Todd Chrisley Was an Escort?!

Todd and Julie Chrisley are in the house, baby! And let me tell y'all, NOTHING was off limits in this conversation! From Todd's wild past to life behind bars and some MAJOR revelations about Savannah's love life and pregnancy, these two came ready to SPILL! With Savannah's pregnancy making headlines, Todd and Julie are opening up about their daughter's exciting new chapter, her relationship with a man 20 years her senior, and their emotional reactions to becoming grandparents again. Todd reveals how he REALLY felt about Savannah's relationship in the beginning, the difficult choice he faced as a father, and the unforgettable moment he found out she was pregnant. But honey, that's just the beginning! Todd takes us all the way back to his younger days, revealing his secret life as an escort, the married woman who broke his heart, and the messy road that eventually led him to Julie. The two also get candid about their 30-year marriage, the challenges they've faced, and what really happened during their time in prison. We're talking family drama, unexpected confessions, prison stories, plastic surgery, and a whole lot of laughs. Todd had me absolutely DYING with some of these stories! This is a side of Todd and Julie Chrisley you haven't seen before, and trust me, you're gonna want to hear EVERY minute of it! Watch Full Episodes & More: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Dumbblondepod

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• 2:08Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on? What's up, you sexy motherfuckers?

• 2:13Bunnie XO?

  Welcome to another episode of Don Blonde. Today I'm sitting with, today I'm sitting with a gangster, Todd Chrisley, and the most beautiful woman I've ever laid eyes on, Ms. Julie Chrisley.

• 2:24Speaker 03

  You're so sweet.

• 2:25Bunnie XO?

  The Chrisleys are here, baby.

• 2:27Speaker 03

  Thank you for having us. I am so excited. I have watched your podcast. I have listened. I have read your book. I mean, yeah, I have to admit, I was really excited about this one.

• 2:39Bunnie XO?

  I appreciate you so much. Knowing that you read my book too, like that really means so much to me because you know, writing a book, you pour your heart into it and all you want is for people to just consume it. So knowing that you read it.

• 2:50Speaker 04

  And Julie read the book a while before any of this right here ever came out.

• 2:56Bunnie XO?

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 2:57Speaker 04

  And I remember walking into our bathroom, she was in the bathtub with reading your book. Now, I don't know what if it was a personal relationship between your book and her or what she was doing. There was a lot of movement in the water.

• 3:08Bunnie XO?

  Oh, well, there are some parts in there that'll make the beaver, the beaver throb.

• 3:14Speaker 04

  But, um, you know, I remember her saying, you brought the book to bed one night, you was reading it. And I said, what is this you're reading? And she tells me, and I said, she said, you've got to read. I said, yeah, I'm probably not going to do that. Just because I don't read books like that. And not like that, but you know, I just don't, I don't get into people's business just by a book.

• 3:33Bunnie XO?

  Well, because people are in your business. So you know how that goes.

• 3:36Speaker 04

  So I kind of feel like that if you put it out there, then it's okay. But I feel like that it's an intrusion of that almost it's kind of voyeuristic that if I'm looking into someone's life. And I know how we have craved privacy for so long.

• 3:50Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 3:51Speaker 04

  And I, and I know that some people, when they hear, well, oh, you crave privacy for so long, but yet you're doing another podcast or you're creating another show or whatever.

• 3:58Bunnie XO?

  It's different. It's a controlled narrative.

• 4:00Speaker 04

  Yes, exactly. I love that. It's a controlled narrative. And plus, we get to control who's in our circle and it's in our home and that we feel safe with. And I just try not to, I have had enough happen in my personal life to not find comfort in someone else's misery or their misfortune.

• 4:23Speaker 03

  Right. And I don't think I took it like that at all because to me, it was such a personal account for you, you know? I mean, going back to your childhood and your biological mother and, and your dad. And so I think it just like, you see you and you see you, you know, and your life that you have now and, and on the podcast, and it just gave it such a different depth to it for me, you know, because it, it like, okay, that makes sense now, you know, like, I mean, it really did.

• 4:54Bunnie XO?

  Now I know why she turned into a hooker.

• 4:57Speaker 04

  Well, listen, I've been hoeing since I was 14.

• 4:59Bunnie XO?

  Oh, me too, baby.

• 5:01Speaker 04

  You just ran with it to get more money than I did.

• 5:02Bunnie XO?

  We're like kindred souls over here.

• 5:04Speaker 04

  People are not paying for dick. People are not paying for dick. So you did better with yours.

• 5:08Bunnie XO?

  So what form of hoeing were we doing, Todd?

• 5:11Speaker 04

  Well, listen, I was an escort when I was 18.

• 5:13Bunnie XO?

  Were you?

• 5:14Speaker 04

  Uh huh. In Los Angeles. I left South Carolina when I was 17.

• 5:18Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 5:19Speaker 04

  It's in my book. It's coming out, chapter eight. And it didn't start out like that I was being an escort.

• 5:25Bunnie XO?

  Were you like male, were you like Deuce Bigelow, male gigolo?

• 5:28Speaker 04

  Kinda. More like Richard Gere in American Gigolo.

• 5:33Bunnie XO?

  Oh, nice.

• 5:34Speaker 04

  But you know, I met this woman, I worked at the Cheesecake Factory, the original Cheesecake Factory as a waiter.

• 5:39Bunnie XO?

  Mmm, delicious.

• 5:40Speaker 04

  And I was there, it was there in Marina Del Rey.

• 5:44Bunnie XO?

  Oh, you were making really good money if you were in Marina Del Rey.

• 5:48Speaker 04

  Coming from where I came from, I was a small little town in South Carolina. I had never seen $800 handed to me at one time in my life.

• 5:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 5:57Speaker 04

  And so I remember waiting the tables this night and there was like six or seven women, good-looking women, and which is gonna show you why I don't, is probably why I have less issue with you and your babysitting service that you're running right now.

• 6:13Bunnie XO?

  Todd.

• 6:14Speaker 04

  But, because this is the hypocrisy of it. This is the hypocrisy. And why I don't say much about it is that I was 18.

• 6:22Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 6:22Speaker 04

  And I ended up waiting on this table of women and I got an $800 tip.

• 6:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 6:29Speaker 04

  Now, this was 1986.

• 6:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 6:32Speaker 04

  And when I looked at him like, oh my God. Cause here I was coming from this little small Hooterville town in the, in the, in the rural area of South Carolina, thinking, I have made it.

• 6:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 6:44Speaker 04

  I have fucking made it. I've got 800 bucks. And so I left that restaurant that night and when I was walking out, there was this limousine that was backed up against the wall there at Admiral Way. And the guy was standing there propped up like this and I'm thinking, shoot.

• 6:58Speaker 03

  That was like pretty woman.

• 6:59Speaker 04

  But I was thinking of this.

• 7:01Bunnie XO?

  They came to collect.

• 7:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was thinking of it more along the lines of like, shit, this is kind of like an episode in Dynasty.

• 7:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 7:08Speaker 04

  So I was walking, because I didn't know he was, what he was doing. And so he, I was walking this way, he was coming this way. And he walked up to me, goes, uh, good evening. And I said, good evening. And he said, um, my lady would like to speak with you. He said, you were their server this evening. And I said, okay. Now me being who I was and what I came from and parents that demanded, yes ma'am, no ma'am, yes sir, no sir. Um, I said, okay. So I go over and she lets the window down and she goes, um.

• 7:37Bunnie XO?

  This is so hot. This is a hot story.

• 7:41Speaker 04

  And so she lets the window down and she says, um, great service tonight. And I said, thank you. And she said, where are you heading? And I said, I just live up here on Glencoe. And she goes, get in. She says, I'll drop you off. Well, she didn't drop me off. Let's just say that, um, it turned into a very quick, um, encounter that I'm thinking as the sun, as the sunroof was open, I'm banging this woman as we're driving through LA.

• 8:16Bunnie XO?

  That is hot.

• 8:18Speaker 04

  This is every dream I have ever had.

• 8:21Bunnie XO?

  Okay. And how old was she?

• 8:22Speaker 04

  She was 38.

• 8:24Bunnie XO?

  Wow. Okay. So that's why.

• 8:26Speaker 04

  That's why you got grace with me. Cause I can't be, here's what I'm not gonna do. I'm not gonna fault somebody else for shit I've already done and that nobody knows about.

• 8:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 8:36Speaker 04

  So, you know, I ended up started seeing her. So clearly the first ride was pretty good for her.

• 8:41Bunnie XO?

  So when you're, yes, Todd put it down. Julie, can you confirm?

• 8:46Speaker 03

  I can after 31 years. I can. Even though I'm over here blushing. I'm like, why am I blushing?

• 8:53Bunnie XO?

  Have you ever heard this story before?

• 8:55Speaker 03

  I have heard, yes. I've heard pieces of it, for sure.

• 8:58Speaker 04

  But you've read the chapter where, because I had to run it by her and say, you know, how is this gonna affect you? Cause I've been very open with my kids from years ago.

• 9:08Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 9:08Speaker 04

  And, um, so at any rate, we were sitting in Beverly, in the Polo Lounge and this individual came in with a bunch of other high-profile women and Heidi, what was her name with the?

• 9:22Bunnie XO?

  Slice.

• 9:22Speaker 04

  No. No, she wasn't in business during that time I may have gone to work for. Um, what was the woman who had the yellow diamond?

• 9:29Speaker 03

  Heidi Klum.

• 9:30Speaker 04

  Heidi Klum.

• 9:31Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 9:31Speaker 04

  It was that same day and this woman walked in and I noticed her from a distance, but shit had work done. And I wasn't about to bring it up.

• 9:39Bunnie XO?

  We all. Hello, we're gonna talk about that.

• 9:43Speaker 04

  But so at any rate, I started seeing this woman and in my 18-year-old mind, you know, she helps me get a place to live. You know, she's, she's doing things for me. And it was one of those moments to where my dad knew, my mother never did.

• 10:01Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 10:01Speaker 04

  And, because my dad would say, where are you getting all this stuff? And my dad was very to the point. He'd say, who are you fucking? That's what he said. And I said, Daddy, I'm not doing anything. I work all the time. Cause I really did work at the Cheesecake Factory. And then in the day, I worked at the original Banana Republic in Santa Monica. So I was doing two jobs. Not for long.

• 10:23Speaker 03

  I'm sure that was short-lived.

• 10:24Speaker 04

  It was.

• 10:26Bunnie XO?

  So when you say that you started seeing her, so you guys were, was it like a sugar baby, sugar mama relationship? Or were you guys like actually dating?

• 10:33Speaker 04

  In my mind, we were actually dating.

• 10:35Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 10:36Speaker 04

  Um, because I was 18.

• 10:37Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 10:37Speaker 04

  And I remember eight months into this relationship, I was watching the Academy Awards and she walks the red carpet with her husband. Oh.

• 10:50Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh.

• 10:51Speaker 04

  And I was so devastated. That's how dumb I was at eighteen. You know, I was so devastated.

• 10:56Bunnie XO?

  Julie does not give a fuck.

• 10:58Speaker 04

  No, I was so devastated because I was thinking, she's cheating on me. And because I was that young and naive.

• 11:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 11:07Speaker 04

  And so I remember seeing her that week. And you have to remember, Bunny, I had never been in a Jaguar. I had never been in a limousine. I had never seen anyone who had a phone in their car.

• 11:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 11:23Speaker 04

  Uh, none of that. And, you know, I was, my cousin, who was married to Al Alzado, um, lived there in Pacific Palisades. She had all those things. And, you know, her life was very glamorous and I wanted all of that. But I also really kind of probably caught feelings for this woman.

• 11:43Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 11:44Speaker 04

  And was embarrassed that I could not tell my mom and dad that I was sleeping with someone that was twenty years older than me because I knew daddy was gonna slap the shutout of me. And, um, so when I brought it up to her, um, she said to me, she said, I said, what is going on? Who was that man that you were with at the award show? And she said, oh, that was my husband. Just that very casual. Oh, that was my husband. And I said, your husband? Why have you never told me that? She said, that's not your business. And she then followed it up with, she said, we have a great thing going. Let's not mess it up. And I said, what do we have going here? She said, we have great sex.

