Encounters x315 - Sleep Paralysis Stories

You wake up, but you can’t move. Your chest feels heavy, your voice won’t work, and there’s a sense that you’re not alone. Sleep paralysis, for many of our listeners, is where their most unsettling experiences begin. Stories include: A listener who repeatedly wakes during paralysis contorted into impossible positions, as if something has physically moved them A couple whose sleep experiences begin to overlap, as one partner’s recurring entity bleeds into the other’s nightmares A childhood bedroom transforming into a western saloon during a vivid episode A shadowy figure that restrains a listener and destroys a protective necklace A sleep paralysis encounter escalates when a listener is dragged across the bed Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited by Jaimi Ryan and produced by Emma Leventer and Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:08Corinne Vien?

  Bonjour now.

• 2:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Were you hoping to sleep well tonight?

• 2:12Corinne Vien?

  Or go to France? Cause you're not gonna do either.

• 2:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're not gonna do either. We can prom- well, maybe you're going to France.

• 2:18Corinne Vien?

  That's Italian.

• 2:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 2:20Corinne Vien?

  Bonjour now.

• 2:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Guys. Well, you kinda like said bonjour. And then no. So if you're going to France or Italy. No, you're not. I mean, maybe you are.

• 2:31Corinne Vien?

  Maybe you are.

• 2:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe you are.

• 2:32Corinne Vien?

  We're not.

• 2:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're not. Uh, we are gonna tell you stories because this is a podcast called?

• 2:39Corinne Vien?

  Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 2:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two Girls, One Ghost. And we are your ghostesses. I am Sabrina, that is Corinne. I did the opposite and I didn't like how it felt. This is fun. If you're watching, we have a little

• 2:51Corinne Vien?

  Skeleton.

• 2:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Half-bodied skeleton, missing some limbs.

• 2:55Corinne Vien?

  Still a mystery how he became half of a person.

• 2:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 3:00Corinne Vien?

  I sat on his hand, that's how he's missing one hand. I broke it.

• 3:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He broke his fingers. But yeah, we're here. And we're gonna tell you ghost stories specifically about a topic that, oh my god, is our inbox flooded with these emails.

• 3:15Corinne Vien?

  It's unfortunate for you guys, but amazing for us.

• 3:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it's also something I experienced for the very first time and I don't recommend.

• 3:23Corinne Vien?

  Nope.

• 3:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're talking sleep paralysis.

• 3:28Corinne Vien?

  Sleep.

• 3:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're talking sleep paralysis.

• 3:31Corinne Vien?

  Sleep paralysis.

• 3:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I did what you did with bonjour now. Sleep paralysis. Why don't you start? Cause I have a story that you'll be shocked by this. Cause I actually picked one that's a, uh, a nicer one to end on.

• 3:44Corinne Vien?

  That is a shocker.

• 3:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, who am I?

• 3:46Corinne Vien?

  You've changed.

• 3:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Who is she?

• 3:47Corinne Vien?

  She's changed.

• 3:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't even know you anymore.

• 3:50Corinne Vien?

  2026 is who are you?

• 3:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You sicko.

• 3:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's still scary, just some positivity in it.

• 3:57Corinne Vien?

  All right, well, I'll start with one called, "Something evil folded me like a pretzel times two."

• 4:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh shit.

• 4:03Corinne Vien?

  Hi, Ghostesses and Leia. I'm a relatively loose-

• 4:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Loose listener?

• 4:06Corinne Vien?

  Loose, loose listener.

• 4:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm relatively loose when I listen.

• 4:11Corinne Vien?

  I'm a relatively new listener, but I'm already on episode 98. Everyone around me knows about your podcast because I've basically been listening for two months straight, even in the shower.

• 4:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Love that.

• 4:22Corinne Vien?

  Anyway, onto the story of two of my most horrifying nightmares.

• 4:27Corinne Vien?

  I like how she says nightmares, even though they're definitely more-

• 4:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Waking-

• 4:31Corinne Vien?

  They border on paralysis.

• 4:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 4:33Corinne Vien?

  "In my sophomore year of high school, I was very involved in church. I was studying to be a small group leader and wanted to know God's words so I could teach it to others properly. So I decided the only way to do this was to read the Bible from cover to cover. I told everyone at my church of my plans and went to reading. The first night, I got through a third of Genesis." Wow, I feel like that's a lot.

• 4:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is a lot.

• 4:54Corinne Vien?

  It's like, not an easy read.

• 4:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, and it's, she thick. I always think about, um, you haven't seen This Foreign Gilmore Girls, because I've now watched it twice through in the time that you've watched like, part of season one.

• 5:08Corinne Vien?

  One and a half seasons?

• 5:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, but Elaine Kim, her mom is like, very religious, right? And there's a season where Elaine is dating someone in her band, which is actually played by Adam Brody. And, but he's like, oh, white, he's not a Korean man that like, her mom wants her to be with. But he's like, "Last night I read the Bible like, front to back," and Elaine Kim's mom is like, so impressed. She's like, "I've only ever been able to do that once."

• 5:35Corinne Vien?

  I like that a lot.

• 5:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 5:37Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so, "I got through a third of Genesis before going to bed. That night, I have an odd sepia-colored dream of a house that looked like mine, except my bed was in the living room for some reason. In the dream, my mom was in the kitchen, cutting fruit, and I was getting ready for bed in my sister's restroom." While I'm on the toilet, I felt this sudden urge to sing worship songs. I managed to get a couple of words of the song out before I was hit with this sinister feeling and my voice was silenced. Stubbornly, I tried to continue singing, but what came out of me was just a garbled male voice. I panicked and I tried shouting a number of phrases, including calling for Jesus to save me, but nothing worked.

• 6:19Corinne Vien?

  The unseen evil had me stuck on the toilet with my pants down and unable to speak. At my wit's end, I yelled for my mom in Chinese and was broken out of my bad dream paralysis. I guess I surprised the evil entity with my bilingual abilities, lol. But the freakiest part was that when I woke up, I was face down in child's pose with my arms behind my back. My entire body was numb and cold. It was exactly 4:00 a.m. and I didn't go back to bed until my mom came home from work from her night shift. I want to point out that I sleep strictly on my side or on my back. I very rarely toss and turn at my sleep, so this was an entirely unnatural position for me. There was also no reason that I should have felt- An unnatural position for anyone. Yeah.

• 7:01Corinne Vien?

  There was also no reason I should have felt cold, as this was summertime in Southern California. The following night, I got back to reading the Bible and I finished another third of Genesis. I was scared to go to bed that night, but I felt like maybe I would be protected by the prayers of the people of my church. Unfortunately, it didn't work. That night, I had a dream that a girl I wasn't very close to came to my home to get ready for a school dance. I let her in my house, and as soon as I did, she began taking her clothes off in my living room. When she pulled her dress over her head, she transformed into an entirely different person. I was staring at a mottled gray skin and unfamiliar evil face. This creature then grabbed me by my wrist and turned its pointed fingernails into my

• 7:45Corinne Vien?

  palm and repeatedly scratched at my palm. Now, I don't know about you guys- Oh no. -but I never feel anything in my dreams, but this I felt viscerally. The scratches didn't hurt, but they were really unsettling, enough for my fight or flight to kick in. And I gripped the entity's wrist and returned, and I shoved it into the kitchen where I slammed it repeatedly against my oven and range until it fell limply to the ground. I took my eyes off it for a second, and when I looked back, there was a battered, purple, frosting cake in its place. What? Once again, I woke up 4:00 AM in child's pose. A little pretzel with my body numb and cold.

• 8:27Corinne Vien?

