Trump's HEATED Call + AOC's Data Center Deep Dive | PBD #804

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, Ilan Srulovicz and Vincent Oshana break down Trump’s heated call with Netanyahu, Reza Pahlavi calling out Trump, Raul Castro’s indictment, SpaceX’s blockbuster IPO, Zuckerberg’s leaked audio, Jeff Bezos blasting Zohran Mamdani, AOC’s attack on AI data centers, and the San Diego mosque shooting. ------ 🧢 FAITH OVER FEAR "HERE AM I, SEND ME" HAT: https://bit.ly/4tLSTw9 💬 TEXT US: Text “VAULT” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates on speakers at The Vault Conference 2026! 🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠

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• 0:13Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:18Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 0:19Speaker 00

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, you know what I love? I love when we get unique gifts of somebody that pays attention to the podcast. So here's a gift I got from a fellow named Ben. Ben, uh, you hung out with, with, uh, Adam. You know, Adam's famous. He wants to give everybody a shout out. So Adam, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna give him a little bit of love.

• 0:41Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 0:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But I just tell you, I love this thing you sent and you said, Brooklyn can climb the palm trees at our club anytime she wants. And you send this little 3D thing, which that's an inside joke. Shout out to Coral Ridge, uh, yacht club that they don't allow little kids to mess with palm trees. But appreciate that little gift. Guys, a lot of stuff is going on. I don't know if you know this or not, or Vinnie, but yesterday was a busy day. There was this guy who was not happy about what happened yesterday, the last couple of days.

• 1:07Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You know how you, like, who do you like to go to a baseball game with? Be honest.

• 1:11Speaker 03

  Who I like to go?

• 1:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Who do you like to go to a baseball game with?

• 1:12Speaker 03

  People like you that like the team that I'm rooting for, people that love the game.

• 1:16Patrick Bet-David?

  What game did we go to recently? The World, so like we went to, uh...

• 1:18Speaker 03

  Oh, the, the, the world national...

• 1:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Who played who? Dominican Republic against?

• 1:22Speaker 03

  Venezuela?

• 1:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Juan Soto hit a homerun, you know, Guerrero hit a homerun. It was just sick, right?

• 1:27Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't you love going to games with people you love?

• 1:30Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 1:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why the last couple of days was bad?

• 1:32Speaker 03

  Why?

• 1:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Barack Obama can no longer go to baseball games with Raul Castro.

• 1:35Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:36Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 1:37Speaker 03

  His buddy?

• 1:38Patrick Bet-David?

  He's devastated because they would go to games together like communism. And now Raul Castro from Cuba got indicted.

• 1:44Speaker 03

  Dude.

• 1:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think that's cool because, listen, there is something special about you going... You know how you're sitting there like, hey, pass the hot dog?

• 1:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, hey, tell me how much you love about taxing everybody, right? And making sure everybody's poor. Isn't it great?

• 1:56Speaker 03

  It's the best.

• 1:57Patrick Bet-David?

  He loves that. Obama can't do that anymore, unfortunately, on behalf of the DOJ and FBI who's going after Raul Castro.

• 2:02Speaker 03

  Like a baseball game, a pack of Salem's, talking about imprisoning conservatives, you know?

• 2:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:07Speaker 03

  Now what's he gonna do now?

• 2:08Patrick Bet-David?

  That's behind him. So now, then, yesterday, a recording leaks from Zuck. That is telling the engineers, hey, we want you to keep coding so the AI can learn how good your coding, so we no longer need you. But in return, to be fair, which Tom said it, in return, those people to share their skills with the skill set, got something that they obviously agreed to because long-term they can make a lot of money. I let Tom reveal that to us in a few minutes when we get into it. Yesterday SpaceX, you know, IPO, there's a South African guy that apparently is, once this thing is done, will be the first official trillionaire in the world, causing Bernie Sanders to change the script.

• 2:52Patrick Bet-David?

  It's no longer millionaires and billionaires, he has to now say billionaires and trillionaires. By the way, that's coming to a Singular. Hearing near you on what's going to be happening, but we predicted this four and a half years ago, that Elon's going to be the first trillionaire in the next two to five years. And we are here now, folks. We have a trillionaire in the world. I think a lot of other people are behind the corner. Guy named Bezos did an interview, we talked about it a couple of days ago, even yesterday with Steve Hilton. I think Bezos either has gotten so good with the camera, he absolutely crushed this interview with common sense. We can literally watch every single clip, whether how he broke down firing the people at Washington Post. It's a clinic on how a CEO should handle criticism and firing people.

• 3:36Patrick Bet-David?

  The way he went one by one by one by one by one, fantastic. We'll cover that as well. It's funny, one trillionaire and the other guy soon to be one, maybe soon to be one. He's got some work to do, but he's also doing his thing. You know, he's probably benching three plates at least eight times. What do you think? You think Bezos can bench three plates eight times? I think that TRT is doing a It's doing really good. Maybe it's a little bit more than TRT, maybe there's a little bit of GH, maybe there's a little bit of Primo Ballin. I think he's doing some stuff there, he's looking good. There was this phone call. And, and I don't know if I should even show this, it's There was a podcast done between Bibi and Trump. Okay, so that's, I don't want to show that.

• 4:11Speaker 03

  You have to because nobody's, nobody knows that they did it.

• 4:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not showing that. But what I will show, I'm not gonna show that. But what I will, and I don't want people to, because it's gonna be, it's gonna be a lot of stories that's gonna be circulating. I'm gonna, there was a phone call between Bibi and Trump that things got testy. That Bibi said, now listen, anytime somebody says something like this, I am 50/50. Where it's like, look, if you don't attack first, they're gonna attack first. Give me a flipping break. But that's what Bibi said. Bibi said, hey, Trump, if you don't attack first, Iran is gonna attack first because our intel's telling us, telling us that. So you have two camps when somebody says something like, the one side is what? Okay, maybe they have intel, let's attack. What's the other camp? It's like, hey, Vinny, you know what she said about you?

• 4:57Speaker 03

  What?

• 4:59Patrick Bet-David?

  She said, I don't want to say what she said about you. Let me tell you what she said about you.

• 5:02Speaker 03

  Was it good or bad?

• 5:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Horrible.

• 5:03Speaker 03

  What?

• 5:03Patrick Bet-David?

  If she would've said that to my face, I would've slapped her. That's the kind of a phone call.

• 5:07Speaker 03

  Got it.

• 5:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So now you have to either believe that she did say that, or you have to slap her. Okay?

• 5:12Speaker 03

  Like Sean Connery said, you sometimes you slap.

• 5:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. Like, sometimes you gotta do it, right? So now, next, the Iran war powers vote, okay? Where they came out and said, listen, whether you like it or not, we're taking the, you know, the nuclear uranium enrichment. We're taking that away from you. Whether you like it or not, we're gonna take it away from you. And Iran comes back and says, Trump's threat is, you better do something or else. He says, Trump's not gonna do anything. That's what Iran is saying. I mean, that's like talking shit right there, right? You're not gonna do nothing is the kind of situation they're at there. We'll see what happens. SoftBank surges 30%. OpenAI, Tom's got some insight on how Japan is now taking control of some of the bigger companies of what they're investing in. We'll talk about that. Ilhan Omar and Amy Bach, B-O-C-K, Amy Bach, great name.

• 6:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, she is facing, how many months did you say? 512 months or some? 500. Now, why do they say it like that? Why can't you? Because, isn't it? So you can't say 42 years? Like, you want to scare him? I'm gonna put you in prison for 3,790 days. Just say 10 years. Yeah. Why don't you just say 42 years? 500 months, Vinny, is what they got. And Ilhan Omar had nothing to say about it. Tim Walz was hiding. And Nick Shirley, a little 22-year-old innocent guy that just going out there asking questions, is causing people to resign, quit, and get fired and go to prison. Weird. Can you imagine that? But what he does is not effective. No. What he does is not effective. He's not a journalist. And he's not a reporter. Not a snitch. He's not a snitch.

• 6:43Speaker 04

  But I'm not a snitch.

• 6:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Not a snitch. Yeah. Right, so, okay. And then we got, uh, uh, I don't know if we want to go into the Thomas Massey story. It is what it is. Maybe we will. Uh, uh, and then we got, uh, Hunter Biden did a podcast with Candace. There's a clip that he finally, Rob, admits that the laptop is real, but the cocaine's not. He would, he would never touch cocaine. I'm a crack guy. I'm not, you know, he's not a cocaine guy, right? He says, "I don't touch cocaine. I touch crack." We may get into it. And then, uh, Kyle Busch, out of nowhere, we hear the news. One of the most exciting drivers at 41 years old. Are you kidding me? Goes into the hospital. Nobody knows. There's a bunch of different speculations. Nothing crazy, nothing out of the ordinary. But just that's it. And Rob has a clip that we have to play on him saying, "You never know which one's gonna be your last race."

• 7:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And we literally never know what's our last day of doing anything. That's why we gotta be grateful and do the best with what we have. And then we have to talk about Reza Shah Pahlavi from Iran. Made a comment. Little bit of a shot at, uh, the president. Little bit of a shot. It seems like he's getting frustrated because this regime change and regime collapse is not happening. And he's now getting upset at Trump. And I don't know if that's a good strategy. I don't know if that's a good strategy, but that's a strategy he's taking. He's almost making it very clear that Trump's not gonna do anything with him. But what I do not like on what they said. Bunch of pansies, FIFA. That they don't allow Iran's flag from back in the days under Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. The father, the OG, the guy.

• 8:13Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not allowing people from Iran to bring that flag to the match at World Cup. I don't like that move. I don't like that move at all. If I want to bring that flag, allow me to bring that flag. Uh, but they're not allowing that to happen, which I get, you know, you're trying to not make it political. You don't want to create controversy and chaos. Fully get it. They're making responsible decisions. The flag is banned? The flag, the previous flag of Iran that the Shah had, they're not allowing to bring. So what, how do they get enforced that?

• 8:37Speaker 05

  They just won't let, they'll kick you out.

• 8:39Patrick Bet-David?

  If you put it up here, give it to me, I'm going to take it away from you. They're going to bring it, Pat. Well, listen.

• 8:43Speaker 05

  That's the move, by the way.

• 8:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Let, I'm, I'm part of the community of let the boy watch, you know, let, let, I'm part of the plums, right? Bring the flag, right? Bring the flags, but. Please bring those flags. We'll talk about that and then, uh, we never got into the Jake Paul, Dana White, Ronda Rousey, Gina Carano, Netflix, the numbers, record breaking. We have to address that. Elon's going to talk about that. I got some thoughts on that as well. AOC decides to go to data centers and she is indirectly converting some conservatives into her fans. And I keep talking about it. Hey, don't, don't rule her out as somebody running for president in 2028. And then we of course have to talk about the San Diego shooter and a manifesto that they wrote. What a weird set of stories there.

• 9:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 9:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Devastating. You go to a mosque and you shoot innocent people and then you read the manifesto and it says what they're all about. What a weird set of events that took place there, uh, on the things that they're doing. So we'll address that as well. I know Vinnie, Elon, you guys have some insight on that. And then we got a few other stories. Godwin, we'll get into it. It is a Friday, so we'll have some time. But with that being said, we got something special. Let me tell you guys before I turn it over to a guy that you guys all love. Uh, according to the survey we did, I, you guys love him so much, but I don't know if you love him that much yet. And I'll tell you afterwards why, and I got a challenge for everybody, but I do know you love him a lot. Last time we did a hat that came out, faith over fear. Do you know how many complaints we got? Because it was hat that we ordered less than a thousand.

• 10:07Patrick Bet-David?

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• 10:24Speaker 03

  So Pat, it's the hat that I'm wearing right now, which I'm gonna tell you guys right now, it's here am I, send me, has a cross here, has our.

• 10:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to take it off so they can see the cross on the side and what's on the back?

• 10:33Speaker 03

  I'll do it like this, boom, I'll take it off, my hair's a little bit messed up, Isaiah, chapter 6, verse 8 in the back. Pat, the inspiration comes from Isaiah, chapter 6, 8, and I know Tom knows this. Isaiah hears the Lord speaking and he's asking for volunteers, like who's gonna go and talk to the people and tell them to change their ways? And Isaiah steps up, and this is what he says, he has, and I heard the voice of the Lord saying, whom shall I send and who will go for us? And then I said, here am I, send me. And this is what this hat stands for, Pat, it stands for answering the call. In a world where everybody stays quiet to protect themselves, this means you are willing to stand up for your faith, for your values and the truth.

• 11:13Speaker 03

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• 11:58Speaker 03

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• 13:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And guess what he has on the bottom of? No way. He's wearing Future Looks Bright. That is sick. So whether it's faith over fear. Whether it's here I here am I send me. Whether it's future looks bright. I love the fact that the audience is finding each other all around the world. With that being said, let's get right into it. Trump and Bibi phone call gets testy. What does that mean? What does that mean it gets testy? Rob, I think you got a couple of clips on that one there, but I'm going to go to page eight first. So, and this is not a phone call from the Daily Mail. This is not an article from the Inquirer. This is an article from Wall Street Journal. What do you mean Trump and Netanyahu hold a testy call over Iran?

• 13:43Patrick Bet-David?

  President Trump and Bibi held a contentious call Tuesday evening. People familiar with the matter said with Netanyahu railing against a pact to end the war with Iran. And Trump defending the diplomatic process. Israel has long expressed skepticism that Iran would abide by any agreement to dismantle its nuclear work and refrain from attacks on regional nations. Netanyahu reiterated those points with Trump in a Tuesday call and an earlier one on Sunday. The people said Trump was unconvinced telling Netanyahu he would continue to pursue an accord that prevents Iran from ever acquiring a nuclear weapon. Trump added that Iran faced fresh strikes if it did not show more flexibility in the talks. Rob, is this the recording? No, this is actually.

• 14:27Patrick Bet-David?

  President Trump being asked about the call. Okay, go for it. Go ahead.

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• 15:44Speaker 04

  What did you say to President Trump about Iran and how long is it going to go? He's fine. He'll do whatever I want him to do. He's a very good man. He'll do whatever I want him to do, and he's a great guy. To me, he's a great guy. Don't forget, he was a wartime prime minister. And he's not treated right in Israel, in my opinion. I'm right now at 99% in Israel. I could run for prime minister, so maybe after I do this, I'll go to Israel, run for prime minister.

• 16:17Speaker 04

  I didn't see this.

• 16:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But, uh, no, he's a wartime prime minister and I just don't think they treat him well. Okay, so I'll continue here. Speaking to reporters, when they say Netanyahu won't vote for Trump, asked later when he was close to making a decision on Iran, he replied, "It's right on the borderline. We have to get the right answers. It would have been a complete 100% good answers." There have been a flurry of high-level diplomatic activity this week between mediators, including Pakistan. So anyways, you see something like that, Elon, what do you think about?

• 16:46Speaker 05

  Uh, number one, I do think if I'm just gonna look at this objectively from Netanyahu's standpoint, I do think that he sees this as one of the last-ditch attempts to be able to have the United States back them in a heavy, uh, you know, act in Iran. Because after Trump, it's game over for that kind of involvement. I do think that Trump does have a lot of influence over Netanyahu. Regardless of what people say, he's demonstrated his ability to taper him back when necessary. Um, Trump's in a, in a pretty hard place with this. When this all started, I really, really believed, even selfishly, biasly, that regime change could happen. That was like my dream for this. That's off the table for me in my mind now. And I think Trump sees the reality of the situation. Sometimes you go into a situation wanting one thing, you come out realizing a victory is something

• 17:30Speaker 05

  completely different. I think Trump does see that a victory in this situation is something like a long-term, um, you know, limitation on Iran's ability to be nuclear. The destabilization, if you look at the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Middle East has a totally different...

• 17:45Patrick Bet-David?

  The 20 years, because he said he's open to the 20 years. I don't know if you saw that or not. He's open to a 20-year where they're not dealing with anything with nuclear for 20 years.

• 17:55Speaker 05

  Well, the question is, will Iran actually abide by anything like that? And the truth is that most likely they won't, but at least there'll be some degree if you can put the measures in place to be able to monitor. It'll be a much safer Middle East than it is now. I think Trump is playing a very, very, very tightrope balancing act between appearing strong enough to not appear weak, but also not drive us into a full-scale conflict, also while appealing to people who are pro-Israel, but also appealing to isolationist and populist.

• 18:22Speaker 03

  And then when you say, Elon, um, you know, because we thought this, we thought regime change, remember the New York Times article? They said that they were in the room and Bibi and Mossad was on, you know, Zoom or whatever. And that when they left, they said that this is like, they warned the president. This is what Israel does. They, they oversell and under deliver. So I think he was in there and, you know, he was told it'll be quick, it'll be Venezuela. And, you know, he believes the people around him, the people that want the best for him. But I think in this situation, Trump, and it's frustrating, Pat, because I think Trump is trying to prevent this thing to keep going and going and going. But Bibi wants more escalation. If you think about it too, negotiators are, are, are getting killed. Um, you know, and Trump's trying to figure out a path for the deal. But here's my thing.

