Saying Goodbye to Filippo. THIS CAR POD! EP129

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• 1:05Doug DeMuro?

  Hello and welcome to This Car Pod.

• 1:09Speaker 04

  I'm Filippo.

• 1:10Speaker 05

  I'm Nick.

• 1:10Doug DeMuro?

  I'm Doug and the big news today. Filippo is departing.

• 1:16Speaker 04

  That is accurate. After six years.

• 1:18Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, wow. He's got like a thing prepared.

• 1:20Speaker 04

  I got, I got thoughts. After six years, leaving Cars and Bids. Six years.

• 1:24Doug DeMuro?

  Six years.

• 1:25Speaker 04

  A little bit over that, really, but thereabouts.

• 1:28Doug DeMuro?

  Folks, we are not kidding. This is not a drill. Filippo is leaving Cars and Bids. Filippo, I don't even know why he's on this podcast. He's never been like a content person. He only showed up on the podcast because we asked him to one day and then it stuck. He is, he works in our operations division. He creates the operations. And now he's going to go do that for?

• 1:48Speaker 04

  I'll be working at Ford.

• 1:50Doug DeMuro?

  Filippo is going to work for Ford Motor Company. Now, there's a lot to talk about here.

• 1:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:56Doug DeMuro?

  But the big thing is, don't you agree that from now on, in order to eliminate any possible impurance of bias, we have to talk negatively about all Fords?

• 2:09Speaker 04

  Or just don't talk about Fords ever.

• 2:11Doug DeMuro?

  Don't you think, like, because Nick's going to stay, don't you worry, but don't don't you think that from now on, people are going to accuse us of being a Ford shill podcast because our, our, our main guy went to work for Ford?

• 2:25Speaker 05

  I was, I was thinking, since we have a mole at Ford, that we would just not allow to talk about Ford whatsoever. So we just ignore all Ford news.

• 2:33Doug DeMuro?

  I think we talk about Ford, but I think we say very negative things. Every time a Ford comes up, we say, oh, the Mustang GTD, it's a great car, but we hate it.

• 2:41Speaker 05

  Yeah. Is it your decision to get a Jeep 392 over a Ford Philson?

• 2:45Doug DeMuro?

  Specifically because I knew Filippo was going to, and people would say, oh, of course he's getting a Ford. Filippo probably got him a deal.

• 2:52Speaker 05

  And you know what else I was thinking after his news is that the, the Catfish Camaro doesn't look that bad. Like, it's grown on me a lot in the last two weeks.

• 3:00Doug DeMuro?

  I love the Ford gen. Okay. Regardless, Filippo.

• 3:05Speaker 04

  Dude.

• 3:05Doug DeMuro?

  This is the end of Filippo.

• 3:07Speaker 04

  We're so sad.

• 3:08Doug DeMuro?

  I'm here next week on the podcast. Filippo's going to be on next week's pod. That's where we're going to do our big tribute to Filippo.

• 3:12Speaker 04

  Please don't.

• 3:13Doug DeMuro?

  Please, I beg.

• 3:15Speaker 05

  I'm sad that you're not sticking on the pod because I feel like certain people are able to have a, a day job and still be on the pod.

• 3:21Doug DeMuro?

  He's going to work for a legitimate company and you can't, there's no.

• 3:24Speaker 04

  Also, there's some psych conflicts in there.

• 3:26Doug DeMuro?

  So Filippo's leaving. Filippo, I want to talk quickly. You've been here for six years. We started this company in June of 20. And almost immediately, I begged Filippo to come and start writing auction listings for us, maybe within the first week. He was writing auction listings because we got way more submissions than we ever thought we would and we needed, desperately needed help. So he started off the writer of auction listings and he clawed his way to the top.

• 3:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's right.

• 3:53Speaker 04

  I think I've worn every hat at this company at some point.

• 3:57Doug DeMuro?

  Hat, including content guy. And now, after giving him all these opportunities, this is how he repays.

• 4:05Speaker 05

  I'm most worried about, he's always been the voice of reason to tell you no whenever you had a crazy idea. What's going to happen without a check and balance?

• 4:13Doug DeMuro?

  I personally, the, the main thing I am worried about is that Filippo knows regular cars and the car business. And aside from me, everyone else is a little shaky on those things. You know what I mean? Like if I said Holden Jackaroo to you, you'd probably think I'm talking about like a character from a fiction novel.

• 4:32Speaker 05

  No, I know it's an Aussie market car.

• 4:35Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 4:36Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. Filippo, what are you going to be doing over there at Ford?

• 4:39Speaker 04

  I'll be a director of EV strategy, so kind of helping plan out the next, call it decade of what to invest in, what to build around the world.

• 4:46Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 4:46Speaker 04

  Wow. Which is exciting.

• 4:48Doug DeMuro?

  This is real. He's going to a real job, people. He's no longer going to be sitting on this podcast talking about Nick's convertible Range Rover.

• 4:56Speaker 04

  Right. I'll have to do that on my own time.

• 4:59Speaker 05

  So Ford's EV lineup right now, though, is only the Mach-E.

• 5:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, and the Fathom's coming out.

• 5:04Doug DeMuro?

  They're about to come out with the Fathom.

• 5:05Speaker 05

  Are you going to get to tell them no? Like, you'd be like, no, no. Mach-E.

• 5:09Speaker 04

  Just none of that.

• 5:11Doug DeMuro?

  The Mach-E's great. What's wrong with the Mach-E? Oh, no, we hate it. We hate the Mach-E.

• 5:15Speaker 05

  It's just, it's a Ford.

• 5:16Doug DeMuro?

  We hate it. It's, it's a great car, but unfortunately on this podcast, we hate it.

• 5:22Speaker 05

  Let me tell you, day one, walk in, revive the Mercury brand.

• 5:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Number one priority.

• 5:27Speaker 05

  We want a Marauder and not an EV Marauder, a real Marauder.

• 5:31Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, he's going to go.

• 5:32Speaker 04

  The best way to sell EVs in the world.

• 5:34Speaker 05

  Edition minivan, that's a, that's a deal breaker.

• 5:36Speaker 04

  That's a good, would you buy it?

• 5:38Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 5:39Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 5:39Speaker 05

  If you build it, I will come.

• 5:41Speaker 04

  That's a good point.

• 5:41Doug DeMuro?

  Okay, so you're going to do EV stuff at Ford. You're leaving Cars and Bids.

• 5:45Speaker 04

  It's going to be wild. The biggest company I've ever worked at.

• 5:48Doug DeMuro?

  Ford is.

• 5:49Speaker 04

  No, no, currently till through next week. It's 36 people. That's how many employees Cars and Bids has.

• 5:55Doug DeMuro?

  How many employees does Ford have?

• 5:56Speaker 04

  Oh, many, many, many, many, many more.

• 5:58Speaker 05

  You've got 36 people in HR.

• 6:00Speaker 04

  Yeah. At the least.

• 6:01Doug DeMuro?

  Like 2,000 people in HR.

• 6:04Speaker 04

  It's, it's going to be a bit of a transition, but I'm excited.

• 6:06Doug DeMuro?

  Ford has 169,000 employees. Of course, that presumably includes factory workers, but not dealership employees. People who wear the blue oval hat are significant.

• 6:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, so.

• 6:17Doug DeMuro?

  In number.

• 6:17Speaker 04

  So let's, let's do some math here. 169,000, 4,700 times the size.

• 6:24Doug DeMuro?

  4,700 times the size of Cars and Bids.

• 6:26Speaker 04

  Of Cars and Bids. But.

• 6:28Doug DeMuro?

  Ford really is doing better than we are.

• 6:30Speaker 04

  Their profit also a little more, turns out. Although their, their overall market cap, a little higher.

• 6:36Doug DeMuro?

  Well, wait a minute. Net income last year was negative $8 billion.

• 6:39Speaker 05

  Oh, actually, killing it, killing it.

• 6:42Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 6:43Speaker 04

  I retract that. I do want to say, after six years of working here, it is very, I'm excited for this new opportunity, but it's also very sad to leave. I have a lot of love and also trust in what the company's doing and like what, and what's coming next. Felt like the right time personally for me to take this new opportunity, but very sad to not work in this.

• 7:02Doug DeMuro?

  Then why would you leave if you're so sad?

• 7:04Speaker 04

  Yeah. Because sometimes it's time for something new and the company's in a really, really, really good position and I don't think that I'm sorry.

• 7:10Speaker 05

  Ford or Cars and Bids?

• 7:11Speaker 04

  Cars and Bids.

• 7:13Doug DeMuro?

  Not Ford.

• 7:14Speaker 04

  Both, both, both.

• 7:15Doug DeMuro?

  So why would you, Filippo, why would you do this to us? Every day we come down here and we, and we sit on the podcast and we talk about dumb stuff and there's people out there listening.

• 7:25Speaker 04

  I know, it's insane.

• 7:26Speaker 05

  It's a reflection on you and I, I think. He doesn't want to have to do this with us anymore. This is the only way out.

• 7:32Speaker 04

  I hope you take it as such. That would be a good learning experience. No, it just, the company's in a really good position, Cars and Bids. And I think that new talent coming on, on our operations side, doing our finance, helping with our growth will help take the company to the next level.

• 7:45Doug DeMuro?

  And also you want a new challenge.

• 7:47Speaker 04

  And I want a new challenge.

• 7:47Doug DeMuro?

  The most real.

• 7:48Speaker 04

  Six years in at a startup is, is a long.

• 7:50Doug DeMuro?

  It's a long time. You've done an enormous job. I agree that the company is, you know, when you started, we were, we were fledgling, splashing around, trying to find high ground. Like now, the company is like kind of killing it. And a lot of that is thanks to your input and

• 8:06Speaker 04

  I appreciate that.

• 8:07Doug DeMuro?

  and the work that you've done over the years. I truly mean that.

• 8:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, thanks. I appreciate it. It's exciting.

• 8:12Doug DeMuro?

  But on a personal level, you know, we come to work in this office every day and it's so fun that we are all around our friends.

• 8:19Speaker 04

  It is so.

• 8:20Doug DeMuro?

  We got Sean and Nick over there and, and, and Ryan Lopez sometimes, not, not today, of course, it's a, it's a Wednesday, but he's not in. And it's sad. It'll be really sad that like Filippo's not here.

• 8:31Speaker 04

  I know. I'll probably still be here. Let's be honest.

• 8:34Speaker 05

  The beauty is, so Kenan also.

• 8:35Speaker 04

  You gonna give up my keys?

• 8:36Speaker 05

  Kenan spread his wings. We're still buddies. We hang out all the time. Like it, Filippo will not be leaving us. He'll just be leaving the pod.

• 8:43Speaker 04

  I'll be leaving the pod and I'll

• 8:44Speaker 05

  And your Slack channels.

• 8:45Speaker 04

  Have a double desk creation over there that is mostly papers.

• 8:49Doug DeMuro?

  It's hard to believe. This is, this is massive news. Our audience is going to be so sad. There are real Filippo lovers out there.

• 8:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:56Doug DeMuro?

  And folks, I'm going to tell you right now, we don't have someone to replace him. Like, we're going to keep having Kenan on, we're going to keep having Nick on, we, we're going to have Ryan Lopez and Sean maybe sometimes. My buddy Sam said he'd come on.

• 9:06Speaker 04

  Whoa, Sam's going to come on?

• 9:07Doug DeMuro?

  Maybe, but like, we don't have a Filippo.

• 9:09Speaker 04

  Why, why are they not here?

• 9:10Doug DeMuro?

  Here are the things that I think define Filippo's tenure on the pod.

• 9:13Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 9:14Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, is his unbelievable shilling for Cars and Bids. No matter what the circumstance. Cars and Bids could have killed a guy in the street and Filippo would be like, well, we did it efficiently. We did it efficiently.

• 9:27Speaker 04

  Want to be clear, we didn't kill anybody on any street.

• 9:32Speaker 05

  That's your factual, he's fact-checked me multiple times on air.

• 9:35Doug DeMuro?

  That's another thing.

• 9:36Speaker 05

  Facts are important and it's-

• 9:37Doug DeMuro?

  Filippo with his facts and with his, and with his knowledge of, like, I'm gonna have to take up the mantle as like the rational one. This is like John Roberts has suddenly had to become a liberal, you know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to take up the mantle as the factual one because everybody else is obviously nuts, you especially.

• 9:55Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 9:55Doug DeMuro?

  A Doug, Nick, Ryan Lopez positive is gonna go so far.

• 9:59Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:00Speaker 04

  Oh, they can't be near each other.

• 10:02Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 10:02Speaker 04

  Doesn't work. All the conversation is about smoke shows. And it's really a problem. It's not airable.

• 10:08Doug DeMuro?

  And so that's, this is, that's what we're going to lose and we won't be able to get it. Now, if you live in San Diego and you think you can replace Filippo, send us an email. Sean, S E A N, at carsandbids.com.

• 10:19Speaker 04

  That's right, that's right.

• 10:19Doug DeMuro?

  Or [email protected].

• 10:23Speaker 04

  Thankfully, not my email. You're, you're good. Uh, it will be the first place I've ever worked where my first name is not the entirety of the email.

• 10:30Doug DeMuro?

  Uh huh.

• 10:31Speaker 04

  Every job I've had is [email protected].

• 10:34Doug DeMuro?

  Damn, you knew that, you're finding out Filippo's email address the day he's leaving, sorry, everybody.

• 10:39Speaker 04

  Really hard to figure out. Can I say?

• 10:42Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 10:42Speaker 04

  Cause I was looking at the stats earlier and I got a shill for Cars and Bids.

• 10:45Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 10:46Speaker 05

  One last shot.

• 10:47Doug DeMuro?

  No, it's gonna be many more.

• 10:48Speaker 04

  We have now auctioned over forty thousand cars.

• 10:50Doug DeMuro?

  Forty thousand?

• 10:51Speaker 04

  We have sold over nine hundred million dollars worth of cars. We're on track to sell three hundred million dollars worth of cars this year. We've already sold more cars this year than all of twenty twenty-five. Uh, this podcast is the number one automotive podcast, Cars and Friends, which Nick is often on, is the number two automotive podcast in the country. So we're one and two.

• 11:08Doug DeMuro?

  Yep.

• 11:09Speaker 04

  Uh, and that is-

• 11:09Doug DeMuro?

  My channel's still number one for car reviews.

• 11:11Speaker 04

  Your channel's a hundred percent number one for car reviews.

• 11:12Doug DeMuro?

  The positioning of all of it, content, the business.

• 11:14Speaker 04

  We're just crushing.

• 11:15Doug DeMuro?

  I will say one thing, many years ago, uh, when Filippo decided to join this business, which, uh, I think was the summer of twenty, the late summer of twenty.

• 11:22Speaker 04

  You were like, don't, don't come here.

• 11:24Doug DeMuro?

  I told him not to, cause I thought it was a sinking ship, which I thought up until about six weeks ago. No, but, but longer than I should have. But, but anyway, I told Filippo, uh, I said, if we get to a point where we are selling, where we are auctioning fifty-five cars a day.

• 11:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:37Doug DeMuro?

  I will buy you a car.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  You did say that.

• 11:39Doug DeMuro?

  And, um,

• 11:41Speaker 04

  We are.

• 11:41Doug DeMuro?

  We were at like twenty at the time, or maybe fifteen, you know?

• 11:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:44Doug DeMuro?

  We are now at fifty-four cars a day. And Filippo has decided at this point to make his decision.

• 11:49Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 11:50Doug DeMuro?

  And unfortunately, we didn't quite get up to the number.

• 11:53Speaker 04

  There have been days that we've auctioned fifty-five cars. There have been weeks where we've auctioned fifty-five cars, but not quite, not, not, that doesn't quite meet the threshold, like, fifty cars a day on average.

• 12:02Doug DeMuro?

  Next week, we're gonna do it and he's done.

• 12:04Speaker 04

  I know.

• 12:05Speaker 05

  The other question is, is Ford gonna give you a company car? Was that a decision where you were like, oh, I, I got free tires and a free mattress for Doug, but I got a free car at Ford? Like, how, how important was that?

• 12:16Doug DeMuro?

  You're gonna get yourself into a, uh-

• 12:17Speaker 05

  How much you make it?

• 12:18Speaker 04

  F three fifty?

• 12:19Speaker 05

  Give us, give us your comp.

• 12:21Speaker 04

  Uh, I, I will likely have some kind of Ford vehicle, yes.

• 12:24Doug DeMuro?

  Wow, he's gonna be driving around in a Mach-E.

• 12:26Speaker 04

  To be clear, I currently have a Ford vehicle.

• 12:28Doug DeMuro?

  He's gonna be driving around in a Mach-E with-

• 12:29Speaker 05

  Barely.

• 12:30Doug DeMuro?

  Michigan manufacturer plates.

• 12:31Speaker 04

  Isn't that just-

• 12:32Doug DeMuro?

  A Mach-E Dune Edition, because it's the only one they can-

• 12:35Speaker 05

  A manufacturer plate would be a big F U to your, your P P plates.

• 12:38Doug DeMuro?

  It would, oh, yeah, and also the fact that he's just cruising around on manufacturer plates. I had to earn them with all the press cars.

• 12:45Speaker 05

  What if he gets like the, the GT ninety concept as his daily?

• 12:48Speaker 04

  That'd be cool.

• 12:50Doug DeMuro?

  This, this-

• 12:50Speaker 05

  Or a Ford Ka, you know, like, he's just flexing on us all.

• 12:53Doug DeMuro?

  A street Ka.

• 12:54Speaker 04

  By the way, there have been a lot of days that we've started more than fifty auctions.

• 12:56Doug DeMuro?

  I understand that, more than fifty, I said fifty-five.

• 12:59Speaker 04

  Sorry, sorry, I apologize, more than fifty-five.

• 13:00Doug DeMuro?

  There have been a few. Uh, the point is that you didn't quite-

• 13:03Speaker 04

  I'll take a car.

• 13:04Doug DeMuro?

  You didn't quite stick around long enough.

• 13:06Speaker 05

  You can have the Audi A2, his old one.

• 13:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, we sold that one on carsandbids.com.

• 13:10Speaker 05

  They would sell it back.

• 13:10Speaker 04

  The, the best place to, to buy and sell your cool cars.

• 13:14Doug DeMuro?

  He's like Obama trying to transition to Hillary, but then Trump shows up.

• 13:19Speaker 04

  That is my life.

• 13:22Doug DeMuro?

  Um,

• 13:22Speaker 04

  Trump just shows up.

• 13:23Doug DeMuro?

  I will forever be grateful of your service. Filippo will be on the pod, I'm serious about that. Filippo will be on the podcast next week and we will, Sean's putting together a tribute.

• 13:32Speaker 04

  Oh, please don't. I truly, I, I will walk out and leave. And I'll, I'll take the sign that you signed this time.

• 13:38Speaker 05

  Make sure to include the sump pump.

• 13:40Doug DeMuro?

  Sean's putting together, it's a beautiful tribute.

• 13:44Doug DeMuro?

  Filippo had an obsession with the sump pump.

• 13:46Speaker 04

  It was an issue.

• 13:46Speaker 05

  Place almost flooded and Filippo was manual, manual labor Filippo was fixing it.

• 13:51Speaker 04

  One time we had water issues, we fixed them, we're good.

• 13:53Doug DeMuro?

  Um, and, and this is the end of an era.

• 13:57Speaker 04

  It is an era, I'm so-

• 13:58Doug DeMuro?

