Englands Winning The World Cup & Surviving Temu Ayahuasca

Yeerrrr we're back once again and we're talking: - France getting KOed by Spain - Lamine Yamal running the numbers up - Messi being the best autist - Alexx's Ayahuasca experience - Jay-Z's Yankee Stadium Shows - Is it over for Conor McGregor? - Turkiye is a g4y factory - That poor man getting got by the Buffalo and much, much more - you're welcome Timestamps: 0:00 France KOed + Yamal’s record & Big H 3:37 Do Euros getting AIDS? 4:49 Lamine’s little bro 5:33 Lamine’s girls + Spain’s immigration 9:10 Rep where you were fed 14:48 AI video, Stuffed raccoon + Messi with autism 20:51 Messi & Ronaldinho + Recency bias 24:01 Basketball analogy + We need Zlatan 29:23 It’s coming home 31:34 Fra v Mor + Falklands Rerun 37:09 Alexx’s Ayahuasca experience 56:31 Figuring it out? DMT experiences 1:01:52 Jay-Z 3rd show delay + Everyone was there 1:12:47 McGregor’s fight was tragic 1:21:10 McGregor’s response after + Is it over? 1:26:48 Mitch doing GREAT + Lindsey Graham droned?? 1:31:52 Old people are LIT + Term limits 1:37:20 LeBron’s next team + We don’t want him 1:42:05 Turkiye’s g4y + The least gay 1:52:36 Louis aren’t gay + Persian Princess = diabolical 1:57:21 Alexx is a PHONEY 1:59:32 Buffalo picnic + Running of the bulls 2:02:12 Trying to jump the fence This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  What's up everybody, welcome to Flavre. Quick reminder, the Knicks are the champions of the world. France just got knocked the fuck out of the cup, Mark.

• 0:08Speaker 01

  I know, I know.

• 0:09Speaker 00

  Just got knocked out, literally minutes ago, just got knocked out, okay?

• 0:14Speaker 01

  It was a good game.

• 0:14Speaker 00

  Alex is fresh off of doing Team Iwaska, is what Neil Brennan called it. He got a group on for ayahuasca and went to some lady's Airbnb in New Jersey and did it and he has he has lived to see another day, so we will get back to that in a second. But first of all, France, because part of the ayahuasca journey is about maybe connecting to lost and past lives and all these kind of things. You have just experienced a great loss, right? As France has just been rightfully knocked the fuck up out of the World Cup.

• 0:44Speaker 01

  You don't say it like that. They lost. It was a tough game, they lost to a good team.

• 0:49Speaker 00

  I didn't see much of it.

• 0:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's for the best.

• 0:52Speaker 00

  I didn't see much of it.

• 0:53Speaker 01

  Not their best showing, you could say that.

• 0:54Speaker 00

  You guys watched the whole game?

• 0:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:56Speaker 00

  And what do you think? Do you think that, what do you think the difference was?

• 1:02Speaker 01

  They didn't show up.

• 1:03Speaker 00

  They didn't show up?

• 1:04Speaker 01

  They just had a bad game.

• 1:05Speaker 00

  But Argentina doesn't show up and they have help from?

• 1:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, because they have Infantino, they have maybe Israel.

• 1:11Speaker 00

  Who's the best player on Argentina?

• 1:13Speaker 01

  A lot of people behind Argentina.

• 1:14Speaker 00

  Is it BBN Yahoo or Infantino?

• 1:16Speaker 01

  It's difficult to say. Twitter, if you go by Twitter, it's all the above. It's, they have, they have them, they have Hitler, I think.

• 1:22Speaker 00

  Hitler was helpful?

• 1:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was in Argentina for a while.

• 1:24Speaker 00

  So he's still over there?

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was helping them out.

• 1:26Speaker 00

  Do you think Goebbels invented the HDH that they put Messi on?

• 1:30Speaker 01

  It was a fucking Mengele science experiment, that's what it was.

• 1:33Speaker 00

  Yes, Mengele, not Goebbels.

• 1:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, but type shit.

• 1:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, type shit, type shit.

• 1:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what it was. But no, the boys didn't show up, it wasn't great. It wasn't great. Alisa wasn't there, Lamine Yamal was just cutting up Dina on the outside, it just was not.

• 1:46Speaker 00

  Lamine Yamal, dude.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. Kind of a beast. A legend.

• 1:50Speaker 00

  I mean, he was making girls catch fucking charges.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  Whoa, what?

• 1:54Speaker 00

  When he was like 16 or 17, wasn't he cracking shorties that were like 27 years old? He was under 18 smashing like celebrity chicks in Spain.

• 2:03Speaker 01

  As he should.

• 2:04Speaker 00

  They were, he was making them catch charges.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  Oh, I thought he, oh, I thought he was putting that on.

• 2:10Speaker 00

  Stay with me, my boy. I'm not putting that on, my man, stay with me. I said he was making them. Like, his ability to play the game of soccer, football.

• 2:18Speaker 01

  Football.

• 2:19Speaker 00

  Yes. Um, made women not care about statutory laws.

• 2:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:24Speaker 01

  Uh, it seems that way.

• 2:25Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. When I was out there, they said that he had the herpes.

• 2:27Speaker 00

  He had the, Jesus.

• 2:29Mark Gagnon?

  The herpes, cause he was fucking so much.

• 2:30Speaker 00

  Why, why, why would you put that on him, bro?

• 2:33Mark Gagnon?

  His people said that.

• 2:34Speaker 00

  Can I just say one thing?

• 2:35Mark Gagnon?

  His people.

• 2:35Speaker 01

  This is what Spaniards always do.

• 2:36Mark Gagnon?

  And they don't even look at it.

• 2:37Speaker 00

  Can, can we just say one thing?

• 2:38Speaker 01

  Please.

• 2:39Speaker 00

  That's a legendary hater.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:42Speaker 00

  That right there is a legendary.

• 2:44Speaker 01

  Even in victory, even in victory.

• 2:46Speaker 00

  Hypothetical herpes on an eighteen year old?

• 2:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, with braces.

• 2:50Speaker 00

  He's not stealing pussy from you.

• 2:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, but they were saying it like they were proud of.

• 2:54Speaker 00

  Yo, son, just tell me how your girl watches the game, bro. Just tell me how your girl watches the game.

• 2:58Mark Gagnon?

  She not getting ruined for him a little bit too much. A little bit too much, a little bit too much.

• 3:01Speaker 00

  He's bumpy.

• 3:02Speaker 01

  We need to see her jersey. Her jersey might have the name on it. That's like, god damn.

• 3:05Speaker 00

  Oh, can she wear your mall jersey?

• 3:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a pedophile.

• 3:12Speaker 00

  Yo, but Al, do you want to take that back, that, that allegatione?

• 3:16Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think he does. I'm just saying what I heard when I was in Barcelona.

• 3:19Speaker 00

  And why would somebody within the home country say such a horrific rumor about a young man like that?

• 3:24Mark Gagnon?

  Taking it down like that.

• 3:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:26Mark Gagnon?

  Maybe he's taking down the French. That's why. He probably got it from them.

• 3:29Speaker 00

  You think so? I don't think French people get STDs.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know about that. I think it started there.

• 3:33Speaker 00

  Can I ask you?

• 3:34Mark Gagnon?

  Maybe fucking the most.

• 3:34Speaker 00

  Can I ask you an honest question?

• 3:38Speaker 00

  Do Europeans get AIDS?

• 3:42Speaker 01

  That, that's a good point because people accuse Europeans of being gay all the time. And then I don't know if the epidemic hit them that like that, you know?

• 3:49Speaker 00

  If I'm being honest, I don't think they was getting after it.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  Were they faking it?

• 3:54Speaker 00

  Getting after it. I think they were just gay, but acted like straights.

• 3:59Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 4:00Speaker 00

  So they would have maybe casual sex, but not too crazy.

• 4:03Speaker 01

  Whereas in America, everyone was acting straight.

• 4:05Speaker 00

  They free, they free.

• 4:06Speaker 01

  They were gay.

• 4:07Speaker 00

  They were free. No, no, no. They were, they was, they were, how do I say it? They were, they were, uh, some of them earned it. Nobody earned it. You know what I mean?

• 4:22Speaker 01

  Let me see, let me see the statistics.

• 4:23Speaker 00

  My boy, alright, so Emma's best friend is gay. He told me, he told me they got a new, they got a thing called doxy. Where you take that after you have sex and it cleans everything out of your system, no matter what STD you get, except AIDS. And then they got a thing called PrEP that you take all the time and that stops you from getting AIDS. So, front door, back door STDs, they've figured out.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  That's kinda smart.

• 4:47Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, wait, the PrEP they take even if they don't have AIDS? I thought they take that once they got the AIDS.

• 4:51Speaker 00

  No, no, you take it to stop you from ever getting it. It's a goalie.

• 4:55Mark Gagnon?

  Get the fuck outta here.

• 4:56Speaker 00

  Bro, they figured it out.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  Is it like a statin?

• 4:59Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  The one thing that does make me happy about Lameen Yamal winning is seeing his little brother.

• 5:02Mark Gagnon?

  His brother, right?

• 5:04Speaker 00

  How would they do it, like?

• 5:07Speaker 01

  I actually was thinking that, I don't know.

• 5:08Speaker 00

  Is that a crazy thing to say? Like, is it same, is it same parents or different?

• 5:12Mark Gagnon?

  I would imagine different parents. I mean, different dad.

• 5:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. I don't know the exact science. I'm gonna look into this real quick.

• 5:19Mark Gagnon?

  I think it's different dad. I think that's his dad holding him. I don't think.

• 5:21Speaker 00

  Oh, okay, God.

• 5:22Mark Gagnon?

  Means that.

• 5:23Speaker 00

  I mean, he's so cute.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  Cute as hell.

• 5:25Mark Gagnon?

  But they are so cute together, like.

• 5:28Speaker 00

  Oh, they're like homies?

• 5:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, homies, yeah, yeah. He's, he's at everything. It's so fun.

• 5:33Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 5:33Mark Gagnon?

  That's all he wants.

• 5:34Speaker 00

  It's really crazy that you would put out that Ali Gazzione on him like that with no evidence to back it up.

• 5:38Mark Gagnon?

  Son, Europe, that's not a bad thing.

• 5:45Speaker 00

  Hold on.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  They're like.

• 5:47Speaker 00

  Hold on, hold on.

• 5:49Mark Gagnon?

  They're a fine culture, like, it's like, come on.

• 5:51Speaker 00

  So they're not really worried about herpes or those types of STDs?

• 5:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it's like siesta herpes.

• 5:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, I think if, if your dick looks like the semolina bread, then it's a problem. That's my personal opinion. If you go to an Italian restaurant and they just immediately bring you some olive oil and Lameen Yamal's dick.

• 6:16Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know that.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  It's a little fun.

• 6:19Speaker 00

  Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

• 6:22Speaker 01

  It is his half brother, for the record.

• 6:24Speaker 00

  It's his half brother.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  His half brother, they have the same mom. They have the same mother.

• 6:29Speaker 00

  How, why'd you make it spotted, bro?

• 6:33Mark Gagnon?

  It would be spotted, right?

• 6:34Speaker 00

  Nah, nah, nah, nah. We gotta take that off of him, I mean, wipe that clear of him, wipe that clear.

• 6:38Speaker 01

  Ali Gattuso is crazy. He's 19, and he's a devout Muslim.

• 6:42Mark Gagnon?

  Word?

• 6:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, 100%.

• 6:44Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  No, he is.

• 6:45Mark Gagnon?

  He's one of like the, the new age ones.

• 6:47Speaker 01

  Nah, I don't think he, he doesn't. He doesn't drink water during Ramadan, he's a, he's a real one. I'm pretty sure. Unless you know something, I don't know.

• 6:56Mark Gagnon?

  I know he's not married. I know he's dicking now, bitches over there, so.

• 7:01Speaker 00

  How do you know that, though?

• 7:02Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I know, like, it's, it's, everybody knows.

• 7:04Speaker 00

  Is that true?

• 7:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 7:07Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 7:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 7:08Speaker 00

  Mark doesn't seem like he wants to confirm it.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  I, I have no information, other than I've seen him.

• 7:13Speaker 00

  Mark Williams is in any conspiracy. I know, right? Just on the internet, besides, let me and you all get some pussy.

• 7:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I know.

• 7:18Speaker 00

  That's the one, that's a little bit too far.

• 7:20Speaker 01

  Well, I did see a video, maybe, of him with a girl. And I was like, wait a second, maybe there's something going on.

• 7:26Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I, maybe this is AI, we've been AI before on this.

• 7:30Speaker 00

  I don't think we were AI'd, man.

• 7:32Mark Gagnon?

  You see?

• 7:34Speaker 01

  This is him with his, his sweet devout Muslim girlfriend.

• 7:37Mark Gagnon?

  Uh huh.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  And they're just hanging out, having a great time, enjoying themselves.

• 7:42Speaker 00

  Uh huh. That's the boy.

• 7:44Mark Gagnon?

  That was the hello, that was a little hello on the cheek, they do that out there.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is, seems like a good, regular old relationship, you know?

• 7:51Speaker 00

  Is there, is there a version where his impact on this team makes Spain change their stance on immigration?

• 8:01Speaker 01

  Hmm, maybe.

• 8:02Speaker 00

  Because.

• 8:03Mark Gagnon?

  What do you mean? They're the most inviting.

• 8:05Speaker 00

  Well, I think, but I think people in Spain are frustrated by it. The same thing you're hearing all over Europe.

• 8:10Speaker 01

  They might need to change the city names a little bit.

• 8:12Speaker 00

  Like Granada, you can't do it?

• 8:14Speaker 01

  Wait, what, what is that?

• 8:15Speaker 00

  Granada.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  But what's it named after?

• 8:17Speaker 00

  I don't know, I imagine some Muslims.

• 8:20Speaker 00

  All the cities in southern Spain are super Muslim.

• 8:23Speaker 01

  The one that I'm talking about that's crazy is Matamoros.

• 8:26Speaker 00

  Kill the Moors. Kill the Muslims.

• 8:29Speaker 01

  Wow. It's just the name of a town.

• 8:33Speaker 00

  Is that really a place?

• 8:34Speaker 01

  I'm almost positive, I gotta double check.

• 8:35Speaker 00

  We gotta check the immigration population there to see if they-

• 8:37Mark Gagnon?

  But you know they're like, they made some new law where all the illegals there, there's a path for citizenship.

• 8:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think it was much the chagrin of the Spanish.

• 8:48Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, the government is doing it.

• 8:49Speaker 00

  I know, I know. I think it's one of those things where it's like, there is a left-wing progressive government, but there are also people there who maybe are frustrated by it. Same thing that's existing around the world. It's like, economic insecurity, people going, "Wait, why are we giving all this money to these people who are coming here when the people here are suffering?"

• 9:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, so the people might be against it, but the fact that they're even doing that, no other country right now is doing that. We're trying to kick everybody out.

• 9:11Speaker 00

  How many, how many you gotta let in to get a La Minha mall? You know what I mean? Like, I don't think we do the numbers on that enough. You know, like, how many we gotta let in? Is it, is it like 10,000, 100,000?

• 9:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, I mean-

• 9:26Speaker 00

  And also, the Spanish had great players from Spain, so they don't really need to let anybody in.

• 9:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it helps, you know?

• 9:32Speaker 00

  It helps.

• 9:32Mark Gagnon?

  It doesn't hurt you. You sourced all the best from all over the world, you're gonna have a team like that that just bust they ass.

• 9:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, but they also got a team from all the other places as well.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  Those players are born in France, those are French-

• 9:43Mark Gagnon?

  That's why they suck.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Those are diehard Frenchmen, dude.

• 9:45Mark Gagnon?

  That's why they suck.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  All of them are born in France.

• 9:46Speaker 00

  Everybody on the French team is born in France?

• 9:48Speaker 01

  I think there's two or three guys that weren't.

• 9:50Speaker 00

  Was you telling me the Morocco team, a lot of them were born in France?

• 9:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, almost all of them. I think Morocco feel the first team where none of them were born in the country.

• 9:56Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  Like, their 11 players were all born outside of Morocco.

• 10:01Speaker 00

  How many, I don't think you gotta be born, but I think if, you've heard my take on this.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  You gotta be fed.

• 10:05Speaker 00

  You have to be fed.

• 10:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 10:06Speaker 00

  Whoever feeds you, that's, that's where you're from.

• 10:08Mark Gagnon?

  For how long?

• 10:10Speaker 00

  I would say, after titty milk.

• 10:15Speaker 00

  I would say, once you get off the titty, that's, whatever country you're in, that's where you're from. That's where you can represent in a physical activity.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  But I think you can go down, though. Like, if you don't make the main team, I think you can fall back.

• 10:29Speaker 01

  Come on. I think, I think-

• 10:31Speaker 00

  How far back can I go? Can I go back to Africa? Like if I trace my roots, if I can trace, if I can 23 and me myself back to wherever in Africa.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  It might be more than 23.

• 10:44Speaker 00

  But like to wherever we evolved from in Africa, right?

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 10:48Speaker 00

  Can I go play for that team? Like, how far back can we go?

• 10:51Speaker 01

  Grandparents.

• 10:52Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, grandparents.

• 10:52Speaker 00

  So there's a limit.

• 10:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's a limit.

• 10:54Mark Gagnon?

  Grandparents.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  But then you could fall back if you don't make the main one. Like, let's say you were born and raised in France, and then you can't make the French team, you're like, alright, fine, I'll go play for Algeria.

• 11:02Speaker 00

  But isn't that an example that like you failed your parents? Like your grandparents or your parents or grandparents moved to another country to give you a better life?

• 11:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:11Speaker 00

  And you're like, alright, I'm going back.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  But that's the thing, they're not even going back, they're playing the tournament in America.

• 11:18Speaker 00

  Nah, you gotta live there, you gotta experience no AC, you gotta experience no fucking ice in the soda. Like, you have to live a little bit like you're from that country.

• 11:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, for like a month, maybe.

• 11:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I think the American players should have to do that, too.

• 11:29Mark Gagnon?

  The players in Morocco, they don't live there?

• 11:31Speaker 00

  Nah, come on, son. Really? There are elite players that are probably playing for most teams in Europe, right?

• 11:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:37Speaker 00

  So like, they're gonna play at the team that they play for.

• 11:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but I thought to play for the country, you either have to live there for five years, or one, your parents or grandparents have to be from there. I thought that was a rule.

• 11:48Speaker 01

  They have to have like some type of citizenship that they can get.

• 11:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but you can't just get citizenship without living there.

• 11:53Speaker 00

  If you're nice, if you're nice. You saw Saudi Arabia made it okay to live with a woman you're not married to for Cristiano Ronaldo. They changed the rules of Islam.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  You have to be engaged. Final, give her a ring, whatever.

• 12:05Speaker 00

  He still calls her his girlfriend. That shit is adorable. Like, in interviews, he's like, yeah, my girlfriend, it's like, y'all got seven kids, what the fuck are we talking about, my girlfriend? He refuses to lock it down.

• 12:17Mark Gagnon?

  Wow.

• 12:17Speaker 00

  Isn't there like, just get a prenup or something and lock it down, why not?

• 12:23Mark Gagnon?

  He's worried about that, you think?

• 12:24Speaker 00

  I don't think he gotta worry about anything, cause he's Cristiano Ronaldo, he exists on another... Like, or do you, you know how like women are incredibly good at just getting like used to whatever their life is? Like, do you think going through her head is, alright, my husband's Cristiano Ronaldo, let me not fucking ruin this shit, this is awesome? Or do you think she's at the point... Where she's like, you gotta go play for a billion dollars in fucking Saudi Arabia. You want me to move to Saudi Arabia?

• 12:49Mark Gagnon?

  I think it's the latter.

