Living Forever Is No Longer Science Fiction: The Age of Immortality is Here | Peter Diamandis PT 2

In the continuation of "Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu," Peter Diamandis delves deeper into the transformative technologies at the frontiers of human longevity and artificial intelligence. Tom and Peter explore bold predictions about living forever, the breakthroughs needed to achieve longevity escape velocity, and the revolutionary applications of AI and quantum computing in addressing aging. Discover why the decades ahead hold unprecedented potential to drastically alter our lifespans and the quality of those years. As they discuss the possibilities of a bio-digital future, Tom and Peter also touch on the ethical implications of these advances and what it will mean to live in a world teeming with humanoid robots and AI companions. This dialogue is a deep dive into the future where technology and biology seamlessly merge to enrich the human experience. SHOWNOTES 23:36 Impact of AI on Longevity and Quantum Computing's Role 25:26 Future Predictions: Health Span and Digital Superintelligence 27:00 Immuna and Regenerative Technologies 28:46 Exponential Technologies in Healthcare 31:32 Mindset's Role in Longevity and Health 35:09 AI Advancements and Their Implications 42:25 The Exciting Future with AI and Humanoid Robots 49:00 Life After Artificial Intelligence Integration FOLLOW PETER DIAMANDIS: Website: https://www.diamandis.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peterdiamandis/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/peterdiamandis CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS Range Rover: Range Rover: Explore the Range Rover Sport at https://rangerover.com/us/sport Audible: Sign up for a free 30 day trial at https://audible.com/IMPACTTHEORY https://audible.com/IMPACTTHEORY1 Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to https://www.vitalproteins.com https://www.vitalproteins.com/ and entering promo code IMPACT at check out ITU: Ready to breakthrough your biggest business bottleneck? Apply to work with me 1:1 - https://impacttheory.co/SCALE Tax Network USA: Stop looking over your shoulder and put your IRS troubles behind you. Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit https://tnusa.com/impact MUD/WTR: Start your new morning ritual & get up to 43% off your @MUDWTR with code IMPACT at https://mudwtr.com/IMPACT ! #mudwtrpod Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/impact American Alternative Assets: If you're ready to explore gold as part of your investment strategy, call 1-888-615-8047 or go to https://TomGetsGold.com https://tomgetsgold.com/ Ridge Wallet: Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code IMPACT at https://www. Ridge.com/IMPACT https://www.ridge.com/IMPACT #Ridgepod ********************************************************************** Do you need my help? STARTING a business: Join me inside ZERO TO FOUNDER here https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=6762613-Scaling%20YT%20%26%20PC%20Ads&utm_source=IT_PC&utm_content=ztf_it_pc_ad SCALING a business: Click here to see if you qualify https://tombilyeu.com/scale?utm_campaign=6762613-Scaling%20YT%20%26%20PC%20Ads&utm_source=mindset_PC&utm_content=bdceo_mindset_pc_ad Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:sign up here. https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** Join me live on myTwitch stream https://impacttheory.co/4fitmnJ. I'm live daily from 6:30 to 8:30 am PT atwww.twitch.tv/tombilyeu https://impacttheory.co/4fitmnJ ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS:apple.co/impacttheory http://apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:09Tom Bilyeu?

  I'm Tom Bilyeu and this is Impact Theory. This is part two of my incredible conversation with Peter Diamandis. If you're just tuning in now, go back and listen to part one. We've already covered the breakthroughs in AI and longevity that are coming faster than anyone expected and what you need to know to stay ahead. Today, we're getting into the next big shifts. How AI-driven healthcare can make disease a thing of the past. How new tech is creating massive investment opportunities. And what all of this means for your future. Let's jump right back in with Peter Diamandis. What a crazy time.

• 1:43Speaker 01

  Holy shit.

• 1:44Tom Bilyeu?

  So, given how crazy it is, let me ask you, how do you feel about this new administration? Who is using a lot of your besties to really steer towards something?

• 1:55Speaker 01

  I'm excited. I think this is gonna be the roaring twenties. I think it's gonna be the most extraordinary acceleration we've ever seen in the US. I'm actually, I was fearful and now I'm thrilled.

• 2:08Tom Bilyeu?

  What took you from fearful to thrilled?

• 2:11Speaker 01

  Elon, Elon's role in it. I mean, first and foremost, as a stabilizing factor and is creating clarity in a vision. And then...

• 2:22Speaker 01

  The incredible people that are being pulled in. So here's something that just blows me away because I was just in San Francisco meeting with a number of these individuals who have been CEOs of major companies. That you could have never, ever paid enough to enter the government. It's like, you know, I got a call years ago to enter, you know, would you be interested in the role of NASA administrator? And I was like, I'd rather shoot myself.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  And, and the reality is that what we've had is either people in government who, that's their power trip. They, that's their relevance play. But they're, they don't, they haven't had the, you know, the, the leadership qualities and experiences to do something incredible on a world stage or the social capabilities. And now I, I see friends of mine who are like, yep, I'm going to go in and spend, commit six months on the Doge effort and help right the ship. And it's like, you could never afford those people, never convince them. And they're all jumping in.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  You know, it's interesting, a lot of these people, no matter what you think about them, they're super smart and they know how to succeed. And what we're talking about is the success of the US government on planet. At a time when AI is skyrocketing, when crypto and Bitcoin is blowing through the roof. I had three hour dinner and hangout with Michael Saylor last week talking about this. And man, oh man, is he convincing. He and I were fraternity brothers in MIT and roommates working together. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah. And.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  It's, it is extraordinary. And then the whole deregulation thing is a real thing. Like in the biotechnology world, so one of the technologies that's super exciting in longevity space is stem cells, peptides, a whole bunch of these things. And the government regulations have been crushing. And people need to leave the US to go elsewhere to get access. And it's like, hold it, this is my body. Right? I want to try these technologies on my body. How can you tell me I can't do this?

• 4:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Facts.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  Right? And it's like overreaching. And it's like, you know, there should be, you know, there is a equivalent of a, you know, if you go public with a company of enough lawyers and accountants that say, grandmother can invest in this public company. But before you have a,

• 5:07Speaker 01

  not a registered investor, a, what's a?

• 5:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Accredited.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  Accredited investor, right? Where you say, okay, this guy or gal is smart enough. They have enough money that if they're stupid and they make the investment and they lose it, that's okay.