• 12:27Speaker 04

  And from that moment on, I felt so ashamed. I felt so ashamed.

• 12:32Bunnie XO?

  Your little heart was hurt.

• 12:33Speaker 04

  It was, because I felt like that that's, that that's what I was.

• 12:37Bunnie XO?

  You felt used. You were a piece of man meat?

• 12:40Speaker 04

  I, I don't know that I felt used as much as I felt foolish. That here I was catching feelings for someone who that was not what she was in this.

• 12:49Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 12:50Speaker 04

  And so she and I ended up seeing each other for another month or so. I ended it, but not, you know, hell, I fell right back in the same rut because I ended up with another woman whose husband she was divorcing from, who played for the, um, Denver Broncos.

• 13:06Bunnie XO?

  Oh my goodness.

• 13:07Speaker 04

  And, um,

• 13:08Bunnie XO?

  So you were like a little, like a,

• 13:10Speaker 04

  I was a magnet to that.

• 13:11Bunnie XO?

  You were a hot commodity.

• 13:12Speaker 04

  I was. And, you know, she had her vagina shaved in the shape of a heart.

• 13:15Speaker 03

  Okay, we don't care.

• 13:16Speaker 04

  For Valentine's Day, because that's the first time.

• 13:18Speaker 03

  We don't care. I don't care.

• 13:20Speaker 04

  This is Bunny's show.

• 13:21Speaker 03

  Okay, well, I'm glad.

• 13:23Bunnie XO?

  Julie, have you ever shaved your vagina hair in the shape of a heart?

• 13:26Speaker 04

  We have no, we have no hair.

• 13:28Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 13:29Speaker 04

  We have no hair. I'm not a cat. I don't like getting hairballs.

• 13:33Bunnie XO?

  There you go. You don't have to come up for air and pick it out of your teeth.

• 13:37Speaker 04

  But, you know, when she did this.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  I know.

• 13:40Speaker 04

  When she says, I shaved my bush in the shape of a heart for you. And I said, well, I'm gonna break it. So.

• 13:46Bunnie XO?

  So because she broke your heart.

• 13:48Speaker 04

  Now, this was the other new woman.

• 13:49Bunnie XO?

  But I'm saying, so since the first one broke your heart, you became like a little Casanova and started breaking everybody else's hearts?

• 13:54Speaker 04

  I was gonna break her vagina because it was in the shape of a heart.

• 13:57Bunnie XO?

  Oh, gotcha. Okay, Todd. Are you packing?

• 14:02Bunnie XO?

  I gotta know. Julie, Julie, is he packing?

• 14:05Speaker 03

  I cannot believe this. This is evident. I don't even drink.

• 14:09Bunnie XO?

  Everybody was gonna wanna know after this. Todd, you're blushing. Did I just make Todd Chrisley blush?

• 14:15Speaker 04

  Well, I have never had a complaint. I've never had a complaint.

• 14:18Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so you're like a tripod.

• 14:24Speaker 04

  It's a two-hand job.

• 14:25Bunnie XO?

  Todd's got a hog. Todd's got a hog. Two hands? Let's go.

• 14:32Speaker 04

  But so, you know, I ended up doing that. And then I end up going back to South Carolina just for like a week. End up screwing this girl who was at the country club. She got pregnant.

• 14:47Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 14:48Speaker 04

  I don't know this until six weeks later. She gets in touch with me, tells me that she's pregnant. And that if I don't marry her, then she's gonna have an abortion.

• 14:58Speaker 04

  And I just couldn't do that because I just did not believe in abortion. And I, for me, I felt like this is my child.

• 15:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 15:06Speaker 04

  And so I come back. We ended up getting married because my mother shamed the hell out of me and told me that, you know, you should not be having sex inside, outside of marriage. I'm thinking, mama, I'm a hoe.

• 15:18Bunnie XO?

  I'm an escort.

• 15:19Speaker 04

  That's all you're worried about. Me fucking some chick one time back here in the sticks. And you weren't about, and I'm laying up getting my rent paid for fucking.

• 15:25Bunnie XO?

  You're like Alexa, cue Fancy by Reba McEntire, please.

• 15:29Speaker 04

  I just looked that out of my podcast. I feel like that when Reba wrote that song Fancy, it was about me.

• 15:35Bunnie XO?

  Me too, baby. That's why I said we are kindred souls. I'm telling you. So this book is coming out when? Because I can't wait to read it.

• 15:43Speaker 04

  I think it's gonna come out, it'll be completed, uh, sometime early next year, probably March. Then the following year it'll come out.

• 15:51Bunnie XO?

  Oh, wow. So we have to wait two years. Oh, my gosh. It's such a process.

• 15:54Speaker 04

  Chapters in, but there's a lot to the time.

• 15:56Bunnie XO?

  Yes. Oh, I'm sure. I, listen, I didn't even know this lore. And I'm like, I'm like foaming at the mouth. I need to know everything about Todd now.

• 16:05Speaker 04

  Um, so, you know, that's kind of how, when I went to LA the first time, that was my journey. And then I ended up me going through that very horrific relationship with my, the mother of my first two children. Um, because there was never any love there. I was thrown into that marriage by my own doing.

• 16:24Bunnie XO?

  Obligation.

• 16:24Speaker 04

  By my own doing. I blame no one for it. I had two children from that marriage. But I have never been in love but with one woman in my life, and that's who I've been married to for thirty years.

• 16:34Bunnie XO?

  Oh, and she is a beautiful woman.

• 16:37Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 16:37Bunnie XO?

  Her spirit is just so kind and so gentle and so sweet.

• 16:41Speaker 04

  She has no judgment for anyone. She is a good, decent, honorable human being.

• 16:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 16:45Speaker 04

  And she has been the backbone of what has elevated me to be who I am and to move forward in my life.

• 16:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 16:53Speaker 04

  And, and I think that when you see a successful man, you need to look that who's behind, over his shoulder.

• 17:00Bunnie XO?

  Yes, I one hundred.

• 17:01Speaker 04

  Because if there is a woman there, and that man that you're talking about is so strong and centered, he got that from somebody propping him up.

• 17:08Bunnie XO?

  Amen. You have to, you breathe life into.

• 17:11Speaker 03

  So true.

• 17:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 17:12Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  So true, though.

• 17:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. Tell me about the first time you guys met. Like Julie, how did you feel about him? When you first laid your eyes on Big Dong Kong over here.

• 17:22Speaker 04

  She didn't know it then. But she ran later.

• 17:26Bunnie XO?

  Off the bed. She ran later off the bed.

• 17:29Speaker 03

  So stupid. Um, you know, I was so young. I was just turning twenty-one.

• 17:38Speaker 03

  I was at a friend's house. He came with his brother over there. And his friend was actually a childhood friend of his. Um, so we grew up like in neighboring towns, but he's five years older than me. So we didn't like go to school together or anything like that. And he had moved back to South Carolina because he had gone through this divorce and had these two, had the two kids.

• 18:00Bunnie XO?

  This was after his hoe days. You were after his hoe days.

• 18:03Speaker 03

  Well, pretty much, I guess.

• 18:04Speaker 04

  She said, I guess.

• 18:05Speaker 03

  Pretty much, I guess. Um, and yeah, and so we met. And I, I, I like to think that it was pretty instant on both ends, on both sides.

• 18:15Speaker 04

  I have said that the moment she walked in, Bunny, I had never experienced that feeling in my life.

• 18:22Bunnie XO?

  Your souls recognize each other.

• 18:24Speaker 04

  I, I can remember exactly what she was wearing. I still have the ticket stub of the first movie that she and I went to see, Legends of the Fall.

• 18:32Bunnie XO?

  But he's a romantic.

• 18:33Speaker 04

  Yes, he is. It was the first time she and I had ever kissed.

• 18:36Speaker 03

  He's either really romantic or nothing. You know, it's like an all or none.

• 18:39Bunnie XO?

  When's your birthday, Todd?

• 18:40Speaker 04

  April, I'm in Aries.

• 18:42Bunnie XO?

  Aries, okay. And when's your birthday?

• 18:43Speaker 03

  Capricorn.

• 18:43Bunnie XO?

  You're Capricorn? Okay, I'm Capricorn Aquarius. I love that.

• 18:46Speaker 04

  And so when I met her that first night, I thought she had the most gorgeous smile I had ever seen. And the best boobs I had ever laid my eyes on.

• 18:55Bunnie XO?

  I mean, I could see under this little sweater puppies right here.

• 18:58Speaker 04

  She had great boobs. And I thought, God, she is so hot. And I said to my friend Bill, I said, who is that girl? And he said, don't even try it. Her father's a preacher. And I said, well, I have taken many preachers' daughters to the Holy Spirit.

• 19:14Bunnie XO?

  Oh, make him speak in tongues, baby.

• 19:16Speaker 04

  Right, there you go. And so he said, well, not this one. Not this one. And so I pursued her.

• 19:23Bunnie XO?

  It sounded like Bill might have had a crush on Julie. He was trying to cockblock.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  Well, he was, you know, they were friends. And even though he and I had grown up together, you know, he had lived with us his, his senior year in high school. She worked for his family's bank. So she was a teller there in the bank.

• 19:40Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 19:41Speaker 04

  And I kept going in after that, trying to make a deposit. But, um, you know, she, and that was before I had any money. And so I finally just said, well, it was the, it was on a Wednesday because that was a half day for her. And she said, so are you ever gonna ask me out?

• 19:58Bunnie XO?

  Finally, she was like, okay, so what were you thinking in this moment? He's coming in, visiting you, he's lingering.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, of course, he was so cute. He was so handsome. But then, of course, the very logical part of me was like, okay, this man's divorced. He's got two kids, like, you know, I don't know that I want to do this, right? Well, that didn't last long. We'll just say that didn't last long.

• 20:21Speaker 04

  So we, our first date was to Applebee's.

• 20:25Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love that.

• 20:26Speaker 04

  South Carolina.

• 20:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:27Speaker 04

  And it ended up, we started at lunch and we didn't leave until after nine o'clock that night.

• 20:31Bunnie XO?

  Oh, you guys were just sitting and talking the whole time?

• 20:34Speaker 04

  Yes, yes. And from that point on, now she wouldn't put out. So that was a problem for me because I was trashy. And, you know, for me, sex was kind of sealing the deal.

• 20:44Bunnie XO?

  That was your love language.

• 20:46Speaker 04

  Well, it was my validation for me. I mean, because I validated myself sexually.

• 20:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:50Speaker 04

  And.

• 20:50Bunnie XO?

  That's trauma from childhood. I was the same way.

• 20:52Speaker 04

  There you go. And, you know, because I went through a time in my life to where I had been molested by a doctor that my mother used to take my brother and I to as a dermatologist.

• 21:03Bunnie XO?

  A dermatologist?

• 21:05Speaker 04

  And so for me, I became very sexually active at 14 years old.

• 21:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 21:09Speaker 04

  And.

• 21:10Bunnie XO?

  I'm so sorry that happened.

• 21:11Speaker 04

  Listen, I, there's been more people go through that than, than what I have and have had far more severe trauma than what I've had.

• 21:18Bunnie XO?

  I say the same thing.

• 21:18Speaker 04

  And so I don't minimize what I went through, but I also am not going to take the light from someone who struggled with harsher things.

• 21:25Bunnie XO?

  I, I get it.

• 21:26Speaker 04

  But, um, she wouldn't sleep with me and so.

• 21:29Bunnie XO?

  Why wouldn't you sleep with him, Julie? Did you know he was a hoe?

• 21:32Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, I did.

• 21:33Bunnie XO?

  Okay. Did he have a reputation around town?

• 21:36Speaker 03

  I, I knew it.

