Encounters x326 - Paranormal Visits from Loved Ones

Connection doesn’t end with death, and some relationships begin before you even meet… We’re sharing listener stories of loved ones reaching through the vale and across time and space, through signs, dream visits, and unexplainable moments. Sometimes in beautiful ways and sometimes in ways that are a little more eerie than comforting. A listener spent years adventuring in vivid dreams with a mysterious boy, only to realize he was her future husband all along. A grieving daughter begins receiving unmistakable signs from her mom through songs, bumper stickers, and perfectly timed moments that feel orchestrated on the other side. One listener shares a chilling but oddly comforting story of a late ex appearing with their “ghost daughter,” hinting at a parallel life continuing beyond death. A deceased uncle may have saved a life by warning his sister seconds before a fatal crash, then later guiding a relative through a cemetery as a fox. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan. Original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:39Corinne Vien?

  Hi.

• 2:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoa, are you okay?

• 2:42Corinne Vien?

  I don't know.

• 2:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi.

• 2:44Corinne Vien?

  I was, I was matching.

• 2:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You were.

• 2:46Corinne Vien?

  The vibration of the airplane that's going overhead.

• 2:52Corinne Vien?

  Hi, everyone.

• 2:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is not a meditation podcast.

• 2:56Corinne Vien?

  This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 2:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two girl, whoa, shit. Two girls, one ghost. Where we're so serious over here. Um, where your ghostess is, that's Corinne.

• 3:07Corinne Vien?

  Hi.

• 3:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm Sabrina and where are we? Who are we?

• 3:12Corinne Vien?

  What is life?

• 3:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Those are the questions that.

• 3:15Corinne Vien?

  Don't ever get answered.

• 3:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We will never answer, but we will ask, what is death? And is it the end? And to which we say, hell, frickin', no.

• 3:26Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I think that's like the only thing we are certain of is that there is something after death.

• 3:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you know, also I'm certain of that people continue to confuse me and my brother for twins.

• 3:37Corinne Vien?

  Really? Did you guys get confused again?

• 3:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I went on a ski trip with my brother and his fiance, my sister-in-law-to-be, Charlotte, love her. It was just the three of us and I posted a video of my brother. Granted, I'll give people the break because ski gear, it's a lot of whatever. I ski, my brother snowboards. I posted a video of my brother snowboarding. You see his face, he waves, he's got facial hair. So many people were like, wow, you're so cool. I didn't know you snowboarded.

• 4:07Corinne Vien?

  Hey, now you know what he looked like with a beard.

• 4:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I already knew, like, I literally, you know, there's like, oh, change your gender, like, filters on Snapchat. I always just look at a copy and paste of my brother.

• 4:19Corinne Vien?

  That is so funny.

• 4:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 4:20Corinne Vien?

  Well, now you can trick people skiing.

• 4:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Even Letha, Letha thought it was my brother or what, thought it was me.

• 4:28Corinne Vien?

  The gear is bulky, so it's like.

• 4:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How's my facial hair looking?

• 4:33Corinne Vien?

  You do make comments about how hairy you used to be.

• 4:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Still lamb. Nothing's changed.

• 4:41Corinne Vien?

  There's wax, there's laser, there's things that we do now.

• 4:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I am lasering right after this recording, actually, today.

• 4:47Corinne Vien?

  There we go.

• 4:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I've had to reschedule it so many times because I was sick and then I was on antibiotics and now finally. It's happening.

• 4:53Corinne Vien?

  Rip or sear, sear it off.

• 4:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sear it off with lasers, destroy it. I really want another tattoo.

• 5:00Corinne Vien?

  I was actually looking at your tattoo the other day, the one that is that you did like the disappearing ink and it's almost disappeared, even though it's been like three, three years.

• 5:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Invisible ink.

• 5:09Corinne Vien?

  Well, what's it supposed to be?

• 5:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's supposed to, it's like temporary tattoo.

• 5:13Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that's a disappearing tattoo. It disappears after a while.

• 5:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love calling it that.

• 5:18Corinne Vien?

  I don't know. I'm not in the tat world.

• 5:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, it did say a year, but it's been like five.

• 5:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Would you redo it? Cause you did it with your sister. Is Lexi's like that?

• 5:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hers is actually a lot thicker than, like hers is a lot more visible than mine is.

• 5:29Corinne Vien?

  Wow. Maybe she does less exfoliating than you.

• 5:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hers is like right here. I don't know if it's like the placement.

• 5:34Corinne Vien?

  The skin?

• 5:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 5:36Corinne Vien?

  What would you get as your next one? Have you decided?

• 5:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My brother's face? I don't know. No, um, I do want a little alien. I want a little alien.

• 5:45Corinne Vien?

  That's great. Just like as a figure or being abducted or?

• 5:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Probably just like a little face.

• 5:51Corinne Vien?

  A little alien face.

• 5:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Little alien face. I don't know. I like the flash tat situation.

• 5:56Corinne Vien?

  I don't know what that means.

• 5:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're like little, small, simple designs.

• 6:00Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 6:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 6:02Corinne Vien?

  Is that like the Miley Cyrus style?

• 6:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kinda, yeah.

• 6:05Corinne Vien?

  Of sleeve? I feel like she just has like the little.

• 6:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, the little.

• 6:08Corinne Vien?

  Like Lady Gaga.

• 6:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm.

• 6:10Corinne Vien?

  I like that too.

• 6:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One day. This is the thing is I don't like to really plan out my tattoos. Like I feel like I may hit the moment, go and get it, which probably isn't many.

• 6:23Corinne Vien?

  Tour right now?

• 6:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, well, I don't have that many. You've been with me for like almost all of them.

• 6:27Corinne Vien?

  I've only been with you for the one on your first one.

• 6:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, well, I think you were here for these ones because I got them on Halloween after our show. You weren't in the room with me, but you were.

• 6:35Corinne Vien?

  I was, I was physically present in the town.

• 6:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 6:38Corinne Vien?

  But I got tired.

• 6:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you were blue and had to go home.

• 6:41Corinne Vien?

  And I dressed up as a blue.

• 6:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Literally blue.

• 6:44Corinne Vien?

  I was a blue, like one single Blue Man Group character. So I was painted blue and did not have any interest in going and, um.

• 6:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Drinking and getting tattoos. And you were pregnant and couldn't tell anyone. Yeah.

• 6:57Corinne Vien?

  There were reasons, but yeah, no, I was, I guess my, my energy was there.

• 7:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 7:01Corinne Vien?

  But I was only physically present.

• 7:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which technically like your energy is always with me.

• 7:06Corinne Vien?

  So you only have four?

• 7:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have one, two, three, four, five.

• 7:11Corinne Vien?

  What's the one on the back of your neck again?

• 7:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can't read it anymore, but it's a quote from Dr. Two, so the places you can go, it says, you were the one who will decide where to go. And I will stand by that message. It is still like the message that I am trying to live every day. Placement of a tattoo, not great. Quality of the tattoo, very poor. Would I get it again? No.

• 7:31Corinne Vien?