• 12:50Speaker 00

  Important update for shows. Remember, the shows in Brea, California were moved. Again, I apologize about this. The movie schedule moved, so I had to shift things with that as far as being on the West Coast. So instead of being last weekend, they're going to be this weekend, okay? The 23rd to the 25th. Anybody who had tickets to those shows before, those are going to be good for this show. If you can't go for whatever reason, they'll absolutely give you a refund. And we have added two more shows on Thursday, the 23rd. So if there are tickets still available for those, you can go get those right now. Thank you guys so much. I appreciate it, and I'm very sorry for any inconvenience. People traveling in for the shows, etc. I sincerely apologize.

• 13:32Speaker 00

  Reach out, DM me if there's any kind of issue, and I'll do my best to make sure I make it up for you wherever you live when we come do a show there. Also, Halifax, Nova Scotia, we are coming out there August 8th. Great Outdoors Fest, Garrison Grounds, some of you guys, the old OGs, call it Citadel Hill. We're going to be out there, amazing show. Mark Gagnon coming, Cam Patterson from SNL Kill Tony coming, Lucas Zelenik coming, Rory Gardner coming. It's going to be a hell of a show. So grab tickets at theandrewshoals.com for both of those shows. We're going to be adding some more shows in different cities in the very near future, so stay tuned.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  What's up, people? Great news. I'm going to be coming to a bunch of cities at the end of the year to do stand-up comedy. I would love for you guys to join me. I'm going to Plano, Texas, Chandler, Arizona, Pasadena, California, San Diego, Detroit, and Salt Lake City. I would love for you all to come on out. I'll see you guys at the shows.

• 14:21Mark Gagnon?

  And guys, let's get off the internet. Let's have some fun in real life. I have my tennis clinic, Tennis for the People, and this will be July 25th. If there are six tickets left, they're all advanced spots, but fucking even if you're not advanced, just get the ticket, show up, you'll, we'll find room for you to play on the other courts. But literally, six tickets left before the sell sells out. TheAllLoveClub.com, July 25th. See you guys there. Peace.

• 14:49Speaker 03

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• 15:13Speaker 03

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• 15:19Speaker 01

  But yeah, we should make a correction here. Matamoros, not a city in Spain, city in Mexico. But named after a Spanish like legendary guy. And also, we need to correct the AI thing that we said last week that wasn't true.

• 15:29Speaker 00

  I don't think that. I think this is real.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  We got, we got.

• 15:32Mark Gagnon?

  Can't believe y'all didn't know that was AI. I knew.

• 15:34Speaker 01

  We got AI.

• 15:34Mark Gagnon?

  Y'all dumb.

• 15:35Speaker 01

  In the honor of being a proud journalist and being committed to the truth, we played this Erling Haaland video.

• 15:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:41Speaker 01

  And it was AI.

• 15:42Speaker 00

  I already know what I said.

• 15:45Speaker 01

  One of the things people pointed out was that like the patches are all a bit weird. And then people pointed out that this is the original one. This guy right here, apparently, I think. I don't even really know. Which is a way, a way funnier video.

• 15:56Speaker 00

  Is this AI or real?

• 15:59Mark Gagnon?

  That's clearly AI.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  I think this one might be the real one.

• 16:03Speaker 00

  Yo, can I just?

• 16:07Speaker 01

  This I think is the real one that they made.

• 16:08Speaker 00

  Can I just ask a question? Can I just ask a question? This is a genuine question. This is not me being insulting or nothing. Is he, is he a cousin?

• 16:18Mark Gagnon?

  Makes me laugh like that. Oh. I think this Mongolian.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, same to same, I think.

• 16:28Speaker 00

  They used to use that term.

• 16:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 16:30Speaker 00

  But is, does he have, is he syndromatic of anything?

• 16:34Mark Gagnon?

  I think so.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  He might have something cooking up.

• 16:37Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 16:37Speaker 01

  He might have something going on.

• 16:38Mark Gagnon?

  He got a mark for it.

• 16:39Speaker 00

  I don't think he.

• 16:40Speaker 01

  But he's nice with his chopsticks though, so maybe not.

• 16:42Speaker 00

  I don't think he is, but I think that he looks it.

• 16:46Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, nah, they can use forks.

• 16:49Speaker 01

  You're trying to tell me you think this guy?

• 16:54Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 16:55Speaker 00

  Come on, Sid. Come on out.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  He might just be a hardworking man.

• 16:57Speaker 00

  What you mean?

• 16:58Mark Gagnon?

  You gotta stop that shit.

• 16:59Speaker 00

  What you mean? You gotta stop that.

• 17:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 17:04Speaker 01

  But Erling Haaland might have like won the World Cup on his own. Did you see the celebration they had in Norway?

• 17:09Speaker 00

  Nah, they went crazy.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  They've been going absolutely wild. He's won hearts and minds. He came off the plane with this joint right here. Representing proud American culture.

• 17:17Speaker 00

  What was it? A bald eagle?

• 17:18Speaker 01

  Nah, it was a raccoon drinking a beer. He got some tequila.

• 17:22Speaker 00

  Is this AI? Did we get AI'd again?

• 17:24Speaker 01

  Nah, this one is real.

• 17:25Speaker 00

  Yo, you really did. I thought he brought a raccoon. I thought he was like, you gotta see these little animals. They're incredible. They'll sift through your garbage.

• 17:33Speaker 01

  I think this one is, he posted on Snapchat, like he got a bunch of taxidermy things from like some guy's like bar or something. And then was like, dude, America's fire. And brought it home. But they've been having like massive celebrations.

• 17:44Mark Gagnon?

  What's the real pick? Which is the real one?

• 17:47Speaker 01

  What? No, this is real. To my understanding, he's the one that posted this and he was like, follow me home. And he posted on Snapchat.

• 17:54Speaker 01

  But yeah, they've been, uh.

• 17:55Speaker 00

  So you think Erling Haaland won the World Cup? In terms of like every World Cup, there's a player that becomes a superstar.

• 18:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:01Speaker 00

  That everybody falls in love with. Mbappe was what? Two worlds or last one?

• 18:06Mark Gagnon?

  Last.

• 18:06Speaker 01

  2018.

• 18:07Speaker 00

  That was when he scored the hat trick in the final game?

• 18:09Speaker 01

  That was the last one, 2022 against Argentina. But they lost that game, but he got a hat trick.

• 18:13Speaker 00

  And then 2018.

• 18:15Speaker 01

  He's the young rookie that wins.

• 18:16Speaker 00

  And he goes on that crazy run.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Wins a World Cup at like 19 or whatever.

• 18:21Speaker 00

  Got it. And then, okay, so this year we think it's Erling Haaland.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then even beyond that, just like, he's so beloved.

• 18:27Speaker 00

  The personality is really fun.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:31Speaker 00

  It's almost unfair.

• 18:32Mark Gagnon?

  Skill set is there. He sag it up.

• 18:34Speaker 00

  What'd you say?

• 18:35Mark Gagnon?

  And the skill set is there.

• 18:35Speaker 00

  And the skill set is there. It's, it's, it is almost unfair when like, like for example, like Messi might not have the personality side of it. Though there are videos, you know, get, bring it up, bro. This, this went cute.

• 18:48Mark Gagnon?

  He got a little bit of that Mongoloidism.

• 18:50Speaker 01

  Have you seen the compilations of Messi being awkward?

• 18:53Speaker 00

  No, no. Oh, it's funny you use that A word.

• 18:57Speaker 00

  Use the one with, the one where he's getting interviewed by the guy and the guy. This is, everybody's like, yo, this is Messi has autism. But if you, to me, this is the most normal I've ever seen him. Is in this video.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  Looking for the horn.

• 19:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:12Speaker 01

  And he has a bunch of these kinds of moments where he just does stuff and it's like, just a little.

• 19:17Speaker 00

  A little off ski.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  A little off ski.

• 19:18Mark Gagnon?

  I think he's been working on it too, though. Like, and now it's like, he's having normal reactions and he's like crying and trying to cheer with his teammates and stuff like that. Before he used to just like walk around, just like. Yeah, we just scored. Yeah. You know, yeah, yeah, a little bit of that.

• 19:35Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, this one I hear. Okay, go.

• 19:37Speaker 01

  So this interviewer's talking to him and he's saying that it's his dream to have interviewed Leo Messi. And he begins to cry.

• 19:53Speaker 00

  But he stays in it. He stays in it. That's actually too edited. The real one, I watched the real one and that motherfucker sits in it. At first Messi laughs and leans back and the guy still is crying and saying how emotional he was and then Messi's like, "Oh, this is not a bit." And then he has to lie back into the interview.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  Oh, man. These guys. Maybe that's what makes him great, though. I forget if this is me making it up or someone said this, but they were like, "Yeah, I feel awkward in life and then when I'm on the field, I feel calm and like connected to people." And it's like, and it's like the way that he connects with human beings because he might be a little tismo.

• 20:31Speaker 00

  It's like me with tennis.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  You're like Messi.

• 20:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're just like Messi. Now, I will say this. I'm getting a lot of, uh, oh, boy, here we go.

• 20:42Speaker 01

  And then, of course, people just...

• 20:45Speaker 00

  Positing for pictures is hard, bro.

• 21:01Speaker 00

  What is this one? Oh.

• 21:02Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 21:05Speaker 01

  I'm just watching the guy drumming, just shaking his head like, "All right, nice. All right, cool." Schultz and the Hamptons, that one.

• 21:13Speaker 01

  But yeah, I mean, someone just compiling all your most awkward moments, no one looks great, but Messi in particular, he's just a little rough.

• 21:19Speaker 00

  What are, okay, I'm getting a lot of, uh, videos on there now that I've watched like a few soccer videos, so they're sending me like a lot of soccer stuff.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  Right, same.

• 21:29Speaker 00

  Are you getting the Messi-Ronaldinho compilations at all?

• 21:35Speaker 01

  Of them playing together?

• 21:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, and like their friendship and how much they love one another, whatever. No, oh, it's awesome.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's just a joy.

• 21:43Speaker 00

  I lived in Barcelona during Ronaldo's like heyday, Ronaldinho's heyday.

• 21:48Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 21:49Speaker 00

  And he was just such a beloved, like, creative character on the pitch and like... I don't know, it was really cool seeing, like, I don't know, again, they can make you think anything because you're just grabbing little moments from like years of playing.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've been seeing like Ronaldo versus Messi, like who's a better person? It'll be like Ronaldo like petting a kid's head and they're like, he's the best. And it'll be Messi like ignoring a handshake and they're like, he sucks. And it's like, just whatever side you're on, and they just find clips, it's so funny.

• 22:18Speaker 00

  But I will say, recency bias is definitely a play here, but with the amount of Messi videos and the success of, uh, what do they call them, V A Argentina?

• 22:30Speaker 00

  It, it, it looks as if, and I'm a complete expert in soccer, so you know, take this with a grain of salt. But it looks as if the conversation on Messi or Ronaldo is definitely shifting in the direction of Messi, even from the other greats talking about it. Like even other soccer players, you're seeing all these clips and going, yeah, it's Messi, it's Messi.

• 22:51Mark Gagnon?

  This was Ronaldo's chance to even it up.

• 22:53Speaker 00

  So, so you're saying Messi was ahead?

• 22:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 22:56Speaker 00

  And then if Ronaldo had an absolutely exceptional World Cup, they win it all.

• 23:01Speaker 01

  It's like, it's like, I don't even know what the NBA equivalent would be for Messi. It's like, you can.

• 23:06Speaker 00

  It's Jalen Brunson.

• 23:07Speaker 01

  If Jalen Brunson was 20 years the greatest player.

• 23:11Speaker 00

  Right.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  If, if Jalen Brunson goes on a run for the next 20, it's like the longevity of LeBron. You can score like Jordan, you have like handles like Kyrie.

• 23:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:20Speaker 01

  And you do it for 20, like, yeah, that's the only thing that compares.

• 23:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  Like, I don't even know what would be close in basketball.

• 23:25Speaker 00

  But it's interesting, what's up? Good job.

• 23:28Speaker 01

  Thank you. I read that on Instagram comment.

• 23:30Speaker 00

  But it's, it's similar to Jalen, I think, and I'm not just saying this.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  They actually do play kind of similarly.

• 23:35Speaker 00

  They're, they're undersized.

• 23:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:36Speaker 00

  They, for whatever reason, get wherever they want to go.

• 23:40Speaker 01

  In tight spaces.

• 23:41Speaker 00

  In very tight spaces, and they're not that fast. Like, I don't know if any of us would look at Messi and be like, he's got Mbappe's speed.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  But he's quick.

• 23:48Speaker 00

  But he's quick, he'll, he's quick, he gets to his spots wherever he wants to get to. And I think people used to compare it to Steph, but Steph's game is so different because there's all these like long shots.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:59Speaker 00

  Whereas like Messi's getting to the cup if he wants to get to the cup, but there's nothing you can fucking do about it.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:03Speaker 00

  So I think. They both have similarly confusing games because when you just see them, you go, there's no reason you should be so effective. And then you watch them play and you're like, you're the most effective person.

• 24:14Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. This is an all time great messy awkward moment.

• 24:18Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 24:19Speaker 01

  He's walking into like the, the training camp or whatever. This little kid, they're so excited. He goes, oh, and oh.

• 24:26Speaker 00

  Love it. I love it.

• 24:28Speaker 01

  Also, I saw this on Twitter. I actually thought this would be helpful for the American folks. This is World Cup semis in NBA terms. And I was like, oh, okay. So England, loud fan base, might finally be their year. Those are the Knicks.

• 24:41Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 24:42Speaker 01

  Spain, elite defense led by a young superstar. That's the Spurs. Argentina, can the GOAT carry them one more time at the Golden State? And then France, dominant roster, top to bottom, probably the best team on paper, OKC.

• 24:56Speaker 00

  Very interesting.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:59Speaker 00

  Very interesting.

• 25:00Speaker 01

  Any, any counter examples here? Any counterpoints?

• 25:04Speaker 00

  No, I think that, I think the England Knicks thing.

• 25:07Mark Gagnon?

  I just hate this Spurs Spain thing and being a Spurs fan, but.

• 25:11Speaker 00

  But it's, it's low key accurate. The only thing I would say is that the Spanish game, like the Spurs are known for like boring fundamentals. And Spain is known for.

• 25:24Mark Gagnon?

  The tiki taki.

• 25:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, like to me, I think it's almost like a more progressive style of soccer, right? And like, I wouldn't say flash, but like, there's an exuberant.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  Which again, Spain.

• 25:36Speaker 00

  It's not like a boring, slow, plodding style, which is what.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  It's kind of boring in my opinion, watching Spain.

• 25:42Speaker 00

  Why is it just.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  Control possession. Because it's like so systematized. Like they play as such a unit that like, they're pretty patient. They build up. They score goals that are like pretty technical, but not like a wow factor, you know? So it's kind of just like, all right, and they scored. That's how it feels watching Spain from there. I mean, it's effective. They win, but it's just like. Whereas like the old Spain, I think was more exciting.

• 26:05Speaker 00

  That's the tiki taka.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. And they're still kind of doing that, but it's just a lot more like systematic and maybe less creative, but more effective.

• 26:13Speaker 00

  Argentina being the Warriors. Do you have any objections to that? I don't know enough about Argentina.

• 26:19Mark Gagnon?

  They're both have old teams.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, legacy with the GOAT kind of. And like they have won chips in the past and are they gonna be able to do it again? I think it's actually pretty solid. Also, I did hear another NBA comparison with soccer that was interesting. Someone compared Zlatan. And I don't know enough about basketball to know if this is accurate.

• 26:40Speaker 00

  He's LeBron.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  I heard.

• 26:42Speaker 00

  Oh, wait, wait, give me another guess.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  The LeBron story.

• 26:44Speaker 00

  Give me another guess, give me another guess.

• 26:46Speaker 01

  Okay, go ahead.

• 26:46Speaker 00

  Is he a current player?

• 26:47Speaker 01

  No.

• 26:49Speaker 00

  Ha, has, how long has he been out?

• 26:53Speaker 01

  Um, to be honest with you, I don't know.

• 26:56Speaker 00

  Did he play during your lifetime?

• 26:58Speaker 01

  No, I don't think so, no.

• 27:00Speaker 00

  Magic Johnson.

• 27:02Speaker 01

  People have compared to Magic, but that was not the highest voted one on Reddit. It was this guy. Dominique Wilkins.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  No, that's hate. They hate him, bro.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  That's what they said. I don't know enough about basketball, but the comments were like, oh, that's actually pretty solid.

• 27:16Speaker 00

  That's Europeans that don't know anything about basketball.

• 27:19Mark Gagnon?

  See, I don't know enough about Zlatan or whatever they.

• 27:22Speaker 00

  Oh, it's lots of. No, that's hate.

• 27:24Speaker 01

  He never won like the big trophies, had like crazy highlights, like highlights where you're like, oh, this is the most insane thing.

• 27:30Speaker 00

  He never won a championship? He never won like a.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  There's a lot of trophies in Europe, so like he won like some of the local trophies, but never like the big ones.

• 27:37Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  And so this is, this is what the, uh, this is what.

• 27:41Speaker 00

  So that's the knock on him. He never won the big one.

• 27:43Mark Gagnon?

  But is he a flashy player?

• 27:45Speaker 01

  Who, Zlatan? Yeah, like the most flashy. Like has some of the craziest goals you've ever seen in your life. Like if you look at his highlight reel, you're like, this must be the greatest player of all time.

• 27:52Speaker 00

  Different types of flash. It's not like, um.

• 27:55Speaker 01

  This is how the comment characterized it and what people liked. Amazing highlight reel, came close to the MVP a few times, but never won it. Won national titles, but never got close to the two big ones, which is World Cup and Champions League. Career numbers are very good, but maybe not an all-timer.

• 28:09Speaker 00

  Ooh, they're saying he's not an all-timer.

• 28:11Speaker 01

  But like for me, Zlatan, like his, his aura, his, his mystique is greater. Because he played for Sweden and like Sweden was never really like a big.

• 28:21Speaker 00

  So he didn't have a chance to actually.

• 28:22Speaker 01

  Right.

• 28:23Speaker 00

  Compete at the World Cup.

• 28:24Speaker 01

  But if you look at his highlights, you're like, oh, this is the greatest guy ever.

• 28:27Mark Gagnon?

  Does Kyrie, does Kyrie have a chip?

• 28:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, with LeBron.

• 28:29Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay.

• 28:30Speaker 00

  Outside of that, no.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  There's another little fun little NBA crossover.

• 28:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  You know, kind of, kind of interesting.

• 28:36Speaker 00

  So, so what about his time in Barcelona? I saw somewhere where he was like, yeah, I was miserable there.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  Oh, maybe.

• 28:43Speaker 00

  I don't know, but like, do you know anything about his time in Barcelona?

• 28:46Speaker 01

  No, I can't speak.

• 28:46Speaker 00

  Cause somebody was saying, talking to him about happiness or something like that. He was being interviewed and he was like, are you happy? He goes, happiness is moments. It's like, sometimes you're happy, sometimes you're not. Happiness is moments. My dream my whole life was to play for Barcelona. I went there and it was my nightmare. So happiness is moments. He's a sophisticated fucking thinker.

• 29:05Speaker 01

  He's like a monk.

• 29:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, like, yeah, like, I would really love to talk to him.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  Right?

• 29:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a lot of time. You gotta come on the pod, man. Like, I would, I'm very interested in his like competitive mindset, but also just like life mindset.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:17Speaker 00

  It seems like he's really grinded his gears on everything that he's done. You know, it doesn't seem like his decisions are frivolous.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:28Speaker 00

  And I'm curious about that.

• 29:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. No, he seems like, uh, he seems like a fucking, like a karate master.

• 29:35Speaker 00

  Yes. Yeah.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. Or he just like knows the right things to say. He kind of speaks in like riddles sometimes.

• 29:40Speaker 00

  I think he treats it like martial arts.

• 29:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:42Speaker 00

  Right? And he, yeah, his approach to it seems more martial arts based.

