#2572 - Colum Tyrrell

Colum Tyrrell is a comedian, streamer, and co-host of the "Cockfight" podcast with Lev Fer and Tristan Bowling. His new hour-long comedy special premieres October 28 on YouTube. He is currently on tour.www.youtube.com/@ColumTyrrellwww.patreon.com/CockFightPodwww.columtyrrell.com Try Perplexity Computer now: https://pplx.ai/joerogan 50% off your first box at https://www.thefarmersdog.com/rogan! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:12Speaker 00

  What's the story?

• 0:12Joe Rogan?

  Good to see you, brother. What's happening?

• 0:14Speaker 00

  I'm great, man.

• 0:15Joe Rogan?

  Thanks for doing this, man.

• 0:16Speaker 00

  Thanks for having me.

• 0:17Joe Rogan?

  My pleasure. I'm excited to talk to you.

• 0:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, so I was so nervous about my special these last couple of weeks that I don't even think I was really even thinking about this at all. So probably kind of worked as a nice distraction. Because if I didn't have anything else going on, this would have just been over my head all the time.

• 0:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. I know. It fucks people up the first time they do it. After you do it a couple of times, you're like, we're just hanging out.

• 0:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 0:40Joe Rogan?

  But in the beginning, it's a mind fuck.

• 0:42Speaker 00

  This is a global scale for me.

• 0:43Joe Rogan?

  It's me, too. I try not to think about it.

• 0:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, because all I'm thinking now is like, we'll say something about fucking Sydney Sweeney's tits and that I gotta get a phone call off my mother.

• 0:55Joe Rogan?

  Did you see how those women that they interviewed these women and they asked them what was a worse impact on women in society? Whether it was Lyndy Clancy or Sydney Sweeney? What was worse for women? And they almost like, I mean, I don't know where they went. Obviously, it's a biased sampling group, but all these women were saying Sydney Sweeney.

• 1:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, really?

• 1:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:16Speaker 00

  Hmm. They just want to cluck each, they want to just peck each other to death.

• 1:19Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. That's what it is.

• 1:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, because she really made it out of the swamp. She made it out of the swamp.

• 1:24Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:25Speaker 00

  She's like, as famous as you could possibly be, just mostly because of her tits, really.

• 1:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:32Speaker 00

  Actually, you know what? I always thought she was a good actor in a couple of the things, Euphoria and stuff.

• 1:37Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh. She's just too hot. They don't like it.

• 1:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, but she's also kind of not like crazy strikingly beautiful. So there's something that makes her even more popular, you know?

• 1:48Joe Rogan?

  Really? You think so?

• 1:49Speaker 00

  I don't think she's like a catwalk model. She's not like a Victoria's Secret model. She, her face is a little...

• 1:54Joe Rogan?

  Let's take a look at her first.

• 1:55Speaker 00

  Honestly, this is horrible, but I'm not...

• 1:57Joe Rogan?

  We're not getting rude.

• 1:58Speaker 00

  I'm not in the business...

• 1:59Joe Rogan?

  We're not getting rude. I'm gonna defend her. I think she's hot as the sun.

• 2:02Speaker 00

  So do I. I think she's as attractive as the sun. She's attractive.

• 2:08Joe Rogan?

  The short thing matters with men, but does it really matter with women? Like whether or not you think they're... Oh, for models.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was just saying for model. That's all.

• 2:15Joe Rogan?

  Right, but as to whether or not she's attractive, she's fucking beautiful, man.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would disagree with the previous statements.

• 2:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about, dog.

• 2:23Speaker 00

  I'm not saying I'm a beautiful man by any means, but so don't get this twisted.

• 2:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, I'm definitely not either, so...

• 2:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. So once we said that, now let's rip her to shreds. Let's go.

• 2:31Joe Rogan?

  She's pretty fucking hot, dude.

• 2:33Speaker 00

  She, she really is.

• 2:35Joe Rogan?

  I mean, I don't know how you could say that's not a 10. That girl right there is hot as the fucking sun.

• 2:41Speaker 00

  You are right.

• 2:41Joe Rogan?

  She's hot.

• 2:42Speaker 00

  I changed my mind.

• 2:43Joe Rogan?

  Ladies don't like it. They just don't like when a woman has that kind of power. Because they know that too much of being a woman, at least in America, at least in 2026, I'm sorry, but too much of it resides on whether or not you are attractive to the opposite sex.

• 2:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:59Joe Rogan?

  When women walk into a room, they like to be the most attractive person in the room. And you fucking know, if you walk in a room and that bitch walks in, everyone's gonna look at her.

• 3:08Speaker 00

  She's, yeah, she is the typical bombshell blonde, big tits, and all the guys see her, we all go, "How long?"

• 3:15Joe Rogan?

  Big, real ones. That's the thing.

• 3:17Speaker 00

  Also, it must be weird for her to be in a world where just people are, I guess, so obsessed with her looks, kind of, you know?

• 3:24Joe Rogan?

  Well, I mean, she's putting it out there, right? She's doing that sports ads commercial with footballs over her tits.

• 3:29Speaker 00

  She has her own like gambling app now and stuff like that.

• 3:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think she's probably working with one. Boy, if there's anything that's like the most controversial thing in, one of the most controversial things today is gambling ads and whether or not gambling should be legal. Some people are like fully against gambling being legal. And I'm like, boy, I don't understand that.

• 3:51Speaker 00

  I grew up with gambling. Gambling's legal in Ireland. It always was. But then we had a, like a bookie's, which was like attached to the pub nearly everywhere you'd go. So you'd have to physically go in there and ride on a slip and you could bet on the horses and stuff like that. And it seemed to be relatively managed well. But I think, first of all, the phones are a disaster. And then you add gambling to the phones. I've heard a lot of stories of people like throwing shit away because the phones are addictive no matter what. And then they, you'd be putting a bet on basketball and it'll go, "Bling, you just won a free blackjack. Why don't you play blackjack?" And then you'll be there for an hour and you've lost $500.

• 4:29Joe Rogan?

  Right. Or don't do that. That's the thing. It's like, shouldn't you be able to have a balanced life and also bet 500 bucks on a game that you care about?

• 4:38Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 4:39Joe Rogan?

  If you're a regular person with a regular job and you're not insane, and you go, "Oh, shit, the Knicks are playing tonight. I think they're gonna fucking take it. Let's go." And you throw a $500 bet on it and it makes it exciting for you. You got something riding on it. Come on, fuck yeah! Woo! People like that. I don't know why we're supposed to take that away because some people can't control it. And look, I've said this many times. I've talked about this, from the time I was 23 till I was like 25, I lived in a pool hall.

• 5:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:09Joe Rogan?

  Like, I lived playing pool and hanging out with gamblers. I know gambling addicts. Yeah. I know like legitimate gambling addicts. They gamble, they'll gamble on raindrops coming down a window.

• 5:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, now you can. Polly market. Pull it out.

• 5:25Joe Rogan?

  And I understand why some people would have a problem with it, but don't do it if you have a problem with it. That's what I don't understand. Like, what, we're micromanaging every single aspect of society and turning it into a nanny state. I feel like you should be able to drink. I mean, look, I think you should be able to do drugs. And I think they should be legal. And I think we should be able to sell real drugs. So you shouldn't have to worry about getting fentanyl overdoses.

• 5:49Speaker 00

  You think you could get coke at 7-Eleven?

• 5:51Joe Rogan?

  Not 7-Eleven. Maybe at the liquor store.

• 5:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, but then, now, but now that's the same argument where I go, "Well, why can't I? Because I can control my coke. I should be allowed to buy it at 7-Eleven."

• 5:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Okay, well, you can get booze at 7-Eleven, so fair point. I mean, what is the, can you get like hard liquor at 7-Eleven?

• 6:06Speaker 00

  By the way, you can get coke outside of 7-Eleven. Every single 7-Eleven.

• 6:10Joe Rogan?

  You can also die. You can take a fucking ecstasy pill.

• 6:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, but that's kind of part of the fun of drugs is gone.

• 6:16Joe Rogan?

  Today, it's the part of the gamble.

• 6:18Speaker 00

  Where people go, "Is that safe?" You go, "Ah."

• 6:20Joe Rogan?

  Probably.

• 6:21Speaker 00

  Could be. You let me know.

• 6:22Joe Rogan?

  She did it an hour ago and she's right there.

• 6:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's the canary.

• 6:27Joe Rogan?

  She's dancing, like, seems okay. Yeah, it's fucking weird. What were you gonna say, Jamie?

• 6:35Speaker 02

  It depends on the state. State liquor laws are different everywhere. Like in California, I think you could buy them in the grocery store.

• 6:40Joe Rogan?

  You buy like Jack Daniels?

• 6:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:42Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 6:43Speaker 00

  I get, yeah, but...

• 6:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, Jack Daniels in the grocery store makes sense, but does it make sense in 7-Eleven?

• 6:48Speaker 02

  But then there's different, like the, some gas stations would have like liquor stores attached to them and some wouldn't. And then it just depends.

• 6:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's weird because like I live in New Jersey, so I, we can't buy certain booze at grocery stores. So you have to go, but like, it doesn't really make sense because you can buy some things here, some things there.

• 7:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, I lived in Massachusetts when I was a kid and we would have to go to New Hampshire for booze on Sunday.

• 7:13Speaker 00

  Of course, you had to go.

• 7:16Joe Rogan?

  Massachusetts had booze laws. They had, what is it, blue laws? Is that what it's called? There's laws on Sunday where you weren't allowed to buy booze. That was the Lord's day, son of a bitch. Go to church, you piece of shit.

• 7:27Speaker 00

  Bunch of boys in a car, we're driving to New Hampshire.

• 7:29Joe Rogan?

  And...

• 7:30Speaker 00

  Crack them open on the way back.

• 7:31Joe Rogan?

  They would call them package stores. So we would call it the Packy. We're going to the Packy. And guys would take a fucking hour and a half. What does it mean up there? Oh, Pakistani?

• 7:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a bit of a slur for browns.

• 7:43Joe Rogan?

  No, for us, it was package store. I don't know how it became package store, but you'd have to go to New Hampshire.

• 7:49Speaker 00

  And you guys wouldn't just like buy a lot on Saturday?

• 7:52Joe Rogan?

  No, we're retarded. Fucking 18 years old.

• 7:55Speaker 00

  You did, but you drank it all, yeah.

• 7:56Joe Rogan?

  Know what the fuck we're doing.

• 7:57Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 7:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there was some guy who was 21. He was driving. But yeah, you'd have to go all the way.

• 8:04Speaker 00

  Beer in between the legs?

• 8:04Joe Rogan?

  And there was no gambling. You would have to go to, back then, you'd have to go to Vegas to gamble. Or you'd have to find a bookie, an actual bookie, you know? An illegal bookie that was connected to the mob.

• 8:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:16Joe Rogan?

  That was the only way. Because you...

• 8:19Speaker 00

  But then you had to, you really had to work for your gambling. That's, and then I think you would probably think about your bets a little better.

• 8:26Joe Rogan?

  Would you? I doubt it.

• 8:27Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 8:28Joe Rogan?

  I doubt it.

• 8:28Speaker 00

  I've not, I've not met a mob boss and met a bet yet.

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• 10:39Joe Rogan?

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• 11:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:21Joe Rogan?

  I feel like we, what we really need is to teach people when they're very young, how to control impulses and the value of discipline. And that you can control your behavior and you can control your urges in terms of like gambling, alcohol. Like, there are people that are absolutely genetically addicted to alcohol and genetically addicted to other things. I'm not, but them aside, with a lot of people, it's a self-control issue. It's whether or not you choose to do a positive thing or choose to do a negative thing. And the thing is about gambling is I don't think it's always a negative thing. And I think for some people, it's fun and they like it.

• 11:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:59Joe Rogan?

  It makes it a little extra exciting and they're not ruining their life. So should they not be able to do it for people who do ruin their life?

• 12:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know. I always would place bets on like the Super Bowl, big games like that. Add a little something. I do the boxes at the bars, you know?

• 12:13Joe Rogan?

  Fun, right? Add a little something, I like it.

• 12:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, but now it's kinda seems like it's, a lot of just college kids are kinda just fucking, they're grown up where that's normalized to have like a certain amount of your money lost to gambling. And I guess we need to teach them not to be doing that.

• 12:29Joe Rogan?

  Do we? What remains today? The main surviving Texas Blue Wall restrictions concern alcohol sales and motor vehicle sales. Liquor stores close on Sundays and car dealers cannot sell vehicles on both Saturday and Sunday of the same weekend. What?

• 12:44Speaker 02

  Why, that's why I brought it up.

• 12:45Joe Rogan?

  Saturday and Sunday of the same weekend?

• 12:50Speaker 02

  So those are the ones that last, there was, I got into this because there's a long list of 42 very specific items that weren't allowed to be sold and that was repealed in like the 60s or 80s or something?

• 13:01Joe Rogan?

  This is for Texas?

• 13:02Speaker 02

  This was for Texas. I don't know about for every other state. It's just, it's also a very strange list of stuff.

• 13:09Joe Rogan?

  So what are the categories removed? These are things you couldn't sell?

• 13:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:13Joe Rogan?

  You couldn't sell electronics on Sunday?

• 13:16Speaker 02

  It was repealed in 1985.

• 13:18Joe Rogan?

  How weird is that? Electronics? That's the devil's work.

• 13:22Speaker 02

  Clothing, furniture, kitchen utensils.

• 13:24Joe Rogan?

  Footwear. Can't buy shoes on Sunday.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  So you couldn't go shopping, basically? Or you couldn't buy, I mean, you could go shopping, you could buy all things.

• 13:31Speaker 00

  These are all Texas laws?

• 13:32Speaker 03

  Jesus law, son. Jesus wants you to not sell guitars on a Sunday.

• 13:37Joe Rogan?

  There was medic, put that back up? That list? It's crazy. Musical instruments, recordings and toys. If your kid wants a fucking toy, you can't make your kid happy on a Sunday?

• 13:47Speaker 03

  They should be happy with Jesus.

• 13:49Speaker 00

  I've never really heard any of this.

• 13:51Joe Rogan?

  Certain tools and lawn mowers. What if your fucking lawnmower breaks on Sunday and you go, that's your day to mow the lawn?

• 13:58Speaker 02

  This says the same thing about they can't sell them on consecutive Saturdays and Sundays. They have to pick a day, which is fucking, that's so strange.

• 14:07Joe Rogan?

  What does that mean?

• 14:08Speaker 02

  How this got developed has gotta be a weird story. I'm sure, there has to be a reason, probably not a good one, but.

• 14:13Joe Rogan?

  The weird thing is like, if you couldn't buy liquor on Sunday, could you go to a restaurant and order a drink?

• 14:18Speaker 02

  Here you can order, I think only beer and wine. You can't order liquor. Or it's like after, before 10 or before 11 or something like that.

• 14:25Joe Rogan?

  You mean right now, today?

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 14:26Joe Rogan?

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So if you go to a restaurant on a Sunday and you try to order an Old Fashioned, they won't let you? That seems wrong.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  You cannot buy liquor from package stores on Sundays in Texas, but you can buy beer and wine at grocery and convenience stores starting at 10 a.m.

• 14:43Joe Rogan?

  What about restaurants?

• 14:45Speaker 02

  Can't serve alcohol, but ever just starting at 10 a.m. on Sunday, if the alcohol is sold along with the service of food.

• 14:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 14:50Speaker 02

  So you gotta buy food too.

• 14:51Speaker 00

  What?

• 14:52Speaker 02

  So you can't just be a bar selling liquor. You have, which is also, I guess I've been to, no, that's not right. I've been to a bar where they're watching, playing football and they're selling.

• 15:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, what about our bar?

• 15:00Speaker 00

  They probably have like a one chicken wing minimum, kinda just a loophole.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  They do have a food truck on premises.

• 15:06Joe Rogan?

  What about our bar? What about Mitzi's?

• 15:09Speaker 02

  We're not open that early.

• 15:10Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  Oh, but it's Sunday, I guess.

• 15:11Joe Rogan?

  It's Sunday, we're open on Sunday. Are we breaking the law?

• 15:15Speaker 03

  Breaking the law.

• 15:18Joe Rogan?

  Are we breaking the law?

• 15:19Speaker 02

  It says from 10 a.m. to noon.

• 15:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, just then.

• 15:21Speaker 03

  That's when you're supposed to be in church.

• 15:23Speaker 00

  So if you have breakfast, or sorry, if you want some mimosas, you have to order?

• 15:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's 10 a.m. to noon, no food required afternoon. Okay.

• 15:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so afternoon.

• 15:32Speaker 00

  Not being able to sit around waiting.

• 15:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 15:34Speaker 03

  Staring at the clock is fucking stupid law.

• 15:37Joe Rogan?

  That's the dumbest fucking law ever.

• 15:39Speaker 00

  I used, I, when, growing up in Ireland, I used to know lads like that would go down to the liquor store and they'd be waiting, like it was, they're releasing fucking tickets to like a concert. There'd be a line of people, like 9 a.m. on a Sunday, just sitting around waiting for the liquor stores to.

• 15:52Joe Rogan?

  Wow, they got up early.

• 15:53Speaker 00

  Well, no, they did not get up. They stayed up all night. Yeah, they went to the gym first and then fucking went for a, no, they stay up all night and then they'd go straight to the liquor store waiting.

• 16:05Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 16:05Speaker 00

  Or you had the early houses, they have them in New York sometimes too, the early houses.

• 16:09Joe Rogan?

  What's an early house?

• 16:10Speaker 00

  An early house has a special license where it can open at like 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock in the morning because it's usually in a port, so the old fishermen apparently would get in off their shift and then, so there used to be all these laws, you know, can't serve booze till 10 and they were like, well, we finish work at 6 a.m., so why can't I drink? So they would let individual spots.

• 16:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 16:29Speaker 00

  And they have a few of them in New York still. So when we were bartending, we would drink in the bar till 6, 7, then we'd get a taxi over to the early house and there'd be guys getting off work and we're all fucking steaming from the night before. We're wasted all night.

• 16:44Joe Rogan?

  New York is fun.

• 16:46Speaker 00

  It's so much fun.

• 16:47Joe Rogan?

  There's so much stuff to do. There's always something happening somewhere.

• 16:51Speaker 00

  It's, yeah, that's, that's actually why I moved here, was because I visited New York when I was younger, I was like 19, and I just fell in love with the opportunity of how much stuff there was to do. I was like, no matter, I feel like, no matter who you are, you can find your little tribe of people in New York.

• 17:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you can get a great meal at 4:00 in the morning.

• 17:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:10Joe Rogan?

  You can go to a restaurant and get a meal at 4:00 in the morning.

• 17:13Speaker 00

  A little bit of that's died down though, the restaurants, because of COVID, you know, all the diners were 24 hours and then COVID and it, it kinda stopped and it kinda fucked up a lot of shit.

• 17:22Joe Rogan?

  Fucking COVID.

• 17:23Speaker 00

  It kinda fucked up, can I take it as a compliment?

• 17:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. How long have you been over here for, in America?

• 17:27Speaker 00

  I've been here since 2014.

• 17:30Joe Rogan?

  Did you start comedy in Ireland?

• 17:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was doing comedy for like two years out there.

• 17:34Joe Rogan?

  What's it like out there? What's the scene?

• 17:36Speaker 00

  It's small, not many people out there. So it's like a small, it's like not that easy to make a living.

• 17:41Joe Rogan?

  Is, uh, is there clubs or is it open mics?

• 17:44Speaker 00

  Only really a couple of purposely built clubs. Most rooms are just like a room above a bar that's been converted and gray. And the crowds are incredible in Ireland. They're small and, and they're almost like doing a black room, because if you crush, you feel like a king and if you bomb, you will regret everything that ever led to that. The Irish will, you will bomb at the Irish and then just quickly someone goes, "Not funny!" And then you've got 15 more minutes going, "Fuck!", and he gets a big laugh and you go, "Oh, what about this other thing I saw?", you know?

• 18:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 18:16Speaker 00

  But if you're going well, they love you, yeah, yeah.

• 18:19Joe Rogan?

  And is there a lot of good comics over there?

• 18:22Speaker 00

  There's some great comics, yeah. A lot of them don't move out too much. They don't really get out of there.

• 18:27Joe Rogan?

  That's a problem.

• 18:27Speaker 00

  We got a couple of great guys. Well, there was, our biggest guy ever is probably Tommy Turnan.

• 18:32Joe Rogan?

  I've heard of him.

• 18:32Speaker 00

  Tommy was massive and he used to go all over. And then I think he got rocked for saying, he got like one of the first canceled guys back in 2006. He made a joke about, um, about Hitler didn't have enough ambition and that 6 million wasn't enough. And then, but he said it like casually on stage as a joke and then someone wrote a huge article about it and then they kinda fucked his whole touring over here, his agents, his managers, everyone dropped him. And then he just goes, "Fuck it, I'll stay in Dublin, I'll stay in Ireland because I got a fanbase here, my family, so..." Tommy's the best.

• 19:04Joe Rogan?

  So does he still perform in Ireland?

• 19:06Speaker 00

  Tom, yeah, yeah. But I think he kind of only sticks to that, that region. But he's, yeah, but he's a weird dude, like he's like, like an old witch type of a guy, like where he'll see, like he'll have a stick, he'll walk around with a stick and he'll hit you with a poem that doesn't make sense and then he, then he jumps back into a hedge. Like, he is a very interesting, he has a huge talk show in Ireland right now.

• 19:28Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 19:29Speaker 00

  Massive talk show, yeah, where he.

• 19:30Joe Rogan?

  On television?

• 19:30Speaker 00

  On television. They get a guest in that he doesn't know who the guest is, it's a surprise. So then he sits down and just like starts talking to them and tries to, he either knows them or just tries to figure out what they're doing, yeah.

• 19:40Joe Rogan?

  Huh, what's it called?

• 19:42Speaker 00

  Uh, The Tommy Turnan Show.

• 19:44Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 19:45Speaker 00

  So book me, maybe.

• 19:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 19:48Speaker 00

  I'd love to do it.

• 19:49Joe Rogan?

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• 20:30Joe Rogan?

  Get 50% off your first box of The Farmer's Dog at thefarmersdog.com/rogan. Plus, you can now add their human-grade crunchy biscuit treats to any plan. Try them today. So it's interesting, so he just said, "Fuck it, I'm gonna stay in Ireland."

• 20:47Speaker 00

  I think so, yeah.

• 20:47Joe Rogan?

  And he was touring all over the world before that?

• 20:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, like, he was huge, big, huge in Canada, big in Australia, he was doing the tours in America, had a Comedy Central hour at the time. And then, I think it was like a post-show live interview type of thing where someone,

• 21:03Joe Rogan?

  just one thing, fucking around?

• 21:04Speaker 00

  Someone actually asked a question, like, "Can you go too far as a joke?", and he said, "No." And then I think he used that as an example and some journalist just cherry picked that and said, "Anti-Semitic, whatever." Which is funny, because if he did it today, he'd be a fucking king, because the antisemitism's kind of been, it's kinda cool.

• 21:21Joe Rogan?

  It's in vogue.

• 21:22Speaker 00

  It's kinda cool.

• 21:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it made a comeback.

• 21:24Speaker 00

  It really did, yeah.

• 21:25Joe Rogan?

  As soon as Kanye started selling out stadiums again, everybody was like, "Wow."

• 21:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:30Joe Rogan?

  That dude had a diamond-crusted swastika made. By the way, where do you think he got the diamonds?

• 21:38Joe Rogan?

  Money bunny Joe.

• 21:41Speaker 00

  He goes, you what?

• 21:42Joe Rogan?

  Think he got him from the Italians?

• 21:44Speaker 00

  There's gotta be an upcharge on the swastika.

• 21:47Joe Rogan?

  We can make a deal.

• 21:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:48Joe Rogan?

  But we have to work something out. Gotta go into the back door.

• 21:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:53Joe Rogan?

  A fucking diamond encrusted swastika and the next thing you know, the dude's selling out stadiums again. Selling out enormous stadiums.

• 21:59Speaker 00

  Well, the music slaps.

• 22:01Joe Rogan?

  Slaps?

• 22:01Speaker 00

  Slap, the dude's.

• 22:03Joe Rogan?

  Nothing but bangers.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:04Joe Rogan?

  For fucking decades. That guy's been making bangers.

• 22:07Speaker 00

  When I say antisemitism too, I'm like kinda tongue in cheek joking about the Israel stuff, but like, he was actually doing some antisemitic stuff, right?

• 22:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah.

• 22:19Speaker 00

  He was actually, I don't know what he was doing, but he was, he had a song like, We Hire Hitler or something. What was the song?

• 22:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah. It was Heil Hitler. Yeah, that was the song. And he apologized for that.

• 22:31Speaker 00

  Didn't he have a song about sucking off his cousin at one point too?

• 22:35Joe Rogan?

  No, he posted about that on Instagram. That him and his cousin used to watch porn and he sucked his cousin's dick.

• 22:42Speaker 00

  He had a song. He's like, I gave my cousin head. I gave my cousin head.

• 22:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 22:46Speaker 00

  It was actually a banger, yeah. Again, it's like he goes, what am I, I'm so good. I'll make a song about sucking off my little cousin and it'll be, and it'll be great.

• 22:58Joe Rogan?

  They blew each other when they were like 14.

• 23:01Speaker 00

  That kinda happens.

• 23:02Joe Rogan?

  Watch porn and suck each other's dicks.

• 23:04Speaker 00

  That kinda happens, you know?

• 23:05Joe Rogan?

  I guess it does if it happened to him and clearly is a real thing. It's not like a, you know, UFO story where you're like, you gotta leave it up to.

• 23:14Joe Rogan?

  But then I believe something fantastical that you've never experienced before.

• 23:18Speaker 00

  I don't have the confidence to ever admit that would happen, let alone write a great song about it and release it, you know?

• 23:24Joe Rogan?

  And it's not like anybody confronted him with that information and he had to own up to it. No, he just posted it one day on Twitter.

• 23:32Speaker 00

  Awesome.

• 23:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think he said he sucked his cousin's dick for years.

• 23:37Speaker 00

  For years? No.

• 23:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he said it for years. Cousins, styled in all caps, is a song by American rapper Kanye West. It was released on April 21st, 2025, his intended second single from his unreleased studio album, Cuck.

• 23:55Joe Rogan?

  What a name. It first released on West's Twitter account before being sent to streaming platforms in April 2023. Hip hop song, it samples Were the Originals by Double Virgo and Interpolates 10 Perks by David Blunt and such. Okay.

• 24:14Joe Rogan?

  He was originally reluctant to write it, but has since reflected on how it positively impacted West.

• 24:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:20Joe Rogan?

  It was removed from streaming platforms November of 2025.

• 24:26Speaker 00

  But why? You can't sing about that?

• 24:29Joe Rogan?

  His friend is, his cousin is actually in jail, it seems like. Previously spoken of a cousin who is currently serving a life sentence in jail for a murder he committed at 17 years old. He mentioned him on Jimmy Kimmel Live in 2018 and the 2020 documentary Kim Kardashian West, The Justice Project.

• 24:49Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. He added that his cousin is now serving a sentence for killing a pregnant woman. A few years after West told him they wouldn't look at dirty magazines together anymore, West believed that he was self-centered for taking the blame for his cousin's murder charge and for showing him those dirty magazines when he was six. What?

