Schumer Wants Your Money, Teslas Keep Blowing Up, Chinese Labor & JFK Files | The Tom Bilyeu Show

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• 1:08Speaker 01

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• 1:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Revolutionary breakthrough in cancer treatments turns tumors into pork. You heard that correct. The JFK files drop and the CIA headquarters go on lockdown. CBDCs are coming to Europe in 2025. Get out while you can. Senator Schumer mocks people for wanting to keep their money. Tim Walz celebrates Americans losing their retirement funds. Elon brings the astronauts back as Tesla owners are doxxed and threatened, and another Tesla dealership is firebombed. Bology says tariffs won't work because China is skilled labor, not cheap labor. China drops a new humanoid robot that costs just over five grand. Google launches a satellite to detect wildfires and David Freberg offers an American dream tied to stocks instead of houses.

• 2:21Tom Bilyeu?

  Drew, welcome to the simulation. This timeline is wild.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  It just keeps getting better and better, you know?

• 2:27Tom Bilyeu?

  The fact that you can now turn your tumors into pork. Once you understand it, how it works, the Jews and Muslims got something right about pork man. Your body goes ham when you turn those, oh, I didn't even mean that like that, but the body goes ham when you turn a tumor into ham.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  You do it without even knowing it. You do it without even knowing it. All right, jump right to it. We got to talk about the elephant in the room. The JFK files were released and shortly this morning, the CIA headquarters was attacked. So this is a developing story. We don't have all the, quite all the information just yet.

• 3:00Tom Bilyeu?

  They're related, but the headline goes gunman opens fire outside of CIA headquarters in Virginia. Heavy police deployed. I would be so surprised if these have anything to do with each other. This feels like somebody unhinged, but is it possible that in their unhinged mind that the CIA is leaking secrets? Or are they mad because they think that the documents prove that the CIA was in on it? They're trying to take them out. I don't know. This is pure speculation at this point, but honestly, the files so far seem to be a nothing burger. Now there's 80,000 pages, so it is entirely possible that as the internet sleuths do what internet sleuths do, that we will find that there really are a bunch of dots that you can connect that show something. But so far, it's not been very interesting.

• 3:45Tom Bilyeu?

  Even AI reading everything that everybody's saying on X is like, meh. Like this isn't, there's really not anything new. So we'll see what comes of it.

• 3:54Speaker 02

  I think everybody has been focused on this Gary Underhill story though. And this is the one file that has somewhat of a, I wouldn't even call it a smoking gun, like a breadcrumb that's loosely tied to a highway that might lead to something.

• 4:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, this is not Gary Underhill though, unless I'm crazy.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, Gary Underhill is the person that, it's him. Yeah. The subject is John. Yeah. So the day after the assassination, Gary Underhill left Washington in a hurry. Late in the evening, he showed up at the home of friends in New Jersey. He was very agitated. A small clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination, he confided. And he was afraid for his life and probably would have to leave the country. Less than six months later, Underhill was found shot to death in his Washington apartment. The coroner ruled it suicide. So while yes, the CIA isn't the smoking gun, seeing this happen and people going viral with this on X, and then the gunman going outside the CIA headquarters, shooting up in the air, almost like a I'm coming for you type thing. I do have my tinfoil hat on.

• 4:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, this is hard tinfoil hat. I'll be interested to see. My whole thing with this is something is sus. When Trump first got into office, as he related, somebody came to him and I don't remember who, but they said, listen, if you know what I know about what's in those files, you wouldn't want to release it either. And so they ended up not releasing it. And the fact that you can release it to the public and look, limited amount of time, but people have not found anything in it yet. I'm like, okay, was that guy BSing? And he just was being lazy and didn't know it was in the files. And so there's just this perpetual motion inside the government to want to hide, hide, hide. Or have they pulled things out of the documentation? And so they know the whatever, the smoking gun, they went in, they deleted the life out of it.

• 5:34Tom Bilyeu?

  There were a lot of rumors going around that when Cash Patel got appointed, that people were just burning and deleting things as fast as they could. So it's possible that whatever there was in there that was damning enough that that guy went to Trump and said, if you knew what I knew, you wouldn't release these. That's just been pulled out, but that is with tin hat firmly in place.

• 5:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, we'll keep going through it. There's a whole lot of files, so I'm sure this story is going to keep developing as time goes on.

• 5:59Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, no doubt.

• 5:59Speaker 02

  Um, one good bright spot of news, you know, sometimes the news has good, good news. The stuck astronauts, Sunni William and Butch Wilmore, returned to earth after nine months in space, after SpaceX splashed down in Cape Canaveral, Florida.

• 6:13Tom Bilyeu?

  This is. Incredible in two lanes. Incredible. Number one, that you could reach out to a guy and be like, "Hey, we've got some astronauts stranded in outer space." And he's like, "Say less fam, I got you." And launches a rocket that docks with, and this footage I have seen, it looks so fake. I get why people are like, "There's no way this is real." This is real. And the fact that we were able to do that with a private company is absolutely incredible. Now Elon's gone way out of his way to say that this was a SpaceX NASA collaboration. So a word, full credit, whatever NASA's role was in this, I love it the most.

• 6:59Tom Bilyeu?

  But it really is incredible that we were able to do this. Now, it's incredible in the other sense of lacking credibility that Biden, or the Biden administration, maybe is a better way to say it, was so focused on the politics of not wanting a guy who supports Trump to grab these people, that it ended up stranding them for months and months in space.

• 7:26Tom Bilyeu?

  That is really grotesque. Now, that's in keeping with what I know about man is political animal. So every politician is going to do this, but given that this one was a Biden administration play, point fingers where fingers are due. That's nasty. I hate everything about that. They were supposed to be out there for six days. That trip turned into nine months. That's insane. Being in space that long is not good for you. So first of all, you have an increased exposure to radiation. Second, there's all kinds of weird things that are happening to your body. The way that the fluids like are forced out of the eye or drift out of the eye. Like there's weird things that can happen there. Your spine begins to expand because there's no gravitational force on you. When you come back to Earth, that can create a problem. You start losing bone density.

• 8:11Tom Bilyeu?

  So it isn't like just an inconvenience to these people. It is potential that this will have long-term consequences. It's my understanding that you don't want to leave people in outer space for, I think, three months is like the sweet spot. So you start going north of three months. And it starts being problematic. So again, for this to be a political play is super lame. Both sides do super lame things. So I don't want this to be a beat up on one side versus the other. What I would love to see is for America to rally together and say, this is dumb. We don't want to see things like that be turned into politics. So that means that when it's your team, you have to be the one to pump the brakes. So if you're on team Trump, pump the brakes when he's doing dumb shit. If you're on the left, you gotta

• 8:51Tom Bilyeu?

  pump the brakes when your side is doing the dumb shit. Like, we really, really, as a nation, I forget who said this, make America moral again. I love that. So yeah, I would love to see that. Doing things like this for political points is super lame.

• 9:07Speaker 02

  Super lame. In other Elon news, Tim Walz wanted to dunk on Tesla stock. He was speaking to a crowd yesterday and he shared his idea of a pick-me-up.

• 9:16Speaker 03

  Saying on my phone, I know some of you know this on the iPhone, they've got that little stock app. I added Tesla to it to give me a little boost during the day.

• 9:25Speaker 03

  225 and dropping.

• 9:27Tom Bilyeu?

  It is my understanding that Tim Walz actually bragged about not owning any stocks. This is somebody who does not understand how money works, and this really grosses me out. This is somebody who hates Elon Musk and his politics so badly that he would rather see him lose phantom net worth, because keep in mind, this is just Elon is wealthy because he owns stocks that the world says are valuable. But that is a world who has already bought those stocks, and they're just saying if he were to sell the remaining stocks that he has at the price that people are willing to pay right now, then he would get rich. It's all make-believe. But the thing that's real are average Americans that are holding those stocks as a part of their retirement fund. So this is Tim Walz saying, I don't

• 10:11Tom Bilyeu?

  care about grandma. I don't care that her retirement fund is going down. I hate Elon so much that it actually puts me in a good mood to see grandma's net worth going down, because it also damages the theoretical wealth of a very wealthy person. That is so grotesque. Now, I can say, okay, he just doesn't understand the way that all of this works, and so he's Not thinking about the fact that is a baseball bat to grandma far more than it's a baseball bat to Elon Musk. Elon Musk is going to be just fine. Grandma is not. So when you have a very small number of stocks making up the vast majority of the gains in the stock market. And Tesla is one of the biggest success stories of the last 25 years.