• 19:04Speaker 03

  What else does Bibi want? I know we were talking about, you know, getting rid of, um, the plutonium or whatever. Uranium. The uranium, whatever that, whatever's going on. But like, what else does Bibi want? What else? We, bro, their navy's at the bottom of the, of the sea. Their nuclear capabilities decimated, the infrastructure's hammered. We keep killing all the leadership and the only thing that bothers me, Pat, is the relationship that we have with Israel. They're saying, come on, come on, do it. If they do go strike, what do we do? We have to back them. That's what we've, it's, it's, history repeats itself. We keep going. If they do something, we back them. So I, I, I love the fact that he's obviously arguing and pushing back and saying like, bro, like, relax. Can we have a freaking peace deal? Because what's the objective? And I love that you said that. There is going to be no regime change.

• 19:46Speaker 03

  They're killing us on the freaking Strait of Hormuz. It's like, bro, we want this thing to wrap up and hurry up in finish.

• 19:51Speaker 04

  So, um, I disagree a little bit with Vinnie on one thing. Uh, the advisors are around Trump. I don't think they want what's, what's best for him. Um, I don't think they want it all. I think the warhawks want war and they want what they want for the military industrial complex. I think foreign lobbyists and Israel wants what Israel wanted. And I think a lot of people were in that room and it got pushed and I don't think he got good advice. I don't think he got good advice at all because all you do is look at it. Okay. The plan for the war, what happens, step one, step two, step three, what, what actually happened? So either the advisors were wrong or we got beat. I don't think we got beat. I think the advisors were wrong. Second, you know, the, the one thing that I look at is if all the things we talk about are true.

• 20:35Speaker 04

  Oh, we've decimated this, we've, there are navies at the bottom of the sea, they're under this. Why isn't there a deal? If we've really got them all the way by the throat, down on the, down on the floor, why didn't they tap out? Why didn't they take a deal? And now we've entered the world of, a world I don't like. Well, at least, put that in quotes and look at how many times that's going to be said over the next three weeks. Well, at least they don't have it for 20 years. Well, at least they give up, you know, maybe the rocket boosters. Well, at least China's no longer giving them rocket fuel. You just wait. That's what we're going to get because that is a sign of backing off on where this is going to be. And the thing that bugs me is, is how this shifted. First we said, hey, I see you there.

• 21:18Speaker 04

  Don't hang those three boys. Don't do it. That's a red line for me. I've, and help is on the way. Then it was, well, they have nuclear ambitions and within a couple of weeks they could have a nuclear weapon and we don't want that. And it shifted. So there was a speech about the people, then we shifted there. And now I sit back, who's talking about the people?

• 21:39Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 21:39Speaker 04

  Who?

• 21:39Speaker 03

  Nobody's talking about.

• 21:40Speaker 04

  The IRGC is going to commit political genocide. They are going to go for their enemies. They're going to imprison them. People are going to die. And, and tell me that these people waited 47 years for this?

• 21:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:55Speaker 04

  That, that disappoints me terribly.

• 21:57Speaker 03

  And Pat, not to, not to, you, may I? And I'm not saying, Tom, the advisors that I was talking about was Pete Hegseth was in there, General Kane, Rubio and John Ratcliffe had, had a CIA, were trying to tell him like, hey, listen, you know, weigh your options, but we still did it. That must, those are the advisors that I was talking about.

• 22:13Speaker 04

  Do all, did all of those say this?

• 22:14Speaker 03

  And the New York Times article said that they did.

• 22:17Speaker 04

  All of those ones you just listed?

• 22:18Speaker 03

  Yes, I could.

• 22:19Speaker 04

  Rubio and Hegseth both said, you know, be careful about this. Maybe we don't want to do this?

• 22:24Speaker 03

  Yes. And General Kane said something as well. I'll, I'll find out the direct quotes.

• 22:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So here, here's what I've read and heard about this. In a situation like this, guys, let's face it. It's not everybody saying, let's go to war and everybody saying, don't go to war.

• 22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  We're sitting here talking about issues and we don't agree on all issues. So hey, what do you think we should do? And then you make the decision. He made the decision. The president made the decision based on the information that he had. So the onus is on the leader that made the decision and he has no problem with it. He'll live with the decision. And don't forget what word he used as everything was taking place. What is the most important word he used in war or any of the other issues? It's a word that starts with the letter F. He says, "We're gonna stay fluid." Very, very simple. Everything's gonna be fluid. Maybe we'll do it this way on this one. Maybe we'll do it this way on this one. And by the way, sometimes you attack and then things are not where you expect it to be and then you have to adjust and pivot. That's what leaders have to do in life. It's not like every time it's gonna be the same thing.

• 23:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, here's how I'm gonna handle this situation. So I, I don't know. But what I do know is if you notice the way he talked, he's so good at doing this. Where he say, "Yeah, he's gonna do whatever I tell him to do, whatever I tell him to do, he's gonna do." But at the same time, guess what? He's a great guy. Remember, he's a wartime leader. He's gonna do whatever I tell him. Matter of fact, if I'm done with this, if I go to Israel and I run, I would become the prime minister. Look at the way he makes sure the world knows, "I'm the..." You know, head, you know what? In charge. I'm the guy that's running this. I'm the guy that's running the show here. Go ahead, Adam. Bingo. You know, I, I have not been following all the nuance of the day to day. The hormones, I mean, you'll drive yourself crazy with that. But the last thing you said is exactly where I would have started.

• 24:04Patrick Bet-David?

  The first thing you said, it goes, "He'll do whatever I want." Straight up. I laughed out loud because I saw the, the humor in it. I saw the realness in it. I saw the, the chiding, the, "Oh no, you, yeah, you think Bibi owns me? Are you kidding me?" Kind of flex. And, "Yeah, I'll do whatever I want." Now, granted, Israel and US are on the same team. They're allies, correct? Is that a, is that a controversial statement these days? They're allies. They have different interests in the region. Don't forget, America wants...

• 24:36Speaker 04

  To get in and out of this asshole country, forgive me, and move on to China, China pivot. Hello, we know that. He just literally went to China. But Israel has to stay in that region. UAE has to stay in that region. Saudi has to stay in the region. All these neighbors Kuwait, they're the ones telling, asking Trump, don't, don't start doing epic fury. Keep the economic fury. But here's where I want to go, big picture, and I'll go super quick. Bibi gave an interview about a week ago. I don't know if we addressed it on the podcast. An hour and a half real interview. And here's what I took from it. So for all the Israel haters, like, what's the number one thing you hear?

• 25:18Speaker 04

  We've got to stop funding Israel. We have to stop funding. Bibi goes, yeah, sure. Let's do it.

• 25:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, 10 year plan.

• 25:24Speaker 04

  Deal. Because it's 3.8 billion dollars a year that, and I'm not going to get too nuanced here, about

• 25:30Patrick Bet-David?

  80% you buy back weapons from us.

• 25:32Speaker 04

  It's weapon buyback, guys. That's all it is.

• 25:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure.

• 25:34Speaker 04

  He said, sure, we don't need it anymore. By the way, he also said, whether you like it or not now, since October 7th, praise for impact, Israel is the now most powerful, richest country per capita in the Middle East, and it's not even close. The innovation, the tech, the defense, the entrepreneurism, the startup culture, it's crazy what they've done there. I mean, juxtapose that what's going, ever's going on with countries that only have oil or don't even have anything, including oil. But the last thing I'll say is this, Trump is in no rush to do a deal. And this is where you and I sort of disagreed. You said June 14th. I said, probably after July, three months, it's not a big disagreement. But I think Trump, at the end of the day, you've used this term before, he's kind of floating at this point. He's kind of like, he knows what he's

• 26:19Speaker 04

  doing. He's been doing this 10 years. He's not going to get caught up in the headlines, and he knows exactly where he stands.

• 26:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is this the clip on him talking about Iran cannot have enriched uranium?

• 26:28Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 26:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob. Can they keep their highly enriched uranium? No, no, we get the highly enriched, we will get it. We don't need it, we don't want it, we'll probably destroy it after we get it, but we're not gonna let them have it. Yeah, there you go. So that's kind of what his position is there. And by the way, while this is taking place, Reza Pahlavi, who's been sitting on the sidelines, waiting for a regime change or regime collapse so he can come in and be the transitional leader. And I've never seen him talk like this about the president, but he showed a little bit of emotions here and running out of patience. Go ahead, Rob, if you want to play this clip.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  They are not sending mixed signals. On the one hand, said people need to rise, and at the same time say, wait, we are negotiating. It's confusing the hell out of everyone. Do you want to see US boots on the ground at this point? I think that the best way to articulate this is to say that, and that's something that we have said, that the boots on the ground in Iran are the Iranian people themselves. We don't need to have foreign troops doing the job for us. But in order for people to be emboldened and have a fair fighting chance, unlike what happened in January 8th and 9th when they were massacred to the tune of over 40,000 people in less than 48 hours, how could you expect the people to be the elements on the ground if they don't get the appropriate protection or cover?

• 27:49Speaker 03

  We can only call to this action by people being on the streets again when they have that level of an equal fighting chance, not while the regime can deploy their thugs to murder people on the streets. That's why we needed to have the air campaign. That's why we needed to have the aerial protection. And I think that's where you can generate the element on the grounds that will not require...

• 28:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's the question, you can pause it right there. You can pause it right there. It's like, hey, you can't say, you know, go back to it again, Rob, go back to the first part of what he said, exactly the first part on what he said, if you have the clip. You can play the first 10 seconds. Uh, go ahead.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  They are not sending mixed signals. On the one hand, said people need to rise, and at the same time say, wait, we are negotiating.

• 28:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It's confusing the hell out of everyone. Okay, pause it right there. It's confusing the hell out of everyone. Who are you talking to? Mm-hmm. You're talking to Trump. Okay. What authority do you have? Mm-hmm.

• 28:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what authority do you have?

• 28:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, I've sat on the sidelines, hoping for you, and I've not been critical. I've sat on the sidelines to see what's gonna happen. How come no military leaders are, you know, choosing to side with you? Why not? So you say you don't need US, cuz the boots on the ground are the Iranian people who are getting slaughtered, and the internet's been out. What did Wall Street Journal say yesterday? More than any other country.

• 29:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Longest in the history where the internet's been out. Where's that?

• 29:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, longest in history.

• 29:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so, uh, uh, can you, can you go to that story? Longest internet blackout in the history, crippling Iran's economy. Why can't you call Elon and ask for Starlink? Why can't you, where's your diplomacy? Maybe you're not good at building relationships with people. Maybe you are. I don't know. Well, how connected are you? You know, are, are the military guys looking at you and saying, "That's our leader. We don't need Trump. I will convert, and I'm gonna go help raise up Palavia." How come that's not happening? How long have you had so far? How long? I don't know. So to me, when you give, when you say mixed signals with the president, what he's doing,

• 29:57Patrick Bet-David?

  the audience who is supporting you, what mixed signals are you giving? You keep saying you got military people on your side. Where are they? Where are they? Go ahead. People come into streets, they're like, "Well, you know, is there any way you and, you can, you can unite and back him up?" I'm like, "I've been quiet. I just want him to go do his thing." Listen, I'll celebrate it and say, "Kudos to you." And we'll put a nice picture and say, "Hey, he's the guy that got the job done." But where is your military guys showing up for you? Why not? Why are they not showing up for you? I thought you were connected. Forty-seven years you've had. Every few years, this is the closest you've ever been. Do it without the president. Do without the president. You claim you don't need the president's help. Go ahead, do it. We're all waiting.

• 30:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, we'll root for you. How come it's not happening? So what do you mean? You can, it's confusing as hell. It's confusing as hell to your audience. Who are you to say it's confusing as hell with the president? What the hell are you doing? So no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a fan of saying it's confusing as hell. Your audience should be confused as hell on all the promises you made. Go on the streets, now go back home. Go on the streets again, now go back home. Go on the streets, we have military defectors that are turning in, they're gonna come in. Where are they? Where are the defectors? Show me. Show me the baby. Where are the defectors? Okay? Your story.

• 31:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Your confidence, you're going out there to media saying, they're gonna do this, we don't need the president, all this other stuff. Fantastic, cuz this becomes two different things. What Trump is doing is what's best for America. That's his job. That's his duty. His job isn't what's best for you. His job isn't what's best for any other people than America first. He's trying to do what's best for America. Now, the secondary is what? Of course, he doesn't want issues in the Middle East. He would like there to not have that kind of an issue that they're dealing with. But ninety percent of the onus is on you now. We've been following, people are like, Pat, just leave this one alone. Leave this one alone. Let, we know what we're doing. Where is it? Where is it? Go ahead.

• 32:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you know, you, you gotta be more patient. The Iranian people that follow Reza Pahlavi have got to be the most patient people in the world. You've been waiting for forty-seven years. I don't have that kind of patience. Good for you. No, no, he's the guy, he's this, he's that. Where is the doing? The doing. Not the talking, the doing. So yes, these are two different, separate issues, you know. Trump's gotta do what's best for America first. You claim you wanna do what's best for Iran first. Well, then go do it. We're waiting, we're rooting for you, we're like, come on. Watch your interviews, you know, beautiful interviews and French and all these other languages that you speak and very eloquent on the way you deliver your message.

• 32:50Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know when somebody says, "What did you say? Let me, let me call my cousin. You're not gonna like it when my cousin shows up." And then cousin doesn't show up for one week, two weeks, three weeks, four weeks. Your cousin doesn't have your back. And then another person says, "What did you say? Wait till my cousin shows up." Thirty seconds later cousin shows up, you're like, "Dude, I'm sorry, man. I never wanted to say anything." I fought both types of people. Okay? And the one that the cousin shows up, you always respect. Where are your cousins? Where are your cousins? Why are they not showing up? In the streets of Iran? To help these forty something people that were massacred? That's on Trump or is on you? It's kinda on you. I want to be the transitional leader. It's on you.

• 33:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, this leads me to, many Iranians want to bring the previous flag of Iran. Pre-revolution. They do. And Rob, do you see that story? Where now FIFA World Cup is saying you can't. You can't bring the flag. You know, you can't sport that flag. What do you mean you can't sport the flag? Well, they just announced it. And, and what page is this, Rob? Thirty something? Pre-revolution Iran flags banned from the World Cup. That right there. Let me give you a guarantee of how Iranian people are. Let me tell you how Iranian people are. They're gonna show up no matter what. They're gonna show up no matter what. Don't get me wrong, security's gonna, you can hide the flag in your underwear. You can hide the flag. They're gonna try to bring, it's gonna be a very small flag if you hide it in your underwear, right?

• 34:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Because if you got like stacked, like they're gonna be like, "Hey, is this guy in the adult entertainment business?" They're gonna check you out.

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• 36:08Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me tell you, flags from pre-revolutionary Iran will not be permitted at the upcoming World Cup events this summer. While the pre-revolutionary Iran flag share the same colors as the current Islamic flag, the original flag beloved by Iranian dissidents and refugees prominently features a lion and a sun in the center following the 1979 Iranian revolution. According to The Athletic, a source close to FIFA confirmed they will prohibit the presence of the pre-revolutionary flag at its venues this summer. Elon, your thoughts on both the Reza Pahlavi story and the flag?

• 36:38Speaker 05

  OK, so the Reza Pahlavi story, I think you nailed it perfectly when you said that Donald Trump has an obligation to the United States. To touch on what you both said earlier, Tom and Vinnie, is that the United States has limited the danger that Iran poses to us directly. The 60% enriched uranium could create a dirty bomb, and they demonstrated that they have longer-range ballistic missiles than we. Previously thought so there was a existential threat to the United States that's greatly limited now. Reza Pahlavi has an obligation to his own people if he wants to see change. You're right, you can't depend on another country and by the way, to say that Trump has been unclear. Trump has taken more action than any president would be willing to take in Iran to help create an environment where regime change could rise up and actually happen.

• 37:23Speaker 05

  So he did create the circumstances in the country for that time. As for this right now, uh, the Iranian flag being banned from FIFA. I understand the, the dangers of, you know, kind of, uh, uprising tension in a FIFA game, which could result in chaos and then people getting hurt and all that kind of stuff. They're trying to limit that. They're trying to keep it safe. But I do think knowing Iranian people that they will show up with their flags, like you said, anyway, they'll show up in big numbers and what are you gonna do?

• 37:48Patrick Bet-David?

  They're gonna show up.

• 37:49Speaker 05

  You're gonna kick out thousands of people from the stadium? You're gonna just start, that's gonna create a problem in itself. So they're gonna be in a position where if enough people show up with flags, there's gonna be nothing they can do and maybe that'll be a bigger statement overall. The fact that it was banned, people show up, hold it and they can't get rid of them than, uh, Adam.

