Encounters x329 - Real Paranormal Evidence | Photos, Video & EVPs

We are diving headfirst into your haunted evidence this week and let’s just say… you delivered. From crystal-clear ghost photobombs in broad daylight to EVPs that feel highly intentional, we explore chilling proof that the paranormal is not just lurking, it’s interacting. Evidence includes: A photo from the Stanley hotel, where a listener captured what appears to be a full-bodied figure of Mr. Stanley himself photobombing on a staircase in the middle of the day. A photo from a haunted tour appears to show a crouching, almost inhuman figure lurking between volunteers in the darkness. Security camera footage of what looks like a ghostly child sprinting across a yard, appearing and disappearing mid-frame as nearby lights flicker. An EVP recorded on the Queen Mary that responds directly to a listener, sounding like a child gently asking “are you okay” after she says she feels tense. Photos from Waverly Hills show a figure manifesting from disembodied feet into a full shadowy person standing among a tour group. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan. Original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenuvo in a couple of weeks.

• 0:05Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 0:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I recently had some medical issues in my family and everyone in my family is like, let's just do everything we can to get ahead and take our own health into our own hands. Prenuvo's whole body scan is a radiation-free MRI designed to help provide a detailed, non-invasive look at your body in under an hour, and it helps evaluate across major organs and systems, including the brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis, and more. Prenuvo's whole body scan can help detect many cancers, aneurysms, and hundreds of other conditions. And they have memberships that bundle MRI scans, blood panels, and a personalized results review to track your health year after year.

• 0:47Corinne Vien?

  To learn more about Prenuvo and get $300 off your whole body MRI, go to prenuvo.com/tgog and use code TGOG. That's P-R-E-N-U-V-O dot com slash TGOG. Terms and conditions apply.

• 1:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Receive $300 off Prenuvo whole body scans and executive and comprehensive memberships through January 31st. For full details, visit Prenuvo's website to read their terms and conditions and privacy notice. Prenuvo gifted me a whole body scan. A Prenuvo scan is a screening service, not diagnostic. Diagnosis and treatment are determined by your healthcare provider.

• 1:18Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Football has a play for just about everything. You can go deep, keep it on the ground, or draw up something nobody sees coming. And whether you want to run a flea flicker or the tush push, you need a plan to fit your unique situation. That's why State Farm takes the time to get to know you, so they can help personalize coverage for your life and budget. Now that's a solid game plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

• 2:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey creepy friends.

• 2:10Corinne Vien?

  Do you love ghost evidence? Because over here at Two Girls One Ghost.

• 2:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two Girls One Ghost. We do.

• 2:18Corinne Vien?

  With your hosts.

• 2:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Corinne and Sabrina.

• 2:23Corinne Vien?

  Sorry, that was weird. I said that one up weird.

• 2:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That was very game showy.

• 2:26Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And this is Finn. Howdy all.

• 2:30Corinne Vien?

  Anyway, you guys are haunted and you've sent us evidence of the paranormal. We have EVPs.

• 2:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Photos, videos. I tried to, because there are a lot of Ring. Everyone has a Ring camera. Everyone has like a doorbell camera or like security cameras nowadays. Like that's just like.

• 2:47Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 2:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Normal. We have so many stories from listeners where they have like sent us evidence of videos. But there were a couple of people, couple of you who sent us links to like your Ring archive.

• 3:02Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 3:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which we can't get into, so.

• 3:06Corinne Vien?

  Oh, well, I'm glad. I'm glad we can't get in. I thought you were gonna say we suddenly had access to like.

• 3:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, no, no.

• 3:11Corinne Vien?

  All of their photos.

• 3:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was like, ooh. It was almost like as if you were sharing a Dropbox link, but it was like no longer valid or something like that. So.

• 3:19Corinne Vien?

  Okay, because I came across a couple of those. Maybe that's what it was.

• 3:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 3:22Corinne Vien?

  So I was like, why isn't this opening?

• 3:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. So for future reference. Download and attach.

• 3:28Corinne Vien?

  Or screen grab, screen record.

• 3:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. But don't worry, we have so many. This whole, I mean, this whole episode, it's themed paranormal evidence. And yeah, we have, we have evidence to be talking about.

• 3:39Corinne Vien?

  Sending us evidence, because this is a topic that we're going to keep coming back to.

• 3:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, can I start?

• 3:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 3:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, I'm very excited about this one because this is a place that we've talked about before. Actually, on the very first episode of Two Girls One Ghost ever. The Stanley Hotel.

• 3:53Corinne Vien?

  Nice.

• 3:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In Estes Park, Colorado. And there is a place in the Stanley Hotel, which is the inspiration behind The Shining and Stephen King's novel The Shining. But there is a very famous staircase in this hotel that so many people have like seen things and caught photos of ghosts. I mean, the hotel just generally is very haunted. We have a photo of Mr. Stanley himself. So this is from our listener, Kelsey, and it is called "Photo bombed by Mr. Stanley after lunch at the Stanley Hotel."

• 4:24Corinne Vien?

  In broad daylight?

• 4:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Literally broad daylight. I cannot wait to trigger this.

• 4:28Corinne Vien?

  The lunch hour?

• 4:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey, ghouls, I'm Kelsey. Feel free to use my name. I've written a couple of times. I've shared my family's Bigfoot encounters, dreams that have told the future, seeing my dead dad knock on my front door, and here is my story about the Stanley Hotel. So, growing up, my aunt worked pipeline all over the country. She traveled here and there and everywhere. Me and my sister would come out on summer breaks to spend time with her. And this summer, it was just me. My aunt was now working in Loveland, Colorado, so I was going to spend the week with her. Loveland is about an hour drive from Estes Park, and last minute, we decided we would drive to Estes Park, explore the town, and maybe have lunch at the Stanley Hotel if time permitted. We weren't looking for anything spooky to happen. It was just like, oh, let's go.

• 5:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And that hotel has great views and a really cool atmosphere. That was the vibe. I was in my late teens at the time. I was not into spooky paranormal stuff yet. Yes, I knew the Stanley Hotel was the inspiration for the Stephen King book, The Shining, but that was literally all I knew about the hotel. It wasn't until after the picture we took that I went on a deep dive. So, we walk into the Stanley Hotel and we saw the sign for ghost tours, but the next group didn't start till later in the evening, and we didn't have time for that. Being the woman my aunt is, we headed out on our own hotel tour to look around while we waited for our lunch reservation. She goes, "Just act like we're staying here if anybody asks."

• 5:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And-

• 5:52Corinne Vien?

  Like when you break into the pool and you, if someone comes by and it's like, "What room are you in?" And you're like, "312."

• 5:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Safe number. Yeah, don't say 13.

• 5:59Corinne Vien?

  They're like, "Oh, we don't have a third floor."

