Behind the Scenes Minis: Morocco!

Tracy and Holly talk about their recent podcast trip to Morocco with listeners, arranged by Defined Destinations. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 3:20Tracy V. Wilson?

  Hello and happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson. And I'm Holly Frey. This week, we have spent the whole week talking about Charles Sumner. Yes. But we're not spending behind the scenes talking about Charles Sumner because we're not done with Charles Sumner yet. And that's just, it felt weird and confusing to try to separate out our behind the scenes thoughts into two different episodes. What we are going to talk about is Morocco. Yeah. Because this is the first thing that we are recording after returning from our trip to Morocco. Yeah. And so we thought, since we have this behind the scenes that we need to do, it would be a good time to talk about what that was like. Yeah. First, I want to thank Michael from Defined Destinations. Defined Destinations is

• 4:05Tracy V. Wilson?

  the company that we have worked with on planning all of these trips. And this, I think, is the fifth trip that we have gone on with Defined Destinations. Yeah. They have all been great. Also want to thank Huda, who was our local guide in Morocco. I love that woman. Huda was great. Huda and I are buds. We've been texting. Huda was with us the whole trip. My spouse and I got a little sick partway through the trip. I was more sick. It was not a serious situation, but Huda was so gracious and very attentive to whether I was doing okay. And also, when we stopped for lunch, I was not going to be having any lunch.

• 4:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  The idea of trying to sit at a table for the next hour was not acceptable to me.

• 4:52Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 4:52Tracy V. Wilson?

  And so I asked her if I could just like hang out by the pool while lunch was happening. And she arranged for the restaurant to bring out some, some sick people food.

• 5:03Holly Frey?

  Yeah, you have like a little soup out there.

• 5:05Tracy V. Wilson?

  They brought me some soup and some rice and some Moroccan salad, which is, was not a leafy green salad. It was a plate of the various vegetable dishes that are sometimes framed as Moroccan salad. I ate like three bites of each of the things. And then I, after a good night's sleep at the hotel that night, we were both fine.

• 5:28Holly Frey?

  Yeah, you rallied.

• 5:29Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:30Holly Frey?

  Yeah, that trip was intense in the best ways.

• 5:34Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 5:35Holly Frey?

  It was funny, I was just posting on Instagram about it because like we, we were on the bus a lot.

• 5:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 5:43Holly Frey?

  Cause we really went all over Morocco and I would be sitting there on the bus and see everybody asleep. And I would be like, look, I know everybody's tired, but you're not going to see this ever again, probably. Look out the window.

• 5:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  This was a problem I had.

• 5:59Holly Frey?

  Yeah, I was forever just glued to the window like a child.

• 6:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, I was looking forward to the time on the bus because I was expect, I was like, I knew we were going to be driving through really scenic places.

• 6:11Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 6:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  I also can be a little prone to motion sickness and usually I'm fine on buses. But a lot of our bus time was in windy, mountainous areas.

• 6:24Holly Frey?

  Yeah, with switchbacks.

• 6:26Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, there were a lot of switchbacks and those were bothering me and I, so I had to take some less drowsy Dramamine.

• 6:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  And I think the combination of jet lag and the less drowsy Dramamine, and possibly also my blood pressure medication.

• 6:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  Staying awake was not an option. Like, I was just involuntarily unconscious.

• 6:53Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 6:54Tracy V. Wilson?

  On, on the bus, if I had taken any Dramamine.

• 6:57Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 6:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  And I, like, I really, I wanted to be awake. I wanted to be looking at the landscapes we were passing through. And what really would happen was like, I would open my eyes and the view out the window would be radically different from the last time that I opened my eyes.

• 7:14Tracy V. Wilson?

  It did have, even though I was really bummed to just miss the sightseeing out the bus window aspect, it did help me be more functional the whole trip. I tend to have a really hard time with the time zones and the jet lag. And the fact that I slept on the bus did seem to let me be more functional all of the rest of the time.

• 7:37Holly Frey?

  Yes. Did I tell you about my weird night at one of the hotels?

• 7:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  I don't think so.

• 7:44Holly Frey?

  I don't think I did either. So let me preface this by saying, I know this sounds weird. To set the scene for our listeners, there was one night where we just stayed at this one hotel. It was kind of a quick stopover because we were, as we said, traveling all over. One, I'm pretty sure that hotel was highly instrumental in the development of Animal Kingdom Lodge at Disney World.

• 8:09Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, okay, yeah.

• 8:11Holly Frey?

