The Roswell Alien Interview | Your Soul Has Been Here Thousands of Times

The Why Files releases video episodes on Spotify every Monday and Friday. And when you become a Spotify Premium subscriber, you get fewer ads – that means more story, less interruption. In 2007, a writer named Lawrence Spencer opened an envelope he didn't ask for. Inside were military documents from Roswell Army Air Field, dated 1947. Duty rosters, memos, Top Secret stamps. And buried near the bottom, transcripts of interviews with a subject the US Army couldn't communicate with using any conventional method. No translator worked. No known language matched. The only person who could reach the subject was a nurse named Matilda MacElroy — and she did it without saying a word. The woman who sent Spencer the envelope was 83 years old and weeks from death. She had kept silent for six decades under threat of execution. Whatever she heard during those six weeks at Roswell, she carried alone. The people who knew her story were gone. The documents were supposed to stay buried. She decided that wasn't good enough. What Matilda described in those transcripts doesn't just challenge what we know about Roswell. It challenges what we know about Earth, about consciousness, and about every life we think we've lived. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:31AJ Gentile?

  In 2007, Lawrence Spencer found a thick envelope in his mailbox. It was full of military documents from the 1940s. Some were routine duty rosters and schedule memos. Some were stamped "top secret." But all were from Roswell Army Airfield. Spencer also found transcripts of strange interviews. At first, they couldn't communicate with the subject. The military brought in translators, scientists, even cryptographers, but nothing worked. Finally, they learned the only way to communicate was telepathically. And there were pages of predictions, warnings, strange technology, and a secret war. Nothing made sense. Then Spencer found a page that explained everything.

• 1:12AJ Gentile?

  It said, "Roswell AAF, 509th Bomb Group, Alien Interview, July 8, 1947."

• 1:26AJ Gentile?

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• 1:44AJ Gentile?

  Matilda McElroy was a nurse in the US Army, and she had a secret. A secret that could get her killed, so she kept her mouth shut. Then she got cancer. With only a few weeks to live, Matilda packed up a stack of military documents and nailed them to Lawrence Spencer. She read his book about unexplained phenomena, the Oz Factors. She decided he was the only person who might take her seriously. Her letter was handwritten and desperate.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  I have kept this secret for 60 years. Now I'm 84 years old. I decided to tell this story because I think people should know the truth.

• 2:21AJ Gentile?

  Her story started July 8th, 1947. Matilda was a flight nurse with the Women's Army Air Force, assigned to the 509th Bomb Group at Roswell. When she got to base that morning, she knew something happened. There were armed guards at places that didn't have guards yesterday. Unfamiliar faces everywhere. Some wore uniforms, some wore suits, but all of them seemed nervous. Matilda was on her way to the station hospital when two MPs asked her to follow them. They were polite enough, but she knew it wasn't a request. A colonel met her at the entrance of a hangar. He told her that a craft came down in the desert. They recovered a survivor, but it wasn't responding to communication. Her job was to determine if it needed medical attention. Matilda thought it was strange he used the word "if."

• 3:06AJ Gentile?

  She had no idea what "it" could be, until they went into a dimly lit room at the back of the hangar. And there in the corner, sitting on a small chair, was... a being. About three feet tall, gray skin, large head, no hair. Three fingers on each hand, no nose, no mouth, no ears. Its body didn't look biological, more like a doll made of plastic or rubber. No internal organs, no reproductive system.

• 3:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, hairless, plastic doll body with no reproductive system. Uh, sounds like it was just, uh, Ken.

• 3:37AJ Gentile?

  Please, I don't need Mattel's lawyers coming after me.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  Fine, fine, fine. Hairless, plastic doll body with no reproductive system. Sounds like that thing you got hidden in your closet.

• 3:46AJ Gentile?

  Okay, can I get back to-

• 3:47Speaker 03

  Technically, your doll kinda has a reproductive system.

• 3:50AJ Gentile?

  That's enough.

• 3:51Speaker 03

  Help!

• 3:53AJ Gentile?

  The men were treating it like a problem to solve. Matilda treated it like a patient. She walked over calmly and sat down next to it. No visible injuries, no bleeding. Whatever this thing was, it didn't seem to be in pain. She leaned forward to speak, and before she opened her mouth, a thought entered her mind. But the thought wasn't hers. Not injured. The body I occupy is not-

• 4:16Speaker 04

  A body such as yours. I do not require food or atmosphere, but I need water.

