277. The Family Feud Murder

GARRETTS CUP COLLECTING APP: http://thecupboardapp.com/mwmh When a devoted mother is found dead in her Illinois home, a quiet community is left searching for answers. As investigators dig deeper, unsettling details begin to surface. In this episode, Payton and Garrett investigate the twists and turns of a case that shocked the nation. Links: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband NEW MERCH LINK: https://mwmhshop.com Discount Codes: https://mailchi.mp/c6f48670aeac/oh-no-media-discount-codes Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/themwmh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/murderwithmyhusband/ Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@murderwithmyhusband Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-dark/id1662304327 Listen on spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36SDVKB2MEWpFGVs9kRgQ7?si=f5224c9fd99542a7 Case Sources: https://www.oxygen.com/killer-relationship-with-faith-jenkins/crime-news/becky-tim-bliefnick-murder-ohio-2023 CBSNews.com - https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/becky-bliefnick-murder-evidence-voiced-fear-of-estranged-husband-prior-to-her-death/6/ NBCNews.com - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/-tim-bliefnick-becky-family-feud-murder-rcna123260 Legacy.com - https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/whig/name/rebecca-bliefnick-obituary?id=48787337 KHQA.com - https://khqa.com/news/local/family-of-rebecca-bliefnick-speaks-out-following-48-hours-special KillerQueensPodcast.com - https://www.killerqueenspodcast.com/the-murder-of-becky-bliefnick/ Medium.com - https://theretrobliss.medium.com/if-something-happens-to-me-it-was-my-husband-afab312ed6aa NewsChannel20.com - https://newschannel20.com/news/bliefnick-murder-trial/gallery/her-boys-were-robbed-of-a-loving-mother-becky-bliefnicks-sister-tim-bliefnick-murder-family-feud-quincy-illinois?photo=1 WGEM.com - https://www.wgem.com/2024/11/08/illinois-appellate-court-affirms-timothy-bliefnicks-conviction-sentencing/ CaseLawFindLaw.com - https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/il-court-of-appeals/116680418.html National Library of Medicine - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3876290/#:~:text=Emotional%20abuse%20can%20include%20verbal,a%20precursor%20to%20physical%20abuse. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Speaker 01

  Great meeting. Who took notes? Anyone?

• 0:34Speaker 02

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• 0:45Payton Moreland?

  You're listening to an Ono Media Podcast. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. This is Murder with My Husband. I'm Payton Moreland.

• 0:52Garrett Moreland?

  And I'm Garrett Moreland.

• 0:53Payton Moreland?

  And he's the husband.

• 0:53Garrett Moreland?

  And I'm the husband.

• 0:54Payton Moreland?

  What if one day when we're 90 years old?

• 0:58Garrett Moreland?

  And we're still doing the podcast.

• 0:59Payton Moreland?

  And we're still doing the podcast and I have to, you finally die and then I have to do.

• 1:04Garrett Moreland?

  I finally die.

• 1:05Payton Moreland?

  And then I have to do.

• 1:06Garrett Moreland?

  That was, that was crazy.

• 1:09Payton Moreland?

  No, because you're going to stay alive for so long.

• 1:13Payton Moreland?

  And then I have to.

• 1:14Garrett Moreland?

  You didn't save it. You didn't, you didn't, that was crazy.

• 1:18Payton Moreland?

  And then I have to change out your blue chair for your coffin.

• 1:21Garrett Moreland?

  Okay. I don't want to think about that at all.

• 1:24Payton Moreland?

  No, for your chamber.

• 1:25Garrett Moreland?

  I don't even, I don't even want to think about that.

• 1:27Payton Moreland?

  For your chamber because you're going to freeze your body.

• 1:30Garrett Moreland?

  That's true. I will come back one day.

• 1:32Payton Moreland?

  So it'll do, it'll be like on Batman when that guy's just frozen solid in the ice.

• 1:38Garrett Moreland?

  Who's dying first? You or me?

• 1:39Payton Moreland?

  Probably me, I hope.

• 1:41Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, baby.

• 1:42Payton Moreland?

  I hope. I don't want to live, I don't want to be 90 without you.

• 1:45Garrett Moreland?

  True. Maybe we'll die at the same time in each other's arms.

• 1:48Payton Moreland?

  Like Notebook?

• 1:49Garrett Moreland?

  Like Notebook.

• 1:50Payton Moreland?

  Okay, deal.

• 1:52Garrett Moreland?

  Okay, deal.

• 1:54Garrett Moreland?

  Thank you for being here. Thank you for supporting us. Thank you for listening every week. Thank you for downloading. Thank you for commenting, liking, subscribing, all of that. We really appreciate you guys. We love you guys. Honestly, we love doing this. We love talking to you guys every single week. And yeah, that's what I got going. What I got going.

• 2:15Payton Moreland?

  Oh, Garrett and I are both drinking our little Ollie Pops.

• 2:18Garrett Moreland?

  Not sponsored, well, not sponsored this episode.

• 2:20Payton Moreland?

  But sponsored.

• 2:21Garrett Moreland?

  Before, but we drink them all the time. Ollie Pop, not sponsored, just shouting them out because genuinely, good product.

• 2:26Payton Moreland?

  We have code?

• 2:27Garrett Moreland?

  And I like generally, yeah, this is, this is the root beer one. I genuinely like.

• 2:31Payton Moreland?

  What did you think I said?

• 2:33Garrett Moreland?

  Do you have Coke?

• 2:35Payton Moreland?

  Do we have a code?

• 2:36Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, I, I think it's husband. We'll put a link down below. I can't remember.

• 2:39Payton Moreland?

  I've been drinking the grape one every day.