• 21:37Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 21:37Speaker 03

  We lived in a very small town.

• 21:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And so were you playing hard to get? Was it part of a long game?

• 21:42Speaker 03

  There was probably some of that too.

• 21:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 21:44Speaker 04

  Um. Well, you have said that you did not trust me.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  Right.

• 21:48Speaker 04

  That she didn't trust that I was sincere.

• 21:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 21:51Speaker 04

  And this is how.

• 21:52Speaker 03

  Because here he had, just came out of a divorce. So, you know, I'm like, okay, he's not going to settle down. He's gonna, you know, he's gonna do his thing because he, he got married so early, so young, you know, and had a baby right away. So I'm like, this guy's not going to settle down.

• 22:06Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 22:07Speaker 03

  You know?

• 22:07Speaker 04

  And the irony of it is, is that, so she's, I'm not having sex with you, whatever. So then, of course, I go out and I've never had a drop of alcohol in my life. Never drank, never done a drug. Sex was my drug.

• 22:22Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 22:23Speaker 04

  And so I end up hooking up with this girl that I thought was really hot.

• 22:27Bunnie XO?

  After the date with Julie?

• 22:29Speaker 04

  Well, after we'd been dating, I think for probably about three months.

• 22:32Bunnie XO?

  Okay, because you were horny by that time.

• 22:34Speaker 04

  Well, yeah, I mean, you only jack off so much.

• 22:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. Todd, Julie.

• 22:37Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, it just, it just is what it is. And so.

• 22:41Bunnie XO?

  It's a guy thing.

• 22:42Speaker 04

  And so I ended up going out, meeting up with this girl who was beautiful. And I ended up going back to her place and we had sex. Well, I'm never going to talk about that.

• 22:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 22:52Speaker 04

  I mean, that was sex.

• 22:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 22:54Speaker 04

  I'm still pursuing this one right here.

• 22:55Bunnie XO?

  You're in love.

• 22:56Speaker 04

  I was in love with her.

• 22:57Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 22:58Speaker 04

  And my, in my mind then, she didn't feel the same way about me because if she did, she would have sex with me.

• 23:04Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 23:04Speaker 04

  Because that's how I related it.

• 23:05Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 23:06Speaker 04

  But I remember going to pick her up to go to the lake on the weekend. And she's sitting there on this deck with these cut off jean shorts, this bathing suit top and these, the most beautiful boobs ever. And, um, as I pull up, I see this other girl sitting there on the deck as well.

• 23:28Bunnie XO?

  Oh, the one you just banged?

• 23:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, because she was a part of the friend group. He just didn't know.

• 23:33Speaker 04

  I didn't know it.

• 23:34Bunnie XO?

  No, Todd.

• 23:36Speaker 04

  And I didn't, when I pulled, walked up, I wanted to just, I wanted to just vaporize.

• 23:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, crawl into a hole.

• 23:45Speaker 04

  And, and she's looking at me and, and she goes, hey? And she gets something, gives me a kiss and the other one's sitting there. And I said, hey, how are you? And she goes, I'm good, how are you? So we get in the car and as we're backing out, she goes, when did you sleep with her?

• 24:00Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so did she tell you or did you just, you picked up on the vibes?

• 24:05Speaker 04

  She knew. She said, when did you sleep with her?

• 24:07Speaker 03

  I pay very close attention to people.

• 24:08Speaker 04

  And I lied.

• 24:09Speaker 03

  And I can read them like a book.

• 24:10Bunnie XO?

  You read energy.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  Yes, I lied. I rode that lie to the gates of hell. Because I wasn't telling nothing. And they, but women will tell their business.

• 24:20Bunnie XO?

  Yes. They kiss and tell all the time.

• 24:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. This chick goes, this chick goes and tells her bestie.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:27Speaker 04

  That I had screwed her. Her bestie tells her, well, you know, he's just, he's doing, he's just screwing everything that walks or whatever. And so she called me that night and she goes, we need to talk.

• 24:38Bunnie XO?

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• 25:53Speaker 05

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• 26:23Bunnie XO?

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• 28:32Speaker 04

  And I said, what's up? And she goes, this thing that you and I have is not going to continue.

• 28:37Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 28:38Speaker 04

  She's, and I said, what are you talking about? She said, I know about what you did with blah, blah, blah, blah. And she said, and if you don't have any more respect for me than to do that, she says, I have enough respect for myself to distance myself.

• 28:50Bunnie XO?

  Let's go, baby. Let's go.

• 28:52Speaker 04

  So I said.

• 28:53Bunnie XO?

  That's how you put a man in check.

• 28:54Speaker 04

  And I was so pissed off because I had never had anyone to do that to me.

• 28:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 28:58Speaker 04

  And I was like, who the fuck are you? Who are you to sit and tell me this shit?

• 29:05Speaker 03

  I'm exactly who I am. And we're done talking about that. We got more shit to talk about than your trashy past.

• 29:11Speaker 04

  So, long story short, going back, going back to that, Julie would not have anything to do with me for months.

• 29:20Bunnie XO?

  Oh, during that, during that time, what were you doing, Julie?

• 29:23Speaker 04

  Working.

• 29:23Speaker 03

  Working.

• 29:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, and just not worried about him.

• 29:25Speaker 03

  No.

• 29:26Bunnie XO?

  Okay, good for you.

• 29:27Speaker 04

  Working, working, doing her.

• 29:28Bunnie XO?

  Most women wouldn't walk away from that.

• 29:30Speaker 04

  Mm-mm. And I had to beg her.

• 29:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:32Speaker 04

  I literally had to go and say, listen, just give me one more chance and I give you my word that we will set the parameters here and I will abide by them and I will do what I need to do in order to rise to your level.

• 29:46Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 29:47Speaker 04

  And from that point on, I have never stepped away from her.

• 29:52Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 29:52Speaker 04

  And I don't like to say that I cheated because, I mean, that was before there was a rain.

• 29:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So in, and how long have you guys been married? How many years?

• 30:00Speaker 03

  Uh, 30. We've been married 30.

• 30:01Bunnie XO?

  30 years.

• 30:02Speaker 04

  Been together for 32.

• 30:03Speaker 03

  32, yeah.

• 30:04Bunnie XO?

  And you guys have, you, neither one of you have ever been with anybody else since then? Wow, I love that. What do you guys think the secret is to your marriage that makes it work?

• 30:14Speaker 04

  I think that I married, I think that I outkicked my coverage and I look at that every day and I look at her and say, God, thank you because she has been a loyal, faithful woman. She has been an exceptional mother, an amazing wife. She has built a home for us. I work every day, but she has built the home for us. And so when a man feels safe to go do what he needs to do, because you've got a woman holding it down at home, then that allows you to become bigger and better and hopefully more prosperous.

• 30:47Speaker 03

  But it doesn't mean that I was this just, you know, barefoot and pregnant woman sitting at home either. You know, I had a career and then we built the show together. But I also think that for me, I, from the very beginning, I was like, this marriage is going to work because it's not always been easy, you know? I mean, we had two children that he brought into the marriage immediately. Then I got pregnant with Chase very quickly, had Savannah 14 months later, Grayson nine years later. We had a prison sentence. We had, you know, a granddaughter that we adopted as a baby. So we had a lot of shit, like we've had a lot of stuff and that has gone on in the public eye.

• 31:31Speaker 03

  But I always said, you know, I'm not going to walk away, you know? And so I think, because there have been many times where it would have been easy for us to throw our hands up, right? And been like, okay, I'm done.

• 31:41Bunnie XO?

  And I think that that's what people don't understand when it comes to like real relationships, especially being in the public eye. There is so much pressure, there's so much scrutiny, there's so much shit that goes on behind closed doors that people don't know about.

• 31:53Speaker 03

  Right.

• 31:54Bunnie XO?

  And literally to wake up every day and say, I choose you. That is like the most beautiful gift that you can ever give to your person and like really choose them, even in the moments that you don't like them.

• 32:04Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 32:04Bunnie XO?

  There's so many times I've been like, I don't like you, but I love you and I'm gonna get through this with you.

• 32:09Speaker 03

  Absolutely, absolutely.

• 32:11Speaker 04

  And you know, and I think that for us, you know, and speaking for myself on this right now, I think that you know, when someone is there for the right reasons and you know where the commitment level is.

• 32:25Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 32:25Speaker 04

  And I had a lot of shit in my head when Julie got me and I was a fighter, you know, like I would say the most foul things and like, fuck you and, you know, she'd never heard any of this. You know, her parents are, you know, Southern Baptist and she grew up in the church her whole life, her father's been in the pulpit her whole life. And she had never heard her father speak poorly to her mother, raise his voice to her. Her mother had fixed his plate, fixed his glass of tea before everyone else ate, she fixed his plate. She had led that, that life. Well, Julie started out with me that way and I said, you don't need to fix my plate. And she said, but I want to.

• 33:06Speaker 04

  But for me, I felt like I don't want her feeling like that she's having to be less than a man to do this.

• 33:13Bunnie XO?

  That's more of a love language.

• 33:14Speaker 04

  And that's what she said. That's what she said. And so for me, Julie became a safety that I had never felt. And once you find that safety to where when you lay down at night and close your eyes and you know, when you wake up tomorrow morning, that same person that made you feel so comfortable to get, to get rest tonight is going to be who you see the first time, the first thing. That for me was very healing.

• 33:40Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 33:41Speaker 04

  And she took a lot of anger away from me that I had from my childhood.

• 33:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 33:45Speaker 04

  So she removed a lot of that anger. Uh, now she's caused a lot of anger for me and pissed me off over the years.

• 33:50Speaker 03

  Well, he has me too.

• 33:51Bunnie XO?

  I'm sure.

• 33:52Speaker 03

  But I don't argue with him.

• 33:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  You know, he loves for somebody to argue, like if you argue with him, oh my gosh, that just fuels him.

• 34:00Speaker 04

  It's sport for me.

• 34:01Speaker 03

  And I don't do that. I've never done that because it doesn't end well, you know? I mean, he does have a mouth, right? So it doesn't end well.

• 34:10Bunnie XO?

  Very sharp tongue.

• 34:11Speaker 03

  And I learned real quickly that that doesn't end well. So I'm just like, okay, say whatever you're gonna say.

• 34:16Bunnie XO?

  But he needs that, he needs that because if you fight fire with fire, then the flame just becomes bigger.

• 34:21Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 34:22Bunnie XO?

  If you smother the fire, it smoulders.

• 34:24Speaker 04

  And she has been able to do that.

• 34:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 34:26Speaker 04

  All of these years, she's been able to do that.

• 34:28Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 34:28Speaker 04

  And so now the fire in me, it's still there.

• 34:32Bunnie XO?

  Of course, it always will be.

• 34:33Speaker 04

  But it's not raging.

• 34:34Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 34:34Speaker 04

  To where before it was full wildfire mode.

• 34:37Bunnie XO?

  It's contained.

• 34:38Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 34:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And your guys' happy little campground.

• 34:40Speaker 04

  Yes, very much so.

• 34:41Bunnie XO?

  I love that. All right, so let's pivot really quick. I want to talk about something that had me cracking up. Todd, you are in your diss track era. Big, I'm big as a house, boat bitch. We watched that video and we were cracking up. So like, is reality TV not enough? Now you want to be a rapper and like a singer or what's happening? Are we getting like Grammys or, you know?

• 35:04Speaker 04

  No, you know, it was, um, again, I have learned to fight differently today.

• 35:12Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 35:12Speaker 04

  Um, to where before I would just slap the shit out of you because I love to physically fight.

• 35:17Bunnie XO?

  So I, I saw something that said that today and that actually caught me by surprise because I, I would have never have gotten that from you. Have you actually beat somebody up before?

• 35:27Speaker 04

  Several times.

• 35:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Did you, did you beat him up in prison too?

• 35:30Speaker 04

  No, I never had that problem.

• 35:31Bunnie XO?

  Oh, you were probably like a king.