• 38:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, uh, Persian fans out there, bring your flags. If they can bring the Palestinian terrorist flag anywhere they want and do marches in streets of every city, every single day, go ahead and bring your line in the sun. Major respect. Uh, the patience things, the flexible thing and Pat, I'm gonna ask you a question. Uh, it's been over 40 years. In the last four months, not even, they've killed over 40,000 of their own people. Yeah, uh, this regime has a stranglehold on the people, the foot, future does not look bright on their neck. And you want justice and you want this overturned in, in three months, guys? What are we doing?

• 38:51Speaker 04

  It's gonna take time, like in any other situation in life, when you make an investment in the war. But then last thing, uh, Pat, you, you just went in, sir. I mean, I, respectfully, you went, I've never seen you go that hard on the individual, but fair.

• 39:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think I went hard?

• 39:08Speaker 04

  No, but.

• 39:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Be honest, you claim you have people in the military flipping.

• 39:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Show me the baby. Show me the money.

• 39:14Speaker 04

  He was asking a question very clear. That's what I want to.

• 39:17Patrick Bet-David?

  If I tell you, if I threaten you, or if I give you a lead that I'm gonna do something, and you're like, let me tell you, like, imagine if some, oh, I am so connected, I'm gonna be able to introduce you to this, introduce you to that. Oh, really? All right. Eventually, you're like, where are your connections? Where are your contacts? Oh, I got money people. Really? Where are they? Oh, I am so, you hire somebody and they're like, oh, I can bring good engineers. Year later, like, I thought you had all these contacts. Where are all your contacts? No, so to me, he is, he is beloved. I mean, don't get it wrong. The guy is beloved by his people. They love him because they have a fantasy. The love towards him isn't towards him. The love towards him is because of the love they have for his father, not for him.

• 39:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And they are romanticizing with this, and at the end of the day, he has to either show that he is well-connected,

• 40:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:07Patrick Bet-David?

  and military folks are out there, great, or not. And if you're not, great. Don't, don't get out there and say you're confusing the hell out of everyone. You're confusing the hell out of everyone. Your job is Iran first, you claim. His job is America first. Are you, are you delivering on your promises? I don't know. Tom, do you have any thoughts on this?

• 40:26Speaker 04

  This is not the, not on this specifically, but I'll tell you. You know, Nicaragua and baseball players hated the fact that there was the alternative flag. They have the beautiful blue and white flag for Nicaragua, but then there's the black and red sandinista flag. And when they were at the World Baseball Classic, remember Nicaragua qualified World Baseball Classic for the first time ever in 23, I think it was first time ever, and then they came back in 26 with the team, they, they love that flag that's on the left, and then you see the FSLN, that's the sandinista, and it represents a time of pain and everything. So this is not the first time that you've had a country troubled who's had two flags going, and you know what? I see what they're trying to do for the World Cup.

• 41:08Speaker 04

  They don't want to, to feel like there's gonna be tension in the stands, just like people that see that FSLN, they think about the sandinista and they think about bloodshed and they don't like it. I just want to give you, you a chance to give the, the final word on this. Where I want to ask you is the shadow that he's living in under his father. I understand the romanticizing, I understand that painting, you know? I understand that he seems like a nice guy. He just has not backed it up with actions. And I just want to understand from a father, from a leader, some of the respects to father. Maybe just encapsulate, you know, where he could have done better, where he failed, who, what his position is. Cause I don't know this guy like you do. And really where he could help at this point, because I think you guys all want to get on the same page and free the Iranian people.

• 41:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and by the way, I don't want to act like I know this guy. So I don't know the guy. I've spent 15 hours with him, 18 hours with him. He's had dinner at our house, lunch at our house. I went and visited him in DC. We had lunch together, a nice Italian restaurant. He's always been very respectful, always. We've had very good conversations together. And then we've done a couple of podcasts together. I've spoken to his team over the years. I've been working behind closed doors for 12 years to help him. So it's not like I haven't been working behind. There's a lot of things people don't know that I've tried to help this guy out in a major way. I want to see him succeed. I want to see him succeed. I don't want to see him fail. Why the hell would I want to see him fail? Why would I want to? My only first cousin in the world lives in Iran, Armenian guy. You don't think I want to?

• 42:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I have one first cousin in the world, one, and he lives in Iran. You don't think I want to see this guy succeed? Of course I want to see him succeed. But eventually you get to a point where it's like, stop talking shit, deliver. It's very simple to me. If you're going to say you're going to deliver, go deliver and stop now putting the onus. Because now you know what happens and I want to tell you what his next move could be. Now it's kind of like, oh, say nothing happens with the Iranian revolution and Iranian regime change or regime collapse. Guess who he's going to blame? Trump. Oh, you'll see.

• 43:03Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 43:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You'll see.

• 43:05Speaker 04

  And that would be plainly unfair.

• 43:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That'll be a coward's move. But watch him, he'll be cornered because it's either his fault or Trump's fault. He's always going to be the guy that's not my fault. It's not my fault. It's that person's fault. It's not my fault. I hope he doesn't take that route. But if he's going out there saying you're confusing the hell out of everybody. I already see the next few moves coming from him.

• 43:26Speaker 04

  If he did that, and I don't have any ill will towards him, I would be, that would be very disrespectful to call it that.

• 43:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, he's already starting in a very subtle way with that message he gave two days ago. So, I want to get to the next story. I want to get to the next story. We've got a lot of other stories to get through. This is one of them that we had. Okay, next story I want to get to is the following. So, Raul Castro, okay? Raul Castro, one of Obama's best friends, who they go to baseball games together, and you know, he would go to Cuba and watch them play, really enjoyed having, you know, peanuts and hot dogs and just Obama communism and you know, how conservatives and capitalists sucks and all this, they have a lot of things like that in common. Raul Castro officially is being indicted. And Rob, what page is that story on? There you go. Trump, Castro indicted, very big moment for Cuban Americans. President Donald Trump called indictment of former Cuban Raul Castro, very big moment

• 44:13Patrick Bet-David?

  for Cuban Americans who believe, uh, uh, he believes, appreciate indictment. Trump spoke to reporters on the tarmac of Joint Base Andrews shortly after the acting Attorney General Todd Blanch announced the indictment. Rob, I don't know if you have that or not, if you want to pull that up. He said, "I think the Cuban population..." Is this Todd Blanch or the President?

• 44:32Speaker 04

  This is Todd Blanch.

• 44:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 44:34Speaker 05

  There's a reason why myself and the Senator and other leadership are here and not in Washington DC to announce this indictment. The community here, you all, understands the history of the Cuban regime better than anyone in America. Many families here know the cost of oppression. I've heard stories over the past week and past months, every one of them heartbreaking.

• 45:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is this just kind of given a story, stuff like this?

• 45:03Speaker 04

  Yes, I also have the President.

• 45:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I want to hear the President, not Todd Blanch. I want to hear what the President has to say in this one. Go for it.

• 45:09Speaker 06

  Appreciate what the Attorney General just did today and was just doing now, is just watching it. So, uh, we have Cuba on our mind, very important. We had a lot of problems for a lot of years, and this was a big, I think it was a very big moment for people that, not only Cuban Americans, but, uh, people that came from Cuba that wanted...

• 45:34Speaker 04

  Go back to Cuba, keep people that wanna see their family in Cuba. I think this is a very big day, very important day.

• 45:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, can we do this, Rob? Who is Raul Castro? What do we know about Raul Castro?

• 45:46Speaker 04

  That is Fidel's brother.

• 45:47Patrick Bet-David?

  That is Fidel's brother, but what did Raul Castro do in 1996?

• 45:52Speaker 04

  Eh, malo things. Cosa no, no go.

• 45:54Patrick Bet-David?

  The planes, yeah. There was a humanitarian plane, okay? And who decided to shoot down the planes that were the humanitarian plane in 1996? The shoot down of the brothers to the rescue aircraft. When a Cuban air force, uh, uh, shot down two unarmed Cessna 337 Sky Master aircraft operated by brothers to the rescue an organization opposed to Cuban government, killing four men on the 24th February of 1996, the indictment was unsealed and announced by the acting US general Todd Blanch, May 20, 2026. Now here's a question. Did Obama know this event? 100%. 100%.

• 46:31Speaker 04

  No question.

• 46:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So Barack Obama knows this event 100%. What is he doing going to a baseball game with Raul Castro? How do you argue that? You know, to go, this is, this is him and Obama right there, sitting right next to each other. It's not like they're sitting in the same section.

• 46:46Speaker 04

  Oh, and, and also the current president of Cuba in the blue hat right there.

• 46:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, they're sitting there. Do you not know what that guy did? I don't know. I, I, I don't, do you not know what's going on there? Look at the, look at the friendly conversations that they're having there, the smiles, you know, hey, uh, uh, this is a guy that literally shot down humanitarian planes. So why would they be this friendly with each other, Elon?

• 47:08Speaker 04

  By the way, go back to that picture right there? Do you know what this picture was from?

• 47:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I know what happens when you aim your hand that low, like that. Hey!

• 47:16Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 47:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey!

• 47:17Speaker 04

  Understand this, Barack Obama, this is for you, sir.

• 47:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 47:21Speaker 04

  Allegedly, you can fact check this, he didn't want to shake his hand on camera. So Raul went to shake his hand. Cause there's a difference sitting there versus that picture. You know what I'm saying, that picture? So he went to like, and, oh, there it is. And then he did it. But that's why he did that picture. I'm telling you. That might be AI.

• 47:43Speaker 05

  We've seen Obama, yeah, we've seen Obama align himself with figures that I would consider extremists from a very young age. Was, what was it, Dinesh D'Souza's documentary on him showed all those connections back in the day. I mean, this is unsurprising to me. This is not some major breakthrough.

• 47:58Speaker 04

  Translated Marxist Socialist.

• 47:59Speaker 05

  Yes, essentially. But if we're looking at the bigger story here, I think it's interesting that Trump is trying to isolate Cuba. It seems like he's starting to push for soft regime evolution and he does seem to want to make it a more strategic location and look at the effects. Obviously, if you look at the strategic impact, the influence that Russia and China have through Cuba, I think that's his goal there.

• 48:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what do you think with this story? Is this a big story with Raul Castro? Is there like sequencing? We get him first and then we free Cuba?

• 48:30Speaker 04

  I think this is a very big story and I think it's very big sequencing because right now Cuba, all these pictures of baseball games, everything with Raul, they are, that is, these are history. And let Americans know what's going on right now. These people are in blackout. They don't have running water in many places because they've run out of generator fuel. So you have a power grid that was powering pumping plants for water. That means water comes out of the faucet and water leaves through the toilet. So basically you have the basics of life. Not great, but at least you have that. Many areas in Cuba right now haven't had that for weeks. They're carrying jugs of waters from relief stations. Number one. Number two, they have no power. Number three, if you don't have generators at certain government

• 49:12Speaker 04

  buildings, and that's where our guys went to visit them, it's there. So number one, you could take Raul Castro. Number two, you just wait for this thing to just collapse and it's about to collapse. It's not big and complex like Iran. This is, this community could absolutely collapse. And then you can just step in and, you know, elicit, you know, leadership change the same way that has been done in Venezuela. And I think the next step is here. And I think we're on the edge of a new, we are closer to being on the edge of a new Cuba than we ever were to being on the edge of a new Iran.

• 49:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Vinnie?

• 49:50Speaker 03

  I just want to give, first of all, to Todd Blanch, pal. Like, say what you want. This guy came in, he's the acting Attorney General, he is not stopping. Compare him to friggin' Pam Bondi, right, who did absolutely nothing. And you gotta give, you know, that's... I'm not gonna judge him. Obama likes hanging out with people that murder people. And he also likes sending airplanes of cash, hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars, to countries that say "Death to America" pad. That's just the kinda people that he likes to hang around. And to me, he doesn't like America. And that's the type of action from people that don't give a damn about us. And I never think that Obama cared about this fucking country, period.

• 50:27Speaker 04

  Uh, agree with some of what you said, some of what you said, and we can make the case that Trump will go to North Korea and meet with bad guys, and that's kinda diplomacy.

• 50:38Speaker 03

  To do what, though? To have, to try to make peace?

• 50:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  Like, if you're going to a little baseball game with a guy that kills people, that's a whole...

• 50:43Speaker 04

  And he was poking him constantly. "Little Rocket Man's gonna listen. We're gonna figure this out." It's not good that he is launching things into the ocean near Japan. There's a little bit different with the way Trump talked about North Korea than Obama talked about anybody.

• 50:58Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 50:59Speaker 04

  I agree, guys. I'm just saying that presidents go to foreign countries that are enemies of ours, and they try to do diplomacy.

• 51:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, but sending cash and doing... That's a whole different situation than sending...

• 51:09Speaker 04

  I agree with you.

• 51:10Speaker 03

  Alright. Just wanna make sure.

• 51:11Speaker 04

  Guys, I'm just saying...

• 51:12Speaker 03

  What, are I taking crazy pills?

• 51:13Speaker 04

  I'm just saying presidents meet with bad people. We got a photo op in a pack of Salem. Holy moly, around here. Alright, but if I'm Cuba, oh, yeah, me and Cuba, there's one bad thing I just heard. And it's the reason Trump goes, "Yeah," Pat goes, "Yeah," I don't wanna hear what Todd Blanch would say. What does Trump have to say? And what did he say? "Uh, Cuba? Cuba's on our mind." And if you're a bad guy these days, and you're on Trump's mind, that's no good, as the Cubans say. Because who's their best friend right down the street? Venezuela. Ask Maduro how he's doing these days. Or their other friend, the Ayatollah, how's he doing these days? So the Cubans, the Marxists, the guys who are still doing the revolution somehow,

• 51:57Speaker 04

  we're still doing the revolution in Cuba. That's what he keeps talking. "The revolution survived." Okay, your people are desolate and poor, have no money, and that leads to Obama. This whole socialist Marxist communist gang gang is just becoming just so obvious. This is why we have democratic socialist campaigning.

• 52:19Speaker 04

  Vote for the socialist guys, this is what America is now?

• 52:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, on the left.

• 52:23Speaker 04

  They're just socialist?

• 52:24Speaker 05

  Openly Marxist.

• 52:26Speaker 04

  This is what's going on here? To me, that's the bigger story. Why are we cozying up to socialism again? As if we don't know where this ends?

• 52:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, but that's not new. That seems to be a consistent issue on the left. Is there love affair with socialism and Marxism? And it's just becoming more and more extreme and more scary, more normalized.

• 52:43Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 52:44Speaker 05

  Openly normalized, where it used to be controversial even on the left. On a touch point on Tom saying that they're waiting for collapse. I think that's a dangerous game just due to the sheer instability that you could cause in the region compared to what I think Trump might be trying to do, which is a little bit more isolation and a slower, soft regime change.

• 53:01Speaker 04

  I think that's one of the options they have. I don't think it's the best option at all. I think the best option is Raoul gets in an Uber courtesy of the US Navy SEALs and finds his ass in New York in front of a judge magistrate in the International Court. And that we figure out how to put in temporary leadership or, you know, a stability leadership, the way we did in Venezuela. I think that's the best outcome that gets and that we immediately get fuel supplies for those people. I mean, if you don't think we're thinking about it, why is the USS Nimitz, which is almost larger than Cuba itself, sitting in the Caribbean? Why is it sitting there? What sort of message does that send? Well, but I'm with you.

• 53:41Speaker 04

  I don't want to just wait for it to collapse and all the plight and all those people and then have to go clean up mess A, what just collapsed, mess B, humanitarian and get the people back on their.

• 53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  What does Calci say on Cuba rap? What is Calci saying on how long it's going to take for Cuba to be done? What position, what are people saying about Calci? About Cuba on Calci? I'm curious. Is there a Calci up there about Cuba? There has to be.

• 54:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, of course there is.

• 54:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Just go to Calci and then type in Cuba, let's see what comes up.

• 54:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Leaves office, not that leaves office, will they announce a trade deal, know what countries, Marco Rubio visit this year, which countries, will Mexico, no, it doesn't have anything, there has to be something there on Cuba, I'm surprised as well.

• 54:24Speaker 04

  Just one moment of clarity, Raul Castro is not, and I, correct me if I'm wrong, he's not the sitting president.

• 54:32Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, he's not.

• 54:33Speaker 04

  It's a Miguel Diaz Canal guy, that, that he's still doing the revolution, so I don't, I think, I fact check this, I think Raul Castro was like 175 years old. 94, yeah. Okay, I mean this guy ain't going anywhere.

• 54:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I told you already, Trump targets people above 85.

• 54:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump likes people that are older than him, he doesn't like them that he's older than him, he's like, listen, you're how old, I mean, listen, you know, Chomene was 86, he went after Chomene, Biden was older than him, it's like, no, and then now he wants to go after him, Trump doesn't like seniors.

• 55:04Speaker 04

  Hey, man.

• 55:05Patrick Bet-David?

  He is like, he is a little bit like.

• 55:06Speaker 04

  He's gonna be 80 in a month, guys.

• 55:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, it's his way of saying, look, I'm gonna be the oldest guy in charge, all the rest of you guys, get out, everyone's gotta be younger than me.

