Episode 359 - Haunted Read House Hotel & Overnight Stay with Meredith Stedman

This is a very special Anti-Valentine’s Day episode. Sabrina, joined by Meredith from the Rattled & Shook podcast, spent the night inside the infamous Room 311 at the Read House Hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Built on land marked by tragedy and violence, the Read House is known for its glamorous historic guests—and its long, unsettling history of paranormal activity. We dive into the hotel’s past, the brutal murder tied to Room 311, and the lingering spirit said to remain there. Meredith and Sabrina share their eerie interactions with the room’s resident presence, which started off quiet but did not stay that way. So much unfolded the following night that we had to record an additional segment afterward to cover our new findings and connect the paranormal dots. 👻💔 Virtual tour of room 311 here Watch the full investigation video here. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited by Jaimi Ryan and produced by Emma Leventer and Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 0:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 1:17Speaker 02

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• 2:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey.

• 2:09Corinne Vien?

  Hello. This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 2:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two Girls, One Ghost. And we are your ghostesses. That is Corinne.

• 2:17Corinne Vien?

  Hello, way over here.

• 2:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And our ghost today, we have a real ghost with us. Because I am in the haunted Reed Hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee, in the very haunted room 311, where there is a spirit of a woman who is very much here and might make an appearance in the episode.

• 2:41Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 2:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is the very room.

• 2:43Corinne Vien?

  This is like the first time that you're staying in like the said haunted room, right?

• 2:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah. Yes.

• 2:51Corinne Vien?

  Because I feel like we've been to places and you've gone on location a few times before. But it's like, usually it's just like we're in the hotel.

• 2:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, the general vicinity. No, we're in the room where it happened.

• 3:04Corinne Vien?

  You spent the night there?

• 3:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I did. And I have some stories and we're gonna get to those.

• 3:10Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God. Did you sleep a wink? Or were you just terrified all night long?

• 3:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I dreamt a lot about setting up the recording, like, stuff. So my sleep was me dreaming about working.

• 3:22Corinne Vien?

  The anticipation of having to record in the morning.

• 3:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where do we set it up? Like, what's the best spot? Like, what if the, what if the ghost interferes with the audio and the microphones and the camera? Which could still happen, so stay tuned. But today's episode is celebrating two things. Two very exciting things. Well, one very exciting thing and one that I'm gonna call the anti thing.

• 3:44Corinne Vien?

  Oh, okay.

• 3:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is celebrating Friday, the 13th. Because that's right, this February, we have a Friday, the 13th. Actually, in 2026, I think we have three Friday, the 13ths.

• 3:54Corinne Vien?

  Three? Is that normal?

• 3:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Three.

• 3:55Corinne Vien?

  I feel like we only ever get maybe two.

• 3:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. We have a lot. So happy Friday, the 13th for those of you who celebrate, including us.

• 4:02Corinne Vien?

  Wait, oh, now I need to know which month they're in.

• 4:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'll tell you right now.

• 4:05Corinne Vien?

  For my planning of life.

• 4:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's February, March, and November.

• 4:11Corinne Vien?

  Oh, wow. Okay, so we've got two back to back.

• 4:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 4:14Corinne Vien?

  Perfect time to go get that tattoo. For all those Friday the 13th tattoo specials, if anyone's been.

• 4:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Perfect for you to come stay in room 311 because those are the only nights that room 311 is available to sleep in.

• 4:26Corinne Vien?

  What?

• 4:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm.

• 4:28Corinne Vien?

  I did not know that. So it's only available on a Friday the 13th.

• 4:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I think they have dates in October that they open it up for as well.

• 4:36Corinne Vien?

  So they just keep it empty the rest of the year?

• 4:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. So we're going to talk about that because, and we have a special guest today, Meredith Stedman from Rattled and Shook Podcast, joined me because I was like, I can't be here by myself. As daring as I may be, I was also a little chicken shit. And so at the end of the episode, Meredith will come in and join us and we'll talk about some of our experiences we've had here since, since being here.

• 5:00Corinne Vien?

  Perfect.

• 5:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But, okay, the other thing today's episode is celebrating is what comes after Friday the 13th? Saturday, the 14th, which is Valentine's Day.

• 5:10Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 5:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What were you, what did you say?

• 5:13Corinne Vien?

  Our half year anniversary, which is also Valentine's Day. What does that say about my obsession with you and our podcast? But instead of thinking Valentine's Day, I'm like, oh yeah, it's halfway between our, our annual anniversary.

• 5:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I actually much refer that because that was what I was going to be anti is I'm anti Valentine's Day. And also this episode's kind of like anti love. And maybe this should prove why.

• 5:38Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 5:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  None of us should be in love and all we should do is just become, just spend times with our best friends and our girlfriends. And that's the most important relationship of our life, you know?

• 5:48Corinne Vien?

  I can't, I'm coming off of rewatch two of heated rivalry. I could never disagree with you more than I do in this very moment. I love love.

• 5:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, this story.

• 5:56Corinne Vien?

  I love men loving men.

• 5:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This story will make you realize why I'm saying that.

• 6:01Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 6:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. So every Friday the 13th, oh, well, I, I guess it goes without saying, I'm covering this hotel in this room for this episode.

• 6:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was like, I didn't lead with that context.

• 6:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 6:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Okay. So every Friday the 13th, this hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee, opens the doors to their most haunted room. And lucky, or I guess maybe unlucky, no, it lucky me. They opened it up for me last night to spend the night.

• 6:31Corinne Vien?

  Dun dun dun. So amazing.

• 6:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is not just any hotel. This is not just any haunted room. This is room 311 of the Reed House Hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And it is gorgeous. Like, you can see just briefly how beautiful this room is and like the antiques and the wallpaper.

• 6:53Corinne Vien?

  Such a sucker for wallpaper.

• 6:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the whole hotel.

• 6:55Corinne Vien?

  Does the phone next to you work?

• 6:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So it doesn't, but this used to be the, the like room service.

• 7:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello?

• 7:03Corinne Vien?

  I love it.

• 7:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Could I get caviar, please, and some champagne?

• 7:07Corinne Vien?

  I need caviar for seasoning.

• 7:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A little bump of caviar.

• 7:10Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 7:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think that's like a thing that people do.

• 7:12Corinne Vien?

  Never have I ever done that. Never have I ever been, been given the opportunity to do that.

• 7:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, I don't eat.

• 7:18Corinne Vien?

  I think you have to be rich, right?

• 7:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Uh, I guess, I don't know. Caviar does seem like a rich person thing, but.

• 7:23Corinne Vien?

  It does. Although technically, is caviar just any fish egg?

• 7:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but I think the nice, you want the nice eggs.

• 7:30Corinne Vien?

  Oh, because I was like, well, we get it on our sushi sometimes.

• 7:35Corinne Vien?

  I've had the little tiny orange ones.

• 7:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I'm a vegetarian, so why am I trying to answer this?

• 7:41Corinne Vien?

  Anyway.

• 7:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 7:42Corinne Vien?

  You ordered caviar and then you slept in the haunted room.

• 7:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, this used to work. It does not work currently, but yeah, it used to be the hotel room phone. So this hotel is gorgeous and it was a staple. It's been a staple in downtown Chattanooga since it opened in the 1800s, 1872. So well over a century, inching upon two centuries. And it has welcomed important business people, travelers from all over the world. A ghost girl from Two Girls One Ghost. And it is also housed a famous mobster from the 1920s who we'll get into in a minute. But it has a lot of history. There's so many stories that this building can tell. Like truly, you walk in here. I walked into the lobby, which is beautiful.

• 8:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like very grandiose, like beautiful chandeliers, lots of antiques. And you can just feel the history.

• 8:33Corinne Vien?

  Hmm. Where my mind just went was like, I, I know that we should be celebrating how wonderful and beautiful it was. But I just immediately went to the fear of tornadoes and how like beautiful old places like this are in the tornado zone.

• 8:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you know where else this is beyond a tornado zone? Frickin Appalachia.

• 8:56Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God, double whammy.

• 8:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This girl, this ghoul drove through frickin Appalachia to get here. And I survived and I didn't see any creepy crawlers on the road.

• 9:06Corinne Vien?

  But that's good. Cause you were driving in the night, right?

• 9:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In the night, yep.

• 9:10Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 9:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so before Meredith and I talk about what we experienced in this room, I want to tell you the history of the hotel and of this land. Because I do feel like what makes this place so haunted isn't just what happened in this room. Isn't just the people who stayed here, the people who built it, who poured their lives and energy into this place. But the land. The Reed House Hotel has stood in downtown Chattanooga since 1872. And in the nearly two centuries, it has collected stories and some souls. Everything about it is super ornate. It actually reminds me a lot of the Driscoll Hotel that we went to in

• 9:49Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Austin.

• 9:50Corinne Vien?

  In Austin.

• 9:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it was, I guess the construction of this building was inspired by a different hotel in Chicago. It has very like Gatsby vibes, like very like 1920s art deco. I mean, as you can see from the

• 10:04Corinne Vien?

  Enter the mobster, like that makes total sense in this movie.

• 10:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And little light teaser, there are bars on the windows of this hotel room. Because perhaps a mobster stayed in here, a dangerous one.

• 10:17Corinne Vien?

  Like as a prison cell for him?

• 10:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, like during transport. Yep.

• 10:23Corinne Vien?

  Oh shit. Damn. Why are they putting them in nice hotels? Well, I shouldn't ask that. Pablo Escobar is a great example of getting whatever the hell you want. Yeah. If you're incarcerated.

• 10:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly. So this history goes way back, like origin stories, like circa like beginning of time.

• 10:43Corinne Vien?

  The land.

• 10:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The land before time. The land that is now the city of Chattanooga was first inhabited by indigenous people as most of America is. Most notably the Cherokee Nation. And this area sits along the Tennessee River, which made it the perfect place for trade, for travel, for agriculture. It's kind of in the valley of a bunch of mountains, the Appalachia Mountains. So it was the perfect place to travel between the mountains. And the mountains provided this kind of safety. You're in like the valley, you know? The Cherokee people called the region Chattanooga. It's spelled T S A T A N G U I. But pronounced Chattanooga, which is similar to what it is now Chattanooga. Chattanooga stood for Rock Rising Point.

• 11:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And as I was explaining, it's the area where the ridge and valley of the Appalachians meet the Cumberland Plateau. Which makes for beautiful scenery and Meredith and I haven't like walked around outside of the hotel very much. But when you look up photos of Chattanooga, you see like the Tennessee River and the landscape and the rolling hills and the like bridges and it has beautiful sunsets and stuff. So I'll go catch some photos myself tomorrow.

• 11:54Corinne Vien?

