The Snack: Epstein Emails, Taylor Swift's Bridesmaids, and Bravo Drama

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Epstein Emails + House votes to release the files Taylor Swift's bridesmaid speculation All the drama at BravoCon TV updates/reviews: All's Fair, Mormon Wives, I Love LA Headlines: Pennies are canceled, Cher on SNL, Devil Wears Prada 2 trailer Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Eternity from A24: In theaters everywhere November 26. Lola Blankets: Get 40% off your entire order at http://lolablankets.com with code GGE. Hungry Root: Get 40% off your first box and free item in every box for life at https://hungryroot.com/gge with code GGE Columbia Sportswear: Head to http://columbia.com to get your hands on an Amaze Puff Jacket. Saks Fifth Avenue: Make shopping easier this holiday season at https://saks.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Rayna Greenberg?

  This week on The Snack, the Epstein emails, Taylor Swift bridesmaids, and BravoCon drama.

• 0:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hello.

• 0:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi.

• 0:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're here.

• 0:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  And they're gonna release the Epstein emails.

• 0:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  As it stands, the House votes overwhelmingly to release the Epstein files, 427 to 1.

• 0:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Who's the 1?

• 0:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Representative Clay Higgins. Thanks for asking.

• 0:33Rayna Greenberg?

  What's Clay's problem?

• 0:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Out of Louisiana's 3rd District. Clay, get fucked.

• 0:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Clay, what is your problem? I need to know everything about Clay.

• 0:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  About Clay? Clay's a pedophile, is what Clay is.

• 0:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Clay's in the Epstein files. Tell me you're in the Epstein files.

• 0:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're really outing yourself here. You should've just voted. Now we really know. Now we're looking for your name.

• 0:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  So it goes to the Senate. I mean, obviously, I think we know what's gonna happen there.

• 1:05Rayna Greenberg?

  They're gonna strike it down?

• 1:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  But, yeah, the Senate's like, mm, we're different over here.

• 1:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Get Clay over here.

• 1:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Rena, can I tell you this DM I got? So the Eagles are 8-2.

• 1:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Congrats.

• 1:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Go Birds. I got a DM. This was Monday, from someone, just a stranger, a follower. "You oversold the Eagles game."

• 1:27Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 1:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  The staff-

• 1:29Rayna Greenberg?

  You, who doesn't play for the team. What?

• 1:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  "The staff and fans are incredibly rude. I am dressed in Eagles gear and paid $600 for my ticket. Entire experience has been garbage so far, and it isn't even halftime."

• 1:45Rayna Greenberg?

  She took... Oh, she's at the game. She's live tweeting this to you. Rude. People are rude. This is the fuck-around, find-out city of America.

• 1:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Rena, first of all, are you a fan, or did you fly from another city? Oversold it, like it's a restaurant recommendation? Are you the first person to tell her about this? What, I said last year we had fun at the game? What is this?

• 2:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Did she not know about the NFL, the Eagles, and Philadelphia before you mentioned... Sorry, Philly, that's a trigger for you. I said Philadelphia.

• 2:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  But what do you mean? I I'm a fan of the team. Where do you live? Where did you come from? And why are you acting like it's a restaurant I told you to go to? And you don't like the food?

• 2:26Rayna Greenberg?

  But you don't work at the stadium either. Like you oversold the staff. You were like, trust me, you gotta go there. It's the best service you're ever gonna get. It's the best hot dog anyone's ever gonna sell you.

• 2:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is that not the weirdest message?

• 2:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I love her.

• 2:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't.

• 2:40Rayna Greenberg?

  What is it like being that girl's friend?

• 2:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I don't love her. I like, I it's weird. Like, I don't know this person. It's weird. You're having a bad time for I don't know why. And you're blaming just someone who's a fan of the team. Did I ever say, you guys, you have to go to an Eagles game before you die? No, you do not have to. If you're not Eagles fan, I wouldn't recommend it.

• 3:02Rayna Greenberg?

  But, okay, most experiences are subjective, right? Some people might have fun at an outdoor football game, some might not. Has she been to an outdoor sporting event before? Maybe she doesn't like being outside. Like, I don't understand what you sold her that didn't live up to it. Like, has she watched television before? Has she seen people tailgating?

• 3:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  The fact that she is like, I spent $600, I bought an outfit, and I am gonna yell at Ashley Hessel time.

