Hanna Farah on Matt, Cars, Cats, and More

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

  What's up everybody? Welcome to the Smoking Tire Podcast. Today's episode is brought to you as always by Off the Record. We love Off the Record and so do you. You constantly email me to tell me about how much you love it. Three emails this week, dismiss, dismiss, dismiss. These guys are just absolutely crushing it over there. I absolutely love Off the Record. Use code TST25 on the Off the Record app or go to offtherecord.com/tst to get 10% off all your legal bookings from Off the Record as a little gift from us. They cover 97%

• 0:41Matt Farah?

  of America. They work with local lawyers who know the jurisdiction where you've been pulled over and know that system and boy, do they get it done. Again, on the app, code TST25 or with the website, it's offtherecord.com/tst. Very, very easy. All right, folks, on this episode of the podcast, my Mrs. Hannah Farah is in studio with me talking a pretty big game. She's got chops this one. She answers your questions about me and then she has some questions of her own to see if I'm a good husband or

• 1:24Matt Farah?

  not, if I listen, if I'm attentive. This is a fun 90 minutes of radio. Our patrons really brought some good questions and enjoy. It's me and my wife and this is what it's like to be in our house, but it's on the Smoking Tire Podcast.

• 1:43Speaker 01

  Do you just wish Paul was here right now?

• 1:45Matt Farah?

  Corporate America. Okay. Hi, everybody.

• 1:49Speaker 01

  Let's talk about that you said drat about Paul not being here.

• 1:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I am-

• 1:57Speaker 01

  Drat, my wife.

• 1:59Matt Farah?

  Oh, please. I am legitimately, I, did you see how many, like, I did, I, I thought hard about Paul not, like, being here.

• 2:10Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:10Matt Farah?

  No, I thought I-

• 2:11Speaker 01

  I know, but you thought about Paul being here after I had said I would do this with you and then you're all, "Thanks."

• 2:16Matt Farah?

  Oh, this?

• 2:17Speaker 01

  Let me tap, tap, tap, tap and get Paul.

• 2:19Matt Farah?

  We're just gonna dive bomb into the fact.

• 2:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, let's just start with that.

• 2:24Speaker 01

  So reluctantly, here I am.

• 2:26Matt Farah?

  Oh shit, here we go. Here we go, alright.

• 2:29Speaker 01

  It's fine, it's totally fine. Nothing's wrong.

• 2:32Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, people, people, people are saying that Paul Zuckerman was gonna be amazing guest on the show.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Paul Zuckerman, of course, would be an amazing guest on the show.

• 2:43Matt Farah?

  It was, it was, it was a lead up.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  It's more the statement that my husband likes him more than me.

• 2:49Matt Farah?

  As a fucking radio guest. As a radio guest.

• 2:54Speaker 01

  I know, but let's remember, you spent the whole day today.

• 2:56Matt Farah?

  And potentially as a car collector, and also potentially as an interior decorator. And also, if I was collecting-

• 3:03Speaker 01

  I don't think you should continue on with this list.

• 3:04Matt Farah?

  Vintage Harley-Davidson Hell's Angels memorabilia, I'd probably go with Zuckerman. On everything else in the world-

• 3:11Speaker 01

  He has great taste in wallpaper.

• 3:12Matt Farah?

  I go with my wife, Hannah Farah, who it's apparently all like roast me today.

• 3:19Speaker 01

  It's not true. It's not true.

• 3:22Matt Farah?

  Well, are we, are we, are we good there?

• 3:25Speaker 01

  I think we're good, yeah.

• 3:26Matt Farah?

  We're here, now we can do radio?

• 3:29Speaker 01

  Let's begin.

• 3:29Matt Farah?

  Oh boy, we have many, I mean, I didn't, the best part about this was like, I actually didn't have to think of anything to talk about, even though I have some, some framing that we should start.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  After you got over the disappointment of having-

• 3:45Matt Farah?

  After I drowned my sorrows. This, the last time we did this, which was like, three years ago, was a little wine drunky, also.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  Me and you?

• 3:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, both of us were wine drunky.

• 3:55Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 3:56Matt Farah?

  We did it with like, a webcam in the upstairs office in the Venice house.

• 3:59Speaker 01

  The worst lighting, it looked like we were both interrog- being interrogated by the police.

• 4:02Matt Farah?

  Well, lighting like that is why we had Jay Ryan make it nice up here.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Alright, whirly gig.

• 4:08Matt Farah?

  Um, we have, we have so many questions about our marriage from the Patreon, which I have let you preview. People are so nice.

• 4:15Speaker 01

  People are lovely. First of all, I really wanna commend the patrons' names.

• 4:20Matt Farah?

  Oh, usernames?

• 4:21Speaker 01

  Usernames. And what's funny about that to me is, it seems, looking at these, that like, if they're patrons of three different podcasts, they could have three different usernames.

• 4:29Matt Farah?

  Not only that, they can change their usernames frequently. So sometimes, there's people that-

• 4:35Speaker 01

  How come no one has changed their username to Hannah? Just out of curiosity.

• 4:40Matt Farah?

  I think like, you know, like the mob, like families are off limits.

• 4:46Matt Farah?

  You know, I don't, I don't think, I don't think you're supposed to, to hit like that. You know?

• 4:52Speaker 01

  Fair, yeah.

• 4:52Matt Farah?

  Like if you on this podcast like-

• 4:54Speaker 01

  What if I was one of your patrons?

• 4:55Matt Farah?

  Well, what if you drop like a bomb, oh, it was on the slide?

• 4:58Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 4:59Matt Farah?

  So like, for the last like, two and a half years, you've been like sliding ten a month-

• 5:04Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 5:05Matt Farah?

  Back to me, pro driver level?

• 5:06Speaker 01

  And was saving it up until this episode to tell you.

• 5:09Matt Farah?

  And like, wait, let me, should I guess whose username I think you're commenting is? Uh, I think it's Mike Who Cheese Harry. Is that you?

• 5:18Speaker 01

  Absolutely not.

• 5:18Matt Farah?

  No, okay, shit. Um, I don't know, everyone does some real good ones though.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  Anyway, they're very good ones, and what I thought was very sweet in previewing the questions was, they weren't all questions about you. Some of them were just questions about me. Which was so nice.

• 5:35Matt Farah?

  If you, yeah-

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Cause my whole life is people asking me questions about you.

• 5:39Matt Farah?

  Oh, I'm so sorry, except some people, some notable people who were very, who were very nice to you.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, that famous volleyball player told me I had an A sweater.

• 5:46Matt Farah?

  Gabby Reese?

• 5:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 5:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and then she started talking about eating deer and how delicious it was.

• 5:51Speaker 01

  Oh, I don't remember that part.

• 5:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, cause they're like overrunning-

• 5:53Speaker 01

  I was so, I was flying so high on the compliment on my sweater.

• 5:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah, Gabby, she was-

• 5:57Speaker 01

  I mean, hubba, hubba, yeah.

• 5:58Matt Farah?

  Legend of the 90s, um, and, and, and her husband Laird Hamilton was like, "And then I invented-"

• 6:06Speaker 01

  My god.

• 6:06Matt Farah?

  "Kite dive bombing."

• 6:08Speaker 01

  He was like, "I invented the ocean, then I invented fish."

• 6:11Matt Farah?

  I, I, we say that with love, he's a G.

• 6:14Speaker 01

  A hundred percent, but it was a pretty spectacular, the list of things that man invented.

• 6:18Matt Farah?

  "And then I found myself eighty miles offshore on a jet ski with no gas, like, wow, okay." "Stop moving, Hen, I set the cameras for a certain thing."

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Well, I thought my needs could-

• 6:28Matt Farah?

  "You're just making yourself look shorter."

• 6:31Speaker 01

  I know, and I wore horizontal stripes. I'm like, very concerned about the whole thing.

• 6:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah, just, you know-

• 6:36Speaker 01

  I brought a backup sweater.

• 6:37Matt Farah?

  Just don't read the YouTube comments, um, the patrons and the YouTube comments, you, as well you know-

• 6:44Speaker 01

  Oh, I know, yeah.

• 6:45Matt Farah?

  Not the same.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  But my favorite YouTube comment of all time is when, like, multiple people said that Zach and I look alike. That was like, my favorite day.

• 6:53Matt Farah?

  That's, maybe in that angle from our, from, maybe if I, if I fucking like Freddy Krueger light you, that's possible, but I, I gotta say-

• 7:04Speaker 01

  I was honored.

• 7:05Matt Farah?

  "Spend a lot of time with you both, and I don't, and I don't see it."

• 7:08Speaker 01

  I mean, but maybe you have a type.

• 7:10Matt Farah?

  Maybe I don't wanna see it.

• 7:11Speaker 01

  You have a type.

• 7:13Matt Farah?

  I have a type. That's fucking crazy. Oh wow, it got weird in the first seven minutes, huh?

• 7:21Speaker 01

  Do you need me to get taller?

• 7:22Matt Farah?

  No, no, you're fine.

• 7:23Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 7:24Matt Farah?

  Um, okay. So, uh, the, the, we got your, uh, we got a lot of nice, uh, notes about your performance in the take-hand video and your comments about the car.

• 7:35Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 7:35Matt Farah?

  And people asked me, they, they never really got to hear your thoughts on driving the Bentley and how you like driving the Bentley. So now that it's gone and we lost a lot, uh, less money than we, I thought we were gonna lose.

• 7:51Speaker 01

  And we were bracing ourselves for.

• 7:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, right.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:53Matt Farah?

  We lost, we lost very little money.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 7:55Matt Farah?

  Uh, actually quite cheap to drive the Bentley. And then the guy drove it, fucking, the guy drove it, picked it up in San, at San Diego, at Cars and Bids, and then drove it with his mother back to Seattle.

• 8:06Speaker 01

  Oh my God, that's so sweet.

• 8:07Matt Farah?

  And sent me some lovely pictures, which I'll have to post on Instagram. I forgot to do that.

• 8:10Speaker 01

  Did his mother get to ride in the backseat while he was in the front?

• 8:13Matt Farah?

  Uh, I, he, it was a-

• 8:14Speaker 01

  Like my parents did when I drove them around in it?

• 8:17Matt Farah?

  It was a brief conversation. I didn't ask the seating arrangements.

• 8:21Speaker 01

  This is why I should talk.

• 8:23Matt Farah?

  But what do you think, huh?

• 8:24Speaker 01

  Nothing.

• 8:25Matt Farah?

  This is why.

• 8:29Matt Farah?

  Well, listen, you were, you were six months from being my assistant, so.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 8:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Um, anyway.

• 8:35Speaker 01

  Um.

• 8:36Matt Farah?

  Let's, uh, let's hear your thoughts on the Bentley Turbo R.

• 8:40Speaker 01

  Sure. Um, I was actually thinking about this today. I, I mean, I loved this car. I loved the story of how we got it. I loved, you know, the story of it continuing to live on, on our street. I love that it was our daily driver. Um, but I think in total, it was a stressful car to drive. Um.

• 8:58Matt Farah?

  In what way?

• 9:01Speaker 01

  A little bit in its size, I think being low and wide, you know, like high and wide, you're kind of very aware. But pulling into parking spots in that car was really something I did not enjoy doing.

• 9:12Matt Farah?

  It's got a real long hood.

• 9:14Speaker 01

  And, well, and also because you're always giving me crap for not pulling into spots far enough.

• 9:20Matt Farah?

  Well, yeah, no, you don't, you don't get close enough to anything in front, ever. Even in hilariously, the Delica.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  Well, the Delica because I was swapping out with things like long nose Bentley.

• 9:31Matt Farah?

  The Delica, you stop like 12 feet from the car in front of you, and the front of the car is like your literal knees. Like, I watched you do like a couple like 30 inch box jumps today, right in front of me, like you clearly know that distance, and yet you need an extra car in front with a fucking cab over Japanese van, it's weird, your selective ass depth perception.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, it comes and goes, like the hot water in our house.

• 10:00Matt Farah?

  Mid-mod.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  But, but pulling into things, and also it had those very small side mirrors. And I think if we were keeping that car longer term, I would have said, listen, we gotta add on some elephant ear mirrors.

• 10:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know when we'd appreciate those side mirrors? That is one of those, if we were in England, like, you know, they didn't do like a global development program of the Turbo R, they like drove it around fucking Coventry, you know, just like every car from the 1950s and 60s was designed by people in blue suits that never left Detroit, or drove around anything but a 90 degree corner, and that's why all their cars are shitboxes.

• 10:42Speaker 01

  Just like that.

• 10:43Matt Farah?

  But the, but like the other way around, they drove around England, so they have these tiny little mirrors because these hedges are all, seriously, you had to drive through these like mad tiny little hedges, and so having little mirrors makes sense, here in the half desert, where it's wide, it makes no sense, and yeah, so the side visibility sucks.

• 11:02Speaker 01

  And I think the side visibility made me really like, I looked by mirrors, you know, even changing lanes, it was like, check your mirrors, swivel your whole body, come Check your mirror again and then like quick prayer to some.

• 11:14Matt Farah?

  You would pass a driving test today. You'd be like, that's like, like someone in a car, you know, someone rolling a Tesla is their first car would like fail the driving test. Five years later, you would pass a driving test right now.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  Uh, things that ever happened at WCCS was when the guys, uh, two of the guys, one day I was taking one of the cars out and I had hand over the backseat or hand over the seat to reverse and they're like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. And they're like, you know, you have cameras. And I was like, huh? Like, yeah, but I'm older.

• 11:44Matt Farah?

  Not in that car. Yeah, that car, you know, it's a, that it's, it's, it's, it is like that. That's true.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, but ultimately, I mean, I loved it, but I saw one of the Patreon, Patreon questions was around, um, like, I think it was what was the best interaction I had in the Bentley?

• 11:59Matt Farah?

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• 12:43Matt Farah?