• 4:23AJ Gentile?

  Matilda expected to be afraid, but she wasn't. The thoughts were calm, familiar even. She sensed this being was female and she wasn't dangerous. Matilda introduced herself with a thought, and the being responded the same way.

• 4:37Speaker 04

  I am called Arrow. You are the only one here who does not hide their thoughts from me.

• 4:42AJ Gentile?

  She interviewed Arrow for six weeks. The transcripts filled hundreds of pages. Arrow told Matilda about a war. A war that had been going on for thousands of years, across thousands of galaxies. A war that most humans didn't know about.

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• 5:26AJ Gentile?

  And couldn't. Because, according to Arrow, humans aren't what they think they are. Not even close.

• 5:44AJ Gentile?

  Matilda spent six weeks telepathically communicating with an alien being who called herself Arrow. Arrow was an officer from The Domain. A civilization that controlled about one quarter of the physical universe. Not the galaxy, the universe.

• 5:59Speaker 04

  The Domain has operated in this region of space for trillions of years. Our civilization is ancient, above all others. Our only goal is to progress.

• 6:10AJ Gentile?

  The Domain operated on planets, moons, and asteroids across thousands of galaxies, but they weren't alone. An older civilization called The Old Empire had controlled this region of space for a very long time. And The Old Empire ran things differently. Where The Domain expanded through exploration, The Old Empire maintained control through force. Nuclear weapons, electronic warfare, and mind control on a planetary scale.

• 6:36Speaker 03

  Mind control on a planetary scale, wow. I think the CIA just lit a cigarette and said, "That usually doesn't happen that fast."

• 6:45AJ Gentile?

  The two civilizations fought for thousands of years. Eventually, the Domain won. The war was over. Or it should have been. The problem was, the Old Empire had bases, equipment, and automated systems scattered across thousands of worlds. Most shut down when the government fell, but some systems kept running on their own. And one of them was in our solar system.

• 7:08AJ Gentile?

  Errol was sent to investigate. Her craft was hit by an electrical discharge that knocked out navigation. She crashed outside Roswell.

• 7:17AJ Gentile?

  Matilda asked how she survived the crash. Why wasn't she injured or in pain?

• 7:23Speaker 04

  I am an ISBE. An immortal spiritual being. An ISBE exists as pure awareness. We can create, move, and perceive across any distance. We only use physical form as a tool.

• 7:37AJ Gentile?

  So bodies are optional. Errol's people put one on for a mission, then took it off when the job was done. The gray body sitting in that chair at Roswell was just a vehicle. Errol explained that every conscious being in the universe is an immortal spiritual being. Even humans. But Matilda said humans aren't immortal, and they obviously can't project their consciousness anywhere in the universe.

• 8:03Speaker 04

  You can, and you have for many years. But not since you were sent here.

• 8:10AJ Gentile?

  That's when Errol explained the truth about Earth. It wasn't a planet. It was a prison.

• 8:25AJ Gentile?

  Errol said all humans are ISBEs, and we're traveling the universe as pure consciousness for thousands, or even millions of years. We even have memories of our infinite lives, but we're cut off from our abilities because Earth is a prison. The Old Empire built the prison around 8,000 B.C. and started filling it. Political dissidents, artists, free thinkers, anyone the regime considered dangerous. The Old Empire called them Untouchables. That's us.

• 8:53Speaker 03

  They put free thinkers in prison? It sounds like Facebook in 2021.

• 8:57AJ Gentile?

  It does.

• 8:57Speaker 03

  You're a candidate today.

• 8:58AJ Gentile?

  Okay.

• 8:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, niggling.

• 9:00AJ Gentile?

  I got it.

• 9:02AJ Gentile?

  Billions of us dumped on a backwater planet at the edge of the galaxy. Placed into fragile bodies that suffer, age, and die.

• 9:11AJ Gentile?

  Death should set the spirit free, but a shield around the solar system prevents escape. If Earth was the prison, the shield was the fence. Errol described each step the way an engineer describes a machine. When a person dies, the shield detects the spirit and pulls it into a processing station. There, memories are wiped, not just of the last life, of every previous life. Gone. Then the Old Empire runs a second program: hypnotic implants. They project images directly into the spirit's awareness: a tunnel of light, dead loved ones, spiritual guides. That's why all near-death experiences sound the same across cultures. It's in the programming. None of it's real.