• 35:32Speaker 03

  I had one incident.

• 35:33Speaker 04

  I had one incident, uh, yes, one incident with, uh, Rick Singer, who was the snitch on the, um, college, uh,

• 35:40Speaker 03

  Scandal?

• 35:41Speaker 04

  The college scandal.

• 35:42Bunnie XO?

  Oh, wow.

• 35:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's one who sent fucking Aunt Becky to prison.

• 35:45Bunnie XO?

  Oh my gosh. Lori Loughlin.

• 35:48Speaker 04

  Yes. And you know, and I've always thought she was hot.

• 35:50Bunnie XO?

  Hot.

• 35:51Speaker 04

  And, um, and she looks really good now that she's going through this divorce.

• 35:54Bunnie XO?

  No, I mean, everybody gets a glow up for this divorce.

• 35:57Speaker 04

  And so, um, you know, Rick Singer was there with me and, um, he was talking shit and he came down to my pod and he goes, the first day I got there, and he goes, um, hi, he says, I'm Rick. I said, I know who you are. And he goes, um, I just wanted to let you know that I'm here if you want to talk or anything. He said, I'm working on my book and he said, and just wanted to get your thoughts. And I said, well, I hope that you don't, I said, I hope your first chapter, I says, includes you being the biggest snitch in America.

• 36:29Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 36:31Speaker 04

  And everyone in my pod went, and when I walked out, this one guy came up to me goes, motherfucker, I'm riding with you.

• 36:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 36:41Speaker 04

  And, um, I just, I just shook my head because I didn't know what that meant at that point.

• 36:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 36:45Speaker 04

  And, um, so three months later, he's out in the library and he's saying some shit about Savannah, you know, and, you know, her fighting for our, you know, and a pardon for us and whatever. And so I just walked up to him and I told him, I said, listen, I'm not about fuckery. You can say what you need to say about me if it makes you feel good, but you better keep my daughter and my other children and my wife's name out of your mouth because we're already in prison camp. I will elevate our custody level and beat your ass from one end of this camp to the next. And I've not said anything, you know, he denied all of it. So then there was a second round of that same shit and I just put him up against the

• 37:30Speaker 04

  wall and I said, I will rip your head off and shit down your neck. I'm not playing with you.

• 37:34Bunnie XO?

  Julie, how does that make you feel?

• 37:35Speaker 03

  Well, you know, here I was.

• 37:37Speaker 04

  People come and tell her the story.

• 37:38Speaker 03

  Here I was worried. I was like, oh my gosh, you know, because we got there, right? And we had no communication, like we couldn't talk. Uh, we had an email, but it was emailed through prison, you know, prison email.

• 37:49Bunnie XO?

  Watch everything.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  And so here I am worried. I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, I hope he's okay. Um, you know, I'm, I'm worried about what he's gonna eat and, you know, I, I, here I was just all worried about everything. And then his friends are like, why were you worried? Like he was running the whole place. Like he could have been like behind the fence. He could have been in maximum security and he'd have been fine because everybody loved him, you know? And with the men, it's a little more segregated and they're like, but with Todd, it wasn't. Puerto Ricans loved him, Mexicans loved him, blacks loved him, whites loved him.

• 38:24Bunnie XO?

  Todd, tell me the truth, did you stab somebody when you first walked in there and just set the precedent?

• 38:28Speaker 04

  When I tell you, I never had a, I never had an unkind word with anyone other than him. Um, I worked out with the Puerto Ricans, the, the Mexicans, the blacks, the whites. Um, I had a great, I had a great relationship with all of them. I'm still friends with everyone that I was there with. I stay in contact with them. I put money on their commissary accounts. Um, and I have helped 1,400 people get home under the, under the first step act since I got out, just by them properly calculating correctly. And, um, so I didn't, I didn't have a, she had a far worse experience because she got nothing.

• 39:05Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 39:06Speaker 04

  I was able to hire staff members there that were COs. I put them on my payroll and I paid them to bring me my food, to give me my cell phone and they would put it up at night and hide it for me.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  I never saw a phone for 28 months.

• 39:20Speaker 04

  She's a role follower. She's boring.

• 39:22Bunnie XO?

  So Julie, your prison stay was, and we're going to get back to your diss track era too, but I just wanted to zero in on the prison stuff. So your prison stay was a lot worse than his?

• 39:33Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 39:34Bunnie XO?

  And, and first of all, I just want to say the, the, the prison system is fucked.

• 39:39Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 39:39Bunnie XO?

  I have friends who have gone through it. It's so sad what they do to these people. Once you are in the system, it is absolutely horrific.

• 39:47Speaker 03

  It really is.

• 39:48Bunnie XO?

  And the fact that you guys had to go through this, like I, I watched the whole thing and I watched Savannah go to bat for you guys and man, my heart was bleeding for you guys.

• 39:56Speaker 03

  It was crazy.

• 39:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 39:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. So I was in Lexington, Kentucky and, uh, where I was, it was a facility that was over a hundred years old. It had been a, um, mental institution like back in the day and then the state condemned the building. So literally they, it was back, they had a poppy field that was there when they believed that they could actually cure people of drug addiction.

• 40:21Bunnie XO?

  With like heroin?

• 40:23Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 40:23Bunnie XO?

  Poppy?

• 40:23Speaker 03

  The poppy. And then they would do the lobotomies and so.

• 40:26Bunnie XO?

  Send me there if I ever have to go.

• 40:28Speaker 04

  No, I'm close to dying.

• 40:29Speaker 03

  So there were, um, there were these windows and they would literally sit the women in these windows or sit the, the, not just women, men to, in these windows after they did the, the lobotomy because it gave them the sunlight, which was supposed to help them. Um, so it was just really dark and, you know, no air.

• 40:48Bunnie XO?

  The energy there had to have been crazy because you're, you feel energy too.

• 40:51Speaker 03

  Yes, it was, the energy was, was definitely off in the building and, um, You know, it was just different. Like, I never saw a cellphone. He had a cellphone from the moment he got there.

• 41:01Speaker 04

  Three days after I got there.

• 41:02Bunnie XO?

  Why do you think they treat women like that and men like that?

• 41:04Speaker 04

  Cause women are their own worst enemies. They turn on each other.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:07Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 41:08Speaker 04

  Men will stick together. Women will not.

• 41:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, it really is. It is the truth because

• 41:13Bunnie XO?

  That's so sad.

• 41:14Speaker 03

  It is, because you would think that, okay, you're all in there together, right? And Todd has said many times, prison is the greatest equalizer that we have in this country because when you walk through those doors, right, you're no different than anybody else.

• 41:27Bunnie XO?

  Right, you're

• 41:28Speaker 04

  No matter what you come from.

• 41:29Bunnie XO?

  You're inmate number, whatever, whatever.

• 41:30Speaker 03

  You're doing right. Um, but women, it's just this cattiness and, you know, if they thought you had one thing more than they had, you know? Um, it was crazy. They were more, they would just, I don't know, men just, just move different.

• 41:46Speaker 04

  You know, we, guys, guys, we're at my camp, we stuck together. And when I ordered my food, I bought food for everyone in my, in my pod.

• 41:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:58Speaker 03

  Um, so they all got Chick-fil-A.

• 42:00Bunnie XO?

  Ah, so were you allowed to order food out?

• 42:02Speaker 04

  Well, no, you're not allowed. You're not allowed. This was just, it just felt right for me to do it.

• 42:08Speaker 03

  He had Chick-fil-A, he had Culvers.

• 42:11Bunnie XO?

  Todd, you got away with murder in prison. What the fuck, dude?

• 42:14Speaker 03

  He had his, he had his hair pasted.

• 42:16Bunnie XO?

  He went to a country, he, he got his hair what?

• 42:18Speaker 03

  He had his own hair paste.

• 42:20Speaker 04

  Well, I had, because I use Kevin Murphy hair paste.

• 42:22Bunnie XO?

  Tell me.

• 42:23Speaker 04

  And so they brought it in to me.

• 42:24Bunnie XO?

  Did you braid your hair while you were in prison?

• 42:26Speaker 04

  I've never had long hair.

• 42:27Bunnie XO?

  You would have, though.

• 42:29Speaker 04

  Um, but, you know, we just didn't, we had a camaraderie. And that camaraderie has continued to exist because it was built on a bonding

• 42:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 42:40Speaker 04

  of hurt, of frustration, of hopes, of dreams.

• 42:45Speaker 03

  And I do have, I have some of those same, some of those same people, right? That I bonded with a lot of people because it is so different than being out, right? Because where I was, it was a small camp, so it was basically one building. So you slept there, you ate there, you worked there, you did everything together. So, you know, you might have a friend out here and we might see him once a week or once a month or whatever, but you were with them 24/7.

• 43:11Speaker 04

  This is like being in school. This is like being in school and you see the same people every day.

• 43:15Speaker 03

  Like boarding school, though.

• 43:15Speaker 04

  But mine was a poor boarding school.

• 43:17Speaker 03

  Mine, too.

• 43:18Speaker 04

  I didn't get, I didn't get the first-class boarding school. I got the busted one.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  You had friggin' Chick-fil-A.

• 43:21Speaker 04

  Well, which was better than what she had.

• 43:23Speaker 03

  And Culvers and Olive Garden.

• 43:25Bunnie XO?

  That to me in prison?

• 43:26Speaker 04

  Culvers, Olive Garden, Pizza Hut.

• 43:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I had none of that. Nothing. I had not one ounce of outside food.

• 43:31Bunnie XO?

  What does somebody in prison order from Olive Garden? I need to know.

• 43:34Speaker 04

  Well, I got this, like, trio thing that they got me one time, but I didn't like it.

• 43:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:39Speaker 04

  Cause I had never had it before. So, they said, oh, let's do Olive Garden. I said, "Okay, what is, what is that gonna be?" And they tell me, I said, "Okay." And so they brought it to me, I'm like, "Mm, I don't wanna do this anymore."

• 43:53Bunnie XO?

  So before you went to prison, you never had Olive Garden?

• 43:56Speaker 04

  Mm-mm.

• 43:56Speaker 03

  No, he never, he never, mm-mm.

• 43:58Bunnie XO?

  That is, that's blasphemy.

• 44:00Speaker 03

  After we got out, we went, we were visiting a friend and, uh, he said, "Pull over, let's go to Culvers." And I said, "Culvers? You've never been to Culvers, right? Ever. Like, ever. Never." And he said, "Oh, I had it all the time when I was away."

• 44:14Bunnie XO?

  And you're over here like, "What the fuck?"

• 44:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:17Bunnie XO?

  I'm literally eating slop and you're over here eating friggin' Olive Garden and Culvers.

• 44:21Speaker 04

  Yes, but

• 44:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, it, true story.

• 44:25Speaker 04

  These gardens where I was, they wanted that hookup. You know, they wanted to make money.

• 44:31Bunnie XO?

  Of course.

• 44:32Speaker 04

  And so when the one approached me and I said, "Dude, you are so hired."

• 44:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 44:38Speaker 04

  "You are so hired."

• 44:39Bunnie XO?

  You're like the little mafia boss that was

• 44:42Speaker 03

  He really was, yeah.

• 44:43Speaker 04

  I mean, listen, some of my buddies have, have met Julie and they're like, "Julie, I ain't never seen nothing like it in my life."

• 44:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 44:51Speaker 04

  They said, "Everyone was lined up the day he came in. They were lined up waiting to see him and whatever." And said, and hell, a week later, he's got him in there redoing the dorm. He's got him bringing in spa sheets for him. And

• 45:04Bunnie XO?

  Spa sheets. Were you giving them, like, style advice in there or did anybody give you style advice?

• 45:09Speaker 04

  Because she was this bull dagger dyke bitch that I hated.

• 45:12Bunnie XO?

  I feel like the wardens are always the worst, too.

• 45:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, she, and she was, like, again, my thing is, is that if you're a lesbian, I'm down with that.