  But two, in the morning, I had cause to ask Huda, hey, there any, ever been any rumors about this hotel being haunted?

• 8:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  What was the answer?

• 8:23Holly Frey?

  Well, I will tell you after I tell you what happened and why I asked that question.

• 8:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay, okay.

• 8:28Holly Frey?

  And it's one of those things that, as I was, I didn't initially want to even talk about it while I was still in the hotel. I wanted to wait till we were outside of it, but then I ended up talking about it at breakfast outside of my room. Because.

• 8:42Holly Frey?

  Three very weird things happened to me in the night.

• 8:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 8:47Holly Frey?

  And when I say these things and I go, and then I go back to sleep. I know that sounds very kooky to people, but please keep in mind that I also preface this by saying, I have, since I was four, had night terrors. So I'm used to weird things happening and then being like, oh, that's my brain.

• 9:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 9:03Holly Frey?

  So this could have all just been, oh, that's my brain, but they were extra weird. And one of them, I was like, my brain couldn't do that. So first of all, I awakened in the night to a noise and I thought, oh, Brian must have gotten up and gone to the bathroom. And it was pitch black in the hotel room. But I thought the way your eyes adjust to the light, that I could make him out in the bed beside me. And I reached out to him and said, something like, are you awake? And I felt his hand in my hand, which is what he would always do if I reach out to him and the, you know. And then the bathroom door opened and he walked out of it. And I was like, what just happened?

• 9:42Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 9:44Holly Frey?

  And I was like, well, I must be having a really intense night terror. And then I kind of shook it off and I went back to sleep. Also helped by the fact that we ran long days. We were exhausted every night.

• 9:54Tracy V. Wilson?

  They were very long.

• 9:55Holly Frey?

  And then I woke up like a couple of hours later to a ticking noise. And I just thought, that's a weird, you know, hotel sound I'm just not familiar with. And I sat up in bed and I couldn't identify where the ticking noise was coming from. And I was like, I'm just going to chalk it up to the hotel. And I laid back down and as I laid back down, I felt what felt like a hand on my shoulder. From the opposite side of the bed of where Brian was, like I was facing Brian and it felt like somebody behind me put a hand on my shoulder. And I just, once again, again, being a child of night terrors, my coping mechanisms are things like saying, hey, be cool. I'm a friend.

• 10:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Sure. Yeah.

• 10:29Holly Frey?

  And I went back to sleep. And then the third thing was, because I can be a heavy sleeper, sometimes to wake me up when I have asked him to do so, Brian will pull all the comforters off of me because he knows that will wake me up.

• 10:42Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 10:43Holly Frey?

  And I, again, this is not a mean thing he does. It's like a sanctioned activity we have discussed.

• 10:49Holly Frey?

  And I thought I felt him do that in the night. The covers were certainly gone. But then I realized he was snoring and I was like, that's not Brian. And when I sat up to get the covers, they were like four feet away from the bed.

• 11:02Tracy V. Wilson?

  Wow.

• 11:03Holly Frey?

  And I'm like, did I just kick really hard and my brain made up a scenario?

• 11:07Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 11:08Holly Frey?

  And I don't know. Again, this could have all just been stuff going on in my brain. But we got down to breakfast and amazing Huda, who I adore with all of my soul at this point. I said, like, hey, Huda, has this hotel ever had any claims that it is haunted? And she, her initial thing was, Holly, this is a very nice hotel. And I was like, it is, it's lovely. Like, I'm not complaining. And she said, I've slept here many times and nothing has ever happened to me. And I was like, huh, maybe it's just me. And she goes, well,

• 11:39Holly Frey?

  last year, my daughter stayed here and she said some very similar things to what you're saying right now.

• 11:45Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, wow.

• 11:46Holly Frey?

  Maybe that hotel was haunted. I don't know.

• 11:48Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 11:49Holly Frey?

  It was very, very wild. And I just woke up and I was like, and the thing was, I did actually wake up to Brian, who had gotten up earlier than me and was like, hey, I'll take a shower so you can sleep a little longer. He walked over to my side of the bed and gave me a kiss on the forehead to wake me up. And I woke up in one of those, like, at that point, I was like, I don't know what's going on here. Is this ghost kissing me now? And he was like, whoa, what's the matter? And I was like, I will tell you later.

• 12:12Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 12:16Holly Frey?

  That was my haunted Morocco story.

