Bonus Episode: Addressing the Tila Tequila Rumor, Billy Corgan’s Shapeshifter, and a Glorious Rock ‘N’ Roll Jimmy Kimmel Performance.

I wanted to talk this week about Billy Corgan’s outrageous shapeshifting claim and how it relates to who he is as a musician, but the Internet had other plans. It was all about to go to sh*t until Low Cut Connie saved us all on national television. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 2:15Jake Brennan?

  Hey, Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand, the after-party.

• 2:41Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the DisgraceLand bonus episode, the little thing we like to call the after-party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of DisgraceLand to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, guys, we are discussing the Tila Tequila rumor regarding our new friend Billy Corgan. And speaking of friends, we're getting into friend of the pod, Low Cut Connie's performance on the Jimmy Kimmel Show this week. And we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. DisgraceLand is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else.

• 3:24Jake Brennan?

  All right, Discos, let's get into it.

• 3:38Jake Brennan?

  All right, guys. In this week's DisgraceLand episode on Smashing Pumpkins, we get into Billy Corgan's claim that at one point he was with a woman in bed and he saw that woman shapeshift into another being. Now, I know this is insane. It's the type of ludicrous story that we really don't get into here in DisgraceLand. But we talk about it this week in the Billy Corgan Smashing Pumpkins episode because I'm interested in why Billy Corgan would publicly make a claim like this, as he did twice on the Howard Stern Show. So I'm more interested in the reason why he would say something like this than I am interested in whether or not I think this actually happened.

• 4:22Jake Brennan?

  For the record, I do not believe that this happened. I don't believe that shapeshifters exist. I believe in a lot of crazy shit, but shapeshifters, excuse me, are, it's not, I don't believe in them, okay? But there are plenty of people who do. And you know, whatever, go ahead, believe, believe what you want to believe. It turns out that people on the internet who do believe in shapeshifters, some of them also believe in a lot of wackadoo conspiracy theories, conspiracy theories that are often centered around music industry celebrities and Hollywood types, media elites who are caught up in all kinds of evil doings. I'm talking specifically about what is known as the Ball Theory, B-A apostrophe

• 5:07Jake Brennan?

  A-L. The theory of Ball is a super viral conspiracy theory entertained by, I don't want to say serious people, more like wannabe Alex Jones types. And I do, however, want to point out that regular people on the internet, some of them anyways, I guess, who are bored, who are not very curious, perhaps gullible, or some combination of everything that I just mentioned, these folks, some of them do believe in this theory. I've seen it. I read the comments, okay? And the theory of Ball proponents believe, as the theory goes, that rock stars,

• 5:48Jake Brennan?

  Hollywood celebrities, and media elites worship a false deity named Ball, and that they make blood sacrifices in exchange for their fame, blah, blah, blah. I get it, okay? So in other words, Jeffrey Epstein wasn't just a pedo, he worshipped Ball. Sean Diddy Combs wasn't just an abusive sex freak, he worshipped Ball. Chrissy Teigen is not just a shitty bully, she worships Ball. And Billy Corgan didn't just see a person shapeshift into another being. He did so while ceremonially worshiping Ball. Here's my problem with these theories, aside from the obvious. I guess this is my problem with the world that we live in right now.

• 6:30Jake Brennan?

  Can it be enough that Jeffrey Epstein is just a proven pedophile? Or that Sean Diddy Combs is a convicted abusive sex freak? Can it be enough that there are online receipts proving Chrissy Teigen's deplorable behavior? And that Billy Corgan, one of the biggest rock stars of the 90s, a figure still very much in the culture? Can it be enough that he claims he saw a human shapeshift into another being? I mean, that's pretty fucked up in and of itself, no? Why do we have to take it to this other place? I ask because when we posted on Instagram this week, our preview of the Billy Corgan story, a bunch of people chimed in that Billy had already revealed that

• 7:15Jake Brennan?

  the person that he saw shapeshift was reality TV star Tila Tequila, which Billy Corgan absolutely did not do, okay? He has never claimed that Tila Tequila is the woman that he claims he saw shapeshift into another being.

• 7:36Jake Brennan?

