Essence Fest Live with Kandi Burruss: Real Talk and Real Housewives

Baby, This Is Keke Palmer is LIVE from the Essence Fest stage and the energy is EVERYTHING! Keke kicks things off with an exclusive clip from her new Prime Video movie 'The Pickup', then sits down with the amazing Kandi Burruss. They get into Real Housewives real talk (is a Phaedra reunion even possible?), generational clashes with Mama Joyce and Gen Z daughter Riley, and why Tina Knowles recently had Kandi in tears. Then the crowd joins in on the action as Keke and Kandi test out sexy (and some seriously flop-worthy) pick up lines. You may have missed Essence Fest, but you're still invited to the party! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Keke Palmer?

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• 0:17Keke Palmer?

  How y'all doing? You know it's show, girl!

• 0:23Keke Palmer?

  You guys, baby, this is Keke Palmer. I'm so excited to be here at Essence Fest for the first time. Yes, y'all look so good! Now, I'm also excited to announce August 6th, I have this new movie coming out on Amazon called "The Pickup." It is a heist movie starring Eddie Murphy, Pete Davidson, and myself. Guys, in this movie, I'm a villain. Could you believe it? How could this face ever be a villain? There's no way! But before we get into this conversation that I'm so excited to have with Candy, y'all know we love us some Candy Burrs, honey. Before we get into the conversation, they told me they have a clip. They want us to play from the movie, from "The Pickup." So, I haven't seen it yet, so let's throw to this and see what they're about to show us.

• 1:08Speaker 01

  No takers on the table pancakes. They for everybody.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  No, those are robber pancakes. No thank you.

• 1:19Speaker 01

  It's been a rough day for y'all. Truck got stolen, and now you withholding yourself the joy of eating pancakes. Everybody love pancakes.

• 1:26Speaker 02

  You're a dipper too? I swear, I've never met someone else who dips like that before.

• 1:31Speaker 01

  I think...

• 1:32Speaker 02

  Otherwise, they, you know, way too soggy.

• 1:35Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 1:37Speaker 02

  That's wild, Russell. You ever dip your pancakes?

• 1:39Speaker 03

  No, I don't dip my pancakes. I like my pancakes like this. This how I make my pancakes. I like them all mushed up like this, get them all like that, get them on the plate. That's perfect. Now, I get the syrup and I put it on. I like lots and lots and lots of syrup. That's how my granddaddy used to make them. He used to call these [BLEEP] you flapjacks. Soggy [BLEEP].

• 2:00Keke Palmer?

  Oh my gosh, I cannot wait for you guys to see that movie. Working with Eddie was absolutely incredible, a moment to remember forever. August 6th, it comes out. And later on in the conversation with Candy, we're gonna play a little pick-up themed game that I can't wait to get into it with you guys. Now, without further ado, let's make sure that we give a huge round of applause for the multi-hyphenate singer, actress, uh, reality star, uh, businesswoman extraordinaire, breaking records on Broadway, Miss Candy Bell!

• 2:43Keke Palmer?

  You look absolutely amazing, but what else is new?

• 2:46Speaker 04

  Thank you. You said what?

• 2:47Keke Palmer?

  What else is new? You always look amazing.

• 2:49Speaker 04

  Well, thank you. Thanks for having me. What's up, y'all?

• 2:54Speaker 04

  Kiki, you got a lot of people out here.

• 2:56Keke Palmer?

  Girl, we got a lot of people. They came to see us, okay? I mean, now, you, we, we always come to Essence Fest. I feel like I've seen you here before, but what's been new this time? Anything happen that was a special moment for you?

• 3:08Speaker 04

  Oh, okay, I'll start with, on Friday, my girl group that I've been producing, Siren, they performed. So I was super excited for them because, you know, they're three young women with a dream. You know how that feel when you first start in the industry?

• 3:21Keke Palmer?

  Girl.

• 3:22Speaker 04

  And to be on the big stage of Essence means a lot. You know, so I was super excited about that. And tonight, my group Escape, we're performing with Jermaine Dupri. Um, we're doing our tribute to Quincy Jones, so it's not just us, it's, you know, other artists, but I don't wanna spoil the surprise.

• 3:40Keke Palmer?

  Oh my gosh, well, I mean, when it comes to your girl group, how many times do you find yourself being triggered back to your early days with Escape and helping them on their journey to know how to, you know, keep on that straight and narrow?

• 3:51Speaker 04

  Well, I'm always reminded of like how my group started. You know, you see a girl group, you know, you think about all the things that, you know, our disagreement.

• 4:01Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 4:02Speaker 04

  You know, just coming that first time, we hear our song on the radio. All of those moments that they're experiencing.