• 25:10Speaker 02

  This guy actually wrote the song and Kanye performed the writing of it.

• 25:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. Same with the other song you guys are talking about.

• 25:16Joe Rogan?

  American rapper David Blunt, who served as the main songwriter for Cuck, just like, just having it in your Wikipedia. What'd you do? Well, I was the main songwriter for Cuck. Oh, excellent. Amazing. How was that collaboration? While West was playing The Last of Us on his PlayStation 5, West originally declined Blunt's offer to turn it into a song, but later changed his mind. Though Blunt had become reluctant to write it, attempting to procrastinate by sending West different songs for the album, he eventually decided to record it as a demo in his living room due to West's persistence. He persisted. He's like, write it. Write it about me sucking my cousin's dick.

• 25:54Joe Rogan?

  Writing it over a beat he downloaded from YouTube due to his main producers being asleep. That's hilarious. This fucking guy's working like 24 hours a day. Blunt took around 20 minutes to finish the song. He later reflected on Cousins as being very freeing for West when he made it, believing that West chose him to write it due to his blunt, in quotes, no pun intended, approach to songwriting that lacks double entendres. According to producer Chuck E. Beats, he was unaware that West used Blunt's song 10 Perks, which he co-wrote and produced until YouTube commenter told him about the X post. So what was the X post? What did he say?

• 26:36Joe Rogan?

  So there was a, there was a post.

• 26:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, where he just came out and so he's sucked my cousin's dick.

• 26:44Speaker 00

  Writing that song helps him deal with it. They say that with like, any PTSD where it's like, if you can journal about whatever the things are.

• 26:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, here it is. It says, the song is called Cousins, about my cousin that's locked in jail for killing a pregnant lady a few years ago. I told him, after I told him we wouldn't look at dirty magazines together anymore. Perhaps in my self-centered mess, I felt it was my fault that I showed him those dirty magazines when he was six. And then we acted out what we saw. My dad had Playboy magazines, but the magazines I found on top of my mom's closet were different. My name is ye and I sucked my cousin's dick until I was 14.

• 27:24Speaker 02

  To be yay.

• 27:25Joe Rogan?

  Yay, sorry.

• 27:27Speaker 00

  Tweet sent.

• 27:29Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 27:30Speaker 00

  Awesome. Go for him.

• 27:32Joe Rogan?

  Jesus.

• 27:33Speaker 00

  Six to 14.

• 27:35Joe Rogan?

  That's a long time. A lot of dick sucking.

• 27:37Speaker 00

  A long time to be sucking cock, yeah.

• 27:40Joe Rogan?

  And then one day he's like, enough. And then he blames that on his cousin shooting a pregnant lady.

• 27:45Speaker 02

  That's Dave Blunt's.

• 27:48Joe Rogan?

  He's the guy who wrote it?

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:49Joe Rogan?

  Wow. Okay.

• 27:52Speaker 00

  He's big, huh?

• 27:53Joe Rogan?

  He's a big fella. I can see why he procrastinates.

• 27:57Joe Rogan?

  Hard to have energy when you're that big.

• 27:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:59Joe Rogan?

  Hard to, you know, be super motivated to write a, write a good song.

• 28:05Joe Rogan?

  That's a crazy story, man.

• 28:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:07Joe Rogan?

  But I mean, all brilliant people like that, like, that are that good are gonna be insane.

• 28:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. I guess so, yeah.

• 28:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. A bunch of different ways, but they're all insane in some way.

• 28:21Speaker 00

  Didn't he say he can like see like colors with sound? He said that he has that thing that when he hears sound, he like visualizes it.

• 28:30Joe Rogan?

  Did he say that? That makes sense.

• 28:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:33Joe Rogan?

  I mean, clearly as a gift.

• 28:35Speaker 00

  He's definitely one of the most talented.

• 28:37Joe Rogan?

  Ever.

• 28:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 28:38Speaker 00

  They're bangers.

• 28:39Joe Rogan?

  And when you talk to him, it's like, his words are like barely contained inside of his mouth. Synesthesia. He has a neurological condition where auditory inputs such as music or sound triggers involuntary visual experiences like seeing colors, shapes or patterns.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  Makes sense. So when he hears songs, it's like doing mushrooms or something?

• 29:00Joe Rogan?

  Like when you're talking to him, it's almost like these words are like pouring out of his mouth. Like it's like behind his brain, like, ah, like they're just coming out.

• 29:07Speaker 00

  No filter.

• 29:08Joe Rogan?

  I mean, I think that's how he writes too. I think it's just like, there's a creative storm inside of his brain that's just flying out of him all the time.

• 29:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, it goes to show for what he did and now for like his, what he was saying and everything and how much people are like trying to cancel him, I guess. And now he's back to selling out huge fucking stadiums.

• 29:29Joe Rogan?

  It's nuts. I think, I mean, at some point in time, they must've just given up on trying to cancel him. The crazy thing is like Adidas backed away from their sponsorship and it cost them billions of dollars. Billions. Cause he was basically saying the Jews control everything.

• 29:47Speaker 00

  And they didn't like that, so they fired him.

• 29:49Joe Rogan?

  So they, they killed his bank accounts. They basically controlled everything.

• 29:53Speaker 00

  Wait to prove him wrong, I guess.

• 29:55Joe Rogan?

  I know. It's so funny that they did that. They didn't just ignore him. But it's a, it's a weird time for anti-Jewish thinking and rhetoric.

• 30:05Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, it all just boils over from the Israel thing. And then, and then while we're here, we're kinda like, by the way, you're a little annoying also, by the way. Just so you know, while, while, while we're talking, while I'm breaking it to you, you guys are a little fucking irritating.

• 30:20Joe Rogan?

  They're very into being Jewish and if you're not Jewish.

• 30:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 30:25Speaker 00

  They love being a Jew.

• 30:26Joe Rogan?

  Must be fun.

• 30:28Speaker 00

  They stop me. A lot of time in New York, they'll ask me if I'm Jewish. A lot. Cause you know, there's like a special week where they like hand out fucking Jew bibles or whatever they have, you know?

• 30:38Joe Rogan?

  Jew bibles?

• 30:39Speaker 00

  I don't know. I honestly don't. Yeah, the Torah. And then they'll stop me. These guys with the curls and everything, they'll stop me and be like, are you Jewish? And I go, no. And they go, okay.

• 30:47Joe Rogan?

  They don't get upset at you.

• 30:48Speaker 00

  No, they're not upset. No. But they, they think I'm a Jew. I must have some sort of, something going on.

• 30:55Joe Rogan?

  What do you think that is?

• 30:56Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 30:57Joe Rogan?

  You could be. Well, that's the thing about being Jewish. It's not like being Somali, you know, where you can go, that guy looks Somali.

• 31:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:05Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean? Like Jewish could be red hair.

• 31:07Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 31:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 31:08Speaker 00

  I think that's where the sneaky, the sneaky Jew comes from. I do think that's where the, the, the theory of the sneaky Jew is because.

• 31:17Joe Rogan?

  You can't spot him?

• 31:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you can spot some of them. Like Ari Shafir, you're fucking, yeah.

• 31:23Speaker 00

  Everything about Ari is Jewish.

• 31:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You spot that shit a mile away with Ari.

• 31:26Speaker 00

  Ari's like too Jewish where he needs to like dilute the blood a little.

• 31:29Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. Maybe an operation.

• 31:32Speaker 00

  Where do you start?

• 31:34Joe Rogan?

  The nose, 100%. But then you're gonna have to widen the face.

• 31:38Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 31:39Joe Rogan?

  It's like, yeah, like, the thing about faces, that's like, one of those things that you'd notice if you see someone that got a nose job, like, something looks wrong.

• 31:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:47Joe Rogan?

  Like, why is your nose normal size and the rest of your face is strange?

• 31:51Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 31:52Joe Rogan?

  You know, because that's the golden ratio, like, there's like, there's a symmetry to the way your face is structured, that if you have the type of face that's supposed to have a big nose, and all of a sudden you get this little Michael Jackson button nose.

• 32:04Speaker 00

  Doesn't work.

• 32:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you look weird. Like, something about your mind is like, the ratios are off and you're like, something's wrong here.

• 32:11Speaker 00

  That would be my biggest fear, probably, to go under the knife, trying to be more handsome. And then you come out with like, a fucking, like, a fucked up lip or something.

• 32:21Joe Rogan?

  Right, you know, your face doesn't move, so every time, you might look okay when you're staring at the mirror, but then as soon as you start talking, your face looks like it's made out of rubber.

• 32:30Speaker 00

  What's gonna look, what are all these, like, young 20-year-olds who are getting Botox gonna look like when they're 40? Are they just gonna have a fucking mask on, like, just?

• 32:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's the fillers. The fillers are the real problem. Botox is not great, but it's, you're basically putting botulism in your skin, and it can also cause a bunch of other side effects. But I think the real problem is those fillers. Like, some people have to get their face removed and scrape the fillers out.

• 32:54Speaker 00

  What?

• 32:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, man.

• 32:56Speaker 00

  What do you mean, get their face removed?

• 32:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they literally have to, like, fucking, open your face up and remove the fillers, like, some ladies went a little too far.

• 33:05Speaker 00

  Terminator?

• 33:05Joe Rogan?

  I don't know the procedure, but I know that they have to get something in your skin underneath there and suck it all out.

• 33:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:15Joe Rogan?

  Depending on the fillers.

• 33:16Speaker 00

  Some of them look good, though.

• 33:17Joe Rogan?

  With the fillers?

• 33:18Speaker 00

  Well, just with the work.

• 33:19Joe Rogan?

  Beastun look?

• 33:21Speaker 00

  No, I'm talking like, what's the oldest Kardashian, the queen, the queen of the Kardashians?

• 33:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  Not the kids, the older lady.

• 33:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah. What is her name?

• 33:29Speaker 00

  Kris.

• 33:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 33:30Speaker 00

  Because I don't know who she's working with, but she must have a, she must have a wizard, she has a squad, yeah, she has a squad, Tommy has a little prayer for him.

• 33:39Joe Rogan?

  He casts a spell.

• 33:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:41Joe Rogan?

  He uses warlock magic to turn her young again.

• 33:44Speaker 00

  That's like a big project for these guys. They probably, that's not a simple fix. She's like 109 and she looks 18.

• 33:51Joe Rogan?

  Those are artists. By the way, that's a filter.

• 33:53Speaker 00

  That's fine.

• 33:54Joe Rogan?

  That's not what she really looks like. There's no way they did that to her neck. But like, when you see her in real life on her television show, she does look very good for her age.

• 34:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:03Joe Rogan?

  But she doesn't look like that.

• 34:04Speaker 00

  And then Caitlyn did the opposite. Caitlyn could not look worse.

• 34:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 34:09Speaker 00

  Caitlyn's like, giving up, like, sad, actually.

• 34:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 34:12Speaker 00

  Like, she'll walk in with a big handbag, fucking, and the hair, the hair's all naughty and it's like spooky.

• 34:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's weird.

• 34:19Speaker 00

  Spooky.

• 34:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think once you've given up on sex and then you've kind of, it's also, it's like, did Caitlyn Jenner have the, excuse me, bottom surgery? Has that been confirmed?

• 34:33Speaker 00

  I don't think so.

• 34:33Joe Rogan?

  I think she did.

• 34:35Speaker 00

  She walks like she has a cock.

• 34:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, she used to.

• 34:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, I guess you don't adjust.

• 34:40Joe Rogan?

  Probably keep the same strut.

• 34:42Speaker 00

  That must be hard to adjust to not having a cock.

• 34:44Speaker 02

  Long time ago.

• 34:45Speaker 00

  Like, you ever get a toot taken out?

• 34:46Joe Rogan?

  Long time ago, had the surgery?

• 34:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, according to her memoir.

• 34:50Speaker 00

  But, do you ever get like, a toot taken out or something and it's like, it's like weird to adjust to it for a while? Not having a penis must be fucking, might take a while.

• 34:58Joe Rogan?

  But now you have a tube, you have a hole that you have to keep dilated with a rubber dick.

• 35:03Speaker 00

  Instructions on how to clean it properly and shit? Do you ever clean a pocket pussy? It's the most disgusting thing I've ever done in my life.

• 35:09Joe Rogan?

  We used to have a sponsorship with the Fleshlight.

• 35:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, and, but that's the problem, is it's all fun and games until you gotta wash it.

• 35:16Speaker 00

  And then you're just like, just rub our sleeve under the sink and...

• 35:20Joe Rogan?

  It's fucking dead squid.

• 35:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, I got one at home, too, but it was a gift on a podcast. Some chick, some porn star was like, I guess she'd like...

• 35:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, had it molded from her own?

• 35:32Speaker 00

  Dip their pussy in clay or whatever the fuck, yeah, and then she was having a, yeah.

• 35:37Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 35:37Speaker 00

  Mine was scented.

• 35:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I watched an episode of the Kardashians where they were all sitting around the living room and Caitlyn came over, and it was just like, what, what are, you know?

• 35:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:49Joe Rogan?

  It's one thing to be an old person.

• 35:51Speaker 00

  I saw that same episode, I think.

• 35:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, being an old person is okay, like, you know, you get old, we're all gonna get old, we're all gonna look shit when we get old. But that's different.

• 35:58Speaker 00

  Caitlyn's a real one.

• 35:59Joe Rogan?

  You have like, crazy long hair and fake boobs and you look insane. You look like an old man with fake boobs.

• 36:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, I just think if I was to become a lady, I think I'd be a real fucking femme bitch.

• 36:09Joe Rogan?

  You think so?

• 36:10Speaker 00

  I think I'd be a bad bitch, or at least I'd be doing my best to be. I don't think I would.

• 36:13Joe Rogan?

  What do you think you would do?

• 36:14Speaker 00

  I think I would fucking go out with the girls shopping.

• 36:17Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 36:18Speaker 00

  Really get them to compliment me, make me feel good. Yeah, I think I'd have a nice haircut, I'd shave, probably, that could be a good start.

• 36:26Joe Rogan?

  Right, maybe just get laser shit all over your face.

• 36:29Speaker 00

  I'd get laser shit everywhere, everything.

• 36:30Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't grow back.

• 36:31Speaker 00

  Laser, yeah.

• 36:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you don't want to worry about stubble, like...

• 36:35Speaker 00

  No.

• 36:36Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 36:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:37Joe Rogan?

  Like eating pussy, pretending to be a lesbian.

• 36:44Joe Rogan?

  That's the thing about the weird ones are the ones that they do it and then they're still straight.

• 36:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:50Joe Rogan?

  That's called autogynephilia.

• 36:52Speaker 00

  Autogynephilia.

• 36:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they get aroused by the idea of pretending to be a woman, and they get sexually aroused, and they're attracted to women.

• 37:00Speaker 00

  Right, but do they only do that in the bedroom, or is it just like, they have to live it like that all the time?

• 37:05Joe Rogan?

  Not anymore, now that these, the new openness of our society allows them to go out in public and get excited and go into the women's room with a hard cock.

• 37:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 37:16Speaker 00

  Don't play them.

• 37:17Joe Rogan?

  This is the thing about, like, being open and progressive and just being like, you know, accepting of people, that you're accepting also of sexual deviance. Like, there are people that aren't just transgender, they're fucking perverts and sex offenders, the old school ones. Like, when I was a kid, there's old school sex offenders, it was normal. And now they're just identified as a woman and they get a Willy Wonka golden ticket. You could just...

• 37:45Speaker 00

  What do you mean, they get scented like a female prison or whatever?

• 37:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, they definitely can do that in some places. California, at last count, when I looked, had 47 biological males that were housed in women's prisons.

• 37:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:58Joe Rogan?

  Some of them have gotten women pregnant, they keep their dick, there's like, there's no requirement in terms of, as long as you identify, New Jersey's the same way, as long as you identify, it's like, there's a self-identification thing. You identify as a woman, you're allowed to go into a woman's prison.

• 38:13Speaker 00

  Do they make you do some, do they make you like, put on like, high heels or anything and kind of really?

• 38:18Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they get high heels in prison.

• 38:20Speaker 00

  There's gotta be a test.

• 38:21Joe Rogan?

  I don't think there is.

• 38:22Speaker 00

  There's gotta be some sort of a feminine test.

• 38:24Joe Rogan?

  All you have to do is get offended if they suggest that you're not a woman.

• 38:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's all you gotta do?

• 38:29Joe Rogan?

  They're like, "I'm a fucking woman!"

• 38:31Speaker 00

  But they're still okay.

• 38:32Joe Rogan?

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• 40:21Speaker 00

  Female tests where you go like, oh, it's, you know, it's my dad's birthday, I'm not gonna buy him a card. And she'll be like, "You have to buy him a card." You know, they can already test them. You know, should I call my father today? And she's, you know, and he's like, "Nah." Very manly response right there.

• 40:37Speaker 00

  Very manly response.

• 40:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's uh, I mean, look, I wouldn't want to be the type of person who feels like you're trapped in the wrong body. It's gotta be horrible. I'm, I'm, it's not like I don't have sympathy for them. But my position has always been like, hey, but whatever happened to perverts? Do you know, you've just given perverts a license to be around women by just saying that they're a woman.

• 40:59Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 41:00Joe Rogan?

  You, you know, there's no way of this, there's no distinction. There's no way. There's no way to differentiate between someone who has gender dysphoria and someone who's just a pervert who's operating out of a loophole.

• 41:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, but you could probably argue that's the same everywhere in life, right? In terms of like.

• 41:19Joe Rogan?

  That's a big one, though.

• 41:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:20Joe Rogan?

  That's a big one.

• 41:21Speaker 00

  But people are scamming any everywhere. There's clown artists everywhere, you know? I, I, I could be from fucking, I could be from America and pretending to be Irish because I thought this would be like a way to fucking swindle people.

• 41:32Joe Rogan?

  If you were, you would really be like wasting your talent at voices.

• 41:38Speaker 00

  Well, my, my accent's barely Irish anymore. My accent, everyone, I know for a fact everyone in Ireland is gonna be watching this going, fucking stupid American accent. What's he doing?

• 41:46Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 41:46Speaker 00

  Cause it's soft as shit and it's real soft because all my friends are Irish, my wife's Irish, sorry, all my friends are American, my wife's American. I just sort of talk around them and I podcast so much that you hear the.

• 41:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you've got the, the dirt, dirt, there's a dirt. Stupid shit. There's a way that Irish people talk that differentiates them from other people with.

• 42:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, and then when I got home, I, I, I suck it in. Everyone I'm listening to, I get it back. It's thick as shit. And then I come back here and no one understands me for a week and then it just sort of disappears. It floats away.

• 42:15Joe Rogan?

  See, to me, you sound very Irish.

• 42:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 42:18Speaker 00

  But to them, I sound like a prick.

• 42:20Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 42:21Speaker 00

  Really, yeah, yeah.

• 42:21Joe Rogan?

  Like you've softened up?

• 42:22Speaker 00

  Softened up a lot. There's all clips of me on YouTube and stuff where my accent's thick as shit, Conor McGregor style, fucking, what's the story? How's everybody doing?

• 42:30Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 42:31Speaker 00

  And then now I'm like going to put the trash, put the trash out or whatever.

• 42:35Joe Rogan?

  But even when you're saying put the trash.

• 42:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, I guess there's little things in there.

• 42:40Joe Rogan?

  Little, right there.

• 42:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. But to them, this is very, they'll notice this. They'll notice little things and they'll DM me and call me a fraud and a faggot and. And I'm sorry, I just, there's not enough Irish people in my life anymore.

• 42:53Joe Rogan?

  How often do you go back?

• 42:54Speaker 00

  Uh, I usually go back twice a year. Um, this, this year I didn't go back, but next year I've got like four trips booked already. Got a bunch of shows. If anyone wants to come out and see me, please come see me. Yeah, I'm doing shows in Dublin and Limerick and Cork.

• 43:09Joe Rogan?

  That's fucking cool.

• 43:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm excited to go back. Yeah. I've never been able to, like, I have a bigger audience here because like most of my career has been here. And everyone like that's been through Legion of Skanks and Ari and all these type of fans have come to me. So I don't really have the Irish accent. So, or sorry, I don't really have the Irish audience. So I go back.

• 43:26Joe Rogan?

  That's ridiculous.

• 43:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:28Joe Rogan?

  Because they get online too. They must be seeing you.

• 43:30Speaker 00

  I have a few, I have a few, but if I was in Ireland doing jokes about fucking Ireland, that I would be, I think I'd be much bigger.

• 43:38Joe Rogan?

  When you go back, do you have a bunch of Irish material about Ireland?

• 43:42Speaker 00

  Not really, no.

• 43:43Joe Rogan?

  No?

• 43:43Speaker 00

  No. Well, it changes. The place changes so much. I don't know. I have stuff about my dad I talk about a lot. I'll talk about my dad a lot. Like my dad, he's very Irish dad, you know what I mean? And uh, just like, he's just like an interesting guy. He used to be really angry my whole life and then one day I think he stopped working and now he's the nicest guy. You know, I think there's something about your, someday, I think your dad is a mean prick until one day when you're like a grown up and then they just go, ah, you're all right. Like they ease, ease off, you know?

• 44:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, one thing that happens, you get out of their house so they don't have to take care of you anymore. That changes a lot.

• 44:18Speaker 00

  It's that riding again. They get the fuck out of there.

• 44:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you get out of their house and you're not their responsibility anymore and then they can relax and are around you. And then if you're doing all right with your life, you've developed a career or what have you.

• 44:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:30Joe Rogan?

  Then they're all right when they're around you.

• 44:31Speaker 00

  But my, my dad, my friends used to call my, my dad's name is Aiden. My friends used to have a nickname for him called Rage and Aiden. Cause he was such a notorious shithead. And one time we were, we were eighteen or seventeen, we're going to a concert and two of my friends were in the house. We're just drinking, pre-drinking. And he came home from work or whatever and he's like, how's it going? And he's like raging and he's like mad. And then he's just, at one point someone made a joke and he goes, get the fuck out of my house. Ollies, get the fuck out of my house. And he grabbed the beers and threw them out into the street. Goes, get the fuck out of here. And my friend Bill, he walked off down the road and then my dad comes out and goes, Bill, come here, get back here, get back here. And we walked all the way up. He goes, get the fuck out of my face.

• 45:10Speaker 00

  He just saw a red and that.

• 45:11Joe Rogan?

  Just hate his job?

• 45:12Speaker 00

  I don't know. Yeah, he used to work as a plumber. So I think he just hated his job. I think he was just stressed about financial shit and everything. And now he's like retired and he gardens and he's just sweet little old pathetic man. It's not, he's like, he's like, my, my, my nieces have the best version of him ever.

• 45:28Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 45:28Speaker 00

  He's just in the garden all day, just planting and he'll send me photos of flowers. That's like, I'm like, who is this guy? What happened? Yeah.

• 45:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, how many people are ruined by a job they hate that they have to show up every day? Just be living in shit and stress all day long and then come home and realize that all that work that you did and you still can barely pay your, pay your bills.

• 45:46Speaker 00

  Exactly, yeah.

• 45:47Joe Rogan?

  That's the problem.

• 45:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, what's that Thoreau quote? Most men live lives of quiet desperation.

• 45:54Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 45:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's heavy shit and it's true. Most men are out there working right now. Not that women aren't, but you know, that's the, it's the male quote because.

• 46:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:05Joe Rogan?

  It's, there, there's something about working these brutal, horrible jobs where you're still barely making enough money for food. That's crazy. And you wasted your life and then all of a sudden you're sixty, you know, and then you're like, well, what am I doing?

• 46:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's tough in America sometimes too. It's like you wanna go to, you go to Waffle House and it's nice because Waffle House is great, but the people working there are like the saddest humans alive. Like it's like, no one wants to be at Waffle House. They're like just all there.

• 46:32Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, it's, you're gonna see fights five nights a week.

• 46:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, they're exhausted.

• 46:38Joe Rogan?

  The odds of going to a Waffle House and seeing a brawl are very high.

• 46:42Speaker 00

  What is it about? It's like the fucking bat signal for fucking aggressive.

• 46:48Joe Rogan?

  I know, it's more so than a diner. Like it's very rare to see a brawl at a diner, like a twenty-four hour diner.

• 46:53Speaker 00

  Denny's, no one's ever fought in Denny's in their life.

• 46:55Joe Rogan?

  Most of the time.

• 46:56Speaker 00

  Waffle House is fucking Royal Lumber. Waffle House is just viral video after viral video. Are they organizing it maybe?

• 47:03Joe Rogan?

  I don't think so.

• 47:04Speaker 00

  Is that like a good thing?

• 47:06Joe Rogan?

  I think it's where Waffle Houses are. It's probably like they're in an area that's like more fucked up or something.

• 47:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:14Joe Rogan?

  But I mean, when you're drunk and it's like two o'clock in the morning and you can get waffles, like fuck, yeah, with butter and syrup.

• 47:22Speaker 00

  And, and you could get everything, eggs, bacon.

• 47:24Joe Rogan?

  Chicken fried steak.

• 47:25Speaker 00

  Anything you want.

• 47:26Joe Rogan?

  Let's go.

• 47:26Speaker 00

  And you can sit in a little booth with a couple of friends.

• 47:29Joe Rogan?

  Have some coffee, talk some shit.

• 47:31Speaker 00

  And then next thing you know, some, some fat bitch skips you in the line or something and then fucking Waffle House brawl. But you ever see that one with the, where the, the lady who worked there, skinny little white chick with tattoos fucked them all up. She was this tiny skinny girl and all these big fucking fat ladies are screaming at her going, I'm gonna fuck you up. But she came out, she goes, you want a fucking girl? Cause the, the people that work there aren't like chumps either.

• 47:54Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 47:54Speaker 00

  They have to go through some sort of probably.

• 47:56Joe Rogan?

  It's called jail.

• 48:00Speaker 00

  They have to do a minimum of jail. They have to have a jail experience to work at Waffle House, yeah.

• 48:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. How many saw some batteries you have? Okay, three.

• 48:06Speaker 00

  You could be a manager.

• 48:10Speaker 00

  You can go train all the other staff how to defend themselves at two o'clock in the morning from a fork to the neck. Yeah.

• 48:16Joe Rogan?

  Oy, oy, oy, oy. Yeah, and it doesn't close. That's the other thing. Like if you're a person looking for something to eat or do and it's four o'clock in the morning, you don't have a lot of options. And those people, if you're up that late, most likely you've made some poor choices.

• 48:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, maybe, well, I don't know.

• 48:33Joe Rogan?

  Or good ones.

• 48:33Speaker 00

  Great ones. But, you know, I grew up in Ireland, fistfights all the time. So when we, the nightclubs used to end at four o'clock in the morning in Dublin city center. And everyone stayed out till four. It was like, it, it, it wasn't even an option to go home before the bar closed, if that makes sense. Though I've never in my life heard of someone going, ah, it's two o'clock, I better go. And you go, no, just two more hours of drinking. We're here. That's, that's just the way it worked. I don't know what, we just love it so much.

• 49:03Joe Rogan?

  What is, why is that?