  Naturally, when I saw these comments, I wanted, I wanted to know what the fuck was else? Like, do we miss something? What's going on? People are so certain. He already revealed it was Tila Tequila. It's Tila Tequila, dumbass. Anyways, you know, so I go online, I try to dig into this admittedly absurd claim, and I get sucked into this fucking world of Ball, okay? Quick side note, by the way, the best, most entertaining example of the Ball Theory in this occult God's influence on celebrities is the Anderson Cooper photo, where he's seated on his bed as a child with his mother, the heiress Gloria Vanderbilt, in front of a piece of art on the wall that conspiracy theorists

• 8:21Jake Brennan?

  claim depicts a Ball blood ritual sacrifice. You can look this up. The Ball theorists are on to something here, as crazy as it is, because the artwork in the photo is fucked up. Whatever it is, it is certainly too fucked up to be hanging in a child's bedroom, but maybe Gloria Vanderbilt just had some weird taste in art or whatever. I'm not judging, okay? And I'm also not saying that Anderson Cooper is part of this whole fucking Ball ritual blood sacrifice cult, okay? Back to Billy Corgan and Tila Tequila. Billy Corgan never admitted the shapeshifter was Tila Tequila, okay? File this under people, they just hear a snippet of information online and they take it as truth. He already said it was Tila Tequila. No, he didn't. He did not say that.

• 9:01Jake Brennan?

  There is online discourse that does claim Tila Tequila, who once kind of sort of dated Billy Corgan, was the shapeshifter. But if you dig through the Ball nonsense connected to this claim, you'll quickly find the source of this Tila Tequila claim that she was the shapeshifter of Billy Corgan's. You'll find the source that says that, and the source is, you ready for it? There is no source. There's a dude in a fucking Twitch gamer studio or whatever, on the Rumble app, with an unsourced letter from an anonymous Chicago musician who, I shit you not, knows someone who heard something from someone, who says Billy Corgan told them the shapeshifter was Tila Tequila.

• 9:46Jake Brennan?

  It's fucking dumb. My brain, I'm dumber for even saying these words right now. I can't believe I'm talking about it. So why am I talking about it, right? Well, I wanted to talk about, like I said, I wanted to talk about why Billy Corgan would make this claim. That's, that's interesting to me. I like Billy Corgan. Sure, he says a lot of provocative things, but he's thoughtful and he's a provocateur. And we need that in our culture. Safe, carefully spoken rock stars are boring rock stars, and we have enough of those. And I think Billy Corgan either thinks he saw a shapeshifter or he hallucinated and is convinced that he saw a shapeshifter. And yeah, it might even be Tila Tequila. I mean, it makes sense. She looks like a fucking lizard anyways, and her opinions are certainly subhuman.

• 10:29Jake Brennan?

  But Billy Corgan never claimed it was Tila Tequila. He already said it was Tila, Tila Tequila. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. There's no proof anywhere that supports this. And this is just another example, much like the allegations against John Frusciante from last week pertaining to River Phoenix. This is another example of that, where people, just very online people, just accept things without proof, without sources. I wrote in my notes, I don't know why this bothers me so much, but I do know why it bothers me. Now, you can say this is dumb. This is stupid. I shouldn't even be breathing air into these theories, these conversations. Shouldn't even be having them. But I do think it's important to talk about. And the reason that this bothers me so much is because I believe in the truth. And when I say that, I'm talking about the truth in music history specifically. And lately,

• 11:14Jake Brennan?

  the more I look around the internet, particularly on YouTube, or in the comment sections on our Instagram, you know, and this is the way Instagram works. For a side note, right nowadays, Instagram, it most of it doesn't go out to you guys, the followers who follow me on Instagram. When I post something, it goes to non-followers. And people just fucking jump in the comments and say dumb shit. And I know, don't read the comments. I'm discouraged, because I feel like, as a society, we are quickly losing our grip on the truth. We are quickly losing our grip on what's real, on what actually happened. And the internet, more and more, is filled with bullshit. YouTube

• 11:59Jake Brennan?

