:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And so they, and we see this a lot, a lot of the times in history where people would assign it to like a supernatural force because they didn't have the scientific understanding.

• 13:18Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 13:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There are a couple of different diseases that were attributed to being vampire. But one is pellagra, which comes from a dietary deficiency. But it was very unpleasant. I hope no one ever has this. It came with what they called the four Ds: dermatitis, diarrhea, dementia, and death. But what really stands out about this disease is that it caused terrible breath and extreme sensitivity to sunlight.

• 13:47Corinne Vien?

  Oh, okay.

• 13:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which are two notable traits about vampires, like the sensitivity to light. And then I think there's some lore with the bad breath, but.

• 13:57Corinne Vien?

  Is there? It's almost like, I would almost feel like the opposite, because they say onions will keep them away. So I feel like if you have onion breath.

• 14:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Onions keep them away? I thought it was just garlic.

• 14:06Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah, shit, you're right.

• 14:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was like, well, that's new.

• 14:09Corinne Vien?

  Guys, I'm under the weather, that's my excuse.

• 14:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're turning into a vampire, is what's happening.

• 14:13Corinne Vien?

  It's onions, it's onions. I swear, it's just onions, it's garlic, who?

• 14:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, and then there was another, this was a blood disorder called porphyria. And it made people look unusually pale. Vampires, check. And in severe cases, it caused gum recession, making the teeth look longer.

• 14:31Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 14:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like the fangs.

• 14:33Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 14:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Vampire check.

• 14:35Corinne Vien?

  It just feels so terrible for all these people.

• 14:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, but I also love seeing where things come from. Like the same.

• 14:41Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 14:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like the etymology, is that the word? Of words and phrases, where like the history of it and how it came to be. I love that stuff.

• 14:48Corinne Vien?

  I'm also kind of curious how people started to pivot to vampires and the idea of vampires instead of, like, when did we get off blaming gods for everything?

• 14:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Good question.

• 14:58Corinne Vien?

  Right, because it used to be the ancient gods, they're fighting, or they took our crops because we didn't give them enough.

• 15:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I guess the first two, the first couple of vampire-like beings were female demons. So there's like a slow evolution.

• 15:12Corinne Vien?

  Like a fallen angel, fallen god.

• 15:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Okay, so one of the other side effects of porphyria, the blood disorder, was that garlic actually made the symptoms worse. So people who had this blood disorder would avoid garlic at all costs.

• 15:27Corinne Vien?

  Okay, all right, so now we finally have the origin of where garlic came into this.

• 15:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm, garlic repels vampires. And then another disease that has so many direct correlations is rabies.

• 15:38Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 15:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It spreads through biting, which is like quite literally the quintessential vampire thing. It also causes sensitivity to light, erratic sleep, aggressive behavior. All align with vampire stereotypes. These three diseases I just told you about, I'm not going to re-say them because they're hard to say. They can dramatically change how someone looks. And also, some accounts say that patients would refuse to look at their own reflections because it changed how much they look.

• 16:08Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 16:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which adds to the other stereotype or.

• 16:11Corinne Vien?

  That you don't show up.

• 16:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Beliefs about vampires.

• 16:14Corinne Vien?

  In photographs or in mirrors, you won't see the vampire.

• 16:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And when I was researching this, I was like, I love the idea of doctors in the 1700s being like, is it rabies?

• 16:26Corinne Vien?

  Is he a vampire? Or is it vampirism?

• 16:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And most of the time it was vampire.

• 16:31Corinne Vien?

  Vampire. Rabies is so terrifying.

• 16:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 16:33Corinne Vien?

  I would almost rather a vampire.

• 16:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I would for sure rather become a vampire than have rabies.

• 16:38Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, because rabies, that's the end.

• 16:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, there's, if you get the thing quick enough.

• 16:43Corinne Vien?

  Well, then you don't have rabies. You just got treated and stopped.

• 16:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, true.

• 16:47Corinne Vien?

  Stopped it before, but if you actually get it and it fully goes in you.

• 16:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Gets you.

• 16:52Corinne Vien?

  It gets you.

• 16:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Makes me, I think of The Office.

• 16:55Corinne Vien?

  When, okay. Have you never watched? Seen every episode of The Office. You know, that's an unpopular thing to say. I, nothing against it, it just wasn't a series that I.

• 17:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's how I feel with Friends.

• 17:05Corinne Vien?

  Watched the whole thing of.

• 17:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I've watched a ton of different Friends episodes, but I've never watched it beginning to end.

• 17:09Corinne Vien?

  Right, yeah, I only recently did that.

• 17:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, whereas I watch The Office beginning to end like every year.

• 17:15Corinne Vien?

  It's your Gilmore Girls, so many people, I feel like.

• 17:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I also do that with Gilmore Girls.

• 17:19Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 17:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Point being, yes, doctors didn't have the science or understanding of a lot of these diseases. So they were inclined to believe supernatural forces were at work, which in turn created some very interesting postmortem slash death practices. A patient would pass away, they would put the body to rest and the local town would wait. If anyone else got sick, like another illness spread or bad luck or poor harvest or like the animals were dying, something like that, they would be like, oh my gosh, that meant the person that we just buried and made a grave for is actually a vampire.

• 17:57Corinne Vien?

  Is the idea that they just like came back up from the grave and now they're wreaking havoc?

• 18:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 18:01Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so I'm like, what do you mean they're dead?