• 29:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:46Speaker 00

  Also happiness is moments. Like what athlete you know would have a bar like that? You know what I mean? Yeah.

• 29:53Speaker 01

  All right. So who do you have in the, in the final tomorrow? Argentina versus England. Falkland's revisited.

• 30:00Speaker 00

  I think it's coming home, man. I think it's coming home. I hate to say it, my Scottish family's gonna be furious with me.

• 30:06Speaker 01

  Now I'm with you. I'm fully with you.

• 30:07Speaker 00

  I think it's coming home, man.

• 30:09Speaker 01

  I want England.

• 30:10Speaker 00

  You want England?

• 30:11Speaker 01

  I want England badly.

• 30:12Mark Gagnon?

  I want England.

• 30:13Speaker 01

  I want England to beat Argentina. I want England to beat Spain.

• 30:15Speaker 00

  I think it's coming home, man.

• 30:17Speaker 01

  And that's the true Knicks fan comparison right here, right? It might finally be their year.

• 30:20Speaker 00

  Hey, I think it's coming home, man.

• 30:23Speaker 01

  So according to Kalshi for the game tomorrow, AKA today, England advances 53% over Argentina. England's actually the favorite on Kalshi. Very kind of crazy.

• 30:32Mark Gagnon?

  Why is that?

• 30:33Speaker 01

  I don't know. I mean, England's been playing well. They got like maybe more star power. I don't know.

• 30:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but Argentina got BB.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, but. Argentina's squeaking by all their games. They beat like a one man down Switzerland, squeaked by Cape Verde, squeaked by Egypt. So it's like they haven't been playing like out of their minds. They've just been like barely getting by all these games.

• 30:53Mark Gagnon?

  Interesting. Okay.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  Whereas England's been looking pretty good. And then going into the final, they put Spain at a favorite at 58%.

• 31:00Speaker 00

  Well, I think England's gonna do it, man. I think it's gonna be a historic year for underdogs. I think next win, I think England wins.

• 31:08Speaker 01

  And I think the English fans would appreciate it more. There'll be no fucking rowing in New York. There'll be no fucking rowing in New York. There'll be no fucking rowing. There'll be no fucking rowing. There'll be no fucking rowing in New York. Oh, that's awesome.

• 31:25Speaker 00

  So we might have to go to the final if they're in it, but we gotta get that little cheat sheet with the chants before. Is there like a WhatsApp we can get on?

• 31:33Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. I've always wondered that. Like, how do they know where to sit?

• 31:37Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  How do they know like, hey, guys, we're all gonna be on this goal?

• 31:40Mark Gagnon?

  No, when you're buying tickets.

• 31:41Speaker 00

  Then don't they do like-

• 31:42Speaker 01

  It says it?

• 31:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 31:43Speaker 01

  Damn, I'm a dumbass.

• 31:45Speaker 00

  You're going to the game tomorrow. You already went to the France Morocco joint.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  I was wondering. I was like, why are they all over there?

• 31:51Speaker 00

  How was that? Before we get into Team Uwaska, can you tell me about how-

• 31:55Speaker 01

  Going to the games is just the coolest thing ever. Like you just walk-

• 31:57Speaker 00

  Alfield's no different, by the way.

• 31:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, right?

• 32:00Mark Gagnon?

  I actually do.

• 32:00Speaker 01

  That's $200 worth of difference.

• 32:02Speaker 00

  You do, go.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  But just walking to the stadium and seeing the field is just like, holy, you feel like you're in Harry Potter. It feels like Quidditch. You're like, oh, damn.

• 32:10Speaker 00

  Different than watching a NFL football game?

• 32:12Speaker 01

  I've never been to an NFL game.

• 32:13Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 32:14Speaker 01

  So I can't say. But I imagine similar. It's just like this massive, perfect, green, lush field. All the fans are just like awesome. And there was actually a ton of Morocco fans. Didn't expect how many there would be in Boston. They all came down from Montreal.

• 32:25Speaker 00

  That makes sense. Yeah. And do they, is, is it charged up? Outside, coming in, like, when do you start feeling the energy?

• 32:33Speaker 01

  I mean, getting in was an insane fiasco.

• 32:35Speaker 00

  Why?

• 32:35Speaker 01

  I mean, just like the traffic, the stadium, the way it was coming, like, I don't think they use the normal protocols that they use for past games because it was just crazy. Like, trying to get in, there was a nightmare.

• 32:44Mark Gagnon?

  Can't be worse than day three of the Jay-Z concert, but uh-

• 32:47Speaker 00

  Oh, did you also go to that?

• 32:48Speaker 01

  Maybe.

• 32:49Speaker 00

  So Team Uwaska, right to Jay- Day three, so it really tested your patience. So we're gonna talk about that.

• 32:55Speaker 01

  But then we got the greatest hookup ever. Dove got on the line with Lieutenant Mock. And Lieutenant Mock was like just a legendary dude from Boston, born and raised. And he's just a police captain that helped us park illegally on the median. And then every word that he used was just a different Bostonism. So he's like, yeah, it's Lieutenant Mock. Am I talking to Mock? And I was like, yes, Mock. And he's like, all right, Mock, you gonna park your car? You gotta, it seemed like he was doing it on purpose. He was like, you gotta go park your car up on the median, right in front of the Chick-fil-A, park your car. And I was like, and on the, we're all laughing in traffic, trying to hold it in while he's on speakerphone. Being like, are you alone? And I was like, no, I'm with everyone. He's like, okay, all right. And you could like, I'm sure he could hear us laughing. And then we like pulled up and dapped us up and got something again.

• 33:40Speaker 00

  Dove goes, he goes, how far are you? How far are you away? And Mark goes, I don't know, 100 meters? And he goes, meters? What the fuck?

• 33:49Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  Literally, he goes, what, are you European? Am I talking to a European guy? So funny. But yeah, it was amazing. Going to the game, it was nice going with Dove. You know, it was nice going with Dove. It is sad because it wasn't like the greatest showing. So it was kind of like a one-sided game, but, uh, but we had a wonderful time. Yeah, it was truly amazing. All the games have been awesome. Tomorrow, I'm a little worried about because it's gonna be tense.

• 34:11Speaker 00

  Because of the historical implications?

• 34:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:14Speaker 00

  More tense than the French Morocco game?

• 34:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know if there's animosity like that. Like, I don't know if it's the same way because France and Morocco, like, I think also any type of like colonized country. And I'm gonna speak out of turn here a little bit, but like, I think there's a little bit of symbiosis. Cause there's like a lot of cultural trade over. So it's like.

• 34:31Speaker 00

  You're upset about the treatment, you love the coffee.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  But yeah, exactly. And so like the French get some coffee. There's a Moroccan guy that lives down the street from you. Morocco, they speak a lot of French. There's like, uh, there's something that's connected. Whereas Argentina, England, there was just a bloody war where a thousand people died and they hate each other.

• 34:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, over some islands that neither of them really give a fuck about.

• 34:49Speaker 01

  Exactly. And so it's like, that's just a blood feud. There's a quote that I heard from.

• 34:54Speaker 00

  How did England lose that one?

• 34:56Speaker 01

  Well, I think they got it back, right? I don't even know really who controls the Falklands right now.

• 35:00Speaker 00

  Oh, I thought they got, I thought they lost that.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  Um, Miles, do you know who controls the Falklands? It's, uh, the Falklands are self-governed British overseas territory. So yeah, I think under a 2009 constitution, the islands have full internal self-government. The UK is responsible for foreign affairs. So yeah, the UK won, got it back, and the Argentines are not happy about it.

• 35:20Speaker 00

  And what's on these islands? Is it just having access in the region?

• 35:24Speaker 01

  I'm assuming.

• 35:25Speaker 00

  So they just put a base over there or some shit?

• 35:26Speaker 01

  Something like that. But like Margaret Thatcher was like, yo, we need that. That was recent, too. That shit was in the 80s.

• 35:32Speaker 00

  Margaret Thatcher, man, she, she did not give a fuck.

• 35:36Speaker 01

  She was like, so what, there's an interview with her, been like, these islands are ours. And it's like, you, they're 10,000 miles away, you're not even close. She was like, it's obviously English. But why? And she's like, look at it.

• 35:51Speaker 00

  I mean, didn't, didn't, didn't she like create apartheid in South Africa?

• 35:56Speaker 01

  Probably.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Look, I support Liverpool, so I hate Margaret Thatcher, and I'm, whatever they want to say against.

• 36:03Speaker 00

  What is their chant?

• 36:04Speaker 01

  Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, die, die, die.

• 36:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude. She's in a box. There's something about that, right?

• 36:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they hate Margaret Thatcher, so I'm like, alright. They're up to something. I think they're on, I think they're on.

• 36:16Speaker 00

  And also, they hate one of the newspapers, is it The Sun?

• 36:21Speaker 00

  Right?

• 36:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, I remember this. I don't remember which one, but I think it was because they reported on the Hillsborough massacre or something like that.

• 36:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, there was like a death at the stadium, so people got trampled or something like that, right? Yeah, yeah.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  But yeah, Maradona had a quote back in the day.

• 36:34Speaker 00

  Which was?

• 36:35Speaker 01

  Playing against England. And the quote is like, basically saying like, we have to kill these people. I'm assuming it's, it's real, it's possible that it might not be, but I saw it on, on Twitter, and it was like, these people killed our brothers, they killed our cousins, and we're gonna kill them. I was like, bam, alright. So, we're gonna see. Tomorrow is gonna be, uh, it's gonna be a lot.

• 36:58Speaker 00

  Do you, do you really think England gives a flying fuck about Argentina anymore?

• 37:02Speaker 01

  I mean, I don't think so.

• 37:04Speaker 00

  I don't even think they're thinking about it, bro. They don't got money in the ATM machines, so.

• 37:09Mark Gagnon?

  Maybe there was a point in time where there was some historical significance.

• 37:12Speaker 01

  But anytime there's a World Cup game and you got some hooligans, some proper geezers down there.

• 37:16Mark Gagnon?

  They gonna bring it up.

• 37:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, the veneers are gonna be in full display and they're gonna be going at it, dude. And once you got the veneers out.

• 37:22Mark Gagnon?

  Ibiza.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:24Mark Gagnon?

  Ibiza.

• 37:24Speaker 01

  They took a break from Ibiza this weekend to go down and fight some guys in Atlanta. It's gonna be awesome. But, you know, the World Cup's just the best.

• 37:31Mark Gagnon?

  Now, who are you going with?

• 37:33Speaker 01

  I'm going with my buddy Jaime and another one of our friends that lives down there.

• 37:37Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, man.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  So it's gonna be a nice little, it's gonna be a nice little vibe.

• 37:40Speaker 00

  All right, Alex, tell us about Team Iwaska. So just to put this in perspective for anybody who did not watch last week's episode, Alex planned on doing ayahuasca and he was paying $200 for the session. We immediately called Neil Brennan, who has done tens of sessions, and he was like, that seems eerily low, concerningly low. It should be five times the price of that. I would be very concerned. That's what he said to you going in on the, going into this, and you still decided to go.

• 38:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 38:10Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 38:11Mark Gagnon?

  Cause he, you know, he's just one of these gringos that gets tricked. What the fuck?

• 38:15Speaker 01

  Sorry, this is a different video I want to bring up later. It's a very funny video, but I'll bring it up later, sorry.

• 38:21Mark Gagnon?

  You know, but he's one of these, you know, Hollywood guys that just gets tricked into anything and overpriced. But you know what it felt like? Going to the authentic Mexican spot that Mexican people are eating there because 90% of the people there only spoke Spanish.

• 38:37Speaker 00

  And you say?

• 38:39Mark Gagnon?

  All from South America. Like, I used to have had a field day, put it like that.

• 38:43Speaker 00

  Really?

• 38:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I felt like, once I was there, I was like, oh, I'm doing the real shit. Yeah.

• 38:49Speaker 01

  So take us through the experience. What happened?

• 38:50Mark Gagnon?

  Okay. Oh my God, where do I start? So much. So I had the craziest.

• 38:55Speaker 01

  I took the line, I took the line, okay? I went to Hobo.

• 39:09Mark Gagnon?

  Well, I'm thinking about the whole weekend.

• 39:11Speaker 00

  Did you drive there or Airbnb?

• 39:12Mark Gagnon?

  I drove.

• 39:13Speaker 00

  What did you wear?

• 39:15Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, just some sweats and a tee.

• 39:16Speaker 00

  You didn't Alex media?

• 39:18Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I wanted to be comfortable.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  Full burlap suit.

• 39:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Actually, I did kind of because I did all black and then my next day outfit was all white. It's like, oh, I'm born again type of shit. So I did, there was some intention with the, with the fit.

• 39:31Speaker 01

  Before it even happened, you're like, I'm gonna be so born again.

• 39:34Speaker 00

  I'm not even gonna talk about the connotations Alex has with the colors, white and black. But like, you basically voiced it all to yourself.

• 39:44Mark Gagnon?

  So you're saying you did Iowa so you could get the black out of you, bro?

• 39:47Speaker 00

  That's what you're saying now?

• 39:47Speaker 01

  He didn't even support the black team, France. He supported, he supported the colonizers, the white Spanish.

• 39:52Mark Gagnon?

  You did. There was two black players on the Spanish team.

• 39:56Speaker 00

  All right, Nico.

• 39:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 39:57Speaker 00

  Nico! Okay, okay. So you go, you're in your black outfit. You go.

• 40:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 40:02Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 40:03Mark Gagnon?

  Let's, all right. So I go from Thursday filming, uh, Charlemagne academics. Then following day, Jay-Z, day one. And then straight from the concert, I go home, pick up my stuff, drive to Jersey. It was like at some mansion. It was one of the guys who was partaking. He's a doctor, so he like.

• 40:23Speaker 00

  He offered to.

• 40:24Mark Gagnon?

  Offers his place, yeah. So it was huge house.

• 40:26Speaker 00

  The fact that there's a doctor there is comforting?

• 40:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 40:28Speaker 00

  And what kind of doctor?

• 40:29Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, I did not.

• 40:30Speaker 00

  Chiropractor.

• 40:31Mark Gagnon?

  Did not. But I was, I was curious. I, I talked to him. I was like, yo, how do you do this? And like, I know you believe in Western medicine. He's like, nah, Western medicine, of course I believe in it, but it's just like, it's so small. Just scratch the surface like this is this. Like, and I was like, okay, I feel good about that. So yes, I have in my head the conversation that we had here and I'm like wondering, I'm like, fuck, I hope I didn't get got. I'm like.

• 40:58Mark Gagnon?

  So we start the whole situation.

• 41:02Mark Gagnon?

  I I'm starting to feel like.

• 41:05Speaker 00

  You drank the drink.

• 41:05Mark Gagnon?

  I drank the drink.

• 41:06Speaker 00

  You all sit around in a circle.

• 41:07Mark Gagnon?

  We're all sitting around, yes.

• 41:08Speaker 00

  Music playing?

• 41:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, they're like playing.

• 41:10Speaker 00

  Doing the drums and that kind of stuff. You're starting to feel some vibes. Is there any talking that's happening? And what language is it in?

• 41:17Mark Gagnon?

  While the first thing we're doing is like some powder. I don't know the names of all this stuff like rape and then some other stuff. So whatever, that's cool. But you do have to take something to get your.

• 41:29Speaker 00

  They gave you. I forget it.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  But you don't have another guess just for the joke. I mean, it's gotta be another another guess that's not wrapping.

• 41:39Mark Gagnon?

  It is cool. That's what it's called.

• 41:40Speaker 00

  Okay, so you take the.

• 41:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 41:44Mark Gagnon?

  You take the because it helps. Sorry, it helps the DMT not get broken down into your stomach after you take the ayahuasca. And so, but while that's happening, it takes a while for it to get in your system. So we're all just talking like, you know, intentions or why you're here or just any comments or whatever. And so like, everybody's going around and then the doctor is translating everything for me because everybody's speaking in Spanish. So.

• 42:07Speaker 00

  Is anybody sharing some wild ass shit that you're like, yo?

• 42:10Mark Gagnon?

  Um, I would say super wild. Like there was one girl who like recently got married and she was like conflicted with having to change her last name. Or her parents are like pressuring her that like, oh, you're giving up the family.

• 42:24Speaker 00

  She did ayahuasca to decide whether she should change her last.

• 42:27Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, no, that was just something that was on her mind.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  You don't want to be the person with the least problem.

• 42:32Speaker 00

  But she's right. Imagine being the next person who's like, yeah, I was brutally raped a lot. So I don't even know if I feel comfortable doing this powder.

• 42:41Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 42:42Mark Gagnon?

  So, yeah, we're all going around, we're doing that. And then we finally drink the ayahuasca.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  Is it hot? Is it cold?

• 42:49Mark Gagnon?

  No, it's cold and actually it's like a little sweet, but it's kind of bitter as at the same time. Like they probably put something to make it a little bit sweeter.

• 42:56Speaker 00

  What color is it?

• 42:57Mark Gagnon?

  It's like a dark, dark brown.

• 42:59Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 42:59Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Yes, take that and then they're playing music or everybody just starts to lay down because it usually takes anywhere from like 30 minutes or an hour for it to, you know, feel the effects. And so. At this point, like, time is starting to get a little blurry. I don't know exactly how, how much time passed by. So I'm laying down and then I start to feel like my body getting lighter. And it's like, it reminded me when I did the past life regression, when it felt like my spirit was kind of like lifting out of my body. And then it's, I'm feeling it elevate and then all of a sudden I'm hearing noises and then I lose concentration and it like dropped back down into me. And so then that happened like three or four times and I'm gonna tell you the noises I was hearing.

• 43:41Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't find that till after the fact what it was, but I'll keep going. So it happens and then I'm like, fuck, I need to concentrate harder, like I'm fucking it up. And then it stopped happening. And it stopped happening for like 10 minutes. And I'm like, these motherfuckers. God. So now it's like, mind you, they take everybody's phones, take your car keys, because they don't want anybody like bugging out and shit. And so now I'm like, holy shit, I'm surrounded by a bunch of people laying down. I don't want to interrupt this whole thing. I'm gonna have to lay here for five hours, wide awake, sober as fuck, with no phone. This is gonna be horrible.

• 44:20Mark Gagnon?

  Next thought I have, I'm being woken up and told I need to hurry up and run upstairs. So everybody's in this commotion, grabbing their stuff, running upstairs. Let me just get to that part because I find this out when I'm about to leave, why we all had to run upstairs. So basically, there was a kid there that was doing it, 17, and they actually give this to kids. I didn't realize this, but like in Central and South America, like, they give this to like babies. They'll put it on their pacifier and like get them used to ayahuasca even at a young age. This kid, 17, I think like, A maybe has like behavioral issues or whatever the case is.

• 45:02Mark Gagnon?

  So he's seeing one other lady like vomit and then it gets him sick and then he gets upset and he tries to leave. He's like, fuck this shit, I'm leaving. And so they're trying to like, you know, keep him here, calm him down, but he's just like, whatever. He gets access to his phone, calls 911.

• 45:24Speaker 00

  There's no way. There's no way.

• 45:27Mark Gagnon?

  So when they found out that he called 911, now you got a bunch of people slaying on the ground, high on ayahuasca, which is illegal. And there's illegals.

• 45:42Speaker 00

  Oh, no, no, no.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  Inside and outside illegal.

• 45:48Speaker 00

  Oh, no, no, no.

• 45:49Mark Gagnon?

  But mind you, I am so out of it. I have no idea what the fuck is going on. I'm just like.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  But you don't think you're out of it?

• 45:56Mark Gagnon?

  No, it's like.

• 45:57Speaker 01

  At this point, do you know like, oh.

• 45:58Speaker 00

  Are you used to hide?

• 45:59Mark Gagnon?

  When I, when I, when I woke up at that point, I was like, oh shit, this is the real shit. Like, it was a much stronger feeling than that initial situation. And I'm like, I'm in it.