• 49:05Speaker 00

  I, I think, well, apparently the Vikings used to have to drink a lot of alcohol because that would kill the bacteria in the water. So there's, I think there's probably some sort of a thing that was just passed down through generations of. Uh, I also think it's probably a whole lot of repressed fucking trauma over the years that we can only let out when we get blackout drunk and puke. Uh, that's our therapy, you know?

• 49:29Joe Rogan?

  There are a lot of stories in ancient days of people who drank nothing but beer.

• 49:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:34Joe Rogan?

  They just drank beer. That was what they're, so everyone was drunk all the time.

• 49:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:39Joe Rogan?

  Which is really crazy if you think about it.

• 49:41Speaker 00

  You get to a point where you're kind of, you're not drunk drunk, but you're kind of buzzed.

• 49:46Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 49:46Speaker 00

  All day, every day, you're just a little bit horny. Just a little bit.

• 49:51Joe Rogan?

  And also like that, just the liver poisoning, like.

• 49:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you're probably dying in your sixties back then anyway.

• 49:58Joe Rogan?

  Probably killed by a sword.

• 49:59Speaker 00

  Fucking the honorable way to go.

• 50:01Joe Rogan?

  Before you're ever getting liver disease.

• 50:04Speaker 00

  But they did that at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin too. All these guys would, the old Coopers would make the barrels and they'd make millions of these per year. And they had a free supply of Guinness to drink all day. So these guys would go to work and they would drink twelve pints of Guinness all day while they're fucking working. And then after work, they'd go down to the Guinness bar, the pub and spend, spend the money they just earned.

• 50:26Joe Rogan?

  And keep rolling.

• 50:27Speaker 00

  And yeah, and then actually start drinking. The one, the one that during the day was uh.

• 50:31Joe Rogan?

  Moderation.

• 50:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and you got a job there when you were twelve and you were drinking six pints a day from twelve.

• 50:37Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 50:38Speaker 00

  Everyone was drinking young. Everyone was drinking young. When my dad was growing up, he, he would go to pubs when he was twelve, like so.

• 50:43Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 50:45Speaker 00

  He's like seventy now, so that was back in the day.

• 50:47Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 50:48Speaker 00

  But like, it's just a drinking culture and it's eighteen now, which means the law's eighteen, but we let you at fifteen if you're a chick, sixteen if you're a fella.

• 50:59Joe Rogan?

  That's when people start drinking.

• 51:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:01Joe Rogan?

  In pubs.

• 51:02Speaker 00

  Uh, in nightclubs for sure because you'd use your, I used my older brother's ID when I was, he was four years older than me, so he was eighteen. So he would have been twenty and I was sixteen using his ID. But all the girls I grew up with would go in even younger because the bouncers like see a Q fifteen year old walk up, they kind of let them go in. Then I walk in like fucking covered in pimples like a fucking moron. They go, no, you're not allowed in. I go, well, that was my girlfriend. They go, not tonight.

• 51:26Joe Rogan?

  There's a, some sort of a series on, uh, I think it's on Netflix about the Guinness family. Have you seen it?

• 51:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a, there's like a.

• 51:34Joe Rogan?

  Heard it's crazy.

• 51:34Speaker 00

  It's a drama.

• 51:35Joe Rogan?

  It's like a Peaky Blinders type deal.

• 51:36Speaker 00

  It's kind of weird. Yeah, it's weird. The accents are weird and everything. So it's like, it's tough to watch and they sound like I fucking sound, but uh.

• 51:43Joe Rogan?

  It sounds shitty? Like it doesn't sound like a good Irish accent?

• 51:46Speaker 00

  Uh, not, not all of them. Some of them are from Ireland, but yeah.

• 51:49Joe Rogan?

  So is it uh, American actors faking it?

• 51:52Speaker 00

  It's a, it's, it's, by the way, it's loosely, loosely based on the, this certain generation of the Guinness family.

• 51:58Joe Rogan?

  Can we listen to some of this?

• 52:03Joe Rogan?

  And of course, our thoughts and prayers are most of all

• 52:09Joe Rogan?

  with Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness's four children.

• 52:16Joe Rogan?

  From the creators of Peaky Blinders.

• 52:20Joe Rogan?

  A gift from Mr. Guinness.

• 52:23Joe Rogan?

  From a representative of the Dublin poor.

• 52:28Joe Rogan?

  Trouble is brewing.

• 52:30Speaker 03

  Behind our weak and divided. Now is the time to use that weakness.

• 52:39Speaker 03

  You think there'll be trouble today? The man's name is Guinness.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  Course that'll be fucking trouble.

• 52:49Joe Rogan?

  So that accent's bullshit. He's faking it.

• 52:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, but that little guy they had as a leprechaun for some reason, they literally introduced him. He goes, I fucking don't have, I'll sell your Guinness in New York, sure I will, you know?

• 53:04Speaker 00

  You know, so even in Ireland, it's like, this is fucking shit.

• 53:06Joe Rogan?

  It's kind of amazing with people being that drunk all the time that anything ever got done.

• 53:12Speaker 00

  Poetry, that's, you know, the writing, we did all that. We never, we never did, we never figured out like, you know,

• 53:21Speaker 00

  you know, finance or any of that important shit, but we, we, we had a good time, we have a good time.

• 53:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, a lot of poetry, a lot of singing.

• 53:28Speaker 00

  Lot of singing, dancing, plays, writing, talking, we talk nonstop about Everton. Everton, and a conversation in Ireland is one of the most fun things because you'll be laughing one second and then crying the next. It's sort of just a roller coaster of, they love getting into the nitty gritty of like horrible things for some reason. Irish people, we feed on misery, you know?

• 53:50Joe Rogan?

  Taboos thing probably, it's a depressant.

• 53:52Speaker 00

  I, yeah, I just, I don't know what it is. I think it's just we have to fill the dead air. So it's like, anytime I talk to my, and I didn't really notice this until I started bringing my wife to Ireland and she's like, very heavy subjects and I was like, I'd never even noticed, but like we'd be having dinner and then suddenly my mom would just go, oh, you know, your cousin, she was dating a guy called Jerry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He died. He's fucking got hit by a car last night, you know? And, or they'll, they'll bring up someone who lost a baby or whatever, just all the time. It's always like just misery and you're, I don't even know this guy. What are you telling me? I don't know that my cousin, what the fuck are you talking about? And they love it though. They love a little bit of fucking misery.

• 54:30Joe Rogan?

  What do you think that is?

• 54:32Speaker 00

  I don't know. I think it comes, I don't know, probably just passed down from like the famine or something where we, where we, where we talked about it. You know, because the famine's a weird one that kind of still.

• 54:45Joe Rogan?

  What was the cause of the famine?

• 54:48Speaker 00

  The British.

• 54:49Joe Rogan?

  The British did it. What did they do?

• 54:51Speaker 00

  They took all our food. They left, they, so the, when Britain was in control of Ireland in the 1800s, but that was the date. Well, there was like two, two major famines, right? I'm probably getting the dates wrong, but they gave the Catholics the shittier land. They took off, they, they pushed the Catholics off the good land that could grow carrots and cabbage and whatever. They pushed them to the shitty land and the only thing that could grow on the shitty land was the potatoes. And then when the potato blight happened, it wiped out the potatoes, it was the entire food source. But we were still producing loads of food, but that was all getting shipped over to the crown.

• 55:29Speaker 00

  So the, the crown, so it was like a forced, forced famine or forced starvation even.

• 55:37Joe Rogan?

  How many people died?

• 55:38Speaker 00

  I don't know. I don't know the number, but it, it rocked the, and the amount of people that left too.

• 55:45Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit, between 1845 and 1852, about one million people died from starvation and disease. And roughly two million emigrated between 1845 and 1855. Potato blight triggered the crisis, but poverty depended on one crop and the British government policies made its consequences far worse. A fucking million people in less than 10 years.

• 56:08Speaker 00

  A lot of people in Ireland would think that's a little bit too favorable to how much the British government actually played a role in that shit. But I don't know where my family was back then, you know, I don't know. So I don't know how many ancestors I would have had back then. Must be like a hundred or something like people that I'm, came from. I don't know who was affected by it, who was doing well.

• 56:27Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 56:28Speaker 00

  I don't know, like.

• 56:29Joe Rogan?

  Probably no one was doing real well. It sounds like.

• 56:31Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 56:31Joe Rogan?

  It sounds like if there's a starvation going on, it's probably rough times.

• 56:34Speaker 00

  If you're poor, if you're, if you're living in a nice house and you're fucking doing something, but.

• 56:39Joe Rogan?

  One of the most painful facts is that the food continued to leave Ireland while people starved. The story is not simply that Ireland exported food and imported none. Grain imports also rose sharply. The crucial distinction between the food being available in the economy and starving people having the money or assistance needing to obtain it. Crop failure alone does not explain the scale of the deaths. So perplexity is giving us the nuanced details.

• 57:05Speaker 02

  Inactions of Lord John Russell's government worsening the disaster.

• 57:11Speaker 00

  But they say there's a, there's a gene, it affected the gene, there's a, there's a, there's a gene where certain Irish people can use less calories. Their, their body will store the calories because they survived through those times of no.

• 57:26Joe Rogan?

  Right. Yeah, I've heard of that before. It's, it's all, there's a longevity gene that's associated with it.

• 57:32Speaker 00

  Really?

• 57:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like people that are the descendants of starving people apparently live longer and they're more robust.

• 57:39Speaker 00

  Really? But what, if, if you have an infant, it's like, it's like, you know, today's world, we're so focused on making sure all our infants and everyone has got, got the good shit. You know, there was entire generations of kids who were born, were not getting nutrients into their brain. So would that have like a long-term effect on, because eventually they grew up.

• 57:56Joe Rogan?

  IQs and.

• 57:57Speaker 00

  Would they be like, you know, stupid for lack of a better word?

• 58:00Joe Rogan?

  It's a good question.

• 58:01Speaker 00

  They passed that on, like, would that have affected the, the national average IQ of Ireland?

• 58:05Joe Rogan?

  It's a good question.

• 58:06Speaker 00

  Is that why we like to drink and dance so much? Because we're all, we starved ourselves a little dumb?

• 58:10Joe Rogan?

  Well, it sounds like it's embedded in the culture and that could be because of that. I wonder what life was like before the famine. This episode is brought to you by perplexity. You've heard me say it all the time. Put it in perplexity. It's what I use for research. You ask it a question, it gives you a straight answer and it shows you where it got the information. So you can check the sources yourself, but sometimes you don't just need an answer, you need something done. So perplexity built a new product called perplexity computer. You give it a real job and it researches, works across your files and apps and comes back with a finished thing. A report, a spreadsheet, it'll even build you an app.

• 58:53Joe Rogan?

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• 59:06Speaker 00

  I don't think it was great either.

• 59:07Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't seem like it was.

• 59:09Speaker 00

  It was great before the English showed up and then they kind of pushed us off Ireland and Everton, but. That's why the Irish love Palestine so much because they just built in our system, built in our culture of supporting the underdog, I guess.

• 59:21Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 59:22Speaker 00

  You know, and no matter what the, going on, I think we just will naturally side towards the people who are getting genocided rather than the other people.

• 59:31Joe Rogan?

  Well, I mean, that's kind of across the whole world now.

• 59:36Speaker 00

  Now it is now, yeah.

• 59:37Joe Rogan?

  That's the weird thing about Jewish people in America. That's their, there's a lot of people that I know, I love them to death, but they have a blind spot. And that blind spot is their Jewish identity in Israel.

• 59:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:49Joe Rogan?

  And they refuse to say it's a genocide. They refuse to condemn it and they, they come up with reasons why they had to bomb those buildings.

• 59:57Speaker 00

  Of course.

• 59:57Joe Rogan?

  Hamas did this and Hamas did that and October 7th, this and.

• 1:00:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm kind of over it now though. I kind of wish Israel would just kind of hurry up, wipe them off so we can move on. Because I don't think it's, I think it's just, it's going on a little long now, Joe, and I don't think they're going to change anything. So wipe them out, wipe out West Bank and then, like, why is Macklemore back in my timeline? Because of Israel?

• 1:00:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:19Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:00:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, because he made that stance and said, free Palestine.

• 1:00:22Speaker 00

  But there wouldn't have been a stance to make if Israel just hurry up and wipe them out because they're not going to stop. They're not going to stop. It's going to just keep going. Don't you think? It's got like, do you see a, do you see a solution?

• 1:00:32Joe Rogan?

  Down lad, are you trying to be the 2026 Tommy Tiernan?

• 1:00:36Speaker 00

  That wasn't bad actually. Oh, fuck karma. Um, sure.

• 1:00:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the weird thing is they just had an election, right? And so Netanyahu might be out and apparently this new guy is more hardcore than Netanyahu.

• 1:00:51Speaker 00

  Really? Oh, I thought it was going to swing the other way.

• 1:00:53Joe Rogan?

  Listen, I'm very peripherally paying attention to this. It's like, what's going on over there? Oh God, I read an article like one paragraph in, I shut the laptop, I'm like, I can't do this.

• 1:01:04Speaker 00

  There's only so much you can take in.

• 1:01:05Joe Rogan?

  I don't want to take anymore anymore. I, I feel completely overwhelmed and the days that I feel great are the days that I don't absorb anything.

• 1:01:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, 100%.

• 1:01:13Joe Rogan?

  I stay offline, I stay out of the social media and whatever people are screaming about. Live updates, a close race sets the stage for weeks of negotiations over the next government. Neither Prime Minister, Minister Benjamin Netanyahu nor his main challenger, how do you say that name? Gadi Isinkot were projected to gain a parliamentary majority. Okay. So they're going to duke it out and maybe someone dies in a bomb.

• 1:01:42Joe Rogan?

  Weeks of negotiation and maybe a drone attack. Fuck.

• 1:01:46Speaker 00

  I saw that.

• 1:01:47Joe Rogan?

  He's rough though, right? Isn't he like, uh, he's pretty hardcore?

• 1:01:52Speaker 00

  I saw it.

• 1:01:53Joe Rogan?

  Find out.

• 1:01:53Speaker 00

  They said it was a sixteen percent turnout and it was a record number of votes or something.

• 1:01:56Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:01:57Speaker 00

  That's because everyone lives in Brooklyn. Well, most Israeli people or something live in America. I think they can. Is that what?

• 1:02:01Joe Rogan?

  Most of them?

• 1:02:02Speaker 00

  Well, obviously they, I don't know. But I think a lot of them will live in America. A lot of Israelis. Is that why it's only sixteen percent? Cause that's, that's particularly low.

• 1:02:10Joe Rogan?

  That seems crazy.

• 1:02:12Speaker 00

  This is right about just a tweet that I saw that I'm not gonna take as fact, but.

• 1:02:14Joe Rogan?

  What's a good election in America? What's, what's our turnout? I don't think it's.

• 1:02:18Speaker 00

  Fifty.

• 1:02:19Joe Rogan?

  Fifty's good?

• 1:02:19Speaker 00

  I think, I, I believe fifty percent of people in America vote. And then it's half and half, pretty much neck and neck, even though, you know, this ways. And then of that half, like.

• 1:02:31Joe Rogan?

  So here it says, less hardcore in domestic politics and political style, but not clearly less hardline on military force or Palestinian statehood. Eisenkot is better understood as a security hawk, offering an alternative to Netanyahu's leadership and far-right allies, not a dovish dovish. Alternative to Israel's security policy.

• 1:02:53Joe Rogan?

  On military force, very hawkish. Former Israeli military chief Eisenkot broadly supported operations in Gaza, Lebanon and Iran. Associated with, uh, how do you say that word? Dahiya? Dahiya doctrine. Uh, using overwhelming force, including against civilian infrastructure to deter enemy attacks. His quieter manner should not be mistaken for reluctance to use devastating force. Oh, fun. What a fun place.

• 1:03:22Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 1:03:23Joe Rogan?

  Fun. I, I know people that go back over there to visit, like Jewish folks. I'm like, wow, this seems like a risky place to visit. Seems like anything could pop off over there.

• 1:03:33Speaker 00

  Have you ever been to a war zone?

• 1:03:35Joe Rogan?

  No. Have you?

• 1:03:37Speaker 00

  No, but I, I feel like.

• 1:03:39Joe Rogan?

  You want to?

• 1:03:40Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:03:43Speaker 00

  I don't, but I feel like it could be fucking, it could wake, it would wake me up a little.

• 1:03:49Joe Rogan?

  I had, uh, Rick Springfield on, you know, Jesse's girl? You know that girl? Wish that I had Jesse's girl. So when he was eighteen, he went to Vietnam, uh, to perform for the troops. He was in a band and, uh, he was in a fucking war zone. Like they got shot at, like, he lobbed mortars and apparently killed one of the Viet Cong.

• 1:04:12Speaker 00

  They had, they threw him a fucking grenade to let, so.

• 1:04:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They, they, they were lobbing mortars and one of the guys told him, hey, you got one. And so this is like, to this day, it fucks with him. Cause he's in his seventies now and he's like, I fucking killed a guy when I was eighteen.

• 1:04:27Speaker 00

  I didn't sign up for that really.

• 1:04:28Joe Rogan?

  I was, well, he didn't sign up for anything. He was over there to perform music.

• 1:04:32Speaker 00

  And they just got ambushed or something like that? And then they, they said, you gotta fight your way out?

• 1:04:36Joe Rogan?

  No, they just allowed him to do it. Hey, you wanna, you wanna drop a bomb?

• 1:04:39Speaker 00

  Oh, it was like, this is, this is an easy kill. Would you like to take the kill?

• 1:04:42Joe Rogan?

  I, uh, something along those lines. Would you like to participate? You know, we have some bombs.

• 1:04:46Speaker 00

  Well, I'm about to kill this guy, but it's, it's pretty easy. He's already wounded. You can have him if you want.

• 1:04:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's trying to kill you, so what are you gonna do?

• 1:04:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You wanna lob a bomb? And I guess he did.

• 1:04:56Speaker 00

  I think Vietnam is all times, one of the scariest ideas to me ever. Being in the jungle, like, do you ever just walk through the woods of the forest anywhere and it's a little spooky?

• 1:05:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:05:06Speaker 00

  But being in a jungle, a lot, without the Vietnamese trying to kill you, just walking through that jungle alone, between the snakes and everything, the tigers.

• 1:05:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:05:16Speaker 00

  You know?

• 1:05:16Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, you don't know that area and they've been living there their whole lives.

• 1:05:21Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 1:05:22Joe Rogan?

  And they dig tunnels.

• 1:05:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:24Joe Rogan?

  And some guys would have to climb into the tunnels to kill the Vietnamese.

• 1:05:27Speaker 00

  Fuck that. Fuck that.

• 1:05:30Joe Rogan?

  Imagine the nightmares.

• 1:05:31Speaker 00

  I'm gonna overeat, so I can't fit in the fucking things or something. I'm finding some reason.

• 1:05:37Joe Rogan?

  Right, cause some of those tunnels are pretty small.

• 1:05:39Speaker 00

  Tiny little things, yeah.

• 1:05:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, cause the Vietnam people were very small people.

• 1:05:43Speaker 00

  But even if I, like, when I go camping and stuff like that, I'll be in the middle of the night, you just hear it, like, you'll hear a twig snap from something. And I'm scared it's a fucking whatever, mountain lion or something.

• 1:05:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:54Speaker 00

  Knowing it was a human with a fucking, carrying a knife in his mouth and fucking sneaking in to slit my throat, that can't, that's nothing scary than that. And then these guys were just sent back and we're supposed to just fucking listen to the mamas and the papas or whatever.

• 1:06:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:08Speaker 00

  Everyone else is dancing, smoking weed, going, hey, welcome back. And these guys are like, yeah, I'm fried, bro.

• 1:06:13Joe Rogan?

  And they're doing heroin and they're fucking hanging out and everyone knows the war is bullshit.

• 1:06:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:19Joe Rogan?

  And you're probably gonna die. There's no reason to be over there, no, and none of it makes any sense. And now we know that the entire premise for entering into the war was fabricated.

• 1:06:28Speaker 00

  Really?

• 1:06:28Joe Rogan?

  The Gulf of Tonkin incident.

• 1:06:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't, I'm not familiar.

• 1:06:31Joe Rogan?

  The Gulf of Tonkin incident is a false flag that occurred, um, during the, before the war got popped off. There was already some operations over there and they, uh, claimed that the, uh, the Viet Cong had attacked and blown up an American warship.

• 1:06:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:49Joe Rogan?

  Gulf of Tonkin. It never happened. It's all fake. And, uh, because, and not only that, one of the guys that was involved in that, perpetrating that was Jim Morrison from The Doors. It was his dad.

• 1:07:03Speaker 00

  Really?

• 1:07:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, his dad. There's a lot of like crazy shit involved in like the musical movement of the nineteen sixties. There's a great book called, uh, it's not, I wouldn't say a great book. It's a weird book. Was it Strange Times in the Canyon? Is that what it's called?

• 1:07:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, something like that.

• 1:07:20Joe Rogan?

  Something like that. But it's all about how many of these people from the counterculture movement in the sixties had connections to military intelligence.

• 1:07:31Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 1:07:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's very weird.

• 1:07:33Speaker 00

  Weird scenes.

• 1:07:34Joe Rogan?

  Weird scenes.

• 1:07:35Speaker 00

  Seeds inside the canyon. So like it was almost orchestrated for a particular reason?

• 1:07:38Joe Rogan?

  That's the conspiracy theory angle, right? The conspiracy theory angle is this is all orchestrated by the government and that the CIA was manipulating people's minds, trying to get society to unravel.

• 1:07:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:51Joe Rogan?

  And that they, but I, I, I only buy so much of it because I'm like, how do you make a guy as talented as Jim Morrison? How do you make The Doors? If the CIA can make Jimi Hendrix, why don't they make more of them?

• 1:08:02Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:08:03Joe Rogan?

  Seems pretty awesome. Like, why, why wouldn't you?

• 1:08:05Speaker 00

  Maybe they have, maybe the modern day, they, they learnt that like Lady Gaga will do or whatever. Maybe that's like the new thing.

• 1:08:12Joe Rogan?

  Maybe. Lady Gaga, Lady Gaga's working for the CIA. There's probably somebody who believes that.

• 1:08:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:18Joe Rogan?

  There's probably some, some theory about Lady Gaga.

• 1:08:20Speaker 00

  Everyone's a plant now. That's the new thing. Everyone's a plant. That's what they say. Anyone who's successful, they all plant for sure.

• 1:08:26Joe Rogan?

  I go in the comments sometimes and I see all the people that they think are plants.

• 1:08:30Speaker 00

  You, you're a plant.

• 1:08:30Joe Rogan?

  I'm, that's what I think, yeah. It's kind of interesting that I'm not. It's interesting to me that I'm not. Like, it's interesting to me that no one has.

• 1:08:38Speaker 00

  They haven't.

• 1:08:39Joe Rogan?

  Tried to recruit me or pay me or hire me or influence me to do things.

• 1:08:43Speaker 00

  They don't need to.

• 1:08:44Joe Rogan?

  They definitely come on the show and say some things that aren't true and I'm aware of that. And I feel like all I can do is like hear their perspective, let the world make their own distinction. And I think people are pretty good at it these days. Like, fuck this guy, he's this, he's that, he's working for this guy and working for that guy. But if you talk to enough people, they'll assume that you've been recruited. But the really fascinating thing is I haven't. That's what's really fascinating. The really fascinating thing is that no one has any influence over what goes on the show other than me.

• 1:09:16Speaker 00

  Maybe they have you and you don't even know it. Maybe you're under their spell, Joe.

• 1:09:19Joe Rogan?

  Right, like a Manchurian candidate.

• 1:09:21Speaker 00

  They fucking, they, they hacked your Instagram account, like, so now you're getting particular things into the feed.

• 1:09:25Joe Rogan?

  Right. It's like, this is a thing.

• 1:09:27Speaker 00

  Would that be on, would that be crazy?

• 1:09:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, it wouldn't be crazy, but that's not gonna work, cause I barely go on Instagram.

• 1:09:32Speaker 00

  All right.

• 1:09:33Joe Rogan?

  That's not gonna work. And the Instagram stuff that I get to, it's almost like ancient history shit and.

• 1:09:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:38Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 1:09:38Speaker 00

  That's nice.

• 1:09:39Joe Rogan?

  Bar fights.

• 1:09:40Speaker 00

  Sure, sure.

• 1:09:41Joe Rogan?

  A lot of assassinations.

• 1:09:42Speaker 00

  Really?

• 1:09:43Joe Rogan?

  A lot of like, uh, South American assassinations.

• 1:09:46Speaker 00

  Like the presidential stuff?

• 1:09:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, no, uh, people just getting whacked in a diner or a pool hall. Someone comes in and just fucking blows some guy's brains out in front of everybody.

• 1:09:54Speaker 00

  And then how do you feel after you put your phone down?

• 1:09:56Joe Rogan?

  Not great. Well, that's one of the reasons why I try to stay off of it.

• 1:10:01Speaker 00

  You, you're ignoring your kids going, sorry, I gotta watch this, uh, I gotta watch this guy getting shot in the fucking head.

• 1:10:05Joe Rogan?

  No, I, I try not to do it at home, at home.

• 1:10:08Speaker 00

  You got it. You get, the only solution is just to get it and throw it in the fucking river and we all just go back to kind of just emailing.

• 1:10:13Joe Rogan?

  I've been toying with the idea of moving away from a smartphone.

• 1:10:17Speaker 02

  Have you seen the stuff about the TVs going on?

• 1:10:19Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:10:20Speaker 00

  They call it a dome phone, right?

• 1:10:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, smart, Samsung TVs might use the mics of connected devices to listen to you.

• 1:10:27Speaker 00

  They, they, they're definitely listening.

• 1:10:29Speaker 02

  So people always think it's a phone listening, but it's every other device around you listening and then sending it to an ad company.

• 1:10:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's the thing is like, there's, there's terms of services, like, that you sign up for when you, uh, click accept. And you don't even read those fucking things. And some of them, like the TikTok one is insane.

• 1:10:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:49Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if it is insane now, but the old TikTok one was TikTok, if you had a phone and that phone had TikTok on it. TikTok was allowed to have access to the other computers that are on the network that don't have TikTok on them. So you're essentially allowing whatever that program is, whatever the software is, to access passwords, keystrokes, your microphone, all kinds of wild shit.

• 1:11:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:20Joe Rogan?

  It's like, some security expert looked at it and said, it is one of the worst pieces of software I've ever read.

• 1:11:27Speaker 00

  These were the, these were the new guys who bought it and then they, is it?

• 1:11:30Joe Rogan?

  No, this is before.

• 1:11:31Speaker 00

  This is the old guys.

• 1:11:32Joe Rogan?

  This is before.

• 1:11:32Speaker 00

  They was forced to sell it.

• 1:11:33Joe Rogan?

  And now it's owned by.

• 1:11:34Speaker 00

  The old Chinese guys or whatever.

• 1:11:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, now it's owned by the same people that own CNN, CBS. They, they.

• 1:11:41Speaker 00

  That's good, let them own everything. Let fucking give them everything at this point.

• 1:11:46Speaker 00

  You'll change the narrative if you just own all forms of conversation.

• 1:11:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's gonna be interesting to see what they do with CNN, right? So, all of a sudden, these Israel supporters own CNN.