• 18:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But don't worry, they have a solution for it. They're like, okay, we know it's a vampire, but we know how to take care of this. Don't you worry, we're gonna dig up the body. They would cut open the chest, remove the organs, burn the organs. And then even more gruesome or infamous, some even believe that you were to consume the ashes of said dead vampire because it would cure you.

• 18:25Corinne Vien?

  Or spread the frickin' disease.

• 18:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like the first vaccine.

• 18:31Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, cannibalism, but make it chic. Make it goth.

• 18:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenuvo in a couple of weeks.

• 18:42Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 18:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I recently had some medical issues in my family and everyone in my family is like, "Let's just do everything we can to get ahead and take our own health into our own hands." Prenuvo's whole body scan is a radiation-free MRI designed to help provide a detailed, non-invasive look at your body in under an hour, and it helps evaluate across major organs and systems, including the brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis, and more. Prenuvo's whole body scan can help detect many cancers, aneurysms, and hundreds of other conditions. And they have memberships that bundle MRI scans, blood panels, and a personalized results review to track your health year after year.

• 19:23Corinne Vien?

  To learn more about Prenuvo and get $300 off your whole body MRI, go to prenuvo.com/tgog and use code TGOG. That's P-R-E-N-U-V-O.com/tgog. Terms and conditions apply.

• 19:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Receive $300 off Prenuvo whole body scans and executive and comprehensive memberships through January 31st. For full details, visit Prenuvo's website to read their terms and conditions and privacy notice. Prenuvo gifted me a whole body scan. A Prenuvo scan is a screening service, not diagnostic. Diagnosis and treatment are determined by your healthcare provider.

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• 20:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The most famous case of this is Mercy Brown, which I always think of the lore episode on Mercy Brown. Mercy Lena Brown is known as the last American vampire. She grew up in a rural farming community of Exeter, Rhode Island in the late 1880s. And unfortunately, her entire family was hit really hard by tuberculosis. Her mother died in 1883, her sister died in 1888, and then Mercy and her brother Edwin both got sick in 1891. Tragically, Mercy died one year later. She was just 19 years old. And it is important to know that scientists at this time did know that tuberculosis was

• 21:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  caused by bacteria, but it hadn't reached everywhere. News traveled differently than it does today. And so the rural communities like Exeter, Rhode Island, didn't know that information.

• 21:17Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 21:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So they're working on some old textbooks. And when Mercy died and the tuberculosis continued to spread, they assumed vampire. They became convinced that Mercy was causing the spread of tuberculosis because she was a vampire. So even though the town doctor advised against it, people of the community encouraged the Browns to go through a horrifying ritual to save Edwin Brown. Mercy's body was exhumed, her heart and liver were torn out and burned right there in the cemetery. And the ashes of Mercy's heart and liver were mixed with water and given to Edwin to drink.

• 21:57Corinne Vien?

  Geez, it's so dark.

• 22:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And do we think this saved Edwin's life?

• 22:02Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 22:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, no, it did not.

• 22:06Corinne Vien?

  Wait, when did this happen?

• 22:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  1891 or 92.

• 22:10Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so this is during the time period where like we're entering the Victorian era where they start crushing up like bones of muddies and snorting it like cocaine.

• 22:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, and lobotomies are around the corner. Yeah.

• 22:23Corinne Vien?

  We're experimenting with the human body, sometimes consuming it.

• 22:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. This did not work. And just two months later, Edwin died and joined the rest of his family on the other side. It's horrifying. But it is also important to remember that even though it does sound unthinkable to us, this was not coming from a place of cruelty or like, ooh, I can't wait to taste my sister's jorgons. No, people just didn't have understanding of modern science. And vampires

• 22:51Corinne Vien?

  I wonder if

• 22:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  gave them an explanation.

• 22:53Corinne Vien?

  Back then, if people were like really grossed out by that idea, or if they were just so panicked that they were like, sure, let's try anything.

• 22:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think they were like, sure, let's try anything. Literally, blow smoke up your ass. Like, that whole phrase comes from when people were drowning, they thought if you blew like air up the butt. It would like push the water out of your lungs and save your life.

• 23:15Corinne Vien?

  Have they never done an autopsy before? Like, no one had ever cut open a human body and seen anything?

• 23:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They have. They're still figuring it out.

• 23:22Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 23:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is also the time of the two guys in Edinburgh stealing bodies.

• 23:26Corinne Vien?

  Oh, the body snatchers.

• 23:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Body snatchers. Gosh, to be alive during this time.

• 23:31Corinne Vien?

  I would be fearful of my own life.

• 23:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it's like a different iteration of the Oregon Trail where it's like, congratulations, you have tuberculosis, but they think you're a vampire, so they're gonna feed your organs to everyone.

• 23:43Corinne Vien?

  If the body snatchers don't grab you first.

• 23:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah. So now, let's talk about vampires in pop culture and one of the most notable vampires in pop culture, Dracula. We can't talk about vampires without talking about Dracula and the one and only inspo. I guess not one and only, there are multiple, but the most notable inspiration for Dracula is Vlad the Impaler, who we talked about in episode 133 of Two Girls, One Ghost. He ruled from 1456 to 1462, and he had a reputation for torturing and impaling his enemies and drinking their blood. He also apparently had a condition that caused blood in his tears, which I didn't know.

• 24:23Corinne Vien?

  Oh, what condition is that?