• 10:56Tom Bilyeu?

  And not understanding who is actually benefiting from that. It is a whole lot of average Americans who we finally got to invest money in the stock market through their retirement accounts and investment portfolios that are managed by other people. These are not people who are saying, I support Elon Musk and his politics. These are just people who are like, hey, because you print money, I have no option but to own assets. Otherwise, my savings will get absolutely eroded. And he is celebrating and a whole audience is cheering for that reality. That kind of financial illiteracy at the level that he's at is unacceptable.

• 11:34Speaker 02

  It's nasty because I can understand if it was just jokes, but it's now starting to creep into actual results. And that takes us to the Doge Q website that was actually.

• 11:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Doge Quest, I think?

• 11:45Speaker 02

  Doge Q dot S T was literally listing supercharger locations, tested dealerships. And the cursor, if you would scroll through, it actually had a Molotov cocktail. And that led to, again, these might be completely unrelated incidents, but then now we're seeing people set fire to a Las Vegas dealership. So we're seeing this political jargon and we don't like this guy, let's dunk on him, turning into actual acts of terror. Like this is scary. It shouldn't be okay for average citizens to go around and start bombing Tesla dealerships or Ford dealerships or whoever pickup trucks. Like nobody should be bombing dealerships. Like that shouldn't be the end goal.

• 12:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Agreed. This is people who do not understand that when you are doxing and terrorizing the average American who owns a Tesla because it's an exceptional car, that people were pressing Americans to go green, to get rid of their gas guzzling, traditional engine cars and to get something that was. More green and better for the planet. And so a whole bunch of people did it. And now those same people are put on a list and told, if you don't sell your Tesla, then you're going to be doxxed. And to your point, the curse of being a Molotov cocktail, obviously encouraging people to commit acts of violence, which they are actually doing. So this is,

• 13:06Tom Bilyeu?

  this is a grotesque attempt to make a political statement, which I'm all for in a nonviolent manner. When you're taking it out on the people that you want to see them change their behavior. So if you don't like what Elon Musk is doing with Doge, I love that. I want you to speak up and I want you to give people what you believe to be the right angle to look at this, the right way that we should be looking at government spending and whatever you believe to be true. I'm all for that. Even if you just are trying to propagandize people and sway them, freedom of speech says that you have every right to do that. I'm all for that. What I am wildly against is conflating an average American. Again, it could be just some random guy, housewife, mom, dad, whatever,

• 13:51Tom Bilyeu?

  in middle America who's like, I really want to do my part to make sure that my kids have a better environment to deal with in the future. And so I got a Tesla to support it and I love the car and think it's really cool technology. And now people are defacing that car, which does not hurt Elon Musk. It hurts that person who now has to either deal with insurance or drive around with a car that's been, you know, defaced in some way. It is an illogical attack vector that is not going to have the outcome that people want it to have. So when I see people at the highest level, who are supposed to be our leaders, championing this kind of thing, it is, it is really distressing, man. It's stupid, it's ill-informed, and it's going to have.

• 14:37Tom Bilyeu?

  A different outcome than they were expecting.

• 14:40Speaker 02

  I'm starting to see kind of common threads pulled between these first three stories where something happens in the government, whether it's a file that is leaked, whether it's political prisoners, something happens. And then now the public reacts, like the little man ends up getting the grunt, like ends up getting hurt, you know, like, and JFK files were released. This one person really thought he was doing his thing and trying to help it. He's going to be in jail for the rest of his life attacking a government facility. You have astronauts who are just in space doing what they dreamed of when they were kids. And now because of a political election, they're in space six months longer than they needed to be. You have somebody who's driving a Tesla, probably got two kids in the back, and now they come back to the Tesla and it's keyed and there's a flat tire. And it's like, I didn't even vote for Trump. Why am I getting?

• 15:25Speaker 02

  It seems that we're misdirecting the anger. It's like weird.

• 15:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Aggressively, this is the problem with protesting. When protesting is done right, you can actually move the government in the direction that you want them to go. If people are activists, that's great. People really should fight for the things that they believe in, but you have to think about the method in which you want to fight. And we have people resorting to violence so early, and you resort to violence when words no longer have the impact that you want them to have. That is somebody who is saying, I give up. I'm not able to be persuasive. I'm not able to show people that my way of viewing things is the right way. And I am so blinded by my own sense of certainty, my own emotions, that I'm now going to act out in a way that is violent, that is destructive.

• 16:12Tom Bilyeu?

  And like Nelson Mandela says, I always keep violence in my back pocket as an option. It is a card, and I get why we have the Second Amendment. I get why we all reserve the right to at a certain point, saying armed resistance is the only thing that's remaining. But the fact that people are going to armed resistance this early is insane to me. And we are going to see things continue to escalate out of control until the point where this becomes, it's already a cold civil war between the left and the right. It will become a hot civil war. You already have people as an act of political defiance. Blowing things up, okay? I don't know how much hotter. I mean, the only way to escalate that even further will be to kill a Tesla owner. But at the rate that we are going, doxing people and all of that,

• 16:57Tom Bilyeu?

  you get there way faster than you expect. Here is where people need to understand. You do not act out in a vacuum. People will respond. This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life. If you think, dear left, that you can go as crazy as you want, that you can blow shit up and people on the right aren't gonna clap back, they will clap back with violence. Violence begets violence. If your argument is so trash that you cannot talk the other side into doing what is actually good for them, you have a terrible argument and you need to ask yourself, am I actually right? Am I actually leading the country in the direction that we want to go? And the reality is, the left was not leading the country in the direction that the country wanted to go, and so they voted.

• 17:41Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, I am not saying that Trump is doing all the right things. I don't know yet. I don't know if all he's doing is interjecting chaos. That may be the final analysis. And we may have to get him out of office just as speedily as we got Biden out of office. It is entirely possible. But right now, to think, oh, I can act violently, stop using argumentation as the path forward, to think that that will not come back to haunt you is moronic. As a nation, we must find a path to understanding the other side, whatever side you're on, has value. I need to listen to why these people believe the things that they believe, and I need to find a path that is going to be provably good for both of us. This is not the way. Full stop. If so, facto. I love that.

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• 20:47Speaker 02

  All right, now in world affairs news, we want to go behind the headlines. A lot of times people say, oh, this happened. For example, a word like tariff and then we say 20% tariffs and we leave it. We don't actually go one level deeper. So there's some things that have been popping off lately that I want to talk about. We could react to the clip, but then actually think about the things underlying just the clip. So first off, Senator Schumer was on The View yesterday and he was talking about his take on income inequality and how he feels that the rich and the billionaire class respond when the government wants to intervene.

• 21:15Speaker 04

  You know what their attitude is? I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me? I don't want to pay taxes. Or I built my company with my bare hands. How dare your government tell me how I should treat my customers? My, um, the land and order, water that I own, uh, or my employees. They hate government. Governments are barrier to people. The, the barrier to stop them from doing things. They want to destroy it. We are not letting them do it and we're united.

• 21:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Some people need to be chased by a lion. The, the reality is when you are living in a world where your survival depends on getting the best and the brightest to do, uh, an incredible thing, well, shorthanded to innovate. When you need your best and the brightest to innovate or you die, there is a lot of clarity about what you need to do with the best and the brightest among you. And one of those things is you need to reward them in whatever way your society rewards people. It tends to be status and whatever the money is of that day. We are in a world now though, where things are going so well that people are confused about how we're at the point where some people can coast.

• 22:24Tom Bilyeu?

  And so if you think of the right analogy as being a bike on flat land where people pedaled like absolute maniacs to build all of this momentum, to work really hard, to build a societal structure. I'm, I am not denying this is within a framework of we have built a societal structure. We have a country that is stable, that has rule of law, that has private ownership. And the reason we have private ownership is so that the best and the brightest can be rewarded for pedaling that bike like crazy. Now, not everybody in the country can pedal the bike at the same rate. Not everybody has as long of legs. Not everybody has as strong of legs. But also not everybody is recognizing that if you pedal and pedal hard, that your legs will get stronger over time and you will get better at this.

• 23:10Tom Bilyeu?