  For this podcast, do you think the pod will survive?

• 13:59Speaker 04

  Yes, the pod will survive, we're a hundred twenty, there's episode a hundred twenty-nine.

• 14:03Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, but like, so many of those had Filippo in them and you were like, uh, uh, an important part of it.

• 14:08Speaker 04

  I appreciate that.

• 14:10Doug DeMuro?

  You think Kennon sits there and we keep going? You think, you think Ryan Lopez shows up in that seat?

• 14:15Speaker 04

  Will he show up? That's the real question. No, Ryan's currently on vacation in Italy, which I'm jealous of, and so I'll keep making fun of him.

• 14:21Speaker 05

  I, I am curious, your casting strategy for the pod has always been who is nearest and available at the moment? Are you gonna have an intentional casting strategy or is it just gonna be first person to show up that has bandwidth?

• 14:30Speaker 04

  One day, bring your kids, they'll be on it.

• 14:32Doug DeMuro?

  The thing that I've learned is this, the way that this pod, the reason this pod has taken off so much is a serious response to your joking question. The, the way that this pod has taken off so much is because despite some inputs from some other people making some suggestions about who we should cast.

• 14:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 14:48Doug DeMuro?

  It became clear to me that it was gonna be great if we just had our friends talking about friends' stuff. And the audience has so clearly glommed on to the fact that we are all buddies and like, this is a friend conversation, opposed to some podcasts you see where it's so forced. And so I always knew Filippo would probably eventually leave us and have higher career aspirations than being on our stupid podcast.

• 15:09Speaker 04

  It's the number one podcast.

• 15:10Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, my plan is to have Sean come in, cause he's also our friend and like, you know?

• 15:15Speaker 04

  We gotta make more friends.

• 15:16Doug DeMuro?

  That's, that's where this podcast, that's how this podcast has been successful. And if you're out there in the world trying to think about how to do a podcast, the answer is do it with your friends and also millions of dollars of private equity backing.

• 15:29Doug DeMuro?

  That's the key to our success.

• 15:31Speaker 04

  Both are helpful. Um, I do wanna say on a serious note, it's been an incredible six years. I like, I'm so excited to watch, obviously, and we're all friends and we'll see each other, uh, and Dan, our CEO, and I are very close. Uh, I'm really excited to watch the next phase of growth, which I think will be a really meaningful one.

• 15:47Speaker 05

  Everyone leave your Filippo's the kinda guy comment down below.

• 15:50Speaker 04

  My, my wife did screenshot, somebody early on commented, Filippo's the kinda guy to say, I'm gonna go play video games and just opens up Excel. And, and she like sends that to me sometimes. So you gotta beat that, that, that is your, your bar to beat.

• 16:03Speaker 05

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• 16:47Speaker 05

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• 17:18Speaker 06

  Quick break from this car pod for the AutoZone rescue. We've teamed up with AutoZone and their quality parts to rescue this iconic nineteen eighty-seven Toyota Forerunner that's in dire need of saving. We're bringing it back to life and taking it on the perfect San Diego adventure. Surfing, California burritos, and a little bit of off-roading. For this job, we'll need a wide range of quality parts specific for this thirty-nine year old truck that perform like the original equipment. And that's where AutoZone has us covered. Once it's dialed in, I'll be selling it on Cars and Bids with no reserve, so another enthusiast can love it as much as I'm about to. This is the AutoZone rescue, let's get moving. Speaking of terrifying squeaky noise.

• 17:54Speaker 06

  It's alive, barely. It's been sitting for a while, so like, I'm not too surprised that's running a little rough. First up, spark plugs. I use NGK iridiums in my car, there's no reason for me to deviate here. Great acceleration, better fuel economy, and they hold up well over time. Next up is to swap out the distributor. For this, we're using the Duralast Gold new distributor. It's a brand new distributor, not remanufactured, works right out of the box, no modification needed. Last but not least, time for plug wires. We want Duralast spark plug wires to get the job done. They're efficient, reliable cables that we can count on. Doesn't look that bad, but you can see the edges are cracking here. For this one with STP filters, they're made to last a lifetime and deliver the best performance under the hood. Let's fire it up.

• 18:37Speaker 06

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• 18:54Speaker 01

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• 19:18Doug DeMuro?

  I, what, Nick, do you have any thoughts on the departure of Filippo here?

• 19:21Speaker 04

  I'm sad.

• 19:22Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 19:22Speaker 04

  I'm sad. It is, it is crazy to think Kennon and Filippo not at Cars and Bids.

• 19:28Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 19:28Speaker 04

  But it is great. I mean, you're not leaving San Diego. You're not leaving our friend group. So it doesn't really impact me much.

• 19:35Doug DeMuro?

  You know.

• 19:35Speaker 04

  Other than I'll miss you on the pod.

• 19:36Doug DeMuro?

  I have, Sean is still here, my close personal friend Sean, who edits our videos and sometimes gets emails or who, who produces. We don't know what he does really.

• 19:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's unclear.

• 19:44Doug DeMuro?

  Nick is here. He's my friend.

• 19:46Speaker 04

  We love Nick.

• 19:47Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. Then it's Dan.

• 19:48Speaker 04

  Let's try not to scare him away.

• 19:50Doug DeMuro?

  Dan, our CEO has become a friend. I tried to push it off.

• 19:54Speaker 04

  Dead.

• 19:55Doug DeMuro?

  Did your best. I wanted to be arms length.

• 19:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:58Doug DeMuro?

  But now that you're leaving, here, here we are. The remnants.

• 20:03Speaker 04

  You know, the podcast will be fun. It'll be interesting to transition to listening to the podcast.

• 20:09Doug DeMuro?

  Right.

• 20:09Speaker 04

  Cause I, I mostly listen when I'm not here. But I don't want to hear what I.

• 20:13Doug DeMuro?

  He doesn't listen when he's got, he's watching Spy Kids.

• 20:17Speaker 04

  Sometimes you're watching Spy Kids. Only sometimes there's a discovery and it's great. But I will start listening every week, but it'll be weird to not be on.

• 20:26Doug DeMuro?

  Can't believe he's going to go and work for Ford.

• 20:28Speaker 04

  I can't believe that we've.

• 20:29Doug DeMuro?

  Other automakers, did, did Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram?

• 20:32Speaker 04

  I will be honest, this job appeared and it's one that I'm incredibly excited about and I wasn't otherwise looking at jobs.

• 20:37Doug DeMuro?

  Damn, they got it.

• 20:38Speaker 04

  They got, they got me.

• 20:39Doug DeMuro?

  Like, like, like, you know?

• 20:40Speaker 04

  LinkedIn just kind of works sometimes.

• 20:43Doug DeMuro?

  Like, like a Yoshi in the Super Nintendo Mario game, like.

• 20:46Speaker 04

  You know? With the long tongue, yeah.

• 20:48Doug DeMuro?

  Like that. And then that's the end now.

• 20:50Speaker 04

  Or Flup from the Spy Kids movie.

• 20:54Speaker 04

  Seventeen and a half minutes on this. Can we move on?

• 20:56Doug DeMuro?

  News. We can move on, but you know.

• 20:59Speaker 04

  Filippo's the kind of guy in his offboarding communications has seven different tabs, including for the board, internal, hashtag, general, auto reply and podcast.

• 21:08Doug DeMuro?

  He's doing a board.

• 21:09Speaker 04

  No, it's ready.

• 21:09Doug DeMuro?

  PowerPoint.

• 21:10Speaker 04

  Oh, I can't wait for that. Can you copy me on that? You should see my other offboarding document.

• 21:13Doug DeMuro?

  Okay. I, I want to talk, the next news story is not the next news story. It's the fact that my Porsche 993 Turbo is for sale. Are you, are you, this is another incredibly, or you're still gonna.

• 21:22Speaker 04

  I don't want my phone anymore. Yeah.

• 21:24Doug DeMuro?

  Are you, what makes you sadder? The departure of the 993 Twin Turbo or the departure of you from Cars and Bids?

• 21:32Speaker 04

  I, it's fitting that they coincide. My last day, tomorrow, the 993 goes live.

• 21:39Doug DeMuro?

  Good here is out the door. One week left.

• 21:42Speaker 04

  And, and Nick's selling his Cayenne that same day. It's quite a day.

• 21:46Doug DeMuro?

  Listen, I'm going to make a promise to you people.

• 21:48Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 21:49Doug DeMuro?

  I will buy another Porsche when Filippo returns to Cars and Bids.

• 21:54Speaker 04

  But you'll, you'll keep owning the one you already have.

• 21:55Doug DeMuro?

  The Carrera GT I'm gonna keep.

• 21:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:57Doug DeMuro?

  I will buy it. I'm, I'm off Porsches.

• 21:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:59Doug DeMuro?

  So off Porsches that it like hurts me inside. I will buy another Porsche the day that Filippo comes back to this company.

• 22:06Speaker 04

  So your 993 Turbo is live as your people are washing those. You've owned it for about a year-ish.

• 22:12Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 22:12Speaker 04

  Exactly. I think we should, even though you don't necessarily love the car, I think you like the car.

• 22:16Doug DeMuro?

  No, I loved it for its purpose.

• 22:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. Which is.

• 22:18Doug DeMuro?

  It was a great daily. I think people expect a little too much from that car.

• 22:21Speaker 04

  I agree. It's not worth it.

• 22:23Doug DeMuro?

  Well, things are worth what people pay.

• 22:25Speaker 04

  Much like you opine on my, my Cayenne. It's like a good $12,000 car.

• 22:29Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 22:29Speaker 04

  I, I would buy that for 12 today.

• 22:31Doug DeMuro?

  It's a little rough.

• 22:31Speaker 04

  Should we talk off?

• 22:32Doug DeMuro?

  It's, it's, it's a great, I think the mistake that people make is that they think that it's going to be a GT3.

• 22:40Speaker 04

  Right. They think it's going to be a $200,000 to $300,000 driving experience.

• 22:44Doug DeMuro?

  Well, you know, you say that, but cars have become so expensive. Like, is it maybe a $200,000 driving experience now? Maybe it is.

• 22:50Speaker 04

  Maybe, yeah.

• 22:50Doug DeMuro?

  Now in a world where Ford GTs cost 700, in my mind, I bought, I bought my Ford GT for 225. In my mind, that is still a 225 car. However, in reality, it is not.

• 23:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:00Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 23:00Speaker 04

  I'm with you, dude.

• 23:01Doug DeMuro?

  And so like the world has changed. Regardless of talking about what it's worth, I do think it is a very cool car. I am sad to see it go. The primary reason for selling it truthfully is that I want to get my kids into more like cars. I'm going to try to do a new car every school year for my family. And, um, and if I buy them right and sell them right, I can really kind of not really lose money. And so the kids are outgrowing the, the two-door cars. And so like, it was, it was now or never to get the Supra. And so I did, and I love the Supras.

• 23:29Speaker 04

  I will say your, your 911, I, I do think people put too much, too many aspirations on every 911 Turbo. It is not a track car. The performance is incredible, but it's a comfort.

• 23:39Doug DeMuro?

  Right.

• 23:40Speaker 04

  Which that does well. I love that it started for you. There's like, okay, I could put kids in my car.

• 23:44Doug DeMuro?

  I could put kids in the car, for the kids' first fast car.

• 23:47Speaker 04

  It's so cool for that.

• 23:48Doug DeMuro?

  I also, it's like the one commuter that I've enjoyed sitting in traffic with a manual. I hate going to LA in manual cars because I hate sitting in bumper to bumper in a manual. And that car, I love the feel of that manual so much that it is the one manual car that I willingly do the drive. I have never found another one and the Supra is not. That manual transmission, the smoothness of the clutch and shift, or the way they feel, the bottom hinge and just the inputs are so perfect. But, um, and I drove it 3,200 miles in a year, which I think is more than I drove any of my other special cars the last year. And I took it to LA a bunch. I took the kids around it a ton and I just, it's just, I can't, I can't have, I have 10 cars right now. I, I can't anymore. And so it's time.

• 24:28Speaker 04

  It's nice to look at too.

• 24:29Doug DeMuro?

  It's beautiful. My wife says that it is the most beautiful car I have ever owned in her mind.

• 24:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:33Doug DeMuro?

  I've had 42 cars and she says it's the most beautiful car I've ever.

• 24:37Speaker 04

  I mean, it definitely is up there. I love it. I, I will miss seeing it. I somehow never drove it. You offered and I just like didn't.

• 24:44Doug DeMuro?

  It was a mistake. I think this car is very you.

• 24:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:46Doug DeMuro?

  I, I don't necessarily know that you'd ever drop 250 on a Turbo.

• 24:49Speaker 04

  No.

• 24:49Doug DeMuro?

  But I could see you absolutely in a narrow body, which is.

• 24:52Speaker 04

  Most of the same experience.

• 24:53Doug DeMuro?

  Yep.

• 24:54Speaker 04

  Some of those are wide body, 911 men.

• 24:56Doug DeMuro?

  Well, the wide bodies are just as expensive as the Turbo.

• 24:59Speaker 04

  The C4Ss are big money. Like it's not much more, but I guess you're buying for the look more than like the raw power, but.

• 25:06Doug DeMuro?

  They're also, the, the 993 nerds are like, the C4S is actually technically the one you want because blah, blah, blah.

• 25:11Speaker 04

  I, I didn't pay attention to any of it. I wanted one of these. I bought one of these. I don't get into the whole fandom. A buddy, a buddy was like, I'm going to spend 190 on a C4S 993. And I'm like, just spend a little bit more and get the one you want. And he, he bought the C4S.

• 25:24Doug DeMuro?

  I am sad that I will lose out on a driver level, arena red, like kills bugs fast. Like this is the car. I wanted one of these forever, but I also used it every chance I could for a year. And now I'm on to the next, also really cool, the Mark IV Supra, which is another kind of poster car from my era and it's, that's that.

• 25:41Speaker 04

  One year's a good run. That was the right amount.

• 25:43Doug DeMuro?

  One year and 3,200 miles. I mean, I drove it, you know, that's, that's a trip across the country. Like I drove it a real amount to get a feel for it and to know that I loved it, which I do. I put $24,000 into servicing it.

• 25:54Speaker 04

  Holy moly.

• 25:55Doug DeMuro?

  Yep. I think I'll get that back. I think I will not get back sales tax, which.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  But, but I don't know why you're pointing.

• 26:04Speaker 04

  All my cars are registered in California. Thank you very much.

• 26:08Doug DeMuro?

  So that's another, that's another big news story. Filippo's departing, the 993 Twin Turbo is departing.

• 26:13Speaker 04

  Sad.

• 26:14Doug DeMuro?

  It's no reserve.

• 26:15Speaker 04

  Buy it, somebody.

• 26:16Doug DeMuro?

  No. You don't understand this car? But you and me are off Porsches.

• 26:20Speaker 04

  Filippo bid on your G-Cab though.

• 26:21Doug DeMuro?

  I did.

• 26:22Speaker 04

  It was nice.

• 26:22Doug DeMuro?

  Probably bid on this because there was a price.

• 26:23Speaker 04

  For seven grand.

• 26:24Doug DeMuro?

  Which I would buy it. I do not ever plan to buy another Porsche.

• 26:27Speaker 04

  You will buy another Porsche. It just will happen.

• 26:29Doug DeMuro?

  There's none on my list. There are no, none that I'm interested in. I, I, the 996 GT2 maybe, but it does not have backseats, so it's nowhere near. It would be post kids.

• 26:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:39Doug DeMuro?

  Like I have no interest in ever buying another.

• 26:42Speaker 04

  Some not even a Puffy.

• 26:44Doug DeMuro?

  I would consider a 959. Yeah.

• 26:46Speaker 04

  There we go.

• 26:47Doug DeMuro?

  But it would be in my list of cars to spend $3 million on. It's not at the top. It's not at the bottom. It's higher than it would be for you and him, I bet.

• 26:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. I, I don't talk about multimillion dollar cars. That's not, not my market.

• 26:59Doug DeMuro?

  What if they're Puffy?

• 27:00Speaker 04

  That does make it more.

• 27:01Doug DeMuro?

  What if they're like this car, but Puffy? Anyway, that's the other 993 Twin Turbo. All right. Onto the real news today. This.

• 27:09Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 27:10Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. This is called the Mercedes.

• 27:12Speaker 04

  Hold on, I, I practiced it a bunch.

• 27:14Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, man.

• 27:14Speaker 04

  Consulted.

• 27:15Doug DeMuro?

  I'll, I'll wait. Mercedes AMG CLE 646.

• 27:22Speaker 04

  Oh, you've really practiced a lot. Wow.

• 27:24Doug DeMuro?

  That is what German sounds like. For those of you German speakers out there, you think he's joking. That's what we all think of when we hear German.

• 27:31Speaker 04

  That's what Weckback, Dr. Stefan Weckback said on his press. For me, the Mercedes AMG CLE 646. It's the very essence of AMG. The car came out from rational engineers dreamed of a very irrational vehicle.

• 27:46Doug DeMuro?

  Regardless of, it's another example of the Germans thinking they can get away with what the Italians get away with. The Italian, which is so beautiful, anything said in Italian is beautiful. Everything said in German is ugly. However, the car is cool. 640 horsepower, rear wheel drive, only 30 produced like race car version of the CLE, which is essentially the C-Class coupe of the modern era.

• 28:06Speaker 04

  Yep. It is also a flat plane crank. Sounds really cool. The return of V8s back to the C and E-Class cars, which is I think what I, like, they're only going to make 30 of these. Who cares? Like, I doubt any are driven. To me, it reminds me of the Mustang GTD. But it's a sign of what's to come for the C-Class and E-classes, which is back to our V8s. And it's E-Class guys, you can, you can get in on this one. We're pretty pumped about that.

• 28:30Doug DeMuro?

  Erecting EV strategy.

• 28:31Speaker 04

  He's, I know, but he's got an E-Wagon. One of the cool kids.

• 28:35Doug DeMuro?

  I agree that it reminds me of the Mustang GTD, but it is a lot cooler than the Mustang GTD, which we hate.

• 28:40Speaker 04

  It better be, yeah.

• 28:41Doug DeMuro?

  Of course. You know what I mean?

• 28:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true. Just on principle.

• 28:43Doug DeMuro?

  Like, I would love to love the Mustang GTD, but unfortunately, contractually now, this car pod is obligated to hate it.

• 28:50Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 28:50Doug DeMuro?

  So this is better in every possible way.

• 28:53Speaker 04

  It's like the ZR1. It's like a car we like, you know?

• 28:56Doug DeMuro?

  Yes, yes. As opposed to the Ford Windstar, which is a car we now hate.

• 29:01Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 29:01Doug DeMuro?

  Do you think we still have to hate old ones?

• 29:04Speaker 04

  You know what? If you bring back the Conaline van, we'll squash the beef. Then we'll be cool with it.

• 29:08Doug DeMuro?

  I think the Conaline van still exists.

• 29:10Speaker 04

  No, they killed it off.

• 29:11Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, did they?

• 29:11Speaker 04

  Bring it back as an EV.

• 29:12Doug DeMuro?

  Keep track. It's, what do you mean?

• 29:14Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, it's the Transit.

• 29:15Doug DeMuro?

  I apologize.

• 29:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:16Doug DeMuro?

  You're thinking the GMC Savannah.

• 29:17Speaker 04

  I'm gonna get fired before I start. Um, or the Aerostar, yeah.

• 29:20Doug DeMuro?

