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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:51Hannah Berner?

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• 1:35Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Like so many people have my location.

• 1:43Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're, you're calling the FBI.

• 1:52Hannah Berner?

  Yep. Yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:09Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:21Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:26Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:46Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly, women deserve.

• 2:51Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 2:57Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:09Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:12Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:25Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:26Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:47Hannah Berner?

  Okay, this was pages. What's up my Gorgina gigglers?

• 3:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 3:51Hannah Berner?

  That was actually a thing in 2016. I called everyone Gorgina.

• 3:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Gorgine.

• 3:55Hannah Berner?

  Gorgine.

• 3:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I think Courtney Kay started it.

• 3:58Hannah Berner?

  And then you'd like go to Starbucks and say your name is Gorgina because you wanted them to yell Gorgina.

• 4:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, I didn't take it. I didn't take it that far.

• 4:07Hannah Berner?

  Wait, what started this whole 2016, everyone posting their 2016 photos?

• 4:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, some girl did a TikTok.

• 4:14Hannah Berner?

  It's always one girl.

• 4:16Paige DeSorbo?

  That said, in 2016, the Chicago Cubs won the World Series. That should have never happened. That put us on the wrong timeline. And so they're saying that if the Chicago Bears win the Super Bowl, we're going to be put back on the timeline. Why everyone's hating on the Chicago team?

• 4:36Hannah Berner?

  Chicago's like, why are we getting involved in this mess?

• 4:39Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what? Since this is a sports podcast.

• 4:41Hannah Berner?

  Chicago catching strays.

• 4:44Paige DeSorbo?

  The only time that we like keep up with football is like when it's about to be the Super Bowl, which oh, I have to tell the gigglers.

• 4:54Paige DeSorbo?

  One thing that I always think about, and not just because like I've made New York City my personality for the past 10 years, but sorry, New York is carrying the country on their back. Why do they have so many sports teams? It's not just like one sports team. It's like they have two in each thing.

• 5:14Hannah Berner?

  Well, we have, New York has three.

• 5:15Paige DeSorbo?

  And then you go to a little further down the map. Hey, guys, why don't you pull some weight?

• 5:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyone ever gone to a South Carolina football game? I don't fucking think so.

• 5:28Hannah Berner?

  Well, they're, they're into colleges, like South Carolina, the Gamecocks.

• 5:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And that says a lot. And that says a lot. Um, okay. Yeah, their college. That actually makes so much sense because that's where they've peaked and stuck. You know, and then it's like, we're like in New York, we're like, great, that was so cute in college. Here's the professional big leagues.

• 5:49Hannah Berner?

  All the gigglers from South Carolina are like, I just turned this on to enjoy my week. I'm just getting flamed.

• 5:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, my glasses on today.

• 5:58Hannah Berner?

  Wait, Paige's outfit? You actually are giving like aunt, like your version of aunt who like went to Harvard, but then took ayahuasca and her life took a turn for the arts.

• 6:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, I was like, I went to, I was pre-med. I'm a doctor.

• 6:14Hannah Berner?

  And then you realized-

• 6:15Paige DeSorbo?

  But I found this passion in pottery.

• 6:19Hannah Berner?

  And now we make insane bongs.

• 6:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I, yeah, I have like my own weed line.

• 6:27Hannah Berner?

  You got a drug addiction, but you're pretty, so it looks fashionable.

• 6:29Paige DeSorbo?

  So they're like, she's like heroin chic though.

• 6:32Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm obsessed with this.

• 6:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, last episode, you made me nervous because you were like, we should start doing our outfits. And so then this week I was like, oh, we're doing our outfits. And then I walked in, I go, guess we're doing our outfits.

• 6:44Hannah Berner?

  I was gonna say, I didn't brush my hair. For the YouTubers, I have to apologize, I didn't brush my hair.

• 6:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I put an outfit on actually before and I was like, I can't, I had to iron it, but I didn't want to. And I was like, I can't wear this, because the gigglers get really upset when-

• 6:58Hannah Berner?

  They'd rather you just not than show up with a crinkle.

• 7:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they don't want you to half ass it. And I actually agree, like just don't, just don't-

• 7:06Hannah Berner?

  Just do what I do. They don't have ass, either full ass or no ass.

• 7:09Paige DeSorbo?

  The thesis line of Giggly Squad is do it full on. And if you're not, don't do it at all. And we lean with the latter.

• 7:16Hannah Berner?

  But do you know what's sad? This is actually a curated outfit.

• 7:22Hannah Berner?

  I was gonna wear like a little yoga top, but then I was like, Hannah, Paige can't handle when your boobs are out. She gets very weird. She starts having all these like, saying you should do this more. I don't like all the attention. So then I was like, I'm gonna wear this like New York tennis shirt and then do high socks. Like I want to be like brunette Princess Diana. If she wasn't as regal-

• 7:43Paige DeSorbo?

  You're a redhead.

• 7:45Hannah Berner?

  So true.

• 7:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's just get right into it. Let's talk about the Golden Globes.

• 7:48Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 7:51Hannah Berner?

  Nikki, incredible.

• 7:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Incredible.

• 7:53Hannah Berner?

  Incredible. If she was a man, people would be like-

• 7:56Paige DeSorbo?

  There would be a statue somewhere.

• 7:57Hannah Berner?

  She'd have 10 Netflix specials already, like done the deal. The deal would have been out. She would have been in the Jumanji movie already. She'd be on every AT&T commercial.

• 8:10Hannah Berner?

  Not that she's not doing well, by the way. She's doing incredible.

• 8:14Paige DeSorbo?

  What is the celebrity pipeline to phone commercials? It is like, it's always like-

• 8:21Hannah Berner?

  Once you hit AT&T, you know shit.

• 8:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Like Jason Bateman does T-Mobile. That's so interesting.

• 8:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Obviously, like, top line is Amy Poehler, queen.

• 8:31Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 8:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that she won the Golden Globe for Best Podcast first year. It's the category. Started her podcast 10 months ago based on, I see so many men doing it not well. I can do it 10 times better with giving 25% of the effort. And she really did. And now, look, Amy is like a grown adult. She's so sweet, so nice. She, I don't feel like she has a vindictive bone in her body. And I think she's actually said that she has a very good relationship with her ex-husband, Will Arnett, who they have two children with. But there had to be a little bit, just a small ounce of,

• 9:18Paige DeSorbo?

  now watch me walk up on this stage and accept this award, something you've been doing for five years.

• 9:26Hannah Berner?

  Now, as Italians, we knew what was happening in the room in that moment. Beautiful.

• 9:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Beautiful.

• 9:32Hannah Berner?

  We're dancing in our graves.

• 9:33Paige DeSorbo?

  That was art. That was pure art. One thing I do want to point out about the Golden Globes, was the budget cut. What was the room? It felt like the ceiling was very low. Like, when they did like a full pan of the room, I was like, wait, is this in like a gymnasium?

• 9:49Hannah Berner?

  A little comedy club. I do feel like every time there's an award season, it's like the first time I've ever seen an award season. And it's the first time I'm like, wait, we just had an award show yesterday.

• 9:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:00Hannah Berner?

  Now we're doing another award show today. It makes me feel like movies are just made for this award show run.

• 10:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so happy you said that because I had to look up, I literally said, went to Google and I said, "The difference between all the award shows, give it to me now."

• 10:15Hannah Berner?

  No one knows the difference. They're like, "These people are voting," but they're just saying different academies that, I think it's one guy in a booth.

• 10:22Paige DeSorbo?

  The Golden Globes are voted on from, no, foreign press.

• 10:29Hannah Berner?

  Foreign bias.

• 10:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Foreign press.

• 10:30Hannah Berner?

  What is the foreign press?

• 10:31Paige DeSorbo?