  Hey, maybe when we're, when we're in Texas, you can go.

• 7:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. If anyone has, uh, Austin, well, this comes out after. If anyone has tattoo place recs anywhere.

• 7:39Corinne Vien?

  Does she have a new tattoo? Who knows?

• 7:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stay tuned. The mystery.

• 7:43Corinne Vien?

  Oh, you should go to Black Veil Tattoo in Salem.

• 7:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. They actually just followed us on Instagram.

• 7:48Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that feels like a famous person followed us.

• 7:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We've made it.

• 7:52Corinne Vien?

  I mean, it looks so sick in there and I feel like they do really good.

• 7:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 7:56Corinne Vien?

  Cool tattoos. And we're in Salem all the time.

• 7:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. Stay tuned. The mystery continues. Will I get more tattoos? Probably. What will I get? I don't know. I don't even know. How do you know?

• 8:07Corinne Vien?

  What is anything? Who are we? Well, we are two girls who have a podcast and are going to read to you.

• 8:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 8:14Corinne Vien?

  Stories that listeners have sent us in about the visitations they have received paranormally from their loved ones.

• 8:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is usually a combination of two things. It can be really heartwarming, but also often very sad.

• 8:28Corinne Vien?

  And you said that you found a way to include some darkness.

• 8:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I always do. Um, I can't remember specifically. Um, I do think the one that I am reading, so every other week, we read an extra encounter from that topic on a Patreon exclusive. So the one that I picked for Patreon definitely has like some darker.

• 8:50Corinne Vien?

  Darker themes.

• 8:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Themes.

• 8:52Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God, I'm so excited for, we have a New England themed encounters coming up too. And I have the like Patreon bonus and the one I'm reading for Patreon, I called my mom yesterday and she was on the phone with, uh, someone else from like our hometown. I was like, patch me through, patch me through, like, put us all together.

• 9:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Free way call.

• 9:10Corinne Vien?

  Free way call. My mom's like, okay, like, why do you have to tell Brenda? I read them the email. It is an email a listener sent in, not knowing exactly, just knowing I was from Vermont, but not knowing the specific town. And she moved to that town and she worked at the grocery store I went to my whole life and had hauntings from that grocery store. So I was like, guys, our shaw's is haunted. And I read the email and I'm so, so excited for that one.

• 9:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's so cool.

• 9:34Corinne Vien?

  I'm gonna read that one on the Patreon.

• 9:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I love that.

• 9:36Corinne Vien?

  And it sent them on a goose chase to like, go track down everyone we know that works at that grocery store to ask them, like, if they've experienced anything too.

• 9:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 9:44Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God.

• 9:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Things to be excited for.

• 9:46Corinne Vien?

  So many. Okay, but now we have visits from loved ones. So, do you want to go first?

• 9:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Should we rock, paper, scissors?

• 9:52Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, let's do it. Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot. You first.

• 9:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 9:57Corinne Vien?

  Now, I never throw scissors first.

• 10:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Loser.

• 10:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's why you don't do scissors, ever. I honestly just short circuited and just didn't do anything.

• 10:08Corinne Vien?

  I think that's what I normally do too. And I normally win. Cause I think a lot of people.

• 10:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We just swapped. Swapped places. I'm the winner now. Ha, ha, hee, hee.

• 10:14Corinne Vien?

  Ha, ha, ha.

• 10:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ha, ha, you lose sucker. Loser. Okay, I really like this one. This is a very sweet one. This does not have any demonic ties in it. This is from our listener Lex, and it is called, "I hung out with my future husband in my dreams 12 years before we met." So this is a twist on a visit from a loved one.

• 10:36Corinne Vien?

  And like invisible string theory too. Kind of a combo. That still counts. We don't, your loved one doesn't have to be deceased.

• 10:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly. Hey, Gules, I am listening to one of your dream episodes at work and I decided I needed to take a break and tell you about my most wholesome, crazy experience. I have always had very vivid dreams. As a kid, I loved sleeping because my dreams were full of adventures in magical, unusual lands.

• 11:01Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god, so cool.

• 11:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's, what is that book series, like The Magic Treehouse?

• 11:05Corinne Vien?

  Magic Treehouse.

• 11:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where like every novel, they went into like a different fantasy world. Oh, so cool.

• 11:10Corinne Vien?

  It was literally just, I was talking to our nanny the other day about this.

• 11:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Such a good.

• 11:15Corinne Vien?

  I saw online, someone was being interviewed and they said, like, if you could live within one book series, what would it be?

• 11:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 11:20Corinne Vien?

  And they said, or like in one book world, and they said Magic Treehouse. And I was like, that is brilliant, because then you get every world.

• 11:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So smart.

• 11:26Corinne Vien?

  It's such a cheat code.

• 11:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Love it. Okay, as dreams usually are, the settings and events around me were always pretty nonsensical. But I felt like I had free will to move about these odd places as I pleased, which made it so fun. And also made me want to sleep all the time. One night, I had one of my favorite dreams of all time. I won't go into too much detail because it's like dream logic. It doesn't make a ton of sense. But it consisted of attending an underwater baseball game, a network of shimmery rainbow caves in the jungle, and flying on the back of a giant bat. It was awesome. I was with my little sister and a boy who was about my age. And I had never met this boy before, which I thought was odd because up until that point, everyone who appeared in my dreams was from my real life.

• 12:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This boy had brown hair and beautiful, slightly downturned, light brown eyes framed by thick eyelashes. He was a little quiet at first, but brave, kind, and very silly once he opened up. After that dream, this boy appeared in almost every dream I had for years.

• 12:28Corinne Vien?

  Dang.

• 12:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And together-

• 12:29Corinne Vien?

  Actual travel buddies.

• 12:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We went on-

• 12:31Corinne Vien?

  In the dream world?

• 12:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Many adventures.

• 12:33Corinne Vien?

  That is so cool.

• 12:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No matter-

• 12:35Corinne Vien?

  This could be a book. Write, write your story as a book.

• 12:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No matter who else appeared in my dream, he was always there, whether for the whole dream or just for parts of it. And over time, I developed a huge crush on him, even though I thought or knew he was just a figment of my imagination. He grew up alongside of me until we reached high school. When I finally thought to ask a simple question, but a very important question, I asked, "Are you real?" And he said, "Yes." After that, he was in my dreams less often. His features faded until I could no longer tell what he looked like. The best way you could describe it is how, when you see people in like your distant memories, and they're almost blurry or fuzzy. But I could still feel his presence at times, and it was always comforting.

• 13:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But he was no longer the main character. Looking back, I do wonder if it had to do with me asking if he was real. I also had a lot of other nightmares at that time in my life, which he was never in. Either way, I saw him less and less until finally he disappeared completely. But I still thought about him from time to time and wondered, if he was real, where is he? But by the time he disappeared, my life was so busy that I really kind of put it in the back of my mind and forgot about it. About a year after the boy's last appearance in my dreams, I met someone through work. He and I didn't talk much at first. I mostly only knew people who knew him. But I could tell he was a good person and I just felt this strong connection to him. We started to get to know each other more. We became best friends.

