Malcolm Butler undrafted underdog to creating Disney magic in Super Bowl, how one game changed his life, playing for Bill Belichick, emotions sitting out vs Eagles in SBLII loss, Patriots dynasty, NFL regret, coaching high school football and fatherhood

“You gotta always believe. When you get knocked down off your feet, there’s just something that lights your fire and makes you keep getting up and fighting, just to keep going because you have a purpose.” Malcolm Butler 2x Super Bowl Champion In this special episode of The Pivot Podcast live from Disney's Animal Kingdom, Malcolm Butler joins Ryan, Channing, and Fred for a deeply personal and behind-the-scenes story leading up to one of the most iconic moments in NFL history. Butler relives his “magical” Super Bowl XLIX interception vs Russell Wilson—the split-second decision that changed his life, secured the Patriots’ championship, and delivered him sports' famous words- "Im going to Disney World." Malcolm opens up about what it was like to go from undrafted rookie to national hero overnight, from working at Popeyes to signing with the Patriots to playing for Bill Belichick, He shares the mindset he developed on and off the field and explains how one can never truly being prepared for a singular moment but can always being ready to compete. He reveals life lessons from Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Gronk and Danny Amendola that helped shape the man he is today. Although his storied NFL career started magical and yielded him two Super Bowl rings, Malcolm shares the hard times and reveals the emotions behind sitting out vs the Patriots loss to Eagles in SBLII and how the pain truly affected him. From the locker room interactions to the surreal whirlwind of fame, Malcolm shares powerful insights on trust, readiness, and believing in yourself when the world doubts you. Now in his post NFL life, Malcolm is passing on his experiences sharing that coaching high school football and being a father prove to be the most rewarding aspect of his life. Authentic, inspiring, and full of raw reflection—this conversation shows a side of Malcolm Butler you’ve never heard before. Tap in as The Pivot takes you right into the heart of the magic that makes us all believe anything worth having and working for is possible. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button. Special thank you to our partners and friends at Disney World, Check out special offers and more information about visiting Walt Disney World here: http://di.sn/60037CGsf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  Every game day, you show up for your team. Now, it's your time.

• 0:05Speaker 01

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• 0:30Ryan Clark?

  Malcolm Butler's name is etched in Super Bowl history. His last second interception of Russell Wilson added another Lombardi to the Patriots' already stacked trophy case, but his story's no Disney movie. He was rushed on a private jet, though, the day after the Super Bowl win, and straight to Disneyland with teammate Julian Edelman. So it's fitting that we sit with Butler in front of the Tree of Life at Disney's Animal Kingdom. He almost derailed himself from becoming the Malcolm Butler that we know. He didn't have grades for school and even went back to work at Popeyes after a slip-up at Juco, but he vowed to get it right. He ended up being an undrafted free agent of Bill Belichick's New England Patriots. He worked his way to being a starter, and eventually, he became a No. 1 corner. So he takes us back to how he earned his nickname, being benched in the Super Bowl,

• 1:15Ryan Clark?

  and the troubles of being the one who made it. He's a high school coach now, he's a father, and he's a mentor to those who needed one just as much as he did. Everything's sort of come full circle. I mean, based on where we are, you can say it's the circle of life. It's an absolute honor to have Super Bowl XLIX hero Malcolm Butler join me, Chan, and Freddie T. And we're at Disney, so it's a reunion of sorts. But what it is, it's a Super Friday edition of The Pivot, and it's starting now.

• 1:46Ryan Clark?

  Hey, man. There's magical, and then there's Disney. Right. We're at Animal Kingdom. Honestly, it's my favorite park in all of the Disney parks. Love staying at the hotel. I've been a part of, you know, the Disney family now. I kind of feel working here for 12 years. You know, people ask me when I come here, where do I make magic? And I'm like, well, I don't make no cool magic, but I do work for ESPN. Uh, but to have an opportunity to do a show, partner with Disney, man, I think it's just the coolest thing. And I actually thought I'd one day get to come here and have a Super Bowl parade. I never played that good in one of them, so I didn't. But what are some of the memories, man, you have of Disney and your family? Oh, and by the way, bro, happy birthday.

• 2:27Channing Crowder?

  Man, I appreciate it.

• 2:28Ryan Clark?

  What better place to spend a birthday?

• 2:30Channing Crowder?

  42nd birthday, I'm at Disney with two other grown men. I don't know if that was the way I saw my 42nd kid. But man, it's crazy to be here on 42nd birthday and remember as a kid coming to Disney.

• 2:42Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 2:42Channing Crowder?

  Remember, uh, in college, it was different Disney in college because I was running around differently. But no, I'm just saying as a child in college and now having kids, bringing Chan when he was a baby, now he's a teenager. Now I'm bringing Chaz, we're coming back in a couple of weeks because now I've been on some of these new rides.

• 2:59Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 3:00Channing Crowder?

  And I need to experience them with my babies, just like I let them experience Space Mountain with me when I rode it before. So, man, just the nostalgia of being here, turning some corners and looking around. I remember that wall. I remember this ride. I remember that. It's cool that you can experience Disney from generation to generation to generation, like I've been blessed to do. And now sitting around with two grown men is different.

• 3:25Fred Taylor?

  Nah, you said it, Chan, the nostalgia and the experience. I finally got the full Disney experience. Mine is my family. I'm here with my two homies. But you guys allowed me to, to do something that I've never done before, really hop on those rides. So I got the full experience, man. You know how we say it's never too late to pivot?

• 3:46Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 3:46Fred Taylor?

  Truly believe that, man, because I was able to pivot and overcome some fears. I smiled a lot and I played around, but hopping on Tron, hopping on, uh, the Tower of Terror, I had done that, but I didn't realize how much my stomach would be in my stomach. Right, but that reminded me, man, but to be able to do that, but to, to have the amount of fun that I had with you guys, man, it's, it's a great feeling and I can't wait. To bring my family back and do it again with them.

• 4:15Ryan Clark?

  I have a question.

• 4:15Fred Taylor?

  That's the best part.

• 4:16Ryan Clark?

  I know, I mean, I know we're at Disney and everything's supposed to be magical.