• 24:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, I don't know. I didn't write that part down.

• 24:27Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, it doesn't matter. I hope none of us get it.

• 24:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. His dad's name was also known as Dracula, very similar to Dracula. And then there's so many other vampiric beings in history that by the 19th century, vampires start popping up in art, literature, and politics. And with like the combination of vampire becoming mainstream and a lot of these like historical figures like Vlad the Impaler, a lot of writers were like, wow, I'm drawn to these stories. Like, how do I take inspiration for them and make my own narratives? Which makes sense that Bram Stoker sat down and wrote Dracula in 1897. He pulled from the Vlad the Impaler influences. And some people consider Dracula one of the most famous works in English literature ever.

• 25:09Corinne Vien?

  I would agree with that. I used the word nary the other day and I'm like, I can't use it twice in a row.

• 25:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you can. I like it.

• 25:15Corinne Vien?

  Too many times. But nary a person who hasn't heard of Dracula.

• 25:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, truly. Everyone knows Dracula. And then in 1931, Dracula was made into a film by Universal Studios. And it starred a Hungarian actor, Bella Lugosi, I think that's how you say his name. And he had these rolling Rs, the slow deliberate way he spoke. And that truly became the blueprint for vampires in media.

• 25:41Corinne Vien?

  I'm going to suck your blood. I don't know if that's how he says it.

• 25:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I want to suck your blood.

• 25:48Corinne Vien?

  But I thi- I think of The Count and Sesame Street now. I'm actually shocked my child says one, two, three normally, because I say, one, a two, a three.

• 25:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And also like, his hands are always like this, like this vampire walk.

• 26:04Corinne Vien?

  It is purple, like a corpse.

• 26:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. He also had a cape. I'm not talking about Sesame Street anymore.

• 26:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The movie Dracula, he had a cape, charm, a very aristocratic vibe. All of that really stuck and kind of solidified the imagery and personality of vampires. And then 45 years later, Anne Rice came along in 1976 and published Interview with the Vampire, which follows a vampire named Louis and his very complicated relationship with the dramatic anti-hero Lestat. And then that turned into Vampire Chronicles series, and there's a bunch of adaptations from that. And then because of Anne Rice's work, she dove into themes like identity, trauma, race. And it really like opened up the vampire genre to explore all these more complicated things in the world.

• 26:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Then there was Blackula, which introduced the first black vampire in film. And like at one point, what became a really important part of the vampire culture? Romance.

• 27:07Corinne Vien?

  Sexy, sexy. Although I, I kind of think Anne Rice was the first one to do something similar. Like romance is coming, but like a casual relationship.

• 27:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm. I would go on a date with a vampire. What's the Disney movie? Mom had a date with my mom.

• 27:22Corinne Vien?

  My mom.

• 27:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mom's date with a vampire, something like that?

• 27:23Corinne Vien?

  Something like that.

• 27:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We had Buffy the Vampire Slayer in 1997, Twilight in 2005, True Blood in 2008, Vampire Diaries in 2009. The list goes on.

• 27:33Corinne Vien?

  So good.

• 27:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Point being, these books and TV shows made vampires very mainstream. But there's also an underground vampire community and also real life vampires.

• 27:44Corinne Vien?

  One that we've recently learned about.

• 27:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, and I am going to talk about him right now.

• 27:49Corinne Vien?

  Okay, great. Yeah, I wasn't sure if we dabble in that or not, but.

• 27:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So here's the thing, I'm nervous to talk about this guy because someone has tried to investigate him and like literally disappeared. Like it's unsolved. No, no.

• 28:05Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God, the person who told, we won't say who told us about him, but it was someone in Salem and they said it in like a hushed secretive tone.

• 28:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 28:14Corinne Vien?

  With a lot of.

• 28:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, have you heard about this?

• 28:17Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 28:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do you want to know who we're talking about? Father Sebastian.

• 28:22Corinne Vien?

  How did someone disappear? Doesn't he have a documentary about him?

• 28:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but is it, is it made by him?

• 28:27Corinne Vien?

  It's a good question.

• 28:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He scares me. Like I really like, my heart is racing a little bit, even looking at a picture of him is a little unsettling. But you might know him because he makes custom dental grade prosthetic fangs, but really.

• 28:41Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. What is it? A fang smith or something?

• 28:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Something like that. Yeah.

• 28:45Corinne Vien?

  Professional term.

• 28:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the real thing is he's for sure a cult leader.

• 28:49Corinne Vien?

  It's a vampire cult.

• 28:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Unfortunately, his story is super.

• 28:53Corinne Vien?

  But what that kind of like borders on is it real, is it not?

• 28:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's real.

• 28:56Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 28:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  His story is so big and because we are afraid of him, we're not going to go too deep in it. But briefly, his real name is Aaron Todd Hoyt. And he hosts vampire balls all around the world. And according to someone in Salem, who again, we won't out, people go to these balls and Father Sebastian literally like sits in this like regal chair and just absorbs all of your energy.

• 29:19Corinne Vien?

  Feeds on you.

• 29:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So you're willingly going to sacrifice your energy, even though like the energy it would take for me to even like get ready would drain me. So like, there's not much for you to take from me, Father Sebastian.

• 29:30Corinne Vien?

  I will give Father Sebastian one compliment. I think that there's something quite impressive about him setting a precedent that at a ball and a party that he is throwing, his only task is to like sit on a chair and relax. And I appreciate that.