• 4:08Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 4:09Speaker 04

  Um, you know, it reminds me of when my group first started. So, it's definitely making me think about throwbacks from the past.

• 4:17Keke Palmer?

  Well, they're definitely blessed to have somebody like you to be able to guide them through, you know, a veteran. Now, speaking of all of that, you've been in the game since you were a teenager and you're still reinventing. I mean, I've seen and been a part of watching every era of you and it's been a pleasure. I mean, when you wake up in the morning, how you decide which bag you're about to get into?

• 4:36Speaker 04

  Now, I know you ain't saying that, Kiki, because I feel like we are alike in a lot of ways.

• 4:42Keke Palmer?

  Girl, we are a lot alike. Me and you gonna get to the bag and have fun doing it.

• 4:46Speaker 04

  Yes, have fun. We don't mind, you know, like, I feel like some people, when they put theirselves in, oh, I'm an artist, then they never really think about, you know, they think they're too big for certain things.

• 4:58Keke Palmer?

  Yes.

• 4:59Speaker 04

  But I think, you know, I see a similar in you. It's like, we don't mind trying new things, we don't mind, you know, collaborating with people, you know, it doesn't matter, you know, if somebody has to always be A-list or anything, we, we just like trying things, we like being creative.

• 5:14Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 5:15Speaker 04

  And I don't want to stay in one lane. I like, you know, I like being behind the scenes, just like I like, you know, being the one on stage at times. So, I try to do both, you know, as long as I can do both, I'm gonna do both.

• 5:28Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, because it gets, it does get boring too, when you feel forced to do one thing. As a creative, you know, I love different mediums because I want to express different facets of myself. The person that I am when I'm having a conversation with you ain't gonna be the same vibe when I'm playing a dramatic character in a movie.

• 5:41Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 5:42Keke Palmer?

  So, you gotta keep it exciting for yourself.

• 5:43Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 5:44Keke Palmer?

  Um, but also you make it a family thing too, because Riley's been getting out there and I love seeing her, from the fashion, her on the show, she was getting that man, that boy together, I said, get him, Riley! You know, but you're an artist, you're a mom, you're a businesswoman, so there's a lot of juggling going on.

• 6:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:00Keke Palmer?

  And I, I mean, this is advice for me too, because you know, my little boy's two.

• 6:03Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 6:04Keke Palmer?

  You know, how is that, was it for you and is it for you now, when juggling that being that mom and then also letting your baby get into the business?

• 6:12Speaker 04

  You know, I feel like it's kind of important to put our kids to work early.

• 6:20Speaker 04

  Like, you know, even with Ace, you know, I've already, he's already been acting, he's been on the TV show before. You know, he's done things, you know what I mean? At an early age, and I just feel like if they are all so busy and doing things, then they respect what we do.

• 6:38Keke Palmer?

  Yes.

• 6:39Speaker 04

  So, and then, you know, they don't have to grow up to do what we're doing, but at least we've already put them in a position to where, you know, they've been able to establish themselves. Because that's the thing, you want to set your kids up for greatness, right?

• 6:55Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 6:55Speaker 04

  And then we also, you know, have that mom guilt, right?

• 6:59Keke Palmer?

  Girl.

• 7:00Speaker 04

  But when you can bring your kids to work with you and put them to work, then it's all good.

• 7:03Keke Palmer?

  Okay, that's what I blew up you on that stage talking about.

• 7:07Keke Palmer?

  I love her. I feel like I've adapted that way, like.

• 7:11Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 7:11Keke Palmer?

  It's so cute.

• 7:12Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 7:13Keke Palmer?

  Now, we're talking about TV shows. I want to know from you, and maybe watching yourself or just hearing other people watching you or seeing the headlines, what do people think about you that couldn't be further from the truth?

• 7:26Speaker 04

  It's a lot.

• 7:36Keke Palmer?

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• 8:20Keke Palmer?

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• 9:05Keke Palmer?

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• 9:50Keke Palmer?

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• 10:13Speaker 04

  There's a lot that people think about me.

• 10:14Keke Palmer?

  Do you even feel like people think you're introverted? Extroverted?

• 10:19Speaker 04

  Um, oh, you mean something that's kind of simple and surface-to-miles?

• 10:22Keke Palmer?

  Exactly.

• 10:23Speaker 04

  Okay, we're gonna go there. You know, obviously, okay, so, you know, I'm always doing things on social, but I really don't like to talk a lot. I saw somebody post a post that said, "You can talk to me because I'm cool, but I ain't that friendly. I don't want to keep talking." Like, let's be like, "Hey, girl, give me a hug." You know, let's do, you know.