  All I'm thinking of is how beautiful someone gave us maybe like four or five years ago when we were at a show, someone from Chattanooga brought us magnets of Chattanooga. And I was like, damn, that place looks really nice.

• 12:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stunning. But with most of our land, what started as land that belonged to the natives. Slowly began to be colonized. In the 1540s, Spanish explorers passed through the region. Then in the 1700s, British colonials entered the area and began trade alliances with the Cherokee. In the late 1700s, after the American Revolution, the area saw some white settlers who began to illegally encroach on the land. But then, in the early 1800s, a man named John Ross took control, and John Ross was the principal chief of the Cherokee Nation. He was of Cherokee and Scottish descent. And he wanted to like really reestablish Cherokee control of this land.

• 12:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So he, he made the area a commercial hub for Cherokee. And he called it Ross's Landing, so he did name it after himself.

• 12:57Corinne Vien?

  You said he was Scottish too?

• 12:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 13:00Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that sounds like a white boy name.

• 13:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, but he was very like, he was the Cherokee principal chief. So he was more Cherokee than he was.

• 13:09Corinne Vien?

  Right, like deeply involved in the, in his culture still, yeah.

• 13:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was actually the last functioning Cherokee-controlled site in the region until the Trail of Tears.

• 13:21Corinne Vien?

  Oh god, I hate the Trail of Tears.

• 13:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, and it's pretty devastating, especially because, because of the location of Chattanooga and the Tennessee River. So many people who were forced along the Trail of Tears did stop in Chattanooga at some point. So there was a lot of famine, death, harm.

• 13:43Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 13:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That happened on this land.

• 13:45Corinne Vien?

  This is why the Nanehi opened up their mountain and said, "Come here before all of the destruction."

• 13:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. I actually was thinking about that a lot when I was researching this episode. I was like, it does feel very similar.

• 13:59Corinne Vien?

  Well, yeah, because so many of those stories with the Nanehi like proceeded and, and was leading up to that moment, the Trail of Tears.

• 14:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. So if you don't know, the Trail of Tears, in 1838, the US troops and local militias rounded up and detained mostly the Cherokee people, but it was natives, ripping them from their homes and forcing them into temporary camps. And due to the location of Ross's Landing and its proximity to the Tennessee River, many Cherokee people passed through this area before being forced west. And I'm not going to go full history class, but I just think it's very important to know that in context of the Trail of Tears, some four to 6,000 Cherokees died during the Trail of Tears.

• 14:39Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 14:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not all of them here, but like, they were forced into cram situations, like, the colonizers gave them like terrible diseases. They were starved. They were, yeah, it was just horrible conditions.

• 14:51Corinne Vien?

  You're bringing me back to middle school history class when we had the, do you remember the projectors where like you'd put?

• 14:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 14:57Corinne Vien?

  In order to see something like on the wall, we had like clear pictures, but like the ink was printed and it would project onto the wall. And that's like how our history teacher taught us about the Trail of Tears and showed us all of these illustrations of it. It was terrible.

• 15:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Horrible, horrible. So while not all of these people died here in Chattanooga, this land is undoubtedly stained by that history. And I think it's important context for understanding this hotel. So, once the Cherokee people were forced out of the land, Ross's Landing ceased to be a Cherokee place. The land was redistributed, it was sold or claimed by white settlers and developers. And within months, the white settlers took residence here. And in 1839, Chattanooga, Tennessee was officially incorporated as a city, and it became a bustling city because it had the river and it had the road networks through the mountains. And then the railroad expanded that growth and everyone was traveling. I mean, the railroad, the days of the railroad, I-

• 15:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Simultaneously don't but do want to like go back and experience because it just feels like such a different life.

• 16:04Corinne Vien?

  Like in ways it feels so exciting because of the innovation and getting to go and visit new places and like get dressed up and be fancy.

• 16:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 16:12Corinne Vien?

  But then when you think about like the people that it brought in and how much hardship was in all of those towns and it was like, that's like the Wild West. And people just being like enslaved.

• 16:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 16:23Corinne Vien?

  To create the railroads.

• 16:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm.

• 16:26Corinne Vien?

  And then Phineas Gage.

• 16:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. See, history class, we're, we're, we're kind of a history class.

• 16:32Corinne Vien?

  We remember some things.

• 16:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Some things.

• 16:35Corinne Vien?

  Small, small bits.

• 16:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But so Chattanooga became this really popular big hub for the railroad and people who were traveling on the railroad. It was even nicknamed the gateway to the South because it connected people from the deep South to the Midwest.

• 16:48Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 16:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And so it's around this time that when the railroad is bustling, that people are like, oh, well, we need more commercial businesses, but we also need more hotels for all these people who are traveling to stay at. So in 1847, a man by the name of Thomas Crutchfield made an agreement with the Nashville and Chattanooga Railroad and built a hotel just across the street. And it's called the Crutchfield House. So the Crutchfield House stood where the Reed House now stands. The hotel and Thomas became like, they had like become the center of Chattanooga community. The hotel is directly across from the railroad station. So many guests are spending their nights here. It becomes a place to gather for political, social, and economic conversation. Like, I feel like hotels weren't just a place to go sleep in.

• 17:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They were a place to socialize. It becomes so popular that, and like Thomas also becomes so popular, he becomes mayor of Chattanooga.

• 17:42Corinne Vien?

  Oh, wow.

• 17:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then if you know anything about history, this is the mid to late 1800s. There's something a brewing, the Civil War. And the United States is fractured over slavery, states' rights, economic power, federal authority. States were voting for succession and Chattanooga was a divided city. And I thought this was interesting, like Chattanooga was like the one city that was really holding Tennessee back from succeeding. In 1861, in the location that we are in, granted, different building, Jefferson Davis gave an impassioned speech encouraging Tennessee to join the Confederacy, but Thomas Crutchfield's brother, so the mayor and the owner of the Crutchfield House, William Crutchfield resisted. And it becomes this like duel, like literally guns get drawn.

• 18:25Corinne Vien?

  My god.

• 18:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So kind of the wildest.

• 18:28Corinne Vien?

  I am kind of shocked because I feel like when we learn about it, it just feels like, you know, here are the states that were, it just feels like such a clear divide.

• 18:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 18:35Corinne Vien?

  And I guess, yeah, it does make sense. It's almost like voting today where like there could be a state that's

• 18:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 18:41Corinne Vien?

  Totally red, but then there's like a couple of blue cities within it or something like that.

• 18:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  History repeats itself.

• 18:47Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 18:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We don't learn. So Crutchfield, he was a businessman and a railroad investor. And so he rejected the succession more for economic reasons. But anyway, there's such a big disagreement. There's literally weapons are drawn. No one ends up getting harmed. Eventually Tennessee does succeed in 1861 and becomes the last state to join the Confederacy. But we know how that turned out. The Union forces captured Chattanooga in 1863. They seized the city and as they did in war, they were like, well, we seized it, but now we need a place to stay. And there's this beautiful hotel here. So they take up residency in the Crutchfield House. The Civil War ended in 1865 and just two years later in 1867, the Crutchfield House was destroyed by a fire. Like nothing was left.

• 19:32Corinne Vien?

  Damn.

• 19:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 19:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 20:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 21:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So now the land is empty and post-war travel among the railroad and business travel generally surged. So more people are traveling, the city is running out of hotel rooms. And in 1872, there are two local businessmen who see this vacant lot, which is like literally right across the street from the railroad, like the entrance. They're like, oh, this is prime real estate. Let's build up some like business buildings. So they build like a whole commercial building. But then in 1872, a man by the name of John Thomas Reed sees these buildings and he's like, they're destined to be something more than commercial buildings. So he convinces the two businessmen to rent him, like lease him the building. And he turns it into the Reed House Hotel.

• 22:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So in 1872, the Reed House Hotel is opened. And immediately, the energy from what was once the Crutchfield House seems to radiate through the walls and halls of the Reed House. And it becomes similar to the Crutchfield House, the social center of Chattanooga. It's a meeting place for politics, for business, for socializing and prosperity. Railroad execs, business travelers, politicians, performers, they all decide to stay at the Reed House.

• 22:34Corinne Vien?

  Also, what a great impression of Chattanooga. Like imagine you're traveling there, it's your first time and you get off of the train and that is what you see, this like grandiose, opulent, like beautiful hotel. That would be such a good first impression.

• 22:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And also how convenient. I'm for sure staying there. I don't want to go lug my carriage. Also, like, think about what people had to travel with back in the days. Like they didn't have wheelie suitcases. They had these massive trunks.

• 23:03Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. What a burden. I don't think I'd travel.

• 23:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not that you travel much now, anyway.

• 23:10Corinne Vien?

  No, well, okay, but part of what, what is, you want me to travel with a car seat? No, thanks. I'm not getting on a plane.

• 23:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No. Okay, so eventually John Reed buys out the whole building from these businessmen and continues the Reed House rather than like renting the building. It's like now he owns it and it is the hotel. And John and his wife Caroline love this hotel deeply. Like, they live here, they take up residence here, they do nightly rounds, like knocking on doors, checking on guests. They granted, it's also like the late 1800s, like sometimes there were like dirty rotten scoundrels who would sneak into the hotel and they would go kick them out. But they were, they were very much a part of the hotel. They weren't just like the owners who didn't want anything to do with it. They would go have drinks, they would mingle with the customers, they were befriending the people who would stay here long term.

• 24:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And in 1879, they sold the hotel to their son, Sam R. Reed, but they continued to live and manage the property. In 1880, the Reed House Hotel is extended. In 1884, Grover Cleveland's presidential victory was celebrated at the Reed House. In 1886, a fourth story was added and in time, the Reed family ends up owning like the entire block that the hotel sits on, not just the Reed House.

• 24:28Corinne Vien?

  Wow, yeah.

• 24:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In 1898, John and Caroline celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary here in the Reed House Hotel, which I think is beautiful.

• 24:38Corinne Vien?

  That's so cute.

• 24:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Fifty years. See, okay, this is-

• 24:41Corinne Vien?

  And you said you don't believe in love.

• 24:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you'll see, it's not that I don't believe in it, but I'm, when we get to the, the reason this room is haunted, this is why I'm advocating for friendship over romance.

• 24:54Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 24:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In 1900, John Reed passed away, his funeral was held at the hotel.

• 25:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Caroline lived for another three years before she too passed away in 1903 and joined her beloved John on the other side. You would think that those two would be seen quite a lot in the hotel. But I spoke to the people at the front desk yesterday and I was like, have you, like, have people reported seeing John or Caroline Reed? And they all were like, no, actually, not at all. And one guy joked that they had enough of the hotel. Or maybe they're just at peace because

• 25:30Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 25:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  they left it in the hands of their family and they didn't need to stay.

