Trump's Last Warning to Hamas, China Challenges US to War?, & Crazy News In Future Tech | The Tom Bilyeu Show

In this episode of "Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu," we dive headfirst into geopolitical tensions, international politics, and rising technologies set to reshape our world. Tom Bilyeu, the insightful and probing host, explores high-stakes discussions ranging from the growing friction between the United States and China to the explosive rhetoric from Donald Trump. As the episode unfolds, the duo candidly navigates through potential economic pitfalls and the preventable slide into Thucydides Trap, providing a critical examination into the historical significance that fuels today's global theatrics. Sitting alongside Tom is Producer Drew who brings a wealth of knowledge and clarity to the table, dissecting everything from China's cultural identity to the intricacies of the Taiwan conflict. Expect to leave this episode with a richer understanding of why these international dynamics matter and how they steer the course of our future. Prepare for an episode that offers more than insight—it frames a comprehensive perspective on the global chessboard. SHOWNOTES 00:00 Unintended Consequences of Trump's Tariffs 10:15 Tough Talk Over Diplomacy 12:12 "Leadership Styles: Zelensky vs. Trump" 20:09 Political Strategy and Perception Challenges 24:57 Interpreting Sharia: A Common Law Approach 31:29 Political Polarization and National Unity 33:27 Define Goals and Test Ideas 42:51 Robot Safety Concerns 45:49 Ray Dalio's AI Expertise 52:44 Elon's Vision: Anticipating Future Trends 01:00:01 Organizing Scattered Digital Interests 01:05:40 AI Video Editing Workflow 01:08:29 Clutter Clash in Our Marriage CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS Range Rover: Range Rover: Explore the Range Rover Sport at https://rangerover.com/us/sport Audible: Sign up for a free 30 day trial at https://audible.com/IMPACTTHEORY https://audible.com/IMPACTTHEORY1 Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to https://www.vitalproteins.com https://www.vitalproteins.com/ and entering promo code IMPACT at check out Thive Market: ​​Go to https:thrivemarket.com/impact http://thrivemarket.com/impact for 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! ITU: Ready to breakthrough your biggest business bottleneck? Apply to work with me 1:1 - https://impacttheory.co/SCALE Kettle & Fire: Get 20% off your first order at https://kettleandfire.com/impact with code IMPACT Netsuite: Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning at https://NetSuite.com/THEORY https://netsuite.com/THEORY Found: Try Found for FREE at https://found.com/impact ********************************************************************** Do you need my help? STARTING a business: Join me inside ZERO TO FOUNDER here https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=6762613-Scaling%20YT%20%26%20PC%20Ads&utm_source=IT_PC&utm_content=ztf_it_pc_ad SCALING a business: Click here to see if you qualify https://tombilyeu.com/scale?utm_campaign=6762613-Scaling%20YT%20%26%20PC%20Ads&utm_source=mindset_PC&utm_content=bdceo_mindset_pc_ad Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:sign up here. https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** Join me live on myTwitch stream https://impacttheory.co/4fitmnJ. I'm live daily from 6:30 to 8:30 am PT atwww.twitch.tv/tombilyeu https://impacttheory.co/4fitmnJ ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS:apple.co/impacttheory http://apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:24Tom Bilyeu?

  An EMP weapons manufacturer secures a huge round of funding as robots prove they know Kung-Fu. Wish I was kidding, but I'm not. The stock market takes a dive, and Ray Dalio warns the next five years will be a time warp. As if on cue, Elon launches a mission to mine asteroids, and China drops a massive breakthrough in quantum computing that delivers speeds a quadrillion times faster than the world's fastest supercomputer. Hi Drew, welcome to the future.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're in it now, mining asteroids.

• 1:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh my goodness. But before we get to that, we've got to talk about what is going on between China shooting some verbal words over at us with extreme velocity and aggression, and then Trump's message back to Hamas. I am once again reminded of this feeling of driving on black ice, where everything seems fine until you lose traction and you suddenly realize just how fast you're going.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  So this is coming from the Embassy of China. This is their spokesperson, Twitter.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  The fentanyl issue is a flimsy excuse to raise US tariffs on Chinese imports. Our countermeasures to defend our rights and the interests are fully legitimate and necessary. The US, not anyone else, is responsible for the fentanyl crisis inside the US. In the spirit of humanity and goodwill towards the American people, we have taken robust steps to assist the US in dealing with the issue. Instead of recognizing our efforts, the US has sought to smear and shift blame to China and is seeking to pressure and blackmail China with tariffs. They've been punishing us for helping them. This is not going to solve the US's problem and will undermine our counter narcotics dialogue and cooperation. Intimidation does not scare us. This is when it gets interesting. Bullying does not work on us.

• 3:11Speaker 01

  Pressuring, coercion, or threats are not the right way of dealing with China. Anyone using maximum pressure on China is picking the wrong guy and miscalculating. If the US truly wants to solve the fentanyl issue, then the right thing to do is to consult with China by treating each other as equals. If war is what the US wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war, or any other type of war, we're ready to fight till the end. Sheesh.

• 3:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, this is where being a student of history is really going to help everybody. So China believes that they suffered a hundred years of humiliation, and they are never going back to that. They are never going to let people push them around again. And they have a very strong sense of national identity. They have a very strong sense of historical pride. I mean, China's thousands of years old. And so they bring all of that history, the length and breadth of their national history, as well as the recent sense of we're never going back to that. We're never going to be weak again. But this is where people also need to understand this, the ancient Greek idea of Thucydides' trap, that when you have a declining superpower, the US,

• 4:21Tom Bilyeu?

  and I do think that Niall Ferguson is right, that you best understand Trump if you understand him as somebody who believes America is currently in a weakened state. And they need to, I mean, literally, it's in his message, be great again. But that understanding he believes that we're in a weakened state. So you've got the declining United States power going up against the rising power of China, and... The reason it's called Thucydides' trap is when this happens, the two warring states cannot stop themselves. The rising power insists on getting the respect, and again, putting China in historical context, they have this idea of when you meet somebody that is your superior, you need to show them deference. Like, that's a big part of their culture.

• 5:03Tom Bilyeu?

  Kind of like with the Japanese, where you bow extra low if the other person is higher in the hierarchy than you are. China has the same idea of you, you have to show that deference through, ah, man, I'm blanking on the word. It's another word for gift. It's not the right word, but it gets you close. And so they're like, hold on a second. We've been giving you guys this goodwill towards humanity, like trying to help you guys with the fentanyl crisis. But if you're going to be running around in the media saying that we're the bad guys here, that we're not doing something, that we're intentionally sending this over. He obviously doesn't say these words, but you're triggering, and the whole 100 years of humiliation was all about the opium wars. And so tied to drugs again, now in a very different way.

• 5:46Tom Bilyeu?

  But nonetheless, this, all of this stuff is wrapped up in the response that you're going to get out of China. And so this is where we have to be very, very careful. The only immutable law is the law in history is the law of unintended consequences. And so as you've got Trump trying to make America strong again, you've got Trump wielding tariffs in a way that he thinks is going to drive manufacturing back to the US, not the only reason he's doing it, but to simplify things enough to talk about it in this context. And I think he's right. I don't think that you can have, you can't be racing towards Thucydides' trap where these two are going to collide.

• 6:26Tom Bilyeu?