• 46:10Speaker 01

  But visually, you can still see where you are.

• 46:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. So when you open your eyes, the world is regular. It's not like mushrooms where you're hallucinating or anything like that.

• 46:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:17Mark Gagnon?

  You close your eyes, a fucking movie is going on.

• 46:21Speaker 00

  Like what?

• 46:22Mark Gagnon?

  Like, I'm seeing geometric shapes. I'm seeing like, the best way I can describe it, I don't know, you probably didn't see this movie. Doctor Strange, Multiverse of Madness, where there's a scene where he's going through all these different like, different universes. And it's like, first it's water, first it's geometrical shapes, first it's glass shattering shit like that. I'm seeing that. And at the same time, I'm having memories from my life, just like replaying and stuff like that. And then surprisingly enough, it's like all stuff from like the past month. I'm thinking I was gonna just like, oh, go back and go into my childhood and it's like traumas and all that shit. It was just replaying this last month, which is really fun. Like, I see all you guys popped up.

• 47:08Mark Gagnon?

  Like, you know, my girl, family, all that type of stuff. But us at the game. It was just crazy. It was just all recent stuff. And. The craziest thing, or the biggest takeaway so far that I've processed was that I'm talking to my different consciousness at the same time. So I'm talking to my consciousness, my subconscious, and other things. It's happening simultaneously, and I'm aware of everything. It is so crazy. So imagine this memory is playing. I'm like the director, and I'm acting in it, and I'm the audience member, controlling the cameras. There's one time, I'm watching the memory,

• 47:51Mark Gagnon?

  and then it just zooms out, and then it's, I'm watching it in bird's eye view. And then there's still geometric shapes going on here while I'm thinking about this memory, and talking about it, and being in it at the same time. Like, it was nuts.

• 48:06Speaker 00

  Did you throw up at all?

• 48:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I threw up, like, in the beginning stage when you're given the first stuff, that's what makes you a little bit nauseous.

• 48:14Speaker 00

  The rape, you threw up, not the ayahuasca?

• 48:17Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 48:18Speaker 00

  So did the police come?

• 48:19Mark Gagnon?

  They did.

• 48:20Speaker 00

  And they went downstairs?

• 48:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, they went down, they, like, cleaned up everything. And so, they took the kid, took the mom, they went to the hospital. Mind you, the mom had two other kids there, eight and 10, so...

• 48:33Speaker 00

  Also doing it?

• 48:34Mark Gagnon?

  No, they weren't doing it. But later on that night, the Child Protective Services came and, like, interviewed the kid.

• 48:40Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 48:42Mark Gagnon?

  Luckily, everything's fine, the kid's fine, mom didn't get in trouble. But, yeah.

• 48:48Speaker 00

  This is $200 ayahuasca. You know that, right?

• 48:51Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, no, it's not. I find this out after when I'm leaving. And from the girl that invited me, she's like, "Oh my god, I'm so sorry." I'm like, "Why are you apologizing?" She's like, "No, from what happened." And it's like, "What happened?" Like, I'm, I had no idea. And she's like, "You know, all the commotion, and the police, and all that." It's like, "The police are here?" Like, now, okay, where it's like, "Did I almost get locked up? Like, what the fuck?" And then that's when I found out all that stuff happened. And she felt so bad. She's like, "I don't want this to be your first experience." And I was like, "Yo, I had the most amazing time."

• 49:25Speaker 00

  Did she offer you a free, uh...

• 49:27Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, no.

• 49:28Speaker 00

  That's fucked up. The cops come, they move you to a different room, you gotta offer a little rebate.

• 49:32Speaker 01

  If you're at a restaurant and the cops show up and they have to be like, hey, we're gonna move you to the dining room.

• 49:37Speaker 00

  They're gonna comp the meal.

• 49:38Speaker 01

  You gotta comp the meal.

• 49:38Speaker 00

  I don't know how much cheaper she can make it, but it's probably the issue.

• 49:43Mark Gagnon?

  Like, trust me, the lady that does this, she's been practicing medicine for like 35 years. Her parents and her grandparents all did this, like she's from a lineage of like medicine people.

• 49:54Speaker 00

  Hayawasqueros.

• 49:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, and so she has a license from the Colombian government that allows her to travel with, because I was wondering, I was like, how do you get it into the States? She's like, no, no, she legally can travel with all the stuff.

• 50:07Speaker 00

  Like, out of Colombia.

• 50:08Mark Gagnon?

  Out of Colombia.

• 50:09Speaker 00

  You can't, getting it into America is...

• 50:11Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, no, like, she can, she can travel with it, she just can't give it out.

• 50:16Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 50:18Mark Gagnon?

  But she can travel all around the world with it, but you're not supposed to like gift the people.

• 50:22Speaker 00

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• 52:51Speaker 01

  So what were your takeaways from these visions you were saying?

• 52:54Mark Gagnon?

  Like, I'm still processing a little bit of it, but yeah, it's I can just tell that this is scratching the surface. Like, I know now, and I was already know, like, of course, we're so small in this grand, but you get a better understanding of how small we really are.

• 53:11Speaker 00

  And what gave you the, what gave you that feeling? What are the visions?

• 53:15Mark Gagnon?

  It's not necessarily a vision. It's like a feeling. And it's like, oh, wow, I can feel how small I am in this grand scheme of things. And it's like some of, some of these shapes and things, like, I can't even imagine seeing the things that I saw. Like, I'm like seeing stuff for the first time. It's just really, it was such, it was enlightening. It was. Really fun, uh, cuz I was like scared. I was like, oh, fuck, what if I don't come back? What if it changes me forever? Like, I was scared going into it. I will absolutely do it again.

• 53:47Speaker 00

  Really?

• 53:48Mark Gagnon?

  Absolutely, without a question.

• 53:49Speaker 00

  How soon do you think?

• 53:50Mark Gagnon?

  I'm gonna wait sometime. I wanna like, think, journal a little bit, process, probably maybe like, a year.

• 53:56Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. Alright, alright. So you're not in any rush to have the experience again?

• 53:59Mark Gagnon?

  And so, uh, the doctor, he put it the best way. He's like, think of the medicine like your iPhone. You can pick up your phone, you have access to all the information in the world. But when you pick it up, you only get a little bit of information, what you're searching for that one time.

• 54:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:17Mark Gagnon?

  It's like, when you take the medicine, you have access to all the answers of the universe. But every single time when you sit with it, you're only gonna get a little bit.

• 54:25Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 54:26Mark Gagnon?

  And it's gonna be a different experience every single time. No two times are gonna be the same. And it's like, think of it like information. He's like, some people go into it looking for like, oh, I need to be healed or whatever. He's like, no. You're just getting information. Do with that information what you want, yeah. That's why I was like, I really think Mark especially because this Mr. Curious, he wants to know everything. And I'm like, you would absolutely love it. And it doesn't feel like you're on drugs.

• 54:50Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:51Mark Gagnon?

  I love the fact that I open my eyes and the world is regular.

• 54:54Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:55Mark Gagnon?

  That's, it was comforting. I'm like, oh, even though this shit lasts like eight hours.

• 55:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:00Mark Gagnon?

  There was a time I woke up and I thought it was done, cuz I was like, okay, cuz you feel it, it comes in waves. So like, when you close your eyes, when you're like at the top of the wave, the, everything going on is a lot more. And then when you're, when you're at the bottom of the wave, it's like, it's still happening, but it's like, less intense. So, when I was like, towards the end of a wave and then it wasn't coming back, I was like, okay, I guess this is towards the end. And then maybe like, probably like six hours passed by or whatever. I was like, okay, makes sense. So like, I start to get up, walk around, I have like a banana, I like, eat a little bit, drink or whatever. And then I was like, I'm kinda feeling tired. I sit down for a bit, close my eyes, boom, I'm back.

• 55:41Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 55:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it wasn't done.

• 55:43Speaker 00

  Feelings of interconnectedness?

• 55:46Mark Gagnon?

  Um.

• 55:48Mark Gagnon?

  Not so much. I was thinking, cause from all the research I've done and people that I've talked to who have done it, they're like, oh, they can feel or see the other people in the room. I had none of that. Like it felt like I was alone when I closed my eyes.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  Do they use tobacco at all?

• 56:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that's one of the things they give you. And that shit is weird. It's like, they like blow it up your nose. And it's like, it's intense as fuck. That shit like, I was like, whoa!

• 56:17Speaker 00

  And that gets you back?

• 56:19Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, that's in the beginning stage. It kinda like, they say it like cleanses you and helps your body be more like open to what's about to happen.

• 56:27Speaker 00

  Holy shit!

• 56:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I'm telling you, everyone should do it.

• 56:32Speaker 01

  Any experience that you had or anything that you thought about that you won't share?

• 56:39Mark Gagnon?

  Good things, but I thought about my girl a lot. And like, in a way where it's just like, oh, I need to be better. Cause she's like, amazing.

• 56:49Speaker 00

  Oh, so you had a lot of gratitude?

• 56:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 56:51Speaker 00

  Oh, that's good.

• 56:53Speaker 01

  It's Mother Gaia. See, that's what happens. That's what I'm saying. Ayahuasca is a, you see the female, the perfect female, the divine female. That's why women are cool, that's what I was taking it, you know what I mean? And then you take it and you come back out and you're like, dude, my girl's awesome. And they're like, yeah, take it again, who cares?

• 57:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I'm telling you, I know you're

• 57:12Speaker 00

  You're convincing me a little bit.

• 57:14Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but I like, it doesn't even feel like one of those things you can take and go crazy. Everybody there is like, alright, regular, normal, you feel normal. And then when it's over, everybody's back to being normal. It's like, there's no hangover feeling, like, I felt perfect.

• 57:31Speaker 01

  I'm always curious how they figured it out. That's something I can never, I can never get to the bottom of.

• 57:36Speaker 00

  Break it down.

• 57:36Speaker 01

  Like, cause I forget exactly where ayahuasca like originates. It was like, the jungles of like, I don't know, Brazil maybe?

• 57:42Speaker 00

  I don't think it originated in one place. Like, I think indigenous cultures all through like, central and south, were doing versions of it.

• 57:49Speaker 01

  But I'm like, you have to take two brews for it to work. And I'm like, how did they discover these two things when you mix them together and you drink them simultaneously or one after the other? That it creates this effect?

• 58:00Speaker 00

  It's like an Arnold Palmer.

• 58:01Speaker 01

  But who figured out the Arnold Palmer?

• 58:03Speaker 00

  Well, someone fucking love, well, Arnold Palmer.

• 58:07Mark Gagnon?

  I do think it was probably a mistake.

• 58:09Speaker 00

  Lemonade, you love iced tea and then. You go, that could be good together. Yeah, like you just mix and shit. Like, have you ever tried mole?

• 58:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, mole's fire.

• 58:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, back in the day, making food was just mix and shit, see what happens. So I don't think they intended it to like make you meet Mother Gaia, but they ran out of cilantro and they're like, all right, throw that in there and then they.

• 58:27Speaker 01

  That was an awesome dinner.

• 58:28Speaker 00

  Yo, this batch of fucking tacos is incredible. Like.

• 58:33Mark Gagnon?

  I guess. I do want to try smoking the DMT because it's like much shorter. Like this is like you have to fucking devote a weekend to it.

• 58:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's such an Americanized version of it.

• 58:43Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 58:44Speaker 00

  It's like, okay, well, what's the fun part? Oh, just the DMT? Okay, we'll find a synthesized version of that and then in and out and then done.

• 58:51Mark Gagnon?

  They used to, in Amazon, they would smoke it too.

• 58:54Speaker 00

  But they could isolate the DMT to smoke or you have to go through a process?

• 58:58Mark Gagnon?

  Really, it's really just like a root. You grind it up and yeah, smoke it. Boom, takes you there immediately.

• 59:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. I remember a girl at Burning Man offered me some. It was, this was like, this is years. I think it might have been my first burn. And I was just kind of like wandering, maybe my second, I forget. And then like I met this girl and it was just like instant vibes. And we were just kind of like talking and then she was like, here, do you want? I was like, what is it? Cause I didn't even smoke weed, I think at the time, whatever. She's like, it's DMT. And I was like, and I think it was a pen. Does it come in pens? Okay, yeah. And I was like, ah, I'm good. And the second I said, I'm good, it was like some sort of cosmic separation between the two of us. I don't know what that was about. And it didn't feel like, I wonder if she was already high?

• 59:45Speaker 01

  Probably.

• 59:46Speaker 00

  With like, you know what I mean?

• 59:48Speaker 01

  With all due respect, I mean, you're a catch, don't get me wrong.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  I don't want you to get the wrong president. But she was definitely tripping balls.

• 59:57Speaker 00

  No, she was tripping balls. It felt like me saying no, like, not want to say scared her, but like.

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  It was like, oh, we're not in the same vibe. Yeah. I'm on a wave right now, and I think you're on the same wave. And then you're like, nah, I'm not on the wave. And she's like, oh, we're not, we're not.

• 1:00:11Speaker 00

  Like, the initial moment felt like it was like the world presented us to each other or something like that. And then I was like, I think I'm good on DMT. And then it was like, the world has not presented us. It was that stark a separation.

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  My buddy has such a funny story of doing DMT. Maybe I've told you before, but in brief, he had like written out this whole journal. And he was like, okay, I want to work on this. And I need to think about this thing, my relationship with this person. Had this whole thing, lays in his bed, rips the pen, falls back, and then goes and sees a bunch of like elves. And the elves are like.

• 1:00:44Speaker 00

  Isn't that part of it? You see like the gnome or something?

• 1:00:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, which I think happens more with DMT than ayahuasca. But it's like, results may vary. And he like, he's in a waiting room and they're like showing him pictures and stuff. And they're like, yeah, you can't go in yet, you're not ready. And he's like, come on, guys, let me in. And then they're like, all right, fine. And so then they open up and it go, he goes in like a club. And there's like an elf DJ. And like all the elves are partying and they're like, yo, he's here. And they're all excited, like, yo, the dude's here. And they're like showing him around and they're showing him all the shit. And it's legit, it feels like five minutes. And then he walks out back through the same waiting room. They show him some more pictures, they're like, look at our furniture. And it's all like weird fucking like Dolly-esque furniture. And then he like zaps back out, just laying in his bed. And then looks at his notes that have like, think about your mother. And he's like, the fuck?

• 1:01:29Speaker 01

  We just went to a party with elves and they're like, yo, DJ. And that was the whole experience. So he was like, I didn't really get much out of it. But he said, like, his takeaway was like, that's kind of the point. Is that I went in trying to fix my whole life, when really I just need to be kind of having fun and let go. And I was like, oh, that's a good way to let go.

• 1:01:44Mark Gagnon?

  I'm glad that I did this, because I've been thinking about doing ayahuasca for years now. But it was like, nah, I want to be in a place where I'm like, I feel good.

• 1:01:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:54Mark Gagnon?

  You know, like, not like, oh, I'm working through something.

• 1:01:56Speaker 00

  Yes, you don't want to, I love the fact that the ayahuascaero said that it's not a place to go for a quick fix.

• 1:02:04Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:04Speaker 00

  I think a lot of times people are like either really suffering or dealing with something, and then they go there for this quick fix. But going there for exploration and like being open to whatever interpretation of these events you have, yeah, I think that's a good reminder, even for life, you know, like I think so often we're trying to like control life and allowing, was it allowing yourself to interpret life in either the best or worst possible, you know, way for whatever you're going through is a choice. And sometimes I guess we need to induce it with drugs.

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then maybe you being all the, all the people in the play is kind of a part of it, you know? It's like you are the person watching this right now. You're me, I'm you, you're Miles. And maybe we're all the same thing. Fucking homo. And then you left that and you went straight to this.

• 1:02:55Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yes.

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  Did you literally go straight from there directly to this concert?

• 1:03:00Mark Gagnon?

  No, I first did an episode of AM mornings. So I slept, I actually drove home Saturday night. So I got there Saturday early, like 8 a.m. We drank around 10:00 and then I think I left around midnight.

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:03:17Mark Gagnon?

  So I left, slept in my own bed, woke up.

• 1:03:20Speaker 00

  Are you eating anything while you're there?

• 1:03:22Mark Gagnon?

  No, not really. Cause uh.

• 1:03:23Speaker 00

  Were you starving at the end of it?

• 1:03:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, like when I got home, I like found pizza and I went, yeah, yeah. Cause you have to fast like the day before. So day one, I'm at the Jay-Z concert and I was in the suite with Charlamagne and you know, suite, they have all this food, drinks.

• 1:03:40Speaker 00

  Couldn't touch any of it.

• 1:03:41Speaker 01

  What about water?

• 1:03:42Mark Gagnon?

  Water, yeah. That's only like, but imagine just like, oh, all this food.

• 1:03:46Speaker 00

  I wouldn't be able to do it. Also vibes probably immaculate.

• 1:03:49Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but the concert, it was fun. I was still amped up, still had all the energy in the room.

• 1:03:54Speaker 00

  Okay, tell us about the Sunday Jay-Z concert.

• 1:03:56Mark Gagnon?

  So the Sunday Jay-Z concert. So I get there and I was worried, I was.

• 1:04:00Speaker 00

  For anybody unaware, Sunday, something happens and they delayed the concert start for like four hours. So that's why Sunday was like different than the other days.

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  But this is at Yankee Stadium, it's like massive.

• 1:04:13Speaker 00

  Yep. So break it down, what's happening?

• 1:04:14Mark Gagnon?

  So I get there around eight fifteen, show's supposed to start at eight, but I remember Friday, the show didn't start until like almost nine, so I'm like, eh, whatever, I was taking my time. Um, so I get there and when I got there, they already said, oh, gates are closed. I'm like, what do you mean gates are closed? And so they're like, uh, we don't know, security issue. So I'm texting everybody, I'm like hitting Charlemagne, I'm hitting like the security guy inside. It was like, alright, so what I'm hearing is that people showed up early, they bum rushed to get inside because they didn't have tickets and it's too big of a security risk for Yankee Stadium because if they got in with a weapon, now Yankee Stadium's liable if anything happens. And it's, it's just gonna cost them way too much money if some shit happens.

• 1:04:59Mark Gagnon?

  So it seems as though they locked down the doors and tried to track all those people that came inside via cameras.

• 1:05:07Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:05:08Speaker 00

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

• 1:05:09Mark Gagnon?

  That's, that's what I'm hearing from the security people.

• 1:05:11Speaker 01

  And this is a video of people getting in.

• 1:05:15Speaker 00

  So, so there were people who bum rushed and got in?

• 1:05:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah. So imagine if any one of those people got in with a gun.

• 1:05:21Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 1:05:21Mark Gagnon?

  And then goes on like a mass shooting or whatever, that Yankee Stadium's closed for her. Or a new owner, so they're gonna have to take over.

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  And if you're someone that snuck in, you're like, yo, I'm just gonna hide out in the bathroom for an hour.

• 1:05:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:31Speaker 01

  Wait for the concert to start, they're gonna start eventually and then I'll just walk in.

• 1:05:33Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. So now they have to go through all the fucking cameras, try to track every single person in this giant stadium and it took them about three and a half hours.

• 1:05:43Speaker 00

  And they found all the people?

• 1:05:44Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, I'm not sure, but I would think so if they went through with the show, I think so. But Jay-Z didn't start, like people out inside were upset, people outside were fucking pissed off, like it was.

• 1:05:56Speaker 00

  I knew somebody who left, he was there with his kid.

• 1:05:59Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:59Speaker 00

  And he left.

• 1:06:00Mark Gagnon?

  A friend of mine, a friend of mine left too.

• 1:06:01Speaker 00

  Ten minutes before he started.

• 1:06:03Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck.

• 1:06:03Speaker 00

  I know, waited four hours and then he heard rumors that they weren't gonna start. So he got his kid, he got school in the morning, it's like, oh.

• 1:06:10Mark Gagnon?