• 2:42Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, not sponsored. This is just because we like it. For my 10 seconds, I am going to talk about something that is a little selfish. I really hope that you guys don't skip and listen because it's something I've been working on with.

• 2:53Payton Moreland?

  No, this is the hottest tea, you guys. This is the hottest.

• 2:56Garrett Moreland?

  Hottest tea.

• 2:57Payton Moreland?

  This is the most problematic, hottest, hottest, hottest, hot take Garrett's ever gonna drop. So listen right now.

• 3:05Garrett Moreland?

  But seriously, Fred and I have been working on this for a while. I will plug it as fast as possible. Please go and check it out if you have a second. I promise you're gonna like it. It's not close. It's not a product. It is a application, an app. It's called cupboard or cupboard. I call it cupboard. I know my business partner doesn't like that, but cupboard is how it's spelled. Or cupboard. If you don't know how to spell it, cupboard. It is an app where you can track, see upcoming releases, buy and sell all your favorite cups. So Stanley, Oola, Hydro Jug, Brewmate, Simply, Simple Modern, so on and so forth.

• 3:50Garrett Moreland?

  Please go and check it out. You can literally on the app, we've inserted every single cup that's ever been released. And you can see all the new releases and we'll even send you notifications when there's a new release. So you don't miss an opportunity to buy the cup you want from the brand you want. We're adding more brands. You can collect them. There's also a marketplace. Like I said, you can buy and sell. It is an amazing app. We've been working on it for a long time. Please go and check it out.

• 4:17Payton Moreland?

  You'd be shocked how much you can sell your cups for you guys. Because I don't know if everyone listening knows this, you might be like, what the heck? But there is a large portion of people who are very into the type of cup that they carry around. They are collectors.

• 4:35Garrett Moreland?

  I think a good example is it's basically the GOAT or StockX for cups. Go check it out. If you have any type of Stanley or Hydrojog, Wala Brewmate, so on and so forth, you're going to want to just check it out. The link will be in the description. I love you guys and thank you. And if you want a 10 seconds, that's not about that. I hate traffic. I absolutely loathe, I hate traffic, I can't stand it. And I'm trying to be more patient with it, but it makes me want to completely rage. There's nothing makes me want to rage except traffic.

• 5:13Garrett Moreland?

  Got it off my chest. I love you guys. I feel a lot better now.

• 5:19Garrett Moreland?

  That's what I got. All right. Hopping into today's case, I know Peyton's got a good one for me. Well, I don't know, but I say good one, but that's the wrong way to put it because they're all good. In a true crime way, they're all sad. And here we are. Let's talk about this case and see what we got.

• 5:40Payton Moreland?

  Our sources for this episode are oxygen.com, CBSnews.com, NBCnews.com, legacy.com, KHQA.com, Killer Queens Podcast, Medium.com, News Channel 20, WGM, case law, findlaw.com, and National Library of Medicine. Okay, so when you hear the words abusive relationship, there are a lot of things that probably come to mind. Horror stories about violent arguments, someone showing up with bruises on their arms or face, late night calls to 911. But abusive partnerships can come in a lot more forms than that. And it's something that's not always talked about. There's stalking abuse, financial, and probably one of the most common and not openly talked about

• 6:25Payton Moreland?

  forms of abuse, emotional abuse. Sometimes it starts small, taking cracks at a person's self-esteem, insults or insinuations that put another person down. But over time, that can grow. It can be full-on humiliation, gaslighting, name-calling, threats, failure to respect someone's privacy, before isolating them from everyone they know and love. And the reason why emotional abuse is considered so dangerous is because it's often a precursor to physical abuse. And when the signs are ignored or downplayed for too long, it can end up in a life taken far too soon.

• 7:08Payton Moreland?

  So let's head now to the quiet little town of Quincy, Illinois. We are right along the Mississippi River, where Rebecca, AKA Becky Postle, is born in November of 1981. Now, growing up in Quincy, Becky seemed to have a pretty idyllic childhood in the 80s. She and her older sister Sarah had great memories of playing outside, going fishing, chasing frogs, riding their bikes through the neighborhood to their friends' houses, pretty much a suburban, white picket fence dream. And Becky also becomes a star student. She graduates from her high school as the valedictorian.

• 7:49Payton Moreland?

  She goes on to get a bachelor's degree in biological science at Quincy University, where she graduates cum laude. After that, she gets a job working as a pharmaceutical sales rep, where she ends up being one of the top performers. So all of this to say, by the time she's an adult with an adult job, Becky is honestly a real catch. And it certainly doesn't hurt that she's also beautiful, she's incredibly friendly and outgoing, and she's a completely selfless person, which is probably what drew a former college classmate to her, was a guy named Tim Bleeffnick.

• 8:27Payton Moreland?

  Now Becky and Tim met during their time at Quincy University. But it wasn't until two years after they graduated that they then reconnected and fell for one another. Tim was actually a star on the college's football team with these all-American handsome looks. In fact, he was so good, he landed a spot in Quincy University's Sports Hall of Fame in 2019.

• 8:53Garrett Moreland?

  Did he play in the NFL?

• 8:54Payton Moreland?

  After graduation, he hung up his cleats and Tim found work as a salesman in the recycling industry. And after proposing to Becky, the couple decided to forego a lavish honeymoon and instead used that money to buy their first home together.

• 9:12Garrett Moreland?

  Good idea.

• 9:13Payton Moreland?