  Needless to say, I was not brave enough to read the Bible before bed again for many, many years. Thank you for reading this. Hope you guys aren't too creeped out from Angela.

• 8:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, I am creeped out.

• 8:40Corinne Vien?

  For just the perfect amount. And I feel like this is kind of sorry to those finding God in religion and trying to dip your toes even more into it. But like you become a target.

• 8:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I feel like this is a topic of discussion amongst scholars.

• 8:59Corinne Vien?

  As religious scholars, we can tell you.

• 9:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, but I feel like there has been

• 9:05Corinne Vien?

  A university.

• 9:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Debate or conversation about like demonic attacks and hauntings like this that do target people who are deeply devout and religious. Because it's a challenge.

• 9:18Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 9:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's a, oh, you're about to do this. You want to like dip your toe in here. Well, let me try to pull you this way.

• 9:24Corinne Vien?

  I mean, and that was immediate for Angela, like day one of trying to read the Bible.

• 9:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. I'm also curious why it chose the girl that she's not that close with. I'm looking for a reason. Was there something going on with that girl? Is it just because it's someone who's like not that familiar? I don't know. Like that feels like a specific choice.

• 9:43Corinne Vien?

  Or is it just like more of like a test where it's like you're going into a practice where you're going to help anyone? And invite anyone into your life and give to them.

• 9:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 9:53Corinne Vien?

  But they might take or attack you or like, like maybe it was a warning of just like, because it didn't hurt her.

• 10:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, and then it also ended up not being that girl. Like it ended up being like a mold, like gray, scary entity.

• 10:08Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 10:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But why did that entity choose that girl's face?

• 10:11Corinne Vien?

  Right, I don't know.

• 10:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. I don't think we ever will.

• 10:13Corinne Vien?

  Until Angela reads the third, third book of Genesis.

• 10:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think she probably already has, just not before bed. Okay, this is not about being sold with like a pretzel, but it is about A Victorian lady watching our listener Victoria sleep.

• 10:28Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 10:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 10:29Corinne Vien?

  A Victorian lady watching Victoria?

• 10:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 10:32Corinne Vien?

  How apropos.

• 10:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Victoria sent us one email and then sent us like a follow up. So I'm going to read both. Hi ghouls and girlies. My name is Victoria. I'm a fairly new listener, slowly making my way through the podcast, and I've fallen completely in love. I've always been a certified weird girl and have had lots of experiences throughout my life, none quite as intense as what I'm experiencing at this minute, mind you. I'm fairly sensitive to the paranormal, although that might be wishful thinking, as I want to believe I'm sensitive. But like I said, I mean, you're definitely sensitive. After you hear the story, there's no debate. Like I've said, I've had plenty of experiences throughout my life. I've heard footsteps in my mother's home. I've had sleep paralysis. I've seen things out of the corner of my eye. But things have taken a bit of a turn since my boyfriend and I moved into our first home together

• 11:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  in January 2025. Our home is a beautiful Victorian house in a historic village in the north of England. It's a very peaceful place to live overall, which we're both grateful for. And that's also, we come from fairly rowdy council estates before. So we moved into this house, and I remember joking as we moved in that the house was probably haunted due to the age of it. But my boyfriend scowled at me and told me not to joke about that kind of thing. It's important to note that my boyfriend is both cautiously skeptical and terrified of the paranormal at the same time. I feel like those go together. Yeah. At first, things were pretty quiet, and I started to think we had gotten away with an old house that wasn't haunted after all. But then that all changed the first time I saw the lady.

• 12:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I heard things in my house before, noises upstairs and such that I could always brush off as the house settling or neighbors, because we do have pretty thin walls. But one day, I was in my kitchen, and in the reflection of the French doors, standing behind me in the dining room, I saw her. The reflection was incredibly detailed, a woman in Victorian-era clothing, standing there, simply watching me. I'm used to this sort of experience where you catch a glimpse of an apparition and it disappears immediately. But no, this time? This woman and I stared at each other for a good few seconds via the reflection before I turned around, and only then, only when I turned around, did she disappear. I told my boyfriend, and he freaked out, begging me not to talk about it in the house,

• 12:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  because if I was being truthful, she could absolutely hear us.

• 12:49Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 12:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I reminded him how seriously I take the paranormal, and under no circumstances would I make up a story like this, particularly one that sounded so outlandish to a non-believer. Nothing happened for a while, other than noises in the house, like someone was upstairs when I was alone. And now my mom, who is a full-blown skeptic, who believes there's a logical explanation for everything, visited once to help me with sorting some of the childhood things I had to donate. And even she heard the noises. Even she admitted that she wouldn't like to be in my house alone and couldn't explain the feeling.

• 13:20Corinne Vien?

  Damn.

• 13:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then I saw the lady a second time, this time in my bedroom. I have pretty bad anxiety at night, and I wake up frequently throughout the night. On this particular night, I woke to see a shadow standing at the end of our bed. I figured I was hallucinating because I hadn't woken up properly, because I couldn't really move.

• 13:39Corinne Vien?

  It's like paralysis.

• 13:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But this shadow didn't leave straight away. Instead, like when I saw her in the kitchen, we held each other's gaze for a moment, and then she moved diagonally towards the bedroom door at an inhuman speed before she was gone.

• 13:54Corinne Vien?

  I hate that. The inhuman speed. Too slow or too fast, it's too creepy.

• 13:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'd rather it just disappear.

• 14:00Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 14:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But moving.

• 14:01Corinne Vien?

  Moving.

• 14:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 14:03Corinne Vien?

  Because then they can come at you.

• 14:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I knew it was her, the shape of the shadow, everything. And I've seen this lady in shadow form two more times since then, both during the day, which somehow is so much scarier, but it's always been very quick. And I don't really get a bad vibe from the spirit, she just feels nosey, I think. There is, however, something that does not feel great. One night about two months ago, my boyfriend and I were laying in bed just before going to sleep, having our independent scrolling time, when from the end of our bed was a clear, very loud child's laugh. We both froze. I turned very slowly to face him and whispered, "Is the window open?" Because our bedroom faces the street, so I figured maybe a family was passing by outside. Despite the fact it was the middle of the night, but he shook his head.

• 14:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The window's not open. I looked at him and I whispered, but you heard that, right? And this time, he nodded. He had. He suggested maybe it's the little boy next door, but he wasn't super convinced. Sure, it's not beyond the realm of possibility, but this laugh was not muffled like it had come through the wall. It was like it was a child standing right at the foot of the bed laughing at us. We did not see the spirit and we haven't heard him since, but the laugh was accompanied by a sense of ancient dread that I could not shift from until I left the house to go to work the next day. Geez. I worry about what this entity might be. Yeah. My boyfriend suffers from night terrors and since he was a little boy, has had them, but they've gotten worse since moving into this house. He says that before he wakes up properly,

• 15:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  he always sees me laying beside him, but as a horrific demon, not as myself. He puts it down to stress at work, but I'm not so sure. I don't know if this entity is demonic, but it does feel extremely negative. So I have no real satisfying conclusion to this, but I do have plenty of other stories. I was also once visited by a curious former worker in a 19th century factory I used to work at. And then Victoria sent a follow-up, saying, "I had to get back in touch because ever since I sent this email, things have gotten so much worse." No. I have not seen the Victorian lady since, but that laughing entity, whatever it was, has really amped up its mischief.