• 25:33Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 25:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But there are some hauntings, and we'll get to it, that like, based on the way they sound, it does feel reminiscent of John and Caroline. But they've never been like seen, or they're not very active if they are here.

• 25:45Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, or maybe it's like residual or something.

• 25:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, definitely.

• 25:48Corinne Vien?

  It also, you just made me think, a thought that I don't think I've ever thought before with the paranormal, which is, I wonder if, especially with like a residual haunting, like if there's another spirit that's like actively haunting and their own memories can project like a residual haunting.

• 26:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 26:09Corinne Vien?

  Like, it's like their memory of interacting with someone else makes the ghost of that person appear, but that spirit isn't actually there. It's just a part of another spirit's

• 26:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 26:20Corinne Vien?

  memory and their own haunting.

• 26:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's cool. I believe that.

• 26:24Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 26:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We don't know what hauntings are.

• 26:25Corinne Vien?

  Who knows? Anything's possible. We know nothing.

• 26:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So their son Sam continues to operate the Reed House Hotel and continues his parents' legacy as if they never left. It's like their, their legacy and their energy is woven into the foundation of this business and of the hotel. In 1904, you're gonna love this, Corinne, the hotel adopts a European plan, which meant room rates started at $1 and up, and meals were served à la carte. And they had, quote, "unusual, but the finest Turkish baths."

• 26:56Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god.

• 26:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Room rates starting at $1.

• 27:00Corinne Vien?

  That sounds nice.

• 27:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 27:02Corinne Vien?

  What is that in today's money? Twenty bucks?

• 27:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I didn't look that up. I don't know. It's a good question. Nineteen oh four. Someone do the math for us. Also in nineteen oh four, guess what's introduced into Chattanooga? Coca-Cola. And it is first introduced in-

• 27:17Corinne Vien?

  Back when they were using cocaine!

• 27:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Literally. It was introduced-

• 27:20Corinne Vien?

  What a party in Chattanooga! You got Turkish baths and Coke?

• 27:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. It was implemented in the Reed House drugstore. Like, that was the first place in Chattanooga that got Coca-Cola.

• 27:30Corinne Vien?

  That's a fun fact.

• 27:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And the advertisement for it says, "It satisfies the thirsty and helps the weary." Yeah, nothing like a little cocaine in your bones.

• 27:39Corinne Vien?

  That's literally because it was-

• 27:43Corinne Vien?

  That slogan wouldn't work today for Coke. It's like, "Do you do all that?" I feel like that's- The marketing is wrong and people would sue.

• 27:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Did you try coca leaves when you were in Peru?

• 27:52Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I did. I was pretty dependent on them.

• 27:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, oh, for the altitude?

• 27:56Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 27:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 27:57Corinne Vien?

  We did a lot of hiking. Lot of hiking in Machu Picchu and just like a ton of different elevation changes. And I, I did a lot of Coke- I tried the leaves like once or twice, but I- I did a lot of Coke- I did a lot of Coca tea and then, uh-

• 28:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I liked the tea.

• 28:13Corinne Vien?

  They do like cough drops, like the Lasagna.

• 28:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah. You didn't chew on the actual leaves, or did you?

• 28:17Corinne Vien?

  Uh, just a couple of times, but it wasn't good.

• 28:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, no, it's like dirt.

• 28:21Corinne Vien?

  I think I was like so blind to what coca actually tastes like because I, we all like needed it so badly on our travels- Because we were there for like two, two weeks or so.

• 28:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 28:30Corinne Vien?

  That I bought a ton of Coca tea and brought it home with me as like a- Here's my like-

• 28:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, your souvenir.

• 28:36Corinne Vien?

  My thing that I'm like gifting my family or whatever. And then they're trying it and they're like, "Oh, pretty plain."

• 28:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 28:41Corinne Vien?

  I was like, "Oh."

• 28:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 28:42Corinne Vien?

  Anyway.

• 28:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anyway, so now, yeah, everyone's doing Coke in Chattanooga.

• 28:47Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm.

• 28:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Around the nineteen twenties, Chattanooga is a full-blown bustling city. And, but it's also nineteen twenties. We know it's happening. Prohibition, Great Depression. And the Reed House is not immune to the Great Depression. Also, it opened in eighteen seventy-two, so it's a little bit outdated. It's not like the center of the city anymore. People are choosing to stay at other hotels because there are other options. And the hotel's a little rundown. So they did- Decide to tear it down and build a brand new, even better, more luxurious Reed House Hotel. The same Reed House Hotel that exists today.

• 29:20Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 29:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But this is amazing. So the way they must have done the construction, they must have done it in phases because not a single day during the like year and a half time that they did this brand new rebuild, basically, was the Reed House closed. Not a single day was it closed. So it was always open for business during the construction. Yeah. They must have done it like section by section, I guess.

• 29:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 29:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Construction takes a year and a half plus and by nineteen twenty six, the Reed House Hotel reopens and throws a or it's, you know, does its grand reopening. There was a four day event to celebrate their new ten story, four hundred room, elegant, modern and fireproof hotel.

• 29:59Corinne Vien?

  I hate the word fireproof hotel ever being used.

• 30:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I think it's because it's like more concrete than it is wood built. And yeah, and that's a lot of cities.

• 30:10Corinne Vien?

  I just feel like that's been advertised a few times and then things go down flames like twenty years later.

• 30:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, the Crutchfield House burned down. And if you look at Chattanooga, again, like we haven't done a ton of exploring, but when I was coming in, I did notice that a lot of the buildings are more concrete. And I imagine that's because a fire destroyed a lot of the city.

• 30:29Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 30:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is common.

• 30:30Corinne Vien?

  I also wonder if like, again, thinking about tornadoes, does that help? Is that the preferred construction?

• 30:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do not know. I feel like you're the tornado expert.

• 30:41Corinne Vien?

  I'm the, I'm the one that fears it most.

• 30:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're the expert.

• 30:44Corinne Vien?

  I definitely died in a past life from a tornado because I have nightmares about tornado, tornadoes all the time and I have never been in a tornado.

• 30:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You never ended up in Oz.

• 30:54Corinne Vien?

  Nor did I grow up in, in an area with tornadoes.

• 30:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, but that one time we were in Austin, you did have a tornado warning and you were, it was very scary for you.

• 31:02Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, because I was coming off of decades of nightmares that I was gonna die in a tornado.

• 31:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, that's terrifying.

• 31:08Corinne Vien?

  I was like, this is it. Here it is. Here's the moment. You think you're gonna die in a car crash. I'll die in a tornado.

• 31:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, those might be past life things or maybe their current life. Who knows? Only time will tell.

• 31:21Corinne Vien?

  Stay tuned and find out.

• 31:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stay tuned to find out how we die. Okay, so it reopens in 1926 and this hotel is built with a strong art deco influence, featured a massive lobby, grand ballrooms, meeting spaces, updated guest rooms. The renovations cost $2.5 million and once they reopened, they upped the room rates to $2.50 and up, which-

• 31:46Corinne Vien?

  Inflation.

• 31:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But considering how much it costs for the renovations, I'm like, that's a modest increase.

• 31:52Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, true.

• 31:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so now when it reopens, the hotel reestablishes itself as the premier hotel in Chattanooga. Even Winston Churchill stays at the hotel in the 1930s. But also, you want to know who else stayed here during this time? Al frickin' Capone.

• 32:06Corinne Vien?

  Damn.

• 32:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because-

• 32:08Corinne Vien?

  That guy was everywhere.

• 32:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 32:09Corinne Vien?

  How did he have the time?

• 32:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, so it was during his transport, like his transportation to like different cells and stuff.

• 32:16Corinne Vien?

  Okay, yeah, so he wasn't doing mob business there.

• 32:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, no, no. So according to the hotel and like the historians, Al Capone literally stayed in the room that we are in right now, the room that I am recording in, and there are bars on the windows here in this room because, like, they say that they were installed for Capone to be able to stay here so that he wouldn't like run and escape. But Meredith did some research and said that apparently it was common for like hotels on the first couple of floors to have bars on their hotel rooms, but-

• 32:45Corinne Vien?

  That makes sense, just for like people trying to loot and break in and stuff like that.

• 32:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which I think maybe that made it a safe room for him to stay in because they're ready wear bars.

• 32:56Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. I feel like a lot of people hearing that Al Capone stayed in that room might anticipate a certain negative or like scary vibe in the energy. However, when you and I were in Vegas-

• 33:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 33:09Corinne Vien?

  And we went to Zach Bacon's museum. There was a room that was basically a replica of like Al Capone's, was it his like office? Or his library or something? I can't remember what it was, but like it was the one room where we're like, oh, this feels really nice.

• 33:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, and also we've, we've read a couple of stories where people like believe they've had interactions with Al Capone's ghosts and like they were kind of fun.

• 33:34Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it's such a confusing thing because like clearly, action wise, not a good guy, bad guy.

• 33:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Objectively, bad guy.

• 33:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, but it's weird that there's like the, the energy that is in the afterlife that comes with Al Capone is so different from what you would expect based on

• 33:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 33:50Corinne Vien?

  the terrors he brought to his living life.

• 33:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He's like, he's like that like dad who's like really like militant raising his kids, but like the second he like retires, he starts like smoking weed and like gets a tattoo and just like becomes a different person.

• 34:04Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I guess.

• 34:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so when Sam Reed passed away in nineteen forty-two, the heirs of the Reed family sold the building and the hotel. And then with World War Two and the state of the world, a lot of travel lessened. The railroad and nationwide travel, like every business experienced loss during this time. But despite all of that, the Reed House Hotel has remained. It has persisted through all of time. It's undergone various restorations and renovations and, and here it is today. Here we are right now doing a whole entire episode about it, staying in the hotel. It is still here and it is beautiful. And it's, it's a place that like you can really truly feel the history in the moment you walk in through the doors.

• 34:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And part of that feeling that you feel when you walk in isn't just the history. It's something that's still alive, something a little bit otherworldly and paranormal. Because this place is haunted.

• 35:01Corinne Vien?

  Dun dun dun, is anyone surprised?

• 35:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep, surprise, we're doing a ghost story.

• 35:07Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God, it's a ghost story this week. Can you believe?

• 35:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so we'll talk about, there's like a couple legends and hauntings that exist in like the hotel generally, but then we'll talk about this room. And then Meredith will come in and we'll talk about what has happened since being here.

• 35:23Corinne Vien?

  I'm nervous and I didn't even stay there.