• 4:19Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 4:19Ryan Clark?

  Are you also going to tell our friends and our viewers and our subscribers that you decided to not do Guardians of the Galaxy because you were scared?

• 4:28Fred Taylor?

  I wasn't scared. So that wasn't as magical as I would have, a moment that I wanted. You know, there is a thing that exists called nausea. I was a little nauseous.

• 4:38Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 4:39Fred Taylor?

  So it wasn't, it wasn't a fear. Cause the magic brings out the best in you, right? So I would have overcome that, but you know, next time.

• 4:47Ryan Clark?

  Next time.

• 4:47Fred Taylor?

  I got you next time.

• 4:48Ryan Clark?

  You hiding was magical?

• 4:50Fred Taylor?

  I was not hiding. You guys are just jealous because I got the cool Mickey jersey.

• 4:55Ryan Clark?

  You can't get sick on Haunted Mansion. It's Haunted Mansion. It's the slowest ride at Disney. It's cool, it's fun.

• 5:02Fred Taylor?

  We've already had this conversation.

• 5:04Ryan Clark?

  The thing about it for me is I remember it was, what, 2005? It was like the first time I could actually bring my entire family, my, you know, my kids and Yonk. And from that point on, bro, we've probably been here 30 more times. We've had opportunities to send family members here for birthdays and for significant events, you know? And so for me, when we bought into the Disney Vacation Club, it was one of those things you say to yourself like, now how many times am I really gonna use it? And we've used it and we've been able to bless other people. And I think so that's the, the thing for is like Disney was this adult marker for me.

• 5:48Ryan Clark?

  That man, God's blessed me in a way through jobs and through my career that I can now take my family. I can bless other people. You know, Fred, and what are some of the memories, you know, you have as well?

• 6:01Fred Taylor?

  Man, just walking in front of Magic Kingdom, you know, reminded me of a photo that I had in my phone. I was able to look at the photo and realize the exact date, moment, and really just how much fun it was. You know, so just so many memories in that particular moment. So I gotta get them back. I want to recreate that photo. I think that'll be even more special.

• 6:21Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, Fred, and talking about moving forward with it, man, I just, it's wild because I'm walking past the slinky dog.

• 6:27Channing Crowder?

  And I know you ain't gonna get on it, but I'm trying to get Ryan on it. But to be able to go on a new ride with y'all, because that was the first time I've been on Guardians, which is a wonderful ride. Can we give them the trick? Hey, get on the last car. The back is wild because the things spin while it's going. It's a roller coaster on teacups. It's crazy, man. But to be able to go on it now and know what to do and now bring my kids. So I got on with y'all first. I can bring my wife and kids back and then my grandkids one day. Like, that's when I'm walking around now and I don't know if I'm old because it's my birthday, but I'm thinking down the road where my kids have kids and we can still come to Disney. But as they continue to go, I found out what these numbers mean. Like, the first ride was made in 1971 and we're here in 2025, into 2025.

• 7:11Channing Crowder?

  And as it continue to go and grow in front of the Tree of Life, like, it's wild to know how much history this place has and to be able to be a part of it as long as we have. You go back 05, bro, that's 21 years there now.

• 7:22Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I mean, I think it's super cool and, you know, you got an opportunity to bring Randy. You know, you speaking of, you know, grandparents. I brought my parents here and they, we had all of their grandchildren here when we did it. And I think that's the thing that Disney does more than anything. I mean, it's gonna be some kids crying. It's gonna be some parents a little stressed out. But those pictures like you have in your phone, those moments that you share, there's nothing like those memories and you get to create those through people who truly are here to bring you a magical experience. And a magical experience is winning the Super Bowl. You know, maybe a magical experience is a team drives all the way down the field on you. You got the GOAT on your team as the quarterback.

• 8:05Ryan Clark?

  He's trying to win another Super Bowl and there's a young upstart team with the Legion of Boom on one side. Marshawn Lynch in the backfield. A quarterback that's still playing, you know, with the New York Giants. They throw the ball, they think they got a tug. You pick it off. Go from undrafted free agent to Super Bowl hero in the same year. And because of that, you get to come to Disney as well. Y'all know who it is, we chopping up with him now.

• 8:32Speaker 06

  Oh, oh, okay then. Stop it now, stop it now. Okay then. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. My goodness. You the drip god, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, he had to show RC. He got something over there. Hey, I watch it all the time, man. Saw you on the night, on Monday night. Yes, sir.

• 8:50Ryan Clark?

  Malcolm, I just wanted, so, a lot of this conversation is gonna have to happen here between the Super Bowl winners, because these guys don't really know about that.

• 8:57Speaker 06

  Oh, no.

• 8:58Fred Taylor?

  Did I move?

• 8:58Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, you might need to, you might.

• 9:00Fred Taylor?

  I thought you was gonna cut the room because y'all were both undrafted.

• 9:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, that too.

• 9:03Fred Taylor?

  Super Bowl.

• 9:04Speaker 06

  That too.

• 9:04Fred Taylor?

  Hey, we was rich, we was rich immediately.

• 9:07Speaker 06

  Y'all had to work for it. We had to work for it, man. Had to work for it.

• 9:10Ryan Clark?

  Man, Malcolm Butler, man, welcome to the show. Channing Crowder, Fred Taylor, I'm Ryan Clark. Pivot fam, thank y'all for pivoting with us. I was, I was laughing, man, because, you know, before the Super Bowl, when they make you sign that little release form about Disney World, like if you become a guy that makes a play, you can go to the parade. I was like, everybody believes that they gonna be that dude. I thought I was gonna be Malcolm. I was like, she was gonna be late in the game, they gonna throw the ball, I'm gonna make the play. Uh, talk about that week, because there's stories that you guys were going over that play, and you were kinda getting chewed out for not playing it right.