• 14:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And about a year after we first met, we went on our first date. And even though I didn't want to put pressure on it, I just knew he was the one.

• 14:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I didn't know it at the time, but he was apparently thinking the exact same thing.

• 14:17Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 14:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We continued to date and the more time I spent with him, the more I felt like I had found my soulmate. Now, one day we were at his family's house when his mom broke out the old scrapbooks. And we got to photos of him around age eight. I had this feeling that he looked familiar. Brown hair, slightly downturned eyes, chubby cheeks, a sweet smile. I suppressed a gasp as I realized the man I was falling in love with was the same boy I had hung out with countless times in my dreams.

• 14:50Corinne Vien?

  I literally got chills. This is so wild.

• 14:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In my dreams, I hadn't seen him grow past 14 years old, which explained why I hadn't recognized him as an adult. Plus, as an adult, his hair was darker, he was much taller, broader, his facial features had changed a bit. But after I realized it was him, it all came together. He had the same kind, silly personality, the same sense of adventure, and I had the same strong connection with him. When I fully told him all of this, he told me that while he didn't remember trying to visit me, he had no dreams from the time he was in second grade until high school. So I'd like to think his spirit or a deeper part of his consciousness wanted to introduce himself to me before we actually met.

• 15:31Corinne Vien?

  He doesn't remember having any dreams?

• 15:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  None.

• 15:35Corinne Vien?

  That's like almost the greatest. Part of all this.

• 15:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There were a lot of other spiritual events that predicted we would get together. For example, my friend gave me a tarot reading that described him exactly, like predicted his astrological sign, told me how we would meet. And he received a spiritual psychic reading blessing when he was in high school that apparently described my personality and my history with scary accuracy. Even though we grew up thousands of miles apart, I think the universe was trying every possible time to get us together. We have now been happily married for over two years and I have been having a lot of reoccurring appearances from our future children in my dreams. So I guess we'll see one day if they turn out to look and act like our dream kids, the same way my best little dream friend looked and acted. And now is my husband.

• 16:20Corinne Vien?

  That is.

• 16:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 16:22Corinne Vien?

  Right, like you are, what is your power? Like, how did you get this?

• 16:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Magic.

• 16:26Corinne Vien?

  Incredible.

• 16:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's from Lex.

• 16:29Corinne Vien?

  Lex, my god. Like most people would dream of this, the fact that.

• 16:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Literally dream.

• 16:33Corinne Vien?

  Literally dream, but like it's not even just one, it's like.

• 16:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For years?

• 16:38Corinne Vien?

  For years and now they're future kids.

• 16:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And what is this world that you're going to? Because clearly it's like a higher plane of some kind.

• 16:46Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 16:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  If it is truly where you're seeing real life people who are going to come into your life. Yeah.

• 16:54Corinne Vien?

  It's interesting too, because I'm wondering what her husband experienced when he was 14. Was it just simply like puberty? Where it was like, he no longer had access because there was too much going on.

• 17:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe.

• 17:03Corinne Vien?

  But it seems like Lex has always, it's been unchanging.

• 17:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Well, and her husband doesn't recall it. Like, it's like his subconscious is doing it, but he's not. It's his soul, not his.

• 17:15Corinne Vien?

  Well, is he doing it at all? Or is Lex pulling?

• 17:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my god.

• 17:19Corinne Vien?

  Everyone to her.

• 17:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Lex, you're a witch.

• 17:22Corinne Vien?

  You witch. Oh my gosh, that is.

• 17:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So cool.

• 17:26Corinne Vien?

  Amazing.

• 17:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love finding twists on visit from loved ones because I was like, I don't want to constantly cry in these heartwarming episodes.

• 17:34Corinne Vien?

  Oh, man.

• 17:36Corinne Vien?

  Well.

• 17:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Are you gonna make me cry?

• 17:39Corinne Vien?

  I don't know. I can't from. I always, no, maybe. I don't know.

• 17:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 17:44Corinne Vien?

  I kinda can't remember what I picked out because I picked them like a couple of weeks ago.

• 17:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're also recording on the day of the blood moon lunar eclipse and I feel like emotions.

• 17:55Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 17:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Are creeping.

• 17:57Corinne Vien?

  Which, did anyone get to see it? Because it was too close to the horizon for us here in New England.

• 18:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was up on my roof at 6:00 AM waiting to see it and looked everywhere. No moon.

• 18:10Corinne Vien?

  Same. I literally pulled up my like.

• 18:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, same.

• 18:13Corinne Vien?

  Planet app. I was like, am I not knowing where west is?

• 18:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 18:18Corinne Vien?

  And it was like basically below the tree line. It was on the horizon.

• 18:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You have to be like.

• 18:22Corinne Vien?

  You have to be like on a mountain looking down because if you were just on flatland, I think most people had an obstructed view.

• 18:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:30Corinne Vien?

  Unfortunately.

• 18:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenewvo in a couple of weeks.

• 18:37Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 18:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I recently had some medical issues in my family and everyone in my family is like, let's just do everything we can to get ahead and take our own health into our own hands. Prenewvo's whole body scan is a radiation-free MRI designed to help provide a detailed, non-invasive look at your body in under an hour. And it helps evaluate across major organs and systems, including the brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis, and more. Prenewvo's whole body scan can help detect many cancers, aneurysms, and hundreds of other conditions. And they have memberships that bundle MRI scans, blood panels, and a personalized results review to track your health year after year.

• 19:19Corinne Vien?

  To learn more about Prenewvo and get $300 off your whole body MRI, go to prenewvo.com/tgog and use code T G O G. That's P R E N U V O dot com slash T G O G. Terms and conditions apply.

• 19:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Receive $300 off Prenewvo whole body scans and executive and comprehensive memberships through January 31st. For full details, visit Prenewvo's website to read their terms and conditions and privacy notice. Prenewvo gifted me a whole body scan. A Prenewvo scan is a screening service, not diagnostic. Diagnosis and treatment are determined by your healthcare provider.

• 19:50Corinne Vien?

  I have one called, well, it doesn't matter. You'll find out. Keeping it a secret until? It's from Melissa. Okay. Hello, lovely ghostly ones. I'm a new listener and I'm 100% hooked on your podcast. I have so many stories I'd love to share. I grew up in the deep woods of Vermont and my favorite ghost story is the legend of Sleepy Hollow. But I live in Pennsylvania now, but I still house sit for my dad in Vermont sometimes. And when I do, I like to wander around old cemeteries and look for poetic epitaphs. One of us. I went to a college that opened in 1792 and one of its buildings used to be a hospital in the American Revolution. So yeah, there are many stories. Damn. I also have several tales of our house ghost, whose name is Wallace.

• 20:36Corinne Vien?

  We have a comfortable cohabitation going on, though he was a little excited when he first realized that I knew he was there.

• 20:44Corinne Vien?