• 6:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Ah! We walk up the stairs to look around. I shrug my shoulders. What's the worst that could happen? Because I think they do have a sign where it's like, "Don't go upstairs, like, for guests only." But it's the middle of the day. What could go wrong? So, we look around. We act like we own the place. We stop to admire the paintings, the mirrors. Nothing special happens on the second floor. Third floor, you know, just a normal hotel, people going in and out of their rooms, walking down the halls. Fourth floor, I get a weird feeling. We step off the grand staircase onto the fourth floor, and we both get this overwhelming feeling of being uneasy, and we are filled with dread. We reach the fourth floor, and it was like we walked into a different dimension.

• 6:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was dead silent, besides the floorboards creaking as we walked down the hall. That was enough for me to say bye bye, going back down. The feeling was so hard to describe, but it was enough for me to go downstairs without a second thought. Later, we went into the dining room to have lunch, which was delicious, by the way. So if you ever have a chance, definitely have dinner at the Stanley Hotel.

• 7:03Corinne Vien?

  Have you had, have you been there?

• 7:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I stayed there.

• 7:06Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah.

• 7:08Corinne Vien?

  For some reason, you just, in my mind, you just went and visited there?

• 7:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stayed there for two nights, explored, it was great. After lunch, we stopped to take pictures together on the grand staircase. On the ride home, I'm going through the pictures, finding which ones I wanted to post to Facebook for my trip album. And I'm swiping through the photos, and there's a picture of me and my aunt on the stairs. And I see a figure standing behind us. I asked my aunt, weren't we the only ones standing on the stairs when we took pictures? Her face drained of color, saying, yes, we were. She looks at the photo and she says, that must be Mr. Stanley. I've attached the picture to this email. Keep in mind, we truly were the only people on the staircase at this time. The picture right before this has nothing in it, and the picture after it has nothing in it, just this picture.

• 7:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  After a further investigation, I really, truly do believe this is Mr. Stanley, because a lot of people say that the top of the stairs where he is standing is a portal, because him and his wife are frequently seen in this spot. You could say this trip sparked my interest and is what made me into a believer that I am today. I was 18 at the time of the story and just turned 30 in September and have been a believer ever since. Thank you for reading. See you on the other side, Kelsey. Okay.

• 8:21Corinne Vien?

  I'm pulling it up.

• 8:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't it so clear?

• 8:25Corinne Vien?

  Holy shit.

• 8:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it does look like an old timey outfit, like the long coat.

• 8:30Corinne Vien?

  Like a petticoat?

• 8:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 8:31Corinne Vien?

  Some wide leg trousers?

• 8:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 8:34Corinne Vien?

  Or like dress pants? Oh, my God, totally.

• 8:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 8:38Corinne Vien?

  It looks like the figure is crossing their arms almost.

• 8:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right, like observing them.

• 8:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 8:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stoically watching from the stairs. But like, that's the exact spot where I feel like pictures of Mrs. Stanley have been seen.

• 8:51Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, this just gave me chills.

• 8:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't it wild? We'll post it on our social media, too.

• 8:56Corinne Vien?

  It's also kind of funny that it's next to the sign that says, guests only beyond this point, and they're standing at the bottom of the stairs. And it's almost like... Like a bouncer.

• 9:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, he's like, don't come up here.

• 9:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, like the stance, like wide legs.

• 9:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 9:09Corinne Vien?

  Crossed arms.

• 9:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 9:11Corinne Vien?

  Standing at the top as if guarding the rest of the property.

• 9:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I wonder if he was up on the fourth floor because they took pictures. Actually, the pictures were taken after the lunch, but I'm curious what happened on the fourth floor. It is creepier. It does have like almost attic vibes.

• 9:26Corinne Vien?

  Oh, really?

• 9:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 9:27Corinne Vien?

  Are there rooms up there?

• 9:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm.

• 9:28Corinne Vien?

  Creepy.

• 9:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I love that hotel.

• 9:30Corinne Vien?

  Some hotels are just so scary. I'm trying to remember. There was like one hotel that my dad, but it was like, we stayed there for an Allstate trip when my dad used to work for Allstate and it was like a family trip. And there was one hotel where like my dad was staying late at an event with friends, but me and my mom and my brother were all like, let's, let's go.

• 9:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're, we're over.

• 9:49Corinne Vien?

  Back to the rooms.

• 9:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 9:51Corinne Vien?

  Me and my brother were sharing a room and my mom was sharing another one. And we had to walk my mom back to her room because the hotel was so the Stanley Hotel vibes that like she was scared and we were scared. And so like we escorted her like to her room that was like three more doors down because it was too scary to just let her walk the like extra 10 feet.

• 10:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, it makes sense that hotels have weird vibes because the amount of people who are staying there, people coming and going. And then also this hotel has so much history.

• 10:18Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 10:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Plus now because of Stephen King and because of The Shining, so many people are visiting there with this like paranormal enthusiasm, energy.

• 10:27Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 10:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That they're putting more of that onto the building and the location.

• 10:31Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, definitely.

• 10:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Making the spirits stronger.

• 10:34Corinne Vien?

  We're feeding the beasts.

• 10:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We are. We're literally feeding them with our own energy.

• 10:40Corinne Vien?

  I have one that's called EVP caught on voicemail. Hello, beautiful ghostesses. My name is Haley, she/her, and I was just on Campfire Stories with everyone sharing some photos. I forgot I had a video of an EVP from 2013, but I couldn't figure out how to send it in the chat, so I'm sorry. The voicemail was left on my mom's ex-boyfriend's phone by his mom and sister. So my mom and sister lived together and accidentally butt dialed him. And you can hear them talking to each other, which honestly kind of sounds like an EVP itself. But at the end, a voice pops up and we think it sounds like a man saying, should I tell you?

• 11:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, let's listen.

• 11:16Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 11:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I like that game.

• 11:18Corinne Vien?

  Backstory, there were no men living with them, nor was there a man there at the time. My mom's ex-boyfriend's niece used to say that she would see a man sitting on nanny's bed. So we're wondering if that was the man that showed up in the recording.

• 11:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 11:33Corinne Vien?

  Also, again, this is from 2013. Screen recording wasn't a big thing yet, so my mom was recording this on his phone. He was a handyman, so please ignore the dirt on the phone. I also looked at it again, and the voicemail was from September 5th. We recorded it because it was my birthday, December 5th. And we're talking about the paranormal because what else does one do on their birthday?

• 11:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Especially one of us.

• 11:55Corinne Vien?

  Anyway, see you on the other side, Haley. Okay, ready?

• 11:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 11:59Corinne Vien?

  Can I play it?

• 12:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Give it something? Will we play that last part again?

• 12:13Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 12:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I just keep hearing "give it something." Or "keep it down"?

• 12:22Corinne Vien?

  That's what I heard, like, "hon, keep it down."

• 12:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What do they think they hear?

• 12:26Corinne Vien?

  They heard "hush, keep it down."

• 12:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Huh, interesting.