  The 646, by the way, is what it is in PS. Uh, 430, 637 horsepower. The Mythos. Also, the, the name that, whatever, say it again?

• 29:33Doug DeMuro?

  Means custom made or bespoke or something. I think it is the coolest thing in the world, and I think if they did this as a black series with a run of 500 cars.

• 29:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:40Doug DeMuro?

  And you could get it in the States, that would be really cool.

• 29:43Speaker 04

  30 seems really limited. It's also, it's got KW coilovers and acropobic exhaust. Like, it feels like something me and DC Motorworks would make in Atlanta, you know?

• 29:52Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, it's cool as hell. I think people are like, oh, it's only 30 made on a zillion dollars. It's a car for rich guys. That's all true, but it is, I think it's coolest. The fact that they're even doing stuff like this when they should be focusing on EVs.

• 30:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, or like, literally anything else, like.

• 30:07Doug DeMuro?

  You know, there's a war in Ukraine, for God's sake. They're out here making this stuff. Um, I love it. I love it dearly.

• 30:13Speaker 04

  I do too.

• 30:14Doug DeMuro?

  And I wish that I could get one in the States with a three pedal manual.

• 30:17Speaker 04

  Doesn't it? It so looks like a SEMA car, though. Like, that, those rear haunches.

• 30:22Doug DeMuro?

  In a cool way, like, it looks like an OE SEMA car, which is cool. It looks like the GTD, honestly, which also has that look. I will say, I was driving around the GTD in Palm Springs, maybe I said this on the pod years ago, and I got the feeling that people looked at me and were like, that guy modded his Mustang.

• 30:35Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 30:36Doug DeMuro?

  And I think that that's what people would think when you're driving.

• 30:38Speaker 04

  And you see a lot of those out by 29 Palms.

• 30:40Doug DeMuro?

  Yes, yeah, I know. In Palm Springs, people are like, another modded Mustang.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that, I would absolutely assume, okay, that guy got that body kit on eBay, and it's probably hanging together by zip ties, but.

• 30:50Doug DeMuro?

  Well, no.

• 30:51Speaker 04

  This will be really cool.

• 30:52Doug DeMuro?

  Cool as hell. Uh, and I'm pumped for it.

• 30:55Speaker 04

  It's a good, it's their Mythos series, and they have one other car in that, some like SLS Roadster, single hoop thing.

• 31:03Doug DeMuro?

  You're aware of this, Nick?

• 31:04Speaker 04

  The Mythos series?

• 31:05Doug DeMuro?

  Loosely aware of it.

• 31:06Speaker 04

  Some sort of special series.

• 31:08Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, this is a way cooler one than an AMG GT or whatever they call it, basically.

• 31:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I'm seri-, if this had been a black series with a 500 unit run, oh, how cool.

• 31:17Doug DeMuro?

  I'm surprised it's not. Why is it?

• 31:18Speaker 04

  Probably will become.

• 31:20Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, Mythos series. I wonder if the 30 number has to do with some sort of, remember, we've been told repeatedly that they can't get V8s legal in Europe.

• 31:26Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 31:27Doug DeMuro?

  And now here's a V8 that they're doing legal in Europe. I wonder if, like, they have to keep it insanely low production just to make that work.

• 31:32Speaker 04

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• 32:13Speaker 04

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• 33:36Doug DeMuro?

  The Tesla Roadster is coming back. It's gonna be revealed on October 1st.

• 33:40Speaker 04

  Yep, alright.

• 33:41Doug DeMuro?

  It may fly.

• 33:42Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 33:43Doug DeMuro?

  It may fly.

• 33:44Speaker 04

  That, that is what it was. It's coming October 1st. Everyone, hold your breath and, uh.

• 33:48Doug DeMuro?

  Okay.

• 33:49Speaker 04

  Get ready to cash in those deposits you put down 17 years ago.

• 33:52Doug DeMuro?

  2017, nine years ago. It was announced in November of 2017.

• 33:57Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 33:58Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. Nine years ago.

• 33:59Speaker 04

  Yep, it was supposed to go on sale then, and then.

• 34:02Doug DeMuro?

  It was supposed to go on sale in 20.

• 34:04Speaker 04

  Earlier this year, he said it would be out in April of this year. Wasn't.

• 34:08Doug DeMuro?

  Why is it taking so long?

• 34:10Speaker 04

  Well, they don't build cars anymore. They build mobility vehicles.

• 34:14Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, but they build that heinous pickup truck.

• 34:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:18Doug DeMuro?

  And they build a lot of, they build, here's, here's the thing that surprises me. It looks like the Model 3, but like, slightly different bodywork. Why did it take nine years?

• 34:27Speaker 04

  Cause they made a lot of statements about what it could do. For example, they said it could fly, and it could go 0-160 in under two seconds and have some unreal range.

• 34:34Doug DeMuro?

  Is not even special anymore.

• 34:35Speaker 04

  It's supposed to have like, like jet packs on the back?

• 34:38Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, it's supposed to have the SpaceX package that has cold gas thrusters that are super chilled and give, like.

• 34:43Speaker 04

  What I want in an EV is a gas thruster, you know what I mean?

• 34:46Doug DeMuro?

  They promised that they would.

• 34:47Speaker 04

  Cold gas.

• 34:48Doug DeMuro?

  They promised that they would do 0-160 in under two seconds. They took 10 years to come out with the car. In the meantime, they themselves made a car that does 0-160 in under two seconds, the Model S Plaid. This car was so delayed that they beat it themselves with another car.

• 35:01Speaker 04

  It was also supposed to be four seats somehow, uh, and, uh, 620 miles of range.

• 35:06Doug DeMuro?

  620 miles of range?

• 35:08Speaker 04

  I suspect that none of that could be true.

• 35:09Doug DeMuro?

  What's it gonna cost? I'll buy it at 620 miles of range.

• 35:12Speaker 04

  What it was revealed, it was gonna be $200,000. But I suspect that will not be the case. I also don't know what they will show, uh, at this October 1st event in Texas.

• 35:21Doug DeMuro?

  So, this car's gonna, it's gonna finally come out any day now.

• 35:25Speaker 04

  Any day. Yeah, we're all, we're all waiting.

• 35:27Doug DeMuro?

  They're coming up on 10 years of this vaporware trash.

• 35:30Speaker 04

  The teaser image has like a huge wing upside down, but a huge wing. And so maybe it'll be like this, but with a giant wing.

• 35:37Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, maybe that's like the next phase of the whole thing. Don't you think this looks a little Aston Martin 177?

• 35:42Speaker 04

  Kind, yeah, it's, it's a nice, it's a nice design.

• 35:45Doug DeMuro?

  Maybe they should have come out with an Aston Martin 177.

• 35:47Speaker 04

  Don't you kind of worry that still there's not been one single successful two-door EV? Like a sports car EV?

• 35:53Doug DeMuro?

  Uh.

• 35:54Speaker 04

  I mean, Monte Remach would tell you.

• 35:56Doug DeMuro?

  For Gores, as otherwise.

• 35:57Speaker 04

  Remach's entire strategy was, this isn't working, we're gonna pivot.

• 36:00Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, no, disagree.

• 36:03Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 36:03Doug DeMuro?

  Polestar one. Oh, it wasn't an EV, my bad.

• 36:08Speaker 04

  Did you forget?

• 36:10Doug DeMuro?

  The, uh, yeah, obviously. It's funny because it's in the.

• 36:13Speaker 04

  I mean, I would have delayed it, but not due to it being hard to engineer, just be like.

• 36:17Doug DeMuro?

  The fact no one wants it.

• 36:17Speaker 04

  Sheldon.

• 36:18Doug DeMuro?

  When, when this car was first revealed, they didn't know that the two-door EVs wouldn't succeed. However, since then, there have been several automakers who have attempted to make two-door supercar EVs, which this was, at that price point, at that product, at that, at that performance level. They've all failed.

• 36:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:31Doug DeMuro?

  Unequivocally. I mean, it's all been a disaster.

• 36:33Speaker 04

  Right.

• 36:34Doug DeMuro?

  And yet, here we are, still talking about.

• 36:35Speaker 04

  They kind of succeeded with the Tesla Roadster, the first one.

• 36:37Doug DeMuro?

  What? You think that was a success? There's one in space?

• 36:42Speaker 04

  I mean, it was a success in that it launched the company, and it's now become a bigger market cap than like, any of the other big four somehow.

• 36:48Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, but they could have just not produced that car and probably launched later with the Model 3.

• 36:53Speaker 04

  Yep. Skip the SNX.

• 36:56Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, the S came first.

• 36:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, S came first by a long time. It's interesting, this styling was very modern and futuristic in 2017, and now it does just look like the Model 3. Yeah, I, I'm just, I'm surprised that they're still launching this.

• 37:08Doug DeMuro?

  By the way, it's not what they're showing necessarily. We don't know what they're showing.

• 37:11Speaker 04

  You know what? I don't care what they're showing. I'm over it all. I, I've also heard that they, there's the rumors of the Cyber SUV. And actually, the renders that I saw made it, it looked a lot better as an SUV than it does as a.

• 37:22Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, I believe that. You think the Cyber, they're gonna do a Cybertruck SUV?

• 37:26Speaker 04

  I, I mean, it's as equally as a bad idea as a.

• 37:29Doug DeMuro?

  They have otherwise made pretty clear that they're not really investing in their car product lineup, the, the Cyber.

• 37:35Speaker 04

  They're switching to robots and.

• 37:37Doug DeMuro?

  And other robot things, because they think that the future is not self-owned or individually owned automobiles. Man, so it's like over. Like, that short run, like where Tesla was a thing and like, if you were like moderately successful, you got one and then drove poorly. That's over.

• 37:51Speaker 04

  No, no, they're still driving poorly.

• 37:52Doug DeMuro?

  They are still driving poorly. It is wild. Tesla drivers are unquestionably the worst drivers on the road. The car's self-driving, they're still terrible drivers. How do you explain it?

• 38:00Speaker 04

  I, I think it like a naval son. I think they're like, oh, it's not my responsibility anymore, and then they get like kind of rusty at it.

• 38:06Doug DeMuro?

  And so then when they do take over, it's. I think that it's everybody's first cool car. You know what I mean? Like it's affordable, cool car. It's an affordable, fast car. Everybody's like, I got a cool car. I got a Tesla. Even though yesterday afternoon I was in high school, you know? Yeah. And so then they don't know how to drive because they don't know how to drive a fast car. And so they're like zipping around. Fast.

• 38:25Speaker 05

  And, and practicing and channeling my inner Filippo here once he's gone.

• 38:28Doug DeMuro?

  So let's see it.

• 38:29Speaker 05

  There's a website, Cars and Bids, that sells used Model 3s for super cheap.

• 38:33Doug DeMuro?

  Is that true?

• 38:33Speaker 05

  It is now.

• 38:34Doug DeMuro?

  When was the last time we sold it? We, I know we sell the good stuff, but do we still sell Model 3s ever?

• 38:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, you do. And, and they go for like.

• 38:41Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, we got a Plaid on right now.

• 38:42Speaker 05

  Yeah. Okay. You sold a Model S 90D for 12.

• 38:45Doug DeMuro?

  Not a lot of Model 3s.

• 38:46Speaker 04

  The, this, the Cybertruck that we sold last week, 65 is the most F100 Cybertruck go for in a while.

• 38:51Speaker 05

  They floored. A Plaid for 51.

• 38:53Doug DeMuro?

  Dude, Plads are.

• 38:54Speaker 05

  A Model S there for 14, 12, X is for 24. I mean, they're so cheap now to the point where, yeah, it is like the best way to.

• 39:01Doug DeMuro?

  Oh.

• 39:02Speaker 05

  Flex.

• 39:02Doug DeMuro?

  Why didn't you buy that?

• 39:03Speaker 05

  9,700? Wow.

• 39:04Speaker 04

  Does it have a third row?

• 39:06Doug DeMuro?

  Why didn't you buy this?

• 39:08Speaker 05

  I, I don't know. It is compelling. And you're right, it did have a rear facing third row.

• 39:13Speaker 04

  No, this one didn't though. It's pretty rare.

• 39:14Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, it is rare. Okay. Uh, we got to move on to our next news story, which is.

• 39:19Speaker 05

  The Artura.

• 39:19Doug DeMuro?

  This is the most bizarre news story I've ever heard in my life. You told me today, you came in and said the Artura is being canceled.

• 39:24Speaker 05

  It's dead. It's not an officially confirmed thing, however, widely reported on that it'll be the final model year.

• 39:29Doug DeMuro?

  Barely knew that it was out.

• 39:31Speaker 05

  It's been out six years.

• 39:32Doug DeMuro?

  That's true.

• 39:33Speaker 05

  I thought it was revealed. 2022 it came out.

• 39:34Doug DeMuro?

  It was revealed, but then it didn't go on sale for a while.

• 39:37Speaker 05

  There were some issues with the early production. And so it was like kind of out, but not really.

• 39:40Doug DeMuro?

  Forever to get it to market. I've never seen one. I, I. Would you know if you saw one?

• 39:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, no. I'm seeing them around more. I, I think they look really nice. I'm sad it never really, like in terms of their entire model lineup, I think it's the best looking they offer. Of, of the non like.

• 39:54Doug DeMuro?

  Are you trolling? It looks the same. What do you mean? It's identical to all the others? Are you, are you screwing me?

• 39:58Speaker 05

  No, I'm dead serious. They.

• 39:59Doug DeMuro?

  What makes it look better than anything else?

• 40:01Speaker 05

  It's like their best revision of the same design. You know what I mean? Like usually when, when automakers like, like try to take the Ian Callum design at Aston and like. iterate and iterate and it just kind of gets busier over time. I feel like this was them nailing it and like getting the styling perfect. But then the car launch was such a flop that it never really.

• 40:18Doug DeMuro?

  It really was a flop launch. I was there more or less and I filmed it at a dealership early on and it, we, we did all these, all these things with it. We, you know, I, it was like before it came out, it was like a pre-production car. It was, I had come into the dealership after hours to make this video. It was a really big deal to new McLaren. And then I did the video and it was like two and a half years before the car actually got on sale.

• 40:38Speaker 04

  They had a lot of quality issues. They, they stopped production for a while to retool or something.

• 40:43Speaker 05

  And I think all of those rumors and news stories really then squashed all the buyer confidence because they already knew buying a McLaren is a little roll of the dice. And then the fact that this is the troubled McLaren from the get-go, like it, it made it a hard sell.

• 40:55Speaker 04

  It's also the first non P1 hybrid.

• 40:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 40:58Speaker 04

  Uh, although I will say there's apparently going to be a replacement for it that is revealed next year. That's codename P34. And that will also have a twin turbo V6 made a two.

• 41:07Speaker 05

  You know, 800 horsepower hybrid.

• 41:09Doug DeMuro?

  You know what the problem also is, truthfully? The 720S is so desirable and also depreciating quickly.

• 41:17Speaker 05

  They're gettable.

• 41:17Doug DeMuro?

  And McLaren buyers, even new ones, are not.

• 41:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 41:21Doug DeMuro?

  They're not willing, they're, they're, they're not immune to buying a used car. They're all nuts, right? Like, so they're like, yeah, okay, it's cheap. Let's, the 720S is even, is the same price. It looks better. It's faster. Let's go for that.

• 41:32Speaker 05

  Yep. There was also, remember the GT was on sale around the same time? And those got cheap for a minute because there wasn't great demand. So the, the dealers were offering a lot on the hood to take those home. So I think it was like.

• 41:42Doug DeMuro?

  McLaren GT.

• 41:42Speaker 05

  It's like, if you wanted the cheap new McLaren, you would get something different. And if you wanted the fastest McLaren, you would get something different. It was like kind of stuck in between.

• 41:50Doug DeMuro?

  It would just seem like it was an entry car though, like a 458 or whatever. But I guess the thing about those cars is they've all gotten so expensive that you can't, McLaren has a harder. When the cars were 250 when they were making the MP412C, it was a lot easier sell than now at 400 or whatever, fully stickered. You got a real competition there.

• 42:06Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 42:06Speaker 04

  A lot of money to have people to pay. The replacement will be more powerful, about 200 more horsepower is what we're expecting, uh, which will be pretty cool. And there is a replacement. They're continuing with this trend, just this model didn't have a long life cycle, unlike every other McLaren.

• 42:19Speaker 05

  And now that we can't buy Fords, it's higher on our list.

• 42:21Speaker 04

  Uh, I will say the other, there's another piece of McLaren news, which is that they're apparently making an EV for 2028, sorry. A SUV for a 2028 launch.

• 42:31Doug DeMuro?

  Would you rather have a new Ford GT or one of these?

• 42:35Speaker 05

  New Ford GT.

• 42:36Doug DeMuro?

  Do I get it?

• 42:36Speaker 05

  Price difference or no?

• 42:37Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. I don't think there's that much of a price difference.

• 42:40Speaker 05

  Strictly financially.

• 42:41Doug DeMuro?

  These are like 400, new Ford GT, you can get one for like 650. So it's like 250.

• 42:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:48Doug DeMuro?

  Do you get it in cash? Is that what you're asking?

• 42:49Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:50Doug DeMuro?

  It's not like it's a million bucks versus 200.

• 42:53Speaker 05

  It's, it's close.

• 42:54Doug DeMuro?

  Well, what do you prefer? What do you prefer is what I'm asking. Like is the, is the cash, would that be the, the thing that changes your opinion?

• 43:00Speaker 05

  I would, I would want an Artura with the difference of value and the cash and small unmarked bills in the front.

• 43:06Speaker 04

  Also, an Artura just, you know, starts at 255.

• 43:08Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, but come on. We all know what these cars.

• 43:10Speaker 04

  Fine, option to 300. Do you think?

• 43:12Doug DeMuro?

  There's no option to 300.

• 43:13Speaker 05

  350 cars all day. Rebated back.

• 43:15Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 43:17Speaker 05

  The least creatively.

• 43:18Doug DeMuro?

  But anyway, okay, taking money out of it, because apparently that's an enormous factor. I'm just trying to say, what would you rather have?

• 43:25Speaker 04

  Uh, all things considered, a new Ford GT.

• 43:27Speaker 05

  He, he has to say Ford.

• 43:29Doug DeMuro?

  No, I don't think. Oh, you forgot about, come on. Totally forgot.

• 43:32Speaker 04

  I don't say Ford, but it's such a more, if I'm getting one for free, it's such a more interesting car.

• 43:37Doug DeMuro?

  This is an Artura?

• 43:38Speaker 04

  The Artura sold for 157.

• 43:39Speaker 05

  Love that color.

• 43:40Speaker 04

  Month and a half ago.

• 43:40Doug DeMuro?

  157?

• 43:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, the, the price, the value retention is not significant.

• 43:45Speaker 05

  I'm in at 157 and I could buy that Traverse in the background too.

• 43:50Speaker 04

  I'm so proud of you for knowing that was a Traverse.

• 43:52Doug DeMuro?

  For 163, you could have them both.

• 43:54Speaker 04

  Right. Sticker was 272.

• 43:56Doug DeMuro?

  Oh my God.

• 43:57Speaker 04

  It, it had 10,000 miles.

• 43:59Speaker 05

  That's a cool color.

• 44:00Doug DeMuro?

  When did we sell this?

• 44:01Speaker 05

  Dude, and things still under warranty.

• 44:02Doug DeMuro?

  This is a two and a half year old car. It lost a hundred thousand dollars in value.

• 44:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 44:07Doug DeMuro?