• 10:43Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 10:44Speaker 04

  But they keep along with, I'm not.

• 10:46Keke Palmer?

  Because what are we saying for real? You know, after a while, that small talk, it becomes draining, because what can I do?

• 10:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I don't talk, I'm not like a big talker. Like, I have to be in a mood to want to talk. And I know people probably be shocked, because, you know, we do all this.

• 11:02Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 11:03Speaker 04

  But, you know, that's not, you know, I'm very laid back. Like, I'm very, on a, on a normal basis, I'm very laid back and chill. And if I go to like, somewhere where I don't really know a lot of people, I always feel weird and awkward.

• 11:18Keke Palmer?

  I do think that's a misconception that people have by entertainers, is that when we get into a room full of a bunch of people, we somehow don't feel strange or awkward. Like, I always feel a little bit of a weirdness, but that's why I end up being extra. Because that's how I deal with, I'm like, "Oh, stop."

• 11:33Keke Palmer?

  You know? Because that's how I'm making myself feel better about, you know, the, the white space in between saying, "Do I say hi, do I not say hi?"

• 11:41Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, I try to say hi first.

• 11:44Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 11:45Speaker 04

  Because then that throws off the awkwardness of, "Did we meet before?" You know what I mean? Because if I speak to everybody first, then they'd be like, "Oh, yeah, she remembered me." But if I didn't remember them, and they come to me and be like, "Hey, you remember me?" And I'd be like, "Uh..."

• 11:58Keke Palmer?

  Because how, do I lie now, or do I tell you no?

• 12:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, and it always awkward. But no, the funny thing, Riley, now she does it. But it's a training thing, right? When you know you are going somewhere for work, or you know you got to meet a lot of people, where you have to be in good spirits. Because if I'm not smiling, they gonna say I'm the B-word, right? So I got a cheese. And then, and then, you know, my voice changes. It's like, "Hey, what's up?" Like you just said, right? Riley always says, "Oh, you got your TV voice on." "We must about to do something." She be like...

• 12:36Keke Palmer?

  She queued in.

• 12:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, she like, "You have to put your TV voice on." Because, you know, I really talk like this, I mumble aloud, and I'm like, you know, you can't understand what I'm saying, because I talk through my teeth, and that's just how I talk on a regular basis.

• 12:47Keke Palmer?

  Come on, Atlanta.

• 12:48Speaker 04

  That's how I talk. Exactly, very ATL, you know what I'm saying? Because that's how I talk when I'm at home with my friends and my family, you know what I mean?

• 12:55Keke Palmer?

  Yes.

• 12:56Speaker 04

  That's how I'm talking. But when I'm with y'all, I try to talk clearly, and I bring my tone up.

• 13:04Keke Palmer?

  What do you think is the hardest part? Because I think you've made it seem so natural and relaxed, living your life on reality TV and in public. But what is, what would you say is the most difficult aspect of being real, but also protecting your privacy? You know what I mean?

• 13:19Speaker 04

  Do we really have any privacy? It's really hard to, um, I don't know, I know, I think it's kind of sad. I think it's, uh, a lot of people who are in the public eye, I don't think all of us have managed how to have a private life. Like, I feel like Beyonce has done it the best. She's very private, she doesn't put a lot out there. She only, you, we only get where she wants us to get, right? But a lot of us haven't mastered that skill. So me, I'm kind of like an open book and you ask me stuff, I just say, I go home, my mom be like, "Now, why did you have to say that? Why did you do that? You have to tell everybody everything." That's what my mom be saying to me and I just be like, "Well, shoot, if I say it myself, then I don't have to worry about nobody's

• 14:04Speaker 04

  trying to put me on blast." I put myself on blast.

• 14:07Keke Palmer?

  I do love spilling my own tea.

• 14:09Speaker 04

  Yes, I will spill my own tea in a minute.

• 14:11Keke Palmer?

  Stop playing with me.

• 14:11Speaker 04

  Now, what I don't like is, I pretty much have, you know, been an open book about anything or everything, right?

• 14:19Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 14:19Speaker 04

  I hate when people make up something about me. I'm like, "Now, I already had told you." And why you think, now, why you go add stuff?

• 14:27Keke Palmer?

  Because you know people love to put a little extra, what they say, "Tens on, twos on, tens on twos."

• 14:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're gonna put the two on the ten. That's what we say.

• 14:35Keke Palmer?

  Now, speaking of Mama Joyce, we love her and we love this new show that you have on Amazon Live, Generation Face Off, featuring you, Mama, and?

• 14:44Speaker 04

  Riley.

• 14:45Keke Palmer?

  Riley.