• 16:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I have no idea what to call it. This energy still doesn't feel demonic as far as I can tell, but it's definitely not friendly. The footsteps and the banging are now occurring every single night, especially when I'm home alone in the house, as if it's mocking me. I mean, this is the beginning of poltergeist activity. And things are starting to get physical. I've been waking up with long scratches on both of my breasts and a large bruise on one of them. It's not impossible that I could be scratching myself in sleep, but I keep my nails very short because I'm a germaphobe and I can't stand the feeling of dirt beneath them. So now my anxiety overall has increased and things came to a boiling point when I was alone in the house last night. Also, this was sent to us in November.

• 17:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My boyfriend is a musician and spends most nights rehearsing, so I'm often alone until quite late. This night, last night, I heard the hob turn on in the kitchen. We have an electric hob that beeps loudly when we turned on and I heard the beep. Do you know what a hob is?

• 17:16Corinne Vien?

  I'm, that's exactly what I was saying. Electric hob.

• 17:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like heater?

• 17:21Corinne Vien?

  It's a like burner cooktop.

• 17:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. So this turned on in the kitchen. It's electric and it beeps loudly when it turns on and I heard the beep and I went into the kitchen to find it turned on. Luckily, none of the electric burners had been turned on, so there was no real risk, but it definitely felt like an escalation. And had I not gotten there as soon as I did, would the burners have turned on? So I think my boyfriend was right and I really should have avoided talking about this in the house because the second I divulged all the details, it got worse, like it's testing me. I'm a little anxious as we're about to bring a little shelter kitty home and I don't want the negative energy to affect the cat. Or will the cat banish the negative entity?

• 18:01Corinne Vien?

  Oh, maybe. The cat will eat it.

• 18:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm really hopeful for some advice on how to cleanse the space and avoid any worse harm because I love this beautiful house and want to make a life here with my boyfriend and our kitty. Yours spookily, Victoria.

• 18:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, Victoria, oh my gosh. Wait, when was this sent?

• 18:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  November.

• 18:17Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so it hasn't been that long.

• 18:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 18:20Corinne Vien?

  And it does sound like this is like the escalation path to something a lot worse.

• 18:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep. Here's what I'll say, Victoria. I think intuition is the most important thing. So do what feels right to you. If you, if you feel like talking about it, divulging details is making it worse, then sure, don't talk about it anymore. But set intentions, set boundaries, be very clear, even like out loud, say like, this is our space. It is only filled with love and light and positivity. Nothing with ill intent is welcome here. Light like a little white candle. You can cleanse it with different herbs. And then us as a community, everyone who's listening right now. Can send positive energy to Victoria and her beautiful Victorian home in northern England. May it be a place that is cozy, happy, and peaceful.

• 19:08Corinne Vien?

  And also, I will say, if you're doing any renovations or changing anything about the rooms, maybe just out loud, say and explain, like as if you're talking to yourself, what is going on? Because I also, when moving into this house, experienced some things that definitely could have been categorized as like Poltergeist. Like he was aggressive.

• 19:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 19:30Corinne Vien?

  As soon as I started explaining what was going on with the house, it stopped.

• 19:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So, speak out loud.

• 19:35Corinne Vien?

  Talk to yourself.

• 19:38Corinne Vien?

  That's the advice.

• 19:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. Otherwise, yeah. Keep us updated.

• 19:42Corinne Vien?

  Keep us updated.

• 19:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And send us a picture of your cute little kitty. I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenewvo in a couple of weeks.

• 19:51Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 19:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I recently had some medical issues in my family and everyone in my family is like, let's just do everything we can to get ahead and take our own health into our own hands. Prenewvo's whole body scan is a radiation-free MRI designed to help provide a detailed, non-invasive look at your body in under an hour, and it helps evaluate across major organs and systems, including the brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis, and more. Prenewvo's whole body scan can help detect many cancers, aneurysms, and hundreds of other conditions. And they have memberships that bundle MRI scans, blood panels, and a personalized results review to track your health year after year.

• 20:33Corinne Vien?

  To learn more about Prenewvo and get $300 off your whole body MRI, go to prenewvo.com/tgog and use code TGOG. That's P-R-E-N-U-V-O.com/tgog. Terms and conditions apply.

• 20:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Receive $300 off Prenewvo whole body scans and executive and comprehensive memberships through January 31st. For full details, visit Prenewvo's website to read their terms and conditions and privacy notice. Prenewvo gifted me a whole body scan. A Prenewvo scan is a screening service, not diagnostic. Diagnosis and treatment are determined by your healthcare provider.

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• 21:34Corinne Vien?

  This is a story called "My Boyfriend Sleep Rouse's Demon Tapped Into My Nightmare."

• 21:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is one of the weir- like the scariest things is when like people are sleeping next to each other and experiencing like the same thing, but in different ways.

• 21:45Corinne Vien?

  Right. It's the classic, we go back to the story all the time that was sent by that one guy who was like sleeping in bed next to his boyfriend. His boyfriend never woke up to him like screaming, but he was levitating, floating right below the ceiling, knocking and banging and feeling the texture of the ceiling, thinking he was trapped in a coffin. But it was kind of worse. He was floating in the air.

• 22:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep. Being lifted up by an unseen scary entity.

• 22:11Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 22:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, what's happening in this story?

• 22:14Corinne Vien?

  "Good evening, beautiful ghost ladies. My name is Kylie and I honestly have no idea how I feel about this strange experience. So your insights will be very much appreciated."

• 22:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Great.

• 22:23Corinne Vien?

  "For context, my boyfriend and I have been together for two years now. The experience occurred when we were barely a year into our relationship. Going back to my young age, I promise this is relevant to the story. My grandma used to live in a one-story home with three bedrooms. Each bedroom had its own personality, you could say, as she decorated every room very differently. The girls' room was, of course, a pretty light pink with cute little flowers painted all across the walls. The boys' room was zoo-themed. It had elephants, tigers, lions, and you wouldn't believe it, bears too."

• 22:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my!

• 22:56Corinne Vien?

  Giving the room a very safari feel. Even the bed sheets matched with the room. They were leopard print and tan pillowcases.

• 23:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cute.

• 23:04Corinne Vien?

  Statues of different animals were also scattered throughout the room. The last bedroom was the primary bedroom. And since my grandmother's room, sorry grandma for typing this, was the primary bedroom, it was very much an old lady nineteen hundreds themed room. Huge bed, taller than me, needed a complete step to climb onto it. Super tall bedposts, just barely graced the ceiling, along with pretty bed curtains that were clipped onto the bedposts. And even a small tea table that sat in front of the window with two vintage chairs.

• 23:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, do you, this is a mansion?

• 23:37Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 23:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My god, hell. Beautiful.

• 23:39Corinne Vien?

  There were absolutely not chairs we were allowed to play in, under any circumstances.

• 23:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like this beautiful little tea table that you can't enjoy.

• 23:47Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, actually, I know exactly what that's like, because we had a, we had a.

• 23:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Formal sitting room?

• 23:53Corinne Vien?

  No, no, no, we had like, at the front, like you walk in the front door of our house, and there was a small bench, you'd think, for people to sit on.

• 24:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 24:01Corinne Vien?

  No, this was an antique.

• 24:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 24:04Corinne Vien?

  And you were not allowed to sit on it.

• 24:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 24:06Corinne Vien?

  And one time, one of my friends from elementary school, like, what do we weigh in elementary school? Seventy pounds? She sat on it and broke it.

• 24:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well. That's sad. Tough, tough thing with antiques. Some of them are beautiful, they're just for looking at.

• 24:19Corinne Vien?

  But also, like, don't get an antique chair and place it.

• 24:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 24:22Corinne Vien?

  In a place where people would naturally want to sit.

• 24:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do think.

• 24:25Corinne Vien?

  Mom and dad.