• 3:27Rayna Greenberg?

  She Yelp reviewed you in the middle of the game.

• 3:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Please, bitch, post that on the Lynx Yelp page. I came here because Ashley from tailgating told me to, and everyone was rude to me.

• 3:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm gonna just guess, I'm gonna venture a guess. It was her fault everyone was rude to her. A person who, it's the second quarter, she's sitting there like, I'm gonna message Ashley. I'm just gonna guess she was rude to every person on the way into that stadium.

• 3:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I know. Like, you're giving off bad energy. I have been in a crowd when we went last year, went to the game. Matt, Steph, me, and Chonky, we were body, like, pushed in. I'll try to put it on the screen, like, pushed in with strangers, just like, that's a bad moment. People started to feel claustrophobic, you started to feel intense, and it felt like all love. City of brotherly love, just body to body with a bunch of strangers, just all riled up.

• 4:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Yep.

• 4:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  So it's her, that's her problem.

• 4:20Rayna Greenberg?

  So I would like to walk something back officially. I didn't mean I love her, I mean, I love this. I feel like Got upset and I don't love her.

• 4:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is not behavior I would emulate. I would never do that. That's crazy.

• 4:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Right, because sometimes you love a villain.

• 4:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm curious what it's like to date her. How could you ever live up to her expectations?

• 4:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 4:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, how much money did she spend on this? And like, if she takes a vacation, she like, what is she like on a flight?

• 4:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Or at a hotel?

• 4:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 4:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I want to know everything about her and Clay.

• 4:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Where did she?

• 4:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I think you missed that and that was amazing.

• 4:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Her and Clay, sorry. I think she's from, I think she's from Wisconsin.

• 4:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Does her bio say wife, mom, and yoga teacher? Live, laugh, love.

• 5:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  It doesn't. She sent me some other message too. Her tone, I don't love.

• 5:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I do love the moment when I see somebody that's like talking shit to me and I scroll up and they had just like previously been being nice four years ago and I'm like, what did I do to you?

• 5:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. You know what you did.

• 5:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Sold them an Eagles game, I guess, that they didn't enjoy.

• 5:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Took $600 out of their pocket.

• 5:17Rayna Greenberg?

  That's crazy.

• 5:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 5:19Rayna Greenberg?

  All right, well, let's thank our partners and we'll get right into it. Thanks to Eternity from A24 in theaters everywhere on November 26th, so this Thanksgiving. And Lola Blankets, get 40% off your entire order at lolablankets.com with code GGE. And Hungry Root, get 40% off your first box and a free item in every box for life at hungryroot.com slash GGE with code GGE.

• 5:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to Columbia Sportswear. Head to columbia.com to get your hands on an Amaze Puff Jacket. And Saks Fifth Avenue, make shopping easier this holiday season at Saks Fifth Avenue or at saks.com. Okay, so we just have a quick announcement. It is a bummer, but we had to postpone the LA Holiday Show due to some unforeseen circumstances. We really were looking forward to the show. This is the city we live in and we'd never done a holiday show in LA before and you guys bought tickets. Some of you made travel plans and we hate to inconvenience you in any way and more than anything, we just hate to disappoint you guys ever. And so we are just so sorry about this and we really hope you understand and we appreciate that from you guys always. We promise we will make it up to you.

• 6:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  It won't be a holiday show this year, but we'll do something else special and we just are really, really sorry to let you down. And everyone who bought tickets was notified last Friday. And we did post on our story that day. We weren't able to get it into the Monday's episodes. This is the first episode we're recording that we wanted to, of course, let you guys know. But everyone who bought tickets knows. But we just at least wanted to make an announcement that unfortunately, that is real. And we will still have our New York show. So just the one this year. And that has been our tradition since 2018, since we started the podcast, is to have a holiday show in New York. So we will still have that. Tickets are still available. Check those out and see if you want to get tickets if you haven't already. And we'll see you there. We are really, really excited. I don't want

• 7:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  to, you know, hide it too much coming off the LA announcement. But of course, it'll be incredible. And I had a call this morning about some things that are really exciting. And we just have so many fun plans. And we can't wait to see you guys there.

• 7:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And LA, we are sorry. We love you so much. We will make it up to you. And New York, we just can't wait to see you there. It's gonna be a great show.