  So, anyone who writes articles about the industry, about the TV shows, about the movies, about the actors, they're voting.

• 10:38Hannah Berner?

  But it's not the critics' choice.

• 10:40Paige DeSorbo?

  That's the people.

• 10:41Hannah Berner?

  The critics are different than the press?

• 10:43Paige DeSorbo?

  The critics are the people, like, of America. The people can vote on the people's.

• 10:49Hannah Berner?

  And you know what is kind of annoying is that to win the Oscar...

• 10:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Which is the Academy.

• 10:55Hannah Berner?

  Which is the Academy, who we apologize for.

• 10:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:59Hannah Berner?

  You have to have, like, it's all politics.

• 11:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And then the SAG Awards, which I think they renamed to the Actors Awards, that's each, they're voting on each other. So, I would say that, I would say that the celebrities probably care...

• 11:16Hannah Berner?

  They want the-

• 11:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Possibly about the Actor Awards.

• 11:18Hannah Berner?

  They want the Oscar. Also, the Actor Awards are all just voting for themselves.

• 11:22Paige DeSorbo?

  And they say, like, whoever wins the Golden Globe, that's usually, like, who will win the Oscar?

• 11:27Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm. Can I say what's pissing me off?

• 11:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:30Hannah Berner?

  I've been holding it in. Okay.

• 11:32Paige DeSorbo?

  She's finding it.

• 11:35Hannah Berner?

  Hudson, my sweet, sweet Hudson Williams.

• 11:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:38Hannah Berner?

  He's being hilarious. Like, he's running around, having fun. He's-

• 11:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:42Hannah Berner?

  He's shot into fame, which honestly is so scary.

• 11:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 11:47Hannah Berner?

  Like, I can't even imagine. And side note, everyone was like, "Why doesn't Amy Poehler have a, have a, why isn't she a late-night talk show host?" Because podcasts are where it's at, baby.

• 11:57Paige DeSorbo?

  That's where it's at.

• 11:58Hannah Berner?

  You think she wants to go into New York City every day and-

• 12:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, media's just changed so much in the past 10 years.

• 12:04Hannah Berner?

  She wants to have her podcast. Anyway, I digress. Hudson, and everyone's like, "I love how he's just so free and so whatever." And it's like, because he hasn't had his first, you know, people getting mad at him.

• 12:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't let him be free for six months.

• 12:15Hannah Berner?

  Don't let him be free for a bit, and then you realize, "Oh, I need to shut up."

• 12:18Paige DeSorbo?

  He's coming up on a cancellation in August. Yeah.

• 12:20Hannah Berner?

  He poses for the glam bot and puts two middle fingers up, which was iconic. Like, put it in the Louvre.

• 12:30Hannah Berner?

  Kylie Jenner gets a casual photo taken, sitting and puts two fingers up. The comments are like, she's trash. She's horrible. She should be burned at the stake. She's horrible. Her whole family's horrible. Her mother's horrible. Her business is horrible. And under Hudson's, everyone's just like, this is my king. Protect him at all costs.

• 12:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Imagine taking the time, you see a photo of arguably one of the most famous people in the world, Kylie Jenner. You take the time to go to your keyboard and go, what trash sent? Sorry, that's so diabolical. Like, look, we have a pot. Look, actually, I talk shit all day long. It's like one of my favorite things to you. In the comfort of my home, you freaks.

• 13:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 13:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I'll text my friend. People that like talk shit about people, like consecutively, like you know each week, like they're gonna have, they're gonna post something negative about someone. Oh, that's gotta be such bad energy, like in your own body.

• 13:35Hannah Berner?

  I think it's how they feel about themselves.

• 13:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Do you know how many celebrities that in my head, I'm like, ugh, what trash? But I would never say it on the internet.

• 13:47Hannah Berner?

  Oh, God. Um, but yeah, I, I didn't, I watched like some of the aftermath of it all. And I feel like the outfits were fun. I was happy.

• 13:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like, I feel like a lot of people looked really good. It's so funny. One of my favorite outfits was Emma Stone and she was dressed in Louis Vuitton.

• 14:05Hannah Berner?

  I could see you in that. I could see you in it.

• 14:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I had a lot of girl. It's so funny when you post fashion because it's so split.

• 14:12Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 14:12Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like such a good example of like, wow, the internet's so weird. Cause the first message is like disgusting. The next one is like, that's perfect.

• 14:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 14:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I did get so many messages

• 14:22Hannah Berner?

  Like my last dress.

• 14:24Paige DeSorbo?

  From girls being like, you would like this one. And I was like.

• 14:27Hannah Berner?

  Well, people were like, it looks like a cheese slice, but it just.

• 14:32Paige DeSorbo?

  It looked cool, girl. She looked stunning. Like, I think she's so pretty. It was so funny because, oh, I don't wanna make you mad or anything, but one of your friends DM'd me and we did do a little bit back and forth.

• 14:50Hannah Berner?

  Which one?

• 14:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Your friend Gabby.

• 14:53Hannah Berner?

  My blonde friend.

• 14:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Your blonde friend. So she DM'd me off the Emma Stone picture. And she was like, something like, oh, I love this one. And I was like, it's so funny. So many people are getting mad at me for posting this. God forbid, I love when an upper bluff is done well.

• 15:09Paige DeSorbo?

  And someone's on the right amount of bosom pick. Like, let me get, give me a break. And so she like said something back that was very funny. And we just like had a little bit. And I was like, so Hannah's friend is my friend too.

• 15:18Hannah Berner?

  Well, it's funny because Gabby loves you, but Gabby like respects our marriage. And also like, it needs to be like you, I don't know, you guys haven't met in person.

• 15:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I know.

• 15:28Hannah Berner?

  So it gets like kind of weird. So Gabby's always like, this page like me. I'm like, she loves you. It's just, you never met.

• 15:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Anytime I scroll a clip of hers, I always hit a like, because I'm like, that's my, I'm supporting my friend's friend.

• 15:40Hannah Berner?

  It's a family tree.

• 15:42Paige DeSorbo?

  That's my friend in law. That's my literal friend in law. And that's like a funny thing when you like meet a friend through a friend. There is that respect of like, that's my friend's friend.

• 15:55Hannah Berner?

  But also there's a certain kind of friend where you're like, if you hadn't met her first, I would have been your friend too. And I approve of you.

• 16:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 16:02Hannah Berner?

  And but I just surround myself with hot blondes.

• 16:07Paige DeSorbo?

  You're no better than a man. You're no better than a man. I actually, you know what? We give a lot of hate to men, but I'm quite misogynistic. Like, there are so many times where I'm like, you could have put makeup on. Smile. You're not having a good time?

• 16:23Hannah Berner?

  I did get on my TikTok, someone was like, where have all the size eights gone? And I said, babe, I've been here. Whatever happened to having some ovaries?

• 16:36Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what I always think about? And I want to say it was like 2013 and it was Jessica Simpson. I think she had like just had a baby like a month prior. And they attacked her. And like you look at those pictures now and you're like, so she was a size six, you freak.

• 16:51Hannah Berner?

  There was drama too about like Amy Schumer when she was doing all those movies. And she was like, I'm the ugly fat girl. And everyone's like, you are beautiful blonde.

• 17:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:00Hannah Berner?

  Size eight.

• 17:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:02Hannah Berner?

  And everyone's like, look at this fat girl who's starring.

• 17:05Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's great.

• 17:06Hannah Berner?

  Starring in a movie. Thank God she's funny because if she wasn't funny, no one would have put her anywhere.

• 17:12Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so true.

• 17:13Hannah Berner?

  And Amy had to play the like.

• 17:17Hannah Berner?