• 14:45Speaker 04

  It's really cool because my mom, Riley and I, you know, it's three different generations, right?

• 14:50Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, because she's Gen Z.

• 14:52Speaker 04

  And my mama is, uh, baby boomers.

• 14:54Keke Palmer?

  Wow.

• 14:55Speaker 04

  And I'm Gen X.

• 14:56Keke Palmer?

  Wow.

• 14:57Speaker 04

  You know, so our opinions are so different. And my mom and Riley can be like, "Oh, I'm a water sometimes." The shade is so serious. It's funny, I'll be like, "Ooh, y'all gonna cut that out?" No, but it's funny, like, it's funny shade, you know what I mean? Funny shade, but, um, you know, my mom is a shade queen, but Riley can be too. And it's like, "Lord, y'all, okay, come on."

• 15:23Keke Palmer?

  What is one of the topics that maybe you didn't expect that turned into a whole debate between you guys?

• 15:29Speaker 04

  Well, I'm trying to remember because realistically, everything ends up being a debate sometimes. Especially like when my mom don't win. Like because we will talk about different items and you know, because we doing Amazon Live and she'll say her opinion or things she like from her generation that she pulled. And Riley will pull something and I'll pull something from my generation. If Riley don't like nothing from my mama generation, my mama always be like, "That, you just did that." Because you know, it always turns into that.

• 16:02Keke Palmer?

  It always turns personal. When it's like, "I just don't like that."

• 16:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:07Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I want to get into a little bit into music. I know we talked about obviously Escape in the 90s. But one thing that's crazy, and I just found out recently, you getting some more checks because of Ed Sheeran's sampling.

• 16:20Speaker 04

  Oh, well, yeah. So I have a lot of songs like that that are now my songs that I'm a writer on because they sampled me. So I guess Ed Sheeran is a Shape of You song. It is the most streamed song in history now. And that's a blessing because he sampled No Scrubs. So I'm a writer on that song too. So what that means is...

• 16:48Keke Palmer?

  Let's get into that.

• 16:49Speaker 04

  I get, you know, me and Tiny, we both are writers of No Scrubs and we both get a check over Ed Sheeran's song. And it's the most played song in history. So thank you, God. But we also, you know, like Dolce's song, when she first dropped her first single, which...

• 17:06Keke Palmer?

  I know what you're talking about, the singing one.

• 17:08Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 17:09Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my gosh, guys.

• 17:09Speaker 04

  That was also one that Tiny and I also have royalties of. But I have multiple songs like that. One of, that people have sampled different songs that I've written, which gives me new copyrights, basically. Yeah, it makes...

• 17:23Keke Palmer?

  I need to know when you, and I know the answer is no way. We didn't know. But going back to y'all in the studio writing those songs, I mean, just what, what type of space were you even in to create such, you know, reusable IP? Because that's what it is, right? It's timeless intellectual property.

• 17:41Speaker 04

  Actually, we was going through it at the time.

• 17:50Keke Palmer?

  When I think about Church's Chicken, I'm taken back to those nights we'd try to figure out what we were picking up for dinner, and my dad would say, "Church's." I'm not gonna lie, we had a little tradition of our own. We'd always snag one of those fresh baked honey butter biscuits for the car ride home. Sorry, family, quality control purposes, you know. That's what makes Church's so special. It's fresh, hand-breaded chicken seasoned just right. I still do the jalapeno squeeze, just like my dad taught me. It's part of the experience now. And those honey butter biscuits I mentioned, baked from scratch, daily. And yes, they're worth the potential family drama. What I love is how Church's always comes through with portions that can feed everybody. Even after our little quality control moments, everything's made with real care, and you can taste it.

• 18:34Keke Palmer?

  At the end of the day, Church's Chicken is more than just a meal. It's family, it's tradition, it's home. Find your next meal and deal at churches.com.

• 18:46Speaker 04

  Our group Escape was falling apart. This was after our second album. And I had told Tiny, I was like, "Hey, man, we gotta figure out what we gonna do because at the time, one of our group members was gonna go solo." Now, this is back in the day, though. This is like 99, 98. And some of y'all wasn't even born yet.

• 19:03Keke Palmer?

  I was like four or five.

• 19:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, y'all was little. But, you know, for me, you know, I was like 19.