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• 14:00Matt Farah?

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• 14:15Speaker 01

  And what was interesting to me about that question was, is I had, I mean, this is all coming back to the patriarchy, my favorite subject, but I had almost no interactions in the Bentley.

• 14:25Matt Farah?

  Shout out to Jack Cusano, uh, patron who asked that.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  And that, that's not me as the patron. That's, that's not my alter ego patron name. I didn't plan that one.

• 14:35Matt Farah?

  Send in all the questions you want. So, you know, episode, the Jerry episode airs next. This is 998.

• 14:42Speaker 01

  I know, I'm the fill-in, go on.

• 14:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah. But there's a couple, Jerry fucking like destroyed me a couple of times. And, uh, I, oh shit, I forgot. Why did I, how did, how did you get me in there that I just like?

• 15:00Speaker 01

  My patron alter ego planting questions about the Bentley.

• 15:03Matt Farah?

  Oh yeah, planting questions.

• 15:05Speaker 01

  So I could talk about the patriarchy.

• 15:06Matt Farah?

  Questions, yeah, yeah. He, he, a couple of times he was like, you know, if I were, if I was asking me.

• 15:14Matt Farah?

  So guys, when you're listening to the next episode, look out for, look out for what Jerry's like, you know, if I was asking me.

• 15:24Matt Farah?

  And there's a couple just

• 15:28Matt Farah?

  just there I there's two or three times in the ninety minutes with him where my soul is decimated.

• 15:37Speaker 01

  I don't like to hear that.

• 15:38Matt Farah?

  No, no, but like, like, I'm, I'm certain it was done out of love and respect and him being a, a, just a tough comedian who is just, his, he's throwing shit because that's what he does for fun.

• 15:51Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 15:52Matt Farah?

  Um, and when we left and got back in the car, Zach was like, he really likes you. And I was like, I don't know, man. I think my fucking, I think my soul just left my body. And he was like, no, no, no, no. And he's been emailing me some stuff like unrelated things we chatted about, uh, what do you call adolescence?

• 16:09Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 16:09Matt Farah?

  Which, you know, go watch that shit. Um, but anyway, uh, the part of it was the, I want everybody to listen for when he goes, I would ask myself this question. It's just like, the indicator of like, what you're asking me is not good enough.

• 16:28Speaker 01

  I would just like to point out.

• 16:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  He decimated your soul as a sign of affection. When we first started dating and I would pinch you with my toes.

• 16:38Matt Farah?

  That physically hurt.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  Of affection.

• 16:40Matt Farah?

  It was, you drew blood once.

• 16:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. And the more blood, the more love. That's, that's the rule, isn't it?

• 16:46Matt Farah?

  The more, the more blood, the more, it, the higher the felony count. Zach actually, someone today, I was on someone else's podcast and they, I don't think they had started recording and they, as someone as a joke was talking about, oh, they learned about using Zoom because their kids were like doing Zoom classes and whatever. And they were like in high school. And they were like, and, and all the guys in the high school were like showing their asses on Zoom. I was like, and how funny it was. And I was like, I think that's a good crime. I'm not sure, but it sounds.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  We watch a lot of SVU.

• 17:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  And I mean, yes, it could, you know, technically, but then who's responsible?

• 17:26Matt Farah?

  Nobody's prosecuting these crimes.

• 17:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. Uh, okay. Anyway, um, but back to the patriarchy.

• 17:33Speaker 01

  I had no interactions in the Bentley. Um, but anytime Matt drove this car, people would like fling themselves in front of it to stop and tell us how cool the car was, how great. He looked in the car. He was though so right for the car.

• 17:47Matt Farah?

  Are you sure that?

• 17:48Speaker 01

  Every stoplight.

• 17:50Matt Farah?

  You sure you didn't like have a couple and like block them out? Were you looking for them? Are you look?

• 17:56Speaker 01

  Oh my god, this is gonna be the whole like, I don't see any signs of my dead brother and everyone tells me I don't look hard enough.

• 18:01Matt Farah?

  And what were you wearing?

• 18:03Speaker 01

  I was asking for it.

• 18:06Speaker 01

  No, but, but I thought it was very interesting. Um, it was a real man. Like I look like I stole my grandmother's car to do errands. And Matt looked like a gentleman who has fine taste.

• 18:18Matt Farah?

  It's true. You can see the Bentley intent on my face.

• 18:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:21Matt Farah?

  Whereas you can't, uh, yeah, yeah. Uh, but we did get some love together. Like you witnessed it when we were in Vegas and some other times.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Well, my favorite, I don't know if it happened in the Bentley, but my favorite time we ever get car interactions is when I'm driving and you're the passenger. And we get out and then someone starts talking to you about how do you like the way that car drives?

• 18:40Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  That's, that's also fabulous.

• 18:43Matt Farah?

  Guys, don't do that. Don't, if you were to ask someone how the car drives, it should be the person driving the car.

• 18:50Speaker 01

  I'm just saying.

• 18:51Matt Farah?

  Even if the passenger is me.

• 18:54Speaker 01

  I don't, but those weren't people who recognized you. Anyway.

• 18:56Matt Farah?

  Oh, really? Oh, you mean like strangers?

• 18:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:59Matt Farah?

  Oh, I've, oh yeah, that has happened to.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  Uh huh, outside John and Vinnie's it happened. Not that I remember every fucking specific time, but go on.

• 19:06Matt Farah?

  I have a list of this.

• 19:08Speaker 01

  Right. Yeah, someone else in the Patreon asked about lists. That's definitely one of them.

• 19:15Speaker 01

  Uh, but to answer their question proactively.

• 19:17Matt Farah?

  She has one written in pen and one written in lipstick.

• 19:20Speaker 01

  No, remember my favorite list book that I had was?

• 19:23Matt Farah?

  One is on a mirror.

• 19:25Speaker 01

  Was the one, that was my book of things to remember to be angry about. And I could write down small slights that I wanted to be sure to never forget.

• 19:32Matt Farah?

  How is that not a fucking notepad sold in a Chats store?

• 19:37Speaker 01

  I don't know, I go into a lot of stuff stores. I've never seen one.

• 19:40Matt Farah?

  Market, market fucking eight dude, let's go. We could fucking whip that thing up tonight. Before this gets to, before this airs tomorrow.

• 19:49Speaker 01

  I could get another Patreon account with all the winnings. Anyway, what else? Well, give me something else. What other question should we talk about?

• 19:55Matt Farah?

  Okay, so you're, so the Bentley.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  Bentley, loved it, stressful.

• 20:01Matt Farah?

  Here's the, here's the real question. It's now been gone for two months. Have you thought about it or missed it in that time?

• 20:08Speaker 01

  I've definitely thought about it, but I went, you know, I really was driving the Delica a lot in that time and really, I mean, I just love the Delica so much. It was nice to have one less car in rotation for the moment.

• 20:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. Once you realize you have too many cars and it starts to feel like work to drive them, you gotta minus one.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:29Matt Farah?

  Um, I'm, I'm, I think that, I think it was a really fun year.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  It was great.

• 20:33Matt Farah?

  And I enjoyed it while we had it and I'm glad we weren't, we didn't get kicked in the ass financially. That's very nice. Um, so the other thing is, um, I'm gonna, you know, the 1000 Sunday. Uh, you're gonna be around for that, obviously. Obviously.

• 20:50Speaker 01

  Depending on how well I do today.

• 20:51Matt Farah?

  Somebody has to serve the sandwiches. Know what I mean, boys?

• 20:54Speaker 01

  Somebody's gotta answer the door.

• 20:56Matt Farah?

  No. Hannah will be, Hannah will be doing eight hours of radio and actually, uh, we, we're not gonna let her leave. She's gonna just be here the whole time until she turns slowly insane. It's gonna be like a, it's gonna be like a CIA experiment.

• 21:10Speaker 01

  Great.

• 21:11Matt Farah?

  Um, and we're gonna put drugs in some.

• 21:13Speaker 01

  Okay, what were you saying? This still went on too long.

• 21:17Matt Farah?

  Uh, we got a lot of people coming through and I, I, we want, I wanted to like weave a consistent thread.

• 21:25Matt Farah?

  So I thought of like a quick five question survey for everybody.

• 21:29Speaker 01

  To answer on the spot or beforehand?

• 21:30Matt Farah?

  No, no, to answer on the spot.

• 21:32Speaker 01

  Cause you know, I write surveys for a living.

• 21:34Matt Farah?

  Yes, I know. That's why I'm asking you.

• 21:37Speaker 01

  Okay, well, let's talk about it.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  What's happening here?

• 21:41Matt Farah?

  That's what I'm asking. I want to talk to you about it.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  Like you want to ask me those questions?

• 21:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I'm gonna ask you those questions and then you can tell me if they're good questions.

• 21:50Speaker 01

  But you don't care about my answers to them?

• 21:52Matt Farah?

  No, I care. I know most of your answers, but I care about them, hearing about them again, even if I know them. And there's, you know, a hundred thousand or so people that would also like to hear some of your answers. I think that's the point of us having this conversation with microphones and not at dinner.

• 22:12Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, if Paul were here. But go on.

• 22:17Speaker 01

  Well, go on, are they?

• 22:19Matt Farah?

  If you make my soul die more than Jerry's, I've felt in ninety minutes, I think then you're a good spouse. Okay, question number one. You know, we did our first episode in 2012. What were you doing at the end of 2012 versus what are you doing today?

• 22:36Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 22:37Matt Farah?

  So that's question number one. Do you want to answer that question?

• 22:45Speaker 01

  I think that's a good question. But I mean...

• 22:49Matt Farah?

  It's a good question for a lot of our guests who are roughly our age and have similar sort of career tracks to us. So if they look back twelve or thirteen years ago, they were probably doing a much smaller version of what they're doing now.

• 23:04Speaker 01

  Well, that was what I was gonna say is like, have you done a quick test of that? For some people who are gonna be like, oh, I was a magician working in an aquarium, you know, during the day.

• 23:15Matt Farah?

  There might be some of that.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  But now, I am a famous car person.

• 23:18Matt Farah?

  I mean, there might be some of that. It's possible. A couple of the people that are coming are like on the younger side. So 2012 would be like a real long time ago. Like, Sam is coming. Remember him? British Sam?

• 23:30Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 23:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he's coming. Oh, he might be coming over for dinner tomorrow night. Forgot that. After, yeah, he's in town.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  Oh, totally fine. I think.

• 23:39Matt Farah?

  Huh? Oh, whatever. Might be. But, you know, he's young. So anyway, so that's a good one. Do you want to share your answer?

• 23:50Speaker 01

  I mean, I don't think my answer's that interesting. I was working at my, I was employed. I guess that's a big difference.

• 23:56Matt Farah?

  You're employed now.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  I was working at Mattel, doing toy stuff.

• 24:00Matt Farah?

  You're engaged to be employed is more intended.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  What's the next question?

• 24:06Matt Farah?

  What's the best car purchase that you've ever made?

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Good question.

• 24:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 24:14Speaker 01

  But you gotta really, I mean, I think you should have a timer, like one of those speed scrabble timers.

• 24:20Matt Farah?

  Oh, that's fun.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  And no one can take more than 30 seconds to answer these questions because this could be a real exhausting exercise. I'll happily fuck it, bang a gavel.

• 24:27Matt Farah?

  No, we have one of those in the garage we never use from the gym.

• 24:30Speaker 01

  From the box, our boxing days?

• 24:32Matt Farah?

  Was, yeah.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we could, we could make that work.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  I prefer a speed scrabble one, but whatever.

• 24:39Matt Farah?

  Do we have a speed scrabble one?

• 24:40Speaker 01

  No, I didn't, I never had one for myself, just at the tournaments, but it was really fun to slap that thing.

• 24:44Matt Farah?

  Is it different from a speed chess one?

• 24:46Speaker 01

  I don't think so.

• 24:48Matt Farah?

  Huh. Yeah, no, bang it, bang it, we can make that by Sunday.

• 24:54Matt Farah?

  We can make that happen by Sunday?

• 24:56Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Supply chain?

• 25:00Matt Farah?

  And then, you know, inverse, worst car purchase?

• 25:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:02Matt Farah?

  Right? Do you want to answer your best and your worst? Guys, support for the Smoking Tire comes from the podcast Drive with Jim Farley. You know Jim Farley, he's the CEO of Ford. Not only that, this guy has a GT40 and a Cobra and all kinds of amazing vintage American metal that he races wheel to wheel at places like Goodwood. He's a boss and you gotta check out this show. It's where Jim talks to some of his favorite people about what they drive and what drives them to succeed. They just started season three with some sick new guests, including Vicky Butler Henderson, the British racing driver and fifth gear personality, Randy Nonnenberg from Bring a Trailer, and T-Pain, the musician turned drifter. Guy's got skills, actually.

• 25:47Matt Farah?

  I listened, I listened to it the other day. It is great. Jim is a great interviewer, he's insightful, and it's interesting hearing these folks open up to him. I really am about it. I support Jim's venture here. To listen to Drive with Jim Farley, just search Drive with Jim Farley in any podcast app. That's Drive with Jim Farley, and thank you for supporting this episode.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  I mean, my best was...

• 26:12Matt Farah?

  You can include ones that might have been gifts?

• 26:14Speaker 01

  The Jeep.

• 26:15Matt Farah?

  The Jeep.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:17Matt Farah?

  And which type of?

• 26:18Speaker 01

  Also, my worst, though. That's gonna be a, it's a trick question.

• 26:21Matt Farah?

  Was it CJ?

• 26:22Speaker 01

  No, my dad had a CJ7. Mine was the Grand Wagoneer.

• 26:25Matt Farah?

  Oh, the Wagoneer, right, yeah.

• 26:26Speaker 01

  Um...

• 26:27Matt Farah?

  Was it grand or just Wagoneer?