• 24:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do think that, and also, like, I grew up with a formal living room. And we never sat in there. We weren't allowed to sit on the couch that was in there. And then my mom would like cover it with plastic, and it's like, what is the point of having this?

• 24:41Corinne Vien?

  I know, it's like a little museum. Oh my god, I remember, so we had a formal living room too, but like, it wasn't really formal. My mom would sit in there to read, and Wrinkles would lay on the couch, so it was like, not treated very formally.

• 24:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, like, I would for sure have turned it into like a library.

• 24:55Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. But my, like, first experience with kind of like the crazy, like, living room and keeping like the, the formal living room pristine, was when I met my college roommate, and still one of my best friends, Brianna. Because her mom, every day, would vacuum the perfect lines into the carpet, and no one was allowed to, to step on it, because you couldn't undo the vacuum lines.

• 25:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We as humans are crazy.

• 25:23Corinne Vien?

  She would find out.

• 25:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're crazy.

• 25:26Corinne Vien?

  Which is so funny, because like her mom is like the most giving person ever. But it's like, that was her one thing that was just for her.

• 25:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 25:33Corinne Vien?

  Everything else, she just gave, gave, gave, but don't touch her white carpet.

• 25:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that.

• 25:38Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I was about ten or eleven years old, slowly growing up in the house, and I always remembered having just the oddest feelings there. It didn't feel evil or malicious, it just felt off. I've always been a firm believer in the afterlife and mostly terrified of it too. So I always made sure to watch my back in this home. I never stayed alone for too long in any one room. But the room that always gave me the strongest scary feelings was the boys' room. And I never knew what it was. I never did truly experience anything huge to talk about in there, but it was just always odd, creepy. The feeling of being watched very closely and very carefully.

• 26:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That room just reminds me so much of the movie Smart House. And like, you can turn like the walls like into different things. And I'm pretty sure like the animals kind of like come to life in one of the things.

• 26:23Corinne Vien?

  Oh dude, I like can't remember that part.

• 26:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think.

• 26:26Corinne Vien?

  Cool. Smart House was such a, that was such an early warning about AI.

• 26:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And robots.

• 26:33Corinne Vien?

  Disney.

• 26:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you're watching Disney Channel.

• 26:35Corinne Vien?

  One year when I was twelve, my little cousin and my family came from out of state to visit us. My cousin at the time was a little bit younger than me, I want to say six or seven years old, but this never stopped us from having a great time playing together. When he arrived, I was so excited to show him my very first laptop that my parents had gifted me for my birthday. I was a total Minecraft kid at the time. So we decided to have a balloon fight in the boys' room and then record the whole thing. We blew up five balloons and started smacking them across the bed at one another.

• 27:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But this sounds so fun.

• 27:07Corinne Vien?

  And the laptop was set up at the base of the bed, showing us both going in and out of view several times.

• 27:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I forgot the theme of this episode, because this is just so fun.

• 27:15Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, this is so fun. Once we got bored of this, he went on to his tablet and I went to go re-watch the videos. In one of the videos, in the left corner, I noticed something weird. A tiny ball of light coming out of thin air, shooting down to the floor and then suddenly disappearing again. When it flew, it had a long tail that trailed behind it. And I noted this because it was super weird, but I just left it at that. Shortly after this, my grandma moved out of that house and I kept the video of the light, as it always made a good scary story for those who dared to listen to me.

• 27:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Can you still have the video?

• 27:47Corinne Vien?

  It was not included in this. Ah. So Kylie did not send it. I don't know if she still has it. Now that I've explained the first half of my story, let me return to recent times where this room plays a big part. Okay. My boyfriend had explained to me at some point when he was younger that he used to experience sleep paralysis very frequently. Said it would occur almost every night when he was in middle school and high school. Every night? We are 24 and 26 now. He went on to explain that when this would happen, he would see a figure looming over him, pinning him down on the bed every single time it happened. It never spoke. It would just stare at him, watching him struggle to regain movement. Hearing this, I obviously was freaked out, but I knew for some odd reason not to be

• 28:30Corinne Vien?

  too afraid, as it couldn't touch me because I refused to let it. So jokingly, I told him that he should talk to a priest, but that was the end of that conversation. During this time, my boyfriend lived in an apartment complex and I would always come over to stay with him because he lived alone. So obviously I'd go there. Mm-hmm. One night, we went to bed a little late, but the rest of our day was pretty standard. We curled up next to each other because the honeymoon phase is wild AF. And you can never get enough of each other. So we snuggled up and we passed out pretty quickly. And that is when I started to have very vivid and a clear nightmare about a demon chasing me and my younger cousin in that house in the boys' room. I remember my mom holding my little cousin and me telling us to run into the boys' room and hide as quickly as we could because this thing was trying to kill us.

• 29:15Corinne Vien?

  I got a quick glimpse of it as I was running with my little cousin. It was very dark, dead face, gray and bruised, black eyes with blood dripping from them. The bruised. And blood dripping from its mouth, too. Almost like it had already eaten someone, but it was still very hungry. Yeah, because it's eating your boyfriend currently and now it wants to. Horrifying. As my cousin and I ran into the boys' room, we crawled under the bed and started whispering to each other, "It's gonna find us." My cousin whispered to me. I respond, "I don't think it can see us." All of a sudden, I wake up. I'm lying on my back. My eyes are wide open. I lie there staring at the ceiling, feeling that very same feeling I used to feel in my grandma's house, like something is watching me very closely.

• 30:00Corinne Vien?

  And that is when I hear my boyfriend saying in a very creepy, off-toned voice, "Do you think they can see us? Do you think they can hear us?"

• 30:10Corinne Vien?

  Totally freaked out, thinking I'm still dreaming. I whipped my head towards him and he is face to face with me, lying on his side, eyes wide open with a slight grin lining his mouth. I yell, "Who the fuck are you talking to?" And then he wakes up, as if I pulled him out of a dead sleep. He's looking at me so confused, saying, "What the fuck? What's going on? Who are you talking to?"

• 30:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love how Kylie started. It was like, "I don't know how to feel about this encounter." Terrified.

• 30:37Corinne Vien?

  Horrified.

• 30:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Freaked out.

• 30:39Corinne Vien?

  He was slightly cranky because I had just woken him up, but he looked at me like I had three heads. And so I quickly explained to him what he just did. And he said, "No fucking way. I passed out. I didn't wake up until I heard you talking to someone." Completely and utterly freaked out, I prayed and told whatever it was never to touch me or manipulate my dreams again.

• 30:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Found dreams.

• 30:59Corinne Vien?

  Found dreams. I also told my boyfriend that he needed to open up his windows and tell whatever it was to leave immediately, as I was not gonna have that thing linger around me and linger in my life at all. I do not allow negative energy like this around me, and I never will.

• 31:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hell, yeah.

• 31:14Corinne Vien?

  Oh, wait, we do have the movie. Sorry, Kylie. I said you didn't send it. You did.

• 31:20Corinne Vien?

  After this experience, my boyfriend and I were very much freaked out, and we still talk about it to this day. Neither of us can explain what happened. He says he has absolutely no memory of this at all. He only woke up when I shouted. But I saw his eyes clearly locked on my face, watching me as if it were a game to him. I will never forget the way his voice sounded either. It didn't sound like him at all.

• 31:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because it wasn't.

• 31:42Corinne Vien?

  And it gave me full chills as I remember the sound coming from him. It felt like whatever this thing was, it was responding to my nightmare. It was mocking my little cousin and me while we were trying to hide for our lives. The only weird thing that has ever happened since was one night I woke up face to face with my boyfriend's fat toes in my face, because for some reason, at some point in the night, he totally flipped around in his sleep. And neither of us know how he did that. I'm a very light sleeper. I always wake up when he moves or if he snores too loud. But I had never once felt him leave the bed or move at all.