  Get married, buy a home. And it was a decision that didn't come as a shock to those who knew them. If there was one thing about this couple, it was how practical they both seemed to be in their decision-making, like individually and together. And to them, preparing for their future and their family was extremely important. And to many, their marriage seemed like a dream. They had two little boys pretty quickly after they got married. But the couple still always knew how to find time to enjoy each other. People said Becky and Tim were always the first two out on the dance floor. They were always the life of the party. But after their second son was born, Becky was looking for what to do next in her life.

• 9:55Payton Moreland?

  And while Becky liked working in the medical field, she'd always dreamed of having a more hands-on approach. She wanted to work with patients more directly, really making a difference in people's lives. And so that's when Becky decided, okay, I've had my kids and now I'm going to go to nursing school. Becky also figured this was a great way to start making more money for the family, which Tim, her husband, seemed to be on board with. So Becky juggled being a mom and going back to school full-time for her nursing degree. This is something that couldn't have been easy, especially since during her senior year, she actually gave birth to a third son. And throughout all of that, Becky still used

• 10:36Payton Moreland?

  the little free time she had to volunteer and give back to her community in the way she could. Whether that was helping out at her kids' school, the local animal rescue, at the stables, working with therapeutic writing services, Becky was literally a superhuman. And when she finally graduated, she got the job she always dreamed of having. Becky became a nurse in the surgery unit before being transferred to the ER at Blessing Hospital. But that's when things kind of got challenging for Becky. Her intense work schedule made it harder for her to do everything for the kids. And Tim wasn't as hands-on of a father

• 11:19Payton Moreland?

  as she was a mother. So when Tim wouldn't step in, Becky was forced to go from full-time to part-time in her career that she had just spent years working towards, just to make sure that someone was there for their kids. And this naturally began to cause some resentment and contention in their marriage. Becky told her friends it kind of started with little things, like him chastising her for not cleaning the house, despite the fact she was working all night and then caring for the kids all day. Some of Becky's friends joked that she was more like a single mom doing everything for the household while Tim was just out

• 11:58Payton Moreland?

  and living his own life. In fact, Tim even went on a game show in 2019 without Becky. She was too busy with work and the kids to attend, so he appeared on Family Feud with his side of the family for three different episodes. What? Yes.

• 12:17Garrett Moreland?

  I wish I could be on Family Feud.

• 12:19Payton Moreland?

  It was during that game show appearance that Tim showed some early signs of trouble. And this might just be people looking into it.

• 12:27Garrett Moreland?

  Reading into it too much.

• 12:28Payton Moreland?

  But let me tell you about it. Okay, so on one of the episodes, remember Becky's just worked super hard to become a nurse, but now she's also working night shifts, taking care of the kids. They are having some fighting going on and Tim is now playing Family Feud. And Steve Harvey asks the question, what do you regret doing on your wedding day?

• 12:50Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, no.

• 12:51Payton Moreland?

  Now, keep in mind, you're guessing what you think the majority of people would say.

• 12:56Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, can I guess what I think he's gonna say? And I've never, I've never heard this case.

• 13:01Payton Moreland?

  Yeah. So remember, Tim's saying what he thinks the rest of the people would say, but it's obviously coming out of his own mouth and came up with in his brain. So go ahead. What do you think he said?

• 13:11Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, nevermind. I thought he was gonna say something along the lines of, I wish I would have shoved cake in my wife's face or something.

• 13:17Payton Moreland?

  You think that's what the majority people?

• 13:19Garrett Moreland?

  No, no, no. I thought it was a real, I'm sorry, I misunderstood. This is the game show question and him not just asking, what do you regret?

• 13:27Payton Moreland?

  No, yeah. So Steve asks Tim, the way Family Feud is played.

• 13:31Garrett Moreland?

  Yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 13:32Payton Moreland?

  They interview a bunch of people and he's supposed to guess the majority answer.

• 13:37Garrett Moreland?

  What does he say?

• 13:39Payton Moreland?

  He says that he, his guess that one of the most popular answers to that question was quote, saying, I do.

• 13:48Speaker 05

  The biggest mistake you made at your wedding. Honey, I love you, but said I do.

• 13:54Garrett Moreland?

  Okay.

• 13:56Payton Moreland?

  It was a comment that the audience just immediately busted up laughing, especially when it appeared as one of the top answers on the board.

• 14:04Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, it was?

• 14:05Payton Moreland?

  Yes. Still, Steve Harvey said something to Tim like, geez, you're gonna have hell to pay when you get home. And while Tim might have just played this whole thing off as a joke, like, I was just trying to win the game. I just figured that would be one of the answers. It was a comment that like, due to the climate in their current marriage, everyone that knew them in real life was just a little bit. Like it just stuck with them a little bit. Everyone was kind of talking about it.

• 14:35Garrett Moreland?

  Yep.

• 14:35Payton Moreland?

  Because it was clear there was some truth to it. There was a lot of tension brewing between them at home. And then 2020 hits and everyone is forced to stay inside. Making things much worse for this couple.

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• 16:43Payton Moreland?

  Simply Safe, ahead of crime in real time. So with hospitals all over the world being super crowded, duty definitely called for Becky too. And with nowhere to escape to, Tim and Becky were spending a lot more time together at home, indoors with their three kids. And it was around this time with Becky, who's trying to be a nurse, but also homeschool her children. It's around that time that Tim starts talking about getting a divorce. He said they just couldn't see eye to eye on most things. He felt it was time to move on. And this was something that Becky adamantly did not want. She thought that they should go to couples counseling first, try and work it out.

• 17:27Payton Moreland?