• 5:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Right.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  I think we should have like an accredited patient program. Where if I, you know, somebody's convinced me to try their medicine, their stem cells, their drugs, whatever. If I have my husband or wife or kids or doctors sign off on it, that I'm of sound mind. Why would you tell me I can't do it? Right? So I think we're going to have some interesting changes in regulations too.

• 5:43Tom Bilyeu?

  So talk to me about the regulations. Do you think that AI should be regulated? How should we be approaching some of these technologies?

• 5:51Speaker 01

  I don't think it can be regulated.

• 5:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Really? At all?

• 5:57Speaker 01

  I don't know. I mean, we can regulate on the sales of chips, right?

• 6:05Speaker 01

  Are we going to regulate the software being developed if it becomes far more efficient? The question is, you know, we're entering as we hit GPT five and we have super PhD level AI models that begin to self referentially improve their own algorithms and get better and better and better and become a digital super intelligence.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  How do you regulate against that? Do you like have to get approval for every experiment that's being done? You know, what's interesting is I used to think this was going to be a competition between governments, like the US versus China versus, I'm not sure who else, but and now I'm clear it's a competition between companies. It is, we're going to have the dominant, right? We're going to have Microsoft and XAI and Google and OpenAI and Facebook and, you know, a few others.

• 7:17Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, did you hear Andreessen on Rogan?

• 7:20Speaker 01

  I heard clips, I didn't hear the whole show.

• 7:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh my God. It is a must watch. It should be taught in civics classes. I'm not kidding, not in the slightest.

• 7:30Speaker 01

  On my, on my watch list next.

• 7:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, yeah. Did you, so the part that I want to talk to you about is he was saying the Biden administration was going for total control of AI and that they told him point blank to his face, don't even start a new AI company. No way we're going to let that happen. It's going to be a small number of people. And that's the part they said out loud. The implication is that they're going to use regulatory capture to ensure that it's just a small number of companies that can get in so that they can have influence and control over that. That, that was so damning to me.

• 8:06Speaker 01

  I don't know how they could do it and it's ridiculous.

• 8:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Why is it ridiculous? Why is that a bad strategy?

• 8:13Speaker 01

  Because whenever we've tried to control things like this before, I guess nukes are a reasonable example of one we have. One of the best examples of how to do this correctly was, I remember I was at MIT.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  In my graduate degree, I was doing research in recombinant DNA. And their first restriction enzymes had come out where, you know, the cover of Time Magazine was Hitler. Gene edited babies, you know, it was like a lot of fear about gene editing. And the big conversation was, can, should we regulate this stuff? And what happened was that the engine, the industry got together at something called the Asilomar conferences. And they pulled together and they created their own regulations. They created their own guidance.

• 9:10Speaker 01

  And I think you can steer and influence. There's no on off switch on this technology. There's no velocity knob on this technology. And so if you try and regulate, what that means is the bad actors are the ones who are doing most of the breakthrough work. Versus the ones that you, you know, that you have access to. You want the leaders in the industry to lead and to have a vision to shoot for.

• 9:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I, having lived through the food industry, I come at it from the perspective of government, almost by definition, is dumb. And if you take any approach where you think that, oh, we know best and we can do this top down. You get the food pyramid. So whether that comes from corruption or ignorance or both, I literally don't give a fuck. But it's like, we've run the experiment. We see how ridiculous this is. When you carry it to its extreme, it is absolutely spastic. You get Mao's China, you get Stalin in Lenin's Russia. It's absurd in the extreme. And so I don't know if people just reject Thomas Sowell's idea that there are no solutions, there's only trade offs or.

• 10:24Tom Bilyeu?

  I, I don't know, but I cannot believe that people look at the actual real human history and go, you know, it's going to work here. Top down control.

• 10:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:33Tom Bilyeu?

  It literally baffles my mind.

• 10:35Speaker 01

  I agree. And having said all that, this is the most exciting four years that I think I've ever been alive during.

• 10:46Tom Bilyeu?

  But I'll say it, the reason I think it's exciting is you have people finally going, you know what, maybe transparency is the right answer, maybe smaller government's the right answer, maybe balancing the budget is what we have to do. Deregulation. So that's all about going, government has these inherent limitations. And we need to recognize that the reason the founding fathers set it up such that they did, was that we know that power corrupts, we know that people, even the populace can derange. So the whole idea, this is something I don't think people understand. The whole idea between Congress and the Senate is that you could get passions whipped up in the Congress. People that are elected, that they are beholden to their constituents every two years,

• 11:27Tom Bilyeu?

  need a countervailing force of people that don't have, because originally those weren't even elected officials. They obviously are now, but they didn't used to be. And so they were every six years, and so they were supposed to be these cooler heads that could basically say, okay, look, this is mob rule. Yeah, exactly. So people need to have an inherent distrust of the government. Now, I'm not anti-government, we need a government, but we need to understand.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  But you are a libertarian.

• 11:52Tom Bilyeu?

  I wouldn't call myself a libertarian, no, because I, I look at the world and I say, humans, when they act as a mob, get really stupid really fast. And you have to have a force in there to mitigate that. When I look at, because there are really smart people that I hear talking about anarchy, and I think that just the, all of human history tells you that humans living in an anarchic system cry out for government. Because what ends up happening is the strongest person slaps everybody else around. And all of a sudden you go, huh, I don't like this, so I would very much like to get a cabala people that will go and stab that guy to death.

• 12:33Tom Bilyeu?

  And then because we had to do it on mass, we didn't win because we're stronger, we won because we're smarter and because we build coalitions. And now that we know the power of coalitions, let's try to win shrines. And you just see that play out over and over and over and over and over. So. Yeah, I don't understand people that either can't accept the realities of the human condition, or I don't know what it is. Anyway, humans are deeply flawed. America seems like the best experiment so far of how you mitigate against that. It's very sloppy, but you have to have an inherent distrust of government. You have to want to keep government small. You have to want to balance the budget. And then my personal hobby horse, you have a moral obligation to give people, your populace, an opportunity to save their money in something that can't be inflated.

• 13:14Speaker 01

  Are you a Bitcoiner?

• 13:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, yes. Aggressively.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  Is that your single largest asset?

• 13:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  Mine, mine, mine too.

• 13:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, how do you feel when people say, at least there's a lifeboat, Tom, to all this chicanery of money printing? Does that make you happy?

• 13:33Speaker 01

  A lifeboat, meaning, meaning what Bitcoin?

• 13:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, like when people, when like, I will get up on a soapbox and I will fucking rail over the fact that the government prints money and that is stealing from its people.

• 13:45Speaker 01

  Yes, it is. Inflation is a disease.

