The Snack: Mercury Retrograde, Snow White Drama, and Family Vloggers

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: France wants the Statue of Liberty back Why Mercury Retrograde is so rough right now Materialists movie preview That insane White Lotus moment Snow White controversy Kim vs. Kanye and North West's trademark Are family vloggers shadily leaving California? Quick headlines (Bad Bunny, Tiger Woods, and more) Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Cymbiotika: Get 20% and free shipping at https://cymbiotika.com/girlsgottaeat. Bilt: Get points by paying rent at https://joinbilt.com/gge. Liquid IV: Get 20% off at https://liquidiv.com with code GGE. Materialists: Watch the Materialist's trailer on A24's Youtube, Instagram or Tiktok and see it in theaters June 13. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Welcome to the snack, a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi guys. Hi guys.

• 0:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Big day.

• 0:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  What's today?

• 0:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know. I just like recording this episode a lot.

• 0:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, okay. Just a big Tuesday. Just another Tuesday in the snack.

• 0:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I really spent a lot of time prepping for this.

• 0:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  You really haven't prepped. I'm just gonna sit back if you don't mind.

• 0:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Actually, I would like you to. I think I'm gonna teach you things about mercury today and movie sets. And there's just like so much to tell you. I do, I just came across this headline like two seconds ago. It made me bust out laughing.

• 0:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  What?

• 0:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Breaking. If you know about this, I'm gonna be so mad. French Parliament is demanding that the US return the Statue of Liberty.

• 0:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, girl, that was yesterday. Woke up 8:00 AM. Everybody knows they want the Statue of Liberty back. Which I don't know if that's the whole country, but yes, people in France are like, you're not using this appropriately. You're not, it's not giving liberty.

• 1:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Give us our statue back.

• 1:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Give us our statue back. Yes. Which the, we suck.

• 1:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hundred percent, take it back. We don't deserve it. We suck so bad.

• 1:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I wanna watch a reality show about them taking it back. How do they like dismantle it? Get it out of there.

• 1:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. People are jet skiing around it. I have jet skied around the Statue of Liberty. It was one of my favorite things I've ever done. You were there.

• 1:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Obviously, I was there.

• 1:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we've talked about this before, but I saw that for the first time in the movie Hitch where they were jet skiing in the Hudson. I'm like, who gets to do that? Like, what elite socialites get to jet ski in the Hudson? You can just do it.

• 1:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I just think that people think of the Hudson as like gross and you can't.

• 1:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, I didn't think of it as that.

• 1:43Rayna Greenberg?

  It was so fun.

• 1:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just thought of it as like you get to jet ski next to the Statue of Liberty. It's insane.

• 1:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Not anymore.

• 1:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not anymore. Now that's gone.

• 1:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, France is like-

• 1:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  What are they gonna put there? Donald Trump's gonna put a statue of his dumb ass there.

• 1:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Of himself. They're just, I love that France is like, you don't deserve this anymore. It's like when you break up and you're like, I want my sweatshirt back. Except for France is like, I want my statue back.

• 2:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  They gave us that and that gift and- Good faith that we would not run this country into the ground and look at us now.

• 2:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Fucked around.

• 2:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, we're finding out. We're in the find out phase.

• 2:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, thank our partners and we'll get right into it. Thanks to Liquid IV. Get 20% off at liquidiv.com with code GGE and Bilt. Get points by paying rent at joinbilt.com/GGE.

• 2:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to Symbiotica. Get 20% off and free shipping at symbiotica.com/girlsgodeat or as my fiance called it this morning, Jimbiotica.

• 2:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, he did that.

• 2:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  He found one of the pouches in his wallet and he was like, what is this Jimbiotica? I'm like, I've been throwing this down your throat every day.

• 2:45Rayna Greenberg?

  You've just been stuffing them in his wallet?

• 2:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. I've been putting it.

• 2:52Rayna Greenberg?

  You will get healthy, motherfucker.

• 2:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Your current fiance.

• 2:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, stop.

• 2:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's gonna be on Monday's episode, I think, right?

• 3:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  With Emily?

• 3:02Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys will see what it's about.

• 3:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  I guess I've deleted it now.

• 3:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Stay tuned for me calling him that for nine months and then he's gonna be your current husband.

• 3:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I called him my current fiance and I don't know why. It's foreshadowing.

• 3:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, he's not the former or the last.

• 3:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not gonna be forever. It's like the Statue of Liberty.

• 3:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Temporary. My temporary fiance.

• 3:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Our current Statue of Liberty. It's not gonna last forever.

• 3:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so funny, because like, single guys have condoms in their wallet.

• 3:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, he's got a.

• 3:31Rayna Greenberg?

  He's got Jimbiotic in his wallet.

• 3:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Liposomal vitamin C.

• 3:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 3:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, let's kick it off with a planetary report. So.

• 3:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm surprised I got you to do this.

• 3:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  What?

• 3:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I pitched you this and I'm surprised you said yes. I feel like you don't really care about like astrology and woo woo shit and you were like, let's do it.

• 3:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's a fun topic. I also think that like Mercury is in retrograde is tossed around a lot and I was like, I don't really know what that means. Let me learn about it.

• 3:56Rayna Greenberg?

  So I did learn about Mercury in retrograde years ago. I think I was talking to Kelly Knight, who has been on our show and she.

• 4:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is a terra reader and a bit of a psychic and Modern Mystic is her shop in Atlanta. And I think I was telling her, like, everything seems to be going wrong, like, technology-wise, my phone, my computer, all these, I'm having miscommunications here and there. And she was like, "Oh, it's Mercury in retrograde." And I was like, "Say what?" And then, just like, I feel like this is the way things happen. Then you do start seeing it everywhere.

• 4:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 4:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  And that was probably, I mean, it could have been 10 years ago, but I think people, we'll talk about what it is, but yeah, it can excuse, it can excuse some things happening.

• 4:35Rayna Greenberg?

  But this season, we are in like turbo chaos, Mercury retrograde. So we will explain what it is, but on top of that, also Venus is in retrograde and it's eclipse season.

• 4:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, is it, or is it just being alive in 2025?

• 4:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I think a lot of it is just being alive.

• 4:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Everything's worse right now.

• 4:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 4:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're trying to take our statue away. Everything's bad.

• 4:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Tariffs on everything.

• 4:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love the Statue of Liberty. The way you started this episode, now I'm gonna be in a bad mood about it.

• 5:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know I fucking love her.

• 5:04Rayna Greenberg?

  It's my favorite thing to fly over. I get so excited when we fly over like the bottom of Manhattan and I see her.

• 5:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Even when you see it driving in, even when you see it from a boat for your birthday, or for a jet ski for my birthday.

• 5:16Rayna Greenberg?

  It excites me.

• 5:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love that bitch. Okay.

• 5:17Rayna Greenberg?

  So, yes, a lot of this is just being alive, but planetary-wise, what Mercury in retrograde means is that it is a period of time when Mercury moves slower than Earth around the Sun. So, there is sort of an optical illusion that Mercury is moving backwards. And Mercury is the planet that, like you said, controls communication. And so, it's also cognition to computers, transportation and transactions, conversations, schedules, all kinds of things. You know what I think? Like, who wrote this? Like, okay, communication, like, it controls emails and computers? Who decided this?