• 26:29Speaker 01

  Uh, my parents had a grand Wagoneer. I just had a Wagoneer.

• 26:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no wood paneling.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 26:34Speaker 01

  No, mine had... Getting so many of them coming up.

• 26:38Matt Farah?

  I thought I saw the photo and it was just red.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  No, that was my dad's. My parents had two.

• 26:43Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  My mom's was green with wood paneling. My dad's was red. Mine did have wood paneling. Um, but anyway, that car also only got 12 miles to a gallon. And I was in college.

• 26:53Matt Farah?

  On a fucking good day.

• 26:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:54Matt Farah?

  Musto has one today and gets like six.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  I know. But hubba, hubba. Okay, next question.

• 27:00Matt Farah?

  Okay. Best and worst Wagoneer. Yeah, yeah. Uh, uh, best road trip you've taken?

• 27:08Speaker 01

  I don't think you should ask that question.

• 27:10Matt Farah?

  No? Why?

• 27:11Speaker 01

  I think it, it allows for a lot of meandering and I understand you've got a lot of time to fill on this.

• 27:19Matt Farah?

  Not if we have a speed clock.

• 27:20Speaker 01

  That is very true. Yeah, actually, I guess, true.

• 27:23Matt Farah?

  I like it as a lightning round. I mean, I like, I like a, I like a 30 seconds for each answer. 30 seconds in radio is a lot.

• 27:30Speaker 01

  Actually, what if it's, how many of these questions can you answer in 30 seconds and we expand the list by quite a bit? Anyway, we can talk about that later.

• 27:37Matt Farah?

  Oh, and do like one.

• 27:38Speaker 01

  We'll talk about that while we're in bed tonight.

• 27:40Matt Farah?

  Answers, though.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then you get through it like, what's your food allergy? And they're like, really give them some zingers. Anyway. It'll be our pillow talk tonight.

• 27:49Matt Farah?

  Uh, all right, number, number five, uh, you have 10 million, uh, but you have to spend it on cars and you have to spend it today.

• 27:56Speaker 01

  It's too much money. People are gonna have multiple cars. It'll be a thing.

• 28:01Matt Farah?

  All right, well, I guess we'll have to make it better then.

• 28:03Speaker 01

  I think you should test this with someone more relevant, though.

• 28:06Matt Farah?

  I, well, maybe I should.

• 28:07Speaker 01

  You're talking to someone who gets bored at these answers?

• 28:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah. The, uh, part of the audience, a small part, probably all the patrons are like, they're like, you're gonna put a timer on the answers of the Brian Scotto's best car purchase ever? Just losing their minds. Like, we're doing, you have to understand. I'm sorry, you have audio, I mean, you have to stand. But you do. Eight hours.

• 28:31Speaker 01

  I know, that's what I said, you have a lot of time to film.

• 28:34Matt Farah?

  Oh, sorry, this is gonna be the move. It's gonna be this.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  Right, true. Okay, fine, maybe it's a minimum time. And everyone has to take five minutes to answer each question.

• 28:44Matt Farah?

  It's an egg timer. You must talk.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  And then we get like a little like Electric Proter or something if they stop talking.

• 28:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 28:53Matt Farah?

  You still think the same way about the questions.

• 28:55Speaker 01

  I, I think we should move on from this discussion.

• 28:57Matt Farah?

  Alright, cool.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Alright, I think I'm gonna ask you some questions now.

• 29:01Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 29:02Matt Farah?

  Let's go.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  Matt Farrup. When you bring a new car home, or when we're in any car. You okay?

• 29:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  Or when you...

• 29:11Matt Farah?

  No, the shot of you was like, looking too much at my computer screen. I didn't like that.

• 29:16Speaker 01

  Um...

• 29:16Matt Farah?

  Go on, I'm sorry.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  Okay, when you bring a new car home, um, or when we're in any car, what do I look at first? What do I assess first in a car?

• 29:27Matt Farah?

  I mean, the thing that usually annoys you first is if the controls for the radio are not logical.

• 29:35Speaker 01

  A hundred percent, yes.

• 29:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. Is that a test of, do, do I know you? Or are you good at talking about cars?

• 29:41Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no.

• 29:42Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 29:42Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna pretend I can come here and talk about cars. This is fully, do you know me and are we gonna fight? Um, okay. Next question.

• 29:53Matt Farah?

  I was there for you, by the way. I remember that.

• 29:56Speaker 01

  Um, of all... Of all the cars that you've owned, which one did I like the least? In our time together?

• 30:06Matt Farah?

  Oh, the Mustang. Cause it leaked fuel on your clothes?

• 30:09Speaker 01

  No, no, that was that one specific day, and then I had the baby bear sighting with that cut on my leg. But I was too mad at you to tell you.

• 30:15Matt Farah?

  That's a fair guess, right?

• 30:16Speaker 01

  No, but I liked that car. It was a fair guess, yes. I, it did soak my clothing that I had to wear into the forest.

• 30:22Matt Farah?

  Uh, you thought the M3 was the stupidest?

• 30:27Speaker 01

  Which one is the M3?

• 30:28Matt Farah?

  The silver one. No, I guess it's not that, since you

• 30:32Speaker 01

  Is that the one with the white seats?

• 30:35Matt Farah?

  No, we've never owned a car with white seats.

• 30:37Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, you did, and I fucking liked it the least.

• 30:40Matt Farah?

  Owned a car with white seats?

• 30:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, the most precious car in the world that we couldn't even drive, and I couldn't wear the same pants in it because it might-

• 30:46Matt Farah?

  You're talking about the M3, and the seats are fucking red.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  No.

• 30:49Matt Farah?

  The seats were red.

• 30:50Speaker 01

  No.

• 30:51Matt Farah?

  What car are you talking about?

• 30:53Speaker 01

  I don't know, maybe I'm making this up.

• 30:55Matt Farah?

  I'm call- call, call, what car are you- What car are you fucking talking about?

• 31:00Speaker 01

  I'm talking about the BMW with the white seats.

• 31:03Matt Farah?

  They were red.

• 31:04Speaker 01

  Pull it up.

• 31:07Matt Farah?

  They were fucking red, I'm not pulling it up, they were red, you have to trust me on this-

• 31:12Speaker 01

  Why were you so crazy about it, then?

• 31:13Matt Farah?

  Because they were perfect, and, and it wasn't about di- uh, uh, dye transfer, like, happens in all the white seats. That wasn't what I was worried about.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  Maybe it's because the car you have now has white seats, I'm thinking that.

• 31:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, the Maybach has white seats, and it has like 3,000 miles on it, and they're dye transferred.

• 31:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:31Matt Farah?

  That's not what I was worried about. On that particular BMW, the mileage was so low that the leather, when BMWs are brand new-

• 31:40Speaker 01

  I'm so bored of this, go on.

• 31:42Matt Farah?

  Give me 10 seconds, and I'll be done. The leather has a crinkle finish on it that wears off very quickly.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  What is a crinkle finish?

• 31:50Matt Farah?

  It's like a texture to the leather, that makes it feel like leather, versus like shiny, worn-in leather. You know how like steering wheels get shiny over time?

• 31:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:59Matt Farah?

  The seats and all the other leather, that happens to that also in these BMWs. This one was so mint, I didn't wanna literally cause friction on it to wear the wrinkles out, because there was so much value-

• 32:12Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 32:12Matt Farah?

  -in them being there, but it wasn't white.

• 32:14Speaker 01

  Okay, it wasn't white, you might be right on that.

• 32:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah. So, I'm just saying, as a, as a "how well do I know you" question, I would say, uh, this one requires further research at the, at Pillow Talk later.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  That'll be morning Pillow Talk, alright, fine, um, okay, if you were a Bill-

• 32:37Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 32:38Speaker 01

  If you were a billionaire.

• 32:40Matt Farah?

  Uh huh. You'd never see either of us again. We'd be fucking out of here. Go on.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  Out of here like together or you would dump me in the ocean?

• 32:49Matt Farah?

  No, you, the audience, would never see Matt or Hannah. We'd be gone.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  Okay, got it.

• 32:54Matt Farah?

  We wouldn't need to talk anymore.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Okay, fine. Before we disappeared.

• 32:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  Um, if you were a billionaire, what would you do to help other drivers?

• 33:04Matt Farah?

  Oh, well, that's a nice, that's a nice thought.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  I mean, I already, I already know the answer, so I'm just curious if you know the answer. My, all my questions have answers.

• 33:14Matt Farah?

  What would I do to help other drivers?

• 33:16Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 33:17Matt Farah?

  If I was a billionaire?

• 33:18Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 33:19Matt Farah?

  Um.

• 33:22Matt Farah?

  Oh, and there's supposed to be a right answer to this?

• 33:25Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, you have very specifically said this sentence before. Not once, multiple times.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  A public service you would do for other drivers?

• 33:35Matt Farah?

  A pub, um.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  Know thyself, Matt Farah.

• 33:43Matt Farah?

  Uh.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  Alright, I'll give you a hint.

• 33:46Matt Farah?

  I'm stumped.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  No, I'll give you a hint, because you can't have this dead time on the radio.

• 33:50Matt Farah?

  I thank you. Do you want to be my producer? Yes, go.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  Um, okay, you would invest in billboards?

• 34:00Matt Farah?

  Oh, like, oh, left lanes, like move out of, move, keep right?

• 34:03Speaker 01

  No.

• 34:05Speaker 01

  Jesus, the weasels.

• 34:06Matt Farah?

  Oh, boy. What is the correct answer?

• 34:08Speaker 01

  You would put up billboards warning people of dairy farms ahead. So that they could roll up their windows and start air recirculation in the car.

• 34:17Matt Farah?

  I would, I would do that. You know, I would do that, and I haven't thought about it in so long. Because now I avoid the five freeway entirely. Such a problem. I don't even go there anymore. But, uh, that is a thing I would do.

• 34:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:31Matt Farah?

  Uh, I haven't thought about it in a very long time, but you are right, and that's smart. And when I run for president or governor of Cal-

• 34:37Speaker 01

  You're right, I am, yes.

• 34:38Matt Farah?

  Governor of California, I think if you build a dairy farm upwind of a highway, uh, you should be required, I shouldn't have to do it. You should have to put a billboard up being like, hey-o, fucking hit that recirc because in one mile, it's about to get dirty.

• 34:57Matt Farah?

  But you're right, you're right. I did not know thyself myself in that particular instance. Yeah, but you thought the BMW's interior is white, so it's, we'll call it even for now. Is there more?

• 35:08Speaker 01

  Sure. There is, but let's go to, no, no, let's go to everyone else's questions. We'll come back.

• 35:13Matt Farah?

  No, no, I want to hear one more of yours.

• 35:15Speaker 01

  Okay. What color?

• 35:17Matt Farah?

  Oh, Jesus, this isn't fair. You're going colors?

• 35:21Speaker 01

  Oh, if you play the colorblind card, I'm gonna be so annoyed.

• 35:24Matt Farah?

  You did this with Jillian, didn't you?

• 35:26Speaker 01

  No, I did this literally when I was watching that one termite on the floor. I was laying on the floor today.

• 35:33Matt Farah?

  Alright.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  Um, what color was the car you drove on our early date when we went into the canyons?

• 35:41Matt Farah?

  Nardo gray.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 35:43Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool. So can we stay married then?

• 35:46Speaker 01

  For the moment.

• 35:46Matt Farah?

  Alright, cool.

• 35:47Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 35:48Matt Farah?

  So you want to, you want to see what, a lot of people have a lot of things to say. I think every patron put a question up.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  Great, well, let's ask one.

• 35:55Matt Farah?

  There's many. We'll go, uh, huh huh. If you got in, I'm gonna go reverse order, because if you got in, there's too many to do. I mean, we'd be here all night, but I'm gonna just start at the beginning. Of course, if you want to ask questions of us about our marriage or anybody else, uh, anything else, uh, patreon.com slash the smoke and tire podcast is how you do it. Get the show, uh, early, get the show live. I'm sorry it's not live today. Uh, we owe you a live program, but I simply cannot operate the board and everything and be primary host while managing a live stream. It is just a little too much for me. Um, Zach is doing a gig and he'll be back.

• 36:37Matt Farah?

  Um, get it live, get it ad free, support your favorite, uh, creators, get things coming up, dude, couple of weeks. Uh, maybe even less, uh, orders are gonna open for the green notice canyon and you want one. There are only two colors left, that one and one more special one. So Patreon.com slash the smoke and tire podcast.

• 37:01Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 37:01Matt Farah?

  Was that, was that, I wasn't like Alex Jonesy with the fervor.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  No.

• 37:05Matt Farah?

  I'm not talking about the world ending and therefore buy my vitamins.

• 37:09Speaker 01

  Right, yeah, yeah. The only way to make it through.

• 37:11Matt Farah?

  We'll be doing that soon enough, so don't worry.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  That's, that's for 1001.

• 37:15Matt Farah?

  All right. Gila Monster Greg says, uh, what's Hannah's favorite press car that I've brought home?

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Oh, interesting.

• 37:24Matt Farah?

  Hannah does get to have goes in most of the press cars.

• 37:28Speaker 01

  Um, what was, uh, the, uh, the Volvo was one of the more notable ones that I was so surprised that I liked, the Polestar.

• 37:36Matt Farah?

  The one we drove to Arizona or the, um, the one that had the air suspension and the wool interior, the red one?

• 37:42Speaker 01

  I think it was the air suspension one.

• 37:44Matt Farah?

  I love that car.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:45Matt Farah?

  God, that's a great car.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  That's the car, the cars I like the most.

• 37:48Matt Farah?

  Recharge with the full kit and the wool interior, yeah.

• 37:52Speaker 01

  Um, the cars I like the most are the ones that like, it would never occur to me to get into. You know, like if I saw it on the street, it's like not my style, it's not my anything. Um, you know, and then I really love when you bring home press cars that are then, you know, on the other end of the spectrum, like super, you know, it's like a super car, but then it's super loud and super roomy and like real ridiculous. Like I do really love that.