• 9:46Speaker 06

  Well, basically, I was making plays the whole year. You know, never been on the, on the practice squad, you know I'm, I'm drafted, so it's hard to stay there. You got Darrelle Reeves, Brandon Browner, Logan Ryan, Kyle Erickson. I'm like the 6'7" corner on the team. So, for them to put me in that game, I had to have been working the whole, the whole season to keep my spot, because NFL is a vision, man. You gotta, you gotta produce at all times. So, we was at practice, I think Brandon Browner or, uh, Darrelle Reeves got out at practice, and they ran a little stack route, and I just, I just made the play, man. And just, just preparation and before the game, my coach was like, "Ay, you better practice hard, because you, you might put your little school, West Alabama, on the map."

• 10:30Speaker 06

  And that's, and, and that's what I did. And then, speaking about signing the Disney thing, my agent called me, said, "Malcolm, you need to fill this out." I said, "Why? I ain't gonna play." Life crazy, man.

• 10:41Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, so really, so when they, when they sent you, when they gave you the form, you told your agent, like, I don't really need to sign this because I'm not gonna get no burn.

• 10:49Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 10:50Channing Crowder?

  And you got out there and was able to make that, that sort of play?

• 10:53Speaker 06

  Yes, sir. True story, true story.

• 10:55Channing Crowder?

  With, with you, though, like, that wasn't the first time you were kinda counted out, though, Malcolm. Like, you talking about not playing, like, your story is that, not even just for being undrafted. Bruh, you left Hines and worked at Popeyes?

• 11:08Speaker 06

  So, I was working at Popeyes while I was playing my senior year.

• 11:12Channing Crowder?

  Oh, wow.

• 11:13Speaker 06

  And then I went to Hines Community College, um, kinda hit a brick wall. Had the star back over, so I went back to Popeyes while attending Alcorn State University.

• 11:24Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 11:24Speaker 06

  I was working and trying to get my grades right and stuff like that, so.

• 11:27Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 11:28Speaker 06

  Hines, they invited me back, and then I went and handled that business and went, went to, uh, West Alabama, man.

• 11:34Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, so, man, it's almost stay ready, you ain't gotta get ready.

• 11:37Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, 100%.

• 11:38Channing Crowder?

  Because you at Popeyes, you in a community college, you undrafted, then even going into that, that, that Super Bowl, it wasn't like you went in the play that you made everybody knows about. You made about four tackles before that. You hit Big Sean for a two-yard gain.

• 11:55Speaker 06

  Yes, sir.

• 11:56Channing Crowder?

  You just told your agent, "I'm not even gonna get in the game." When they threw you in, bruh, and we know, we, we know the Butler swag.

• 12:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 12:03Channing Crowder?

  We know you got, bruh, it was no, no nerves, you walking into the Super Bowl in the fourth quarter, knowing that they, and they, they, I would say they thought they saw a duck, cuz they went at you 100 times, and you kept making plays.

• 12:15Speaker 06

  So, like, going against Julian Edelman, Gronk, Amadou, and all those guys, when I'm on the look team and have to compete very hard, so it make it second nature to just go out there and just do it anyway. But, like, those my opportunity to shine, and, like, Coach said, "We gotta come back, we playing all man," so I ain't had nothing else to do but play man.

• 12:40Channing Crowder?

  So, hey, it's me, eh, 10 on 10.

• 12:43Speaker 06

  Yeah, let's get it.

• 12:44Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 12:44Fred Taylor?

  Well, a lot of people know the story, the Super Bowl, and how great that came about. But before that, as RC was alluding to, just talk about the perseverance in your, in your journey, man, that eventually got you here, got you to that moment that was probably the most magical moment in Super Bowl history.

• 13:04Speaker 06

  Well, first of all, I say you gotta always believe, man. Like, once you get knocked down off your feet, bro, it's just something that lights your fire to make you keep getting up and fighting and just keep doing it because you got a purpose. And when you know you're good at something, you better execute it because, like, opportunities will pass you by. So, that's the mindset I had. And like, like I said, when I went to Heinz Community College, I hit a little brick wall, and I was in the drive-thru. I had to go back and work at Popeyes. Uh, God said, "Man, I thought you was gonna make it, man." Like, I think, he said it like, "I'm glad you ain't make it." That's how I felt about it. So, I use that as, you know, ambition and attitude and drive. And then I also had it in myself. So, you just gotta keep working hard and believing, man.

• 13:49Speaker 06

  That, that's all I did, man. Like, when I had to train and work out and stuff, I didn't have to go to a gym. I used what I got to get right.

• 13:59Channing Crowder?

  We sitting here at Animal Kingdom at Disney.

• 14:02Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 14:02Channing Crowder?

  Because of the fact that you got a chance to come here after the Super Bowl. Like you said, I would have been the same way in the Super Bowl. Hey, bro, sign this.

• 14:10Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 14:10Channing Crowder?

  For what? They ain't inviting me to Disney?

• 14:12Speaker 06

  For real? Especially, yeah.

• 14:14Channing Crowder?

  How was that? How was it getting in the game, then playing? And then now, a couple days later, being, being at Disney, all that stuff where the anticipation, you just said it. You didn't think you were gonna have to sign that paper?

• 14:24Speaker 06

  I was just living, man, and playing football and, and being thankful that I was at the Super Bowl. But I was, I was ready to play. When I got in, I was like, it was just a game to me. But after I made that play, man, I was running from the news report. I'm like, oh, I ain't ready yet. Everything happened so fast. We going to Disneyland and all that stuff. It just happened so fast, man. And my life changed instantly. It changed instantly, man. You know how it go. New cousins, new people, new everybody. You know, everybody watching you. Got to do media, all on the news and stuff like that. It just changed for me so fast, man. But I earned it.

• 15:02Ryan Clark?

  How was that change, though, Malcolm? I think so many times, people think about how great it'll be to be known, how great it'll be to be thought of as a good football player. And it is, man. It's such a blessing. But where we come from, when you make it, everybody feels like they made it too. Right? And like you said, there are new cousins, right? And there's new homeboys who act like they sold into your life. How difficult was that adjustment to go from a dude that I'm just grinding by myself, trying to make it, to now being in the spotlight?