• 5:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  The planets.

• 5:51Rayna Greenberg?

  What year?

• 5:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, exactly. Like, you can buy into it or not, but again, like Raina said, it's a planet of communication, so it's thought that when it goes into retrograde, we can expect a whole range of mishaps across human communication with people in our lives or technology. Guys should be using this more. Guys should be like, "I was starting to text you back, Mercury's in retrograde." Or, "I did send that text, it must have not gone through."

• 6:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Every girl would love it.

• 6:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's such a female, well, I don't know. I do think it's a little more like a female trait to be interested in astrology, but this is what guys could be using as excuses.

• 6:24Rayna Greenberg?

  And if you feel like this happens a lot, which I'm always like, isn't, I feel like I hear this a lot. It does happen three to four times a year and it will happen for two to three weeks at a time. And it's not always at the same time of year.

• 6:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is that often a year?

• 6:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 6:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 6:37Rayna Greenberg?

  It can happen three to four times a year.

• 6:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  But this is supposed to be the big one. So even the Cut did an article titled, "This Mercury Retrograde Is Going to Be Real Rough," and everybody's talking about it. And I think it's interesting. I do think if you feel like things are just going wrong and melting down in these certain areas of your life, it can, I think, provide a sense of relief to be like, oh, it's just the planets, it's the universe, it's what's happening. It's not like we're excusing bad behavior or making, you know, based on something happening in the planets, but I'm sure that some guys will now.

• 7:09Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not me, it's the planets.

• 7:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not me, it's the universe. But I like a lot of the talk about like who it's going to affect the most.

• 7:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. So it starts in Aries, basically. So Mercury is the planet, right? Aries is the zodiac sign. So it starts during Aries. So it's from March 15th to March 29th. You should expect unnecessarily hot tempers, bold declarations that age poorly, and technology failures. So they're saying, "Check all your emails. Make sure you're not responding to the wrong person on a different text thread."

• 7:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, sending a screenshot of you talking shit to that person.

• 7:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 7:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is when you would do it.

• 7:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Someone did it to me the other day.

• 7:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  What?

• 7:45Rayna Greenberg?

  But she was calling me skinny. So I kind of appreciated it.

• 7:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Someone really did. Okay.

• 7:51Rayna Greenberg?

  So that's, that's when it applies to Aries. So Aries in general, about action in general, like that zodiac sign. So this phase can cause a lot of like hyper-action. And then with Pisces, after March 29th.

• 8:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Into what, like April 15th?

• 8:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Into April 15th.

• 8:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 8:08Rayna Greenberg?

  That's when Mercury is functioning normally, this planet, but it struggles in Pisces. So facts dissolve, communication gets a little too abstract.

• 8:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's just the current administration.

• 8:18Rayna Greenberg?

  And logic takes a backseat.

• 8:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  It sounds like 2025 to me.

• 8:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Just that's what's up.

• 8:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Kelly would say, don't make any big rash decisions. Don't sign any contracts, but sometimes you gotta sign a contract. Also, this is when you're doing your taxes. You're like, I can't do my taxes this year.

• 8:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  And my terror reader says, I just, it wouldn't be right for me to sign this. So this year, I'm just not going to pay them.

• 8:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm just not going to do it. You can file a tax extension.

• 8:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's so funny. I have to file an extension. So a couple of different articles we found, but one says, while Mercury retrograde affects everyone, Aries, Pisces, Gemini and Virgo will be front and center for the next few weeks, so watch out. And then in this people article, it said, things can get chaotic for fire signs. Aries, Leo, Sagittarius. So it sounds like Aries is just fucked across the board.

• 9:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 9:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  And the Mercury's in Aries.

• 9:13Rayna Greenberg?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 9:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's penetrating Aries.

• 9:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, it doesn't penetrate Gemini, but Geminis in general, we are, we're chatty. We're really communicative. We're just talking to everybody all the time. And when your communication's fucked up, that's just more people to fuck up communication with. I just be talking all day, every day.

• 9:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. I feel like you need to really be careful.

• 9:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I gotta reel it in. I told nine people the same story the other day about this date that I was going on that didn't happen. And then I had to tell nine people the next morning.

• 9:44Rayna Greenberg?

  I got a flood of text messages.

• 9:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  How was the date? How was the date?

• 9:48Rayna Greenberg?

  How was the date? And like, our friends are just great. Like, they all just like root for each other, root for me. And so many of our friends are in serious relationships. And so when I'm like, I like this guy, I think I'm going on this date.

• 9:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then he can't. Well, that's where you run wrong. Cause I think I'm going on this date is where you know you gotta stop talking.

• 10:03Rayna Greenberg?

  A man, totally.

• 10:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's the I think for me.

• 10:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I'm so silly to think when a man asks me on a date, plans the date, picks a time, follows up, that I, that he will actually show up for this date.

• 10:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  How many times has a woman ever said, I think I'm going on this date and actually gone? If it's not written in blood, you're not going, sis.

• 10:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, it doesn't matter that he told me he was gonna come over grocery shop, picked the recipe, picked the time, in the middle of our recording, he texted me, I can't come over tonight.

• 10:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're hoping for a redo.

• 10:35Rayna Greenberg?

  We'll see.

• 10:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I'm not gonna ask about it.

• 10:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I've just, I've taken a note that I need to tell a few less people that it's happening. We have so many fun girlfriends, I just like to like chit chat, tell them stuff. And also, I don't feel embarrassed, he should feel embarrassed.

• 10:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 10:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank you.

• 10:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  I hope he doesn't find it about mercury in retrograde, he's gonna be like, oh, sorry, couldn't make it.

• 10:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I was actually wondering if he was gonna text me that today.

• 10:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, because it started on March 15th, and he dropped the ball last week before it started.

• 11:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 11:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so we asked our listeners on Instagram, have you experienced any effects of mercury? It's hard to, tongue twister, of mercury in, I think mercury is a tough word.

• 11:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Mercury retrograde, it's a lot of.

• 11:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, you say mercury retrograde, I say in retrograde.

• 11:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that they're sort of interchangeable, but I think the actual term is mercury retrograde.

• 11:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, I think it's in. You know what, let us know in the comments.

• 11:24Rayna Greenberg?

  It doesn't matter.

• 11:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 11:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Lot of syllables.

• 11:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  So here are our responses. Overwhelming desire to break up with my boyfriend and have a hot girl summer, that's every year.

• 11:33Rayna Greenberg?

  That's not mercury when the season changes.

• 11:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  But do it. Maybe just wait until after.

• 11:39Rayna Greenberg?

  May?

• 11:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  April 15th, right? Maybe just wait.

• 11:43Rayna Greenberg?

  After retro.

• 11:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know, I mean, again, do or don't, but that's what experts would probably advise, is don't make those big decisions. Unless this relationship is terrible, but I don't know, you got a good thing going, you might wanna wait.

• 11:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Start working on your wardrobe right now.

• 11:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, yeah.

• 11:59Rayna Greenberg?

  And your vibe, if you're like, I wanna have a hot girl summer, it's never too late to be a hot girl.