• 38:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 38:18Speaker 01

  Because, because I know when you're coming home.

• 38:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah. With the Revuelto, I got to sneak away.

• 38:24Speaker 01

  I know.

• 38:25Matt Farah?

  Sneak out in electric mode.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:26Matt Farah?

  And then start, uh, the engine in front of another person's house rather than ours. You know, whose house I did in front of too.

• 38:34Speaker 01

  I sure do.

• 38:35Matt Farah?

  Um, okay, yeah, cool. Um, June Hound, uh, what sports cars over the years have struck you as especially well suited for fat guys? Um, 911s are pretty good, front engine Corvettes are pretty good. Um, you know, GT cars rather than sports cars like Challengers and Bentley GTs and Mercedes SLs and stuff like that. What's that, what else is good for bigger folks? I mean, boxers, considering how small of a car they are, honestly.

• 39:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah, uh, front-engined Ferraris are pretty good. Uh, "Nice cams," says Hannah, "how did you come to terms with the fact that I spend a lot of money on cars and watches? My wife simply can't understand why I do this," hoping to hear another perspective.

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Uh, I didn't have to, I mean, it wasn't coming to terms with it. I, you know, that was just part of the whole package. I accepted this right off the bat.

• 39:35Matt Farah?

  I was doing it when you met me!

• 39:39Speaker 01

  Right, I, I, yeah. I'm not gonna change you. I'm gonna accept you how you are.

• 39:43Matt Farah?

  Thanks, honey. So nice.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  But Matt and I do have a lot of discussions around, you know, the extreme, uh, price difference in our hobbies. You know, such as Matt's watches and cars. I have, you know, nineteen-dollar toys from eBay that I talked down from twenty-one dollars. Um, and then I still feel guilty about it and I have to ask Matt, like, "Is this okay?"

• 40:09Matt Farah?

  Everybody wor- I mean, you know, if you, if you buy a five-thousand-dollar watch and sell it later for five thousand and one, versus you spend twenty-eight dollars on something that-

• 40:20Speaker 01

  What are you getting at?

• 40:21Matt Farah?

  No, I'm just saying.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  No, I-

• 40:22Matt Farah?

  You know, I'm just saying. It's both sides of the math. I have, I like you buying toys. I like you. I don't, I have never, ever tried to tell you to not buy something-

• 40:32Speaker 01

  No, no, no, that's not where we're going at all.

• 40:34Matt Farah?

  No, that's not true. I have told you to not buy things, but like, you, you had, you gotta go with me on most of them.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  No, like that, yeah, that Russian-

• 40:41Matt Farah?

  I've talked to you out of some, like, shit that looked like you, like, it's like the first couple fucking scenes of a horror movie, where you're like, "I found this on Facebook Marketplace. It says, like, uh, 'found in a Russian crypt.'" Like, what do you think?

• 40:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, those, I asked if the brown spots are mold. They said no.

• 40:57Matt Farah?

  Fucking take over our house, live in our water heater or something.

• 41:00Speaker 01

  No, sometimes I only ask you because I need someone to say no, pretty much.

• 41:04Matt Farah?

  Hannah, the, the good toys Hannah buys are amazing.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  Um, no, no, I, I'm not saying that you're ever giving me any shit. You were just happened to be implying that my toys were trash and your toys were worth things.

• 41:16Matt Farah?

  Hannah's toys are not trash. Um- Here's my, my advice on this topic is you should buy your wife cars and watches. I find that that is a pretty good peace offering. One for me, one for you, one for me, one for you. That, that keeps it nice. No, doesn't it?

• 41:39Speaker 01

  I mean, it, it does, but like, buying your wife, that's how my dad gives gifts is like he gives you something he wanted and so then you're not interested in it, he takes it. So, like that's-

• 41:53Matt Farah?

  But that's not what I do. I don't buy you a car that I wanted.

• 41:56Speaker 01

  No, um, but to date you've bought me one car.

• 42:00Matt Farah?

  The Pow?

• 42:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  Um, but I'm just saying the one for me, one for you. That's also forcing your hobby on someone else. That's not very nice. Um, and I do now own multiple watches and I find it very hard to swap out watches. To remember to do it, to think about it. It's, it's a shockingly hard thing.

• 42:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I fucked up by starting with a Rolex. When you start with Rolex, everything else seems kind of cumbersome and annoying and you have to think of reasons to wear it. I know. It's, it's true. That's why people buy those. It's why people collect them. They're so easy to wear. Um, but uh, yeah, Justin Gerard says, the real, ju- sorry. Justin Gerard, the real one. Justin deserves to have his full username.

• 42:47Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 42:48Matt Farah?

  For his patronage. Um, no, this is cute. During my career, what, let's not do questions about me. Okay. Uh, okay, that's, I'm sorry, Justin. You have a great question, but, but I heard the woman. Duran Somerville says, um, my wife is forced to live with me, a car guy who talks about cars all the time and it's not my work. Do you talk about cars at home or is it something that I mostly leave at work?

• 43:21Speaker 01

  I mean, well, that's an interesting one. I'll answer it in a terrible way of saying, well, how do I say this? I think a lot of our friends are from the car community. And so it is inevitable that cars will come up. But, you know, Matt either tries really hard to kind of time box those discussions or looks the other way when I just pick up a crossword puzzle and start doing it at the table and not listening to what they're saying. But the way I kind of judge people, this is again now unrelated, but one of the ways I judge people is like, there's people who, in our lives, that, you know, we're talking to them and they're talking about cars and they're only going to talk to Matt about cars

• 44:04Speaker 01

  because it's Matt and it's cars and it's cars and it's Matt and they have his attention. And then there are the people who also like kind of make an effort of some sort to include me or talk about non-car things. And those are the people who really stand out to me.

• 44:15Matt Farah?

  Ryan West, two questions. Oh, oh, no. Wait, did I? Okay. No, no, it's okay. I thought I clicked in the wrong. What is happening here? Ryan West says, "I'm going to use this space on behalf of my wife. Wife has a master's degree in industrial psychology but is struggling to move up and through organizations, progressing her career, etc." Okay. Oh, the question is, is there advice? Sorry, it's a lot of words. It's hard to do in real time. Is there any advice on how to track down and out a mentorship outside of her work?

• 45:00Matt Farah?

  They offer one, but obviously there is some conflict.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, for mentorships, I mean, I'm happy to help with this offline as well. But there's so many like women's organizations that are really built around, you know, getting mentors and finding people to connect with. Like, I'm part of one that's Women in Research and I have found a lot of new mentees through that program, which has been great. But it definitely is a lot of work and a lot of trial and error, for sure.

• 45:33Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 45:35Speaker 01

  This is now weird, because all you're doing is reading.

• 45:37Matt Farah?

  I'm trying to find ones that are more about you, but a lot of these are about me. You're not talking to the air, you're talking to the audience.

• 45:44Speaker 01

  I am happy to talk about you.

• 45:47Matt Farah?

  I am listening, I'm just like, uh, okay. Fine, here, you wanna, here's an open door for you. Dan W., what is my worst habit that I won't admit to?

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 46:06Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, I could just go right for the fingernails in the sink from yesterday.

• 46:10Matt Farah?

  From the other day? I was waiting for the sink to dry, yeah. Cold as ice, but true.

• 46:15Matt Farah?

  I admitted to that.

• 46:17Speaker 01

  No, I think you admit to all of them. I mean, mainly because I usually corner you and like, demand that you acknowledge that this is a thing that just happened. Such as, your love of opening cans of La Croix and leaving them all over the house.

• 46:30Matt Farah?

  Oh, that is a bad habit. Yeah, my wounded soldiers of La Croix.

• 46:34Speaker 01

  But luckily, I like warm, slightly flat La Croix.

• 46:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, that's why we make a good couple. But I, that is, you're right, that is a bad habit. And I don't cop to it as often as I should.

• 46:47Matt Farah?

  Aiden Squires, your honest opinion on my Pearl Jam tattoo?

• 46:54Speaker 01

  I think, um, a younger version of me would have been a lot more judgmental of that tattoo. A younger version of me would have, like, stared at it on our first date and been like, so are you in Pearl Jam? Like...

• 47:08Matt Farah?

  If you're in Pearl Jam and have that tattoo, that's really lame.

• 47:11Speaker 01

  Ah, I mean, I don't know, maybe, what if you were like...

• 47:16Matt Farah?

  Unless it's like, like, from the guy from Sublime, where it's the cover of the album, oh shit, you know what I mean? Like, then it's fine. Where you did it clearly first, and anyone else who does that, they saw it because you did it.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  Yes, I see what you're saying, but I would have really struggled with it. But also, I didn't recognize it as a Pearl Jam Stick Man at first.

• 47:45Speaker 01

  And so I also would have been like, what's this fuzzy line drawing on your arm?

• 47:49Matt Farah?

  I mean, that's the key, the key to a band tattoo, if you're gonna get one, and I think I recognized this when I got it. It can't be like the name of the band. It has to be something

• 48:00Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 48:00Matt Farah?

  that isn't immediately for the rest of your life, like Metallica.

• 48:05Speaker 01

  You should have gotten Pearl Jam written in Chinese letters.

• 48:08Matt Farah?

  If fucking Mike, if I had a Sharpie, there'd be a Mike McCready signature on that bitch.

• 48:12Speaker 01

  Yes, of course.

• 48:13Matt Farah?

  We would have been up till four in the morning getting that thing.

• 48:15Speaker 01

  I know, that was quite the adventure. But my favorite Pearl Jam

• 48:18Matt Farah?

  Get at me, Mike.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  My favorite Pearl Jam tattoo story, I mean, my only Pearl Jam tattoo story is we were walking on the beach one day, and you were in your regular beach tank top and had your forearm exposed. And some other guy was walking, and he also had a Pearl Jam tattoo, and you said, "Nice Stick Man." And I didn't know that the guy was called Stick Man, and I thought you were saying, "Nice Stick, comma, Man." And like, that stick was slang for tattoo. And I was like, what is this slang? What are the young kids saying these days that I don't know?

• 48:52Matt Farah?

  It's just generational difference. Weird.

• 48:55Speaker 01

  It was very hard, but now I know.

• 48:58Matt Farah?

  Okay. Uh, Brian can only afford budget watches. Would like you to elaborate on what you love so much about the Delica.

• 49:08Speaker 01

  I love the smell in the Delica. Like, it's just got like, an old but happy smell. I love when you turn it on.

• 49:16Matt Farah?

  What you're describing is a 1990's Japanese car. That is what that smell is.

• 49:21Speaker 01

  I mean, yeah, that sounds about right. I just, I love, I love the Delica because people, you know, people first do the double take because you're on the right side driving, but then people always smile at it. And that makes me really happy. But I also love that it, you know, says a lot of random words on it, like "exceed" and "Star Wagon," like

• 49:42Matt Farah?

  It does say random words on it, yeah.

• 49:44Speaker 01

  And I love that those chairs, you know, swivel around.

• 49:48Matt Farah?

  Hallmarks of early 1990's Japanese utility vehicles.

• 49:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I love, you know, during the pandemic, we ate meals in there.

• 49:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's good.

• 49:58Speaker 01

  Um, there's so many things to love.

• 50:01Matt Farah?

  It is extremely lovable.

• 50:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:03Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah. Uh, Tim McLaren, uh, what's something that you're enthusiastic or passionate about that you've gotten me into?

• 50:13Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 50:14Matt Farah?

  Legree was one, reluctantly, but still.

• 50:19Speaker 01

  I love that you think I'm enthusiastic about it.

• 50:22Matt Farah?

  I mean, at least you were at a time, if not now.

• 50:24Speaker 01

  No, no, it's a thing, yes, it is a thing I did, and then you got into, um.

• 50:31Speaker 01

  It's a really interesting question. I mean, well, one of the defining aspects of my personality is that I have no hobbies and/or passions.

• 50:39Matt Farah?

  Which isn't, which isn't true.

• 50:40Speaker 01

  And so, this question actually just might be a self-esteem killer, because now I have nothing and I've offered you nothing. No, we do nothing.

• 50:47Matt Farah?

  That's not true at all. There's puzzles.

• 50:49Speaker 01

  That you refuse to do. Go on.

• 50:51Matt Farah?

  I pop in.

• 50:52Speaker 01

  Word games that you refuse to do.

• 50:54Matt Farah?

  I pop into crossword. I can do crossword. She's like so good at puzzles, she'll blast through them. Oh, not puzzle, not puzzle, jigsaw puzzles. I do refuse to do those. As a colorblind person, it's just too goddamn frustrating. I cannot do it.

• 51:07Speaker 01

  You don't do any of my other ones either, which is all fine. I don't need you to be wildly involved, but there isn't any kind of like one thing that Matt has like come over to my side on. Sorry, bad answer.

• 51:20Matt Farah?

  I mean, we have to look, you have to look pretty far back to like 2015, but you got me into like working out with a trainer.

• 51:27Speaker 01

  Oh, that is true. Um.

• 51:29Matt Farah?

  Which I think made a lot of difference.

• 51:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, when we first started dating and you had that like stairmaster in your bedroom, that I would just hang my clothes on.

• 51:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  Um, and I could not figure out why it was in there. And then, but then you started using it, and it made a lot of sense. But then it was like that weird sweat ring around it on the carpet. Anyway.

• 51:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah, well, no, that wasn't the right place in the house for it.

• 51:54Speaker 01

  It was great.

• 51:55Matt Farah?

  And we got rid of that carpet.

• 51:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:56Matt Farah?

  Also. That was money well spent.

• 51:59Speaker 01

  That was.

• 52:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 52:00Matt Farah?

  Hardwood floors are good.

• 52:04Matt Farah?

  Let's see.

• 52:07Matt Farah?