• 32:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Huh.

• 32:15Corinne Vien?

  And the bed was not very huge. We're basically pressed up against each other the entire night.

• 32:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, maybe he was levitated, picked up and turned around.

• 32:23Corinne Vien?

  Turned around.

• 32:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Calmed back down.

• 32:24Corinne Vien?

  Anyways, I love your podcast and all the spooky stories. Stay spooky. Love, Kylie. Okay, and we do have the weird light video.

• 32:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, I want to see.

• 32:32Corinne Vien?

  Oh. Oh, you see that?

• 32:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 32:35Corinne Vien?

  It's so fast. It's not like it's lint or something, like dust going through.

• 32:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I wish Zoom and Enhance was a real thing.

• 32:42Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 32:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Interesting.

• 32:44Corinne Vien?

  And it's also from a while ago too. So it's like, you know, it's not like

• 32:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The best quality.

• 32:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 32:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is that, because like you would watch that and you'd be like, hmm, I don't think anything of that, but like it is weird.

• 32:54Corinne Vien?

  And the fact that it's in the room that was so creepy.

• 32:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And now you're living in a room with a man who's so creepy. I mean, it's

• 33:01Corinne Vien?

  Shout out to your boyfriend.

• 33:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wild. Your boyfriend

• 33:03Corinne Vien?

  Big fat toes.

• 33:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  His big fat toes. It sounds like your boyfriend, I mean, clearly you've said that your boyfriend's been experiencing this, like there was a phase where he every night was having sleep paralysis. There's something following him.

• 33:15Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Oh, and just you said it, like the, the fact that the demon looks like it had already eaten someone and you're like, because it's eating your boyfriend. I hate that. It's like already feeding off of him and now it's trying to feed on you too.

• 33:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do feel like Kylie, your presence in his life is almost going to get rid of this entity because like just like the boundaries and they're just like, I don't have time for this energy. I think we'll

• 33:38Corinne Vien?

  Discourage it.

• 33:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Knock him out. This is from our listener Emily and there's three stories. The cottage we never returned to, sleep paralysis and weird cowboys in my room.

• 33:51Corinne Vien?

  Oh, cowboys.

• 33:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello, Ghostess. I've been listening to your podcast for about three months now and I am completely hooked. I think in those three months, I've listened to around 150 episodes. Personally, I haven't had too many supernatural experiences, aside from some pretty scary sleep paralysis and my old dog seeming a little too in touch with the other side. But after binging your episodes, a few memories have been unlocked and I'm going to share them with you. Okay, so two short stories are basically the extent of my really scary experiences. The cottage we never returned to. To preface the story, I am now 22 years old. This story happened when I was around 12 or 13. It also involves my dad, so it's also his experience. We together have pieced our memories together to tell it as accurately as we could.

• 34:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was a scorching July, around 35 degrees. My brother was nine or 10 at this time and I were both out of school for the summer. No vacations planned, so my parents decided to take a family trip to a cottage we had never been to before. This cottage belonged to a friend of my cousins who lived in Toronto. Her friend's parents owned the place and had offered to let both of our families stay there for a week while they were away. We immediately said yes. How fun. What could go wrong?

• 35:06Corinne Vien?

  Great times.

• 35:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Spoiler, this is a bad idea.

• 35:09Corinne Vien?

  Oh, no.

• 35:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We had never met this friend or their parents. They lived in Toronto as well as my cousin, aunt and uncle. And while we also were in Ontario, we lived about five hours away from Toronto, so we rarely saw them. Usually, this cousin and their family would visit us, since most of our family lived near us. Now, this cottage is about a four-hour drive from our house. We were all excited to try something new, because we're the kind of family that camped in a trailer or we'd go take overseas trips. So cottage was something different for us. We arrived late in the afternoon, perfectly timed with my relatives. Everyone unpacked quickly and we rushed inside to check out our home for the week. And right away, you could tell that this cottage was old. The stairs creaked, the red wood was unpolished, and the wallpaper was really ugly.

• 35:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The first floor had a kitchen, living room, one bathroom, one bedroom, and upstairs was basically an attic. It had a large, open space with a small bedroom on the right side of the stairs and its own bathroom. Despite the lack of rooms and bathrooms for seven people, it felt cozy and welcoming in the daylight. We were too tired that first day to really take in the atmosphere. And the first night went smoothly, no issues. My aunt and uncle slept downstairs, my parents took the upstairs bedroom, and my brother, cousin and I all slept on air mattresses in the open space in the attic upstairs area. Again, nothing strange happened that night. Our first full day was great. We spent it swimming in the lake, exploring the woods, my parents relaxed by the dock.

• 36:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And after dinner that evening, we were all sitting in the living room eating when suddenly, every single person at the table stopped at the exact same moment and looked up at one another, because the entire house had suddenly gone freezing cold. It's the middle of July. The temperature outside barely dropped to 20 degrees Celsius at night, so there's no reason for it to feel that cold inside.

• 37:01Corinne Vien?

  No, and that's not a good sign.

• 37:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Paranormally.

• 37:04Corinne Vien?

  Everyone. Right. And I'm also trying to think, like, like, how do you even blame that on anything else? Like, what sort of natural disaster and, like, leak or something?

• 37:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Even if the AC had turned off or, like, turned up, it wouldn't happen instantly.

• 37:17Corinne Vien?

  No. Yeah, and there's no, like, I can't think of, like, a chemical or, like, a gas leak or something that would do that.

• 37:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 37:23Corinne Vien?

  Like, there's no... Someone try, I dare you to try to explain this away.

• 37:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My uncle stood up to go check thermostat, but the second he stood up, the temperature returned to normal. None of us were freezing cold anymore.

• 37:36Corinne Vien?

  That's bizarre.

• 37:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We brushed it off and assumed it was just a random cold draft. Everyone got ready for bed, my parents went to their room, and us kids started to fall asleep in the open space. My brother and cousin were out in minutes. But I stayed up playing on my iPad for a bit longer. And that's when I started to hear what sounded like slow creaks, like footsteps coming up the stairs. At that age, I had already had occasional sleep paralysis episodes, although I didn't know what they were. So I often got up to go check what I was seeing, or what I thought I was seeing. So I figured this was the same thing again. I got up, I still heard my parents talking in their room, and I felt relieved that someone else was awake. But as I started to go down the stairs, the air started feeling heavier, thicker. The cottage was so dark and the quiet was unsettling.

• 38:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And my bravery disappeared, so I ran back to my spot and fell asleep almost immediately. But then my dad had his own experience. My dad is the bravest person I know, and I might be biased, but he doesn't scare easily. He's a skeptic, even though strange things have happened to him before. Like, he lived in a house that had a pentagram painted on the door by previous owners' kids, and no matter how many times he and his family painted over it, the black paint of the pentagram kept bleeding through the new layers.

• 38:48Corinne Vien?

  That is fucked up, and that reminds me so much of, wasn't that what happened at the house in San Francisco that I covered at one point, or was it in LA?

• 38:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. The house that we talked about one time in eight years?

• 39:00Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah. There was like coal activity and bands and

• 39:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that's just a common. It's common. Okay, so my dad, he's a light sleeper, and my mom sleeps like a rock. So in this night, when I had heard the calling noises, I go to sleep. My dad, in the middle of the night, wakes up to the sound of my brother calling. Daddy, daddy, over and over.

• 39:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It sounded desperate. So my dad sat up, was about to get out of bed when he heard whispering, panicked whispering. It sounded like it was coming from inside the room. So he's looking around the dark, trying to find where it's coming from, when he sees my mom sitting upright beside him, eyes closed, praying quietly, but intensely.