• 35:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have a smile on my face, so I'm not possessed. That's a good thing. That's what they want you to think. Okay, so I was fully expecting John and Caroline Reed's spirits to be here. Like, I thought for sure they would be the ones haunting it. But like I said, there are no reports of their spirits being here. But there are hauntings that I said like earlier that do seem in line with them. Because people report cold spots or being watched in the lobby. They also report being followed in the hallways and upper floors, like footsteps behind you, which is very creepy and like you turn around and no one's there. People report like knocking on their door. But then when they go to like look at the door, no one's there, which that feels reminiscent of the Reeds, right?

• 36:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, they would knock on the doors, check on the guests and like do their nightly rounds. Also, one thing I want to say is the door to this room is very creepy compared to all the doors of the other rooms.

• 36:18Corinne Vien?

  Wait, why?

• 36:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like the old, original, it's actually not the original door, but it's like an old door. And like you have to use like a physical key to get in. Elevators will stop on floors at random, like when no one presses the buttons. Buttons will light up on their own, which elevators, I feel like traditionally, good place to haunt if you're a ghost. There are general discussions, but like no documented reports that I could find of people seeing soldiers or people in period clothing in the hotel. But there are also so many antiques, like even this room. None of the furniture in this room was original to the room, but they're all antiques. So that adds like a whole other layer. And if you go like walk through the lobby, there's this like library room that is full of antiques.

• 37:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Again, like not antiques original to the building. So it's like, what's coming with those? Are there spirits attached to those that have nothing to do with the hotel and the history of this land?

• 37:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, they have their own haunting past to bring in.

• 37:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then there's a mystery at the hotel. And it makes me really sad because as someone who like loves like old records, in 1994, the guestbook that dated all the way back to the Civil War went missing. And it has never been seen again.

• 37:32Corinne Vien?

  What? Who had access to the room where it was kept?

• 37:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't that so sad?

• 37:38Corinne Vien?

  That is so sad. Oh, my gosh.

• 37:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Never been seen again.

• 37:41Corinne Vien?

  You know what? I think it's gonna be, it's gonna resurface sometime in the next like 50 years. Because someone's gonna pass, a relative is gonna get this book inherited and they're gonna go.

• 37:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh, the Reed house.

• 37:52Corinne Vien?

  Onto the History Channel to see how much it's worth.

• 37:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm, I hope.

• 37:57Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that's when we're gonna find it. I feel like that happens like a decent amount where someone will go and try to like get some, something valued to see. Because they inherited some weird thing and it's like, oh, actually your great grandfather stole that from Egypt. So.

• 38:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which also that happens a lot.

• 38:13Corinne Vien?

  Probably should give that back.

• 38:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. We should do a whole episode about like stolen Egyptian goods because I feel like

• 38:18Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 38:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There are a lot of curses. Like literally, what in like, what, what was the story? Like people used to like snort mummified corpses as like a party trick.

• 38:28Corinne Vien?

  In the Victorian era.

• 38:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 38:29Corinne Vien?

  That was a big thing.

• 38:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anyway, the real reason that we are here today and in the Reed House Hotel is this room. It is also the reason that this hotel has such a haunted reputation. Room 311. The sad thing about this is there are no confirmed records about what happened in this room. So a lot of what is out there, there's like so many different iterations of this story. But I will share with you the one that the hotel staff and like the historians of the Reed House Hotel have shared. Also, when I posted on my Instagram story, I was like, recommendations for Chattanooga. Everyone was like, you have to go to the Reed House Hotel and learn about room 311.

• 39:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So if you have been to or around Chattanooga, oh, the light turned off. I was like, what just happened? Okay, room 311. As it is said, back in 1927, there is a woman by the name of Annalisa Netherly and her husband, who lived in this room, room 311. And Annalisa's husband was, he traveled a lot back and forth from Chattanooga to Chicago for, he was doing a lot of construction work. So he was like along the railroad, traveling a lot for business. And as the story goes, Annalisa was a bit of like a good time girl. Like she loved to go down to the lobby, have some drinks, have some cocktails, go into the billiard room, mingle with men.

• 40:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And

• 40:01Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 40:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  her husband was gone for long periods of time and she started to get lonely and apparently, according to legend, she would meet men, bring them up to the room and get her needs met.

• 40:13Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 40:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Her husband learned of her antics and tragically, in nineteen twenty seven, while Annalisa was in the bathtub enjoying a little me time, her lover, her husband, came into the room and stabbed her to death. While she was in the bath.

• 40:31Corinne Vien?

  Oh, God.

• 40:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do you now understand why I'm anti-love?

• 40:35Corinne Vien?

  The same thing happened to, was it, it was either in like Austin or Denver. I feel like we covered another hotel that had

• 40:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm.

• 40:42Corinne Vien?

  such a similar story.

• 40:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like the jilted lover story. Yeah.

• 40:46Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 40:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Unfortunately, we don't have many details, but I did look it up and during this time in the nineteen hundreds, like especially because businesses and hotels cared so much about their reputation, they would be very diligent and cautious about how they handled cases like this. Like they would basically like

• 41:04Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 41:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  work very closely with the police, kind of like hush, hush, pay you off. Can you handle this quietly? So it doesn't get to the papers and no one learns of it.

• 41:12Corinne Vien?

  Like Disney World, no one dies at Disney.

• 41:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly, exactly. So that could be one reason. It's also the nineteen twenties. Maybe records weren't kept as well. But whether you believe the story or not, it's totally up to you. But one thing is for certain, this room is haunted. People experience the water turning on in the bathroom by itself. Lights will flicker.

• 41:32Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 41:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, truly like right before setting up, the lamp to my right flickered.

• 41:39Corinne Vien?

  Haha, there we go.

• 41:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I did come into the room and said, good morning, Annalisa. So, uh, you know, I feel like we're on good terms.

• 41:47Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, she's welcome to join the recording if she would like.

• 41:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Absolutely. People will feel watched. They'll become overwhelmed with sadness and unease. And most people do believe the tauntings are attributed to Annalisa's spirit. Some have even reported seeing her spectral body. Some people have seen something move behind them in the mirrors in the bathroom. And I will say this, the room is absolutely stunning and on their way. Website, you actually can do one of those like full three D virtual tours of the room itself. Like, you know, when you're looking at real estate, you can like virtual tour of the house. Yeah. So they have that for this room. So if you want to go check it out, you can do that. It's beautiful. And there's a clawfoot tub, old wooden doors. The, like I said, the main door requires a physical key. We'll put pictures like side by side of the different room doors, like this door.

• 42:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You walk past it and you're like, oh, that looks creepy because it doesn't look like everything else.

• 42:39Corinne Vien?

  Different.

• 42:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my God. Wait, this is crazy. When I checked in yesterday, the woman at the front desk said like one of her first few weeks of working here. They had to call the fire department because this door sealed itself from within. And they could not get it open. They had to call the fire department and the fire department literally had to like physically remove the door.

• 43:01Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God.

• 43:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 43:03Corinne Vien?

  And it's not like they can get in from the outside because there's bars over the window.

• 43:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. And I was like, luckily, no one was staying in here, but they had to physically like cut it off the frame.

• 43:13Corinne Vien?

  Geez, that's wild. It makes me wonder what was happening.

• 43:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I, yeah, I don't know.

• 43:17Corinne Vien?

  Um, morbid question.

• 43:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 43:20Corinne Vien?

  The clawfoot tub, is the tub the same?

• 43:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It is not the original tub. Good question. It is not the original. So like nothing in here.

• 43:28Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, because you listed it in like the lovely things included in the room. And I was like, oh.

• 43:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And I have seen people who do stay in here, take pictures in the bathtub, which I, I don't think I would do. I just feel like it's a little bit disrespectful.

• 43:43Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I get, well, do they know? Is it just like?

• 43:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I think they know.

• 43:46Corinne Vien?

  I feel like when you come across a clawfoot tub, it does feel so unique. They're like, I could see myself not knowing anything and being like, take a picture of me in the tub. Like I'm pretending to be in my tub.

• 43:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And if you are staying here and you need to shower, like it's kind of the only option.

• 43:59Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 44:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it's definitely not the original. And I will say, people must know it's haunted because you can, you have to like specifically reserve this room. And it's available to book on Friday the 13th. So, like I said, there are three Fridays the 13th this year of 2026, February, March, and November. So if you want to stay at room 311, you can at the Reed House in Chattanooga. And it's beautiful. And you can also, you can request a tour of the room, like during other times of the year. So you can like,

• 44:33Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that's cool.

• 44:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, they'll, they'll give you like a history tour of the hotel. And then you can see the room itself.

• 44:38Corinne Vien?

  I like that.

• 44:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 44:40Corinne Vien?

  Because otherwise I'm like, damn, but it's like a little prized room.

• 44:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 44:43Corinne Vien?

  I would want to be able to see it.

• 44:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 44:45Corinne Vien?

  But then I also wouldn't be brave enough to stay in it. So the tour would be perfect for me.

• 44:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It would be, well, I, I will say, I was very adamant that we have another room to sleep in, in case it got scary.

• 45:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But this is a perfect time to bring Meredith in to talk about our experience while staying here. Welcome, Meredith.

• 45:07Speaker 03

  Thank you. Thank you so much.

• 45:10Corinne Vien?

  So you're like 12 hours in and you guys have already experienced the paranormal?

• 45:13Speaker 03

  And for my first time.

• 45:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is Meredith's,

• 45:16Speaker 03

  This is my first time.

• 45:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Very first experience.

• 45:19Corinne Vien?

  I'm shook, I'm rattled and shook.

• 45:21Speaker 03

  You're rattled and shook. No one's more rattled and shook than I am.

• 45:25Corinne Vien?

  I had no idea that you hadn't experienced anything before.

• 45:27Speaker 03

  No, I've,

• 45:27Corinne Vien?

  I just assumed.

• 45:28Speaker 03

  I know. I read a lot of scary stories.

• 45:32Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 45:32Speaker 03

  But I don't dabble in experiencing them myself typically.

• 45:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Until last night.

• 45:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, Sabrina was like, I'm bringing all my equipment. I was like, this is the first time I'm going to see any of that stuff.

• 45:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 45:45Speaker 03

  In real life.

• 45:46Corinne Vien?

  Were you nervous going into a little investigation?

• 45:49Speaker 03

  Um, yes and no. I think that, uh, not knowing too much about anything was my primary plan.

• 45:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because I was doing the research and I was like, Meredith, do you want to know about the haunting or not?

• 46:01Speaker 03

  I said, no. I said, maybe it's better if I don't. And honestly, like, I think that I was telling, we haven't talked about, you haven't said anything about what we've like heard so far. But even the littlest bit, even the littlest kernel, I was keeping it cool, but it got my like, it got my heart pumping just because I have so little experience with it.

• 46:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 46:20Corinne Vien?

  And it's just like the anticipation of something.

• 46:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:23Corinne Vien?

  The unpredictable happening.