• 12:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yeah. That's always something you can accomplish. Communication issues across the board, my baby daddy started being more unreasonable lately. Got laid off from work, major cuts, that's just America in 2025, a lot of that, and so we feel for anybody that that happened to, of course. Slept wrong, and now I can't move my neck, I'm only 28.

• 12:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Relatable, but I'm almost 40.

• 12:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 12:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, yeah, my therapist is cutting her hours, she wants to communicate less, obviously. I poured OJ into a bowl and then later stepped in dog poop.

• 12:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oof, that is so mercury and retrograde vibes, like when that stuff happens, like, just over and over, you feel like you're in a, like, cartoon.

• 12:43Rayna Greenberg?

  My newish boyfriend told me he started seeing someone else but still wants to be friends.

• 12:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yeah, knew it, that's, that's tough.

• 12:49Rayna Greenberg?

  That's crazy, and I'm sorry, um, I ripped the crotch of my pants. Worst period I've ever had. My life is in shambles. It's been about a year.

• 13:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I hope it gets better.

• 13:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  You can't blame that one on the planet.

• 13:01Rayna Greenberg?

  That's not because Mercury is spinning backwards optically. I woke up with a raging UTI, relatable. I work in HR and everyone is act- everyone's acting up.

• 13:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, everyone's acting a fool. Yeah, and then this one got ghosted because of my micropenis. I, this guy has DM'd me.

• 13:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I wonder if this is a girl just talking about her clit. This is a guy.

• 13:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's a guy. Yeah, like I saw in my hidden messages that this guy sent me a DM that was like, "Have you ever seen a micropenis? Do you want to?" I showed it to my fiance, my current fiance, right away. He busted out laughing. And then I just noticed the same handle. No, it's like, stays in the hidden folder where it belongs. I did notice it was the same handle.

• 13:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 13:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I don't know what this guy's agenda is, but none of us want to see it. Stop, get it out of here.

• 13:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, just some people, but not strangers.

• 13:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I'm not single and I, I'll use that as my excuse so I don't body shame. Okay. So, and then a lot about exes. So should we just ping pong the final, the final five?

• 14:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 14:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  A guy I really liked was starting to fall for me. Let me know his ex is back in the picture. Don't love it.

• 14:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Yikes. An ex of mine that I found out was married after almost two years of dating, broke no contact.

• 14:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  My ex unblocked me. That's very Mercury retrograde, like the communicate, the technology. Like you're like, where did this come from? Like what made you decide to do this?

• 14:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Right. What happened today that you did this?

• 14:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 14:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, spoke to my ex of five years after eight months of no contact.

• 14:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  What is going on?

• 14:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Guys, they always come back.

• 14:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Yes, my boyfriend and I recently started dating and both of our exes made appearances. That's nothing new. Ex, they're always going to creep back in.

• 14:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely. And things have been going really well with an ex.

• 14:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tell me you didn't understand the question.

• 14:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Unless that's like a bad thing.

• 14:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's a sentence that does, doesn't, that doesn't, that is an oxymoron. Things have been going really well with an ex. What are what? No.

• 14:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, like, like their friendship is going really well or they're like sharing a dog or they're getting back together.

• 15:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  What are the things?

• 15:04Rayna Greenberg?

  What are the things? Give us more information, sis. Maybe she's like, "It's going a little too well and I'm going to have to walk this back with all my friends." I talked a lot of hard shit.

• 15:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's like, "I think we're getting back together."

• 15:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, give it a couple of weeks. He'll do something terrible.

• 15:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so X's kind of brings us into this movie that we want to talk about. This is Materialists and it is dropping in June, June 13th. This is an A24 film written and directed by Celine Song, who did Past Lives. And you know, we love A24. I mean, they, can I just tell you, I just looked something up about A24 and like, one of the questions that people ask and that AI answered when you Google it is, why are A24 movies so good?

• 15:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, okay.

• 15:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  It says, "A24's films are often praised for their unique, auteur-driven, I don't know that word, driven approach, strong marketing and willingness to take risks with independent and unconventional projects, leading to a reputation for quality and originality."

• 16:02Rayna Greenberg?

  So they don't do a ton of movies, but they do great movies. They really spend their time and then they stack the cast. So this is a movie, it stars Dakota Johnston.

• 16:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  They did Uncle John.

• 16:17Rayna Greenberg?

  So they, it always makes me giggle. So this is a fun rom-com, but it looks a little deeper than that.

• 16:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like a rom-drom.

• 16:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Rom-drom, rom-dromps. It's set in New York City. It stars Dakota Johnston and she is a high-end matchmaker. And she's sort of resolved that like, true love is not for her. And so she's just gonna go out and find somebody rich essentially to be with. And it pits her against these two love interests now. So there's her formal love interest, it's Chris Evans. He's basically a cater waiter.

• 16:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sexy.

• 16:48Rayna Greenberg?

  And Pedro Pascal, who's this like, rich New York City, I think, finance guy. And it's just this like, tale as old as time, like, what's more important, love or money?

• 16:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  What a dream role to have Pedro Pascal and Chris Evans fighting over you. Pedro Pascal, the zaddy, the goat of zaddies. Chris, the only Chris you can trust of all the four Chris's. Chris Pine, Chris Pat, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Chris Pratt. So I love it and I, we watched the trailers, the trailer drop this morning as we are recording. So definitely check that out and I really like this scene. She's at this event or dinner, something with Pedro Pascal. And then he asks what she wants to drink and she says a Coke and a beer. And then Chris Evans comes over and like drops it in front of her. But at first you think like, oh, he knew she was going to order that. How did he know? They don't show Chris Evans right away and then she realizes it's him. And then it just goes from there. I love the trailer.

• 17:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  I cannot wait for this. I've loved Dakota Johnson since the movie How to Be Single, which I got ready to watch recently. This is from like 2015 and different vibes than this, but even just kind of seeing her, you know, dating, finding love, looking for love, whatever it may be, and then running around New York City. I just love to see it. So I'm just such a fan of her.

• 18:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I am too. She's fantastic and I like the premise of this, which is this, this, it's a woman who's really killing it in her career and she is just habitually single. She's the chronically single friend who sets other people up. And you know, I've complained for many years that there's just too much content about women that are just kind of like flailing and then a man sweeps in and saves them. And I like movies about women that are a little bit older in roles where they're like actually killing it professionally. There's nothing so wrong with them. And I just, I think that I really love this premise of like, what is more important to you in a relationship, in life? What can sustain you longer? And things that we say will make us happy versus what actually makes us happy long term.

• 18:45Rayna Greenberg?

  So I love all of those themes and just the archetype of the like, single, successful New York City woman.

• 18:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, I love it. And you're using a matchmaker right now. This is especially relevant to our lives.

• 18:58Rayna Greenberg?

  And it's really, it's interesting. I mean, I've thought about this a lot on. Dating apps specifically, and I've read some interesting articles about specifically what men say that they want from a partner, which is a woman who's self-sufficient, makes her own money, but she's sweet and kind and open and she can just be like chill and laid back, but she kills it at work and all these things. And the premise of these articles is basically like, all men say they want this, but if you give them this, they will be so intimidated by this woman, they'll hate it. And vice versa, I think that, you know, that's why, you know, I want a man who's 6'5", trust fund, finance, all this, that went so viral, because so many women say they want this. But I don't know, there's a lot of trade-offs to finding somebody like that.