  Oh, oh, okay, professional opinion. iPhone 13 mini forever. Repper fucking Zen. There we go. Professional opinion on the differences, if any, between design researchers, UX researchers, and human factors engineers.

• 52:23Speaker 01

  Oh, fascinating question. I'm sure there are people who will say there's a ton of differences. Human factors engineers may be a little bit different, especially if they have any part of the actual, like, engineering. So I'm just gonna move them off to the side. But I always say, you know, like, throughout my career, I've done UX research, consumer insights, market research.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  You know, like, you name it. I've been called that, but it's all really the same thing, which is how do we put the user, you know, at the core of our product? So to me, there's not a ton of difference. And I think when you try and split out things, like, this team only talks to consumers about marketing, and this team only talks to them about, you know, how the product works, like, you're all now just pretending that you're not all talking to the same person. And that's kinda silly.

• 53:14Matt Farah?

  Good question. Says, that's the next person's username.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  Oh, I like that.

• 53:20Matt Farah?

  It forces you to say that immediately after the previous one, even though if the previous one was not good.

• 53:26Speaker 01

  Right, like, when your band name is Free Beer or something.

• 53:32Matt Farah?

  Hannah, what are the three things you love most about hot dogs?

• 53:38Matt Farah?

  We have, for, some people have absolutely no idea why that question would be asked. Hannah has designated a bathroom in our house as a hot dog bathroom, which features a very large collection of hot dog-themed things.

• 53:55Speaker 01

  But more importantly about this bathroom is that I want you to know that Matt now refuses to go into this bathroom to do his business.

• 54:01Matt Farah?

  Because there's so many hot dogs, I can't fit.

• 54:03Speaker 01

  Well, you do have to shimmy in between that one hot dog and the toilet, which is a bit of an issue now, but I find it nice to have something to rest my knees against.

• 54:12Matt Farah?

  The Instagram clip is, well, you, yes, you now have to shimmy between the hot dog and the toilet.

• 54:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, but really, I love, I mean, I just, I love the iconography of a hot dog.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  And I love that it's become this weird, universal symbol for things. Not symbol, but like baseline.

• 54:33Speaker 01

  For various, like, I like the anthropomorphization of the hot dog, I guess I should say.

• 54:38Matt Farah?

  Right, it's like iconography and it's like cartoon hot dogs, more like. I, I, I think I've seen you eat three or four hot dogs, proper hot dogs, anyway.

• 54:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:51Matt Farah?

  Pigs in the blanket, that's a different story.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  That's completely different.

• 54:53Matt Farah?

  Completely different food.

• 54:54Speaker 01

  However, pigs in the blanket themed things can go in the hot dog bathroom. Corn dogs cannot, let me be very clear to the listeners of the radio.

• 55:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 55:02Speaker 01

  They have no place there. But I also, I do, I like a hot dog, probably one a year at a sporting event.

• 55:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, but like, the, the, the, the volume of hot dog shit in our home.

• 55:17Matt Farah?

  Compared to the volume of hot dogs that we consume.

• 55:20Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 55:20Matt Farah?

  Even, let's just say, as a family, is drastically out of proportion.

• 55:25Speaker 01

  Certainly.

• 55:26Matt Farah?

  You'd think that we'd be like, we're getting hot dogs for dinner.

• 55:31Speaker 01

  Like a conspiratorial, like, what do you want tonight, hot dogs? But I will say, though, one of my original visions for the guest bathroom is that that was gonna be skiing themed. And I didn't ski, I mean, now I ski, clearly.

• 55:43Matt Farah?

  Is it because you wanted people to do coke in there at parties?

• 55:45Speaker 01

  I wanted to put a lot of fake cocaine, but also real cocaine. Like, I have the ketchup and mustard dispenser in the hot dog bathroom, and one has soap and one has ketchup.

• 55:56Matt Farah?

  For what purpose did you want to put real cocaine in the bathroom?

• 55:59Speaker 01

  I mean, I like for Scavenger Hunter, like, the gamification.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  Because, I mean, just think about it, if someone, you know, you only get one shot, and if they come out just smelling like a baby diaper, we know.

• 56:14Matt Farah?

  The person that you want to find that is not the person that will.

• 56:22Matt Farah?

  These are dangerous games.

• 56:24Speaker 01

  You actually bring up a great point. We have a lot, yeah.

• 56:27Matt Farah?

  But like, you just made it also sound like, it was like skiing themed, and I was like, oh skiing themed, so people could do coke in there, which really is not a thing that happens in our house.

• 56:38Speaker 01

  No.

• 56:38Matt Farah?

  But like.

• 56:39Speaker 01

  Which is why it's even better. Same like the hot dogs.

• 56:41Matt Farah?

  But are you also talking about Alpine skiing?

• 56:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, no.

• 56:43Matt Farah?

  Or are you talking about a cocaine themed bathroom?

• 56:45Speaker 01

  No, it was not a cocaine themed bathroom, even though I almost bought that cocaine neon sign off of Facebook Marketplace. Early on in this house ownership, but anyway. No, no, it was gonna be Alpine skiing. I really like the idea of like little skiers on things hang down, or like vintage skiing posters.

• 57:02Matt Farah?

  Chalet style room, yeah.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  I also just like a themed bathroom, so.

• 57:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, look, why not poop with whimsy?

• 57:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, just today, Jillian commented that she really enjoyed going to the bathroom in the hot dog bathroom, because there was things to look at.

• 57:15Matt Farah?

  But like, hot, yeah, hot dogs and skiing and a lot of other things, it's pretty easy to find stuff. Demolition man, much, much harder. Much harder.

• 57:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 57:29Matt Farah?

  God, this fucking inverse, I'm gonna fire Zach.

• 57:35Matt Farah?

  For crimes against scrolling.

• 57:42Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 57:45Matt Farah?

  Wait, sorry.

• 57:46Speaker 01

  You're taking too long, I'm gonna ask you a question.

• 57:47Matt Farah?

  All right, let's go.

• 57:49Speaker 01

  Early on in our relationship, how did you describe my driving?

• 57:52Matt Farah?

  Perfectly adequate. Next.

• 57:54Speaker 01

  Who gave us a butter dish for our wedding?

• 57:56Matt Farah?

  Marco.

• 57:57Speaker 01

  Good one.

• 57:58Matt Farah?

  Lightning round. Shout out to him.

• 58:01Speaker 01

  What are some cars I dream about owning?

• 58:04Matt Farah?

  Oh, well, you want like an old, small, Japanese truck, like an old Nissan square body truck.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  Yes. But I don't think I could have that at the same time as the Delica. Yeah, the Datsun, for sure.

• 58:17Matt Farah?

  510, I think you've talked about Fiat Jollies.

• 58:20Speaker 01

  Absolutely not.

• 58:21Matt Farah?

  No?

• 58:22Speaker 01

  Nope, too novelty. Too adorable.

• 58:23Matt Farah?

  Fiat Jolly, okay.

• 58:28Speaker 01

  We just saw one the other day, that you wouldn't let me go across the street and offer.

• 58:32Matt Farah?

  Certainly the Vista Cruiser. The wagon. Vista Cruiser wagon.

• 58:36Speaker 01

  I wasn't even thinking of the Vista Cruiser.

• 58:37Matt Farah?

  You saw one the other day?

• 58:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, like two days ago.

• 58:39Matt Farah?

  The Stadia?

• 58:40Speaker 01

  No.

• 58:43Speaker 01

  Not at the car show, the day before.

• 58:45Matt Farah?

  Ooh, I don't know.

• 58:50Matt Farah?

  I, I, okay.

• 58:52Speaker 01

  But we were like on Avenue Kitty and we had a whole conversation about it.

• 58:55Matt Farah?

  Oh, a Lecar, the Renault, Renault Lecar, yeah. No, I tried to block that out, that's, that's. Listen, you know, you know the Meatloaf song? You know, like, "You can have any car you want, but not fucking that."

• 59:12Speaker 01

  I didn't really realize there was something that was just fully off limits.

• 59:15Matt Farah?

  Oh yeah, a Renault Lecar is a hard ass no.

• 59:18Speaker 01

  Why?

• 59:19Matt Farah?

  It's awful.

• 59:21Speaker 01

  But next, I need a better reason.

• 59:23Matt Farah?

  Now, there's a, there's a variant.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  What if we got a Lecar decal for any of our other cars? Maybe that would be enough.

• 59:28Matt Farah?

  What about, what about this?

• 59:31Speaker 01

  I can't see that far.

• 59:32Matt Farah?

  Hang on.

• 59:34Speaker 01

  Type, type, type, tapping, tap, tap.

• 59:37Matt Farah?

  This is what, this is what you want, hang on. This is what you want. What if we did this?

• 59:42Speaker 01

  It looks square.

• 59:44Matt Farah?

  This is.

• 59:44Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 59:45Matt Farah?

  Do you know what this is? This is a Renault R5 Turbo.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is a turbo, a few, we see them every so often, I really like them.

• 59:51Matt Farah?

  There's a really good blue one in the neighborhood, yeah. So that is a Lecar. But with the engine in the back instead of the front. And that wide body, box flare, it's like a crazy rally car one. That is the only good variant of the R5, which in America, in Europe it was sold as R5 in, in, excuse me, in Ameri-, in Europe it was sold as the R5, in America it was sold as the Lecar. But that's the best and only actually good version. And also, how about this? This is a new electric Renault R5 Turbo 2. No, we don't care?

• 1:00:31Speaker 01

  I like the one, the red one.

• 1:00:33Matt Farah?

  That's the original.

• 1:00:34Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:00:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's the original, and then here's the new, like, electric one.

• 1:00:37Speaker 01

  It looks a little silly right now, but maybe it'll get better.

• 1:00:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and, well, they're sick. Take my word, the blue one looks awesome.

• 1:00:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, no, no, that is a very good one. Um, okay, just good to know. And what about the Suzuki Cappuccino?

• 1:00:54Matt Farah?

  I didn't, I didn't really think that was like on your, uh, that high up.

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  True, actually it isn't.

• 1:01:00Matt Farah?

  I know you like a cappuccino.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  I like saying Suzuki cappuccino more than I probably would enjoy a Suzuki cappuccino.

• 1:01:07Matt Farah?

  I'm gonna combine Sam England's question and Jay Cat's question. Who was the bigger cat person when we got together initially? And what is the ideal number of cats?

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  Oh, well Matt has an algorithm for this.

• 1:01:22Matt Farah?

  It's an algorithm, it's a formula.

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  It's not an algorithm, a formula, sorry.

• 1:01:26Matt Farah?

  It's a ratio, really, not even a formula. It's just two numbers on one side of a colon and then the other, then one number on the other side, yeah.

• 1:01:35Speaker 01

  This will be on the next SATs.

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  We, oh, that was the fake laugh, it's back.

• 1:01:42Matt Farah?

  Sometimes it comes up.

• 1:01:43Speaker 01

  It's problematic. No, well, we, we each had two cats coming to the table. Uh, Matt was down to like one and a half cat when I met him and then to one. But then, um, I don't know, I think, I don't know if it either was a bigger cat person per se.

• 1:02:01Matt Farah?

  We were equal cat people.

• 1:02:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think it was just about having animals.

• 1:02:04Matt Farah?

  Now we're, now we're like, kind of off the deep end.

• 1:02:07Speaker 01

  Now we're in it, yeah, things are out of control.

• 1:02:09Matt Farah?

  Um, okay, uh, huh, huh, huh. Do, alright, I'm trying to ask you more questions about you than questions for you.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  No, no, it's okay.

• 1:02:20Matt Farah?

  Uh, what quirks or habits? I suppose I did solicit that in the question, so it's my own fault.

• 1:02:26Speaker 01

  That's a question you asked.

• 1:02:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah, so I'm, the patriarchy is being...

• 1:02:28Speaker 01

  I don't mind talking about you.

• 1:02:29Matt Farah?

  Is being, yeah. Uh, my name is Lane but I identify as a street is a good one.

• 1:02:34Speaker 01

  Oh, that is very good.

• 1:02:35Matt Farah?

  Uh, what quirks or habits have you noticed about me while I'm driving? Do I have any?

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  Um, quirks or habits?

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  Well, I think the best thing about you while you're driving is that you don't mind when I dick around with the radio while you're driving. You really let me, you know, take that over.

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  The...

• 1:03:00Matt Farah?

  That's where the passenger screen in the Taycan really comes in handy.

• 1:03:02Speaker 01

  I'm not using the passenger screen in the Taycan.

• 1:03:05Matt Farah?

  Oh, are you too good for it?

• 1:03:06Speaker 01

  It's just too many things to touch.

• 1:03:08Matt Farah?

  There's things you can't do on the main screen if you're a passenger, like while driving. You can't type in things, you can't do certain things.

• 1:03:15Speaker 01

  Well, in our two months with this car, we have yet to need to type something in as a passenger.

• 1:03:21Matt Farah?

  Touche.

• 1:03:22Speaker 01

  No, the thing I will say is that you are, I find you're very inconsistent in your, like, aggressiveness or like, it's all cool, man.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  Like, mainly, I guess, if I do anything aggressive while driving, you're all, "Whoa, simmer down, little lady," like, "Not so much maneuvering." But, you know, if you're driving, you're all, "No, no, I know the formulas and the angles and I got this and..."

• 1:03:49Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, my lane placement, I'm really important. There's a method to, like, what lane to be in and where, for sure.

• 1:03:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:56Speaker 01

  But the one...

• 1:03:57Matt Farah?

  What you see as aggression, I see as science.

• 1:04:02Speaker 01

  The one, um, I know, I just lost it. I had, oh, one court of Matt's. It's not even bad habits while driving, it's just a bad thing about Matt, is, um, that if, like, I ever discover a shortcut and I point it out to Matt, he then takes ownership of that shortcut. Like, you know, like, on Los Angeles, when I was like, "You stay in the right lane, because that's all the people going to stalker." And then every time, we're on Los Angeles now, Matt's like, "You gotta stay in this right lane, this is how it goes."