  You can't be in a position where you're obviously in a Cold War, moving towards a potential trade war, moving towards a potential kinetic war, and let your rival, even if you're not going to call them your enemy, you can't let your rival control all of your supply chains. And through globalism, we got ourselves in a situation where so much of the

• 6:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Worlds manufacturing, not just us, but so much of the world's manufacturing was being done in China. To the point where basically the entire robotics and drone industries have their supply chains going through China. China could then just stop that. And so now you're in a position where all of modern warfare is going through. Your greatest rival, the person that you were most likely to end up in a kinetic war with. You can't be in that position. So I'm empathetic to what Trump is trying to do, not only empathetic. He has to onshore some degree of manufacturing. We have to be able to control. Some enough of our destiny that if we found ourselves in that situation, we wouldn't be standing flat footed. So some of this stuff has to be done. Now, the way that he's doing it is.

• 7:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Going to be a question that people will study for ages and it's we're obviously in the middle of it. So I've no idea how this is going to play out in the fullness of time. But China clapping back as aggressively as they are.

• 7:50Tom Bilyeu?

  Is a signal that you don't want to ignore. And when you've got so, uh, one of the most interesting takes on Taiwan that I've heard is to think of Nvidia. As a drop shipper for Taiwan and that. TSMC, I believe, is the name of the company. That the reason that. Trump is working so hard to get them to build a manufacturing plant here in the US is that if. China was to invade Taiwan to reintegrate it. You can't be in a position where basically all of your modern goods are controlled. In that one little island, which again, historical context, there was a civil war in China.

• 8:32Tom Bilyeu?

  That Mao Zedong won and the people that lost fled to Taiwan and became modern day Taiwanese. So there is a ton of bad blood there. This would be like a little bit weird because the, obviously the morality of the American Civil War was so different. But you have.

• 8:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Man, when I really think about the morality of the communist power that won, pretty bad. It'd be a little bit like the South winning. And then the North fled to like a small island. And now they've become incredibly prosperous, certainly a lot faster than mainland China did. But anyway, you have that kind of blood between the two. And so Xi Jinping needs to be taken seriously when he says, we are going to reintegrate Taiwan. So that's like the milieu of all the stuff that's happening that is behind that tweet. So when you read that tweet with the historical context, with understanding the supply chains, understanding where modern warfare is going, it's like, yo, this is one of those where, boys, if we could get diplomacy going, that would be a much better play.

• 9:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Because I would much rather see Trump working behind the scenes with the Taiwanese companies that we rely on so much to bring their manufacturing to the US, but without being so aggressive publicly towards the Chinese in the form of tariffs, that would help a lot.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  Well, keep in mind in the situation, Trump hasn't responded yet. There wasn't any tweets or anything, but something that Trump did tweet was spicy words. And it happened while we were prepping for the show. We had to redo our intro. We had to kind of retool the show around to kind of cover this, but I thought this was fascinating. He tweeted this to Shalom Hamas, means hello and goodbye. You can choose. Release all of the hostages now, not later, and immediately return all of this dead bodies of the people you murdered, or it is over for you. Only sick and twisted people keep bodies, and you are sick and twisted. I am sending Israel everything it needs to finish the job. Not a single Hamas member will be safe if you don't do as I say.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  I have just met with your former hostages, whose lives you have destroyed. This is your last warning. For the leadership, now is the time to leave Gaza, while you still have a chance. Also, to the people of Gaza, a beautiful future awaits, but not if you hold hostages. If you do, you are dead. Make a smart decision. Release the hostages now, or they will be held to pay later. Donald Trump, President of the United States of America. I think these are two, this is a wildly different take toward Hamas than what we've seen toward Russia, toward what we've seen to China. But how do you like this response to Hamas and the Palestine-Israel conflict?

• 11:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, so this is one where I fully accept that I may be completely out of step with what a lot of people in America want. But I read this and I'm thinking, um, okay, listen, Sunza has made it very clear that you are not a great military leader if you win a hundred out of a hundred battles. You're a great military leader if 100 out of 100 times you subdue the enemy without having to fight. And I think part of the reason that Trump got elected is people like the tough talk. They are sick and tired of um, having this soft, non-lethal approach where America was just feeling more gentle, more kind, more all-inclusive and feeling like we're being pushed around internally.

• 11:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Because even if they couldn't articulate exactly how globalism made their life worse, which of course you also have to factor in money printing, but they might not necessarily be able to articulate that. But they look at a city like um, the steel towns in Pennsylvania. They look at Detroit and they see our manufacturing base is being gutted. They see that we don't have that promise anymore, that your kid's life is going to be better than your life. So like, hold on, something is wrong. I want somebody that comes in and can, and this is important for any leader, can intoxicate the people with certainty and say, I know exactly what needs to be done and I'm going to take care of this for you. So I get why a lot of people are gonna like that message.

• 12:41Tom Bilyeu?

  My beef is that I want to be inspired by the words that somebody uses. And reading this tweet did not feel cool to me. This felt like somebody that is posturing. Again, going back to when you start viewing him through the lens of somebody who is currently in a weakened position and is trying to re-establish their authority. It, it gave me the same feeling that I had watching him with Zelensky in the White House, where I thought everybody misplayed that situation. Zelensky quote-unquote fired the first shot and he could have kept that whole thing from unraveling. But I didn't look at Trump's response and go, oh, that's somebody who's actually in control of the situation. That felt like somebody, like a really aggressive dog, like barking versus,

• 13:26Tom Bilyeu?

  uh, I don't know if you've ever seen those um, dogs that protect like sheep and stuff, but like the really big fuck-off dogs? The one, they just stand there and they, they, they're not barking and freaking out like they post up, they're ready for whatever comes. Quick break, but don't go anywhere. There's more to come after this short break from our sponsors. Luxury brands are not charging you more for better cashmere. You're paying for the storefront, the ad budget, the name on the tag, but Quince cuts all of that out. They work directly with ethical factories. They skip the middlemen and sell 100% Mongolian cashmere, starting at just 60 bucks. 50 to 80% less than similar brands. Now, I gave one of these as a gift last year.

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• 15:57Tom Bilyeu?

  All right, we're back. Let's get into it.

• 16:01Tom Bilyeu?

  And when I think back to Churchill and the way that he communicated and the way that he was known himself personally for physical courage, putting himself in literally as an officer, requests being sent to the front line of World War I to walk like trench duty around. And people were like, I didn't want to go with Churchill because he was so overly confident. He would just stand up. If he heard a bullet whiz by him, he wouldn't even duck. And people were just like, that was somebody who they, I mean, the old adage, talk softly and carry a big stick. And so I'm not saying I don't want Trump to lay down the law. I love the idea of him saying, like, when he said, you have until 12 noon.

• 16:45Tom Bilyeu?

  And if you don't at 12 noon, we're going to do XYZ. I didn't love the all hell will break loose, but fine. Like that one thing, draw the line, but then really do it. The fact that he didn't bite the last time, and now he's giving me a similar bark, but just like, yeah. I'm just like, hold on, hold on. And also, I understand what he's trying to accomplish. But when you say to the people of Gaza, a beautiful future awaits unless you harbor the hostages. And if you do, you're dead in all capital letters. You're, you're giving up the moral high ground. You start feeling like, and this is what comes to mind, you start feeling like a Karen, right?

• 17:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Who's shrieking and being obnoxious instead of being the person that is in control of the situation. Let me see if I can channel this. There is a really cool video that I wish I had thought of to pull up before this. It's good enough. Try to find this. There is a former, I believe he was a K-1 fighter as a bouncer, who this guy comes up to him and is making all these crazy threats. And the bouncer is so calm. Because he knows I will dismantle this person. And so he's like telling him, hey,

• 18:07Tom Bilyeu?

  you need to back off, you need to calm down. And the guy is losing his shit. And you think, man, anybody in a weakened position, that's not it, is likely to really like be, it might be that.