• 12:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, that is the, that is the hotel where we became unwell. So in the, the next day, I think you said something to me like, did you think weird happened in your room last night? And I was like, I don't think we're talking about the same thing.

• 12:32Holly Frey?

  Yeah, yeah, I had, I had a weird one. I had a weird one. Which again, I, I want to be very clear too. None of those activities felt dangerous to me. You know what I mean? If it was in fact a spirit, which is not a thing I really believe in, but sometimes I wonder. They all felt very benign. They didn't feel like anything nefarious or evil, just weird.

• 12:55Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, yeah.

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• 13:47Speaker 02

  Zepbound is a prescription medicine used with a reduced calorie diet and increased physical activity to help adults with moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, OSA, and obesity to improve their OSA. Zepbound is approved as a 2.5, 5, 7.5, 10, 12.5, or 15-milligram injection. Zepbound contains trisepotide and should not be used with other trisepotide-containing products or any GLP-1 receptor agonist medicines. It is not known if Zepbound is safe and effective for use in children. Don't share needles or pens, or reuse needles. Don't take if allergic to it, or if you or someone in your family had medullary thyroid cancer, or if you've had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2. Tell your doctor if you get a lump or swelling in your neck. Stop Zepbound and call your doctor if you have severe stomach pain or a serious allergic reaction.

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• 16:08Holly Frey?

  We rode camels in the desert. That was a highlight.

• 16:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  We rode camels in the desert. So a lot of our bus days were ultimately a product of getting to the Sahara Desert to spend a night at the luxury camp and ride the camels.

• 16:26Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 16:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Which was 100% worth it.

• 16:29Holly Frey?

  Yes.

• 16:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  I had never seen, like, I had been in arid desert environments before, but I had never seen those kinds of dunes that are in that part of the Sahara Desert.

• 16:44Holly Frey?

  Oh.

• 16:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  And they're beautiful.

• 16:45Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 16:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  And I, like, I was looking forward to the camel ride and our night of desert clamping, which is where we left, we left. On the camel ride from the place that we were doing our desert clamping. So I was looking forward to that from the beginning of the trip. It was 100% worth it. The ride out to see the sunset was very fun. I enjoyed it. I hope the other folks that were with us, I think there was a variety of comfort levels of riding on the camels in terms of how secure people felt about doing it ahead of time. But the folks that were leading the camels, I think, tried to help make sure everybody feels safe and confident.

• 17:26Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 17:26Tracy V. Wilson?

  And then at least our group, on the way back, after the sun had set, there was still plenty of light. It was like a twilight level of light as we were on the way back. But the whole group was just silent. And it was like, we silently rode back to the camp and everybody just seemed to be kind of absorbing what we had just watched with the, the sun having set while we were watching it from the, from the dunes of the desert. And it just was very peaceful and moving.

• 17:56Holly Frey?

  Yeah, yeah. It was beautiful. I had discomfort on the camel because our ride out to the desert, you and your beloved, and Brian and I were all in one vehicle with a driver, and I was on the middle seat in the back, which had very little cushioning.

• 18:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 18:12Holly Frey?

  And you're not on roads. You're just driving through rock and desert. My badonk was very bruised by the time we arrived. And so then to get right on a camel was like, oh.

• 18:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 18:22Holly Frey?

  Still worth it. But it was like, I was very bruised for a couple of days.

• 18:26Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 18:27Holly Frey?

  But it was funny because I had been, my biggest concern had been, what if my camel does not like me?

• 18:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh.

• 18:33Holly Frey?

  I don't think my camel did like me, but that's okay. It wasn't, you know, angry about it or anything. It was just like, girl, stop trying to hug me. I'm not here for that. The camel behind me gave me a little, a little muzzle now and again when we would kind of stop and be close to one another. Cause you're.

• 18:50Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 18:50Holly Frey?

  Several camels in a row are tethered together.

• 18:53Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 18:54Holly Frey?

  And it was like, my arms got a workout from holding the bar. But like, amazing.

• 19:02Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 19:02Holly Frey?

  Amazing.

• 19:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  Patrick's camel was very smart and on the way to watch the sunset untied the tether.

• 19:11Holly Frey?

  Mine too was.

• 19:12Tracy V. Wilson?

  Camel.

• 19:12Holly Frey?

  Well, mine was not, mine didn't do that. It did what horses will sometimes do where they puff up. And so the saddle gets loose.

• 19:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 19:22Holly Frey?

  And so before I could mount to go back, they had to reset the saddle.

• 19:26Tracy V. Wilson?