• 45:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 45:20Speaker 04

  But be a lipstick lesbian.

• 45:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 45:23Speaker 04

  Don't be a bull dagger dyke.

• 45:25Bunnie XO?

  Why? But I think some of the masks are hot, though.

• 45:29Speaker 04

  No, I don't. I think it's confusing. Um, but, you know, I just think it's confusing. I don't understand that. If you, as a woman, are attracted to a woman, you should be attracted to the feminine qualities of that woman. If you're attracted to a woman who looks like a dude and acts like a dude, then really you would just want dick and you're not getting it.

• 45:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, but ma, I mean, maybe. I understand your point there, too, but there are some lesbians, like Ruby Rose, like, how friggin' hot is she? She's hot. Gorgeous.

• 45:58Speaker 03

  Sorry, he doesn't know anybody. Sorry.

• 46:00Bunnie XO?

  You gotta look her up. She's gorgeous and she's

• 46:02Speaker 04

  Is that the one who just killed her baby's daddy or something?

• 46:04Bunnie XO?

  No, that's Gypsy Rose.

• 46:05Speaker 03

  No, that's Gypsy Rose and she didn't kill him. He died of an overdose. Oh my god.

• 46:10Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 46:11Bunnie XO?

  I understand what you're saying, but okay, so you hated the warden?

• 46:14Speaker 04

  Um, I did not like Sherri Salisbury. Let me put this bitch's name out there like I do every week. Um, you know, she came in

• 46:22Bunnie XO?

  Well, she was named after a friggin' frozen steak.

• 46:25Speaker 04

  Steak, exactly.

• 46:28Bunnie XO?

  I couldn't expect much.

• 46:30Speaker 04

  Swans is better.

• 46:31Bunnie XO?

  I couldn't expect much.

• 46:33Speaker 04

  But she came in and, and the bitch's wig was, was cockeyed on her head.

• 46:37Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 46:38Speaker 04

  And so she had this wig on and she, she looked like a lime popsicle when she came in her first day. And

• 46:45Bunnie XO?

  Was the wig green?

• 46:47Speaker 04

  No, but she was this black woman who just was like a bull dagger.

• 46:51Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 46:52Speaker 04

  And so she, and she had a man's suit on and this fake Gucci belt. Well, you now know how to spot a knockoff.

• 47:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 47:03Speaker 04

  And so I passed her on the sidewalk and this was her first day coming in, cause I was already there before she got there. And she looked at me and I said, "Good afternoon," and kept right on walking, cause I have nothing to say to her. And so she calls me down to her office, like, three days later, and she said, "Mr. Chrisley, do you know why I called you to my office?" And I said, "You missed me." And she said, "No." She says, "I'm surprised for a man who's been written up in so many fashion magazines that you didn't compliment my Gucci belt the other day." And I looked at her and I said, "But it's not real. It's a knockoff." And she said, "My belt is real."

• 47:46Speaker 04

  And I said, "If you believe that, then you should go back to who sold it to you because it's not." I said, "But you did, you did have on nice shoes." And

• 47:57Bunnie XO?

  You're like, "If I have to find something, I'm gonna dig deep."

• 48:00Speaker 04

  Exactly. So that, so I gave her that one. And so then she started, you know, thinking that we were go- It started out kinda like, you know, she was wanting to be friends, but then I started calling her out because she was so prejudiced against any man. It didn't matter if they were black, white, Puerto Rican or whatever. She hated any man. And so

• 48:23Bunnie XO?

  That's probably why she got into that position.

• 48:25Speaker 04

  Right.

• 48:25Bunnie XO?

  To, to control.

• 48:26Speaker 04

  Exactly. Which makes you wonder what's in that, what's going on upstairs there.

• 48:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 48:31Speaker 04

  So she and I fought the entire time and then her ass got, she was forced to retire after I got out. And then I went and told everything and provided all the documentation on her.

• 48:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:42Speaker 04

  Her ass was uninvited to the Bureau of Prisons.

• 48:45Bunnie XO?

  So, okay, so you got mad, and this is just me asking an, an innocent question. You got mad at Rick Singer for snitching, but do you feel like telling on her was a form of snitching?

• 48:56Speaker 04

  No, cause I told on you, bitch. I've already told you I told on you.

• 49:00Bunnie XO?

  But do you feel like you were saving everybody in that prison from her?

• 49:02Speaker 04

  I did, I did. I did. Uh, the camp was closed down.

• 49:05Bunnie XO?

  Yes, oh, wow.

• 49:06Speaker 04

  All of their, all of those guys there, their, um, time sheets were updated and done correctly. She was not doing any of that.

• 49:13Speaker 03

  He truly was and has been an advocate for all the, all, men and women that were left there.

• 49:20Speaker 04

  Well, I, I watched her abuse these guys. I watched her go in and tear their, tear their rooms up, throw their food out on the floor, flip their beds, just to show that she could do it.

• 49:31Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 49:32Speaker 04

  And so when I started watching how she rolled, I thought, "Okay." So then I told one of the COs that I was paying, I said, "I need 12 pens that have recorders on them. I'm gonna record this bitch for what she's doing to these men."

• 49:43Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 49:44Speaker 04

  So I planted that shit out there. We got the footage of her and I turned it over to Savannah.

• 49:49Bunnie XO?

  Good for you.

• 49:50Speaker 04

  And Savannah got, there has, there has been 19 people that have lost their jobs.

• 49:55Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 49:56Speaker 04

  And you don't get rid of people in the federal government.

• 49:59Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 49:59Speaker 04

  Unless you can prove what the hell, what they've done.

• 50:02Speaker 03

  Yes, yes.

• 50:03Speaker 04

  So it should tell you that if 19 people have been walked out of the Bureau of Prisons, some facing criminal charges.

• 50:12Speaker 04

  That I had the goods on them.

• 50:14Bunnie XO?

  Good for you. Good for you. That's amazing because they really, like I was saying before, when we started this conversation about the prison, they need an advocate like you. They need a voice like you.

• 50:24Speaker 04

  And I'm in it every, Bunny, I'm in it every day.

• 50:26Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 50:27Speaker 04

  I'm in it every day. I work with the.

• 50:30Bunnie XO?

  Let me know what I can do to help.

• 50:31Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 50:32Bunnie XO?

  I would love to help.

• 50:32Speaker 04

  I work with a guy named Rick, with Rick, who is with the Bureau of Prisons. He's Rick Stover. He's over the First Step Act. And he has been such a blessing and he and I kind of butted heads in the beginning. But then when I started showing him what they were doing, he said, yeah, that's not right. And then he stepped in and started cleaning it up. And because of Rick, there's been over 1,400 men and women to have recalculations done that are now sitting at home with their loved ones.

• 51:00Speaker 03

  Not anything that's been given to them, but what they've actually earned.

• 51:04Speaker 04

  What they've earned and what they deserve.

• 51:05Speaker 03

  The First Step Act, which, you know, is a law.

• 51:08Speaker 04

  And you have a wonderful director of the Bureau of Prisons for the first time in the history is William Marshall. He has been a wonderful man when it comes to looking at this from a human perspective.

• 51:21Speaker 03

  Right. Well, I think for the first time, it's being seen that, okay, a prison, you're sentenced, you've whatever, you've been found guilty, you've pled, whatever. You are in prison for a certain amount of time, but it is not their job every day to punish you.

• 51:35Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 51:36Speaker 03

  It is their job to make sure. Your punishment is to be there. It is their job to make sure that you are educated. If you come in there without a high school diploma, that you are being rehabilitated, that you are safe. You know, those are the things. And, and so many times, so many of these people, they think that it is their life's mission just to punish you every single day, you know, and it's.

• 52:00Speaker 04

  And you know, it was so.

• 52:01Speaker 03

  It's ridiculous.

• 52:03Speaker 04

  The whole experience was so humbling. Because we would have never met these people that were in these prisons.

• 52:09Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 52:09Speaker 04

  It was so humbling to realize that I'm sitting here, sharing a Snicker bar with someone who can't buy one. And them talking about their kids and how they've not seen them in three years. Or how they, you know, that this is what really happened. And when you hear these stories and you start researching the case, you realize this guy was railroaded because he had no money for an attorney. And you know, you look at these young kids of color that are in here, that are truly, anyone that says, listen, I'm a Republican. I don't make any bones about it. I always have been. I've always been a conservative. But I've always kind of ridden in the middle of the road.

• 52:46Speaker 04

  I believe in certain things and then other, I'm not left, I'm not right, but I'm right in the center.

• 52:51Bunnie XO?

  But you believe in right and wrong.

• 52:52Speaker 04

  But I believe in right and wrong. And I believe that the God that I serve, when I meet my maker, I don't want him to say, why did you mistreat this person? Why did you not feed your brother when he was hungry? Why did you not clothe him when he was naked?

• 53:05Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 53:06Speaker 04

  And these young kids coming into the system, and you've got staff members that would put them in refusal status. Now refusal status means you're not getting your credits to reduce your sentence. They would just throw them in there because they didn't want to do their job.

• 53:20Bunnie XO?

  Right. And they just get lost in the system.

• 53:22Speaker 04

  And they get lost in the system.

• 53:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. And you know, and I think a lot of people don't realize, even I remember after we were sentenced, one of my attorneys said, Chris, you're gonna be fine.

• 53:34Speaker 04

  You're going to a camp.

• 53:34Speaker 03

  You're going to a camp. It's gonna be people just like you.

• 53:37Speaker 04

  It's not.

• 53:38Speaker 03

  It's not.

• 53:38Speaker 04

  Now, it was more with me than her.

• 53:40Speaker 03

  I'm not saying I'm any better than anybody else. Cause like I said, I view myself, when I walk through those doors, I am no better than anybody else walking. But it is not just white collar criminals, right? It is people from all walks of life. Now, because we were at a camp, no violent offenders, but.

• 53:58Speaker 04

  No sexual offenders.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  It was a lot of, you know, drug offenders, right? It was a lot of drug dealers, a lot of people that had gotten caught with drugs and, and that had been in what we call real prison, you know, behind the fence prison. And they had make, made their way to a camp. So, you know, you're thrown in with a lot of different people from completely different backgrounds, backgrounds than what you're used to, right? And I have to say, some of those are my dearest friends to this day. You know, I have my, we both say, we had our kids in there because at the end of the day, we had been parents longer than we had been anything else, right? We had been parents since we were 21 years old. So, I use that, right? Cause that's what I know.

• 54:41Speaker 03

  So, I was able to take these, these girls that were, you know, in their 30s or even in their 40s. But so many of them emotionally, you know, they were 25. Right. And I feel like so many people in, when they're in the throes of addiction, you know, at, at some point because of trauma and because of things that have happened, they kind of quit maturing emotionally. You know, so they, I viewed them as my kids, right? And, and that's how they view me. I still to this day, I get.

• 55:08Speaker 04

  They call her Mama J.

• 55:09Speaker 03

  Mother's Day cards and I get birthday cards, you know, and I take care of them as well.

• 55:16Speaker 03

  And try, you know, try to help them when they do get out, you know, and so many of these young girls, you know.

• 55:21Speaker 04

  They have nowhere to go.

• 55:22Speaker 03

  They have nowhere to go. You know, they, a lot of them dated a drug dealer. They got caught up in it. You know, I had one, my, one of my girls, she, you know, her husband wore a wire. And, you know, they were both doing the same thing, but he wore a wire on her and, you know, she got sentenced to 15 years in prison.

• 55:43Speaker 04

  And he got nothing.

• 55:44Speaker 03

  No, he did get, he did get prison time, but not as much as she did.

• 55:47Speaker 04

  But now see Bunny, that goes back to what we were talking about earlier about how did, how did I get to do all the things that I did versus her doing nothing? Because women don't take care of women. And it's so sad because now let's just talk a little bit about kind of where you've been in your life.

• 56:08Speaker 04

  You look at how many of the negative comments that have been made about you have been made by women.