• 7:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So tickets for that show at girlsgottaeat.com.

• 7:29Rayna Greenberg?

  And we are doing a theme for your outfits.

• 7:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 7:32Rayna Greenberg?

  So it's just going to be a holiday theme. And you guys can interpret that any way you want. If you want to be a sexy Santa, or an elf. If you just want to wear like a holiday gown. Red, green.

• 7:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I love a gown.

• 7:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Sparkles.

• 7:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sparkle Megan. Sparkle eyes.

• 7:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Sparkle eyes. Be the artist formerly known as Sparkle Eyes. Someone will do it.

• 7:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So we've done like red and green shows, silver and gold shows. And we love that. And you should do that. Just sparkle it up. Wear those holiday colors. But also, if you want to do a costume. I mean, early days when we first started doing this, people were in full, yeah, sexy Santa, snowmen, grinch, sexy elves, Mrs. Claus, Rudolph, whatever you guys want to do. Just do your thing. And we'll see you there.

• 8:15Rayna Greenberg?

  We'll see you there. And that, those tickets, like Ashley said, girlsgottaeat.com.

• 8:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm so excited about my outfit.

• 8:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm so excited to go shopping for my outfit.

• 8:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  It is. It's booty-licious. I can't wait. I don't remember what it is. And I feel so weird about that.

• 8:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I literally sent you the link. And you were like, that's so incredible. I know. But we've, I feel like we've been looking at a lot of outfits for like recently.

• 8:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 8:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Well, I'll go back. I'm sure it's great.

• 8:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 8:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I remember the green dress you sent me. I remember the one you're not gonna wear.

• 8:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let's put it on screen.

• 8:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Wow.

• 8:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  I tried to.

• 8:43Rayna Greenberg?

  You tried to do a thing.

• 8:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I wore a high-low dress to the Vegas show last year. Loved it. It was this white dress from Revolve. And I really liked that vibe. I liked my legs out in the front and then a skirt coming off the back.

• 8:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Already in the front.

• 8:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  It looked really good. It was a mullet dress and it looked photographed well. So I found this green dress. I'm not going to say for where, but you can see. And it's frackin' all my clothes. It's where this is from. You can guess. And I put it on and I was like, this is the worst thing I've ever worn. And Chonky comes up. He's like, you look like a Christmas tree. I was like, he's never been more right.

• 9:16Rayna Greenberg?

  You took a risk. You never know.

• 9:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was so unflattering. It was really too much material. I looked like a big Christmas tree.

• 9:23Rayna Greenberg?

  But do you ever in the reverse, this happens to me a lot where like I will see some, I'll see somebody in an outfit.

• 9:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 9:27Rayna Greenberg?

  And I will reverse image search it. I'll find the outfit and I'll look the photos and I'll be like, I would never, based on like the model photos, purchase this, but on a person, it looks great. So like, I understand being like, I'm gonna take a risk.

• 9:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was just too poofy.

• 9:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. Is it giving like the Gramercy Theater like gowns that we wore?

• 9:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't even know. It's almost has like a little bit of that windsuit material. Everything's bad about it.

• 9:50Rayna Greenberg?

  It's why it looks waterproof?

• 9:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, it looks wat- it looks like weatherproof. It's like our Columbia Amaze Puff Jackets. It's got Omni Shill Technology. No, it's bad on every level. Like, I'm gonna put it on the screen and tell me if you would wear this or you know someone has ever worn it. So we can all roast them together like that girl's DM. It is green though, so go birds.

• 10:11Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, I'm not gonna wear much. I'm gonna just find this.

• 10:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not wear much.

• 10:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm gonna, that's, that's like five times the amount of fabric I would wear. I'm just gonna wear like a little sequin bodysuit.

• 10:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, you guys, please also dress like us. So if you wanna, if you wanna dress like me, you know, I'll probably be in some sort of corset situation and Rayna will be in an Ice Capade outfit. She will be Sabrina Carpenter.

• 10:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Ice Capade outfit. I do always look like I'm about to perform at the Olympics.

• 10:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  If it's something Nancy Kerrigan would have worn to the, to the number one, 1994 Winter Olympics.

• 10:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 10:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, let's kick it off strong with an Epstein report.

• 10:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Ashley, can I tell you this morning when like we were putting together the outline for this and I wrote Clinton slash Trump blowjob, I was like, I can't put this on an outline for our show. Like, what is happening this year?