  But that is what Giggly Squad is about, and I hate to say it, and I'm so biased about the gigglers, but it's just a bunch of like really hot, funny women who listen to our pod. And I've done the research. I've been in the bathroom. I see who comes in and says hi to me. Someone said that me in public bathrooms is Amy Poehler. Grace reposted it. Amy Poehler wearing the Jeremy hat. Anyway, I'll see you guys in the bathroom.

• 17:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Anywho, um, wait, that couple I was talking about last episode that broke up because the husband cheated, they're like a TikTok couple. Uh, I wasn't like fully invested in the couple when they were posting, but I knew of them on TikTok, whatever. And she would post cute, like funny videos of like, she would go to like a shoe store and be like, oh, I'm getting these new shoes. And then she would just like run down the aisle and be like, oh, okay. Yeah, I'm going to get them. Like stupid little videos. So it comes out that her husband that she's been with since she was 14 years old, they had like just done a post that they had been together now longer than they've been apart.

• 18:18Paige DeSorbo?

  They have two kids together, comes out that he had cheated on her. She immediately files for divorce. Like she's gone. The internet's like, and women, like you should take a page out of her book. That's how you do it. You absolutely leave immediately.

• 18:30Hannah Berner?

  Stop judging how women deal with their men. But anyway, continue.

• 18:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Nada, 24 hours later, the internet had complete, completely flipped on her. Well, she's actually annoying and her videos were never funny. Imagine being married to her and having to deal with that.

• 18:43Hannah Berner?

  She's the problem.

• 18:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And the women were like, she makes like 10 mil a year. I'm sure he was fine laughing in a couple of videos. They have completely flipped on her. And now it's like, well, he probably just like got really annoyed and that's why he cheated. So like, I get it.

• 18:59Hannah Berner?

  Not as, this is our second episode getting messy, but like the algorithms are controlling our lives.

• 19:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so scary.

• 19:06Hannah Berner?

  And the, when people, people aren't even, I don't think care that much. They just want attention. So when they see someone jumping on a bandwagon, they will post like this bad, like angry take on someone because they know it'll get views. So we're in this like anger economy of like whoever's calling people out gets the most views. And it's like, the next you know, everyone's just attacking everyone and it's a civil war. Okay.

• 19:29Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why like I love Amy's pod. Yeah. That's no, that's why I'm so happy Amy Poehler won the Golden Globe because her hour of her podcast truly is a true escape.

• 19:42Hannah Berner?

  Rainbows, lollipops, joy.

• 19:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, what's next on the docket?

• 19:47Hannah Berner?

  I have a lot. Okay, this is gonna piss you off.

• 19:52Hannah Berner?

  Have you heard the Stranger Things drama?

• 19:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, what is it?

• 19:55Hannah Berner?

  So I haven't watched it.

• 19:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I stopped after season one, episode two, so yeah.

• 20:00Hannah Berner?

  I stopped after, I think, season two. But I support Millie Bob Brown, obviously. So the last episode, everyone is like, the last couple of episodes, but for sure the last episode, people are like, it's like diabolically bad, like the writing.

• 20:17Paige DeSorbo?

  The last season.

• 20:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like the writing is off. It just seems like a different show, like, like worse than like Game of Thrones. They were like, oh, I didn't like the decision, but this was like, something was wrong.

• 20:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Like the dialogue was like, that doesn't sound like that character. Yeah.

• 20:29Hannah Berner?

  So they realize that the writer of the show, who's been like, considered like one of the greatest writers of all time, whatever, in TV,

• 20:40Hannah Berner?

  got a divorce.

• 20:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 20:42Hannah Berner?

  From his wife.

• 20:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 20:44Hannah Berner?

  During the time that it still wasn't finished being written. And people are now realizing that she was like, probably, and this is a legend.

• 20:53Paige DeSorbo?

  A ghostwriter.

• 20:53Hannah Berner?

  She was a ghostwriter, because I think she's a writer as well. So people are like, it's, they're just looking at the timelines and they're like, when she left him, he wasn't done writing the show. And the show ended like shit. So what do we do with that information? So anyway.

• 21:11Paige DeSorbo?

  If I had a nickel. If I had a motherfucking nickel.

• 21:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, keep going.

• 21:18Hannah Berner?

  No, that's.

• 21:19Paige DeSorbo?

  That's it. Okay.

• 21:20Hannah Berner?

  Just wanted to piss you off.

• 21:21Paige DeSorbo?

  When you were talking about it, I thought you were gonna say, because I then remembered I saw something that people thought it was ChatGPT.

• 21:28Hannah Berner?

  Which, you know, we can add that to the flame.

• 21:31Paige DeSorbo?

  The only writer that I acknowledge is Shonda, Shonda fucking Ryan. I'm sorry. If that many shows can come out of one human, she is my ChatGPT.

• 21:42Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 21:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I think that that, how do you, we've never talked about this. Let's get into some fintech. How do you feel about like if there's like AI actresses or like if a show is completely written by chat GPT? Like, I almost borderline think it should be like illegal.

• 22:00Hannah Berner?

  Well, it's just really depressing. And I come from like the creative background where a lot of the comics were like, well, they'll never replace humor. They never replace humor, but these motherfuckers are getting smart. Like they're they're getting smarter every.

• 22:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Except then they're also super dumb. Like there's a video clip going around that if you ask chat GPT like to spell strawberry, it spells it wrong.

• 22:23Hannah Berner?

  Well, because it's pulling from sources from humans and humans aren't.

• 22:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Smart.

• 22:28Hannah Berner?

  Smart.

• 22:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And it and it goes based off.

• 22:31Hannah Berner?

  It's algorithmic, yeah.

• 22:33Paige DeSorbo?

  So like it learns you, so it knows what to say. It's very scary.

• 22:37Hannah Berner?

  It starts to tell you what you want to hear.

• 22:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, and that's why men are getting in relationships with them. So that then that's not a myth.

• 22:45Hannah Berner?

  I'm I'm scared about it.

• 22:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm scared about it.

• 22:48Hannah Berner?

  We're scared about it. I saw iRobot. I mean.

• 22:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:54Hannah Berner?

  That's all that's all I'm going to say about that. Um, also, we did.

• 22:58Paige DeSorbo?

  And then they and then they're gonna think they're gonna start making them look like Megan Fox. Get the fuck out of my home, literally. You think I'm bringing in a Megan Fox AI bot into my home?

• 23:10Hannah Berner?

  Also, Megan Fox better get her money for that if they're using her facial features.

• 23:14Paige DeSorbo?

  They made that movie. I mean, she played it, but like.

• 23:16Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I missed that one.

• 23:17Paige DeSorbo?

  That's okay.

• 23:18Hannah Berner?

  I was there's also the.

• 23:19Paige DeSorbo?

  It's okay.

• 23:23Paige DeSorbo?

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• 24:06Paige DeSorbo?

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• 24:49Paige DeSorbo?

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• 25:29Paige DeSorbo?

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• 26:26Paige DeSorbo?

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• 27:28Hannah Berner?

  Wait, a giggler messaged me and just said, I don't know if this is true, but she said to me that she was getting jury duty. And you know where they ask like questions?

• 27:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I screenshotted it. I screenshotted it.

• 27:41Hannah Berner?

  I screenshotted it too.

• 27:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And I DM'd her back. I was like, I'm crying. Okay, so a giggler DM'd us and goes, hey, funny story, I got jury duty. And they ask you a series of questions. And one of the questions was, what's your favorite podcast? She said, Giggly Squad, immediately dismissed.

• 28:01Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, you're too powerful.

• 28:02Hannah Berner?

  Shout out Ruth Fernandez, who sent it to us.

• 28:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you want to know? Okay. Have you ever had jury duty?

• 28:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I got dismissed.

• 28:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you ever had jury duty?