• 19:09Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 19:10Speaker 04

  And I had just bought a house, but my group was about to fall apart. And I'm like, "Well, where the money gonna be coming from? How I'm gonna pay my bills?" So I was like, "Tiny, we gotta figure this out. We need to try to... Maybe we could come up with a project with just the two of us that we could do." So we started recording songs and writing songs for ourselves. "No Scrubs" was one of our own songs we did for us. It was called "Cat," Candy and Tiny, K-A-T. Anyway, um, and the song was ours. And somebody played it for L.A. Reid, and he wanted it for TLC. And after that, after him taking that, using that, he didn't take it, you know, he asked us, obviously, we gave it to them. And, um, but that gave me the opportunity to start writing for other people because I always wanted to, but I didn't know how I could, you know,

• 19:55Speaker 04

  because at the time, I'm an artist, you know, and it's kinda funny.

• 19:58Keke Palmer?

  It's another career.

• 19:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, you know. Some artists don't want other artists in the studio when they're creating.

• 20:03Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 20:03Speaker 04

  So I was like, how do I go, how do I get to write for other people? And this opened the door for me. And after that, I just stayed in my bag for a while. I was just writing with different producers.

• 20:13Keke Palmer?

  And you talk about bills. I mean, you did bills.

• 20:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, I wrote with Shakespeare. So he and I, we went to Texas with Destiny's Child. And they was working on their second album. And we ended up doing, um, five songs on that album. And let me just say this, shout out to Tina Knowles. I bought her book and, um, somebody told me and they was like, you know, you're in her book. And I was like, what you mean I'm in her book? And but recently, before I got my copy,

• 20:45Speaker 04

  they played me, they had the, you know, the

• 20:47Keke Palmer?

  The audio book.

• 20:48Speaker 04

  Audio book. And she was reading it. She talked about how we were working in the studio and how we helped Beyonce become a producer. Like she was in there producing. And, and it was just a, it had me teary eyed, y'all. I was in there about to cry, listening to her, talking about that experience because it was a great experience for me. And to hear her put in her book, child, I was over there being a big baby crying. I was like, wow.

• 21:16Keke Palmer?

  But it's another show of paying it forward with your history of being in a girl group and then being a part of that moment with Destiny's Child. And then, obviously, like you said, with Siren, which you just got, you guys just dropped The Softest.

• 21:27Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 21:27Keke Palmer?

  Working a classic of an escape song.

• 21:29Speaker 04

  Yes, yes. They, um, it's, they sampled it and made their own version. It's super dope. Siren, like I always, you know, I'll try to pay it forward, right?

• 21:42Keke Palmer?

  Yes.

• 21:43Speaker 04

  And everything I do and working with other people. And I really feel like it's time for girl groups to come back.

• 21:49Keke Palmer?

  No, for sure.

• 21:50Speaker 04

  And I, these girls can really sing. So they just dropped their, on their EP. Please, y'all check it out. It's Siren spelled P S I like Omega Psi, you know, like the sci-fi. But anyway, um, Siren.

• 22:04Keke Palmer?

  Yep.

• 22:05Speaker 04

  Their EP is called In The Key Of Us. So please add it to your playlist. I'm telling you, will not regret it. They can sing their butts off in this jamming.

• 22:13Keke Palmer?

  Congratulations to Siren. Congratulations to you on that endeavor. Now, I do want to go back to Real Housewives of Atlanta. I mean.

• 22:21Speaker 04

  No, I'm just kidding.

• 22:21Keke Palmer?

  I literally, I mean, you have some of the most iconic moments on the show. How did you survive so long without letting a drama break you? Because, I mean, a lot of people don't make it all the, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people like, "I gotta go," or.

• 22:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:34Keke Palmer?

  You know what I'm saying?

• 22:35Speaker 04

  I was there for 14 seasons.

• 22:37Keke Palmer?

  That's a long time.

• 22:39Speaker 04

  14 seasons straight.

• 22:40Keke Palmer?

  I mean, that's a long time.

• 22:42Speaker 04

  Now, no breaks. Now, I don't know if anybody else has done that many seasons with any breaks, but at the time I left, I was the longest-running housewife of any franchise.

• 22:54Speaker 04

  Now, I know other, you know, we have a couple other housewives that have done that, but they, you know, either taken a break or something like that, yeah. But what I will say was, what I will say is that it was tough, but I wouldn't change it. You know what I mean? I wouldn't change it because I, it did, I can go back and watch so many moments in my life. I can see my kids grow up. When I first started, Riley was only six years old. She's 22, about to be 23 now, y'all.

• 23:23Keke Palmer?

  I remember seeing her on there.

• 23:24Speaker 04

  And now she's on the Next Gen on Bravo right now, on her own show. You know what I mean?

• 23:31Keke Palmer?

  And she's handling her own. It's really cool to see.

• 23:33Speaker 04

  Thank you. So, being on there, you know, I dealt with a lot of things that, you know, could felt like it was about to break me at times, but, you know, you just stay on there and you get past it. You show people different sides of you, you know? And you're gonna have people that hate you, and you're gonna have people that love you, and you just gotta roll. You just gotta keep pushing.