• 13:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, and a, a disease that leaked out of a lab called the Fed. Uh, so the ultimate lab leak hypothesis.

• 13:55Speaker 01

  We need our, our antiviral agent.

• 13:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes. And then people will say, well, that's Bitcoin, Tom, and all is well. Uh, does that make you happy? Or do you want to headbutt them?

• 14:05Speaker 01

  About being pro Bitcoin or?

• 14:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Quite, that's saying, it's all good, Tom. There's a solution.

• 14:11Speaker 01

  Um, I think there is a solution that will still take another five to 10 years to fully materialize. I think we're still in the early days and we could still do a lot of destructive destruction until we get there. I think we need to get this government budget under control. Uh, I think that there needs to be intelligence in the system.

• 14:35Tom Bilyeu?

  What does that look like?

• 14:36Speaker 01

  Well, I think it like, listen, if you were to say, what are the laws governing? Any industry. Um, how many laws are there? And you fed that through an AI and said, okay, how many of the laws here are conflicting with each other? And, uh, what, how could you reduce this to get rid of 90% of the laws in the books, but keep 90% of the intention? Hmm. Right? So you can debunk, uh, our, our law system. Our IRS code OMG. It's ridiculous. It's sick. It's, it's written. I'm not going to get into it. Anyway, so there's a lot of improvement and I'm hopeful that we'll see some changes, uh, now, at least in the next two years.

• 15:21Speaker 01

  But I want to talk about longevity and not government. If you don't mind, not my area.

• 15:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Taking a quick pause, but when we're back, Peter explains how space, biotech and AI are coming together in ways that sound like science fiction, but are actually happening right now.

• 15:44Tom Bilyeu?

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• 17:55Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for sticking around. Let's get right back into the action. That is in terms of

• 18:02Tom Bilyeu?

  whether we're able to unlock that stuff or not, there is a reality to be faced there. So let me ask you one more question about this. So Elon, what, what is it about him that makes him so efficient, so effective? Like, how does he pull all this off? You know him very well. For people that don't know you, you guys have known each other for a very long time. You're very close. So you have an insight that most would not.

• 18:29Speaker 01

  Number one, he's brilliant. I mean, let's be very clear. He's extraordinarily, you know, super genius level. Number two, he is an engineer and he thinks with an engineering mind, a first principle. He will tear apart something to understand. Is it going to work? Is it something that I should spend my time on?

• 18:54Speaker 01

  He thinks probabilistically, not absolutely. I think is an important element here.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  He's, you know, I, listen, I don't know how he does what he does, to be very clear. I remember he was on my board at X Prize and.

• 19:12Speaker 01

  And he calls me one day back in 2008 when the shit was hitting the fan. You know Falcon Falcon one had had its third failure. And he was going through divorce and Tesla was in trouble. And he's like, Peter, listen, I apologize. I need to step off the X price board. I need to focus on Tesla and SpaceX. And he went heads down and I just need to do those two things. And of course, now he's running like six or seven different things. And when I text him to set up a, you know, a podcast or an interview, whatever the case might be. And I say, well, like, thanks. And who should I coordinate with? He goes, me.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  I go, do you have an assistant? He goes, no. So crazy. And, and he, he does, but it's like, I remember Larry Page at Google. He was also on my board at X prize. Said one day I, I let my executive system go. I said, huh? Why? And he goes, because if I don't have one, no one can schedule anything on me. That's why I did it. You did the same reason? Yeah. For same thing for the exact same reason. Yeah. Amazing. Time is the great equalizer, right? All eight billion people on the planet all have in common 365 days in a year, 24 hours in a day. And that's it. And how you use that time? And so I think one of the things that sets Elon apart is how he thinks about utilizing his time.

• 20:42Speaker 01

  And he's not a multiplexer. He's very focused on doing one thing and going very deep. And focusing on the engineering of that, you know, rocket engine. Or the let's get X AIs, 100,000 H 100 GPUs talking to each other. It's never been done before and he dives in and he's just that smart.

• 21:09Tom Bilyeu?

  If you had to peg his like type of intelligence, is it pattern recognition? Is it not getting trapped by his own bullshit? Like, what is it that makes him so strong?

• 21:20Speaker 01

  I think it's all of these things, but he's deeply technically knowledgeable. And he goes to first principle thinking, right? He will look and try and understand things from the fundamentals. And he doesn't bullshit himself. I remember years ago, if you remember, I was in the asteroid business, asteroid mining business. And very excited about the business, I still am. And I said, so Elon, would you buy liquid oxygen from me on orbit? And if it's cheaper than what you can get? He said, of course I would. He said, but Peter, you're just too early. You're just too early. And of course, he was right. And being too early is the same thing as being wrong.

• 22:05Speaker 01

  And so I think his timing of things, which is the way he looks at things, right? He's got a very clear set of mindsets. I mean, mindset is what differentiates him.

• 22:17Tom Bilyeu?

  That's interesting. What, I know mindset's really important to you as well. What, what are some of the most important mindsets for somebody that wants to do what you're doing? To face the kinds of craziness and longevity that he's doing, building rockets and?

• 22:32Speaker 01

  So I talk about six mindsets. And my next book, Mindset Mastery, for next year is on helping. So if I said to you, listen, think of the greatest leaders in the world. Elon Musk, you know, Steve Jobs, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, whoever you want. And I asked you, what made those people successful? Was it the money they had, the tech they had, the friends they had? Or was it their mindset? I think most everybody would say it was their mindset, right? If you took everything away from them and they kept their mindset, they would probably regain much of what they lost. And so if that's true, if mindset is your greatest tool as an entrepreneur, as a leader, as a mom, as a dad, whatever, then the question is, what mindset do you have?

• 23:17Speaker 01

  Where did you get that mindset? And more importantly, what mindset do you need for the decade ahead? And so I fundamentally go deep on that. And I've outlined for me a number of mindsets. It's a curiosity mindset, you know, to be especially now in this period of AI, to have that curiosity mindset, to be willing to go and learn and be curious because you have the most infinite teacher. I think for me, there's a purpose driven mindset, which is one of the most important things, right? Mark Twain mentioned earlier, I love one of his quotes. He goes, you know, there are two important days in your life, the day you were born and the day that you find out why. All right, so I teach a what's called a massive transformative purpose.