  is a perfect example. The music history videos on YouTube, with these insanely sensationalized claims, these fucking wackadoo cheesy thumbnails and titles of the videos, very little of it is backed by actual research and actual truth. And some of these videos rack up gazillions of views. And this is why I care. Because sooner or later, the bullshit is going to outbalance the actual history. And sooner or later, when that happens, the AI overlords are not going to be able to discern between what actually happened versus what the most viral video on

• 12:42Jake Brennan?

  the internet says happened. And when that takes place, we're all fucked. Okay? I'm interested in the real music history, because real music history is already crazy enough. It's wild that Billy Corgan actually said he saw a fucking shapeshifter. That is crazy enough, people. The point of the show, the point of what I've been doing for the last few years, is that what rock stars do, what rock stars say, okay, what actually happened in music history, these stories are crazy enough, they're endlessly compelling. We don't need to take everything to the nth degree, and start inventing stories and conspiracies that did not take place. Tila Tequila, and some ball occult sex sacrifice. I've spent this whole podcast so far talking

• 13:27Jake Brennan?

  about this bullshit, and I haven't yet once mentioned the actual, real, batshit crazy things that Tila Tequila has said. And I'm not going to, to prove my point, to prove that all this shitty sensationalized storytelling is a drag on the truth. We should be talking about why Billy Corgan would associate himself with someone who once said Hitler was a quote, "man of compassion." But we're not. Again, we're talking about fucking ball, okay? And part of the reason, I think Billy Corgan has said these things, has said this in particular, is because, like I said earlier, he's a provocateur. But he's also a student of music history himself, and he understands that throughout music history, musicians have made outrageous claims,

• 14:12Jake Brennan?

  like John Lennon and the UFO, like Ozzy Osbourne and the leprechauns. Okay? He gets this. He understands. And he knows that as a rock star, it's part of the gig in a lot of ways. Okay? And it's what differentiates him. And like I said, he may actually believe he saw that. People do a lot of fucked up shit. They take a lot of drugs, and they see things. Fuck, man, I've seen things. Okay? Never seen a leprechaun or a fucking shapeshifter, but I've seen things, I go, whoa, wait, what the fuck was that? Difference is, I can't go on Howard Stern, yet, and talk about this stuff. He can, and he does. And I'm glad he does. But I want to know

• 14:54Jake Brennan?

  why he does. That's the interesting part, the motivation. Anyways, like I said, he knows, lots of rock stars have made claims like this. Zeph and I are going to unpack a bunch more of them in the exclusive section of this here after-party bonus episode. Go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to get in on that conversation, plus more exclusive content and ad-free listening. disgracelandpod.com. All right. Got carried away there. I gotta calm down. Hold on, need some coffee. Coffee's like the last thing I need right now, but hold on. Tila, fuck it, Tequila. Kid me. Anyways, listen, this week, coming up in the feed, another story that the conspiracy

• 15:39Jake Brennan?

  theorists don't need any help with. It's the story of Debbie Harry and Blondie. I made the mistake last week in the after-party of mentioning that that was what was coming up in the rewind. I fucked up. Actually, I didn't fuck up. Someone else did. Not going to name names, Brett, the intern. But we ended up saying that Woods, that sorry, that Debbie Harry was coming, when it wasn't, it was Woodstock. That was the last rewind episodes. This week, we definitely have Blondie and Debbie Harry coming up in the feed, in the rewind slot. And everything I said about it last week pertains to this week. Same stuff. People go crazy over this story, because they think that Debbie Harry is making it up. She's an unreliable narrator, just like Billy Corgan. That's what they think, that she's making up this experience she had

• 16:19Jake Brennan?

  with none other than Ted Bundy. I believe Debbie Harry. And it's not just because of just knee jerk, just believing what she says, because she's a rock star, she's a victim, or whatever. It's because the facts, actually, when you look at them, when you dig into history, when you dig, when you dig just like an inch deeper into the surface level of all this, you will find that her depiction of what happened is actually backed by the facts. And that's coming up in the Blondie episode this week in the rewind slot. Then, after that, our new episode on the Allman Brothers. Yes, finally, it's here. As requested, our episode

• 17:00Jake Brennan?