• 1:11:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:58Joe Rogan?

  So, let's see what happens.

• 1:11:59Speaker 00

  Well, that's probably just a nail in the coffin for all this mainstream shit, right?

• 1:12:02Joe Rogan?

  Probably, yeah.

• 1:12:04Speaker 00

  It's tough, it's tough to kinda, people watch, people like love that. Like, people will sit down.

• 1:12:09Joe Rogan?

  The olds.

• 1:12:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, the boomers.

• 1:12:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the olds who are tired and their knees hurt.

• 1:12:14Speaker 00

  And they're a little scared because they're old and then this guy's telling them why they should be scared. Whatever it is, Fox News, CNN, and it's the same talking points, it's the same bullshit.

• 1:12:24Joe Rogan?

  Yep, yep.

• 1:12:25Speaker 00

  You know, and then they just, then they'll, they'll be like, breaking news coming up. And then they'll push some fucking pharmaceutical bullshit on you, you know?

• 1:12:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you got two types of olds. You got the old boomers that are liberals, that are basically like they have dried out brains and they just, they just support narratives no matter what.

• 1:12:43Speaker 00

  I don't really know any old liberals, to be honest.

• 1:12:45Joe Rogan?

  You don't? Oh, old liberals are fascinating because they get violently angry when you confront them with facts.

• 1:12:51Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:12:52Joe Rogan?

  They get very angry.

• 1:12:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:54Joe Rogan?

  Whereas old conservatives are worried about like immigration. They're worried about.

• 1:13:00Speaker 00

  They're in a state of fear, though.

• 1:13:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, they're both in a state of fear.

• 1:13:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:13:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, olds, a lot of the olds, they get in a state of fear because they're dying. They know the end is near and they know their health is not well.

• 1:13:11Speaker 00

  And they still think TV is truth. They were raised on news is truth.

• 1:13:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:13:15Speaker 00

  And then they still have that.

• 1:13:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and they take all their boosters. This is what they have now.

• 1:13:20Speaker 00

  Skydance is the name of the company?

• 1:13:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so they have all the HBOs, MTV, Nickelodeon, Paramount Plus.

• 1:13:27Speaker 00

  Nickelodeon?

• 1:13:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they own Nickelodeon.

• 1:13:30Speaker 00

  What do you think about Palestine?

• 1:13:33Joe Rogan?

  TNT, wow, Warner Brothers.

• 1:13:37Joe Rogan?

  What are, what are the other ones? Adult Swim, wow.

• 1:13:41Speaker 00

  All these cartoons is crazy.

• 1:13:43Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy. Country Music Channel, wow. Cooking, they own the golf and DC Comics.

• 1:13:51Speaker 02

  There's also the golf channel, that's not the same.

• 1:13:52Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, they own everything. That is cra- Eurosport, that is Discovery, that's crazy.

• 1:13:58Speaker 00

  I'd love, I'd love to own all that, to be honest.

• 1:14:01Joe Rogan?

  What would you do? Animal Planet?

• 1:14:02Speaker 00

  I would sort of just, I don't know, I'd probably just like fuck with people who bullied me when I was younger or something. Just like put out this, put out a random little news article every now and again about some guy having a little dick.

• 1:14:12Joe Rogan?

  Ah, they own the Free Press.

• 1:14:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:15Joe Rogan?

  They own everything. It's a, it's a strange time, but it's like, all that mainstream stuff, other than things like Paramount Plus and streaming networks that show shows and, and, you know, that things that people actually still watch, most people are fucking tuned out to that. Young people are just like, you're not gonna get them.

• 1:14:33Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:14:34Joe Rogan?

  They're done.

• 1:14:34Speaker 00

  It's, it's, yeah, it's, it'd be crazy to meet a twenty year old who sits down and puts on a little bit of fucking CNN at night.

• 1:14:42Joe Rogan?

  And really is invested.

• 1:14:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:43Joe Rogan?

  Interesting, wow.

• 1:14:44Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:14:45Joe Rogan?

  I didn't know.

• 1:14:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's like the most boring, and it's, it's like embarrassing. It's like, things whizzing by the screen and shit like that, coming up, breaking news, coming up. It's like it's been, been coming up forever.

• 1:14:57Joe Rogan?

  Jimmy Carr was on the podcast yesterday and one of the things that he brought up was that, was it, was it his father that he was talking about who recognized that when they started putting music on the news? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, so when they started putting music on the news, like, oh, fuck, they're making it, dun, dun, dum. Da, da, dum, breaking news.

• 1:15:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, they hired some movie director.

• 1:15:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and then it zooms in to fucking Anderson Cooper standing there with his glasses on, looking very intelligent, very professional.

• 1:15:24Speaker 00

  Standing in front of a big, big screen TV, yeah.

• 1:15:27Joe Rogan?

  Breaking news today.

• 1:15:28Speaker 00

  We've got some bar charts that are, that mean nothing, yeah. And you can sit there and go, hmm, I'm learning.

• 1:15:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:34Speaker 00

  But a lot of people watch that shit too and then you go, what did you just watch? And they go, I don't really know.

• 1:15:38Joe Rogan?

  They just got upset.

• 1:15:39Speaker 00

  They kinda just, yeah, they kinda just phase out with the headlines.

• 1:15:42Joe Rogan?

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• 1:17:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, once you also know that they have an obligation to the advertisers to

• 1:17:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:17:32Speaker 00

  Kind of say certain things, then it's like the whole thing is a fraud.

• 1:17:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a lot of the old liberals do not want to believe that. And that's one of the things that they.

• 1:17:40Speaker 00

  They're not doing it for the good of their fucking health. They're doing, it's a business.

• 1:17:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:43Speaker 00

  And your attention is the fucking money.

• 1:17:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, the best piece of evidence is that is they don't criticize pharmaceutical drug companies.

• 1:17:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:50Joe Rogan?

  Because they're, they're a primary advertiser.

• 1:17:52Speaker 00

  You think it's unethical for, to do that?

• 1:17:54Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:17:55Speaker 00

  To.

• 1:17:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's only two countries that even allow it, the United States and New Zealand.

• 1:18:00Speaker 00

  What's going on over there?

• 1:18:01Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Apparently, they're much more restrictive though than us.

• 1:18:03Speaker 00

  The Kiwis, yeah.

• 1:18:04Joe Rogan?

  But in the United States, they allow people like, how many fucking ads, if you watch regular television, do you see that are pharmaceutical drugs? That are naming off a bunch of very obscure conditions that you've never even heard of? So, why is there enough of a desire for this that you're gonna put an ad on television for a very obscure medication?

• 1:18:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, if you're sick and you need it, you should be able to find it.

• 1:18:29Joe Rogan?

  Ask your doctor.

• 1:18:30Speaker 00

  It shouldn't be impulse like, oh, that sounds like me, I should, I should try that.

• 1:18:33Joe Rogan?

  Ask your doctor, Colum, about fuck it all. I think what's really going on though, and you know, this has been, this is not my take, this is Cali Means and a lot of these other people. Their position is that why they do that is not to advertise their drugs so people buy the drugs. They do that so that the networks won't criticize the pharmaceutical drug companies. So, they advertise all their various products.

• 1:18:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:57Joe Rogan?

  And it gets it out there, but more importantly, it protects them from the iris, the eye of Sauron.

• 1:19:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:19:03Joe Rogan?

  It protects them from the news looking at it. Because if their news really was the news, they would look into all the adverse drug deaths and all the different people that die because of these fucking drugs that wind up getting pulled from the market because the FDA didn't do their due diligence when they passed them and.

• 1:19:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Because I, but I remember I was listening to some guy had a role in, you know, I guess, Big Pharma Regulations or whatever. And they were talking about Purdue Pharma. And, um, one of the things that was crazy was they, the guy asked them a question. He goes, is Purdue Pharma with all of their unethical techniques that they did to push that heroin essentially on innocent people, why are they operating uniquely in the industry? And they're like, no, every single pharmaceutical company follows the exact same way. The problem was is that Purdue Pharma and the OxyContin fucked up communities to such a degree that they couldn't get away with it.

• 1:20:02Speaker 00

  Whereas Xanax, you could argue, there's a lot of people addicted to Xanax, there's fucking, but it's not enough that people are tweaking and smashing fucking someone's head in at a liquor store for $20.

• 1:20:11Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:20:11Speaker 00

  So, they're getting away with it, you know?

• 1:20:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:14Speaker 00

  But it's the same lying.

• 1:20:15Joe Rogan?

  Function on it.

• 1:20:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's the same lying, it's the same bullshit, it's the same like fucking doctored results, things like that.

• 1:20:21Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever seen someone trying to get off Xanax?

• 1:20:23Speaker 00

  No, actually, I haven't lived through that, no.

• 1:20:25Joe Rogan?

  It is one of the hardest ones, apparently. I know a few people that have had it, but one of them real well. And Jordan Peterson, Jordan Peterson is a big one. Like, Jordan, he got addicted to Xanax and it took him a full year.

• 1:20:38Speaker 00

  Is that why he disappeared for a while?

• 1:20:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:40Speaker 00

  Because of Xanax?

• 1:20:41Joe Rogan?

  He had to go through some medical detox in Russia. Why Russia, I don't know.

• 1:20:45Speaker 00

  Did they put him into a coma or something?

• 1:20:46Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, maybe.

• 1:20:50Joe Rogan?

  He doesn't really talk too much about it, but he seems different. You know, and I think there's a bunch of factors there why he seems different. He was very wise and interesting when I first, not that he's not still. He's very wise, very interesting, very well-read guy. But much more damaged now. And whether that is because of health, I think it's also the pressure that comes with fame. I mean, he was a forty-something-year-old professor in Toronto, you know, who's a psychologist. He's not a guy who was seeking out this kind of attention and fame. And then all of a sudden, he's doing lectures in front of tens of thousands of people all over the world.

• 1:21:34Joe Rogan?

  Like traveling everywhere, doing these sold-out lectures where he's talking about all kinds of different, interesting things. And it showed that people have a hunger for fascinating topics and deep discussions and conversations. Cause his lectures are very, very popular. But I think over time, like some of his outbursts and like he's like, you know, yelled at people online, all these different things, I think some of that is just the pressure. Most people don't have any idea what that pressure's like. And then you all of a sudden get in it when you're in your forties.

• 1:22:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:09Joe Rogan?

  And you were never seeking it. And then everywhere you go, people are misrepresenting who you are. And trying to make it seem as if you're some evil, right-wing racist, xenophobic, you know, transphobic, homophobic.

• 1:22:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:27Joe Rogan?

  Idologue.

• 1:22:28Speaker 00

  It would be exhausting to have to live your life where every single thing is a take that is like a fucking controversial argument with people. Every, cause everywhere he lives, you know, in conversation is a difficulty. It's not, it's not a very simple, you know, let's all have ice cream and watch fucking NBA. It's something about surgeons should be fucking losing their license for operating on trans people or whatever. You know, and that's like just a difficult, it's a real heavy life to be in that conversation.

• 1:23:02Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:23:03Speaker 00

  All the time.

• 1:23:03Joe Rogan?

  All the time. Yeah, that's one of the benefits of doing a podcast, especially if you're a comic. Like I could have a guy on one day that talks about that stuff and then the next guy on, he, you know, met Bigfoot.

• 1:23:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:23:15Joe Rogan?

  Is that a Bigfoot t-shirt?

• 1:23:17Speaker 00

  It's a Sasquatch fucking shirt. I went to Mount Rushmore. I'm the ultimate tourist. I'll do it all.

• 1:23:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:24Speaker 00

  I love it. I love going to fucking bookies and then getting a photo with the mascot. I went to Mount Rushmore. I did one of the best trips of my life last summer. I heard about how beautiful Montana is and everything, so I fucking worked with my agent to get like, we went Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho, which is probably the most beautiful place in fucking America.

• 1:23:46Joe Rogan?

  Pretty gorgeous.

• 1:23:46Speaker 00

  All up there. And now I've got the, so we went everywhere, but over there, which is like, I think Rapid City is the closest to. Rapid City's nice, but then they've got like the Black Mountains out there, the Black Forest Mountains. It's just beautiful out there, beautiful. So that's all I wanna do now.

• 1:24:02Joe Rogan?

  Is there supposedly Bigfoot sightings near Mount Rushmore?

• 1:24:04Speaker 00

  I don't think there is. That's the funny thing about it. I think I just, it was the only thing that didn't say like, I heart fucking Mount Rushmore. So I wanted a shirt and I was like, this'll kinda do, Sasquatch type of a Mount Rushmore shirt.

• 1:24:16Joe Rogan?

  That's a special kind of person, the person who really loves Bigfoot.

• 1:24:20Speaker 00

  I'd love to go to these places and do a little hunting.

• 1:24:23Joe Rogan?

  Duncan and I did it.

• 1:24:24Speaker 00

  You weren't looking for it, they guys?

• 1:24:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Duncan Trussell and I. I had a show back in two thousand and eleven or twelve called Joe Rogan Questions Everything.

• 1:24:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:24:31Joe Rogan?

  And one of the things, we like, let's do a deep dive on chemtrails. Let's do a deep dive on UFOs. Let's do a deep dive. And so we did a deep dive on Bigfoot hunters. So we went and met people that met Bigfoot. We took, a lot of it is in the Pacific Northwest.

• 1:24:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's the, that's the hotbed.

• 1:24:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, also a lot of meth, a lot of meth, a lot of Sasquatch.

• 1:24:53Joe Rogan?

  A lot of heroin, a lot of Sasquatch.

• 1:24:54Speaker 00

  There is a car.

• 1:24:55Joe Rogan?

  Are these the Bigfoot sightings?

• 1:24:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, look where the big clump is here.

• 1:24:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's in Texas.

• 1:24:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, east Texas. Close to the pod.

• 1:25:00Joe Rogan?

  Is that where the moonshine's made?

• 1:25:03Speaker 02

  I have no idea, I just popped it up.

• 1:25:04Joe Rogan?

  Is there any near Austin?

• 1:25:05Speaker 00

  But there's like, there's not.

• 1:25:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:25:08Joe Rogan?

  There's Bigfoot sightings in Austin?

• 1:25:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's at least four, one down in Wimberley.

• 1:25:12Joe Rogan?

  Are you sure those aren't Medsger with a wig on?

• 1:25:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:15Speaker 02

  Let's see what it says.

• 1:25:17Joe Rogan?

  When was that?

• 1:25:17Speaker 02

  Airman encounters nighttime encounter on Burgestrum Air Force Base.

• 1:25:21Joe Rogan?

  In eighty-one on an air force base? He might be, yeah, he might be an alien.

• 1:25:25Speaker 02

  Uh, September twenty thirteen, man has afternoon sighting of large bipedal creature.

• 1:25:30Joe Rogan?

  Afternoon sighting. Man was sitting there drinking moonshine. All of a sudden, this big hair fella come over to me, wants me to suck his dick. I'm like, I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.

• 1:25:42Speaker 02

  Nineteen eighty while two go shoot target practice, two men see upright hair-covered figure.

• 1:25:49Joe Rogan?

  Mmm, homeless guy.

• 1:25:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:51Joe Rogan?

  Could be anything.

• 1:25:52Speaker 00

  It was nineteen eighty. A guy with a fur jacket on.

• 1:25:55Joe Rogan?

  There was no homeless people in the eighties, is that what you're saying?

• 1:25:56Speaker 02

  There's barely anybody here back then.

• 1:25:59Speaker 02

  This is a coast town.

• 1:26:00Speaker 00

  But is, so is the northwest up in Washington, is that more, is that more?

• 1:26:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a lot of bears up there and bears walk upright. They do it all the time. And I think that's a lot of it. Also, the way it, one of the things that, one of the first things that Duncan and I noticed when we went up there is that when you're in the Pacific Northwest, the trees are so dense because it rained so much. It's like a box of Q-tips. Like you can't see, you can't see through the trees. Like there's so many trees. It's like.

• 1:26:29Speaker 00

  And you just sort of see a shadow.

• 1:26:30Joe Rogan?

  You see a shadow, you see a thing moving, and then in your head, your head starts spinning. Like I was in Alberta once and for like a second, I thought I saw a wolf and it was a squirrel.

• 1:26:41Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:26:43Joe Rogan?

  It was a squirrel moving through the woods and I saw the gray and I think, oh, it's a fucking squirrel. Like what's wrong with me? But my mind had convinced me for a very short amount of time that it was a wolf.

• 1:26:54Speaker 00

  Definitely.

• 1:26:55Joe Rogan?

  And I was like, you silly bitch.

• 1:26:57Speaker 00

  Where was this?

• 1:26:57Joe Rogan?

  Alberta.

• 1:26:58Speaker 00

  Alberta, nice.

• 1:26:59Joe Rogan?

  Very, again, again, very dense. We did see a wolf up there, I'm pretty sure. It was either a wolf or a big coyote, but it was at dusk and it was running across the road. But they have wolves up there.

• 1:27:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:10Joe Rogan?

  My friends John and Jen, they run a bear hunting operation up there. And they send me photos of wolves. They just sent me a photo of a wolf that were over a trail cam today.

• 1:27:20Speaker 00

  Wow, that's all, that's like, kind of all I wanna do right now. I'm organizing like a hike in the Thorrefair, do you know that? In South Yellowstone.

• 1:27:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you wanna go to the woods?

• 1:27:29Speaker 00

  It's, it's not even the woods, it's just like open, rolling hills in like South Yellowstone. Near the lake, it's called the Thorrefair. And then you walk to the middle of it, it's forty miles in any direction from a road. And it's grizzly country, wolf country, elk, some moose, I believe.

• 1:27:44Joe Rogan?

  You wanna go in there?

• 1:27:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's all I wanna do.

• 1:27:47Joe Rogan?

  Why do you wanna do that?

• 1:27:48Speaker 00

  Just cause I just started solo hiking and it's like my favorite thing in the world.

• 1:27:52Joe Rogan?

  So do you get like a big backpack?

• 1:27:54Speaker 00

  I get a big.

• 1:27:55Joe Rogan?

  All your food and a tent in it and the whole deal?

• 1:27:57Speaker 00

  Exactly, and then it's the most, I don't, I can't even explain it, but it's like a therapeutically, you pack up all your shit, you have no distractions, you make your food and then you just, all your goal is just march.

• 1:28:09Joe Rogan?

  By yourself?

• 1:28:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, and you'll meet people, you'll say hello. I've never done like the Thorrefair, I was like, that's as wild, but I'm definitely gonna do it.

• 1:28:16Joe Rogan?

  But you've done the solo camping where you just put the backpack on? How far deep into the mountains did you go?

• 1:28:22Speaker 00

  Oh, I've never gone too crazy. I've gone like along the Appalachian Trail and things like that, so you don't see people.

• 1:28:27Joe Rogan?

  But the trail is, at least it's a documented trail.

• 1:28:30Speaker 00

  It is a documented trail. You'll have designated campsites and then there's all like bear safety stuff where you're not allowed to cook, where you sleep and you have the bear hangs and things like that. So.

• 1:28:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:40Speaker 00

  I'm excited, you worried about me?

• 1:28:42Joe Rogan?

  I'm a little worried about you, yeah. Like going, do you bring an inReach or anything? Do you know what that is?

• 1:28:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, like a Garmin.

• 1:28:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, I gotta buy a Garmin.

• 1:28:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:52Speaker 00

  Or is that how you say, I'm not gonna buy one, I'm gonna go to expensive one. I gotta get bear spray, things like that.

• 1:28:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:57Speaker 00

  And then it seems like, people do it all the time. I've watched so many just vlogs of people walking around these areas. And as long as you're not stupid and safe and. And they get cool videos, I'm woken up by the elk, fucking bugling in the morning, all this type of stuff. That's all I wanna do is just, I don't have any kids yet, so I'm kind of hoping to get this out of the way before it seems a little too responsible, irresponsible.

• 1:29:18Joe Rogan?

  Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're gonna do the solo hiking, get eaten by a wolf, do it now.

• 1:29:23Speaker 00

  But the Thorrefair is definitely my, my goal. That's what I wanna do. It's eight days, you have to pack all your shit with you and you just head out, you just head out. But something about that, when I'm marching on those, after about twenty minutes, I just, I don't know. I get into this weird fucking headspace where I'm just like, march, march, march. And that's all I'm thinking, I'm just empty, empty head.

• 1:29:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:43Speaker 00

  I think I've got too many fucking thoughts going on in there.

• 1:29:46Joe Rogan?

  I think everybody does.

• 1:29:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:29:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, I also think that there's something about being in the woods that's very therapeutic, just naturally. Because that's our, that's our, that's the natural environment where human beings are supposed to be. We're supposed to be in nature. We are a part of nature and we're disconnected by nature by being in cities. And I think there's a little bit of anxiety and weirdness that comes with that and that it goes away when you're out in the woods.

• 1:30:10Speaker 00

  It definitely goes away. And I think the simplicity of life is like, your phone, you don't have signal, so it doesn't really matter. You have your map out. I'd love to even go a step further and have like a fucking compass and a real map. And try to do like orienteering style, but I don't, I don't really have the.

• 1:30:24Joe Rogan?

  I have a bunch of friends who do solo hunts where they go in and hunt.

• 1:30:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:29Joe Rogan?

  Solo.

• 1:30:29Speaker 00

  And where do they do this all over? They do this everywhere?

• 1:30:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, you have to go to designated areas and you have to go to like places where you can get a tag. But there's a bunch of places where you can get what's called an over-the-counter tag. Or, you know, you put in for a draw, you know, so what it means is like these biologists determine like, say if you're deer hunting, the biologist determine there's X amount of deer in this area. And to keep the population healthy, you should remove X amount. And so they, they put out generally enough tags to be, it's, most people aren't successful. So it's like, they put out more tags probably than they want animals killed.

• 1:31:09Speaker 00

  So they'll give you like five tags?

• 1:31:11Joe Rogan?

  No, no, most likely you get one. You'd get one tag, but they'd put tags out for, you know, let's say it's, so that there's, the way public land works in America, there's certain areas that are restricted units where it takes a long time to get a tag. Like if you wanna get like a Nevada elk tag, very hard to get. You might put in for twenty years and then you get one, so it's a tag of a lifetime. And if you get a, like a Nevada elk tag is a big one because they have giant elk in Nevada. It's a very famous place to elk hunt.

• 1:31:41Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:31:41Joe Rogan?

  And so people will wait forever, they finally get that tag and then they organize, they get some friends to help them. And then they'll go out and they'll, you know, pack in.

• 1:31:50Speaker 00

  And these are probably in the kind of mountainous regions of Nevada where the grass is out.

• 1:31:55Joe Rogan?

  Like the Apache reservations in Nevada are famous for elk hunting. Because it's like some of the best elk hunting territory in the world. And the way it works is the nations control it, so. Reservations in our country, they're essentially of their own laws. And they're not subject to the laws of the United States government, so they-

• 1:32:17Speaker 00

  Even with animals, even with-

• 1:32:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, with everything.

• 1:32:20Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 1:32:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, it's crazy, like, in Canada, they alongside everyone else, so in Canada, it's called Crown Land. That's what public land is in Canada. And if you're on Crown Land and you're a whitey, like me or you, you, you know, you get a tag for a bear, or a tag for an elk, or a tag for a moose. They can do whatever they want. The indigenous people, they call them First Nation people. When we were up there, we were fishing, right? And when you're fishing, you're allowed to catch one walleye a day. So we're on this dock and we're catching, but we're next to these natives, and they're pulling in walleyes left and right and putting them in buckets. They can catch as many as they want. They can use spotlights at night to shoot moose. So they blind us moose to the spotlight, and boom, they're shooting them off the top of trucks.

• 1:33:06Speaker 00

  And then they eat moose?

• 1:33:07Joe Rogan?

  Yep. Oh, moose are delicious.

• 1:33:08Speaker 00

  Is moose good?

• 1:33:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's delicious.

• 1:33:09Speaker 00

  I've never seen one. I wanna, I wanna see one so bad. I wanna go up to the Adirondacks and do some canoeing.

• 1:33:13Joe Rogan?

  If you see a moose.

• 1:33:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:33:15Joe Rogan?

  The thing about a moose, as opposed to every other deer species, they will fucking kill you.

• 1:33:19Speaker 00

  They're gonna go nuts.

• 1:33:19Joe Rogan?

  They'll kill you. They will stomp you to death.

• 1:33:22Speaker 00

  I wanna see one from afar. I don't wanna get stomped to death by a moose. That's a little too much.

• 1:33:24Joe Rogan?

  The females with their calves are the most dangerous. They're fucking dangerous. They're huge. You don't realize how big they are until you're with them.

• 1:33:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:33:32Joe Rogan?

  You're like, oh my god. I only went moose hunting once, and that was in B.C. And it is wild when you see one in real life. You can't believe how big they are. They're so big. They're enormous. And they will fucking kill you. Like, they'll kill you, because they have to defend themselves. They're around bears and wolves. They're used to stomping things. And they weigh eighteen hundred pounds.

• 1:33:56Speaker 00

  And they're probably, they kind of waddle in the water a little, right?

• 1:33:59Joe Rogan?

  They go in the water.

• 1:34:00Speaker 00

  You're canoeing, they'll just fucking-

• 1:34:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they won't come after you if you're in a canoe.

• 1:34:04Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:34:04Joe Rogan?

  No, they'll come after you if on the, like, if you're on the land and they feel like you're too close, or you might be a problem. Oh, they're fast enough. They're faster than you and me. That's for fuck's sake. They have four legs and big muscles. Yeah, they'll fuck you up.

• 1:34:17Speaker 00

  I kinda, that's the way I wanna go. I wanna-

• 1:34:19Joe Rogan?

  Get stomped by a moose?

• 1:34:20Speaker 00

  Something.

• 1:34:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 1:34:22Speaker 00

  Getting stomped by a wild animal, standing on a snake while you're on a hike, something like that.

• 1:34:26Joe Rogan?

  That's how you wanna go?

• 1:34:27Speaker 00

  Kinda tragically hilarious, yeah.

• 1:34:29Joe Rogan?

  That's a tragic thing.

• 1:34:30Speaker 00

  And everybody makes fun of me on a podcast going, look at that fucking idiot, Colin. Tried to get a fucking selfie with a moose and he fucking got that antler in the back of the head.

• 1:34:38Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever seen that Instagram page, Torons of Yellowstone?

• 1:34:41Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 1:34:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:34:42Speaker 00

  It's just fat idiots getting ran over by a bison.

• 1:34:45Joe Rogan?

  Bison's-

• 1:34:46Speaker 00

  Love it.

• 1:34:46Joe Rogan?

  Sending people flying through the air.

• 1:34:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, there was a video last year, this old guy, some old geezer, and the bison fucking hit him and he fucking, he did, he did a huge- And he got up, brushed himself off, and fucking, he was good.

• 1:34:58Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:34:59Speaker 00

  But it was unlucky, because I think the bison chased a car that drove by, and then when the car moved away, they were right there. So they were doing their distance right, and then they were running around a tree like fucking, uh, Three Stooges trying to get away. And then he just caught one, and he went-

• 1:35:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, god.

• 1:35:14Speaker 00

  And it's like a viral photo of him just being thrown huge in the sky.

• 1:35:18Joe Rogan?

  There's so many people that want selfies with those animals. It's so stupid.