• 46:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm. It almost felt like from, to start from the beginning. It almost felt like the hotel didn't want us to be here.

• 46:31Speaker 03

  Oh, accurate. Or it was gonna put on a show.

• 46:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, like, or it was like, you're gonna work to, to like, be with me.

• 46:38Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 46:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is kind of how it felt like getting here. There's a lot of travel delays. And then Meredith got here.

• 46:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, your travel was crazy. Sabrina.

• 46:48Corinne Vien?

  Well, yeah, Sabrina was in a snowstorm.

• 46:50Speaker 03

  Traversed the earth.

• 46:51Corinne Vien?

  Coming into Boston, snowstorm.

• 46:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But hey, it was worth it.

• 46:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. But then I got here before her, and so I checked in and went up to the non haunted room. Cause I was like, I don't want to go in the haunted room before Sabrina's here. I don't want to like spoil it. I ended up doing that. I ended up going in the haunted room by myself before, but um, I went to the non haunted room.

• 47:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which also was room 313, which is.

• 47:15Speaker 03

  Right. I was like, okay, so we're, we're staying in the room next to the haunted room and the non haunted room.

• 47:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're still sharing a wall.

• 47:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. Basically, you're like right there. And then it's also room 13 on this floor. So I was like, all right.

• 47:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Great.

• 47:29Speaker 03

  Perfect. I sit down for about 10 seconds and all of the alarms in the hotel go off. It's like, please evacuate.

• 47:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like full evacuation.

• 47:40Speaker 03

  Find the nearest stairwell. Do not use the elevator. I was like, oh, and it begins.

• 47:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 47:47Speaker 03

  So it has begun.

• 47:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My god.

• 47:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Full on evacuation.

• 47:52Corinne Vien?

  Oh, this makes me so curious of every Friday the 13th, when they have people booked in here, if more stuff happens. So there are like more incidents, more reports, more just like things breaking, maintenance calls. Because the room is trying to alert or like reject people.

• 48:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So this was our biggest debate yesterday, because we did set up and like, we, you know, like we lit a little candle, set intentions. And then we set up the RemPod, we, we set up the ghost stuff. But one thing we kept talking about is like, if no one's really staying here, except for maybe a couple of times a year, like, as a spirit, do you stay in this room? Or do you find, like, do you find yourself going elsewhere? And then also, because last night wasn't a Friday the 13th. Was the spirit not prepared for us to be here, you know? Was like, oh, wait, this is not right. You're not supposed to be here today. Like, she has her calendar marked of like Friday the 13th, okay?

• 48:49Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 48:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know to stay.

• 48:51Corinne Vien?

  Like, does the staff go in every January 1st and say, here are the dates?

• 48:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 48:55Corinne Vien?

  That are marked throughout the year.

• 48:57Speaker 03

  I'm just gonna leave this list on the couch. You peruse it at your soonest convenience.

• 49:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know if you guys watch Below Deck, but they get the, between new charter guests, they have like the preference sheet meetings and it's like all the names of the guests, like their food preferences and like the crew goes through it all. That's what I'm imagining for Annalisa.

• 49:16Speaker 03

  But it's Friday the 13th and then I think, did you talk about how, I think it's also weekends in October?

• 49:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 49:21Speaker 03

  Leading up to Halloween. I think, I don't know if that's new, but that's what they told me.

• 49:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you got a story too about the last couple who stayed here.

• 49:29Speaker 03

  Right.

• 49:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Prior to us.

• 49:30Speaker 03

  Right. So when I, so eventually Sabrina's like, I'm gonna be really late and I was like, oh, shoot. Well, maybe I'll just try to get a little bit of the story tonight while I'm here. I came in and did like a little tour of the room with a very nice man named Mr. Kirby, who was wearing a little bowler hat.

• 49:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Delightful.

• 49:50Speaker 03

  It was perfect. And he told me like kind of the run of the room and where, where the things happened and stuff about Al Capone and all that. And then he said that the last couple that stayed here, which was, would be the last people before we were in this room.

• 50:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 50:05Speaker 03

  Because it was in October and I guess they were probably the Halloween weekend people. Uh, they didn't last the night and they didn't end up staying in the room and they like were pretty shaken up. And I think that they also, then like the newspaper interviewed them. So I think we can find that story.

• 50:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 50:22Speaker 03

  The local newspaper talked to them, is what he said. So.

• 50:26Corinne Vien?

  Huh. Well, I'm very surprised by that because given how few days and weekends the room is available, like my thought is that people who book it are like extra brave, are super prepared for whatever happens in the room and for them to be like, no, we can't stay here. I'm so curious what actually happened to them.

• 50:46Speaker 03

  Well, I think that's a really good point, but I will say too, I wonder if it was different because they were a couple and I think it was a woman and a man.

• 50:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Which might be triggering for her.

• 50:56Speaker 03

  Triggering to the lore of, of Annalisa.

• 51:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's a good point.

• 51:01Speaker 03

  Whereas we are just two girls.

• 51:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Which I, okay, so. All in all, we experienced very little. We've used ghost tubes so many times, Corinne. Not a single word for over an hour, nothing.

• 51:15Corinne Vien?

  That is shocking.

• 51:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I've never had that happen. I was even explained to Meredith, like even when I'm at home and I turn on my ghost tube and I start to interact with the spirit world or whoever's around, at least something will come through. Not a word.

• 51:30Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, or like if there's a gap, it's like maybe 10 minutes and then something will come through and we'll hear a bunch of stuff.

• 51:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that just gave me chills.

• 51:36Speaker 03

  We got a little interference with that.

• 51:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 51:38Corinne Vien?

  You did? What happened?

• 51:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 51:40Speaker 03

  But now it's gone.

• 51:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you were, as you were talking, there was interference, like static in the headphones.

• 51:48Speaker 03

  So you're gonna have to say that again.

• 51:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, wait, yeah, what did you say?

• 51:52Corinne Vien?

  Oh, no, I was just saying like the, when we've experienced gaps in ghost tube before, it's been maybe like 10, 15 minutes or so. But a full hour with nothing?

• 52:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not a word. But we did have the REM pod set up in the bathroom. So we sat out here. We had a candle and then ghost tube set up and then we put the REM pod in the bathroom and it went off a couple of times.

• 52:14Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 52:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then the candle, it felt like the spirit was communicating with us via the flame.

• 52:21Speaker 03

  The candle did have the most kind of responsive nature.

• 52:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 52:25Speaker 03

  And it really, it fits the

• 52:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The vibe.

• 52:28Speaker 03

  The vibe.

• 52:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 52:29Speaker 03

  So I'm not really surprised.

• 52:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 52:31Speaker 03

  But when Sabrina told me that ghost tube doesn't normally do that, that like you get basically some sort of

• 52:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 52:37Speaker 03

  Some sort of messaging, basically anytime you open it, then the lack of it actually started to creep me out.

• 52:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is when we like got into a conversation of like, oh, was she not expecting anyone to be here? Is she even in this room? Like, does she wander the hotel?

• 52:51Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 52:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And also we were, then it got into a conversation about the antiques and stuff in the hotel and in this room, like it's hard to know. And I guess this is the issue with the paranormal or like partially the fun of it too. It's like, You don't have answers. You don't know definitively if like a haunting is XYZ spirit specifically. But we found that like when we were just like chatting and gabbing like girlfriends, the flame would kind of like go off, like as if she was contributing. So tonight, we're gonna do like face masks and room service in the room and kind of just like hang out with Annalisa and have a girls' night.

• 53:26Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that's such a good idea.

• 53:27Speaker 03

  I think that's what she wants.

• 53:28Corinne Vien?

  I feel like that's, yeah, that's what brings, and like Sabrina and I have been to quite a few haunted places before and often bring that sort of energy in.

• 53:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 53:36Corinne Vien?

  And it does, like the people who are with us who've been to haunted places like that specific place before are always like, why is there so much more happening tonight? And it's probably because it's like, if you just are there to have fun.

• 53:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 53:50Corinne Vien?

  And not provoke anything or like.

• 53:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 53:52Corinne Vien?

  Set expectations where it's like you have to perform, you have to talk.

• 53:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 53:56Corinne Vien?

  Then it works out better.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, otherwise it's like all the same thing. It's like, if you're a ghost in this room and the only people that come in are asking you the same questions, are you in the room with us?

• 54:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 54:08Speaker 03

  And like, how do you feel about, you know, what happened to you? I'm sure that they're like, I just want to hear some tea.

• 54:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Yeah.

• 54:16Speaker 03

  Like, I just want a good story to be told to me.

• 54:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Give me something new. Yeah. What's new on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? Wait, that's literally what I said. I said, there's no TV in here though, but I was like, we should just on my computer, put on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and like, give her some new entertainment.

• 54:32Corinne Vien?

  Oh, give her a taste.

• 54:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  More interference.

• 54:35Speaker 03

  More interference.

• 54:36Corinne Vien?

  It is interesting though, too, because like Meredith, to your point of being asked the same questions, it's also one of those things where like you have no idea the last people that came in to investigate what their intentions were.

• 54:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Totally.

• 54:46Corinne Vien?

  How they went about it, if it was really scary, maybe like for the spirits in the room too, where.

• 54:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 54:53Corinne Vien?

  Like you're the next one coming in. And so there's this huge guard up in there. Just like rejecting anything.

• 54:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm also so.

• 55:00Corinne Vien?

  Interaction.

• 55:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Curious what the cleaning and cleansing routine is because it. There was one time when we were walking back to room three thirteen from like the lobby, which you had to pass three eleven to get to three thirteen. And as we were passing this door, I got like a woo, like, like almost like a. Was she feeling like outside of this room? But inside this room, I feel fine like. And I was like, I wonder if they do any type of like routine cleansing or even just the products that they use like in cleaning the room. Does that kind of keep the energy at bay?

• 55:40Speaker 03

  Does Clorox decrease your chances?

• 55:44Corinne Vien?

  But like also outside of the room, anyone can walk up to the door, right? So it's like you're walking through a like area or like a piece of energy where so many people come fearful or anxious. And kind of like.

• 55:59Corinne Vien?

  Right there, yeah, in front of the door.

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• 57:04Speaker 03

  Well, also, I will say, we haven't mentioned this yet, and I think it could be relevant. We spent like the end of our night in this room.

• 57:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 57:12Speaker 03

  Like, that's what we did at the end of the night, like, after dinner, whatever. And we were both nauseous last night.

• 57:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We were. That's true.

• 57:20Speaker 03

  And that's, might be more regular for you, but it's irregular for me.

• 57:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 57:24Speaker 03

  I, like, never get nauseated. And I felt it all night.

• 57:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 57:28Speaker 03

  For kind of no reason.