  Oh no, I, I, I kept checking with Charlemagne, I'm like, Charlemagne, you're a Roc Nation employee, right? Is this show happening?

• 1:06:17Speaker 00

  Doug was there and he was texting me and he was like, yeah, I'm talking, I'm with the Live Nation guys right now. They said they're gonna do it.

• 1:06:23Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:06:23Speaker 00

  It's gonna happen. So I was like, okay, it's gonna happen. How long are they gonna push it? And then are they gonna do anything in the interim? Like, what is the?

• 1:06:31Mark Gagnon?

  I think they just had a DJ on.

• 1:06:33Speaker 00

  Barely, almost.

• 1:06:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:35Speaker 00

  And then, okay, so once it goes, the concert's gonna start. What is the reaction?

• 1:06:39Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, everybody, like, instantly forget that they were just upset and it's immediate hype.

• 1:06:46Speaker 00

  So, and what is the first sound that they hear?

• 1:06:50Mark Gagnon?

  What was, um, I think he started it with the intro to, um, Reasonable Doubt, which is just like a heartbeat.

• 1:06:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:57Mark Gagnon?

  And so like, once people heard that, it's like, ah, yeah.

• 1:07:01Speaker 00

  Cause I imagine a lot of people that night were like, yo, it might not happen.

• 1:07:04Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:04Speaker 00

  So they went from it might not happen to it's going down.

• 1:07:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:08Speaker 00

  So immediate.

• 1:07:09Mark Gagnon?

  Once they opened the gates and started letting people in, we figured, okay, the show is going to go on. Cause like, why would you let everybody inside if you planned?

• 1:07:18Speaker 01

  And first night was Eminem as a guest?

• 1:07:20Mark Gagnon?

  No, uh, Beyonce, fuck, Dream, Memphis Bleek.

• 1:07:26Speaker 01

  Oh, that was first night?

• 1:07:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Beyonce came out first night and third night.

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  And the last night. Wow. And then also Rihanna?

• 1:07:33Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but fucking Rihanna, Young Jeezy, fucking, uh, Jada, Fat Joe, Pharrell. But it was crazy. Honestly, probably the best concert I've been to.

• 1:07:48Speaker 00

  Really?

• 1:07:49Mark Gagnon?

  But of course I'm biased. This is my favorite artist, but the fact that you just have all these heavy hitters that they're one waiting four hours for the show to start.

• 1:07:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:58Mark Gagnon?

  As Beyonce, you may wait four hours. And Rihanna and all these people. Fucking Young Jeezy, I heard canceled his own show to be there.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  No way.

• 1:08:06Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, he had a shoulder, yeah.

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  Wow. Was it cool being in Yankee Stadium?

• 1:08:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:11Speaker 01

  Like a concert there, like it works?

• 1:08:13Mark Gagnon?

  It felt so New York. Like the opposite of the next game.

• 1:08:20Speaker 00

  In San Antonio.

• 1:08:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:22Speaker 00

  That's a pretty New York too.

• 1:08:23Mark Gagnon?

  No, but I know how you were saying like MSG didn't feel like.

• 1:08:27Speaker 00

  Game three.

• 1:08:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:28Speaker 00

  Game four, it felt like it.

• 1:08:30Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:08:30Speaker 00

  But game three, but again, I was in a box game three, game four, I was, I was in the.

• 1:08:35Mark Gagnon?

  But this felt like New York, like this was.

• 1:08:39Speaker 00

  Also, even if you're not from New York, you, you dress in a park because you know as a New York.

• 1:08:44Speaker 01

  A lot of times.

• 1:08:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, a lot of times.

• 1:08:45Mark Gagnon?

  But I'm telling you, it was like, I would say average age is like mid thirties, like.

• 1:08:49Speaker 00

  At least.

• 1:08:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:51Mark Gagnon?

  But this shit was fire. I was so hyped and it was probably the best week of my life.

• 1:08:56Speaker 00

  Really?

• 1:08:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Like, I don't know how to top this.

• 1:08:59Speaker 00

  So nobody, once it started, nobody cared.

• 1:09:01Mark Gagnon?

  Nobody.

• 1:09:01Speaker 00

  And then it went on for how long, the concert? Two and a half hours, something like that?

• 1:09:05Mark Gagnon?

  Three hours.

• 1:09:05Speaker 00

  Oh, my God. So people didn't get out there until three in the morning?

• 1:09:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. I didn't get home until like four forty-five.

• 1:09:10Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:09:11Speaker 01

  Wow. DMT is still ripping through your hair.

• 1:09:14Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, it's completely done.

• 1:09:16Speaker 00

  And everybody just hyped, even in the box, everybody was just.

• 1:09:20Mark Gagnon?

  Because it was such a good show. It's like, how could you be mad?

• 1:09:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:22Mark Gagnon?

  Like, everybody's like.

• 1:09:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:23Mark Gagnon?

  I'm fucking like, I'm in like the little one hundred section. I should have been on the floor, but whatever. I'm in the one hundred section and it's like, I'm around some heavy fans, like I'm just vibing with the fans that are like super hardcore. We're just rapping every single lyric.

• 1:09:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:38Mark Gagnon?

  And then the girls around are just like making hype when Beyonce goes on and shit like that. But I'm just up. I know whoever was behind me was pissed off.

• 1:09:46Speaker 00

  Pissed off.

• 1:09:46Mark Gagnon?

  Because I didn't see that at all. Oh, it was so fun.

• 1:09:50Speaker 00

  There was, I wanted to go, man.

• 1:09:51Mark Gagnon?

  Why did you? Why'd you go? You're a Jay fit.

• 1:09:55Speaker 00

  Um, genuinely, I, uh, I, I don't know. I'm like, I just want to be with the family. I don't know. It's a, I know it sounds like a.

• 1:10:06Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I respect it, but this is like, this was a moment.

• 1:10:09Speaker 00

  I know, I know. I thought about it, but it was like, same reason I didn't go to the, the, what's it called?

• 1:10:14Speaker 01

  World Cup, yeah.

• 1:10:14Speaker 00

  The World Cup, you know, it was just like, the same reason I didn't go to the Connor fight, like my buddies are all going to Connor fight. You know, he's fighting Max and like, you know, I got some friends from Y and who, and, um, but I, yeah, it's like, I'm doing this movie out in LA and like, I don't know, I don't, my family's not going to come the next two stints I go out there and like. I don't know, the kids are like this awesome age. And I've had kids late, so all my friends with kids are telling me like, man, it goes fast.

• 1:10:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:41Speaker 00

  And I keep thinking about that every single time. My daughter's like, Dad, can you give me a bath? Or Dad, like, or she wakes up at night and she's asking me to like lay down with her and I think about that. Like literally every single moment, I'm just like, all right, how many times am I going to be able to do this?

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:57Speaker 00

  How many times am I going to be able to pick her up and throw her in the pool? Like eventually she'll get to an age where either she's too heavy or she's like, Dad, stop throwing me up in the air and catch me in the pool.

• 1:11:05Speaker 01

  Pretty soon. Which is like, seven years, eight years?

• 1:11:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. So like, I don't know, I just frame things in that way. And um.

• 1:11:13Mark Gagnon?

  That's awesome. I respect.

• 1:11:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, I want to just spend as much time with them as I can. And I don't.

• 1:11:18Mark Gagnon?

  She should be, she would have been high.

• 1:11:20Speaker 00

  No, she would have. And again, like, I think if it's like, I knew I wasn't going to be away for 10 days in LA and then come back for four and then away again for 10 days. Like, I think I would have been, no question, let's do it. If I was just hanging in the city and then there's no question, I'm going out and going to it.

• 1:11:33Speaker 01

  That's why I'm excited for my kid to get old enough where I can start taking them to stuff.

• 1:11:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:36Speaker 01

  And have them appreciate it. Cause then you don't have to choose.

• 1:11:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:38Speaker 01

  Then you just get all the love. It's like, hey, someone has an opportunity to go to a thing, buy a ticket, bring your kid.

• 1:11:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:44Speaker 01

  He has an amazing experience. And then you're like, oh, great. I just did all of them.

• 1:11:46Mark Gagnon?

  My daughter comes with me everywhere, bro.

• 1:11:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:50Mark Gagnon?

  I brought Jeezy to the Knicks game.

• 1:11:52Speaker 01

  That was crazy.

• 1:11:53Speaker 00

  But it is a weird feeling. It is a weird feeling because like I don't feel the FOMO.

• 1:11:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:59Speaker 00

  But if you're asking me for kids, I would feel it.

• 1:12:01Speaker 01

  Isn't that so funny? The people ask me, it's like, man, you probably gotta like give up a lot of stuff. It's, you don't give up.

• 1:12:05Speaker 00

  You don't feel like it.

• 1:12:06Speaker 01

  You do way less stuff.

• 1:12:07Speaker 00

  Way less.

• 1:12:08Speaker 01

  And you don't go to things.

• 1:12:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:10Speaker 01

  But it's not FOMO.

• 1:12:11Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:12:12Speaker 01

  It's like, sometimes I'll have the opposite FOMO. Cause I've gone to stuff and been like, I would have much rather just done bedtime. Or like, my wife will send me a picture of like them reading. And I'm like, that seems way better.

• 1:12:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:22Speaker 01

  Like it's standing in the heat right now. Like I'm, this sucks.

• 1:12:25Speaker 00

  Yeah. And especially given the nature of what we do, we already are going to be spending less time with them. Because we'll be on the road. We'll be doing a project or something. So it's if we're just doing, working every single day during the week, and then you get to see him for dinner, and you get to see him on the weekends, like my folks did for me. It's like, okay, well, yeah, go rip a concert, go do whatever. But it feels, I think it feels a little indulgent when I'm already taking the time. Time away. But yeah, I was surprised to not feel like the, it looks so cool, and it looks so awesome. There's a part that wants to go. And that's where you wish you could teleport.

• 1:12:59Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:59Speaker 00

  That's where you're like, oh, can I take a helicopter and then drop right there? You know, like you start doing the logistics of it.

• 1:13:04Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:05Speaker 00

  But, but yeah, I don't know, for whatever reason, I did. I was like stoked that like Doug was texting me what was happening. I'm in bed, like texting, I'm like, really like interested, like excited by it. And I'm texting Charlamagne, like, wha- wha- wha- what do you think is actually happening? Like, and he's texting jokes back that I'm taking serious. And I'm like, do I share this with other people who are asking me what's happening? Like, like Charlamagne told me something that it was the reason for why it was delayed. They're like, I didn't think it was a joke at first. And then Eagle Wit, you know, comedian Eagle is texting me like, yo, do you know what's happening? And I almost texted it to Eagle. Once it goes to Eagle, it's everywhere. And I had to hit Charlamagne back like, yo, is this a joke or not? And then he just ha-ha's it. I'm like, ooh, thank God I didn't start that rumor. I was very close.

• 1:13:47Speaker 01

  You probably made the right decision not going to the McGregor fight.

• 1:13:50Speaker 00

  Bro.

• 1:13:51Speaker 01

  With, with or without kids in the equation, because that was sad.

• 1:13:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  It was just tough to watch.

• 1:13:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:58Mark Gagnon?

  Ayahuasca, one day, it felt like I missed so much.

• 1:14:03Speaker 00

  The next day, people telling me that fucking, what's Mitch McConnell died, or the other one died.

• 1:14:10Speaker 00

  Fucking they're like, yo, did you see this Connor fight? I'm like, yeah. How'd I miss so much?

• 1:14:15Mark Gagnon?

  Ayahuasca will change the world.

• 1:14:17Speaker 00

  Nah, the Connor fight, man, that was a...

• 1:14:20Speaker 01

  It's just kind of a bummer, you know?

• 1:14:23Speaker 00

  It was, it was a bummer.

• 1:14:24Speaker 01

  Because like, regardless, I'm happy that Max won, but it's like, I think even Max is like...

• 1:14:28Speaker 00

  I feel bad for Max a little bit.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  I want to fight. Like, I trained a lot for this. I did a whole camp.

• 1:14:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it's like, yeah, there's multiple ways of looking at it. Right? Because you're like... I feel bad, I, I, there's a part of me that like, never wants Max to get punched again. Cause I just think he's just the best guy.

• 1:14:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:48Speaker 00

  And I'm like, wait, you can make tons of money and not get punched? That's awesome.

• 1:14:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:51Speaker 00

  But there's also a part of me that looks at like, this man has dedicated his life to this thing, and he only gets to do it thirty-five times in his life, maybe, total.

• 1:15:00Mark Gagnon?

  Is that the guy almost fucked up Mark?

• 1:15:04Speaker 01

  No, Max would never, Max would never.

• 1:15:06Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, that was one UFC motherfucker.

• 1:15:09Speaker 00

  Oh, no, no.

• 1:15:13Speaker 00

  And that guy would. He absolutely would. But, um, but no, Max is the boy, bro. And you, you, uh, you hung out with Max?

• 1:15:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's just a true Hawaiian.

• 1:15:23Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:15:23Speaker 01

  Like, that's the only way to really describe.

• 1:15:25Speaker 00

  Shout out Wine Eye, bro. Shout out Wine Eye, man.

• 1:15:27Speaker 01

  Like, he's a fighter, but that is kind of the Hawaiian spirit a little bit.

• 1:15:30Speaker 00

  That's it.

• 1:15:31Speaker 01

  Like, they will scrap and throw down, but also it's like, shoot, spread out. It's both.

• 1:15:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, just the most smiley, relaxed people who will absolutely beat the fucking dogshit out of you.

• 1:15:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:40Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:15:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:40Mark Gagnon?

  Do you think McGregor?

• 1:15:42Speaker 00

  He was injured before.

• 1:15:43Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:15:44Speaker 00

  So the question, I think now, isn't whether he was, I think it's whether he was aware of the extent. It is very possible that he just jumped, does the kick, and then lands in that angle, and you could see the knee kind of buckle inward, which is like usually what an ACL or MCL injury is. But it's also the case that these guys in fight camp, no guy goes into a fight healthy. You are literally fighting to train for a fight. Have you ever had a fight that you walked out and you're like, oh, I feel great? You know what I mean? Like?

• 1:16:18Mark Gagnon?

  I was fucking jogging yesterday, I rolled my ankle.

• 1:16:20Speaker 00

  That's it. It's in two weeks, yeah. So it's like, and these guys are doing that every day for training. So everything, I imagine, hurts going into a fight. So no one's a hundred percent healthy, but you fucking stiff upper lip it.

• 1:16:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:31Speaker 00

  The question is...

• 1:16:32Mark Gagnon?

  I heard he was practicing that exact kick in the locker room.

• 1:16:36Speaker 00

  They show a video of it.

• 1:16:37Mark Gagnon?

  And he looks perfect.

• 1:16:37Speaker 00

  And it looks good. Okay? And now, everybody's reading into everything. He was taking off his shoe, and he kind of like hobbles a little, you know, there's all these different things. The way that it, what I thought was so interesting about it, and I think there's a lot of things they're adding to it, is if you looked at his demeanor the day of the fight, it was so different than we've ever seen Connor look going into a fight.

• 1:17:01Mark Gagnon?

  Interesting.

• 1:17:03Speaker 00

  I don't know if, again, keep in mind, he hasn't fought for five years. He got too into alcohol and maybe other substances. He'd even acknowledged as much and that kind of got like a grip of him. And then it looked like he had pulled himself away from that, we hope. And then dedicated himself one more time. And I think he was looking at this as like this beautiful rebirth. You know, like maybe he connected with God in a different way. And he was hoping to have that same rebirth. And then he went back to the source of all his pride.

• 1:17:33Speaker 01

  Did he wear all white?

• 1:17:35Speaker 00

  Hmm, did he?

• 1:17:36Speaker 01

  No, that's the secret though. If he's reborn.

• 1:17:40Speaker 00

  He's still in the darkness.

• 1:17:43Speaker 01

  Come on, man.

• 1:17:44Speaker 00

  So I wonder, I wonder if it's like, so I, there's a part of me where I felt really bad. Cause I imagine he was like, I'm gonna be reborn in this thing that I dedicated my life to before the money, before the fame, when I was doing it just to be the best at this specific thing. And then he goes out there, tries to do it, then immediately snaps and he can't even deliver. Even if he went out on a shield, he could do it with a sense of bravery and honor. But going out on like that, it's like.

• 1:18:13Speaker 01

  Just that.

• 1:18:14Speaker 00

  And there's a moment where it looks like he like breaks down in the ring. He like, Max says something to him and then he like covers his face and he like, I think goes down on his knees and then he gets back up and I think he tries to like fight through it. But of course, you know, Twitter and Reddit are gonna do all these things. But oh, he was going to a pain management institute and all this other stuff. And it's like, okay, yeah, maybe he was feeling pain because he's kicking shit for two months, getting ready for a fight.

• 1:18:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. People are like, why would he open up with that kick? I saw a compilation of him opening like all of his fights.

• 1:18:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, he does like a crazy thing. But again, it's just like, it's just one of, you would hope that he wasn't injured going in. There's a chance that his knee was compromised, like his elbow's been compromised or his leg is in compromise. Like when he fought Dustin and then, and he shattered his leg. It's like, that was probably compromised going in. But he was like, you know what, I'm gonna fight anyway. When he won the championship and then won the other one at the same time, he was also probably compromised. So I wonder if in your head as a fighter, you're like, yeah, yeah, my knee hurts, my shin hurts, my fucking jaw hurts, but like this is what we do.

• 1:19:19Speaker 01

  Probably an age and recovery thing as well.

• 1:19:21Speaker 00

  Oh, of course.

• 1:19:21Speaker 01

  Yo, my knee hurt like this five, 10 years ago and I fought through it and won. But it's not the same knee.

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• 1:22:40Speaker 01

  And even his response here is kind of sad again. I have like a little bit of a soft spot for Connor. I know like reputationally, there's all sorts of things going on, but even just reading this, it's like, damn, like my head's gone, destroyed. I had no injury, injuries going into the fight. I was throwing kicks, planting, jumping throughout the camp as well as backstage before the fight, came out of nowhere. I'm beyond dark here. I can only describe it as hell.

• 1:23:00Mark Gagnon?

  Damn.

• 1:23:01Speaker 01

  I was so sharp and so ready for this fight. Can't believe what has happened. The talk of me being awful, walking into the fight is nonsense. I was calm, ready, and confident. I'm in shock what has taken place. The devil is literally staring at me right now in front of my face here. I'm not engaging. We'll be at church tomorrow. I will overcome.

• 1:23:17Mark Gagnon?

  Whoa. Check on, check on Connor, bro.

• 1:23:20Speaker 00

  Oh, absolutely. Check on him. Like, that's a dark.

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  Then he's like, very much found God again. Again, it's difficult to know like really what's going on, but.

• 1:23:30Speaker 00

  And it seemed that he had found it before. And like, yeah, I don't know, I have a soft spot for him as well. Like, he reached the pinnacle, the highest of the highest, and I think that like, he was, he was getting asked questions in his conference, like, you know, sometimes maybe it feels a little different from your support from Ireland. Like, I don't know, maybe the Irish support for him lessened or whatever. I don't know exactly what the relationship with him and Ireland was, but like, yeah, you, you almost like, you just kind of want to see somebody who's, who's had it, that he's down and out and struggling, like, get another chance to live up to that thing that he could possibly be. And maybe it wasn't his time, but you hope he finds a way.

• 1:24:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:16Speaker 00

  You know? I mean, what a fucking life this guy's lived.

• 1:24:19Mark Gagnon?

  Crazy.

• 1:24:20Speaker 00

  Being on fucking welfare to go and be a double champ.

• 1:24:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:22Speaker 00

  Making hundreds of millions of dollars and then squandering the thing that like, maybe he wanted all the, the whole time.

• 1:24:32Mark Gagnon?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:24:33Speaker 00

  You know, it's like, oof.

• 1:24:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Don't he got a case on him though?

• 1:24:38Speaker 00

  Damn, you with the Ali got C on you, bro.