• 11:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, did you know Bill Clinton's middle name is Jefferson? Which makes him BJ Clinton. How does the most famous blowjob enthusiast in American politics have those initials? Like, why is his nick-

• 11:20Rayna Greenberg?

  He was born to do it.

• 11:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was born to do it. Why is his nickname Bobo when BJ was right there?

• 11:26Rayna Greenberg?

  They were just like, it's too obvious. Give him something else.

• 11:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Obviously, his name is William. But this morning, I had this thought of like, Bill BJ, why don't they, are we calling him BJ Clinton? And I was like, let me look up his middle name. I was shaking. I was shaking, looking it up. I was like-

• 11:42Rayna Greenberg?

  You discovered this?

• 11:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  I discovered it this morning. I was like, do people know about this? Do people know about Bill Jefferson Clinton?

• 11:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I promise you, every publication is gonna copy us this week and every, it's gonna be in Cosmo. Like, you guys never knew this, it's BJ Clinton?

• 11:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  BJ Clinton! Do you think Monica knew?

• 12:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think Hillary knew?

• 12:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Reina, truly, with the release of this information, is he the most famous BJ lover in history?

• 12:09Rayna Greenberg?

  More than me.

• 12:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  No one loves a blowjob from this man.

• 12:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Just, no one is more famous, like porn stars aren't this famous. There aren't like, this is the most famous blowjob, the Monica Lewinsky blowjob was the most famous and there's a second most famous blowjob.

• 12:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Clearly, he does not care who he gets it from.

• 12:29Rayna Greenberg?

  He, no, a hole's a hole to that man. He doesn't care.

• 12:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I think this goes to show, like Hillary didn't have the time for that shit. She's like, the intern, Donald Trump, call your buddy Trump.

• 12:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Have Putin take pics.

• 12:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, so that's the thing, right? Do you believe this?

• 12:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Here's why I do believe it. Well, first of all, they're saying that that wasn't, it's a, you know, he tried to say it's a different Bubba.

• 12:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  So anyway, if you guys are, haven't been involved in this, there's just, all these emails were released, what, 20,000 emails?

• 12:57Rayna Greenberg?

  So 20,000 emails were released, a lot of them were between Jeffrey, I've seen his brother Mark.

• 13:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  J E E vacations at Gmail.

• 13:03Rayna Greenberg?

  That, the first thing I saw.

• 13:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  The email addresses, the grammar.

• 13:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Multiple commas.

• 13:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Shashank and I have been texting like Epstein emails ever since they dropped. We'll write something with three commas spaced out.

• 13:15Rayna Greenberg?

  You just, you thought these were like the most brilliant people and it's like, oh no.

• 13:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're disgusting people.

• 13:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely, absolutely not. Here's what I don't understand and why I actually believe it's, who emails this stuff? Why, every time I see people get caught doing stuff via email, I'm just like, you couldn't think of a different form of communication for this? You're emailing this.

• 13:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, but these people are always hiding in plain sight. Look at all the crimes Trump has committed brazenly. They're the same type of person. And so I just don't think, I don't think they're that smart. I hate that these were these high profile businessmen, like they're not smart, they're not careful. They don't have morals. They're gonna email about this stuff.

• 13:55Rayna Greenberg?

  A woman would never.

• 13:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 13:57Rayna Greenberg?

  A woman would never.

• 13:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  But her emails, shut the fuck up.

• 14:00Rayna Greenberg?

  That, that's how you know that there was nothing, a woman would never. And I just, I mean, there's text messages, there's phone, you're, emailing is like the number one thing where I'm like, I'm, I'm gonna get caught. There's too many people involved in this.

• 14:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. So anyway, all these emails were released and then I guess we're gonna get all of the files and the emails. I'm very confused on what the files are versus the emails, what do we have, what are we still looking for? But all these emails were released and there is one alluding to Trump blowing Bubba, which was Bill Clinton's nickname. And that is the biggest bombshell.

• 14:32Rayna Greenberg?

  And they're alluding to the fact that Vladimir Putin is blackmailing them because he has photos of it.

• 14:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, then we're going to war.

• 14:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Russia better look out.

• 14:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Rena.

• 14:42Rayna Greenberg?

  He's gonna bomb Russia.

• 14:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  If that photo dropped.