• 57:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 57:30Speaker 03

  And I know that, like, that can be a bodily thing.

• 57:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I blamed it on my, like, dehydration from the day, but it could very much be.

• 57:35Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Wait, so did you stay in the room last night, or did you sleep in 313?

• 57:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Confession, we slept in 313, and tonight, we're gonna sleep in 311, because my travel day was so crazy that I was like... We did, like, an hour and a half investigation, just, like, hung out in here for a little bit, but we were like, let's get a good night's sleep in the normal room. And then, cause also this bed, Meredith and I will be spooning tonight, because it is, it is a small bed.

• 58:02Speaker 03

  It is a small bed.

• 58:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I'm also curious if, like, sleeping here, when we're not actively interacting, like, if she or any spirit will become more... More, more active.

• 58:14Speaker 03

  I think it was a good move, though, because you were, just came in, like, so late, and...

• 58:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was like, what is reality?

• 58:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:21Corinne Vien?

  Well, and then you probably conked out so hard that...

• 58:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:24Corinne Vien?

  If anything did happen, you might not even notice.

• 58:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would not have noticed. Yeah.

• 58:28Speaker 03

  So fair.

• 58:28Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I'm so curious how tonight will go.

• 58:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We were thinking of doing a livestream, too, so by the time this episode comes out, there will be a link to that, where, if you can re-watch it. Yeah.

• 58:39Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 58:39Speaker 03

  So crazy.

• 58:41Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, text me updates, because you know I'm awake at all, all hours in there. I actually checked your location, Sabrina, at, like, 2 a.m., and I was like, okay. Good, she's there.

• 58:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She's there, but she's in Appalachia. So who knows? I mean, that's the thing about this hotel. It's in Appalachia. And I gave the context of the history here, the Trail of Tears, the Cherokee and like the Civil War, American Revolution, there's so much history. Al Capone on top of the tragic murder of Annalisa here that I'm like, anything could happen.

• 59:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, anything.

• 59:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So stay tuned.

• 59:15Corinne Vien?

  Damn, I actually, you know what? I really respect that they don't have the room open to stay in every night. Because I feel like there's just, to your point, like so much has happened that everyone needs a breather, everyone needs a break.

• 59:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 59:27Speaker 03

  It's a good move.

• 59:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Instead of like harassing her constantly.

• 59:31Corinne Vien?

  And now you get to have girls' night.

• 59:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Girls' night. Ghouls' night.

• 59:36Speaker 03

  I know. But I'll be a little bit nervous since this is still my first time. When the REM pod went off that one time in the bathroom.

• 59:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 59:44Corinne Vien?

  Oh, it did go off.

• 59:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's okay, yes. The REM pod went, so the REM pod's the one thing and the flame were like the only things that had activity. We were sitting in this room just talking. And I had said, like, if you want us to go into the bathroom, like the REM pod's in there, you can totally just like activate it. And it went off.

• 1:00:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do you want us to come into the bathroom?

• 1:00:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like that's the, yeah. We moved into the bathroom and it was going off like while we were sitting there. It was really loud and I was like, oh, maybe it was just like our energy, like it's us. And it was absolutely not us. It's, you know, like that, like trying to rationalize something, but

• 1:00:33Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  it was clearly not us because then it stopped and then never did it again. That might be me. That might be me, though.

• 1:00:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh, watch out for the flame. Oh, thank you, that would have been bad.

• 1:00:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 1:00:55Speaker 03

  It might not be you.

• 1:00:58Speaker 03

  And the bathroom is where everything went down.

• 1:01:00Corinne Vien?

  Right, yeah.

• 1:01:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There was some other.

• 1:01:02Speaker 03

  Guess it makes sense.

• 1:01:03Corinne Vien?

  Are you setting everything up tonight too? And you're just not interacting with it, but like letting things run?

• 1:01:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, we'll do like a little, if we do the live stream, which we will, we'll do the live stream investigation. So we'll do an interaction then, but then after that, yeah, we're just doing some good snacks and Real Housewives or some, or some, or maybe heated rivalry. Cause Meredith hasn't watched it.

• 1:01:23Speaker 03

  I haven't seen it yet and I really want to.

• 1:01:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my God. You, I feel like she would love that.

• 1:01:28Speaker 03

  I know. I'm like so behind on the times. I'm like, I haven't done a paranormal investigation. I haven't seen heated rivalry.

• 1:01:35Corinne Vien?

  I like, don't even get me started on heated. My mom, I tried to talk to my mom about it and she interrupted me at one point and said, wow, you really have more to say about this, huh? Cause I like couldn't stop talking about it. It's such a good.

• 1:01:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's so good.

• 1:01:49Corinne Vien?

  Frickin' show and you guys should definitely watch it tonight.

• 1:01:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Annalisa, do you want to watch it?

• 1:01:54Corinne Vien?

  I like posted on my Instagram that, uh.

• 1:01:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That it's all you can think about?

• 1:01:57Corinne Vien?

  A few, yeah. And a few people were like, oh, I can't wait to hear you and Sabrina talk about it on your podcast. And I responded to those people and I was like, well, we attempted to, but I started crying pretty much immediately. So I'm not really gonna get much.

• 1:02:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I also haven't.

• 1:02:10Corinne Vien?

  But it's a good idea.

• 1:02:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Only watched the first episode, so I have to, we can restart it and watch it.

• 1:02:14Speaker 03

  All of my friends have been texting me about it. I just honestly haven't gotten to it, but one of my friends texted me, I'm addicted to this Russian man's tears. So what is that? Is there someone who's Russian in it?

• 1:02:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  Okay, gotcha. All right. I was like, that's a very interesting text to receive. I'm intrigued about this show.

• 1:02:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I think Annalisa will be intrigued as well.

• 1:02:33Corinne Vien?

  And Annalisa is gonna love it. It is going to blow her mind when she sees it.

• 1:02:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. This is the type of stuff that, like, you know, when people turn on the TV for their pets when they leave for the day?

• 1:02:43Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:02:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, I feel like they should have some type of entertainment for Annalisa during the times when no one's here.

• 1:02:48Speaker 03

  I know. There's only a radio in here, but does it work? Is that the radio?

• 1:02:52Corinne Vien?

  I think so. It's an old timey radio.

• 1:02:54Speaker 03

  I guess we should try that.

• 1:02:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, we'll put it on.

• 1:02:56Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 1:02:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh.

• 1:03:00Corinne Vien?

  Is that a yes?

• 1:03:01Speaker 03

  That's a yes. I think someone wants the radio on.

• 1:03:05Corinne Vien?

  Wait, what just happened?

• 1:03:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Interference again.

• 1:03:07Speaker 03

  It's very like pointed interference.

• 1:03:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's truly the three times that we've had interference in the headphones has been the three times like we talked specifically about doing something with Annalisa.

• 1:03:17Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:03:18Corinne Vien?

  Oh, hell yeah. She likes you guys now. She's in.

• 1:03:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let's do it again. Wow.

• 1:03:23Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 1:03:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Amazing. We're, we're gonna do it.

• 1:03:27Speaker 03

  Yes. Heated rivalry and face masks.

• 1:03:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. And ghosts. Dream night.

• 1:03:32Speaker 03

  Right, and ghosts. Yes.

• 1:03:34Corinne Vien?

  She also has some opinions about Hudson and Connor.

• 1:03:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 1:03:37Corinne Vien?

  Or Ili- Iliun Shane.

• 1:03:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Their character names, yeah.

• 1:03:41Speaker 03

  Hudson and Connor. Yeah.

• 1:03:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:43Corinne Vien?

  Sorry, I'm too, I'm too deep.

• 1:03:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're so deep.

• 1:03:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're so deep, you know the.

• 1:03:47Corinne Vien?

  I know the middle names of everyone's parents.

• 1:03:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But yeah, this is the Reed House Hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and the haunted room 311, which again, you can stay at on the Friday, the 13th of every year, but 2026, it's February, March, and November. So you can reserve the room for yourself and let us know if you have anything happen. And also check out Meredith's podcast, Rattled and Shook. What else do you have going on? Where, where can they find you?

• 1:04:15Speaker 03

  Um, mostly I do audio stuff at YouTube, of course, and Instagram. Those are probably the two next best places besides Apple Podcasts, Spotify, whatever.

• 1:04:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wherever you listen to your podcasts.

• 1:04:27Speaker 03

  Wherever you listen to your podcasts.

• 1:04:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thanks. Thanks for joining me so that I didn't have to be here alone.

• 1:04:31Speaker 03

  Honestly, I'm having a blast. Like, I can't believe you guys have done this so much.

• 1:04:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's so fun.

• 1:04:36Speaker 03

  It's, it's.

• 1:04:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's the best.

• 1:04:38Speaker 03

  It's really thrilling.

• 1:04:39Corinne Vien?

  I'm so excited for you that you get to have your first paranormal experiences here.

• 1:04:43Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:04:43Corinne Vien?

  And like in such a unique setting where not that many people get access to this place either.

• 1:04:47Speaker 03

  I know. And when Sabrina texted me, I think I had just been like, my New Year's resolution is like to do more things I haven't done before. And then like a day later, you were like, you want to stay in a haunted room? And I was like, all right, well, yes, I do.

• 1:05:02Corinne Vien?

  Look at that. You're manifesting. You're speaking into the universe.

• 1:05:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So when your friends text you, hey, do you want to stay at a haunted hotel with me? Always say yes.

• 1:05:10Speaker 03

  Always say yes.

• 1:05:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And that's why we are ghoul friends and girlfriends over jilted lovers this Valentine's Day.

• 1:05:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:19Corinne Vien?

  Well, happy. Investigating tonight.

• 1:05:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thanks.

• 1:05:22Corinne Vien?

  Thanks.

• 1:05:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And happy Friday the 13th to everyone who's listening.

• 1:05:25Corinne Vien?

  Yay.

• 1:05:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're back.

• 1:05:37Corinne Vien?

  Back so soon, Sabrina.

• 1:05:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because literally within the last 24 hours, so much has happened. And I obviously, we were like, we need to update you. I texted Corinne, I was like, we need to record an addendum to episode 359. And here we are because my gosh, have we learned some stories? Have we experienced some things? And I feel like I have a whole hypothesis surrounding room 311 at the Reed House Hotel now.

• 1:06:08Corinne Vien?

  Oh dang. Oh my God, a lot changed in 24 hours.

• 1:06:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 1:06:12Corinne Vien?

  I thought you were just gonna be like, we made contact.

• 1:06:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, we did. Okay, so as context, we recorded the episode. And Meredith and I told you, Corinne, that like, we really didn't have many hauntings happen. We had like little things, but nothing of note. And like, it was the first time ever that Ghost Tube has been radio silent, right? I believe Annalisa was trying to like feel us out last night.