  But it seemed like Tim was once again getting his way. By 2021, he had moved out of their house and gotten a place a few blocks away, so he could still be close to the boys. And while it wasn't what Becky initially wanted, her friends and family said she actually seemed relieved to be kind of doing her own life without Tim. And as the divorce proceedings went on, Becky even met someone new. So they're separated, they are going through with the divorce, and she meets someone. It's another guy who was also in the healthcare industry. So they continue dating through 2022 and into 2023, even as the divorce continued to stretch on as Tim and Becky were ironing out finances, custody, everything else.

• 18:12Payton Moreland?

  But then that February of 2023, everything changed. That month, 41-year-old Becky had just gotten surgery for something, and sources don't say what it was for, but I know that by the 22nd of February, she was at home recovering. And it seems during that time, 40-year-old Tim had taken their three boys, because Becky was getting surgery. The boys are now 12, 10, and 5 years old, and they are staying with him for a few days at his house. Now, on the morning of the 23rd, Tim dropped the three kids off at school. The plan was for Becky to then pick them up after school, for them to finally come back to her place.

• 18:54Payton Moreland?

  But that afternoon at around 3:00 PM Becky's dad gets a text from Tim, his ex-son-in-law, if you will, and it reads, quote, "Can you please call Becky and ask her to tell me when she's getting the boys today? I had them last night because she said she was sick, but she hasn't responded to any of the messages I sent today, and I don't know if she's still sick, or if she's coming to get them, or what's happening. I can keep the children again tonight if needed, but I just need her to let me know what she wants to do." Now, it seems like Tim sent this because Becky never showed up to the school to pick the children up, which is why Tim is now reaching out to Becky's dad. So Becky's dad says, "Okay,

• 19:37Payton Moreland?

  I'm gonna drive over to Becky's house and check on her, because she said she was sick, and then she didn't show up to get the kids." And when he shows up, he finds the front door of Becky's house is unlocked. So he calls her name, he gets no answer, he goes to the garage to see if her car is there, and it is. So this is when he's like, "Hey, I gotta go inside, because if she's sick and she's not answering, and the car's here." Makes his way upstairs to the bedroom, and he peeks inside. He goes into the bathroom of the primary bedroom and finds his daughter Becky's lifeless body on the bathroom floor.

• 20:15Garrett Moreland?

  That is something I hope no parent ever has to go through, because I just, ugh.

• 20:23Payton Moreland?

  Now, I'm gonna paint a picture of what he found, because it wasn't like he just saw her on the floor unconscious and realized she was dead. Becky had been shot to death, not once, not twice, not three times, 14 times.

• 20:41Garrett Moreland?

  Holy crap.

• 20:43Payton Moreland?

  So you have to imagine the amount of blood and just what her body looked like.

• 20:47Garrett Moreland?

  Do you know what he was shot with? Or, sorry, do you know what she was shot with?

• 20:51Payton Moreland?

  Yes. There were nine-millimeter shell casings found.

• 20:57Garrett Moreland?

  Because depending on the, I guess unless he had an extended mag, like, I'm wondering if, depending on the gun he had and extended mag he had, he would have had to put another mag inside gun.

• 21:13Payton Moreland?

  He or she.

• 21:14Garrett Moreland?

  Sorry, he or she?

• 21:16Payton Moreland?

  Yeah, a reload, which is just absolutely insane when you empty a gun on someone and then reload it.

• 21:21Garrett Moreland?

  He just clipped and then had to put another clip in there.

• 21:23Payton Moreland?

  Like, that's crazy. That's definitely premeditated at that point.

• 21:26Garrett Moreland?

  Absolutely insane.

• 21:27Payton Moreland?

  So, this is what he stumbles into, 14 bullet holes in his daughter. And since her father doesn't have his phone on him, he actually runs to the neighbor's house to call 911. Now, when police arrive, they quickly find a few important things about the scene of the crime. I mean, this is a murder. Becky has been murdered. And first, they noticed that the intruder entered the home by prying open the upstairs window in one of the kids' bedrooms. So it's not like this person was like, came in through the front door. They came in through one of the kids' window. They also find that the door to Becky's room has been kicked open aggressively and was actually broken in some parts.

• 22:10Payton Moreland?

  It also appears that the intruder chased Becky from her bedroom into the bathroom, where they then shot her to death. They also find Becky's phone behind the bathroom door. And they can tell the time of the murder because at 1:11 in the morning, Becky tried to dial 911 on her cellphone. So, police are thinking-

• 22:35Garrett Moreland?

  So sick.

• 22:37Payton Moreland?

  This person breaks in, kicks in Becky's bedroom door. Becky hears it. She gets up. She's running to her bathroom while also trying to dial 911. Presses call, but it only lasts 10 seconds before hanging up. And that was probably because the intruder had finally gotten to her and was now attacking her.

• 22:58Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, I can't. I, I just can't.

• 23:01Payton Moreland?

  The phone was probably knocked out of her hand, hung up. So, police also quickly rule out a burglary because nothing appears to be stolen. The neighbors say that they didn't hear or see anything suspicious, but the intruder did leave some more evidence behind. There was a partial shoe print near the window that was broken into.

• 23:24Payton Moreland?

  That they believe the intruder came in through and then also there were eight spent nine millimeter shell casings like I said, but there were eight of them. And they also found small pieces of what looked like a plastic bag near Becky's body, but it wasn't like a full plastic bag. But maybe one of the most significant clues was the way Becky had died because as I mentioned, Becky was shot 14 times. There was actually a 15th shot that was fired, but it missed her body. Now Becky was shot through her hands, her arms, her lungs, her spine. But none of those wounds would have been like immediately fatal,

• 24:08Payton Moreland?

  which is why the medical examiner actually believes that Becky was shot 14 times, 15 actual shots rang out and then was just left there on the floor bleeding to death.

• 24:21Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 24:22Payton Moreland?