• 18:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Ah, no, it's not. Damn it. My apologies to everybody watching if we had found this ahead of time, but it was so impressive that the guy clearly does not, he's not afraid. And when you get somebody who understands, I'm in control of this situation, I can completely dismantle you, and then they give that talk, it's like the speech in Taken, he's not yelling, he's not screaming, he just lets them know how it's gonna be. That's what I wanna feel. I wanna feel that thing I feel when I read Churchill's speeches, where it's like, it is an orator who is so good at communicating, and so believes that they're not gonna lose, that he's able to get people behind him, because you're

• 19:07Tom Bilyeu?

  like, this guy represents me and he's making me feel like a badass. He does not make me feel like, the, the guy who's about to get in a fight, who's secretly trying to back you down by, posturing and yelling and all that. So, that's what I want to feel from Trump. So, this guy comes up to the club, he's like, let me in, and, oh, rewind that, because I think it sets the stage. Okay, a loudmouth wants to get into the club, the bouncer doesn't let him in, the guy starts to make trouble. What the guy doesn't know, the bouncer is Michael Kerr, a kickboxing world champion. Okay, so first of all, the guy trying to get in the club is bigger than the fighter, which is

• 19:49Tom Bilyeu?

  part of what makes this feel so interesting, because the bigger guy is thinking, you know, I've got this, and I'm sure he's bullied people his entire life by being the bigger guy, and he thinks that because he's bigger, he's stronger, but, okay, play it, this is interesting. I'm gonna read it because it's in a foreign language. What? Hey, let me into the club. Hey, what's up, son of a bitch? And then the guy walks in, and touches the posit, and so the, the bouncer pushes him back, and the guy says, don't touch me, and he calls him a bitch multiple times. Don't touch me, son of a bitch, shut up. Do you wanna kid me? Let us talk boldly like men do. What? Like men do, sissy. Who? Do you mean me? I will fuck your mother. Alright, pay attention. Okay, so the

• 20:33Tom Bilyeu?

  yellow is the kickboxer.

• 20:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Posit?

• 20:39Tom Bilyeu?

  Rewind it. So the bully said, "I will fuck your mother." Okay, you're gonna have to pause it each time because it goes by too fast. Alright, so the kickboxer says, "Pay attention. One, my mom is too old for you. Two, you can't fuck me because I am hetero." And then the other guy says, "I will fuck you." "It is impossible. I'm not gay." Keep playing. "And listen, I know you from somewhere." Okay, so he's all, look at this. The guy's already calmed down because the energy is so different. It's so weird. He doesn't know how to compute. This guy's not afraid of me.

• 21:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Keep going.

• 21:18Tom Bilyeu?

  "What, you knowing me? From where do you know me?" "I know your face," says the bouncer. "I think I know your brother." "Which brother?" "What for a brother?" "You made trouble here already before," says the bouncer. "I never made stress in my whole life." Okay, this is the bouncer again. "Your brother's name, Rami's name." Okay, I don't, I don't think the rest of it matters. But he, basically, he ends up not having to fight.

• 21:40Tom Bilyeu?

  When you see that kind of energy, it so throws the other person off that

• 21:48Tom Bilyeu?

  they don't know how to make sense of the situation. Now, I am well aware that Hamas uses terrorist tactics. They are more than happy to die for their cause. And so you're not gonna be able to use the normal playbook. But the thing that I think Trump often loses sight of is you're speaking to Hamas, but you're also speaking on the world stage. And you can tell that he doesn't have the energy of the person who is supremely confident that they're gonna be able to deal with this. What would be, "This is complicated. I'm not saying what I'm about to say is easy. I'm just saying, this is the kind of thing you wanna aim at." Imagine, you're Israel.

• 22:30Tom Bilyeu?

  You know you've got in your back pocket all the cell phones, all the pagers. You've got a thing like that saved up in your arsenal. That's when, and I get it, they couldn't because Biden was president at the time, but I'm just, the ideal scenario of how you want this to play out. You've got that thing in your back pocket. And you say, "Guys, we're drawing a line." This day, this time, you're giving everybody back, including the bodies, or all hell is gonna break loose. Not in all caps, just nice and simple. If they miss the deadline, boom, they all blow up. You go in, you swarm, you do whatever, whatever all hell breaks loose is gonna be, you just do it. Like, you're not saber rattling, you just do it. And you do the most gangster, like, full-blown, all-in attack, all at once.

• 23:15Tom Bilyeu?

  And you, you just play that card, like, to the nth. Then the next time that you go and say, dear whoever it is that we have conflict with, you've seen how we move. I'm telling you right now, you want to back off, do whatever the thing is. And then people know, you're not bluffing. Your bite is far worse than your bark. When you draw a line, you stick to it. It's just been this really awkward thing here with him drawing lines that apparently Israel wasn't on board with. I don't know, but like, it is diminishing his stature on the world stage.

• 23:57Tom Bilyeu?

  It even makes me, somebody who like, wants to see him win, because obviously I want America to win. It makes me go, eh, this doesn't feel good. This doesn't make me feel like you're in control of the situation.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I really wanna kind of loop back in, like, the general world stays about that. Because there is a fight right now to minimize Islamic extremism. And I don't think Hamas has as much support as we think they do. So let's check out what Prince Mohammed said at the Future Investment Initiative.

• 24:28Tom Bilyeu?

  This is the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.

• 24:29Speaker 02

  We only want to go back to what we were, the moderate Islam that is open to the world, open to all the religions. Seventy percent of the Saudi people are less than thirty years old. And quite frankly, we will not waste thirty years of our lives in dealing with extremist ideas. We will destroy them today.

• 24:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Pause it. This was my original take on Israel Palestine. Before I started looking very closely at it, I was like, look, I have no idea how this is going to play out. But what I do know is that this is going to be an economic game. You want to get people to the point where they believe the best way to make their children's lives better is to build an economic future where they can have a good life in this life, right? Because a big part of the hard part about being up against an extreme Islamist group is that, well, they believe martyring themselves for the cause is like the greatest way to have spent your life. And when you're up against that, you're never going to find peace. And that's why the hardest thing about this whole thing for me is what happens when you

• 25:37Tom Bilyeu?

  like the outcome, but you hate the way that you got there? Because if the outcome of the way that Trump and Israel are playing this literally leads to all of the Palestinians being moved off the land while they redevelop it, turn it into the, whatever he says, the Riviera of the Middle East.

• 25:57Tom Bilyeu?

  But if it brings peace and it works, what do you do with that? Because it's obviously wildly immoral to force people off of their land. But at the same time, like, we've watched however many decades of just back and forth violence, back and forth violence. And so something has got to give, something has to change.

• 26:19Tom Bilyeu?

  But hearing the Crown Prince talk about this, and in, there's a longer version, it's not this one, but in another talk that he gave, he really starts detailing out exactly how they're going to go about interpreting Sharia law, how they're going to, he said, look, we follow the Quran, the country is run on the law of the Quran, but basically, everybody's got their own interpretation. And he starts walking through how you do this well. I doubt he would like the portrayal that I'm about to give, but this is exactly what it made me think of, the brilliance of British common law. The thing that makes common law so brilliant is it says, hey, there are just certain things that have withstood the test of time.