• 28:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 28:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, I've only ever had it one time. I was also dismissed, but it's not the people, it's not the government that picks. It's the lawyers, the opposite, what is that, the defendants? They are picking the jury, not the prosecutor. So I wonder.

• 28:32Hannah Berner?

  Puts on glasses, suddenly knows Law and Order.

• 28:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I got out of it because I said, my brother is a lawyer and he works for the people. And so I am biased toward that, whatever. Got me right out of there.

• 28:45Hannah Berner?

  If you want to get out of jury duty, just say you listen to Giggly Squad.

• 28:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I wonder if they know, like, Giggly Squad is so anti.

• 28:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Like men, if the case was like something with like, it's obviously it was probably a guy.

• 29:00Hannah Berner?

  I mean, it was a guy.

• 29:01Paige DeSorbo?

  They commit a hundred percent of the crimes. And so I wonder if they were like, no, she's so pro women.

• 29:08Hannah Berner?

  I don't know, but it just made me really proud.

• 29:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Same. I read it in my like bed the other night and I was like, that's beautiful. And also there's no better feeling than getting dismissed from jury duty. You're like, see you later suckers.

• 29:20Hannah Berner?

  Then everyone goes, how do I get out of it? And then you, you feel like you're in some kind of like Jumanji.

• 29:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 29:26Hannah Berner?

  And.

• 29:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I called every lawyer I freaking knew when I got jury duty.

• 29:31Hannah Berner?

  Well, this was my problem when I got jury duty is I had an hourly job.

• 29:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 29:36Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. When they were like, okay, you have to be here for two weeks for like a hundred bucks. I was like, I'm actually losing money. But then I, I feel like.

• 29:45Paige DeSorbo?

  They should round up all the male loneliness. Make them the jury, put them to work. They're the, that's camaraderie.

• 29:53Hannah Berner?

  But then there's people with jobs who like, they can't just leave for two weeks.

• 29:56Paige DeSorbo?

  It's also people are like caretakers, like they really can't leave, like moms, really who is watching the kids.

• 30:02Hannah Berner?

  Every now and then there's a case that you know, you're like, this is gonna be good. And I'm sad.

• 30:08Paige DeSorbo?

  On that note, one time my eyelash lady had jury duty and let me tell you, that couple of weeks of getting my eyelashes done, no teeth, no teeth like I've ever heard before. And funnily enough, she was doing a juror case for a murder. Okay. She's, now this is highly illegal. She's telling me and my mom all of it.

• 30:29Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 30:29Paige DeSorbo?

  My mom goes, wait a second, I think I know that guy. My mom knew the guy randomly who was on trial for murder.

• 30:40Hannah Berner?

  Well, Kim runs in some sketchy circles.

• 30:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm pretty sure he like murdered his, murdered his wife.

• 30:46Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 30:46Paige DeSorbo?

  In jail.

• 30:47Hannah Berner?

  I mean, nine out of 10 times.

• 30:49Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, you're never gonna get. And that was my introduction to jury duty.

• 30:53Hannah Berner?

  This is my thing though, when I had jury duty and it was literally like some guy like probably like, didn't give the book back to the library in time. I'm like, I'm not staying here for this shit. I want murder. I want cults.

• 31:03Paige DeSorbo?

  No, my New York.

• 31:04Hannah Berner?

  Kidnapping.

• 31:05Paige DeSorbo?

  My New York City one was crazy. It was like a, an assault on like an old lady, this guy. And they lived in the same building. It was a really crazy case and I was like, wanted to know what ended up happening, but I was like, I gotta go. But I will say in jury, when I went, when I did jury duty, and this was probably like five, six years ago. I was very unimpressed by the way the people dressed. I was like, guys, this is the one chance we get.

• 31:30Hannah Berner?

  We're sitting on monogamy.

• 31:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, guys, Reese Witherspoon is somewhere really disappointed in all of you.

• 31:36Hannah Berner?

  We're on display.

• 31:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's like we're cosplaying. Like, do it for a couple of days.

• 31:42Hannah Berner?

  Do you want to hear something so embarrassing? I was like, I'm literally going back to the time, my Georgie, I was like 24, 25. And I guess I might have had a boyfriend at the time, and I got to jury duty and realized I hadn't taken my birth control that morning. And it was that time in your life where you think that like, even if you have protected sex, you're gonna have a baby. Turns out, much more complicated to get pregnant.

• 32:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Turns out, no. Turns out, you actually need a needle, you need to inject yourself with some shit. Yeah.

• 32:10Hannah Berner?

  I realized that I'm like locked in this place, and I like was freaking out that I need to take my birth control. And I started to like, potentially have a panic attack, because I was like, I'm gonna get pregnant, because I'm forced to be in this law building during, and they're not gonna let me out. And I almost went to the top to be like, I have to get birth control. But then I was like, fuck it, I'll just have a teen pregnancy at 24. And, but I didn't get pregnant, so I just wanted to tell everyone.

• 32:34Paige DeSorbo?

  We're so happy. Wait, speaking of having a panic attack, I know you tried to watch Tell Me Lies, and you couldn't get through it.

• 32:42Hannah Berner?

  If you want to tell them why.

• 32:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Why?

• 32:46Hannah Berner?

  I watched only 10 seconds. I just didn't think he was cute.

• 32:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah, Hannah didn't think Steven was hot enough to be.

• 32:51Hannah Berner?

  But I don't know his personality yet. I know he's like a douche, so.

• 32:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I told you, it gets, he gets so much hotter.

• 32:56Hannah Berner?

  Because he lies to everyone?

• 32:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 33:02Hannah Berner?

  See, I'm in this place where I'm like, he, I don't like his, I don't like it. But they're dating in real life. Is that what makes it like even like more, more depth?

• 33:13Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you don't really think about it when, because like when the first season came out, you didn't know they were dating in real life, I don't think.

• 33:20Hannah Berner?

  Oh, they dated before the show?

• 33:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I think they started dating like.

• 33:23Hannah Berner?

  Also, let's be honest, anyone who's dating someone on a show, like in the storyline, they're actually dating, they tell their partners they're not. You're fully method acting dating someone.

• 33:33Paige DeSorbo?

  It is funny to watch him in interviews, because he does seem so nice. Like, he could not be more opposite. But in the new season, if you haven't watched it, clip through this, because I'm gonna do some spoilers. The first three episodes are out of the third season. In one of the episodes, Grace, um, she plays a character, her name's Lucy, ha- is having a panic attack, but she doesn't know what it is.

• 33:59Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 34:00Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's, the way she acted it was so spot on. I actually had to turn the volume down because I was like, oh, I actually can't listen to her right now. Because I'm getting like, she's like, oh, something is weird. Like my hands are, my hands are numb. And she's like, my, my chat. And I'm like, oh my God, she's having a panic attack because he's ruining her life. And it was such, I mean, like, I just think every girl has experienced that. No matter if it's in your twenties and your thirties, like a moment where you're like, what's going on?

• 34:32Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. And you're like, I, what, what's, where's this coming from? And it's like, oh, everything.

• 34:35Paige DeSorbo?

  And she's like, well, I did drugs two days ago. Maybe, maybe it's that. Maybe it's like coming out of my, and you think of all these different things. And you're just like, hey babe, you're ruining your life.

• 34:44Hannah Berner?

  I was like, you're not depressed. It's the man in your phone.

• 34:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And this season is particularly fucked up. Like Steven plays a really like, but you know, a guy like that, which is the craziest part.

• 34:56Hannah Berner?

  Steven with a V or a P H?

• 34:57Paige DeSorbo?

  P H.

• 35:00Hannah Berner?

  Don't like that at all.

• 35:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Oh, see, I prefer P H over V.

• 35:04Hannah Berner?

  Well, is it Stefan or Steven?