• 1:35:21Speaker 00

  That was crazy.

• 1:35:22Joe Rogan?

  And to this day, people, there's something about, I'm wondering how many people have died from selfies?

• 1:35:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's kind of fine, though. It's kind of, it's kind, it's kinda, there's a lot of traffic. And if you, if you're on a cliff getting a selfie and you tumble down.

• 1:35:38Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:35:39Speaker 00

  It's kind of okay to me. Or if you're, or if a fucking elephant fucking-

• 1:35:42Joe Rogan?

  It's tragic, but it's-

• 1:35:44Speaker 00

  It's tragic, sure.

• 1:35:45Joe Rogan?

  It's understandable, and especially young people.

• 1:35:46Speaker 00

  But not all deaths have to be tragic, do they, for fuck's sake?

• 1:35:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, we're all gonna die, and some deaths are learning experiences for the people that survive.

• 1:35:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:35:54Joe Rogan?

  Which is the Torons of Yellowstone.

• 1:35:56Speaker 00

  It's not happened to me.

• 1:35:57Joe Rogan?

  Not yet.

• 1:35:58Speaker 00

  That's, that's the New York mentality, when someone gets pushed in front of a train. We all kinda go, it wasn't me.

• 1:36:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, it happens infrequently enough that you're not nervous about it.

• 1:36:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:36:08Joe Rogan?

  But you know it's a possibility. You don't stand right there and, like, peek out.

• 1:36:12Speaker 00

  I just don't think, yeah, I just don't think that would happen to me. I don't know why. I just have this confident feeling that someone's not gonna shove me in front of a fucking train.

• 1:36:18Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:36:19Speaker 00

  Something about, I just think of my, they know better.

• 1:36:22Joe Rogan?

  They know better.

• 1:36:23Speaker 00

  They, yeah.

• 1:36:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, they probably try to do vulnerable people.

• 1:36:25Speaker 00

  They're little Asian ladies, yeah, probably. That would be the, that would be the easiest.

• 1:36:29Joe Rogan?

  How many people every year get pushed in front of a train?

• 1:36:32Speaker 00

  I think one or two. It's like a big news story, usually. If even, if even that much.

• 1:36:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:38Speaker 00

  Yeah. But, you know, I've never gone hunting. I'm organizing a hunting trip. My cousin, he's a hunter in Ireland. He's a YouTuber now, actually. He makes these great videos.

• 1:36:47Joe Rogan?

  On hunting?

• 1:36:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, he hunts in Ireland. He hunts there, in the Shlie Blue Mountains. Huge, beautiful, like, they're more like, Irish mountains are hills, by the way, but like, beautiful. So he's a YouTuber now. Cawhul Rown, if anyone wants to go, check out this, uh, shout out to my little cousin.

• 1:37:02Joe Rogan?

  Twenty to twenty-five people are pushed onto the tracks per year.

• 1:37:05Speaker 00

  Okay, but they're pushed onto the tracks.

• 1:37:07Joe Rogan?

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• 1:39:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's just the New York subway.

• 1:39:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Not necessarily people struck or killed by a train. Some victims escaped before the train arrives. December twenty-four, Brooklyn case, the victim climbed back onto the platform seconds before an incoming train. Fuck.

• 1:39:24Speaker 00

  See, that's what I would do.

• 1:39:25Joe Rogan?

  What if you're old and you can't pull yourself up, and you realize, like, you're just gonna sit there until that train turns you into a jelly?

• 1:39:31Speaker 02

  Also, there's a count on selfie deaths. It's a-

• 1:39:35Joe Rogan?

  Let's guess. Let's guess. How many people per year die by selfie?

• 1:39:39Speaker 00

  Globally, at least, four hundred?

• 1:39:42Joe Rogan?

  I say two thousand.

• 1:39:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think you're right. I fucked up. Fuck. Let me go again.

• 1:39:45Joe Rogan?

  Cause, okay.

• 1:39:48Speaker 00

  Two thousand and ten.

• 1:39:49Joe Rogan?

  Two thousand and ten, okay. You'll say two thousand and ten, I'll say seventeen hundred.

• 1:39:53Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:39:53Joe Rogan?

  I'll go low.

• 1:39:54Speaker 02

  Way too high.

• 1:39:55Speaker 00

  Way too high?

• 1:39:56Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  I mean, this is just reported, so it's four hundred and twenty-five deaths linked over forty-nine countries. I would have to say since two thousand and eleven or so.

• 1:40:06Joe Rogan?

  But how many of them get reported?

• 1:40:07Speaker 02

  That's what it says.

• 1:40:08Joe Rogan?

  Like, if a guy falls off a mountain, how do you know? How he fell off a mountain?

• 1:40:12Speaker 00

  Well, you ever see that, you ever see that, the fellow who got caught killing his wife? I think it was India, maybe I'm wrong, but they were getting photos, and he kept going, go a little further. But he didn't realize people were up on another cliff could see it, and then he ran over to her and just shoved her off the fucking thing.

• 1:40:25Joe Rogan?

  And people were watching?

• 1:40:26Speaker 00

  People were watching from afar. They saw him fucking shove her. He almost got away with it. Cause then he, but like, then he would have to come down and be like, oh, she wanted a photo.

• 1:40:36Joe Rogan?

  Oscar, look at this. Oscar Otero Aguilar died accidentally shooting himself while posing for a selfie with a loaded handgun.

• 1:40:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:46Speaker 02

  That's happened a few times more recently.

• 1:40:48Joe Rogan?

  That's in Mexico City. Taj Mahal, India. A disputed example. Japanese tourist, Hideto Ueda, was widely reported of died falling on stairs while taking a selfie at the monument's royal gate. An eyewitness described a selfie-related fall, but a police official told AFP the postpartum found a heart attack. Okay.

• 1:41:10Speaker 00

  Right, but if I fall off a cliff because I'm taking a selfie, it's the fucking head wound that kills me, but the selfie didn't kill me. So that's kinda, this selfie led to the heart attack, no?

• 1:41:21Joe Rogan?

  Maybe.

• 1:41:23Speaker 02

  So this is gonna involve until being caught while live streaming?

• 1:41:27Joe Rogan?

  Maybe he had a heart attack when he realized he was falling down the stairs and he's sixty-six years old and he realized, oh my god, I'm gonna die. So he had a heart attack. That's possible too, because you do freak out when you realize like, oh my god, I might die.

• 1:41:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:41Joe Rogan?

  And then your heart's like, check please.

• 1:41:43Speaker 00

  I'm about to die right now.

• 1:41:44Joe Rogan?

  But that means he's probably on the way to dying anyway. If that's what killed him, just a little bit of a freak out from falling down a flight of stairs.

• 1:41:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:51Joe Rogan?

  You know? Work on your core strength, sir.

• 1:41:53Speaker 00

  Have you ever thought you were gonna die? Have you ever like really were like, oh?

• 1:41:57Joe Rogan?

  I was in an accident when I was fourteen. Not an accident with a car. We were hanging out in this, it was like this place that had these giant sewer pipes, like these huge cement sewer pipes. And there was this crane, this attachment that would lift up the pipes, like it would slide into the pipes and they would put it on a crane to lift them up. And we were fucking around and something happened and we were climbing on this thing and it fell. And it hit me on the head. It hit me on the back of the head. I still have a scar on the back of my head. And it hit me so hard that my consciousness grayed out.

• 1:42:41Joe Rogan?

  And I survived, but I thought I was dying. I was convinced I was dying. And I was fourteen. I had to go to the hospital. Just blood everywhere. I still have this gash.

• 1:42:50Speaker 00

  How did they deal with it back then? Did they just sort of say, hey, toughen up?

• 1:42:53Joe Rogan?

  Well, they said, you're okay. You're not dead.

• 1:42:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's how they just dealt with it in the eighties or whatever.

• 1:42:58Joe Rogan?

  I don't even know if I got stitches. Because I have, it's a pretty significant scar. It's like right here, right on that, but if I was here instead of here, I'd be dead.

• 1:43:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:09Joe Rogan?

  So it grazed my head. Like this thing dinged the back of my head and could have easily crushed my skull. I mean, it was this huge metal thing that they used to pick up these, these huge cement tubes.

• 1:43:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:24Joe Rogan?

  And it banged my head and I thought I was dead. I did. I thought, I thought it was going, like it hit me so hard and it was so big and the pain was so extreme. And I didn't go unconscious, but I got real close, like this.

• 1:43:38Speaker 00

  You're a rock, for sure.

• 1:43:40Joe Rogan?

  Like more consciousness, like, and everything went gray and I was like, and I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. And my friends had to take me to the hospital.

• 1:43:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was very scary. I think my friends took me to my parents, my parents took me to the hospital. It's hard to remember it all because it was so traumatic. But I, I thought at that moment I was dead.

• 1:44:00Speaker 00

  Wow. You were like saying goodbye to everybody?

• 1:44:03Joe Rogan?

  No. I was just like, ah! I was just terrified. Like, I've never even done anything. Now I'm dead. For being retarded.

• 1:44:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:10Joe Rogan?

  Being a dumb kid.

• 1:44:11Speaker 00

  I went to Laos years. I traveled Southeast Asia when I was younger. Thailand, Vietnam, Laos. Laos, as sometimes people call it. But the, it's, the whole place there is built on like a tubing economy where they just, you get in a tube and you float down a river from bar to bar. It's like this cool party. Everywhere you go, there's a DJ and each place has like a slide, each bar has a slide. So you get in this tube at the start of the day, where they drive you up to the top of the mountain, you jump in the water, you float, and then there's these little seven-year-old Thailand boys with a water bottle full of water on a fucking rope and they're swinging it. And there's like six of them and they're like swinging it and then they'll and they'll fly through the sky like fucking arrows from the fucking Indians flying.

• 1:44:53Speaker 00

  And they'll land, boom, right in your lap and they'll fucking pull you in and you'd flip them with like a fucking euro or whatever it was. That these like kids, because that's their job. And I mean, they had a fucking accuracy like insane. You want to see talented people, like people in Thailand, Laos, Vietnam? Because they learned just one thing since they're fucking can stand. And it was incredible. But I was over it. I don't know, one of these places had this a cliff you would jump off and then you'd land on this big inflatable like cushion, I said, massive, like twenty feet wide. And I jumped on it, fell off it, and then whatever happened to something, which is natural in the water, and I went down, someone else jumped on it and the thing kind of rotated around. So then I came up, I'm just fucking trapped under this whole thing.

• 1:45:38Speaker 00

  And then I said, fuck, I swam and I tried to swim somewhere else, but it followed me up and then I fuck, I hit it again. So I'm just like, then I remember I started to panic. And then I, I do remember specifically going, relax, don't panic. And I swam down and I just swam and apparently I swam for like fucking so far. And then I came up like, and everyone was worried about me, everyone was fucking crazy.

• 1:45:58Joe Rogan?

  Holy fuck.

• 1:45:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, because people die down there. I think they kind of shut that down. That used to be like the coolest, that was like the last fun Southeast Asia thing where white people could die and it didn't matter. It just sort of didn't matter. It's like, yeah, welcome to fucking Vietnam, baby. You're gonna die here, but it's so much fun.

• 1:46:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, before the internet, people would die and it would only be a local story.

• 1:46:21Speaker 00

  Great.

• 1:46:24Speaker 00

  What a nice time to not have to hear about every fucking person that goes through trouble.

• 1:46:29Joe Rogan?

  That's true. That's a big problem with society today is that we are inundated by the bad news of the whole world. So eight billion people worth of bad news.

• 1:46:37Speaker 00

  And then the visual stuff of the amount of people I've seen die

• 1:46:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:46:41Speaker 00

  is, is crazy.

• 1:46:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:43Speaker 00

  And the amount of things I've experienced through these fucking screens that should not, you know?

• 1:46:49Joe Rogan?

  Right, versus what you've actually seen in real life.

• 1:46:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:46:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a big, it's a big problem. And it's a big problem desensitizing young people. Like, they used to think that like video games desensitized young people. And I'm sure they do. I'm sure like being able to shoot a bunch of people in Call of Duty definitely does some kind of thing to your brain. It's an unusual thing. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And people are splat, blood splattering all over the place and you're like, fuck yeah! You're having fun. But then when you're seeing it live all the time, like when I was a kid, until Faces of Death came out, the, you know what that is?

• 1:47:24Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:47:25Joe Rogan?

  VHS tapes that came out in the nineteen, god, I gotta, I want to say it's the nineteen eighties they came out? And it was a collection of videos of people dying. One of them was this guy, they attached him to, I think they attached him to cars. Like they tied his arms and legs and then pulled him apart. And you, you see a bunch of things, one of them, the famous one was Bud Dwyer.

• 1:47:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:51Joe Rogan?

  You know, from that song, Hey Man, Nice Shot?

• 1:47:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:54Joe Rogan?

  Like that guy, he got caught in some corruption thing. I believe it was in Pennsylvania. I think it was. Anyway, puts a forty-four Magnum in his mouth and just blows his brains out in front of everybody.

• 1:48:04Speaker 00

  It's funny that whatever that scandal was back then, unpaid fucking parking tickets or some shit, that was guy that rocked his whole life and embarrassed the family, is like nowadays, it's like you gotta be caught with a child on your fucking lap before you fucking admit it or retire or anything like that.

• 1:48:21Joe Rogan?

  There's a meme that I just found the other day.

• 1:48:24Speaker 00

  But we, we had rotten.com, that was my generation's version. Rotten.com. I remember being like eight years old and my cousin's showing me a photo of a man with his hard dick in a fish's mouth.

• 1:48:39Speaker 00

  I remember he's so young and it would load. So you would just,

• 1:48:44Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:48:44Speaker 00

  and you have to wait and it would load and you go, is that a fish? And is that, and then it was just cock in his mouth, hard cock in this guy's mouth.

• 1:48:51Joe Rogan?

  And you were like, what?

• 1:48:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. And then they'd show you another suicide guy who would just everywhere.

• 1:48:56Joe Rogan?

  Meanwhile, that's normal now.

• 1:48:58Speaker 00

  It's so normal.

• 1:48:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:00Speaker 00

  There's like, there's like, there's these like, I think society might be better with, I got, I don't know, it's like freedom versus fucking, you know, the good, the good of society, but I think having a couple of walls in place for me to see a man with a cock in a fish would be good for people.

• 1:49:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:49:20Speaker 00

  I think it's just, it's a constant battle of like, do we have speeding limits? Do we not, you know?

• 1:49:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think that's more extreme because it's shaping your mind. Like you're, you're getting access to information that formulates your worldview. And that, that information is not necessary.

• 1:49:37Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:49:37Joe Rogan?

  Like you maybe don't need to see a guy mouthfuck a fish. You know, but mouthfucking a fish is so mild today.

• 1:49:44Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:49:45Joe Rogan?

  That's what's nuts. Like today, that's like, we've seen so, and it's desensitized people to an extreme level, like, I don't know how much of an effect it's had on how people behave, but it has to have a giant, it definitely hasn't had an effect on how people communicate online to each other. They're much shittier to each other than they were back then.

• 1:50:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think they can, maybe they realized that, you know, being online is kind of a, there's a distance, you know?

• 1:50:11Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:50:11Speaker 00

  So it doesn't feel like you're really being human to that stuff.

• 1:50:15Joe Rogan?

  Did you get that meme I was saying?

• 1:50:16Speaker 02

  Oh no, sorry, I was reading about Bud Dwyer. I did stuff I'd never heard. This cra, he was facing fifty-five years.

• 1:50:22Speaker 00

  For what?

• 1:50:23Speaker 02

  A big scandal about some, he, I don't know.

• 1:50:27Speaker 00

  I could, I could see the suicide rather than.

• 1:50:29Joe Rogan?

  Fifty-five hard years.

• 1:50:30Speaker 02

  The part that's crazy is he had this speech that no one knew he was gonna give and it was, it had gone on for thirty minutes. And halfway through it, the press was getting ready to leave and he says, some of these, putting cameras away, I think you ought to stay because we're not finished yet.

• 1:50:45Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:50:45Speaker 00

  That's, that's great.

• 1:50:47Speaker 02

  Put out his envelope and did reading.

• 1:50:47Joe Rogan?

  Thirty minutes?

• 1:50:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:50Joe Rogan?

  Thirty-minute speech and then, well, I would have been happy it was over.

• 1:50:53Speaker 00

  Sure. I, I, I about to shoot myself.

• 1:50:57Joe Rogan?

  What does it say? Go down a little further, down, down, down? Yeah, there we go. "Dwyer alleged that his legal woes were political persecution due to his refusal to grant a travel voucher for Governor Dick Thorneborough's wife for a trip to Europe alleging that Thorneborough said that he would get Dwyer and that Thorneborough referred to him as the fat fuck."

• 1:51:27Joe Rogan?

  "Dwyer spoke out against the death penalty and expressed regret for voting in favor while he was in the Pennsylvania Assembly. Speech lasted for nearly thirty minutes and then he blew his brains out."

• 1:51:38Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 1:51:39Speaker 02

  He faced fifty-five years and a big fine and like his co-conspirator got one year.

• 1:51:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, someone threw him under the bus. Yeah.

• 1:51:47Speaker 00

  I'm surprised there's not more suicides like that constantly. Like a big fucking show. I guess that's what it, like a mass shooting suicide thing is, but I mean, just a suicide is like.

• 1:52:01Joe Rogan?

  This is the meme. Politician in nineteen ninety-six, I smoked pot once but I didn't inhale. Politician in twenty twenty-six, I fucked a child but I didn't eat it.

• 1:52:12Joe Rogan?

  Guy's fucking face, that guy's sweaty face.

• 1:52:14Speaker 00

  That's so funny.

• 1:52:15Joe Rogan?

  Fucked up meme.

• 1:52:16Speaker 00

  That's so funny. Growing up, people said I never, I didn't, I smoked, but I didn't inhale. As if that was like this weird.

• 1:52:22Joe Rogan?

  Right. And then Obama was like, I did coke. I'm like, whoa.

• 1:52:25Speaker 00

  Did he say that?

• 1:52:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:26Speaker 00

  Awesome.

• 1:52:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:27Speaker 00

  Good for him.

• 1:52:28Joe Rogan?

  He definitely said he smoked weed. I mean, there's pictures of him smoking weed.

• 1:52:31Speaker 00

  Good.

• 1:52:32Joe Rogan?

  What were we just talking about just before that?

• 1:52:34Speaker 00

  I don't know. Oh, no, was it the rotten.com stuff?

• 1:52:37Speaker 02

  And then you guys were getting into the fish.

• 1:52:39Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, but just much more recently. I had a point.

• 1:52:42Speaker 00

  Suicide, people doing a fun, a fun suicide for everyone to see.

• 1:52:47Joe Rogan?

  Maybe that's it. I can't remember.

• 1:52:49Speaker 00

  Big showcase.

• 1:52:50Joe Rogan?

  I lost my thought, but I had a thought.

• 1:52:52Speaker 00

  Are these, are these stars that you have, cause they're shooting by, there we go.

• 1:52:55Joe Rogan?

  Sometimes they shoot by, yeah.

• 1:52:56Speaker 00

  Are they, is this like a replica of the, of the actual night sky? It's just, it's just random?

• 1:53:01Joe Rogan?

  Just a bunch of random.

• 1:53:01Speaker 00

  You guys, we, we, me and a few comics last week went out to Big Bend. One of the most fun things we've ever done.

• 1:53:07Joe Rogan?

  In Oregon?

• 1:53:07Speaker 00

  Uh, no, uh, no, sorry. Uh, no, Big Bend.

• 1:53:10Joe Rogan?

  Where's that?

• 1:53:11Speaker 00

  Here.

• 1:53:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Big Bend?

• 1:53:12Speaker 00

  Big Bend National Park. It's in South Texas. It's, it's like the darkest region of.

• 1:53:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's the darkest region in South Texas?

• 1:53:20Speaker 00

  One of them, yeah, down there. So it's a designated night place, so all the lights go off. But we went out there. Yeah, that's exactly where we stayed, at the Chisels Mountains.

• 1:53:28Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, look how beautiful that is.

• 1:53:30Speaker 00

  Fucking insane how nice it is out there. And there was tarantulas walking around and shit, cause it's mating season. They came over and were climbing on our shit and stuff. Nah, it's so cool. It was fucking cool. But I look, so we sat out at night. The sunset would go down and we would watch the, the, the stars come out. And we would sit there for seven hours, just staring. And back, leaning back in our Tommy Bahama chairs.

• 1:53:52Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:53:53Speaker 00

  We did a little LSD. And then just looked at the stars all night. It was one of the most insane things I've ever done. But I've, I, after that, I feel like I'd, I'd never seen the sky truly until I went out there.

• 1:54:06Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:54:06Speaker 00

  It was unrecognizable. Though, you, you couldn't pick out the Big Dipper or anything like that, because there were so many stars, it was a mess.

• 1:54:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Ain't that beautiful?

• 1:54:16Speaker 00

  It was so cool. It was the, I, I would recommend everyone alive, head out to Big Bend, look at the stars, do a little acid if you feel like it. Really think about fucking how insignificant you are. And my buddy, Tim Butterly, who's an amazing comedian, he's, he's in Austin from Philly, he's one of the Philly boys. He brought his telescope with him. He has this huge big telescope. And we, we searched, we were able to see Saturn. And you could see Saturn's rings like in detail through the telescope. And it truly was crazy.

• 1:54:42Joe Rogan?

  On acid.

• 1:54:42Speaker 00

  On acid, looking at Saturn and you're just going, what the fuck? Yeah, and it's quiet. It's quiet out there. Cause people are camping all around you, but it's quiet. So like you'll hear someone from not far, like just, in his tent, you know, in the middle of the night. Some guy whacking off in the tent.

• 1:55:00Joe Rogan?

  Whacking off in the tent is crazy. You could be out there staring at the stars on acid, but you're like, no, one more nut.

• 1:55:06Speaker 00

  I gotta get in there.

• 1:55:09Joe Rogan?

  Thinking about a great dating in high school.

• 1:55:12Speaker 00

  But we, yeah, but that was, that was, that's a cool place to go out there. It's not, it's like eight hours from here, but.

• 1:55:16Joe Rogan?

  We are denied that image. Cities in as great as they are, they fucked us. In that we, we have a disconnect with the universe now.

• 1:55:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:55:25Joe Rogan?

  You used to be able to, every night, you would see that in the sky.

• 1:55:28Speaker 00

  That would be what I would do for entertainment. If that was the sky in New Jersey, I would sit out my backyard.

• 1:55:33Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 1:55:34Speaker 00

  And I would stare at that shit all night.

• 1:55:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:37Speaker 00

  And you're, and at the, at the beginning of the night, Saturn's there. And then you think, I'll watch for another hour. And fi- five hours later, you're just staring as this thing rotates. And you can see the Milky Way, which I'd never seen before.

• 1:55:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:48Speaker 00

  There was like little clusters of shit that I'd never seen before. And you're just.

• 1:55:52Joe Rogan?

  And the reason why you can't see it is all just light pollution.

• 1:55:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:55:55Joe Rogan?

  There was a, a, a time when, um, we went out to the Big Island to, uh, with my family, to the Keck Observatory. And this is, I've been there three times.

• 1:56:06Speaker 00

  This is Hawaii?

• 1:56:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but I've only seen it really once. And, uh, the Big Island, you drive, you actually drive through the clouds. Like we, as we were driving up to the observatory, we're like, ah, fuck, it's cloudy out. We're not gonna see shit. This sucks. Let's just keep going. But then as you keep going up the mountain, you pop through the clouds.

• 1:56:23Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 1:56:23Joe Rogan?

  And then you get to this observatory and the sky is magnificent. I caught it one night where there was no moon out. And that's what you wanna do. Yeah, you want no moon. And the sky was just littered with stars.

• 1:56:35Speaker 00

  Crazy.

• 1:56:35Joe Rogan?

  It seemed like we were on an organic spaceship. That's what it seemed like. It did not seem like we were on Earth. It seemed like it was like a convertible spaceship and we're flying through the universe. It was incredible.

• 1:56:46Speaker 00

  And then you don't realize, then you go back to your city stars and you're like, this is.

• 1:56:50Joe Rogan?

  They're whack.

• 1:56:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's not, it's just not enough.

• 1:56:52Joe Rogan?

  Couple of dots.

• 1:56:53Speaker 00

  It's not enough.

• 1:56:54Joe Rogan?

  It's weird, that weird trade off. But it's like that weird trade off has allowed us to do so much. But yet it has disconnected us from just our place in the universe. It's very humbling. And I think that humbling thing is very important, people, just to put it all into perspective. To be able to see the stars and go, wow. Wow, what the fuck, man? And that's just all you can see. This is just one puny little galaxy.

• 1:57:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:20Joe Rogan?

  That's hundreds of billions of galaxies in an infinite universe.

• 1:57:26Speaker 00

  It, it can get a little, thinking about it, can get a little heavy.

• 1:57:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:57:30Speaker 00

  Cause then you kinda start to go, why do we care about anything?

• 1:57:33Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:57:34Speaker 00

  You know?

• 1:57:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's supposed to put it into perspective when you're looking at little tiny insignificant things that are freaking you out.

• 1:57:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:40Joe Rogan?

  You know, little weird things, like, oh, fucking the guy at work, he's gonna fuck me. I'm not gonna get that promotion. And you're all like, okay. This is a bigger picture. There is a way bigger picture than Safeway, where I work at, or whatever, you know?

• 1:57:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. Being upset that the next Netflix subscription's gone up or whatever, you're, you know, mad about.

• 1:57:59Joe Rogan?

  Whatever it is that's bothering you. These goddamn liberals ruining the country.

• 1:58:03Speaker 00

  Sure, exactly.

• 1:58:04Joe Rogan?

  Star.

• 1:58:05Speaker 00

  So we, we had a funny moment. We were all lying out at the, um, just decked out, looking at the stars and enjoying it. And we're quiet. Cause it's late at night, it's two o'clock in the morning and there's tents everywhere. It's quiet as shit. And Mike Rainey, who's a comedian, he does Dad Meat Podcast. He was like, ah, I'm going to bed, guys. I'm off the bed. He gets into his tent and it's quiet. And I'm staring there. And you're thinking about like all of the previous humans that have looked at the same stars and the same thing. And in the middle, just out of his tent, you just hear out of nowhere, just. Wow, wow, wow, wow. It's fun to stay at the what?

• 1:58:39Speaker 00

  And I mean, that echoed through to us. The what? And it just echoed through the fucking mountains. He had gotten into bed and whatever way he opened up his phone, but there was no signal. One of the last things on his timeline was the fucking YMCA song. Which is, when you excuse yourself from a bunch of boys, look at the stars and get into a tent. And then the loudest, most embarrassing, gayest song of all time goes bellowing. Like, there was people in other tents. We were crying laughing so hard, cause we were trying not to laugh, but there was other people, we could hear other people's tents start to laugh.

• 1:59:12Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 1:59:12Speaker 00

  Cause we laughed for twenty-five minutes, crying. And we're like, what the fuck, Mike? And he just, and he never said anything. He was too embarrassed. And I, yeah.

• 1:59:22Joe Rogan?

  Uh, that's hilarious.

• 1:59:24Speaker 00

  One of the most fun trips ever.