• 27:02Tom Bilyeu?

  And so you want to go with the things that have just been running for a while because now you know the second and third order consequences. You know, the incentives that you might not have seen coming. You've seen that all those exploits work its way through the system. And these are the things that have lasted for a long time because they yield good results. And that was the way that I took what he was saying is, look, there are translations, or not translations, there are interpretations of the Quran that have been used over and over and over because they yield good results. And then there are things that are newer, that are more idiosyncratic to the person that is pushing that interpretation. And so having these two things happening at the same time is really fascinating because this is the way that you settle this.

• 27:46Tom Bilyeu?

  The specifics of it, I can't tell you. That'll play out the way that it plays out. But it has to be people seeing that in this life, my kid's life can be better than mine, that this is economic output, innovation that we can all get behind, that will make things better and that by peaceful coexistence, even if not cooperation, fine, compete, but competing on an economic stage so that things can get better. That's the only way forward. And so to see the Crown Prince really try to modernize not just Saudi Arabia, but to modernize the Islamic religion en masse is incredible.

• 28:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, it's going to be very fascinating to see how this plays out and to really complicate the issue. One thing that I've been hearing talked about recently is that there are Muslims who look at what's going on with the level of extremism coming out of places like the UK, coming out of the Netherlands. And they're saying, we would never put up with this in an Islamic country. So like, what's going on that they're allowing this kind of extremism? So, man, I'm optimistic. I don't want to be naive, but I'm certainly optimistic.

• 29:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Quick break, but don't go anywhere. There's more to come after this short break from our sponsors.

• 29:15Tom Bilyeu?

  All right, we're back. Let's get into it.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  And it comes at a trying time because with all these international conflicts going, happening around the world, the US has some internal conflicts that we need to get to. And I'm talking about the President Trump's joint session of Congress yesterday where I have seen during State of the Unions when the other side doesn't stand up, where the other side, you know, rose their eyes when the President is listing all their accomplishments. But I think last night was probably one of the most divisive ones I've seen because somebody actually got kicked out and we have the clip to play right now.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  He's telling about the win.

• 30:39Speaker 03

  Now, for the first time in modern history, more Americans believe that our country is headed in the right direction than the wrong direction. In fact, it's an astonishing record, 27-point swing, the most ever.

• 31:07Speaker 03

  Likewise, small business optimism saw a single largest one-month gain ever recorded, a 41-point jump.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  Speaker Johnson, David News Gavel.

• 31:25Speaker 04

  Members are instructed to uphold and maintain the quorum in the House and to cease any further disruptions. That's your warning.

• 31:37Speaker 04

  Members are engaged in wilful and continuing breach of decorum and the chair is prepared to direct the sergeant-at-arms to restore order to the joint session.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  And then spoiler alert, he ends up walking Senator Green out.

• 31:54Speaker 01

  It's this is, I've never seen that happen before and I've been following politics for a long time. I think it's getting to a point now where the pettiness is getting there, but UK Parliament, Japanese Parliament.

• 32:06Tom Bilyeu?

  And I wish it was just pettiness. Yeah, so you're about to make a really good point. The UK Parliament, Japanese Parliament, you see this kind of thing a lot. And forgive me, I don't know if the Japanese actually have a parliament, but their form of government, I have seen them literally come to fisticuffs. And they both have amazing countries. The UK is awesome for whatever flaws and faults it has. Same with Japan. And so it doesn't, just because people are yelling and, you know, being this upset with each other, doesn't necessarily mean that we're about to drive off a cliff. But I go back to that analogy of being on black ice. And at any point,

• 32:51Tom Bilyeu?

  it just feels like suddenly you're more likely to slip and have a spin out. What bothers me is, I really had hoped, probably overly optimistically, that given that Trump had won the popular vote, that we would find ourselves, not necessarily coming closer together, but not continuing to race apart at the incredible rate that we are. And this certainly feels like an acceleration. To your point, the fact that he had to be escorted out, that is, that to me is a sign of division that people should just constitutionally, I mean internally constitutionally, they should want to find a way back together,

• 33:33Tom Bilyeu?

  that they should, instead of focusing on divisive rhetoric with their own constituents, like saying something along the lines of what we say in business, which is I disagree but commit. So it's like, hey, he is the president. And obviously, we have three branches of government for a reason. So we're not just going to roll over and do whatever he wants. But at the same time, if we all have the desire to make the country better, let's find those things that we can have in common. And if we had a congressperson or a senator that was, even if they were just using it as a PR battle, going and saying, here's what I think the Democrats and Republicans not only can agree on, but they ought to, as an order of morality, agree on. Things that are in the middle.

• 34:17Tom Bilyeu?

  And that means you're going to have to make concessions. We as Republicans have to make concessions. We as Democrats have to make concessions. And painting a picture of how to bring things together. This is one of the things that I hold myself accountable to, is rather than just banging a drum and being on a team and saying like, oh, my God, these guys are idiots. And, you know, talking about all the places that we should stand up and cheer. And look, there are going to be plenty of commentators that are pointing out, whatever side they're on, they're just going to point out all the ways that the other side is stupid. And their audience is going to love them for it because it lets you be on a team, lets you be on a tribe, and you get a cheer. The thing that I hold myself accountable to is saying, okay, what do I want to see? And that's what I want to see. I want to see somebody put forward, what are the ideas? Like, if you think that Trump is wrong, what are the ideas that aren't your tribe's version,

• 35:02Tom Bilyeu?

  where you know that the other side's going to scream just as loud? Like, what are the things you really think would work? And to me, it all begins with, you have to state what your end goal is. You have to state what your value system is. And then you have to state the things that you believe that you think will actually lead to reaching those outcomes. And then it's like, great, you've now put forward a hypothesis. That hypothesis can be tested. And yes, it means that you can be found lacking and that your constituents go, well, you've been wrong so many times. Like, you tried all those things, none of them worked, we want you out. And people are so afraid of being able to be held accountable that they would rather be reelected than to actually take the country somewhere good. And that I find mortifying. And my hope is that in the age of social media,

• 35:43Tom Bilyeu?

  that somebody could create a platform where they're able to be heard enough that they could continually be the voice of reason. But that is certainly not what we saw in this session.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  And the Democrats are certainly using social media for Other methods Elon retweeted now we're up to 22 Dem senators and end up being 23 all doing the same cringe video simultaneously I will buy a cyber check for anyone can provide proof of who wrote this particular piece of propaganda and then Destiny retweeted it good this is what Dems need consistent messaging this is what MAGA has been doing for 10 years and for those that didn't see it this is the video

• 36:33Tom Bilyeu?

  it goes on and on and listening to it it's actually hard to tell but they are saying verbatim the same thing uh so look okay so I I like Destiny I have no idea if that feeling is shared but I like Destiny a lot having values that are shared I like being able to talk authentically about those values I like having a goal as a party of where we want to end up and being able to articulate that message about where you want to see people end up I like but having everybody reading a script like that where they're trying to pass off as if they are thinking of it off the top

• 37:17Tom Bilyeu?

  of their head that feels so outdated like you I remember the first time somebody started getting clowned on for this and it was Vin Diesel he was promoting the movie where I had to gain a bunch of weight I forget what movie it was and he told the same story the same way over and over and over and I get it because I do the same thing like you'll get a story that you're so used to telling you say it the same way over and over it's bad enough when it's one person just doing it on different platforms it's something else entirely when everybody in your party is saying the same thing because it makes them sound like NPCs it makes them sound like their own rails the thing that people are responding to with Trump is that he thinks for himself say what you will man but you are getting Trump like he cannot help but reveal himself he is always like I'm like dude

• 38:02Tom Bilyeu?

  he's telling you how the machinery of his mind works he's telling you How the machinery of politics works, he can't help himself. So I think for the Democrats to be able to even the playing field, you've got to get people in there that themselves really understand like, this is what I believe, this is where I'm trying to get us, this is how I think we get us here, that can speak extemporaneously, that don't mind people coming after them. I mean, something Destiny himself is extraordinarily good at. You can put him in the most hostile room ever because he thinks for himself, because he understands how all the pieces connect. A, you can't anticipate always what he's going to say. He will surprise, certainly me, routinely. This is somebody who has a high functioning worldview.