  So this tells detectives, nothing's missing. This was most likely not a robbery. It was probably a crime of passion that seems pretty violent. So the next step for detectives is to go around the neighborhood, see if anyone's home security systems caught anything on tape because this is 2023. And they find that Becky's next door neighbors, the Hyman's, have a security camera on the side of their home that actually points directly at Becky's driveway leading along the side of her house. Now, the camera didn't find anything on the night of the murder, but it did pick something up the night before.

• 25:02Payton Moreland?

  So the night before she's murdered, on this camera at around 1:05 a.m., there is a person walking down the driveway towards the back of Becky's house. And then that same person is seen walking away back down the driveway in the opposite direction 48 minutes later. Now, when the Hyman's find out police found this footage, they aren't that surprised and they tell them a little over a week earlier. On Valentine's Day, the same thing happened in the middle of the night. Their cameras caught someone walking into Becky's backyard.

• 25:43Payton Moreland?

  So they had actually texted her a week before and said, hey, someone's on our camera, like in the middle of the night poking around your house. And Becky tells them, I didn't see anything. I like nothing's missing, but she says, I actually thought I heard voices in my yard and my motion lights went on in the middle of the night. But she's like, then I was like, maybe I'm just being paranoid. At the time, they sort of figured it might've just been someone who was like stealing things out of people's yards. But now with Becky shot to death, these two moments caught on camera of someone walking around Becky's home in the middle of the night has a whole new meaning. The problem with this footage, though, is it's grainy and dark. You can't make out the person at all.

• 26:28Payton Moreland?

  You can't, you can't even tell if it's male or female, though police suspect it's a man wearing a hoodie, but they don't end the search there. They keep gathering footage from the area and they find something else of note. A surveillance video taken from a bus depot right near Becky's home. Someone is seen on a bike riding in the direction of Becky's house around the time of the murder and then back in the opposite direction again shortly after she had placed that attempted 911 call. Now, this strikes police as odd for a few reasons. The first is in February, it is freezing in Illinois and people don't ride their bikes around really at 1 a.m. in the middle of the winter.

• 27:14Payton Moreland?

  And that's when detectives start to think, okay, this is probably the same person that we saw on those other nights. Um, but they just didn't go in front of that camera the night of the murder. Again, the footage is so grainy, you can't really tell who's riding the bike, but it does have one distinguishing feature.

• 27:32Garrett Moreland?

  Um, my cameras are high quality. I'm going to know exactly who you are if you come anywhere within probably a hundred feet of my house, 50 feet, a thousand feet. Don't come near my house.

• 27:43Payton Moreland?

  I mean, I will say our cameras have like night vision.

• 27:45Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, we got, we got, nah, don't even try it.

• 27:48Payton Moreland?

  We actually solved a neighborhood mystery with our cameras once.

• 27:52Garrett Moreland?

  Story for another day.

• 27:54Payton Moreland?

  Okay, so police notice, okay, well, one thing we can tell about this bicycle that's riding on the night of the murder just so happens to be pulling in and then leaving right after the 911 call, Brian Kohlberger.

• 28:09Payton Moreland?

  They noticed that the bicycle doesn't have any reflectors on the wheels. The detail that police feel confident will come in handy when searching for this bike. So in the meantime, police are beginning to look at those closest to Becky. And when they download the contents of her cell phone, they find that the last person she spoke to over text was her new boyfriend, the one she had been seeing for a while. But they find that most of their exchanges are pretty routine. They talk about their days, how Becky's feeling. It's nothing out of the ordinary. So they quickly rule him out as a person of interest. But they are finding some suspicious text messages on her phone regarding her soon to be ex-husband, Tim. And they notice a text that was sent to her sister Sarah a little more than a year before her death.

• 28:55Payton Moreland?

  It reads, quote, "If something ever happens to me, please make sure the number one person of interest is Tim, as that is who would do something to me. I'm putting this in writing that I am fearful he will somehow harm me.

• 29:08Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 29:09Payton Moreland?

  Come after me or will try to do something to me that takes me away from the kids or the kids away from me."

• 29:15Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, that is heartbreaking.

• 29:17Payton Moreland?

  So police discover this text, and even though it was a year earlier, they quickly make Tim a person of interest in this case because it's, I mean, if someone says, hey, this person's out to get me, and then they turn up dead. And it turns out that the divorce between Tim and Becky was actually a lot uglier than anyone ever even thought.

• 29:39Garrett Moreland?

  Which is ironic, considering you were saying how he's the one who wanted to get divorced, and she didn't.

• 29:45Payton Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 29:45Garrett Moreland?

  But I'm going to guess what happened before, I mean, I guess you're going to tell us, but is that she didn't want to, then she ended up relieved, then she ended up the one that was seeming like she was thriving. And it probably pissed him off because, you know, little fragile ego there.

• 30:02Payton Moreland?

  She's like, no, don't leave. And then he leaves and she's like, whoa, this is amazing. So friends of Becky's say, one of the biggest reasons Tim wanted the divorce in the first place was because he felt he could no longer control Becky.

• 30:17Garrett Moreland?

  Oh, hey.

• 30:19Payton Moreland?

  And this had to do with the fact that she had decided to chase this new career.

• 30:24Garrett Moreland?

  Making her own money.

• 30:25Payton Moreland?

  This new demanding job she was giving a lot of hours to as a nurse. And he used the divorce as a way to try and take back some of that control. So when she was like, no, no, let's not get divorced. That actually fueled him.

• 30:39Garrett Moreland?

  For sure.

• 30:39Payton Moreland?

  Because he was like, well, now I'm back in control. Like I'm the deciding factor.