• 55:16Speaker 04

  So she is safe, Putin's safe.

• 55:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Anybody that's younger than Trump is safe, anybody older than Trump, you better watch.

• 55:21Speaker 04

  Watch out, bitch McConnell, watch out. Adam, Adam, Adam, tomorrow morning, Bernie.

• 55:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go to the next story, I'm gonna go to the next story, okay, all right. Um, Tom, did you wanna tell your joke, or you wanna, was it gonna land, or, I'm gonna give you the opportunity.

• 55:33Speaker 04

  I want the joke.

• 55:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to SpaceX, SpaceX page 24, uh, so, the biggest revelations from the SpaceX S1 filing, folks, if you're not, listen, some people are trying to run a business that does a million dollars a year, some run a business doing 10 million a year, some get to 100 million, which is like, my God, I can't believe we built a 100 million dollar a year business, this guy doesn't build billion dollar companies, this guy's building multiple trillion dollar companies, let me say this again, he's built multiple companies that are not worth multi-billion dollars, multi-trillion dollars.

• 56:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And now SpaceX, which was a, just an idea, now all of a sudden, you know, the, the single biggest IPO, so let me read a couple of things to it. Musk's initiative to build a human colo- uh, colony. Making life multi-planetary is at the forefront of SpaceX's mission, number one. Number two, Musk's pay package could be worth up to 737 billion dollars. Based on the implied share count in the filings, Musk's two performance awards could be worth 737 billion dollars. So what's your bonus this year, folks? His is 737 billion, if he's able to get this done, okay? And that is if a 1 billion share award that vests, if SpaceX reaches a valuation of 7.5 trillion dollars,

• 56:55Patrick Bet-David?

  which by the way, Tom's gonna tell you a number that's 28.5 trillion dollars here in a minute, but he'll get to it. Anthropic is paying a lot for SpaceX compute. Anthropic's paying SpaceX 1.25 billion dollars a month through May of 2029 for access to the rocket company's compute capacity. That's a pretty good customer right there. Musk has massive voting power, okay? You ready for the voting power? Let me read it to you. Voting rights in stock means each share owned gives the shareholders one vote on eligible matters. Except, the S1 revealed that Musk, who serves as the company's chief executive, CTO, and chairman of the board.

• 57:30Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 57:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Holds 85.1% of combined voting power, which you know what, and what it means? Nobody gets to say shit. What he says is gonna happen. And Grok's capex was higher than Starship's. The S1 laid out capital expenditure by division for the three-month ending, March 31st, 1 billion dollar on space, 1.3 billion on connectivity, 7.7 billion dollars on AI. That means spending on ex-AI projects like Grok was higher than SpaceX's rocket division spending, which includes the super-heavy Starship rockets. The company poured money into AI last year too. For 2025, space segment spent 3.8 billion dollars and the AI segment spent 12.7 billion dollars. Tom, how big of a deal is this?

• 58:16Speaker 04

  This is huge. This is really big. And everybody is coming out today. Um, there was an analyst, I won't give his name, um, from, uh, information that came out and said SpaceX is worth 700 billion, not 1.75, and he did all present value on things. People are doing that, and I'm like, wait a minute, it's not present value, it's future value. And to talk about-

• 58:36Patrick Bet-David?

  In life, in S1s, there's what's called TAM and SAM. TAM is total available market. Like, uh, let's say, let's say Vinnie. You know, the, um, the merchandise. Let's say merchandise in the United States was a total, total available market of $10 billion. I'm writing that down. And then you go to SAM, served market. But the faith-based market would be $400 million. Make sense? So you always look at it that way. And big TAMS, total available markets, big market opportunities, make IPOs go. Well, check this out. The total addressable market in the S1, they said, is $28.5 trillion,

• 59:15Patrick Bet-David?

  which the company claimed, quote, "This is the largest actionable total addressable market in human history, with AI making up 93% of the opportunities." So here's SpaceX. What's inside SpaceX? AI is 26 trillion of it, of the total market. Connectivity, Starlink, is 1.6 trillion. So, oh, little Starlink, it's 1.6 trillion dollars! Yeah, that's enormous. You know, it's, it's huge. It's going to be like the, the number seven, number five, six or seven company at the end of this year. The space segment, space-enabled solutions, you know, launching stuff for other people, only $370 billion. But check this out. AI from enterprise applications, a TAM of $22.7 trillion.

• 1:00:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So what they're really saying is it's all about getting the data centers in space, where you don't have the cooling, you don't have the water to worry about, because facing the sun, it's ridiculously hot. But eight inches away, facing space, it's ridiculously cold, which is, which, guess what? Chips love that. And so this would be if he gets the data centers up orbiting there, then guess what? He has a massive cost advantage after he gets them up there. And so what you see here, Pat, is just stunning. This is, you called it. Um, and I don't know if we have that clip there. Um, but a couple of years ago, Pat called it on where, where Musk would be going. Rob, do we have that?

• 1:00:43Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:00:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what? This is?

• 1:00:47Speaker 04

  May 7th, 2022.

• 1:00:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Play it. I had a mustache that day. Yeah. Is there audio? Should I invest on Twitter today? Should I invest?

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  You can get it. The rounds are a hundred million.

• 1:00:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Where do I say that he will be a trillionaire?

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  Right here.

• 1:01:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to go to specific part where I say he'll be a trillionaire?

• 1:01:04Speaker 04

  Yep, right here.

• 1:01:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it. There's not a lot of people that are sitting on a hundred million dollars of cash. That's the challenge. Market cap, thirty-eight billion dollars. Okay, here's what I'll tell you. Twitter. A rollout is a really giant. So don't worry. It is what it is. So, okay.

• 1:01:20Speaker 04

  But we called it there and now you have.

• 1:01:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He'll be a trillionaire. We don't need to play this clip, but he'll be a trillionaire in no time. This was four and a half years ago.

• 1:01:28Speaker 04

  He's the first self-made. People say, oh, there's other trillionaires on Earth. Stop. You're talking about sovereigns that are running countries that own the oil under the land. None of them, they were born into it and the oil was put there by God.

• 1:01:42Speaker 03

  I have to, after Tom came to me, Tom, I concur with your monetary assessment. Your analysis demonstrates a sophisticated understanding of economic reality of what's going on. I just had to tell him that.

• 1:01:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Love it.

• 1:01:53Speaker 03

  Because I'm so.

• 1:01:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon, how big of a deal is this? How big of a deal is this?

• 1:01:57Speaker 05

  I think it's a huge, I think number one, one of the main things we're seeing that Tom touched on is the importance and the future of our world literally depends on our data centers, on the, that's the big upcoming war. But I think in terms of Elon Musk, he's, we're getting to the point where individuals, like an individual like Elon Musk can hold more power and more influence than countries, than entire countries. He's building civilization scale infrastructure. This isn't like, this is like back in the day they built the railroads. He's building this to outer space. So it's an entire different mindset and he's, he's not only revolutionized multiple industries, he's created multiple industries. Everything he went into, people said was an impossible place to go into. When we looked at electric cars, he created that entire industry. People said it wasn't viable. When we look at privatized space travel,

• 1:02:41Speaker 05

  people said that wasn't viable. He has taken every single thing he's done and turned it into a mega corporation. I think people fail to realize that the future of our world is going to be heavily influenced by people like this. And again, it all comes down to the data centers, our ability to compute things is going to be the future. And that's where everyone should be putting their focus.

• 1:02:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 1:03:02Speaker 04

  You gave that date, what was it, in May of twenty twenty-two?

• 1:03:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, twenty twenty-two.

• 1:03:08Speaker 04

  Where do you think his net worth was at that point?

• 1:03:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Two hundred and fifty billion.

• 1:03:11Speaker 04

  Okay, you want to see something crazy? Rob, I sent you a picture. Where do you think his wealth was in twenty twenty, right after COVID?

• 1:03:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Right after covid?

• 1:03:19Speaker 04

  Like, you know, a few months after covid.

• 1:03:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Eighty eight billion.

• 1:03:21Speaker 04

  Rob, don't show that.

• 1:03:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Eighty eight billion.

• 1:03:23Speaker 04

  Okay, you're absolutely right. Look, Rob, the other picture. This is in October of 2020.

• 1:03:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:03:27Speaker 04

  I'm doing board episodes in my favorite place in the world, Addison. Look where Elon Musk is on that list.

• 1:03:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Ninety six billion.

• 1:03:33Speaker 04

  He's the fourth, sorry, fifth richest person. God, I had to write that whole thing. That was ridiculous. Worth ninety six billion, and so less than, a little over five years later, he's gonna be a trillionaire? And wow, let's just, let's just stop right there. But you called it, respect to you. I think this is gonna get real ugly for the guy. And by the way, I'm gonna say two different things right here. We need to stop, in America, the socialist Marxists, stop villainizing the greatest creators, uh, these billionaires, the people who are changing life as we know it, and villainizing them for becoming billionaires or trillionaires. It's like, what do you want to pay them with?

• 1:04:16Speaker 04

  Cookies and ice cream? Like, how, when you do good things, like, what can we give them? Well, they do it for money and wealth, so they can do it and buy and build more businesses. Clearly, this guy wants to do is like, I don't understand that the Marxists, the communists want to come after their money. It's like, that's how, they're funding your cities.

• 1:04:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but look, I mean, that's great to see this on what the guy is doing. What I will say is, how does this apply to you? Okay? How does this apply to you?

• 1:04:45Speaker 04

  That's where I was going. That's where I was going. Okay, sorry. So, what I will say is, is there ever a case, maybe in the history of the world, Pat?

• 1:04:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:53Speaker 04

  Of signal over noise than Elon Musk? This guy is in the headlines for all the wrong reasons, other than Trump, probably one of the most hated men in America, if not in the world. And all he's doing is changing the world. From the baby mama drama, the Trump Epstein tweet, six months later, he's on a plane with Trump to China. The way that he's tuned out all the noise and built some of the world's greatest companies, in fact, since covid. He's on the list of the top 10 companies that have had the biggest profit margins since 2020.

• 1:05:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:29Speaker 04

  And he's done all this with basically creating drama everywhere he goes. He just did a lawsuit, I think he was found guilty or whatever it was with Sam Altman, or he lost that case.

• 1:05:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:38Speaker 04

  So there's so much noise going on this.

• 1:05:40Patrick Bet-David?

  But I want to show this.

• 1:05:40Speaker 04

  Nobody was.

• 1:05:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to show this, Rob, if you want to pull this up, Rob. How does this apply to you? Folks, if you're not somebody that's following exactly what's going on, this is not a sponsorship. Okay. Autopilot, what they do is they track what everyone's portfolio is that you can match them. They just released recently, Trump's administration committed $2 billion to quantum computing companies in exchange for equity stakes. And these were a handful of companies they looked at that's surging right now. Okay, just look at that. Inflection, D-Wave Quantum, Rigidie, Global Boundaries, and IBM because they got the deals. So if you haven't gone and downloaded the app, Autopilot, do yourself a favor and go do that.

• 1:06:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You can have any of the portfolios that they're following and you're like not somebody that's a day trader. They do it for you, Rob. Can you go to the other image I sent you? I sent you two of them. This is one of them and I sent you the other one to pull up. So if you go to their account right now, one of their top performing ones by the unusual whales is White House Asset Management. You literally track what they're investing their money into. So there's going to be a lot of wealth being made the next few years. You may as well ride it. You may as well ride it. If you can't afford to put a lot into it, test something out for yourself that you can afford. But get in the mix. This is going to be the amount of like Anthropic CEO said this, this is very important for people to be aware of.

• 1:07:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He said GDP is going to go to the, it's going to skyrocket, but so is unemployment is going to go to 10%. During this time when it happens, make sure you're paying attention to your investments. Make sure you're paying attention to what's going to happen to your own investments. The difference could be if you're sitting on $88,000 today, in the next five years, that $88,000 could be $172,000 or it could be $388,000 or it could be.

• 1:07:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Six hundred ninety four thousand dollars, or it could be in the millions. But if you're just somebody that's not paying attention to what's going on in the market, your family's gonna be impacted by as well. The you love or hate what's going on with AI? You can hate it as much as you want. Make sure at least the investment side work in your favor and you have the tools. Autopilot may be one of the best ones for you to look at. At what they're doing today for the average person. Tom introduced me to this. We made the phone call. I was so impressed by these guys. I got involved myself in the company. Uh, uh, on wanting to contribute to them and then I open up an account. I put my own money in it as well and I'm watching what's going on. I got a lot of different investment portfolios, but it is something where the average person, even somebody, thirty nine percent of our audience are business owners. You guys did the survey.

• 1:08:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Thirty nine percent of your audience are business owners. You may want to check these guys out. Okay. Let's go into the next story. Next story I want to get to is. What happened with Zuck? So Zuck with the seven thousand layoffs because of AI that took place. The one thing that people are missing is anytime something like this happens, automatically everything is. Mark Zuckerberg, you know, addresses staff ahead of mass AI layoffs. And by the way, was this leaked intentionally or was this accidental?

• 1:08:39Speaker 03

  I don't know, but it was on a all hands meeting on the April thirtieth. Where he just told them that, you know, the training AI on them ahead of mass layoffs.

• 1:08:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so this is a conversation that's been taking place. Mass layoffs are around the corner. Wednesday, they did the layoffs two days ago. They asked everybody to stay home for no one to come to the office. Bunch of employees who were worried about getting fired were taking batteries, chargers, they were taking whatever the supplies that Facebook allows you to have. And remember, you know what the average sal- what the average employee makes at Facebook? I don't know if you know the average salary. The average employee at Meta makes between three fifty to three hundred and eighty thousand dollars a year. So it's not like they're getting rid of sixty two thousand. There you go, three seventy nine a year. Is what the average salary, the median total salary is at Meta. So when they're letting go of people, seven thousand of them, it's a lot of money. But if you want to play this clip, Vinnie, I'm gonna come to you first and Tom, I'm coming to you right afterwards. Go ahead.

• 1:09:31Patrick Bet-David?

  In other news, I know layoffs are top of mind, but there were also some updates this week around, um, and a question around employee device tracking. So, can you share more on employee device tracking? Um, I think the way that it was announced, left folks with some, yeah. So, okay, let's, let's talk about what we're doing. Um, you know, like Alex just said, going into What makes these AI models great, right? There's basically a few key ingredients. There's getting the research and the architecture good. There's having good infrastructure, which is both the quantity of compute. But like as important, if not more, is is also just like, how efficiently can you use it? How reliable is it? What like, what is the the quality of that? It's a six minute clip. And then what?

• 1:10:15Speaker 03

  What 44, I think 44, I 44 seconds, Rob. Um, I don't know. I think he did. He already said the AI part.

• 1:10:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Which he says what?

• 1:10:22Speaker 03

  He said the AI models learn from watching really smart people do things. That's what he, that's what he's, that's the goal of what this leaked audio was about.

• 1:10:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So meaning you keep coding so the AI models are watching what you're doing so they get smarter?

• 1:10:35Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:10:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So and that that's here, by the way, and and all the back in the days, you know, the the the Luke Gorman was showing this of where Anthropic CEO talking about, you know, that part with which jobs are going to be replaced by AI the most? Did you see this thing?

• 1:10:50Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a chart that was going viral all over X. It's very important to see this and scary at the same time. Parents, if you haven't seen this, talk about this with your kids. Uh, right there, Rob, if you can click on that, watch this, folks. So this is, go to the top, Rob, so we can see what the top headline says. Andrej Karpathy, who was at OpenAI, he left to go to Anthropic, just dropped a job risk map for the AI era. By the way, this guy's a heavy, heavy, heavy weight, respected by everybody on the AI space. Can you zoom in a little bit, Rob, if you could? This is what he's saying the risk is at. Red is risky, green is fine. Look at red. General office clerks, okay, secretaries and admin, makes sense. Customer service representatives, totally makes sense. Bookkeeping on the bottom left, but really go to the fourth chart, bottom. Do you see software developers?

• 1:11:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:11:35Patrick Bet-David?

  They're gonna lose their jobs.

• 1:11:37Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 1:11:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you like, kids go to school to become software developers? Guess what? No one cares. Cashiers gone, heavy and tractor operators, accountants, management, project management, purchasing, human resources, market research.

• 1:11:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Lawyers, AI is gonna replace lawyers. Now, look at the green, Vinny. Look what the jobs are green. Construction labors, janitors, childcare, okay? All labor. Pre-school teachers, barbers, Drew and Michael Rapattonio are safe. Nurses, home healthcare, hand labors, retail sales workers, delivery truck drivers, farmers, cooks, food and beverage sales, waiters and waitresses, electricians, plumbers, they're safe. This is changing. This is real. And so, Facebook, Zuck is saying this to his engineers. On the back end, Tom, I think it's very important to know that Zuck knows, that you, like, imagine, like, imagine you're an engineer, you went to school, you're one of the best engineers.