• 12:30Corinne Vien?

  But there's no man there.

• 12:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that's wild.

• 12:32Corinne Vien?

  And it's like, that person's right on the phone.

• 12:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whereas like, the other voices are farther away.

• 12:37Corinne Vien?

  And it's saying that like, she had butt dialed her ex-boyfriend, but it almost sounds like the ghost called them. Because the spirit's voice is right there.

• 12:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So it feels intentional.

• 12:47Corinne Vien?

  Right on the phone, yeah.

• 12:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm curious who this man is on nanny's bed, too.

• 12:52Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, right, the other person.

• 12:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is it the grandfather? I'm curious.

• 12:55Corinne Vien?

  Maybe, I don't know.

• 12:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But then if the ghost is purposely making this call, saying "keep it down," for what purpose?

• 13:01Corinne Vien?

  Or was he nervous that they did accidentally butt dial, and then they were gonna start gossiping or say something wrong? So it's like, "hey, hey, hey, your phone is going, don't say anything you would regret."

• 13:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so terrified of butt dialing. Like, have you ever been trying to tell someone about a conversation? So you like, open those texts with that person? And you're like, reading it, and then you're talking about it? I'm always so scared that I'm going to-

• 13:25Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I have done that.

• 13:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Call them.

• 13:28Corinne Vien?

  Oh, oh, oh.

• 13:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You've called them?

• 13:30Corinne Vien?

  No, no, no, I thought you meant like, when you're trying to tell someone something that happened to someone, and like, you accidentally text that person-

• 13:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 13:38Corinne Vien?

  About it.

• 13:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, I was thinking the other day, I was with Ash, and I opened text messages and was like, relaying a conversation.

• 13:45Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 13:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I was like, "I feel like this is so dangerous."

• 13:48Corinne Vien?

  Well, with like, Siri and stuff, saying someone's name, I definitely do have the fear of doing that.

• 13:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 13:53Corinne Vien?

  As well. Although I technically just called our boss for crime, or not called our boss from Crimes Ev, I texted him-

• 14:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'll kiss you.

• 14:01Corinne Vien?

  I'll kiss you.

• 14:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Instead of I'll miss you.

• 14:04Corinne Vien?

  Because we were talking about South by Southwest plans and like what the dates were that everyone was going and I'll just miss him. So like date wise, but like a day. So I typed, I'll just miss you. And it said, I'll just kiss you.

• 14:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kiss you.

• 14:17Corinne Vien?

  And you go back, wow, what a typo.

• 14:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's good we're friends with him, too.

• 14:26Corinne Vien?

  Oops.

• 14:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, God, that's so funny. I love autocorrect. Or typos, I guess. That's not autocorrect. That's auto incorrect.

• 14:34Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. I mean, all my stuff is wrong because I use voice to text for almost everything. I don't, I don't.

• 14:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's why you said, don't get a motorcycle.

• 14:42Corinne Vien?

  Don't get a motorbike.

• 14:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Get a motorbike.

• 14:44Corinne Vien?

  Do not get a motorbike.

• 14:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenewvo in a couple of weeks.

• 14:51Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 14:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I recently had some medical issues in my family and everyone in my family is like, let's just do everything we can to get ahead and take our own health into our own hands. Prenewvo's whole body scan is a radiation free MRI designed to help provide a detailed, non-invasive look at your body in under an hour, and it helps evaluate across major organs and systems, including the brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis, and more. Prenewvo's whole body scan can help detect many cancers, aneurysms, and hundreds of other conditions. And they have memberships that bundle MRI scans, blood panels, and a personalized results review to track your health year after year.

• 15:33Corinne Vien?

  To learn more about Prenewvo and get $300 off your whole body MRI, go to prenewvo.com/tgog and use code TGOG. That's P-R-E-N-U-V-O.com/tgog. Terms and conditions apply.

• 15:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Receive $300 off Prenewvo whole body scans and executive and comprehensive memberships through January 31st. For full details, visit Prenewvo's website to read their terms and conditions and privacy notice. Prenewvo gifted me a whole body scan. A Prenewvo scan is a screening service, not diagnostic. Diagnosis and treatment are determined by your healthcare provider.

• 16:04Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Football has a play for just about everything. You can go deep, keep it on the ground, or draw up something nobody sees coming. And whether you want to run a flea flicker or the tush push, you need a plan to fit your unique situation. That's why State Farm takes the time to get to know you so they can help personalize coverage for your life and budget. Now that's a solid game plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

• 16:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have one called Ghosts Caught on Camera. And this is another photo. So again, we will post this on our social media. But if you're listening and want to see the photos while we're talking about them, you can join us on YouTube, which you can see our faces and the photos. Okay, this is from our listener Anna. Hello, my lovely ghostesses. First off, I just want to say how incredibly grateful I am to have discovered your podcast a few years ago. It's so refreshing to see two gorgeous badass babes embracing the weird and sharing spooky stories. You've created such an amazing, warm, and welcoming community, and I cannot thank you enough for all the passion, dedication, and hard work you've poured into it.

• 17:11Corinne Vien?

  Wow, so many compliments.

• 17:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow, so nice. You have inspired me to share my own passions with the world, which I now do as Anna the Eclectic Witch on YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok.

• 17:22Corinne Vien?

  So cool.

• 17:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So check out Anna. But now, on to the good stuff. In the latest episode of Two Girls and a Ghost, I heard you were looking for ghost footage and stuff caught on camera. Well, I have two pretty impressive captures that I would love to share with you. The first is security camera footage captured at a Florida beach house owned by a family of one of my closest friends. And the story begins about nine years ago when a group of college friends and I road tripped from central Illinois to Florida to spend spring break at Emma's family beach house. Back then, we were young, carefree, and completely obsessed with chasing thrills and creating unforgettable stories. So at this time, some of us had developed a risky habit of playing Ouija boards. On the regular.

• 18:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We were students at Millikan University in Decatur, Illinois. One of the most haunted campuses in the States. We would do things like gather at midnight in the old gym and try to contact the ghosts rumored to be haunting the running track, which could be a torture for eternity for some people. If you had to spend time running the racetrack.

• 18:27Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 18:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're like running the mile.

• 18:29Corinne Vien?

  Torture for me. A timed mile? Oh, sorry. I have period cramps. I can't.

• 18:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A classmate of ours, who was far more versed in all spooky things than we were at the time, caught wind of our Ouija board experiments. And one day after class, she pulled me aside and warned me that this could be dangerous, that it could potentially lead to disastrous outcomes if we didn't know what we were doing. Stupidly, I just shrugged off her warnings. I mean, like, we're college seniors. We're invincible. That was my attitude. So, fast forward to the beach house. We were two days into our spring break trip when one night, Emma pulled out a stashed away Ouija board from one of the closets. I was obviously thrilled, but a few of our friends noped out and went to bed. So, that night, a small group of us stayed up to use the board. We called out to every spirit we could. The board spout out deeply personal memories that no one else could have known, leaving us all in tears.