• 38:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Whether I agree with everything or not, it's a high functioning cohesive worldview. And so you can come at him in any way that you want and he's going to be able to handle himself well. And you're not seeing that out of the Democratic Party. And so I want to see two sides that are approaching each other as equals, that really have players of equal like ability on both sides of the fence. But on one side, you've got clearly people that are not afraid to think for themselves. And then on the other side, you have people that are literally sticking to the script, which is the very thing that people are pushing back on. So I'm like, oh my God, you guys are going to end up in a death loop.

• 39:23Speaker 01

  If I could try to still man it for a second, what's the difference between like a business, having a sales team that all has the same exact script and saying, okay, go recruit, go sell these products for us? Isn't that what the Democrats are doing with these identical videos? That they're just trying to say, hey, this is the message to our constituents. This is what we want everybody to know. Everybody cover these three points. Here is the script. So you know exactly what to say. Go in your office and record it.

• 39:48Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, when you have a salesperson and you say, all right, here's the script. All you have to do is read it. They're magic words. Just say them to people when they ask you a question. The second you get asked a question that you weren't expecting, if you don't understand why the script is the script, meaning the key points, why you're better than the competition, what the value proposition is that you offer, human psychology, why it's in the order that it's in, because it like it's building blocks that are trying to lead somebody somewhere. When they give you an objection, you're not going to be able to handle the objection. You're not going to be able to say, I get where you're coming from. Let me explain why this works. Because they don't necessarily understand what's driving it. They don't understand, okay, I'm trying to end up here.

• 40:33Tom Bilyeu?

  And because of my value system dictates why I want to end up there. And then the things that I believe about the world mean that we have to navigate in order to get there. When you don't have that, you are literally parroting talking points. And the second that somebody asks you a question that isn't on the script, you stop. This is like fake martial arts versus MMA. In fact, that is the perfect way to explain this. When you see somebody that knows how to do Kung Fu, when the other person is doing Kung Fu, Kung Fu looks awesome. When you see somebody that knows the forms of karate go up against a BJJ practitioner who can break your joints 76 different ways. All of a sudden karate looks stupid because if they get you on the ground, you're toast.

• 41:17Tom Bilyeu?

  So you, what you ultimately get is somebody who understands the entire art of fighting. That no matter what this person throws at me, I'm going to know how to deal with it. I'm going to know how to defend if we're standing. I'm going to know how to defend a takedown. I'm going to know how to defend against different locks. I'm going to know how to put them in locks. I'm going to know how to strike. And now all of a sudden, you don't need fake rules. You don't need easy softball questions. And this is people's, certainly my beef with Kamala Harris. It was like, who are you? I want to know what you really believe because you're going to be in a meeting with Xi Jinping and he's going to say something that's not on script. And if you're looking over your shoulder, talking to your handlers, because you don't know how to answer it, because you don't know how all this stuff adds up.

• 42:01Tom Bilyeu?

  You don't have your own thoughts about it. Jesus, man, on a world stage, that's crazy town. Or something emergency happens and you've got to respond very quickly. If you don't have a cohesive worldview where things tie together, yikes, how are you going to make a decision? So this is why in business, you always say data drives decisions. You have a known outcome that you're trying to get to, and everything's what I call the physics of progress. You do your best guess. This is what I think is going to lead to that. The data then gives you feedback, you adjust and you keep going. But all of it hinges on. You know where you're trying to get to and you are business savvy. Like you've been doing this long enough to know how to move. But it comes from having a cause and effect view of the world.

• 42:46Tom Bilyeu?

  When I hear somebody reading off a script, they don't have a cause and effect view of the world. They've been giving talking points and they know how to repeat them well. At that point, you're you're an actor, you're not a diplomat.

• 42:58Speaker 01

  Wow, mic drop. All right, in future tech, let's switch it up. I'm tired of politics.

• 43:03Tom Bilyeu?

  Brother, tell me about it.

• 43:06Speaker 01

  I thought this was cool and scary at the same time. Why are we treating, teaching robots how to fight? It doesn't make sense. They're gonna be bigger than us, they're gonna be stronger than us. At least let us have that advantage over them. Let's check this video out.

• 43:20Tom Bilyeu?

  That's so crazy.

• 43:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, so we are going to teach robots everything, first of all. And if we don't teach them, the robots are gonna learn. Because they will watch, I mean, literally, it's the Matrix. They will just be like, upload Kung Fu. And keep in mind, to a robot, Kung Fu is simply a sequence of movements and weight balance and all of that stuff. So they could literally get that data instantaneously. So please understand that you're not going to be able to protect yourself against that kind of thing. And unfortunately, Isaac Asimov's, Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics. I don't think there's a way to actually put that into reality. It's very cool in sci fi, but I think in reality, that's not gonna be possible. So.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  Robots will be killing people.

• 44:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, let's take that slowly. Robots will certainly have the ability to kill people. That is for sure. If nothing else, they slip and fall, they weigh more than you, they crush your skull. That, you will see those deaths. The one that I worry about, because I will for sure have robots in my house, and I also have tiny dogs. And I worry about the robot slipping and falling on the dog. So I would love some sort of thing where if the robot detects that the animal's within whatever distance, that it freezes in a like very balanced position. It would need to be something like that, because that kind of thing is gonna happen, for sure. Then, on top of that, forget the the accidental, like robots either become sentient or it slips and falls.

• 44:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Robots are going to be involved in warfare. Drones are the next wave of warfare. Uh, next, they're being used right now to kill Russians and Ukrainians. So, uh, thousand percent, you have got to contend with killer robots already today, not in the future.

• 45:07Speaker 01

  Well, luckily, uh, Eperus, Eperus? I'm gonna go with Eperus. It sounds more like they're not trying to kill us. They just announced a $250 Series D fundraising round for hyperscale leonitis production capability for critical asset protection. That is a fancy way to say we're about to get an EMP.

• 45:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Yup.

• 45:28Speaker 01

  To keep pace, we must move from one-to-one engagement mindset to one versus many. I love how they sum up, sum up war in that way because to your point of like drones and swarms, I think war is gonna fundamentally change, just like everything else is gonna change with AI robotics and things like that.

• 45:42Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, imagine you're a ship in the middle of the ocean and you see a swarm of 10,000 drones flying towards you. There's nowhere to go.

• 45:52Speaker 01

  Jeez.

• 45:53Tom Bilyeu?

  They can outmaneuver you, they're faster, and each of them carries ammunition. And you just drop all 10,000 bombs. And sure, each of them are small, but it's enough to just Swiss cheese.

• 46:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, death of a thousand cuts, right?