• 1:12:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I know that you know your job is about to be replaced by this AI software. We both know. So my concern is, I want the best from you. What can I do to get the best from you so you don't get distracted and go to a different place? Tom, can you unpack what Facebook did, what Meta did to these guys that are helping of the AI getting smarter when it comes onto coding?

• 1:12:54Speaker 05

  Exactly. Right now, when Meta hires, by the way, amidst all these layoffs, Meta is still hiring brilliant engineers to come in, work on AI and other projects. And right now, they are still at half a million, million-dollar signing bonuses. There were, there was headlines that an elite engineer received $100 million signing bonus. And Pat, what they were talking about, they gave him a bunch of stock options, that person, that if they go over time and Facebook keeps growing, it's $100 million. But right now, this is, this is where they're at right now. Level E6 is what they call a staff engineer. That's a staff engineer at Facebook. And their salary, 300, their stock matches it every year, 300. You make 700

• 1:13:38Speaker 05

  a year, plus, plus, plus, for an E6. E7 is 1.1 million, E8 is 2.72, E9 is 3.85. So, from level E6, staff engineer, going all the way up, now you're on million-dollar packages. C-level CFOs at mid-sized companies in America don't make 2.1 million.

• 1:14:01Speaker 05

  Dollars a year.

• 1:14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:14:02Speaker 05

  And so, and, and Facebook is saying, okay, well, you're just an E7 Senior Staff Engineer, and you're going to make 1.5 million. So there may be a lot of layoffs. They may have gotten rid of the Metaverse. They may have called Reality Labs. They may have done that. And they may be eliminating jobs for AI. But the people that are staying are very well compensated. And it's not like stick around for, and then show AI how to do the coding, and then you're out of here. It may be, but along the way, you're being paid handsomely to do that job.

• 1:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, E7 makes 1.469 million. Rob, can you pull up what an E7 makes in the Army?

• 1:14:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 1:14:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Shit, when you say E7.

• 1:14:39Speaker 03

  I was an E5, homie.

• 1:14:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I have flat, I go back in the Army, E7.

• 1:14:42Speaker 03

  Y'all get ready for ballers.

• 1:14:43Patrick Bet-David?

  E7s make 3,932 dollars. Folks, don't get it twisted. This is E7 as an engineer, not E7 in the Army. You make, you make chump change. But go, but you know what I, what I do think is going to happen, Vinny? Uh, uh, and, and Tom, I think here's what's going to happen. I think employees are going to shrink at a lot of these companies, but they're going to make a lot of money. So if you're there, so if you were making 379, you're going to make, you know, one and a half. If you were making one and a half, you're going to make 3.2. If you were making 3.2, you're going to make 7.8. I think it's going to be the other way around to keep those guys. But, uh, it, it is something that a lot of people are thinking about and worried about.

• 1:15:23Speaker 05

  I, I just think that the entire way we view our economic structure is almost prehistoric compared to what's coming. I think that's the problem. I think there's two simultaneous things happening. You looked at that chart. That's the influence of AI. It doesn't look at the influence of just robotics and automation, which will accelerate at an exponential rate once AI gets better. We're starting to see robots that are made much cheaper. I mean, Elon Musk's working on it. So there's going to be two hits to the economy. And what does a capitalist society look like when labor isn't as meaningful? And I think we're headed in that direction. We have to start thinking about this more existentially than literally. The value of money, the way we perceive wealth, the way we perceive taking care of people in society, all has to shift to accommodate for AI. A lot of people are looking at AI and they're saying,

• 1:16:06Speaker 05

  don't worry, new jobs will be created to compensate like in the past. I don't believe that AI. is not only doing the physical kind of aspect that used to be compensated for it is doing the actual thinking and what do we see most affected here the highest level of thinking is what's most affected so meaning I thought AI would come out and it wouldn't change art it wouldn't change film it wouldn't that was the first thing it hit it is incredible at doing the high level stuff so once it can break itself down through automation and robotics to do the low level stuff I think every industry is impacted and I just don't see how we replace it I'm terrified of AI that's my honest opinion on

• 1:16:42Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah I don't think it's gonna be every industry I think it'll be quite a lot of them but I do think you know sometimes sometimes like listen you know what's my favorite day of the week

• 1:16:52Speaker 05

  Saturday when you put your phone away

• 1:16:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Saturday night six to nine when this is not in our hands and it's my favorite day of the week this thing's away right as much as I love technology and how it's changed our lives I dislike it just as much because it's stealing time away from our loved ones and who we like to sit down and talk to I do think we're gonna go that route but I do think team human is gonna make a comeback we're gonna miss each other we're gonna miss I remember I told the story a few weeks ago where me and this guy from Armenian power got into a fight once at Glendale Community College and it was just a group of us stupid fight for no reason massive fight few months later I'm in the army at PX and you know what the PX is you're going to PX to shop it's like the Walmart of the army

• 1:17:37Speaker 05

  it's like tax-free

• 1:17:38Patrick Bet-David?

  and it's a smaller PX at Fort Jackson okay 228 right across the street from the 228 unit small the smallest PX not the big PX and this guy we're both bald he leaves he keeps mad dogging me I'm mad dogging him they both have crooked noses when you got a crooked nose you're either Italian or Middle Eastern right yeah so he's he's looking at me I'm looking at and we get closer closer closer we hug each other and we're crying wow so just a few months ago we're fighting a few months later we're his name was sleepy I believe if I'm not mistaken he had a brother both of them joined the military great guy we ended up becoming good friends so I think the friction is gonna bring us back to team human but I do think some industry is gonna be disrupted and I a lot of industries gonna be disrupted and I do think people need to be aware and have to talk to their kids about this you can't sit there and not have the conversation

• 1:18:24Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to sit there and have this conversation with your kids because it's coming to a city near you. Whether you like it or not, it's coming to a city near you.

• 1:18:32Speaker 03

  I agree 100%. I mean, and just, just, I mean, if we go back to the Zuckerberg story and I, I, trust me, I, I understand 100% as a CEO, it's the company and that's what he does. But using your employees for training data specifically for the purpose of replacing them later is pretty freaking cold-hearted. And I, I get, I get the fact that he's gonna pay him, Tom, and do that for the future. But I think the bigger-

• 1:18:53Speaker 04

  Respectfully, you just, you just mentioned every company in America.

• 1:18:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. But, but, but training them and saying that they're watching-

• 1:19:01Speaker 04

  By the way, I'm no, I'm no defender of Mark Zuckerberg, but when you can say that and that's kinda cold, cold-hearted, you're not just talking about Mark, you're talking about every company that is building an LLM.

• 1:19:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I don't know. I don't know, guys. I don't know, guys. Because let, let me tell you how this works, okay? Whose job is it to make sure your kids, your wife, your family is positioned the right way? Whose job and duty is that?

• 1:19:23Speaker 03

  Husband.

• 1:19:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yours.

• 1:19:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:19:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Whose job is it to make sure if you're an entertainer or comedian to stay funny? Whose job is it? AI's job or your job?

• 1:19:32Speaker 03

  Your job.

• 1:19:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Your job. Whose job is it if you're, if you're a model to make sure you don't have belly fat? So when pictures are taken, you look good and your chin looks flawless?

• 1:19:41Speaker 03

  Yours.

• 1:19:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Whose job is it if you're an actor to make sure you stay sharp, you stay marketable?

• 1:19:45Speaker 03

  You.

• 1:19:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Your job. So for me, if you have a job, anywhere you're working, it's your, you can either sit there and say, well, F this company, all they wanna do is be able to replace me anyways and da-da-da-da-da. What a negative place to come from.

• 1:19:58Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:19:58Patrick Bet-David?

  What a negative place to come from. For me, it's more sit there and say, you know, uh, uh, uh, what can I do to be multifaceted to the company? So I got more value that I'm bringing to the company. Because for me, guess, guess what I have? What, what fear do you think I have? Let's flip it. Can you imagine like F everybody? Everybody, you train them and they leave and start their own business?

• 1:20:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:20:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What do I have to say? Make the opportunity better.

• 1:20:22Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:20:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Make the environment better. Make the climate better where people work better together. We had a staff meeting the other day. How, have you ever seen a staff meeting this big, this big double hat?

• 1:20:30Speaker 03

  Almost 200 people.

• 1:20:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It was insane. We had 17 new people- People we onboarded just last week on Monday.

• 1:20:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I've never seen this many employees in our company. We're hiring like gangbusters left and right. And then guess what we do? We create the comp in a way. How do we give equity, Vinny? Yeah, like you, you, you know, people that have equity in the company. Rob, what equity do you have in the company? Which businesses do you have equity in? Stock options in?

• 1:20:51Speaker 04

  All of them.

• 1:20:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Name me the businesses that you have stock options in.

• 1:20:54Speaker 04

  Minect, VT Merch, VT Events, uh, ValueTainment, uh, Bet David Consulting, uh, the Boardroom Cigar Lounge, Hire Metrics.

• 1:21:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you, you heard what he just said. So guess what? Every, you create the opportunity in a better way. So everybody's working collaboratively. So how do people work together? They're like, I didn't know Studio does that. I didn't know Merch does that. I didn't know Hire Metrics does that. I didn't know Minect does that. I didn't know engineers do that. So I think it's on the business owners to make it better and the individuals. If you sit there and you say, all women want to do is take advantage of the money and da, da, da, da, da. All men want to do is take, okay, yes, let's make ourselves more valuable, more marketable. I do, I do think, I do think in a big way, this is actually honest. I think it's the most honest way of saying, hey, Vinny, this is what we're doing.

• 1:21:44Patrick Bet-David?

  AI is here. This is how it's replacing themselves. My suggestion for you the next six months, I'd like to see you go take this executive course. Pay attention to what's going on here because we need help in the company in these three areas. And so while you're helping us out with this transition, in the next six to 12, 18 months, I would like to see you take this position of XYZ. And you're like, oh, wow, that's cool. And that's called career planning. Like one of the things with Hire Metrics we do, which is my favorite part of Hire Metrics. We do the calibration. You're part of the calibration that we do quarterly and you know how we do calibrations. Okay. So the part of the calibration that we added this year, which is magical. It was a massive disruption and uncomfortable for everybody. You know what it was? Here's what it was. Typically calibration, who do you calibrate? Employees.

• 1:22:28Speaker 04

  Employee.

• 1:22:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you know, exceeds expectation, meets expectation, does not meet expectation, needs improvement, right? Outstanding. You know what we did this time? We sent calibration on all of our managers. So if you got nine people that report to you, we sent an email to everybody to answer questions, 10 questions, on how well of a job your manager does sitting with you to help you with your career planning. And then scores came back. And then some department scored 4.3. Some department scored 2.3. And then you're like, hey, do you ever talk about career with the guys? No, and I don't enough. We need to. Hey, why do you talk about your career with the guys? Here's how I do it. So I think whatever's going on, companies have to get better. Individual performers have to get better.

• 1:23:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Managers have to get better and leaders have to get better. If we don't do that, Vinny, you are right. Everybody, everybody could be replaced if we don't collectively get better.

• 1:23:24Speaker 03

  And then guess what happens, which is a scary thing that we talked about. And me and Humberto were talking about this the other day, Pat, in the car. Like, the middle class and the lower class that are probably gonna be losing some of those jobs, they're used to being once in a while poor. They've struggled. They've been there. Guess what? These people that were making 500, 700,000, Pat, that are gonna lose their job and they're not ready, they don't know how to be broke. They don't know how to be poor. So then you're gonna take people that own all this house and all this stuff, and they're gonna basically be struggling. Then what happens to society? Because you know what I love that you said, Pat? The people that use their hands, they're chilling. All the people that are using their hands that society normally looks down upon, they're right now like this.

• 1:23:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You ready?

• 1:23:59Speaker 03

  I'm doing great.

• 1:24:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, question for you. Watch this, Vinny.

• 1:24:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:04Patrick Bet-David?

  How many industries have you worked in that have nothing to do with each other?

• 1:24:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this. You've made tens of millions of dollars in your career. How many industries have you been involved in that have nothing to do with each other?

• 1:24:17Speaker 04

  I could probably name five right now.

• 1:24:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so why does the market keep looking for guys like you? Why are you never worried about what happens with you and your career?

• 1:24:26Speaker 04

  I'm an operator and I'm adaptable.

• 1:24:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly. You know the people that are making the 500,000 dollars a year? You know what you're not asking, Vinny?

• 1:24:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:24:35Patrick Bet-David?

  What did they do to get to a half a million dollars? What did they do to get to a half a million dollars is transferable to every industry.

• 1:24:43Speaker 04

  Got it.

• 1:24:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you understand what I'm saying? Don't worry about them.

• 1:24:45Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:24:45Patrick Bet-David?

  They, they, they find ways. They're resourceful. They'll find a way to win. The problem is the people that are like, "Oh, my God, you know, what's gonna happen? We're all gonna be replaced. What about this? What about that?" No. Use that energy to find a way to become irreplaceable. Use that energy to find a way to become so valuable for the company. Use that energy to, you know, improve yourself and sit there and say, "What if we do this? And what if we do that?" That, that opportunity is on the individual to improve. That's my opinion.

• 1:25:10Speaker 04

  I've got, I've got some major thoughts on this.

• 1:25:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Try to keep it short, because I want to go to next.

• 1:25:13Speaker 04

  I know. I'm, I'm gonna go super fast. I just don't want to get cut off, because I, I've been very silent on this. I've never been more convinced that the future looks bright. Ever. I think everything you said is so accurate about there's gonna be return. You said humans are gonna make a comeback. You know, it's kind of like, "Don't call it a comeback. We've been here for years." LL Cool J, shout out. I think there's gonna be return to normalcy. I think a couple of different things are gonna happen. Feminism is gonna have to be rewritten. What, what it means to be a man needs to be rewritten. Uh, and what it needs to be a young person in America, trying to make that money and save that money needs to be rewritten. And I'll just break those three down. I think for a man, you have two paths at this point. Uh, in the future.

• 1:25:54Speaker 04

  You can go the STEM route, the tech route, get awesome at that. Or the, "I'm a human in society" route. And I'm not behind a computer, per se. And I'm working my hands. I'm a laborer, I'm a construction. Or I do sales. I manage relationships. People helping people, no pun intended. People be, are being around humans is never gonna go away. Even as we get more data inefficient and more what I call geek squad. Those are the two opportunities for men. And obviously, at any point, you want to start a family, you gotta, "Women, your game is changing, ladies." Because going to college for all these useless degrees and getting saddled with debt. And by the time that you figure out what you're gonna do with your life,

• 1:26:36Speaker 04

  you're 34 and nobody necessarily wants to settle down, because you've been a career woman and a boss babe. That's all going away, ladies. And let me tell you, that's gonna be a great thing for society. Because notice all the jobs that the ladies are gonna do in the future. It's all baby-making and baby taken care of. It's nurses, it's teachers, it's babysitters. There are no more paralegals. There's no more random office jobs. So ladies... And for PBD, you know what this is gonna mean?

• 1:27:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Hmm.

• 1:27:04Speaker 04

  There's gonna be making a whole lot more babies. That's your dream, is it not?

• 1:27:08Patrick Bet-David?

  No, listen.

• 1:27:08Speaker 04

  I think men are gonna be laboring, laying pipe, literally, figuratively, and I think women are gonna be taking care of kids. And the last thing for the young people, one thing is universal, I've never been so convinced of this. Skills pay the bills, degrees pay fees, straight up. Talking about, I would say, keep your costs low, your flexibility high. You don't know where you're gonna be moving these days with AI, with unemployment. If you get good at your job and you know what you're doing, and you're laying pipe, you know, necessarily, I think the future looks bright, Ben.

• 1:27:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay, fantastic. All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Bezos. I want to show a couple clips of Bezos, Rob, if you want to pull those up. So, one by one by one, you know, he is just, you know, making point after point after point with this interview with, is it Sorkin? Aaron Sorkin, am I saying it correct?

• 1:27:58Speaker 04

  Andrew Ross.

• 1:27:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Andrew Ross Sorkin. Right.

• 1:28:00Speaker 04

  That's Tom's boy.

• 1:28:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is doing a great job.

• 1:28:03Speaker 04

  No, he's the CNBC anchor in the morning.

• 1:28:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Which clip is this, Rob? Is this the one about the 1% and the bottom 50%?

• 1:28:09Speaker 04

  This is the Wapo clip.

• 1:28:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the Wapo clip. So, watch this, look at the way he's being asked, where it's like, oh my God, a gotcha question. Hey, how about all the people you laid off at Wapo? This is basic business, common sense. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 1:29:37Speaker 05

  Talking about markets.

• 1:29:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:39Speaker 05

  I was asking about the news market.

• 1:29:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:42Speaker 05

  Because you own the Washington Post.

• 1:29:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:29:44Speaker 05

  And one of the critiques, by the way, and this is maybe the wealth critique and everything else is, you know, we just said, the company laid off about 30% of its staff. And there's a lot of people out there who said Jeff's super wealthy. He's talked about this being a public trust, it's something that he bought early on. How much you care about that piece of it.