  All we see is, oh, the bike is moving really fast. And so not everybody needs to pedal. So let's feel bad for the people with short legs, weak legs, and just say, hey, guys, it's cool. You can pick your legs up. And how dare those people with the long, strong legs who are Able to innovate and create all of this momentum. How dare they clap back and say that you have taken your feet off the pedal? How dare they demand that you pedal as hard as they pedal? Not realizing that you will, because you're on flat land, you are going to run out of that momentum and the bike will die. And at that point, now everybody is left fighting for table scraps. But because people pedaled so hard and got the bike moving, they are now confused about the reality. And there is a quote, I don't know who said it.

• 23:54Tom Bilyeu?

  I've looked this up six ways a Sunday. I cannot figure out who said this. But Marxists believe that redistribution of wealth is the miracle. Failing to understand the real miracle is production. The real miracle in the analogy of the bike is the people who can pedal better, faster, stronger than the next person. Not the redistribution of the fact that now some people can coast. And once you disincentivize the people who can pedal well, your society will fall.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  I understand that people who can pedal faster should be rewarded than the people who chose not to pedal. For whatever reason it may be that they can't pedal as fast as others. But what do you say to the people that do think that if, since you're so good at pedaling and your feet are so strong, it should be okay that, you know, one or two people lift it up? You know, if the, if the rich people just gave a little bit more in taxes, that's going to help everybody out. What do you say to the people that think that just a little bit of socialism or striving away from capitalism would be the solution? And that's the secret, the silver bullet that we're avoiding?

• 24:55Tom Bilyeu?

  Those people are right. A little bit of regulation goes a long way. Creating a society where we want to look out for the weak among us goes a long way. I do not want to go back to Sparta, where babies that are born infirm are put up on a hilltop and left to be eaten by animals. I don't want that. What I'm saying is you have to understand what the miracle is. The miracle is that people can pedal hard enough that they can get an entire society moving on flat land to the point where there is momentum. That's the miracle. And as long as we all go, okay, I want there to be people who are looking out for the people that can't pedal. I want There to be a sense of we're not just going to throw anybody who can't pedal as well as the next

• 25:40Tom Bilyeu?

  person off the bike and fuck them, whatever happens, happens. I don't want to live in that world. It is the delusion becomes dismantling of the entire society. When you think that the ability to take from the people that can do well and spread it across everybody, no matter how much it disincentivizes those people, when you think that is the moral high ground, when you think that is the miracle, you will break society. Now, I'm always curious with people who take that stance that say they fight for social democracy, which I think if you understand it as socialized democracy, you will probably get closer to the truth. And they're going to

• 26:21Tom Bilyeu?

  say something like, you really have to make sure that you're looking out for the little guy. You've got to make sure that those people are taken care of because it is absolutely immoral to let these people that are making money outpace people so tremendously. So I don't care how much they whine and complain. This goes back to Schumer's quote, I don't care. That's grotesque for them to want to reap the benefits of their setup. You've got to be able to spread this across everybody. They don't understand that whenever this is tested, you end up getting on this accelerating slope because the people who are pedaling are going to complain. It's the architecture of the human mind. They're going to say, wait a second, that's not fair. Why are

• 27:05Tom Bilyeu?

  you taking from me and giving to everybody else? Which again, you do want to do a little bit. You do want to put a framework in place where the strong cannot group up and make sure that all the week get kicked off the bike. However, as you begin going down that path, they start complaining and you say, Drew, listen, we're going to have to kill that one guy. Let's just call him Elon. He's way too successful. He's made way too much money. It's just too far. And so given that he's complaining and he won't be compliant, let's just kill him. And then you get somebody like me who goes, well, hold on a second. That's horrible. I hate that. And so then people are like, okay, hold on. I don't want to kill any more people than I have to, Drew.

• 27:47Tom Bilyeu?

  But now Tom is creating a problem for me, and so I'm gonna have to kill him as well. If you think that I'm being facetious, that I'm exaggerating, that this is hyperbole, read about Stalin's Russia and Mao's China. In Mao's China, you had people going, hey, wait a second. Since you've socialized everything, and they were just saying this out loud. We're gonna first go to socialism, socialism will lead to communism, communism is a utopia. That has not become like a distortion of what they said. That's actually what they were saying. And so people were raising their hand going, uh, guys, actually, since you've socialized all this, the crops are yielding less, and then they beat those people to death. Not figuratively, they actually beat them to death, they killed them.

• 28:31Tom Bilyeu?

  And then the next person would be like, guys, wait, hold on, people are now starving to death. And it's like, oh, God, that's really inconvenient. So we're gonna go need to kill that guy who's complaining. And so now, all the people that point out, you don't actually want to plant crops like that. We need to debate how we're gonna do this stuff, because this isn't working. When you kill all of those people, then everyone else starves to death. Forty-five million people in like three years starved to death in China. From like 1958 to like 1961, uh, forty-five million people starved to death. Because the people who complained, for whatever reason you want to say they complained, they were too greedy, they were selfish, whatever, but they pointed out, this doesn't work.

• 29:16Tom Bilyeu?

  They got killed, and then everybody else starves to death. Tom, that's just China, oh, bad ruler. Okay, how'd it work out in Stalin's Russia? Exactly the same. This is where the idea of the kulaks comes from. You have these farmers, the elons of farming, and they have more cows, more crops. So obviously, that's gotta be corruption, that's not fair. And so we're gonna go take from those guys and give to everybody else. Now the kulaks are A, either chased out, or killed, or so terrified that they're like, I don't want to succeed. Guess what happens, Drew? Everyone starves to death. Literally, not figuratively, literally, millions of people starve to death. And if you really want to freak yourself out, what ends up happening to a population that's starving?

• 30:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Some percentage of them eat their own children. Again, not figuratively, literally. And so you've got people digging up corpses and eating the corpses. You've got people selling human flesh. People do not starve to death quietly. And I don't know how many times this has to play out before people go, oh, there's a thing in the architecture of the human mind. That's what we're up against. Let me give you another example. There was a test done by, I believe it was a college professor, said, uh, all your, your grades are going to be socialized. So whatever the average grade is, that's what everybody gets. And very rapidly, everyone began getting Fs. Because the people that were pulling the upper end were like, well, this is stupid. I'm just going to get drug to the middle. There's no way for me to reap the benefits of my own fruit.

• 30:45Tom Bilyeu?

  And so I'm going to stop peddling as hard. And then other people were like, oh, well, I'm just going to take advantage of the people that are better at peddling than me. But those people are starting to give up. And so now they're just slide, slide, slide, slide, slide, until it feels completely hopeless and everybody's getting an F. It, it, you are up against the way the human mind works. You are never going to win with socialism. Now democratic socialism, if you can get that just right, maybe. But you need look no farther than Europe to realize compared to the US, they get their asses handed to them at the level of innovation.

• 31:20Speaker 02

  After they eat babies, I feel like I don't have a response to that. So I'm just going to move on in that place. All right, let's go to the next thing that freaks people out. CBDCs and, uh, the European Central Bank President Christine Lagarde talked about implementing this as soon as October of 2025.

• 31:39Tom Bilyeu?

  This year, this is months.

• 31:41Speaker 05

  With all the stakeholders, meaning European Parliament, meaning European Council, meaning European Commission, so that we can eventually, you know, not put to bed, but put, uh, to reality this digital euro. The deadline for us is going to be October of 25, and we are getting ready for that deadline. But we will not be able to move unless the other parties, the stakeholders, as I call them, uh, Commission, Council and Parliament, actually complete the legislative process without which we will not be able to move. And I think it is critically important. And it seems to diagnostic others skeptics, it seems to be more relevant and more of an imperative now than ever before, both on the wholesale and on the retail level, both.

• 32:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Why? She never says why. Here's what's hiding in CBDCs. To anybody that can hear my voice right now, please understand how dangerous this is. A CBDC gives the government complete control of your money. Now, cryptocurrency and CBDCs sound like the same phenomenon. They are exactly opposite responses to the digitization of money. CBDCs give the government an ability to control every dime. If I go to the bank right now and I say, "I would like to withdraw $10,000", they will ask me why. Drew, that's none of their business.

• 33:05Tom Bilyeu?

  It is my money. They're getting confused. They think my money is their money, and it is not. With a CBDC, you will get things like what happened in Canada with the trucker protest on steroids. Because now you don't have to de-bank anybody. You just freeze their assets. They can't do anything. Let's also say that the government doesn't like what you're spending your money on. I don't like that you're buying Cheetos. And so I want you to buy healthy food. And so now I'm going to stop you from being able to spend money on things that we don't like. This is the only reason to go to a CBDC.