• 9:54AJ Gentile?

  It's a recycling system disguised as an afterlife. Then memories are implanted: creation stories and moral codes designed to trigger guilt and obedience. Once the spirit is wiped and reprogrammed, it's sent back to Earth in a new infant body. Die, forget, return. This was control that spanned across lifetimes.

• 10:15Speaker 03

  Control across lifetimes? Ugh, sounds like my ex-wife's wet dream.

• 10:19AJ Gentile?

  Which ex-wife?

• 10:20Speaker 03

  Oh, treat 'em! Perpetuity is their love language.

• 10:25AJ Gentile?

  Every religion, every war, every system of power, all part of the prison design. Even rapid biological aging is a containment tool. The Domain conquered the Old Empire thousands of years ago, but the Earth Prison operates on its own. Its systems are still active. But Errol said there is a way out. You have to do the one thing the entire prison is built to prevent: you have to remember.

• 11:03AJ Gentile?

  Errol said the real history behind the prison, the planet, everything was much more complicated than we thought. We were part of an intergalactic space opera and didn't know it. Biological life on Earth wasn't natural, none of it. Every species on the planet was designed, manufactured, and shipped here by galactic corporations billions of years ago. One company, and Errol used this name, was called Bugs and Blossoms. They made insects and flowers. Another company built the larger animals. And these weren't science experiments or research, they were products. Even predator-prey relationships were a marketing scheme. If your company sold gazelles, you also sold lions. More species sold, more profit. Sexual reproduction was a cost-cutting measure.

• 11:49AJ Gentile?

  Instead of constantly replacing organisms when they died, you just let them replace themselves. And Earth's greatest minds weren't homegrown either. They were reincarnated ISBs. Their genius was bleed-through from their previous lives as some of the finest officers in the Domain. Leonardo da Vinci sketched flying machines and submarines 400 years before anyone could build them. Mozart composed complete symphonies as a child. Nikola Tesla built machines the rest of the world wouldn't understand for decades. Errol said they weren't inventing, they were remembering.

• 12:23Speaker 03

  Justice for Salieri!

• 12:25AJ Gentile?

  What?

• 12:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, Matthias?

• 12:26AJ Gentile?

  Oh, right. F. Murray Abraham was great in that.

• 12:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, but his name is unfortunate. It just sounds like someone is mad at Murray Abraham.

• 12:35AJ Gentile?

  Thousands of Domain officers had been captured and dumped on Earth over the centuries. Trained pilots, engineers, specialists. Errol called them "The Lost Battalion."

• 12:47AJ Gentile?

  Matilda felt a sudden wave of emotion. Guilt, anger, resentment, emotions she couldn't explain. Errol sensed this and placed a gentle thought in Matilda's mind.

• 12:58Speaker 04

  The feelings you are having are understandable. This is because you know I am telling you the truth. You know this because you lived it.

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• 13:38AJ Gentile?

  According to Errol, one of the trapped officers of the Lost Battalion was the nurse sitting across the table.

• 13:53AJ Gentile?

  Eight thousand years ago, the Old Empire was gone. But the prison system in our solar system was still running autonomously.

• 14:01AJ Gentile?

  The Domain deployed a specialized battalion to shut it down. Three thousand officers and engineers built a base high in the Himalayas. The mountains kept them out of sight. Their mission was not to interfere with humans. Their mission was to free them. They spent months mapping the solar system. They identified the processing stations, scanning equipment, and Old Empire technology that was hidden for years. The officers finally had a plan to take the system down. Then, they were detected. The automated defenses didn't see them as citizens of the Domain. They were seen as escaped inmates. All three thousand were captured and processed. They were wiped, reprogrammed, then loaded into human bodies. The officers were sent into the general population.

• 14:45AJ Gentile?

  The Domain called them the Lost Battalion, and they are still here, walking among us, with no idea who they really are. Matilda was one of the captured officers. Her ability to communicate telepathically wasn't just random talent. It was training that bled through the amnesia.

• 15:00Speaker 03

  Training that bled through? So she's like Jason Bourne? But instead of karate, she got the vibes?