• 56:14Bunnie XO?

  Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's crazy.

• 56:16Speaker 04

  It's not the men. The men might say, dumb bitch hoe.

• 56:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 56:19Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 56:19Bunnie XO?

  Some guys called me a slut the other day or yesterday and I was like, don't talk to me like that. I like it.

• 56:24Speaker 04

  I just said, stop flirting with me. But I mean, you know, guys, they're just not articulate enough to, or they just don't give a shit enough.

• 56:33Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 56:33Speaker 04

  To do that.

• 56:34Bunnie XO?

  It's more emotional. Women are more emotional and they want to hurt.

• 56:37Speaker 04

  And here's the thing about it is that you've got women saying you're a slut.

• 56:42Speaker 04

  But they're, they have fucked 50 men and are in church on Sunday for free.

• 56:48Bunnie XO?

  Yes. Yes.

• 56:50Speaker 04

  Bitch owns something. I mean, it's the same thing as people commenting today, because you know Savannah released today.

• 56:56Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 56:56Speaker 04

  That, you know, she's pregnant. And that one of the comments said, this bitch banging a billionaire. And I went back and I said, better than banging somebody in the bread line.

• 57:08Speaker 04

  So, I mean, which is, is insane at the women and the comments that they will make. Stop as a woman going out here and fighting for equal rights, fighting, saying that women are being discriminated. Bitch, you are discriminating against your own people.

• 57:26Bunnie XO?

  Discriminator. Yes. Yes.

• 57:27Speaker 03

  It's so true.

• 57:28Speaker 04

  Rather than, you know, yes, you've heard negative things about us. I've heard negative things about you. And yet here we're sitting together. Because I choose to do business with and to be friends with people that I trust and that I have something in common with.

• 57:44Bunnie XO?

  Yes. But also you, it's like people can say whatever they want about somebody online. You don't really know that person.

• 57:51Speaker 04

  Until you sit down with them.

• 57:52Bunnie XO?

  You sit in somebody's energy, you can't feel who they are as a person.

• 57:56Speaker 03

  Absolutely. It's so true.

• 57:57Bunnie XO?

  I could never leave a bad comment on somebody's page ever because I just, I, one, I'm not like that. But two, I have to be in your energy. Let me shake your hand. Let me hug you. And then I can form an opinion.

• 58:06Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 58:07Speaker 03

  And I have never, they, they get on to me all the time.

• 58:09Speaker 04

  She has never read comments.

• 58:11Speaker 03

  I've never read comments since the very beginning of our show, right? Never read comments. Like, I don't need to hear you say, this bitch is fat. Okay. I knew I was fat. I didn't need you telling me that, right?

• 58:23Bunnie XO?

  You're so hot though.

• 58:24Speaker 03

  And I just never have. Like, would they say something about Todd or they, he's like, and he gets, sometimes he gets all in his feelings. And I'm like, why do you care? I'm like, why do you care? They don't even know you, right? Like, and.

• 58:39Speaker 04

  But like, I don't care.

• 58:40Bunnie XO?

  How does that make you feel when everybody is always hurling gay accusations at you?

• 58:44Speaker 04

  That has never bothered me. That never bothered me in the beginning. Because A, I know what I do.

• 58:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 58:49Speaker 04

  Not that if you're gay, that it matters to me because I don't give a shit. And I understand why you would look at me and want this. I get that. But at the end of the day, it's not, now is it something that I, that I would ever do? It just depends on if one of my kids was ever in trouble or, you know, I didn't have a lot of money or.

• 59:06Bunnie XO?

  Have you ever been with a man or have you ever, no, never? Yeah.

• 59:09Speaker 04

  I've been propositioned, you know, by people in Hollywood.

• 59:11Bunnie XO?

  Well, I'm only asking because you were, you were escorting in Hollywood.

• 59:14Speaker 04

  You have to remember in 86, that really wasn't a, that really wasn't as big as what it is today. It was man and woman. So, no, that's never bothered me. And I have raised my children with the understanding that it's not what someone calls you, it's what you answer to.

• 59:30Bunnie XO?

  React and they own you. I kind of say the same thing. Yes.

• 59:33Speaker 04

  And so I don't, I don't, I don't give you that. And you know, and the irony of it is, is that I think that both political parties are hypocrites. Because you've got the Democrats over here and the liberals shouting, you know, for, for gay marriage and for transgender equality. But yet they're the first ones that will try to out a Republican. Then you got the Republicans over here saying no to, no to gay marriage, no to this, no to that. And they're in gay relationships. That's hypocrisy on the both, on both sides. My thing is, and it's always been, do what makes you feel good.

• 1:00:16Bunnie XO?

  Yes. As long as you're not hurting people.

• 1:00:18Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 1:00:19Bunnie XO?

  And you're leading with love. I truly believe that if you, Jesus wants us to lead with love.

• 1:00:24Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:00:24Bunnie XO?

  That's what he did his entire.

• 1:00:26Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:00:27Bunnie XO?

  Lifetime on earth.

• 1:00:28Speaker 03

  Two consenting adults, what you choose to do.

• 1:00:30Speaker 04

  From the label of the town whore.

• 1:00:32Bunnie XO?

  I mean, honey, he turned water into wine. He had party tricks, you know? So, I'm like, he couldn't have been that bad of a guy.

• 1:00:39Speaker 04

  I feel like I am walking with the Lord all the time. I'm doing his work. God and Todd.

• 1:00:44Bunnie XO?

  God and Todd, baby. I love that.

• 1:00:46Speaker 04

  You know, at the end of the day, I don't care what, I care less about what you call me and more about why you're hurting so bad that you felt the need to do that.

• 1:00:57Bunnie XO?

  That's a different level of healed and healing. I don't ever believe that we're all fully healed. But that's a different level of healing is when you can actually look at somebody who's trying to hurt you and see that they're also hurting.

• 1:01:07Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:01:08Bunnie XO?

  You know?

• 1:01:08Speaker 04

  And you know, and that's, and that's happened today, you know, like with Savannah, which, which should be one of the most beautiful, and it is the most beautiful time of her life.

• 1:01:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:17Speaker 04

  Yes. You know, is, you know, you've got all these comments, oh, she's having a child out of wedlock. Is she?

• 1:01:26Speaker 04

  Is she Bunny having, is she having a child at a wedlock?

• 1:01:30Bunnie XO?

  Let's talk about it.

• 1:01:32Speaker 04

  You know, at the end of the day, Savannah's story is her story to tell. And do we know everything? Yes, we're her parents. Um, and do we celebrate her and, and her announcement today? We do. I'm tickled to death and can't hardly wait to get my grandbaby.

• 1:01:50Bunnie XO?

  Um, I feel like that's like, you guys have been waiting for Savannah to be a mom.

• 1:01:54Speaker 04

  I cannot wait to hold this baby. And it's, and she called her mom and she said, Mom, do not let dad tell Bunny what I'm having. That is my story.

• 1:02:05Bunnie XO?

  That was my next question.

• 1:02:07Speaker 04

  She said, do not let daddy tell Bunny. And I said, um, but you know, I'm thrilled. Now let's address the elephant in the room.

• 1:02:15Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:02:16Speaker 04

  Let's, you know, because we did our part, I did a podcast with Savannah and Savannah started asking me these, what was it? Top, topic, hot topic questions or something? And I think that you came, you came up in that. And Savannah said she didn't understand it with a younger guy. Clearly she does not understand dating younger.

• 1:02:37Bunnie XO?

  I, she's dating an older man, right? Is the guy that's-

• 1:02:40Speaker 04

  Well, is she dating or is she engaged or is she married?

• 1:02:42Bunnie XO?

  Right. So I guess, well, I mean, let me know. I would like to know. Can you, what can you tell us, Todd?

• 1:02:48Speaker 04

  I think that all the haters out there that have talked shit today is going to be-

• 1:02:51Bunnie XO?

  Todd's nervous. He's rubbing his knees. He's like-

• 1:02:54Speaker 04

  I think that all of the, the haters that have commented this morning about Savannah's life is going to go back and start deleting when she releases the rest of her story next week.

• 1:03:03Bunnie XO?

  So I guess we can assume, because her story is going to be, uh, released next week. Um, she's married?

• 1:03:14Speaker 04

  Let's just say this, she did very well with what she has done.

• 1:03:20Bunnie XO?

  Oh, can we get a hint of who the man is? Or like, how long has he been around? How do you feel about him?

• 1:03:27Speaker 04

  He is older. He's 20 years older. Um, and it was not a, it was not something that I embraced because-

• 1:03:36Bunnie XO?

  Not at all.

• 1:03:36Speaker 04

  I was, I mean, to the point that I had a choice to make. It was either embrace my daughter's decision or lose my daughter.

• 1:03:44Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:03:45Speaker 04

  And nothing is ever coming between me and my daughter. I love Savannah with my heart and soul. Um, but did I advocate for this? No. But I will tell you that there's a lot of, um,

• 1:04:01Speaker 04

  he has treated her with the utmost of respect. Um, he has never had children. He's divorced, um, for many years. Um, went through a very difficult time in his life and that's their story to tell, but went through a very difficult time in his life. Um, and

• 1:04:22Speaker 04

  to watch how she's treated on a daily basis. And he came to me as my generation would, because he is of my generation. I say that, you know, she's, she'll have 20 years with him and I'll retire with him in the assisted living. Um, but the, he came to me, he asked for her hand in marriage. And I said to him, I said, you do understand that she may be the only love that you claim you've ever had, but you won't be her only love.

• 1:04:53Bunnie XO?

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• 1:06:53Speaker 04

  And did it, was I, was I, I was that honest? I said, but you won't be her only love. And he said, well, it's my job while I am to make sure she never forgets it.

• 1:07:04Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:07:05Speaker 04

  And Savannah sat and cried with me and she said, I would rather have 20 years of everything than 50 years of nothing.

• 1:07:14Speaker 04

  And how do you go against it at that point? Because she's going to do what she's going to do. And no matter how much she respects me or respects her mother, when your heart wants what it wants, if you have been raised by parents that have made you feel safe and secure and loved, you know, you can kind of stretch that to get to where you need to get to, because you know where you're safe landing. And if it ended tomorrow,

• 1:07:45Speaker 04

  it's already been a blessing because my daughter knows what, what, how she's supposed to be treated.

• 1:07:50Bunnie XO?

  Savannah's an old soul and you guys-

• 1:07:52Speaker 04

  She was never going to be with somebody younger. You know, she was with Nick for four and a half years. They got engaged and I have said that Savannah stayed in that engagement for me.

• 1:08:03Speaker 04

  Because I think she knew early on that this is not where she wanted to be and this is not what she was going to do. But she did not want to come to me and say, because you know, she was, she accepted her engagement on television. And I think she, and she has said as much that it was, had it not been for disappointing me, it would have ended sooner than it did. And I feel bad for that as a father, that my daughter, although I loved Nick and Nick was my, he was my chosen one and was the greatest kid, one of the greatest kids in the world.

• 1:08:40Speaker 04

  I would rather have my daughter's happiness than someone else's.

• 1:08:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:44Speaker 04

  And I don't want my daughter to ever feel like that if she fucks up, that daddy's going to walk away from me. And because that's not going to happen, I'm not going to walk away from any of them. Now, some of them I don't talk to because I don't get along with them, but you know-

• 1:08:58Bunnie XO?

  But that doesn't mean you don't love them.

• 1:08:59Speaker 04

  Doesn't mean I don't love all of them. I love every one of them.

• 1:09:03Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:09:03Speaker 04

  And every one of them knows if they get their ass between a rock and a hard spot, they can come home and then call their daddy. But I don't believe that blood bonds you for life. I believe that blood is a common denominator. It's DNA. I believe what bonds you for, for life is commonality. Safety, um, knowing that you're loved and protected. That bonds you for life. And just because you're family doesn't mean you always have that. Now, I love my children and I love each and every one of them differently. You know, people have said forever that Savannah is Todd's chosen child or whatever.