  I'm going to talk about my G-Wagon, by the way. We're going to get to that.

• 44:10Speaker 04

  Uh, but regardless, I would rather have a new car that's 4X the value than this. Yes.

• 44:15Doug DeMuro?

  No, but pretend money, my point was.

• 44:17Speaker 05

  Pretend you don't work for Ford.

• 44:18Doug DeMuro?

  Money wasn't an object. What would you rather have?

• 44:20Speaker 04

  Uh, a new Ford GT is not usable, but I do think it's cooler.

• 44:24Doug DeMuro?

  I agree. But so which one do you rather have? I think that's exactly the point.

• 44:27Speaker 04

  I'd still rather have a new Ford GT.

• 44:28Doug DeMuro?

  Really?

• 44:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:28Doug DeMuro?

  Even though it's like not usable.

• 44:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:30Doug DeMuro?

  It's not usable.

• 44:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know. If Filippo and I switched bodies like a Freaky Friday.

• 44:35Doug DeMuro?

  Yep.

• 44:36Speaker 05

  And I were leaving Cars and Bids, I would be starting my own course on how I scaled Cars and Bids and so how I sold. $40 billion of used cars and I would sell it to everyone and I would drive this in orange.

• 44:47Doug DeMuro?

  Yep.

• 44:48Speaker 04

  Yep, that's what you do.

• 44:48Doug DeMuro?

  That's exactly what.

• 44:49Speaker 04

  Uh, are you excited for their new SUV?

• 44:51Doug DeMuro?

  Yes.

• 44:52Speaker 04

  Cause McLaren said like six years ago, they're not building an SUV ever and now they're.

• 44:56Doug DeMuro?

  Well, remember Ferrari, Sergio Marchionne said, you can build an SUV over my dead body. And then he died.

• 45:00Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 45:00Doug DeMuro?

  And they built one. Eventually then it all comes to fruition. I am so excited for it. I have not hated all of the SUVs. I like the Puro Signo. I think it drives amazingly. I think the Cayenne is awesome. Nick's selling a rough one on the site right now. I think that.

• 45:17Speaker 05

  It's a beautiful one and it'll be sold by.

• 45:18Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, it'll be done. You're good. I, uh, I love, I, I don't hate the Cullinan. I love the Benteke.

• 45:24Speaker 05

  What about the Urus?

• 45:26Doug DeMuro?

  The Urus, for what? It's done for Lambo. Let them have it.

• 45:29Speaker 05

  The, the McLaren SUV and the Urus will be the two closest competitors.

• 45:32Doug DeMuro?

  The McLaren SUV, can you imagine the people who are going to drive those?

• 45:35Speaker 05

  I know.

• 45:36Doug DeMuro?

  Oh.

• 45:36Speaker 05

  Miami is going to be flooded.

• 45:38Doug DeMuro?

  Oh God, it's going to be so deep Florida.

• 45:41Speaker 05

  And they're, they're going to go and they're going to be like, all right, what credit card point system are you playing? And did you buy the McLaren SUV or the Lambo SUV?

• 45:48Doug DeMuro?

  That's exactly what it's going to be like. Uh, next news story, please.

• 45:51Speaker 05

  All right.

• 45:52Doug DeMuro?

  Land Rover.

• 45:53Speaker 04

  Apparently, we talked a couple of weeks ago about how, uh, Land Rover was probably partnering with Stellantis to build some cars in the US.

• 45:59Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 46:00Speaker 04

  There's news this week that the first car they will build together is a Defender pickup trucks.

• 46:04Doug DeMuro?

  I, I want to be clear about two things. First off, it's first and last.

• 46:08Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 46:09Doug DeMuro?

  There's no way that a Land Rover Chrysler partnership produces multiple cars.

• 46:16Doug DeMuro?

  These people, it's like, it's like a group of, a group of insane people and a group of insane people. You know, it's like when two insane people get married and have an insane child. Anyway.

• 46:26Speaker 05

  Stop talking about me. We're not bringing my wife into this, okay?

• 46:33Doug DeMuro?

  So you're talking about your parents. But anyway, um, but it makes sense to do a truck. It makes sense for this to be the only vehicle that comes out of this partnership because, well, sure.

• 46:42Speaker 05

  Guarantee for it to fail.

• 46:43Doug DeMuro?

  The chicken tax means that you basically, if you're going to do a truck, you have to build it in North America.

• 46:48Speaker 05

  Uh, you have to just build it in the US now, if I want to be honest.

• 46:51Doug DeMuro?

  Oh yeah, that's right. Tariff, they tariffed everything else. God, I, anyway, um, you have to build it in the United States. And so it makes sense that they're going to do that. I just, a Land Rover built by Chrysler.

• 47:02Speaker 04

  A Stellantis.

• 47:02Doug DeMuro?

  This car will not move under its own power.

• 47:06Speaker 04

  Stellantis, if it makes you feel better, it will help with the development as well.

• 47:10Doug DeMuro?

  I mean, so they're helping, helping Land Rover develop.

• 47:13Speaker 05

  Dude, I mean, they were helping Lambo build Diablo's in the 90s. All right. Like they, they've been known to do a thing or two.

• 47:19Doug DeMuro?

  Does that bother you, Filippo?

• 47:20Speaker 04

  That they built Diablo's? No.

• 47:22Doug DeMuro?

  Did, but you ever think about that?

• 47:24Speaker 04

  It's wild, isn't it?

• 47:25Speaker 05

  It is.

• 47:25Speaker 04

  There, there was an era though, when all automakers, in fact, just kind of worked together at some point or another.

• 47:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, bring back the Premier Auto Group.

• 47:31Doug DeMuro?

  Pull up, pull up a picture, if you will, of the, of the Dodge, the, the, the second generation Dodge Dakota. No, on the site. I'm, I'm sure.

• 47:38Speaker 05

  Oh, sure. Okay. I thought you were going to ask for Diablo.

• 47:40Doug DeMuro?

  Type in Dakota and I'll tell you which one to go for. Uh, go down, go down. Good. Yeah, that one. No, this one. Do this one here. I want.

• 47:47Speaker 05

  Can I not do this?

• 47:48Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:49Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, with the.

• 47:49Doug DeMuro?

  The man who designed this car designed the Lamborghini Diablo.

• 47:54Speaker 05

  Whoa.

• 47:56Speaker 04

  This is a better design.

• 47:57Speaker 05

  Don't you think he should have pulled up a?

• 47:58Speaker 04

  I mean that too.

• 47:59Doug DeMuro?

  The man who designed this car, his name is Tom Gale, and he designed the Lamborghini Diablo. I want that to be known. A lot of people think Gandini did the Diablo. I vehemently do not think that he did. If you look at the whole history, that is not how it went down. But as Gandini's legend rose, they decided to, late in the Diablo's run, put his name on it. But he designed a proto Diablo that looked nothing like the actual car. Instead Chrysler came in with Tom Gale, designer of the 1997 Dakota, and they said, please make something look cool. And he gave us the Diablo, which looked cool.

• 48:35Speaker 05

  You know what's wild? So you could get the Dakota with a 5.9 liter V8, which is bigger than the Diablo. However, guess, guess the horsepower and the quarter mile.

• 48:45Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, it was, the 5.9 in the Dakota was 200 and, hang on.

• 48:50Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 48:51Doug DeMuro?

  Um, 245 horsepower?

• 48:54Speaker 05

  50 is what Google's saying, but yeah.

• 48:56Doug DeMuro?

  And the quarter, I mean, it was the 5.9 RT. Quarter was in 15.5?

• 49:00Speaker 05

  Exactly 15.5, yeah.

• 49:01Speaker 04

  Well done.

• 49:02Speaker 05

  Nicely done.

• 49:02Speaker 04

  Well done.

• 49:04Speaker 05

  But like, that's, that's wild to have that big of a motor and do it that slowly by today.

• 49:09Doug DeMuro?

  Well, but it was a torque motor. We have one right there. That's a 5.9 RT Dakota.

• 49:13Speaker 04

  I, this is a great design.

• 49:15Doug DeMuro?

  Tom Gale.

• 49:16Speaker 04

  I, I was visiting my brother-in-law in Seattle a couple of weeks ago, and we saw a Ram from this generation.

• 49:22Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 49:22Speaker 04

  I went on like a long.

• 49:23Doug DeMuro?

  They're great.

• 49:25Speaker 04

  rant about how those redefined pickup trucks in America.

• 49:28Doug DeMuro?

  They totally did.

• 49:29Speaker 04

  And are just.

• 49:30Doug DeMuro?

  He, Tom Gale designed the Ram too. And the Viper and the Stealth. I mean.

• 49:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:35Doug DeMuro?

  The thing Chrysler had going for it was design.

• 49:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:39Doug DeMuro?

  Everything else was crap. They built trash cars, right? But, but they had design going for it. It's this body.

• 49:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I swear we had one with incredible photos.

• 49:49Doug DeMuro?

  Those are pretty good, honestly. The trailer mirrors that one down there.

• 49:51Speaker 04

  Look at that.

• 49:52Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 49:52Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 49:52Speaker 04

  Look at that.

• 49:53Speaker 05

  What a truck.

• 49:54Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, it, it did change trucks in the, in, in North America. It allowed for some personality, whereas trucks previously had basically been.

• 50:02Speaker 04

  They're square and then like, let's make them look like semi trucks. And now they all.

• 50:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 50:08Speaker 04

  Truly.

• 50:08Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, they threw fenders on it and, and, and a, and a specialized grill. And it was like Ford was sudden and was like, oh.

• 50:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 50:15Doug DeMuro?

  And then they came out with that heinous F-150 in 97.

• 50:20Speaker 04

  I didn't think it looked bad.

• 50:22Doug DeMuro?

  The 97 F-150?

• 50:24Speaker 05

  It was not well received when it came out. Let's also, let's leave it at that.

• 50:28Speaker 04

  Some crash issues.

• 50:29Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, well, they all did it this time. Anyway, the point is, the point is, Tom Gale, he did both.

• 50:34Speaker 04

  Icon.

• 50:35Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, and Chrysler, and that was the last time Chrysler hooked up with the Europeans, and it went horribly, by the way. We got a buddy with a Diablo.

• 50:42Speaker 04

  Phew. Yeah. Uh, this, by the way, was still likely to be years from happening. So I'm sure it will be a different, I wouldn't be surprised.

• 50:49Speaker 05

  Won't the Defender be kind of done by then?

• 50:51Speaker 04

  It might be the next generation.

• 50:52Speaker 05

  It came out, what, 2020?

• 50:53Speaker 04

  20. It might be the next generation Defender that it's based on. Who knows? Could just be based on a Ram. Who knows?

• 50:58Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, it might just be like a, the next gen Dakota. Honestly, it wouldn't shock me if that's what they do because they've been talking about how they want to do a next gen Dakota. And the Defender is midsize pickup size, so maybe that's how it's all going to shake down, which would be horrible, but not worse than a Chrysler Land Rover combo plan.

• 51:14Doug DeMuro?

  Next one, please.

• 51:16Speaker 04

  What is it? Volvo XC90.

• 51:18Speaker 05

  This, this one is.

• 51:20Doug DeMuro?

  I'm going to, for those of you who don't listen every week, Nick thought about buying an XC90. Instead, he bought a Kia Sorento in some sort of off green.

• 51:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 51:27Doug DeMuro?

  And he's regretted it ever since and.

• 51:30Speaker 05

  We see XC90s everywhere.

• 51:32Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 51:32Speaker 05

  Just taunting us. And part of the reason we went this route was on paper, they were, you know, about 31 miles of EV range, regardless of whether you got Kia or the Volvo. And so you're like, okay, well, like on paper, they're comparable. We can live without the luxury brand and maybe some slightly less nice interior appointments.

• 51:48Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 51:48Speaker 05

  Yada, yada, yada. Volvo just announced the XC60 and 90 are getting double the EV range in their plug-in hybrids, from 31 miles to.

• 51:56Speaker 04

  70.

• 51:56Speaker 05

  73, I think, on the 90 and 71 on the, or sorry, the other way around. Yep. 71.

• 52:02Doug DeMuro?

  Big, big number, honestly.

• 52:03Speaker 05

  Huge.

• 52:03Doug DeMuro?

  Is that the highest plug-in hybrid?

• 52:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, and the, so the, the executive said basically, the average distance someone drives in a day is 22 miles. So technically 31 should be sufficient, but at 70 something, you're never going to use.

• 52:15Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, I mean, you'll end up spending, getting 1,000, 2,000 miles per tank of fuel.

• 52:18Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 52:19Doug DeMuro?

  Um, the XC90 is a fantastic car, a really nice, great automobile.

• 52:23Speaker 05

  For this consumer advice.

• 52:24Doug DeMuro?

  Really a wonderful, wonderful car. Uh, really, really a superb and excellent luxurious, comfortable, high-class, high-quality automobile. It looks good.

• 52:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, and, and our text thread, three weeks ago, you're like, oh, no one would buy that. It depreciates.

• 52:39Doug DeMuro?

  He wanted to buy one of these things.

• 52:42Speaker 05

  My G-Cab went up 37 cents a mile over 36 years.

• 52:46Doug DeMuro?

  It was a dollar, it was a dollar and nine cents a mile over eight years.

• 52:50Speaker 05

  Uh huh.

• 52:51Doug DeMuro?

  And you were looking at XC90s that in two years were going to cost 1,100.

• 52:55Speaker 05

  Let me tell you what, my trade-in offers on the Kia Sorento, I've lost 10 grand on the car already, so.

• 53:01Doug DeMuro?

  Maybe don't sell it.

• 53:02Speaker 05

  Anyway.

• 53:02Doug DeMuro?

  Don't sell it.

• 53:03Speaker 04

  You don't sell it?

• 53:04Speaker 05

  We're not, we're not. I just got actual license plates on it.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  Oh, that, that helps.

• 53:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 53:08Doug DeMuro?

  Damn, you got the new format?

• 53:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 53:10Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, look at you.

• 53:11Speaker 05

  002A something.

• 53:12Doug DeMuro?

  You're joking. You're 002A?

• 53:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 53:15Doug DeMuro?

  But.

• 53:15Speaker 05

  I know that.

• 53:16Doug DeMuro?

  002 is now the series.

• 53:17Speaker 04

  I know, but that's a good plate.

• 53:18Doug DeMuro?

  I'm proud of you, Nick. I am so proud of you. You have, you've turned over a new leaf.

• 53:24Doug DeMuro?

  You're a Kia man now. We've been Kia men. We've both owned Kias. The three of us are Kia owners.

• 53:28Speaker 05

  I lowballed a guy over Instagram yesterday for a, a L460 with third row.

• 53:34Doug DeMuro?

  Nick.

• 53:34Speaker 05

  And he has steel bumpers. It's tight.

• 53:36Doug DeMuro?

  Nick.

• 53:37Speaker 05

  Tight.

• 53:38Doug DeMuro?

  Nick. Why are you not thinking about Defender?

• 53:40Speaker 05

  Dude wants like 80 something now.

• 53:42Speaker 04

  We can't engage.

• 53:43Doug DeMuro?

  You know what?

• 53:43Speaker 04

  Uh, by the way, the XC60 also has a facelift. Uh, it looks slightly different now.

• 53:49Speaker 05

  Slightly.

• 53:49Speaker 04

  Also, the, the TA is the only one that has this. The other trims are mild hybrid, not plug-in.

• 53:53Doug DeMuro?

  Slightly is right, by the way. These cars are soldiering on. This is an XC90, which came out 16?

• 53:58Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 53:59Doug DeMuro?

  The 80, the 60 came out in 18?

• 54:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:02Doug DeMuro?

  Um, I mean, it's been 10, 12 years. These cars are still going.

• 54:06Speaker 04

  I think they weren't, my recollection is that they weren't planning on facelifting either because the EX90 came out.

• 54:12Doug DeMuro?

  Well, either, whether or not that was their plan, they certainly devoted a lot of the development dollars to the EX90 and now don't have the capability to redesign this car. It's a shame because yes, the EX90 looks so much nicer. What I really want is a plug-in, a 70 mile plug-in range hybrid on an EX90. Like, that's the dream.

• 54:28Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 54:28Speaker 05

  But they're also coming out with a couple of new colors, which having shopped Volvos, your, your options otherwise are like silver, black, white.

• 54:36Doug DeMuro?

  No.

• 54:37Speaker 05

  And then like a really muted blue and a really muted green. Like, they're all basically gray with like a hint of some other color.

• 54:43Speaker 04

  Which is what you're.

• 54:44Doug DeMuro?

  Except for, do you know the color, Filippo?

• 54:47Speaker 04

  Uh, I don't think they do Rebel Blue anymore.

• 54:49Doug DeMuro?

  Bursting Blue.

• 54:49Speaker 04

  Oh, Bursting Blue.

• 54:50Doug DeMuro?

  Pull it up. You remember Bursting?

• 54:52Speaker 05

  I like the, the, you could, you used to be able to get the XC90s in red. Like the bright Ferrari red. So cool.

• 54:57Doug DeMuro?

  Yes, you could use the Art Designs. Bursting Blue is the best. I have a friend who has a Bursting Blue.

• 55:02Speaker 05

  Oh, that is nice.

• 55:03Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, okay, next news story, please.

• 55:04Speaker 04

  Hey, by the way, this is why you couldn't buy it because some of it's 16 grand.

• 55:07Doug DeMuro?

  This is a high number. You should see what someone go for. Pull up lowest. Go, go back and go to lowest price.

• 55:12Speaker 04

  This was a, a TA.

• 55:14Doug DeMuro?

  That was a TA, Nick.

• 55:15Speaker 05

  Well, and it's funny, prior to 2023, the, the plug-in hybrid range was like half of what it is now. It was like 15 to 20 instead of 31.

• 55:23Doug DeMuro?

  Now you understand why people lease these cars because the technology improvements are happening so quickly and you can kind of move on. You've already lost, by purchasing the Kia, you've already lost as much as the lease, so.

• 55:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, credit to Volvos. 70 miles is the, by far the most EV range for a plug-in hybrid. And there's no, as far as I can tell, like loss of additional cabin space, the trunk space and that.

• 55:41Doug DeMuro?

  70 miles.

• 55:42Speaker 04

  It's the same.

• 55:42Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, if they can do it all at 70 miles, it's fine. I don't care how it looks, honestly.

• 55:45Speaker 05

  And, and not to keep bringing up a sore subject, but Ford doesn't have a plug-in hybrid Explorer, so, you know.

• 55:51Doug DeMuro?

  That's right.

• 55:51Speaker 05

  If someone over there would just get on it, we would have been in an Explorer.

• 55:54Doug DeMuro?

  If they did it, we would hate it. It'd be a terrible car.

• 55:57Speaker 05

  But I would begrudgingly buy it anyway.

• 56:00Doug DeMuro?

  Next, uh, Gavin Newsom, our, our Dark Lord Governor. Don't you think so?

• 56:06Speaker 05

  I don't, he's got great hair.

• 56:07Doug DeMuro?

  But you only think he looks like a movie villain?

• 56:09Speaker 05

  Oh, for sure. I wouldn't trust this guy to watch my dog while I got a coffee.

• 56:14Doug DeMuro?

  Anyway, he is signed into law. I'm going to tell you a story here. He signed Leno's Law into law, so now cars are completely going to be getting January 1 of 28. Emissions exempt through 1980, and it's going to roll through 86. And I have to assume that by the time it all ends, they're going to, they're going to make a further exemption too.