• 46:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, it's, uh, it, it is really a shift in the way that warfare is happening. That was actually one of the more interesting things Zelensky's been talking about is they've gotten really good at manufacturing drones. So, man, we, we really have to understand the reality of the things that we're up against, not wish them to be different, but instead plan for the inevitability.

• 46:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I think that this is the perfect segue into Ray Dalio's clip that's really gonna talk about the next five years are going to feel like they change faster than anything else we've ever seen before.

• 46:38Tom Bilyeu?

  That is a certainty. I do believe we're gonna go through a time warp, okay? What I mean, it's gonna feel like, poof, you're going through over the next five years. And that environment is because-

• 46:49Speaker 05

  Of these five major forces that did all of these things. And the changes in the technologies, particularly artificial intelligence and related technologies. So the world five years from now.

• 47:03Tom Bilyeu?

  Here's the thing you have to understand about Ray Dalio. He's been engaging with AI longer than most people that can hear my voice right now have even thought about it. Because trading and investing has been relying on AI for a long time now. So this is not some old guy who doesn't know about AI. This is not some old guy who's terrible at predicting the future. This is the man who's made more money than anyone, as far as I know, in human history, based on the ability to see the future, bet on it and be right. He built the largest hedge fund in the world, which is precisely what they do. They look at the entire globe and say, where are we going? And they get there, they get that understanding faster than anybody else. That's the guy telling you, yo, AI is about to change things at a rate that your mind is not prepared for.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 47:48Speaker 05

  Is going to be a radically different world. And I don't know what that's going to look like when you go into the world of quantum computing. And what quantum is like in so many different ways. It raises questions of, you know, what is that like? I'm not smart enough to tell you what that world is going to look like.

• 48:07Tom Bilyeu?

  All right, so the guy who has built this incredible company off of being very good at looking into the future is talking to you about the technological singularity. He may not know those words, but that's what he's talking about. He now realizes I can't see into the future in the way that I used to be able to. And this is, we talked about this maybe a week ago, that Elon tweeted out, we are now standing on the event horizon of the singularity. Meaning the, the people that are making the AI, they all realize, oh, like this is moving so fast that the rate of change is going to create a kind of future blindness. Future blindness scares me literally at every level.

• 48:50Tom Bilyeu?

  As a business owner, where do I put capital? I find myself like glitching between deploy capital as fast as you can because things move so fast, you've got to get to that thing first because it's going to be a winner take all scenario. And reserve your capital because things get so much cheaper, so fast that every dollar you spend today is like spending $10 tomorrow. So you'd be in a much better position waiting because now you're going to get 10x. The output of the dollars that you spend. So it is, uh, man, this is, this is going to be weird. It is going to be a period of disruption, the likes of which we have never seen before.

• 49:32Speaker 01

  And literally right on cue, as soon as Ray Dalio says that China just takes a massive leap forward in the quantum computing arms race. Its latest model crushes Google's latest quantum benchmark by six orders of magnitude. This is their quote from the University of Science Technology of China. We have successfully executed a larger scale random circuit sampling than previously achieved by Google, further widening the gap in computational capabilities between classical and quantum computing.

• 50:02Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, this is where we have to say the word quadrillion because this breakthrough is nuts. So their breakthrough in quantum computing delivers speeds a quadrillion times faster than the world's fastest supercomputer. Dude, this is, now, it is very important to note, quantum computing is still in its infancy and this is a long way off, but whoa, like the fact that they're one, evolving as rapidly as they are, and two, what they're showing is this isn't going to be a little faster than traditional computers. This is. This is an insane amount faster. Now, one thing I want people as they begin to build their mental model of what quantum computing is, quantum computing is a different kind of computing.

• 50:45Tom Bilyeu?

  So this isn't necessarily going to go head to head with whatever will be the supercomputer of that day. It's for a very different thing. But for stuff like drug discovery or protein folding, where you want to go on a fractal path to see what are all the different ways to run the maze, that's what it's going to be exceedingly good at. Also cracking passwords. But that, that's an example of, well, this could be a gazillion different things. Well, what if we could run a gazillion different questions basically at the same time to come up with the answer? That's why people always go to, oh, this is going to break encryption. Yes, it will. Again, there'll be plenty of time for people to adjust and the good guys will have this faster than the bad guys. So it is a never ending arms race, to be

• 51:29Tom Bilyeu?

  sure. But it isn't the sort of all terrifying boogeyman that I think people are going to hear when they start hearing about quantum computing. More than anything, like this is exciting to me that we're actually making tangible breakthroughs in physics in the level of like qubits, like a thing that's like there that we can actually do something with.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  It's crazy. But speaking of races, the space race just got a lot more interesting.

• 51:55Tom Bilyeu?

  This is crazy. I didn't even know this was about to happen.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  Elon just launched Odin, which is a SpaceX Falcon rocket, and it's on, it's a private spacecraft on a mission to scout an asteroid packed with platinum and other rare metals. So here's the plan. It's 1 million miles away. Odin is chasing out asteroid 2022 OB5 over 300 days. Scanning for treasure, high-res images will confirm if it's a cosmic gold mine. Next step, landing. If it's rich in metals, a second mission will drill straight in. Astro forge gold, refine 1,000 kilograms of space metal in just three months and bring it back to Earth. The days of digging up our planet might be numbered because the next mining rush in, is in space. Wow, I have to give a shout out to my boy Jeremy. Me and him not even friends no more, but I have to give credit where credit is due.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  He called this like four years ago because it was when Virgin launched their space program. Jeff Bezos launched his space program and SpaceX was taken off. He was like, why are all these billionaires, I was like, why are these billionaires going to space? He's like, because there's a bunch of gold just floating up there. Like, there's so many minerals up there that we just need to extract. If we learn how to extract, there's so much more. There, he said trillions, I don't know if he was being, you know, facetious or not, but there is orders of magnitude more wealth in space floating than there is inside of our Earth. Now, of course, if we would have dug every Earth, every drill, it might be equaled out, but with what the research that we have now with Trump trying to go to Canada, other places to grab minerals, if we can find it in space, this has to be like a win, right?

• 53:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Drew, in, in ways that are hard to grapple with, we are living in a sci-fi present. It is absolutely fascinating, but yes, there is, I mean, depending on how close we need them to be, and that will come down to how fast we can get our ships to travel. But for sure, in the vastness of space, it, it just becomes a question of distance. But there is way, way, way, way, way, way more out in space than there is here in Earth. Because you have to wait for them to hit Earth in order for it to be here. But yeah, I mean, this is absolutely incredible. What I love is that Peter Diamandis and Elon Musk had a conversation about this years ago at this point.

• 54:04Tom Bilyeu?

  But Peter had launched a, a space mining company. And Elon was like, it's not the right time. And I always thought that was so fascinating, that one of the things that Elon is unbelievably good at is going, oh, I know where this teleporting puck is going to be. So they say, don't skate to where the puck is, skate to where it's going to be. But things are moving so fast now, to me, it's always felt like the puck is now teleporting. And Elon just has an ability to go, I know where that's going to be. And so it might not be for 12 years, but he'll run the math and he'll be like, this is when it's going to be, and these are the things that we're going to have to do in order to be prepared to get there. I mean, it's really, really incredible. This is why I say think from first principles, run.