• 19:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We were literally up all night playing with the Ouija board until the next morning sun was already high up in the sky. Recalling that night reminds me of the scene from the movie Talk To Me, where a group of kids are taking turns connecting with the other side. It was like we were obsessed, but we were treating it like it was just another party game. Unfortunately, none of us truly understood how serious using a Ouija board could be. And we definitely did not know or follow the rules, so we didn't close our sessions properly. Looking back, it's hard to say how many sessions there were or how many of them we left closed improperly. But what followed that time was a string of very difficult events in my life. Lost jobs, car accidents, sexual assault, an ectopic pregnancy, plus moving into a haunted apartment with really dark energy.

• 20:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I truly believe that I acquired a negative attachment after that night when we played the Ouija board on spring break.

• 20:11Corinne Vien?

  Oh, man.

• 20:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I am proud to say that after a lot of hard work, I have been able to rid myself of it. And now I view those past hardships as pivotal experiences that have shaped me into the resilient woman I am today. Well, we're still sorry you experienced any of that. That's horrible. So the video I want to share was captured about a year after our beach house trip. It shows what appear to be two separate ghostly orbs flying around the living room. That very room where we used the Ouija board that night. One of the orbs comes back into the room, moving with intention, almost as if it's inspecting the space. It even looks to take a moment, sits on the couch, and then flicks away in a way that really does feel deliberate. Fortunately, our use of the Ouija board doesn't seem to have brought purely negative outcomes.

• 20:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In fact, we believe that while we definitely connected with something darker, we also reached out to positive spirits too. Spirits that might still protect the beach house to this day. Because that house has miraculously survived two hurricanes that devastated all their surrounding homes and buildings. The house only escaped with minor cosmetic damage. Well, it sounds like you took the negative energy with you. Adding to the house's mysterious energy, a beach whale washed ashore right in front of it. A phenomenon with profound spiritual significance when I researched. I'm a huge believer in signs, and this was literally too big to ignore. All of these events, amongst other strange experiences reported by Emma and her family,

• 21:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  that all began after our visit, really do lead me to believe that maybe we opened some type of portal there. What I do know for sure is that this video is fascinating, especially in light of the story we shared. So we'll look at that video, and then I'll share the second story.

• 22:18Corinne Vien?

  I mean, at first, it looked like there were two coming out at the same time.

• 22:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They were, but this thing, it's like there for a while.

• 22:24Corinne Vien?

  And it's like getting longer. It's like a little tic-tac.

• 22:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like a little fairy.

• 22:28Corinne Vien?

  It is like a fairy. Like a little tiny mini person just jumping around.

• 22:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm curious about the date that this was taken and like if something happened in the surrounding area. Yeah, hanging on the couch and then just like hanging on the living room, which is this is the room where they played the Ouija board.

• 22:47Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, there's so much time spent like it's.

• 22:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. It's a long one.

• 22:51Corinne Vien?

  Interesting.

• 22:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 22:53Corinne Vien?

  I don't know either. Orb videos, it's always like so confusing.

• 22:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 22:57Corinne Vien?

  It's like, what is it?

• 22:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 22:59Corinne Vien?

  Who is it?

• 23:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And like, I know a lot of orb videos can, you know, sometimes it's like dust or it's a spider or something, an animal on the the lens, but there's also so many, including this, that I feel like it's not.

• 23:13Corinne Vien?

  But you also see this one come from like a faraway room.

• 23:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 23:17Corinne Vien?

  Into view and then just like puts around the room.

• 23:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Just hanging out. Anyway, the next story and the next photo is almost unbelievable. So this photo was sent to me by my sister who got it from a friend of hers who we'll call Sophie. In the spring of 2024, Sophie went camping in Virginia with her boyfriend. One evening, after setting up a cozy campfire beside their camper, Sophie's boyfriend stepped inside to grab something. Wanting to capture the moment, Sophie decided to stay outside and she took a picture of their campsite. As soon as she snapped the photo, she checked to see how it turned out and what she saw left her in shock. Standing next to the fire is the figure of a man with a red beard, wearing what looks like long johns.

• 24:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sophie was completely alone and in order to get to her boyfriend, she would have had to run past the spot where the ghostly man appeared in the photo. Terrified, she instead bolted all the way to a neighboring campsite for safety. And if you look at the photo, I mean, she looked at it immediately.

• 24:19Corinne Vien?

  What the fuck? Ew, I have chills because you see the pants, you see a different colored shirt and then you see the face and head that like looks as if this person is looking in this direction, like that looks like the face skin.

• 24:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can see like the outline of the arms too.

• 24:35Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 24:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't that wild?

• 24:37Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh.

• 24:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And also, it's not like she looked at it later and was like, oh my God, was there another man there? No, like in the moment, she looked at it, was able to look at the campfire. No one is there.

• 24:48Corinne Vien?

  You know what it also kind of looks like?

• 24:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 24:50Corinne Vien?

  Now I'm zooming in, because she said long johns. If you really zoom in, it almost looks like it's, it could be camping gear or like running gear where people wear the leggings, like runner leggings underneath shorts. Because doesn't it kind of like, there's runner, like a...

• 25:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The shirt looked like blue, the pants looked like whitish.

• 25:07Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 25:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so Anna said, given Virginia's history of war and mining, there's an idea that this could be a spirit from one of those eras.

• 25:16Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 25:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Especially considering the man's beard and if it feels like long johns, maybe that also works with that.

• 25:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, maybe.

• 25:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm super stoked to share it with the Two Girls with a Ghost community because it is easily one of the clearest ghost photos I've ever seen. Thank you so much for reading. I'm so grateful that you have this incredible collection of evidence proving that the paranormal absolutely exists. XOXO, until next time, earthlings. Anna, the Eclectic Witch.

• 25:44Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I don't know if it's just like pareidolia or whatever it's called, or if I'm literally seeing like the eyeballs and nose.

• 25:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In this specific photo?

• 25:52Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 25:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I almost like, I kind of see the beard, but I feel like that face is so unclear compared to the rest of it.

• 25:59Corinne Vien?

  Like I was kind of seeing eye sockets, mouth.

• 26:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I see a black screen, a lot of fingerprints on your

• 26:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  on your computer. That is all I see.

• 26:09Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, it's probably, I'm probably just like pareidolia.

• 26:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 26:15Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 26:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, but it is, it's intense.

• 26:17Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that's freaky.

• 26:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I love how she ran away and then her boyfriend's just in the camper, right next to it.

• 26:23Corinne Vien?

  Right next to the ghost who's outside.

• 26:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wild.

• 26:26Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 26:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Spooky.

• 26:28Corinne Vien?

  Camping is so scary.

• 26:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Camping with a camper is more ideal than camping in a tent.

• 26:33Corinne Vien?