• 30:43Garrett Moreland?

  Yes.

• 30:43Payton Moreland?

  In fact, a lot of people said Tim emotionally abused Becky, at least towards the end of their marriage. In a way that stripped her of a lot of her peace and happiness. One time, Tim got so angry at Becky for quote, not doing things he had been asking for 10 years. That he went out and cut down her favorite tree in their yard just to make her mad. Which just so you know, if you ever touch my trees.

• 31:09Garrett Moreland?

  That is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

• 31:12Payton Moreland?

  So mean.

• 31:13Garrett Moreland?

  So manipulative.

• 31:14Payton Moreland?

  And then she's gonna seem crazy because she sat over a tree. You know what I mean? And it's just like, that is so manipulative.

• 31:21Garrett Moreland?

  Crazy to me that there's people out there who think and act like that.

• 31:25Payton Moreland?

  He's gonna be like, oh, it was dead. You know what I mean? Like, I just already know there was gonna be gaslighting happening. And then she is gonna feel insane.

• 31:33Garrett Moreland?

  Crazy.

• 31:34Payton Moreland?

  Ugh. That's so mean. So there was another time that he threatened to get rid of a family pet that she loved. When she didn't do what he wanted. So he, she was basically like, you're not doing this, then we just need to get rid of this pet. Just very manipulative. He would show up at her work, videotaping her, trying to provoke her into an argument. He lashed out at her once for not adhering to a strict workout regimen. Just because he had told her that he didn't love how her body was looking and he wanted her to look a certain way. So he set up this workout routine for her and then she wasn't sticking to it. And he got really angry at her.

• 32:16Payton Moreland?

  Uh, this was actually a fight that ended with him almost hitting Becky and one of her sons. Who was there for the fight with a garden hose. And then when he finally did file for divorce, he fought for full custody of their kids. So just another way, just like, almost like he didn't even want the divorce. He just wanted a tactic to have control and manipulate and hurt.

• 32:40Garrett Moreland?

  So exactly what I said, everything's over. She moves on, finds a new boyfriend and he has zero control and is pissed off.

• 32:50Payton Moreland?

  And so they separate, right? They separate.

• 32:53Garrett Moreland?

  That's so crazy.

• 32:54Payton Moreland?

  They're getting divorced and then he starts just showing back up at their house, walking in and then taking things out of the house, including a nine millimeter pistol Becky had once bought him. Then slowly but surely, things between them get more and more aggressive. There was one scenario where Tim actually threw a tray of food across the room in front of their kids. He also punched a hole in the wall of Becky's house. And that eventually evolved into another situation where Tim put his hands on Becky and shoved her during an argument in front of the kids. And I do just want to remind everyone that officially,

• 33:38Payton Moreland?

  physical violence to items in a home in front of other people who live in that home is defined as domestic abuse because it's a threat. It's a like, look what I can do to this wall. That's how much anger and force I could do to your face next. That's what it's saying to the people who live with you.

• 33:58Payton Moreland?

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• 34:40Payton Moreland?

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• 35:22Payton Moreland?

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• 36:03Payton Moreland?

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• 36:46Payton Moreland?

  just let them know it was Murder With My Husband that sent you. Please don't skip that survey. Let them know it's the best way to support the show. Around this time, Becky hears about one of her former colleagues who was killed by her spouse. And when she heard this, someone in her life was killed by their husband, that scared her enough to send that text to her sister. That's what like- made her send the text because apparently she was like this kind of seems like my life like I feel like this could happen to me too and that's when Becky's sister Sarah recommended hey you need to go get help from a domestic abuse organization there are like things they can do to protect you now whether or not she took that advice is unclear but Becky did file for

• 37:26Payton Moreland?

  an order of protection against Tim after that and there's two ways that a abuser is going to respond to that number one they're going to break it or number two they're going to turn around and file a restraining order against you and that's exactly what Tim did he reversed Uno to make her life hard but here's the problem because of a lot of the abuse Becky listed on that request was just emotional and psychological and she and Tim were in the middle of a heated divorce the judge wasn't really taking this request very seriously she's like this is probably just a tactic we see a lot of times in divorces where they're just trying to hurt each other she

• 38:08Payton Moreland?

  didn't she didn't think that Tim was an actual threat to Becky

• 38:12Garrett Moreland?

  okay but if the judge was like hey he cut my she he cut my tree down because I don't follow a workout routine

• 38:20Payton Moreland?

  this is what I'm saying Tim probably like rephrased that to make her seem insane

• 38:26Garrett Moreland?

  you know that's wild I just yeah that's wild

• 38:28Payton Moreland?

  that's emotional and psychological abuse at its finest they end up denying her request and Tim's so no restraining orders now according to one of the prosecutors on this case protection orders like this are quote virtually impossible to obtain from a judge during a heated divorce because like I said a lot of times people use it as a tactic in a divorce just to try to get custody of kids so it's it's a lot harder to get one

• 38:54Garrett Moreland?