• 54:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Math. Don't get overly excited. Don't be like, oh my God, we're gonna mine asteroids and it's a huge opportunity. He goes, okay, but knowing what I know about physics, this is how long it's gonna take us to get there. And I mean, apparently he was right. So this is, uh, this is unbelievable because if we can bring things that are very hard to find here, uh, down to earth, again, that whole idea of we want to drive the cost of things to zero. The goal isn't to like, oh my God, I've got a trillion dollars worth of this stuff. The goal is to bring so much back that it's like tin. It's like meaningless. Now you can just make whatever you want. Remember, the goal is to have a thing. The goal isn't to make the money so that you can go get the thing. The goal is to have the thing.

• 55:30Tom Bilyeu?

  And so we've been playing this game forever. And look, I'm Captain Capitalist. Like I've tried to play the life out of the capitalistic game. I've had some big wins and it's amazing, but at the end of the day, I just want the stuff that it leads to. I don't need to have more stuff than somebody else. If I can have all the things that I want that make my life awesome. I'm here for it, man. I am here for it. And so this is one of those things. AI, robotics, being able to find rare earth minerals, uh, off planet and make that stuff now super common. Oh my God, like this is exactly how you get the world of abundance that people want.

• 56:06Speaker 01

  It's crazy. Also shout out to Mass Effect because that was a point in the game. You used to go to other planets, have to mine them, take resources. And that's the first time I was like, oh, we're going to other resources, other planets to get stuff? That's interesting.

• 56:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Go Mass Effect.

• 56:15Speaker 01

  And like, and now this is like a future. It's crazy. So when you said science future, it like triggered something with that.

• 56:20Tom Bilyeu?

  I like it. And shout out to No Man's Sky, who I think is the modern day version of exactly that.

• 56:24Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 56:24Tom Bilyeu?

  If you've ever played.

• 56:25Speaker 01

  I haven't played No Man's Sky. Nice.

• 56:26Tom Bilyeu?

  The most hated game when it launched, people lost their minds. And those guys just kept their heads down, kept developing, kept making it better. So shout out. Very impressive what they've done.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  Now that we talked about the future of space, I want to talk about the future of algorithms. This is Jack Dorsey, Twitter's and blog's co-founder. He had a very interesting perspective of how our scrolls might change.

• 56:44Speaker 06

  I think it's less about free speech. I think it's more about do we get to choose how the algorithms are programming us? Because the algorithms are definitively programming us. And it's very, very hard to tell what an algorithm is going to do and predict what it's going to do. And that's where the danger comes in. But if I can choose what algorithm filters my tweets and what I get to see. And I have instead of like an app store, an algorithm store where I get to put these on my, my timeline. Then I have a lot more agency in the content and the experience. And I think it ends up creating a much healthier relationship with the technology. And I'm not just speaking about Twitter. This is for YouTube and for financial technologies. We are being programmed. These algorithms know our preferences better than us. That's only going to increase.

• 57:27Speaker 06

  How do we increase agency at the individual level? It's by choice. It's by being able to turn off the algorithm. It's by being able to choose different algorithms. It's by being able to make my own algorithm.

• 57:38Tom Bilyeu?

  That is so right on the money. I really love that idea. I think, uh, here's how people want to start thinking about this. So you're going to have an AI, your own personal AI. You're going to be kicking off data from your Oura ring, from your eight sleep bed, whatever. And you're going to say to your AI, hey, find me an X algorithm that lowers my blood pressure. Find me an X algorithm that helps me bring my stress levels down. And all of a sudden, instead of seeing, uh, all the political fighting, you end up seeing like optimistic things, hopeful things, educational things, whatever, whatever the thing is that makes you feel the way that you want to feel. And people will finally realize something that I've been beating the drum on forever. You're having a biological experience.

• 58:22Tom Bilyeu?

  If you focus on tuning up your own mind, your stress levels, the vision you have of yourself, the future, all of that stuff. It, it is like taking a drug. You can so dramatically change the way that you feel by what you focus on and what you think about the things that you focus on. That it, it is the difference between dying young because you've been so stressed out and living a longer, healthier life. And so you, you are beginning to have more and more of your data in real time. And if you had an AI that's able to then effectively manipulate the world around you to make it a better experience as measured by data points that you tell it to care about. Now, all of a sudden, it's like, oh, this customized version of social media is actually incredible.

• 59:05Tom Bilyeu?

  And you can switch your algorithms on the fly. And so, much like now, you would do a search and say, you know, show me cute pets or whatever. I would say to my AI in natural language, hey, AI, I'm laying here in bed with Lisa. We want to watch some cute videos pop them up. We want to watch funny videos. They'll pop them up. We want to watch videos on relationships, whatever. But it's not just going to randomly show me videos or show me videos that are most like. It's going to show me videos that either correlate to a data response that I wanted to pick up on. Or like I could say, optimize the next 30 minutes for laughter. And so, it's reading either the sound in the room or whatever signals I'm kicking off at a data level of that.

• 59:45Tom Bilyeu?

  And it's optimizing, optimizing, optimizing for what we've asked it to do in real time. And that, the depth of the relationship that people are going to have with their AIs, the ability to control feedback via algorithms, is going to get extreme. And I think it's going to be incredible. Now, the only law of history is the law of unintended consequences. The question becomes what happens when everybody's life is that individualized? Like, it will be so atomized. I don't know, but my guess is it's better than what we're doing now. I love social media. I would never want to go backwards. But I also don't have an addictive personality, so I find it very easy to pick up and put down as I see fit. Some people obviously do not.

• 1:00:27Tom Bilyeu?

  But if your algorithm could ask you, like, what are you trying to optimize for? I want to love my life. Okay, cool. How do you, is that sleeping well? Like, and it would give you the host of like data points that you want it to like check for? Or you could be like, choose the best deal, like when you see when there's like eight options for a product. And it's like, this is the best one. And they make it bigger. You could do the algorithm like this one's chosen the most by people, whatever. That stuff is going to be incredible. It is going to be a tailored world. And as long as you pick the right metrics, it won't be tailored and leading you to a deranged state.

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think there's a utility there because for me personally, I have so many kind of. Gathered interest that even my AI chats like I'm a Claude person. So I have like seven Claws and one's like car mechanics and it's a bunch of questions about that. And another one's like religion stuff and there's a bunch of stuff like that. And it's like the app I'm working on as much so it's everything is kind of segment like segmented. And then when I go to YouTube, I'll have, I'll look at one video, I'll do some research for the show. I'll look at another video and now my algorithm is like half things I watched in college, half things I watched yesterday, half researched because chat dropped the name in. And I think I like this scenario that Jack is kind of proposing because I could just kind of go and click and be like, okay, work mode boom. And then now it's algorithm for everybody that's associated with the show or like, okay, personal mode boom. And now it's all the visual personal growth videos and things that I watch personally.

• 1:01:47Speaker 01

  And you can kind of customize what you want to see at that point. And I think that would also add additional utility to the platforms themselves because this whole like, just keep them on the platform, keep them on the platform, rabbit hole them to death. Everybody gets caught up, we go through the spiral, but at the end of that spiral, everybody feels worse. And I think that's the part that they're, they're getting, they're squeezing the juice and then they're just kind of like, all right, well, we got them. And they're like dismissing us where I think that there's another way to kind of utilize the interaction with the algorithm that could be more beneficial for both the person and the platform long term.

• 1:02:16Tom Bilyeu?

  No doubt.

• 1:02:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's interesting. All right, um, this was like super cool. And as a Star Wars person, I definitely want your opinion on this. So YouTube remakes a million dollar VFX scene from Star Wars alone in a week.

• 1:02:29Tom Bilyeu?

  I'm going to guess this was a lot more than a million dollars and that just sounds good in the headline.