• 1:59:26Joe Rogan?

  That song, isn't it weird that that song became a part of Trump's campaign?

• 1:59:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:59:30Joe Rogan?

  How odd. Like, I went to the inauguration. And one of the weird things about the inauguration was that the Village People were performing at one of the afterparties. What's left of the Village People.

• 1:59:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, which one?

• 1:59:41Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, whatever the ones that left.

• 1:59:42Speaker 00

  What was he wearing?

• 1:59:43Joe Rogan?

  The thing is like, you could have a new cop, you could have a new, nobody knows who anybody is.

• 1:59:47Speaker 00

  Uh, there's some purists out there.

• 1:59:50Speaker 00

  There's a couple of, there's a couple of.

• 1:59:52Joe Rogan?

  Village people aficionados.

• 1:59:53Speaker 00

  You guys, I saw what, I, yeah, I saw the Village People. The real Village People. I saw them at their prime, yeah.

• 1:59:59Joe Rogan?

  Back in the seventies when they were all alive.

• 2:00:02Speaker 00

  Had some fucking gay orgy thing going on, yeah.

• 2:00:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's fun to stay.

• 2:00:06Speaker 00

  It became the anthem of, it's just a gay anthem, I guess.

• 2:00:09Joe Rogan?

  But it also became the anthem of the Trump administration. Like he would go out there and do a little dancing. Like, what?

• 2:00:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 2:00:17Joe Rogan?

  Young man. It's very weird, right?

• 2:00:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. But see, see his, um, Nicki Minaj's ass thing going on now?

• 2:00:25Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:00:25Speaker 00

  So Nicki Minaj is like a big Trump girl.

• 2:00:28Joe Rogan?

  Which is so odd.

• 2:00:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:30Joe Rogan?

  What do you think that's all about?

• 2:00:32Speaker 00

  Needs to sell CDs or something? I don't know.

• 2:00:37Speaker 00

  Like, I don't get it. Why, why the fuck would Nicki Minaj? Also, I'd be embarrassed to bring her out. And go, hey, look at this fucking, remember Nicki Minaj, who used to rap about having a fat ass ten years ago? She thinks I'm cool. That's like a bizarre fucking, it's like embarrassing.

• 2:00:51Joe Rogan?

  If you're a fan of his, he'll take you in.

• 2:00:54Speaker 00

  But he brought her out and he's like, Nicki Minaj is great. She goes, he goes, she got a great ass?

• 2:00:58Joe Rogan?

  He said that?

• 2:00:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, he goes, can't miss that ass. He goes, show them, show them, Nicki. And Nicki got up and did a little, Nicki did a little fucking spin for the crowd.

• 2:01:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 2:01:07Speaker 00

  Chup, chup, chup.

• 2:01:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 2:01:09Speaker 00

  He might be going for the third term with Nicki's ass, fucking vice president.

• 2:01:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's people that think there's some sort of a loophole. Bro, I gotta piss. Let's, let's come back.

• 2:01:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay, great.

• 2:01:20Joe Rogan?

  We're back.

• 2:01:20Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 2:01:21Joe Rogan?

  And we're back. Where were we? YMCA.

• 2:01:24Speaker 00

  Wow, wow, wow, wow.

• 2:01:26Joe Rogan?

  His ass. Let me see that. Can we see the video?

• 2:01:28Speaker 00

  Pull up Nicki's ass there.

• 2:01:30Joe Rogan?

  Did you see the breakup letter he wrote to Bill Maher?

• 2:01:32Speaker 00

  No. Trump did? Trump penned a letter?

• 2:01:37Joe Rogan?

  It's a breakup letter. It's like, uh, a girl who got dumped. Who's like, fuck him and he's always a loser. And like that kinda thing. He's really crazy.

• 2:01:45Speaker 00

  But Bill Maher was like anti-Trump. And then he fucking had dinner with him and then he's like.

• 2:01:49Joe Rogan?

  A couple of times.

• 2:01:50Speaker 00

  Great guy.

• 2:01:50Joe Rogan?

  And had dinner with him recently. And then went on his show. And I guess he said some things about how Trump is losing support in the polls or whatever it was. And Trump wrote this long fucking screed, this scroll that he put on Truth Social. About, uh, Bill Maher's a fucking loser. And he was like, he was drunk at the White House. He needed a drink.

• 2:02:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's just, he, he, he is a gift that does not stop giving, even if you don't want the gift, you know?

• 2:02:23Speaker 02

  There seems to be two things. This doesn't have her in it, but this is definitely a quote he said about her.

• 2:02:28Joe Rogan?

  Is it? I'm studying him and then I made the mistake. I told Infon. I said, I looked at his ass. And I've never done that with a man before. It's true.

• 2:02:42Joe Rogan?

  Off the record, women, yes. Men, no. Okay?

• 2:02:50Joe Rogan?

  By the way, I looked at one hell of a beautiful ass before, Nicki Minaj.

• 2:02:57Joe Rogan?

  That is so crazy. That's hard to miss.

• 2:03:03Joe Rogan?

  That's stand-up. That's hard to miss.

• 2:03:08Speaker 00

  It's hard to miss.

• 2:03:09Joe Rogan?

  Is she showing her ass to everybody?

• 2:03:11Speaker 02

  Oh, she must be.

• 2:03:11Speaker 00

  She's twerking or something over there.

• 2:03:13Speaker 02

  It's off-camera.

• 2:03:16Speaker 00

  That anaconda don't-

• 2:03:17Joe Rogan?

  Okay, I'm gonna get back to my story, Nicki. I hope Nicki wasn't insulted, but we love Nicki.

• 2:03:22Speaker 00

  Love Nicki, that's-

• 2:03:24Joe Rogan?

  So crazy.

• 2:03:26Speaker 00

  It's crazy that politicians used to be so straight-laced, like organized.

• 2:03:31Joe Rogan?

  He's staring at her ass.

• 2:03:32Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:03:33Joe Rogan?

  She's up there talking.

• 2:03:34Speaker 00

  In her custom fucking Louis Vuitton.

• 2:03:39Joe Rogan?

  The crazy thing is, all politicians swear now.

• 2:03:42Speaker 00

  Do they?

• 2:03:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they swear. That was unheard of. You never heard a president swear, but now they all swear. It's super common.

• 2:03:51Speaker 00

  I don't like it. I like the idea of having a politician who's fucking-

• 2:03:54Joe Rogan?

  Full of shit?

• 2:03:55Speaker 00

  Kinda straight, yeah.

• 2:03:56Joe Rogan?

  Full of shit?

• 2:03:57Speaker 00

  Full of shit, I guess.

• 2:03:57Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't talk like a real human.

• 2:03:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you kinda like that, kinda. I think the guy in charge should be a little bit fucking-

• 2:04:03Joe Rogan?

  Reserved?

• 2:04:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. I don't want them fucking-

• 2:04:05Joe Rogan?

  Under control.

• 2:04:06Speaker 00

  Writing letters to Bill Maher.

• 2:04:08Joe Rogan?

  See, pull up the letter to Bill Maher. It's crazy. Wait till you read it. It's so long.

• 2:04:14Speaker 00

  The only files released are the fucking letters.

• 2:04:17Joe Rogan?

  I don't even think what Bill Maher said was that bad. I think the thing that got him was saying that Trump lost all of his support with the Republican Party.

• 2:04:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:04:29Joe Rogan?

  And then he pulls up some-

• 2:04:30Speaker 00

  He's lost a lot.

• 2:04:32Joe Rogan?

  Not according to him. According to him, there's a CNN poll that says like 98% of Republicans-

• 2:04:38Speaker 00

  That's part of his magic, though.

• 2:04:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You can find a poll. Here it is.

• 2:04:41Speaker 00

  The polls are fake news.

• 2:04:42Joe Rogan?

  Let's talk about this complete and total loser, all caps, Bill Maher. Let's talk about him. He got a low-rated show on equally low-rated HBO, which was once, long ago, a network of quality and excitement. But that's all gone. It's not hot, all caps, anymore, exclamation point. Maher's friend and business associate Chuck Labella was also a friend of mine, worked on the top-hit show The Apprentice as a gopher, and because of the success of that show, number one and top-rated on many weeks, with the finale being among the top shows of the year, he was automatically and quickly brought up through the ranks of NBC,

• 2:05:21Joe Rogan?

  along with everyone else associated with the historic "happening," in quotes, rather. I don't know why "happening" is in quotes. The success of The Apprentice was so great that everyone partook. It built many careers, and that is a wonderful thing. Some people, boy, this is wordy. Some people say it even built my career, because I became president. I would have won without it, exclamation point. In any event, over the last few years, Labella would call me nonstop and say hello, be very nice, and tell me how much Bill Maher loves and respects me, and would constantly ask of me, even before I was president, for any form of meeting with Maher, and would I do his show. When I became president, I agreed to meet after the first one

• 2:06:03Joe Rogan?

  and the last one, but never agreed to do his show, which he wants me to do desperately, all caps. It won't happen, exclamation point. When I've watched the show, which isn't often, it always ends with dishonesty about me, at least, but who cares? He doesn't think it was a good thing to take the nuclear weapon away from Iran, which shows you he's not very smart.

• 2:06:27Joe Rogan?

  If I allowed them to obtain a nuclear weapon, the world would be a different place right now, exclamation point. Using fake polls, I like how he like capitalizes "fake" and "polls." He also said I had my lowest ratings so far. Even the Republican Party doesn't like him, in quotes. But that's not true. I have high ratings, and more importantly, he said that I'm losing the support and approval of the Republican Party, when in fact CNN just came out with a poll showing them I'm at 98 and 99% support within the Republican Party, and all-time record high. All capitalizes "all," capitalizes the "T" in "time," the "R" in "record," and the "H" in "high,"

• 2:07:11Joe Rogan?

  which I understand. Ronald Reagan was at 86%. CNN's Harry Enton also said I am the most influential president of the last century. Is this after the Ellison's bought CNN?

• 2:07:27Speaker 02

  Also on HBO, which is confusing why he's talking shit, but I guess.

• 2:07:30Speaker 00

  I mean, he has a lot of time on his hands.

• 2:07:33Joe Rogan?

  CNN did another poll, the most popular person in the history of the Republican Party, and I won that too, with me being at 53%, Ronald Reagan being at 18%, and Abraham Lincoln being at 8%. This is crazy. These CNN polls, people not exactly in love with me, so Bill Maher lied, but he lies about everything, and I believe he lied to me when I asked him, with all the applause and laughter he gets after almost everything he says about things that aren't funny or even good, what laughter machine does he use? Laughter and machine, have capital "L" and a capital "M." People can't think he's funny.

• 2:08:11Speaker 00

  You know what? He might be right about that, though, because-

• 2:08:12Joe Rogan?

  You think there's a laugh track?

• 2:08:14Speaker 00

  It's not funny. I know that.

• 2:08:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but people like love it, and they're there live, and they get enthusiastic.

• 2:08:21Speaker 00

  It's the rhythm.

• 2:08:22Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever been to a live taping?

• 2:08:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:23Joe Rogan?

  Live taping the show, they have like a person that does this thing, it says applause, and they have like a producer with a headset on, it's like applause, applause, applause. Okay, laughter machine, about things that aren't funny or even good, what laughter machine does he use? I don't know Bill, he didn't know me, and that was okay. I didn't know Bill, he didn't know me, and that was okay. Then Chuck Labella and my friend Kid Rock called me incessantly about meeting with Bill Maher. My first response was, "Fellas, this guy's a goofball." They said, "He wants to go down to the White House, be with you and talk. He said you're smart, but you're not into the liberal platform. Will you start thinking about it?"

• 2:09:03Joe Rogan?

  He invited himself to the White House, exclamation point. We had our first meeting. Bill was very nervous. He asked for a drink. He was very insecure, and he had a seriously bruised eye and nose area, as though somebody had just beaten him up, but it wasn't me.

• 2:09:19Joe Rogan?

  What? No sooner had we had that first dinner at the White House, which is a very seductive and beautiful place, especially now that I've fully renovated and fixed it in the style which it deserves.

• 2:09:29Speaker 00

  Thank God.

• 2:09:30Joe Rogan?

  Bill wanted to come back.

• 2:09:33Joe Rogan?

  The gopher called me many times, multiple times, saying how much he loves me, and that he respects me more than anybody, and he wants to come back for a second meeting. After 10 calls from Chuck Labella, it seemed that these guys were serious and wanted to learn more, because their policies are so bad, it's ridiculous, exclamation point. Also, I wanted to tell Bill that he's a major pothead, all caps. He's gotta stop. It's very bad for his health.

• 2:10:02Speaker 00

  He's spiraling.

• 2:10:03Joe Rogan?

  This is a guy that's eating McDonald's all day.

• 2:10:05Speaker 00

  He's walking around the room saying this to someone, typing it out.

• 2:10:08Joe Rogan?

  Yes, 100%.

• 2:10:08Speaker 00

  And he's just looking around. Another thing!

• 2:10:10Joe Rogan?

  He looked like hell this time. Bill was drunk and had alcohol in his hand as he walked through the White House. Stephen A. Smith and Kid Rock came along with him. Overall, I thought it was a good meeting. It didn't last four hours, it lasted two hours, maybe less, and everybody was happy. We have the timestamps. I learned nothing and felt it was a waste of time. After the first dinner, Bill Maher was friendly, I guess everyone walked away pleased. He gave me a good first show with a lot of laughing machine laughter, and laughing machine, and laughing and machine, the "L" and "M" are capitalized, which is a real term, but it is what it is, and then he reverted back to his former self and his old ways.

• 2:10:52Joe Rogan?

  I understand that. He's doing his thing. I never took it personally. I'd always mock his low ratings whenever I heard. He's not a nice guy, and what he spouts isn't what he believes. He has to cater to his base, which is mostly composed of losers. There's a capital "L" in losers, and people who don't like working.

• 2:11:12Joe Rogan?

  It's why for so long I didn't get another call from Chuck Labella, and I didn't miss him one bit. After the second dinner, Bill's show, in quotes, was far worse than the first. He went crazy, exclamation point. He's gutless, because he enjoyed every minute. Also, I am not building a swimming pool in the White House briefing room, and never had any intention of doing so. I am thinking about moving the press and putting them in a different location, but I will use that location for very badly needed space. Bill also attacked our great Republican candidates, when he knows my endorsement record is 98% in the House and 100% in the Senate, so how can he make a false statement like this?

• 2:11:51Joe Rogan?

  These statistics are facts, all caps, and he should speak about them, but he won't, because he's very unfair, exclamation point. Caroline Levitt was great. This is so wordy on the show, but he started with a biased, dumb, sleaze-bag, all caps, asking questions. She defended me and herself so well, but couldn't be comfortable going against lie after lie, capital "L" in lies. Importantly, Bill lied about all the illegal voters in the radical-controlled, decrepit, and devastated state of California. Just in the last few days alone, they found 20,000, and the number could easily go to over 1 million.

• 2:12:32Joe Rogan?

  There are so many falsehoods Bill spewed, but I won't waste time in fact-checking, all caps, him. He isn't worth it. Bill, don't call me anymore. It's useless, and tell Chuck Labella not to call so much, and say how much you love Trump, all caps, in quotes, and want to get together, because you're a hopeless guy who is just trying to cater to your small group of fans, in quotes. You're also a coward who is afraid to tell the truth about how well our country is running because of your few fans, in quotes, and how badly the Democrats have done, almost destroying the USA. If I hadn't won the election, it would be dead, all caps. Also, turn your laughing machine off.

• 2:13:16Speaker 00

  Brings a bad-

• 2:13:17Joe Rogan?

  It's a joke when they laugh uncontrollably, even when you said nothing funny, and I'm going to have the Republicans not cover you anymore, because they try to talk about you as a guy who is transformative. You're not transformative. You're a loser, capital "L" in loser. I never watched your show much, but I will never watch it again, because it's nothing more than fake news, all caps, that America and the world is unfortunately subjected to. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. It has 4.64,000 retruths.

• 2:13:52Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 2:13:53Joe Rogan?

  At the time, I'm sure more now.

• 2:13:54Speaker 00

  Sure. There's gotta be just questions about how much time he had.

• 2:14:00Joe Rogan?

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• 2:16:26Speaker 00

  To write that. It's such a minor thing, and everyone's goes, but I think the people around him probably just go, he'll be distracted for a couple of hours. Let him go, let him work on his little blog. Let him go work on his little blog, and we'll try to correct the decisions he made earlier today.

• 2:16:42Joe Rogan?

  I think he gets very upset when people talk about the polls.

• 2:16:47Speaker 02

  Do you think the person writing it knows what to capitalize?

• 2:16:50Speaker 00

  I think he says it.

• 2:16:52Speaker 02

  Has to go back through and be like, capitalize that, capitalize that.

• 2:16:54Joe Rogan?

  Capitalize the yellow lies.

• 2:16:56Speaker 02

  Nope, you didn't get losers right.

• 2:16:57Joe Rogan?

  Capitalize losers.

• 2:16:59Speaker 00

  He gets to the end, did I mention the laughter track yet?

• 2:17:01Joe Rogan?

  Put fans in quotes.

• 2:17:02Speaker 00

  Maybe they didn't.

• 2:17:03Joe Rogan?

  The laugh machine.

• 2:17:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:05Joe Rogan?

  I just don't know why. I mean, that's not something I would ever do. I don't understand.

• 2:17:11Speaker 00

  He balances his time.

• 2:17:13Joe Rogan?

  Oddly.

• 2:17:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, how mu- he must have a lot of time, because hasn't his net worth quadrupled in the last two years?

• 2:17:22Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's definitely gone up with the coin, right? The Trump coin? That was a big one.

• 2:17:26Speaker 00

  But I think across the board, his money's gone up. So he must have a lot of time to be president and also become 5X's billions.

• 2:17:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, I would imagine he has people doing that, too, right?

• 2:17:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:38Joe Rogan?

  And that's probably why some of it is.

• 2:17:40Speaker 00

  That's the best thing about America is that a lot of countries would probably have a sort that the most powerful man couldn't grow that much in wealth.

• 2:17:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, it should be the case with the entire government, that they shouldn't be able to profit off of it. His net worth has increased to an estimated $2.7 billion to $4.1 billion since winning the 2024 presidential election, bringing his total net worth to roughly $6.4 billion. That's a lie. It's more than that. See, I don't know what that is, how much of it is stuff that I would disagree with, right? So the meme coin's crazy. The meme coin.

• 2:18:18Speaker 00

  It was like a pump-a-dump essentially, wasn't it?

• 2:18:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, they all are. Hunter Biden just did one of those.

• 2:18:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:24Joe Rogan?

  They all do it. I mean, if you're gonna put out a fucking meme coin, I mean, they're almost all pump-a-dumps. And even if they're not, whoever's putting money into it, they're pumping it up with the idea that it's gonna hit a peak, and they gotta know when to bail.

• 2:18:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:40Joe Rogan?

  It's like, everyone's doing that. It's a Ponzi scheme.

• 2:18:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:43Speaker 00

  And the president did it, and...

• 2:18:45Joe Rogan?

  It's also, I think, it's a way to launder money. So like...

• 2:18:51Speaker 00

  Is that better or worse?

• 2:18:52Joe Rogan?

  So this is one of the things that Hunter Biden was accused of with his artwork. And so he was selling his, and I use artwork in quotes, like Trump would use it. His artwork was selling for like a half a million dollars for a painting. And you look at the painting, like, what the fuck is that?

• 2:19:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:07Joe Rogan?

  This is, who the fuck is paying a half a million dollars for this? If you wanted to give someone money, but you couldn't just legally give them money, what you could do was say, why don't you draw a picture?

• 2:19:19Speaker 00

  Draw me a piece of shit.

• 2:19:20Joe Rogan?

  And I'll buy that picture. And that's all you have to do.

• 2:19:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:24Joe Rogan?

  And it's the same thing with a meme coin. So let's say we're gonna do a Colin coin, right?

• 2:19:30Speaker 00

  Let's do it. Let's launch it.

• 2:19:31Joe Rogan?

  Let's do it. We're gonna launch it right.

• 2:19:33Speaker 00

  That's unofficial, by the way.

• 2:19:33Joe Rogan?

  Someone will probably do it. They'll probably do it. There's millions of those things.

• 2:19:37Speaker 00

  Well, you know, I have to go buy it now.

• 2:19:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there you go. Buy Colin coin. So if you wanted to do that, the way those coins work is there's an initial investment that goes in. So you get a bunch of people to invest actual, real money in this coin, right? And then there's a bunch of people buy into the coin, so they buy the coin.

• 2:19:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:55Joe Rogan?

  So if you're a person that, like, if I wanted to bribe you, right, and I said, listen, what we're gonna do is we're gonna start this meme coin, and my country is gonna put in $300 million into this meme coin, and this country's gonna put in X, that's gonna put in, and then, you know, once it gets to a certain level where we'll pull out, you're gonna be worth billions. And then you say yes to that, and whether you're Hunter Biden or whether you're Trump, or a wide variety of people have done these things. The Hauktua lady did it, right? She had one. And I think she legitimately, I think, was unsophisticated and didn't really know what was going on. They rugpulled her.

• 2:20:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:20:36Joe Rogan?

  But I think, I don't know. I'm just being nice.

• 2:20:39Speaker 00

  You're being nice by calling her a stupid idiot.

• 2:20:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, a young kid. She's fucking 20 years old.

• 2:20:44Speaker 00

  I get it. I also, I think so. I actually agree.

• 2:20:46Joe Rogan?

  I would have been completely retarded if that happened to me.

• 2:20:48Speaker 00

  She's not around anymore, so that's kind of...

• 2:20:49Joe Rogan?

  She is around.

• 2:20:50Speaker 00

  Is she?

• 2:20:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:50Speaker 00

  I thought she went back to working in fucking Wendy's or whatever.

• 2:20:54Joe Rogan?

  She's on Instagram.

• 2:20:54Speaker 00

  Is she?

• 2:20:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she's still out there.

• 2:20:56Speaker 00

  She's still, she's still spitting on that thing?

• 2:20:57Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 2:20:58Speaker 00

  She don't spit like she used to, now that she's rich?

• 2:21:00Joe Rogan?

  Silk sheets and the whole deal.

• 2:21:02Speaker 00

  Nah, these bitches get rich and they stop spitting.

• 2:21:04Joe Rogan?

  They stop spitting. More sophisticated now.

• 2:21:07Speaker 00

  Big shit, you know?

• 2:21:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you got caviar in your teeth. But the point is, you could put a bunch of money into a meme coin. That person gets the meme coins and then pulls that money out, and then that's legal. You see what I'm saying?

• 2:21:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:21Joe Rogan?

  And so that's a way to give someone money.

• 2:21:23Speaker 00

  It's all legal, and we all just kind of tolerate it, I guess.

• 2:21:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's weird. The whole meme coin market is weird. Like, who's running out the door to put all their life savings into the Melania coin?

• 2:21:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:37Joe Rogan?

  It's an odd, it's an odd thing.

• 2:21:39Speaker 00

  The guys who know. That's us.

• 2:21:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. The guys who know, there's a way. Somebody made money. Some people made money. And clearly, he made money. Like, what does it say Trump made his money from? Cryptocurrency.

• 2:21:53Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 2:21:54Joe Rogan?

  Fake money.

• 2:21:55Speaker 00

  Why can't you, why can't you be president and earn $2 billion on the side? A little passive income?

• 2:22:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, the weird thing is...

• 2:22:02Speaker 00

  Why can't you?

• 2:22:03Joe Rogan?

  It's legal. This is the thing. So he's done nothing wrong in terms of the eye of the law. This is the fact. And he is a businessman.

• 2:22:11Speaker 00

  In the eye of society, we kind of understand that this is a kind of a conflict of interests, right?

• 2:22:15Joe Rogan?

  For sure, not, not something that looks good to the average person, that this guy's making billions of dollars from being in. The idea, what we would hope, this is the thing, that the goal that we would strive for is to have someone who's a president, and what they really want only is for the good of the American people.

• 2:22:36Speaker 00

  That person would be shot early on. Sorry. That's not what this is. Sorry.

• 2:22:40Joe Rogan?

  They don't want that person to be making billions while they're in office.

• 2:22:43Speaker 00

  But also, that person will run on honesty. They'll lose an election, and then next election, they'll lie through their fucking teeth, because they go, I lost it on honesty before, now I'm corrupt. You'll get voted out. If you turn around and go, hey, everything sucks, and it's gonna suck for a long time.

• 2:22:58Speaker 02

  There's interesting stuff that I've just found out here.

• 2:23:02Joe Rogan?

  It says, Trump making money from crypto is not automatically illegal, even while president, yeah. But particular details could be unlawful if they involve bribery or prohibited benefits from foreign government.

• 2:23:15Speaker 00

  All right. He lives in that space, though, where is it illegal?

• 2:23:18Joe Rogan?

  Right. So it's now a concrete legal challenge. October 22nd, 2026, federal civil lawsuit alleges that Trump unlawfully benefited from two UAE-linked World Liberty Financial transactions, a $500 million purchase of 49% stake by an entity backed by UAE National Security Advisor Sheikh Taknun bin Zayed al-Nahang. How do you say that? Nah?

• 2:23:46Speaker 00

  I couldn't even guess.

• 2:23:48Joe Rogan?

  Uh, $2 billion purchase of World Liberty USD1 stablecoin by an Abu Dhabi investment fund chaired by Taknun. The transaction amount is not the same as Trump's personal profit. Lawsuit alleges unconstitutional foreign...

• 2:24:07Speaker 02

  Emoluments.

• 2:24:07Joe Rogan?

  Emoluments? Emoluments? Emoluments. And seeks discourse, disclosure, rather, in return of allegedly unlawful profits. So what is, it's unlawful that the Abu Dhabi Sheikh put bought into it? Is that what's unlawful?

• 2:24:27Speaker 02

  I believe so. Foreign entity.

• 2:24:34Speaker 00

  You know, I'm just gonna stick to stand up.

• 2:24:36Joe Rogan?

  Including main financial conflict provision. That means a financial interest that would require an extraordinary executive branch official to step aside does not automatically create the same statutory violation for the president. That exemption is written into law. It isn't unique to Trump. But it's not a blanket exemption from anti-corruption law or the constitution. Okay. Look, the whole fucking crypto world is weird. They tried to get us to do a crypto coin. They're the contact.

• 2:25:02Speaker 00

  Jokon?

• 2:25:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what they were, a JRE coin or something like that. Fuck off. Like, what are you talking about? That's not real money. Like, what are we doing here? But it's a loophole. It's a loophole and this, this is, this is the thing. Like, if it's legal, like, would, if you can do it and you're a businessman, you're a guy who like, that's your whole thing. Make, make, make as much money as possible.

• 2:25:23Speaker 00

  Make money, yeah.

• 2:25:23Joe Rogan?

  It's clearly a big part of his whole thing is to make a ton of money. And you can make the money. And he's like, I'm still doing great for the country.

• 2:25:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:25:31Joe Rogan?

  Get a little for myself on the side.

• 2:25:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:25:34Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 2:25:34Speaker 00

  I think we've had our fill of Trump, though. Trump was a lot of fun. And now it's kind of just, it's, it's, my whole time living here has been pretty much just dominated by Trump. And I feel like it's like, things need to.