• 56:29Speaker 04

  I mean, we assumed that originally, but.

• 56:31Doug DeMuro?

  Well, they eventually did. They did it today. So that's signed into law. Now, I want to talk about the, the low rider license plate.

• 56:36Speaker 04

  There is a new, in theory, I haven't walked this.

• 56:39Doug DeMuro?

  While signing this bill into law, exempting cars from, and they chose a Bronco from that era, from 74 to 80, and then through 86 from, from emissions, finally.

• 56:50Doug DeMuro?

  He also signed a bill into law authorizing the low rider license plate. But like all license plates in California, it requires 7,500 people to agree to do it in order for it to go into production. The number of organizations that have attempted, uh, that have succeeded in getting a license plate passed with a 7,500 threshold is zero. It has never happened. So there will be no low rider license plate.

• 57:14Speaker 04

  I thought that circumvented that. Like that's a standard process, but through bill, through the legislature.

• 57:19Doug DeMuro?

  It should, but no, in this case, the bill is signed to allow the organization to start collecting signatures for 70, they have until 2032 to do it. They will not get it.

• 57:29Speaker 05

  Do you know how many Montana requires?

• 57:31Doug DeMuro?

  50.

• 57:32Speaker 05

  Zero. You have to pay a $4,000 one time fee. Which is why there's so many insane Montana plates. Is it, it's nothing like Doug and I could right now come up with a license plate and chip in two grand each.

• 57:44Doug DeMuro?

  Rural fire one that we have back there was just a photograph of a fire station. Maryland requires only 20, Maryland has the most license plates in any US state, most options. They only require 25 people in your nonprofit to sign up and then you have a license plate. California requires 7,500 and no organization has ever met the threshold in the history of California. Now I know what you're thinking, wait a minute, there have been some license plate.

• 58:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 58:06Doug DeMuro?

  So how did that happen? The 49ers plate, which is the most recent one, got up to like 3,000 orders. And then the owner of the 49ers personally purchased the remaining 4,500 plates and distributed them for free to people in order to get to 7,500. Same with the breast cancer plate. It was the exact same thing. They got to 3,000 or 4,000 and then the breast cancer organization bought the remaining 3,500.

• 58:30Speaker 04

  Can you just buy all of them?

• 58:31Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, I guess so. It's incredibly expensive.

• 58:33Speaker 05

  $50 a plate?

• 58:33Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, type, what does that cost? 7,500 times $50 a plate. If your organization-

• 58:38Speaker 05

  375 grand.

• 58:39Doug DeMuro?

  If your organization has a half million, you can just do it all.

• 58:42Speaker 04

  I mean, that, that's an easy price to venture.

• 58:44Doug DeMuro?

  Isn't that unbelievable? However, however, with the 49ers one, the state was still a stickler about it. They said, you, it's fine to do it for free, but you still have to find 7,500 people to take it for free. And then the 49ers were trying to like beg people like, we've done this, you have to take these.

• 58:57Speaker 04

  At that point, just buy every car. Buy 7,500 cars. That's fine, it's easy.

• 59:02Doug DeMuro?

  Anyway, no low rider license plate, even though it's been signed into law. What a shame, cause it'd be cool, but unfortunately it won't happen.

• 59:08Speaker 05

  Well, we got to figure out the place to get the signatures and we can share it on this pod and maybe help.

• 59:14Doug DeMuro?

  Dude, there's a NASCAR one that failed like yesterday. There's a biking one that failed. We could, we could announce all of them and they would all still fail.

• 59:21Speaker 04

  You have to like, if members are, you have to make a commitment and pay now, but it might not actually happen for years.

• 59:26Doug DeMuro?

  Refund you, no, it's, they have through 2032.

• 59:28Speaker 04

  Right.

• 59:28Doug DeMuro?

  They'll refund you in six years if it didn't work. You get your 50 bucks back.

• 59:33Speaker 04

  Or you'll get a plate for a car that you sold five and a half years ago.

• 59:36Doug DeMuro?

  That happened to all the 49ers people, cause that was like 10 years ago. And so no one still has the car. They signed up for their 49ers platform and it's become total pandemonium in the United

• 59:43Speaker 04

  Not a great system.

• 59:44Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, California is terrible again, but we at least have cars exempted from smog through 1980.

• 59:49Speaker 04

  Shout out to Jay Leno.

• 59:50Doug DeMuro?

  And eventually 86.

• 59:51Speaker 05

  It's cool that they did it at Jay's garage and like did a whole thing.

• 59:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, somebody understands PR.

• 59:58Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, some, the dark lord.

• 1:00:03Doug DeMuro?

  The dark lord himself. Uh, all right, next news story, please.

• 1:00:07Speaker 04

  I think that's dead on yours.

• 1:00:08Doug DeMuro?

  I want to move on to the talk cars segment. There's a lot to talk about.

• 1:00:11Speaker 05

  We're already an hour in too.

• 1:00:12Doug DeMuro?

  I know.

• 1:00:12Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 1:00:13Speaker 05

  It's a problem, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. And you were like, oh, we gotta shorten the news segment, it's too long.

• 1:00:17Doug DeMuro?

  There's a lot of good news this week. There's a lot to talk about the talk cars segment, starting with, this is a photograph of me and Hoovy next to an EB110.

• 1:00:25Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 1:00:25Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. Um, I also want to move on to this next.

• 1:00:28Speaker 05

  You, you had good hair then.

• 1:00:30Doug DeMuro?

  I want to move on to the next one too. Me and Sean just saw this.

• 1:00:34Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:00:34Doug DeMuro?

  Here's a person with a Forester bragging that they have an Infiniti QX80.

• 1:00:39Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:00:39Doug DeMuro?

  Can you imagine?

• 1:00:40Speaker 05

  Can't let go of that plate.

• 1:00:41Doug DeMuro?

  The person personalizes his license plate to about, to brag about having a mediocre car and then puts it on a different mediocre car. Have you ever seen anything like this before? What sense does this make?

• 1:00:54Speaker 04

  That's insane.

• 1:00:55Doug DeMuro?

  How did that possibly happen?

• 1:00:56Speaker 05

  Why did they retain it?

• 1:00:57Doug DeMuro?

  Why did they retain it? And also you, I think, I don't think they're retaining it. I think they're parking it, hoping that they eventually move up to a QX80. But who goes from a Forester to a QX80?

• 1:01:06Speaker 05

  But Doug, that plate's two years expired.

• 1:01:08Doug DeMuro?

  It's also two years.

• 1:01:09Speaker 05

  So it's probably still registered to an Infiniti QX80 and the cop's gonna be like, eh, I think something's a little off here.

• 1:01:15Speaker 04

  I was trying to check, but it doesn't pull back.

• 1:01:16Doug DeMuro?

  If you're gonna run around with expired plates, don't have a vanity plate for the wrong car.

• 1:01:22Speaker 04

  Colorado.

• 1:01:24Doug DeMuro?

  It's gonna really bring the wrong attention. Just a regular plate for God's sake.

• 1:01:28Speaker 05

  They're getting around to it, it's on their to do list, they're, they're gonna register.

• 1:01:31Doug DeMuro?

  Unbelievable.

• 1:01:32Speaker 04

  No VIN comes back, probably because it's two years out of date.

• 1:01:34Doug DeMuro?

  Infiniti QX80 vanity, just even having a QX80 with a QX80 vanity plate is embarrassing.

• 1:01:39Speaker 05

  I agree.

• 1:01:40Doug DeMuro?

  Because, because like, what, what are you bragging about? Putting it on a Forester. Anyway, Sean and I saw that and we thought it was, we thought it was.

• 1:01:47Speaker 05

  That's incredible. Can you, can we go back to the EB?

• 1:01:49Doug DeMuro?

  It's Hoovy and me next to an EB110.

• 1:01:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:51Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, okay.

• 1:01:51Speaker 04

  Including it for fun?

• 1:01:52Doug DeMuro?

  A couple of, couple of, uh, I used to say, my, uh, you can leave it up, honestly.

• 1:01:56Speaker 04

  Oh, sure.

• 1:01:57Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. Um, my G500 Cabriolet sold, it's going to South Florida.

• 1:02:01Speaker 04

  Oh, wow. Sad that it's leaving CARB certification.

• 1:02:04Doug DeMuro?

  Well.

• 1:02:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's true, that was not a value add to them.

• 1:02:07Doug DeMuro?

  Are you, uh, sad?

• 1:02:09Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:02:09Doug DeMuro?

  Okay.

• 1:02:10Speaker 04

  It's interesting how values have shifted on those. There was a period of time when they were the hottest thing in the world.

• 1:02:15Doug DeMuro?

  I think there was a day when I could have gotten 275 for that car. But I was using it as a vehicle at the time.

• 1:02:21Speaker 05

  Right. On my, all of my, my Instagram feed has all these G, G-Wagon like owners groups commenting, all thinking it should have gone for more. But it's, it's the people that currently own them and have a value in their head of where they wanted to be.

• 1:02:33Doug DeMuro?

  I looked and I cannot find another sale where one with my mileage, with over 100,000 miles sold for that much. Bring a trailer, lesser business.

• 1:02:41Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:02:42Doug DeMuro?

  They sold a 70,000 mile one for 207 and I got 210 for my 100,000 mile one. Um, similar condition, honestly. I, it.

• 1:02:51Doug DeMuro?

  Dealer didn't sell it to a dealer. I think that, um, I think that it was a totally fair result. I'm happy for the next guy and he seems happy with it.

• 1:02:58Speaker 05

  Don't you think with the new one coming out, buy Mercedes, that a lot of the buyers that wanted are, are gonna say, I'd rather have a new one?

• 1:03:03Doug DeMuro?

  I think there are, the, the old one is definitely cooler. It's obviously has some benefits, including that it's like smaller. Um, however, there are definitely people who are like, instead of buying this weird imported 26 year old thing, I'm just gonna wait and buy one at a dealer with a warranty that I could trade in.

• 1:03:17Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:03:18Doug DeMuro?

  So, uh, I think I'm, I'm happy it's gone and I think the, the number was fair and that's that. Uh, I am selling the 993 Turbo.

• 1:03:25Speaker 05

  We knew that, that's a lot.

• 1:03:26Doug DeMuro?

  I am also selling my blue white Ford GT.

• 1:03:29Speaker 05

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• 1:04:01Speaker 05

  We had no idea. It's much like him departing, this is all breaking news, we're finding out now.

• 1:04:06Doug DeMuro?

  Is because he's going to Ford and to erase any appearance of impropriety, I need to sell my Ford GT.

• 1:04:13Speaker 04

  Hey, didn't you buy a different Ford GT?

• 1:04:15Doug DeMuro?

  I don't remember that. But look, the point is, I'm selling it and in, and I am selling it in a very special way. Cars and Bids is doing an event at Willow Springs. Willow Springs is doing the event, so racetrack near Los Angeles. They're doing an event called Willow Springs Reimagine.

• 1:04:28Speaker 04

  Are you? He's shilling.

• 1:04:30Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, it's on Saturday, October 17th, and we are actually doing a live sale of some cars there. They're gonna be auctioned on the website as well. Um, but you can also go and see the cars in person and check it out at Willow Springs Management. My Ford GT is gonna be one of the cars that is gonna be there, along with a lot of other cool stuff, including a V6 Clio.

• 1:04:47Speaker 04

  October 17th.

• 1:04:48Doug DeMuro?

  October 17th. Are you gonna be there?

• 1:04:51Speaker 04

  I might be there.

• 1:04:51Doug DeMuro?

  Oh my God, really? You're still gonna go to our events?

• 1:04:53Speaker 04

  I will still absolutely go to Corvus events.

• 1:04:56Doug DeMuro?

  You're still gonna?

• 1:04:56Speaker 04

  That weekend is a little up, up in the air, but I will absolutely go to Corvus.

• 1:04:59Doug DeMuro?

  You're still gonna see Felipe?

• 1:05:01Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 1:05:02Doug DeMuro?

  If you want your car to be at this very special event, you can still submit it where you're looking for great stuff.

• 1:05:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, no 40s.

• 1:05:09Doug DeMuro?

  Great stuff, really cool cars. You can submit it, uh, Willow Springs Reimagine event on our website.

• 1:05:14Speaker 05

  If you've got a Corvette, a Camaro.

• 1:05:17Doug DeMuro?

  No.

• 1:05:17Speaker 05

  An Astra.

• 1:05:18Doug DeMuro?

  What I want, what I want is a Vector W8. That's the level of car I'm looking for.

• 1:05:23Speaker 04

  At a minimum.

• 1:05:24Doug DeMuro?

  Willow Springs Reimagine, we're trying to get together a group of like really, really special cars.

• 1:05:27Speaker 04

  And we do have some incredible ones going, but we've got room for one or two more.

• 1:05:31Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, anyway, my Ford GT will be there. My Ford GT is selling on Cars and Bids. This is the end.

• 1:05:36Speaker 04

  Of the Ford GT. I will miss that Ford GT.

• 1:05:37Speaker 05

  That's one I'll actually bid on.

• 1:05:39Doug DeMuro?

  So that's sad. You'll bid on that?

• 1:05:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, if it's not reserved.

• 1:05:42Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, how lovely.

• 1:05:43Speaker 04

  I will miss that car. I know you, there may be another one in our lives, but that car you've had for such a long time. I've driven that car, it's been in our lives for nine years now?

• 1:05:52Doug DeMuro?

  Eight.

• 1:05:53Speaker 04

  Eight years.

• 1:05:53Speaker 05

  I think the problem is the, the spec on it is not clowny enough. Don't you wish it could last with itself a little more?

• 1:06:01Speaker 04

  And like, if you forget how many kids you have.

• 1:06:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:06:03Speaker 04

  How do you know if it's not on the side of the car?

• 1:06:05Doug DeMuro?

  That's exactly right.

• 1:06:06Speaker 04

  You, you need to be reminded.

• 1:06:07Doug DeMuro?

  Right. I will vaguely miss the car. I never warmed up to the color. Um, it is a very special car, mine. Um, but we'll get into that when it goes live.

• 1:06:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, which is October, October 6th, I think.

• 1:06:21Doug DeMuro?

  Um, but now the nine and three slide, the G wagons gone, things are changing. Got that E55 wagon, got a Supra, stuff's leaving, stuff's going. There is a lot of flux here.

• 1:06:29Speaker 05

  Okay, you just sold the G500.

• 1:06:31Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:31Speaker 05

  But yesterday, before that formally like wire transfer happened.

• 1:06:36Doug DeMuro?

  Yes.

• 1:06:36Speaker 05

  How many cars did you own?

• 1:06:38Doug DeMuro?

  Ten.

• 1:06:39Speaker 05

  I remember like two years, you're like, I can't have more than six cars.

• 1:06:42Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, ten, ten is too much, but it's a, it's a, it's a limbo period. When, when it all is said and done, I will end up with seven.

• 1:06:49Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:06:49Doug DeMuro?

  Which I think is the right number for me personally. One of them will not, will live on the east coast and, and my buddy Bruce is gonna take care of it.

• 1:06:55Speaker 05

  That doesn't include the Wrangler.

• 1:06:57Doug DeMuro?

  Seven will include the Wrangler.

• 1:06:59Speaker 05

  That car's gone, so you're a nine.

• 1:07:01Doug DeMuro?

  The E55 wagon's not.

• 1:07:02Speaker 05

  Oh, okay. You're just, you're already moving that one for your.

• 1:07:04Doug DeMuro?

  Well, I needed, I needed it for a purpose. It will hopefully fulfill its purpose. Fingers crossed.

• 1:07:09Speaker 05

  You, you're feeling your third child, the third child will come home in that car.

• 1:07:11Doug DeMuro?

  In the hospital in that car, which I actually love the car.

• 1:07:13Speaker 05

  Is your plan to sell it the day after?

• 1:07:15Doug DeMuro?

  No, but I imagine within the next year.

• 1:07:17Speaker 05

  Oh, sure, sure.

• 1:07:18Doug DeMuro?

  Sell it, but that's probably before I buy the Jeep. So I, I don't think there's gonna be a seven.

• 1:07:22Speaker 05

  Got it.

• 1:07:23Doug DeMuro?

  Eight car kinda thing.

• 1:07:24Speaker 05

  We're gonna buy it.

• 1:07:25Doug DeMuro?

  Will you help me buy this, uh, Wrangler 392?

• 1:07:28Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 1:07:28Doug DeMuro?

  Well, here's what I'd like for you to do.

• 1:07:29Speaker 05

  Spike car.

• 1:07:30Doug DeMuro?

  Here's what I'd like for you to do. I'd like for you to come to me, to the dealership with me. Uh, I'd like for you to, uh, take a look at the car and test drive it four separate times. You're no stranger to that. And then I'd like you to scream at the dealership's salesperson. Can you, I, I, you have some experience in this.

• 1:07:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm a natural. Do you have any neighbors that own?

• 1:07:50Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:50Speaker 05

  Jeep dealerships where they're.

• 1:07:51Doug DeMuro?

  That we can, that we can create an awkward situation.

• 1:07:54Speaker 05

  Probably, probably. No, I, I, uh, I'd be happy to negotiate. I think I'd do better than Filippo would.

• 1:07:59Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, probably.

• 1:08:00Speaker 05

  Cause Filippo also has had a share of trying to negotiate.

• 1:08:03Doug DeMuro?

  I, I think the Wrangler 392s are less than the man that's like, oh, you're a charity pro, but hey. Maybe not.

• 1:08:08Speaker 05

  I'm starting to think there's some wisdom of your approach, which is just paying what they ask for and not haggling.

• 1:08:13Doug DeMuro?

  Well, you know, the G Cabrio, as an, as an example of that, if you buy the right car, it's so funny. I bought my G Cab for a hundred and thirty-five thousand, a hundred and thirty-three, five. And everybody thought I was insane for paying so much, including you. And I just sold it for two ten.

• 1:08:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:08:25Doug DeMuro?

  And, um, I can't believe you paid so much. Well, I parked money in a car for a while and got out of it. Kia Sorento's a different story.

• 1:08:34Speaker 05

  Audi A2, different story.

• 1:08:35Doug DeMuro?

  I didn't, that was my business.

• 1:08:39Doug DeMuro?

  Sean lost all that money and went to his budget.

• 1:08:43Doug DeMuro?

  My point is that if you are smart, things can go okay.

• 1:08:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:08:48Doug DeMuro?

  Now, on that subject, I wanna talk about some of your situations. You are selling a lot of cars as well. You have your Cayenne GTS, that it will be sold by the time this pod goes live.

• 1:08:56Speaker 05

  Correct.

• 1:08:57Doug DeMuro?

  Um, you have your SLR coming up.

• 1:08:59Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:09:00Doug DeMuro?

  Your E55 is doing great, right?

• 1:09:03Speaker 05

  Well, it, it's doing great other than fifth and sixth that have left the chat.

• 1:09:09Doug DeMuro?

  A lot of cars only have four gear.

• 1:09:11Speaker 05

  I think it's just a shifter, shifter bushing or something that is, that has gone bad, but I, I don't know yet. So it's, it's drivable, but I don't. Freeway unless I wanna go in fourth and like really ring it out. It's probably not great.

• 1:09:23Doug DeMuro?

  I said to him, I said, you can't, you can't really, this car's broken. He says, it's not broken. I used up to fourth. I said, what about the freeway? He said, I can go fourth. I'm like, yeah, but you're, you're at six thousand RPM. He's taking it camping with his daughter this weekend.