  Yes, I agree.

• 26:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because you can lock the doors.

• 26:36Corinne Vien?

  In a family of tent campers.

• 26:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which just feels not like you at all. Like it makes sense, but I couldn't see you doing that now.

• 26:44Corinne Vien?

  I'm so scared.

• 26:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, the most camping I did.

• 26:46Corinne Vien?

  The camping was not like intense camping.

• 26:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sure.

• 26:49Corinne Vien?

  You know, like, well, it was like at a campground, you know? And it was with... We'd go to Lake Elmore in Vermont and it would be like five or six families and we'd all get this, like we'd reserve the like giant plot or whatever. So everyone had their tents and there was one family that would have a camper. Everyone else was in tents, like all set up next to each other. So there's always someone around.

• 27:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I wish I was a camping person. Like I look at Danielle and Cassie's life from National Park After Dark and I like, I really wish, like I think chemically there is something off in my brain that will not allow me to be that type of person. But I see their trips. I see the things that they see and I'm like, wow, that's so beautiful.

• 27:28Corinne Vien?

  Right. Like it feels healing.

• 27:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the fear of the unknown and the fear of bugs, specifically spiders, just is way too strong.

• 27:39Corinne Vien?

  Right. I wouldn't be able to do it.

• 27:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 27:41Corinne Vien?

  I know that I couldn't.

• 27:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I live vicariously through them.

• 27:44Corinne Vien?

  Like Brian, well, my sister in law, she is a big camper. Her and her husband Joe will go camping like in a little tent.

• 27:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 27:52Corinne Vien?

  Stuff like that. And so Brian and I have talked like, oh, whenever like in the future, when we want to do like family camping, we have a few places that we've been like, we're going to recommend these places because we can rent a cabin and stay in like an air conditioned.

• 28:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Everyone else can have a tent.

• 28:08Corinne Vien?

  Cabin with the bathroom and like sheets.

• 28:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 28:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're little princesses.

• 28:16Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 28:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're inside girls.

• 28:20Corinne Vien?

  We are. We want to be, we're the ghost.

• 28:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're indoor cats.

• 28:24Corinne Vien?

  Okay. This is another photo and it's from someone named Sabrina.

• 28:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bitch stole my name.

• 28:30Corinne Vien?

  Bitch stole my name. Hi, my name is Sabrina and I'm currently watching you both on my big fat fabulous life.

• 28:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey.

• 28:36Corinne Vien?

  I've also been listening to your podcast and I absolutely love it. I wanted to share a photo that I took during a haunted walking tour in downtown Leesburg, Virginia. Last October, every year the Luden Museum hosts these ghost tours around town, led by volunteers who share real historical stories. Each location during the tour last year, we stopped at Harrison Hall, historically known as the place where General Robert E. Lee received treatment. It was completely dark outside with only three lanterns, two carried by the volunteers and one placed on the ground. I was standing towards the back of the group as they began to tell their story. I stepped forward to snap a quick photo of the two volunteers in costume. And when I got home and looked at the photo,

• 29:19Corinne Vien?

  I noticed something very eerie between the two volunteers. There appears to be a faint figure, a man, possibly a soldier, squatting down with his hand to his head as if he's listening carefully to the story. The strange thing is, there was no one there. No actors, no reenactors, no people behind these volunteers. And given how dark it was and the clear visibility of this figure when zoomed in, I truly believe this photo captured something paranormal. It goes to soldiers still lingering at Harrison Hall. I don't know. But I'd love to share the photo with you if you're interested.

• 29:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're always interested.

• 29:54Corinne Vien?

  It gave me chills when I saw it, and I think you might get a kick out of it from Sabrina.

• 29:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, this does not look like a soldier. This is horrifying.

• 30:02Corinne Vien?

  That's what I said. I like already started to respond. I was like, soldier makes sense, but like,

• 30:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It looks like it's crouching down like Gollum. It's like going like this, like stay quiet.

• 30:14Corinne Vien?

  Shh. It looks like a combination of Beetlejuice and the creature from a shape of water.

• 30:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my, it looks bald. You can see the arms. You can see the, that's the one thing is like, it definitely has a humanoid body and does look like it's squatting. Like you can see its knees.

• 30:33Corinne Vien?

  It's got the Beetlejuice hair where it's like the bald head, but like the stringy hair coming outside.

• 30:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Oh.

• 30:40Corinne Vien?

  I, yeah, I know. I immediately was like, I don't know if it's a soldier. It doesn't really look human.

• 30:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's so creepy.

• 30:50Corinne Vien?

  But it's creepy. You're right. It does look less of like resting and more of like,

• 30:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Shh. Yeah. How creepy. Oh my God, I do not like that.

• 31:00Corinne Vien?

  I know, very scary. And you can clearly see the volunteers, right? Like the one woman is wearing the skirt and then there's. The other person in pants next to-

• 31:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  With like the hat.

• 31:10Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, you can see like the two-

• 31:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like he looks like he's in more of like a military uniform.

• 31:14Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The creature, which we're gonna call it, looks to be wearing either like a T-shirt or is like, it's very skin-

• 31:23Corinne Vien?

  It feels like amphibian humanoid figure.

• 31:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't like it. But a hospital used to be here? So like, it could be a wounded person?

• 31:34Corinne Vien?

  Oh yeah. You know what it kinda looks like? You know, um, the movie Shutter Island? Where like the one woman is outside in the garden and she turns and she's got this stringy hair and she's like-

• 31:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 31:44Corinne Vien?

  Kinda looks like her.

• 31:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It also could be someone like taking a dump.

• 31:50Corinne Vien?

  Ah, pinching their nose.

• 31:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, like it smells bad out here.

• 31:54Corinne Vien?

  Damn.

• 31:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, in the wars back then, like, we had, they probably just dug a little hole.

• 32:00Corinne Vien?

  Roses really smell like-

• 32:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ah!

• 32:03Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, ooh.

• 32:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is horrifying.

• 32:05Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, stinky.

• 32:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What do you see?

• 32:08Corinne Vien?

  Let us know.

• 32:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do you see what I see?

• 32:10Corinne Vien?

  Do you think it's a soldier? Or do you think it's something else?

• 32:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. I don't think it's a soldier.

• 32:15Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 32:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have another one, and this one is like a very, there's like not even a story with it, but it is such a chilling video.

• 32:24Corinne Vien?

  Ew, I'm already-

• 32:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 32:26Corinne Vien?

  Have the heebie-jeebies.

• 32:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is from Cole, and it just says, "Hey, hi, hello there, from P A. My neighbor just caught this on their van camera and I had to send it your way. What do you think? Love y'all, keep it spooky, from Cole." There's no sound, so you can watch it.

• 32:41Corinne Vien?

  Acridic message.

• 32:46Corinne Vien?

  That is someone walking.

• 32:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Doesn't it look like a little ghost child?