• 29:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For him. Yeah, being a cult leader is way better than being manipulated by a cult leader.

• 29:51Corinne Vien?

  To do much at the party and it's normal if he's just like sitting and be like, oh, I don't feel, I'm a little sleepy. I like that.

• 29:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, he absorbs everyone's energy. He's

• 30:01Corinne Vien?

  He's powering up, he's recharging.

• 30:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Draining everyone. And also, maybe there's some other nefarious things happening behind the curtains at these balls. Because at Sebastian's third annual vampire ball, a woman named Susan Walsh showed up to investigate this whole organization as a part of her journalist, as her work. She was a journalist. A day later, on July 16th, 1996, Susan Walsh disappeared and the case has never been solved.

• 30:27Corinne Vien?

  One day.

• 30:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 30:29Corinne Vien?

  Whoa, sorry, my nose is

• 30:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But yeah.

• 30:31Corinne Vien?

  One day.

• 30:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 30:33Corinne Vien?

  I thought that this was going to be deep into an investigation, like that someone uncovered something finally a little too real.

• 30:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One day. Some people have speculated that Father Sebastian was involved, but there's never been any proof of that, but the timing and it's just very

• 30:47Corinne Vien?

  The timing's suspicious.

• 30:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, suspicious.

• 30:48Corinne Vien?

  Well, and also I'll say, I'll say this, Father Sebastian could be a totally normal, innocent person.

• 30:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I'm literally about to tell you how he's not.

• 30:56Corinne Vien?

  Oh, but I was gonna say, like, you never know who is following another person or what they're capable of, especially when someone might idolize someone who is said to be a vampire. Like, what lengths will they go to to become one themselves or feel

• 31:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  True.

• 31:12Corinne Vien?

  Worthy of being around one.

• 31:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I do very much believe, because there are different types of vampires, like in modern day, there are people who, it's more of just like obsession with vampires. But then there are people who identify as vampires and they're called sanguinarians. They drink blood.

• 31:31Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 31:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But then there are the others who absorb energy and like, sometimes they do it without even being a self-proclaimed vampire, because there are people who just drain your energy. But yeah, there, there are people who call themselves, well, they don't call themselves that. They are called clinical vampires because they believe they have a physical need and need to drink blood.

• 31:52Corinne Vien?

  Oh, the Rod Farrow case that we'll go into is There's some like, pretty rough parts

• 31:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yikes.

• 32:00Corinne Vien?

  in that, because with that, sometimes when there aren't people to drink the blood of, there's some self-harm involved in order to

• 32:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To get blood.

• 32:09Corinne Vien?

  Drink your own blood.

• 32:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh geez. Okay, well, here's the sentence that proves that Sebastian, Father Sebastian, ain't so great. We can't confirm if he was involved in Susan Walsh's disappearance, but it has come out that he does not treat women well at all. One former member claimed that Father Sebastian groomed her into becoming one of his girlfriends. He controlled how she dressed. He forced her to work without pay. And it all escalated to the point where he pressured her into signing a submissive contract. Like Fifty Shades of Grey, but like, not consensual.

• 32:42Corinne Vien?

  Right. Which Fifty Shades of Grey was inspired by Twilight.

• 32:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Makes sense.

• 32:47Corinne Vien?

  The author literally said that she was like, book for book, was like, oh yeah, I could just kind of take a similar premise.

• 32:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. But with all of that creepy vampire history, and how it's evolved to what it is today, we decided to find some stories from Reddit.

• 33:04Corinne Vien?

  Oh yeah.

• 33:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One of our favorite places for the paranormal deep dives, to see, okay, what kind of vampires are out there in the real world today that we don't talk about, that we don't know about, but now we will. This first story was posted on the Ghosts forum on Reddit, three years ago. The username has been deleted, but the original poster asked if anyone had an encounter with what they thought might have been a vampire. And this was one of the responses. "I think I met one once, in a small town in the interior of Minas Gerais, Brazil. There was a legend that an old man who lived in a remote part of town was a vampire. That this man never aged, that he only ate raw meat, and that if you talked to him, you would become tired in no time."

• 33:46Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 33:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  "And I met him once. I spoke to him once, and it was scary. He introduced himself as Uncle Jonas. He looked to be about 45 years old, tall, thin, nice looking, like he knew how to express himself, he knew how to dress. And I was about 12 at the time. I'm now 24. So, the dumb kid that I was, and curious about the vampire that I was talking to, I asked, 'Uncle Jonas, is it true that you are a vampire?' And he looked at me, kind of irritated, and immediately asked, 'Where did you hear that?'

• 34:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I told him that my neighbor told me because my neighbor had told me that. He replied, I wouldn't say I'm a vampire, but animals sure do have tasty nourishing blood.

• 34:32Corinne Vien?

  I mean.

• 34:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I got goosebumps when he said that.

• 34:35Corinne Vien?

  And to be honest, like if a bunch of kids in the town started calling me a witch, like I would lean in. Yeah, you play into it.

• 34:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For sure.

• 34:41Corinne Vien?

  It took me until like two years ago to realize my Uncle Steve's knee scar was from surgery and that he wasn't actually attacked by a shark. Which is what he told me for years.