  So cute. I had to ask him to stop running up and down the stairs behind me because it kind of freaked me out. He very kindly woke me up from one of those dreams where you're trying to scream, but you can't. And then he snapped the hall light back on when he thought, I forgot to say goodnight one night. Wait, that's so sweet. I love Wallace. He's like, but just love me and pay attention to me too. Wait, I want to know Wallace's story. Right. And did you give him the name Wallace or did he somehow tell you his name? Interesting. Good questions. All of that aside, I was inspired to write after listening to an episode of Two Girls One Ghost that had several heartwarming stories of loved ones who visited after passing. My mom passed away a year ago this coming October and this was sent in 2025. Sorry for your loss. It's so tough.

• 21:27Corinne Vien?

  I'm not quite sure how 12 months will have passed without the person who was with me from the very second cells started doing their thing to create me. We were very close. We looked alike and we were often mistaken as sisters because she looked younger than she was. And I appeared more mature.

• 21:46Corinne Vien?

  I always said that it was the two of us against the world for so many years. We had lots of adventures and so much laughter. Little things started telling us that her memory was fading. And over 10 years, she became more and more frail with more and more of her mind disappearing.

• 22:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So tough.

• 22:02Corinne Vien?

  I spent as much time with her as I could, driving up to southeastern Vermont from Pennsylvania. And she was best described by a friend of many years who said that she was the kindest heart with an iron backbone. I learned everything from her.

• 22:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is like the best combination.

• 22:17Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 22:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I feel like the hardest thing to like, find the balance of.

• 22:20Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 22:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To have like a really strong backbone, but be so kind.

• 22:26Corinne Vien?

  Wow, yeah.

• 22:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm gonna get that tattooed.

• 22:31Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 22:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 22:33Corinne Vien?

  Now, now I have like a tattoo idea.

• 22:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's your tattoo idea?

• 22:37Corinne Vien?

  It's straight up from this listener who said that she likes going to cemeteries and like finding different epitaphs. If you have like little gravestones with the kind of like mottos to live by.

• 22:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's.

• 22:49Corinne Vien?

  As a tattoo.

• 22:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's just so big. Where would that be?

• 22:52Corinne Vien?

  Right. I think it's for someone who has like a full back tattoo or like a sleeve where it's the same thing all the way through. It's not for you.

• 22:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Corinne's inspiring all of us out here. And so is Melissa.

• 23:01Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it wasn't me. It was Melissa. She loved nature, people, art, pastry making, cake decorating, and she absolutely loved music. So when she was moved into hospice last year, I made a long playlist of every song that I could think of her loving. Starting with her prom song with my dad called Moon River, all the way into the 2000s. And it was so much fun to play the playlist and watch the little sparks of recognition in her eyes. The song she especially connected to was Country Road by John Denver. It's that the country road, take me home. I couldn't have asked for a more beautiful goodbye with my mom. As I left her room, I knew that I wouldn't see her conscious and awake again.

• 23:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 23:44Corinne Vien?

  She had almost named me Joy because she had wanted me so much. Over my whole life, she would say, you are my Joy. Ultimately, she decided on Melissa, though, because my dad's last girlfriend before her was named Joy.

• 24:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I thought she was gonna say that was named Melissa. I was like, wow, we really like the ex-girlfriend.

• 24:07Corinne Vien?

  So I gave her a big. Smile. I kissed her forehead and I told her that we loved each other. Before I left, I stopped in the doorway and I turned back to blow her a kiss. She lit up, managed to get her hand out from under the covers and blew me a kiss back. While her passing was a gift to see her free from pain, my grief was deep. I just wanted a sign from her because I didn't know where she was anymore. The next day, I went to an antique mall in Chester, Vermont, as I was house-sitting for my dad. I wanted to get out and be, is Chester, Vermont where they have the Dog Chapel? Hold on, give me one second.

• 24:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's a Dog Chapel?

• 24:45Corinne Vien?

  Oh, no, sorry. It's St. John's Berry.

• 24:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Church for dogs?

• 24:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 24:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, no, like what?

• 24:50Corinne Vien?

  It's like for people's, like, the memories of all the animals that they...

• 24:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like a pet cemetery?

• 24:57Corinne Vien?

  Yes, basically, but they put pictures of their dogs like all over the walls and there's like dog statues.

• 25:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was imagining like a church where dogs sit in the pews and...

• 25:07Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it's where it's the gathering of the canines to howl at their god. The cat.

• 25:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause cats rule the world, as we all know.

• 25:17Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so antique mall, Chester, Vermont. I wanted to get out and be around people peripherally. And so I was there for a long time, walking up and down the aisles, enjoying the odds and ends, my heart aching. I hadn't noticed there was music on until I heard the opening of Country Road. I stopped short and laughed. "I hear you, Mom," I said. But it didn't stop there. After her funeral, there was a wonderful luncheon put on by the church bereavement group. Mom had wanted a party, family, friends, new and old, eating, telling stories, laughing. I sat next to someone who said, "Of course you are," when I introduced myself as Becky's daughter. "You look just like her." Taking a moment to look around and see and feel all of the love for my mom,

• 26:02Corinne Vien?

  the Spotify station the church had put on randomly. Well, it played Country Road. One of the things mom wanted at her funeral was a piece that she had written about what she believed at her core in life. It was a lovely testament to her faith, something that we once shared. Where her faith never once wavered, mine was dwindled to hardly anything. So I tried to take this piece to heart. She said that one day in the 1970s, when bumper stickers were new and they were a big thing, she was driving behind a car and the bumper sticker said, "God is love." And that was her core belief with a lot of gratitude attached. I printed out copies of this piece and I put them by our photo collages of mom for folks to see at the table.

• 26:45Corinne Vien?

  After the last guest left, I realized how exhausted I was. The funeral was in New York State where mom had been in hospice. There were five of us in my little SUV, driving back together to Pennsylvania. My husband, me, our two college aged kids, and a friend of theirs. I slept a lot. I could not wait to get home. Content that the service was done and that so many had come, including the hospice staff, bless them.

• 27:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's so sweet. Like, that proves that she made like an impact on their lives, too.

• 27:15Corinne Vien?

  And Melissa writes, "Who surrounded me when I broke down?" So sweet. "I woke up at one point to the sky darkening and I found that we were only 10 minutes from our little house. I sat up, stretched, and at a stoplight, I looked at the car ahead of us. On the back of the car, there was a random bumper sticker that said, 'God is love.'"

• 27:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 27:35Corinne Vien?

  She kept at it. I tell everyone that she has made it abundantly clear that she is happy and whole wherever she is now. And it's like she is in the afterlife saying, "Watch this," and then zaps a sign to me. If I miss her particularly, something will always happen.

• 27:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that.

• 27:52Corinne Vien?

  A jazz song on the radio that the announcer told listeners is called "Mother Means Comfort", the title of a poem from a daily poetry email I get called "My Mother's Kitchen," and Mom was a dessert and pastry chef. One of my favorites was when I called the doctor's office and was put on hold. Mom's love for music had latched on to elevator music in her last couple of years. She always had the elevator music blasting.

• 28:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it's relaxing.

• 28:17Corinne Vien?

  The muzak song that was coming through the phone to my ear made me smile and then I realized and teared up when recognizing that this was actually my parents' prom song, "Moon River."