  on the Allman Brothers. Now, I don't think the Allman Brothers liked being categorized as a southern rock band. But I mean, you kinda, when you think southern rock, you just think, you think Allman Brothers, you think Lynyrd Skynyrd, right? That's what you think. But there's a whole other world of great rock and roll from the South. And I want to know from you guys, who is your favorite southern rock band? Okay? Don't be afraid to call the Allman Brothers that. I doubt very much that any of them are going to hear this episode. Okay? Now, listen, this is a big category. It's not just the Allman Brothers and Lynyrd Skynyrd. Tom Petty's from Florida. The Heartbreakers are from Florida. I mean, you can go even deeper,

• 17:45Jake Brennan?

  you can go like Barquays, okay? You can, I don't know, Big Star. There's all kinds of southern, great, great, great, southern rock and roll. All right? And I'm thinking more sort of the era of the Allman Brothers and Lynyrd Skynyrd 70s, 80s. Black Crows, for example, great southern rock band. Great, great, great. So get at us, 617-906-6638. I want your take on the greatest southern rock bands of all time. I want to talk about them next week in the after-party. So hit me up. Leave me a voicemail. Send me a text. Email me, [email protected]. We'll be back in a flash with your voicemails, texts, and DMs after this.

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• 20:29Jake Brennan?

  All right, guys, we are back. I'm in the phone booth. There's someone across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. Want to do some voicemails. Want to do some texts from you guys on all subjects relative to Disgraceland. 617-906-6638. You want to get at me? That's the easiest way to do it. You can also hit me up [email protected] if you want to email me. And I'm in the Patreon chat. I'm on Patreon with Zeph and the rest of the crew, the rest of the discos, rest of the Disgraceland community in there talking music, talking movies, talking whatever. Let's go to the 614.

• 21:02Speaker 06

  Hey, discos. It's Juva Moon from the 614. Okay, love Courtney Love. Can't help it. Gotta love her. She was just the trashiest bitch for the longest of times. And maybe she still is. I've kind of lost track. I kind of was pretty obsessed with her. But when I bought Hole, I just bought Hole because they were called Hole. So had to have the album. And yeah, as far as chick bands back in that time, the best, other than L7. But

• 21:42Speaker 06

  talking about underground New York City bands, Un sane. I am the goddess of the unsane. And that is all.

• 21:54Jake Brennan?

  All right, Juva, thank you for the call. There's a lot you get into here. Courtney Love, we were talking about Courtney Love last week, and there is a Courtney Love episode coming at some point. The drumbeat is getting louder and louder and louder. It's funny you mentioned L7 and New York City bands. When I played Warped Tour in 97, it was with L7 and with Sick of It All, who I was talking about last week. And I remember they had a really cool camaraderie, both those bands backstage. And I just thought that was, that was really interesting, because you wouldn't normally associate those, those two together. As for the unsane, I'm very aware of the unsane. I once, I once stayed at a member of the unsains loft in Brooklyn back in the 90s, way back in the day, back

• 22:34Jake Brennan?

  when going to Brooklyn wasn't really a thing you did. And also, I saw unsane a number of times. The last time I saw them downstairs at the Middle East, it was literally so, it was the loudest thing I've, literally the loudest show I'd ever been to, probably the loudest show I've ever, ever been to in my life. I could feel the inside of my stomach rattling, and I actually got nauseous and had to leave from the volume of the band. And I love unsane, great group. Yeah, I don't know what goddess of the unsane means, Juva, but you know, I'm interested. Let me know. Hit me back. 617-906-6638. This comes from the 615. Hey, I have a Facebook group that I'm starting up. It's called Perspectives,

• 23:19Jake Brennan?

  about how perspectives are revealed in music. And your Billy Corgan slash Smashing Pumpkins story had me hitting my steering wheel. Yes, yes, yes. Pain can be expressed ugly and sharp, or maybe with an orchestra and strings. Gave you guys a nod and links. Sorry, still a very small group. Well, that's okay, 615. We don't mind. Thanks for, thanks for hitting us up. And thanks for spreading the disgrace and word. And you're absolutely right about perspective. And yeah, you know, this whole Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins episode, it's not just about him and the shapeshifter, although that's what the discourse has been. It's also very much about perspective and about pain. And I thank you for bringing that up. This one from the 639. Hey, Jake, I'm a fairly new listener from Canada. I'm about halfway through, and you are a wonderful storyteller. Thank you. And you have really