• 39:45Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God.

• 39:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Now, my mom grew up religious, but by this point, it had been at least a decade since she had gone to church or prayed. So this was completely out of character. My dad tried to gently tap her shoulder, thinking maybe she was dreaming or sleepwalking, but she didn't respond. All she did was pray faster and harder. By now, my brother's voice had stopped, and all of my dad's attention was on my mom. Seconds passed, and there was a loud crash. The mirror that was in the attached bathroom had literally fallen right off the wall, shattered on the floor. After that, everything was a blur. My dad laid back down, trying to convince himself it was a bad dream. The next morning, he woke up early, and as always, he checked on my mom, who was still asleep.

• 40:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He looked in on us kids, and we were all fine. So relieved, he thought maybe it was just a really bad dream, until he walked into the bathroom and saw the mirror was shattered on the floor. He immediately woke everyone up, told us all to pack our bags because we were leaving.

• 40:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, the good call. Good call, Dad.

• 40:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I like that he's not the skeptic that's like, ignore it, just keep going on, that it wasn't real. Like, he's a skeptic where it's like, if something scary happens, like, we're not gonna sit here and find out what it was.

• 40:55Corinne Vien?

  And also like a mirror, and you have kids, like, that's so dangerous.

• 40:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. No one questioned my dad because he never panics, and so if he said we're leaving, we listened. We packed everything up, brought it to the car, and before heading out, everyone gathered in the living room. And as we started walking to the front door, which led through the kitchen, no one was prepared for what we saw. Every single cabinet, every single drawer, everything that could be opened in the kitchen was open. We all stood there frozen. No one spoke. My dad, who would normally crack a joke, looked terrified, which made all of us even more scared. So without saying another word, we all ran outside and didn't look back. We took two separate cars and drove to a nearby diner for breakfast, where my dad then explained what happened during the night. And after seeing the kitchen, we all believed him.

• 41:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My brother swore he hadn't woken up the night before calling my dad. And he's never sleep talked in his life. And even now, almost 10 years later, still has never sleep talked. My mom couldn't believe that she was praying in her sleep. She didn't remember any of it. We still think something else took over her for a short time.

• 41:58Corinne Vien?

  Jeez.

• 41:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  While we were at the diner-

• 42:01Corinne Vien?

  Or like, maybe it was like herself, but like, an old part of her soul that was tapped into, like, I have to save myself somehow.

• 42:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or even just like a protective sphere or something.

• 42:09Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 42:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  While we were at the diner, to fart out of my mind, the waitress overheard our conversation and she asks, "Oh, the cottage up the road?" We nodded, and her face dropped. She put the coffee pot down, turned around, and never came back.

• 42:24Corinne Vien?

  What the fuck?

• 42:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Another waitress came over and said, "Sorry, she started feeling sick. I'll be taking over. How can I help you?" My dad immediately said, "No, we're good. We're leaving."

• 42:34Corinne Vien?

  What?

• 42:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We know the first waitress knew something and we didn't want to find out what it was.

• 42:39Corinne Vien?

  Wait, no, I do though.

• 42:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 42:42Corinne Vien?

  What the heck?

• 42:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We thanked my relatives for inviting us, got in the car and drove home. We never went back to that cottage. We never found out what really happened there. And unfortunately, some family drama has caused us to become estranged from those relatives. So we will probably never know.

• 42:57Corinne Vien?

  Damn. I'm sorry, but like also, maybe not, because like now you don't have to go back to the cottage.

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• 44:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And now, my next story. My evil eye necklace worked?

• 44:09Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 44:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, growing up, I had a lot of sleep paralysis episodes. Out of my 22 years of life, I'd say I've had severe insomnia for about 15 of them. So at this point, it feels almost normal, and I've learned to manage it. I never really thought anything of those experiences as paranormal, but there are two of them that stand out very clearly in my memory. This first one happened when I was about eight. I had a normal bed with a frame on the floor, which will make sense later. One night, I woke up and I saw my mom and my younger brother, who was about five, standing in my doorway. I always slept with my door open, so that wasn't unusual. But what was unusual is I couldn't move. My eyes were open, but my body was completely frozen. I, in my head, tried to ask, "What's wrong? What's happening?" But they just stood there without moving.

• 44:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Suddenly, I woke up and I was able to move fully. The next morning, I asked my mom and my brother about it, but they were like, "What? We never came to your room." And my brother even got scared and started crying because the idea of me seeing him while he was asleep freaked him out.

• 45:09Corinne Vien?

  Aw, well, yeah, me too.

• 45:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. After that, I begged my parents to get me a bunk bed, and I figured maybe being off the floor would stop whatever that was from happening again. It didn't. Five years later...

• 45:21Corinne Vien?

  I feel like that's worse. Like, then it can creep up and you're really trapped. And it's like looking...

• 45:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. Also,

• 45:27Corinne Vien?

  I never wanted to be on the top bunk.

• 45:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  As a side note, if you're hearing sounds, there's construction happening.

• 45:32Corinne Vien?

  Perpetual.

• 45:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so about five years later, I had another vivid experience. I don't know if it was sleep paralysis this time. It's kind of silly now, but it terrified me then. My bunk bed was not a regular one with a ladder and a railing. It had stairs and a short wall that blocked off part of my view when I was laying down. One night, I woke up in the middle of the night, and I could actually sit up, which is why I'm not sure if it was sleep paralysis or just a very realistic dream. But I peered over the wall of my bunk and I saw my room transformed into what looked like an old Western saloon. There were three or four cowboys sitting around a table in the middle of my room, and one was sitting on the steps of my bunk bed. They had guns, they were in holsters, they were drinking, smoking, and playing cards. Like, it literally felt like I had stepped into a Western movie.

• 46:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The funny part is, at that age, I had never seen an old Western, and in Canada, our history classes definitely didn't cover things like that. When I sat up, the cowboy on my stairs looked at me and started walking up the steps towards my bed. I forced myself to fall asleep before he could get to me. Years later,

• 46:36Corinne Vien?

  That's so scary.

• 46:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, just close your eyes, pretend he's not here.

• 46:39Corinne Vien?

  But then also, it's like, did you fall asleep, or did he get to you and you passed out from the fear or from whatever?

• 46:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 46:46Corinne Vien?

  His effect was on you.

• 46:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like these cowboys were just enjoying the room.

• 46:50Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, hmm, nice updates.

• 46:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or I'm just picturing, like, you know, as a kid, or you would, like, act out and, like, create little plays with your friends. Like, I'm imagining these cowboys are just, like, hanging out and they're like, "Let's be cowboys tonight." Like, they're not actually cowboys.

• 47:05Corinne Vien?

  These kids might enjoy us as cowboys.

• 47:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, but years later, something happened that still makes me feel uneasy when I think about it. This is a couple of years ago now. My friend went to Greece and brought me back an evil eye necklace. I didn't really know much about it, and I'm not the type to keep up with European symbolism, but I appreciated the gift and I started wearing it regularly. A few months later, I finally looked it up and learned that the evil eye charm is meant to protect you, and it's said to break once it's done. A few months after that, I've had one of the worst night's sleep of a long time. I couldn't fall asleep for hours. I'm usually a deep sleeper once I've fallen asleep. Like, I've literally slept through a tornado and I needed a bed shaker or alarm clock to wake me up for work.

• 47:45Corinne Vien?

  No way.

• 47:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But when I can't fall asleep.

• 47:47Corinne Vien?

  Bed shaker, that almost like confuses me more because I'm like, does that wake you up? Or would that, I feel like that would almost like.