• 23:52Keke Palmer?

  What were some of the good moments that made you decide to stay?

• 23:56Speaker 04

  I met my husband on that show. Yeah. If I wasn't on that show, I wouldn't have met Todd. And think what I would have missed out on. Now, I got Ace, I got Blaze, you know?

• 24:07Keke Palmer?

  And you went through, I mean, that was really awesome to also see how you guys always saw the vision for yourself, even when sometimes you would be taking stuff from Ms. Joyce up on the show. I really loved seeing that from you.

• 24:19Speaker 04

  My mama, she really should have had her own Peach. You know, I'm just saying. But even still, like, you know, being able to see moments of my family. You know, we had our own spinoff, Candy and the Gang.

• 24:30Keke Palmer?

  Yep, I watched that too.

• 24:31Speaker 04

  You know, and my wedding show, and so many other spinoffs as well. But. It was, you know, to have that history on film, that my family, we can always go back and see it.

• 24:43Keke Palmer?

  It's beautiful. It's like having your own home, but perfectly made VHS of family memories.

• 24:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:49Keke Palmer?

  I mean, obviously, you said you never gonna speak to Phaedra again.

• 24:52Speaker 04

  No.

• 24:53Keke Palmer?

  No shade, no tea, don't wanna push too hard, but do you think there's any way that she could get you to look her way again? Has she ever tried to reach out?

• 25:01Speaker 04

  No.

• 25:03Keke Palmer?

  She never tried to reach out?

• 25:05Speaker 04

  No.

• 25:06Keke Palmer?

  Cause she know.

• 25:07Speaker 04

  No, it's, um, yeah, there's no reason for us to communicate it. We, we've been in the same room before, but there's no reason for us to communicate.

• 25:15Keke Palmer?

  You know, you kind of just avoid, or not even avoid, but just, you know, do your own thing.

• 25:19Speaker 04

  We just don't interact. We just don't speak. I mean, I'm not disrespectful. I don't come in cussing nobody out and that. We just, you stay your way, I stay my way, you know, I don't, I don't feel the need to fake it for the world in that situation. I feel like people, I see people online trying to change what happened. Obviously, y'all did not watch the show. Y'all did not really pay attention to what happened.

• 25:40Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 25:40Speaker 04

  And I do not, I do not care to re-explain it. I do not care to bring it up no more. If y'all, you know, if people feel how they feel, I feel, I feel, I ain't changing, so.

• 25:49Keke Palmer?

  And being on the show, were there ever times where the producers tried to, oh, let's bring it back, or let's try to go? So they knew to respect it too?

• 25:57Speaker 04

  No, not at all. Not, not, no.

• 26:00Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  No.

• 26:02Keke Palmer?

  Now, you were, she said, "Hell no, y'all." Did y'all hear that?

• 26:06Speaker 04

  No, it's like, no, it's like, I mean, I don't really feel the need to.

• 26:09Keke Palmer?

  You know, the producers of these shows, sometimes, like, I don't think people understand, it could be a lot, what, you know, you guys are juggling. Not only are you juggling the relationships on the show, but you're juggling the relationships that people are trying to have with the producers to stay on the show. And so it becomes a lot of mess.

• 26:23Speaker 04

  Well, at the time, what was said was supposedly had been blamed on a producer.

• 26:28Keke Palmer?

  Right.

• 26:28Speaker 04

  And at the time, that producer said, "Absolutely not." They did not say that, and that was not true, and it was a whole thing. So, for it to come back now, people still be trying to say it was the producer that said that. It's not true, and I don't know why y'all be trying to believe that.

• 26:45Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:46Speaker 04

  We can move past.

• 26:47Keke Palmer?

  I mean, you were there. You were there, so I believe you.

• 26:50Speaker 04

  You were there.

• 26:51Keke Palmer?

  You were also really vocal about Kenya Moore, like, supporting her, and, you know, how they were disrespecting her in the promos, and, you know.

• 26:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, here's my thing. Everybody was like, "Oh, you know, why would you say..." Here's my thing. That's my girl. And I think people don't understand friendship. Y'all don't understand that my friend could be wrong, or do something that's not tactful, or whatever, but I can still have a conversation with her separately and not have to drag her publicly about something that she did when, you know, whatever. So, at the end of the day,

• 27:23Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 27:24Speaker 04

  I do feel like, and after it's played out, there was wrong, it was wrong on both sides. And I just kind of felt like, you know, you can't take one off and not take the other off. I felt like that was wrong. You know what I mean? And I, you know, y'all could disagree with me, but that's how I felt. And I'm definitely gonna support my girl and say, they didn't even give her the opportunity to come back and apologize. Everybody else got that chance to come back and apologize. You know?