• 19:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and what, there's two of them and they did, they ran the numbers, there's like two, two of those guys in the country.

• 19:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Like less than, less than like 0.1% of the population would ever be this. And those people are dating 0.1% of the population.

• 19:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So I went through some of the comments when the trailer dropped this morning, there's thousands of them. And some of them I really loved. And the first one says, "They don't make movies like this anymore." Cosign. I do feel like this is like, the quality feels like 90s, early 2000s. Like, I think we're really going to be riveted by this in like a rom-com, rom-drom type of way. So it says, "They don't make movies like this anymore. I hope she chooses the rich guy."

• 20:09Rayna Greenberg?

  [laughing] I'm hoping like a true New Yorker.

• 20:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  This says, I love this one, "This seems strangely straightforward for an A24 movie." So you know, there's going to be some kind of twist in there, right?

• 20:22Rayna Greenberg?

  She picks neither of them.

• 20:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 20:23Rayna Greenberg?

  She chooses herself.

• 20:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Literally, "Plot twist." Another person said, "Plot twist, the boys end up together. 10-10, no notes. Between Pedro and Chris, I'm conflicted." And then someone wrote, "It's A24, so she's probably going to end up single at the end." She's going to choose herself. She's going to Samantha Jones it.

• 20:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Or she's going to get Pedro Pascal to fund a movie for Chris Evans and get Chris Evans to be rich, and then she goes and be, be with Chris Evans.

• 20:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Pedro Pascal in romantic comedies, "We Have Been Heard," "Girlies," "Dakota Johnson Is Living My Dream," "Mr. Fantastic Captain America," and "Madam Web and a Love Triangle."

• 20:58Rayna Greenberg?

  That reminds me of The White Lotus where everybody says those three women can be identified as Carrie Coon, Jacqueline and Maga.

• 21:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, actress. Actress, Maga and Carrie Coon. And then this one, please, I'm Sat, Celine, thank you for another love triangle.

• 21:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I can't wait for it. It comes out, it comes out in June, Materialist. I'm very excited about this.

• 21:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so you guys watch the trailer. You can watch it on A24's YouTube, Instagram, or TikTok, wherever you want to find it, it's there. And then in theaters, June 13th, Rana's birthday week.

• 21:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, can I ask you just like a quick question? Do you think White Lotus is the only show that every person in the country is watching?

• 21:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which also, like, this is on HBO, like, not as many people have it, but it feels like it is the one show that literally everyone watches.

• 21:45Rayna Greenberg?

  It has united the country across both sides of the aisle, men, women, LGBTQ, everybody is into the show.

• 21:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 21:53Rayna Greenberg?

  And it's the worst season they've ever had. And it's not bad, but it's my least favorite of the three. And that's, that's saying a lot because I loved, I love all three of them.

• 22:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm gonna do a power ranking at the end of the season and see how I feel. Because you know how I feel, I did love the second season much more than the first. Much more, I don't know. I loved it more than the first. I can't decide with this one because they really, episodes three and four were a little slow and episode five was so unfinished.

• 22:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Give them all of it.

• 22:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was crazy. The brothers kissing and the Asian girl, like, kink scene that was.

• 22:32Rayna Greenberg?

  If they don't immediately make that guy a main character of the show, I want them to kick off old Dusty, what's his name on, what's his name?

• 22:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  What, Walter Coggins?

• 22:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I want them to kick him off and make the other guy a main character. I only want to follow that guy. The monologue of his friend talking about being into ladyboys and then liking to get fucked in the ass and then paying Asian girls to watch him get fucked in the ass, I could have watched that for an hour.

• 22:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you think Mike White just did like an acid trip and wrote that? Like, what happened?

• 23:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Who came up with this? I don't know. It's not even a character on the show.

• 23:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have not really loved Rick, the character Walter Coggins. Honestly, until that moment, his expressions and his reactions just felt so real. Like, I couldn't wait for them to pan back to him. And with this dumbfounded, but honestly, not really judgmental.

• 23:23Rayna Greenberg?

  No, he never cuts in.

• 23:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  But he's just like, he doesn't really judge. We listen and we don't judge.

• 23:34Rayna Greenberg?

  The whole country was so riveted. It was shot and also like one continuous scene. Like, it's not a lot of like ping ponging back and forth across the room. Like, that is the best monologue we've seen all season. He's not even really a character.

• 23:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, can I tell you, I have a little bit of a controversial take on actress MAGA and Carrie Coon. And the guy, the hot guy that works.

• 23:58Rayna Greenberg?

  They're, they're a butler.

• 23:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're butler, okay. I think Jaclyn obviously is like a pick me and she needs all the attention and the validation. And she's also cheating on her husband and all of that. Meanwhile, though, he is kind of being.

• 24:11Rayna Greenberg?

  A little MIA.

• 24:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's mercury's in retrograde for him. He's been ghosting her. But I do think that Carrie Coon had her chance.

• 24:21Rayna Greenberg?

  And she just went to bed and threw up.

• 24:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  And scratched her butt. So real. When she scratched her butt crack, I was like, that is so real. That's me.

• 24:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Me too. Can we go to bed and I throw up and scratch my butt?

• 24:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know if Jaclyn is like, I've been pushing this for so many days and she won't take advantage. And tonight would have been the night she took her top off. She's wasted. Like, if she is not gonna fuck this guy tonight, I am. And I don't want to defend her because she's doing all the bad things, you know? But I don't think Lori wants it, or she would have done so. Like, I don't know. People are kind of saying like, oh, she's that friend that's gonna steal your man. It's like, that's totally fine, but I do think she is this like ultimate pick me. And she's the one that needs all the attention and she's got all these insecurities. But I kind of just feel like Lori, like, didn't want it.

• 25:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm with you. She didn't want it enough.

• 25:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's fair game, right?

• 25:11Rayna Greenberg?

  So I think that they tried to allude to the fact that like Lori was whispering in his ear before she went to bed. And then he didn't show up. Oh, and then Jaclyn texted him.

• 25:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, okay.

• 25:24Rayna Greenberg?

  So she like went to sleep waiting for him or something?

• 25:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I think he's wanted Jaclyn from the start, probably. And then there were, yeah, you're right. Cause then they were kind of dancing at the club and then he went over to kind of dance with Jaclyn. Yeah, I mean, she's a total like, you know, she was like, what? Dancing with those two guys and looking at that group of girls at the table. Like she wants the attention and I understand that, but okay.

• 25:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I see your point.

• 25:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, I didn't know, I didn't know if Lori really ever cared.

• 25:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I agree with you though. Jaclyn's been the one kind of pushing it. Lori's like, I don't need this. Like, I don't like this. I don't want this. Stop.

• 25:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I think some people, their point is like, you do have that friend. It's always like, you should go for it. You should go for it. You should go for him and secretly you want him.

• 26:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 26:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I can see that take too.

• 26:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, but I also see her being like, well, what do you want me to do? He didn't want you.

• 26:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 26:10Rayna Greenberg?

  He wanted me.

• 26:12Rayna Greenberg?

  And he's the butler at this resort. It's, we're not in real life, by the way, like it, this is just like a vacation hookup I'm gonna have. This is not like a serious prospect for you to date.