• 1:06:36Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because today, or I guess yesterday now, but when we immediately ended recording, we had campfire stories on Patreon.

• 1:06:46Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 1:06:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we decided, let's do like a little like impromptu paranormal investigation. Let's just see. And I didn't expect anything to happen because last night, Annalisa was so quiet. Oh my gosh, she was responsive.

• 1:07:01Corinne Vien?

  And it was very specific what she was responding to.

• 1:07:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So specific. She told us to call her Anne.

• 1:07:08Corinne Vien?

  Anne.

• 1:07:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anne. Annalisa.

• 1:07:10Corinne Vien?

  It just said Anne and her name is Annalisa. Did you go by Anne?

• 1:07:19Corinne Vien?

  Do you want us to call you Anne?

• 1:07:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She kept saying Mary and I really believe now, like after everything that we learned, because the story has been skewed so many ways. Like some people called her a sex worker, all of this stuff. I think she was really trying to emphasize like it was important for people to know that she was married. Like that she wants to get her story straight. She was married, her husband murdered her.

• 1:07:41Corinne Vien?

  Because we were also, based on some of the responses that came through during that investigation, we were wondering if some of her responses meant that her husband was having an affair and she was name dropping the women that he was having an affair with.

• 1:07:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Both is true. I think he was for, he was traveling for work. He was in Chicago. Who knows what he was doing? And I think she believes he was having an affair as well, or multiple, because she said cheating.

• 1:08:06Corinne Vien?

  This is not the battery. Kimberly, is there Kimberly here on Campfire Stories? Eric asked if Anna, if that's Andrea. What do you make of Andrea and Kimberly? Yeah, I don't know.

• 1:08:23Speaker 05

  Cheating.

• 1:08:24Corinne Vien?

  Cheating. He was cheating too.

• 1:08:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you can watch back the whole live investigation. It's on Patreon to re-watch. But yeah, she said cheating. She called him pathetic, weak, and a bunch of different things. And then later Meredith and I did do a tour with Mr. Spalding, which if you go to visit the Reed House Hotel and you choose not to stay in haunted room 311, you can ask for a tour. And either Mr. Kirby or Mr. Spalding will give you a tour and take you into room 311 and tell you the story. But Mr. Spalding told us that it's very possible her husband actually paid the cops off.

• 1:09:03Corinne Vien?

  Oh shit.

• 1:09:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And I actually loved his turn of phrase that he used was to sweep it under the tub.

• 1:09:10Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that's like brilliant and also so upsetting. But okay, so when we left Campfire Stories, it seemed like she was excited for the girls' night that was planned. Like she started responding to the idea of that.

• 1:09:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And this is the biggest takeaway. I'll say it now. I think she hates men, rightfully so, and she wants to be respected. I think she views that room very much as her place. And I'll tell you another story that I learned, but I really just genuinely believe she just wants to be respected and doesn't like men. But I, I think that is the

• 1:09:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  biggest takeaway.

• 1:09:49Corinne Vien?

  Which like I do hope because she did have, so the story goes, she entertained many different male suitors while her husband was traveling for work to satiate her needs. And I do hope that like she found comfort and

• 1:10:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:03Corinne Vien?

  and like trustworthiness in some of those people. And then it's not just like a blanket.

• 1:10:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:08Corinne Vien?

  Every single man in her life has wronged her because that makes me really sad.

• 1:10:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, and I don't think they did, but I just think since then she just doesn't trust men, which I don't blame.

• 1:10:19Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, there's a weariness to it. It's like her husband killed her, cops were bought off.

• 1:10:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:25Corinne Vien?

  There's no reason to really trust the, the guy who married you, who's supposed to care for you and, and love you, killed you.

• 1:10:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Killed you. And I did learn more context. So Mr. Spalding told us that according to the historians at the hotel, her husband, so Mr. Netherly was on the train in Chicago. And I guess there was some other man on the train talking very loudly about his amazing stay at the Reed House Hotel and Miss Annalisa and how he like can't wait to go back to see her again. And that's how he learned about the affair.

• 1:11:00Corinne Vien?

  Oh damn.

• 1:11:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:02Corinne Vien?

  That's such a bummer because it's like, also like those things don't make it true just because someone said something.

• 1:11:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. I know.

• 1:11:09Corinne Vien?

  Like I, I feel like a lot of people, I've been on the receiving end of someone saying something happened between us. And there's this whole story and I find out and I'm like, who's this person? Wait, when was this?

• 1:11:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm sorry, where'd this come from?

• 1:11:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, like why?

• 1:11:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But, okay, so two other big things. One, she asked for a brandy, which so later in the night, Meredith and I did bring her a brandy. But two, during our investigation on Campire Stories, she said, baby and protect. And she kept talking about this child. And we were like, that's so strange because no record ever has her pregnant or having a baby, right? And then this is wild because later in the night, Mr. Spalding was giving us a tour and he goes, a lot of people have caught photos of her that she looks pregnant. And she shows up to children a lot and is very protective of children.

• 1:12:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:03Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God, I've.

• 1:12:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Chills. And he showed us two photos. Oh, they were so chill. I wasn't allowed to take photos of them to provide the photos for you. But if you do the tour at the Reed House Hotel, they will show you the photos as well. But there were two. One of them was in the bathroom mirror. And she's like very much looking at the person. And I think it was like a bellhop who was giving people a tour. And then the other one is she's standing kind of in the middle of the room. And she has her hair in a bun. It's like dark hair and she's wearing this like whiteish grayish dress. And she's often seen wearing white in the building.

• 1:12:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the craziest story that Mr. Spalding told us, and this was like one of the biggest reasons why I was like, oh my God, we need to, we need to have an addendum. So as the story goes, a couple was staying in the room. They had checked in and not like a couple hours later, does the front desk get a call? And the night auditor who still works there and is still the night auditor of the Reed House Hotel picks up. And the woman is freaking out and she's like, I need another room. My husband is acting in a way I've never ever seen before. I need to get out of here. I need another room. Obviously they're like concerned. They send up two of the like the waitstaff who are on duty to go like assist. I think one of them's name is Dylan. I can't remember the other woman's name.

• 1:13:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But they get up there and they get to the room. The husband is literally writhing on the ground as if he is possessed. I feel like it's at the point where they shouldn't let men stay there. Right? But, okay, so then the woman's like freaking out. She's like, I've never seen him like this. He's only had a couple of drinks. I don't know what's happening. The woman on the waitstaff goes into the bathroom, brings like a, you know, glass and fills it up with water. And then she like sprinkles the water on the man's face. Like, I don't know, trying to like help him. He literally starts weeping and says, I can feel her tears. I can feel her tears. Oh.

• 1:14:10Corinne Vien?

  Holy crap. I am so curious with this guy, like, once he fully came out of the room and that experience, what he remembers.

• 1:14:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. And I mean, there's no, like, end to that story.

• 1:14:22Corinne Vien?

  Wait, so how does, okay, so Mr., we have two men who are giving the tours. How does she respond to them?

• 1:14:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. So Mr. Spalding, we did ask him that, and he was like, I really do think, and I hope she knows how much I respect her and appreciate her, and I'm like, trying to tell her story. And I, I think because he's trying to tell her side of the story, she respects him. And also, she probably is familiar with him. Whereas, these people who are staying the night in room 311, myself included, were strangers. We're new to her. We're only there for a short period of time. And her husband used to smoke a lot, so she doesn't like smokers. And I think probably is cautious about too much alcohol, too. So I do think it was, like, really beneficial that it was just Meredith and I. It was two girls. And

• 1:15:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  there was no romance, no romantic relationship, you know? I feel like for, for Annalisa, she didn't have to fear for the woman. And I, I like to think that she was, and even in the story that I just told, I like to think that she was trying to be protective in a way.

• 1:15:28Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. It, it makes a lot of sense to me now, like, knowing that she appears pregnant and that she appears so much to children. And then her even coming through saying, like, baby and protect. You and Meredith were saying how, how surprised you were, how silent it was.

• 1:15:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:45Corinne Vien?

  It was like she had totally retreated and was not engaging at all.

• 1:15:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:50Corinne Vien?

  And that does feel reminiscent of, like, a mom who's trying to protect her child. It's just like, there's no interaction, there's no risk-taking. It is just like, this is what I think is the safe route, and this is what I'm gonna do. I'm going to just not engage, I'm going to retreat. I'm gonna protect me and my child. And if danger comes, which is a man.

• 1:16:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:13Corinne Vien?

  I'm gonna attack.

• 1:16:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And then I think because we've, we, Meredith and I spent so much time in the room, she started to realize like, oh, maybe I can hang out with them.

• 1:16:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we did. We hung out. And I learned, okay, so like the night, well, actually one more thing about Al Capone, because when we did the live stream, we weren't sure whether or not Al Capone stayed in the room before or after Annalisa was murdered tragically. Mr. Spalding told us, so the murder happened in 1927. Al Capone stayed in the hotel in 1931. And I'm pretty sure, we'll have to go back and look at the live stream, but I think, Annalisa made a comment when we were talking about Al Capone, in the vein of like, weak or pathetic, like, kind of making fun of him. And so I asked Mr. Spalding, I was like, is there any record of him experiencing any hauntings in this room? Because I imagine she would hate him. Like,

• 1:17:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  that's like the last person you want staying in your room if you're Annalisa. And apparently, Al Capone went to say that he experienced no hauntings, like very out loud said, no hauntings, which almost like, is like, oh, you're trying to cover it up? Like, why would you even address it if there were no hauntings?

• 1:17:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, why would you declare only four years later? I definitely did not experience hauntings in that room.

• 1:17:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. And then he also apparently told people he would never stay at the Reed House Hotel again. Which makes me think he did have some experiences.

• 1:17:35Corinne Vien?

  Because why else would he think that? It's a beautiful place.

• 1:17:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 1:17:39Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that's a real suspicious.

• 1:17:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:41Corinne Vien?

  I think Al Capone's a bad actor here. I think he definitely encountered her spirit.

• 1:17:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For sure. Okay, so then Meredith and I had a girls' night with Annalisa. You asked for two things earlier. You said, brandy and beer. So here's your brandy.

• 1:17:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can actually have either glass, but we were gonna cheers with you and have some.

• 1:18:03Speaker 05

  Ooh, yes.

• 1:18:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then here is your beer.

• 1:18:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cheers. Cheers. Thank you so much for welcoming us into Girls' Night. Girls' Night. We just ordered pizza too and it's gonna be here soon. And wings. And wings and salad. And salad. Because we're girls. And we're healthy. Watching our figure. We're watching our figures. No we're not.