  Had to adjust things. Yeah. Yeah.

• 19:28Holly Frey?

  It was like, I see how it is camel. I understand.

• 19:31Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 19:32Holly Frey?

  You don't love me. It's fine.

• 19:34Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. What were some of your other favorite things from Morocco?

• 19:37Holly Frey?

  We did a cooking class that I was in love with.

• 19:40Tracy V. Wilson?

  I loved that too.

• 19:41Holly Frey?

  I was in love with it.

• 19:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 19:43Holly Frey?

  It was one of the most fun things we did. It was hilarious. It was adorable. The woman that was doing the demonstration was hilarious and adorable and very fun to work with. I also, I mean, I just was very moved by all of it. Like I, Chef Chawen is so beautiful.

• 20:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 20:01Holly Frey?

  Which is the blue city that people have probably seen lots of pictures of, but stairs will destroy you.

• 20:07Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, I, I had no concept, even though I had seen pictures of the city from kind of above or a distance. And so I understood that like, that's, that's.

• 20:17Holly Frey?

  It's a vertical town.

• 20:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Vertical, verticality there. I was not prepared for the number of stairs at all. I had no concept that I would be climbing that many stairs that day.

• 20:26Holly Frey?

  Well, I think like our comparable, right? Is when we were in Italy and we were visiting Cinque Terre.

• 20:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:32Holly Frey?

  Which also has similarly laid out towns that are very vertical. There were still like pathways through them that were easy grades.

• 20:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 20:44Holly Frey?

  Chef Chawen is like, by the way, here's a hundred steps. They're not uniform and they've been here a long time. There are no railings. Good luck.

• 20:54Holly Frey?

  Like some of those stairs were as tall as like. My leg from the knee down. So like getting up and down them was a little bit of a hiker for me. Worth it. Again, 100% worth it.

• 21:06Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. Folks who could not or did not want to do the steps again after we had dinner down in the square at the lowest level of the city, took a cab back up.

• 21:18Holly Frey?

  Yeah, I did.

• 21:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  I did not. I walked back. We walked slowly on the way back up and I saw one of the cutest things on that walk back up, which is there are a lot of cats.

• 21:29Holly Frey?

  Yes.

• 21:29Tracy V. Wilson?

  There were a lot of cats everywhere we went in Morocco. There were particularly a lot of cats in Shifshaoen. And there was a person whose I'm assuming home was there, who was feeding the cats out the front door.

• 21:47Holly Frey?

  Uh huh.

• 21:48Tracy V. Wilson?

  And I could not, like, the person was behind the door. So it was just this group of very polite cats waiting to be fed. And I took the opportunity to take a picture of these cats and also to catch my breath a little bit. And so Patrick and the other folks we were with were walking ahead and I was like, I gotta take a picture of these cats. And the person behind these door, the behind the door who I couldn't see went, you need to smile. You need to smile.

• 22:16Holly Frey?

  That is very sweet.

• 22:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  It was great.

• 22:19Holly Frey?

  Yeah, when we, we went down into the city center as part of our tour in the morning and after that, we walked back up to the hotel.

• 22:26Tracy V. Wilson?

  Hmm.

• 22:27Holly Frey?

  Because our hotel was at the Tippy Tippy Top. And then we walked back down for dinner. And then after that, we were like, let's take a cab. And like, we were in the Medina, so there are no cars allowed there. And I

• 22:41Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 22:41Holly Frey?

  knew that, but I did not realize how long the route was going to be to get us back to the hotel because of it. Like, we left at the same time as Michael, who runs the tour, and Scott, who was one of the people on the tour. They were walking back up and we took the cabs and they beat us to the hotel.

• 23:00Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 23:00Holly Frey?

  Because it's a very long ride. I mean, it's not like arduously so, but.

• 23:04Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. When we left that hotel to get back on the bus, our bus had been blocked in at the parking area by other buses. And so we had to take cabs.

• 23:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  From the hotel at the top, like just outside the wall of the Medina, at the very top of the of the hill there, had to take cabs to get down to the outside the city center where the bus was. And they just loaded us all up in what must have been a significant number of the taxis in the city. And they weren't actually racing each other, but it felt a little like we were in a movie in which there was a car chase scene of 30 different people split up across like

• 23:52Holly Frey?

  Yeah, it vibed road rally for sure.

• 23:55Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. And then we had a similar experience going out to the desert camp because we were split up across four-wheel-drive vehicles with four passengers and a driver per vehicle. And that definitely felt like the drivers were racing with each other a little bit, not in a way that felt unsafe at all, but like different drivers took slightly different paths through the desert.