• 24:02Speaker 01

  I think every single person should have clarity about their purpose in life. I think they should have an MTP. I created a tool using a large language model I built, which is free. It's called mypurposefinder.com, mypurposefinder.ai. If you go there, it'll walk you through a series of questions and it will help you elicitate and create what I call a massive transformative purpose. So my MTP is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs to create a hopeful, compelling and abundant future. It's what I care about. It's what wakes me up in the morning. When I'm great, when I give gratitudes in the morning, thank you for letting me serve in this way.

• 24:46Speaker 01

  I want to help entrepreneurs create that a hopeful, compelling and abundant future because I think that's what humanity needs. So it's a purpose driven mindset. You know, I talk about a moonshot mindset going 10 times bigger, an abundance mindset where you're not worried about some deal you lost. There's going to be 10 times number of deals next year. And then finally longevity mindset. And, you know, to come back to longevity, what a longevity mindset is if you believe that we are in this period of extraordinary scientific technological growth and that you have a crack at having an extra 30 years of health.

• 25:29Speaker 01

  Then, and to get access to that, you should take care of yourself.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  It's what, it's what's gonna keep you from eating that piece of chocolate cake at night. Right? It's what's gonna get you out of a warm cozy bed and into the gym. It's what's gonna help you get to bed on time. You know, longevity mindset is, I care about my longevity. I wanna see much of this universe as I can. We're in the middle of this extraordinary opportunity. And I'm gonna do what it takes to get myself to that launchpad.

• 26:07Tom Bilyeu?

  What do you think about something like an Ozempic? Or something where you can kind of skirt around the mindset of it all and just be like, well?

• 26:14Speaker 01

  I think it's a tool. I think Ozempic is a tool that is a godsend for certain people who absolutely need it. I think it's a crutch for other people who should basically just stop eating the donuts, damn it, and get into the gym. So if you're using Ozempic, the dangers are, and I'm sure everybody's heard this before, that much of the weight you lose is muscle mass. Which again, is your longevity organ. And if you go off Ozempic, you gain back the weight, but not the muscle.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  And so if you wanna use Ozempic for a period of three or four months to train yourself to eat healthy, to get good habits. I added this in the book last. I added an entire chapter on routines, on habits. Cause for me, the, the most important thing I've, I've done in the last five years is develop really great habits. Like what I do, you know, it's like I'm in bed at nine thirty at night. Why? Because my body wakes up at five thirty and I want those eight hours of sleep. And at five thirty, the first two hours are mine. And I'm going to do my red light, I'm gonna meditate, I'm gonna work out, I'm gonna write a blog.

• 27:35Speaker 01

  And that's my routine. And it, I, I feel comfortable, I feel empowered when I do that routine. And then the rest of the day goes on for the rest of the day. But routines are really important. And so can you get into good habits? Right? A habit is a, and a routine is a mechanism by which you don't negotiate with yourself all the time.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  So use Ozempic if you're using it to get into good, healthy eating habits and don't use it as a crutch.

• 28:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I worry that there's anytime you're taking an exogenous substance, there's going to be a second and third order consequence of people.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  So the GLP-1 agonist that and there's, I talk about this in the book, there are a number of things you can do, which are nat, which naturally cause the same effects as Ozempic, like just chewing your food obsessively for 20, choose before most of us. Unfortunately, dinner looks like this in front of the TV and the worst thing you could possibly do is eat dinner, watching the crisis news network at night, which puts you in a sympathetic nervous state, a fight or flight state, and you don't absorb any of the nutrients. It's like the worst thing. It's why you want to take a deep breath, slow it down, you know, do grace with your family, tell gratitudes, enjoy that.

• 28:59Tom Bilyeu?

  What do you tell people, speaking of crisis news network, what do you tell people about like politics? I know you don't really pay attention to it. You've been extraordinarily successful. What's your thought?

• 29:14Speaker 01

  Listen, like you, but not as much, I've become a little bit more aware, wary and respectful of the importance of having the right systems in place for governance.

• 29:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Is that, do you think that's us getting older or is that there really is something unique about this?

• 29:36Speaker 01

  I think it is us getting older, us having more to lose, us.

• 29:44Speaker 01

  You know, I, one of the other things I think about is that, you know,

• 29:52Speaker 01

  When will we have the, you know, we don't have revolutions very easily anymore to create new governments. So I think, how would we create new government systems? I think we will have the chance to experiment with new governments off Earth, on Mars.

• 30:08Tom Bilyeu?

  Whoa, I didn't see that until coming.

• 30:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:11Tom Bilyeu?

  How near term is that? How realistic do you give us being able to create a sustainable colony on Mars?

• 30:19Speaker 01

  So whether it's on Mars, or it's on the moon, or it's in what are called O'Neill colonies, which are large containments of a thousand or a million people.

• 30:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Orbiting?

• 30:30Speaker 01

  Orbiting the sun, maybe, maybe in a co-orbit with the Earth. I think we'll see that in the next 20 years, and it's a non, it's a nonlinear projection. Why is it nonlinear? Because of AI again. So I want you to imagine, right? So first of all, holy shit, Starship, oh my God, Elon, oxygen out of the room, like, you know, drop the mic moment, Starship being caught by those.

• 31:00Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, I've watched it so many times.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  Oh my God. And in March, hopefully, we're going to see the, the actual Starship, this upper stage, if you would, also come back. First time we can see a fully reusable vehicle, which is like the holy growl of the aerospace industry. It was like, always like, when will we see that? That ship is the Mayflower. It is the, you know, the workhorse that will take us to the moon, take us to Mars. All other government space programs, all other aerospace companies, you know, pale in comparison, right? There's the US space program, there's the Chinese space program, and there's the Elon space program.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  So how will we get to Mars and to O'Neill colonies and the moon at an accelerated rate? Well, we can send humanoid robots powered by AIs to go do all the work, prepare everything, build it, get it ready. So we land there, it's not landing and like one small step and you're in a spacesuit. You're walking into, you know, a fully built out habitat with liquid water that's been mined and fuel that exists and energy sources. I mean. That's an extraordinary future. Now, the interesting thing is what we said a few, you know, hour ago or so was the Fermi paradox.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  At some point, um, living in a virtual Mars may be far more enticing than going physically to Mars.

• 32:35Tom Bilyeu?

  You know what I think is going to happen?

• 32:36Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 32:37Tom Bilyeu?

  You're going to go to Mars, if for no other reason than Elon is so hardcore about it. It's actually going to happen and you will get the people like the guys that responded to Shackleton's notice for this is going to be hard, probably going to die, but it'll still be kind of cool.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  I love that notice.

• 32:51Tom Bilyeu?