• 1:24:40Mark Gagnon?

  I'm just saying. Everybody talks about him so poetically, but nah, like, come on.

• 1:24:45Speaker 00

  Cause it's, cause.

• 1:24:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yami looking past that shit kinda easy.

• 1:24:49Speaker 00

  No, no, I don't think it's, cause I think a lot of times it's not about, yeah. But like, I, I don't think it's about the person as much as like, you want to know that that's possible.

• 1:25:02Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:25:03Speaker 00

  In life.

• 1:25:04Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:25:04Speaker 00

  You know what I mean? Like, I think sometimes like, people are representations for what we hope can happen in the world. You know, like, you're seeing this guy get humbled, humbled. Now, does he still have hundreds of millions of dollars? Does he still have fucking yacht in Dubai he can live? Does he still have a family? He still has all the fucking things. So, we're putting this like sad story on someone who's like, he's gonna be alright. You know what I mean? Like, okay, so he didn't get to come back after five years and then knock out one of the fucking greatest MMA fighters in history, Max Holloway, and then have everyone love him again? Yeah, it does seem.

• 1:25:36Mark Gagnon?

  We wanted to see the Rocky story.

• 1:25:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's the thing, I don't know if I have a vested interest in Conor as like the person, cause I don't know this person.

• 1:25:42Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 1:25:42Speaker 01

  But it's sort of in like his, his legend.

• 1:25:45Speaker 00

  As a, as a mythical figure.

• 1:25:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:47Speaker 00

  You want to see, I'm trying to think of like a historical archetype.

• 1:25:53Speaker 00

  You know, like I wanted to like

• 1:25:54Speaker 01

  Like Odysseus type shit?

• 1:25:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, you want to see Odysseus get home?

• 1:25:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:58Speaker 00

  Like, is he gonna be able to get home?

• 1:26:01Speaker 00

  And who knows what home is? Like, maybe home ain't knocking people out anymore.

• 1:26:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:06Speaker 00

  But maybe home is helping people. Maybe home is helping the people in Ireland that were in similar situations as him. You know?

• 1:26:14Mark Gagnon?

  Do you think he hangs it up?

• 1:26:17Speaker 00

  This is the toughest time in any fighter's life. When you get older in general, sports break you.

• 1:26:26Speaker 00

  So it's like, he's already broken one leg. Now he's the other knee. He's gonna recover this and he's gonna put so much stress on the other leg while recovering this that that one's probably gonna be weaker. Like, what happens is your body gives up before your brain gives up. And then athletes naturally are so competitive, they don't know what else to do. So they'll find, this right here never stops thinking you're great. Or maybe it has moments where you're humble, but like, never stops wanting to be great.

• 1:26:53Speaker 01

  But that's why I have so much respect for Khabib. Like, at the peak of his career, he's like, I'm done.

• 1:26:58Speaker 00

  I did it.

• 1:26:59Speaker 01

  I submit to Allah, I'm gonna train these boys to be great fighters. He just taps out.

• 1:27:03Speaker 00

  I respect him, man.

• 1:27:04Speaker 01

  It's like, he played it perfectly.

• 1:27:06Speaker 00

  I respect him.

• 1:27:07Mark Gagnon?

  He did ayahuasca. We're just enlightening people, man.

• 1:27:11Speaker 00

  He got God, bro. He got God.

• 1:27:12Mark Gagnon?

  You guys are in the matrix, bro.

• 1:27:14Speaker 00

  But that's, but that's the thing is like, and Khabib has managed to like stay in the spotlight for sure. But I think, um,

• 1:27:22Speaker 00

  but I think what happens a lot of times for guys is like, you find out what you wanted in this thing in the first place. You know, it's like, if you like the competition of going out there and just like sparring and stuff, you can do that without the bright shiny lights and all the money. You know, like, and maybe Khabib learns that he didn't need that. Maybe he got enough money and then maybe he learned that there was joy in other places. Some people learn that they like the shiny lights and this is just the only way they could get it. And now they have to do this horrible thing for their mind and body so they could get their fix. Yeah, over here.

• 1:27:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:55Speaker 00

  Which is just the love and adulation of the people.

• 1:27:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:58Speaker 01

  I do like the Catholic turn. I mean, just posting like the whole creed right here.

• 1:28:02Mark Gagnon?

  You would.

• 1:28:02Speaker 01

  I support anyone Catholic.

• 1:28:04Speaker 00

  But I think he was on it before, no?

• 1:28:06Speaker 01

  I, I, I wasn't tracking it. But seeing it here, I'm like, fire.

• 1:28:12Speaker 01

  Come on, dude. I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. Love that. But I mean, you know, McGregor's not doing so good, but at least Mitch McConnell is better than ever. It seems like.

• 1:28:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:23Speaker 01

  You've seen these videos going around.

• 1:28:24Mark Gagnon?

  He's so funny.

• 1:28:25Speaker 01

  He's popping out.

• 1:28:26Speaker 00

  Oh, that's fire, bro.

• 1:28:28Speaker 01

  I mean, you're telling me this guy's sick, dude? This guy can definitely run the country. He's in a great, he's in great shape.

• 1:28:34Speaker 01

  Look at his wife, his wife is happy.

• 1:28:38Mark Gagnon?

  The wildest shit is though, when he has this whatever health issue and then she just went to China for bad law.

• 1:28:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:28:44Speaker 00

  I mean, her job is done.

• 1:28:49Speaker 00

  She better go back home before they arrest her ass here. Right?

• 1:28:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a little sketchy timing.

• 1:28:54Mark Gagnon?

  That's funny.

• 1:28:55Speaker 00

  Son, they're sketchy.

• 1:28:56Speaker 01

  Did she never like the vice president or something?

• 1:28:58Mark Gagnon?

  Think about that.

• 1:28:59Speaker 00

  You know what?

• 1:28:59Mark Gagnon?

  Sick.

• 1:29:00Speaker 00

  Go, go, go, go.

• 1:29:00Mark Gagnon?

  No, it just, people aren't really putting enough emphasis on that. You're in the hospital and your wife just takes a trip.

• 1:29:08Speaker 00

  Son.

• 1:29:08Mark Gagnon?

  There's no reason for your wife to take a trip.

• 1:29:10Speaker 01

  She's not a doctor. They got doctors there, she's got stuff to do, you know?

• 1:29:16Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy. That's crazy.

• 1:29:19Speaker 00

  If, if everything wasn't a conspiracy now, like you know how nobody believes anything? We can't even like, we, it's just like, I don't even know where the Charlie Kirk trial is right now. Like, I don't even know what's happening. But nothing is real and nothing is fake. We just live in like post-truth or whatever it is, right?

• 1:29:40Speaker 00

  It is a little bit of a shame because if we still lived in the we believe everything era. This story and the Lindsey Graham story would have the internet on fire. I don't even worry about this. Except Jimmy Kimmel posted a picture on Instagram with him in a hospital. And I DM'd him like, yo, are you okay? And he sent me back a Twitter of Mitch McConnell and I was like, you motherfucker. The one time I believe, the one time I believed the internet.

• 1:30:09Speaker 01

  You keep getting guy.

• 1:30:12Speaker 00

  I still think that's Holland though. I think Holland knows the internet. I think, I think Holland knows it. Anyway, the point being, the, it's like, this is an insane story, what they are alleging, what the conspiracy theorists are alleging.

• 1:30:24Speaker 01

  Which one?

• 1:30:25Speaker 00

  The one with Mitch McConnell, like where he actually has died. And if he's, his death isn't announced until after the election, then I think they can like just insert anybody that they want in place. Is that the idea?

• 1:30:39Speaker 01

  If it's announced after mid-August, they don't have to do a special election and they'll do the original election that they're planning on doing. He's retiring.

• 1:30:46Speaker 00

  God, they would do the original, but if they do, if he dies before, they would do a special election.

• 1:30:51Speaker 01

  And the special election could be screwed up because other people could join.

• 1:30:54Speaker 00

  Thomas Massey joins and that's maybe what they're trying to avoid.

• 1:30:57Speaker 01

  Yes, they're trying to avoid.

• 1:30:58Speaker 00

  So they're trying to say that he's alive when everybody's like, nah, my man is dead. And his wife fled the country.

• 1:31:07Speaker 01

  And met with like some like high ranking Chinese government people or something like that. I don't know the exact details, but something like.

• 1:31:13Speaker 00

  But like, what world do we live in where this isn't even a crazy story anymore? It's just kind of funny.

• 1:31:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:31:19Speaker 00

  And then like Lindsey Graham goes to fucking Ukraine.

• 1:31:22Speaker 01

  Visits the drone shop.

• 1:31:24Speaker 00

  Visits the drone shop and then gets back in a timeline that according to the Iranian Twitter channel, is not possible to get back and now he's dead.

• 1:31:35Speaker 01

  And then his sister finishes his term?

• 1:31:37Speaker 00

  How the fuck does that work? How you get to throw your sister in there?

• 1:31:41Mark Gagnon?

  And all people are talking about is how gay he was. Not even that he possibly got taken out by the gun. He gay, right?

• 1:31:52Speaker 00

  If I, but if I was our government and we had to come and we had to cover up the fact that a foreign country murdered one of our government representatives? I would say, yo, say you sucked his dick. Cause now we talking about how you sucked his dick, not the fact that Putin took out one of our.

• 1:32:09Speaker 01

  Oh, that's smart.

• 1:32:10Speaker 00

  Our senators.

• 1:32:11Speaker 01

  And maybe that's why Putin took him out.

• 1:32:13Speaker 00

  Because?

• 1:32:13Speaker 01

  He's gay.

• 1:32:15Speaker 00

  Oh, we can't have that shit in Ukraine.

• 1:32:16Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying. It's like, yo, you're getting too close.

• 1:32:18Speaker 00

  He getting too close. We don't do that shit over here.

• 1:32:20Speaker 01

  I'm pretty sure Russia came out and they said, we have no gay people in our country.

• 1:32:23Speaker 00

  That was Iran.

• 1:32:25Speaker 01

  No, I think Russia said that like five, six years ago.

• 1:32:27Speaker 00

  They had two little lesbian singing girls.

• 1:32:28Speaker 01

  They got them out.

• 1:32:29Speaker 00

  They still in there, bro. Get out of here. What was the name of that band?

• 1:32:32Mark Gagnon?

  I think they locked them up.

• 1:32:33Speaker 00

  Pussy Riot.

• 1:32:34Mark Gagnon?

  They locked them up.

• 1:32:35Speaker 00

  They locked them up, yeah.

• 1:32:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then they had Brittany Griner for a little bit and they were like, get her out of here.

• 1:32:40Speaker 00

  We'll trade her for anybody. We'll trade her for Jonah Hill in that movie.

• 1:32:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it is crazy. To me, I'm like, these guys are just so old. Like, he's regardless of his health or whatever.

• 1:32:55Speaker 00

  Lance Graham was not that old, bro. He was 70 years old.

• 1:32:57Speaker 01

  Seventy one.

• 1:32:58Speaker 00

  Seventy one is not that old, bro.

• 1:33:00Mark Gagnon?

  The average age of the senate, I think, is 64.

• 1:33:03Speaker 00

  That's nuts.

• 1:33:03Speaker 01

  That's pretty old, dude.

• 1:33:04Speaker 00

  That's nuts. Is that that old?

• 1:33:07Speaker 01

  That's pretty.

• 1:33:07Mark Gagnon?

  If you retire at 65.

• 1:33:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:09Speaker 00

  The average.

• 1:33:11Speaker 01

  If you fly a plane for Delta.

• 1:33:12Speaker 00

  The average is retiring.

• 1:33:13Speaker 01

  You fly a plane for Delta, they make you quit when you're like 65.

• 1:33:17Mark Gagnon?

  62, I think.

• 1:33:18Speaker 01

  Cause it's going down every day. Like, if you were 62 and you're locked in doing weights every day, they say nope.

• 1:33:24Speaker 00

  I keep hearing people say this about like, oh, we gotta get old people out of the fucking. Whatever, like old people out of positions of power, whatever.

• 1:33:31Mark Gagnon?

  Term limits, yeah.

• 1:33:32Speaker 00

  But like.

• 1:33:33Mark Gagnon?

  Age limits.

• 1:33:34Speaker 00

  I don't know, man.

• 1:33:36Mark Gagnon?

  I think term limits. I think term limits.

• 1:33:38Speaker 00

  Old people are kinda lit.

• 1:33:41Speaker 00

  Cause they seen it all.

• 1:33:42Speaker 01

  They haven't seen all of it, bro. Mitch McConnell thinks that he's dancing.

• 1:33:46Speaker 00

  Mitch McConnell.

• 1:33:47Speaker 01

  He probably saw the video of him and he was like, I did that?

• 1:33:48Speaker 00

  No, I don't think Mitch McConnell is lit.

• 1:33:52Speaker 01

  But he's so old.

• 1:33:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, he is old, but man.

• 1:33:54Mark Gagnon?

  Like the time when he just froze. Like, you saw when he just like froze.

• 1:33:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, like.

• 1:34:00Speaker 01

  He should have been out of there after that.

• 1:34:02Speaker 00

  No, maybe we should put a limit on, on, on an age. But then if, if the age, then if life expectancy goes up.

• 1:34:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I don't like the age thing because some old people sharp. Fucking Bernie is still.

• 1:34:16Speaker 01

  Maybe it's some type of quiz.

• 1:34:17Speaker 00

  Here's the thing that's interesting. It's like, everybody said, we gotta get these old people out of power. And then Warren Buffett, his stock is through the roof and you invest in his stock and you never once were like, Warren gotta step down. So as long as you're making money off the old people, all of a sudden old people being charged. It's more, I don't like the opinions of this person that happens to be old. Bernie, they're like, they never said Bernie should step down one time. Right? They was telling us Biden was alive for four years. They were like, he's not even old. This is ageism.

• 1:34:48Speaker 01

  But Bernie knows baseball stats from the 1800s.

• 1:34:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, come on.

• 1:34:50Speaker 01

  So that's, that's gonna be like, ah, he's pretty good.

• 1:34:52Speaker 00

  So maybe it's, so, so that's, I guess my point is it's really not about your mental acuity. It's not even about your age. It's just about your opinion.

• 1:34:59Speaker 01

  You gotta do an Instagram live and we gotta test if you're still locked in.

• 1:35:02Speaker 00

  If you can, I can't even do that probably technologically speaking.

• 1:35:05Speaker 01

  Exhibit A.

• 1:35:06Mark Gagnon?

  You can't.

• 1:35:08Speaker 00

  I got you.

• 1:35:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, hang it up, bro.

• 1:35:10Speaker 01

  You thought the hollow, but he was real. That's what I'm saying, dude.

• 1:35:12Speaker 00

  And that shit is real, bro. Tell me it doesn't go with his personality. Perfectly goes with his online personality.

• 1:35:19Speaker 01

  That's how they get you. That's how they get you, dude.

• 1:35:22Mark Gagnon?

  That's a good video.

• 1:35:22Speaker 01

  They gotta do some type of test to see if you're still mentally sharp. I don't know exactly what it is.

• 1:35:26Speaker 00

  Yes, that I agree.

• 1:35:27Mark Gagnon?

  But then you got the motherfuckers, Trump says, oh, I passed it with flying colors, perfect score.

• 1:35:32Speaker 01

  If he did, then you let him rock. You know, I'm just saying, you gotta.

• 1:35:34Speaker 00

  Why don't we do term limits? Like you said.

• 1:35:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:37Speaker 00

  Why don't we do for, what is it? For House of Representatives, you do like. Four terms. For the senate, you just do two terms, because now you're in power for 12 years. That's a lot.

• 1:35:44Mark Gagnon?

  That's a lot.

• 1:35:45Speaker 00

  And then for, uh.

• 1:35:47Mark Gagnon?

  I give them four for the house.

• 1:35:49Speaker 00

  Four?

• 1:35:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:50Speaker 00

  So, so now you're at eight years?

• 1:35:52Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:52Speaker 00

  That's, I'm sorry, that's what I meant.

• 1:35:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:54Speaker 00

  Fuck it, do six. So now both of you can be in power for 12 total years.

• 1:35:58Speaker 01

  And you have to be able to use Uber Eats pretty quick. Or something. There's gotta be some other type of thing where it's like, oh, no, he knows how to do it. And he knows how to do not delivery or pickup. You know, like, you know, it's like all the buttons.

• 1:36:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:36:08Speaker 01

  It's gotta be some other thing.

• 1:36:10Speaker 00

  You gotta be able to call me FaceTime audio without the FaceTime coming on.

• 1:36:13Speaker 01

  Oh, that's good, actually. That's really good. That's really hard. Yeah, yeah. Older people have a really tough time with that.

• 1:36:18Mark Gagnon?

  They can't do that shit.

• 1:36:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's impossible.

• 1:36:21Speaker 00

  But again, we like our old people that make us feel validated in our opinions. So it's really not about, i- if it's about age, we gotta keep it a buck across. Warren Buffett gotta step down. Okay? The McDonald's guy gotta go.

• 1:36:34Mark Gagnon?

  We should talk about elected official.

• 1:36:37Speaker 00

  Nah. All old people. If it's about age, you gotta go. Fuck elected officials. Everybody old gotta step down. I don't agree with this personally.

• 1:36:48Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:48Speaker 00

  But I do agree with term limits. But should a 90-year-old be able to run?

• 1:36:52Speaker 01

  No, I'm trying to figure out a system.

• 1:36:54Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, can they run for the first?

• 1:36:56Speaker 00

  What about Buzz Aldrin?

• 1:36:58Speaker 01

  No. He's old.

• 1:36:59Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, wait, wait. That's come.

• 1:37:01Speaker 00

  My man fucking walked on the moon, bro.

• 1:37:03Mark Gagnon?

  Legend.

• 1:37:04Speaker 01

  No, you can't let old people do this shit. They gotta have, they gotta have time. And I'm trying to figure out the system that works and it's very.

• 1:37:10Speaker 00

  I don't think you should be able to, I don't think young people should be able to say anything.

• 1:37:15Speaker 01

  Well, 35 is president.

• 1:37:16Speaker 00

  No, I mean, like, at what age should you be allowed to say things?

• 1:37:20Speaker 01

  Oh, talk?

• 1:37:20Mark Gagnon?

  After 25.

• 1:37:22Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:37:22Speaker 01

  And that's even early, yeah.

• 1:37:23Speaker 00

  Think about it. All the shit, not all of it, but like, a lot of the shit that you do, you're like, I can't believe I did that. Like, think about any girl that did a fucking Bang Bus video or some shit while she was in college. Like, she not doing that at 30.

• 1:37:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah. So you can make some mistakes. You got it till 25.

• 1:37:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, 25 is not bad.

• 1:37:42Mark Gagnon?

  But then even then, you could talk, we might not take you serious.

• 1:37:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's an interim period from 25 to like 30 something.

• 1:37:48Speaker 00

  30, I think, is a good number, bro. Cause 30 reality sense.

• 1:37:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:53Speaker 00

  And you start realizing like, oh, the decisions that you make, you know, definitely are gonna affect the rest of your life. And that's kind of, that's kind of who you need in elected positions of power.

• 1:38:03Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, and it's like, if you 30, you're still doing bank butts, like, alright.

• 1:38:07Speaker 00

  That you love that.

• 1:38:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, you love that.

• 1:38:09Speaker 00

  You believe in it.

• 1:38:10Mark Gagnon?

  That's what it is.

• 1:38:11Speaker 00

  You ever seen them old porn stars, like the old ones? That's, you are, you are loyal to the soil, bro. I like seeing them old bitches.

• 1:38:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like seeing like a, like, I don't know, like a legend in the league, you know what I mean? It's like Vince Carter in his last season, you're like, yo, dude, he's fucking built for this.

• 1:38:28Speaker 00

  LeBron loves this game. He got no reason to be playing basketball.