• 32:50Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 32:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it comes out of nowhere-

• 32:52Corinne Vien?

  And then they stop and pause and they kinda take off a little bit faster.

• 32:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then disappear again. If you're just listening, it's like a photo of an entryway, so like the out looking exterior. And there's like two pillars. And the ghost appears from one pillar, runs between them, disappears. And you can see the like yard on either side. It doesn't, it doesn't come from the other side of the yard.

• 33:15Corinne Vien?

  Wait, you know what's confusing?

• 33:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 33:17Corinne Vien?

  And I don't know if this is the light of the Ring camera doing this, or if there's something is triggered, but the second that the figure comes into view, the light on the house, like the upstairs light and the house behind it is on, or it looks- Brighter.

• 33:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Brighter.

• 33:34Corinne Vien?

  And then as soon as the figure goes out of you, that light turns off like a second later.

• 33:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It almost makes me think like it's like an energetic light from the spirit. Cause it's timed exactly with this.

• 33:46Corinne Vien?

  Yes. And you don't see any movement in the home in those windows. Cause there's no shades or anything. Like it just looks like it almost like a three second long flicker of the light.

• 33:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you can like see the legs and like the way the energy, like the body starts running.

• 34:03Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 34:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't that wild? We have no other context. This is a neighbor somewhere in Pennsylvania.

• 34:10Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh.

• 34:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't that wild?

• 34:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that's so crazy.

• 34:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause when I first saw it, I was like, okay, like maybe this is like a legit kid or like someone in the neighborhood just like ran through the backyard.

• 34:19Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 34:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You would be able to see them enter frame and exit frame. They disappear mid-frame.

• 34:25Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm. Well, and just the fact that a little light in that other building is doing something makes me think. Cause sometimes it's like, yeah, the camera can be a little glitchy at night. It comes out of nowhere from that one side of the pool.

• 34:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Saying. It comes out of nowhere and disappears into nowhere. Also, I think about how many people have had paranormal encounters captured on their ring cameras and stuff, but like they don't know it.

• 34:46Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 34:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because even me, like I have a little camera in my apartment to just for Leia, monitoring Leia. And I don't check it every day to like see all the motion detections.

• 34:58Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 34:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause I get home to my apartment totally fine. Leia's totally fine. I'm not checking.

• 35:03Corinne Vien?

  Going through it. Right. I know. And I feel like the same for, I had a camera that was set up when I like lived alone in an apartment in Boston. And even here, like the baby monitor and stuff, there's a million notifications. But then whenever you go in, it's like the sunlight changing or something, or like a car light.

• 35:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So you don't always check all of them.

• 35:22Corinne Vien?

  No, you don't. Unless you like clearly see a person or like figure detected.

• 35:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 35:26Corinne Vien?

  It's just like, oh, well, we're probably missing so much.

• 35:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's so much unknown footage out there.

• 35:33Corinne Vien?

  All of the few times that Noah has woken up like screaming bloody murder and so scared. I have replayed the baby monitor footage. Cause I'm like, are we getting hacked? Is someone saying something to him? But I haven't found anything.

• 35:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love how your first thought is, are we getting hacked? I would for sure think, is there a spirit in the room?

• 35:51Corinne Vien?

  A human is scarier to me.

• 35:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, for sure, but like hacked is different than a human in the room.

• 35:58Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 36:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  True.

• 36:01Corinne Vien?

  Anyway.

• 36:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Spirits aplenty.

• 36:03Corinne Vien?

  Spirits aplenty, and then we have more.

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• 36:37Speaker 02

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• 37:05Corinne Vien?

  Hello, my name is Sarah, and you two have been lifesavers through this pandemic. Thank you for doing all the hard work that you do to entertain us. I've just started listening to episode 180, and as soon as I heard you mention Queen Mary, I kicked myself because I've been trying to share this story with you guys through Campfire Stories, but I have not had any luck, so here I am. I have been on the Queen Mary quite a few times, and I've been on a paranormal tour twice.

• 37:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You've been on Queen Mary, right?

• 37:30Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm.

• 37:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You did a tour?

• 37:31Corinne Vien?

  And I did the tour.

• 37:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 37:32Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 37:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's one place I have not been.

• 37:34Corinne Vien?

  My husband knew how much I loved the Queen Mary, and he actually proposed to me on the ship in front of...

• 37:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was my water.

• 37:40Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 37:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was saying, "Ah," to the... To the proposal. I was like, "How beautiful."

• 37:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 37:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I kicked my water over.

• 37:45Corinne Vien?

  In front of my whole family. Best day ever.

• 37:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The spooky magic.

• 37:50Corinne Vien?

  My husband and I went on a paranormal tour, March of 2018, and we didn't have super high expectations. We just really loved being on the ship. One thing that I noticed right off the bat was that I felt like I was in a different dimension. I just kind of felt foggy. The tour guide was great. He had instruments that we could all use and share. We didn't have that on my tour. And one tool that I always seemed to be handed was the dowsing rods. They look like metal hangers bent and a spirit can manipulate them to cross and part to answer yes or no questions.

• 38:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which they're originally created to find water.

• 38:22Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm. People still use them to find water.

• 38:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And ghosts.

• 38:26Corinne Vien?

  I had mentioned that I had been on the tour before and on that tour, I felt a really strong connection with a little girl. Everyone knows about the ghost girl and I can't remember her name, but this time I was wondering if maybe I could feel her again. And I did. This boofiest part of the ship is the boiler room.

• 38:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And the pool, right?

• 38:44Corinne Vien?

  The pool.

• 38:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Those two are like the ones that everyone talks about.

• 38:47Corinne Vien?

  The tour guide that we had was basically like terrorized and chased out of the pool area by the little girl.

• 38:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My god.

• 38:54Corinne Vien?

  Lured into the women's bathroom and like looking through all the stalls and then it slammed and then he went sprinting.

• 39:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Terrifying.

• 39:02Corinne Vien?

  Okay, they didn't fix it up too much and I think the aesthetic is perfect for their Halloween haunt that they put on in October. The tour guide split the group in two. My husband and I were handed the dowsing rods and then we walked down the path so that we could ask questions alone. We wanted to record any EVPs and thought that if we were close to people, it would mess up the recording. So we took turns voice recording. My husband placed his on top of a metal box. I had the rods and he was asking questions. I didn't really feel comfortable holding the rods. I actually felt pretty shaky. So at one point I said, ugh, I feel so tense. And I remember dropping the rods and handing them off. We walked away and went to go check out the rest of the ship. The next day, my husband and I took the time to listen to the voice recordings and we did catch a couple of good EVPs.

• 39:48Corinne Vien?

  But they were a little bit iffy, except for one. And we're gonna listen to it right now.

• 39:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my gosh, can't wait.

• 40:01Corinne Vien?

  I'm like, super tense, like.

• 40:11Corinne Vien?

  Okay, ready? I'm gonna play that again.