• 24:04Jake Brennan?

  opened my eyes on different music. And I'm also a crime junkie. And you wanted to know what people wanted played at their funeral. Well, mine is Bette Midler, Wind Beneath Your Wings, Rock-a-Rolla. Score one for Bette Midler. Listen, Bette Midler, one of those artists I came across in researching New York Dolls back in the day. And I didn't realize the extent of Bette Midler's sort of downtown cool, pre-Bette Midler as we know her now. So I'm very interested in Bette Midler's backstory and her come up. And it's something that I'm going to get into at some point. I literally read the scene, you know, it was when, when New York Dolls were playing, what was it Mercer Arts Center? And in like, you know, there's rumors that like, Jimi Hendrix was around. I don't know if that

• 24:48Jake Brennan?

  makes sense timeline wise. And I didn't really put much credence in that. But there, there was specifically Bette Midler was there, which I just thought was, whoa, whoa, whoa, Bette Midler, really? At a New York Doll show? That's, that's pretty interesting. 410 writes in, Hey Jake, Beck's from the 410. Just listened to your new Dolly Parton episode, learned some great new things. Want to ask, do you have any recommendations for more information about murder ballads? I do, actually. There's a great book, it's behind me here. Hold on one second. Got it. It's called Crime Song, True Crime Stories From Southern Murder Ballads by Richard H. Underwood. I highly recommend it. It's scholarly, but it's not too scholarly, if you know what

• 25:29Jake Brennan?

  I mean. It's, it's not boring. It's fascinating. And in particular, I think we talk in the Dolly Parton episode in particular about Knoxville Girl. Yeah, we definitely do. And it really traces that song back to its roots over in Europe, to the song Oxford Girl, which became Knoxville Girl. It goes even deeper than that. Goes like 100 years or 200 years further into sort of Gaelic, the Gaelic tradition, if I'm saying that correctly. And there's, and it gets into a bunch of other songs in here as well. It's not just Knoxville Girl. I think every song is a, a chapter. Anyways, Crime Song by Richard H. Underwood. All right, check that out. 646 writes in, Hey Jake, I hope you and the

• 26:13Jake Brennan?

  family are doing well. As a Knicks fan, I wanted to ask your opinion on the Jalen Brown trade to Philadelphia. My opinion is this, 646. See you later. Wasn't, I was, I was a fan of Jalen Brown, the basketball player. Was not a fan of Jalen Brown, the basketball player behind the microphone and online. And it just seemed like he didn't really care about being a teammate or care about winning. I mean, he finished, they went out in horrible fashion in the playoffs. And his first comments on the mic are about how this was his favorite year. Whatever. They had, they, they had to split up him and Tatum. It was never going to work for a million different reasons. That's just one of them.

• 26:56Jake Brennan?

  And I don't think they're going to be that much better without him. But at least, I don't know, it'll be different. I don't know. Yeah. Him with LeBron, though. That's funny. I like it. Jamie from the 716 writes in, Hey, I'm a little behind on episodes, but in a recent behind the scenes, you were talking about needing an angle for an episode on Fiona Apple. A lesser known fact about her is that she's an avid court watcher and criminal justice reform advocate. Could be an interesting fresh take for the pot. I love that. Did not know that, 716, and I appreciate it. Thank you very much. All right, listen, I want to give you a little bit more on Billy Corgan. I didn't know this until we get into the research. Now, you've been saying the Smashing Pumpkins

• 27:38Jake Brennan?

  wrong in your head for 30 years. No, the Smashing Pumpkins are not destroying pumpkins. Smashing isn't a verb here. It's British slang, like that party was smashing. It means fantastic, amazing, a total knockout. So the band's name isn't a violent image. The band's name is a compliment. They're not smashing pumpkins. They are smashing pumpkins, as in incredible ones. And this isn't fan theory either. Billy Corgan confirmed it himself years later, telling this actual origin story. He said the word smashing was meant to convey something fantastical and amazing. And then he paired it with pumpkins because it added that contrast, something dark and cool next to something goofy and

• 28:20Jake Brennan?

  playful. And that juxtaposition perfectly captures the band's sound. All right, discos, don't go anywhere. Keep yourself captured. We'll be back right after this with your emails and more.