• 2:25:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think.

• 2:25:45Speaker 00

  Mix things up a little.

• 2:25:47Joe Rogan?

  Things like that letter to Bill Maher are not the best. Like, that's, that's not a good look.

• 2:25:53Speaker 00

  One of the worst things he's ever done.

• 2:25:56Speaker 00

  That's the worst thing I've, I've seen, you know? I got out of it, though. I got sucked in, remember with the Iran fucking war invasion or whatever way you wanna call it? And I was like, listening to fucking just too much like Frentes and Dave Smith all day. And I'm, I just had to kind of just turn my phone off one day. Went fucking out into the woods and stuff.

• 2:26:14Joe Rogan?

  But then there's two arguments, right? If you turn, turn your phone off and don't pay attention, then all the craziness just keeps going on. And your life eventually gets affected by it, because they start bombing us.

• 2:26:23Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 2:26:24Joe Rogan?

  Like, you know, that maybe it's better to pay attention and to just keep your eye on whatever the fuck is boiling in DC.

• 2:26:30Speaker 00

  When does bombs dropping? I'll fucking put on a little Frentes and find out what's going on.

• 2:26:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, a lot of people are worried that after the midterms, so when the midterms are over, that that's when they're gonna start doing more shit in Iran.

• 2:26:42Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:26:43Joe Rogan?

  But this isn't done yet.

• 2:26:44Speaker 00

  Have I drank all that on you?

• 2:26:45Joe Rogan?

  No, no, bro. Um, but there's a lot of people that believe that.

• 2:26:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:26:51Joe Rogan?

  It's all gonna start popping off again in Iran. Cause it's like, it's not resolved.

• 2:26:55Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:26:56Joe Rogan?

  I mean, they have to have people.

• 2:26:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, real blunder, real disaster with the situation. It doesn't look good. It's actually kind of, kind of pathetic, actually, honestly, on a world scale. Doesn't look good for America to not be able to just wipe out fucking country.

• 2:27:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's not just that. It just doesn't seem like it was something that was, it's, it, every other president was, they attempt to talk them into doing this.

• 2:27:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:19Joe Rogan?

  They tried to talk Obama into doing it. They tried to talk Biden into doing it. Nobody did it.

• 2:27:23Speaker 00

  Who's there?

• 2:27:24Joe Rogan?

  Whoever wants us to bomb Iran that might live in Israel.

• 2:27:29Speaker 00

  Not saying anything. Could be, could be them, it could have been the Swedes. It could be anyone.

• 2:27:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, it could have been the Russians.

• 2:27:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:36Joe Rogan?

  That's all, that's the fun one. They always like to blame everything on the Russians.

• 2:27:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so, um, you know, like, this, the thing that disappoints everybody who supported Trump before he got into office was one of his big things that everybody agreed with was no more war.

• 2:27:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:52Joe Rogan?

  Like, please, that sounds great. No more war.

• 2:27:55Speaker 00

  That'd be great.

• 2:27:55Joe Rogan?

  Because we keep thinking, like, why are we involved in these unnecessary wars? Because we always assume there's so much money involved in politics, because the military industrial complex has a huge amount of cash. They influence politicians, they influence policy. They need more war so they could sell more weapons.

• 2:28:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, it's like, that's like, this is the feeling of exhaustion where it's like, I'm gonna turn this off. I'm gonna go to Alaska. I'm gonna see some fucking bears. I'm going, I'm doing the weekend of shows in Anchorage and I'm hoping to go to, uh, Katmai National Park. Do you know it? Where the bears like catch the salmon coming out of the fucking.

• 2:28:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:28:31Speaker 00

  I'm going in September, so like, it's a little different, but.

• 2:28:34Joe Rogan?

  Is it past the salmon run by then?

• 2:28:36Speaker 00

  It's over, so they, they, they go to a different section. They're not jumping out and they're catching them out, but they still catch the salmon out of different sections. So I'm hoping to go out there and camp overnight. But they, you camp in a, in like a fenced off electric, uh, gate type of thing. But you camp out there. Have you ever been over there to do any of that?

• 2:28:52Joe Rogan?

  I've been to Anchorage. Ari and I went over there and we went salmon fishing. Yeah, we went salmon, we, we had a two day thing. Look at that, that's nuts.

• 2:29:00Speaker 00

  So I got a, I got a trip. I'm doing a bunch of shows, uh, columtyrrell.com for all my tickets. Oh, check out the special, by the way. Sorry, just to interrupt. But a new special right now on YouTube called Bells and Whistles. Please check it out. Leave a comment if you like. Anyway, back to the grizzly bears. Yeah, this is what I'm gonna go do and take photos of bears. Um, but it's like, it, it, there's a limited amount of spaces. So they have like cabins, but the cabins are like $700 a night or something. Or you can camp, sit in a tent with the bears for $12 a night. And I'll go, I'll, I'll do that.

• 2:29:30Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's the more authentic experience. You don't wanna be behind a door.

• 2:29:34Speaker 00

  But these bears are so well fed that they, they have no interest in you.

• 2:29:37Joe Rogan?

  Right, yeah.

• 2:29:38Speaker 00

  I just watched a thing about the lions in fucking, is it Botswana? Do you know the guy on Instagram, Grizzly Guy? Or Grizzly Guy? And he has this, he does these shows, I think they're called Endless Venture. Yeah, and he goes all over the world. He just, he just did a thing in, in, um, the, the tundra up in fucking Alaska where it was like 24 hours sunlight. And they went looking for grizzly bears or sort of polar bears. Real fascinating stuff. But they went on a trip to Botswana and the lions there are so well fed that the lions won't attack you as a human. So they had this cool, yeah, this, this guy's fucking awesome. I love this fella.

• 2:30:15Joe Rogan?

  Um. Wow, he's just hanging out with lions.

• 2:30:19Speaker 00

  And they'll, so they'll sit down and they get into a decent, like, non-threatening position and they put out like a call, like an injured something. And then this pack of, and you see the lions just slowly spread out and they all follow the main fucking leader. And then they, he gets right up to them and then they see them and they stare at each other and everyone's quiet. And they stare for like five minutes and then the lion goes, and just sort of plops down. And they're just sitting there surrounded by a pride of fucking lions. In the middle of, uh, this delta, whatever it's called, the Oak, Oak or something delta. Where, like, it's one of the wildest, that's, and they sleep at night. They camp and they have to keep the fire on all night so that elephants don't trample them in the thing. So like, someone's job is to wake up every hour to keep the lion, the elephants away. That's what I wanna do.

• 2:31:02Joe Rogan?

  And you just hear them in the middle of the night.

• 2:31:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, and you could probably feel him walking around.

• 2:31:10Joe Rogan?

  That's a mountain lion.

• 2:31:11Speaker 00

  I'm just showing you, I got one. This is the guy, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:31:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so he's done, does a bunch of stuff like this? Yeah, I think he was on my friend Cam Haynes's show.

• 2:31:18Speaker 00

  He's cool. I wanna, I'd love, I'd love to fucking do something with him someday. This is, like, they went out to.

• 2:31:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, I'll bet he'll reach out. You can go do something.

• 2:31:27Speaker 00

  Please reach out and bring me to somewhere really scary.

• 2:31:30Joe Rogan?

  That's really what you like to do, huh?

• 2:31:32Speaker 00

  That's, that's all I wanna do.

• 2:31:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 2:31:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know why, I'm just obsessed with it right now. Getting out there and seeing animals.

• 2:31:39Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's very exciting.

• 2:31:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think I got into it through birds. I got into, started getting into birds, birding.

• 2:31:44Joe Rogan?

  Birding?

• 2:31:45Speaker 00

  Birding is the most fun thing.

• 2:31:47Joe Rogan?

  So you're one of those guys that buys the binoculars and stares at the trees?

• 2:31:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:51Joe Rogan?

  We always make fun of those guys.

• 2:31:52Speaker 00

  I'm really bad. Hon, I get it too. It's kind of a little gay.

• 2:31:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's two groups of guys who buy high-end binoculars.

• 2:31:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32:00Joe Rogan?

  And the biggest market is actually birders. The second biggest market is hunters.

• 2:32:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, I, there's a lot of kind of similarities between, I guess, just tracking a bird to shoot it with a camera or, and tracking an animal to shoot it with a gun. There's a lot of knowledge you have to learn, the calls, the fucking, the wind directions and things like that. I don't think that's, that's true with birds, but certainly if you wanna take a photo of like an animal. You gotta, you gotta do the same thing.

• 2:32:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, just seeing them in their natural habitat is very exciting. Especially it's a rare bird.

• 2:32:33Speaker 00

  The thing about the birds are everywhere. That's why, I think most people would rather be into more mammals running around, but just known around. So, but the birds are in your fucking garden. And it's cool to look out and go, I recognize that bird or I recognize a call.

• 2:32:47Joe Rogan?

  My friend Tommy has this, uh, bird feeder and it's hooked up to a camera that has AI.

• 2:32:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32:53Joe Rogan?

  And so the AI camera takes a photo of the birds when they show up and then tells him, sends it to his phone. Tells him what kind of bird it is.

• 2:33:01Speaker 00

  I got him.

• 2:33:02Joe Rogan?

  You got that?

• 2:33:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, of course. You kidding me? What, which ones he got? The problem is you get too many alerts, though. Cause like, it's a bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.

• 2:33:09Joe Rogan?

  And where do you have your camera set up? In New York City?

• 2:33:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, in, in New Jersey.

• 2:33:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:33:13Speaker 00

  At my in-laws' house, cause they live out closer to the woods. I set it up there and you, and I remember like, I remember seeing one day, like accidentally a hummingbird landed on the water. Cause a hummingbird shouldn't have been there, but I got it and I was able to write it on my list of all the birds that I've seen.

• 2:33:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you make a list?

• 2:33:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm a little fucking retarded, you know? But from there, that, I just sort of wanted to take an interest in what I'm hearing.

• 2:33:34Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:33:35Speaker 00

  When I'm sitting around reading a book or whatever.

• 2:33:37Joe Rogan?

  Tweet, tweet, tweet.

• 2:33:38Speaker 00

  What, what is that and why is that? And what are they saying? And then once you start to do that, I started getting more into animals and now I'm just hiking and camping and fucking.

• 2:33:46Joe Rogan?

  One of the things you'll see when you go to Alaska is eagles. Those are, they're like pigeons up there. It's crazy. They're everywhere.

• 2:33:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, the eagles are fucking cool. We saw some eagles in Montana when we were fishing, just big fucking guys.

• 2:33:58Joe Rogan?

  Wild.

• 2:33:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, and they could fly around. I got these amazing videos of fucking these huge birds flying around.

• 2:34:04Joe Rogan?

  Snatching fish right out of the water and flying off of the.

• 2:34:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's like the most enjoyable thing you can ever do is witness that.

• 2:34:10Joe Rogan?

  That's so interesting that you're so into nature.

• 2:34:13Speaker 00

  That's all I wanna do is just kind of go, turn my phone off and go fucking hiking and maybe if I'm lucky, ever see a mountain lion somehow. I reckon if you see a mountain lion, it might be too late, but, you know.

• 2:34:23Joe Rogan?

  I've seen a few.

• 2:34:23Speaker 00

  You've seen them?

• 2:34:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:34:24Speaker 00

  In California?

• 2:34:25Joe Rogan?

  I saw one of them in California. It was in, uh, Santa Barbara, actually. We were in Montecito and we were driving down the street and I saw this thing running across the road. I said, oh, is it a coyote? And I saw the tail. See that wavy, oh, like, oh shit, that's a cat. And you realize, oh my God, it's a mountain lion. We just saw a mountain lion run across the street in a really nice residential community. Like, Montecito's gorgeous.

• 2:34:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:49Joe Rogan?

  Like beautiful old homes and mountain lions.

• 2:34:51Speaker 00

  I wonder how close they get? Cause I always think about when we were camping, like, cause there's definitely mountain lions in that region of Big Bend, but they, but.

• 2:34:57Joe Rogan?

  Generally, they avoid people.

• 2:34:59Speaker 00

  But I wonder how close? Like, at night when we're sitting, like, truly, I know they avoid them, but is it by miles? Is it, you know?

• 2:35:07Joe Rogan?

  No, they don't need to be miles away from you. I mean, you can't catch them. They know where you are.

• 2:35:11Speaker 00

  We heard some, we heard some noises of something growling out there. When we were watching the sunset, you could hear some animal. It could have been anything. But you, it's late at night and then you just hear kind of a, and you're like, what was that? What, what could have that been?

• 2:35:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they have a crazy sound that they make, mountain lions. It's really weird.

• 2:35:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:35:29Joe Rogan?

  See, if you can find mountain lion cries, it's a very strange, very strange sound.

• 2:35:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. I saw, I don't even remember.

• 2:35:36Joe Rogan?

  Foxes make a weird noise, too.

• 2:35:38Speaker 00

  There's an animal, I just saw, I don't, I can't remember now, but I just saw a clip of an animal where when they let off a noise at night, it's like, sounds like a man in pain screaming. There's, I, I just saw this like two days ago and it's literally like, and like, so it's like, it like.

• 2:35:59Joe Rogan?

  That's a mountain lion.

• 2:36:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:36:02Joe Rogan?

  It's dark out, you hear that? You're like, oh my god, we're gonna die.

• 2:36:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:36:06Joe Rogan?

  And you're lost, because you're

• 2:36:08Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 2:36:09Joe Rogan?

  You can't figure out how to read the map.

• 2:36:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, your dome, your phone died.

• 2:36:13Joe Rogan?

  You're almost out of water.

• 2:36:14Speaker 00

  You promised your wife, it's right up here, I swear. Yeah.

• 2:36:21Joe Rogan?

  Fuck.

• 2:36:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, how would you, how could you sleep?

• 2:36:24Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever been hunting?

• 2:36:25Speaker 00

  No, I've not, I was saying that, I'm planning a hunting trip to Ireland. My cousin, he's like a YouTuber now, and he posts these videos, Cthol Rogan, if you can give him some support. But he hunts deer.

• 2:36:35Joe Rogan?

  Say that in a way that people are gonna be able to write it down.

• 2:36:38Speaker 00

  Cthol, which is spelled C-A-T-H-A-L. Cthol, Cottle, but the T is silent.

• 2:36:46Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:36:46Speaker 00

  Cthol Rogan, W-O, R-O-W-A-N. So he's got a YouTube channel now, we're watching it, but he goes out hunting. But he goes out in the morning, and he'll have like a big tripod, and he fucking sets it up, and he fucking, and he's killing these deer. There he is, yeah. You're welcome, you little prick.

• 2:37:04Joe Rogan?

  He's only got seventy, seven hundred and twenty-five followers right now, let's see how many he gets.

• 2:37:08Speaker 00

  He's doing his, that'd be so funny now, he has a million, but tomorrow I have nothing.

• 2:37:14Speaker 00

  It'd be so funny. But we're gonna go hunting next year, so he knows all this shit about the deer, and there he is with my uncle out there.

• 2:37:21Joe Rogan?

  I didn't know there was a lot of, uh,

• 2:37:22Speaker 00

  There's a lot of deer hunting. It's not elk, I know that.

• 2:37:25Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't think they have.

• 2:37:26Speaker 00

  But you know Ireland had this thing called the Irish elk?

• 2:37:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 2:37:29Speaker 00

  It's the biggest.

• 2:37:30Joe Rogan?

  Biggest deer species ever. They were huge. Do you know they found their antlers accidentally, like people pulled them up when they were fishing?

• 2:37:37Speaker 00

  No, I didn't know that.

• 2:37:38Joe Rogan?

  Cooked them, like fossilized.

• 2:37:39Speaker 00

  They're like bigger than you could ever imagine.

• 2:37:40Joe Rogan?

  Bigger than any moose, insane. Yeah, it was a huge, huge animal.

• 2:37:44Speaker 00

  It's interesting, because a lot of Irish history, we, I guess like everyone, we just don't really know what's going on. Like, there's a certain timeline where everything is like,

• 2:37:52Joe Rogan?

  That's what it looks like. That's an Irish elk skull. That's crazy. That's found in a lark.

• 2:37:56Speaker 00

  It's like the biggest kind of deer species animal ever, is it, correct?

• 2:37:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was enormous.

• 2:38:01Speaker 00

  But we had bears too, that,

• 2:38:03Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 2:38:04Speaker 00

  We had bears that we killed out before they started documenting anything, because they find these bear bones that have been carved up and stuff. So whatever humans were living in Ireland, killed these guys off. Maybe naturally from the climate change and too, or whatever, but there was definitely,

• 2:38:20Joe Rogan?

  Probably not, probably killing them.

• 2:38:21Speaker 00

  It was, we were co-living together at the same time, and now they're gone. We used to have wolves, I think they reintroduced wolves, we killed them off, and then they brought them back.

• 2:38:29Joe Rogan?

  What a good idea, bring them back.

• 2:38:31Speaker 00

  I guess if there's regions where it's not gonna really be too much farmland, I guess, a couple of wolves are kind of, kind of cool.

• 2:38:38Joe Rogan?

  They're a problem.

• 2:38:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:38:40Joe Rogan?

  They breed, and then they're smart, and they figure out what to do. Colorado's, they had the most retarded decision. They brought wolves and they reintroduced them right outside of Aspen.

• 2:38:50Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:38:51Joe Rogan?

  And they dropped them off, some of them, they dropped off on my friend's ranch. And so this ranch is, he doesn't run any livestock, but he's connected to other ranches that run livestock. And so these wolves are now killing all these cows and calves.

• 2:39:06Speaker 00

  That's why we killed them off, I think, in the first place, wasn't it?

• 2:39:08Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent.

• 2:39:08Speaker 00

  It wasn't that they were necessarily killing us, it was that they were,

• 2:39:11Joe Rogan?

  They were killing us too.

• 2:39:12Speaker 00

  The wolves were taking us too.

• 2:39:13Joe Rogan?

  Do you know the story from World War One? It's a great story.

• 2:39:16Speaker 00

  Do not, please.

• 2:39:17Joe Rogan?

  The Germans and the Russians had a ceasefire, because so many of them were getting killed by wolves. They had a ceasefire where they decided, we're gonna kill the wolves, then we'll go back to killing each other.

• 2:39:27Speaker 00

  Yeah? Is that true? This is like when they played soccer at fucking New Year, on Christmas Eve?

• 2:39:31Joe Rogan?

  That's a different one. I think that was, wasn't that the British and the Germans?

• 2:39:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, the British, they, apparently on Christmas Day, they stopped and had a little kicker bell, and then they went back to shooting each other after that. I don't know, I think that's a myth.

• 2:39:41Joe Rogan?

  No, it's not a myth, it's real.

• 2:39:42Speaker 00

  No, the soccer one I'm saying.

• 2:39:43Joe Rogan?

  I don't think it's a myth. No, soccer one's real.

• 2:39:45Speaker 00

  They stopped and had a little kicker on Christmas, why not?

• 2:39:48Joe Rogan?

  And then apparently the generals and everyone got very angry at them. Like, these are your enemy, go back to killing them. But I mean, like, you don't know these fucking people, they don't know you.

• 2:39:56Speaker 00

  How could you go back to killing someone after they just fucking did it, scored a great goal, or something, did something impressive on the,

• 2:40:02Joe Rogan?

  Or just shook your hand and gave you a cigarette.

• 2:40:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 2:40:06Joe Rogan?

  They were hanging out together. They decided to have a ceasefire and hanging out together.

• 2:40:10Speaker 00

  Shirts for skins, yeah.

• 2:40:10Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, man.

• 2:40:11Speaker 00

  And there was a referee and stuff, and the people,

• 2:40:14Joe Rogan?

  This is the New York Times Associated Press report of it, on Asper, like the AI stuff, it said it's a potential myth. Yeah, it's not. It's real. The Meat Eater did a whole piece on it, where I brought up the story, because someone, I forget what historian told me about the story, and I was like, is that real? And then I brought it up, and then Meat Eater did a whole story on it. Story is widely syndicated in contemporary newspapers, mainstream historians, and archival checks note a lack of official military orders, command logs, cooperating. Go to the Meat Eater story about it, because the Meat Eater story was pretty well documented. You see it above there, there's a link.

• 2:40:50Speaker 00

  Those guys are real.

• 2:40:51Joe Rogan?

  See where it says Meat Eater? Click on that. Okay. Was there a ceasefire during World War One to hunt wolves? So, here it goes in there, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. There, Joe Rogan. Multiple New York newspapers in nineteen seventeen reported this story, including the El Paso Herald, Oklahoma City Times, and New York Times. Since then, it's become a favorite bit of barroom banter among amateur historians like the powerful Joe Rogan. Nineteen seventeen, a dispatch from Berlin noted large packs of wolves moving into populated areas of the German Empire from the forests of Lithuania and Vuhinjia. Locals hypothesized the war effort displaced the wolves, so the Canines started seeking out new hunting grounds.

• 2:41:33Joe Rogan?

  Hungry wolves infiltrated rural villages, attacking calves, sheeps, goats, and in two cases, children. They also showed up at the front lines, feeding on the fallen, and sometimes taking advantage of incapacitated fighters. So this is what happened.

• 2:41:49Speaker 00

  So they would, they would have some sort of a way to send someone over with a white fucking,

• 2:41:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so it says, as a last resort, the two adversaries, with the consent of their commanders, entered into negotiations for an armistice, and joined forces to overcome the wolf plague.

• 2:42:05Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:42:06Speaker 00

  Did it say how many?

• 2:42:07Joe Rogan?

  And this is according to a nineteen seventeen New York Times article. But all to no avail, the wolves nowhere to be found, quite so large and powerful as in Russia, were desperate in their hunger regardless of danger. So apparently, one of the things that had happened was they'd sent guys on patrol, and they wouldn't find them, they wouldn't come back. And then they would go look for them, and they'd find like a foot in a boot, where their leg had been severed off and eaten. And they realized like, oh my god, they're getting hunted by wolves. Because if you're a small group of people, like two guys, and you go out, and there's fifty wolves, like a large pack, they will eat you.

• 2:42:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:42:40Joe Rogan?

  I have a friend of mine who was elk hunting, and he shot an elk. And they didn't realize that they shot an elk essentially where the wolves had their den, and the wolves surrounded them. And they started running in at them, and he killed,

• 2:42:53Speaker 00

  Doing their thing, where they kind of,

• 2:42:54Joe Rogan?

  They killed three of them. He killed two of them with a bow, and the guy he was with killed one of them with a rifle. And then they backed off. The wolves took off, they realized that something was wrong.

• 2:43:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, they realized.

• 2:43:04Joe Rogan?

  They didn't know how many,

• 2:43:05Speaker 00

  They say no bison, right?

• 2:43:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. They also realized like, something's happening where arrows are flying at them and killing them. And they watched these guys get killed, and they eventually took off.

• 2:43:14Speaker 00

  They're super smart.

• 2:43:15Joe Rogan?

  But he said, we were surrounded. My friend John Dudley, he talked about it on the podcast, he's got the wolf skulls in his house.

• 2:43:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. You ever, do you ever see like a video of like a bison gets singled out, surrounded by the wolves, and they just bite, they just,

• 2:43:27Joe Rogan?

  Grab the legs?

• 2:43:28Speaker 00

  He's just spinning and spinning for five, eight hours, and I've seen it with behind the scenes with the documentary, with the whole people recording it. They're like all crying, because they're literally watching an animal fight for life for eight hours, while these packs just bite it and bite it and bite it.

• 2:43:44Joe Rogan?

  But there's a reason why all those old nursery rhymes, like the big bad wolf.

• 2:43:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:43:49Joe Rogan?

  The kids worrying about the big bad wolf dressed up like grandma, that was real. You had to worry, if you sent your children home through the woods, they could get eaten by wolves. That was real.

• 2:43:59Speaker 00

  I thought it was like a metaphor for pedophiles or something.

• 2:44:02Joe Rogan?

  No, well, that too, I'm sure.

• 2:44:04Speaker 00

  Maybe I misinterpreted the art.

• 2:44:06Joe Rogan?

  It's probably, that's probably part of it as well, but a real problem back then was wolves killing people.

• 2:44:12Speaker 00

  Can I ask you a question about the bows? What's the furthest you've got an animal from when you're hunting?

• 2:44:21Joe Rogan?

  With a bow and arrow?

• 2:44:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:44:22Joe Rogan?

  Eighty yards.

• 2:44:23Speaker 00

  Eighty yards. So you'll go out, you'll have your,

• 2:44:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:44:26Speaker 00

  And this'll tell you kind of a distance or something?

• 2:44:28Joe Rogan?

  I have a rangefinder. So, I have a rangefinder, and I lock in on the animal with the rangefinder, it gives you a yardage. And then my bow is specifically calibrated with a sight that moves up, there's a reticle on the sight that moves up and down, depending on where the distance is. So like, say if it's sixty yards. I dial to sixty yards, and my sight moves to a very specific position where my pin, that's where the arrow will drop. If I shoot straight and I don't move during the shot, that's where the arrow will be roughly at sixty yards.

• 2:45:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. So, but it's always the same release, it's just the dial will tell you, could go a little higher?

• 2:45:10Joe Rogan?

  It's very complicated. You wanna go down a rabbit hole of like obsession, bow hunting is the greatest rabbit hole of obsession I've ever gone down. Oh, I bet you would.

• 2:45:19Speaker 00

  I could.

• 2:45:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Wanna see one?

• 2:45:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 2:45:22Joe Rogan?

  When you do it, it is one of the most difficult things I've ever done in my life.

• 2:45:27Speaker 00

  Do you remember the first kill you got?

• 2:45:29Joe Rogan?

  It's right there.

• 2:45:30Speaker 00

  That's you?

• 2:45:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. That's a mule deer that I shot in Montana with Steve Rinella.

• 2:45:37Speaker 00

  And how far, how far was that?

• 2:45:39Joe Rogan?

  That was a rifle, so that was two hundred and fifty yards, I think it was. Um, but when you're doing it, um, you know, you're looking through a scope and you're shooting with a rifle. That's, that's hard to do, but a bow is exponentially harder. It's way harder. It's way harder.

• 2:45:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, sure.

• 2:45:55Joe Rogan?

  You gotta get close. Like the eighty yard shot that I had, the only reason why I would have ever taken that shot, that's, that's an elk throw shot.

• 2:46:03Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 2:46:03Joe Rogan?

  That was fifty, fifty-four yards.

• 2:46:04Speaker 00

  And you don't have any support on that thing, you're holding it.

• 2:46:07Joe Rogan?

  I'm holding it, yeah.

• 2:46:08Speaker 00

  Because my cousin, he, he brings out like a kind of a big tripod that gets the shot for the gun.

• 2:46:12Joe Rogan?

  That's different.

• 2:46:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't do that with the bow?

• 2:46:15Joe Rogan?

  No, but I would do that with a rifle. It makes the rifle more accurate. It's smart, especially if you're shooting at a distance.

• 2:46:20Speaker 00

  He has a silencer on too, which weighs a ton.

• 2:46:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, there's silencers on that. It's, they're not that.

• 2:46:26Speaker 00

  Well, maybe he's a little bit of a bitch about it, but he's.

• 2:46:28Joe Rogan?