  So good. Oh God, that thing's amazing. Uh, so they'll go, but they will live inside of, they'll spend time inside of virtual worlds while they're there as a way to break up the claustrophobia of basically being trapped inside. Uh, I remember the first time I put on a VR headset, I was like, oh, this is interesting. This would have zapped a lot of my desire to get rich if I knew that I could just put this on and live inside of a beautiful mansion while I have it on. It's really, really impactful and as it gets better. Stick around, we're hitting pause, but when we come back, Peter lays out how to take advantage of the biggest wealth creation opportunities of the next decade.

• 33:38Speaker 02

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• 34:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for staying tuned. Now, let's get back to it.

• 34:13Speaker 01

  By the way, you own Oculus, right?

• 34:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 34:15Speaker 01

  And you own a Vision Pro?

• 34:17Tom Bilyeu?

  Of course.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  How many times you use your Vision Pro?

• 34:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Not many.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. I bought it, I used it twice, and it's under my desk.

• 34:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah. It'll have to get better.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:28Tom Bilyeu?

  But I assumed that would be the case, but in terms of, like, have you seen that demo where the person is wearing it, walking through their kitchen, they're like, "Make it look like the 50s, make it look like an alien landscape." It's unbelievable.

• 34:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, that is coming, that is coming. And, you know, Sora just got released by OpenAI, and you're gonna be able to generate anything you want.

• 34:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 34:52Speaker 01

  You know, I was, it was interesting, I was at the Louvre and I was like, "Wow, this is so beautiful." You know, we couldn't recreate this now with all of the physical architecture and all the artistry and so forth. And I was like, "Huh." Actually, you just wanna have a house with white walls and white ceilings and just be wearing virtual eye gear all the time, and you can make it look like anything.

• 35:15Tom Bilyeu?

  And when it's lightweight, that is exactly what people do. Dude, AR is something people do not, I don't think they understand what's gonna happen. Like, that's gonna be really near-term transformative.

• 35:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:25Tom Bilyeu?

  I'm really excited about that one. But I wanna go back to space for a second. So, rank order, the three. So we've got the moon, we've got Mars, and we've got the...

• 35:35Speaker 01

  We've got the O'Neill colonies, yes.

• 35:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 35:37Speaker 01

  So we're going back to the moon first, and we will be there.

• 35:42Tom Bilyeu?

  Elon's going back to the moon?

• 35:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, 100%. So Elon is going, and Jeff Bezos, I'm saying people, right? It's SpaceX and Blue Origin. So Blue Origin is, I knew Jeff in college. I started, my first organization ever was Students for Exploration and Development of Space, SEDS, and it was a national network of college-based groups. And Jeff ran the Princeton chapter, and I was the national chairman. And I remember meeting him years later after he started Amazon. And I'm like, Jeff, like, what's this Amazon thing? I thought you were gonna do space. And he goes, yeah, I'm gonna make my money in Amazon first and then do it in space. Not a bad shot. And one, two plan, real easy.

• 36:24Speaker 01

  So he's spending about a billion dollars a year and he's been doing his suborbital flights. But he has new, um, uh, new Glenn, um, which will be, uh, his orbital vehicle. Hopefully will launch this year. So there are two or three companies. There's SpaceX, there's Blue Origin, uh, there's Relativity Space, um, that are building large vehicles right now.

• 36:54Speaker 01

  So Starship, there's another vehicle that's been developed by the government, by Boeing and Lockheed, and it'll get canceled. It's just way behind budget and Starship, uh, will, I think, be on the moon within, within two years. Whoa. And when it does, it'll have the ability to carry 50 people, not two, like we had, right? We're on the moon last on December 17th of 1972, uh, with Jack Schmidt and Gene Cernan. I know it was Gene Cernan, I think it was Jack Schmidt, um, as well. And we haven't been back since, but, uh, with humans. But we'll go there and we'll start to set up bases on the moon.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  And the moon will be an incredible habitat where science will get done, research will get done. And we'll develop, uh, a human presence, a permanent human presence. Probably in the dozens to hundreds of people will permanently habitat there. It'll be more like the Arctic, Antarctic type research bases, right? Independent of that, uh, this is when I was interviewing Elon in Riyadh, uh, at the FI conference. And I asked him, when are we going to Mars? And he said, I'm making a shot to get Starship to Mars in the next two years. So there will be a peril effort to go to Mars.

• 38:18Speaker 01

  You know, he has been pretty right on a lot of things. His timing is kind of off sometimes. But there's an incredible opportunity, um, which sounds like I challenge America to put humans on the surface of Mars, you know, by the end of this decade and get them, get them back. Maybe not the back part, but I think boots on Mars will be probably optimist robots on Mars first.

• 38:45Tom Bilyeu?

  Makes sense.

• 38:46Speaker 01

  Um, and then humans to follow. So I mean, it's, you know, listen, the, the Star Trek fan in me, it's like, we got data coming, we got starships coming. It's pretty awesome.

• 38:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Pretty awesome. Now, uh, is it that you cannot build an atmosphere on the moon? Because no one's talking about terraforming the moon, but they do talk about terraforming Mars.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's that the moon doesn't have enough gravitational pull to retain an atmosphere.

• 39:13Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay.

• 39:15Speaker 01

  And there is a very interesting opportunity there. The moon has large lava tubes. Like huge caverns that are under the lunar surface and you can fill them with atmosphere.

• 39:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Whoa.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  And one of the cool things you could do inside those lava tubes on the moon filled with atmosphere is fly. Cause a human with a pair of wings has enough muscle strength in one sixth gravity.

• 39:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh my God.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Wow. Have you ever been on zero G with me?

• 39:47Tom Bilyeu?

  I have.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay. All right. And so.

• 39:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Incredible.

• 39:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. So those of you don't know, you can fly, uh, a parabolic flight, uh, in zero G. Uh, and one of my greatest moments in life was taking Stephen Hawking up in weightlessness and letting the world's expert in gravity experience zero gravity.

• 40:06Tom Bilyeu?

  That's cool.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  And it's something everybody can do. If you go zero G dot com and the airplane barn storms around the country and we fly at Long Beach and Las Vegas and Florida, other places. And we do 15 of these arcs. The first, uh, two are Martian. So you feel one third of your weight. Then we do a couple of lunar, you feel one sixth of your weight and then a dozen or so zero G parabolas. So, um, yeah, space, there's a resurgence, right? And at the same time, another holy shit moment, Starlink OMG, right? On our way to 12,000 satellites, uh, providing 100 megabit to gigabit connection speeds to every square meter on the planet. And now to my T-Mobile phone. Wow.