• 40:14Corinne Vien?

  She goes, oh, I'm super tense, like, ugh. And then listen after that.

• 40:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What does it say?

• 40:34Corinne Vien?

  It's a little girl saying, "Are you okay?"

• 40:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But she also says something in the beginning before that, like me, or like-

• 40:40Corinne Vien?

  I heard, "You okay? Are you okay?"

• 40:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You heard it twice?

• 40:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 40:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh. Wow.

• 40:46Corinne Vien?

  Which she, I think she just heard once. She said-

• 40:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's wild.

• 40:49Corinne Vien?

  That she heard what sounds like a little girl saying, "Are you okay?" She goes, "Oh, I just feel really tense." And then I hear, "You okay? Are you okay?"

• 41:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow. That's so cool. I also love this idea that like she's been to the ship so many times, that the ghost recognizes her, remembers her.

• 41:16Corinne Vien?

  Aww, little ghost girl. Yeah, and this was from Sarah.

• 41:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Damn, Sarah.

• 41:21Corinne Vien?

  And her little ghost girlfriend on the Queen Mary.

• 41:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love it. Now, it makes me wanna go. I just wanna go, I just wanna go see some ghosts. Wanna hang out with the ghosties right now.

• 41:30Corinne Vien?

  I was actually really scared on the Queen Mary. I think because I was just anticipating it being so freaky and like I've been on ghost tours and stuff before, but I feel like this, something about being on a ship, even though it's docked.

• 41:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 41:41Corinne Vien?

  It felt kind of like I was trapped.

• 41:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It also has like a really, well, yeah, cuz they're like the window, you can't see out, and windows are really small.

• 41:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, you can't just like run for your life easily. There's a lot of zigzagging and traversing a maze to get out of there if something goes wrong.

• 41:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Makes me wanna go to it more. Okay, I have another one about a place we talk about going and wanting to go, but being scared of all the time.

• 42:07Corinne Vien?

  One of the most horrifying places that we could potentially ever go to.

• 42:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Waverly Hills asylum.

• 42:13Corinne Vien?

  And to think that there are quite a few listeners here who've also been.

• 42:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I feel like most people who do go have some type of paranormal evidence and they experience something. Like if you want to go believe in the paranormal, go to Waverly Hills. Okay, so this is from our listener Alyssa. "Hey, Ghouls, long time listener, first time emailing. I'm like five minutes into a episode on Patreon and I realized I forgot to send you this photo." So a few years ago, a few of my friends went on a tour at Waverly Hills. I didn't go because I was pregnant and a chicken, but they got back to their hotel room and were going through photos that they took. And oh my gosh, you guys, look at this shit. There are two photos. The first one on the left, you can see two feet like manifesting.

• 42:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then in the second one, you see a whole ass man standing in the spot where the feet were manifesting in the first photo. He is so tall. Look at how tall he is in reference to the other people on the tour in the photo on the left. Also to note, my friend said that the whole hallway was dark. She took the photo and when she went to look back at them, the room was lit up. So she was scared and she ended up deleting these after I made her send them to me, which that's fine. I'm glad we got them first. Love you ladies, Alyssa. Look at the first one.

• 43:28Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 43:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  First one is like, it's almost like you can see the black smoke around it, around the feet. Then look at the second photo.

• 43:36Corinne Vien?

  It's interesting because it's like everyone's lined up facing there, almost like to take a picture. I mean, they're taking pictures of like the cells or whatever, or just like looking in, but it looks like he's po- like this thing is posing.

• 43:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Look at the second photo.

• 43:49Corinne Vien?

  Oh dear Lord. Ew, do you see the face?

• 43:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but it does feel like it hasn't fully formed, like.

• 43:57Corinne Vien?

  It's like a mask.

• 43:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, but like in the first one, you really only see the legs and there's like kind of a darker mist around the bottom of the feet, which I imagine is it like gathering its energy to like form the full body.

• 44:09Corinne Vien?

  The mask kind of reminds me, I'm totally going to butcher this, but there's somewhere in Asia, we talked about it, there's like some, because someone had like a haunted mask from there, there's some mask.

• 44:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kabuki?

• 44:19Corinne Vien?

  Is it?

• 44:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The Kabuki Theater masks?

• 44:21Corinne Vien?

  Is it, it's on, I'm thinking of.

• 44:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kabuki Theater, they're like painted, they have different expressions and stuff.

• 44:25Corinne Vien?

  It kind of looks like they're wearing one of those.

• 44:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but you can see how from the first photo where it's just the feet, like they look kind of like blobby feet, right? There's no like definition to them. But then in the second photo, you can see more of like shoes, pants, like a long jacket coat situation.

• 44:44Corinne Vien?

  I wonder which one was taken first.

• 44:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The feet.

• 44:47Corinne Vien?

  The feet, was the first one?

• 44:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 44:49Corinne Vien?

  Because then that's as if they're taking a step backwards.

• 44:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 44:52Corinne Vien?

  Because it was like the first one, they were in motion. So I wasn't sure if they were stepping forward or stepping back.

• 44:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 44:58Corinne Vien?

  And then the second one, they're just standing in place.

• 45:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 45:02Corinne Vien?

  As everyone faces them and they face.

• 45:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See, way over the hills, it delivers again.

• 45:07Corinne Vien?

  It does. That is so freaky.

• 45:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I will say for the like, light thing, our phones nowadays do when you take like a night mode picture, they brighten the space so much, even if it's dark.

• 45:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 45:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I feel like that's not, that's not paranormal, but like more of a camera skill.

• 45:25Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. I mean, the paranormal piece is li-

• 45:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The ghost.

• 45:27Corinne Vien?

  Literally a ghost. There's a full figure, not even just the shape of the ghost. Like you can make out what they're wearing.

• 45:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 45:34Corinne Vien?

  Crazy.

• 45:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I like this whole episode is making me want to go on an investigation so badly.

• 45:41Corinne Vien?

  I know. Well, we might.

• 45:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 45:44Corinne Vien?

  We always find a way that when I'm like about to give birth, suddenly we're somewhere. We always, as if we've done it more than-

• 45:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All the times you've been pregnant.

• 45:53Corinne Vien?

  All the times.

• 45:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Constantly pregnant.

• 45:56Corinne Vien?

  I just keep thinking about when we were at, uh, S K Pierce and then I pooped out now, uh, two mu- two weeks later.

• 46:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Pooped out.

• 46:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or when you fell asleep at Lizzie Borton. We did too, when you were pregnant with Noah.

• 46:08Corinne Vien?

  S K Pierce, I was a little more active than-

• 46:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you were.

• 46:11Corinne Vien?

  Lizzie Borton, I was too tired. I slept the whole time. Okay, this one is fucked up.

• 46:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh no.