• 28:43Jake Brennan?

  All right, guys, we are back. [email protected]. This one comes from Stanley Sterbuck. Subject, shapeshifters. Message, Jake, thank you for the caring and humane ways you treat people with difficult lives in your podcast. I think you're helping people think about meaningful ways of dealing with and stopping the cycles of abuse that we all want to escape. I had a shapeshifter experience with a coyote. We have too many rabbits where we live, so I keep a live trap out for them all summer. I moved them to distant prairies, so fewer of them are starving to death in the winter. One morning, my wife woke me up early because there was a crying sound outside, and it had to be the rabbit trap. When I stepped

• 29:27Jake Brennan?

  outside, I immediately saw the trap tipped over with a rabbit in it. And there was a deer standing next to it, just staring at me. And while I was looking at the deer just 10 feet away from me, I saw it transform into a coyote. Of course, it was a coyote wanting to take advantage of the trapped rabbit. But why did it appear much larger and as a completely different animal when we first started our staring contest? After I saw it shrink down and change into a coyote, I said, you don't need to eat that. And the coyote trotted off into the night. I took the rabbit to a new home on a restored prairie later that morning. And that's my shapeshifter experience. The strangest part that stays with me is that I never felt any fear. And it did not seem as though the coyote was

• 30:12Jake Brennan?

  afraid of me either. It was not a dream, but it was surreal. Stanley, I thank you for the message. Appreciate it. I don't know what to say to that. It's truly mind blowing. And who am I to question what you saw? That's the thing, you know, like, I know it sounds ridiculous. Like you hear the Billy Corgan story and you just immediately go, oh, he's fucking with us. You know what I mean? Like he's just, and maybe he is. And yeah, I mentioned the whole provocateur thing earlier, but I do reserve a little bit of leeway in my thinking here. Perhaps he thinks he actually saw that. Just like Stanley here. I'm not going to argue with Stanley. I'm not going to argue with Billy Corgan. I am going

• 30:56Jake Brennan?

  to argue with the nerds on the internet who just shut down any thinking and just, you know, make wild claims. Those are the, those are the fuckers I'm going to argue with. More Smashing Pumpkins. This one from Delbert Brown who writes saying, hey, I don't know if I can agree that Pumpkins filled the vacuum left by Nirvana despite the notoriety of the band. The vacuum sucked lots of other bands into our ears as well. I remember the first time someone asked me about Smashing Pumpkins and I said, yeah, we do it every Halloween. That's a band? Weirdly, I listen to more Patton era Faith No More, Head P E and Pantera. Siamese Dreams is a great album, but the real vacuum is Billy Corgan. He sucks. The band has talent, but that doesn't excuse his behavior. I think his contemporaries were spot on. I saw them in 96 with Garbage opening and it was about as cookie cutter

• 31:37Jake Brennan?

  and boring of a concert I've ever attended. I love the Stern interview though, especially when Howard is more concerned with the otherworldly entity's junk size. Even he couldn't take it seriously. Why even talk about something like that without putting a name on it? You think retaliation will put less eyes on it? Let's be weird for the sake of putting yourself back in the public eye with a goofy claim because you are becoming irrelevant. Delbert, you got a lot to say here, man. And I might not agree with you, but it is a view that I know lots of you have. And that's why I read your email. And I love the passion behind it as well. Delbert, write back to me anytime. This email comes from Eric Zerheid who writes in, hey, guys, I'm a new listener and I loved your podcast episode with stuff they don't want you to know, which I've been listening to for years, searching through your back

• 32:22Jake Brennan?

  catalog and realizing I'll never catch up. I was hoping to find something on metalcore band as I lay dying. Now, I won't spoil the story for you. I'm going to stop you right here, Eric. Okay. Because we are literally in the process of putting this episode together right now. Okay. It's a coming your way. Appreciate the email. Guys, you want to email me about the subject we're discussing that week in the full episode of Disgrace Land? You want to email me about anything else? Go for it. [email protected]. You might hear yourself here on the after party. All right. I'm recording this on a Wednesday. That means the Dirty Rex are coming out today. The Dirty Rex are what Zeth and I do in the Hollywoodland feed in the Rap Party episode that hits on Wednesdays. We give recommendations