• 1:09:47Speaker 04

  And I, that's just not true. Do I love her with all of my heart and soul? Yes, and would lay down and die for her, but I would lay down and die for her siblings as well. Each child gives you something different. Savannah has always given me

• 1:10:05Speaker 04

  the security of knowing she was going to do the right thing or she's going, she's going to do everything in her power to do the right thing. Chase has always given me this larger-than-life personality of just love and he's so funny and I say he's the only star in the family because he's, he's that dynamic.

• 1:10:26Bunnie XO?

  He's you.

• 1:10:26Speaker 04

  He, you know, people say he's me, but he's so much better than I've ever been. He's so, even with his struggles, he is so much better than I've ever been. And I just need for him to say that I'm nothing compared to what he's going to become. And I don't want to be better than my children. Because if I'm better than my children, I didn't work hard enough on them. So I want whatever I've done today, step on that to get you to the next level. And when I say step on that, step on all of it. Watch the journey that your mother and I've had to go through in our life. Learn from it. Don't be bitter from it. Cause I'm not bitter from it. I look every day and I, and I say, and Julie and I have talked about this and I pray about it.

• 1:11:10Speaker 04

  I give glory to God for what we went through. Because without that, 1,400 people would still be sitting there.

• 1:11:16Bunnie XO?

  Well, your mess became your message.

• 1:11:18Speaker 04

  There you go. And Julie and I have gotten to a place. Now, are we different people today than we were before this happened? A hundred percent.

• 1:11:27Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:11:28Speaker 04

  We interact differently with each other. We have created more boundaries between us and our children because you're grown now. This time belongs to me and Julie. And you know, I think that everything you go through Bunny, and you know this because you've had hardships in your life.

• 1:11:48Speaker 04

  It's not the easy stuff that defines you.

• 1:11:51Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:11:51Speaker 04

  It's the messy stuff.

• 1:11:53Bunnie XO?

  If it was easy, we'd all do it.

• 1:11:54Speaker 04

  Exactly. And you know, look at where you are today. Look at where you are today. And you're sitting here with a platform to where you can show all these other young girls out here that have gone down the same path that you went down. That there is light at the end of the tunnel, but be smarter about it.

• 1:12:13Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:12:14Speaker 04

  And, you know, for me, I love you dearly. I, I love your humor. I love that you own your shit, that no one else gets to tell your story. Bunny tells her story. What you're hearing from someone else is gossip. What you hear from you is the reality. And that's how I want to live my life. Now, I don't really necessarily give a shit what people believe.

• 1:12:38Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:12:38Speaker 04

  Those people are gonna believe whatever resonates for them in that moment

• 1:12:43Bunnie XO?

  For sure.

• 1:12:43Speaker 04

  of their life.

• 1:12:44Bunnie XO?

  Everybody's seeing everything from a different lens.

• 1:12:46Speaker 04

  Yes, and so you know, so when you look at our daughter today, you're not with her every day. You're, do you understand that I'm with my daughter every day of her life? She is at our table. She and her significant other.

• 1:13:02Bunnie XO?

  So do we know him? Does, is he?

• 1:13:05Speaker 04

  Oh, yes, we know.

• 1:13:06Bunnie XO?

  Oh, so we know him. Is he like, is he famous?

• 1:13:08Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:13:09Bunnie XO?

  Or is he?

• 1:13:10Speaker 04

  Well, there's, there's, there's, there's some infamy there.

• 1:13:14Bunnie XO?

  Okay, okay.

• 1:13:14Speaker 04

  Um, let's just say that she crossed the political aisle.

• 1:13:19Bunnie XO?

  Oh, okay. Red or blue?

• 1:13:22Speaker 04

  So she's born red.

• 1:13:23Bunnie XO?

  Okay. I should have known it was Savannah.

• 1:13:26Speaker 04

  Um, let's just say she crossed the political aisle.

• 1:13:30Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:13:30Speaker 04

  Which tells you that we can all come together.

• 1:13:33Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:13:33Speaker 04

  Literally. Um, the, um, I think that, um, it's gonna be their story and I'll have her, I'll ask her to come on here and talk to you about it.

• 1:13:42Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:13:43Speaker 04

  Because I want her to tell her own story. Um, but we have dinner with them every night. They're sitting at our table.

• 1:13:50Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:13:51Speaker 04

  Um, I said, I've got a front row seat to one, to one of the greatest love stories that I've witnessed.

• 1:13:57Bunnie XO?

  Besides you guys'?

• 1:13:58Speaker 04

  Well, I don't even compare it to that because that's not happening.

• 1:14:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:01Speaker 04

  That's not happening. And I, and I say to him, if you just love my daughter 50% of the, of how I've loved her mother and how I love her mother, then I'm okay with it.

• 1:14:14Speaker 04

  And, and she's whole. She feels whole. And, you know, I mean, we're talking about battles that she's having now about not being able to wear certain clothes.

• 1:14:23Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:14:23Speaker 04

  And, you know, no one knows the struggle that she, you know, that she went through, you know, from the time.

• 1:14:28Bunnie XO?

  IVF, right?

• 1:14:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, and here's the, this is how God works, Bunny. She had been diagnosed with endometriosis when she was what, 16?

• 1:14:36Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:14:37Speaker 04

  16. And she had struggled with it from 16 on.

• 1:14:41Speaker 03

  Multiple surgeries, it's been.

• 1:14:42Speaker 04

  And so she went through her, through her last surgery about five or six years ago, seven years ago, maybe. And I went with her, was there with her when she had it done. And sat in the doctor's office with her and said, what are her chances of being able to get pregnant? And he said, about the same as anyone else's. He said, I feel like that I got 95% of it. He said, she's gonna be fine. And then, you know, she did not want to have a baby at that point in her life, so she was on birth control. So she didn't know if she could or if she couldn't. But when she got to a certain age, when she got to 27, she said, I think I want to freeze my eggs. And, and I said, well, why? Because I didn't understand that whole, all the stuff with that.

• 1:15:26Speaker 04

  Because like with me back in our day, I mean, you're screwed and got somebody pregnant. And that's what I, I'm noted for that. Um, and so I didn't understand it. Julie is way more educated on that kind of stuff. And I would say, well, what does that mean? And Julie would have to fill me in. So she went through this whole egg retrieval. So at this point, she's with her, with her guy, and they've been together for a year. And, you know, and she's like, this is who I'm gonna have my children with. I like the DNA. I liked, I like his mind. He's a brilliant man. And he is the kindest, I've never felt safer with anyone other than with my mom and daddy.

• 1:16:03Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:16:03Speaker 04

  So, and he didn't care about the show business.

• 1:16:06Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:16:06Speaker 04

  Because this man is brilliant.

• 1:16:08Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:16:09Speaker 04

  He's brilliant and she is emotionally set for life, but she's financially set for life.

• 1:16:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:18Speaker 04

  So.

• 1:16:20Bunnie XO?

  But even before him, she was too.

• 1:16:22Speaker 04

  She was good on her own, not like she is today.

• 1:16:24Bunnie XO?

  Oh, good for her. Well.

• 1:16:26Speaker 04

  But, you know, she, um, she ended up doing the, what is it?

• 1:16:31Speaker 03

  The IVF.

• 1:16:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, she did the IVF.

• 1:16:33Speaker 03

  So they actually had embryos, everything.

• 1:16:35Speaker 04

  And then they leave to go on a cruise, on the Four Seasons Cruise. And she gets sick on the cruise. And she thinks it's because of the motion. And then she says, I haven't had my period in like 10 days. When we, when we dock in Greece, I want to go to a pharmacy. She calls us from Greece, FaceTime. And Julie was in her closet getting dressed. I was brushing my teeth. And she, Julie answered, she goes, hey. And Julie's always, when they call, it's, she's, she lights up, she's like, hey, how is it? And I'm brushing my teeth and she goes, where's dad? And she said, right here. And she said, can you ask him to come in there?

• 1:17:20Speaker 04

  And I walked in and I said, what is it? She said, well, I want to tell you something, but I don't want you to be mad. She said, I said, I'm not gonna be mad. What is it? And she goes, I'm pregnant. And I just screamed.

• 1:17:34Bunnie XO?

  I got goosebumps.

• 1:17:34Speaker 04

  I just screamed because here she had struggled so hard to do this egg retrieval and whatever.

• 1:17:40Bunnie XO?

  Embryo.

• 1:17:41Speaker 04

  Embryo, all this. She had struggled so hard to do that. And here she got pregnant on her own. And so.

• 1:17:48Bunnie XO?

  Look at God.

• 1:17:49Speaker 04

  Look at God. And, you know, we look at it today, and how do you look at a child being born and say that it's wrong? You know, the irony of it is, is you've got all these negative haters on there talking shit. But yet you're sitting here with your fake Christianity, saying you, that you're pro-life. But you're trying to shame a woman that you think is having a child out of wedlock.

• 1:18:14Bunnie XO?

  Yes. Yeah.

• 1:18:15Speaker 04

  That's the hypocrisy of people.

• 1:18:17Bunnie XO?

  They're the same people that say IVF is science and not God.

• 1:18:20Speaker 04

  Well, I like to look at it this way. God gave that man who came up with it enough ingenuity.

• 1:18:25Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:18:26Speaker 04

  For us to do it.

• 1:18:27Bunnie XO?

  It's, it's a, it's a twofer. It's a two for one.

• 1:18:29Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:18:30Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:18:30Speaker 04

  And, you know, if you're, you know, if you're gonna sit here and talk about, you know, you, you don't believe in it, then that's okay. You don't have to believe in it.

• 1:18:39Bunnie XO?

  No, you don't. It's not for you.

• 1:18:41Speaker 04

  But I don't have to believe in you fucking goats.

• 1:18:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Todd, they're not, how do you know they're fucking goats? All right, buddy?

• 1:18:46Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, you just look at some of these basement dwellers.

• 1:18:48Bunnie XO?

  How do you know they can even afford the goats? All right?

• 1:18:50Speaker 04

  Well, they're raping someone else's goats.

• 1:18:54Bunnie XO?

  All right, so let's move on from this really quick because I, I wanna, I wanna be able to get these two topics into. Um, and by the way, congratulations. I'm so excited for you guys. And I meet Savannah. I got to meet Savannah outside of my gym. She was training with my trainer at one time. And she came up to me, she had no makeup on, gym clothes on, and I was like, how are you so beautiful? Like, she really is so gorgeous.

• 1:19:16Speaker 04

  Do you listen to, do you even stop to listen to yourself when you speak? You are constantly reinforcing another woman.

• 1:19:24Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:19:25Speaker 04

  You're constantly giving a compliment to another person.

• 1:19:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:19:29Speaker 04

  That is a soul that is healing.

• 1:19:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:33Speaker 04

  You have to be able to get to that place in life to where you can, to where you can celebrate someone else's goodness.

• 1:19:41Bunnie XO?

  And there's room for everyone. Absolutely.

• 1:19:43Speaker 04

  Not everyone. They some bitches I don't want around me.

• 1:19:45Bunnie XO?

  Our whole team is like that. It's all, it's, I'm all, it's all women except for Jaime, but he's kind of very feminine, so we.

• 1:19:51Speaker 04

  Oh, I get the same shit, buddy.

• 1:19:53Bunnie XO?

  He fits in. Okay, not to put a damper on things because this has been such a great interview. But I have to ask this because it's in the headlines. There's a new tax lien that's going on. Can we talk about this?

• 1:20:05Speaker 04

  Well, we can't because we're suing the government.

• 1:20:08Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:20:08Speaker 04

  Um, and so now we are told it was a clerical error that, not clerical, automated. An automated system thing.

• 1:20:16Bunnie XO?

  That goes public in the news?

• 1:20:18Speaker 04

  Well, it automatically files lanes.

• 1:20:20Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:20:20Speaker 04

  But. Here's the thing, we didn't file to our, people did not file for 23 and 24. We were not, guess what? We were in camp.