• 26:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly. Okay. Well, we're just gonna take a moment and thank our partners and then we will get back into it.

• 26:28Rayna Greenberg?

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• 30:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, Snow White.

• 30:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you ever think there'd be so much drama coming out of Snow White?

• 30:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Kinda. I just feel like these Disney movies are always got some drama. Because I think these production companies want to make them a little more appropriate for the times. And people get fired up.

• 31:12Rayna Greenberg?

  So the headline, Disney scales back Snow White Hollywood premiere amid Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot's controversies. This movie was supposed to come out in March of 2024. They pushed it back to March 2025 because of the writer's strike last year.

• 31:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, right.

• 31:25Rayna Greenberg?

  And it seemed a little strange to put out these movies. But this, this movie has really been plagued with controversy since the beginning. So from the beginning, Rachel Zegler was cast as Snow White, the Latin actress, and people, racist people.

• 31:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 31:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Came out and didn't like the casting and had really been trolling her online ever since, to the point that she has come out and said like, Please stop tagging me in this stuff. I don't need to know about it. It doesn't need to like come across my desk. I got it. So people don't like the casting. So it started with that.

• 31:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  If there's any Disney princess that's, their race is not really up for interpretation, it would be Snow White. But who cares? It's like a fairy tale. I don't care. I love that they're gonna mix it up. But it's like, you probably could have seen that coming from these people, from these like racist, right wing, what, just Disney fairy tale purists.

• 32:18Rayna Greenberg?

  That's what it is. And I mean, the same thing happened when we made The Little Mermaid, an African American woman. So I mean, she's basically come out and said, I think the original book was written in 1937 or something. And she's like, yeah, a lot has changed since then. Also, this is a movie about a man who essentially stalks a woman and then kisses her while she's sleeping, which is assault. So she's just like, we're gonna change it up a little bit.

• 32:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I think they said they're changing how she even got the name Snow White. They're gonna mix the story up. Who cares? Whatever. But in 2022, January 22, on, on an appearance of Marc Maron's WTF podcast, Peter Dinklage, most famous little person, probably, right?

• 32:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I think so.

• 32:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Criticized the film, calling it a backwards story on account of its depiction of the seven dwarfs. So he says, there's a lot of hypocrisy going on. Literally no offense to anyone, but I was a little taken aback when they were very proud to cast a Latina actress as Snow White, but you're still telling the story of Snow White and the seven dwarfs. Take a step back and look at what you're doing there. It makes no sense to me. You're progressive in one way, but then you're still making that fucking backwards story about seven dwarfs living in a cave together. What the fuck? Blah, blah, blah. He kinda went off.

• 33:26Rayna Greenberg?

  So, by the way, at that point, is he, so they've decided to CGI the dwarfs instead of hiring actors that are little people?

• 33:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And so that's one take. And then it says, Disney responded. And then it said, we're taking a different approach. And we've been consulting with members of the dwarfism community. We will share more. And then another little person who played Hornswoggle, oh, I just heard that was a Harry Potter thing, but it's not. Hornswoggle in the WWE, he kind of clapped back and said, it's not helping our community. It's taking jobs away from our community that are very far in tweet. I mean, seven little people. That's a lot to cast in a movie.

• 34:07Rayna Greenberg?

  And they found them for, they found them for, for Harry Potter.

• 34:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. But I'm saying like, I understand that take.

• 34:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, that's what I thought Peter Dinklage meant. I thought he meant like, it's an abomination that you're going to CGI all these actors.

• 34:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, I thought Peter Dinklage meant like, can we stop with the dwarfs?

• 34:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, just in general?

• 34:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like I think he was like, they live in a cave. Like this is offensive to dwarfs.

• 34:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Got it.

• 34:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. He was saying like, you're so progressive with your Latina, Snow White, but you still, you're going to cast seven little people in a cave. But they could have.

• 34:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Isn't the movie called Snow White, the Seven Dwarfs?

• 34:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  They, I think maybe, and I'm not sure what Disney is planning on doing, but I think just elevate the, the dwarfs and don't make them look like losers in a cave. Like, let's just kind of change the perception of them. And I, again, I cannot speak as someone from that community. I do think that those people should have been casted because now what? They're CGI'd and they're voiceover.

• 35:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it's horrible. I think it's absolutely horrible that seven people could have been employed on a set. And then in my mind, I'm like, okay, well, it's obviously less money. You have to hire seven actors. You don't have to have seven extra actors on set. Who cares?

• 35:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. So does feel like a slight. I mean, it's, they'll be voiced by actors who are not little people.

• 35:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it's really awful. I, I think that like any other type of character, whether it's women or children, like we would have regular actors doing this. So why are you singling out this bunch of actors and saying like, we'll just CGI this bunch? That's crazy.

• 35:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I'd be curious what Peter Dinklage, is he just saying like, don't make the movie? Or it's dated? Like, I'm curious his take. I guess I didn't listen to a whole podcast. Maybe we should have prepped by listening to that. But I'm like, his thing was just kind of like, it seems like, let's not stereotype.

• 35:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  People from this community.

• 35:53Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like living caves and stuff.

• 35:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, but don't have them live in a mansion. Have them be bro'd out.

• 35:59Rayna Greenberg?

  That would be so awesome.

• 36:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  All these like, like I think they could make them, I really think they could lift them up.

• 36:05Rayna Greenberg?

  And just do something different. Totally. That would be so fun.

• 36:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Make them the stars.

• 36:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, in Harry Potter, they run the banks.

• 36:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. All right, Tessa, did you look that up?

• 36:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, so he is an American professional wrestler and that's his ring name is Hornswoggle.

• 36:19Rayna Greenberg?

  And it's a little person.

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Yes, he's five, four, five.

• 36:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  WWE wrestler. Okay.

• 36:24Rayna Greenberg?

  So now they're saying the other controversy, it's, it's highly political actually against of the two main characters. So Gal Gadot is, she's former Israeli Defense Forces. She is very pro-Israel. She's very outspoken about it. She's from Israel. She's served for the IDF, I understand it. And Rachel Zegler, on the other side of the coin, is very pro-Palestine, free Palestine, very anti-Trump. She has come out very, very loud and proud anti-Trump. Um, and so these two actresses, they're saying, have just sort of like an inability to be around each other or see eye to eye in any way.

• 36:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so they don't align politically, but I guess what it says, they attended a premiere, they smiled and posed side by side. So this isn't like a Justin Maldoni, Blake Lively thing, like they're faking it.

• 37:09Rayna Greenberg?

  But they presented together at the Academy Awards. It was a little awkward.

• 37:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 37:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that they're both very passionate about their side of the aisle.

• 37:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 37:17Rayna Greenberg?

  And I understand that they have a failure to communicate because of this. So it's very, I guess, uncomfortable on set.

• 37:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, aren't they kind of enemies in the movie? Maybe this will be good for the movie. Well, I guess the movie's already been shot.

• 37:31Rayna Greenberg?

  It has been shot.

• 37:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I'm saying like this, isn't it Snow White, the evil queen?

• 37:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 37:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Maybe it'll make it better.

• 37:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm saying, I think that like it has become a PR strategy in recent years with, um, Don't Worry Darling. And obviously not a strategy, but with It Ends With Us to like

• 37:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Have the drama.