• 35:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I would say that's with an F.

• 35:10Hannah Berner?

  Stefan.

• 35:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Stefan.

• 35:14Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, male names in general are like, it's, I, it's hard. I feel like, do you get a lot of gigglers DM you about baby names?

• 35:22Hannah Berner?

  Not one.

• 35:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Really? Because I would say it once a week. Um, I'm going, send me some other inspo. And I'm not loving that.

• 35:31Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you asked them to send you baby names?

• 35:34Paige DeSorbo?

  No, they send me a list and they're like, of these four, what are your favorite?

• 35:37Hannah Berner?

  Oh, for them naming their child.

• 35:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:40Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, no, I forgot.

• 35:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, that's like, I would say, I'd say 14% of my DMs is being like, I don't love that middle name with that first.

• 35:48Hannah Berner?

  I do get a lot of, what should I name this kitten?

• 35:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:52Hannah Berner?

  And I'm like, Oreo, obviously. Or like Mr. Mr., you know.

• 35:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Schnibble.

• 35:59Hannah Berner?

  Something insane.

• 36:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 36:00Hannah Berner?

  I'm like Lofer. That's what you name it.

• 36:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait.

• 36:04Hannah Berner?

  Adorable. Just think of a random noun. It's adorable. Yeah. Hashtag. Hash Brown. I actually watched a insane documentary about the Judd family. Oh. Are you familiar with the lore of the Judd family? I'm, I'm a little bit familiar with the Judds. So there's the mom. Yep.

• 36:28Hannah Berner?

  Stunning gorgeous. Had a different name. Mm hmm. But then she changed her name.

• 36:35Hannah Berner?

  What is her name?

• 36:38Hannah Berner?

  It's something gorgeous. Winona? Nope, that's the daughter. Oh, Ashley's the other daughter. And then, we'll insert it right here. Oh, what? It's like Naomi. Yeah. Naomi, okay, so we got Naomi and Winona. Yes. Okay, so Naomi gets pregnant at eighteen and her mother. With Winona. Yes. Yeah. And her mother, and she's not married, her mother locks the door and is basically like, you're not welcome in this house. You've had a baby out of wedlock. Mm hmm. So she doesn't. Cause they're from like Texas, right? They're from somewhere in the south. Yeah, but she's like not really into this guy she got pregnant with, but instead she's like, okay, I guess I have to fucking marry this guy.

• 37:21Hannah Berner?

  So she marries this guy and she's not even like that into him. And she wants to be a movie star, but she's like, I just got pregnant at eighteen, like this fucking sucks. And then she gets pregnant again, as you do back in the day. Um, and then she has Ashley. Yep.

• 37:44Hannah Berner?

  And then she divorces this guy. She's like, I hate you. Yeah. But they move to LA. Okay. She meets another abusive boyfriend, gets out of it. But she realizes that Winona is amazing at singing. Mm hmm. So she like full, she's like a momager. And she's like, I'm gonna get this girl famous. She's our ticket out. Yeah. And she goes to Nashville and, but Winona is opposite of her. Winona's not into the glam, into the attention. She just happens to be a freakishly good singer. Yeah. And they like sing together and stuff. The mom was good too. Yeah, right. Okay. So what happens is like, Winona gets no.

• 38:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Press or accolades?

• 38:25Hannah Berner?

  No accolade, no anything.

• 38:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:27Hannah Berner?

  And but Naomi's knocking down doors and she's gorgeous and she's like, my daughter

• 38:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:33Hannah Berner?

  is gonna be the greatest, dah dah dah. Somehow people hear them singing together, because sometimes they sing together. And they're like, we want you two together.

• 38:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 38:43Hannah Berner?

  So they become this

• 38:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Like massive.

• 38:46Hannah Berner?

  Duo.

• 38:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:46Hannah Berner?

  Because no one's ever seen a mother, daughter, and they also like look the same.

• 38:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, redheads.

• 38:52Hannah Berner?

  Two redheads and they're spectacular. Meanwhile, Ashley Judd is just kind of left in a hotel room while this is happening. And Ashley is like, very depressed.

• 39:06Paige DeSorbo?

  What, how old is Ashley when like?

• 39:09Hannah Berner?

  Like sixteen.

• 39:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 39:10Hannah Berner?

  So she's like alone in a hotel room. And the other two are trying to like, but in Naomi's mind, she's like, I need to support my family. And Ashley's like, I don't have a family right now.

• 39:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't name one Ashley Judd movie, but I can picture them. I lo-, there was a period of time where I feel like she was in everything. I loved her as an actress.

• 39:30Hannah Berner?

  So she couldn't sing.

• 39:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 39:32Hannah Berner?

  Which I, I feel connected with.

• 39:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 39:34Hannah Berner?

  Because my mom's a great singer and everyone's like, why don't you sing with your mom? And I'm like,

• 39:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 39:38Hannah Berner?

  Not happening. So Ashley Judd could have joined the family thing, but she can't sing. So then she's like, I'm going to be an actress. And she like becomes a fucking huge Hollywood actress. Winona and the mom are getting like huge. So as a family, they just became like huge. But actually, the tea is apparently Ashley Judd said no to Harvey Weinstein and he fucked her career.

• 40:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, wow, that's so interesting.

• 40:08Hannah Berner?

  I was dropping bombs today.

• 40:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I was just gonna say, I, why did Ashley fall off? Yeah, I feel like late nineties. No, probably like mid all of the nineties.

• 40:19Hannah Berner?

  It was the classic, she had a meeting with him at some office. They go, oh, he canceled. Can you meet him at his hotel? She goes, okay. They, she gets the hotel, like, what restaurant are we meeting at? They're like, just go to his room. She goes to his room and she ends up like getting out.

• 40:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:36Hannah Berner?

  But like, the damage was done.

• 40:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:38Hannah Berner?

  And he obviously was like, well, you're not cooperating.

• 40:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:42Hannah Berner?

  But um. Fast forward. Naomi, the mom, starts having like really bad panic attacks and depression and just like, this is kind of dark.

• 40:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 40:56Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I'm taking you on a world. Sorry, guys.

• 40:59Paige DeSorbo?

  So we started having so much fun. Four episodes. Hannah, wait, I've been, I've been actually, I've been meaning to tell you this.

• 41:06Hannah Berner?

  Her whole life, all she wanted to do was be in the National, the Country Music Hall of Fame. And she gets asked, and then like the day before she does it.

• 41:15Paige DeSorbo?

  What year was that?

• 41:17Hannah Berner?

  In the 90s or the early 2000s.

• 41:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Naomi died in, in 2022.

• 41:25Hannah Berner?

  Oh, she just died.

• 41:26Paige DeSorbo?

  She just died, but did she, but she committed suicide?

• 41:29Hannah Berner?

  But what happened is, and I want to speak on her as like she.

• 41:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, that's so sad.

• 41:36Hannah Berner?

  She's so fucking strong. She finds out.

• 41:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Winona Judd is still alive. She's 61.

• 41:42Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, through like therapy and stuff, she finds out that she was, she went through really traumatic stuff when she was like three years old and she never dealt with it. So like in her later years, it started just like coming up. And she started just having like all these panic attacks of like suppressed stuff.

• 42:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Where the Heart Is, that's the movie I couldn't think of the name of. Ashley, have you ever seen that with Natalie Portman and Ashley Judd?

• 42:11Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 42:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, it's one of the best movies of all time.

• 42:14Hannah Berner?

  Such a time of movies.

• 42:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Movies, do you want to know why? Because I genuinely think there were more movies geared toward women. Like everything now, when you go, that's why I'm like, it's so annoying. I don't watch movies, I feel like as much. Everything on like Amazon is like a thriller, like, uh, I'm like, I don't want a thriller. I want like a cute rom com.