  It's not that heavy. I mean, it's, and it's not really a silencer, it's a suppressor. So it really just takes some of the sound out. You can still hear it.

• 2:46:35Speaker 00

  Is that so if you miss, you don't scare everything off? Or even if you do?

• 2:46:38Joe Rogan?

  No, so it doesn't blow your eardrums out.

• 2:46:40Speaker 00

  Alright.

• 2:46:40Joe Rogan?

  Cause if you have a, like, if you have a rifle, like, one of my rifles is, um, it's, uh, it's, is a, it's got what's called a muzzle brake. And a muzzle brake is at the front of the rifle, there's holes in the barrel that allow the gases to disperse. So what that does is it lessens the recoil. So there's less of a kick when the gun goes off. So a very powerful hunting rifle, like if you're shooting a moose or something like that.

• 2:47:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:47:06Joe Rogan?

  You get a powerful rifle. Like, can you wanna, if you wanna kill Charlie Kirk? You got a powerful rifle and on the impact, there's a lot of movement, right? And if you flinch and if you worried about that recall, you, you'll be less accurate. So there's a thing called a muzzle brake. The problem with a muzzle brake is it makes the rifle shot way louder. And I have two friends that have lost hearing because they were close to a, a rifle when it went off with the muzzle brake on it. And they blew their eardrums out. A buddy of mine, um, he's, he has fucking hearing aids.

• 2:47:38Speaker 00

  Really?

• 2:47:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. But the point is that, like, a tripod or, uh, shooting sticks that you sit down allows you to have a much better. Like, most guys, when they're shooting at real distance, so there's things, so there's like, say like fifty yards to a hundred yards. A lot of guys are comfortable shooting offhand. That means just holding the rifle, wrapping the rifle sling around your arm so you're, you know, tight, pushing it to your chest. And then, uh, making sure you're not moving and boom. And you could, up to like a hundred yards, you could probably get away with that. But if it's anything more than that, you really wanna be stabilized. So you wanna be on a tripod or shooting sticks.

• 2:48:23Joe Rogan?

  When it's further than like three hundred yards, most guys wanna be prone. So they wanna be laying down. So what they'll do is they'll lay their pack down and they rest the rifle on their pack and they want their whole body to be rested on the ground. So there's no movement. And so they're looking through that and all they're moving is their finger. So everything is stable and all they're doing is slowly squeezing. So their rifle's resting on that pack. So there's no, nothing that could possibly move it.

• 2:48:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, it seems.

• 2:48:52Joe Rogan?

  So with a bow, you don't have any of that?

• 2:48:53Speaker 00

  Seems like a lot of, like, fun, or at least a very exciting.

• 2:48:56Joe Rogan?

  It's very exciting.

• 2:48:57Speaker 00

  Especially if you can, I don't know, if you're, especially if it's like a thing that's needed for the ecosystem to continue. The ecology of a thing.

• 2:49:05Joe Rogan?

  It certainly is kind of.

• 2:49:08Speaker 00

  Well, that's the excuse we'll only use, so I can kill an animal, not pretend I'm helping.

• 2:49:12Joe Rogan?

  Well, the thing is if you don't kill them, they're gonna get killed. They're, no, no animals live forever and become angels. What happens is they get killed by wolves and usually they get killed in a horrible way.

• 2:49:21Speaker 00

  But in Ireland, we don't have the fucking wolves.

• 2:49:22Joe Rogan?

  Or they freeze to death, or they starve to death. They, they run their teeth down and they can't process food anymore.

• 2:49:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:49:29Joe Rogan?

  And you see them and they're, they're scrawny and all fucked up.

• 2:49:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:49:33Joe Rogan?

  And then, um, something gets them, you know? It's usually winter, more, more animals die from winter than anything, especially in like the mountains.

• 2:49:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:49:40Joe Rogan?

  They, they'll have strong winter die-offs where, like in Utah, where I was at two years ago, they lost something like seventy percent of their population of mule deer. From the winter, winter die-off. Seventy percent of them froze to death.

• 2:49:52Speaker 00

  So then the following year, they've got less tags to get out?

• 2:49:54Joe Rogan?

  Yes, exactly, exactly. And so in those kind of situations, you know, you don't really need humans to take care of the population. The idea is that humans manage the population in a couple of ways. One, um, you do keep the population in check. If it's an area where there's not a lot of predators, then it's kind of important that humans do it because otherwise they can get diseased and there's too many of them. Starvation, overpopulation. But the other thing is that the money that goes into, um, tags and also sporting goods equipment. So when you're buying a tent, if you're buying, um, a rifle, if you're buying a bow, a certain percentage of that money goes into wildlife conservation.

• 2:50:35Speaker 00

  So like REI or one of these kind of places? They, they have to kind of?

• 2:50:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's part of the law. I think it's called, uh, something Pittman, Pittman Roberts Act? And look that up.

• 2:50:48Joe Rogan?

  So what that is, I think it's, I forget what the percentage is, but that percentage here, uh, Pittman Robertson Wildlife Restoration Act. Uh, that was in nineteen thirty-seven. U S federal law places an excise tax on the sale of firearms, ammunition and archery equipment to fund state level wildlife conservation, habitat restoration and hunter safety programs. So it's eleven percent federal excise tax on sporting firearms, ammunition and archery equipment, and a ten percent tax on handguns. And all that goes to conservation. So that pays for game wardens, it pays for wildlife biologists, it pays to make sure that the populations are healthy, they do studies on them.

• 2:51:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:51:30Joe Rogan?

  And things like collaring wolves and, you know, finding out what their migration patterns are, following deer migration patterns. It's also that we keep the populations healthy. It's like the number one contributor in this country to wildlife conservation is hunters.

• 2:51:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, so there you go, yeah.

• 2:51:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because they, if you, the people that don't hunt and don't eat meat or think it's cruel, they would think that there's no way someone who hunts loves animals. There's no way you could.

• 2:51:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly. Would you understand the role of it all?

• 2:51:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:51:59Speaker 00

  I think it makes it. And also I think a lot of hunters who are outside, they're more in tune, I think they're more environmentalist probably than most people who never leave. Cause they have an understanding of leave no trace, things like that. The importance of it. To keep, keeping these hunting places that they hunt, keeping them wild, keeping them like that.

• 2:52:17Joe Rogan?

  Keeping them pure. And it's like, the, one of the most disappointing things when you go hunting and you find like a water bottle or a beer can.

• 2:52:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:52:23Joe Rogan?

  You see, you find like a bunch of beer cans.

• 2:52:24Speaker 00

  Fucking use condom?

• 2:52:27Joe Rogan?

  At least they're being responsible. But you find like places where.

• 2:52:29Speaker 00

  I guess how many people are wrapping up in the middle of the woods today?

• 2:52:34Joe Rogan?

  When you, when you go out to these places, you know, you, you want them to be, look, footprints are one thing, that should be it. Footprints, maybe like a fire pit that you put out, but that should be it. You shouldn't be leaving your shit behind.

• 2:52:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:52:46Speaker 02

  It makes a lot of money every year, but I just noticed this at the end.

• 2:52:50Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so it says, uh, regularly generates between eight hundred million and one point two billion dollars annually. Non-hunter contribution, even though it was originally pushed by sportsmen, data now shows that roughly seventy-three to seventy-four percent of the revenue actually generated by non-hunters. Purchasing firearms and ammunition for recreational shooting, home defense or collecting. That's just cause, because it's ten percent goes to, uh, handguns and eleven percent with rifles. It's just cause more people have those than go hunting. But that's also, no one's like fighting against that. It's a good, it's a good use of tax money.

• 2:53:28Joe Rogan?

  It's, uh, it's very important because if you don't have that, then you just have these wild open lands and you don't have people patrolling them to make sure people aren't poaching.

• 2:53:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:53:38Joe Rogan?

  Cause that's a real problem. Poaching is a giant problem. It's a giant problem in this country. Where people go into land that's not theirs, they, they go onto private land or public land where they don't have a tag and they hunt and, you know.

• 2:53:49Speaker 00

  America's so big, it's like fucking impossible. But you're, the lands that you have here are probably the best thing about this country, the national parks.

• 2:53:57Joe Rogan?

  It's pretty sick.

• 2:53:58Speaker 00

  The systems that you have, I, I, I never learned about it until I moved here.

• 2:54:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:54:02Speaker 00

  That wasn't something you, you thought about and you just think of America like it's all kind of just fast food and fatties in their car. That's kind of it, just some fat dipshit from fucking Tennessee eating Wendy's. And then you get here and then you hear about these national parks, you're like, what? And then you go to them and you're like, what the fuck?

• 2:54:18Joe Rogan?

  I know, it's nuts.

• 2:54:19Speaker 00

  I remember first time going to Zion was just fucking crazy. Crazy. All of Utah is nuts. Utah's gorgeous. I could move there pretty soon. But only Mormon have sixteen wives.

• 2:54:31Joe Rogan?

  Let's go.

• 2:54:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, then why not? That's the American dream I want.

• 2:54:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Utah's fucking beautiful.

• 2:54:36Speaker 00

  Utah is beautiful.

• 2:54:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the mountains of Utah is one of my favorite places to go. That's the one place that I've saw a real mountain lion. I, I was with my friend Colton a few years back and we were driving, he's a hunting guide that I go with every year. And we were driving back, um, so what we do is you drive into the mountains, you park and then you're walking eight, ten miles a day. You're going through the mountain, you have to be in serious shape. Like, I get in shape, like I work out specifically for these trips.

• 2:55:03Speaker 00

  Cause how much, what's the weight on the back?

• 2:55:04Joe Rogan?

  It's not the back, it's just the, the real, carrying them out is a motherfucker, dude. Cause then you're, you got like, uh, we carried that elk out and I got a bunch of guys to help me. We didn't even have to go very far. We only went a few hundred yards, but it was like this, like, like an insane angle with loose dirt. And I had a quarter on my back, a rear hind quarter, which is like a hundred pounds.

• 2:55:27Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 2:55:27Joe Rogan?

  And you're going straight uphill.

• 2:55:29Speaker 00

  Are you like tying that onto a thing?

• 2:55:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're tying it onto a pack. I have a pack.

• 2:55:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:55:34Joe Rogan?

  And my pack is specifically gone, I have, it's called Exo Mountain Gear.

• 2:55:38Speaker 00

  When that's all done, cause it's the same feeling as when you go to the gym and you're finished and you feel fucking great or what? Whatever. When you've done hunting, got the deer back, you must feel like, that's good.

• 2:55:50Joe Rogan?

  It's amazing.

• 2:55:51Speaker 00

  And then your phone goes, bleep, bleep, did you hear about this? And you go, no, I don't wanna know about it. I'm killing fucking deer.

• 2:55:57Joe Rogan?

  But when you're, when you're doing that and you eat it, your connection to that food is so different.

• 2:56:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:56:03Joe Rogan?

  I made an elk steak, or an elk roast, rather, yesterday, and I was eating it. And I was eating, I was like, I was there.

• 2:56:11Speaker 00

  You got this motherfucker.

• 2:56:12Joe Rogan?

  Remember when this happened. I remember the arrow flying. I remember the sound when it hit the rib cage. I remember quartering it up and carrying it out. I remember, I remember all the work. I remember all the hours I practiced shooting my bow.

• 2:56:25Speaker 00

  Wow. Well, you, most people get that kinda feel, like a little bit of that feeling from fucking growing like herbs in their yard, in their yard. And then you feel great when you put a little parsley on something. So if you were to really learn how to bow and track it and learn to fucking, how to follow them, where they find them, I think it's probably rewarding. More rewarding than going to fucking Burger King. This is the problem is people think, and I love animals and I think I'm an environmentalist and I just, but like, I think people associate hunting with this kind of an anti-environment thing. Whereas the guy eating a Burger King is probably just as like, that's maybe arguably, you could say that's like less ethical. The way we like farm cows versus actually catching a fucking.

• 2:57:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, especially industrial agriculture. When they, when they, when do industrial farming of animals is wild. That should be illegal. They should have never allowed that to happen in the first place when they have these giant warehouses stuffed with pigs.

• 2:57:18Speaker 00

  Now we're reliant on it, so you can't, you can't get, you know.

• 2:57:21Joe Rogan?

  Now cities need it.

• 2:57:22Speaker 00

  I could be, I could be probably persuade, I could have somewhere in there with the right argument, I could probably persuade it to kinda like get away from, like unethically.

• 2:57:32Joe Rogan?

  Sourced food, yeah.

• 2:57:34Speaker 00

  I could, I could be convinced to go like vegan, I guess, but probably not, but.

• 2:57:38Joe Rogan?

  It's not that good for you. It's very difficult to do it right, to be vegan and to get all the, essential amino acids and B12, and you have to supplement with a lot of things.

• 2:57:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:57:49Joe Rogan?

  It's very difficult to just eat vegetables.

• 2:57:51Speaker 00

  You get to tell everyone. But you do get to tell everyone and go, sorry. You get to make Christmas difficult for your fucking.

• 2:57:57Joe Rogan?

  Animals die in making food, especially monocrop agriculture. You have to kill millions and millions of birds and,

• 2:58:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:58:06Joe Rogan?

  rodents and rabbits and groundhogs. They all have to die. They all have to die. And if you have a large monocrop farm, you're killing a fuckload of animals every year.

• 2:58:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:58:17Joe Rogan?

  And forget about the bugs, the amount of bugs you murder. You have to murder so many bugs in order to have a farm.

• 2:58:23Speaker 00

  What, you were spraying shit?

• 2:58:25Joe Rogan?

  Spraying.

• 2:58:26Speaker 00

  Driving.

• 2:58:26Joe Rogan?

  Pesticides, they get run over by stuff, combines chew up animals that are there. It's a, there's a lot of death involved in acquiring food. It's just the difference between the death envi- involved in acquiring food. The feeling that you get from just going to a grocery store and picking up some vegetables, you don't think about it. You think, oh, vegetables, no big deal, get some vegetables. Lot of death involved in growing those vegetables. No fucking question about it. Unless you're going to a regenerative organic farm and buying all your vegetables from there. But I think the best way is to grow your own in a garden. The feeling that you get, like we're talking about like parsley and herbs and stuff like that.

• 2:59:06Joe Rogan?

  The feeling that you get when you make a salad from your own garden is fucking amazing. Amazing. It's amazing. You're slicing up your own peppers.

• 2:59:14Speaker 00

  Tomatoes.

• 2:59:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, all that stuff. Putting it in a salad, putting the olive oil and vinegar on it, you're eating it like, I fucking grew this.

• 2:59:20Speaker 00

  And then you make it, and you also, you share it out with your family, which is the, probably the purest thing alive is to eat with your family. Might be nothing better than that. Killing, killing on stage and then, feeding your family tomatoes that you grew in your yard are the two great goals in life.

• 2:59:37Joe Rogan?

  We get to experience a thing that most people will never experience. And that is the, the feeling that you get from a crowd of people having a great time laughing.

• 2:59:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:59:47Joe Rogan?

  That is, I can't imagine a life without that.

• 2:59:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:59:51Joe Rogan?

  Cause it's such a high, it's such, I, I have had so many conversations with my friends, like imagine going through life and never killing. Not once.

• 2:59:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:00:00Joe Rogan?

  Never once, never once where you get a standing ovation, everybody's laughing, thank you very much, goodnight. That feeling is, we're so lucky. We're so fucking lucky to have that feeling.

• 3:00:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:00:12Joe Rogan?

  And the fact, to have it all the time. You're gonna have it tonight.

• 3:00:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, hopefully. Well, the thing is, even, even, even, even great comics can bomb, right? And then even bad comics can kill. It's sort of just the, I, yeah, yeah. Too, less likely than a great comic bombing for sure.

• 3:00:28Joe Rogan?

  Especially when you release a special, then you're unarmed. And then you have to go on stage with new material. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're just trying.

• 3:00:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:00:37Joe Rogan?

  And the beginning few sets, they're painful.

• 3:00:41Speaker 00

  I'm going through some growing, I got this like new bit without giving away, but about a caveman and his wife having a fight. And it crushes so hard for the first little bit. And then I kinda get into some deep waters where I don't know where the fight's going. And sometimes it works out where they, you know, makes sense. And then sometimes it just, alright.

• 3:01:00Joe Rogan?

  But one day it'll work.

• 3:01:01Speaker 00

  Hopefully.

• 3:01:02Joe Rogan?

  It'll take forever.

• 3:01:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:01:03Joe Rogan?

  I mean, that's what it is, man. It's like this, this long journey of trying to figure out what a bit really is. And then there's a real problem with getting trapped in the original structure of it. Like sometimes I get accustomed to saying something a certain way.

• 3:01:15Speaker 00

  Hundred percent.

• 3:01:15Joe Rogan?

  And then I'm like, boy, this is dull. There's something about this I don't like.

• 3:01:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:01:19Joe Rogan?

  I need to abandon it and redo it from the beginning. I know there's something in the premise.

• 3:01:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:01:24Joe Rogan?

  But it's not there.

• 3:01:25Speaker 00

  Repetitive and like, I start off, that's my biggest problem is I start off loose. And then you say it so many times, so many nights, that suddenly you decide to go, now I'm reciting a script and I'm not talking to these people at all.

• 3:01:36Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 3:01:36Speaker 00

  So sometimes I'll intentionally say something different, even if it makes the joke a little worse.

• 3:01:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:01:42Speaker 00

  It elevates the experience because they know I'm fucking in the room, but that's how I tried. All of my favorite people, Patrice and Burr and all these guys, they are like that. Where not every set is the same.

• 3:01:52Joe Rogan?

  Yes. You're fucking around with it.

• 3:01:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:01:54Joe Rogan?

  And it keeps it fresh in your mind. It's still real.

• 3:01:57Speaker 00

  We're blessed with some of the Patrice O'Neil stuff because he has the same jokes in multiple different places, but they're, it's a different kinda thing each time. It's a different vibe. It's a different way of speaking.

• 3:02:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, he was very improvisational, very loose and also wise. Like he, he, he would do these points. He would make these points, he'd be like, oh, yeah.

• 3:02:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:02:16Joe Rogan?

  Always. There was so much of his material.

• 3:02:18Speaker 00

  Salty in a dumb way. It might be real stupid. Like that bit about him enjoying watching baseball and then his wife comes over and his girlfriend comes over, sits beside him going, what you doing? He goes, are you watching baseball? Put the, why are the blinds shut? Like, let me put, open the blinds, get the light in here. He was like, what are you eating? You eating a burger? You don't want a burger. It's 11 a.m. I'm gonna make you a sandwich, a, a dried turkey sandwich. And then she's like, hug me, kiss me, kiss me, mean it, mean the kiss.

• 3:02:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, you've got the best bit. You've got the best.

• 3:02:51Joe Rogan?

  He was awesome.

• 3:02:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:02:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:02:53Speaker 00

  I wish I, I wish I, I wish he was around when, for, just to have seen him once, you know, before he was dead. He was dead by the time I got here.

• 3:03:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, he would be the biggest podcaster on earth.

• 3:03:03Speaker 00

  Think so?

• 3:03:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:03:04Speaker 00

  Beige.

• 3:03:04Joe Rogan?

  He'd be right up there. He'd be like, me and him would be right there together. He might be number one, I might be number two. That would be good for me.

• 3:03:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, your rival is.

• 3:03:13Joe Rogan?

  Take a little, no, just take a little weight off.

• 3:03:15Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you don't know, maybe he's a fucking wacky old fucking retard too, because a lot of people, that happens. You don't, you don't know.

• 3:03:22Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no. He was too smart. He would not have been wacky. He would have had great takes on things. He was just always, he was fantastic on Opie and Anthony. Like that's where I hung out with him the most. Like doing Opie and Anthony with him.

• 3:03:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, he was the best.

• 3:03:36Joe Rogan?

  Crusher. Just, he's just, it was so funny, like finding things that you do that are stupid. And like rubbing them in your face and you have to like, like, no, no, that's so true.

• 3:03:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he would have been awesome on podcasts. Cause he was like designed for that. Let's work, cause Opie and Anthony was really the first podcast. It was really, it was a radio show, sure, but credit to them, the way they ran it, they let the comedians run it. It was, you know, Voss and Jimmy Norton and Burr and Ari and all of us, we'd be in there and it would just be like a wild podcast.

• 3:04:09Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 3:04:10Joe Rogan?

  They, they let everybody just go nuts. They didn't have a structure. Like if you do Howard Stern, you have a structure. Howard Stern's not gonna let me come on with three of my friends and, and just talk shit and smoke weed and, and get crazy. With, with Howard Stern, you'd go on, so, so let me tell you, let me ask you a fear factor. Did you do that? Did you like that show? Did you just do it for money? He would ask, he would, it's an interview.

• 3:04:31Speaker 00

  And that was emailed to you beforehand, these are the questions we're gonna ask?

• 3:04:33Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no. Howard didn't do it that way. But, but when you would do Opie and Anthony, you would do it, it was a hang.

• 3:04:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:04:40Joe Rogan?

  You'd just go in and everybody would hang out. And there was always content. And it made me realize like, oh, you don't have to have a structure. Like this conversation.

• 3:04:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:04:48Joe Rogan?

  You and I met last night for the first time. We hung out in the green room, had a grand old time. And then we came here today. We didn't talk about what we're gonna talk about.

• 3:04:56Speaker 00

  We actually didn't talk about a single thing we talked about last night. I was coming in here today going, I think I'm gonna talk about Ark of the Trion or whatever, not the, the Ark of the Covenant. Ark of the Covenant being guarded by some fucking Ethiopians. I was like, we're definitely talking about that. Didn't even come close to it.

• 3:05:10Joe Rogan?

  But that's the thing about a podcast, and that was the thing about Opie and Anthony. It was wide open, and I think that was the birth of podcasts. I think that show in particular, because of the way they ran it, particularly because of Anthony. Like Anthony Kumia is a very, uh, he's got a lot of interesting information and knowledge in his head.

• 3:05:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:05:29Joe Rogan?

  And he always will pull these things out, like historical references to things like. So the way this started, and he would explain something, and you're like, whoa, that's crazy. Like, he knows a lot of things, and it like contributed to the depth of the conversation. And then everybody'd be talking shit about each other, but they just let it play out.

• 3:05:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, if you listen to on Spotify somewhere, someone's put all of the Patrice O'Neal. It's like a whole like album of just Patrice O'Neal and O N A. And like sometimes I'd put that on, even I used to drive trucks, I'd put that on. And it was just, there was something about it, because it was so, it was very slow, almost like as in no one was in any hurry. Sometimes with podcasts now, we're all like trying to zing, zing, whatever. They had this kind of a calm thing, we're going, we're here for four fucking hours, so let's take our time, let's relax.

• 3:06:11Joe Rogan?

  And they're doing it every day.

• 3:06:12Speaker 00

  And they were talking about one subject for a long time.

• 3:06:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:06:14Speaker 00

  They would stick on it for an hour and a half.

• 3:06:17Joe Rogan?

  It was a great show.

• 3:06:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:06:18Joe Rogan?

  I remember before I did it, I would listen to it all the time, like these guys are having fun.

• 3:06:22Speaker 00

  Kumia's doing something with Jim now.

• 3:06:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:06:24Speaker 00

  They have a podcast.

• 3:06:25Joe Rogan?

  Fantastic. They were just guests on Kill Tony.

• 3:06:28Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 3:06:29Joe Rogan?

  So the episode's out this week.

• 3:06:30Speaker 00

  Kill, I didn't, I saw I did Kill Tony a couple of weeks ago, I was in town. And they just let me go up and do a spot, you know, I didn't have to do a bucket or anything like that. But I got more feedback on that show than like pretty much anything I've ever done.

• 3:06:40Joe Rogan?

  It's huge.

• 3:06:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, I had like cousins I haven't talked to in years, reach out to me and things like that, going, hey, I saw you on fucking Kill Tony. And I was like, yeah, well, I'm doing stuff all the time, actually, but yeah, thanks, you found this, yeah, it's massive.

• 3:06:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I went to the Monday night, well, I went to meet Jeremy Clarkson, because he came to watch the Monday night.

• 3:06:56Speaker 00

  He was just hanging out and awesome, wasn't he?

• 3:06:57Joe Rogan?

  Just hanging out, hanging out in the green room. He's the best. He's so fun. But Jimmy introduced me to him, Jimmy Carr, so he was a guest on the panel.

• 3:07:04Speaker 00

  You know, I heckled Jimmy Carr in a theater before I ever did stand up, years ago. Fucking years ago. I, I don't know what got into, you know, he, no, he was doing a Q and A at the end of it, and this is a big theater in Ireland. And he was like, anyone have any questions? And I said, can I get a photo with you after the show? And then he started making fun of my accent, going, I get a photo with you. He goes, oh, my stolen camera, or whatever. And then I said, your fat head might not fit in the photo. And then the whole crowd goes, whoa, and then he did a little, let me just open this can of whoop ass. And I don't even, I don't even remember what he said to me, but he just unleashed all of the, and people are grabbing me going, ah, you're fucking strangers. You're fucking idiot, you dipshit.

• 3:07:47Joe Rogan?

  Did, were you thinking about doing comedy before that?

• 3:07:50Speaker 00

  I think I might have been, yeah.

• 3:07:52Joe Rogan?

  Right, like in the backyard.

• 3:07:53Speaker 00

  And I definitely started, I met him again years later, I had another show, and I told him the story, but I definitely, I wanted, you know, I wanted to do comedy when I was like 16. Because I saw it on TV, I go, this is the coolest thing ever. But I'd only ever seen specials. That's all I knew was specials. So I was like, I gotta write an hour, and then I'll go do an special. That's why I, I was 16, I didn't have any idea. So I remember sitting down going, all right, I'll write it, I'll write a little every night. And then after a couple of weeks, I'll have an hour, and then I'll just go be on TV like these guys. Like, that's genuine, I had no understanding of what was the in-between there.

• 3:08:25Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 3:08:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, so I remember writing a story one night, and then the next night I, I sat down to write again, I reread the previous night, I was like, that's not funny at all. And I just said, all right, I can't do that. And then it wasn't until like fucking, yeah, you know, six years later, I saw a thing on TV about open mics. I was like, oh, I didn't even realize there's like a whole thing in between. Yeah, process, yeah. And then that was like years ago.

• 3:08:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, listen, brother, you're very funny.

• 3:08:48Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 3:08:48Joe Rogan?

  Really funny. I'm, I'm enjoying watching your shit. I'm looking forward to watching you tonight, live.

• 3:08:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, the caveman, we'll see if it goes or not.

• 3:08:55Joe Rogan?

  Let's go.

• 3:08:56Speaker 00

  This is the new special?

• 3:08:56Joe Rogan?

  The special, Bells and Whistles, available right now on YouTube. Where'd you film it?

• 3:09:01Speaker 00

  New York Comedy Club.

• 3:09:02Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 3:09:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:09:03Joe Rogan?

  Beautiful.

• 3:09:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, there we go.

• 3:09:04Joe Rogan?

  All right.

• 3:09:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, thank you so much, Joe.

• 3:09:06Joe Rogan?

  Thank you, brother.

• 3:09:07Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 3:09:07Joe Rogan?

  Let's do this again sometime.

• 3:09:08Speaker 00

  I'd love it.

• 3:09:08Joe Rogan?

  All right. Bye, everybody.