• 24:19Holly Frey?

  Well, some of that was so that they wouldn't clump up and make everybody slower.

• 24:23Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right, right. And not like not put extra ruts. Like if everybody was driving on the same path, there would be deep ruts. But it definitely felt like there was like a playfulness to the drivers and and the they're getting in and out of the area, which I enjoyed because I was not on the middle seat.

• 24:43Holly Frey?

  The middle seat was bad. What else did I super love? I really loved Fez.

• 24:50Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, I did too.

• 24:52Holly Frey?

  The architecture of Fez made me cry because it is so beautiful and so carefully made. Like, there's so much ornamentation in every single space and you just know that so many hands had to touch it with such care and devotion, and I found that very moving.

• 25:12Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 25:16Tracy V. Wilson?

  A lot of the places that we stayed on this trip were really gorgeous.

• 25:21Holly Frey?

  Ridiculously gorgeous.

• 25:23Tracy V. Wilson?

  And the, the hotel that we stayed at in Fez had previously been four different riads that have now been combined into like one hotel. And the interior of it was gorgeous. I walked around a little bit and just took pictures of things on the inside of the hotel.

• 25:41Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 25:42Tracy V. Wilson?

  Our room had a little balcony that I initially thought overlooked the lobby, which like did not make sense in hindsight. I was like, the lobby was not built that way. What it actually overlooked was like an interior courtyard that was open to the sky.

• 25:58Holly Frey?

  Ours overlooked the lobby.

• 26:00Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 26:02Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 26:03Holly Frey?

  Um, yeah, if we opened up our windows, our little space there looked right down to where we had been when we first walked into the building.

• 26:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, that was what I thought I was looking at the first time. I, and then Patrick was like, no, look up. And I was like, oh, that is the sky. And so it like, it, it was cool to see that part of like the traditional way of building housing that was often around a central enclosed courtyard that was cut off from the rest of the city. We also had a tiny little window in the bathroom that also was open into this like interior courtyard area open to the sky. And there wasn't really a way to secure the little bathroom window.

• 26:48Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 26:49Tracy V. Wilson?

  And I kept imagining being in like an adventure movie and somebody having maybe a trained monkey to come into the window and to steal the diamond out of our room or whatever. Anyway, that was one of the favorite places that we stayed of all of our hotels for sure.

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• 30:23Tracy V. Wilson?

  I also really liked visiting the tannery that we visited in Fez.

• 30:30Holly Frey?

  Low on my list.

• 30:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  It had an odor.

• 30:34Holly Frey?

  Not because of that. I just, I'm, I've reached a point where I don't really wear leather.

• 30:39Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:40Holly Frey?

  So it was like-

• 30:40Tracy V. Wilson?

  I don't really either. But I liked seeing, we, they took us out into a, like, sort of balcony area that overlooked where they are curing and dying leather in a way that has been done for centuries.

• 30:57Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 30:58Tracy V. Wilson?

  And, and that was really cool. I'm trying to think of other major highlights. It's, it was such a busy trip with so much that we packed into it, that some of it, to some extent, is still a blur.

• 31:10Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 31:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  It was a, a lot, a lot of trip. I mean, we went everywhere, which is great.

• 31:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  I also want to thank everybody who went with us on the trip.

• 31:24Holly Frey?

  Super fun group.

• 31:26Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, all of this is, I think I said earlier, this is the fifth trip like this that we have gone on. Always, it is, a great group of people have come to be there with us. Always people who are kind and interesting and thoughtful. In addition to all that, I particularly appreciated that when we needed to leave for the airport at 2 o'clock in the morning, every single person was on time to the hotel lobby.

• 31:55Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 31:56Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 31:58Tracy V. Wilson?

  That started our arduous trip home, in which I was awake for almost 40 hours. I, returning to Logan Airport, Patrick and I were getting into a lift. And I heard someone say something along the lines of, are you on a podcast?

• 32:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  And I said, yes. And it was, it was another person, a listener to the podcast. I'm trying to remember, I feel like they said, I texted you about it. I, I feel like Leah from Alabama, if I'm remembering correctly. And it was just a person who happened to also be in the area to get into a car. And I was like, hi, I've been awake for 40 hours, except I was so tired. I almost said, I've been asleep for 40 hours. And so that was just a fun little happenstance to happen.

• 33:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  I'm sorry if I have half remembered your name wrong. I really had been asleep for, or awake for almost 40 hours.