• 42:36Hannah Berner?

  Well, again, rom coms were at their height during that time. They're at their peak. But anyway, the.

• 42:42Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why I feel like I'm so obsessed with Kate Hudson. Because like when I think Kate Hudson, I think fun and like a rom commie and.

• 42:51Hannah Berner?

  She is hilarious. People don't talk about how she's so funny.

• 42:53Paige DeSorbo?

  People don't talk about how funny she is and people don't talk about, people don't talk enough about Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell. They just don't discuss them enough.

• 43:02Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 43:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Never been married and to each other, been together, the longest couple literally in Hollywood history.

• 43:11Hannah Berner?

  And they stay out of the limelight.

• 43:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Stay out of the limelight. They live in Aspen. They have like

• 43:15Hannah Berner?

  They live in Aspen.

• 43:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, they're very sheik honey. They have like

• 43:18Hannah Berner?

  Snowbirds.

• 43:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Massive, like big winter parties.

• 43:22Hannah Berner?

  Oh, for, for, for, um, but overall, just to wrap, the Judd family is like a very inspirational, beautiful story of motherhood and the connection of your mother and daughters and how your mom,

• 43:38Hannah Berner?

  it's her first time living too.

• 43:39Paige DeSorbo?

  No, whenever I see that, like, and don't forget it's your mom's first time living too. It makes me really sad. Cause like you think about all the times you were like, mom, you're annoying. You know how everything is like cyclical?

• 43:50Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 43:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I do feel like our generation specifically, like, and not even generation. I mean, like thirty three to thirty, like seven, I feel like us being parents is gonna be very nineties.

• 44:05Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 44:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't care what you do, go.

• 44:07Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 44:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I feel like that's gonna be the vibe.

• 44:09Hannah Berner?

  You have to teach your kids how to self soothe.

• 44:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, like, you see all these things where it's like, screen time, screen time, iPad, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

• 44:18Hannah Berner?

  We're going back to flip phones.

• 44:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And then you see all these parents being like, no, like go outside and no phone and all of that stuff. I can't imagine how hard it is to be a parent of like a tween right now, like thirteen to six, oh.

• 44:33Hannah Berner?

  But no phones is like definitely getting back. So it's kind of like how when we were growing up, TV was like the evil.

• 44:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 44:41Hannah Berner?

  Where now people are like, get off your phone, watch TV. Like, just watch TV, stop looking at your phone all the time.

• 44:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, no. Kim's biggest worry were the Rugrats. Oh, Angelica wasn't nice enough? Well, buckle up.

• 44:51Hannah Berner?

  My mom would be like, oh, you can't watch Wishbone. I'm like, it's an educational show. And she's like, you're not watching TV right now. Go outside.

• 44:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Loved Wishbone.

• 45:00Hannah Berner?

  We also sometimes we'd only be able to watch TV on the weekends in the morning and then we had to run around. Like weekend morning, we could watch SpongeBob.

• 45:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't remember.

• 45:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't remember my mom ever being like, no, go play. Like you wanted to play.

• 45:16Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah.

• 45:17Paige DeSorbo?

  You know?

• 45:17Hannah Berner?

  But also, I remember, because my parents were kind of strict with TV, like that was what they would take away.

• 45:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 45:22Hannah Berner?

  When I'd like.

• 45:23Paige DeSorbo?

  You live now as an adult with no TV in your bedroom.

• 45:26Hannah Berner?

  I didn't know you were allowed to.

• 45:28Paige DeSorbo?

  So they, they must have done something, right?

• 45:30Hannah Berner?

  Literally didn't know you were allowed to. But I remember I'd like go to my, on Fridays in, what was this, like elementary school? Where you'd go to rent a movie and you're like, tonight we're watching.

• 45:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 45:41Hannah Berner?

  Or I'd go to my, like pick up my friend in the morning and we'd watch TV together, like Saved by the Bell or like.

• 45:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow, I was never in morning TV.

• 45:49Hannah Berner?

  It was like you get in a little fucking, a little.

• 45:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Person.

• 45:52Hannah Berner?

  You get a little snort in the morning of something naughty.

• 45:56Hannah Berner?

  Wait, can I say a celebrity couple that isn't?

• 45:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 45:59Hannah Berner?

  Talked about enough?

• 46:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 46:01Hannah Berner?

  Enrique Iglesias and Anna Kournikova.

• 46:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 46:06Hannah Berner?

  How have they been able to stay out of the press?

• 46:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, where are they?

• 46:09Hannah Berner?

  So when anyone says, oh, the, the press just love them. Anna Kournikova, the most beautiful, most talented woman in the world. And Enrique Iglesias, the most beautiful, most talented, um, man in the world, who's so beautiful, he could be a woman, um, they're together.

• 46:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, well, I think they're married and have kids.

• 46:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 46:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Where do they live?

• 46:27Hannah Berner?

  Peaceful life. I feel like they would live in Miami.

• 46:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like they would live in Florida too.

• 46:32Hannah Berner?

  Or who knows?

• 46:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Tennis all year round.

• 46:34Hannah Berner?

  Who knows?

• 46:35Paige DeSorbo?

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• 48:05Paige DeSorbo?

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• 48:48Paige DeSorbo?

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• 49:30Paige DeSorbo?

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• 50:19Hannah Berner?

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• 51:03Hannah Berner?

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• 51:15Paige DeSorbo?

  One thing I wanted to say when we were talking about country music, because this was so Giggly Squad coded, did you know that? Where's the theater we played in Nashville?

• 51:23Hannah Berner?

  Oh. We played in

• 51:26Paige DeSorbo?

  The Grand Grand Old

• 51:27Hannah Berner?

  Grand Old Opry. Grand Ole Opry.

• 51:30Paige DeSorbo?

  They threw Dolly Parton a birthday party and they said, hey, we're gonna throw, we're gonna have it here at the very prestigious.

• 51:37Hannah Berner?

  It's the most famous theater in all of Nashville.

• 51:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And for all of country music, she said.

• 51:41Hannah Berner?

  My show Nashville started at the Grand Ole Opry.

• 51:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and it's a very, very big deal. Dolly Parton goes, amazing, thank you for having that party. I certainly won't be there, but have the best time ever. And I just feel like that is so, like, if I could predict what the gigglers are gonna be like when they're in their 80s, it's that. It's like, oh, my God, thank you so much for the recognition. I'm certainly not gonna be there. Have the best time.

• 52:11Hannah Berner?

  Wait, it's so badass that you know you don't have to be there and people would still be excited to go to a party just with your name on it. Like, she's like, you can celebrate me, but I'm, I'm good.

• 52:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that. I'm like, I feel like I'm gonna start doing that for my birthday. I'm just gonna be, I'm just gonna throw parties for my birthday and watch it on Instagram.

• 52:29Hannah Berner?

  Well, that was my favorite dinner when I threw a dinner and then I didn't show up because my, I had a scratchy throat. And everyone sent me photos and I said, please stop sending me photos from the event. Thank you.

• 52:41Hannah Berner?

  I know I'm getting older.

• 52:44Hannah Berner?

  Because I'm very into lamps.

• 52:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:48Hannah Berner?

  And the algorithm knows.

• 52:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, nothing like a good lamp.

• 52:51Hannah Berner?

  And they know I'm, it's like porn where like at first you're like, this is cute. And then you're like, I need to see some crazy shit like. They know not to show me normal lamps anymore. I need some like chrome fucking mid, mid-century modern. I need some fucking weird bases. I need some like abstract. I need some crazy shit.

• 53:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm, I'm gonna be honest, I've, I've, I've sensed this day coming with you. Because you, you love vintage, you love thrifting, you love like, oh, I'm gonna like run into this little store. But now we're getting older. You're needle pointing, you're like, you're going to dinner at 5pm with your husband. It was a matter of time until you said, hey, check out this end table. This'll really put you in a coma.