• 27:52Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 27:53Speaker 04

  So, you know, why she don't get that chance?

• 27:56Keke Palmer?

  Now she gone with the wind. Fabulous.

• 27:59Speaker 04

  Well, she's still fabulous.

• 28:01Keke Palmer?

  Now, why would I go that, why would I go back to that old school?

• 28:03Speaker 04

  I feel like if other people win, get the blowback on there, huzz need to blowback on there too.

• 28:09Keke Palmer?

  Kenya will always be that girl. Y'all remember "Twice"?

• 28:14Keke Palmer?

  Y'all don't remember "Twice"? Now, why?

• 28:15Speaker 04

  I remember it.

• 28:17Keke Palmer?

  I remember "Twice". Too young to be watching it. Let me get that.

• 28:20Speaker 04

  Too young, baby. Yeah, it was good, child.

• 28:22Keke Palmer?

  Um, you have a lot of businesses. I just want to give this moment right now. What are the other endeavors? We were just talking before you came out about Broadway, and you guys breaking records. I have to keep saying that, because this was the first time I think you even produced something on Broadway?

• 28:38Speaker 04

  That was, no, that was my fourth production on Broadway, Othello. So my first one was Thoughts of a Colored Man. They showed that on the show on Housewives.

• 28:47Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, they actually, actually do remember that. Yes, yes, yes.

• 28:48Speaker 04

  And the second one was The Piano Lesson.

• 28:50Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 28:52Speaker 04

  It was amazing. And we did great with the piano lesson. And we actually got a Tony nomination for The Piano Lesson. And then the third one was The Wiz. I hope a lot of y'all got a chance to see it. It was amazing.

• 29:06Keke Palmer?

  Wow.

• 29:06Speaker 04

  And then it was Othello. So that was my fourth one, and we broke history. We made history with Othello, and I'm so thankful and grateful that, um, to be a part of it. I'm so thankful for, you know, Denzel Washington and Jake Gyllenhaal for being the stars of that show. But I want to say I'm especially thankful for Brian Morland, who is my mentor and my friend. Um, we produced all of our shows together.

• 29:31Keke Palmer?

  Wow.

• 29:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, but he's the lead producer. And he constantly kind of teaches me, you know, okay, this is what we need to do. This is how we do it. And, um, he's been a great mentor.

• 29:43Keke Palmer?

  Just for those of you guys don't know, like Broadway, you know, theaters is, it's very difficult to get into. You know what I mean? Especially when you think about a person of color. So it's really incredible that you've been doing it and keep doing it and breaking these records. Because it shows, you know, that's, we could get into these different spaces, so.

• 29:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's not necessarily easy.

• 30:00Keke Palmer?

  No.

• 30:01Speaker 04

  Um, to really, um.

• 30:03Keke Palmer?

  Not at all.

• 30:03Speaker 04

  Get in that world.

• 30:05Keke Palmer?

  No.

• 30:05Speaker 04

  So, yeah, I'm trying to continue, continue being in that world and make space. You know, for more of us, you know, to bring the culture, honey.

• 30:13Keke Palmer?

  That's right. That's right. Well, you know, you know when to call your girl.

• 30:19Keke Palmer?

  On the next one.

• 30:19Speaker 04

  Oh, you know, you know, we definitely gonna have to call you now, because you know, y'all heard her.

• 30:26Keke Palmer?

  Obviously, you also do amazing products. I mean, just what is coming next that we can expect? Um, you know, from you. I remember I just seen something the other night on Tubi. One of these movies you did, you was gangster scamming my girl, Drew.

• 30:38Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 30:40Keke Palmer?

  I love that movie.

• 30:41Speaker 04

  My husband and I, we produce movies now. And we produced, that was one of our movies, The Past. It's on Tubi right now. Um, but then we also have a new one coming called Don't Bring Your Man to Atlanta. It is good, good, good, good, good, good. It's coming soon. My husband and I produced that. Um, you can actually hit the link in Todd's bio right now, or he-

• 31:03Keke Palmer?

  That sound like one of them Zayn novels. Don't bring your man to Atlanta.

• 31:07Speaker 04

  Don't bring your man to Atlanta. It's real good. I can't wait for the world to see it. But it's starring Shamia in that one.

• 31:12Keke Palmer?

  Ah, shout out Shamia. I just seen her at the hotel the other day, looking good. She always looks so cute.