• 1:09:35Speaker 05

  Well, the Range Rover convertible, which I brought here, the roof still isn't fixed. They're waiting for materials to come in. So even, that car I can't really use, the SLR I can't use, the Cayenne I can't use. I have five cars and really only one is in functioning.

• 1:09:48Doug DeMuro?

  It's a Kia Sorento, which you don't wanna use. So Nick, Mr. Crazy Nick, who has all these cars and buys cars, sells cars crazy all the time, has too many cars, it has no vehicles to drive.

• 1:09:57Speaker 05

  Do you know what the silver lining is?

• 1:09:59Doug DeMuro?

  Hmm.

• 1:09:59Speaker 05

  My wife goes, perhaps you've overcorrected and need to buy a car.

• 1:10:03Doug DeMuro?

  Whoa.

• 1:10:04Speaker 05

  So I have permission.

• 1:10:05Doug DeMuro?

  Wow.

• 1:10:06Speaker 05

  So, yeah.

• 1:10:06Doug DeMuro?

  But the SLR, we refer to the SLR exclusively in our group as the slur.

• 1:10:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:10:11Doug DeMuro?

  The slur is going and the Cayenne is going. And then you really will, you have some cash in your pocket.

• 1:10:16Speaker 05

  I'm looking forward to that feeling.

• 1:10:17Doug DeMuro?

  Fifteen grand plus whatever the SLR sells for.

• 1:10:20Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah, no, I, I think, uh.

• 1:10:22Doug DeMuro?

  Looking forward to that feeling.

• 1:10:23Speaker 05

  Things are looking up.

• 1:10:25Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:25Speaker 05

  It's always darkest before dawn. I, I actually, for the first time ever, had to pay credit card interest this month.

• 1:10:33Doug DeMuro?

  Nick.

• 1:10:33Speaker 05

  Despite being at like, like what should be the highest earning years of my life, I've somehow had lifestyle creep outpace earnings.

• 1:10:41Doug DeMuro?

  Money that is Nick.

• 1:10:43Speaker 05

  No, cause he, he bought those tables. Yeah. Well, thankfully, I had, I had some cash hit Monday, so I could pay off the credit card.

• 1:10:49Doug DeMuro?

  How are you such a degenerate? You're insane.

• 1:10:53Speaker 05

  I realized I met Hoovy, I bought Hoovy's car, and along with it came Hoovy's spirit. Like suddenly I'm having to sell cars to pay for things.

• 1:11:03Doug DeMuro?

  Are you gonna be hawking twenty-nine ninety-five Buick Regals?

• 1:11:06Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:11:06Doug DeMuro?

  Cause speaking of, can you go to the Hoovy website? Let's see what he's got.

• 1:11:08Speaker 05

  The Hoovy lot, yes.

• 1:11:09Doug DeMuro?

  Can I? Yeah, let's see what, let's see what Hoovy's got for sale today, uh, on the site there. At some point, someone's gonna tell Hoovy that we do this.

• 1:11:17Speaker 05

  TNA Ventures?

• 1:11:18Doug DeMuro?

  And he's gonna tell me to cut it out.

• 1:11:19Speaker 05

  LLC is his title tag?

• 1:11:21Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, cause it was, it was Tyler and Ann, his wife.

• 1:11:24Speaker 05

  Hoovy, hit me up for some SEO help.

• 1:11:26Doug DeMuro?

  All right, go, go, yeah, it's his title. I know. Go down, get on, let's see what he's got.

• 1:11:29Speaker 05

  Ooh, Corvette now.

• 1:11:31Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, he sold that Regal? Keep going, keep, I wanna see the good stuff. Keep going. Come on, let's see what, let's see the low end. What can we get?

• 1:11:38Speaker 05

  Oh, the Renegade's still there for seven.

• 1:11:40Doug DeMuro?

  That's it. He got rid of the Regal. He sold that Regal.

• 1:11:41Speaker 05

  He sold the Fiat 500 for three grand.

• 1:11:43Doug DeMuro?

  This is a manual Jeep, folks. A manual and limited for drive. The Hoovy lot has actually increased, although there's now two cheap Titans.

• 1:11:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:11:52Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, okay. Um, so anyway, you have no cars to drive, but you are selling your Cayenne. That's good.

• 1:11:57Speaker 05

  Yep. Cayenne's gone. I'm sad about the SLR, but that'll, uh, I'm, I'm curious to see where that one lands, and then that'll dictate how much we have to play with for the next car. Which could be a Ford GT.

• 1:12:06Doug DeMuro?

  We're hoping it's a Ford GT. My Ford GT?

• 1:12:09Speaker 05

  We'll see how it goes. If it's like your G Cab where it gets way more than it's worth, then I'm out.

• 1:12:13Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, okay. I wanna move on to the, uh, market report.

• 1:12:17Speaker 05

  I have to talk about my truck.

• 1:12:18Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:12:20Speaker 05

  I'm sorry.

• 1:12:20Doug DeMuro?

  Because it's a Ford.

• 1:12:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:12:22Doug DeMuro?

  And he's contractually obligated.

• 1:12:23Speaker 05

  I would like to share that my truck now has new wheels. Jim Farley is watching this going, yes.

• 1:12:29Doug DeMuro?

  Wait, you know what?

• 1:12:30Speaker 05

  This is what we wanna show people.

• 1:12:32Doug DeMuro?

  You know why he has to talk about his truck? Cause he made some deal with the wheel and tire company.

• 1:12:35Speaker 05

  Correct.

• 1:12:36Doug DeMuro?

  That he would talk about the truck.

• 1:12:37Speaker 05

  And he was like, give me.

• 1:12:38Doug DeMuro?

  And he's like, I'm, I'm getting off the pod and two pods, I gotta get this out.

• 1:12:41Speaker 05

  All that cares is that free, if, if the sidewall is completely the wrong size, I'll take them.

• 1:12:46Doug DeMuro?

  It is really not. The pictures I sent, I believe they don't look great and on this TV they look horrible, but the, it has, uh, new wheels from Nomad, which looks really good, and new tires from Nokian. Nokian is outpost, uh, Altrant tires. And I realized driving home.

• 1:13:01Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, the sun did over approximately fifty years. Uh, it is incredible what new tires will do. I don't mean this as an ad for, for Nokian, although they are like our, our tire people.

• 1:13:12Speaker 05

  And they make great tires.

• 1:13:13Doug DeMuro?

  But I mean that sincerely, not because I'm getting paid. He's getting paid, you gotta wonder.

• 1:13:17Speaker 05

  There's no bias here.

• 1:13:18Doug DeMuro?

  It was a wild moment. I was driving the, the truck home from getting the new wheels and tires put on, and I was coasting and it was just quiet. And that was not true on my thirty-year-old, uh, tire, on it before. They're so much better.

• 1:13:30Speaker 05

  He was driving home, wearing his Warby Parker sunglasses and his chubby shorts with a.

• 1:13:35Doug DeMuro?

  With the Nokian tires and the Nomad wheels.

• 1:13:38Speaker 05

  Thank goodness for Morgan and Morgan.

• 1:13:39Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:40Speaker 05

  Meeting with his attorneys, Morgan and Morgan.

• 1:13:42Doug DeMuro?

  Can I ask you the obvious question?

• 1:13:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:13:44Doug DeMuro?

  What are you keeping there?

• 1:13:45Speaker 05

  Uh, I should look. I honestly don't know what's in there. We are now starting, now that it has new wheels and tires and is much more drivable safely than before, uh, we gotta start the, we'll probably try to clearcoat it and we need to start the interior restoration.

• 1:13:58Doug DeMuro?

  Can I ask you?

• 1:13:58Speaker 05

  That's their current plan.

• 1:13:59Doug DeMuro?

  Can I ask you the next obvious question?

• 1:14:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:14:02Doug DeMuro?

  If, and I think we're all thinking this, so I'm just gonna say it. I think the, even the crew.

• 1:14:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:14:06Doug DeMuro?

  If you open that and a human hand is inside.

• 1:14:08Speaker 05

  I have opened it. There's just some stuff in it. I don't believe there are any, any hands.

• 1:14:12Doug DeMuro?

  If there was a human hand inside.

• 1:14:14Speaker 05

  I think I would call the police.

• 1:14:15Doug DeMuro?

  Really? Because didn't you inherit this truck from a family member? Like, would you call the police or would you just kinda throw away the hand and be like, I didn't know about that?

• 1:14:21Speaker 05

  That family member is dead.

• 1:14:23Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, I know, but.

• 1:14:23Speaker 05

  So I think persecution is gonna be tough.

• 1:14:25Doug DeMuro?

  Well, persecution would, would not be tough.

• 1:14:30Doug DeMuro?

  He can still be persecuted after he dies.

• 1:14:32Speaker 05

  Well.

• 1:14:32Doug DeMuro?

  Look at Jesus.

• 1:14:37Speaker 05

  Yeah. I bet, I bet you TNA Ventures in Wichita, Kansas would, would take it on a train for Top Dollar. I legitimately love this truck. This truck, like, it's carbureted, it just starts off surprisingly well. It drives surprisingly well. It's honest and the wheel tires.

• 1:14:50Doug DeMuro?

  I mean, it's talking about a Ford. We hate this truck. This truck is trash. It's built by Ford, bad manufacturer.

• 1:14:55Speaker 05

  To Nomad, I'll put up some better photos on, on Instagram.

• 1:14:58Doug DeMuro?

  Thank you to Nomad, thank you to Nokian for finally getting Filippo into some safety. What is, what are these tires?

• 1:15:04Speaker 05

  Those, the back, the one that looks good is the fifth wheel for it. The other ones are the old ones.

• 1:15:09Doug DeMuro?

  There's.

• 1:15:09Speaker 05

  I have six additional wheels. They're next to my house now and I.

• 1:15:13Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, God, he's one of those.

• 1:15:14Speaker 05

  I need to get rid of that.

• 1:15:15Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, man.

• 1:15:16Speaker 05

  Cause I don't want, I can't.

• 1:15:18Doug DeMuro?

  Nick, I grew up in Ohio. He's got wheels and tires next to his house. What's wrong with that?

• 1:15:21Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:15:22Doug DeMuro?

  Does he, doesn't he also have a camper shelf for his, for his, uh, super duty there?

• 1:15:25Speaker 05

  No, we left that at my house.

• 1:15:26Doug DeMuro?

  On jack stands, sitting on cinder blocks? Isn't that what he's doing?

• 1:15:30Speaker 05

  That hits a little too close to home. We're offended.

• 1:15:33Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, okay. I wanna talk about the market report. We gotta go fast in market report, cause there are amazing questions this week. The market report is brought to you by Tyler and Doug standing next to Bugatti EB110.

• 1:15:41Speaker 05

  Oh, sure.

• 1:15:42Doug DeMuro?

  Tyler and Doug standing next to Bugatti EB110. What else might happen?

• 1:15:46Speaker 05

  That's our, that's our slogan.

• 1:15:48Doug DeMuro?

  Where did this come from?

• 1:15:49Speaker 05

  That's a supersports too.

• 1:15:51Doug DeMuro?

  I can't speak to what it is.

• 1:15:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's got the little circles behind the window and then the vents and the.

• 1:15:56Doug DeMuro?

  I don't know anything about it.

• 1:15:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:15:58Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, okay. Market report. This picture, I, I'll tell you the straight, cause now people are gonna conjecture. That picture is like ten years old and I just found it today. I was like, oh, it's me and Hoovy next to EB110. Cause yeah, I don't even have a beard in that. This is, this was like, this was at the old Symbolic Cars and Coffee. Remember you?

• 1:16:14Speaker 05

  Oh, I remember seeing that there. Yes.

• 1:16:16Doug DeMuro?

  Hoovy came one time, I guess. Anywho, uh, the market report, uh, DB9, pull up the DB9. We had some strong DB9 saves.

• 1:16:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:16:24Doug DeMuro?

  And I'm starting to wonder.

• 1:16:25Speaker 05

  And some real nice ones too.

• 1:16:26Doug DeMuro?

  Yes. And I'm starting to wonder, Kenan sold that one for a hundred.

• 1:16:29Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:16:29Doug DeMuro?

  It was a stick, it was a coupe, it was low miles, it was the right one to sell for a hundred. But I was thinking it was an outlier. And then a couple of days ago, we sold this.

• 1:16:37Speaker 05

  You know whose that is, right?

• 1:16:38Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:38Speaker 05

  It's Walde's.

• 1:16:39Doug DeMuro?

  Steve Walde, my, my hero.

• 1:16:41Speaker 05

  I've tried to buy multiple Diablo's off him.

• 1:16:45Doug DeMuro?

  Well, uh, this car, 16,000 mile, also a manual, brought 75.

• 1:16:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:16:50Doug DeMuro?

  In my mind, this is a $35,000 car. Now, the manual helps. DB9 manuals are much rarer than Vantage manuals.

• 1:16:55Speaker 05

  For example.

• 1:16:56Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, here's an auto that did sell for 32.5, but also with a lot more miles.

• 1:17:01Doug DeMuro?

  It's interesting, manual DB9s.

• 1:17:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:17:02Doug DeMuro?

  That's, I didn't really see coming.

• 1:17:05Speaker 05

  Manual Astons, and I think that's like the right age where it's analog, not too analog.

• 1:17:10Doug DeMuro?

  V12. The Vantage is a lot more common with a manual, and you don't get a V12 until much later, and those are a lot more expensive.

• 1:17:15Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:17:16Doug DeMuro?

  This is kind of a cool thing, and they're starting to...

• 1:17:19Speaker 05

  DBSs are also up.

• 1:17:20Speaker 04

  Stratton had, Stratton just bought a DBS.

• 1:17:23Speaker 05

  A couple, like, DBSs are becoming kinda hot. It's on my list.

• 1:17:27Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:28Speaker 05

  We sold the V12 Vantage with a manual recently-ish for 203.

• 1:17:31Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, the V12, these are a lot more expensive.

• 1:17:34Speaker 05

  Supercar Ron just bought one of those. Like, they're, they're cool.

• 1:17:37Doug DeMuro?

  Um, but I'm pretty impressed with that result, uh, and with the fact that, like, the market finally seems to recognize that Aston Martins are a deal. I did, bought that one. Remember I had in Philly 10 years ago, I had that car?

• 1:17:48Speaker 05

  Speaking of going to dealerships, I went to the dealership with you.

• 1:17:50Doug DeMuro?

  To the, to the dealership in Washington DC?

• 1:17:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:17:53Doug DeMuro?

  Really?

• 1:17:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. I drove your Range Rover back now.

• 1:17:56Doug DeMuro?

  Damn, I didn't remember that.

• 1:17:57Speaker 05

  It wasn't photo-worthy. Just an EB110 at Cars and Coffee.

• 1:18:01Doug DeMuro?

  I support that.

• 1:18:04Doug DeMuro?

  But the market seems to finally be waking up to the fact that Astons are pretty good.

• 1:18:07Speaker 05

  And Vantage's have been flat for years.

• 1:18:09Speaker 04

  I, I think part of it, though, is that Ferraris and Lambos, the Italians are having such a run, that people are now saying, oh, a hundred grand doesn't buy me... I can't even get a 355 for that now.

• 1:18:19Doug DeMuro?

  Yep. So where's their value? Where else can I get something cool?

• 1:18:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:18:22Doug DeMuro?

  V8 Vantages, uh, are way too... This car, right? Didn't you buy this? For 29? You have, you have a car, you have too many cars, you, you have cars that are broken down, and you can't... Just get a cheap Vantage for a couple of weeks.

• 1:18:34Speaker 05

  I thought about lowballing Johnny today to see if I could rent it for like a month.

• 1:18:38Speaker 04

  Our coworker Johnny has, has a manual Vantage coupe.

• 1:18:40Speaker 05

  I think that they're, those are great values. The, the thing that worries me about Aston ownership is dealing with all the people at Cars and Coffee be like, oh, James Bond, huh? Shake and nutstir. It's, it's, trust me.

• 1:18:52Doug DeMuro?

  I don't think that happens at Cars and Coffee, however. I did get pulled over years ago driving mine by a Pennsylvania state trooper, and he walked up, the first thing he said was, "You're going pretty fast there, Mr. Bond."

• 1:19:03Doug DeMuro?

  That's, that's...

• 1:19:03Speaker 05

  It would get old.

• 1:19:04Doug DeMuro?

  My contribution to the market report. Do you guys have anything? Pull up the RS4.

• 1:19:07Speaker 04

  I want to talk about the RS4.

• 1:19:08Doug DeMuro?

  That was wild. You see this?

• 1:19:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, oh, it had no miles to it.

• 1:19:11Speaker 04

  Yep. Uh, this is the second highest RS4 result I can find publicly, ever.

• 1:19:16Doug DeMuro?

  Well, well, some of the stickers were higher, but we'll move on.

• 1:19:18Speaker 04

  Well, sorry, auction result in recent history. Uh, the one, the only one that was higher had like 800 miles.

• 1:19:24Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:25Speaker 04

  Uh, this is gonna be one of the nicest B7s.

• 1:19:27Doug DeMuro?

  It's so clean. The B7s have all been clapped by people like you.

• 1:19:30Speaker 05

  Thanks.

• 1:19:30Doug DeMuro?

  And so, am I wrong?

• 1:19:32Speaker 05

  No. They're so modded. It, it's hard not to.

• 1:19:36Doug DeMuro?

  But, so you look at this, the interior pictures, and it's like, like, what?

• 1:19:41Speaker 05

  Especially those white seats. The platinum leather is what they called it. It was really hard to keep nice.

• 1:19:45Doug DeMuro?

  The, last time you saw one that looked like this was like at the auto show when you were a kid, you know? Like, I can't believe there is still a B7 that is this clean.

• 1:19:53Speaker 05

  There's no, like, weird hand residue on the shifter.

• 1:19:56Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:19:57Doug DeMuro?

  The, the little, the little buttons in the center, like, go back to? These?

• 1:20:02Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:20:02Speaker 04

  Still look good.

• 1:20:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, those peel really easily. The carbon cracks really easily.

• 1:20:07Doug DeMuro?

  This car is so clean.

• 1:20:09Speaker 05

  Following, I'm still pretty active in the B7 RS4 community, and I was waiting for my Avon to be legal. But, it, this is sort of, this is a grill car. Like, people will talk, anyone who's ever had an RS4 would look at this and say, "I love that car. I just wish it were newer, nicer." Like, it, it makes sense that they're finally getting respected.

• 1:20:26Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. I think they've always had respect. They, they floored at some point and didn't get lower than X amount.

• 1:20:30Speaker 05

  10. Which one is it?

• 1:20:32Doug DeMuro?

  There are some really cheap ones out there, but a decent RS, B7 RS4 has always had value.

• 1:20:36Speaker 05

  If you didn't mind more miles, you could get a R8 with the same motor, manual gated, for 75. So the RS4, a nice RS4 is now worth as much as an RE.

• 1:20:47Doug DeMuro?

  What, what's, what's this one for 34? Like, how many miles does that have?

• 1:20:50Speaker 05

  30 gets...

• 1:20:51Doug DeMuro?

  90,000 miles.

• 1:20:52Speaker 05

  If you want a decent driver spec one, 30 is roughly what you would expect to pay. More if you want a nicer one, slightly less if you want a headache.

• 1:20:59Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. They're cool, and they're so subtle.

• 1:21:02Speaker 04

  They look great.