• 15:34Speaker 06

  First of all, I grinded by myself anyway, because I have to do it. I had to put that work in. And, you know, you gonna get a little battle tested, like when you got a couple of daughters and your family and stuff depending on you and stuff. And like, once I had stuff to give, you give it to them. But it's come a point in your life where you just like, no, I can't keep doing this over and over, because I ain't gonna have nothing. And if I fall off, who gonna feed my family? Or how I'm gonna feed my relatives and stuff like that? So, just growing up, being financially smart and grounded and staying humble, man.

• 16:11Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I love that.

• 16:12Channing Crowder?

  I think a lot of guys go through this. And you talking about how fast you got famous? When the fame and the money don't match. When you won the Super Bowl, but you still ain't... Everybody think you had Revis money because you were as famous as him. How hard was that for everybody to know your face? You immediately rich? You immediately rich in their mind? But you really ain't rich.

• 16:32Speaker 06

  Well, I felt like I was rich when I first got my NFL check, to be honest. I was talking to Julian Elderman. I probably had like $5,000 in my pocket, you know. Look, saving my pensions from training camp and all that stuff. And he was like, "Your first check probably ain't gonna be that much. Probably be like, like $12,000." I said, "What? $12,000? I made it already." I came from nothing, so like, that's a blessing to me. He was like, "I was getting that Popeye's check." Yeah, but before I made that play, man, like, I used to save at least 90% of my checks. 90% my rookie year.

• 17:11Fred Taylor?

  But you were an undrafted free agent, right?

• 17:15Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 17:15Fred Taylor?

  And New England was the team that everybody wanted to be on that team because of how great they were doing. But also, not everybody wanted to be in that team that would have been in your position because of the amount of starters and, you know, the obstacles you probably would have had to go through in order to get playing time. But you chose New England, right? Take us back to like that moment when you found out that you were gonna sign with New England? And also, just being that low on the depth chart and not quitting, not giving up, that got you to this point?

• 17:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, in 2014, you know, I'm watching the draft. I know I'm not gonna get picked. You know, I know, I know I'm not gonna get picked. I probably watched the draft on the last day. Right. So that's when all the free agent calls come and stuff. So I see this 508 number call. He was like, "Hey, Malcolm, have anybody called you? This New England Patriots, have anyone called you yet?" I was like, "Nah." He said, "If someone called, call us back." I said, "I'm gonna call on my own, say somebody called." And that's what I did.

• 18:22Speaker 06

  And then they say, "We gonna fly you up here soon and get ready to try out." So I get up there, it's 40 people. It's 40 people and they only pick two. It was me and I think, uh, Flemings. I forgot his name, it's linebacker. But, uh, yeah, and then being on the depth chart with all those guys just had to show up each and every day. I was talking to Darrell Rivas the other day. He was like, man, you got it, you got it, you got it. That's a, that's a, that's a all pro Hall of Fame cornerback telling a rookie that I got, I got skill and I can play. He said, I just gotta learn to melt the game. But you know, I always was confident and I knew those guys supported me, but I had to support myself. You know what I mean? I, I was coming in to win it, man.

• 19:03Speaker 06

  I, I, and I told the newspaper, Bixburg Post, when I come home, I'm coming to visit. And that's what I did.

• 19:10Ryan Clark?

  You know, it's one thing for Darrell Rivas, who's a Hall of Famer, to tell you that you got it. It's another thing to know it for yourself. What was the moment in New England where you said, you know what? I got a chance to be special here and in the NFL.

• 19:27Speaker 06

  When I knew I was special and I had a chance there, I just thought that I earned a nickname.

• 19:33Ryan Clark?

  What was the nickname?

• 19:34Speaker 06

  Scrap. Scrap. I earned a nickname. You know, I was country boy, genuine, nice to everybody, kinda quiet. Bill Belichick used to always, he used to always pick on me. I'm like, man, I can't do nothing right. So they, you know, when they say it, a coach ain't saying nothing to you.

• 19:51Ryan Clark?

  That's when you worry.

• 19:51Speaker 06

  You might need to be worried about something. Man, I remember one day, when the last day of preseason, uh, Belichick came up to me and was like, uh, Malcolm, you got somewhere to stay? I said, I hit one, I hit, I hit him with one. I said, I don't know if I made the team. So that let me know I made the team, that's where I belong.

• 20:11Ryan Clark?

  How, how'd he say it again? What'd he say to you?

• 20:13Speaker 06

  Malcolm, do you got somewhere to stay?

• 20:17Fred Taylor?

  That he also used to tell you guys, you rookies, don't say nothing. You don't know.

• 20:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yes, indeed, yes, indeed.

• 20:25Ryan Clark?

  I got a chance to work with Bill for a year. And man, in that year, I learned so much about football, so much about strategy, life. When you were with the Patriots, that was still in the dynasty days, right? In the heyday of the Patriots. What are some of the lessons you took from the way that Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, and all those stars went about their business?

• 20:46Speaker 06

  Um, it takes a team. It takes a team and everybody gotta be committed to the same thing and be on the same page, nobody bigger than nobody. And it's just discipline, on the field, off the field, things like that, man. I remember it was, I think it was Memorial Day or Veterans Day, and then he asked somebody, "What is Memorial Day?" And I guess one guy said, "Hey, when you barbecue and kick it with your family," and he ripped him. He said, "It's not about that, man. It's about serving your country."

• 21:15Ryan Clark?

  Right.

• 21:15Speaker 06

  Things like that, yep. So he teach you a lot of things on the field, off the field, besides football, too.

• 21:20Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I love it.

• 21:20Channing Crowder?

  You talking about like just being a country boy and then, your path, community college, and then they say, kicked out, I read kicked out.

• 21:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 21:28Channing Crowder?

  But you said it was grades, you had to go to Alcorn and back and forth. So it seemed like that Patriot way wouldn't, would be tough for you to adjust to. And everybody talking about that Patriot way, is it really? Because Fred played for it. Fred was up there in New England. He really be, he's like, "It's different. It's a different thing being up there." Is it really that much of a thing? Because we, we didn't want to get in trouble. We worked hard, we worked out, we were on time. Is there something about the Patriot way that's different than other football teams? Because you went to Tennessee after that, you been on other teams.

• 21:57Speaker 06

  I, I just think that the, the expectation was just high around the building. Um, I didn't think that it was that difficult. I, I think it was just all rumors.