• 1:04:33Speaker 01

  That's a hard one for me. But now I've said it out in public.

• 1:04:36Matt Farah?

  I shared it without fact-checking it. I mean, I was a real irresponsible podcaster. I should have had, I should have had Daniel Dale fact-check it first. Mike Hoochie's Harry. Are you sure it's not you?

• 1:04:49Speaker 01

  Asked the question, we'll see.

• 1:04:51Matt Farah?

  What is your favorite vintage toy that was pulled off the market?

• 1:04:56Matt Farah?

  It says for safety reasons. It says for safety, but I know your favorite one is not pulled off the market for safety.

• 1:05:02Speaker 01

  Right. The ones for safety, though, are kind of fascinating. I don't have, like, a favorite one, but there was, um, I believe there was, like, a science kit from a million years ago that had uranium in it.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  And there was also

• 1:05:15Matt Farah?

  Like

• 1:05:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I think so. And then there was also like

• 1:05:18Matt Farah?

  What year was that?

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  I mean, the 30s like

• 1:05:20Matt Farah?

  Okay, so it was like when they were putting radium in watches and shit too?

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  Yeah

• 1:05:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they were doing crazy shit with radium.

• 1:05:26Speaker 01

  Oh, well, the radium, those are the radium girls, that book we both read.

• 1:05:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah, TST reading list, radium, radium girls.

• 1:05:32Speaker 01

  Radium Girls, for sure. That was a great book.

• 1:05:34Matt Farah?

  Then wasn't there, wasn't the documentary like horrible, though?

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  We didn't, yeah, nothing about that.

• 1:05:38Matt Farah?

  Read the book, worth your time.

• 1:05:40Speaker 01

  There was another like CSI kit from a long time ago, that where like the powder used for fingerprinting was poisonous.

• 1:05:48Matt Farah?

  Cool.

• 1:05:49Speaker 01

  But then there was a Cabbage Patch Kid, there was like chomp and eat or chew and eat Cabbage Patch Kid, you know, whose jaws could like, ah, ah, ah. And the famous story is that it like ate a little kid's hair and like ripped it out of its head. I actually don't think that's true, but it could pinch your kid's fingers, you know, if you stuck it in there, so.

• 1:06:08Matt Farah?

  We mistakenly calibrated the torque and it's got like the strength of an alligator, who knew?

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  Who knew? It could keep going so intensely.

• 1:06:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah, uh, okay, okay. Dustin Height, at this point, can you detect when I am considering a car purchase before I voice the thought? If so, do I have a tell?

• 1:06:33Speaker 01

  Um, well, Matt starts, you start talking about the car a lot more, like, so it's not even like, you know, it's just like you start bringing it up in conversation. The Porsche, the Taycan, like, it was out of nowhere, you just started like saying it a lot. You know, it was kind of like, not osmosis-ing me, but like, you know, just getting, letting it marinate in the air so I would get used to it a little bit. But I mean, the Myers-Manks, you know, that, when I saw Matt's face, like, there was just no doubt in my mind that we weren't leaving without one. Remember in the morning, the next morning?

• 1:07:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:07:10Speaker 01

  He rolled over in bed and like looked at me with goo goo eyes and we were all, I really like that car. That's how I know.

• 1:07:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I'm so stoked on that thing. I can't wait to get it. There was two Mankes at that Cars and Coffee.

• 1:07:23Speaker 01

  Three, there's three there.

• 1:07:24Matt Farah?

  Was there a third one? Cool. Throw some D's on it. Do I have a different voice for the cats than for people?

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, yes.

• 1:07:31Matt Farah?

  Everybody does. Cats respond to like baby talk. They love that shit.

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  I don't even know if it's like baby talk, um, but you have a lot more just variation.

• 1:07:42Matt Farah?

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:44Matt Farah?

  I, I don't just like have a different voice for like the cats. I have a different voice for each cat.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  Very true.

• 1:07:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's well, cause they're, they're very different cats. They're different personalities. Oh, and if you, I, I, we, we gra- we glazed over it, but the ratio is, um, one cat

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  Oh, the formula.

• 1:08:04Matt Farah?

  One cat per thousand square feet.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:08:06Matt Farah?

  Is, uh, but you could easily do two, easily.

• 1:08:10Speaker 01

  Two cats for every thousand square feet?

• 1:08:12Matt Farah?

  For the first thousand. Like if you live in a thousand square foot apartment, you could have two cats.

• 1:08:16Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:17Matt Farah?

  And then beyond that, the ideal ratio is one per thousand.

• 1:08:20Speaker 01

  But, but I still will stand by if the cat distribution system like sends one your way.

• 1:08:24Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, cushion. There's always a cushion.

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's always room for one more.

• 1:08:28Matt Farah?

  It's just a golden, it's a golden ratio, like the Parthenon, but with cats.

• 1:08:33Speaker 01

  But I'm not getting any more litter boxes.

• 1:08:35Matt Farah?

  Well, that's the other thing.

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  That's a draw a line. And now we get Jackson Galaxy involved. There's so much to be said here.

• 1:08:40Matt Farah?

  Misha was so insistent about the, the robe litter robots, which they're cool, but they're huge.

• 1:08:45Speaker 01

  They're huge. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:46Matt Farah?

  You need to like have a, convert a bedroom into like a toilet room.

• 1:08:50Speaker 01

  I mean, we basically have that anyway.

• 1:08:54Matt Farah?

  Uh, Klapman's freshman dorm bed. Um, wrote a lot of words, but long story short, are there any podcasts that you enjoy or would recommend?

• 1:09:04Speaker 01

  Oh, um, I, there is no one podcast that I'll put on and blanket love whatever they talk about. Like there used to be old Radiolab episodes. I could just put it on while doing a jigsaw puzzle and was very happy. Um, so no, but there are then select episodes of podcasts, um, that I certainly listen, have listened to or have recommended. But I'd say for us, my favorite is, um, to make Matt, you know, like when Matt and I are in the car and he's listening to The Dollop or Behind the Bastards or like one of the, you know, more intense history ones, then I'll kind of counter it by listening to an episode of Normal Gossip, uh, which is an excellent podcast.

• 1:09:44Matt Farah?

  Normal Gossip is kind of, is kind of fun.

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  Yes, it's two, it's two people discussing someone else's gossip, um, and just like a real dumb story, but you get really excited about other people's drama. So I'd say that one.

• 1:09:59Matt Farah?

  Village Idiot, would you ever come on one of the road and track events? Or is that mixing public and private life too much?

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  I like to let you kind of do your job on those things. Like on those kinds of events, Matt's job is to be really social, to be like really chatty. And I don't have a huge social battery and I don't like, I can't talk about car stuff with as much excitement. So I don't think I'd be an add to any of those events for Matt.

• 1:10:27Matt Farah?

  Matt is an add by coming on the recce's with me and finding-

• 1:10:31Speaker 01

  The what? The recce?

• 1:10:33Matt Farah?

  The recce.

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  What's a recce?

• 1:10:34Matt Farah?

  It's a reconnaissance. The scout.

• 1:10:36Speaker 01

  Who says that?

• 1:10:37Matt Farah?

  Rally drivers.

• 1:10:40Speaker 01

  So like, am I a rally driver now?

• 1:10:42Matt Farah?

  We were scouting a rally. That's literally recce. It may not have been like a competitive rally, but like-

• 1:10:48Speaker 01

  Is there a satin jacket or something like that?

• 1:10:49Matt Farah?

  The term of- I can get you some swag?

• 1:10:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:52Matt Farah?

  We'll talk about swag on the other end. Yeah. You probably worked something out.

• 1:10:55Speaker 01

  Recce's. Alright, go on.

• 1:10:57Matt Farah?

  You contribute in other ways. Like the last Arizona rally, like your side, your little side excursions were a big hit.

• 1:11:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, no, I like, I enjoy a road trip. I enjoy all of those things. I enjoy it with Matt, but on those things, I like to let Matt work.

• 1:11:11Matt Farah?

  And it-

• 1:11:12Speaker 01

  And we save on a cat sitter.

• 1:11:14Matt Farah?

  It's fun, and it's fun, but it is work.

• 1:11:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:16Matt Farah?

  Auto Kennel Paul, what's your favorite dish that I cook? And what's your, the best thing that you cook? You wouldn't say that you cook very well, but you read a recipe and cook from a recipe well more often than you don't.

• 1:11:33Speaker 01

  Yes, well, you're just a more confident cook.

• 1:11:36Matt Farah?

  Well, it's a passion.

• 1:11:37Speaker 01

  I mean, there's that, yeah. Like, you know, I overdo all the meats because I'm afraid I'm going to kill us both. And I really only stick right to a recipe. But my favorite thing that Matt makes is a hot peanut butter, I guess a grilled peanut butter and chili sandwich.

• 1:11:51Matt Farah?

  Oh, grilled PB and J?

• 1:11:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's hardcore.

• 1:11:53Speaker 01

  That really- I remember I was sick last year and I asked you for one and I was laying on the couch and I like jellyed all over myself and then you had to come clean it up.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  But while I was sick-

• 1:12:03Matt Farah?

  Instagram clip number two.

• 1:12:07Speaker 01

  It was like the only thing I wanted and it was so perfect.

• 1:12:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, man, that's that's like from my college days. We used to fuck with that in when I was living in the frat house. Uh, and we had one of them big commercial kitchens for like fifty people with a with a huge abachi. Like probably, probably four of what we have in our house. Like fucking doo doo and we would make a rack. We would do, we do a whole loaf tops, whole loaf bottoms. Grilled PB and J.

• 1:12:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:38Matt Farah?

  Fabulous.

• 1:12:39Speaker 01

  That's, that's a pretty delicious.

• 1:12:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you can't have a bad time fucking with a grilled PB and J.

• 1:12:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:44Matt Farah?

  Definitely. Gotta go slightly, uh, heavy on the peanut butter. Uh, and then you're there, then you're in the game. And also not squish it too hard like the cheese, cause then you, you know, you gotta give it, you keep it pretty fluffy.

• 1:12:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:58Matt Farah?

  Uh, light pressure.

• 1:13:01Matt Farah?

  Uh, okay, I'm not fat, my waistband just uses the NASCAR line at Coda. Uh, do you understand what that means?

• 1:13:10Speaker 01

  Um.

• 1:13:11Matt Farah?

  It's it. Shit.

• 1:13:13Speaker 01

  Earthquake.

• 1:13:13Matt Farah?

  I'm not used to that camera being there.

• 1:13:14Speaker 01

  Earthquake.

• 1:13:15Matt Farah?

  And when I sit there, that camera isn't there, I'm sorry.

• 1:13:20Speaker 01

  Um, it just, no.

• 1:13:22Matt Farah?

  Uh, nothing, it's a joke about fatness. Uh, which human does each cat prefer?

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  Oh, very easy. Cricket prefers me. Monty, uh, Nikki prefers Matt. Finn can work Matt a lot better, like Finn is.

• 1:13:38Matt Farah?

  Finn is a drama king.

• 1:13:39Speaker 01

  He, Matt gives in to Finn.

• 1:13:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:41Speaker 01

  A lot.

• 1:13:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:42Speaker 01

  But then Finn like also knows to like then at night come and snuggle with him and like, you know, that way tomorrow morning. Um, and then Monty, I don't think Monty has a favorite between us.

• 1:13:54Matt Farah?

  Monty likes you better, but sleeps with me more.

• 1:13:58Speaker 01

  I mean, first of all, Monty tried to kill me. So.

• 1:14:01Matt Farah?

  True.

• 1:14:01Speaker 01

  He has to like me.

• 1:14:03Matt Farah?

  Tried, I would say a thing that he was inside of him tried, but he didn't, he didn't try. He was like two pounds. He didn't try. He didn't even wanna leave the truck. He was like

• 1:14:15Speaker 01

  Oh, so I was asking for it, is what you're saying.

• 1:14:17Matt Farah?

  And what were you wearing?

• 1:14:19Speaker 01

  Right, no, and I shouldn't have been wearing those short sleeves, I guess.

• 1:14:23Matt Farah?

  Uh, right, that's true. No, yeah, yeah. We should have, we should have had a, um, PPE.

• 1:14:30Speaker 01

  But once again, I will point out, at that time, I was so afraid of bringing fleas into the house

• 1:14:36Matt Farah?

  No, you, yeah.

• 1:14:37Speaker 01

  That I would strip down naked, put all the clothes in the dryer, and then go immediately shower. And you would like, roll on the floor with him, and then roll on the floor with the other cats, and then roll in our bed, and like, you were fine.

• 1:14:48Matt Farah?

  But it was the crucial 12 hours before I got home, where that shit went down. He had a bath by the time I got home. He had all that shit.

• 1:14:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're right.

• 1:14:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah. He was a clean fluff by the time I got home.

• 1:15:00Speaker 01

  A little springer.

• 1:15:02Matt Farah?

  Like, three different people, that might all be you, actually, uh, really want to know about Twitter. Uh, the best version of that question is, how does it feel to be dogged before it became cool?

• 1:15:19Speaker 01

  That's very funny.

• 1:15:20Matt Farah?

  The real, the framing of the question should be, are, how, 0 to 10, how exactly the same is what's happened to our government, what happened to Twitter, as you watched?

• 1:15:33Speaker 01

  I mean, you know, look, people, people have a way, people have a playbook, you know, people don't stray far.

• 1:15:42Speaker 01

  But I really like the idea of being a trendsetter in the space. That makes me really happy. I mean, the, the ski instructor I just had, he had gotten let go from the National Park Service. And it was a really nice bonding.

• 1:15:54Matt Farah?

  Shout out to Eric.

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  Oh, Eric, he was lovely.