• 46:20Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, I like, don't even like looking at it. Hi, my name is Marion. This isn't my photo, but it's my sister-in-law's photo. In her mom's house, there have been a couple of times that it always feels like someone's watching me. And I do go there sometimes to take care of her dogs. So I asked her one day, well, more like told her, "Your house feels a little creepy." And then she says, "Did you go by the stairs?" And then she pulls out this picture and tells me this story. She was bringing her little sister to a dance and her sister was dressed up so cute, so she really wanted to take a picture of her sister. So she's snapping a photo, but then her little sister ran up the stairs as the picture is being taken. So she went to go delete the photo, but then she saw something else in the photo coming down the stairs.

• 47:06Corinne Vien?

  You can see the sister's foot going up the stairs and then almost looks like a vampire-like thing coming down.

• 47:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my god. Wait, where's the little girl's foot? I do not see that.

• 47:18Corinne Vien?

  I don't even know.

• 47:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my gosh. What is it? Holding in its hand?

• 47:21Corinne Vien?

  I, I don't know. The little girl's ponytail. I don't know.

• 47:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It looks like it's holding like a letter or a book.

• 47:28Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, there's something white, like a sheet of paper or something.

• 47:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also, its foot looks backwards.

• 47:32Corinne Vien?

  Also, it's a little bit handsome.

• 47:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, if you're into like dead pale vampires. But you can see the full hand. It looks like he has like a satchel, like a little like cross body bag on.

• 47:43Corinne Vien?

  I mean, like this, yeah, it's very creepy. This guy also could have been cast in Wuthering Heights.

• 47:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For sure, or Dracula.

• 47:50Corinne Vien?

  But like the feet, the legs look like they're back. Did you say that?

• 47:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 47:54Corinne Vien?

  They look like they're back. I can't even comprehend what you're saying because it's like, this photo is so wild.

• 47:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In shock by it.

• 47:59Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 48:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoa.

• 48:01Corinne Vien?

  And it kind of almost looks like he is noticing her. Like if you can try to make out where the people's are, it's almost like he's starting to look up. And like notice the camera as he comes around the corner.

• 48:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, see, I was gonna say it looks like he's just like reading a book or like whatever is in his hand and not paying attention at all.

• 48:17Corinne Vien?

  Oh, interesting.

• 48:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I guess that's what's hard about it.

• 48:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 48:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can't see.

• 48:21Corinne Vien?

  Like you can make out the eyebrow shape. Like it's obviously, it's an older photo, so there's some grain to it, but like you can still make out a lot of the features.

• 48:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is wild. You guys have some gnarly pictures.

• 48:35Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 48:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And evidence. What the heck? It's creepy, but I love it.

• 48:41Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, when I first looked at this, I feel like when I looked from far away, I was like, what the fuck? This is gross. I don't even want to look at it. Then the more I zoomed in, the more I was like, hmm.

• 48:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Handsome.

• 48:49Corinne Vien?

  I don't know.

• 48:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is the, yeah, maybe like this is the type of ghost that you have a ghost romance with.

• 48:55Corinne Vien?

  Maybe this is a handsome ghost.

• 48:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe me invite you into.

• 48:59Corinne Vien?

  To brood and read and.

• 49:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My kinda ghost.

• 49:03Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 49:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 49:05Corinne Vien?

  Creepy creepy.

• 49:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We will post the photos and as much of the evidence as possible on our social media. Um, and then the rest of it is also available in the YouTube video for you to see and watch, but damn. These are my favorite types of episodes because like, how does someone see that and not? Like, how do you deny that? Like all, all of these photos have been so, because sometimes we'll get photos and like, we can't see what people are seeing, but then like, we post them and other people can see it.

• 49:34Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 49:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But these I feel like are undeniable.

• 49:39Corinne Vien?

  I mean.

• 49:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're speechless.

• 49:40Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 49:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cat caught your tongue.

• 49:41Corinne Vien?

  Like, I feel like the only way someone could say something is like, oh, well, there must have been someone in the house and you just don't remember, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, well, no, that's not, that's what.

• 49:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, shut up.

• 49:50Corinne Vien?

  Shut up.

• 49:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Get out of here.

• 49:51Corinne Vien?

  You want to believe.

• 49:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're skeptic, butt head.

• 49:54Corinne Vien?

  You're scared of the handsome vampire that lives in your stairs.

• 49:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kiss him already.

• 49:59Corinne Vien?

  Just kiss, just kiss.

• 50:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow. Um, I love all of you a little extra right now because of all of these pieces of evidence.

• 50:09Corinne Vien?

  Delivered.

• 50:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Delivered. If you are holding on to something like this, any type of evidence, photo, video.

• 50:16Corinne Vien?

  Time to let it go.

• 50:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Time to share it.

• 50:18Corinne Vien?

  Release it.

• 50:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Time to send it to your besties.

• 50:21Corinne Vien?

  Eno world.

• 50:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Time to send it to us at [email protected]. Send us all of your paranormal encounters. We, we truly want all of them and everything. We want your souls.

• 50:33Corinne Vien?

  Don't make us beg.

• 50:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I will beg.

• 50:34Corinne Vien?

  We have.

• 50:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We are begging.

• 50:35Corinne Vien?

  We've met in person too. They tell us something, we're like, come on.

• 50:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But because that's the craziest thing is anytime we see or meet someone in person, they're like, oh my God, I have to tell you my paranormal story.

• 50:44Corinne Vien?

  Everyone has a story.

• 50:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I, my first question is, have you emailed this? And I would say 80% of the time, the answer is no, not yet.

• 50:51Corinne Vien?

  Which like, I get it. I don't complete most of my tasks either.

• 50:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah.

• 50:55Corinne Vien?

  But like.

• 50:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My to do, my personal to do list has been climbing and growing for the last eight years.

• 51:02Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Oh, man.

• 51:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's wild.

• 51:05Corinne Vien?

  We should take advice from the coffee container, like to go container that is in the corner.

• 51:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's it say?

• 51:10Corinne Vien?

  It says, live slow.

• 51:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would love to.

• 51:12Corinne Vien?

  Let's delete our tasks.

• 51:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Delete all of your other tasks, except for sending us your encounters.

• 51:18Corinne Vien?

  Set the priorities. We delete our tasks, but you guys still have homework.

• 51:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, exactly. And the homework we do then is reading it back to you for everyone else to enjoy and share. But yeah, we love you all. Thank you so much for being here. We have so many bonuses and perks over on Patreon, so be sure to join us over there, check it out. We do have like the subscriptions that you can join on Apple Plus and YouTube. Like you get episodes one week early, but there's so much more. On Patreon for probably the same price, so.

• 51:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, so if you see both of those, don't get overly confused.

• 51:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah. If you get Patreon, you get everything that you could get on all the other things.

• 51:56Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 51:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. You spend your money however you like.

• 52:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank you for joining us. We love you.

• 52:02Corinne Vien?

  Shout out to Jamie Ryan. We love her too. And we will see you on the other side.

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