• 34:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But here's where the story gets worse. The user said, I got goosebumps when he said that. I was so afraid he would do something. I sprinted into my house and locked the doors. Then the next day, so this user ran into Uncle Jonas, the vampire around 6:00 PM, goes to bed. The next morning, we heard from the newspaper that there had been a chupacabra attack in a place near our house where all of the animals were attacked at dawn.

• 35:17Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God.

• 35:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But here's what scares me about this. The farm that had the attack belonged to the neighbor who told me that Jonas was a vampire.

• 35:26Corinne Vien?

  How did he find out?

• 35:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because she said, my neighbor told me.

• 35:30Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, but how many, there could be so many neighbors.

• 35:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She probably said like this neighbor, I pointed, she was outside of her house.

• 35:34Corinne Vien?

  Oh no.

• 35:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That farm belonged to that woman. And when I saw the news, I thought it was some type of revenge. I never saw him again, and I also never forgot about him. To add to this story, they say that he didn't age because he had been living in the area for almost 20 years. And he always looked the same, same hairstyle, same expression. It's as if nothing changed over time. He claimed to have a son who was also very much like him, but no one ever saw them together in the same place. So it was as if he was almost posing as a son. I don't know.

• 36:08Corinne Vien?

  Weird.

• 36:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We never knew.

• 36:09Corinne Vien?

  That's super strange. I'll be honest, the first half, I was like, oh yeah, this is for sure. Just some guy playing into the lore and scaring the kids.

• 36:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But then the attack, the next morning to the person who.

• 36:19Corinne Vien?

  In a chupacabra attack, it's not just like, oh, a bunch of livestock is dead. Chupacabra, like it is two fang marks. They're drained of blood.

• 36:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 36:28Corinne Vien?

  And it's not like some guy was just pissed and went. And murdered a couple animals. This is a very specific.

• 36:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's targeted.

• 36:34Corinne Vien?

  Way of killing too.

• 36:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm. So.

• 36:37Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 36:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's a vampire in Brazil, we believe.

• 36:39Corinne Vien?

  And then I found two short stories and I'm so sorry about my nose and the way that I sound. I was told it sounds like I'm bawling, so let's just pretend that I'm crying through these vampire stories.

• 36:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because you're so scared?

• 36:50Corinne Vien?

  Because I'm so scared that I might date a vampire, which is the theme that I went with.

• 36:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I like this theme.

• 36:55Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 36:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Date a vampire.

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• 37:59Corinne Vien?

  So these weren't two completely different Reddit threads.

• 38:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 38:02Corinne Vien?

  But they shared so many similarities and I was like, oh my God, is this what dating a vampire is like? Okay, the first one is from nauseantclover. It was posted only a month ago.

• 38:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my God.

• 38:13Corinne Vien?

  So in March of 2026, if someone's not listening live. I'm 27 years old and recently I've been dealing with insomnia. It happens every few years for me. I got bored of just laying in bed awake all night, doom scrolling on my phone. So I started to go take long walks down the road at night. I live in a rural area, so I almost never see anyone there, just occasionally maybe a car driving by. Anyway, the other night I was on one of my walks when I saw her. She looked like a pretty normal girl around my age, or maybe a couple of years younger. She was dressed in all black, hoodie and jeans. Her hair looked like it had been dyed light pink.

• 38:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's what is in my dream hair.

• 38:52Corinne Vien?

  The pink, you've done it before.

• 38:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 38:53Corinne Vien?

  Bring it back.

• 38:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm slowly, I'm slowly going more blonde, but I have to do it slowly.

• 38:58Corinne Vien?

  You say that with like a dude like rich brunette hair.

• 39:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, look, it's lighter at the bottom. I literally went two weeks ago to get it, started lightening it.

• 39:06Corinne Vien?

  Okay, started lightening.

• 39:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 39:08Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 39:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's a, it's a process. Yeah.

• 39:10Corinne Vien?

  I thought you were trying to say you're blonde.

• 39:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Dunk my hair into bleach overnight.

• 39:14Corinne Vien?

  You were just reminding me of my friend, Brianna, who was one of our college friends. She is like black hair, but she convinced herself that she had brunette hair and told me I was blonde. I was like, no.

• 39:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's not how that works.

• 39:27Corinne Vien?

  You're brunette, I'm brunette, we're both brunette, but you're like almost black. Anyway, the two blondes, that two girls one ghost, are gonna continue to tell you about vampires. Her hair looked like it had been dyed pink at some point, but it was faded, like she dyed it a long time ago and hadn't touched it up. Long story short, she asked me if I had any cigarettes. I don't smoke cigs anymore. I just recently switched to vaping, which isn't much better, but I don't need a lecturing. Anyway, I told her that I had a vape if she wanted a hit of that, and she politely declined.

• 39:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Giving a vape to a stranger? That's.

• 39:59Corinne Vien?

  Is that weirder than a, oh, because you're like, you're sharing it with your mouth?

• 40:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, germs.

• 40:04Corinne Vien?

  Gravies.

• 40:07Corinne Vien?

  That kind of got us talking, though. We ended up standing there talking about random stuff for a while, like music we liked, random life stuff, and some philosophical ramblings that honestly are not important for this context. What made this encounter weird was when she randomly asked me if I'd ever wanted to be bitten by a vampire. I tried sounding cool and I said, maybe if it was a cute vampire. And her expression lit up and she laughed and then asked for my arm. I honestly thought she was joking around until she rolled up my sleeve and bit down. And she bit down hard enough that I definitely felt my skin break.