  I understand I understand

• 38:55Payton Moreland?

  but obviously in Becky's case this is an extremely serious matter one that probably should have been taken into consideration the judge did however order that Tim and Becky stay away from each other's homes except for when handing over the kids and they ordered Tim to give back the pistol that he stole from Becky's house and this is something he never ended up doing because she was like hey he's just coming over to the house and taking things including a gun And they were like, you gotta give that back. He never did. So hearing now that Becky was denied a restraining order in the months before her death, the police are like, dude, Tim's our guy. The problem is connecting him to the crime, something that gets a little easier when a few days into the investigation, they find a bike on the side of the road and it's just like the

• 39:40Payton Moreland?

  one that they saw in the surveillance video. It is missing its reflectors from the wheels. What's more interesting is where they find it because this bike is abandoned only half a mile away from Tim's house. He said, I'm not walking a full mile. I'm just gonna go dump it. Now, I will say Becky and Tim lived only a few blocks from each other. So that also means the suspect could have ditched it leaving the scene of the crime and it still could have been by Tim's home. However, police don't think it's a coincidence. They get a search warrant for Tim's house on March 1st and they go through his computer. They find that he had recently bought a bike on Facebook Marketplace under a fake name and it's the exact same blue bike without

• 40:22Payton Moreland?

  reflectors on its wheels. So they find a few other interesting things on his computer too. Searches for phrases like, quote, "How to pry open a door with a crowbar? How to wash gunpowder off my hands?" Quincy Police Department response time.

• 40:37Garrett Moreland?

  I don't really have much to say about that. I'm just glad it's gonna get caught.

• 40:40Payton Moreland?

  I don't know. Maybe because it's like, kind of a newer thing that...

• 40:45Garrett Moreland?

  I think a lot of it is when it's... It makes sense to me because even when people know they shouldn't be doing stuff, they still do stuff.

• 40:55Payton Moreland?

  When they're this egotistical.

• 40:57Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, like when you just are like, I don't care. Like, people still are just going to do bad things. Like, they just think...

• 41:04Payton Moreland?

  But he's obviously trying to get away with it. "How to wash gunpowder off my hands."

• 41:08Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah, I just think you just don't, I don't think you think it through that.

• 41:11Payton Moreland?

  He's literally Googling "how to get away with murder" and the Google of "how to get away with murder" is gonna be the thing that puts him away.

• 41:18Garrett Moreland?

  It's so ironic, because that happens all the time.

• 41:20Payton Moreland?

  This is what I'm saying, like... You know how it was like, oh, they can now test DNA and fingerprints. So let's stop, let's wear gloves and stop. Okay, not let's criminals are saying, let's stop.

• 41:30Garrett Moreland?

  And they still don't wear gloves. Yeah.

• 41:31Payton Moreland?

  Yeah, but it's, it's like the same thing with the computer where it's like, how many computer suspicious computer searches are going to be brought up case after case after case before people start, stop Googling stuff on the computer when they're murdering someone.

• 41:44Garrett Moreland?

  Probably never.

• 41:45Payton Moreland?

  Not that I want them to stop, but it's just one of those things. So there were also searches for how to make homemade gun silencers. Also, this is really creepy. Remember how someone had been casing Becky's house on Valentine's Day a few weeks before she died? Well, that night, her new boyfriend was parked in her driveway and later that evening, Tim Googled VIN numbers and license plates for her boyfriend's vehicle. Not just once, but 200 times, 200 times he Googled this, which means it had to be him in the surveillance video on Valentine's Day, Googling his ex-wife's boyfriend's car, walking around the house.

• 42:28Payton Moreland?

  And when it comes to evidence, it's not just Tim's computer that's telling the story. Police also find a crowbar and an empty gun safe in Tim's bedroom where they discover a bunch of spent shell casings, ones that will later come up as a match for the gun that was used to kill Becky.

• 42:46Garrett Moreland?

  This is open and shut.

• 42:47Payton Moreland?

  So 12 days later, on March 13th, police finally get a warrant to arrest him and charge him with his ex-wife's murder. Now, a lot of people said Tim was clearly declining mentally and physically after the divorce. His appearance was looking more haggard and less put together. He was becoming more hateful and vindictive. Yeah, because when an abuser start stops losing.

• 43:07Garrett Moreland?

  Power.

• 43:08Payton Moreland?

  Power.

• 43:09Garrett Moreland?

  Yep, that's what happens.

• 43:10Payton Moreland?

  They are mentally going to decline. It was obvious even to those who didn't know him that well, that something was going on with Tim after or during the divorce. But there might've been a reason why he snapped when he did. Turns out, the couple's final divorce hearing was scheduled for a week after Becky was murdered. That wasn't the issue, though. It was that Becky was planning to bring up a supposed family secret at that hearing. That her father-in-law, Tim's dad, named Ray, should not be around their kids anymore because he had a supposed history of, quote, "perversion and abusing minor children." So at this hearing, Becky was gonna say, "I don't want the kids around grandpa."

• 43:52Garrett Moreland?

  Hundred percent valid. That shouldn't happen.

• 43:53Payton Moreland?

  Becky wasn't claiming that Ray had abused their own children, but he had been accused of it in the past, many years earlier, with someone else's children. And so she wanted him to stay away. In fact, a few of them would be witnesses called to the stand during those divorce proceedings. And even more shocking, when Becky expressed her concerns about the issue to Tim in the past, he told her he wasn't worried because their kids were boys and his father's supposed choice of victim was female.

• 44:28Garrett Moreland?

  That's...

• 44:29Payton Moreland?

  So she said, "Hey, I'm not really comfortable with our kids being around your dad because he's a pedophile." And he's, "Oh, don't worry, honey. He likes girls, not boys."

• 44:38Garrett Moreland?

  There's just no way that I...

• 44:40Payton Moreland?

  What?

• 44:41Garrett Moreland?

  I just can't. Sometimes when we do these cases, I just sit here and think, "There's no way there are humans that think, act, and do some of these things." Like, you're telling me...

• 44:53Payton Moreland?

  He's delusional.

• 44:54Garrett Moreland?

  These are real people. Like, these are real people, not made-up stories. And this is absolutely mind-blowing.

• 45:02Payton Moreland?