• 31:17Speaker 04

  Yes, she's doing her thing. Yes, um, so I'm excited about that one coming out next. And, uh, yeah, produce some more films. Um, I do have products, and you can get them on Amazon.

• 31:28Keke Palmer?

  I love it. We gotta shout that out.

• 31:29Speaker 04

  Yes, um, you know, Candy Coated Cosmetics, and then we have some other products on Amazon.

• 31:34Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, well, we all grown. I mean, most of us. Y'all know what she talking about.

• 31:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:39Keke Palmer?

  Um, but I want to shout all that out because you're so incredible. Before I let you go, though, we gotta play a fun game. I love playing games with my guests, and this one's kinda like interactive with, with y'all, honestly, okay? So, it's gonna be called Pick Up or Put Down, where we test the smoothest, corniest, and downright reckless pick-up line. So, it's gonna be me and Candy judging, and y'all need to get loud, okay? So, we're gonna say a pick-up line, and then y'all let us know, screaming yes, or screaming no, if it's one that you would not pick up, okay? Pick up or put down. Does that follow? Y'all get what I'm saying? Okay, here we go. Okay, I've highlighted them. So, once I say one, then I'ma hand it to you to say, Candy, okay?

• 32:21Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 32:23Keke Palmer?

  All right, this is me. I'm ready, and I'm about to put on my voice. I'm really about to give it to y'all, so don't get all excited.

• 32:31Speaker 04

  Oh, here we go. What's the question?

• 32:33Keke Palmer?

  Ay, mama, on a scale of one to 10, you a nine, and I'm the one you need.

• 32:42Speaker 04

  Wait, what?

• 32:47Keke Palmer?

  Okay, they said no. The next highlighted one is you.

• 32:52Speaker 04

  Okay, here's one. Have you been sitting on sugar? Cause damn, that ass looks sweet.

• 33:03Keke Palmer?

  No, I-

• 33:04Speaker 04

  Now, my god, that-

• 33:05Keke Palmer?

  She just said a real sexy. I gotta be sexier.

• 33:08Speaker 04

  That's how you gotta say it.

• 33:09Keke Palmer?

  I gotta be sexier. She's out sexy.

• 33:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm sweet, so I'd be like, oh, you talking about me?

• 33:16Keke Palmer?

  Okay, here we go, um.

• 33:23Keke Palmer?

  Y'all don't make me laugh. Okay. Did you fall out of a vending machine? Cause you a snack.

• 33:35Speaker 04

  You're losing, Kiki. You're losing.

• 33:38Keke Palmer?

  Mine is not good. I'm gonna redeem myself. Just y'all wait.

• 33:43Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 33:44Keke Palmer?

  She said okay. She already made it.

• 33:46Speaker 04

  You gotta give it the vibes. Here we go. If I had four quarters to give to the four prettiest women in the world, you'd have a dollar.

• 33:59Keke Palmer?

  It's the way... She's sexy. She's doing it. She's doing it to you guys. She's seducing all of you in front of my eyes. Okay, okay. Here it come.

• 34:08Speaker 04

  Kiki, I know you got more game than that, man. Come on.

• 34:11Keke Palmer?

  My game is goofy.

• 34:14Keke Palmer?

  I laugh them out their drawers, no.

• 34:17Speaker 04

  Come on, Kiki.

• 34:18Keke Palmer?

  Holla at your girl, no.

• 34:23Keke Palmer?

  Okay. This is me redeeming myself. Here we go.

• 34:28Keke Palmer?

  I'ma do it in my voice. I'ma do it in my voice. I'm on a date right now.

• 34:34Keke Palmer?

  Let me buy you center. I'll be the dessert.

• 34:39Speaker 04

  Ah, they like that. They like that. They like that one.

• 34:43Keke Palmer?

  Okay, last ones on Candy. You guys are fun.

• 34:48Speaker 04

  Let's see.

• 34:53Speaker 04

  Honey, just by seeing you from behind, I know you're a well-rounded person.

• 35:05Keke Palmer?

  All right, y'all. Please give a warm round of applause for the amazing Candy Burris.

• 35:11Speaker 04

  Hey, thank you.

• 35:29Keke Palmer?

  Baby This Is Keke Palmer is hosted and executive produced by me, Keke Palmer. Lucas Segal is our post-producer. Our producers are Lauren Hampton and Molly Nester. Hillary Esti McLaughlin is our executive producer. Production services provided by Evolution Media. Our original theme song was written and performed by me, Keke Palmer. For Team Kiki, my producer is Sharon Palmer. For Wondery, our managing producer is Olivia Fonte. Senior managing producer is Nick Ryan. And our executive producers are Emily Feldbrake, Erin O'Flaherty, and Marshall Louie.