• 1:38:32Mark Gagnon?

  No reason to play.

• 1:38:32Speaker 00

  He got his kid in it, guaranteed contract. You could go do whatever the fuck you wanna do.

• 1:38:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that's love.

• 1:38:37Speaker 00

  He is, he loves it.

• 1:38:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:40Speaker 00

  He loves it so much, he's trying to not play with his kid. He got his kid, the guaranteed contract. The Lakers guaranteed, the next day LeBron said, I'm out, I'm not signing up with the Lakers.

• 1:38:50Mark Gagnon?

  Speaking of that, has he decided where he's going yet?

• 1:38:53Speaker 00

  No, he has not, because he's waiting on the, uh, the trial for Kawhi to pan out.

• 1:39:01Mark Gagnon?

  A trial? What do you mean? Oh, the shit that his uncle is doing.

• 1:39:03Speaker 00

  No, trial, investigation of Kawhi.

• 1:39:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:06Mark Gagnon?

  But I thought he's in Toronto.

• 1:39:08Speaker 00

  Well, Toronto's not gonna do it until they figure out all the logistics of that thing.

• 1:39:13Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, wow, I thought that was a done deal already, okay.

• 1:39:15Speaker 00

  Well, I think it was an agreement, but I think the NBA won't allow it to go through until they finish their investigation with the Clippers.

• 1:39:21Mark Gagnon?

  Damn.

• 1:39:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:39:22Mark Gagnon?

  That's gonna be bad, cause we know he's, yeah, that's gonna be bad.

• 1:39:27Speaker 00

  Come on, bro. Cause if it goes through and they, they let him off, LeBron could take that minimum and then just get paid through. Let me tell you who's not gonna take that.

• 1:39:35Mark Gagnon?

  Let's say if he does go, where LeBron gonna go?

• 1:39:37Speaker 00

  Cleveland.

• 1:39:38Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, I mean.

• 1:39:39Speaker 00

  He ain't going back to Cleveland.

• 1:39:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, so why does the Kawhi thing have anything to do with?

• 1:39:42Speaker 00

  The Cleveland thing, in my opinion, is only cause it looks sick and if the money, if. If he can take vet minimum but get make all his money in different ways, then yeah, he goes back to Cleveland. Why is he, first of all, he's not taking vet minimum. Second of all, why would he go to Cleveland?

• 1:39:55Speaker 01

  Legacy player.

• 1:39:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, legacy player. That minimum thing is only because he's gonna get paid through other. Why is it a legacy player? Explain that to me.

• 1:40:03Speaker 01

  It's where he started, that's where he's from.

• 1:40:05Speaker 00

  And he brought it back to them.

• 1:40:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, he brings the chip back and then ends his career with the people that gave him a chance where he's from, where he's born and bred.

• 1:40:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I don't think, and he might go and give a fuck, except the people in Cleveland.

• 1:40:16Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying, those are his people.

• 1:40:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but I mean.

• 1:40:18Speaker 00

  His people are where he lives.

• 1:40:20Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:40:21Speaker 00

  Los Angeles, California. You think his wife wants to move back to Cleveland, Ohio?

• 1:40:27Speaker 01

  No, she's staying in LA.

• 1:40:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, so then he definitely ain't going to Cleveland. If, if his wife says, and this with all due respect, but if his wife is like, you know what? I'm gonna stay here with the kids, you go wherever you need to go. He's going to Miami. He might be going to fucking Ibiza. Does Ibiza have a basketball team? You know, there's no way now. He's going to fucking Cleveland if wife is not coming. You're out of your mind.

• 1:40:53Speaker 01

  It's just the legacy, bro. It's the legacy.

• 1:40:55Speaker 00

  He's going to Paris.

• 1:40:56Speaker 01

  I mean, he can't go to the Knicks now, though.

• 1:40:58Speaker 00

  No, he can't. We don't want him.

• 1:40:59Mark Gagnon?

  We won't take him.

• 1:41:01Speaker 00

  We don't want him.

• 1:41:02Mark Gagnon?

  If you, if you want to play for free, we, we won't.

• 1:41:04Speaker 00

  We wouldn't even take him.

• 1:41:05Speaker 01

  The way Lakers fans have talked about this period is so funny. Just all my LA friends just like, ugh, it's been such a drag. All my LA friends are like, this period with LeBron has just been like, hopes and dreams and nothing ever like actually manifests.

• 1:41:19Speaker 00

  They got a chip. They got a little, uh, what's it called? Bubble chip?

• 1:41:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it's like a chip with an asterisk.

• 1:41:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like a chip and a half.

• 1:41:26Speaker 00

  They got a chip where they didn't get to witness it, which does suck.

• 1:41:31Speaker 01

  But I would, I would also. The Knicks won in a bubble. How would you feel?

• 1:41:34Speaker 00

  I would feel elated. I would be right outside the bubble coughing in that.

• 1:41:39Mark Gagnon?

  I would have been in the bubble. I would have got it.

• 1:41:40Speaker 00

  I would have found a way. I'd be serving chicken nuggets and french fries, whoever the fuck wanted it. I would be in that bubble.

• 1:41:46Mark Gagnon?

  That bitch. I would have been in the boat. Absolutely.

• 1:41:49Speaker 00

  I would find a way. I would find a way.

• 1:41:53Speaker 01

  I don't know. I feel like you'd be like, all right, we can't all, like in the back of your mind, it'd be like, nah.

• 1:41:57Speaker 00

  Bro, you really don't understand how long it's been.

• 1:41:59Speaker 01

  I don't. I truly don't.

• 1:42:00Speaker 00

  You don't understand how long it's been.

• 1:42:01Speaker 01

  It came home, dude. It came home.

• 1:42:04Speaker 00

  It came home.

• 1:42:05Mark Gagnon?

  We went to San Antonio.

• 1:42:06Speaker 00

  Sorry, almost got killed.

• 1:42:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, put your life on the line.

• 1:42:10Speaker 00

  Put our life on the line for that team. Actually, to get a Whataburger.

• 1:42:14Mark Gagnon?

  As big bitches as San Antonio.

• 1:42:16Speaker 00

  They scary. I thought they were gonna be bigger if I'm being a hundred with you. The game didn't have that many big ones.

• 1:42:22Mark Gagnon?

  Barkley really did a number on them. That's fucked up, cuz he gave them a bad rap and it's not even that bad. But everybody just says San Antonio.

• 1:42:31Speaker 00

  I thought it was too.

• 1:42:32Speaker 01

  Maybe they took the criticism in stride.

• 1:42:34Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 1:42:34Speaker 01

  Maybe the ZMP came out and they were like, you know what, Chuck's right.

• 1:42:37Speaker 00

  So they had an insecurity. So they're like, we gotta, we gotta make up for this.

• 1:42:41Speaker 01

  Think about who's got the shiniest teeth in all of Europe now. You know what I'm saying, is the English, bro. Like every time you see an English dude get some money.

• 1:42:49Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't know that.

• 1:42:49Speaker 01

  They all get the big shiny chompers, dude.

• 1:42:52Speaker 00

  Because for fucking centuries, they were known for having the worst teeth.

• 1:42:56Speaker 01

  They call them snaggle teeth, angler fish, like, yeah. And then all of a sudden, they get, you know, 10 grand, they're like, dude, I'm getting giant.

• 1:43:02Mark Gagnon?

  But why they getting the bad ones? Why, cuz they doing good now?

• 1:43:05Speaker 01

  They're getting the big ones, you know what I mean?

• 1:43:07Speaker 00

  The flattest girls get the biggest tits.

• 1:43:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Ah, so, I'm like, yo, I'm good now.

• 1:43:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, look at me, my teeth are okay.

• 1:43:15Speaker 01

  You want the natural off white or do you want the shiny?

• 1:43:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:18Speaker 01

  They go, give me shiny, bro, give me the shiny.

• 1:43:20Mark Gagnon?

  Funny, I haven't even seen that, but I guess that's a thing.

• 1:43:23Speaker 00

  No, it's bad, bro. I don't even know if they, they don't even put the separations in the teeth sometimes. It just looks like they're wearing like a mouthpiece for like a hockey.

• 1:43:31Speaker 01

  They get two teeth put in, yeah, that's it. Two curvy little teeth, bang, never floss again.

• 1:43:36Mark Gagnon?

  They should go to, I think Turkey's doing that, right? They do.

• 1:43:39Speaker 00

  Turkey really is upgrading everyone. Isn't that kinda interesting? Like you go get your hair done. Yo, is it, can I just ask this question? With this, no disrespect to Turkey, but why do they wanna make men so handsome? Like they made, they built their whole economy around making guys hotter.

• 1:44:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:05Speaker 00

  Like you don't go to Turkey to get new tits or, or an ass or like do liposuction. Turkey's like, come here, brother. We'll make you so hot and handsome. There is a little something gay about that.

• 1:44:18Speaker 01

  A little bit, a little bit.

• 1:44:20Speaker 00

  They need to.

• 1:44:21Speaker 01

  They brought the overall average of men up at least two points.

• 1:44:24Speaker 00

  But for whose game, bro?

• 1:44:26Mark Gagnon?

  Imagine, you want a Turkey butt lift or a Brazilian butt lift?

• 1:44:30Speaker 00

  No, Al, you're a hundred percent right, but what I'm saying is that like, I would never even think of going to Brazil for veneers. I know if I want to be hotter as a man for cheaper price, they're making men hot for nothing. It's like they're losing money.

• 1:44:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:44Speaker 00

  You know what I mean? Like they're like, yo, we'll, we'll lose, we just need you to be hot. Like they can't wait to make you hot. They need guys to be sexy.

• 1:44:52Speaker 01

  We'll put you in a hotel, we'll fly you out, put you in a resort, the whole deal. And it's like two grand. It's crazy.

• 1:44:58Speaker 00

  What is that saying about like, I don't, I, I honestly say, I'm trying to not be disrespectful over here, but like, why are they so obsessed with making all the men on the planet look good?

• 1:45:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, is Turkey, are they, are they in Burka? Are the women covered?

• 1:45:12Speaker 00

  No, Turkey's a secular nation.

• 1:45:14Speaker 01

  But it's still a little, I guess it's like monarchical, right?

• 1:45:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm, well, I'm not.

• 1:45:20Speaker 01

  But like the elections, they're not always.

• 1:45:23Speaker 00

  That's a fair country, Mark.

• 1:45:26Speaker 01

  I don't know all the details. I just know.

• 1:45:28Speaker 00

  It's completely fair country.

• 1:45:30Speaker 01

  Some comedians get thrown in jail. I don't know. I'm seeing snippets online.

• 1:45:33Speaker 00

  Talking jail. What are you talking about, bro? They're gonna do a comedy festival. Shut the fuck up. Okay, we're gonna go there for fake teeth. We're gonna go, we're gonna get paid in fake teeth and hair transplant. You don't fucking need it, so you don't have to say shit. No, it's a, yeah. No, of course. Yeah. Erdogan is a, probably a dictator.

• 1:45:51Speaker 01

  Maybe. I don't know all the details, but I'm curious what his, what his incentive is to make everyone so hot. It's a good export, you know, like I don't want to, I don't want to invade Turkey. I don't want anything to happen to them. Maybe they're giving themselves some insulation. They're like, hey, you really want to fuck with us? Where are you gonna go, your hot guys from forever, you know?

• 1:46:10Speaker 01

  It's like they're kind of, you know, strategic.

• 1:46:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, kind of smart. It is. I mean, it is kind of smart, but it is crazy that there's not one other country on the planet that is dedicated to making guys hot.

• 1:46:22Speaker 01

  They don't even want you to get fat. Like, they try to give you ice cream, they take it away. You notice that?

• 1:46:27Speaker 00

  They won't let you get. Do they ever do that to the women? No. But the second a guy is trying to look not hot even a little bit, they sneak that ice cream out of your fucking hand.

• 1:46:34Speaker 01

  You want this ice cream? And he goes, I want it. And he goes, nope, no you don't.

• 1:46:37Speaker 00

  Here's a napkin. Keep looking at you, fat fuck.

• 1:46:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't want a napkin, I want the ice cream. And they never give it to him.

• 1:46:43Speaker 00

  Never give it to him. Maybe you get a cone if you're lucky. You get just the cone. But the ice cream, that's way too many calories for you.

• 1:46:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46:50Speaker 00

  I'll, listen, I think Turkey, yeah. I think it's Turkey.

• 1:46:53Speaker 01

  And they're rebranding the name, because they're like, yo, we don't want to be compared to this fat bird. That's the whole thing. Like, we're not Turkey, we're Turkey.

• 1:46:59Speaker 00

  Turkey, yeah.

• 1:47:00Speaker 01

  Turkey.

• 1:47:01Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, really?

• 1:47:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:02Mark Gagnon?

  Turkey, yeah.

• 1:47:02Speaker 01

  All the World Cup announcers are like, yeah, Turkey.

• 1:47:05Speaker 00

  Turkey, yeah.

• 1:47:06Speaker 01

  They officially have to call that.

• 1:47:07Mark Gagnon?

  I was hearing that, and I was like, am I mishearing this?

• 1:47:09Speaker 01

  No, it's Turkey.

• 1:47:10Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:47:10Speaker 00

  Guys, I think we're on to something. We need to ask Erdogan what's up.

• 1:47:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:16Speaker 00

  Because he's, he's, if there was a country that you would think, based on their exports and their economy, was a homosexual nation,

• 1:47:30Speaker 00

  it would be France.

• 1:47:34Speaker 01

  Like, without a doubt.

• 1:47:34Speaker 00

  Without a doubt, it would be France. It would be the French. They would be.

• 1:47:38Speaker 01

  There's gayer countries. There's gayer countries.

• 1:47:40Speaker 00

  Is there a gayer country than France?

• 1:47:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:43Speaker 00

  But what I would say is France has outsourced their, making guys hot enough to suck up their cocks a lot. Right? So it's like, France is like, our economy can no longer support that, right? We have to put all our money in football and making trans women for Mbappe to devour, right? That's what we have to do. But, but in terms, we had to find an outsourcing. We needed a place to make our sneakers and our clothing, right? We found China, we found, they did that. France needs a place to make guys. Guys in Europe hot.

• 1:48:13Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:48:14Speaker 00

  So they could have sexual intercourse with them. They were sick and tired of looking through the fucking holes in a British guy's mouth. And they're like, there's no way I can put my dick in there. So they found a place they could do it for cheap.

• 1:48:24Speaker 01

  You don't think Thailand is a little gayer?

• 1:48:26Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 1:48:27Speaker 00

  I honestly, if I'm being honest with you.

• 1:48:30Mark Gagnon?

  They're fucking ladies.

• 1:48:32Speaker 00

  Yes. I know I'm being honest with you. You gotta be a man first to be gay. And I don't know if they get there.

• 1:48:42Speaker 01

  It's just boys to women.

• 1:48:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:45Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:48:46Mark Gagnon?

  Gay people don't go to Thailand. It's only straight dudes that go to Thailand.

• 1:48:49Speaker 01

  That's a good point.

• 1:48:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:51Speaker 00

  If you're a gay guy, why would you try to be with the most girly looking man?

• 1:48:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 1:48:55Speaker 00

  That's the least gay you could be.

• 1:48:57Mark Gagnon?

  They running from that.

• 1:48:58Speaker 01

  It's not the least gay.

• 1:48:59Speaker 00

  To me, that's the least gay.

• 1:49:00Speaker 01

  No, it's not the least gay.

• 1:49:02Speaker 00

  It's the least gay gay.

• 1:49:03Speaker 01

  No, that's not the least.

• 1:49:03Speaker 00

  It's the least gay gay.

• 1:49:05Speaker 01

  It's the least gay gay.

• 1:49:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I thought we were talking about. In the spectrum of gay, right? Having sex with a Thai lady boy. I wouldn't even, I'd say that's.

• 1:49:17Speaker 00

  I don't even know if that's gay.

• 1:49:19Speaker 01

  Okay. But it's not perfectly straight.

• 1:49:23Speaker 00

  It's, you know, those.

• 1:49:24Mark Gagnon?

  It's more straight than gay.

• 1:49:27Speaker 00

  Let me ask you this question.

• 1:49:32Speaker 00

  It's way more straight than gay. You know them fish that can kind of fly for a little bit? Are they a bird?

• 1:49:41Speaker 00

  No, we call them fish a bird. No, we called them a bird not one time. You'd be like, wow, those fish can jump out the water for a little bit, but then they get back to fishing.

• 1:49:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:49:51Speaker 00

  That's it.

• 1:49:54Speaker 00

  I don't even know if there's another four words.

• 1:49:56Speaker 01

  You put it in my point, but I give it to you.

• 1:49:57Speaker 00

  No, but it makes sense. It makes sense. I think you're kind of straight. I think if you're going to Thailand to hook up with a lady boy. I, I think you're straight in the way that a fish can fly for a little, a little bit is still a fish.

• 1:50:12Speaker 01

  Still a fish.

• 1:50:13Speaker 00

  When the fish is flying, you're like, is that motherfucking straight?

• 1:50:16Speaker 01

  Bird.

• 1:50:16Speaker 00

  I don't know if that's motherfucking straight.

• 1:50:18Speaker 01

  And then back in.

• 1:50:18Speaker 00

  But then back in, exactly.

• 1:50:20Speaker 01

  That's a fish.

• 1:50:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:50:21Speaker 01

  You don't think America's gayer?

• 1:50:24Speaker 01

  You got probably the most gays.

• 1:50:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what makes us straight.

• 1:50:27Speaker 01

  How does it make us straight?

• 1:50:29Speaker 00

  The country with the most gays is the straightest country.

• 1:50:31Speaker 01

  Wait, why?

• 1:50:32Speaker 00

  Because they can be gay.

• 1:50:34Speaker 01

  Oh, we're the most secure, so we're like, yeah, be gay, it doesn't affect us because we're super straight.

• 1:50:39Speaker 00

  Exactly. Europe is the gayest country because the gays gotta pretend to be normal.

• 1:50:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:50:43Speaker 00

  When you meet a gay in Europe, they have no accent change. We allow the gays to be so gay that they have their own accent, they can indulge in who they truly want to be in their identity. You meet a gay in Britain, you meet a gay in fucking Luxembourg. They just sound like a guy from there. What the fuck is the point? What is the point of that?

• 1:51:03Mark Gagnon?

  And that's why the French sound the way they do because they're just all gay. They're just all gay. That's not an accent.

• 1:51:11Speaker 00

  It's not an accent at all. It's by design.

• 1:51:14Speaker 01

  And so France couldn't make the gays themselves, so they were like, who can do it?

• 1:51:17Speaker 00

  No, France wanted the gays to be even hot. France is about aesthetic and experience and pleasure. Everything touches a pleasure center. What smells the best, what tastes the best, what feels the best, who's the hottest? Okay, we're done fucking ourselves. All the Muslims we bring in, we can't fuck them. Right? Oopsie Daisy, they have a religion that doesn't allow us to gay them up. We gotta go north. The British come in. It's a fucking jack-o'-lantern. You sticking your dick in a pumpkin's mouth that was carved for Halloween? Are you gonna do that?

• 1:51:48Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, man.

• 1:51:50Speaker 00

  Genuinely speaking.

• 1:51:51Speaker 01

  No, no, you can't do that.

• 1:51:52Speaker 00

  We've got to see the Tyson Fury fight this one.

• 1:51:55Speaker 01

  Oh, goodness. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:51:56Speaker 00

  Tyson Fury!

• 1:51:59Mark Gagnon?

  You know, you might get nicked on a fucking crooked tooth or something. Nah, you can't. Needs to be smooth porcelain.

• 1:52:06Speaker 01

  So then you reach out to Turkey, you say, hey?

• 1:52:07Speaker 00

  I don't even know if you gotta reach out. I think Turkey's like, we want hot guys.

• 1:52:11Speaker 01

  Oh, why?