• 33:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Otherwise, you would take the other end of the spectrum, which is crypto, and saying, "Oh, digital money's amazing because now it moves around effortlessly, 24/7/365. You have complete and total control of your money. Can't do illegal things." That's still illegal. We already have laws against that. Just like I can spend cash on whatever I want, which is why the government has instituted policies where they're forcing banks to ask me what I plan to do with that money.

• 34:16Tom Bilyeu?

  But the reality is, if you don't want me to buy drugs, you're gonna have to police it at the level of the drugs. Because it's my money. That's not the attack vector that anybody, anywhere on planet Earth, should stand for. The government works for you. You do not work for the government. The government is there to make your life better. And when you give a small number of people the ability to say, I like or don't like the way you think or act, and I'm going to respond by controlling your money, you are now, you're letting your own government practice economic warfare on you in the way that the US government does on Russia. Here is what's happening behind the scenes. The governments go, ooh, this economic warfare stuff works, and it works really well. Let's use it to control our own people.

• 35:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Highest predictive validity for looking at the government is to understand that they want to achieve and maintain power. Period. End of story. That is that thing as an organism. And when you give them control of the flow of your money, you are giving them control over your entire life.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  Okay, I, I understand. I feel like you gave me the, the bookend of it, and you gave me the setup of it. Is there any nuance in the middle that would say that a CBDC can potentially help? Because the government can do direct deposit, or like auto tax returns? I'm trying to think of, there has to be some other way of CBDCs being positive.

• 35:42Tom Bilyeu?

  It's called digital currencies, just not central bank digital currencies. So, right now, you have things like Tether. There's a bunch of stable coins. Stable coins, yay! We want America to create an environment where there are stable coins that are backed with one-to-one, let's even say, US Treasuries. So that you say, alright, this, you gave this, um, stable coin, a thousand dollars, whatever. And you know that that thousand dollars, so that you can now send transactions on V M O, wherever the hell you want, um, frictionless. You want to know that they're never going to do anything with that money that has any real risk whatsoever.

• 36:26Tom Bilyeu?

  So they're going to hold a one to one thousand dollars in this case in US Treasuries. And while nothing is guaranteed because the US could default, it is called the risk free rate of return to own a treasury for a reason. So it's as close to risk free as you're going to get. So there's a one to one storage of that, which you don't get in a bank, by the way.

• 36:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 36:47Tom Bilyeu?

  So a, in that sense, a stablecoin is more powerful from a risk mitigation standpoint than a bank. So now you have a one to one US Treasury for the dollars that you gave them, and now you can send the stuff all over the place. The reason the US government doesn't like that is they can't control it. This, this is a game of power and control. Period. Full stop. End of story. Otherwise, they would just be like, hey, the regulation is this, your stablecoin must be backed by a US Treasury. That's fantastic for the US dollar supremacy. So even if globally, you're like, we can't give up the power of the US dollar. Cool, I'm here for that as an American. I love it. But if you weren't trying to control me and the things that I buy, you would just be

• 37:30Tom Bilyeu?

  like, do stablecoins with the regulation that is backed by US Treasuries. But they're not saying that. This is, I mean, this is Europe. In, in America's defense, I don't think Trump is going to let a CBDC go forward. But in Europe, they're saying, oh my God, Drew, this is, this is so important. It's absolutely imperative. I'm not going to give you a reason why, but this is imperative that we be able to, everybody's going to be better off. Uh, no, they are not. They will use this for control. This will be abused. Look at what Canada did to the truckers. It's, it is egregious. They were freezing the funds of people who donated to the truckers. They weren't protesting. They were just donating to the truckers.

• 38:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, that definitely seems like a slippery slope.

• 38:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, if they can already do stuff like that, imagine when they literally control all the dollars. That's nuts because the government, to get back to the very specific question you asked, the government could use a stablecoin to make a direct deposit into your account. Easy peasy.

• 38:31Speaker 02

  So then it has to be that other layer of control.

• 38:33Tom Bilyeu?

  It's just control, period.

• 38:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Quick break, but don't go anywhere. There's more to come after this short break from our sponsors.

• 38:43Tom Bilyeu?

  All right, we're back. Let's get into it.

• 38:46Speaker 02

  As we continue traveling around the world, some breakthrough news in China. A new cancer therapy disguises tumors as pork to trigger immune attacks. 90% effective. Chinese researchers turned the immune response to organ transplant rejection to cure cancer with a 90% success rate. Called a tumor to pork strategy, a new study published in Cell earlier this year demonstrates immense success in engineering a virus that tricked the human body into believing that cancer cells were pig tissue, thereby triggering a hyperacute inflammatory response. The virus began attacking the tumor with a staggering 90% success rate to the point of curing a patient with advanced cervical cancer.

• 39:25Tom Bilyeu?

  This is one of the most thrilling things I've heard in a long time. There's something about this moment. I don't know that these guys have used AI, so I can't even point and say like, oh my God, this is an AI breakthrough. But this is one of the many, many, many reasons that I say the thing you want to focus on is innovation. I will remind everybody, how did China unlock this big innovation? All of these things is they started leaning on capitalism. They moved away from the very thing that's supposed to usher in utopia.

• 39:58Tom Bilyeu?

  This is incredible. I don't know what's going on right now, but so many things are converging and making me extremely excited about what's happening.

• 40:08Tom Bilyeu?

  Understanding the mechanism of how this works. So the way that a tumor cell works is it disguises itself and says to the immune system, everything is fine here. There's no problem. But what's really happening is this is a cell that is never going to stop dividing. Normally, the immune system recognizes that and kills it. All of us have cancer cells floating in our body. The immune system recognizes them and stops them. When a cancer cell becomes problematic is when it can disguise itself from the immune system to say, all good, no worries. And so they're using this as a method to make this cell basically scream out and say, I'm a foreign invader. And so the pork thing is a bit of a red herring. It doesn't matter that it's pork. It's just, we know a lot about pork.

• 40:53Tom Bilyeu?

  It's been well studied in terms of we looked at using pig tissue for organ transplants and things like that. And we know how the body responds. So given that we have studied this a lot, we know how the immune system responds specifically to pig tissue. That's why they used it. And the fact that you can mark a tumor cell to say, I'm a foreign invader is unbelievable. So the thing that I don't know enough about, and of course, all of these things, they're never as good as you want them to be. So I'm sure over time, we will find that there are real limitations to this, or there is some secondary problem with the inflammatory response.

• 41:36Tom Bilyeu?

  An obvious one would be cytokine storms. So the thing that was actually killing people in COVID was cytokine storms as the body tried to respond to the virus. So you can actually respond so aggressively that the immune system kills itself, kills the host in this case, us. So it's possible that we see, oh, actually, like, once you go wide, there's a huge number of people that have a cytokine storm and it kills them. So we'll see. There's, there's going to be parameters here, almost certainly. But man, what an incredible breakthrough to see them be able to identify that tissue, tag it, and then the immune system leveraging a virus in a way that I don't fully understand. Cause I think it's technically the virus that's going in and attacking. The cancer cell. It's not the immune system itself.

• 42:21Tom Bilyeu?

  So there's complexities here that I don't fully have my head wrapped around yet, but this is incredibly promising.

• 42:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's something that is just done without Google scientists, for example, the AI model that specifically tackles science problems, without things like that being at a hundred percent. You can only imagine, yeah, put those two things together, adding quantum computing, who knows? We can probably have this thing wrapped up in 10, 15 years. But this specific treatment is entering phase two and phase three clinical trials. So we evaluate potential and safety risk and things like that. So great initial clinical lab response. Now we actually have to actually do the clinical trials in people.

• 42:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, this is one of the things that makes me very sad that we are in a cold war with China and that this is only going to accelerate. When you get global cooperation, which thankfully the scientific community tends to really try to find ways to help each other out regardless. But this is out of China, man. God bless them. I'm even though I want America to win. If China's got something rad like this, I'm here for it. Clap, clap, clap, flowers at your feet.

• 43:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:21Tom Bilyeu?

  Very exciting.

• 43:21Speaker 02

  I'm glad you made that transition because a lot of times where we see China's rise in the economy, everybody thinks it's just cheap labor. Oh, it's just because they got T moon Alibaba and that's why China is accelerating. But Balaji put out a very interesting tweet with Tim Cook and I wanted to see his. He has a very interesting take of why China is so exceptional.