• 40:44Corinne Vien?

  And I don't know if her teeth were just really sharp or if she had some sort of cosmetic fang thing that some people get, but I felt two extremely sharp points in the bite. And most of you probably would have pulled away or freaked out at her, but I was kind of crushing on her at the time. Part of me was a little into it. She kept biting down and she was sucking on the same spot for maybe 20 or 30 seconds before letting go. After that, she pulled out one of those little alcohol wipes from her bag and then cleaned the bite.

• 41:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  At least she's, she cleans up after a meal.

• 41:14Corinne Vien?

  Literally. I felt like she was genuinely showing me some care. She thanked me and said that my blood tasted really good, which honestly, I didn't know how to respond to, other than awkwardly saying thanks back. At this point, I was pretty flushed and nervous, but we kept talking for a while longer and I don't know exactly how long, maybe it was an hour or two, but eventually we just went our separate ways and I walked home. I had a pretty nasty bruise on my arm and I had two small scabs where she bit me. It was pretty sore on the walk home, but it doesn't really hurt much now. I also cleaned it with soap and water just in case, but it doesn't seem infected or anything. Anyway, I still have my reflection in the mirror and I'm not allergic to garlic or anything.

• 41:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, yeah, because you didn't drink their blood. Isn't that how it's supposed to, how you get changed into a vampire?

• 41:59Corinne Vien?

  Oh, is it? I thought it was just like if you're left alive.

• 42:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I guess it depends on the different.

• 42:03Corinne Vien?

  Lore.

• 42:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, because Twilight, yeah, it's like.

• 42:07Corinne Vien?

  If you're not fully eaten.

• 42:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but then true blood, I think you have to.

• 42:11Corinne Vien?

  Drink their blood?

• 42:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You have to drink their blood and then you get killed with vampire blood inside of you and then you get buried and then you come to the next day and you're a vampire.

• 42:20Corinne Vien?

  Lots of rules.

• 42:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Lots of rules.

• 42:22Corinne Vien?

  Okay, one more.

• 42:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I need to talk about this one more first because it does feel like, does it not sound like this user almost was in a trance?

• 42:29Corinne Vien?

  I hadn't really thought about it like that, but yeah, now that you're saying that.

• 42:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, I don't know how much time went by, like, it didn't really hurt. I felt like drawn by into this girl.

• 42:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I did want to pull their arm away. It kind of reminds me, oh my God, my nose is so bad, but it reminds me of what we do in the shadows.

• 42:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love.

• 42:49Corinne Vien?

  Where she's like flirting with like college boys or like young guys and then suddenly she just like eats them and dips or does something like that.

• 42:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's a comedic version of vampires.

• 42:59Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 42:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 43:00Corinne Vien?

  Okay, this other one is from a deleted user three years ago on a different feed.

• 43:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 43:05Corinne Vien?

  Maybe I'm delusional, but I swear my old situationship is a vampire. I don't know much at all about vampires, but from what I've seen of her, she resembles one to me. She has long, sharp canines. I wouldn't say they looked out of this world, but they certainly stood out when she smiled. She would always playfully bite me and the sharpness of those teeth were beyond painful. I always would instantly bleed by the smallest prick.

• 43:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I feel like they're dating a cat.

• 43:33Corinne Vien?

  It does kind of feel like that, especially like continuing to say canines. We also never left the house during the day unless she was leaving with an umbrella that blocked out UVA rays. She couldn't stay under the sun for more than 10 minutes. She claimed that she had a rare disease called lupus and that she could only leave the house at night because the sun gave her rashes because of this disease.

• 43:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There are people who are allergic to the sun.

• 43:54Corinne Vien?

  Yes. I recall one time she left the house during night and came back early morning. And I guess the sun rose sooner than she had anticipated and parts of her skin were almost raw. And I looked up lupus rashes after this and they did not look like this rash at all. The best I could describe it was that they were red and raw like, but she also became very weak if she didn't go out at night for too long.

• 44:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 44:19Corinne Vien?

  At first I thought maybe she was just drained and weak because she barely ate. Like sometimes she'd eat one meal a day, other times she wouldn't eat at all.

• 44:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What were these meals that she was eating?

• 44:28Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, right. Half of an almond, half of an almond. But I realized after a night out that she had full energy again. I sounded insane typing this and I feel insane, but I really believe that she was feeding off of other people and animals. One time she'd returned with blood on her, but she claimed that it was from a bar fight that she'd gotten into.

• 44:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that also this user's never going out at night with her.

• 44:53Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 44:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like.

• 44:53Corinne Vien?

  She's just disappearing.

• 44:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She's like, see you later.

• 44:56Corinne Vien?

  Girls' night.

• 44:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And her version of girls' night is just getting in like bar fights.

• 45:02Corinne Vien?

  Bar fights and bloody. Another thing about her that was something I never understood was the fact that her bruises, cuts and that raw rash were typically always healed about the next day after a night out. Also, one thing I noticed, but I'm not really sure if it had any correlation is that before she went out, she would be really, really pale. But when she'd come back home, she would always be a shade or two darker. I probably am crazy. Maybe there's some logical reason to it all. But I'm starting to think she was a vampire.

• 45:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, really, I have a lot of questions about your relationship because this user said it was a situation ship, but yet she's coming home to their house like.

• 45:41Corinne Vien?

  Maybe it's roommates hooking up.

• 45:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, she's definitely.