• 53:40Hannah Berner?

  Two years ago, I couldn't spell sconce. Now I have a Pinterest board of only sconces and I have opinions.

• 53:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't even know what a sconce was.

• 53:48Hannah Berner?

  I didn't know what a sconce was. Do I know how to put it together? No, that was intimidating for me.

• 53:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Sconces will change the whole room.

• 53:53Hannah Berner?

  Sconces will change the room.

• 53:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't get me started on my crown molding in my, in my apartment because it's a gen- a true work of art.

• 54:01Hannah Berner?

  You know what's amazing about a light? It not only brings so much value to the home and the ambiance, but it also is fully a design piece. It's two in one.

• 54:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm very, um, I love like the sixties era. I love sixties fashion, like anything like Palm Royale, like Kristen Wiig, that show.

• 54:21Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 54:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that. I love miniskirts. I love boots.

• 54:24Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 54:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I love big hair like that. And I love like the Mad Men, the decorations. Like I love when a room looks like seventies vibe.

• 54:36Hannah Berner?

  I love seventies. Do you remember the rooms where they just had a gossip like?

• 54:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Pit.

• 54:40Hannah Berner?

  Pit?

• 54:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you know they're coming back?

• 54:42Hannah Berner?

  Okay, cuz.

• 54:43Paige DeSorbo?

  They actually said our generation brought back interior designers. That like it had like fallen off a little, was like really only for the rich at one point.

• 54:53Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 54:53Paige DeSorbo?

  And our generation has made it like, no, we really care about our homes.

• 54:57Hannah Berner?

  But I do have to say, I think there is somewhere in the marketplace, cuz as someone who's like dabbled and looking at interior design, it's fucking

• 55:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Hard.

• 55:08Hannah Berner?

  expensive. And then also it's, it's like styling where it's like super expensive. Plus like obviously you have your own taste.

• 55:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 55:15Hannah Berner?

  So like it's so expensive to possibly not like it. And I know so many people who are like adults who've had like bad experiences with it.

• 55:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 55:23Hannah Berner?

  But I want those, I feel like there's an opportunity for like a girl who's like doing well in her thirties financially to be able to hire an interior designer that isn't like for like millionaires.

• 55:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Well, because it's such an art.

• 55:39Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 55:39Paige DeSorbo?

  It really is.

• 55:40Hannah Berner?

  I just honestly, like I would love just someone's taste cuz I know what I like, but I don't know how to put it together.

• 55:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 55:45Hannah Berner?

  Like I'm like, yes, that's perfect. But if someone's like start from scratch, I like, I'm like, I like lamps.

• 55:55Hannah Berner?

  But babe, once you start seeing lamps, you can't unsee it. And one bad lamp can ruin a room. This is like how you talk about someone's like shoe. That's how I speak about lamps.

• 56:07Paige DeSorbo?

  A shoe really can ruin a whole entire outfit.

• 56:11Hannah Berner?

  You go, as we can see here.

• 56:14Paige DeSorbo?

  As we've learned today.

• 56:16Hannah Berner?

  Actually, these are my Lululemon shoes.

• 56:17Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I like those sneakers.

• 56:19Hannah Berner?

  They're very comfortable.

• 56:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, I was just gonna say something, shoot. What were we talking about before your lamp? Before we got on that riveting conversation. This is being in your 30s with your friend. Like, oh, my God, forgot to tell you. Saw a lamp the other day.

• 56:35Hannah Berner?

  Am I crazy for liking this lamp? Or do you like this lamp too?

• 56:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Like 10 years ago, I'd be like, what is my career now? What is my job?

• 56:44Hannah Berner?

  I did learn a new word. The Gen Z's are saying.

• 56:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, God.

• 56:48Hannah Berner?

  Choppelganger.

• 56:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Ch- spell it?

• 56:51Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 56:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect.

• 56:53Hannah Berner?

  So choppelganger is like.

• 56:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Chop?

• 56:56Hannah Berner?

  So it's a thing which.

• 56:57Paige DeSorbo?

  C-H-O-P?

• 56:58Hannah Berner?

  I would, C-H-O-P. I'd love to use this more, but it's like, she's chopped. I think it might mean ugly or bad.

• 57:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 57:08Hannah Berner?

  Like he's chopped, they're chopped, they're chopped.

• 57:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:11Hannah Berner?

  So choppelganger basically is like a doppelganger. If it's like the ugly version. So like, you know, you'll see like a guy and you're like, oh, he's the Walmart version of Glenn Powell. Or like, he looks like Pedro Pascal if he was microwaved. Now you just say like, he's a choppelganger of.

• 57:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Gen Z needs to hit the box.

• 57:32Hannah Berner?

  I just can't, choppelganger, I guess, but you know what it is?

• 57:35Paige DeSorbo?

  It's too much of a.

• 57:36Hannah Berner?

  Cause they don't, they don't come up with words for, I think, day to day. They come up with it for Instagram captions. Like slay is like fun on Instagram caption, but saying slay all day, slay all the time.

• 57:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:51Hannah Berner?

  Like it doesn't.

• 57:52Paige DeSorbo?

  If I want to take myself seriously, I can't say slay in a normal conversation of someone that's. I have to read the room. Like I can't go up to my doorman and be like, slay. You know, I could, but I'm in a, I would like to be taken seriously sometimes.

• 58:11Hannah Berner?

  Fashion is funny, though, where like they love a word that means like, you know how like everyone was saying major like in 2019.

• 58:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that was like the Rachel Zoe effect had a really big impact on us. Actually, Tinks made a TikTok the other day talking about like trends in general and how like the 2016s and us trends would last so much longer.

• 58:33Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 58:34Paige DeSorbo?

  She was saying how like you'd wait for your favorite influencer to post and then you would look up like the bathing suit they were wearing and it was such a different

• 58:44Hannah Berner?

  Sweet time.

• 58:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I feel like we need to get back to that. Like, the trends can't change so quickly.

• 58:51Hannah Berner?

  Where were you in 2016?

• 58:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Not a good place. 2016, I lived here for like a full year, lived in New York City for a full year. I was having the best time of my life. I was just going out and like, you want to know what it was at that time? Your job truly was just a job.

• 59:14Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 59:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you went Monday through Friday.

• 59:16Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 59:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Once the clock hits 6:00 PM and you were out of there, you were fully in your personal life. Like now, our jobs are so intertwined with our personal life that I feel like we get like a snippet of being able to like go out on a Saturday night like once a month.

• 59:37Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 59:37Paige DeSorbo?

  But then.

• 59:37Hannah Berner?

  And you still feel like, should I be posting or people posting?

• 59:41Paige DeSorbo?

  All I cared about at work all week, once it hit Monday, I was like, and what am I wearing Thursday night for drinks? Let me go on Pinterest now.

• 59:49Hannah Berner?

  That's amazing.

• 59:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Somebody said that Pinterest was possibly going away. And to that I say,

• 59:59Paige DeSorbo?

  a lot more murder per capita with women. I mean, I don't know. That's the only thing that calms me down.

• 1:00:03Hannah Berner?

  If women don't have Pinterest.

• 1:00:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you know how many times I've written up those angry text messages in my notes and said, you know what? I'm just gonna go on Pinterest.

• 1:00:17Paige DeSorbo?

  It's gonna be better.

• 1:00:19Hannah Berner?

  Ninety percent of serial killers are men because women can post quotes on Pinterest.

• 1:00:25Paige DeSorbo?

  And we can regulate. We can regulate our emotions. We can, we have enough deduction and reasoning to be like, that's crazy. Let me step away.