• 43:37Tom Bilyeu?

  So really fast, before you play that, let me give some further setup. So think about this in the frame of tariffs. So Balaji is saying, look, maybe if China were just cheap labor, that putting these tariffs and making those goods more expensive, that would solve the problem. But that isn't the problem. China has become very intelligent labor and that's what Tim Cook speaks to in this clip.

• 44:00Speaker 06

  There's a confusion about China and let me at least give you my opinion. The popular conception is that companies come to China because of low labor cost. I'm not sure what part of China they go to, but the truth is China stopped being the low labor cost country many years ago. The reason is because of the skill, the quantity of skill in one location and the type of skill it is. The products we do require really advanced tooling. And the the precision that you have to have in tooling and working with the materials that we do are state of the art. And the tooling skill is very deep here.

• 44:41Speaker 06

  You know, in in the US, you could have a meeting of tooling engineers and I'm not sure we could fill the room. In China, you could fill multiple football fields. It's that vocational vocational expertise is very deep.

• 44:56Speaker 02

  Somebody who wants to bring manufacturing back. How do you think we juxtapose those two things of it's not just cheap labor? We might have a education gap or a skill gap as well that we need to fill.

• 45:06Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't care if China is the world's smartest people and America is a nation of dummies. You cannot go to war with an adversary that controls your manufacturing. Full stop. People are not paying attention or they're not being sincere about where we are with China. We are in a position where your modern way of life, AI chip manufacturing is basically entirely out of Taiwan. China has made it abundantly clear that they plan to reunify with Taiwan at some point. Now you're putting yourself in the reverse position. Right now, we can choke China off from having access to advanced chips. You're putting yourself in a position which you already saw in COVID where China can choke you off from a lot of different goods.

• 45:52Tom Bilyeu?

  And we are saying, nah, well, during globalism, we, the period of globalism, we made China more powerful. That they became the skilled labor, not because they are smarter than us. They became the skilled labor because the whole world was pouring into them from a manufacturing standpoint. China relaxed their restrictions on people being able to get rich. People started innovating as a way to generate personal wealth. They made all these incredible innovations, trained the life out of their people. And now we're saying, well, we've lost that race and so we're not even going to compete. That is the most absurd reaction to this moment in history I've ever heard in my life. You've got to understand, you are a competitor with China. The age of like, everybody gets along globalism, first of all, was always a myth. China was using it as a way to get stronger.

• 46:36Tom Bilyeu?

  You have to understand their whole thing about the hundred years of humiliation. We're never gonna let it happen again. They see a world order dominated by China in the future. God bless them. I see a world in which America dominates the world order. So I understand. But you have to be realistic about the situation that you were in when you cannot manufacture. Part of the American ethos of who we are is predicated on the story that we told ourselves about World War II. That Japan dropped bombs on Pearl Harbor and then said, uh-oh, I think we may have awoken a sleeping giant. And then we out-manufactured everybody. And our ability to turn on that manufacturing machine and make it a military weapon was absolutely incredible. And obviously, we're not speaking German or Japanese because of that fact.

• 47:21Tom Bilyeu?

  We are no longer that America. We no longer have that ability. And I love Balaji to death. Balaji is brilliant. And thank God, I'm able to look at the world through his eyes. But the reality is Balaji doesn't live in America. And I don't know if he's intentionally blinding himself to this. I don't know. But the reality is, we must address the fact that we are in a cold war with China that is going to escalate, that there, hopefully, never, ever, ever do we get to a hot war, but it's certainly a possibility. And we must plan for that possibility now.

• 47:53Speaker 02

  So that's why you think Trump's motivation to bring tariffs, bring manufacturing back, it's to build our own, to build our own supply of goods and services so we don't need to rely on another country? Do you think it's more military and defense-based?

• 48:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Trump is a very complicated figure. And anytime anybody asks me to read the mind of Trump, I'll do it. But, oh, okay, Trump is complicated. I don't know that what Trump is doing is going to work. Balaji may be right about tariffs, that tariffs are just going to brutalize the economy. What I'm saying against Balaji's take on the tariffs is that you can't throw your hands up and say, well, China's already won the race. This is about them being far more advanced in their ability to manufacture. What I'm saying is, whether tariffs end up being the play or not, we must find a path to bringing some, not all, manufacturing back to the US. You want to friendshore or onshore the things that are critical.

• 48:53Tom Bilyeu?

  And you cannot, unfortunately, much to my dismay, you cannot look at China as a friendly place to leave these critical things.

• 49:04Speaker 02

  Long term, do you think that this is something that the tide is gonna turn? Cause I feel like in the 90s, everybody loved globalism. So do you think in a couple of years, we're gonna start to realize like, oh, wait, back to isolation? Like, we should be...

• 49:15Tom Bilyeu?

  100, we're already in an isolationist move. Look at business, business answers this question. Everything bundles and unbundles over and over like an accordion. And what ends up happening is you realize, oh, everything's centralized. Let's unbundle this stuff, give people more choice, build a whole bunch of different companies. Like, oh my God, like, there's so much choice. Then, and that's better for the consumer. And then it starts getting so fractured that the consumer gets really annoyed. Think about how many different streaming services you subscribe to. And then people start going, ah, I would actually rather you guys start bundling this up. And so then people start, through acquisition, through partnerships, they start rebundling things. And then somebody's gonna go, oh, this sucks. It's, you know, bordering on monopolistic, and we start breaking it apart again. And it will just accordion like that. If you look back through history, same thing.

• 50:01Tom Bilyeu?

  You go globalist, then protectionist, globalist, then protectionist. It all comes down to the, basically, just to oversimplify, the GDP growth of your country. When GDP is growing, everybody's happy. When GDP is stagnant or shrinking, people start being protectionist.

• 50:18Speaker 02

  And do you think AI is gonna leverage or break this model? Or that's why we're in the race now? How do you think AI and technology is gonna play in this?

• 50:26Tom Bilyeu?

  AI could conceivably blow all of this apart and make capitalism completely a non sequitur, just not matter, nobody's talking about it, thinking about it anymore. I don't know that that's going to be true. I can certainly paint that picture. I fear that our community has heard me talk about this ad nauseam. But the really, really small nutshell for somebody encountering this for the first time is, if there is no upper bound to intelligence, then AI will become super intelligent. Super intelligence will for sure allow us to capture the energy coming from the sun. The energy coming from the sun is so abundant that labor cost will go to zero, because labor is about energy. Once you think about robots as eating sunlight, then you'll understand why getting energy cost to zero is such a big deal.

• 51:11Tom Bilyeu?

  Because robots are intelligent labor, super intelligent labor, that operates for free. So if AI really does bring in that world, then you're, you're in an abundance, post-sarcity world.

• 51:26Tom Bilyeu?

  It's just, there are enough question marks that as an act of faith, I believe it. I don't know that that's gonna be true.

• 51:32Speaker 02

  Nice, okay. Headed over to the economy now locally. David Freiber brought up an example of how the government and federal loans has driven up housing costs and an alternative to how the middle class and Americans should think about growing their wealth over time.

• 51:48Speaker 07

  Today, just to give you guys some other statistics, 60% of a middle-class household's net worth is in their home. Only 10%, of their net worth is in owning the S and P 500 in index funds or whatever in their retirement accounts. And so by creating this American dream around housing and allowing the federal government to provide loans on housing, we've increased the cost of housing. We've created a very destructive housing bubble in the sense that it has reduced people's exposure to participation in productive value creation. And that's through the ownership of businesses. Instead, we've stored our net worth in a house. And in order to keep the economy and the social structure stable, we've created policies that allow the continuation of the growth in the value of houses.

• 52:33Speaker 07

  So people feel like their net worth is incrementing. You're 100% right. And that's unfortunately very unnatural. They restricted making new housing, which makes it worse with the restrictions. You know, today, just to give you guys some other statistics.

• 52:46Tom Bilyeu?

  He's right. But the part that he's not acknowledging is the brilliance of building the American dream around housing. What you are up against is the average person does not understand assets. They don't understand the stock market. You can't live in the stock market, but you can live in a house. And when you think about men and women coming together as a unit to build that American dream, women have this strong impulse to nest. And so you have, on the one hand, this is a place I can store my money that I can actually live inside, extremely practical. You also have the woman who's like, I want a nest. I want a place that's my own.