• 28:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No way.

• 28:32Corinne Vien?

  Luckily, no one at the doctor's office picked up until the song had played all the way through. Honestly, it felt like I was having a conversation with my mom.

• 28:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's like the one time that being put on hold and listening to the hold music is like... Wanted and desired.

• 28:45Corinne Vien?

  So faith or no faith in God or a deity, I believe there is something beyond this life. What? I don't know, but I do know that my mom is there and she'll be the one quite literally jumping up and down when it's time for me to join her.

• 28:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 28:59Corinne Vien?

  See you on the other side, Melissa.

• 29:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Melissa, that is really, really beautiful.

• 29:04Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 29:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do really believe like even like to the bumper sticker of like God is love. I think love is one of the most powerful things you can experience in life. Even in the March bonus that we did about idocratic where she was talking about how like love and that type of connection brings you to a higher spiritual level.

• 29:28Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like it's like oftentimes someone's protection against something dark. It's like you're almost impenetrable to a point if there's like too much love emanating from you.

• 29:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. So be good, be kind and love the people around you even more. Okay. This is called my dead ex is co-parenting our ghost daughter. A lot of, lot of ghosts here. Content warning, this does involve a car accident, death, loss of pregnancy, and I like this, cringe theater kid flirting techniques.

• 30:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey, gustuses at the mostises. This story has been kicking around for a little while and I just feel like y'all are the ones who would want to hear it. I've got more than a few students who listen to the podcast, so call me Sylvia if you happen to read this.

• 30:20Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 30:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, if they are listening, they're going to guess it's me anyway.

• 30:25Corinne Vien?

  That's what I was just thinking. I was like, how exciting to be listening and then being like, wait a second, I think this is my teacher.

• 30:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is this?

• 30:30Corinne Vien?

  Is this?

• 30:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I'm making them work for it. This is a long story that took place over a decade. So here's the setup. Early career theater artists often work short-term summer gigs called summer stocks. And these jobs are unbelievably low paid. I think my first one paid like a hundred and $20 a week, but the hours are insane. It's a wonder anyone makes it out alive. Sometimes they don't, which is part of this story. For as hard as they are, though, there is simply nothing like being a 20-year-old theater kid far from home with a bunch of other 20-year-old theater kids, working just as hard as you, spending every minute outside of work, being drunk or high and getting up to hijinks. Kid, you haven't lived till you're spending the summer stoned around a bonfire in the middle of Nowhere, Maine, talking about Shakespeare till 3 a.m. and making

• 31:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  out with simply anyone who walks by.

• 31:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I work in costumes, and this story starts at my first gig, which I won't name, but is an outdoor theater in a canyon in the southwest. Why do I feel like every theater party that I went to in high school, like, everyone just made out with each other? And it was like, not even like a sexual make-out, it was just like, because we could.

• 31:40Corinne Vien?

  It feels very like the stereotype of like Bandcamp.

• 31:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It very.

• 31:44Corinne Vien?

  Theater camp and Bandcamp. Isn't that what happens there?

• 31:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so it was 2012, the summer I turned 21, and I had just finished driving halfway across the country with my sister, put her on a plane back to South Carolina, and showed up to the main office of the theater to get my housing assignment. I was meant to be in a two-bedroom apartment with the female assistant technical director, and then the person assigning the room goes, "Oh, by the way, is it okay if we put you with one of the male dancers?" They all assumed Cindy and I would share a room with Andrew. I just sort of assumed that he was gay and was like, "Oh, yes, absolutely. Please put me with a gay dancer." There were a lot of assumptions going around. Once I got to the apartment, however, Cindy had been there for some time, and this is a room where it was like a single

• 32:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  bedroom and then a double. So Cindy had taken the single, meaning that I would be with Andrew in the double. Tech staff had been there for a few days before performers, so Andrew didn't move in for a bit. And when he did, our schedules were so opposite that we didn't meet for a while. He was very sweet and didn't want to scare me by just being a man all of a sudden in my room. So he kept sleeping on the couch until we could formally meet. A little farce played out where we just kept missing each other the whole time he lived in the apartment, except for one morning at 7 a.m., I accidentally woke him up on the way out of the door. Wait, this is so funny, because like, she sees him sleeping on the couch.

• 33:04Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 33:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But they've never actually like shook hands.

• 33:07Corinne Vien?

  It is awkward.

• 33:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 33:08Corinne Vien?

  Like, you know you're supposed to be there, and you know who the other person is.

• 33:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 33:11Corinne Vien?

  The arrangement, but it is still kind of.

• 33:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's funny.

• 33:14Corinne Vien?

  It's weird.

• 33:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I accidentally woke him up on the way out the door. But it was dark and so we awkwardly were like, hey, oh, hi, so sorry, didn't mean to wake you. Nice to meet you. Okay. And that was literally it. After a few days, a room opened up in an all-dude apartment and he moved out. So I assumed that would be the end of the entire thing. Just a funny little footnote to the beginning of the summer. But then he came in for his costume fitting and all bets were off. We were both like, well, shit. We really should have shared a room. That would have been something else because he definitely was not a gay dancer. Obviously, we hooked up on opening night. It was simply inevitable. We had so many connections. We were phantom roommates. We were both cute and dumb.

• 33:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And in our early twenties, there was just no way getting around it. I even did the thing where I stole his hat and sort of just wore it around opening night party. What the hell's up with that move? I did it. I did that move so many times.

• 34:10Corinne Vien?

  It's like one of those things where it's like, it feels so flirty when you do it between you and the other person, but like, to anyone else who's watching, it's so awkward.

• 34:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, flirting in general, just watching it is such a thing to observe.

• 34:26Corinne Vien?

  Don't let that stop you.

• 34:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, yeah, and it worked. It worked every time. However, because of a summer stock, the rumor wheel kicked up and kind of sucked the fun out of it. And we never got past that. So we never dated. We just kind of hooked up at parties and it became a practical joke war that I can't believe he thought for one second he could win, or maybe he didn't and it was just his way to flirt. One notable party hookup, though, the condom fell off. In my whole life, it is the only time I ever thought I might really be pregnant. I missed my period. I gained weight. My body was beard. And to this day, I'm still pretty sure I did get pregnant. And when I did start my period, it was bad.

• 35:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A lot of blood and I really think I had an early miscarriage, but at the time I didn't think and look into it too much. Anyway, I never told Andrew any of this. I think I only told one person that it happened because I didn't really know what it was. The summer wrapped up, everyone went their separate ways. Andrew and I were Facebook friends, but not like friend friends. I finished undergrad and the next summer I went off to another summer stock. And he went back for a second summer at the same theater we had been to the year before. It had been a whole year, we hadn't talked at all besides like a like on one another's pictures or a happy birthday post. In the fall, I was starting grad school for costume design and settling into my haunted

• 35:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  1890s farmhouse that was in the woods and I lived in the attic, which is a whole other story. But my first night alone in this apartment before classes started, I was trying to keep off the ghosts and I was up doing some crafty nonsense, watching New Girl. And I made a post about, oh my God, I can't believe it's taking me so long to start watching New Girl. Andrew replied to my post and was like, I told you you would love it. I'm a schmitz. And that little exchange led to us having a short, fun text conversation where it really felt like, oh, okay, we can be friends now. Forty-eight hours later, it's my second day of grad school and I woke up at like 4:00 AM, sitting straight up in bed, like can't catch my breath.