• 1:00:36Hannah Berner?

  In 2016, I was working for a t-shirt company and there were like four people working, like it was like a startup and I really was like.

• 1:00:45Paige DeSorbo?

  It's when you were like cold calling.

• 1:00:47Hannah Berner?

  This was after cold calling sales because I was like, I can't do the cold calling anymore. I want to do something creative. So I was like doing marketing, I guess. But my job was basically customer service. People would be like, where's my t-shirt? And I'd be like, have you looked next door? And they're like, no bitch. And I'm like, okay, I'll send you another one. Like, that's what I did. But I would pitch the, the founder who's sitting next to me, like all these like marketing ideas. And he basically like wouldn't listen to them. And then one day I was like, I've been here for a year, like, can I get a raise of some kind? And he was like, no. And then I was like, okay, I think I'm gonna quit because like this isn't going anywhere.

• 1:01:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:25Hannah Berner?

  And he looks at me and he was like, you know, because I was under 26 and he's like, if you had threatened to like make me pay health insurance, I would have given you more money. He said something so like diabolical where like I just felt like such a non-human, like just such an entity.

• 1:01:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:43Hannah Berner?

  And then I started, I started an Instagram called Forks and Fitness.

• 1:01:52Hannah Berner?

  Because it was F and F, you know?

• 1:01:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Where is this Instagram?

• 1:01:55Hannah Berner?

  I think it might have, it might still exist, but it also might have, I've definitely been logged out of it. But like occasionally I'll get an email, like a fake company being like, can we promote with Forks and Fitness? I had like 200 followers, but I was doing sports modeling. So it'd be like me posting me playing sports because I wanted to show that women could be strong.

• 1:02:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:14Hannah Berner?

  And then I showed like smoothie recipes and then I did motivational quotes.

• 1:02:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my Shaila.

• 1:02:24Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that is so sweet.

• 1:02:30Hannah Berner?

  Were you gonna say sad?

• 1:02:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna cry.

• 1:02:33Hannah Berner?

  Cause I wanted to show women being healthy and powerful, cause that's all I knew. And I was like, see, you could be strong. And I was like pitching, I was like, we need more women with muscle.

• 1:02:42Paige DeSorbo?

  We were doing mental health moments of the day.

• 1:02:45Hannah Berner?

  But it was funny, cause that's so like loss sounding, but like literally in a year, I was telling people I want to do video. I want to get into sports broadcasting. And the next thing you know, I got my job at Betches doing like video.

• 1:02:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 1:03:00Hannah Berner?

  But um.

• 1:03:01Paige DeSorbo?

  No, 2016 was like such a crazy town.

• 1:03:06Hannah Berner?

  See, 2017 was when I had my like, my like, relationship that like, gave me panic attacks.

• 1:03:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:13Hannah Berner?

  So 2016 was like my last year of like.

• 1:03:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Fun.

• 1:03:17Hannah Berner?

  Of being a baby.

• 1:03:18Paige DeSorbo?

  You know.

• 1:03:18Hannah Berner?

  Before, and then I'm just like, a man can ruin your mental health if you picked the wrong one.

• 1:03:23Paige DeSorbo?

  You really don't, yeah.

• 1:03:24Hannah Berner?

  Where at 2016, I was like, does anyone want to experience life with me?

• 1:03:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And then 2018, we met. And the world's never been the same.

• 1:03:31Hannah Berner?

  World's never been the same.

• 1:03:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait.

• 1:03:34Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I meant to say this in the beginning of the pod. Classic.

• 1:03:38Hannah Berner?

  Just remembered. Let's start over.

• 1:03:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's start over. Let's redo it. Um, we were talking about the Super Bowl. I'm going to be in a Super Bowl commercial, which you already know, but I want to tell the gigglers. And it was so, first when I got the call, I was like, guys, this is insane. What is the brand? Like, what is it for? And it's for Kinder Bueno, like chocolate? And it's so serendipitous, because when you go home to my parents' house, if you're staying at our home, if you're staying in like one of the guest rooms, in, on your night side bed table, there will always be snacks.

• 1:04:12Hannah Berner?

  Yes, and I've seen it.

• 1:04:13Paige DeSorbo?

  One of three snacks. There's either Nutella, Little Bites, or Cookies.

• 1:04:18Hannah Berner?

  Ferrero Rocher.

• 1:04:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Ferrero Rochers, or Kinder Bueno. Now, the funny part of this is, my mom doesn't know that they're all owned by the same company.

• 1:04:30Hannah Berner?

  Well, she has taste.

• 1:04:30Paige DeSorbo?

  She, she purely just has taste.

• 1:04:34Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 1:04:34Paige DeSorbo?

  They're also an Italian company, so low key, I think they were like, who can we tap in America that like, gives us the energy?

• 1:04:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, so anyway, so I filmed a commercial for the Super Bowl. I'm so excited. I actually haven't see, fully seen it yet. Um, but like, I think the announcement was coming out today. I in one line.

• 1:04:57Hannah Berner?

  Wait, how long it like, what is the, are you allowed to say any of the premise?

• 1:05:01Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know what I'm allowed to say yet, but it's, I want to say it's like a 30 second.

• 1:05:06Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like a very short part, but like it was still so fun.

• 1:05:11Hannah Berner?

  Who did you do it with?

• 1:05:13Paige DeSorbo?

  That I don't think I can say.

• 1:05:15Hannah Berner?

  Oh, okay. That's exciting.

• 1:05:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. So we'll say like, what it'll just be, it'll be fun.

• 1:05:20Hannah Berner?

  That's the thing. So everyone have a Kinder Bruno.

• 1:05:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Have a Kinder Bruno. And I will say after I got the call and my agent was like, you're going to film this commercial. I was so excited. And then I thought, hmm, what's an event that all my ex-boyfriends will be seated for? They'll be watching. Well, how can I harness all that energy? Oh, a Super Bowl commercial.

• 1:05:48Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say, I think the next step for me and you is really infiltrating sports. Um, it's been a sports podcast for a while.

• 1:05:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Last couple of years.

• 1:05:57Hannah Berner?

  Um, I also just want to throw something out there. I do believe I'm going to be involved with something with March Madness, which I know the men love. So let's just say, people are gonna be pissed.

• 1:06:07Paige DeSorbo?

  People are gonna be real, real mad. And by people, I mean the men. Yeah.

• 1:06:12Hannah Berner?

  I mean, about six or seven men that have crossed through my path.

• 1:06:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I have a quick list of seven men that I can't fucking wait for them to see me on that screen.

• 1:06:22Hannah Berner?

  You know, it's going to be an awkward conversation for someone that night.

• 1:06:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd actually like to throw them all in a group chat together and say, have at it.

• 1:06:30Paige DeSorbo?

  How have your lives all significantly gone down?

• 1:06:33Hannah Berner?

  Well, it is the classic Lady Gaga quote where it's like, wherever you go, you will see me. And some, there have been some safe spaces for men like the Super Bowl.

• 1:06:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:06:40Hannah Berner?

  But look, those spaces are weaning.

• 1:06:42Paige DeSorbo?

  But hey, I wasn't getting the full gusto I needed of the knife in. Yeah. And I needed to really twist it this year. Last year I was just knifing. This year I'm really cranking it. So I'm excited. Anyway, and that's where we'll end. That was a good mental health moment.

• 1:06:59Hannah Berner?

  So anyone use this as motivation to piss someone off. We love you so much. Have an amazing week. Oh, also I'm going to Idaho today. Like I have to leave this pod to go on my flight. Idaho. Oh my God, I have a run. Idaho, four places in Colorado, LA, San Francisco, Seattle. I gotta run. Um, we're back, we're back to work.

• 1:07:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:19Hannah Berner?

  Love you guys. Bye.

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