• 1:02:41Tom Bilyeu?

  When they show the shot by shot comparison, you see that this is exactly that. It's crazy.

• 1:03:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Alright, this is where you're gonna wanna actually look at your phone so you can see this.

• 1:03:09Tom Bilyeu?

  This is the shot by shot comparison and you see it is frame perfect.

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  I don't know, I might have spelled a couple million dollars for that smoke.

• 1:03:20Tom Bilyeu?

  I have to say that the dust is pretty cool. That's the one thing Star Wars has over the remake.

• 1:03:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, he's missing one shot.

• 1:03:39Tom Bilyeu?

  That's incredible, man. Look, this is, this is the exact kinda thing that makes me go, I've gotta race, I've gotta deploy capital and really do the storytelling stuff that we wanna do. Because the tools are getting so good and they are so cheap that the only thing that matters is do you have taste? And so this is where it gets interesting because now like all the creative people that are like up in arms because AI can just copy this, that, or the other, doesn't matter. If people don't know how to tell a good compelling story, if they don't know how to compose shots, all they're gonna do is copy. Like that, that's amazing and literally no shade because I think he was showing something else. He wanted to show that you can recreate it for next to nothing.

• 1:04:23Tom Bilyeu?

  But it's shot for shot, like he's just mimicking. The people with taste are gonna be able to actually create something new. And now all of a sudden, like if you've ever thought, my boss is like keeping me down, he's not letting me do the cool thing, you can now do it on your own. Like the guy that is

• 1:04:41Tom Bilyeu?

  considered by many to be the biggest influence on the look of the original Into the Spider-Verse, which, man, if you remember when that came out, I watched that trailer so many times, I'd never seen anything that cool. I was so amped for that. That guy got fired.

• 1:04:57Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:04:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Cause I guess he was a pain in the ass to work with. But now from that guy's side, I have to convince anybody of anything. I can just do my thing. All these tools, now I can do it myself. And so we are about to find out, like there are gonna be no gatekeepers. We are gonna be able to see who's got something to say, who knows how to say it well, who's got taste. And so this is that great equalizer, man. No more complaining, don't waste time, just go do your thing. And I'm telling you, if you plan to do this, if you plan to use AI, AI's not quite there yet. But as evidenced by that, like these tools are getting so good, you want to be doing it now. Do not wait until it's push button perfect to get started because by then the players will have established themselves.

• 1:05:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Look, there's always room for the best. So even if you come into this late or you're a kid or whatever and it's not your time yet. Don't panic, but man, in this moment, if you can be the person at the bleeding edge, if you can be the one deploying the stuff before anybody else, you can really make a name for yourself.

• 1:05:55Speaker 01

  Okay, Tom, give us the exclusive. Give us the exclusive. So it's not to wait. What do you think he used like program wise? If you had to like check it, like what AIs do you think he used to recreate?

• 1:06:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, I'd be very curious to know if he's actually using AI on this. That I don't know because it's too perfect in terms of the match and getting AI to match. The only thing I could imagine is if he were doing a video overlay, but I don't think he is. I I would like to think he would consider that cheating. So my gut instinct is that he's doing things like, and I haven't researched this, so I don't know. But if I had to recreate this, I would do the following. So I'm going to get my background, which that could be entirely fake. So that you'd be able to generate pretty easily. I'm going to film myself running on some setup. I mean, it could be a big warehouse. That it doesn't matter. AI is very good at that. And then saying, okay, over here on something like mid journey, I've developed that plate.

• 1:06:49Tom Bilyeu?

  And then I'm going to pull that into something like runway ML, which has the ability to use the structure of your video, meaning the person will be in the same place, they'll still be running. If you want mountains or whatever, they'll be in the right place that you want them in the shot. And then you overlay that on top of the video. So you run that process on it. So now instead of you running in a warehouse, it's you running in front of the mountain sequence. But the camera work, all of that stuff is all going to be the same. And then the special effects is probably the one thing that was AI. I guess he could do it in something like After Effects as well. It's hard to know if he's using After Effects, Adobe, Firefly. And then you've got AI stuff. So it could be any one of those. But all of them now have generative fill.

• 1:07:33Tom Bilyeu?

  They have like you can control the size and all that of the explosion. So. I wouldn't be able to look at that and tell you exactly which of the tools that he used. But the thing that I think is the most exciting right now in AI that would help him, whether he used it or not, is that ability to replace, keep the structure known as, but then change it to, okay, now it's Lego. Okay, now it's in Iceland. Okay, now it's in the desert and it will just change it out. It's crazy and it looks photorealistic. It's insane.

• 1:08:05Speaker 01

  Love it, love it. All right. It's everybody's favorite updates. Streets is trash.

• 1:08:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Let's go.

• 1:08:12Speaker 01

  Uh, this was an interesting post. Um, I don't know if I agree or not though. But I, I had a very different like upbringing.

• 1:08:18Tom Bilyeu?

  This isn't Streets is Trash though. This is just men be women.

• 1:08:21Speaker 01

  That's my fancy name for our relationship segments. I just want to let everybody know. I'm still single out there ladies. DMs is open. No, I'm joking.

• 1:08:28Tom Bilyeu?

  They're not open?

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  No, I'm joking that the streets are trash. My DMs are open for the right one. You saw the hair flip? You saw the hair flip? All right. Matured in marriage is realizing that when your husband says he'll do anything for you, he means fighting bad guys and dragons and shit, not folding clothes and washing dishes and stuff. As a married man in the room.

• 1:08:49Tom Bilyeu?

  That's so true. When I read that, I was like, this is exactly accurate. I would literally die for my wife, but I'm not gonna mop the floor. I'm not gonna tidy up socks. Like that is just not a good use of my time. But if somebody breaks in, oh yes, I got you covered. I literally once had to clear my house. I locked my wife in this sort of safe room part of the house and literally with a weapon cleared the entire house. And I was like, yeah, yeah. This is what I'm here for. The disposable male hypothesis, boys and girls. I don't know why, but it actually makes me emotional.

• 1:09:25Speaker 01

  Was it always like that? Like back in the day when you guys were just starting, um, back in day one phases? Like was it?

• 1:09:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, very early.

• 1:09:32Speaker 01

  You were the messy one, she was that.

• 1:09:33Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Like to this day, the thing that my wife and I fight over is I think it is. Patently absurd to hide things because you want on the surface for it to look nice, but you don't know where things are. And so now you're going to spend some ungodly amount of time looking for that cable, or where did I put that jacket shirt, whatever, because somebody hangs it up where you don't think to check for it. Dude, that drives me crazy. But my wife has made it very clear. She does not like the way she feels when the house is messy. So I can't argue that. But at one point, we had settled on, I could just put things in a box. As long as I had things in the box, I was fine. So I knew all my

• 1:10:17Tom Bilyeu?

  random shit that I just want to know where it is. It's all in that box. Drew, do you know what this woman did with that box?

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  What did she do with the box?

• 1:10:23Tom Bilyeu?

  She fucking hid the box. I wish I were joking. She hid the box. And one day I went to, I'm like, where's the fucking box? And she's like, oh, well, so and so was coming over and I didn't want it to be left. I was like, what is, we literally came to an agreement. As long as I kept it in the box, I was fine. And so now the box is hidden.

• 1:10:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's messed up, Lisa.

• 1:10:42Tom Bilyeu?

  They really do be like that.

• 1:10:43Speaker 01

  Alright, that's all I got.

• 1:10:45Tom Bilyeu?

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