• 53:29Tom Bilyeu?

  I want a place that I can raise my children in, deep emotional attachment. And so now you're, as a pair, trying to make a decision where it's like, okay, where do we put our money? Do we put it in this thing that we can live inside, that we can have a deep emotional attachment to, that our kids can grow up inside of? Or do we put it into a much higher yielding thing, but we cannot live inside of it? We're gonna have to make short-term sacrifices for the long-term gain. And by the way, I don't really understand it. I don't know what it is. I don't know how it works. I don't want to learn about it. It's not very interesting to me at all. And it becomes very easy to see why when you propagandize people and you talk about own a home, American dream, work hard, save up, buy a house, raise a family.

• 54:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, it's emotionally intuitive. It is functionally intuitive in terms of I have this place that I can live. And on the other side, Friedberg uses a word that the vast majority of humanity, they just don't know what it means. When he says a productive asset, people don't know what that means. Like, what are you talking about? A house is productive. I can live in it. It keeps me warm, raise my kids. The stock market is not productive. But once you understand what he means is GDP growth innovation, which is almost all that matters. From people feel good, they feel happy, money's flowing, there's velocity of capital, all that stuff. But the most important part, the thing that I think people really miss is the importance of the ability to aggregate capital.

• 54:58Tom Bilyeu?

  When you take your company public, what you're doing is you're aggregating capital. You're saying to the public, I've got a vision of what I want to do with this company. This company is going to become more valuable over time. You guys, by buying the stock, you're going to be able to go on that ride with me. And as I make the company more valuable, that stock is going to be more valuable. But the productive part is that if that person is right and they're actually able to build something that innovates, because remember, companies build a thing that is so valuable, you'd rather have that thing than the money. Think about air conditioning. Just think about like what that's done for people's lives. So the ability to aggregate that capital allows them to build that incredible innovation that makes our lives better.

• 55:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, if people understood, oh, wait a second. I can take this money that I was going to put into just my house and I'm going to put it into the stock market, which is going to historically yield much bigger returns than my private home is going to yield. And it's also going to make the country better because people are going to make goods and services that make life better. So now I'm going to make a lot of money over a long period of time to make the world better. Yeah, sign me up. I want to be in that world and those companies aggregate that capital to give me a better future. Give me a better present. So, but that's so hard to understand.

• 56:24Tom Bilyeu?

  So there is a brilliance to own a home that is lacking in own assets.

• 56:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's kind of the layman's model of here, just buy this thing, stay here, live here 30 years, you'll be good. Whereas a productive asset is a bit more risk, a bit more brain power that it needs to take into account. When I hear this clip, I get triggered because housing affordability to me is a solvable issue that's not being solved. And everybody's arguing about the tea in your analogy, where we're arguing about the problem versus something that's directly affecting the price and the supply. But I'm gonna put that to the side for a second because I like that. What I'm hearing from Friedberg is that there's an incentive. If we incentivize people to invest in business or we incentivize people to be productive, to make things, to help build the economy, that would be greater and better for everybody involved.

• 57:15Speaker 02

  And I think we need to change our incentive structure from here, buy your nest egg, stay in this thing for 30 years and you will be good. And we need to figure out a way to incentivize people to say, if you invest in these companies, or if you are able to start a company, or if you do these X, Y, Z things, you'll be able to generate, build something that it now helps more people. And that's a better way for the country to operate in general.

• 57:36Tom Bilyeu?

  That ends up with people starving to death. That, that is the part of you that is just screaming, there's a better way to do this. And so we just need to force people just a little bit. What you educate people, we could do a way better job of educating. When I think that I have the intellectual capability of understanding the stock market, but nobody taught me about it. So I didn't learn about the stock market till I was in my 40s and I was worried that the average person was going to get obliterated by COVID. And so I start learning about investing because I am effectively a teacher. I mean, that's what I do in the company, out of the company like that. That is one of my just personality things and.

• 58:14Tom Bilyeu?

  As I started realizing how it actually worked, I was like, whoa, like, the world does not understand how this game is actually being played. So I would love to see people be taught about this, teach everybody everywhere about this as we grow up. So the people that are going to be able to understand that they can, and they'll get into the stock market. But the reality is, I'm not asking anybody not to believe in a house. But what I want to do is remove the distortions because the narrative has been about own a house. The government steps in and tries to make sure that a house is a good investment because they're like, well, we kind of promised you that this was going to work. If you, and this is why releasing regulations ends up, it scares people to death, but it's actually better in the long-term analysis because if people were like, well, look, a house is

• 58:56Tom Bilyeu?

  functional, it's awesome, but it's just not a great way to build wealth. Maybe real estate investing, great way to build wealth, but owning my home, I shouldn't look at as an investment. I should look at as a thing that I'm doing. It is a way for me to save money, if you will, in that the house is valuable and money that I put in to renovate it or whatever, keeps it safe, keeps it warm, place to live, and I can sell it at some point. It's a generational asset. Love that. But where you don't want to be in a position where you're keeping the supply limited because you promised people that that house is going to go up in value, and the only way you can guarantee that is by crushing the supply artificially. And so if you just let the market do what the market's going to do,

• 59:40Tom Bilyeu?

  people are going to start expanding, they're going to build houses in other places. That will keep the price lower for sure. So you're not going to see that it's just a no-brainer to go buy a house. But you let the market do what the market's going to do. And I don't see any way to remove all the downside for people and not create huge bubbles, which is exactly what we've done. And in the case of housing, just make it out of reach for massive swaths of humanity.

• 1:00:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I hear that increasing housing supply is what solves the problem and on basic economic terms, I think that that would matter. But I think that there's a perversion in the market right now, especially with the invention of like Airbnb. We can see the same thing in like the used car market with the invention of Turo. Whereas it's not a house problem, it's a people with multiple houses problem. And I'm not saying people should only live, have one house or whatever like that, argue with yourselves. But there have been municipalities and places that we have seen. Austin, for example, it was the housing market went crazy. A bunch of people bought multiple houses to Airbnb them. They put legislation in there to ban all Airbnbs. Atlanta did the same thing. The housing market then dropped. Because I think now the availability of houses isn't the true actual supply and availability of houses.

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  People are buying houses to start a housing business, just like people were buying used cars over the pandemic to start a used car business. There's a lot in Southern California where they have a hundred of Teslas sitting in the parking lot, so other people can sign for Uber and Lyft and come use these cars and use it and you pay me like an indentured servitor.

• 1:01:09Tom Bilyeu?

  This is brilliant. I don't know that I'm going to be able to navigate us through this well, but let's try because this is so important. Okay, so I say Drew, this is you want to deregulate and you're like, hold on a second, you want to make Airbnbs illegal. So you want more regulation and it was the more regulation that caused the drop in the housing prices. Let me introduce you to China. We just got to watch China live the accelerated version of the promise of the American dream. And so they said to everybody in China, just buy property. You guys are going to be good, buy property, we're going to keep building these. Everybody's going to want to try to get their money into property because property number always go up. And so people were just like literally as fast as they could build them, people were buying into them because that was the way to get rich.

• 1:01:50Tom Bilyeu?

  And then they realized, oh my God, we have a wild oversupply of housing and now a lot of people are about to get eaten alive because the government there has got to do something. They've either got to demolish the housing, they've got to let the prices of the houses absolutely crash, but that will crash the net worth of like a ton of people. And so by promising that this is the play, by making sure that people could borrow money and get into the House because number always going to go up and it does for a while until it doesn't. If instead you deregulated it and you said, if you want to build a house, build a house, but that's on you. If you take out a loan and you can't get somebody into that house, you lose.

• 1:02:33Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, all of a sudden, people that are buying up all the property are going to be like, what's the actual desire for this housing? Because I don't want to get out over my skis. And what will happen is a builder will get out over their skis. And if you don't protect them and you let them fail, then they fail and they take down some small number of people with them. But they don't take down the whole economy. And so the reason the governments end up having to print money is they get themselves into a situation like that where they've got to go in and rescue the entire housing market. Because it has become too big to fail, right? Sound familiar with banking? So you let banks end up getting too big to fail. You can't let them fail. You have to print money, which socializes the losses across everybody in the country. You prop up that industry, creates a bubble, wild distortions. People start doing crazy shit that doesn't make any sense.