• 47:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I guess if it really shakes you.

• 47:55Corinne Vien?

  It jolts you, yeah.

• 47:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. So I'm like, is that not just being rocked back to sleep? But when I can't fall asleep quickly, I always end up waking up in the middle of the night. So I don't remember what time I finally fell asleep, but I clearly remember waking up. And it wasn't morning. My body was frozen. It felt like something was pinning me down. And for a second, I really thought someone had broken into my room. I opened my eyes since that's all I could do. I couldn't move any other part of my body. And I looked to my right. And that's when I saw it. A black shadow hand was holding down my arm. It pressed so hard. And this hand looked human, but had a dark smokey aura around it. And I couldn't see what it attached to. I didn't know who it belonged to, but that hand has stayed in my mind ever since.

• 48:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So like always, I used my method to escape. I tried to fall back to sleep. I pretended nothing was happening. And the panic exhausted me until I fell asleep. It's a very strange method, but it works every time. When I woke up the next morning, I was shaken, but I tried to brush it off. Until I went to the bathroom and I noticed that evil eye necklace, gone. It wasn't a delicate necklace either. It was a thick, black string that wrapped around my neck twice. And the charm attached through both loops. It never came off easily. I ran back to my room and I found it under my pillow. The charm was shattered into tiny pieces.

• 49:13Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God.

• 49:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Completely beyond repair. And that thick string was snapped, like something ripped it in half.

• 49:20Corinne Vien?

  Holy crap. See, like that's, because I just picture it as like, you know, time and showering with it. And it's like wear and tear.

• 49:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, but that's like.

• 49:28Corinne Vien?

  Gets tugged on something like, that was destroyed.

• 49:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Destroyed. I still tell myself that the necklace protected me that night. I thanked my friend over and over for giving it to me because who knows what would have happened had I not been wearing it.

• 49:38Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 49:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or did the entity destroy it so that I could do something worse? Sorry to put that in your mind. Thanks for reading my stories. Stay spooky. Keep up the amazing work. Emily.

• 49:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, thank God you had that bracelet or necklace.

• 49:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Terrifying.

• 49:51Corinne Vien?

  It is terrifying.

• 49:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All of your experiences.

• 49:55Corinne Vien?

  And they're all kind of really scary.

• 49:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't mind the cowboys because it's not like they interacted with her and like the guy started climbing towards her because she woke up.

• 50:05Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 50:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But they were just hanging out.

• 50:08Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 50:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Doing their own thing.

• 50:09Corinne Vien?

  Coming towards her is so creepy. They want to just turn and say hi or wave or something.

• 50:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe he was confused. What are you seeing?

• 50:16Corinne Vien?

  Oh, he was like, why is that?

• 50:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 50:18Corinne Vien?

  Time glitch. They were real cowboys.

• 50:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They were.

• 50:21Corinne Vien?

  You were their ghost.

• 50:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Dang. Does that mean that she was just like levitating?

• 50:26Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, the time they saw a little girl levitating while they were just hanging out.

• 50:32Corinne Vien?

  Stories your great great grandpa cowboy used to tell.

• 50:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wild.

• 50:37Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I have a story called The Sleep Paralysis Demon Who Tried To Drag Me Out Of Bed. And then Sabrina has promised us a nice one.

• 50:45Corinne Vien?

  Hello lovely ghostesses. My name is Kira. Feel free to use my name. I've been listening for a few months now and I want to say your episodes have helped me get through my first semester of vet school.

• 50:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yay.

• 50:55Corinne Vien?

  My dog. My dog Duck.

• 50:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that.

• 50:59Corinne Vien?

  My dog Duck and I have been working through your episodes every night before bed.

• 51:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that. It's like you and Duck together. Like does Duck pick episodes that he wants to listen to?

• 51:09Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God, I love that. So cute. I'm writing to tell you about the most horrifying sleep paralysis experience I have ever had. I've had sleep paralysis a few times, but I think this one specifically is the worst and I think about it every night as I'm trying to fall asleep.

• 51:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, perfect. You shouldn't do that.

• 51:24Corinne Vien?

  No, I know, but it's like the intrusive thing where it's like the fear of it happening again.

• 51:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And the entity wants you to be fearing it.

• 51:30Corinne Vien?

  I was home from college for winter break staying at my mom's house. I've never had any scarier paranormal experiences in this house before, besides the occasional weird noise from the house settling. It's not a particularly old house. There's nothing spooky about it. It's just a normal house in the middle of Wisconsin. I was sleeping in my room, which is on the main level, separate from the other rooms of the house. And I woke up in the middle of the night unable to move. So I tried to flip over, even maybe just move my fingers, but I couldn't do anything. Suddenly I heard someone whispering from behind me. One fact about me is I am a very heavy sleeper. I would never wake up to anyone whispering or even yelling my name in the room. Oh, man, I've kind of had this of that. That also is scary in its own way, too.

• 52:13Corinne Vien?

  True, yeah, like you don't know if there's some like an intruder or something. Right. Or as I've learned, having a child, I can't rely on the heavy sleeper in my partnership to wake up to a child in need. In my half asleep delusion, I assumed that this creepy whispering was coming from my mom. I tried to say aloud, Mom, hello, hello? But my mom, but my words can't, sorry, I just started laughing because I was thinking about the time. It was only a few years ago when my mom opened my bedroom door when I was home. It was the middle of the night and I was back home in Vermont and she opened the door, but the slowest possible opening. And it was also like that door needed WD 40. It creaked the entire time.

• 52:56Corinne Vien?

  So instead of just doing it fast, she just kept doing it slowly where it's going.

• 53:01Corinne Vien?

  So scary. And I was turned away from the door, so I had to like flip myself around. Ominous. So creepy. Menacing. My words came out slurred and so quiet, I wasn't even sure if I was making any noise at all. I kept trying to speak, trying to move, but I was paralyzed. And then I felt a presence suddenly looming over my head. I was laying on my side, so I tried my best to peek up at whatever it was that I could feel. And I caught a glimpse of a pale woman with black hair. Picture the girl from The Ring. Terrifying. And she was standing over me. Of course, I immediately shut my eyes super tight. I tried to scream for help. I produced some sort of gargled and slurred noises. And that is when I heard the woman say in the creepiest voice that you could ever imagine, "Don't say anything."

• 53:46Corinne Vien?

  Oh, ew. She then stops leaning over me and backed up. I heard her begin to walk away from my bed and towards the door. And that feeling of relief started to wash over me, assuming she was leaving. And then I felt her turn and stop at the end of my bed. I felt a light touch on my feet, which were secured tightly under my blanket. But this offered me no protection as she suddenly yanked my feet with an unbelievable amount of force and dragged me halfway down the bed.

• 54:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is so evil because it's like doing everything that's like abusive. Don't tell anybody. It's leaving.

• 54:24Corinne Vien?

  And then coming back when you think you're safe, just as you think you're safe, it's turning around and

• 54:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Doing the most violent thing.

• 54:31Corinne Vien?

  And also to like gently touch the feet first and then

• 54:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hate.

• 54:35Corinne Vien?

  She then let go of my feet and walked out of the room. And I don't know how to explain this next part, but I could almost feel and see a vision of her walking into my basement and then disappearing.

• 54:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ew, ew, so she lives in the basement.

• 54:48Corinne Vien?

  I must have fallen back asleep because the next memory is of me waking up in the morning. Since this experience, I have not seen anything creepy. I have not seen this entity. I have a few more episodes of Sleep Process since, but nothing involving this woman. However, anytime I do go into the basement for any reason, I am overcome by an unusual feeling of discomfort. Thank you for listening to my story. I'll see you on the next one. Kira.