• 15:07AJ Gentile?

  Telepathy.

• 15:08Speaker 03

  Potato, potato.

• 15:09AJ Gentile?

  Her instinct to approach the alien with compassion, her sense of something familiar, her knowledge that Errol wasn't a threat, these were echoes of her former life. The Domain searched for the lost battalion for thousands of years, using equipment to detect spiritual energy. But centuries of reincarnation scattered that energy across billions of lifetimes. Identification was almost impossible. Matilda was the breakthrough. Through her contact with Errol, she started recovering memories of her original identity. She saw images of spacecraft. She understood technology she couldn't explain in English. She recognized the techniques the prison used to keep her asleep. For the first time in 8,000 years, a captured Domain officer knew who she really was.

• 15:53AJ Gentile?

  But that created a problem, because now, the military knew it too.

• 16:11AJ Gentile?

  Over six weeks, Matilda and Errol rebuilt something the prison had destroyed 8,000 years ago: a connection between two Domain officers. But Errol shared knowledge that put them both at risk. The military recorded every word Matilda said, but what they couldn't record was the telepathy itself, the communication that happened before Matilda spoke out loud. The stenographer got what Matilda chose to share, the rest was invisible. That arrangement worked as long as the military trusted Matilda. Eventually, that trust ran out. On August 12th, they separated Matilda from Errol. They wanted the alien on their own terms: no nurse, no telepathy. But Errol wouldn't cooperate, so the military decided to use force.

• 16:55AJ Gentile?

  Matilda watched from behind the glass partition. They brought in electroshock equipment and attached probes to Errol's head. They started low. When she didn't respond, they increased the current.

• 17:08AJ Gentile?

  Electroshock. The military thought they were innovating. It was the same tool the Old Empire used to wipe memories. Errol didn't resist, didn't react. She looked at Matilda one last time through the glass and then she was gone. One second, awareness behind those large eyes, and the next, nothing. Just a lifeless gray doll on a table. The military spent hours trying to bring her back, but nothing worked. And Matilda knew nothing would. She wasn't sad that Errol was gone. She was relieved. And the military noticed. Whatever Errol shared with Matilda during those six weeks, whether it was written down or not, could never be revealed. She was forced to sign documents swearing absolute secrecy.

• 17:50AJ Gentile?

  If she ever spoke a word, she'd be convicted of treason and put to death. So she signed.

• 17:55Speaker 03

  1947. The government covers up Roswell. They silence a telepathic nurse. Jackie Robinson breaks the color barrier. Big year for black ops. What?

• 18:06AJ Gentile?

  Eventually, Matilda returned to civilian life. Over the years, she had brief telepathic contact with Errol. She was able to piece together memories of her old life as a domain officer. She understood the technology and the techniques the prison used to keep us trapped. She knew how to help, but time was running out. She was 83. Her body was failing. Soon she would die and lose her knowledge of the domain and the Old Empire. She would lose her ability to break the cycle. By 2007, she was out of time. The package she sent to Lawrence Spencer was a desperate and final attempt.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  I'll be recycled through the amnesia process and stuck back into another baby body to start all over again, without any memory of what went before. These documents must be published.

• 18:55AJ Gentile?

  In 2008, Spencer released the transcripts as Alien Interview. It became one of the most famous alien contact cases in UFO history. But Matilda didn't live long enough to see it. She died before the book was released. The system that imprisoned her for thousands of years had pulled her back in, wiped, reprogrammed, and sent back to Earth. So there's someone out there right now... who has Matilda's memories and the knowledge of thousands of lifetimes. She would be about seventeen or eighteen years old. She might be working a summer job, studying for finals, stressing about college. Most nights she scrolls through her phone, watching videos, texting with friends. But on those rare quiet nights, I bet she has a strange feeling that she's part of

• 19:38AJ Gentile?

  something bigger, that she's important, that she has a purpose that she can't explain. She has no idea that somewhere buried deep in her consciousness, underneath the homework.

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• 20:18AJ Gentile?

  On the drama and the phone that never stops, she has the knowledge to save the world.

• 20:36AJ Gentile?