• 22:08Channing Crowder?

  Hmm.

• 22:09Speaker 06

  I think it was all rumors. Like, what coach, what organization don't want you? Everybody be locked in and be on one page and be successful.

• 22:17Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 22:18Speaker 06

  And everybody else be, be successful. But it's, it's kind of tough to play there now. Don't get it twisted. But like, that's how you win championships.

• 22:25Ryan Clark?

  No doubt. I love that Shannon mentioned the fact that you played somewhere else because you're so synonymous with that play and, and with that team. People often forget the three years in Tennessee. But even before going to Tennessee, like, I remember, so my first deal... After being a free agent and but to tell y'all why I was saving money the way I was. I got a four-year deal for 7 million in Pittsburgh because they said something was wrong with my knee. Right, so they was like, we're gonna take you, but you gotta go have surgery. And I was like, but to me, like I was, I felt like, you know, I was like, I'm rich. I was like, I actually got a signing bonus? I was like, who just gives me free money when I don't have to play?

• 23:07Ryan Clark?

  But for you, now all of a sudden, it's a five-year deal, 61 million, 24 guaranteed. And when you come from being an undrafted free agent, I was like you, dawg. I remember my first conversation with a financial advisor. I was like, bro, I wanna make some money. I was like, but I don't wanna lose nothing.

• 23:22Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 23:23Ryan Clark?

  Where I was like, I worked too hard to get this. Once you got to that point, what did that change in your life when you were able to sign that deal? Whether good or bad?

• 23:33Speaker 06

  Well, I'll tell you what.

• 23:37Speaker 06

  Like I said, man, I've been saving my money from the gate. You know what I mean? Because they say the NFL don't last for long. And I seen what is called NFL Broke.

• 23:46Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 23:47Speaker 06

  Yep, when I was younger, so that grew me up and put me on game a lot, too. But it changed a lot, you know? People asking you for money, um, that's, that's, that's normal. But the expectation of your performance, not matching the contract, you gotta deal with that. It was, you just gotta be balanced and just keep fighting like you've been doing the whole time.

• 24:11Ryan Clark?

  When you, when you get that money, though, Malcolm, they wanna see number one corner skills.

• 24:16Speaker 06

  100%.

• 24:16Ryan Clark?

  They, they, they not saying, hey, we gonna draw, we gonna make, put the defense together. And Malcolm, you could just be a part of it. It's like, no, we're gonna build defenses around the fact that we expect you to be able to erase this dude. Not just because of what the film say, but because of what this money says now. What was that expectation? Like, one, it's expectation you earn.

• 24:37Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 24:37Ryan Clark?

  Right, you have to play well to earn it. But then now when we go out there every Sunday, we putting you on this corner by yourself and we wanna see it.

• 24:45Speaker 06

  That's what I like doing. But you know, things don't work out all the time the way you want them to. But it, it, sometimes it depends on the scheme that you go to also. Like, sometimes you can get a good contract and go to a team that scheme don't fit you. There's no excuse. You took that contract, there's no excuse. But you know, life has ups and downs and... You just, man, it's business. You just gotta handle business. That's it, point blank period, no matter what.

• 25:11Fred Taylor?

  With all those things, man, the expectations, the pressures that come along with what you did, right? Just looking back at it all, how has that shaped you into the man you are today?

• 25:24Speaker 06

  Oh, man, it took me around, bro. It took me around. Grew me up as a father. Just made me look at life different, you know? Being in the limelight and, you know, being dragged on social media, getting praised, all that stuff. So like, it feel good to be out of it a little bit, out of the game, being out of the fame in football and stuff like that. But it also learned me too.

• 25:51Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, like we're in the most magical place in the world. You know, we're in animal kingdom. We in front of the tree of life, you know? And I think about, you mentioned being a father and family. Like this is a place for family. For you, to go through what you went through to become who you were, how inspired are you though to lead your family in that way? And give your kids and your loved ones some of the leg ups or some of the opportunities that you had to create for yourself?

• 26:24Speaker 06

  Well, I would be here long enough for them to see and understand how hard they father worked to get where he at. So that's the blueprint right there. Them knowing that their father went out here and earned everything that he got. And I'm gonna make sure that they earn everything that they want to. I just can't give it to you. Ain't nobody gonna give you nothing. So if I can lead and do that and they can see what I did, they should be okay. But being a father, man, is a great thing, especially if you're a good one. You know, it's not easy, but it's a good thing when you're doing right by your kids and taking care of your kids and doing what you're supposed to do in life. And it's just rewarding, man.

• 27:05Channing Crowder?

  Do you tell them? Because I struggle with this, brother. Like tell them, like, I'm bringing the family back to Disney. We gonna do the whole, all the parts. And we doing Epcot. They ain't been on Guardians of the Galaxy yet. So I'm doing it in a couple of weeks. But as they on Guardians of the Galaxy, I want to leave and be like, daddy worked hard to get you on this ride.

• 27:24Ryan Clark?

  Do you remind the kids that hey, we this ain't free now. We had to, we, you know, daddy had to work to bring you to this.

• 27:31Speaker 06

  They don't know that just yet now. They don't know that yet, but, uh, man, they'll figure it out once they get a little older and know that, man.

• 27:39Ryan Clark?

  My, my, my kids are older now, and you know, as your kids get older, and they start to earn their own little money, they realize how expensive things are. My son, he with the Jets now, and he'll be talking about different things, and he be like, nah dad, I, I can't get that. Uh, my financial advisor said, I gotta put this away. I say, oh, you can't get it now. You were sure asking for it four years ago. You know, you do, you wanted all the backpacks, now you shopping on Amazon for glasses. You know what I mean? And so like you see, you see everything. When does this happen? When they get a little older. They gotta get a little older. My 14 year old, he just told me something's just $200. I said, just $200?

• 28:19Speaker 06

  One item. One item.

• 28:21Ryan Clark?