• 36:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I wasn't sick, my cat was sitting beside me, no one was blowing at my phone, everything was fine. But I felt weird, like something made me wake up at that time and I just felt really unsettled. I didn't know what it was and after a little bit, I logged onto Facebook and started seeing some posts from a lot of mutual friends. I just can't believe it. This is so tragic. Pray for our theater family, things like that. So I frantically start messaging everybody, trying to see what's going on, but I just knew. I had no reason to know, but I knew. Then someone finally answered me and said, there was an accident coming back from a party that night and a semi truck hit a car of six people head on.

• 37:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Andrew was in the car and didn't survive. It happened like the time that Sylvia woke up too. Yeah. This sent me on a years-long struggle with owning and feeling entitled to grief and trying to allow myself to feel my emotions, not to power past them. I still went into my 8 a.m. class that morning. I spent so long feeling like I didn't have a share in the grief because I wasn't there when it happened. And he and I weren't that close. It's taken me actual years to process that morning and I don't know that I'm even done processing. But I didn't have anywhere to put my sadness. I was alone in Georgia in an incredibly intense grad program. So I just dove into work and tuned it all out. He was gone. It didn't technically affect my life in a tangible way.

• 37:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I didn't want to be selfish and self-serving by taking time to mourn. Roughly four or five months later, I was in the costume shop, working at a table by myself, hand-sewing something, I had my headphones in, went out of nowhere. The headphones just fall out of my ears. I can't describe it any other way. It was just like, they were like pulled out of my ear. And then I had this feeling of like, holding my breath and sinking underwater. And I instantly knew that Andrew's spirit was there and that he was holding something. And that he was so excited and couldn't wait to show me. Oh, no, my heart. He was holding our child. And he was showing me like we were in love and like we were a family. And it was like this big romantic thing.

• 38:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He was showing me like, look, we're co-parents and I'm fine where I am. And look, I found her. She was about a year old, had his light brown hair and a smile with big eyes and freckles. And she was just, I mean, I had never wanted children in my life, but seeing her, even if it was like in my mind's eye, I just loved her. He told me her name, but I can't remember it. I don't think I'm supposed to know it yet. Moments later, I kind of came to my shop manager shaking me and making me drink water because he thought I had like passed out from exhaustion or sleep deprivation. Flash forward to the 10th anniversary of the crash. It was coming up. I was running my university costume shop, designing shows across the country, doing the thing I had dreamt of doing.

• 39:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I was so busy that I really didn't remember the date or know or consciously, I wasn't aware that this was the anniversary. But around August, I had this really hyper realistic dream. I was dreaming that I was on a road trip with my sister around the country, visiting all these theaters I had worked at, because I had left important things at each one and I needed to collect them. It was like bits of my sewing kit had been scattered around the country and it was time to collect them and put my kit back together. The Canyon Theater was the last stop. This was the theater where we met each other. We managed to make it just in time to see the musical number and they added in a tribute to the crash victims. It was sunset and a ray of sun was cresting over the canyon wall, throwing a beam of light off to my left, towards the backstage area.

• 40:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I followed that beam of light with my eyes and there he was, Andrew, beckoning me to come backstage with him. We had to be quiet because the show was going on, obviously, but then he pulled back the curtain and showed me our daughter, who was now about 11, and she was doing the steps to the dance. And he laughed and joined her and was teaching her how to dance and just kept looking at me like, "Do you see this? Do you just see how wonderful she is?"

• 40:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This one's making me cry.

• 40:29Corinne Vien?

  I know, you said you didn't want to cry.

• 40:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 40:31Corinne Vien?

  You picked out a crier.

• 40:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He then pointed me out to her and she came up to me and handed me purple sewing snips I used to wear around my neck the summer that I worked there. She gave me a hug and went back to finish the dance. I watched them together for a little while until the song was over and he came back to stand with me and watch her. He squeezed my hand and then let me know it was time for him to go. I turned and went back to join my sister, who was like, "What are you doing? Who were you talking to?" And then I looked down and saw a piece of paper in my hand. He must have slipped it into my hand when he squeezed it. The note was so simple, it just read, "We're okay. We're really okay." And there was a little hand drawn smiley face. I woke up from that dream and just had this lightness in my chest. It felt like he was making the rounds near the time of the anniversary,

• 41:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  just checking in on people, letting them know he's fine. Like he had something extra to show me. I'm an atheist and I don't really know how I feel about the afterlife. I don't know if it's reincarnation or if maybe your spirit gets taken to your most you form and you spend time doing things that held the strongest meaning for you. I don't know, maybe the reason he's never changed is that him at 21 was the most he he felt or most himself he was. But she gets to keep growing because she never got to. And now he's a single ghost dad, fulfilling his spirit and making him happy and gets to dance with her and be a dad like he always wanted to be. I don't know if it's just my brain trying to reconcile loss and validating my feelings, reminding me that I am connected to the grief, or if he really is visiting me.

• 42:01Corinne Vien?

  I feel like he's visiting you because there's also surprising things coming up. It's not like you're you're seeking some of these moments out. It's the information's being relayed to you that you didn't necessarily know.

• 42:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. See you and Andrew and my maybe child on the other side, Sylvia, for the sake of the story.

• 42:21Corinne Vien?

  Wow, Sylvia.

• 42:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It also just like is so magical because it's like a love that they never really got to see through. But it does make me believe that they are so interconnected.

• 42:33Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 42:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That unfortunately, maybe this life, they didn't get to have that full. At least you got to know each other and have like part of life with you.

• 42:41Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 42:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But that maybe in the next life, like you'll get a different, different journey.

• 42:46Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. And also, I think there's something to it that there were so many like good memories, right?

• 42:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So many.

• 42:52Corinne Vien?

  It's not like they were dating for years and years and something happened. It was like this like intense, fun burn of a romance.

• 43:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 43:01Corinne Vien?

  That's sort of like.

• 43:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where you like kept being drawn back to each other.

• 43:05Corinne Vien?

  Maybe.

• 43:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Will they, won't they?

• 43:07Corinne Vien?

  In your next life, I think it's that's certain.

• 43:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. I also am so curious to, because I I don't know timeframe of like when that last dream was, but I'm curious to see if Andrew and Sylvia's daughter will show up.

• 43:23Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 43:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like in future dreams, later in life at like different moments.

• 43:28Corinne Vien?

  Right. It is interesting, like her.

• 43:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 43:31Corinne Vien?

  Continuing to grow up. It does make me think like the three of them have to in some way be.

• 43:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Connected.

• 43:36Corinne Vien?

  A traveling soul.

• 43:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, 100%.

• 43:39Corinne Vien?

  However, however their relationship is.