• 55:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, Kira, did you tell anyone about the experience besides us? Cause holy shit. Cause she doesn't want you to, meaning you should.

• 55:24Corinne Vien?

  Well, now, now she's told a few thousand people.

• 55:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A lot of, a lot of people know.

• 55:28Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 55:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Somebody's gonna know. Hate.

• 55:32Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 55:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Truly just hate.

• 55:34Corinne Vien?

  I wish we had one of those like signs where it's like love, hate.

• 55:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hate it. You bring to go try on bridal dresses.

• 55:41Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Yuck.

• 55:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yuck.

• 55:44Corinne Vien?

  That is a scary one. I would never wish to have that. I can't believe she just like yanked.

• 55:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I hate it so much.

• 55:51Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it does remind me of the scariest experience known to me by someone I personally know is Nikita's. I've referenced it so many times over the past eight years, but my friend Nikita had something similar happen to her. Like Kira, where she thought she was dreaming and she was being chased by this like monster and was caught in her hallway.

• 56:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And dragged down the whole hallway, right?

• 56:16Corinne Vien?

  Yes. So then her last memories are it's like falling to the ground, being caught by the back of her, like by her feet. And she's being dragged down the hallway, which is like all rug. And she wakes up and she's like, that was the craziest, scariest nightmare ever. Gets out of bed, rug burns down her body.

• 56:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yuck. Hate it. Okay, well, um, this is scary, but it is also heartwarming and is from my listener, Michelle. Hey spooky bitches. My name is Michelle. You can call me Michelle. You two are the best.

• 56:49Corinne Vien?

  Not spooky bitch.

• 56:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you're spooky bitch, Michelle. I've always wanted to submit an encounter episode, but I thought that I never had an encounter. Until I listened to your paranormal pets.

• 57:00Corinne Vien?

  I love this.

• 57:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And a memory popped up in my mind about the time I was saved by my cat, Momo, from a sleep paralysis demon. And I have a photo that kind of proves it. Okay, so this is back in 2017. It was my last year of college. I was living in a dorm with some of my friends. And I had recently adopted my cat, Mo, from a shelter a few weeks prior to this event. So her and Mo, her, Mo and I, were just getting to know each other. We were not supposed to have cats in the room, but I had a doctor's note. Wink, wink. No, actually I did have a doctor's note for an emotional support animal because I was anxious cruelly. So it was my birthday weekend when this happened. I must have wanted to take a nap for the festivities that night.

• 57:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I never take naps. I've never been a nap person, but for some reason I decided to take a nap that day. And I've always been a side sleeper. I never sleep in my back or any other position, always my side. But during this nap, I had woken up, in quotes. And I am staring at my tapestry on my wall, but I cannot move. And I remember feeling my body tingling, almost like you're so anxious and your body starts vibrating or trembling. That's what it felt like. As the seconds go by, this feeling got more and more intense. And then I started to feel the air shift. As if something large was walking over to me and it was reaching for me.

• 58:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then I feel like this huge hand with long fingers and long nails grabbed my arm, which is by my side, and it slowly starts to turn me over.

• 58:34Corinne Vien?

  Oh, fuck, no.

• 58:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, it was trying to turn my body.

• 58:38Corinne Vien?

  I got, I need to stop swearing.

• 58:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was so terrified. I with all my might tried to move, to scream, to do anything to get myself out of this situation, and I could feel myself getting sweaty, cold sweat from my fear. When all of a sudden, I felt Mo, my cat, jump onto the bed. I felt her little baby paws walk around to my side, walk back to my feet. And as soon as I felt her walk on the bed, this thing immediately let go. The darkness disappeared, and I felt warm. I still couldn't really move at the time, so I must have fallen back to sleep, or, I don't know, I was scared and my cat made me feel safe and I was able to fall back to sleep. But at the same time as all of this is happening, my roommate slash BFF walks past my room and took a little Snapchat photo, which I've attached, the timestamp and all.

• 59:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And for some reason, she decided to caption it, "Protecting her mama."

• 59:28Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 59:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She had no idea what had happened to me. I literally was still in the middle of the nap. It was crazy, but this was the last time I ever had sleep paralysis, and still, to this day, Mo sleeps with me every night.

• 59:39Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 59:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She is my soulmate, my protector from things I cannot see, and we have been through so much together. Not only does she love me and protect me from my sleep demons, but she now protects my husband, and I will always find her napping with him, too. Here are some photos of Mo and the photo of when it happened. You can share the photos of the spooky one and of Momo herself. Literally as I finished writing this, my husband came home from work and just says, "I had this random ass dream that Momo protected me from these weird monsters. Weird." Anyway, love you. See you on the other side. Michelle.

• 1:00:14Corinne Vien?

  That is wild.

• 1:00:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Look at it.

• 1:00:16Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh. Is everyone just, oh, is everyone either just so in sync with what's happening and like picking up on the energy, or is Momo just implanting? The protective energy into everyone's minds. It's just like so clear, so palpable.

• 1:00:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think Momo can see these entities.

• 1:00:36Corinne Vien?

  Oh, for sure. But like the fact that everyone else is thinking that, labeling photos like that.

• 1:00:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 1:00:42Corinne Vien?

  Dang, how lucky are you to have Momo?

• 1:00:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Protecting her mama.

• 1:00:45Corinne Vien?

  So sweet. Protecting her mama.

• 1:00:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So cute. See?

• 1:00:47Corinne Vien?

  I love that.

• 1:00:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Pleasant.

• 1:00:48Corinne Vien?

  A good one to end on. Unfortunately, sleep paralysis is experienced by a lot of people.

• 1:00:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think we have thousands of emails. It was hard to pick because there were so many.

• 1:00:57Corinne Vien?

  There are so many.

• 1:00:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Honestly, it was one of those things where I literally was just like, I'm just gonna pick on a random one. And every random one I picked was good.

• 1:01:03Corinne Vien?

  Right. I did the same thing. Just like just randomly plucking.

• 1:01:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whereas like other times, I feel like you have to like, kind of like really thoroughly like read the subject lines and like try.

• 1:01:11Corinne Vien?

  Right. Cause like not, yeah, tag wise, not everything is perfect, but.

• 1:01:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Nope. Thousands of you have experienced sleep paralysis.

• 1:01:18Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And which we're sorry for.

• 1:01:21Corinne Vien?

  Sorry to you.

• 1:01:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But thank you for emailing us and we hope you continue emailing us. So if you have any encounter, sleep paralysis or not, please email it to us at [email protected]. I did just notice, I like looking into the camera, I fully blend in with the couch.

• 1:01:39Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:01:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm a talking head.

• 1:01:41Corinne Vien?

  Green screen.

• 1:01:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm a talking head.

• 1:01:42Corinne Vien?

  You're a talking head. Yeah, you are. Wow.

• 1:01:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Lovely. I'm wearing all brown, matching our couch. If you want episodes one week early and ad free, join us over on Patreon. Uh, we also have bonus over there, like bonus content, um, and wit class and campfire stories. And you get a sticker. Lots of fun things.

• 1:02:01Corinne Vien?

  We love you. Shout out to Jamie Ryan. We also love Jamie.

• 1:02:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We love Jamie so much.

• 1:02:05Corinne Vien?

  This is our podcast. Thank God for Jamie.

• 1:02:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 1:02:08Corinne Vien?

  And also thank God for Emma Leventer, who does social media and just a lot of odd jobs around here.

• 1:02:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All the producing necessities.

• 1:02:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We love you all.

• 1:02:16Corinne Vien?

  And we will. See you on the other side.