  A fishing reel, just $200. My, my daughter, my youngest told me, but daddy, isn't this what you wanted for me? Isn't that, isn't? He's playing the psychological game. Isn't that why you work so hard? You know, and she turned around my words I used on her. I'm like, well, you know, Logan, I'm not gonna be here every day if I'm gonna work like this. If you gonna have these things, didn't you say that's why you're not here every day? She's smart. So, hey, so trust me, man, those girls try to find, you know, a way to work it. Malcolm, man, for, for you, we're talking about all the highs. You know, I know recently you spoke about, hey, we all decided that we weren't really gonna talk about why I didn't play against Philadelphia.

• 29:04Ryan Clark?

  So I don't wanna ask about why, I wanna ask, how difficult was it, knowing what you had done on that stage before, being a Super Bowl champion, to not get to go out there and help your team against Philadelphia in that Super Bowl?

• 29:17Speaker 06

  It was, it was, it was tough, man. It was tough, you know, especially the whole world watching, things like that. But this man, um... He put me, he put me in one, he put me in position to win the first Super Bowl, the Super Bowl 49. And that was a coach's decision. And I guess he felt like he did what's best for the team and not played me. So it was a coach's decision. But you know, knowing that I could, could have been in that game and changed the game and things like that, because I, I play in big games, I've done it before. I feel like everybody else, everybody on that roster could have had another ring.

• 29:53Ryan Clark?

  Because I mean, that's a game, Tom has a great game, but they scored 41 points, Malcolm.

• 29:58Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 29:58Ryan Clark?

  I, I watched you play before that. I watched you play after that. At that time in your career, you were one of the best in the world doing what you do. How could you even reconcile that to yourself? That because of a coach's decision, I'm watching Nick Foles and the Philadelphia Eagles score 41 points? And you mean to tell me I can't help at all? How hard was that to convince yourself that that was the right decision?

• 30:27Speaker 06

  I, I didn't, I don't think it was the right decision.

• 30:30Ryan Clark?

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:30Speaker 06

  I just felt like that's what he wanted to do. But it was hard, man. It was tough, bro. Knowing that I could have been in that game and, and, and, and, and got on, got on somebody. It was the last game of the season, man. Last game of the season. I'm ready to show up. I'm ready to show out. I'm ready to pull the hamstring. You know, things die down, man. You know, things die down sometimes. Sometimes people don't see eye to eye and things like that and, but I, I never put my feelings over a, over a championship. Like it's time to go win, man. And I wouldn't be out later, partying or doing anything stupid or jeopardize everybody's livelihood, you know, by getting a ring and, uh, being successful, so.

• 31:16Fred Taylor?

  The double down on that, in that moment, that's going back to your rookie year, you made the, the biggest, one of the biggest plays in your entire career in that sort of type moment. And then on the flip side, the adversity you had to deal with, with not being in position to make the similar play. I'm sure you thought you would have been, right? What life lessons do you take away from that?

• 31:37Speaker 06

  You gonna have your ups, you gonna have your downs. You just gotta keep fighting and stay balanced. Stay in the middle, stay balanced and keep fighting, man. You know, tough times don't last, man. So you just gotta keep rolling. That's it.

• 31:50Channing Crowder?

  Any, any, I'll say any animosity, because you know, I, I need to know.

• 31:55Channing Crowder?

  When Zach Thomas left the Dolphins, they brought Carlos Dansby in. He played third down for a couple of games over me on dime, and I'm still mad at the coaching staff for not putting me on third down. You did it in the Super Bowl, and I still look at Mike Nolan funny.

• 32:09Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 32:10Channing Crowder?

  Man, put me in the game.

• 32:12Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 32:12Channing Crowder?

  Is there any, is there any animosity, anything towards, like you saying, we all believe in you, said you think you could have, I want to say won the Super Bowl, but changed the outcome of that game.

• 32:21Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 32:21Channing Crowder?

  Is it, if, if there anybody out there that you have resentment towards? Or you let all that go, because you had to be upset. You said you was upset.

• 32:27Speaker 06

  I was upset during that moment, man, you know.

• 32:30Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 32:31Speaker 06

  I was, and then, especially with all the rumors and...

• 32:34Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 32:35Channing Crowder?

  We don't know what happened, man. There was a lot of stuff going on.

• 32:37Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, people were talking about you.

• 32:38Speaker 06

  It was just a coach's decision, but like, I was pissed off at the world. I ain't gonna lie. I was pissed off at the world. And it kind of, it kind of damaged me a little bit.

• 32:47Ryan Clark?

  Really?

• 32:47Speaker 06

  You know, my, you know, my, my reputation, my heart, my feelings, my soul, and like that, so, yeah, but I moved on from it, bro.

• 32:55Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 32:55Speaker 06

  Thick skin, man.

• 32:56Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, what, so what have you, because now you're a high school coach.

• 32:59Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 32:59Ryan Clark?

  Right? So you, you know, you make it to the league, you go through all the things you've gone through. And what, you know, what we realize, like, we were talking last night, you're not as old as all we, all of us, right? But when you coaching these high school kids, you got so much experience that they don't have. And I'm sure some of them don't even know what you've gone through, don't know what you've overcome. They don't know about the plays you've made. What sort of high school coach are you though? Are you like that hard-nosed Patriot way coach? Or are you more a players coach where you trying to, hey, look, man, I love you first, and now I want to teach you this game?

• 33:34Speaker 06

  So I think I'm, I'm kind of balanced. I'm kind of balanced. You could, that old school stuff now, it don't work that good nowadays. You know, it's faltering up a little bit, but I'm a players coach. You know, I tell them, look, I'm not your friend on the field. We can get it along, just work hard and make plays. Because like, you gotta do your job, I gotta do mine, or somebody gotta be accountable for it. But, uh, I'm a pretty good coach, man. The players like me, man. I, I be trying to teach them about cut splits and all, and things like that, so... It's, it's something I've been doing for three years, and I like it, man. And it is, it's joyful.

• 34:09Ryan Clark?

  Could you imagine being in high school, and your high school coach is like, hey, look, when they got this cut split, you gotta watch the cross, all right? We gonna play outside leverage. You, I'd have been like, coach, if you don't let me play this cover three...

• 34:20Channing Crowder?

  He my man?

• 34:21Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 34:22Channing Crowder?