• 40:52Tom Bilyeu?

  No, that's bananas.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  It is.

• 40:55Tom Bilyeu?

  All right. So rank order for me.

• 40:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 40:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Which one?

• 40:57Speaker 01

  So moon is first. Moon is first, and we'll build that out over the next decade. It'll get more and more capabilities. It'll be science driven mostly. You know, we can do great astronomy there. We can, on the dark side, we can see far. Instead of building, you know, the web telescope in Earth orbit, you build it on the dark side of the moon, and you can see the universe from there. We'll get missions to Mars over the course of the next decade as well. And terraforming Mars is a much bigger endeavor.

• 41:37Speaker 01

  And it's gonna be fraught with political like, how dare you bomb Mars? You know, you know, because the best way to terraform it is sort of like throw rocks at the poles and increase the atmospheric density of CO2 and maybe some nukes on the poles. But we'll do enclosures there as well.

• 41:55Tom Bilyeu?

  Like the lava tubes?

• 41:57Speaker 01

  Well, no, surface enclosures. We'll build

• 42:00Tom Bilyeu?

  Got it.

• 42:01Speaker 01

  domed cities. And we have, but the good thing about Mars is it's got a large water supply, right, and ice. And it's got CO2. It's got oxygen bound in the iron, which makes it red, right? It's rust. And so there's lots of resources there. And so we'll, we'll, we'll do that. I, I think the future of humanity in space is in the realm of the O'Neill colonies. Gerard K. O'Neill, another mentor, said, why would you ever go back into a gravitational well? And so he had a concept of these large cylindrical tubes.

• 42:46Speaker 01

  Think like a half kilometer diameter and you know, a couple kilometers long that are rotating at a right speed to create centrifugal force on the inside and you live on the inside of this tube. The materials are either off the lunar surface, but much easier to get them out of asteroids. And you have AI and robots to do this manufacturing. And you can have a population of 10,000 people or more living inside there. As they get older, they can move towards the center of rotation. And you know, the gravity goes as omega squared R, their

• 43:30Speaker 01

  centrifugal acceleration and radius. So as you get to zero towards the center, it becomes lighter and lighter. So you can live in a lower gravity environment if you want. But here's the interesting thing from the politics side, if you have like a group of 10, 50, 100,000 people and they're having political disagreements, you say, okay, listen, we're gonna bud, we're gonna build another one over here. And the Democrats can go there, the Republicans can go there and stop the fighting. And you know, this is, listen, I love Elon and all that he's done. He's got a Mars vision. Jeff Bezos, because he was at Princeton, same place that Gerard K. O'Neill was, his vision is much more of this O'Neillian vision of these colonies and such.

• 44:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Wow, that's really interesting. Okay, so ballpark me, when will the first O'Neill colony spin up?

• 44:22Speaker 01

  Oh, I think that's, if in fact, humanity still has, has the drive to want to do this, I think that is probably more like, I don't know, there's gonna be a lot of trillionaires by then. And a lot of low cost labor. So if I said 30 years, that might be pessimistic, but I'll say 30 years.

• 44:48Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, that's incredible. Well, you're certainly giving me a lot of reasons to want to live forever.

• 44:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, I think I'll just let me hit that one second, because I think when I'm, when I'm with my abundance community and I'm talking about longevity and such, I'm like, listen, the number one thing. Besides all of the stuff on food, diet, exercise, meds, supplements, not dying from something stupid, is having a purpose and having a vision. And if I said to you, listen, I'm gonna give you 20 extra healthy years, Tom, what are you gonna do with those 20 years? I think most people can figure that out. Now, if I said to you, you got 50 extra years, a lot of people's brains break on that. Like, I don't know what to do with 50 extra years.

• 45:34Tom Bilyeu?

  It's a big difference.

• 45:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:37Tom Bilyeu?

  So you've talked a lot about don't die from something stupid. So we've already heard sugar. What else can we do to make sure that we don't die from something stupid?

• 45:46Speaker 01

  So the chapter on that, and it's a really important message for everybody, which is our bodies are really good at hiding disease. You think you're fine, but you have no idea. So it turns out, and these stats are pretty scary. 70% of all heart attacks have no pre- no shortness of breath, no signs, even on a typical calcium score, you can have a calcium score of zero and have a heart attack that night. Because it's not the calcified plaque, it's the soft plaque.

• 46:29Speaker 01

  You don't feel a cancer until stage three or stage four. You know, we all know people who go to the hospital with a pain and the doctor says, well, I'm sorry to tell you this, but you've got this situation going on, this cancer, or whatever the case might be. It didn't happen that morning. It's been going on for some time. You just didn't know it. And here's the stunner. 70% of the cancers that kill you are never tested for.

• 46:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Yo.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  Right? So we test for breast and prostate and colon. But we don't test for, you know, we don't test for pancreatic cancer or for glioblastomas or a whole slew of other cancers. It's just not part of the routine medical care. And You can know what's going on inside your body.

• 47:23Speaker 01

  And people go, I don't want to know. And I was like, bullshit, of course you want to know. You're going to find out eventually. You want to know now, we can do something about it or when it's too late. So, um, uh, four years ago, I joined with Bill Cap and Tony Robbins, and we built this company called Fountain Life. And it's, I built it for myself and my family and the friends that I love. I put my CEOs and my companies through it. And there are these 10,000 foot diagnostic centers. They're diagnostics and therapeutics. And, uh, you go through, it's about four and a half hours. And we digitize you, upload you, uh, full body MRI, brain, brain vasculature. It's a coronary CT, looking at your coronary arteries,

• 48:07Speaker 01

  but using an AI overlay called Clearly, looking for soft plaque, which is what will kill you. Uh, a low dust lung CT, a DEXA scan, your full genome, your metabolome, your microbiome, your retinal scan, your skin scans. It's all the data we can collect about you. It's 300 gigabytes, I'm sorry, 200 gigabytes of data. And, and here are the numbers. 2% of our members who are seemingly healthy, they think they're fine, have a cancer they don't know about. Right? Two out of 100. 2.5% have an aneurysm they don't know about. And 14.4% have either metabolic disease, neurocognitive disease, cardiovascular disease,

• 48:51Speaker 01

  or a cancer, and they need to take action right away. And so I go through this Fountain Apex upload every year. I kind of hold my breath. And we are there to answer two questions. Number one, is there anything going on inside your body you need to know about? And if there is, let's take care of it right away. And number two, what is likely to happen to you? And how do we optimize you to prevent that from happening? Because this is the world we're living in right now. Right, so I call this not dying from something stupid. It's not cheap. It's nineteen thousand five hundred bucks for the full body upload, but also includes a medical wraparound team.