• 1:18:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You the guy am? I have like downed everything. My diet of candy. Right, right, right.

• 1:18:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Don't. Don't. Don't watch your figure. Girls, girl. Girls, girl.

• 1:18:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's unreal. And I think, okay, two things. She loves her brandy. She also asked, we had gotten glasses of champagne and she asked for the champagne specifically. And we were like, sure, here, have our champagne. She kept asking questions about Heated Rivalry. Like, who's that? What is this?

• 1:19:08Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so you did watch it?

• 1:19:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:19:10Corinne Vien?

  I wasn't sure if you guys were going to because I was definitely like pushing hard that you guys watched Heated Rivalry. But then on Campfire Story, someone was like, well, is that the best choice for her because of her, her like views of men? Is she gonna feel weird about that show? I was like, I think the opposite. I think this is her moment to see the tenderness and care.

• 1:19:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I will say though, it was kind of like watching with your mom who doesn't stop asking questions.

• 1:19:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But by episode two, she was very quiet and I think just sat back and watched. Do you wanna watch Heated Rivalry? I do.

• 1:20:01Speaker 05

  Agreed. He's not here. No, they're not here. All right. Who is that?

• 1:20:12Speaker 05

  Uh, I don't know his name. I think that's Shane. And then Ilya is the Russian one. He's not here. He's not here. He's not here. Can't corroborate.

• 1:20:25Speaker 05

  Please.

• 1:20:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or she did say at one point, she said, I'm leaving. So maybe she got bored or maybe she like went to go somewhere else in the hotel, which is also around the same time.

• 1:20:37Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, or maybe she, maybe she just got a little too into it and she was like, I, I can't be here anymore. I gotta go. Sit in my own thoughts and feelings for a minute.

• 1:20:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it was also around the same time that, um, like, so on Monday night, when I first got there, we started to do like an investigation of the room around 11:00 PM. And that was when it was like radio silent. And when she left last night was around 11:00 PM as well. So I'm like, I don't know if that, maybe that's her like me time.

• 1:21:05Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Well, I mean, cause Meredith even made a comment about how much more chatty she was during the day.

• 1:21:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:13Corinne Vien?

  Seemed to be more of a day person and then maybe quieter and more restful at night. Which honestly, I feel like makes sense because I feel like most people who are seeking out that room and like attempting to make contact or do some sort of like investigation of sorts. It typically happens at night because that's when like ghost hunting happens, you know? So I wonder if she's used to just kind of being more avoidant at night as well.

• 1:21:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't want to deal with that.

• 1:21:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She was also very protective of her space. Like there were multiple times she, she said disrespectful. Like we had ordered pizza and I, my thought was like, let's eat in bed. And I like got on the bed with the pizza and she said disrespectful.

• 1:22:00Speaker 05

  We're home. Does this feel like home to you? Disrespectful.

• 1:22:05Speaker 03

  We shouldn't put pizza on the bed.

• 1:22:07Speaker 05

  Oh, that's fair. Better. Sorry, is that better? Do you want us to eat in the living room?

• 1:22:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then we moved to the living room and she was like, "That's better. This is my home."

• 1:22:17Corinne Vien?

  That makes sense. And she did confirm for us that there used to be some sort of like kitchenette.

• 1:22:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:23Corinne Vien?

  In her room. So I wonder if like you moving into the living room is kind of like where the kitchenette had been rolled in for her when she was staying there.

• 1:22:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:30Corinne Vien?

  So like that made sense to her. Like you eat over here.

• 1:22:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 1:22:34Corinne Vien?

  This is the dining space.

• 1:22:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Respect my place, follow my rules. I also did have to go to the bathroom. I had to pee and I, before I did, I asked her, because the bathroom is where she lost her life, you know, like I just, I didn't want to go, one, I didn't want to go in the bathroom and get haunted. And two, I also wanted to like make sure she was okay with it. So I asked, I said, "I have to go to the bathroom. Do you mind if I use your restroom?" And she said, "Leave." So I went to go pee in our other room.

• 1:23:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:07Speaker 03

  Girls' night starts now.

• 1:23:08Speaker 05

  I do need to pee. Is it okay if I pee in the bathroom with you?

• 1:23:13Speaker 05

  Danger.

• 1:23:13Speaker 03

  Oh, okay, we'll go. We will go in the other room. Honestly heard.

• 1:23:19Speaker 05

  Okay. It's dangerous to go- Please leave.

• 1:23:23Speaker 05

  So don't pee in there.

• 1:23:25Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:23:26Speaker 05

  Please leave to pee.

• 1:23:26Speaker 03

  All right, we will leave.

• 1:23:27Speaker 05

  We will not use your restroom.

• 1:23:29Speaker 03

  We will leave. We will leave. We have noted.

• 1:23:31Speaker 05

  Noted. Wow.

• 1:23:33Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that's an interesting point where it's like, you know, like you had another room. Most people who stay in 311, that's where they're staying. They don't book a separate room as backup.

• 1:23:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So just explain to her what you're doing and tell her you mean it in respect. You just have to use the restroom. You'll be, you'll clean up after yourself. You'll wash your hands. You won't disrespect her place. I think that's the key takeaway.

• 1:23:57Corinne Vien?

  It's also, I'm sure, very hard for her to like watch people, especially like couples who spend the night, just like to go through their nightly routine. Like use the bathroom, brush their teeth, then get into bed with one another. And she's like, I would imagine that that does feel incredibly disrespectful. It's like, you're living a different version of a relationship in life that I didn't get to live. And you're doing it right where I- I was attacked and murdered and died.

• 1:24:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In a place that she also views as hers. Like this is my room.

• 1:24:25Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 1:24:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause it's not like the hotels open every single night for people to stay in this room. And she's used to people coming in and out. It's like, it's, I think Saturdays and Octobers on Halloween. And then Friday, the thirteenth. So not that often are guests coming into this room.

• 1:24:42Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 1:24:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the hotel does always have a backup room available just in case. Cause they, they've had enough experience of people staying in room three eleven. Needing another room.

• 1:24:56Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Oh, amazing. Oh, I wish I could see those photos.

• 1:25:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. I know. I'll ask them if they will send them to you and I so you can see them. But yeah, they're wild.

• 1:25:07Corinne Vien?

  Some of the best paranormal footage is honestly like from hotels or like ghost tours, places like this where it's, other people have captured the photos, sent them to the organization, the business running it. And then they like show it on tours.

• 1:25:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 1:25:22Corinne Vien?

  But it doesn't exist on the internet.

• 1:25:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's not on the internet.

• 1:25:24Corinne Vien?

  What?

• 1:25:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is so wild.

• 1:25:25Corinne Vien?

  Like one of the best pieces of evidence I ever saw of a shadow person was from Bulldog Tours in the old Charleston jail. Five, six years ago. That is wild, but like you don't ever get to see it anywhere outside of.

• 1:25:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One of my favorites is the one we saw at the Lizzie Borden house, that video of the closet and the shadow.

• 1:25:47Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, so if you want to see the photos, go visit the Reed House Hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Also, remember in the, earlier in this episode, I did talk about how people experience hauntings in the elevators. Meredith and I are leaving. We pack our bags. We get into the elevator. We press lobby. All of a sudden, we are all the way up at the top. The elevator door is never open. It goes up all the way to floor 10 and then goes all the way back down, counts all the way back down and brings us to the lobby. Randomly. Door is never open.

• 1:26:17Corinne Vien?

  Maybe it was her little send off, her little goodbye to you guys.

• 1:26:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Absolutely believe it was. Yeah.

• 1:26:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was like such an incredible trip.

• 1:26:26Corinne Vien?

  That was a lot of activity for the second night. Second day and second night.

• 1:26:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. Amazing.

• 1:26:30Corinne Vien?

  Cause there was still, there was a lot coming through with that live stream.

• 1:26:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. It was so cool.

• 1:26:35Corinne Vien?

  So we, did you sleep in that room the second night? Cause you guys said that you were planning to.

• 1:26:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, so we stayed in the room until like 12:30 and actually later Meredith and I just, we paused heated rivalry. And then she and I were just talking and we went to lay on the bed and she did say disrespectful. So we went to our other room.

• 1:26:55Corinne Vien?

  All right. Well, yeah, you had the option to not be there. So.

• 1:26:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then in our room, cause it was the room, like basically right next to 311. Meredith kept seeing little like movements in the corner of her eye as we were going to sleep. So, and Alyssa might've come to our room. I don't know.

• 1:27:12Corinne Vien?

  Checking in on you guys, making sure you stay exactly where you are.

• 1:27:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:16Corinne Vien?

  Or maybe just like curious about your friendship too.

• 1:27:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe.

• 1:27:20Corinne Vien?

  Especially because you just showed her heated rivalry.

• 1:27:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true. She's like, what's really going on?

• 1:27:26Corinne Vien?

  And then she's watching you guys get into bed together and she's like, hmm.

• 1:27:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh man.

• 1:27:31Corinne Vien?

  This century is a little different than mine. It's better to people. Girls night.

• 1:27:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think she enjoyed it. I think she liked it.

• 1:27:39Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh, what a great stay.

• 1:27:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was so incredible. Loved it. And everyone at the hotel is so nice. Like just the, the sweetest people.

• 1:27:49Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh. Well, great. I hope people get to book it and stay there and experience it if they want. Or just like, like you said, do the tours.

• 1:27:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And if you do, you have to tell us what happens. We need to know your experience.

• 1:28:01Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. And if they show any new photos or new evidence when you get to take the tour. Cause I'm sure they're always collecting stuff.

• 1:28:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm. Cause Mr. Kirby, I guess, has a different tour than Mr. Spalding. I mean, it's the same information, but they're, they're different people. And they give different theatrical performances. Yeah. Like an amazing, amazing hotel and trip. So thank you all of you for joining us for this little addendum to the episode.

• 1:28:26Corinne Vien?

  Now, hard cut, back to the record.

• 1:28:30Corinne Vien?

  You literally recorded episode.

• 1:28:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank you, everyone, for joining us. If you have any listener stories, if you've stayed in room 311 or have any haunted experiences in Chattanooga at the Reed House Hotel, or just any paranormal experiences at all, please email us at two girls, one ghost podcast at gmail dot com. Go check out Rattled and Chook and check us on Patreon, you know, all the things.

• 1:28:53Corinne Vien?

  Shout out to Gemma.

• 1:28:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoa. You could buy the little couple name.

• 1:28:56Corinne Vien?

  Jamie and Emma. Gemma.

• 1:29:02Corinne Vien?

  Jamie and Emma for producing our podcast. Shout out to Gemma.

• 1:29:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To Gemma.

• 1:29:08Corinne Vien?

  And thank you to all of you. We love you and we will see you on the other side.

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