• 43:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  100%.

• 43:42Corinne Vien?

  They can differ in every life, but it does feel like they're all supposed to be like locked in, connected.

• 43:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 43:50Corinne Vien?

  Okay, this is a story called "My Decapitated Uncle Is My Family's Guardian Angel."

• 43:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Does that mean he shows up?

• 43:58Corinne Vien?

  We're gonna find out.

• 43:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 44:00Corinne Vien?

  Certainly a catchy title.

• 44:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Very.

• 44:03Corinne Vien?

  Hi, ghostesses. My name is Bug and I recently started your podcast.

• 44:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So cute, Bug.

• 44:08Corinne Vien?

  I started your podcast from the beginning. I'm on episode 62. Y'all have gotten me through so many workdays and long drives, so thank you for all that you do. Now to get into the stories. I come from a family of, uh, well, with interesting history. There's a line of psychics, mediums, and potentially witches, so I have a ton of spooky stories to share. And here are just a few to get us started. When I was a kid, we had a family reunion with my mom, her parents, her three sisters, my two cousins, my brother and I. And we took a picture at my Lola, which is my grandmother, at my Lola's house. We posed along a set of stairs. My pop-pop was at the bottom with all of the grandkids. The eldest of us wasn't even 13 at the time. And then my Lola, my mom, my aunties, they're all lined up behind us.

• 44:53Corinne Vien?

  Someone set a timer on their phone and we all said our last name like cheese, but instead, insert last name here. Well, we came to look at the picture and we were pretty pleased when one of my aunties said, "Wait, whose hand is that?" Everyone started looking and sure enough, there was an extra hand on someone's shoulder.

• 45:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do we have the photo?

• 45:14Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 45:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 45:15Corinne Vien?

  Sorry.

• 45:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, just an extra hand on someone's shoulder? Wait, that's so loving.

• 45:20Corinne Vien?

  We tried so many times to disprove it, from looking at the picture to tracing where everyone's hands were, and even recreating the picture to see if anyone could have placed their hand at that angle. And the answer was no, there simply was not anyone in the house.

• 45:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ghost hand?

• 45:35Corinne Vien?

  Who wasn't in the picture, who could have been pranking us either. So we literally could not figure it out. Especially since it was obvious that this hand was a man's hand and the family was mostly women. So we chalked it up to being my uncle's hand. See, my Uncle R died about 30 years ago. It was honestly kind of tragic. He and his high school sweetheart were riding on the back of his motorcycle

• 45:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh geez.

• 45:58Corinne Vien?

  when they got in an accident and were decapitated. This happened way before I was born, so maybe when my mom was twenty. That's so horrific. Yeah. This led my family down some pretty dark paths, but ever since he died, I swear my uncle R has been keeping track of us. Just a few years after his death, my mom was driving home alone, sitting at a red light. And once the light turned green, she heard her brother's voice say, "Bubbles, wait." Bubbles was her childhood nickname. She had chills all over and she waited when not even two seconds later, a semi truck came barreling down the intersection. My gosh. Running the red light. I have chills now too. Bubbles, wait. He saved her life.

• 46:41Corinne Vien?

  She got home and she didn't tell anyone what happened because she was just so shaken up. But later that night, my mom got a call from her cousin, M. M told my mom to be careful because she had a dream the night before that my mom was in her Jeep, a red Jeep, and it flipped upside down because a big semi truck ran into her. Full body chills. Now, hearing and experiencing all of these stories growing up, of course, I was going to develop an affinity for the supernatural. So, in true fashion, last fall, my best friend and I went to a graveyard where my mom's family is buried. First, I went to go say hi to my mom's identical twin, L. L had died a month after they were born on my Lola's birthday. Around her grave were variations of my father's name.

• 47:23Corinne Vien?

  For example, if his name was Bob John Smith, there'd be other gravestones that were like John Smith and John Bob and Bob Smith. It's insane. Anyways, after finding L's grave, my friend and I went to go find my uncle R. We were searching about forty minutes to no avail. It was starting to get dark, we were tired, we were hungry, but we were still determined. So I literally said in my head, "I just wish I had a sign." When all of a sudden, a murder of crows started cawing.

• 47:54Corinne Vien?

  I look over and I see that there's a fox right below them. The fox literally looks at me in the eyes, holds eye contact for a few seconds before it slowly starts trotting away. Something told me, I should follow the fox. But as a baby witch who has had a hard time trusting her instincts, I didn't listen. My friend and I kept searching the cemetery and we're all the way on the other side. When the crows start cawing again, I look over and I see the fox. Again, the fox makes eye contact with me almost as if it was sure that I was watching. And as soon as I was, it started trotting again. So this time I follow the fox. It leads us through three different areas of the cemetery.

• 48:36Corinne Vien?

  When all of a sudden it trots over to a grave, it stands on top of it. It looks at the headstone as if it's reading it. Then the fox turns, looks at me, literally fucking nods and then trots into the bush, never to be seen again. I have full body chills. I run over to the gravestone. It was my uncle.

• 48:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is wild.

• 48:59Corinne Vien?

  My eyes start tearing up. I start laughing so much before I can even start talking to my uncle.

• 49:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's so unbelievable.

• 49:07Corinne Vien?

  It's so wild. I'm not sure if it was a spirit guarding the cemetery or maybe my uncle coming through was a fox, which kind of totally makes sense. He was in a Filipino gang and was kind of mischievous. But I'm so grateful for that night. And even still, when I'm at my Lola's house, or I simply don't know what to do, I speak to my uncle R and I can almost always hear him speaking back. Love you guys. Thank you for everything. See you on the other side, Bug.

• 49:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bug. For sure, that was his spirit as the fox because like, I feel like the attitude, the like, hey, you coming? The double checking the name, like, oh yeah, this is, this is mine. I remember.

• 49:45Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, the fox's behavior too, being like, are you looking at me? Are you sure you're not breaking eye contact? Okay, come on, let's go. Read the headstone. You got it?

• 49:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 49:55Corinne Vien?

  Like, it was like, these are the steps.

• 49:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And the saving bubbles, bubbles weight.

• 50:04Corinne Vien?

  And then, and then the relative, I can't remember if it was like a sister or cousin or something, having the dream that she had gotten in the like.

• 50:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was almost like R was doing so many different things to try to prevent the accident from happening.

• 50:17Corinne Vien?

  Or like it was supposed to happen and like that was being. Being read in the universe by the relative because she's from a family of psychics and witches.

• 50:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 50:24Corinne Vien?

  Mediums and stuff, but he was able to break through and tell her to stop. Wait, give it a second.

• 50:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I hope.

• 50:32Corinne Vien?

  Wow, wow, wow.

• 50:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  May you all who are listening have spirits who intervene and save your life. You might not even know it's happening. You might not get such a direct thing as double stop. It might be as simple as you don't know where your keys are for two minutes, but those two minutes saved you from something.

• 50:51Corinne Vien?

  Yep.