  Alien Interview was a hit. People couldn't put it down. Some said the book didn't feel like reading, it felt like remembering. People wanted to know more about Matilda. What was her life like after Roswell? Does she have children or grandchildren? And the question everyone asked, who was Matilda now? In what body? Where? And if they could find her, they could help her remember. If they worked together, maybe we could finally be free of the prison. The first thing they looked for was her service record. It didn't exist. The military had no record of Matilda O'Donnell McElroy. But according to the book, she changed her name and was put into witness protection. She couldn't be tracked by name. But maybe there were clues in the transcripts, and there were.

• 21:21AJ Gentile?

  But there were also small problems. The transcript used words like "computer" and "database" in 1947. Those terms weren't common until the 1960s. The date stamps used European formatting: day first, then month, instead of American military style. An army nurse writing classified reports wouldn't format dates this way. But Spencer said he edited some of the material for clarity, but didn't change the content. So it's possible his additions included some modern language. Then a reader caught something in Chapter 11. In an interview dated July 9, 1947, Errol mentioned Jonas Salk as an example of great human genius. Salk was alive in 1947, but he wasn't that well-known. He was just a medical researcher.

• 22:06AJ Gentile?

  He didn't become famous until 1955, when he developed the polio vaccine. But maybe Errol had a different concept of time. She was pure consciousness who could travel anywhere in the universe. Maybe she could move through time too. Most people were satisfied with these explanations, but some weren't. The real problems began when researchers cross-referenced Errol's claims against other books. All the evidence was pointing in the same direction. Lawrence Spencer made the whole thing up. But the truth is, he didn't.

• 22:50AJ Gentile?

  Readers were outraged. Was the book fact or fiction? Did Errol exist? Was Matilda a real person? Well, Spencer said Matilda was real. He even spoke to her on the phone for 20 minutes. She died a few months later. Now, that seemed too convenient. Skeptics wanted to see the documents Matilda sent, but Spencer destroyed them: the transcripts, the letters, all of it.

• 23:13Speaker 05

  I burned all the original documents. I don't want to spend the rest of my life being hounded by UFO researchers or government agents.

• 23:19Speaker 03

  He destroyed the evidence. That's not what an innocent man does. That's what a Clinton does.

• 23:25AJ Gentile?

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, what is our rule?

• 23:26Speaker 03

  We don't joke about the Clintons.

• 23:28AJ Gentile?

  Right.

• 23:29Speaker 03

  Did he also smash his computer with a hammer?

• 23:31AJ Gentile?

  That's enough.

• 23:32Speaker 03

  Sorry, sorry, I couldn't help myself. Go on, go on.

• 23:36AJ Gentile?

  So, the witness was dead and the only physical evidence was destroyed. Spencer was now in full defensive mode. He went on radio shows and said the interview really happened. He corrected anyone who said he wrote the book. He was only the editor. He just published what Matilda sent him. But to put any final doubts to rest, Spencer wrote a sequel. The book Domain: Expeditionary Force Rescue Mission came out in 2011. It was labeled as science fiction. This time, Matilda is rescued from the prison planet and back on active duty with the Domain. Same characters, same mythology. Immortal spiritual beings trapped in physical bodies, given amnesia and recycled into new lives. Now, these were common sci-fi tropes.

• 24:18AJ Gentile?

  So were implants, mind control, memory wipes. These details caught the attention of Bill Ryan, who went through Alien Interview line by line. Ryan was a UFO researcher and the founder of Project Avalon. The more Ryan studied Alien Interview, the more familiar it sounded. Doll bodies, implant stations between lives, the galactic war between rival civilizations, the prison planet, religions designed as alien control tools, all described as a space opera. These concepts weren't unique. They were

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• 25:20AJ Gentile?

  stolen, in some cases, word for word. And Bill Ryan knew exactly where they came from. The Church of Scientology.

• 25:38AJ Gentile?

  Spencer's book thanked Wikipedia in the acknowledgements. He said the material relied heavily on its page about Roswell. Thanking Wikipedia is not a good sign. And in 2000, he sent an email to Graham Hancock where he admitted he'd been a Scientologist for 31 years. He said a good deal of his earlier book applied the principles of L. Ron Hubbard. Now, he was talking about the Oz Factors, but that tells the whole story. Spencer spent most of his life as a Scientologist. His first book applied Hubbard's principles through the lens of the Wizard of Oz. His second book applied the same principles through the lens of Roswell. And remember, his first book, The Oz Factors, was the book Matilda read. It was the reason she chose Spencer as the one person who might take her seriously.