• 49:36Speaker 01

  So it's quarterly testing. You get a functional medicine doctor who's with you the entire year, a nurse, a dietitian, a health coach. And that wraparound helps you really optimize yourself. We just are launching now a program at sixty five hundred dollars, which includes the upload and the first consult. And we're doing it through companies for their employees. And all of this is going to demonetize at the end. Right, it's all going to get cheaper and cheaper every year as AI. The humans are still the expensive part. Right, the machinery is getting cheaper. Where eventually, we have a program called Fountain Life at Home. Because all of this will move out of the doctor's office,

• 50:21Speaker 01

  out of the hospitals into your home. Right, so I've got a CGM, an Oura Ring, an Apple Watch. And I'll eventually have dozens of sensors on my body, in my body, uploading to my AI, which is monitoring everything all the time. And my AI is going to be sending information to the robot chef in my kitchen, saying, this is what Peter should be eating tonight. You know, it's interesting, close the loop. If you turn on Health Coach, it'll say, hey lazy, don't take the elevator. There's a staircase over there. Or time to get out of bed. Or you can turn that off if you want. But, you know, it's good to have someone with you supporting you. So when I talk about not dying from something stupid, it's going through Fountain Life.

• 51:07Speaker 01

  There are other programs as well. I think we've got the best, most comprehensive program out there. And I still want you to come through it.

• 51:15Tom Bilyeu?

  No, man, for sure. A hundred percent. If it's in LA, that's easy.

• 51:20Speaker 01

  But you know, that's six months out. I've had so many, we've saved so many lives.

• 51:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, this terrifying. I know you had a fraternity.

• 51:29Speaker 01

  I had a fraternity brother of mine who was supposed to come in and died in his sleep.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  I had, do you know Sam Nazarian by any chance?

• 51:38Tom Bilyeu?

  No.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  So Sam was the head, is hotelier, very successful, the head of SLS Hotels. And he and Tony Robbins and a few others started something called the Estates. And these will be 25 six-star resorts and residences around the world. And we're, we cut a deal, well, he approached us, he looked at all the other players and he chose us. And we're going to embed fountain life into all of those resorts and developments. So he came, I said, come through Orlando, our headquarters, and go through the process. Now, Sam and his wife have the best physicians in the world. Went through, we found two brain aneurysms.

• 52:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Ooh.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  And he was in surgery a week later.

• 52:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Jesus.

• 52:26Speaker 01

  He's fine now, he's publicly, he said, you know, made this public statement. So I'm okay sharing it, but you just never know.

• 52:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Too true. Speaking of what we may never know, tell me, will we see people live to an average life expectancy of 150 first? Or a million people living either in an O'Neill sphere, on the moon or Mars?

• 52:48Speaker 01

  Oh, I think we'll hit the longevity side first.

• 52:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah?

• 52:51Speaker 01

  Oh, for sure.

• 52:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay. Wow. It's pretty near term.

• 52:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I, I think that

• 53:00Speaker 01

  it's under, it's going to, it's not magic, it's not, it's just not understood why we age.

• 53:11Speaker 01

  Let me say that differently. We have a lot of theories of why we age. There are the hallmarks of aging, there are 12 things that we believe are causing aging. And there's a chapter on, I take about, God, now, 80, 85 meds and supplements every day. And people are like, what do you take? And why do you take it? And how do you decide? And so I laid out in the book, and it's not for everybody. It's, I've gotten there a little bit of time in consultation with my doctors. And

• 53:43Speaker 01

  I looked at each of these 12 hallmarks of aging like like stem cell exhaustion or mitochondrial failures and there are supplements and meds to support each one of them. So I break it down for each one of these hallmarks. These are the meds or supplements that I'm taking to counter that. And again, everybody should do should develop their own plan in consultation with a physician. There will eventually be an AI that takes in your genetics, takes in all your health data, says, what's your objective, Tom? Do you want more muscle? Do you want more mental clarity? You want better sleep? What do you want? And how many pills you willing to take per day? Right, which is an important one. I'm only willing to take 10.

• 54:27Speaker 01

  Okay, these are the top 10 you should take.

• 54:29Tom Bilyeu?

  How many do you take a day?

• 54:30Speaker 01

  Like 85 now. Yeah, when I wrote the book, it was 75. It's gone up. Um, my mom says, hey, how do you know they don't interfere with each other? I say, Mom, I don't. I don't, but I'm doing, I feel great.

• 54:42Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 54:43Speaker 01

  I am doing great. So, you know, so far, so good.

• 54:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Absolutely fascinating. What is the craziest thing you think we're going to find at the intersection of health and tech? Like near term?

• 54:54Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Oh, I got this. Do you know that we just mapped the connectome of the brain of a fruit fly?

• 55:08Tom Bilyeu?

  So all the different synaptic connections?

• 55:10Speaker 01

  So the fruit fly has 154,000 neurons and I think 54 million synapses. And we used, we used an AI to map that exact connection of the fruit fly and put it up into a computer model. And so you can say, if we did this to the fruit fly, touched it here, gave it this kind of chemical, whatever, what would it do? And then do it and it does the exact same thing. Whoa. Right. And so here's what's next. We'll go from the fruit fly connectome to a mouse. On stage at the abundance summit this year on my moonshot day, I've got the seal of a company

• 55:56Speaker 01

  that is brilliant, what they're doing and how they're doing it, who believes he can map the connectome of our brains for about $50 million for the first one. Whoa. Our 100 billion neurons, 100 trillion synaptic connections. So, you know, the brain has always been somewhat of a black box. Wow. So that's one. There's another one. Oh, my God. Do you know Mary Lou Jepson? Hmm, that name sounds familiar. God almighty, she is incredible. Dear, dear friend. Full disclosure, I'm an advisor and investor through my venture fund in her company called Open Water. She's brilliant. So here's a woman who is head of engineering at Facebook,

• 56:41Speaker 01

  at, at Google, at, at Intel. She ran the first, the one laptop per child program with Nicholas, a PhD in holography, professor at MIT. I mean, really brilliant. Who as a teenager into college has a brain tumor undiagnosed. And she's dropping out of her PhD program to go home and die. Oh, my God. And her, one of her professors says, listen, I think you should have an MRI. And he pays for her to have an MRI and they discover a brain tumor that was undiagnosed.