  Who my man?

• 34:24Ryan Clark?

  You just start talking to me about Yeah, you just start talking to me about cut splits. Hey, we want you to drift, man. I'd have been like, hey, Coach, look. I'm finna make this tackle. I ain't tripping on, none of that.

• 34:33Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, Coach, I was next man up. You were cornerback one when I coached. We not friends, just get in the game and do your job, son.

• 34:40Fred Taylor?

  I got a question. It's for our two Super Bowl guys.

• 34:43Ryan Clark?

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:45Fred Taylor?

  What do you do with your rings? Like, how often do you wear your rings? I don't ever see him wear his ring.

• 34:50Speaker 06

  I go, I go look at them here and there, but I don't wear mine either.

• 34:54Fred Taylor?

  No?

• 34:54Speaker 06

  I don't wear them, no.

• 34:55Fred Taylor?

  I mean, you go so hard to get there. You would think that this is something that I I'm sure you admire it and all of that. But to wear it, he never wears his rings.

• 35:06Speaker 06

  It's valuable. It's very valuable, man. Yeah.

• 35:10Fred Taylor?

  So what do you do with it? Have you ever shown your team, your high school guys?

• 35:13Speaker 06

  Nah, nah, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't. I just keep it locked up and I wash it off with some toothpaste here and there.

• 35:20Ryan Clark?

  Yeah. I think the thing you realize about the ring is that's not what you played for. Like, you, you love the fact that you get it. It's such a great moment when they present it to you because it's the last time you see all those people. Right? Like, that, that group of men or individuals will never play a game together. Like, I'm being honest.

• 35:46Channing Crowder?

  Nah, you nodding your head because y'all got rings.

• 35:48Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 35:48Channing Crowder?

  The ring ain't important. It's the group of people around when I get my ring. I want a ring.

• 35:53Ryan Clark?

  But I, and I

• 35:54Channing Crowder?

  Let me have yours then. Now you can think about Troy.

• 35:56Ryan Clark?

  No, you can actually, you can actually have it because like, because like, that's the thing. Like, there are people on that Super Bowl 49 team that will forever be grateful to Malcolm Butler. That, that will never, they will never forget that play and they don't need the ring to remind them. Like, I don't need a ring for me every time I see James Harrison on social media to think about the fact that he had a 100-yard interception return. Or whenever I see Santonio to be like, it probably was only nine toes, but it don't matter because he had on cleats. You know, and like, that's, and when you get it, man, like, you look around, there are people who were on my team that year who never played football again. Right?

• 36:40Ryan Clark?

  Like, their last game was that Super Bowl, man. And so like, when you have those moments, bruh, it's like, undrafted dudes too? We wasn't supposed to be there.

• 36:51Speaker 06

  Like, man, I'm forever grateful.

• 36:53Channing Crowder?

  And you talk about the whirlwind.

• 36:56Channing Crowder?

  Get it behind and say, you know what, you didn't come to Disney. After the Super Bowl.

• 37:01Speaker 06

  No.

• 37:01Channing Crowder?

  You could, how, how is that? Like, how, how do you get here? Because nobody know, we just see you riding and smiling down that big, pretty road.

• 37:09Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 37:10Channing Crowder?

  How do you, how do you leave from the Super Bowl? And then what's the, what's the process of getting to Disney?

• 37:14Speaker 06

  So after the game of doing all the interviews and stuff like that. And, you know, you had an after-party and stuff like that.

• 37:25Speaker 06

  So I had to get up, so I had to be up about 5:00 and do media and then ride the jet. Uh, me and Eldon, we had to ride the jet. I can't remember what time, but we had to go. I was just running off whatever I was on. Yeah. And, man, it was just, it's like a blur, it happened so fast, man. We got off the plane, got dressed, uh, got introduced, on the big trail ride. And like, it was just crazy, man, it happened so fast, man. Everything happened so fast.

• 37:53Ryan Clark?

  Do you think you were able to truly take it all in, Malcolm? Because like.

• 37:57Speaker 06

  I couldn't, I, it was a lot, it was a lot. I took it in, but it was a lot, man. I had to calm down for about two months.

• 38:04Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 38:05Speaker 06

  Life changed instantly, man.

• 38:07Ryan Clark?

  Because you gotta think, that's all the same year, though, right? You get a call from the Patriots, they tell you, if you get another call, tell us. You lied to them. And they're like, don't miss. Yeah, you, you lied to them and you go make the best of that. You're on a team with a Hall of Fame corner, other corners that's been to Pro Bowls, and you make the play of the year. That all happens for you in a less than a year span.

• 38:35Ryan Clark?

  How fast did that seem to you? But also, how long of a year was that?

• 38:42Speaker 06

  It happened fast, man, it was, it went so fast. Next thing you know, I was at OTAs. And came back in, I found out Reeves wasn't coming back. Billups came up to me saying, "You the starter, and you gotta stay grounded." Who don't want to throw the ball over the Super Bowl hero head? So, I had to stay hungry and stay grinding. So, everything happened pretty fast, but I think I balanced it pretty well when I kind of say, "Okay, it's time to slow down, it's kind of chill and get back to what I'm doing" before I become a one-hit wonder.

• 39:13Fred Taylor?

  Right, and in those moments, Malcolm, you did some amazing things, right? You have, I think, one of the most magical stories that any of us would like to have. Throughout that process, I want to ask you what we ask all of our guests. Your biggest pivot in life, that's the one moment you can look back on and say, "Because this happened to me or for me, I am who I am today."

• 39:35Speaker 06

  I'll say running into my roadblock at Union College. I'll say that, because the reason I say that is because, I don't mean to mention nobody's name, but my favorite player was Michael Vick. And he got in his trouble the same time I got in my trouble. So, it made me feel like, dang, my favorite player then ran into a roadblock like me. I was laying down in the bed and I got my newspaper. Well, my stepfather brought me the newspaper. I'm like, dang, I'm on the news for getting in trouble. But he showed me who's hot. Malcolm Butler, one interception, three tackles, one pass breakup.