• 45:44Corinne Vien?

  Or it's just like the late night booty call.

• 45:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I, yeah, I don't know.

• 45:47Corinne Vien?

  Cause even in a situation ship, you're like, do you want to go to happy hour and get tacos and mar?

• 45:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She does not want to go to happy hour and get tacos and mar. She's like, I'll see you as the sun sets, or when dawn has come, I will be back in the home.

• 46:01Corinne Vien?

  But the fact that also this person, like the slightest like nick of her canine teeth on their skin just immediately draws blood.

• 46:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is also wild. You know what really creeps me out are like people who file their teeth down to like the sharp nubs.

• 46:16Corinne Vien?

  Oh, oh, the whole, yeah, the whole.

• 46:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like shark teeth, basically. Okay, I found one other vampire story and I actually found this on TikTok from at Tiff's Ghost Talk and it's vampires plus New Orleans. I almost said New Orleans, New Orleans.

• 46:32Corinne Vien?

  No la.

• 46:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No la. They go hand in hand. Okay, so this story is about a girl named Kate. Kate was in New Orleans on a business trip and apparently she wasn't like a hotel person. She, she was like, I'm going to book an Airbnb.

• 46:43Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 46:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She finds one near the French Quarter. Looks great, totally fine, checks in, everything's beautiful, but the host had left a note and the note's like very normal up until the last line, which says, do not open the door after midnight.

• 46:59Corinne Vien?

  Which is so creepy. And also you're in New Orleans, like there's so much nightlife.

• 47:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Like, does that mean she also can't go outside after it? Like, does she have to be, is it a curfew? Like be home and door locked?

• 47:08Corinne Vien?

  Home, but then is, can you not go back?

• 47:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. So Kate reads this and she's like, oh, it's probably just the host being funny and playing into like the whole New Orleans lore and legends. Like, I'm not going to take it very seriously. Then one night during her stay, at 12:45 in the morning, there is a knock on her door. She looks through the peephole and she sees a man who apparently like seems totally fine. He's like dressed normally, but he does have these like really striking eyes. And this man is like, hey, I'm so sorry. I left my phone inside. And she's like, oh, like I didn't see a phone. That's weird. But she assumes that maybe he stayed at the Airbnb previously.

• 47:45Corinne Vien?

  But then like if he was a guest at Airbnb, you would assume that he, when he left, he's leaving town.

• 47:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sure. Unless he's during a staycation or he came back because he left his phone. Who knows?

• 47:55Corinne Vien?

  I don't know. The warning plus that immediately.

• 47:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. But it's also late at night. Like you're not, especially if you don't heed that warning on the note seriously. Like you're not really thinking about it. She does think like, oh, that's weird. And the guy says, you don't even have to let me in. Like I'll tell you where it is. And then he mumbled something that she couldn't quite hear. And because the whole situation was weird, she was just like, she opens the door. And he goes, the man smiles, winks at her and says, thank you. That's all I needed. And he turns and leaves.

• 48:29Corinne Vien?

  What? He's gonna come back and feed on her later when she's asleep.

• 48:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The next morning she's taking a shower and when she gets out, she like the bathroom mirror is all fogged up. Except for there's a word written on the foggy mirror. And it's like, as if it was drawn with a finger, it says invited.

• 48:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So she calls the host.

• 48:49Corinne Vien?

  Honest, wait, I just, I do have to say, if you're gonna have an encounter with a vampire, this does seem like a good one. Where you're not like conscious of the attack.

• 49:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sure. She was asleep.

• 49:01Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 49:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Yeah. So she calls the host. And the first thing the host does is not try to like walk it back or anything. The first thing the host says is, did you open the door after midnight?

• 49:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And Kate is like, well, like, I mean, yeah, but this guy came.

• 49:17Corinne Vien?

  This should be in the Airbnb listing. Like this is a serious targeted location from the NOLA vampires.

• 49:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. The host hangs up on her. Who knows what? Like, I don't know. But that night Kate's staying again. She's in bed.

• 49:30Corinne Vien?

  The host's ex, cause she used to date this vampire.

• 49:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She knows the vampire.

• 49:35Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 49:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or maybe they're in cahoots and this is the whole thing.

• 49:38Corinne Vien?

  It's a ruse.

• 49:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. Sometime after midnight now, this is like the night after she had invited him in by accident. She hears three soft knocks on the window and then she starts to see shadows moving in the apartment or the Airbnb. And she thought she saw that same man standing outside, but when she like went to look further, like he was gone. So the next morning she packed up and left.

• 50:01Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God. This is so scary.

• 50:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But also it defies everything that we think we know about vampires because I thought you had to literally invite them in, not just open the door.

• 50:12Corinne Vien?

  It's like a Black Eyed Kid thing.

• 50:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Just like any opening, like just a gesture of it.

• 50:17Corinne Vien?

  The intent of conversating more of like opening up connection.

• 50:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like I literally thought it was like, you are welcome inside.

• 50:24Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 50:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like Vampire Diaries and they have to, they can cross the threshold, but then you can uninvite them and then they get like flown out of your house.

• 50:31Corinne Vien?

  And are there rules for public spaces or is it just a free for all?

• 50:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, in Vampire Diaries, I think there are rules about public spaces.

• 50:38Corinne Vien?

  Huh.

• 50:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where they, they are more free for all. Did you watch Sinners?

• 50:41Corinne Vien?