• 37:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a lot of drama. It makes people go see these movies. I will say, this is not going to make me see the movie. I would see the movie regardless, but That the feud between the actors is never really gonna make me see a movie.

• 38:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm pissed about the

• 38:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Dorf.

• 38:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  AI Dorf.

• 38:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I am too. That will make me not go see the movie.

• 38:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is actually the worst thing they could have done. Keep them in the story, but not hire people to play them. Like, if Peter Dinklage's whole stance was like, let's not do this, then remove them from the story, make a whole different Snow White altogether. Again, it wouldn't have been the same at all. But like, this is actually, it's like the worst of both worlds.

• 38:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I find it reprehensible. I don't think there's-

• 38:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Are we missing something? Well, how dare they?

• 38:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I think there's no other class of people I've ever heard of where they're like, you know what, just make them computer people.

• 38:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're half of the story.

• 38:38Rayna Greenberg?

  They're, they're in the title.

• 38:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, they're in the title.

• 38:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, so this movie comes out this week, you know, see it or don't.

• 38:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and we will wrap it up with another beef going on.

• 38:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Kim Kardashian contemplating court request to strip Kanye West of custody of their kids after song drama.

• 38:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  So he used North West, him and Kim's daughter, in a song that he did with Diddy. Just like a small snippet of her, she's on this track now, that Kim was obviously against and said, don't release it. And he just released it anyway, against her wishes.

• 39:16Rayna Greenberg?

  So basically, he had said that he needed North to do vocals for the Sunday service that he does. So she recorded something under that premise. And then he recorded a song with Diddy. And the beginning of the song is a recording of a conversation between him and Diddy in prison. And Diddy's saying, thank you for taking care of my children. And Kanye West puts out this song, right? And Kim Kardashian said, she has, she has trademarked all four of her children's names, and she owns the trademark. So Kanye West cannot make music with their children and put it out without her permission, essentially.

• 39:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Didn't North have a song?

• 39:49Rayna Greenberg?

  That might have been something that Kim Kardashian sent off on.

• 39:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  She would, she would have to approve everything. Letting her make music to an extent. And then this other thing that just happened was, I guess Playboy Carti posted a Instagram story that was like, North, let's hit me with a verse. Like, I want, I want to work with you, kind of whatever. Like, I'm paraphrasing. And then Kim reposted it, so in support of it. So it's less about the music, it's more about she's on a track with Diddy, which understandable, but the

• 40:18Rayna Greenberg?

  That's what it's about.

• 40:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So there, then Kanye is releasing text messages between them. I was watching just different takes on this. Bethenny Frankel, did you see her?

• 40:28Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 40:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's always got a

• 40:30Rayna Greenberg?

  She's really always got a way in.

• 40:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Way in on everything. Yeah. So she was saying, which I agree, I don't always agree with her, that she's been through this, you know, divorce and custody and everything. And she was just like, Kim is texting him like he's a rational person, which is her first mistake. And she should never be speaking to him directly. She should be speaking to him by proxy. And then she just kind of went on to, to talk about what custody means. And a lot of people think about custody in terms of time spent. And, you know, you get your full time, your part time, your weekends, whatever. But she should have decision making. So I guess that's the legal language for like, Kim would have decision making powers over the kids. And that's what's most important, not like the time spent with dad or whatever. So I just thought it was interesting.

• 41:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, she's so right. Like, I get it. Like, whoever you are, celebrity or not, you want to like, fire off that text. But it's crazy that she texts with him. I think she thinks she can probably talk some sense into him.

• 41:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, she, she has seen a rational version of him, right? She chose to have four children with him. She's married him for a long time. I think that she's like, if anybody can get through to him, I can. But yes, to Bethenny Frankel's point, like, he's not a well person and you're not going to be able to rationalize with him. And also, it's not just being protective of your children. She, she genuinely owns the trademark. So no one can do anything with their children, which made sense, by the way, that she would trademark her children's likeness because they're very famous. And so she would be in control of this. And Kanye signed off on that.

• 41:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  But did you know that?

• 42:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  These trademarks are expired.

• 42:03Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 42:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  So she's fighting a game she already lost? Do you, and I have to know if you think Kim knows she's bluffing? Or do you think she just forgot to renew these trademarks?

• 42:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, my God.

• 42:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's doing a lot. She's doing a lot. She should be focused on her daughter's trademarks. So I saw this on the US Sun and Daily Mail. I feel like not a lot of people are reporting on this, but they got the info from the US Trademark Office, the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Northwest has all these trademarks for all kinds of stuff, for everything she could do, skincare, music, whatever. She has one that's currently not abandoned. It's for toys. So this isn't a toy. This is music.

• 42:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. And they can make bobbleheads at Northwest?

• 42:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. Like, do you think she knows? Do you think she is bluffing and thinks he won't check? Also, do you think Kanye knows? Like, I would love to see him, I can't stand him, obviously. We're not on his side, but I'd like to see him clap back, like, these trademarks are expired, Kim.

• 42:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, I think that Kim is doing both. You know, I think that Chris is on it. You know, the devil works hard. Chris works harder. I feel like Kim is trying to scare Kanye while Chris is behind the scenes renewing this trademark.

• 43:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, they've, have not been renewed. They're, they're dead.

• 43:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Abandoned.

• 43:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Dead in the water. Like, I could buy them.

• 43:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Chris, we buy them. We sue Kanye.

• 43:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Plot twist. We're in charge now. So she says, I have the trademarks.

• 43:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you don't.

• 43:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Kim be bluffing.

• 43:27Rayna Greenberg?

  And basically she said to Kanye, like, take this down. I own this trademark. And he fired back with, I'll fucking ruin your life and you'll have to kill me. I'll never stop.

• 43:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And he said it's a lot of terrible things, what he wrote, like, the man makes the final decision. It's just like, you're probably not going to get the final, you're, you're gonna get buried here. But I don't know. He's kind of like, what does he, what does he have on her?

• 43:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I think he could ruin her life and has nothing to lose. I'm just like, what does he have on the Kardashians?

• 43:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 43:58Rayna Greenberg?

  They have more bodies buried than anybody.

• 44:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's not doing herself any favors, right now, anyway. She's not. Um, so I don't know, but then I'm like, Kanye, he, he'd just be talking. Like, I'll ruin you. You're gonna have to kill me. Shut up.

• 44:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I just, I'm, I'm ready to see what comes out about Chris, about Kim. Like, I think that he is in possession of some pretty crazy shit.

• 44:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, he has the proof that Chris put out the sex tape. But do you think Kanye is?

• 44:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you think he's real?

• 44:29Rayna Greenberg?

  What do you mean?

• 44:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  So there's that whole theory that this is not him. Kristin Cavallari was talking about it. I guess he was on record. He was like, I'll be, I'll come back as a clone.

• 44:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, and he does look a little different. Have you heard that theory that this, this Kanye is a clone and they've taken the other one?

• 44:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Who?

• 44:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  The government?

• 44:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know.

• 44:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm not sure. Guess the government.

• 44:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I don't know. I just think that's a funny, I think I saw Kristin Cavallari talking about it in a clip and I was really laughing. I don't see her, I don't, I don't usually see her so passionately dive into like a conspiracy theory.