• 1:15:56Matt Farah?

  Eric at the Yellowstone Club got fucking dogged.

• 1:15:59Speaker 01

  Uh, he did get dogged, and then had to put up with me, Vin and Julian, for two days.

• 1:16:04Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah. Do you want to talk about the fact, do you want to, you want to vent, fucking blow up my spot again for not putting the video of you skiing on Instagram?

• 1:16:12Speaker 01

  No, no, not at all. I was actually just gonna say more about Eric. The best part of Eric is, we had him on day one, weren't scheduled to have him on day two, and then like, in the middle of the night, we managed to like, get his schedule changed, so he had us. And when Julian and I saw him in the morning and said like, "Hey, like, aren't you excited you got to go with us again today?", he went, "It's fine."

• 1:16:31Speaker 01

  And that's why I loved him.

• 1:16:34Speaker 01

  But no, uh, being a trans center is the best part of, yeah, the Twitter dumpster fire.

• 1:16:41Speaker 01

  The, but yeah, it is kind of terrifying to watch our government go through the same thing and just this notion that like, this is one dude knows everything.

• 1:16:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:51Speaker 01

  You don't need all these other people.

• 1:16:53Matt Farah?

  And like, you know, Twitter, I suppose in a, in a basic structure, still kind of like limps along.

• 1:17:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:01Matt Farah?

  You know, it's not like, it's not, it's not broken to where it's like dead, but it's broken to where it's like pretty much unfixable.

• 1:17:09Speaker 01

  Well, it's, it's not even that. It's, it's, it's working for a select few people.

• 1:17:14Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 1:17:15Speaker 01

  And that's where the analogy really comes in.

• 1:17:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, true. Yeah. But yeah, you, you, we should have some shirts made or something.

• 1:17:26Speaker 01

  Really should.

• 1:17:26Matt Farah?

  You were fucking, you were doged first. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. Um, I hope someone, I hope somebody writes the book. Let's see. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.

• 1:17:44Matt Farah?

  Mad Gellonic, if you could swap me for any car, what, what car would it be?

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  A Leica.

• 1:17:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the world's best Leica.

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  I don't even know how to answer that question.

• 1:17:57Matt Farah?

  Seems a little loaded, honestly. Um.

• 1:18:00Speaker 01

  I'm sorry.

• 1:18:01Matt Farah?

  Do you want to talk about watches? Do you, you don't really care that?

• 1:18:03Speaker 01

  I just don't have that much to offer with them.

• 1:18:07Matt Farah?

  Uh, Kip Katchet, Katchetka? I'm sorry, Kip. Appreciate you. Can't pronounce your last name. What advice would you give men wanting to be better advocates for women in the workplace?

• 1:18:21Speaker 01

  Ooh. Um.

• 1:18:25Speaker 01

  I think the biggest one is letting them speak. Meaning, you know, don't talk over them. Make sure, you know, in a meeting, if the woman's not speaking up, you know, maybe asking her if she has any thoughts on it, you know, or just really allowing them the same airtime that men get. I mean, obviously, there's a million other things you could do, et cetera, et cetera, but that, to me, was always the biggest one. It's like, you know, my career, I have seen many men who, you know, suddenly are experts in research, who can talk right over me, not give me any airspace, and then like 10 minutes later be like, "So you're doing all this, right? Thanks, bye." So I think that's the biggest one.

• 1:19:08Matt Farah?

  Dan Deru says, "Do you have any stories," and you don't have to use the name of the company, "of companies either asking or doing questionable things in the name of increasing sales?"

• 1:19:23Speaker 01

  I don't think it, no. I mean, I've never worked for a company that had really, truly ill intent. I think a lot of companies, you know, start out wanting to do good things and then have to report to Wall Street, you know, have to get certain numbers, and they end up making very bad choices. But I've never seen, you know, never seen any company be like, "Ooh, this is gonna kill, you know, children, let's ship it anyway."

• 1:19:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:49Speaker 01

  You know, but I have seen the like, well, like...

• 1:19:53Matt Farah?

  Read Ralph Nader on Safe at Any Speed for plenty of that.

• 1:19:56Speaker 01

  Yes, for plenty of that. But I have seen the like, "Well, let's just like, cost reduce these good features out of this, just to hit the margin." And that's so sad.

• 1:20:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:04Speaker 01

  And you can just see that happening right in front of you.

• 1:20:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Check your fucking food packaging. Shrinkflation is going down.

• 1:20:14Speaker 01

  Wouldn't that be is going up?

• 1:20:18Matt Farah?

  Right. I didn't mean, I meant like going down like, it's going down.

• 1:20:22Speaker 01

  Oh, it's going down. Like nice stick, man.

• 1:20:24Matt Farah?

  Sorry, I realize, that's why I'm not an economist, because I use slang words that are the literal opposite of what they should probably fucking mean. Uh, did I ask, I thi- I don't think I did. Eric Tiergood, would you rather have the Pow or the Delica converted to EV if it was gonna be done for free?

• 1:20:45Speaker 01

  The Pow. Just because, I mean, it would be very funny, a car that gives us electrical problems if we just made that electric.

• 1:20:52Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 1:20:52Speaker 01

  I could move on.

• 1:20:53Matt Farah?

  Possibly solve that problem.

• 1:20:54Speaker 01

  But I, one of the things I love about the Delica, to go back to the other question, is the way it sounds. You know, that little like, the diesel, yeah, the diesel.

• 1:21:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the Delica is also like, the Pow doesn't have a function. It's a little toy, right?

• 1:21:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:08Matt Farah?

  So, it might as well be in a little electric toy. Like, why, why have a shitty gas engine in it?

• 1:21:13Speaker 01

  What if we burble tuned the?

• 1:21:16Matt Farah?

  It kinda does on, when you start it up, already. But like, but like, the engine is like a liability in that car. It's not an asset. It's a shitty little one liter fucking piece of junk.

• 1:21:28Speaker 01

  How did you describe that car when I first saw it and really loved it?

• 1:21:31Matt Farah?

  A beach chair on wheels? Yeah, which is, I think, very accurate.

• 1:21:34Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:21:35Matt Farah?

  Um, that car would be a fabulous electric car, cause it doesn't weigh shit. There's like all kinds of room in the trunk, you could put batteries.

• 1:21:42Speaker 01

  If we made it an electric car, I'd still want it to beep at a hundred and eight kilometers an hour. Just for old times' sake.

• 1:21:49Matt Farah?

  To remind you.

• 1:21:50Speaker 01

  Just to remind me.

• 1:21:51Matt Farah?

  God, we should have had Mad Mike get rid of that. For all that money, fuck. It'll probably end up back there eventually.

• 1:21:59Speaker 01

  Not if someone makes it an EV at no charge.

• 1:22:03Matt Farah?

  Oh yeah, if whoever offered that, uh, Eric, if you by any chance are in the business of converting D-list celebrities' wives' cars to EV at absolutely no charge, let's go. Call me.

• 1:22:21Matt Farah?

  Um, that's, we had, there was a lot of overlapping questions. So I think we, I think we pretty much, uh, I, I, there were some at the bottom that I didn't get to because they were about me. But I did, I did say we were talking about dirt. So let me just go back to the beginning before I call. No, I said you were gonna talk shit about me. So people were opening the door for you to talk shit about me.

• 1:22:43Speaker 01

  Do you remember in the first podcast we did together, my favorite question that someone had asked about you?

• 1:22:48Matt Farah?

  No, because I was drunk.

• 1:22:50Speaker 01

  Um, it was if you refer, it's either if you refer, if you prefer for your, if, I think it's if you refer to your own head as your dome piece. It was the greatest question.

• 1:23:04Matt Farah?

  It's a very funny question.

• 1:23:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:08Matt Farah?

  Uh, okay, uh, buy in that, whoa.

• 1:23:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, buy in that, okay, no, I guess there must be a character limit and someone use it. Good username, buy in that government ain't gonna fix your daddy issues.

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:23:24Matt Farah?

  That's an Elon Musk.

• 1:23:25Speaker 01

  Yes, I, I got that one, thank you.

• 1:23:27Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool, sorry.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. Recys I don't get, but that very long Elon Musk one I got.

• 1:23:33Matt Farah?

  Okay, we'll work, we'll start at Musk and work your way to the WRC. Um, do you know what the WRC is? That's the rally.

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  Yes, the rally one, I got that one.

• 1:23:40Matt Farah?

  Uh, what's one thing that you wish I would come do with you for fun that I don't do?

• 1:23:47Speaker 01

  I, well, I think it's more, I wish when, well, I guess one, go to Target.

• 1:23:55Matt Farah?

  I go to Target.

• 1:23:57Speaker 01

  But in general, Matt is a very, um, goal oriented shopper and I really like to wander and look at stuff. Um, and so a lot of times I'll be like, oh, here's like a stuff store, let me go in. And then Matt stands right outside the door on his phone, which is not like.

• 1:24:15Matt Farah?

  I mean, I think, I, I'm sure like, this is a show for, for, not for men, that's not accurate. But this is a show predominantly listened to by men.

• 1:24:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:24Matt Farah?

  And I'm sure most of them can relate to the, you know, my, my wife wants to browse the store. And I, I should be better at it and shut the fuck up about it.

• 1:24:34Speaker 01

  No, no, it's, I mean, you don't, you certainly don't complain. It's just my own, like, I start to feel pressure when you're out there.

• 1:24:40Matt Farah?

  I'm an efficient shopper.

• 1:24:41Speaker 01

  I am, I'm usually looking at pretty interesting stuff.

• 1:24:47Speaker 01

  And I think you could be a little more excited about it. Like when I'm shaking the blind boxes to see if I can tell by the weight what's inside of them.

• 1:24:55Matt Farah?

  You had me going and then you lost me.

• 1:25:00Matt Farah?

  You had me going at like you could be a better husband about this and then you lost me at and the stuff I'm looking at, it's really interesting.

• 1:25:08Speaker 01

  It's some top notch stuff. I'm just saying, I'm not looking at like floral arrangements, which could be interesting to some.

• 1:25:14Matt Farah?

  If you were only, someone asked what kind of, I forgot I closed the computer, but someone asked what kind of vintage toys you like to collect and it's big colorful, plastic 70's ones mostly, right?

• 1:25:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I love big plastic. Then there's other subsets, like the other collection I recently wanted to start that you were not about was plush with rubber faces. Those were terrifying, but I feel like the monster room could use a little bit more love. And really weird looking monsters, but the number one is oversized. Plastic, colorful plastic. Wait, let me hold on, let me see if I have any other questions for you.

• 1:25:52Matt Farah?

  We're approaching, we're about eight minutes from the end.

• 1:25:55Speaker 01

  Do you need me to?

• 1:26:02Matt Farah?

  Fuck, what if Hannah had a better career in broadcasting, she could.

• 1:26:06Speaker 01

  Can you name two things I hate? In life?

• 1:26:10Matt Farah?

  Probably name a bunch of things.

• 1:26:12Speaker 01

  Hit me.

• 1:26:13Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:26:15Matt Farah?

  Me not remembering things.

• 1:26:17Speaker 01

  Interestingly, not on my list, but go on, it's true, it is true.

• 1:26:22Matt Farah?

  Oh wow. This is one of these tough ones where you do this sometimes to me, where you ask me something that seems like it should be an easy thing, but like when, do you remember what happened the last time I did this? I put, you put me on the spot, I didn't have an answer, and you got real mad. And didn't talk to me for a little while.

• 1:26:42Speaker 01

  Okay, but when you say like didn't talk to you for a little while, we were talking like nine minutes and then

• 1:26:46Matt Farah?

  No, no.

• 1:26:46Speaker 01

  And then I wanted like a cookie or something.

• 1:26:48Matt Farah?

  It was probably like an hour or two. It was, we were both at home.

• 1:26:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then, no, but then you did the sweetest thing.

• 1:26:54Matt Farah?

  And then what did I do?

• 1:26:55Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:26:56Matt Farah?

  I made a list of all the things, I sat down in a little quiet corner and I made a list of all the things I could think of and fucking shocker, there was a lot of them if I wasn't put on the spot. And I thought of a whole bunch of things that were in whatever the category was.

• 1:27:13Speaker 01

  Can you name anything that was on that list?

• 1:27:15Matt Farah?

  I'm sure if you asked me what the category was again, I don't remember what the list was about.

• 1:27:20Speaker 01

  No, the list, eh, eh, that, that whole, yeah, weird spiral I went into is that, like, you don't know anything about me.

• 1:27:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:26Speaker 01

  And that we're strangers to each other.

• 1:27:28Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 1:27:28Speaker 01

  And I was very concerned about that. And, um...

• 1:27:31Matt Farah?

  Leave a comment if you think she's right.

• 1:27:38Speaker 01

  And then you wrote a list. The list was just things you know about me.

• 1:27:42Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah. You were literally like, "Name three things you know about me." Which is like...

• 1:27:49Matt Farah?

  You know, which, if you're put on the spot as like a, you know, not an argument, but like a, you know, under pressure. And, you know, I just sort of like, you wanna think of, but you're just, you collapse under the...

• 1:28:04Speaker 01

  No, I, I totally get it.

• 1:28:06Matt Farah?

  Under the weight. It turns out, when I had like five minutes to sit down and think about it, I knew an awful lot of things as a... But like, bleh!

• 1:28:14Speaker 01

  Alright, fine, I'll skip that. What's the most disgusting food that you like?

• 1:28:20Matt Farah?

  That you don't like, that I like?

• 1:28:21Speaker 01

  I don't think anyone else likes. No, no. Like, I just don't think you should be allowed to eat this.

• 1:28:28Matt Farah?

  Something I, because it's like unhealthy?

• 1:28:31Speaker 01

  No, 'cause it's gross.

• 1:28:33Matt Farah?

  And it's not oysters?

• 1:28:34Speaker 01

  No. That's a different, like, that's a whole other thing.