• 1:03:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Because they know the government's going to step in and save the industry. And if you just, and it is painful, but if you just let these things die when they're small and let people lose money when it's small. Then you start telling people the mark, there's no one to catch you. So people start being risk averse for themselves because they know that the government isn't going to come in. And so if you want the housing prices in Austin to drop, rather than regulating and saying you can't do Airbnb, you say, if you want to build a house, build a house. And so now people go in and they, and they look at what's available on the market. Ah, nothing's interesting. I'm going to go build myself another house. Now you've got a choice. Whenever the buyer has a choice, they're in a better position. When you put them in a place where it's like, you can only buy what's already there. Gross example from Rich Guy, I get it.

• 1:04:02Tom Bilyeu?

  But my house ended up being the last what they call McMansion. So you now cannot make a house bigger than mine in the Hollywood Hills, which means I have the biggest house in the Hollywood Hills. Now, what do I know that that means about the value of the house? It means that it's always going to have a certain amount of attractiveness. Because you just can't build another house of this size. That's great for me, but I would literally in a snap say, I would much rather they reverse that regulation and let people build a better house than mine. That's fine. That way buyers have options. I would rather be in that position than feel like, ha, ha, ha. Like I got my thing and now people, you know, I'm locked in and fuck everybody else. The, it's called NIMBYism, not in my backyard. And I'm just saying. This is not an easy game and there's no super simple answer.

• 1:04:47Tom Bilyeu?

  But you want to be lighter touch regulation. Let people fail, let, let the value of my house go down. Let the value of my house drop to zero. If like this just ends up not being the cool place to live anymore, whatever. That, that is what it is. And if I bought a house that was too expensive for me, which I did not.

• 1:05:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Then that's bad on me. And if I was smart, which I was, and bought only something that I could pay all cash, great. Then if it goes to zero, I lost that money and I didn't spend more than I could afford to lose anyway. This, you, you have to put people in that position. If they know that you're going to come and rescue them, they start making poor choices that create these insane bubbles.

• 1:05:27Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:05:30Speaker 02

  Do you think it's more important? I'm setting you up, I'm sorry.

• 1:05:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Please, no, it's fine.

• 1:05:35Speaker 02

  Do you think it's more important?

• 1:05:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Cause if I'm thinking poorly, I want to know.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  Cause to me, I think housing supply is more important than maintaining wealth within your house. So to Friedberg's point of.

• 1:05:49Tom Bilyeu?

  I love that, you and I agree. Where do you think I'm disagreeing with that?

• 1:05:54Tom Bilyeu?

  It is only the mechanism by which we don't let housing and prices artificially inflate that you and I disagree about.

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  Yes, I, I think houses are artificially inflated up right now.

• 1:06:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Agreed, me too.

• 1:06:06Speaker 02

  Okay, and I think that the way to fix that is a regulation that would release additional artificial supply to be released to the public. For example, I think it's either Berkshire Hathaway, BlackRock, there's just one of those big.

• 1:06:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Probably both, but BlackRock owns basically everything.

• 1:06:22Speaker 02

  Thirty percent of single family homes are owned by people who don't actually need a single family home. It's owned by a hedge fund, it's owned by a collection of, of investors. That shouldn't be the case. I feel like single family homes should be. May owned by single families. Now, if you want to own a condo, high rise in Manhattan, oh, absolutely. God bless you. That's that's free reign.

• 1:06:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Yep. Natural limitations because Manhattan is only as big as Manhattan is. What I'm saying is totally hear you. And that is one way to go about it. And it's gonna be a balance. There's gonna be some regulation that you want. And maybe we do say, hey, look, given the situation that we're in for the next 25 years, we've just got to make it such that you can't have one company own more than XYZ, whatever. They will find ways around it. But anyway, let's say that that worked. Cool. And maybe for the next 25 years, we do need to do something like that. I'm just saying as a default stance, it is far wiser because it will create fewer distortions, bubbles. It's far wiser to limit the regulations and say, if somebody wants to build a house, they can build a house.

• 1:07:23Tom Bilyeu?

  So if there's land for sale and somebody wants to buy that land and build a house, now you get urban sprawl, but it is what it is. If people want their city to just keep expanding and there's land to expand into, let them expand into it because what happens to BlackRock is BlackRock goes, do I want to buy all these houses? Because I know if people don't like the supply, if the style of the house goes out of vogue, if the neighborhood goes out of vogue, if high speed rails is brought in, if everybody's working virtually and then they can just build a house wherever they want, this might be a bad investment. So I'm gonna hedge my bets. I'm not gonna go all in on accumulating a bunch of single family properties. Maybe I dabble a little bit because regionally, I feel like on Manhattan, like there's nowhere to go. So real estate in Manhattan is great.

• 1:08:08Tom Bilyeu?

  There's just nowhere to expand into and still be in Manhattan. And they'll naturally hedge their bets. But when you're like, oh, man, the government's not gonna let them keep building the houses that they want. The supply is gonna be artificially driven down. We're super fucking savvy. We know how to play that game. We're gonna go snatch every everything up because you guys don't have anywhere to go. And because you don't have anywhere to go as a buyer, you can only buy what's available. And very few people are going to be able to go out and build that next home. And so I'm just saying, hey, far better to put people in a position where if they're like, no, I want to build a house like just down the street. And there aren't going to be a gazillion zoning requirements. I can just go build a house and it's not going to take me five years. It's going to take me as rapidly as I can build it because people make this nice and easy because there aren't stupid regulations.

• 1:08:50Tom Bilyeu?

  And then people will build houses either because they're allowed to, or in cases where they are allowed to, but the complexities are just absurd. That they just don't because it's too big of a headache. The reason we bought this house instead of building a house was I was like, Jesus, it took them like five years to build this thing. I don't want to be building a house for five years. So, but if you could build a house in a year, which trust me is very possible. It's just all the regulations that make it too complicated. Then I might've made a different decision.

• 1:09:20Speaker 02

  Okay. I think we're looking at it, but we're looking at it from different sides because I think it's the ability to, the ability to buy is cool. And I'm like, yes, that will expand the number, but I think the total numbers already. I think we, I don't want to say I think we have enough houses, but I think if we cut certain people out of this market, that

• 1:09:39Tom Bilyeu?

  Let me say it this way. I think what you're saying is my way, Tom, will be faster. And that is probably correct. I would have to look at the problem more deeply, but let's assume that that's correct. That's why I'm saying, look, this is going to take nuanced people to come in and really look at the problem. And if somebody said, look, we think for the next 25 years, we have to do this. All that shit is a slippery soap. You and I have different default positions. My default position is lighten regulations. Your default position is I know what the outcome is, and I think by tightening the screws here and here, we can get that outcome and it will happen fast. I get it. I'm just, from my base assumptions, that leads you down a slope of bigger government, more government, more regulations.

• 1:10:20Tom Bilyeu?

  And I will assume every time somebody puts a regulation in place, they think it's going to yield a good outcome, but there are always second and third order consequences that are deranging.

• 1:10:27Speaker 02

  I have to give you that. There are second and third order consequences with everything. No solutions, just trade offs, right?

• 1:10:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Truth. Shout out to Tom's soul.

• 1:10:33Speaker 02

  In robotics news, all right, I'm gonna start with the foreigners. I'm start with the Chinese robotics cuz the US made something and I'm excited about it. I get to brag.

• 1:10:41Tom Bilyeu?

  Let's go.

• 1:10:42Speaker 02

  US got some innovation for it finally, but this uh new no text robot from China is three, three, three feet, seven inches tall. And it weighs forty four pounds. Um, the price starts at fifty five hundred dollars. To me, this is just a robot dog with legs. This entire video is him dancing and jumping up and down with kids.

• 1:11:03Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, this is awesome. Dude, I was literally like, okay, how do I convince the city to get me one of these? Uh, yeah, the only thing that stops me is I know if I wait two or three months and even cooler ones are gonna come out for even cheaper. But uh, this thing is awesome and it's running. Uh, it has, it says scroll up because there's, oh, the Nvidia Jetson is installed. So you theoretically have like full blown, however, many billions of parameters uh of a brain inside that thing. So what they're not showing you there is it should have a personality. I mean, literally, it should be able to run chat GPT. So whatever personality chat GPT can have, that robot can have. So now you have an embodied thing walking around your house, talking to you.

• 1:11:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, that is dope. If that thing could do the dishes, I'm not kidding. I would order it immediately. It just doesn't have hands, so.

• 1:11:51Speaker 02

  That, that was the weird thing, the no hands.