• 1:52:12Speaker 00

  Do you know one? No, they're, they're, they're a gay factory. They're a factory for gays.

• 1:52:18Mark Gagnon?

  What about the Lebanese?

• 1:52:19Speaker 00

  What about them?

• 1:52:20Mark Gagnon?

  Aren't they the gay Muslims?

• 1:52:23Speaker 00

  I think they just say that about them. Because they're kind of accepting of other religions.

• 1:52:29Speaker 01

  No, and...

• 1:52:30Speaker 00

  Is that why?

• 1:52:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, but also who went into Lebanon and taught them a bunch of words? The French.

• 1:52:37Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, man. Come on, man.

• 1:52:39Speaker 00

  Yo, pick your colonizer, yo! Pick your colonizer, bro.

• 1:52:43Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, man.

• 1:52:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good point. It's honestly rock solid.

• 1:52:50Mark Gagnon?

  French is running around just gaying everybody up.

• 1:52:52Speaker 00

  If I was Turkey and I wanted to throw the scent off the gay trail, I would definitely start doing some things to make women hotter, too. That's all I'm trying to say. Do some things to make the women hotter, too. That's it. Those same surgeries can apply to women. Where do women go for to be hotter?

• 1:53:08Speaker 01

  Uh, Brazil.

• 1:53:09Speaker 00

  That's the cheaper place to go. Colombia?

• 1:53:10Speaker 01

  Colombia.

• 1:53:11Mark Gagnon?

  Colombia, yeah.

• 1:53:12Speaker 01

  Colombia.

• 1:53:13Speaker 00

  And if I'm being honest, you go to the place that has the most attractive looking women.

• 1:53:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:53:21Speaker 00

  So, does Turkey have the most attractive looking men? Is that why men are going there? Are they going, "I want to have a hairline like a Turkish guy. I want to have teeth like a Turkish guy." Is this a compliment to the Ottomans? Selective breeding over hundreds and hundreds of years has produced the most handsome men.

• 1:53:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that's interesting.

• 1:53:42Speaker 01

  That's not a bad point.

• 1:53:43Speaker 00

  There's a picture of that Ottoman princess. I'm pretty sure you can bring it up. And this is, this is what the most attractive woman in, in the Ottoman Empire looked like. We could probably get an image of it.

• 1:53:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is, she's been touted at least as, as the most beautiful princess.

• 1:53:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. You're actually nowhere close in that image right there, but you got to find it.

• 1:54:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm gonna find it. But while I pull this up, you really think this guy's gay? Louis XIV?

• 1:54:07Speaker 00

  Was that, was that the XIV?

• 1:54:08Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 1:54:09Speaker 00

  Who, who was the Sun King?

• 1:54:10Speaker 01

  I think it was him. I don't remember.

• 1:54:12Speaker 00

  Cause I thought he had golden hair or whatever. They would pay to watch him shit.

• 1:54:17Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:54:18Speaker 00

  He had a hustle, bro.

• 1:54:19Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 1:54:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, he would just take a dump and motherfuckers would just sit and watch him in his bedroom. People come from all around the world.

• 1:54:26Speaker 01

  And they also came all around the world to court this woman right here.

• 1:54:29Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, shit.

• 1:54:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, F them.

• 1:54:33Speaker 00

  That was a...

• 1:54:34Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, no.

• 1:54:35Speaker 00

  Oh, this is Persia.

• 1:54:37Speaker 01

  The Princess of Persia, I think.

• 1:54:39Speaker 00

  Whoopsie.

• 1:54:40Speaker 01

  But she might have been Ottoman also. I don't, I'm not...

• 1:54:42Speaker 00

  Man, keep that straight clothes, bro. Keep that shit clothes. What we trying to let out of there, man? Now, that's insanity. That's absolute insanity.

• 1:54:55Speaker 01

  Maybe we just don't get it. You know, maybe there's something that we just don't understand.

• 1:54:59Mark Gagnon?

  I see why they went gay.

• 1:55:03Speaker 00

  Bro, look at that thing. Is this a painting or a picture?

• 1:55:07Speaker 01

  I think it's a photograph.

• 1:55:08Speaker 00

  Oh, at least with the paintings, you could spruce them up a little bit. But photographs back in the day are, that is, that is it. Good lord.

• 1:55:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm, I'm trying to figure out exactly where she's from, but I'm assuming this is her again. That's gotta be her, right?

• 1:55:26Mark Gagnon?

  That's rough. You gotta see the black and white picture of it.

• 1:55:30Speaker 01

  Come on, so I'll pull it up.

• 1:55:32Speaker 00

  Get it up, Miles.

• 1:55:33Mark Gagnon?

  Texting it tomorrow.

• 1:55:35Speaker 00

  Get it up, Miles.

• 1:55:37Speaker 01

  Wow. Yeah.

• 1:55:39Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy.

• 1:55:40Speaker 01

  Apparently people were lining up.

• 1:55:41Mark Gagnon?

  Persia would be nice.

• 1:55:42Speaker 00

  This is. Yeah.

• 1:55:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:55:45Mark Gagnon?

  It must have been some inbreeding with this one.

• 1:55:47Speaker 00

  Oh, man, who knows?

• 1:55:49Mark Gagnon?

  Awesome.

• 1:55:50Speaker 01

  Wow, yeah, she was married to an aristocrat and the son of a defense minister. He divorced her, or no, she divorced her husband, breaking a taboo and becoming the first woman in the royal family to get a divorce.

• 1:56:01Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, she was a man.

• 1:56:04Speaker 00

  What you mean?

• 1:56:05Mark Gagnon?

  She just, she just has to.

• 1:56:07Speaker 00

  What you mean? How, what you mean?

• 1:56:10Mark Gagnon?

  You can't be the first to do that. That was a man, bro. She tricked him. Maybe, maybe her matinee.

• 1:56:18Speaker 00

  There's no way.

• 1:56:20Speaker 01

  In 19th century Persia. Mustaches on women were a symbol of beauty. Princess Fatima Khanum, Estamat al-Da'le was the princess in Persia.

• 1:56:30Mark Gagnon?

  This is effing.

• 1:56:31Speaker 00

  It looks so much like him.

• 1:56:33Mark Gagnon?

  Like, come on.

• 1:56:34Speaker 00

  It looks so much like this.

• 1:56:37Mark Gagnon?

  Effing, I love you, bud.

• 1:56:39Speaker 00

  Go back.

• 1:56:39Mark Gagnon?

  You.

• 1:56:40Speaker 00

  Can you make that the whole screen? Go back a little bit. Goodness fucking gracious, dude.

• 1:56:46Mark Gagnon?

  Nah.

• 1:56:47Speaker 01

  Why did Disney never make this movie?

• 1:56:50Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, this is, this is the Olympic boxer that got both the, both the X, Y's and all that.

• 1:56:57Speaker 00

  Zoom in and go down.

• 1:56:58Mark Gagnon?

  This is crazy.

• 1:57:00Speaker 00

  Bro, go up, go up, go up. Let's just look at that head for a second. There's no fucking way.

• 1:57:11Speaker 01

  Maybe she was funny.

• 1:57:14Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, this is the first trance, first trance.

• 1:57:17Speaker 00

  Brother, that is a thick mustache.

• 1:57:20Mark Gagnon?

  I know.

• 1:57:20Speaker 00

  That mustache.

• 1:57:23Mark Gagnon?

  Put the thing on, it's like, yo, I identify as a woman.

• 1:57:27Speaker 00

  Sometimes you just gotta forget parts of your history, man. You don't gotta, like, you don't gotta put everything in the book, you know what I mean? Like, we don't know what Abe Lincoln's wife looked like.

• 1:57:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we don't.

• 1:57:36Speaker 00

  You know, we know the hot wives.

• 1:57:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:39Speaker 00

  But we don't gotta know every president's wife.

• 1:57:42Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, yeah.

• 1:57:42Speaker 00

  That one right there, you just gotta push that to the side. Goodness gracious, bro. Don't, right?

• 1:57:51Speaker 01

  I really don't think that's. I'm reading now, I'm reading about her now.

• 1:57:54Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think it's a woman, I really don't. I don't think it's, I don't think it's possible.

• 1:57:57Speaker 01

  She learned piano and embroidery from a French tutor.

• 1:58:00Speaker 00

  When did she open Halal, guys? That's what I need to know, cuz that guy has put the fucking white sauce, hot sauce on for me for the last 20 years of my life. Look at that fucking thing.

• 1:58:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, nah.

• 1:58:13Speaker 01

  Beauty standards change.

• 1:58:14Speaker 00

  Hopefully it's AI.

• 1:58:15Speaker 01

  Hopefully, you know.

• 1:58:16Speaker 00

  She looked like Matilda's dad.

• 1:58:19Speaker 01

  Danny DeVito?

• 1:58:22Speaker 00

  Bring on Danny DeVito and Matilda. Oh, no.

• 1:58:26Speaker 01

  It's, in her book, uh, this woman describes how men and women in 19th century Persia describe a certain standard of beauty. Women prize their thick eyebrows and the hair above their lip to such an extent that sometimes they painted them on with mascara.

• 1:58:39Speaker 00

  Nah.

• 1:58:41Mark Gagnon?

  They are gay. They even wanted they women to look like that is crazy.

• 1:58:48Speaker 01

  Look, dude, things change, you know?

• 1:58:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:54Mark Gagnon?

  Talk good, man.

• 1:58:54Speaker 01

  I keep staring.

• 1:58:55Speaker 00

  I can't stop, we gotta stop this podcast, we gotta end the podcast.

• 1:58:58Speaker 01

  Okay, let's.

• 1:58:59Speaker 00

  Anything else?

• 1:59:00Speaker 01

  This was, uh, wait, what'd you have, Miles?

• 1:59:02Speaker 04

  Just before we go, uh, Al's a big fat phony and was here watching the game and his story makes it look like he was watching it in the streets of New York City and he wasn't. He was here in the studio. I just wanna bring that up, so.

• 1:59:13Speaker 00

  Wait a minute, what did he say?

• 1:59:15Mark Gagnon?

  Cuz I wanted to watch the game with my girl and y'all wanted to have some long debrief shit back there and so.

• 1:59:24Speaker 01

  Al is such a fucking.

• 1:59:25Mark Gagnon?

  The post where I was supposed to be.

• 1:59:28Speaker 00

  So you posted like you were in Spain?

• 1:59:30Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but it's celebration for my team.

• 1:59:33Speaker 00

  Hold on.

• 1:59:34Mark Gagnon?

  This is. No, not Spain. You did Iowa's. She's up the block. Found fucking mother Gaia and we're like. She's up the block. People gotta think I'm in the streets right now.

• 1:59:41Speaker 01

  It's not even loading for me.

• 1:59:43Speaker 00

  There you go, you see? I look myself.

• 1:59:44Speaker 01

  It's not even loading for me.

• 1:59:45Speaker 00

  I look myself.

• 1:59:46Mark Gagnon?

  That's the universe, that's God right there.

• 1:59:48Speaker 01

  There's something, I don't know what that is. Yeah, dude, we're loading. Hold on, do you have it?

• 1:59:53Speaker 00

  No, I gotta bring it up right now.

• 1:59:55Mark Gagnon?

  It's fire, bro.

• 1:59:56Speaker 01

  Also, shout out to Miles just for being an all-time hater.

• 1:59:59Mark Gagnon?

  He is, he is.

• 2:00:00Speaker 01

  Not when you get away with this.

• 2:00:01Mark Gagnon?

  I know. Come on, we celebrating. This is the streets of New York.

• 2:00:06Speaker 00

  Oh, hell no.

• 2:00:07Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, no. Yeah, we don't even know if you're in San Antonio now. Nah, we up the block.

• 2:00:12Speaker 00

  Nah.

• 2:00:13Speaker 01

  When did you, when did you go to this?

• 2:00:14Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, it's my girl there. That's what I wanted to go to. And y'all was like, oh, we gotta record, we gotta record.

• 2:00:18Speaker 00

  Why didn't you just repost her?

• 2:00:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, why didn't? She didn't post it. And I'm like, oh, this is fire. Yeah, she did.

• 2:00:24Speaker 00

  So you were like, yo, just send me a.

• 2:00:27Mark Gagnon?

  We were texting the whole time and every time we scored, she sent me some shit.

• 2:00:32Speaker 00

  Oh, wow, man.

• 2:00:33Mark Gagnon?

  I am celebrating, right? Y'all just haters because your team's lost. My team won. I like to celebrate.

• 2:00:40Speaker 00

  My team's still in it.

• 2:00:41Mark Gagnon?

  Who's your team?

• 2:00:42Speaker 00

  Spain.

• 2:00:42Mark Gagnon?

  I'm open to some. Oh, okay, there you go.

• 2:00:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, this guy lived in Spain for a long time.

• 2:00:46Mark Gagnon?

  That is true.

• 2:00:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:48Speaker 01

  He lived in Spain for a while.

• 2:00:49Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, rep your set, yeah.

• 2:00:50Speaker 00

  I do rep it.

• 2:00:52Mark Gagnon?

  Where's your colors? You're looking kind of French right now.

• 2:00:55Speaker 01

  It's coming home.

• 2:00:58Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, no, I don't want that.

• 2:00:59Speaker 00

  Do we have anything else we need to hit, my boy?

• 2:01:01Speaker 01

  There was a, a famous incident that happened out in one of the national parks that went super viral.

• 2:01:06Speaker 00

  Oh, I saw this.

• 2:01:07Speaker 01

  I'm not sure of the current state of this dude. Have you, did you see this?

• 2:01:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, I saw it.

• 2:01:11Speaker 01

  I'm not sure, I'm not sure of the state of him right now.

• 2:01:13Speaker 00

  Did he make it?

• 2:01:15Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 2:01:17Speaker 00

  Oh, if he's alive, we're good.

• 2:01:18Speaker 01

  I think he's good.

• 2:01:20Mark Gagnon?

  If he's dead, we good.

• 2:01:22Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 2:01:23Mark Gagnon?

  It's a learning lesson.

• 2:01:24Speaker 01

  No, I would be sad.

• 2:01:24Speaker 00

  No, because it wasn't their fault.

• 2:01:26Mark Gagnon?

  Grandfather recovered from surgery. He came over to fuck with it.

• 2:01:29Speaker 00

  No, he didn't.

• 2:01:30Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no. You gotta watch it, you gotta watch it.

• 2:01:31Mark Gagnon?

  Guys, he's all the way in the background right there. So how did, how is it not his fault?

• 2:01:36Speaker 00

  Look at the buffalo, it's. Buy a fucking picnic. The buffalo shouldn't be there.

• 2:01:40Speaker 01

  This guy is standing right here.

• 2:01:41Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's his picnic?

• 2:01:42Speaker 01

  That's.

• 2:01:43Mark Gagnon?

  He's walking by it. He's not camping.

• 2:01:45Speaker 01

  And he's, he's got suspenders. He's a jolly guy.

• 2:01:47Mark Gagnon?

  So why are you walking towards the buffalo?

• 2:01:48Speaker 00

  He's not. The buffalo chases them and chases them out of the trees. It's like a cartoon.

• 2:01:53Speaker 01

  He's walking away, getting behind a tree for cover because he's like, oh, this is a little sketchy right now.

• 2:01:56Speaker 00

  Watch, watch this. It's a cartoon. Literally, watch. He sees it. This is fucked up, but like.

• 2:02:03Speaker 01

  All of a sudden comes over and goes, oh shit, alright, let's get behind this tree.

• 2:02:06Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I thought it was.

• 2:02:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, watch, watch. So he runs.

• 2:02:10Speaker 01

  And he's hiding. He's hiding.

• 2:02:11Mark Gagnon?

  And.

• 2:02:14Speaker 01

  And he's good, right? Like, there's no way this bison's gonna get him.

• 2:02:18Mark Gagnon?

  See, you didn't ask for permission to take a picture.

• 2:02:20Speaker 00

  He ran, he runs, the bison follows him, he runs, he's trying to run around.

• 2:02:30Speaker 00

  Nah, bro.

• 2:02:31Speaker 01

  But he's doing alright. He's doing alright, right, Miles?

• 2:02:33Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, he's in recovery.

• 2:02:34Speaker 01

  He's on recovery.

• 2:02:35Mark Gagnon?

  This is like, you know, Running with the Bulls in Spain. American version. We do bison though, man.

• 2:02:42Speaker 00

  Are you gonna do that Running the Bull shit?

• 2:02:43Speaker 01

  No, he's just gonna post some video from the inside.

• 2:02:48Speaker 00

  They didn't stop it.

• 2:02:50Mark Gagnon?

  I think they did, or maybe the, I don't know. I think they stopped, or they stopped the, uh.

• 2:02:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, maybe they stopped killing them.

• 2:02:55Mark Gagnon?

  They're killing them, yeah, yeah.

• 2:02:57Speaker 00

  But the Running the Bulls is lit.

• 2:02:59Mark Gagnon?

  I would love to do that.

• 2:02:59Speaker 00

  I went to it.

• 2:03:00Mark Gagnon?

  You did?

• 2:03:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:01Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, but you didn't get in?

• 2:03:02Speaker 00

  Nah, I was too tired. You party all night and then in the morning.

• 2:03:07Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 2:03:08Speaker 00

  They, they run and you're like, I was partying all night. And like.

• 2:03:13Mark Gagnon?

  Were you there for the summer solstice when they do like some big celebration in the streets?

• 2:03:17Speaker 00

  I don't remember.

• 2:03:18Mark Gagnon?

  Bro.

• 2:03:18Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 2:03:19Mark Gagnon?

  It was crazy. Like, they have bonfires in the middle of streets everywhere. People are, fireworks everywhere. Every other block is like a fucking concert going on.

• 2:03:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:30Mark Gagnon?

  But it's like, the fact that a calm city allows giant bonfires in the middle of the street.

• 2:03:36Speaker 00

  Crazy.

• 2:03:36Mark Gagnon?

  It was madness. It looked like a war zone.

• 2:03:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:39Mark Gagnon?

  And everybody's just like, huh huh.

• 2:03:41Speaker 01

  This is the last video I want to show you guys. This one popped back up. I sent this to you a while ago. It's maybe the funniest video.

• 2:03:47Mark Gagnon?

  I think we watched this, yeah.

• 2:03:47Speaker 01

  Did we already watch it?

• 2:03:48Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I think so.

• 2:03:49Speaker 00

  Hold on, play it.

• 2:03:53Speaker 00

  Oh, come on, bro.

• 2:03:56Speaker 00

  There's no way. There's no way. There's no way.

• 2:04:01Speaker 01

  So he's trying to jump the fence. He got it though. He good, he got it. Oh, he's got his pants caught on a little bit.

• 2:04:13Speaker 01

  Alright, so he's struggling a little bit. He should be able to get it.

• 2:04:16Speaker 00

  He's running out of energy, right?

• 2:04:17Speaker 01

  He's pretty high up too, and he's doing a dip. This is kinda hard.

• 2:04:22Speaker 00

  His pants.

• 2:04:25Speaker 01

  That's tough.

• 2:04:26Speaker 00

  There's no way.

• 2:04:30Speaker 00

  There's no way.

• 2:04:35Speaker 00

  There's no way.

• 2:04:49Speaker 00

  There's no way.

• 2:04:53Mark Gagnon?

  What happened?

• 2:04:55Speaker 01

  No, no. No one knows.

• 2:04:57Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 2:04:58Speaker 01

  And shout out to his boy for never stepping in the help.

• 2:05:01Speaker 00

  Fuck that.

• 2:05:02Speaker 01

  I mean, all time. Great video. I mean, at a certain point, like, I don't know when you ditch the pants. Like, right here, you're like, oh, I can save it. There, you go, alright, my pants are fully coming off. And then here is worst-case scenario. I mean, just dangling upside down. Oh, God bless this man. Oh, man.

• 2:05:22Mark Gagnon?

  Internet's great.

• 2:05:23Speaker 00

  Boys, we love you. We appreciate you. We'll see you next week. Peace.

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