• 1:20:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:20:29Bunnie XO?

  You guys weren't making any money.

• 1:20:31Speaker 04

  Yeah. We were in camp.

• 1:20:32Speaker 03

  23, 24.

• 1:20:33Speaker 04

  And so.

• 1:20:34Bunnie XO?

  We were at band camp.

• 1:20:35Speaker 04

  Right, we were back at band camp with no flute. And, or with, in my case, many flutes. But.

• 1:20:41Bunnie XO?

  Skin flutes.

• 1:20:42Speaker 04

  Right, right. But, so, he had not filed those because there wasn't a need yet because there was no income. But, so if you don't file a return, the IRS can go back and look at what you filed the previous year and pull it forward.

• 1:20:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:59Speaker 04

  And say, based on this last return, you need to file your returns on this, or file real numbers. So, they just did that last week, and I think we owe $25,000.

• 1:21:13Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:21:14Speaker 04

  So, we're good, we're good.

• 1:21:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I saw that headline and I was like, they can just not catch a fucking break. Like, what the fuck is going on?

• 1:21:20Speaker 04

  We have caught many breaks, Bunny, and so, we're, we're very blessed, we're in a good place.

• 1:21:24Bunnie XO?

  That makes me happy. Julie, I've been sitting here staring at your face, it's freaking flawless. How old are you?

• 1:21:30Speaker 03

  53.

• 1:21:31Bunnie XO?

  You're 53, I hope I look as good as you at 53.

• 1:21:33Speaker 04

  You can't have shit give you the name.

• 1:21:35Bunnie XO?

  I'm five years away, right, or something like that. Um, you got a facelift, right?

• 1:21:39Speaker 03

  I did.

• 1:21:39Bunnie XO?

  Who did your facelift? Cause it's phenomenal.

• 1:21:41Speaker 03

  Um, Dr. Dino Elioznia, and he is in San Francisco, and he is amazing. So, I am just, when did we have it done?

• 1:21:49Speaker 04

  July the 13th.

• 1:21:50Speaker 03

  July.

• 1:21:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I had mine in March.

• 1:21:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, so.

• 1:21:53Speaker 04

  Now, who did yours?

• 1:21:54Bunnie XO?

  Uh, Dr. Gold in Beverly Hills.

• 1:21:55Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:21:56Speaker 03

  Okay. So, um, yeah, so I'm just a few months out, so I still have some swelling and little, you know.

• 1:22:02Bunnie XO?

  Are you still numb right now?

• 1:22:03Speaker 03

  I am, I am.

• 1:22:04Bunnie XO?

  Cause I'm still numb. Did you do the neck too? What all did you have done?

• 1:22:07Speaker 03

  So, I did a lower, just a lower face and neck lift.

• 1:22:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, okay. I did the whole shaboozle.

• 1:22:12Speaker 03

  You did?

• 1:22:13Bunnie XO?

  I did the whole thing. I'm talking like, upper, lower.

• 1:22:16Speaker 03

  No, I didn't do anything. Well, I, and actually did a lip lift too. So, my lip is still a little.

• 1:22:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:21Speaker 03

  It's not settled in right.

• 1:22:23Bunnie XO?

  I want the lip lift so bad. How do you like it, Todd?

• 1:22:25Speaker 04

  She hates it.

• 1:22:26Speaker 03

  Horrible. It was, and I, I, no, I like it, I like the look of it, but it was the most pain.

• 1:22:31Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:22:32Speaker 03

  Like, as far as like, recovery.

• 1:22:33Bunnie XO?

  Cause it's under your nose.

• 1:22:34Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. So, you're cut all the way under here, and like, that's still numb. Um, so that was the worst part of it, honestly. It wasn't the facelift. I had no pain with the facelift.

• 1:22:43Bunnie XO?

  See, that's crazy, cause I had the most pain with the facelift, and the neck lift, oh my god, I felt like I was being choked and not in a good way.

• 1:22:49Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:22:50Bunnie XO?

  The fucking, it was rough, dude.

• 1:22:52Speaker 03

  Like, I, we had no, um, we had, we weren't bandaged, nothing.

• 1:22:57Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy.

• 1:22:58Speaker 03

  And he did the, um, CO2 laser.

• 1:23:01Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:23:01Speaker 03

  So, you know, of course, that was, that was a pain, just because the first few days, right? You know, you're like, crusty and yuck.

• 1:23:08Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no, mine was, it's been a process, so I'm surprised to hear you say that that was, that was the worst part.

• 1:23:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, but as far as the facelift itself, it wasn't bad at all.

• 1:23:17Speaker 04

  And she literally, Julie has a high tolerance for pain.

• 1:23:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I think all women do.

• 1:23:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, she has a high tolerance for pain. She did not complain one time.

• 1:23:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:27Speaker 04

  Not one time.

• 1:23:28Speaker 03

  It was just.

• 1:23:28Speaker 04

  We were, we were out shopping in San Francisco three days later.

• 1:23:33Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy. So, was it a deep plane facelift? Wow, that's so crazy.

• 1:23:37Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:23:38Speaker 04

  And she does not have a scar.

• 1:23:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, he did really, I, I would definitely recommend him, and if I do anything else, I will use him again, for sure.

• 1:23:47Bunnie XO?

  I'm gonna go look him up, cause I definitely, whenever I'm older, I'm gonna have to get another one, but man, it was the most brutal thing I ever fucking went through. Todd, have you ever had any, uh, plastic surgery?

• 1:23:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, I had mine done the same time she did.

• 1:23:57Bunnie XO?

  Oh, so you had a facelift also? How was your experience?

• 1:24:00Speaker 04

  I had no problem.

• 1:24:01Bunnie XO?

  What the fuck? I, so mine hurts so bad, like, I tell everybody, I'm like, this is the fucking worst thing you'll ever go through, like.

• 1:24:08Speaker 04

  I had, I had zero problem, no scarring, I mean, literally zero scar. Um, you know, he had said initially, cause I had always kept up with mine way more than Julie had. Because I was a slave to la, to laser.

• 1:24:22Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:24:22Speaker 04

  When a new laser came out, I went and had the laser done.

• 1:24:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:25Speaker 04

  And Julie, because she said it hurts, she wouldn't do it.

• 1:24:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, laser hurts to me.

• 1:24:29Speaker 04

  But I think I've been fried so much, that I'm just kinda numb to it.

• 1:24:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:33Speaker 04

  And so, I would always go, I would always go twice a year and have the laser resurfacing done. And so, Julie was talking, she's, I, I wanna have this done, I wanna have this done. And I said, well, then I'll go in with you. And she goes, but you don't need it. And no one, no one knows that I've done this. You're the only one that knows this just now.

• 1:24:49Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:24:50Speaker 04

  You're the only one that knows this just now.

• 1:24:51Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I got the tea, baby.

• 1:24:53Speaker 04

  And so, no one has not, no one has known about it, but, and we've not even brought it out on our podcast.

• 1:24:59Bunnie XO?

  Wow, why didn't you talk about it?

• 1:25:00Speaker 04

  Well, we're gonna do it next week.

• 1:25:01Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 1:25:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're gonna do it next week, but I don't give a shit. Um, but, at any rate, I had no problems with it. We were, we were three days later, shopping in San Francisco.

• 1:25:12Speaker 03

  We stayed there for like, nine days.

• 1:25:14Speaker 04

  We stayed at the Four Seasons and walked to our doctor's appointment every day.

• 1:25:17Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:25:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, cause, uh, you did have to stay there for a week, uh, because you had drains, right? So, you had to keep the drains in for a week. And that was, uh, you know.

• 1:25:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:27Speaker 03

  But, other than that.

• 1:25:28Speaker 04

  We both still have residual swelling, which he has said, I think we've got about.

• 1:25:32Bunnie XO?

  Up to a year.

• 1:25:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, they've said that we've still got 30 to 40% swelling. And, um, but he was great. I mean, we had zero complication. She went in first, cause if he fucked her up, I wasn't doing it. Um, but.

• 1:25:47Bunnie XO?

  Poor Julie.

• 1:25:48Speaker 04

  She's the one that wanted to go down this road, so I agreed to go with her, but I did not agree to go first.

• 1:25:52Speaker 03

  That's okay, that's okay.

• 1:25:54Bunnie XO?

  I love that you guys did it together, though.

• 1:25:56Speaker 03

  I, I went in one day, and Dino, and Todd went in the next.

• 1:26:00Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love that. Chachi, come here. Alright, we're about to, we're about to.

• 1:26:05Speaker 04

  What's his name, Chachi?

• 1:26:05Bunnie XO?

  Chachi.

• 1:26:06Speaker 04

  You know, that's my friend Scott Baio's name from Happy Days.

• 1:26:09Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody says that. They're like, did you name him after, uh, Happy Days? And I'm like, no. His real name is Croce, after Jim Croce, the musician, but nobody could pronounce Croce, so it just turned into Chachi, and it's been like that for the past eight years. Alright, last thing, let's circle back to your diss track.

• 1:26:26Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:26:26Bunnie XO?

  Are there gonna be more? Because this one is fabulous.

• 1:26:29Speaker 04

  It just depends on if you piss me off.

• 1:26:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:31Speaker 04

  Because that song was written, um, because of someone calling my granddaughter, my daughter Chloe, a racial slur.

• 1:26:40Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:26:41Speaker 04

  And it was someone that I went to school with, and, in, in high school, and when that was brought to my attention, why would you go after a child?

• 1:26:51Bunnie XO?

  People are sick.

• 1:26:53Speaker 04

  And, so, when that was brought to my attention, I, Bunny, I swear to you, for a week, I try, I try, tried to contain it, did I not? Did I not sit on it?

• 1:27:05Speaker 03

  But I said, you don't need to talk about her child, because they talked about yours.

• 1:27:09Speaker 04

  Nah, bitch. You come after one of mine, and you got an ugly, your child better be gorgeous, they better be smart, working three jobs, and ain't got nothing in their past.

• 1:27:21Bunnie XO?

  Gloves off, baby.

• 1:27:22Speaker 04

  Cause I'm dragging that shit out.

• 1:27:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you don't attack children. I, I fully believe that if you get in the ring.

• 1:27:27Speaker 04

  Do not fuck with my kids. Me? Come on. Walked over, limp back. But, don't come after my kids.

• 1:27:34Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:27:34Speaker 04

  And to say that about someone who's 13 years old, that's a tough time for a little girl anyway.

• 1:27:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:27:39Speaker 04

  And to say that about a little girl, and you got a bull dagger diet for a daughter? Nah, bitch.

• 1:27:47Bunnie XO?

  I gotta say, you and the music video, I was telling them, and this is no disrespect to you, cause I, I have a thing for rappers, obviously, and musicians. I was like, dude, Todd's hot. I was like, this is hot. I was like, he might be my new house. I told them that today.

• 1:28:01Speaker 04

  Now, see, Bunny says that.

• 1:28:03Bunnie XO?

  Cause it was like, he was aggressive.

• 1:28:04Speaker 04

  Bunny recognizes that tripod. She make, she recognizes.

• 1:28:09Bunnie XO?

  I knew it was a two-hander, alright?

• 1:28:11Speaker 03

  She's a 24-year-old.

• 1:28:13Speaker 04

  That's alright, he can prime.

• 1:28:15Bunnie XO?

  And he is, he is.

• 1:28:17Speaker 04

  He can prime, and I can finish.

• 1:28:19Bunnie XO?

  Oh, god. Well, we are looking for a third Todd, so.

• 1:28:24Bunnie XO?

  You guys, thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. I absolutely love you guys. You guys are beautiful souls, and please, anytime you wanna come back, come sit on my couch, it's always open for you guys.

• 1:28:35Speaker 04

  Thank you, we love you.

• 1:28:36Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:28:36Bunnie XO?

  Thank you guys for tuning into another episode of Don Blonde. Also, I'm gonna be on their podcast, so make sure you stay tuned for that and keep an eye out for that. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.

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