• 1:21:02Speaker 05

  The, one of the, uh, first auctions you guys had

• 1:21:05Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:05Speaker 05

  was a sprint blue RS4, and me and CJ Wilson went on a bidding war, and I lost it by like, yeah, nothing. 20 grand now, I bet this is easily double that.

• 1:21:15Doug DeMuro?

  How many miles?

• 1:21:15Speaker 05

  113.

• 1:21:16Speaker 04

  No, that's what it's worth still.

• 1:21:17Doug DeMuro?

  No, more than 20 was for blue. 35.

• 1:21:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, I regret not, I'm sure CJ would have kept one-upping me, like, he had a much deeper pocket than I did.

• 1:21:26Doug DeMuro?

  This was like literally like the first month of cars.

• 1:21:27Speaker 05

  What a different time.

• 1:21:28Doug DeMuro?

  Look how bad the pictures are. We were like desperate. Like, look at this, look at these photos, they're so bad. And Nick, Nick could have swooped in and...

• 1:21:36Speaker 05

  I, I was the underbidder, and I, I, this is one that I regret still.

• 1:21:39Doug DeMuro?

  CJ Wilson probably sold that to some unsuspecting Bay Area tech bro for 65, like the next...

• 1:21:43Speaker 05

  Well, he was gobbling up all the B7 RS4s at the time and then marking them up, but because he knew it was a, it was a hold.

• 1:21:49Speaker 04

  Can I give you a fun fact? I wrote this listing.

• 1:21:51Doug DeMuro?

  Really?

• 1:21:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:21:52Doug DeMuro?

  Back in the day, OG Filippo!

• 1:21:54Speaker 04

  I just confirmed.

• 1:21:55Doug DeMuro?

  OG Filippo.

• 1:21:57Speaker 04

  Different, different time.

• 1:21:58Doug DeMuro?

  I want to move on to the questions, unless you want to talk Benteke, but the questions are really good.

• 1:22:01Speaker 05

  Let's move on.

• 1:22:01Doug DeMuro?

  The questions this week are amazing, and every week you can ask us questions. You go to our YouTube video, and then Sean has figured out some way to post a link. I don't understand it, but it's in the comments. You click a link, you post questions. You post your questions. This is, the, it's been a revolution. The questions are 10 times better than they used to be.

• 1:22:18Speaker 04

  You can also just go to posts, and you can find the most recent posts there.

• 1:22:21Doug DeMuro?

  It's beautiful. It's beautiful. The questions are good. So, go on there, ask us questions. Sean is periodogging. Do not let him talk to us.

• 1:22:28Speaker 04

  By the way, if you wanted to scroll over from posts to the store, we have some incredible new merch.

• 1:22:33Speaker 05

  Oh my gosh, chill!

• 1:22:35Speaker 04

  Couple of cold ones, pint glass like I'm using right now.

• 1:22:38Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, okay.

• 1:22:39Speaker 05

  The next, the next, the next shirt's gonna say, "Found, fix or repair daily. Found, done, rode dead."

• 1:22:44Doug DeMuro?

  Found, done, rode dead. Okay, questions. Uh, the first quest, there's so many good questions.

• 1:22:50Doug DeMuro?

  The first question is...

• 1:22:51Speaker 05

  And ask questions next week for Filippo. It's your last chance.

• 1:22:54Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, this, this week is your last chance to ever ask Filippo questions.

• 1:22:57Speaker 05

  Questions about operations?

• 1:22:59Doug DeMuro?

  I want every question next week to be Filippo-related, and I will only ask questions directed at the Filippo.

• 1:23:03Speaker 05

  Agreed.

• 1:23:04Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, okay. Here's one, for us, Filippo.

• 1:23:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:23:09Doug DeMuro?

  A crying NSX asks, "Can you do a ranking on all generations of Nissan Altima?"

• 1:23:14Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 1:23:14Doug DeMuro?

  Third gen, obviously.

• 1:23:17Speaker 04

  I gotta remember how they define the first two, because...

• 1:23:19Doug DeMuro?

  The first two are distinct.

• 1:23:20Speaker 04

  No, no, I know, I know. I want to make sure I had that right. The first two are not as distinct.

• 1:23:24Doug DeMuro?

  They're completely different cars. 93 to 96 and 97 to 01. Completely different cars.

• 1:23:28Speaker 04

  Uh, the third gen is by far...

• 1:23:30Doug DeMuro?

  Third gen is the absolute all-time. The SER.

• 1:23:33Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:23:33Doug DeMuro?

  It gave us, it saved Nissan.

• 1:23:35Speaker 04

  Saved Nissan.

• 1:23:35Doug DeMuro?

  The teal color. Pull it up. Have we ever sold one?

• 1:23:37Speaker 04

  We must.

• 1:23:38Doug DeMuro?

  Pull up, type in Altima, see what we've sold. We must have sold SERs.

• 1:23:42Speaker 05

  Hold on, which gen you're saying third?

• 1:23:44Speaker 04

  The, the fourth gen is number two.

• 1:23:46Doug DeMuro?

  Look at that.

• 1:23:47Speaker 05

  Hold on, you're missing one thing, though. The fourth gen came as a coupe.

• 1:23:50Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, which is...

• 1:23:51Speaker 05

  And I think that gives it an advantage over the third gen.

• 1:23:54Doug DeMuro?

  No, no, no. Third gen, to this day, if you're in Nashville, they talk about how the third gen saved Nissan.

• 1:23:58Speaker 04

  Saved Nissan, literally.

• 1:23:59Doug DeMuro?

  Well, that's where they're...

• 1:24:00Speaker 04

  That's where they're based.

• 1:24:01Speaker 05

  I see.

• 1:24:01Speaker 04

  Uh, third gen saved Nissan. Fourth gen is the second.

• 1:24:04Doug DeMuro?

  Just all around the city.

• 1:24:08Doug DeMuro?

  The fourth gen was pretty good, and they did a big V6 in that, too.

• 1:24:11Speaker 04

  And also it was the start of the CVT. Which, which has defined Nissan since, for better or worse.

• 1:24:17Doug DeMuro?

  I would put the third gen first, the fourth gen second.

• 1:24:19Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:24:20Doug DeMuro?

  And every other Altima was utter trash.

• 1:24:24Speaker 05

  You know what else is funny?

• 1:24:25Speaker 04

  Let me think about that for a second.

• 1:24:26Speaker 05

  Every car in the Fast and the Furious one ended up being like a highly tunable, excited, desired car. Vince's Alt, Maxima, oh, it was a Maxima. That's right.

• 1:24:36Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, yeah. Vince had a, had a, uh, third gen Maxima.

• 1:24:40Speaker 05

  And those were cool. You could get like still-in superchargers and mod those.

• 1:24:43Speaker 04

  For the record, third gen number one, fourth gen number two. I would put the sixth gen, the current, number three.

• 1:24:48Doug DeMuro?

  No, fifth gen number three.

• 1:24:49Speaker 04

  And then the second gen.

• 1:24:49Speaker 05

  No, the fifth gen was just bad.

• 1:24:51Doug DeMuro?

  Fifth gen had a V6! You could still get a 3500.

• 1:24:53Speaker 04

  You're right.

• 1:24:54Doug DeMuro?

  So it goes 3, 4, 5...

• 1:24:56Speaker 04

  6, 2, 1.

• 1:24:58Doug DeMuro?

  No, no, no. First gen was better than second gen. No question. First gen was better than second gen.

• 1:25:02Speaker 04

  The second gen...

• 1:25:03Doug DeMuro?

  No. No. The second... 3, 4, 5, 6, 1, 2.

• 1:25:08Speaker 04

  The second gen was iconic in its own way.

• 1:25:10Doug DeMuro?

  The sixth gen is just a mediocre, trash, boring, no. The first gen was this, it had Infiniti-esque styling. It was this brand-new thing. They had hubcaps and wheels that made it look luxury. There was a...

• 1:25:21Speaker 04

  You're right. It had the grill that was like the Infiniti-style grill.

• 1:25:23Doug DeMuro?

  There was no keyhole in the trunk. You moved the Nissan logo out of the way.

• 1:25:26Speaker 04

  All right.

• 1:25:26Doug DeMuro?

  The first, it goes 3, 4, 5, 6, 1, 2. 3, 4, 5, 6, 1, 2. I could even be convinced 3, 4, 5, 1, 6, 2.

• 1:25:32Speaker 04

  The sixth is actually not a...

• 1:25:33Doug DeMuro?

  It's bad.

• 1:25:34Speaker 04

  Bad car. It's competitive.

• 1:25:36Doug DeMuro?

  It's bad.

• 1:25:36Speaker 04

  You know, by the way, there was a manual available on every one till the sixth gen, till the fifth gen, excuse me.

• 1:25:40Speaker 05

  I almost bought an Altima coupe.

• 1:25:42Doug DeMuro?

  That doesn't surprise me at all.

• 1:25:44Speaker 05

  I was, I really wanted a 350Z, but it didn't have a rear seat, and I thought my dog needed somewhere to sit. And so the Altima coupe was kinda like the more practical, less flashy. Like, I thought a 350Z was too flashy for someone in their twenties.

• 1:25:56Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, yeah?

• 1:25:56Speaker 05

  And so the Altima coupe was like a finalist before I got my Acura TSX.

• 1:26:00Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, Nick was a, Nick was a Japanese car guy. In fact, today he said to me, uh, all the NSXs were coupes, right?

• 1:26:09Speaker 04

  Not that one.

• 1:26:10Doug DeMuro?

  Well, not, not most of them.

• 1:26:12Speaker 04

  Targa, you know, I can bait. Yeah, no, I was thinking convertible.

• 1:26:17Speaker 04

  Not.

• 1:26:18Doug DeMuro?

  So you knew they had Targos?

• 1:26:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was saying there was never a convertible NSX.

• 1:26:22Doug DeMuro?

  For god's sake, that's insane. By the way, Nicky Lube, folks.

• 1:26:25Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:26:26Speaker 05

  Uh, okay.

• 1:26:26Speaker 04

  By the way, I point to that one because we will be selling Acura prototype from the, the Ironman movie. They, they can't, they can't see.

• 1:26:33Doug DeMuro?

  He's gotta get in a year's worth of promo. Uh, okay, next question from Mark Myers 9447. This is a quick response. Straight up, right now, make the call. Will Rivian survive?

• 1:26:42Speaker 04

  Yes, yes.

• 1:26:44Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, they're building cars in Illinois. Come on.

• 1:26:48Speaker 04

  Normal.

• 1:26:48Doug DeMuro?

  They're gonna survive. That plant has a history of making fantastic automobiles.

• 1:26:52Speaker 04

  They have a new plant opening up in Georgia.

• 1:26:54Doug DeMuro?

  That's right.

• 1:26:55Speaker 04

  Uh, there's a chance that things change, right? Like, you have to keep in mind that Rivian has some very large automakers as their investors.

• 1:27:01Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:01Speaker 04

  Volkswagen owns something like 20% of Rivian. There might be some consolidation, some merging, but I think fundamentally.

• 1:27:07Speaker 05

  Do you think they're worried about the Tesla Roadster launch and that eating away their sales?

• 1:27:11Doug DeMuro?

  No, and, and I think to his point.

• 1:27:12Speaker 04

  Great question.

• 1:27:12Doug DeMuro?

  Anytime you have an automaker backing you, you're set, like Pontiac. I think that you will, I think that, that, that they, and Saturn.

• 1:27:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:27:19Doug DeMuro?

  You will have no problems.

• 1:27:20Speaker 05

  Mercury.

• 1:27:20Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, you will have no problems from that. No, I think Rivian's good, probably. Their brand name is not quite strong enough that I think they're through the woods yet. But they're selling a lot of cars. Like, I think they'll survive because they're actually selling automobiles. Johnny Lieberman has one, for god's sake.

• 1:27:36Speaker 04

  With an R1T.

• 1:27:37Speaker 05

  And Sam.

• 1:27:38Doug DeMuro?

  Our friend Sam, who's gonna be on the pod. May or may not come on this podcast. I can't promise anything.

• 1:27:42Speaker 04

  He's been on other things.

• 1:27:44Speaker 05

  He hasn't even been on dinner the last two weeks.

• 1:27:46Doug DeMuro?

  I don't know if Sam's gonna be on the pod, but he might. And if he does, he'll tell us about it.

• 1:27:50Speaker 05

  You know where Sam is? Benihana.

• 1:27:53Speaker 04

  Huge Benihana. And, and he's driving his car that has, I'm thrilled that you're selling that 993, cause now I have the Porsche with the most horsepower.

• 1:27:59Doug DeMuro?

  Oh.

• 1:27:59Speaker 04

  Of the group, after he sells his.

• 1:28:01Doug DeMuro?

  I have a 4GT also, though.

• 1:28:03Speaker 04

  Regular Porsche.

• 1:28:04Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, regular Porsche.

• 1:28:05Speaker 04

  Well, Sam, Sam, like a boxer spider, but that, that's not enough.

• 1:28:08Doug DeMuro?

  Next question from little OOO. Dear Doug, you have infamously purchased, I think famously, not infamously, I don't think it's criminal. Purchased cars.

• 1:28:14Speaker 05

  We don't know, we don't know.

• 1:28:15Doug DeMuro?

  Purchased cars in their press color, regardless of color.

• 1:28:19Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, was there ever one you thought was so bad that it almost made you break your own rule? And on the flip side, was there a non-press color that was so good you wanted to break it? Yeah, I often don't wanna buy the press color, but it's just like, it's like ingrained within me, like Nick, like Nick cannot.

• 1:28:31Speaker 05

  Carrado green 958.

• 1:28:32Doug DeMuro?

  I absolutely would have bought that. Like, Nick cannot not be cheap. Do you know what I mean? Like, he knows, he's seen me do it. Like, you buy the nice thing, you maintain it well, you sell it for more money, as opposed to you buy the bad thing. You, you, you end up stranded on the street four times, you sell it for less money. He's seen it happen, but it's just not within him.

• 1:28:47Speaker 04

  One of those times because he ran out of gas. I mean, what's he gonna do?

• 1:28:50Speaker 05

  He's ranting about buying the right color when he's literally selling a Ford GT right now because he bought the wrong color. That was cheaper.

• 1:28:57Doug DeMuro?

  But I did buy the press color.

• 1:28:58Speaker 05

  You bought the cheaper color instead of the right color, and you are now correcting that mistake at a six-figure delta.

• 1:29:04Doug DeMuro?

  Well, uh.

• 1:29:05Speaker 05

  So I don't wanna hear, the, the color mistake on that car is more than the cumulative total of every car I've ever bought, combined.

• 1:29:12Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, but it's not, it's not a cost. This is the problem that I think you continue to make.

• 1:29:15Speaker 05

  You know what?

• 1:29:16Doug DeMuro?

  You think it's a cost, but it's a store of value.

• 1:29:18Speaker 05

  I liked Grigio on Terrace, alright, and you did not, and that is fine.

• 1:29:22Doug DeMuro?

  That was a horrible color.

• 1:29:22Speaker 05

  No, it is handsome and beautiful.

• 1:29:25Doug DeMuro?

  The answer to the question is.

• 1:29:27Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 1:29:27Doug DeMuro?

  The answer to the question is, um.

• 1:29:29Speaker 05

  Sexy.

• 1:29:30Doug DeMuro?

  I, yeah, no, for sure. The green Defender is actually my best one.

• 1:29:36Speaker 04

  I love that color.

• 1:29:36Doug DeMuro?

  The Pangaea green was the, was the launch color for the new Defender, and I owned this one in that color, and I never liked it. It's bizarre.

• 1:29:43Speaker 04

  It's a good color.

• 1:29:44Doug DeMuro?

  That's weird.

• 1:29:44Speaker 04

  I like Pangaea.

• 1:29:45Doug DeMuro?

  Blue, they had this beautiful blue called Tasman Blue, which was, they started, I think they sell it, it's absolutely gorgeous, but you had to get green with the white roof. That was the launch. Even those wheels, like you had, that was correct.

• 1:29:53Speaker 04

  Times that I feel like you've kind of backed into the press color, like your E-Class wagon was available, there were some press photos in white. Cause there wasn't really a.

• 1:30:01Doug DeMuro?

  The one I just got?

• 1:30:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, the, uh, 213.

• 1:30:04Doug DeMuro?

  Some of the cars were never photographed in a press setting.

• 1:30:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:30:08Doug DeMuro?

  That is true.

• 1:30:09Speaker 04

  And so you get away with whatever color you want.

• 1:30:10Doug DeMuro?

  Um, and so in those cases, I bought the color that most suited the car.

• 1:30:14Speaker 05

  The Sequoia did have a TRD Pro color the first year, though.

• 1:30:16Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, but all, all the press photos are white.

• 1:30:18Speaker 05

  Really?

• 1:30:19Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, like, but I'm sure they did TRD Pro press photos too, I don't know. But no, I, I, it's, it's also just become such a thing for me to like have the poster car in the poster color that I don't like sit here and be like, oh, I wish my 993 Turbo wasn't Arena Red. It's just like, it's what it is. It's, in my mind, the reason I buy the press color is cause that is the color of the car. Like, a 92 Viper is red. There are green ones, there are black ones, but it is red. It just is. The Supra, the Mark IV, is a red car.

• 1:30:46Speaker 05

  Yeah. So the problem is now that cars have become investments and stores of value.

• 1:30:52Speaker 05

  That it is now baked into the pricing. It's not like you're getting a deal to get the most desirable color.

• 1:30:56Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:57Speaker 05

  And so often, if you're people like me or Filippo, you have to decide, do I, if I'm stretching to buy a car that I can't afford. Would I rather, do I care about having a cool color, or do I just wanna get the nicest example of the car regardless of color? Knowing you can rap it, knowing you can do anything else. So to me, it's always been, like, the Mercy was a great example, far more than I'd ever spent on a car, far more than I was comfortable spending on a car. So buying a Verde Eta one, yes, I would rather have that, or a Oranzio Atlas, but.

• 1:31:25Speaker 05

  I'd rather have a car that I could drive a little bit more comfortably than like, again, like, spending more money out of pocket.

• 1:31:31Doug DeMuro?

  I don't think it's wrong not to get the press color. I just think for me personally, it's just how I see the car.

• 1:31:36Speaker 05

  If you can swing it, then yes.

• 1:31:37Doug DeMuro?

  Sometimes they're not more expensive. The, the general feeling in the 993 community is that Arena Red is not a particularly attractive color. I disagree strongly. I think of all my press colors, that's one of my very favorites, but the general feeling is that like, it's like this purplish maroon, it's like a little weird.

• 1:31:51Speaker 05

  The best example, because it was the press color, and if you see Arena on any other Porsche, I don't think it looks good.

• 1:31:55Doug DeMuro?

  It always looks bad.

• 1:31:56Speaker 05

  It looks weird.

• 1:31:57Doug DeMuro?

  Looks bad.

• 1:31:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:31:57Doug DeMuro?

  But it looks so good on there.

• 1:31:58Speaker 05

  But, but only cause it's ingrained in our brains that 993 is supposed to look bad.

• 1:32:02Speaker 04

  And it's what a designer chose. Like, so somebody that had a role in designing the car decided what color.

• 1:32:06Doug DeMuro?

  That's right. There is some component to me.

• 1:32:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:32:09Doug DeMuro?

  And also, I hate dark colors on cars, cause it hides the lines, and you'll notice that almost never is the press color a dark color for that reason.

• 1:32:15Speaker 04

  Except when they wanna hide the lines.

• 1:32:17Doug DeMuro?