• 1:30:07Speaker 05

  Why lay people up? Why fire people? Why do you subsidize the business if in fact?

• 1:30:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Because the Post needs to be a profitable enterprise that stands on its own two feet.

• 1:30:17Speaker 05

  Does it?

• 1:30:18Patrick Bet-David?

  It needs to be.

• 1:30:18Speaker 05

  But does it?

• 1:30:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:30:19Speaker 05

  I mean, that's the question. Some people say it should be a trust.

• 1:30:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And let me tell you why.

• 1:30:22Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:30:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it's a measure of its relevance. If people won't pay for our product, we're not doing, it's not good enough. It's really well. It's like, you know, doing, it would be like poetry without rhyming. It's too easy. So we want, it's got to be something that people will pay for because that's a signal.

• 1:30:44Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:30:44Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a signal that we're providing a relevant service. Your paper, The New York Times, you guys make a ton of money. You guys are doing very well financially and you're providing a service that people are willing to pay for. We can do that too. And guess what I told them, you know, when we were planning those layoffs?

• 1:31:00Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:31:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't pick who was going to get laid off or which departments. I said, follow the data. Follow the data. And I said, there's one exception to this.

• 1:31:08Speaker 05

  What's that?

• 1:31:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't follow the data on investigative reporting. The heart of the Post is investigative reporting. And guess what? Our newsroom today, even after the layoffs, is still larger than when we did Watergate and the Pentagon Papers. And so, and we just won the Pulitzer Prize for public service, the most prestigious prize, but most prestigious Pulitzer, for our investigation into Doge. Tom, so what do you, what do you think about the way he's breaking this down about Wapo and why he let go of 30% of his people?

• 1:31:44Speaker 04

  Basically, what he's pointing out is that there's a fable that's in the middle of the question there. And the question is like, why isn't it a trust? And what that is, that's Sorkin kind of speaking to the New York Times that bought his business. Remember, Sorkin was an entrepreneur and sold his business for a lot of money, Dealbook. And so now he's out, well, why isn't the news media a trust? And all of a sudden, he gets the facts back. And I think that this is what every entrepreneur in America understands. If I run a pool cleaning business, and I've got 100 pools that I'm cleaning, and I've

• 1:32:25Speaker 04

  got four guys, and I'm losing a little bit of money, and three of my guys are not that busy, then I gotta do it with three guys. Because I'm protecting the jobs of the three. Nobody looks at what you're protecting or building. They always look at the other side. Because Sorkin's just trying to find the gotchas, trying to find the angle in the interview there. And that's kind of disappointing to me. Now, should he be asking the question? Sure. But he shouldn't be so surprised that an entrepreneur says, wait a minute. Words talk, numbers scream. We have a bigger newsroom than we did underwater gate, which is one of the great legacies and great accomplishments and the great history, storied history of the Washington Post. We've got that. Don't judge it by the investigative reporting, we need that.

• 1:33:10Speaker 04

  Follow the data on everything else. And it's like, are you contributing value? And then he whips it back around and says, hey, the New York Times, people want to buy that. The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal is kind of interesting. They're both in New York, and they're down the street from each other, and both of them have done better digitally than any other papers out there. Who's done better digitally on subscription than the Times and that? So what do I think? I think Bezos is speaking the truth. Bezos is speaking like an entrepreneur, and there are stuff for people to learn there. If you're running a t-shirt company in Berlin, or a small software company in Nebraska, you have something to learn right there. If it's profitable and it's making it, you bet on it. And if it's not, you have to look at trimming or doing something else.

• 1:33:53Speaker 04

  Just a fact and the insidious angle that says, well, maybe turn it into a trust or something. Bezos is under no obligation to run a nonprofit to build a newsroom simply because you want another liberal voice in America. Sorry.

• 1:34:10Speaker 05

  Well, it touches on actually the kind of socialist mentality we were talking about earlier. What he said is the oldest free market argument in history. And he said it, he said it beautiful. If it's not producing, if it's not profitable, that's a sign of its lacking relevance. Or he said, if it is profitable, that's a sign of its relevance. That is everything. That's the market feedback you get to know if what you are doing has value. Everything great we created in society, people talk about this with medicine. They say like, oh, well, why does this medicine cost this much? These companies are incentivized to create these things for us because they can then make money off of it. If there is no profitability there, creation dies. And so he's making the ultimate argument here that if he's making relevant news that people want to pay for, then he knows he's making good news. The argument that you should be losing money

• 1:34:56Speaker 05

  means that your, your entire infrastructure is not functional. So exactly what Tom said. I mean, it's the, it's the capitalist free market.

• 1:35:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you have the money. Why don't you do it if you have the money? Why do you need to do this? Why do you need to sell merch? Why do you need to do all this stuff to keep making the money? Why do you? It's, it's how this thing works. The incentive for people to continue building something, not the other way around. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:35:15Speaker 04

  I've got a different take on this. Uh, not necessarily a Wapo take, but like more of a societal, cultural take.

• 1:35:23Speaker 04

  The, the article that you just read, what was the second article after that? It said that Zoran Mamdani rebuffs Jeff Bezos comment on rising taxes. So a few years ago, I remember when it was Elon Musk versus Zuck or Elon Musk versus Bezos. Now it's those guys?

• 1:35:44Speaker 04

  Zoran Mamdani, AOC, shouldn't there be like tens of thousands of?

• 1:35:49Speaker 04

  on jobs in New York right now that AOC didn't want. God forbid that you want jobs to pay your people hundreds of thousands of dollars. So I have a message to AOC and to Mom Donnie. Thank you. As a Miami and as a Floridian, I generally just want to thank you for bringing all this money and all this wealth and all this opportunity to Florida. PBD, where were you X amount of years ago? California.

• 1:36:15Patrick Bet-David?

  California.

• 1:36:15Speaker 04

  Came to Florida. Jeff Bezos, born and read in Miami. He's half Cuban Miami Palmetto graduate Miami came to Florida. By the way, where where's he doing this interview? It's on the top left corner. Merritt Island, Florida. Everything's in Florida. The Google boys came to Florida. Zook bought a property in Florida. Your your boy Messi moved to Florida. A couple of blocks from a couple of houses away from you. Ken Griffin, thank you, Mom Donnie, for what you're doing to Ken Griffin. Go in front of his house again, please. We want all the money. We want all the wealth. We want all the opportunity. We want all the innovation here in Florida because we're the best in New York. You're the worst now. So Miami in the last 10 years has gone from a party city. And believe me, I know it to a money city.

• 1:36:58Speaker 04

  And we got so much money and wealth and opportunity down here. What's the famous jerky boy thing Pablo? Pablo, you you coming home? Come to Florida. Come to Florida. Come to Florida, everybody. Welcome. And that's what I think is going on here is Jeff Bezos is basically choose your enemies wisely. The enemy of an enemy is a friend. The billionaires, the tax guys are like, all right, guys, we might be competing, but these guys want to take all our money away.

• 1:37:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:22Speaker 04

  So let's unite.

• 1:37:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me get to this next story. And by the way, all of this stuff you're saying, it's great. But I'm going to tell you something here, Adam, that that the conservatives have to pay very, very close attention to going into 2028. I'll tell you what that is. Is AOC. She is watching the pain. Americans are feeling with AI data centers. So what does she do? She does a new, I want to say documentary where AOC goes and visits Trump country, where voters embrace her and fight over new data centers. Because you're going to see 2028 issues change. Every election issues change. Immigration, border, you know, transgender, you know.

• 1:38:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever it's gonna be, technology, technocrats, every, you're gonna see this being one of the topics in 2028, 2027, it'll be a top 10 issue that'll come up. Trump supporters in rural Georgia say they need help in their fight against a new data center in their town from an unlikely ally, ready? AOC. If there's a chance that anything can be done, I feel like she's going to be the one to do it, says Beverly Morris in a new short documentary put out by More Perfect Union. Rob, do you have the clips of this, or is it just AOC speaking on this topic?

• 1:38:42Speaker 04

  This is just AOC, but she shows the water from the wells and what the data centers have done.

• 1:38:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:38:48Speaker 06

  I have a jar right here.

• 1:38:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's disgusting.

• 1:38:51Speaker 06

  This is the current drinking water in Morgan County, Georgia. Right after a data center was constructed, the metadata center was constructed, the only difference between the clean water and this was that data center.

• 1:39:08Speaker 04

  On the plumber.

• 1:39:09Speaker 06

  I have another one as well. So this wasn't just one well, this wasn't just one family's situation.

• 1:39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  How do we know she's gonna get some pond water? We don't. Did it for show. I mean, what are we doing? Now we're just trusting AOC?

• 1:39:24Speaker 05

  Well, no, we do know there's environmental impact from data.

• 1:39:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's hold that accountable. That doesn't mean we shouldn't build data centers.

• 1:39:30Speaker 06

  These families now have to ship, in a rural area, have to ship water to their house in order to cook and bathe themselves. Now, I'm curious if the EPA plans any investigations on how data centers are affecting water quality and availability. I understand what you said about the rule, but are there gonna be any open investigations on this issue?

• 1:39:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So as soon as I get back to the office, I will be looking into exactly what you've just talked about, because anywhere, whether it is, whatever type of construction it is, it is a priority to ensure that... Do we have a clip of the documentary?

• 1:40:03Speaker 04

  I'll see if I can find one.

• 1:40:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, so, so the point here is, as much as we're talking about all this stuff, with everybody coming to Florida, the wealth going to Texas, the wealth going to, I mean, capitalists, 100%, I get it. But a society has to also be a good society for the average kid coming out of college. There was another guy that just gave a college commencement speech, Rob, I don't know if you saw that one. He gave a college commencement speech where he got booed and he doubled down and says, I don't care if you're booing. Let me tell you, it's just the truth. I don't know if you saw that or not. Did you see that, Elon? Oh, I didn't, but. Rob, did you see it? There was a guy giving a commencement speech and he was just kind of doubling down on being a, there's many words I can use. But just being an asshole. My kids are like, boo.

• 1:40:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, if a 22-year-old graduating college, their lives is not better, not that it was a guy. Their lives are not better. They can't afford to get married, have a house, have kids. And you just say, well, that's your problem. If we think that way, you're screwed. I think this is the guy, Rob. Go ahead.

• 1:41:06Speaker 03

  Streaming rewrote the economics. Social media rewrote the discovery model. AI is rewriting production as we sit here. I know it. Deal with it. Like I said, it's a tool.

• 1:41:25Speaker 03

  Hey, like I said, you can, you can hear me now or you can pay me later. Good line.

• 1:41:31Speaker 04

  That's a good one.

• 1:41:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's a good.

• 1:41:34Speaker 03

  Hey, then do something about it, okay? It's a tool. Make it work for you.

• 1:41:38Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the guy's name? Uh, his name is... What's, Rob, Tom, do you know who this guy is? Scott Borchetta. Who is he? Great last name. Kind of feel like going to an Italian restaurant. I feel like eating bruschetta. What is, uh, what is he doing? Alper. CEO of Big Machine Records. I believe that was the record label that originally signed Taylor Swift. Okay, so is, is he a money guy? Is he a money guy? Type in net worth, Rob, let's see where he's at.

• 1:42:02Speaker 04

  He's a record executive.

• 1:42:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he a record, he's like a, uh...

• 1:42:05Speaker 04

  You won't find favorable.

• 1:42:06Speaker 05

  450 million.

• 1:42:07Speaker 04

  Nah, so he's not... Not really a money guy.

• 1:42:09Speaker 05

  He's kind of on the low end.

• 1:42:10Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not a money guy. He's doing okay for himself.

• 1:42:11Speaker 05

  Top, top 5%.

• 1:42:12Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but I tell you.

• 1:42:13Speaker 04

  Unless you're worth a bill, I don't want to hear from you.

• 1:42:15Patrick Bet-David?

  As you're going through issues that are going on with low and middle income families, if you don't pay attention to the stuff that's going on with AI data centers, if you don't pay attention to the stuff that's going on with affordability, if you don't pay attention to the stuff that's going on with AI replacing jobs and if your kids have, a person like an AOC will come up and say, this is why the only institution that can go up with these bully technocrats is the government. You need, this is what they're gonna say.

• 1:42:42Speaker 05

  Uh huh, 100%.

• 1:42:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You need us to go fight off these technocrats,

• 1:42:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:42:46Patrick Bet-David?

  trillionaires and billionaires and we're here to save you and we're not gonna let them touch you or do anything to you. That's what I think is coming next. Elon, your thoughts?

• 1:42:54Speaker 05

  No, you nailed it on the head. You're starting to see a realignment, even of guys from Bezos, who was historically critical of Trump, starting to even realign himself with Trump. You're seeing these weird fracture points that are beyond the traditional left and right. What he's touching on, by the way, is one of those fracture points. It doesn't matter if you're conservative. If you're affected by job loss or you're affected by data centers polluting your water or affecting your environment in where you live in a small town, you're going to start aligning yourself with the people who are speaking to you. And if the right doesn't pick up on that, if it doesn't start touching on that and the importance of that and speaking to people who are affected by this and will be far more affected in the future, then someone like AOC will come up. And she's, you know, she's surprisingly charismatic when she's on point. She's dangerous in that sense.

• 1:43:37Speaker 05

  So, yeah, I think the, the talking points have to shift from traditional left versus right talking points to what are the things really affecting Americans today? This is a big one, and if you don't talk to Americans, you're gonna lose them. Tom?

• 1:43:48Speaker 04

  You can look back, you know what? And I'm gonna draw a parallel here. You can say what you will about Bernie Sanders, and we've all joked about him, I've joked about him pretty much. It's fun. But what I respected, what I respect about him is not his position, but you have to respect an opponent in the political stage. And what was his message that carried so much young vote of this older senator?

• 1:44:14Speaker 04

  Student loans. Mm hmm. Student loans were big. People couldn't feel they could afford them. Even though we say, you bought the car, you got the loan. That's what we said. You bought the education, you got the loan. People were saying, I had no choice. It was expensive. I got into college. I wanted to study this or study that. They don't see the choices they made in there and the willing choice there. They see expensive student loan, that the student loan processors and administrators were acting really badly. Guess who surfed that wave? Bernie. Bernie surfed it and he talked about wiping out student loans and making education free. And that resonated to people in the point of education.

• 1:44:57Speaker 04

  Now we have someone even more charismatic, even more dynamic, going deep into Trump country, into a county he carried by 60 points and carrying the mantle for data centers. And data centers is the symbol of that which is more data centers means more AI. More data centers means my expense. You look at polling right now, Pat, you know what the word people associate with data centers? Expensive near me. I'm gonna, if those are near me, it's gonna be expensive for me. It's gonna be expensive for me. Electricity is what they focus on. But now what they sit back and you say, that's a data center. Now the data center is also about, you know, other problems near me.

• 1:45:39Speaker 04

  The environment near me and most of all, data centers drive AI. AI drives jobs. All these CEOs keep talking about AI and job loss. So guess what? She has her populist point. And unless we get on top of this and unless, and this is what, I have been making this statement now for five months. I look back at the first time I said on the podcast. You need to stand up and say, data centers need to pay for their own infrastructure if it affects water and electricity because that's part of the public good. Hundred percent. So you need to get permits for the small nukes and you need to look at the, the sounds because some of them, I found out it's not all of them, some of them that use certain cooling are loud as hell apparently. Confirmed? We saw the video. And there are others that are not very loud.

• 1:46:24Speaker 04

  Okay, well then, we need non-loud data centers that don't bring up the price of electricity. So that people are not impacted. But the flip side of it, people are still saying, man, data centers, Pat? That means AI and AI is taking jobs. And a populist like AOC becomes very.

• 1:46:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and by the way, if you look at this year, when it says seven in 10 Americans oppose local construction of AI data centers, it doesn't say seven in 10 liberal Americans.

• 1:46:48Speaker 04

  It's, yeah.

• 1:46:48Patrick Bet-David?

  It doesn't say seven in 10 Republican Americans. It said seven in 10 Americans oppose local, and this is from Gallup, not CNN, not Fox. It's just telling you where the American people are at. So, you have to check the polls going into 27, 28. This is a real issue. And then, you know, there could be some decisions you could make. You could say it could be 10 miles away from where there are schools. It could be 50 miles. It can be, we got plenty of places to build that the local city will not be disrupted. Uh, but, but there's, there's a lot of conversation. By the way, the, the typical argument they make, Tom, you know what the argument is made? The argument is made, well, it's us or China. Who do you want to win? Right? It's us or China. And, and, you know, it's us or, you know, what are we gonna do? We're gonna lose this battle?