• 1:28:36Matt Farah?

  It's, okay. Something that I eat that's gross?

• 1:28:40Speaker 01

  For oysters, for the record, you're allowed to eat them. What you can't do is that thing everyone does at the end where they go like, "Ooh, ah, blam, blam the shell down." And they're like, "Oh my god, the brine." Like, enough already.

• 1:28:52Speaker 01

  That's, that's an oyster thing.

• 1:28:54Matt Farah?

  You have to, you have to eat it like it's a diner cheeseburger, like, at the airport?

• 1:28:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, like it's an airport oyster.

• 1:29:01Matt Farah?

  Alright, so no enjoying oysters. Okay, great.

• 1:29:03Speaker 01

  Just not the big show.

• 1:29:04Matt Farah?

  Something I eat that you think is gross.

• 1:29:06Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Alright, fine. Cinnamon raisin bagel with lox cream cheese.

• 1:29:11Matt Farah?

  Oh, I mean, look, that's, that's something. Let me be very clear about this. That, you're right, yes, that is, you do think that's gross. I, when was the last time I actually had that?

• 1:29:23Speaker 01

  I mean, I wouldn't let that combination in the house.

• 1:29:26Matt Farah?

  That was something I ate when I was a kid.

• 1:29:28Speaker 01

  If I got a dozen bagels and there was a cinnamon raisin bagel in there, I would.

• 1:29:33Matt Farah?

  A cinnamon raisin bagel with cream cheese is a lovely thing. That's a good, that's good.

• 1:29:37Speaker 01

  That's like a hard muffin. That's like a sad muffin.

• 1:29:41Matt Farah?

  If you're at a brunch, it's alright. It's good.

• 1:29:44Speaker 01

  It's not a bagel.

• 1:29:45Matt Farah?

  I used to, but that's not actually even the weirdest sandwich that we used to have. My dad's weird sandwich was way fucking weirder than that sandwich.

• 1:29:53Speaker 01

  What was that?

• 1:29:53Matt Farah?

  My dad used to fuck with a pita. I shit you not. Open up the pocket.

• 1:30:00Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:30:01Matt Farah?

  Peanut butter.

• 1:30:02Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:30:02Matt Farah?

  Both, both inner walls of the pocket with peanut butter. And then two slices of American cheese down in the pocket.

• 1:30:13Matt Farah?

  And it's flat. That's it. Peanut butter and American cheese. No, no.

• 1:30:17Speaker 01

  That's disgusting.

• 1:30:18Matt Farah?

  Raw dog. Raw dog.

• 1:30:19Speaker 01

  That's disgusting.

• 1:30:20Matt Farah?

  I'll tell you what, it tastes good.

• 1:30:22Speaker 01

  I mean, I, I.

• 1:30:24Matt Farah?

  It does actually taste good.

• 1:30:25Speaker 01

  Isn't that something like Elvis ate?

• 1:30:27Matt Farah?

  That was grilled peanut butter and banana.

• 1:30:30Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:30:30Matt Farah?

  Which is, I mean, and I think there's peanut butter, honey and banana.

• 1:30:33Speaker 01

  No, isn't that marshmallow, wasn't fluffer, fluffer nut?

• 1:30:37Matt Farah?

  That's a different thing. Elvis was grilled, it was peanut butter, honey and banana.

• 1:30:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:30:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:42Speaker 01

  Um.

• 1:30:43Matt Farah?

  Cause I remember we made it once and I, I, I get how he gained fifty pounds on that. That's delicious as fuck. If you would just have, if you have a personal chef and a whole bunch of yes men around you, of course. Fucking everybody, one for you and, and you get a peanut butter and banana, and you get a peanut butter, yeah.

• 1:31:00Speaker 01

  Um.

• 1:31:01Matt Farah?

  But if you ever, if anyone wants to try something weird and different. Peanut butter and cheese, American, uh, slice on pita.

• 1:31:08Speaker 01

  Oh, captains of industry eat it. You can eat it too. On vacation.

• 1:31:13Matt Farah?

  I made it once when you were out of town.

• 1:31:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, that sounds like something I would eat when you're out of town.

• 1:31:18Matt Farah?

  It does.

• 1:31:20Speaker 01

  When we're on vacation, what's something I love and you hate?

• 1:31:24Matt Farah?

  Sitting still?

• 1:31:27Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:31:27Matt Farah?

  That counts, though.

• 1:31:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:31:29Matt Farah?

  That's like the main thing.

• 1:31:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, but.

• 1:31:32Matt Farah?

  Something you love and I hate.

• 1:31:34Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. This is a hard question.

• 1:31:38Matt Farah?

  And it applies to all vacations?

• 1:31:39Speaker 01

  Every vacation. To the point where I've kind of stopped doing it, which is fine. Just, you know, you can dash my dreams.

• 1:31:46Matt Farah?

  Like a themed article of clothing or flair?

• 1:31:49Speaker 01

  Matching shirts.

• 1:31:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah, okay. Yeah, alright.

• 1:31:51Speaker 01

  I almost dug out my Hanna Matana shirt today, but didn't.

• 1:31:55Matt Farah?

  I was a little concerned about that one.

• 1:31:58Speaker 01

  Why?

• 1:31:59Matt Farah?

  Not because of its creativity, but because the intention was to wear that to Africa, which I, I, I think as a white guy, you know, even though it was like seven years ago, I still, I think that's a dicey move. I, that I.

• 1:32:16Speaker 01

  We were gonna wear it on the, like, on the flight to JFK before we got on the flight to Johannesburg.

• 1:32:22Matt Farah?

  If I didn't wear it the whole way, you would have not been happy.

• 1:32:26Speaker 01

  But also, you know that clothes I wear on an airplane, I basically burn afterwards and they don't ever get worn again. We were not gonna be like walking the streets.

• 1:32:34Matt Farah?

  I felt uncomfortable going to Africa, wearing a joke with a Lion King pun reference on my shirt.

• 1:32:43Speaker 01

  Hanna Matana, that was great.

• 1:32:46Matt Farah?

  It was.

• 1:32:47Speaker 01

  It was better than Galapa going. That was a bad one.

• 1:32:50Matt Farah?

  Fabulous wordplay that I will cherish forever in your smarts, in your creativity.

• 1:32:57Speaker 01

  Will you put it in my vitriol?

• 1:32:58Matt Farah?

  I'll put it on your fucking tombstone.

• 1:33:00Speaker 01

  I don't want a tombstone. I want to be made into a firework or a diamond that my niece has to put into her tooth.

• 1:33:06Matt Farah?

  What if I, well, I don't know. I'm not, probably not gonna outlive you. It's probably not gonna happen.

• 1:33:10Speaker 01

  I mean, in general, women live long. Although women live seven years longer, I'm X amount of years older.

• 1:33:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we're cutting it pretty close. It's fifty-fifty.

• 1:33:20Speaker 01

  Okay, last question. Good one to close out the show on.

• 1:33:22Matt Farah?

  Perfect. We're at one twenty-nine.

• 1:33:26Speaker 01

  I'll just, so I'll just wait a few seconds to make sure we get over.

• 1:33:32Speaker 01

  What is the name of the one Pearl Jam song that I know and you don't?

• 1:33:37Matt Farah?

  Oh, um, um, Grammy out of control.

• 1:33:40Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:33:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:33:41Speaker 01

  Good job.

• 1:33:41Matt Farah?

  That was a, that was a fucking, the, the, a moment. We witnessed, I've seen so many Pearl Jam shows, we witnessed the one and only live performance in the history of Pearl Jam of this song. I had never fucking heard it before and Hannah knew every word. It was some mind blowing ass shit.

• 1:33:58Speaker 01

  It was a very weird moment in our relationship.

• 1:34:00Matt Farah?

  Some obscure ass soundtrack.

• 1:34:02Speaker 01

  There's the Surf Rider Foundation. Yeah, Jeff Glucker knew the song.

• 1:34:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:06Speaker 01

  He was very into it.

• 1:34:07Matt Farah?

  Jeff Glucker is, is actually a more hardcore Pearl Jam fan than I am, even though I've been to more shows than him.

• 1:34:12Speaker 01

  Jeff Glucker's wonderful.

• 1:34:13Matt Farah?

  He is. He'll be here on Sunday.

• 1:34:15Speaker 01

  Oh, good.

• 1:34:16Matt Farah?

  For the one thousandth episode.

• 1:34:19Speaker 01

  A thousand?

• 1:34:20Matt Farah?

  Of the Smoking Tire podcast.

• 1:34:22Speaker 01

  So since 2012, you said?

• 1:34:24Matt Farah?

  Yes, be, yes. 2012. The, uh, I thought it was the fall of 2011, but it was, it was January of 2012. We are.

• 1:34:32Speaker 01

  So great. I'm really proud of you, Matt Farah.

• 1:34:34Matt Farah?

  Somebody, thanks baby, someone suggested that we pull out clips from like the early shows and they're... I'm not so ashamed of them to take them off the internet, they're a fun record, but like, I can, there's no way I can listen to like old cringey ass clips of things I used to say.

• 1:34:50Speaker 01

  Um, sure.

• 1:34:52Matt Farah?

  I wasn't always, I wasn't always as, "Do you see this beard? This is the beard."

• 1:34:57Speaker 01

  "Do you see these glasses? These reading glasses?"

• 1:35:00Matt Farah?

  This beard? I'm following the Seth Rogen arc.

• 1:35:05Speaker 01

  When did we meet? 2014?

• 1:35:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah, August.

• 1:35:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, you were already deep into that.

• 1:35:08Matt Farah?

  August 28th, 2014.

• 1:35:10Speaker 01

  Um.

• 1:35:10Matt Farah?

  Dating anniversary.

• 1:35:11Speaker 01

  You were deep into the podcast by then.

• 1:35:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we were doing it, we were in the, we were out of the...

• 1:35:16Speaker 01

  The other office.

• 1:35:17Matt Farah?

  When I moved to Venice, we were out of the original house and at the, at the shitty office.

• 1:35:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:35:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:22Speaker 01

  But this has been lovely. Thank you for suffering through me instead of Paul, who would have been the greatest, greatest guest.

• 1:35:29Matt Farah?

  Second place. Second place.

• 1:35:32Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:35:33Matt Farah?

  Leave a comment if you think I know anything about my wife, or if she knows anything about me.

• 1:35:37Speaker 01

  Your dad once said that we make a good team. And I think that's true.

• 1:35:40Matt Farah?

  My dad said that?

• 1:35:41Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:35:41Matt Farah?

  He's smart.

• 1:35:42Speaker 01

  He said it when he came out for the surprise, when he surprised you for the opening of WCCS.

• 1:35:46Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:35:47Speaker 01

  Basically, I'm pretty sure he said that because you were socializing with people. And like, people would like, give you gifts or something, and I would like, quietly walk up behind you and take the gift and go like, put it away somewhere, and then make sure everyone had coffee. And that, pretty much, like-

• 1:36:01Matt Farah?

  So you're saying like, you're a good team, he was like, really saying like, you represent fabulous traditional gender marriage roles?

• 1:36:08Speaker 01

  Well, you have been so obsessed lately with tradwives that-

• 1:36:12Matt Farah?

  I have been obsessed with tradwives?

• 1:36:14Speaker 01

  You have talked about tradwives and tradwife clothing, a lot lately.

• 1:36:17Matt Farah?

  Only on, only on a couple of days, and only because I watched some more news 50-minute thing on-

• 1:36:22Speaker 01

  Days ending in "w-"

• 1:36:23Matt Farah?

  On tradwives.

• 1:36:24Speaker 01

  No, no, no, your dad just like, was observing us in action.

• 1:36:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I think he's right. He's smart.

• 1:36:31Speaker 01

  He's a smart guy.

• 1:36:32Matt Farah?

  He's smart.

• 1:36:32Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 1:36:33Matt Farah?

  We're getting there, it's dinnertime, isn't it?

• 1:36:34Speaker 01

  I'd like some dinner, please.

• 1:36:35Matt Farah?

  It is, me too, I want some dinner, it's 8:18.

• 1:36:38Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:36:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:39Speaker 01

  You have to be in bed soon.

• 1:36:40Matt Farah?

  Let's, let's fucking go, that's our show, that's my wife. She's great.

• 1:36:45Speaker 01

  You're great.

• 1:36:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we're great.

• 1:36:50Matt Farah?

  We're back, we're back on Thursday with Jerry Seinfeld, me and Zach from Jerry's Hangar. There's some like, airplanes that take off in the background a couple of times.

• 1:36:59Speaker 01

  That's fine.

• 1:37:00Matt Farah?

  We're at a hangar, but yeah, 90 Minutes with Seinfeld, you can just watch him crush my soul a few times, it's, it's fun and brutal, and then the 1,000th episode. Sunday the 30th is going to be a live podcasting extravaganza with many guests. And, I mean, hopefully I make it, that's, that's like, we've done 90 minutes.

• 1:37:21Speaker 01

  Like, you make it until Sunday?

• 1:37:23Matt Farah?

  No, till the end.

• 1:37:23Speaker 01

  Oh, oh.

• 1:37:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah, hopefully I make it till Sunday. Hannah, there's something I have to tell you.

• 1:37:29Matt Farah?

  Love you guys, thanks to our, our patrons, they're the best. Get in on that Patreon.

• 1:37:33Speaker 01

  Those are excellent questions.

• 1:37:34Matt Farah?

  They were great questions, yeah.

• 1:37:35Speaker 01

  More people should be patrons.

• 1:37:36Matt Farah?

  And ultimately, the success of this show is gonna be within the Patreon, not, not from advertising, so, if you wanna keep it going, get in the game, be, be invested, we appreciate it very much. Uh, see you next time.

• 1:37:47Speaker 01

  See you at 1,999 when I let back again.

• 1:37:50Matt Farah?

  See you in four more years. Bye.