• 33:02Jake Brennan?

  on music and films that are somewhat related to that week's archive episode of Hollywoodland. If you're not subscribed to Hollywoodland, you gotta be getting there. Follow Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. Those of you who are All Access members, you guys already know we've got our do the right thing, this film should be played loud, episode, video episode. That's up and ready for you right now on Patreon. Go to disgraceampod.com. Any of you who are not yet All Access members and want to watch Zeth and I discuss our favorite music from our favorite movies in the only podcast about music movie soundtracks that matters. It's called This Film Should Be Played Loud. And

• 33:44Jake Brennan?

  we're releasing for now, a new one every month. That's available again for All Access members, disgraceampod.com to sign up. Also for All Access members, our bonus conversation on the wild shit claimed by rock stars over the years throughout music history. That's coming up right now. All right, guys. I'm back after this.

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• 35:16Jake Brennan?

  All right. Before we get into the recap here, I just want to say last, uh, let's see, the Tuesday night that just, we just passed, uh, Loka Kani, Adam Weiner, that's his band. Adam's been on the show before. They had a pretty significant thing take place. They performed live on the Jimmy Kimmel Show in studio. It aired on Tuesday night and my, oh my, did Adam and the gang bring it. They were fucking great. And the thing that's so cool about the performance is Adam was totally Adam. He just did his thing. He, you know, he brought what he brings to the stage every night to live television. He didn't do some safe version of a song for television. He was out there on the piano

• 36:01Jake Brennan?

  stool on one foot, bent over, banging on the keys, jumps off, grabs the mic, goes right to the camera, gets right in the camera's face, starts saying just, it was perfect. Loka Kani. I'm so happy for my friend Adam. I'm so happy for the band. They deserve this. They are quite, quite literally the hardest working band in show business. Adam hasn't stopped since he started this, this band 10 or so years ago, or whenever it was. And I'm happy that they're receiving the recognition and these opportunities. It's, uh, it's not just good for Adam, who's a friend of the show and my personal friend. It's also great for rock and roll. They're the real deal. If you guys haven't heard Loka Kani, I, I

• 36:44Jake Brennan?

  implore you to go check them out. They're fantastic. They literally don't have a bad album. You can start with Barack Obama's favorite song though, Boozeophilia. And I'm not even joking about that. Check that out. Google Loka Kani Boozeophilia on YouTube. You'll have a great time. And then you can check them out on Jimmy Kimmel as well. All right. Let's recap. Shall we? Number one, this week, our new episode on Smashing Pumpkins is available for you right now. In the rewind slot this weekend, our classic episode on Blondie. Next week, our new episode on the Allman Brothers comes your way. Zeth is giving you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland. So make sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts or the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Number five, this film should be played loud. Our new video podcast on Do the Right Thing, that's available

• 37:27Jake Brennan?

  for you to check out. Go to disgraceampod.com to sign up to become an All Access member and unlock exclusive content just like this, along with ad free listening of every Disgrace Land in Hollywoodland episode. Number six, 617-906-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting, keep sending us your answers to this week's question of the week, or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget this goes, this isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed and no one cares about music books, records and the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right. Back on September 8th, 1994, the Smashing Pumpkins played at the VMAs. And this is what America was listening to on that day, according to the billboard charts. Number

• 38:08Jake Brennan?

  one, I'll make love to you, Boys to Men. Last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart, eight. Number two, Stay, I Missed You from Reality Bites. Lisa Loeb and Nine Stories. Last week, two, peak position, one, weeks on chart, 19. Number three, Wild Nights, John Mellencamp. Last week, three, peak position, three, weeks on chart, 16. Number four, When Can I See Babyface? Last week, one, eight, peak position, four, weeks on chart, 17. Number five.

• 39:01Jake Brennan?

  Quit talking and start mixing. Let's get a tequila, dumbass.

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