  There's something in there. Like, me and designers, we have a, me and Camillo Pardo, we, we got, we, we got a, a bomb.

• 1:32:23Speaker 04

  Are you gonna find somebody to sign your new Ford GT?

• 1:32:25Doug DeMuro?

  Camillo? I'll find him eventually.

• 1:32:27Speaker 05

  You know, my wife, we were having pillow talk the other night.

• 1:32:30Doug DeMuro?

  Oh.

• 1:32:30Speaker 05

  She suggested.

• 1:32:31Doug DeMuro?

  Jesus, okay.

• 1:32:32Speaker 05

  Not, not, like, you know, just lying in bed, talking.

• 1:32:37Doug DeMuro?

  Okay.

• 1:32:38Speaker 05

  There was no funny business. Regardless, she suggested I get a yellow car as my next sports car.

• 1:32:44Doug DeMuro?

  A yellow car?

• 1:32:45Speaker 04

  Because she loved the Borrego Range Rover.

• 1:32:48Speaker 05

  Presumably, I think we just like bright colors. It, it is fun to have a yellow car. I think everyone should do that once in their lives.

• 1:32:54Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, next question from DJ Johnny Lux Boston.

• 1:32:57Speaker 05

  Oh, wow.

• 1:32:58Doug DeMuro?

  Since selling the company, uh, do investors have any rules on what you can or can't say on the podcast or in the reviews?

• 1:33:07Doug DeMuro?

  Well, now the Ford thing.

• 1:33:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:33:10Doug DeMuro?

  Don't you think? Like, we have a guardrail now.

• 1:33:12Speaker 05

  We're good.

• 1:33:12Doug DeMuro?

  Um, but I can't believe this question's even asked. Have you watched this podcast?

• 1:33:19Doug DeMuro?

  There are no notes. They don't come in.

• 1:33:21Speaker 04

  We don't, we don't offer an opportunity to give notes.

• 1:33:24Doug DeMuro?

  I am perpetually astonished, but there are no notes.

• 1:33:28Speaker 05

  The guy's wearing a Nicky Lube shirt for crying out loud.

• 1:33:30Doug DeMuro?

  At some point, I have to assume that some adult is gonna walk into the room and be like, you cannot let this guy continue to be on this podcast and say the stuff he says. We police ourselves, I will say. Like, we cut out a lot of the stuff he says.

• 1:33:44Speaker 04

  We have to.

• 1:33:45Doug DeMuro?

  It's insane.

• 1:33:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:33:46Doug DeMuro?

  Because we don't wanna be associated with it.

• 1:33:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:33:49Doug DeMuro?

  But the, but the overlords have never said anything, right? They've certainly never said anything to me. I don't know how much they're even paying attention, to be honest.

• 1:33:57Speaker 04

  Some of them listen. Shout out to them.

• 1:33:59Doug DeMuro?

  But like, we've never, certainly never been told that to you, and that is the thing that makes this podcast the best. I think the thing that people don't understand about this business is that a lot of the media that you're consuming is more curated than you realize. A lot of the people doing car reviews, a lot of the people who are doing podcasts are being very careful not to say certain things, or to say certain things. And both in the car review space and in the online auction space. And I, I can't speak for the two of you. I know you care. I don't care.

• 1:34:28Speaker 00

  Blowing ad budget on metrics that look great till the CFO sees them? That's bullspend, and marketers are calling it out in Dashboard Confessions.

• 1:34:38Speaker 01

  I remember telling my boss, it'll be good for the brand, when leads were slow. Yeah, it, it wasn't.

• 1:34:46Speaker 00

  Cut the bullspend. LinkedIn lets you target by company, job title, and more. Advertise on LinkedIn. Spend $250 on your first campaign and get a $250 credit. Go to LinkedIn.com/campaign. Terms and conditions apply.

• 1:34:59Speaker 05

  I really don't, I don't even work here. What are you gonna do, fire me?

• 1:35:03Speaker 04

  I, I view one of the things that propelled your career and growth is a

• 1:35:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, agreed.

• 1:35:10Speaker 04

  Maybe it's somewhere between a realness and ambivalence about what you say, or like a like a lack of fear.

• 1:35:16Speaker 05

  It was getting the cars from the dealers, so he didn't have to worry about biting the hand.

• 1:35:19Doug DeMuro?

  That helped a ton.

• 1:35:20Speaker 04

  There's a real transparency element that I think has always been true. And so even when I've kind of internally be like, oh, can't believe we're saying that. It's like, no, but that, that, that is who we are.

• 1:35:29Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. And I think the audience likes us for it. And if I'm honest, I think that selling the business and, and being financially free has also helped me. And I think there's pros and cons of that. Like people say, oh, Doug's spoiled. He doesn't understand this, that. And I get that criticism, but the flip side is that like, ain't no one coming. If someone called me, you can't do that. Well, all right, I'm, what are you gonna do? You know, like, I'm not dependent on you. And I think that that's always been really beneficial since it has happened.

• 1:35:57Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:35:57Doug DeMuro?

  Um, Filippo's Corvette man.

• 1:35:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:36:00Doug DeMuro?

  Question for you from Velder 5050. Where do you see the manual C7ZR1 market going? Will these continue to appreciate 2X pass sticker? Have you been paying attention to this?

• 1:36:10Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:36:11Doug DeMuro?

  You know what these cars?

• 1:36:11Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. No, I noticed. I just saw the one that you guys, the, the mothers.

• 1:36:14Doug DeMuro?

  This wasn't out of the realm, though. This is what they sell for.

• 1:36:16Speaker 05

  I know.

• 1:36:17Doug DeMuro?

  It's wild. That we, so we sold this C7ZR1 from Mothers for $222,000. The sticker was 144, not that long ago.

• 1:36:25Speaker 04

  7,000 miles.

• 1:36:26Doug DeMuro?

  Um, they are really taken off. Now, everyone agrees the C8 is dynamically a better car. It's cooler, it looks cooler, all that, but it did not have a manual. And so in the same way that, you know, the last of the manual Ferraris and all that, the last of the manual Corvettes is having the same sort of moment. Uh, and boy, are these expensive.

• 1:36:43Speaker 04

  It's a great car.

• 1:36:44Doug DeMuro?

  It's a great car. It looks cool as hell. The ZTK thing with the giant wing.

• 1:36:48Speaker 04

  Yeah. I can't imagine it going to 3X MSRP, though, just only because like Vipers, theory, 5th gen Vipers are in a similar boat. It's the end of that. And those are at a bit above that MSRP if memory serves.

• 1:37:00Doug DeMuro?

  Corvettes are more special, though, and this is a very special Corvette.

• 1:37:03Speaker 04

  The fact that it's the end is meaningful. We've sold a 5th gen recently.

• 1:37:07Doug DeMuro?

  Like to a, to a collector, like the most special Corvettes are worth way more than the most special Vipers. You see, you see split windows and fuel.

• 1:37:15Speaker 04

  True, true. I, but I, I feel like they have a

• 1:37:19Doug DeMuro?

  This is the modern day split window.

• 1:37:20Speaker 04

  Some of the stigma will hold.

• 1:37:21Doug DeMuro?

  I don't know that it will. I never thought CTSV wagons would floor and go up. GM cars, some of them are pretty desirable.

• 1:37:29Speaker 04

  I, I think it's

• 1:37:29Doug DeMuro?

  Better than Ford's.

• 1:37:31Speaker 04

  I think it's an incredibly desirable car, but I don't see it having the upswing that the Ford GT had. Cause the Ford GT was like a standalone model.

• 1:37:38Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, I agree with that.

• 1:37:39Speaker 04

  And it's way more special, more limited than, than this. This is probably a dynamically better car. And it deserves the 50% above MSRP that it's at right now. I could imagine going up a bit, but I don't think it's a runaway.

• 1:37:50Doug DeMuro?

  I don't think it's ever a 700 car, at least 700 in today's dollars, but I do think it could be someday. Yeah. More than it currently is, even accounting

• 1:37:58Speaker 05

  As a classic or basically once it's at that stage, maybe.

• 1:38:00Doug DeMuro?

  I think there will be a period of people who look back on some of these last of the last.

• 1:38:04Speaker 04

  And it is the last of the big front engine.

• 1:38:08Doug DeMuro?

  Manual transmission, rear wheel drive.

• 1:38:09Speaker 04

  Yes. I can't think of one for sale right now.

• 1:38:12Doug DeMuro?

  Like if you think of F430s being the last of a certain thing, and if you think of Ford GT and Carrera GT, like there are these, a lot of these last of the last cars do have some value. This one being a version of the Corvette, I think will hold it back. But I do think it's going to continue to be, like, I think you could buy this at 223 and feel pretty confident. Your investment is gonna be at least safe. Unlike in a XC90.

• 1:38:32Speaker 04

  I'd buy, but I wouldn't buy expecting doubling in the next year.

• 1:38:35Doug DeMuro?

  I agree with that. Uh, next question.

• 1:38:37Speaker 05

  There's any cars you can truly expect that on, but yeah, digress.

• 1:38:41Doug DeMuro?

  Next question, uh, I want to do two more questions. We're late, but you know what?

• 1:38:45Speaker 05

  See how he weaved in the, the Ford was a better investment into that, by the way?

• 1:38:49Speaker 04

  No, the Ford GT that we were talking about.

• 1:38:50Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, next, two more questions, two more questions. Uh, first off, uh, maybe three. First off, from, we'll go ahead fast, from Dehan Badenhorst1398. Have any of you been around the Nürburgring? Would any of you like to?

• 1:39:05Speaker 05

  Never been.

• 1:39:06Speaker 04

  No, yes.

• 1:39:07Doug DeMuro?

  Never been, would love to. When I go to Europe, I make a rule about not doing car things. It's always a family trip. I really don't want. But he's like, go to the factory. I never have wanted to do that. It's never been interesting to me.

• 1:39:17Speaker 04

  Same.

• 1:39:17Doug DeMuro?

  Um, Sean's popped his head up. He was, but we are going to Willow Springs on October 17th. Between him and him, you want to know who makes me say stuff? Whoever asked that last question? Him!

• 1:39:28Speaker 04

  No, I don't have that kind of power. I've tried. I've tried.

• 1:39:32Doug DeMuro?

  The reason he agreed to come on the pod is so that he could be a mouthpiece and interject cars and bids. He didn't, he never wanted to do the pod, but once he was like, you know, I could promo cars and bids.

• 1:39:41Speaker 04

  No comment.

• 1:39:42Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, I would love to do the Nürburgring someday, though. I think it'd be cool.

• 1:39:45Speaker 04

  Have you never been? Have you been to Germany? Have you been to Europe?

• 1:39:48Doug DeMuro?

  He doesn't try.

• 1:39:48Speaker 05

  I've been to Europe many times.

• 1:39:50Speaker 04

  Have you been to the country?

• 1:39:50Speaker 05

  Never been to Germany. Been to London several times, France, Italy.

• 1:39:54Doug DeMuro?

  I've known him for 10 years. Never gone to Europe for the time I've known him.

• 1:39:57Speaker 04

  We did find that video when he went to, where in France?

• 1:39:59Speaker 05

  I might be going to London next week, dude.

• 1:40:01Doug DeMuro?

  Whoa. Whoa. So might I. You never know.

• 1:40:05Speaker 05

  No, like it's being actively discussed amongst people.

• 1:40:10Doug DeMuro?

  Oh, people are discussing it. He might make it to the Nürburgring then.

• 1:40:16Doug DeMuro?

  That's great.

• 1:40:17Speaker 04

  I like the position you're in.

• 1:40:18Doug DeMuro?

  What would you drive, if you could drive anything on the Nürburgring?

• 1:40:22Speaker 05

  A Veyron, probably.

• 1:40:24Speaker 04

  No, I think that the answer, if you're just starting out, is something that's not that fast. Like it's a GTI, something in that realm.

• 1:40:31Doug DeMuro?

  Of course, that's the answer. He's an idiot.

• 1:40:34Speaker 05

  I wasn't given these restraints. If we're dreaming here, why would I dream?

• 1:40:38Speaker 04

  Would you want to? You will die. You spent, you, you spent out of mercy at Chuck Wall.

• 1:40:44Speaker 05

  A Veyron in the press color.

• 1:40:47Speaker 04

  For which version?

• 1:40:48Speaker 05

  We don't know.

• 1:40:49Doug DeMuro?

  Doesn't matter to him. Um, okay, two more questions. Number one from Davey Chirico. Dear Doug, who does all the thumbnails for your Sunday videos? I want to shake their hand and have them be a guest on the pod. The five cars that got away video thumbnails, the greatest, but all of them are amazing. Love the attention to tiny details. Do you want to talk about McMike?

• 1:41:06Speaker 04

  I love McMike.

• 1:41:06Doug DeMuro?

  Have you met McMike?

• 1:41:07Speaker 04

  Of course I've met McMike.

• 1:41:09Doug DeMuro?

  The guy who does the thumbnail, we've temporarily paused Sunday videos, but we'll be back in some form, uh, doing something. I don't know. And McMike has done my Sunday, uh, thumbnails. And he is the guy, he's just a guy in Washington DC who we knew from years ago, from when I used to post on Jalopnik, but he is like the most creative and funniest person that I've met in my entire life. And he creates these incredible thumbnails. And like, how I got started.

• 1:41:33Speaker 04

  He does spend real time on details.

• 1:41:35Doug DeMuro?

  So many great details. And he sends them to me beforehand and he's like, is this okay? And I'm like, it's never not okay. Everything you come up with is beautiful.

• 1:41:42Speaker 04

  What are the five cars?

• 1:41:44Doug DeMuro?

  I don't, I don't, I don't remember like where they all are, but they're, McMike is my thumbnail guy. And he's just a guy. He like, he like lives in suburban Washington DC in Northern Virginia on a cul-de-sac. And he's a car enthusiast.

• 1:41:55Speaker 04

  He drives a Eurovan?

• 1:41:56Doug DeMuro?

  He drives, he drives a Vanagon.

• 1:41:58Speaker 04

  A Vanagon.

• 1:41:58Doug DeMuro?

  Um, uh,

• 1:41:59Speaker 05

  Or dead years ago. I haven't seen him in years.

• 1:42:02Doug DeMuro?

  No, I think he still does. And, and that's McMike. And he's just the greatest person ever to exist. Have you ever met McMike?

• 1:42:07Speaker 05

  No, I don't think so.

• 1:42:08Doug DeMuro?

  Someday, I would love it if McMike could come to San Diego and be on our podcast. Now that Filippo's gone, maybe McMike is exactly what we would need.

• 1:42:16Speaker 04

  Maybe.

• 1:42:17Doug DeMuro?

  He's actually in person somewhat of a reserved and reasonable character, despite the fact that he makes these incredible thumbnails. So that's my thumbnails.

• 1:42:24Speaker 04

  Love McMike.

• 1:42:25Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, final question. Uh, Veyron.

• 1:42:32Speaker 05

  If I was already on a fictitious trip, why not?

• 1:42:36Speaker 04

  You're not wrong.

• 1:42:36Speaker 05

  I'm gonna pick a 3rd gen Altima.

• 1:42:38Speaker 04

  It's because you were talking about it.

• 1:42:40Speaker 05

  But the, with the V6, that's already something.

• 1:42:42Doug DeMuro?

  From Oscar Lubider 8388. Dear Doug, big fan of the pod. Congratulations on your new Supra and your station wagon. Do you ever worry about the safety aspect associated with driving your kids around these older 90s cars? I've made it no secret that I've driven my kids in my 993, my Audi RS2, et cetera. Does it worry me? A little. I really only take those cars on, on littler trips.

• 1:43:02Doug DeMuro?

  I've heard people call them zip code cars where you don't like leave your zip code in. And that's pretty much when I'm with the kids, the Supra I take to LA and all that, it doesn't bother me by, by myself, but with the kids, I generally take them to school. You know, to the, to the playground.

• 1:43:16Speaker 04

  Neighborhood short distance.

• 1:43:17Doug DeMuro?

  Like various little places, birthday parties, but like I, we don't, we don't really go long distances in those cars for that reason. Yes, it does worry me. Now, there's a lot of people are, well, we survived that era. So it's fine. And obviously that's how Nick feels. But I prefer the modern safety stuff. My daily driver car, which is a brand new Mercedes station wagon, is very safe. And that's mostly what we're driving. How do you feel when you drive your kids around without car seats in, uh, in the abject trash that you purchase?

• 1:43:47Speaker 05

  Whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 1:43:49Doug DeMuro?

  Or are given for free.

• 1:43:51Speaker 05

  All right. They, they use car seats and sometimes boosters, depending on sort of the car and situation.

• 1:43:58Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah. Do they ever not use anything?

• 1:43:59Speaker 05

  I, I mean, if, if we're going on, to your point, if we're going on a road trip like to Arizona, then they're, they're in our safest car and in our safest car seats. And if it's a quick little trip and they want to sit in the third row and, you know, it's, it's fine.

• 1:44:12Speaker 04

  Seat belts fit.

• 1:44:13Speaker 05

  Fine.

• 1:44:13Doug DeMuro?

  Or not at all. Um, interesting. Interesting. Have you ever considered buying a German station wagon just to take a child home from the hospital?

• 1:44:23Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:44:25Doug DeMuro?

  What did you take your children home from the hospital then?

• 1:44:28Speaker 05

  The first one? So I had special cars at the time.

• 1:44:30Doug DeMuro?

  Oh.

• 1:44:31Speaker 05

  But I was worried, this was during COVID, so like you, you gave birth to your child and you had to like stay there and lock down and whatnot. So we took our Ford Focus, because I was worried about door dings in the parking garage.

• 1:44:44Speaker 05

  The second car, I think we took the Cayenne, but again, I was like, oh, it's gonna sit outside, not in a garage. And like, I don't want all these like senior citizens trampling all over it. So we, we, we never, I didn't take special cars. That wasn't my thing.

• 1:44:56Doug DeMuro?

  That's sad. Filippo, what are you gonna take a future, potential future child home from the hospital?

• 1:45:00Speaker 04

  Whatever car we own.

• 1:45:01Speaker 05

  A Ford.

• 1:45:02Doug DeMuro?

  A Ford.

• 1:45:02Speaker 05

  It better be Ford.

• 1:45:03Doug DeMuro?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:04Speaker 04

  Whatever car.

• 1:45:04Speaker 05

  F250 in that little gun rack in the bottom of the bed.

• 1:45:07Speaker 04

  Would never.

• 1:45:08Doug DeMuro?

  You can, you know, legally, if you don't have a backseat, you can put a child seat in the front seat.

• 1:45:11Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:45:12Doug DeMuro?

  So he could throw them in the pickup.

• 1:45:14Speaker 05

  So my SLR could be driving around with my kids in?

• 1:45:16Doug DeMuro?

  If you throw out the airbag, I think legally, yes.

• 1:45:18Speaker 04

  As long as you can turn out the airbag. I think you can in that.

• 1:45:20Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, that's our podcast. It's an absolute pleasure. One of our finest podcasts of all time. Remember, last week, tomorrow, next week is Filippo's final podcast. We'll never see him again after next week. I'm dead serious. Ask all your Filippo related questions.

• 1:45:33Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:45:34Doug DeMuro?

  Uh, submit your car for the Willow Springs event, October 17. We're getting together a great group of cars. It's, we're gonna promote the hell out of them. So if you have a great car, this is your chance to sell it with us. And, um, Nicky Lube forever. Goodbye, everybody.