• 1:47:32Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna let other people win this battle? Or what? Where it's a fair conversation to have. And again, all I'm thinking about, a guy that follows the sport of politics, is what are, what are gonna be the main things? That's Steve Hilton, you're, yesterday. Was it yesterday or two days ago? Yesterday, right? He was here yesterday and I'm, I'm just sitting there watching for myself. And I'm like, are you doing this? Are you doing that? What are you guys doing about this? What are you guys doing about that? And I'm, I want to make sure this guy has a chance at winning because you'd love to see California have a different person. Most people don't even know this. 61 years out of the last 100 years, the governor in California was a Republican. Let me say that one more time. 61 of the last 100 years, the governor of California was Republican. It's been a fairly Republican state, majority of the time until lately. They've had more governors

• 1:48:17Patrick Bet-David?

  that were Republicans than Democrats. You'd love to see that happen to them.

• 1:48:21Patrick Bet-David?

  But you have to go and see the pulse and the pulse today going into 2728. This is, this is an issue that people are thinking about. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:48:29Speaker 05

  I'm with you 100% on the conversation about data centers. I'll say this. People have every right to question, all right, what's going on here, guys? Because as humans, because we're returning to humans again, human normalcy. We fear the unknown. We don't know what's going on. Like, you go and ask my mom about Bitcoin. Oh, my God, they're gonna steal my money. Like, but that didn't stop us from having Bitcoin and the internet and the automobile. Like, technology grows our societies. The entrepreneurs are going to continue their business as they should. We should be fearful of China. We should be fearful of these other countries. So we're gonna use this as a force for good. Is a gun a good thing or a bad thing? Is the internet a good thing or a bad thing? Is a smartphone a good thing or a bad thing? Well, I'm glad we have them.

• 1:49:12Speaker 05

  So the local, you know, they say all politics is local. The local conversations need to be had over data, data centers. But on the top 10 issues, if you're talking about this, uh, these local towns that AOC is just charming over. All right, cool, data centers, we may agree on. Let's go over the another 10 issues. Do we see eye to eye on any of them? The open borders, the transport stuff, the godlessness, the Marxist stuff, the wokeness? It's like, no, no, no, no. All right, data center, maybe. So the right better get a hold of this data center thing so they don't use the affordability and economic conversation during midterms. But all the other issues for your normal Americans?

• 1:49:57Speaker 05

  I don't see AOC charming the pants out of them all.

• 1:49:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you stay there.

• 1:50:00Speaker 05

  Other than in Brooklyn.

• 1:50:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you stay there, let me tell you.

• 1:50:04Speaker 05

  We still bring up Bernie 10 years ago.

• 1:50:07Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but let me tell you.

• 1:50:08Speaker 05

  As if normal Americans are still falling for that.

• 1:50:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You pissed off Rob right there.

• 1:50:11Speaker 05

  The young people are... Rob, put your pants on, dude.

• 1:50:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, so here's what...

• 1:50:15Speaker 05

  Young people are susceptible. But older people who are not living on social media all day? They know a little bit more normal.

• 1:50:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Screaming doesn't make your argument right.

• 1:50:23Speaker 05

  I was yelling at Rob.

• 1:50:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I understand that. Let me tell you what I'm saying here. If you get, at the end of the day, men are dangers to society when they don't have what?

• 1:50:33Speaker 05

  Jobs, work.

• 1:50:33Patrick Bet-David?

  What else?

• 1:50:34Speaker 05

  Purpose.

• 1:50:35Patrick Bet-David?

  What else? Women? What else? Okay, can we say those are the top three? Oh, yeah. Men are dangers horrible to society. If they don't have those three things, then I would put hope as well. Yeah. And faith is one of those categories, but specifically it's what? Purpose. Money, purpose, you know, a family, a woman in their life, friends, okay. Basically, don't be a loser. So if these disruptions happen, thank you, if these disruptions happen, it's funny, these batteries get bigger, but they die sooner. How the hell does this happen with technology? The biggest one die the fastest ones, like I just wanna. They're stealing the computer power. The ones that would last a long time, so. You're just. But if you, if we're not, if we all of a sudden see regular, by the way, when is election? When is, when is presidential election?

• 1:51:20Patrick Bet-David?

  How long do we have? November of 2028. November of 2020, how long do we have till then? Two and a half years. Two and a half years, okay, so, so here's a question for you. You ready for this question, Tom? I got, I got a question for specifically Tom, you can give this answer too. You ready? We are 900 days away from presidential election 2028.

• 1:51:40Patrick Bet-David?

  If Anthropic CEO Vinnie said unemployment could go to 10%, let's go worst case scenario. If AI, by the way, I, I had a dinner with a guy two nights ago, very, very, uh, uh, uh, successful guy financially, him and his wife, beautiful couple. Uh, uh, he was in a meeting with Larry Ellison. And Larry Ellison, guess what Larry Ellison said? He said in, in around five years, there's gonna be more robots around the world than human beings. He said five years, he didn't say 20 years. He said five years. Larry Ellison said. And Larry Ellison doesn't just say shit. The guy's worth anywhere between 200 to 400 billion dollars on any given day, I don't know where he's at today. He's worth 200 to 400 billion dollars, he's 235 today. He's a top five guy, top 10 for sure. But he's a top five guy, but he may be a top two guy in

• 1:52:25Patrick Bet-David?

  voice behind closed doors, yeah. So, what do you mean robots are gonna outnumber, number of people in five years? He's saying this, okay? Nah, that'll never happen, how quickly did language learning models change everything, very quickly? All right, Tom, worst case scenario. If AI is going as fast as it is, how, how advanced you think coding's gonna be in two years? How advanced you think coding will be? May of 2028.

• 1:52:53Speaker 04

  28, um, I, I'm on the camp that I think we're gonna see a doubling in the next 24 months of coding capability. The number of lines written per position or number of lines written per, what you wanna measure? It'll be 2X the number of overall lines written driven by AI at the top end.

• 1:53:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me the best case scenario where unemployment will be October of 2028.

• 1:53:16Speaker 04

  Best case?

• 1:53:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Best case scenario.

• 1:53:17Speaker 04

  For the election?

• 1:53:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep, October of 2028.

• 1:53:20Speaker 04

  I'm thinking 5 to 7.

• 1:53:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you hear, best case, Tom is saying 5 to 7%.

• 1:53:26Speaker 04

  Unemployment?

• 1:53:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:53:27Speaker 04

  Right. Best case?

• 1:53:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:53:28Speaker 04

  What is it right now, 4?

• 1:53:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, I don't know where it's at right now, Rob, we're at 3.5 to 4.5%. I didn't say worst case to Tom. The question I asked Tom is best case.

• 1:53:38Speaker 04

  And can we agree that? By the way, I'm not pulling that out of the air.

• 1:53:40Patrick Bet-David?

  4.7% today.

• 1:53:41Speaker 04

  That's in Florida.

• 1:53:42Patrick Bet-David?

  No, go to US, Rob, not Florida. He didn't type in Florida. It just kinda come out of Florida.

• 1:53:46Speaker 04

  Can we agree the magic number that the Fed would like to keep at is under 5%?

• 1:53:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so can you go to unemployment?

• 1:53:52Speaker 04

  Never mind the Fed, we're talking about this.

• 1:53:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Nationally, where's unemployment right now nationally? 4.3%.

• 1:53:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:53:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Adam, what was my question to Tom?

• 1:53:59Speaker 04

  How soon, where will it be in 2 years?

• 1:54:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Best case. Unemployment, October of 2028. By the way, this isn't Trump's fault.

• 1:54:08Speaker 04

  No, this is natural evolution of technology.

• 1:54:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Natural evolution of AI. Okay, Tom, do me a favor, give me worst case.

• 1:54:14Speaker 04

  Worst case?

• 1:54:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:18Speaker 04

  And by this is cataclysmic?

• 1:54:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't, don't give me cataclysmic, just give me like, give me an 8. 8, not a cataclysmic, like an 8 worst case.

• 1:54:28Speaker 05

  8 on 10?

• 1:54:29Speaker 04

  I'm, I'm really concerned that it could touch 10.

• 1:54:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, perfect.

• 1:54:33Speaker 04

  Which is, which is not insane.

• 1:54:36Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but no, it's not, it is insane. It is insane.

• 1:54:39Speaker 04

  Let's, let's, where was it during COVID?

• 1:54:41Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you can't compare COVID. COVID, no, you can't compare COVID.

• 1:54:44Speaker 05

  COVID was an artificial temporary lockdown.

• 1:54:45Patrick Bet-David?

  COVID is an event that came and left in 6 months, so you can't compare.

• 1:54:48Speaker 04

  I'm just saying, where was it?

• 1:54:48Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not. If you go historically, you look at unemployment, look at the last time we had 10%. No, no, don't look at that. That's like when you do steroids TRT and cycle and all of a sudden you're like this, "Look at me, my testosterone level is 1200." Bro, get off all the shit and where are you at now? Well, it's really 382. No shit, like, go ahead, it's.

• 1:55:05Speaker 05

  I'm very motivated to take TRT.

• 1:55:07Speaker 04

  Fully agree with you that that was fake and this is real.

• 1:55:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but stay. So, so go, go to the time where it was a legit 10.

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• 1:56:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was during the Great Recession.

• 1:56:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, but why is that? Because of no income, no asset loan that came in?

• 1:56:38Speaker 04

  This is going to affect society more.

• 1:56:40Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not going to be a drop like that, buddy. No, this is unsustainable.

• 1:56:44Speaker 04

  You mean it's going to be a worse drop?

• 1:56:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:56:45Speaker 04

  So you're saying it can go to as much as 20%?

• 1:56:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me make my point. I didn't say 20%. What I am saying to you is the following. Per percent of unemployment going up, how many jobs do we lose? Rob, can you pull up?

• 1:56:56Speaker 04

  Percent?

• 1:56:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Per percent of unemployment.

• 1:56:59Speaker 04

  Million jobs?

• 1:56:59Patrick Bet-David?

  How many jobs? No, it's bigger than that. Per percent of unemployment, it could be a million jobs. It's 150 million people that we have working. So 1 and 1/2 million is per percent? I don't know what the number, just guesstimating. 1.5, 1.6 million.

• 1:57:10Speaker 04

  I was kind of close.

• 1:57:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you were kind of close. So you know what it means if 1.6 billion people are unemployed? Rob, can you tell me by how many votes? Trump beat Hillary in 2016. By how many votes? Majority went to who? Hillary. Hillary won 65.

• 1:57:29Speaker 04

  She won.

• 1:57:30Patrick Bet-David?

  She won the popular vote. Okay, so what is per percent? What is per percent? It's 1.6 million votes. How do you think they're gonna be voting? And by the way, if it's 2%, it's 3.2 million. If it's 3%, it's 4.8 million. Yeah. If it's 4%, it's 6.4 million. You wanna play this game? So where I'm going to from now, Republicans have to really sit there and realize, if you think socialism was being sold, where you're like, ah, the things I don't ever have to worry about in socialism. Really? Yeah. Okay, bro. You stay that cocky. No. If I'm an advisor to a candidate for 2028, we are not only talking messaging, strategies, ideas,

• 1:58:13Patrick Bet-David?

  ways to do things because we're entering a different era. This is the easiest it's ever been to create wealth, and this is the easiest it's ever been to replace anybody. Who is the anybody? Who is the anybody? It's the average day today. So when you're talking about the youth, the youth has won. But how about the 57-year-old guy that still needs eight more years to work because he's relying on his 401k and his pension? And all of a sudden, that guy who makes $117,000, you're peaceful to society? No problem. He goes once a month and eats at Cheesecake Factory. Anniversary, he goes to Hawaii once a year. He's pretty okay. He's happy. That guy loses it? No. Very quickly, will people say, look, I don't know what these guys are doing. They're becoming so rich, they don't even relate to me anymore. They forgot what it is to be a guy like me.

• 1:58:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I think I'm gonna test out socialism for one year. Yep. If you think for a second AOC doesn't stand a chance in 2028, you're delusional. You're delusional.

• 1:59:05Speaker 04

  Well, uh... Nobody saw Bernie coming. Remember Bernie?

• 1:59:09Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, nobody saw him coming. No, but it's the difference, Tom. This is the part that people like... Okay, do you realize? You see him on the same point. Yeah. What did Rudy Giuliani run on in 2004?

• 1:59:21Speaker 04

  Crime.

• 1:59:22Patrick Bet-David?

  2004, crime, safety, security? What did Rudy Giuliani... When did Rudy Giuliani run for president? He cleaned up New York City. Do you know why he didn't win? Because it was too local? No. Do you know the things he talked about that he didn't win? You know why Rudy, when he ran? Uh, uh, he ran a couple times or he ran one time, Rob? It wasn't the main issue at that point. No. What controversy caused Rudy Giuliani to not have a chance of winning in 08? Oh, in 08? What do you mean? What controversy? He ran for president. No, he ran for president, but there was a couple controversy that came out preventing from winning on 2008. What was it? The Bernard Kerik scandal. Yeah, we know that. May he rest in peace. The misuse of security funds contrasting Republican positions and a same-sex couple marriage. Okay, same-sex couple was one of them. You know when they asked Trump what he think about gay marriage?

• 2:00:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what Trump's answer was? I'm fine with it. No, he said, "Well, that's already a law. You guys have already made a decision. Let's go to next topic." Didn't touch it. Giuliani. His policies were 95% identical to Trump. He just ran eight years too early. If Giuliani runs in 2016, say Trump doesn't run, he has a shot at winning. If he had the energy of 2008, what's the point? Bernie Sanders maybe 10 years ago wasn't popular, 20 years ago wasn't popular. 2028, don't be too arrogant to think an AOC doesn't stand a chance. I have one number. Listen, I'm still, you know where I'm at and who I'd like to see have that nomination.

• 2:00:49Patrick Bet-David?

  It's still too early to tell, but you're delusional if you don't count her as a real threat. I hear you. I'll be real quick. In a weird way, when you say this and you continue to say this, Pat, it's making my blood boil. Well, I'm glad. And I'm getting, I'm like, dude. I'm glad it is. And I get the attention. People are not thinking that. And I get the attention. I have to be super, I'm just like, oh, Pat, no. But you're saying that people are fools and people are, no, they're not fools. Victim culture and then they'll buy into it. I'm not saying people are fools. I'm not saying people are dumb. I'm, I just told you, what does a man need before he becomes dangerous?

• 2:01:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Give the man money, give him a family, give him a purpose, entertain him, he won't cause chaos. Take those things away from him, he's a menace to society. If for every 1% that a man is not providing for his wife and he has to lay next to his wife and he's not providing, you, for every 1%, you're creating 1.6 million men who become menace to society. You can't afford to have that. But you're saying that that man...

• 2:01:54Speaker 04

  Who's upset is gonna vote for AOC?

• 2:01:56Speaker 05

  No, Adam, it's deeper. They're not voting for AOC, number one. Even me, I'm a diehard capitalist, right? Free market, I love it. I do see a shifting tide in the way things are going to be happening in the future. If there's a party in the future, regardless of left versus right, and you're talking about 1.6 million people per job, uh, per percent. That doesn't include their families who are affected by it. It doesn't include their friends who see it happening to them. It doesn't include the destabilization of the areas they live in where that's happening. So this affects far more than 1.6 million people per percent.

• 2:02:26Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 2:02:27Speaker 05

  I am a diehard capitalist and I am worried about where this is going and what my future will look like. And what my family's future will look like.

• 2:02:35Speaker 04

  And we all are.

• 2:02:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, so the person who's-

• 2:02:37Speaker 04

  But that doesn't mean you're gonna vote for the socialist.

• 2:02:38Speaker 05

  No, but it does mean that I will vote for the person who is speaking to me and, and providing me an option-

• 2:02:45Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 2:02:45Speaker 05

  In a situation where I feel like maybe I don't have any. So even if, and you'll see, people will vote irrationally when they're in a situation that is unstable. You see it all the time. Like I said, I made that documentary on mass psychosis. People look for comfort in instability. They will side with whoever is offering it to them, even if it's irrational. And it's a very dangerous place for society to be. And that can allow people who you disagree with on nine out of 10 topics to get your vote because you disagree on the 10th. Because it's, it's satiating that fear.

• 2:03:12Speaker 04

  So have better candidates than AOC is what I'm getting.

• 2:03:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You do, but, but not only have better candidates.

• 2:03:17Speaker 04

  I'm saying on the right.

• 2:03:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Have not just better candidates, because it's not about candidates. Look, what, what were the two or three events that caused you to go from being a never Trump or to voting for Trump? What were the issues? What were you, what were the issues that flipped you for the first time in your life ever to vote for a Republican president?

• 2:03:33Speaker 04

  For me?

• 2:03:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:34Speaker 04

  Oh, uh, reality.

• 2:03:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not reality.

• 2:03:37Speaker 04

  It was so many different issues. It was, the, the left is no longer the left. They are the far left progressive Islamist Marxist. They're, they're not Democrats anymore. If Bill Clinton was running now- I'd be like, let's hear what you gotta say, Bill. When AOC is running or Gavin's running, I'm like, no way.

• 2:03:52Patrick Bet-David?

  By 2028, how many trillionaires will we have in America?

• 2:03:56Speaker 04

  By 2028?