• 50:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow. Okay. I have one to wrap this up on, but then also there will be an extra story on Patreon. Um, this is from our listener Amelia and it is called, "My Dad's Spirit Turned Me Into A Believer." "Hi Sabrina and Corinne. Spotify recommended me your podcast about two months ago and..."

• 51:09Corinne Vien?

  Oh, thanks Spotify.

• 51:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, thanks Spotify. "And I have been catching up on my daily hour commute to school and to work. I love your stories and they've kept me looped into the spiritual realm as I get really busy and I forget to practice my witchcraft. I have always been very interested in the paranormal, but I've also kept it at arms length out of fear and I was too hesitant to proudly proclaim myself a believer. But the story I'm about to tell you changed my view on the universe, its powers, and it has shown me that spirits aren't always scary. For some background, my dad struggled with alcoholism for his entire life. Beer was his drink of choice. The summer before my freshman year of college, he hit rock bottom due to a couple of traffic incidents and he finally started to get sober.

• 51:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  However, after weeks of headaches and delusions mistaken as side effects from his withdrawal medication, he got diagnosed with glioblastoma, a brain cancer, and had a prognosis of 12 months."

• 52:06Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh.

• 52:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  About three months into treatment, he was put onto hospice and for the time of his illness, he was extremely delusional and often hallucinated all sorts of things in one corner of the room."

• 52:18Corinne Vien?

  That is so scary.

• 52:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So sad. "One time about a month before he passed, he told my mom of a man standing in this corner. When my mom asked who the man was, my dad replied, 'The Grim Reaper. He's waiting for me.'" Now, when he passed, our entire family was by his side and we were in our house. We watched him take his last breath and my sister, his favorite child, swears she saw a bulb of light escape from his mouth."

• 52:45Corinne Vien?

  Why did it feel like his favorite child had a little bit of?

• 52:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like she had to like.

• 52:50Corinne Vien?

  His favorite.

• 52:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And it is in parentheses, my sister, his favorite child.

• 52:56Corinne Vien?

  His favorite.

• 52:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That night, I struggled to sleep. And as I was struggling, I heard five distinct beer bottles being thrown into the trash. My sister heard two more in the morning. The following day, my siblings, my mom and I were all debriefing. And we moved from the dining room into the kitchen. And as we did, my sister placed her vape in the center of the dining room table. We were all in the kitchen when we saw her vape literally fly off the table and onto the floor. The same day, at eleven fifty eight AM, we heard someone turn our side door handle trying to come in. My dog even started freaking out and barking. The next day, same time, eleven fifty eight AM, our side door fully opened.

• 53:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Again, my dog started freaking out. The day after, we heard our second side door, which is located on the front of our main side, turn, like the doorknob, turn. Same thing, dog freaks out. I look at the time, eleven fifty eight AM. After the day we had my dad cremated, we no longer heard the door opening. And nothing as strong happened again, other than just small noises here and there. Also, one pretty large detail. So my family and I immigrated from Poland, meaning my parents and my siblings and I were the only ones in the United States. While my dad was sick, he constantly asked why his brother wouldn't come to the States to say goodbye to him, to which his brother later admitted it was simply too hard.

• 54:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the night after my dad passed, we had to call everyone, call our friends and family to let them know. And we called my aunt. And this is my dad's brother's wife. She immediately told us, before we could even tell her, that she knew what had happened. She said that the night before, she woke up to my dad standing at the foot of her bed, the night that he died.

• 54:36Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 54:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She immediately knew that he had passed. I think my dad was trying to speak to his brother one last time. But the same way he was afraid to come to the States, he had closed himself off. So he went to say goodbye through my aunt. Thank you for reading and thank you for the most interesting podcast around Warm Regards, Amelia.

• 54:56Corinne Vien?

  This is just like, it's so incredible to me how many people, like the night something happens, either get a visit from the loved one, have a dream about the loved one, or just like somehow in their body, know that something happened.

• 55:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 55:11Corinne Vien?

  And this is, this is proof, Amelia's family's proof.

• 55:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And like, her dad kept making visits to like everyone.

• 55:19Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 55:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm curious about the time, eleven fifty eight AM.

• 55:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 55:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  If that correlated with his death at all.

• 55:26Corinne Vien?

  Right. Or even just like something with, like, it just reminds me, because obviously, like, the diagnosis is so tragic and him kind of like being in this sort of

• 55:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 55:35Corinne Vien?

  weird.

• 55:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Liminal state.

• 55:37Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it reminds me of my Grammy, the last week of her life, when we were alerted by the staff that like she was about to go and she'd been suffering from dementia for like ten plus years.

• 55:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 55:48Corinne Vien?

  But that, one of the moments that they thought, like, she was dying, which was two days before she actually died, was when I had a paranormal encounter in the middle of the day, like during the nap.

• 55:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I think about my grandma too, like, who, granted, like, there are side effects of dementia where people like hallucinate and see things, but I also believe, like, they're seeing the paranormal realm, like, they are literally at the doorstep. My grandma was seeing things and talking about people like from her past. Damn.

• 56:17Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 56:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I held it together. I'm pretty proud of myself. I had a moment.

• 56:20Corinne Vien?

  This is the first one where we haven't cried.

• 56:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 56:24Corinne Vien?

  And I think it's because of where we are currently in our, we're so tired.

• 56:32Corinne Vien?

  And get like, our really, our editor Jamie's incredible. What you guys won't see is we're repeating every like three words because we can't read today. So I think those things have, have drawn us out of it slightly.

• 56:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I texted Corinne last night after, because I worked from like eight AM till eleven thirty, because it was just like a long day of stuff. And like, when I'm in a creative writing mood and I work late, I am so wired, like, I just can't sleep. Like, it takes hours and hours to fall asleep after that, which is why I usually don't work till eleven thirty, but I texted you and I was like, I'm either gonna be exhausted or really frickin weird tomorrow. And you got the exhausted.

• 57:10Corinne Vien?

  It's the exhausted.

• 57:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The weird would have been fun.

• 57:12Corinne Vien?

  I responded to it at twelve fifteen AM.

• 57:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're like, oh, we'll see how, we'll see how it goes.

• 57:18Corinne Vien?

  Hope you get some sleep.

• 57:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, if any of you have any encounters with loved ones, we would love to hear them. Or if you have any paranormal encounters at all, just because we've covered a theme or a topic on an encounters episode does not mean we won't cover it again, or that we can't find a different theme to fit your story in. So please email us all of your paranormal encounters. We might even just revisit a topic because of your email.

• 57:44Corinne Vien?

  Right, exactly. And we still do little kitchen sink where we just grab whatever.

• 57:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A free for all. So email them to us at [email protected]. And if you want an extra story and also bonus content and episodes one week early and ad free, join us on Patreon and rate and review us on iTunes.

• 58:06Corinne Vien?

  Everywhere.

• 58:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Watch us on YouTube. And yeah, one more story is on Patreon available now.

• 58:13Corinne Vien?

  Shout out to Jamie Ryan, who edits and produces Two Girls One Ghost. And thank you to all of you.

• 58:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We love you.

• 58:18Corinne Vien?

  And we will.

• 58:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See you on the other side.