• 45:04Rayna Greenberg?

  You sent it to me.

• 45:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So that's really what's happening. I mean, it's all just so gross.

• 45:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. And I think that also like, I think he manipulated his daughter on top of this. She is young and impressionable and I can't see her father sort of selling her the idea of being on a, on a rap with Diddy, but he told her this was for Sunday service. Like this is really unfair to your child too.

• 45:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, he's, he's scary. He's like a real loose cannon in the truest sense of the word.

• 45:31Rayna Greenberg?

  So I'm saying like, um, I can't even fathom what he's going to put out about the Kardashians.

• 45:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I think he would have done it. It's been years of this. He's had so many public conflicts with Kim. I don't know. I think he's put out what he, I don't know. My feeling is I don't think there's some body buried.

• 45:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. I think there's always more.

• 45:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 45:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I think we have not, we have not had evidence.

• 45:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  We haven't scratched the surface.

• 45:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think we have real proof that, that Chris put out the sex tape and she clearly did.

• 45:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Does anyone even care anymore?

• 46:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I care. I, I would love to see those conversations.

• 46:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, you think we don't have proof?

• 46:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought Kim, I thought Chris put the sex tape out.

• 46:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, everybody knows she should put it like, Chris is not Kim for our day.

• 46:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't think anyone cares anymore. Don't you think they'd be like, she did do it, but it paid off?

• 46:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I wish, well, Kim, the whole season a couple of years ago was about like how there's more of it coming out and people have more footage and Kanye went and got it. Remember he got it?

• 46:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my God, that fake scene?

• 46:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 46:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like there's one copy.

• 46:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Here's the VHS, everybody.

• 46:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  He showed up with a suitcase he bought like outside of Penn Station with some VHS tapes in it. All right. Well, this kind of leads us into something else we wanted to discuss, which is just children as creators in general and something that was kind of hot, at least in California, towards the end of 2024 and still is, was a new law that really went into effect that kind of strengthened the already existing law of what kids make when they're family influencers, things like that.

• 47:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I think there's been a lot of talk about this because so many parents use their children in their content and you and I were talking about like, wouldn't be getting these brand deals otherwise, certainly would not be getting these views otherwise. There's an article in Vulture. The premises are family vloggers really leaving California to avoid paying their kids. So there is a pre-existing law in California. It's called the Coogan Law, a 1939 ruling that requires child actors' employers, meaning like their parents, to keep 15% of their earnings into a trust. So, big time in Hollywood. People bring their kids here, their kids are making all this money, parents would steal all their kids' money.

• 47:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and then, but it basically, I mean, it says Illinois, Minnesota also have versions of that law in the books, while other states have introduced similar ones. But then, a new bill, I guess, was signed, Senate Bill 764, this was last year, mandates that parents of children shown in at least 30% of monetized online content set aside the same proportion of earnings into a trust until the child turns 18. So I guess just like went a little harder on it.

• 47:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 47:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  And that's going to be a lot of these family vloggers. And it doesn't, we were looking into it. It doesn't necessarily mean that like, if you get a deal from Pampers, which you're only getting because you have a baby, and then you have your baby in it or your small child, that you, that's like a deal that you don't, that doesn't really fall under it, but like YouTube earnings fall under it, which really affects all those family vloggers. And so, again, there's no proof that some of these family vloggers moved to Tennessee or wherever they moved because of this, but people were speculating. And, I mean, we just find it interesting. I mean, I don't really trust any of these like family vloggers. Like, I think it's always exploitative. Like, I'm always a little suspicious. Of families who have clearly chosen to use their kids for those platforms before their

• 48:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  kids can make the decisions. Like, you definitely know there's kids out there that like want to be famous and they beg their parents. I mean, one of my college girlfriends has that type of daughter. She's like, can I have a YouTube channel? And she's just like begging for it. And they don't want it. They're good parents. They don't want to put their kid on the internet. But they, you know, sometimes kids like they will wear you down. And that's understandable. Same with kids that really want to act and all of that. But I, I don't, it feels mostly really exploitative and wrong.

• 49:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I mean, this has been going on for a long time. You look at Bravo and it dates back to the Housewives so many years ago. And so many people, especially the original Housewives, like Teresa Giudice and Ramona Singer. I mean, all of their children grew up on television long before they ever had a right to sign off on whether they wanted to be on television. And the only time you see these kids pulled from these shows is when these couples split up. And one of the parents refuses, typically the husband, refuses to let the child film. And that's really just to affect the wife negatively. That's not really for the child's benefit because they were previously on it.

• 49:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 49:39Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, it's hard to watch. And you wonder like the effect this has on people. You know, all four of Teresa Giudice's kids, and I'm just chair picking her, there's hundreds of people like this. All four of her kids grew up on television so much before they could make those decisions. And that doesn't feel fair to me.

• 49:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. And you, you got to think about who you have kids with. I mean, and there was another headline we saw, and it says Grimes says that she begged Elon Musk to keep their kids offline. You knew who you chose to have kids with. I'm never, never want to like blame a woman. Clearly Elon is the villain in this situation and always. But like, this man who had all these other kids, he was an absent father to, you went into it like, I don't know, it's like kind of, you know, who you, you married. I mean, that's kind of another conversation, too. It's like, the same women who are married to these terrible lawmakers that want to strip women of their rights. It's like, oh, you just think you're gonna be safe? Like, you think you won't be affected? Like, what did you think was gonna happen? You thought this guy, this guy was gonna be a good dad?

• 50:37Speaker 02

  Because with that one, it kind of started after the CEO was shot and killed. And so they're using, I think her thing is, he's using him as a thing to like not get assassinated. So like, he's never been like, I mean, I agree to your point, but it's the fact that this one child is the one that's being picked out of his 13 children.

• 50:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, he has one kid he's like, has a relationship with and he's like bringing him around and people are like speculating that it's just for his own protection, which is sick.

• 51:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I mean, I feel for all of these children that don't get to make these choices for themselves. And, you know, you just, you look at all these people that are thrust into the spotlight and are helping their parents on top of that make money. And it's like, what do they get at the end of this? And everybody takes this to different lengths. I was watching, um, Elisa Schlessinger's new special. She's a new comedy special out on Amazon right now. And she's talking about how she doesn't post photos of her children and she doesn't even do comedy about her children. Cause she's like, I don't want in 10 years, 20 years, my kids to look back and listen to these stories about themselves that I wrote that are stamped on the internet forever. And everybody takes it to a different length, but I don't, I really just feel for these kids so much that are like in their parents' content, their parents are just getting brand deal after brand deal and like what money goes to them?

• 51:47Rayna Greenberg?

  And I understand this is different than child actors, because those parents can say, well, I built a platform and I do all the work and I do the editing and I do the promotion and the commenting, but like, there has to be a kickback for these kids.

• 52:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, and there's like, again, it's to me, I don't know, there is a lot of nuance there. People want to see cute content of families on the internet, you know, also, and people want to make money, you know? I think there's like a lot of ethical gray area here. At this, we're not saying that every parent who has their kids and their content is a bad parent, I hope that's not coming across. Like, I just think there's this like really extreme, I mean, there was a lot, been a lot of abuse documented in a lot of these families. And yes, of course, like spending all the money that your kids helped you earn, there's that. And yeah, how is a kid going to look back on it when they grow up? So I just think. Every situation is different. There's like a wide spectrum of it.