• 26:22AJ Gentile?

  The origin story of the entire case traced back to a book based on Scientology.

• 26:28Speaker 03

  And so the whole thing is a conspiracy based on a religion, based on a sci-fi writer. This is like an L. Ron Hubbard turducken.

• 26:36AJ Gentile?

  I don't see.

• 26:37Speaker 03

  Where's Joey?

• 26:41AJ Gentile?

  But choosing Roswell for his next book was a good idea. The UFO community spent decades collecting real testimony from real people who were actually at Roswell. Military officers, intelligence agents, morticians, nurses, people who came forward at the end of their lives with nothing to gain and plenty to lose. Those witnesses exist. Their stories overlap in ways that are hard to dismiss. Spencer used that real mystery as his foundation. He built fiction on top of facts that makes it feel real and grounded. And look, millions of people love this book. The reviews are amazing. People described reading it in one sitting. More than a few said the story matched their memories. One person called it "the most important book ever written."

• 27:25AJ Gentile?

  These people felt something. The source material was fake, but the emotion was real. The prison planet idea does something most explanations of life don't do. It tells you your suffering has a cause. Your limitations are artificial. You're not a random biological accident on an unremarkable rock. You're an immortal being with suppressed power, trapped by forces beyond your control. And someday, if enough people wake up, the prison walls come down.

• 27:59AJ Gentile?

  It's a beautiful idea, but it's made up. But maybe that's the real lesson. Not that we got fooled, but that we were so ready to be. Spencer succeeded because people want a reason for why life is so hard. A guy who lost his wife to cancer reads this book and thinks, maybe she's still out there somewhere, trapped in the cycle, just waiting to remember. A kid who never fit in thinks maybe she's something more than what the world tells her she is. That's not gullibility, that's hope. And maybe that's enough. We all know how this ends. Nobody gets out alive. And knowing that can feel like a curse. But it also means that every day you get is important.

• 28:43AJ Gentile?

  So don't waste time looking for a prison to blame or a cycle to break. Focus on joy right now. If you treat every day like it's your last, knowing you're gonna die isn't a curse, it's a gift. So treat it like one.

• 29:06AJ Gentile?

  Thank you so much for hanging out with me today. My name is AJ, that's Hecklefish.

• 29:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm saying hello telepathically right now. Hello? Nobody?

• 29:17AJ Gentile?

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• 30:00AJ Gentile?

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• 30:44AJ Gentile?

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• 31:28AJ Gentile?

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  Grab a heck of a t-shirt. Oh, one of these fistable coffee mugs. You can stick your fist in. Uh, or if you got one of the plastic toy dolls that the human has in his closet, you can, you can stick your it's fist in there too. Uh, I'm not here to judge you. Oh, grab one of these squeezy. Oh, look how adorable it is. You gotta get yourself one of these squeezy animal. Tuck it, hecklefish. Toodles.

• 32:04AJ Gentile?

  But if you're gonna buy merch, make sure you become a member on YouTube. Hear me out. YouTube members get 10% off everything in the Yfile store forever. You get a new code every month. So if you're gonna go over there and spend 40 bucks on t-shirts and fistable coffee mugs...

• 32:18AJ Gentile?

  If you know, you know. If you're gonna do that, become a member, get the code, and it pays for itself. And if you wanna cancel, that's totally fine. I don't keep any of that money, it goes to the team. So the membership is a way to save you money, not make me money.

• 32:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, keep that secret close to your doorstep, eh?

• 32:32AJ Gentile?

  Those are the plugs. My throat is sore from all those, but I think they're gonna get longer every week. I appreciate it if you stuck around this far. Until next time, be safe, be kind, and know that you are appreciated.

• 34:36Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 34:45Speaker 06

  The Mothman sightings and the solar storms still come To have got the secret city underground. Mysterious number stations, planets circle to Project Stargate And what the Dark Watchers found. In a simulation, don't you worry though. The Black Knight said a lot and told me so. I can't believe I'm dancing with a fish. Head to fish on Thursday nights with AJ2 And one more time for me all through the night. All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth.

• 35:28Speaker 06

  So one more time for me all through the night. Head to fish on Thursday nights with AJ2 And one more time for me all through the night. All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth. So one more time for me all through the night.

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