• 40:19Speaker 06

  But I just got kicked out of school yesterday. So, that was my pivot, man. It changed my life and it made me hungry.

• 40:26Ryan Clark?

  Who, during that time, Malcolm, who were the people you could lean on for advice? Because you talked about being the guy that grinded by himself, but nobody makes it alone. Who were the people that you could sort of trust in that moment? To be like, "Hey, look, I'm going through some things," but they were like, "Hey, man, you could make it."

• 40:49Speaker 06

  I most definitely say my mom, because she always been there. But just like, bunch of y'all know it, coaches. Be a lot of coaches stepping up for young men. But anybody that was positive, that made me believe and thought that I can make it. I'll just say everybody, man. I just can't name one person.

• 41:10Ryan Clark?

  Did anybody come to Popeyes and tell you that you can make it? Or anybody come to?

• 41:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, a lot of people. I remember my old high school coach coming back through there. Alonso Stevens, he was like, you gotta get back out there, man. You gotta get back out there. So.

• 41:25Ryan Clark?

  They knew.

• 41:26Speaker 06

  They knew. They knew. I knew it too. I knew it too. Like my junior college coach, his name Kevin Lewis. He played for the San Francisco 49ers. And I was at Juco with him. I asked him, hey, am I better than you? He said, hell, yeah.

• 41:45Ryan Clark?

  Wow.

• 41:46Speaker 06

  So that gave me confidence and it I totally be them coaches that keep you going and stuff like that. So he actually told me, yes, and I appreciate that honesty and he won a lot.

• 41:56Ryan Clark?

  That's a but that's a good moment though, man. And too, it says it says a lot about him to be able to in that moment be like, no, you are. And because you need someone that's gonna sow that positivity in you, especially when you've been down. When, like you said, like when you've gone through what you've gone through, to have somebody who's been to the highest of the highest, acknowledge you in that way, man, that says a lot about him. What I want to ask is, looking back at your career, how proud of yourself are you of what you've accomplished and what you've been able to accomplish? And how much do you feel like you left out there that was to gain for yourself?

• 42:36Speaker 06

  I feel pretty good about my career. I feel pretty good about my career. Got paid, won rings, was productive. Some of the things that I missed, I missed out on, I tell you this, I was, I was somewhere and I seen Michael Irvin.

• 42:56Speaker 06

  He was like, "What's up, young man? Look, you know, keep going." And he was like, "Do more. I sure wish I could did more." And that's the only thing I wish I could have done. More. But that's why you gotta take advantage of the opportunity while you there. Live life forward, understand it backwards, but we gotta keep rolling.

• 43:15Channing Crowder?

  What you mean, more what? Like, more life, more grinding, more what?

• 43:20Speaker 06

  More grinding, more working out, uh, catching the ball. You left interceptions on the field. You probably left some money out there, too. You definitely leave a lot out there, but that's why you gotta take advantage of your opportunities when they present themselves.

• 43:32Fred Taylor?

  So, your opportunity to take advantage of being the best dressed, undrafted, Super Bowl champion on this set today, you jumped right into it.

• 43:41Ryan Clark?

  I'm gonna be honest, I didn't like it. I'm gonna be honest, when he walked up-

• 43:44Fred Taylor?

  You had the one up-

• 43:45Ryan Clark?

  I'll be honest-

• 43:46Speaker 06

  That'd be you, man.

• 43:47Ryan Clark?

  Hey, I'm gonna be honest, when he walked up, I was mad. Like, I was hating a little bit. I was like, "Man, he came out here in his green with the turtleneck." Now, do I love my Emperor's New Groove jacket I have? Absolutely. Did he outdress me? Yes. And I don't like that you said, "The best dressed, undrafted, Super Bowl champion."

• 44:06Fred Taylor?

  On this set?

• 44:06Ryan Clark?

  No, include us all. He'll outdress y'all, too.

• 44:09Fred Taylor?

  He did, he did.

• 44:10Ryan Clark?

  Don't just put it on me.

• 44:11Fred Taylor?

  I was looking at this Emperor-

• 44:12Speaker 06

  He had a chinchilla on Monday, then.

• 44:14Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, he did, he did.

• 44:17Speaker 06

  It was alive.

• 44:20Fred Taylor?

  It was Foxborough.

• 44:22Speaker 06

  Neck brace, man.

• 44:25Fred Taylor?

  It was a fox. They were in Foxborough, so it was a fox.

• 44:29Ryan Clark?

  But, man, now, we appreciate you, man. Appreciate your honesty, being able to come here and chop it up with us. I mean, when we were given an opportunity to be here, I was like, "Man, I would love a chance to talk to Malcolm Butler, somebody who came from a place that I came from, and reached the highest of highs in the biggest moments, man." We just wish you the best moving forward. We thank you, too, fam.

• 44:50Speaker 06

  Yep, appreciate y'all for having me, man.

• 44:51Ryan Clark?

  My man, no doubt.

• 44:52Speaker 06

  He had to say that, though.

• 44:55Ryan Clark?

  The cold on Monday night was cold.

• 44:58Speaker 06

  That boy had a whole-

• 44:59Channing Crowder?

  He came out, came out all of it.

• 45:01Ryan Clark?

  Malcolm, you know how it get in New England when that wind start blowing, boy?

• 45:04Channing Crowder?

  That shit real, man. It was cold that night.

• 45:08Ryan Clark?

  Hey, when the sun's up, it's cold, but it's not as bad. When that sun went down, that wind started blowing, bro? It changed my life.

• 45:15Channing Crowder?

  That turf be ice sometimes.

• 45:16Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, it changed my life.

• 45:17Fred Taylor?

  I didn't even see this on the sheet that they sent. This, like, right up your alley right here.

• 45:22Ryan Clark?

  You just did a pro day, Malcolm?

• 45:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, he was number three people. Who, who, who coached you? That down to that. Nah, I did my pro there at Alabama. Oh, okay, that's smart. I went to Alabama. Smart. Yeah, and that's crazy how Bill and Pete Carr was there. Okay. Both of them. Got you. Put me on the radar. I know, I already know.

• 46:11Speaker 00

  Every game day, you show up for your team. Now it's your time.

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