• 52:38Rayna Greenberg?

  There's such a wide spectrum and it's like, well, where's the line? Like, there's a couple of things I particularly like. I like Cat Sickler's video with her daughter. They're so sweet.

• 52:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that's exactly.

• 52:46Rayna Greenberg?

  And they're always just like cooking a cake or something together, doing a little dance. I find it so sweet. Or Alex Bennett is a friend of ours and she does these great videos with her infant daughter where she's just teaching her lessons and they're laying in bed together. And I like, love that content. And it feels like light and cute. And then you get into this long form vlogging content that is really like hours long pictures into people's lives. And that feels so much more intrusive to me and unfair.

• 53:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's an interesting conversation. And California is obviously leading the charge and trying to protect these children, but there's still like a lot of loopholes and even gray area when it comes to this too.

• 53:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, and they're saying it's, it's highly unenforceable. So, like.

• 53:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  You were saying your kid has to just grow up and sue you.

• 53:27Rayna Greenberg?

  They do, and they have to have a tally of all these things.

• 53:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 53:30Rayna Greenberg?

  So it's just, it's interesting. I, I think we, it's, it's a whole new world now with like brand deals for Instagram. Most of these laws apply more to like YouTube families because it's YouTube ad sense.

• 53:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay. Well, we just want to run through a few headlines. We're not going to deep dive them. Just want to let you guys know what's going on this week.

• 53:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so Harry Jowsey and Lucy Hale confirmed romance after cozy dinner sighting.

• 53:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  What? She broke up with Steven?

• 53:53Rayna Greenberg?

  No, this is a different person.

• 53:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Lucy.

• 53:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Lucy is her name in Tell Me Lies.

• 54:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Why did I think Lucy?

• 54:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Lucy Hale.

• 54:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  What, am I okay? Did I just have a stroke? I was thinking Lucy from Tell Me Lies, which what is her name?

• 54:11Rayna Greenberg?

  That's very funny. It is Lucy.

• 54:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  She broke up with Steven?

• 54:16Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 54:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not Grace Van Patten.

• 54:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Grace Van Patten.

• 54:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wow.

• 54:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Similar energy to Lucy Hale.

• 54:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sure.

• 54:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Forget it.

• 54:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 54:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Beautiful women. I can't believe people are still dating this dude. Every single woman is like, I'm going to take a crack at this. It's not like Pete Davidson to me. It's like Pete Davidson pulls into port and he like, seems like he could, he says he's a professional boyfriend. But like, Harry Jowsey is still getting all these women to sign up. That is crazy.

• 54:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, speaking of people I can't believe women are still dating is Donald Trump Jr.

• 54:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, that's not who I thought you were going to next.

• 54:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Donald Trump Jr. Has like a new girlfriend. He's got to flaunt her around because, I guess, because Tiger Woods has been quietly dating his ex-wife.

• 54:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Speaking of other people, I can't believe people are dating. Sex addict.

• 55:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you Tiger Woods, whatever. Do you think there's anyone more repulsive than Donald Trump Jr. Besides Eric Trump?

• 55:11Rayna Greenberg?

  His brother, no.

• 55:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Literally Beavis and Butthead. Like it's, they're so repulsive at every level.

• 55:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 55:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Anyway, so Tiger Woods is with his ex and I guess like, nobody cares, whatever. Okay.

• 55:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I, that's not what I thought. I thought you were gonna say the next headline, love is blind. Sarah Carton denies rumors she is dating Joey LeVile. She denies it, but Monica says it's true.

• 55:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So we don't know. This is developing story. Maybe we'll talk about it more last week, but I could see it. I could see Sarah and Joey.

• 55:40Rayna Greenberg?

  She said that the four of us were essentially in a love triangle, her and Ben.

• 55:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, love square, that her and Ben and that Monica and Joey, like they did sort of cross date. Monica, she's denying it. Monica said, the whole time I was complaining to Sarah about him, she was with him. So she is not mincing words or being like, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. She's like, they're together.

• 56:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. I'm just gonna do two. These are in the same vein. Nikki Glaser is gonna return as host for the Golden Globes next year, obviously.

• 56:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Love to see it.

• 56:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you imagine? What if they didn't? And then Conan O'Brien is gonna return to the 2026 Oscars. He jokes, the only reason is to hear Adrian Brody finish his speech. Don't get me started on that. That was the worst thing. Monopolization of people's time. Okay.

• 56:26Rayna Greenberg?

  And he was wearing his girlfriend's earring as a pin.

• 56:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  He threw his gum at her.

• 56:30Rayna Greenberg?

  She was into it though. She loved it. Harvey Weinstein's ex-wife. I'll throw a gum at her too.

• 56:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Him throwing his gum and then speaking nonsense for six minutes.

• 56:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. All right. And finally, Bad Bunny strips down in new Calvin Klein underwear ads. They're too hot.

• 56:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  They would be on my ceiling if I was in middle school. Right? Like they would be like wallpaper in my bedroom.

• 56:54Rayna Greenberg?

  They're too sexy.

• 56:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like I used to cut up Abercrombie bags and they would be like on my walls. Cause those like sexy models, like this would be, he's so hot.

• 57:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you remember the Abercrombie catalog?

• 57:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, girl.

• 57:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, the catalog.

• 57:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  For like the OG thing I masturbated to.

• 57:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 57:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Original porn.

• 57:11Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I didn't masturbate to men until I was like in my 30s.

• 57:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Well, he looks incredible and I love this. Calvin Klein loves a little bit of a short king, right?

• 57:22Rayna Greenberg?

  How, got money short?

• 57:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Isn't Jeremy Allen White like?

• 57:25Rayna Greenberg?

  But I know he's 5'11". Okay.

• 57:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. He's a normal size.

• 57:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Right. Unlike Justin Trudeau.

• 57:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Thoreau?

• 57:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Trudeau.

• 57:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Thoreau.

• 57:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Trudeau is the Canadian prime minister.

• 57:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which is the prime minister.

• 57:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Justin Thoreau. The actor Thoreau got married this week and I, I learned he was 5'9".

• 57:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't believe you didn't, I, that's what he looks like to me. He looks 5'9" to me.

• 57:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, you and I just talk all the time about how actors are so short and you don't know it. Cause he is the tallest person on Running Point.

• 57:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  You think?

• 57:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I think he's taller than his brothers.

• 57:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ness is so tall. He's the shortest brother.

• 57:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Is he?

• 57:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. He's the biggest brother. He's always in a scarf.

• 57:58Rayna Greenberg?

  The scarf?

• 57:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's the villain now.

• 57:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Scarf is so funny.

• 58:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Guys, we love Running Point so much. Did you finish it?

• 58:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 58:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, okay. So yes, okay. Spoiler alert.

• 58:05Rayna Greenberg?

  On Netflix, Running Point. Ashley and I love the show. Check it out.

• 58:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, guys, that's your snack. Hope you enjoyed. GirlsGottaEat.com for whatever you want to know about us. GirlsGottaEatPodcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess, Reina is Reina.Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.

• 58:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a good weekend, guys.

• 58:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.