  Also, poor Becky, because the story and the examples that we gather from these sources is so limited. We get not even a fourth of what Becky and Tim's life was like. And so if we're getting these examples, she was so psychologically abused. Because even him turning that around about his dad is so confusing for the brain. Now, Ray, however, has denied the accusations wholeheartedly and mentioned that he had never been charged with any criminal offense. But many think that because this information was gonna be exposed and Tim knew it,

• 45:41Payton Moreland?

  he did not want Becky to divorce him and he didn't want her to drag his dad's name through the mud. So he tried to cover it up, especially because in the hours before Becky was killed earlier that day, Tim had brought a basketball hoop over to his father's house with the intention of having his children over there more in the future. So he's about to go to a hearing where his ex-wife is gonna ask for the kids not to be around his father. And before he goes and kills his ex-wife, he brings over a basketball hoop, hoop, so the kids can play at grandpa's house.

• 46:18Garrett Moreland?

  Cool.

• 46:19Payton Moreland?

  Of course, none of this helps Tim's case for murder, although he does try to pull the alibi card. He says he was home with his three kids at the time of the murder. There was no way he would have left them alone to go kill their mother. But it seems that's exactly what happened. Tim saw an opportunity in the middle of the night. He had gone over there multiple times before. He knew that Becky was home alone and was recovering from a surgery, and he preyed on her vulnerability. Now, thinking it might work to his advantage, Tim invoked his right to a speedy trial and was in court three months to the date after the murder, which we don't see very often. So he goes to trial in May of 2023. The defense tries to say there's not really any concrete evidence tying Tim to the scene of the crime. They say it doesn't

• 47:02Payton Moreland?

  make sense that he would scale the home to the second-story bedroom and break in through one of the kids' rooms, that his DNA was never found at the scene, that the shoe print found in the home didn't match a single pair of shoes found at Tim's house. But the prosecution feels differently. Earlier, I mentioned how there were little pieces of plastic bags found near Becky's body. Turns out, the assailant actually shot through a plastic bag, either as a way to catch-

• 47:28Garrett Moreland?

  Gunpowder.

• 47:29Payton Moreland?

  -the shell casings, or muffle the sound.

• 47:32Garrett Moreland?

  Oh.

• 47:33Payton Moreland?

  And remember what Tim-

• 47:34Garrett Moreland?

  Just kidding.

• 47:35Payton Moreland?

  Remember what Tim was found Googling? How to make a homemade silencer?

• 47:38Garrett Moreland?

  Yeah.

• 47:39Payton Moreland?

  By the way, those bags at the scene came from an Aldi supermarket, and they found tons of those back at Tim's house. There was also DNA found under Becky's fingernails. DNA that experts said they couldn't conclusively rule out as Tim's, but perhaps the literal smoking gun was the shell casings found at Tim's home. I mean, they are an identical match to the ones that had killed Becky. And while the gun itself was nowhere to be found, they felt confident that it came from the same gun Tim had took from Becky's home. So as trial only lasted six days, the jury returned after four hours and had a clear verdict. They found 40-year-old Tim guilty of first degree murder. Three months later, on August 11th, Tim returned to court

• 48:24Payton Moreland?

  for a sentencing hearing. After being told he would be spending the rest of his life in prison without the possibility of parole, the judge said to Tim, quote, "Mr. Bleeffnick, you researched this murder. You planned this murder. You practiced this murder. You broke into her house and you shot her one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 times. I don't know how long it took you to do that. Some of those shots were fired while she was lying on the ground. And you did all of that while your children were upstairs at your house, laying snug in their beds." Tim has since tried to appeal this conviction.

• 49:05Garrett Moreland?

  Get someone. Nevermind, I'm not gonna say it. Keep going, sorry.

• 49:09Payton Moreland?

  And in February of this year, he was denied. Since his conviction, Tim has not had any contact with his sons that has been reported on.

• 49:17Garrett Moreland?

  Good.

• 49:17Payton Moreland?

  Instead, their three boys went to live with Becky's parents.

• 49:21Garrett Moreland?

  Poor kids.

• 49:22Payton Moreland?

  And her sister Sarah.

• 49:23Garrett Moreland?

  Gosh.

• 49:24Payton Moreland?

  You can't help but wonder, though, what would have happened if she had gotten a restraining order? Maybe nothing. Maybe something.

• 49:31Garrett Moreland?

  Probably nothing.

• 49:32Payton Moreland?

  Becky recognized that the abuse she received from Tim, while mostly emotional and psychological, was still very much abuse and still very much a sign of a possible murder. Like, it didn't have to be physical for it to get taken that far. She tried to seek help for it, and it's the law's job to offer protection, to recognize that abuse does come in many forms. And just because it's psychological, doesn't make it any less dangerous. But in this case, the law failed, and because of it, Becky's story has now become a cautionary tell. And if this case impacted you today, you can find the Becky Bleeffnick Memorial

• 50:14Payton Moreland?

  and Support Fund on gofundme.com to make a donation to her family. And that is the case of Becky Bleeffnick.

• 50:23Garrett Moreland?

  Horrible. Sad for the family. Sad for the kids. Another case where I don't think life in prison is good enough and kind of all I have to say about it.

• 50:33Payton Moreland?

  It's so hard because I really do think that emotional abuse is not like acknowledged enough about how it is dangerous, just like physical abuse in some cases. Like thi- this man went from only shoving her once to shooting her 14 times. That's a pretty fast escalation. There had to be an amount of disrespect in his mind for her before that. All right, you guys, that is our case for this week and we will see you next time with another one. I love it.

• 51:06Garrett Moreland?

  And I hate it.

• 51:07Payton Moreland?

  Goodbye.

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