• 2:03:57Patrick Bet-David?

  How many trillionaires will we have in America?

• 2:03:58Speaker 04

  Probably just Elon, maybe another one.

• 2:04:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I think you're gonna have three to five trillionaires. I think Nvidia is on its way. I think you're gonna have, you're gonna have three to five trillionaires by 2028.

• 2:04:06Speaker 04

  So billionaires are the new millionaires, or the billionaires are the millionaires.

• 2:04:09Patrick Bet-David?

  There's, the wealth disparity is becoming like so wider.

• 2:04:14Speaker 04

  For the MAG7, for the guys who built the best companies of all time in the history. I'm sorry, Anthropic wasn't part of the MAG7. Dario Moda is gonna be one of the. But where'd they get their money? He's on his way. Where'd they get their money? From the big boys upstairs? We're mashing around here. I'm gonna answer a question that Pat asked, that I think we're all for.

• 2:04:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And I wanna move on to the next topic.

• 2:04:32Speaker 04

  Can I answer the question you asked?

• 2:04:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. You asked, you said, how many people? 2016, Trump became president because of 76,000 votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. 76,000. Take that 1.6 million people, the 1% unemployment, that's 4.5% of it.

• 2:04:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep staying cocky, see what happens. Keep staying cocky.

• 2:04:55Speaker 04

  I'm, you follow that? You only need 5% of that 1% unemployment to vote the other way.

• 2:05:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep staying cocky and see what happens.

• 2:05:02Speaker 04

  But what do you mean by cocky? And I know you wanna move on, but what do you?

• 2:05:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep thinking that this is not a real threat. Listen. People know where I'm at. This isn't about a message of where I'm gonna vote.

• 2:05:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:05:13Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not about a message of where 90% of conservatives are gonna vote. This isn't about you. It's about what the 12% in the middle of the independent libertarians gonna flip to. You out of your mind? Like, you don't, so if you stay this cocky? Rob, make a note on, on predictions that we make to come back and check on this. Can you make a note, Humberto? Make a file on your notes of predictions that I said this today? Let's bring this clip back up in 2028, October. I can't wait for it. I can't wait for it. You know how many times I've talked to my guys that got too cocky and what happened to them? How did this happen? Play the clip of what I told you two years ago. Stop being so flipping cocky. The Republican Party cannot be cocky right now. And by the way, this is not Trump's problem.

• 2:05:59Patrick Bet-David?

  This isn't Trump's problem. Trump's gonna come and do his things in two terms. Republicans have to think about, this is post-Trump problem. Then what are you gonna be doing? Sit on the sidelines and don't do anything about this and think it's gonna be just a regular thing. Okay, so anyways, let's go to the next story. Next story I'm gonna go to is, let's talk about the San Diego shooting. Okay, so tragic San Diego shooting of what happened there. Out of nowhere, we're hearing all these stories of what happened. Let me kinda read some of the stuff to you and then Vinny and Elon, I'm gonna come to you guys on this. On May 18, 2026, at the Islamic Center of San Diego, the largest mosque in San Diego County,

• 2:06:35Patrick Bet-David?

  these two shooters, where authorities say they're 17 and 18 years old, come in, they kill three victims along with, you know, themselves later on in the car, which by the way, the video is in the car, one guy shoots the other guy, then he shoots himself, and you see the blast. But don't go watch the video, it's nasty, right, on what the video is. We're not gonna show the clip. Police say they are investigating the shooting as a possible hate crime. Officers reportedly arrived within about four minutes after the first emergency calls came in. The first emergency calls came in around 11:40, 11:45 AM time. The two suspects were found dead inside a vehicle two blocks away from the mosque.

• 2:07:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Security guard Amin Abdullah was praised as a hero after engaging the shooter and helping trigger lockdown procedures. Roughly 140 children inside the mosque's school were protected during the lockdown. Imagine these parents are sitting there worried about what's happening with their kids. You're a parent. No matter what your religion is, you're inside, you're worried about, wait a minute, what just happened? You know, who wants to see that? Nobody does. Another victim, Nader Awad, reportedly helped to draw the shooter away from the children and worshippers. Mosque elder Mansour Kazia, a longtime community member, was also killed. Investigators say suspects were likely radicalized online, communicated through their internet communities, focused on extremist content. I can go on and talk about what's going on with these guys. Investigators said the suspects appeared inspired.

• 2:08:00Patrick Bet-David?

  By mass attacks, including the 2019 Christchurch mosque shooting in New Zealand that took place. Sources say video allegedly showed the attack was posted online. So while this is going on, they find a manifesto. I don't know how many pages it is. I think 74 is what I heard. In the manifesto, in the manifesto, they're not on the left, they're not on the right, they're not, you know, they bash Jews. Their main thing is the number one threat to the world is Jews. Right? The number one threat to the world is Jews. Then they talk about Muslims. Then they criticize the LGBTQ community. Then they say the conservatives aren't going far enough.

• 2:08:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You become too soft. Then they criticize the liberal agenda, what they're at. And, you know, then they say they want to go take out the vice president. They threaten to want to take out the president, the vice president, a bunch of different, different names and stuff that they're going after. Extremely, you know, chaotic, traumatic event that obviously took place. Rob, is this the authorities giving the update of what happened?

• 2:09:03Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:09:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 2:09:05Speaker 03

  So I can confirm there has been a manifesto that's been recovered. I would reiterate, it's early on in the investigation. We are dedicating every resource the FBI has to conduct a thorough analysis of that manifesto to try to learn what led to this, but I think also more importantly, how can we stop future attacks? So I know there's a lot of questions related to this on the community. What I would just continue to reiterate is they didn't discriminate on who they hated. It covered a wide aspect of races and religions.

• 2:09:35Patrick Bet-David?

  More than just the Islam. You can pause it right there. Benny?

• 2:09:38Speaker 03

  Just evil, evil, and we've talked about it how many times, manifested in two people that I have a bunch of things to talk about, Pat. First and foremost, where'd they get these guns? Apparently, allegedly, Rob, did they steal them from the parents or the mother or something like that? Problem number one. Problem number two, and I love that you said it, because I got, people were messaging me like, how, why aren't you guys condemning it that they shot Muslims? And I was like, just, oh, and blaming us for our rhetoric about criticizing Islam and Muslims that this is what caused it? These guys hated Jews.

• 2:10:09Speaker 03

  blamed Jews for everything hated Trump wanted the left to murder Trump wanted left to murder JD Vance hated MAGA hated women hated gays hated trans hated Islam hated immigrants hated black people and there were incels okay and they said Jews were the number one problem and yet they go to a freaking mosque to shoot up so everybody out there messaging me from Islam and Mohammed shut the shut up okay and then on top of it to make things even crazier the security guard who was murdered actually shared the shooters pro Nazi ideology the shooters had SS markings on their stuff the security guard posted pro Hitler killing the Jews memes on social media which is weird and then the San Diego one of the shooters Pat walked out of a mental health treatment center the day before the massacre okay so how like how do the how does this slip through the cracks where are the parents where are the friends where's society looking at these two freaking people that are obviously open about their blatant hate for everybody and nobody says anything nobody like I guess two hours before Pat somebody mentioned something or the mom was like oh he's crazy and be careful okay so to blame this on somebody or asking other people why they're not talking about these people were

• 2:10:49Speaker 03

  walked out of a mental health treatment center the day before the massacre okay so how like how do the how does this slip through the cracks where are the parents where are the friends where's society looking at these two freaking people that are obviously open about their blatant hate for everybody and nobody says anything nobody like I guess two hours before Pat somebody mentioned something or the mom was like oh he's crazy and be careful okay so to blame this on somebody or asking other people why they're not talking about these people were

• 2:11:20Speaker 03

  bat you know what crazy and the ideology of these guys it it it just shows the horseshoe theory of politics very far left very far right becoming in this you can't even tell them apart that's it

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• 2:12:03Speaker 07

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  Tap the banner or visit usaa.com/autodisc量. Restrictions apply. Ylan. Yeah, I think this is a perfect example of what nihilism leads to and extremism and the type of rhetoric we see online. Just to bring up faith, I mean, this is a society that is losing faith and delving into extremism. Just the idea that all human life has value because it's created by God and is beautiful. And what you touched on is truly the most tragic part of all, is that the extremist ideology that these guys went online and you can see everywhere. I turn on Instagram, I turn on TikTok, I see Nazi rhetoric everywhere. It's become completely normalized. Dehumanization online is out of control. And the very ideology, because Amin Abdullah, the security guard who did tragically die trying to save the people. Neither of us is soul.

• 2:13:58Speaker 05

  Yes, because it is tragic. I don't care what religion you are, but all of it's tragic. But it's so tragic to me that the very ideology he supported comfortably online because he didn't understand the consequence of that kind of extremism, that Nazi ideology, because he wrote. Faux show on a, on a post about, do you now understand why Hitler did what he did? He commented faux show on that, that his friend posted. That very ideology ended up being responsible for ending his life tragically. Extremism never stays isolated to the group you might believe it targets. It's a cancer. It spreads throughout society. I always say the solution to this is to veer away from every message of identity politics, of extremism, all these things, and lean into God. Lean into faith and we're gonna see more and more of this. I opened the internet and all I see,

• 2:14:42Speaker 05

  and maybe it's my algorithm, is just violence and the acceptance and normalization of violence. Whereas when I was a kid and Faces of Death came out, that documentary-

• 2:14:50Speaker 03

  I remember that.

• 2:14:51Speaker 05

  It was devastating to watch it. It was hard to watch it. Now the comments, when we see this kind of extremism, are, oh, good, another one, or oh, you know, whatever. Just the most negative disgusting comments. We have to lean into God. We have to as a society. And you were talking about, humans want that connection. Humans wanna, that's how we're gonna save ourselves. We save ourselves through God. We save ourselves through society leaning back into that. Because again, this guy, Ibn Abdullah, was an extremist in his own ideology and beliefs as well. As tragic as it was.

• 2:15:19Speaker 03

  So when you say God, though, some people have different gods. I think-

• 2:15:22Speaker 05

  Well, you know what my answer to that is.

• 2:15:24Speaker 03

  And again-

• 2:15:24Speaker 05

  We are a Christian nation, period. End of story. That is the- Just like I won't go to Saudi Arabia and tell them to not be a Muslim country. If you're in America, we're a Christian country. And I don't see how that's controversial. Our foundational beliefs, our ethics and our morals are based on Christianity. I will fight for those ethics. I will fight for that moral foundation. Because it is the ultimate solution to the kind of devastating extremism and lack of identity that we see happening right now. Amen.

• 2:15:50Speaker 04

  Well, it's been said before, and you've said it, Pat. Professor Galloway, Scott Galloway has said it. When young men have a hole in their heart, and they have economic and relational hollowness, and, you know, I'll add everything else that we have to it. You don't have a sense of purpose in life. And what the society around you, and it's, your parents are responsible, they have to be involved. But when the society around you is not, is divided on purpose, and when we go into election season- And we're venomous to the point of wishing harm on each other. And that's the backdrop. That's not the cause of it. That's a backdrop. What do they put in their heart? You know, it's really funny. This isn't funny. I'm saying this is ironic.

• 2:16:35Speaker 04

  The Reverend E.V. Hill, who served young men in South Central Los Angeles, pointed out that that men at 14 to 17, it was critical for men to feel love, discipline, and respect. And that the broken homes, and he was speaking about African-American homes, the broken homes in downtown L.A., where there was not a father present, that the gangs provided love, discipline, and respect to these young teenage men in the exact opposite and horribly perverse way. And so people say, how could they join the gangs? They're finding the inverse of what their heart and their soul is crying out for.

• 2:17:20Speaker 04

  And now, and that, and this goes back. E.V. Hill passed away in 2003. So this is before the waves of social media and everything, but he was right. And now we're seeing it today. These young men are now able to dive in through online access to all of the other, you know, essences, to research the things these guys are researching, and become completely antisocial in its completion. And this is, we need foundation of family and faith. That's it. It's not a long speech from this man talking. Family and faith is a foundation that we need. Big brothers, big sisters, that's where, that's where we're gonna start the path forward.

• 2:18:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it, Adam. For sure, we need more God in this country. I was just lucky enough to be in D.C. meeting with Speaker Mike Johnson, and it was all about the main words where the speaker speaks, right where Donald Trump gives his speeches, "In God we trust." And he talked about Christianity in a Christian country and Judeo-Christian values. And as Mike Johnson's speaking, he looks right across. And he says, "Look at all the faces along the wall. Who's the face in front of all of us right now?" Because it's Moses. He gave us the Ten Commandments, which started all this. Old Testament, New Testament. Mike Johnson, very sharp, praise Christian, just all about everything American and Christian.

• 2:18:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Also does a great Trump impression, by the way. But this conversation about this San Diego church.

• 2:18:57Speaker 03

  Not a church, mosque.

• 2:18:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sorry, mosque. Never, I don't, I don't think it should be a controversial statement. You know, let's keep schools, religious organizations, structures.

• 2:19:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep the guns and shooting away. But I do find it somewhat ironic that a mosque that has been accused, and if not convicted, of radicalizing their population, has been basically been victimized by a, by radicalism, by just a different type of radicalism. Because I don't know how you much, like this brought attention to the mosque. What is this mosque? People want to focus on these two loser kids that have been racist and radicalized. But what's up with this mosque? Because they hate the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews. But they also hate the gays and the fags, da, da, da, ba, ba. But then I'm like, what's going on with this mosque? And this mosque turns out that the 9/11 hijackers, this was their mosque.

• 2:19:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And it turns out that the Muslim Brotherhood allegedly hanging out at this mosque. Follow the money, right? Turns out that CARE, not CARE like hearts, the Council for American Islamic Relations CARE is basically operating out of here. I'm just asking questions and connecting dots. But this specific mosque has been correlated with a lot of stuff that we need to look into. And of course, as much as recently as justifying terrorism and after October 7th. This mosque, as much as a lot of mosques, unfortunately, have gone from a place of worship, which it should be, to a national security threat. So this is a horrible thing and a tragic thing that happened here.

• 2:20:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And thank God that innocent victims were not killed. But at the same time, what's actually going on in this mosque? That's what I want to know. Rob, go back to where you were at a minute ago. Where were you at a minute ago on that Wikipedia where you found?

• 2:20:51Speaker 05

  That looked like Muhammad al-Ata, one of the hijackers from.

• 2:20:54Patrick Bet-David?

  The first hijackers, Arab United States, San Diego, California, January. And so you're going to do some, okay, got it. Hmm. Listen, I'm sure, I'm sure a lot of other things is going to come out as this is happening. The reality of it is, I don't care what side of the extremist it is, I don't want any of it. I don't want any of it, period. And zero, none of it. And God willing, you know, our FBI can get to the bottom of it to see what else we can learn from it to prevent other events happening in the future. With that being said, we are at the end of the podcast.

• 2:21:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Folks, if you didn't get a chance to go and pick up your Here Am I gifts for yourself or your loved ones, go to VTmerch.com, place your order before these things sell out, which they will, and support it in your communities. The more we represent, future looks bright, faith over fear, Here Am I, the more it'll inspire others to do the following. Like I told the story, every time I wait, future looks bright, people give me a look and they ask, "You really believe that? You really believe that?" I do. I, I, I do. I do believe that. Why? You know, my pastor, it's so funny, Tom, I don't know if you saw this or not, everyone's texting me saying, "You know, Dudley, Dudley did a video and he said something about you onstage." I'm like, "I can't find sermon, which one it was." He says, "Yeah, he did." And so, Rob, let me see if I can send this to you.

• 2:22:15Patrick Bet-David?

  He's doing a service at his church, and I'll try, I'll try to forward this to you to see if we can show it. And he opens up the sermon with, with this, which was fantastic. I love Dudley. We gotta figure out a way to bring Dudley to... He's such a great guy. I've been trying to get him to come down here to do a sermon. I wanted the churches, either Calvary or Presbyterian or a local Fort Lauderdale, Florida church, needs to invite him. We can pack the place out. So this is Dudley. He says this, "Rob, if you want to download it and play, maybe fast forward to, fast forward to like, right in the middle of it, right in the middle of it, when he, okay, right there is fine. Press play."

• 2:22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Just the greatest pastor in America, in my opinion.

• 2:22:53Speaker 04

  Would you thank all those people for me as well?

• 2:22:54Patrick Bet-David?

  The greatest pastor in America. He married us, love this guy.

• 2:22:59Speaker 04

  I have a friend named Patrick Bet David, and he always says, "The future looks bright." And I, I truly believe that when God sees these young people on this stage, worshiping the Lord with all of their heart, that, that nothing makes God as happy as that. Except for maybe when somebody comes to faith in Jesus.

• 2:23:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Jesus, amen. There you go. Amen. We're thankful for all of our young people here. Dudley, you are loved. Send a message to Dudley if you go to Shepherd and tell him we love him and we wish him nothing but the best. Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll do it again next week. God bless. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:23:32Speaker 07

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