  I guess the answer is yes and no. No, I did not watch Sinners, but yes.

• 50:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Watching it on TikTok does not count.

• 50:47Corinne Vien?

  So many clips on TikTok.

• 50:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Watching clips on TikTok is not watching a movie. So no.

• 50:52Corinne Vien?

  But that's why I said yes and no. Cause no, I did not watch the movie, but yes, I know all the spoilers and things that happened.

• 50:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. But you haven't watched it. So you don't know that you know all the spoilers.

• 51:03Corinne Vien?

  I guess I don't.

• 51:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I loved that movie.

• 51:05Corinne Vien?

  I probably watched more minutes of clips than it would have taken me to watch the movie. But it's on my, it's on my list. I really wanted, I love the cast.

• 51:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Great cast. But yeah, those are some vampire stories from history and also from the internet, which loves vampires as much. That scared me.

• 51:25Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God. Spooky.

• 51:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The vampires are here. They were invited. All of a sudden like our, this TV starts to fog and the word invited just starts to.

• 51:35Corinne Vien?

  For anyone listening, there's just paper above some of the lighting in the studio to diffuse the light. And it just untaped and that made like the, the noise.

• 51:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or was it Sven? Because we did bring Sven here. And we are recording in Salem.

• 51:50Corinne Vien?

  Yes, we are.

• 51:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is a very haunted place.

• 51:52Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh, the vampire cult. They know we're talking about them.

• 51:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They don't live in Salem, but they've visited Salem.

• 51:57Corinne Vien?

  Oh, they travel together?

• 51:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah. Father Sebastian, he doesn't live in Salem.

• 52:01Corinne Vien?

  I thought he, there were just followers all over.

• 52:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do think there are followers everywhere.

• 52:06Corinne Vien?

  Like, I assumed people still in Salem attended and...

• 52:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah. He travels around the world and has vampire balls. And people, like, you and I could go to the vampire ball.

• 52:16Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 52:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But we won't. I won't. You can. I will not.

• 52:20Corinne Vien?

  No, I'm too tired.

• 52:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See, this is the thing is, if I want a vampire interaction, I want to, same with aliens. Like, I want to curate the type of alien I'm encountering, the type of vampire I'm encountering. Like, I want Damon Salvatore, but I don't want Father Sebastian.

• 52:37Corinne Vien?

  I think that no vampires have approached me in respect, like, out of maybe respect. And I'm gonna do the same to them. We can both coexist peacefully on this earth without bothering each other.

• 52:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. What if I become a vampire? Will you invite me into your home?

• 52:53Corinne Vien?

  Well, what kind of vampire are you?

• 52:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'll still be like my person, as if I know.

• 52:58Corinne Vien?

  I will still love these three things.

• 53:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Be my personality, but yeah, I'll go from being a vegetarian to needing, being a cannibal, basically. But I won't eat your blood.

• 53:10Corinne Vien?

  What about those around me?

• 53:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I won't.

• 53:12Corinne Vien?

  How could you control it?

• 53:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's a good question. I'll have to get some training from Edward Cullen.

• 53:16Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Do I have to have, like, carafes of blood at my house for you?

• 53:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'll bring my, I'll BYOB. I'll BYOB.

• 53:22Corinne Vien?

  Okay. I will be put out. Like, I won't, I'll, I'll do it for you.

• 53:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Tell you if I become a vampire?

• 53:28Corinne Vien?

  Yes, so that I can have the proper things to host you.

• 53:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. What if I just, like, show up at your door one day and you're like, why aren't you coming in? I'd be like, oh, can you, like, invite me?

• 53:36Corinne Vien?

  Then I shut the door and you're like, I haven't got, I don't have my cheese and crackers and my blood out yet.

• 53:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cheese and crackers.

• 53:44Corinne Vien?

  Some snacks for me, some snacks for you.

• 53:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So, so, consider it. Thank you. So that was, uh, part one, or part two, however, you can listen in any order. And you can check out more on the Crimes of Feed.

• 53:58Corinne Vien?

  Where things get a little less lore, a little less spooky, historic and cool, and a lot more murderous and recent.

• 54:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. Where people go past grave digging, past blood rituals, and straight into...

• 54:13Corinne Vien?

  Which is what we will be exploring on our episode of Crimes Of, which comes out May 26th. Just search for Crimes Of on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also watch it on YouTube. It's on the Crime House channel.

• 54:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which we'll link all of that in the show notes and we're really excited to spread that episode. And thank you for joining us. If you have any encounters with vampires, I like need to hear it. You need to send it to us. Please email it to [email protected]. You can also join us on Patreon where we have episodes one week early and ad free, plus bonus episodes every month, plus campfire stories every Tuesday where you can come share your ghost stories with us live. And so much other fun bonus content like Witch Class and Book Club.

• 54:58Corinne Vien?

  Shout out to the Pave production team who let us use the studio for today's episode.

• 55:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And thanks to all of you. Oh, and to

• 55:05Corinne Vien?

  And Jamie.

• 55:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And to Jamie, who we would not be able to do anything without. So

• 55:09Corinne Vien?

  Nope.

• 55:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jamie, become a vampire so that you never go anywhere.

• 55:13Corinne Vien?

  How do we tether you permanently to us? Eternal ties.

• 55:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. All right. Well, we love you all.

• 55:20Corinne Vien?

  And we will see you on the other side.

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