• 1:11:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Nah, we got a little ways to go, but that's how you keep the price point to fifty five hundred.

• 1:11:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, very true. Um, and then domestically, Boston Dynamics, which I feel like they started this robotics game cuz they were one of the first like robot OGs. Back when they were doing the Black Mirror first came out and all those other things. So it's, it's, it's great to see how far they've come along. I think the interesting thing about this is that they're using reinforcement learning policies using a motion capture suit. So it's almost how machine learning, like the large language models are scouring the internet to get smarter. They're just having a person put the motion capture suit on and then putting that inside of the robots. But again, with every week, we just feel like the robots get cheaper and smarter, the, the gap is slowly closing.

• 1:12:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, and look, I, people are gonna be weirded out by this, but this is really incredible, man. Uh, this is just so cool. So yeah, you can replay this clip when the robots take over the world, uh, as to what a dumbass I was, but this is awesome.

• 1:12:50Speaker 02

  Uh, I like the breakdancing and the uh car was.

• 1:12:53Tom Bilyeu?

  So cool.

• 1:12:55Speaker 02

  Awesome. And in Google News, they just launched Firesat, which is a Google-backed weapon to battle wildfires made into orbit. So, let me say that again. A Google-backed weapon to battle wildfires have made it into orbit. So what Firesat, which is Google-backed, what it does is it goes into orbit and it circles the globe and it can map the entire Earth's surface every 20 minutes. Now, that's fully operational. It'll need more than 50 sites, 50 satellites. As of right now, they're just starting with three and it's going to be operational in around 2026. And it was launched into space by SpaceX's transporter.

• 1:13:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, let's pair this now with fleets of 10,000 drones. Satellite sees a wildfire, launches, nah, a small part of the fleet, 3,000 drones, each with the ability to, you know, drop whatever, a good-sized water balloon onto the fire. 3,000 robots dropping water or retardant or whatever.

• 1:13:57Tom Bilyeu?

  You can really, 10,000, 20,000. The number of drones that you can sync up so they won't crash into them each other is, as far as I know, effectively unlimited. The upper bound is going to be extremely high. And so the fact that this can detect the fire and then in the future will be able to deploy a drone rapidly and you just take your high-risk areas near populations and you put, you know, whatever, your 5,000, 10,000 drones in that area. And now all of a sudden, things like what just happened in California are a thing of the past.

• 1:14:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I love how you said they're just dropping like retardant because even if they don't put the fires out, at the very minimum, they can turn the fires. They can say, okay, this wildfire is heading toward this neighborhood. Let's block it up. You can at least draw a square in upper bounds and then get the local fire, the fleet of robot firefighters who could just stand in the middle of it because they have titanium skin or, you know.

• 1:14:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Or if they melt, whatever, it is what it is. Their consciousness is uploaded and it doesn't matter. Yeah, this, this is why I am such a proponent of innovation and want to see people, countries, everybody do the things that maximize innovation.

• 1:15:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:02Tom Bilyeu?

  This makes everybody's life better.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  And an update from the streets.

• 1:15:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Let's go.

• 1:15:07Speaker 02

  It's so fun to give you these updates from the streets, Tom, so you can just see.

• 1:15:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Which is my trash, so I can, so I can see.

• 1:15:12Speaker 02

  See how the other, the other side lives.

• 1:15:16Speaker 02

  All right, I'm gonna give this caption first. Is it bad for society that so many average looking women find a majority of average looking men unattractive? If we lined up every woman on earth and put her next to her male equivalent, 90% of them would be mortified. What do you rate her out of looks of, out of 10? And there's a woman sitting in the car talking about her experience with dating.

• 1:15:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, yeah, I want people to, to see this, but what do you rate her out of 10?

• 1:15:41Speaker 02

  I, I was gonna say seven, but I just got yelled at in the live that seven is not as average, is not average, five is average.

• 1:15:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, five is average.

• 1:15:48Speaker 02

  I don't think she's a five.

• 1:15:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, exactly. To me, she is a 7.5.

• 1:15:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Like, this is, um, you're about to see, I'm not a fan of the attitude, but, uh, in terms of looks, my god, I would expect anybody to be with her to tell her routinely, my dear, you are beautiful and I could not be happier if she had a better attitude.

• 1:16:08Speaker 02

  Let's hear the attitude.

• 1:16:09Speaker 08

  I have this issue where I find almost no man attractive. Like, it's really, really annoying, because I speak to a lot of men, right? I'm very social, I love to talk. I find almost no one attractive. So like, there's just like, it just doesn't go anywhere, like, ever. I get asked on dates, I'm like, no, pass. And then when I do find someone attractive, I'm like, I'm obsessed with you, I need you. If I don't have you, I'm gonna feel unwell.

• 1:16:37Tom Bilyeu?

  That?

• 1:16:37Speaker 08

  I need them, because it's so rare.

• 1:16:39Tom Bilyeu?

  That's where I'm like, okay, huh. If you were my niece, I'd be like, all right, if you would be unwell without somebody, that you need to update your mental model, which is exactly what I think is going on, by the way, with the fact that she doesn't find anybody attractive, is her, uh, I hope what she's picking up on is there's a disconnect from a personality standpoint with people. Uh, and so whatever pool you're swimming in is problematic. This is not just gonna be the way that they look on the outside, this is gonna be a thing that you're not attracted to people on the inside. So being able to map what is it that I find attractive and then put yourself in a situation where you're in danger of meeting that kind of person, uh, becomes very important. If, on the other hand, this is like self-absorption and...

• 1:17:25Tom Bilyeu?

  This is like narcissistic flaring up and they're just not making her feel the way she wants to feel. And she's mismapping that as I'm not attracted to you, which honestly, my brain says is precisely what's happening. That could be part of the derangement, but I think that this post, who's this post coming from?

• 1:17:41Speaker 02

  Uh, the whatever podcast.

• 1:17:42Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah. So I think that that's all part of the problem. Like everybody's looking at the other side as an adversary. Flaws, all of that. It's, it is such a weird way to look at the world. If I were going into the dating world now, I would start by saying, okay, what is it that I find interesting about this person? Because we live in a world where it's quick filtration of no's and the perpetual dopamine hit of the next person might be better. Not that the next person is better.

• 1:18:15Speaker 02

  Might be.

• 1:18:15Tom Bilyeu?

  The dopamine, dopamine is a seeking molecule. It makes you wanna seek. It isn't the molecule you get when you win. Dopamine is released the highest when you get a near miss in gambling. So knowing that dopamine is the near miss chemical that makes you go, oh, the next one's gonna be amazing. I'd be like, okay, that's my brain messing with me. So I need to be smarter than that. What are things about this person I find interesting enough to go a layer deeper? Now, as I go to the layer deeper, if I start hitting kill switches, then I'll be like, okay, that part of somebody's personality I know does not play out well for me. So I'm gonna move on to the next. But if I found myself saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Then I'd be like, okay, I may need to push this like deeper and deeper and deeper to find reasons to like be around somebody.

• 1:19:01Tom Bilyeu?

  And so I'd honestly probably start steering by how many people have I had meaningful conversations with in the last week? And if the answer is zero, I start going, this might be a selection criteria problem.

• 1:19:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think, I think that's really what it comes from. I think it's, there's a base assumption, whether it's who she's talking to, I don't know. Um, my selection process is very different. So I don't, attractive to me is a blend of different things. Like if you look at all my exes, they're different shape, sizes, whatever like that. Like I don't have a type. But I am attracted to certain personality quirks that I'm like, oh, okay, that makes me interesting in you like, and that's more attractive to me. So to say that I don't find men unattractive is like, are you just looking at him? Are you saying he's not rich enough? I think there's something that she's not saying with the unattractive.

• 1:19:45Tom Bilyeu?

  I would bet money that she doesn't know what the unsaid thing is. I find most people have not mapped themselves at all. So anyway, speculation, don't know. Uh, but boys and girls, if you're on the dating market, that, that is, it is wiring your brain in a way that is not helpful and I would find ways around it. Yep. That's all I got. All right, everybody, if you haven't already and you watch this on the podcast, please head over and leave a five star review. That helps more than you know. And if you're here on YouTube and you haven't subscribed yet, please do. And until next time, my friends, be legendary. Take care. Peace. Let's talk about a pattern that is guaranteed to be killing your progress. You know what you need to do. You need consistent nutrition. We all do.

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