• 57:27Speaker 01

  And she has surgery and she gets fully cured. She had to have her pituitary removed, so she takes a whole bunch of meds every day just to do pharmaceutical replacement.

• 57:42Speaker 01

  She.

• 57:44Speaker 01

  Is, I can't sing her praise enough. This woman will get the Nobel Prize for her work. So what has she done? She has learned how to use the consumer electronics industry. Like our cameras on these phones are miracles of what they're able to do. She has created devices that are micro-minitrized. They've gone from a room size of equipment down to something about the size of a block like this, like a thousand times smaller, a thousand times cheaper, that is able to use infrared, infrared light holography and ultrasound to do a number of things.

• 58:25Speaker 01

  So number one, her devices which you, which you attach on your head with a headband can detect whether you're having a stroke or not, and which will say it's, stroke's the number two killers in the world. Unfortunately, by the time you diagnose someone is having a stroke, a lot of times it's way too late. The hospital doesn't have the tech to solve the stroke. If you diagnose it early, 100% recovery, right? So this device she'll put in every ambulance so that you can detect whether they have a stroke or not. All right, next thing, this device, she's able to guide the exact energy of ultrasound and infrared to different parts of the brain.

• 59:06Speaker 01

  And she has determined, she built brain organoids. A brain organoid is a, take human neural stem cells and grow a small brain. Okay, they do, it's, it's been done for a while now. You can, you can do a kidney organoid, a lung organoid, a liver organoid, a brain organoid, a heart organ. So it's, it's a collection, you know, could be the size of your thumb, whatever, but tens of millions of those cells. And what she did was she developed one of those brain organoids that had glioblastoma tumors in them, which is, it's a, today if anybody gets glioblastoma as a diagnosis,

• 59:50Speaker 01

  its death ends like in months, maybe a year.

• 59:55Speaker 01

  And what she found was because these tumor cells are so rapidly growing, there's a whole segment on on her, because they're rapidly growing, the cells are mostly all nucleus with very little cytoplasm, because the nucleus is dividing and creating another one and dividing creating another one, doesn't have time for the cytoplasm to grow. Right. And so because it's very different than the other cells that are mostly cytoplasm with the nucleus, and this is all nucleus, is a different resonance frequency. And so what she has been able to do is use the ultrasound from one of these little devices to be able to rupture all of the cancer cells in the glioblastoma in your brain.

• 1:00:40Speaker 01

  Whoa. And basically, it's going into humans next, it's been done in mice, it cures them of their glioblastoma. Wow. Gets better. She's been able to identify if you have mental disorders or addiction, she can provide a five-minute-per-day treatment with this device that will down-regulate your ADD or your depression or your addiction, five minutes a day.

• 1:01:18Speaker 01

  I mean, that would be transformative. It is transformative, right? I mean, she's amazing. So you asked me about what I'm expecting in the short term, so she ended up, she did some early financing rounds, I helped her raise money, my venture company invested, and then she had this huge hurdle to productize this stuff, because her goal was like, I need to get this really cheap and available to as many people as possible. She went to Vitalik Buterin, the founder of Ethereum. Yeah, yeah. And he said, if you open source it, I'll give you $50 million to do what you need to do. Wow. So he did, didn't ask for any equity.

• 1:02:02Speaker 01

  And she's open sourced it. And so these devices will be manufactured, available to people around the world. And it will become software as medication. So imagine these devices, and she has a whole bunch of different form factors for different parts of the body. And a research lab will be able to say, okay, I want to address this type of inflammatory bowel disease using infrared. And, and there'll be thousands of people using these devices as new medical diagnostic and therapeutic tools that will cost effectively nothing.

• 1:02:38Tom Bilyeu?

  Wow.

• 1:02:38Speaker 01

  I mean, I just, I, I, I'm sorry, there's a hundred stories like this, which is why I'm so extraordinarily excited about this health span revolution coming.

• 1:02:46Tom Bilyeu?

  What do you see as you extend the timeline out? What's the craziest intersection of health and tech that you see in a mid to long term?

• 1:02:54Speaker 01

  BCI, brain computer interface. The ability to connect your brain seamlessly to the cloud and be able

• 1:03:05Tom Bilyeu?

  You see that as long term, even though we're

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no, I don't, I don't see that long term. I see that in the next decade. One of the guys I have on stage in, in March at the abundance summit is Max Hodak, who is the co-founder of Neuralink, and he's got a new company called Science, which blows away Neuralink.

• 1:03:24Tom Bilyeu?

  It's a bold statement.

• 1:03:25Speaker 01

  It is a bold statement. What he's done in terms of being able to, you know, Neuralink will have like a thousand connections into the neocortex. And when you put these connections in, even something, a fraction of a human cell, a human hair, still kills cells and disrupts cells when you put them in. And the immune system encapsulates them later. He's developed a mechanism by which he grows neural stem cells out of a electronic circuitry. And the neural stem cells grow into the brain.

• 1:04:08Tom Bilyeu?

  What?

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  Like roots into the ground.

• 1:04:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, this is sci fi.

• 1:04:14Speaker 01

  Dude, yes. Yes. I mean, this is stuff I spend all day researching, investing and thinking about, writing about, because I can't, I can't sleep with all this stuff going on. And instead of like a thousand connections into the brain, how about a million or 10 million connections into the brain? And you know, our corpus callosum that connects the right and left half of the brain? Imagine another hemisphere of the brain.

• 1:04:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Whoa.

• 1:04:45Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:04:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Whoa.

• 1:04:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:47Tom Bilyeu?

  That is nuts.

• 1:04:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Peter, every time I spend time with you, it is absolutely extraordinary. Where can people follow along with you?

• 1:04:54Speaker 01

  So first of all, Longevity Guidebook, you can get it at cost while on Amazon. I donate all that money from Amazon to the X Prize. I'm offering it at, you know, at cost, everybody at longevityguidebook.com. There's a whole bunch of additional bonuses and videos and all kinds of stuff there. So please, my job is to get this out as far and wide to as many people as possible. I don't need more revenue from a book. I want to get this out to the world, right? Because we're living in this amazing time. My podcast is called Moonshots. Someday I hope to aspire to what the incredible job you've done, my friend.

• 1:05:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, brother, you're killing it.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  And, and dmantis.com and at Peter Diamandis on all social.

• 1:05:43Tom Bilyeu?

  I love it. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, be sure to subscribe. And until next time, my friends, be legendary. Take care. Peace.

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