• 33:07Holly Frey?

  Yeah, I had a similar thing, but the next day, because I did the ding dong move of like, the next day I got on another plane to go to Orlando, because it was Life Day and I wanted.

• 33:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 33:18Holly Frey?

  I'm not going to miss Life Day. They had Chewbacca in his Life Day robes for the first time ever. I, I wasn't going to miss that. But I got to Batu in Hollywood Studios and someone said.

• 33:31Holly Frey?

  I'm a huge fan and I'm like, hi, and I was just like, I'm crazed.

• 33:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 33:36Holly Frey?

  And I feel very bad because she was lovely and amazing and I asked her her name and it flew right out of my brain.

• 33:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 33:44Holly Frey?

  But it was very dear and I appreciated it greatly and I was slightly crazed. I was, I was very eager for my Ronto rap.

• 33:52Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 33:53Holly Frey?

  And I was meeting up with a friend. So, because Brian was like, I'm not getting on another plane. What are you crazy? And I'm like, well, yes, yes. In fact, this is perhaps the evidence.

• 34:02Tracy V. Wilson?

  It is what's happening.

• 34:04Holly Frey?

  But yeah, what a, what an amazing adventure. I mean, it was just adventure around every corner, which was really fun.

• 34:12Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 34:12Holly Frey?

  Really, really fun.

• 34:13Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. I feel like I still need to review all of the pictures I took and just remember some of the stuff that we did.

• 34:20Holly Frey?

  Yeah. Well, I did not remember the taxis getting us to our bus in Chef Chauvin until you said it just a few moments ago.

• 34:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, funny.

• 34:27Holly Frey?

  Like, oh, yeah, we did have like 10 taxis waiting at the door and we just kind of got rushed into them.

• 34:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  Loaded into them and to go.

• 34:35Holly Frey?

  Great.

• 34:36Tracy V. Wilson?

  So, yeah, we are in the process of working on another future trip for next year.

• 34:42Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 34:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  So, uh, hopefully we'll be able to announce that soon. I really loved visiting Morocco and learning so many more things about the history and culture. We may or may not have some kind of related episode at some point in the future. Some of the things that came up were things we'd already talked about on the show.

• 35:04Holly Frey?

  Yeah, I have one thing that I'm definitely working on, but it is also related to a European living in Morocco. And then I have another that I'm trying to figure out how I want to position it and if I can get enough English language literature around it to actually put something together. So.

• 35:22Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 35:23Holly Frey?

  Fingers crossed.

• 35:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  Well.

• 35:25Holly Frey?

  We didn't even mention that we made mosaics.

• 35:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, we did make mosaics.

• 35:30Holly Frey?

  That was super fun and crafty.

• 35:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mine broke before even getting to the hotel.

• 35:36Tracy V. Wilson?

  So we gotta, we gotta glue it back together.

• 35:39Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 35:40Tracy V. Wilson?

  Patrick's did not break. Patrick bought a piece of artwork and then spent, he bought it on like the second or third day of the trip. I guess the second day of the trip. He bought a piece of artwork and then we spent a lot of the rest of the trip wondering how he was going to get it home. And the answer was carry it onto the airplane. And it arrived.

• 36:01Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 36:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  So now we gotta get it framed.

• 36:04Holly Frey?

  I had to buy additional luggage in Morocco.

• 36:07Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 36:07Holly Frey?

  Carry my many treasures.

• 36:11Holly Frey?

  Yeah. Which was hilarious because that's another great Huda moment. Where I was like a little dazed on our last night and I was like, I gotta go buy luggage. She's like, nope, we're gonna handle that. And like the assistant on the trip, Araby, literally went out and found me a piece of luggage and delivered it to the lobby.

• 36:29Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, lovely.

• 36:30Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 36:31Tracy V. Wilson?

  Thanks, Araby. Araby is great.

• 36:32Holly Frey?

  He was amazing. He and Abdullah, who was our driver, who did things with that bus that like most people could not do with a Mini Cooper. I mean, in terms of like the way that he could manage that

• 36:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 36:46Holly Frey?

  huge vehicle was incredible. Yeah. What an unforgettable trip.

• 36:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. Yeah. So at some point, we will hopefully be announcing a future trip. And tomorrow, we will be back with a Saturday classic. Monday, we will come back and finish up the story of Charles Sumner. And then later, have a behind the scenes, actually talking about the creation of that episode.

• 37:13Tracy V. Wilson?

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