• 14:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like the hottest album.

• 14:49Rayna Greenberg?

  It's all I, I would ever want. I don't need, I don't need to accomplish anything for the rest of my life. I don't care. It's all I care about.

• 14:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Just on his knees.

• 15:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  So BJ Clinton and the throatus is what they're calling it. Did you see that? Not throatus.

• 15:12Rayna Greenberg?

  People voted for this guy.

• 15:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 15:14Rayna Greenberg?

  So, the Epstein files, you're asking, it's the case that they built against Jeffrey Epstein. It includes all of his correspondence with Ghislaine Maxwell and other people in the government who have covered this up for him, other high-profile individuals that... They're saying like, who's in the Epstein files? Like, all these people that helped this man, funded this man, went to the island, they were on the planes.

• 15:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Knew about everything.

• 15:33Rayna Greenberg?

  So, these emails are like a part of it. But what I don't actually understand, and I don't care, I'm not the news, is how some of the emails got released, but not all the files.

• 15:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't understand either. Like, we're just being breadcrumbed. I mean, we're gonna make jokes, but overall, it's just so sick. And Trump is all over these, duh, this is not a hot take. Like, he obviously knew about all this, he was with this guy all the time, they had a frenemy thing going on. Like, these are vile sex offender criminals, obviously.

• 16:08Rayna Greenberg?

  One of the emails, Jeffrey Epstein says that Donald Trump is the worst person he's ever met.

• 16:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 16:13Rayna Greenberg?

  It's astonishing, to be called the worst person you've ever met by that guy?

• 16:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, to have the most prolific sex trafficker of all time say, "I have met some very bad people, none as bad as Trump, not one decent cell in his body."

• 16:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it really, it rocks me to my core.

• 16:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can I tell you this? Speaking of the DMs I get, like, because most of them I love, and we have to highlight some of the negative ones, but I get really funny messages from you guys. This one girl messaged me, she said, "I'm dying at how half of the emails are about how Trump is a pedophile, and the other half are about how annoying he is and how much his other pedophile friends can't stand him."

• 16:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I crush your jokes.

• 16:52Rayna Greenberg?

  It is true, like, all these pedophiles are just making fun of him for being like gross and ugly. My favorite one was that email where they were talking about how there was like a bunch of young girls in the pool, and Donald Trump couldn't get outside fast enough and he ran into the sliding glass door.

• 17:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's such a joke.

• 17:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  These people make me so sick.

• 17:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, the other night at your Wednesday night dinner before your wedding, I ran into your sliding glass door. Your dad saw it and Buck and they just busted out laughing.

• 17:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 17:25Rayna Greenberg?

  You people run in that glass door. Everybody, I feel like that night, it was too clean.

• 17:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ruby came that day.

• 17:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I went straight into that door and Buck saw me and I was like, maybe he won't see anything.

• 17:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's so, it's, that's so funny because obviously I had my house cleaned that day and she comes in and she goes straight for those sliding glass doors. And not everyone would think about that, but they are crystal clear.

• 17:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Nothing is worse when that happens, like when you're just like, maybe no one saw it.

• 17:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Everyone saw it.

• 17:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Everyone saw.

• 17:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, so obviously this is all happening and we're in the thick of it. It'll probably be updates by the time this airs and this PSA came out and it was all these survivors who held up photos of them at the age they were when they were trafficked. This was produced by World Without Exploitation and the call to action is to send automated letters of support to your congressional leaders to release all of this. I am just so sickened by some of the responses. Megyn Kelly.

• 18:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Megyn Kelly, fuck you. Like, so if you guys don't know, Megyn Kelly was sort of breaking down what, um, what, what it means to be a pedophile and the semantics of, well, he wasn't sleeping with kids that were eight, they were 15. That's barely legal. That doesn't make him a ped- I mean, a woman?

• 18:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's a 14 year old daughter.

• 18:42Rayna Greenberg?

  A mother?

• 18:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's talking about 15 year old girls, like it's, she said, I knew that he liked girls that age, 15, for years. And she said it as in, we all knew this and it wasn't such a big deal because they're not five.

• 18:55Rayna Greenberg?

  She was bragging that she knew people that knew about this or were very close to it. Fuck you, Megyn Kelly.

• 19:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  You are so depraved. Like, girls under 18 are off fucking limits to grown ass men. Like, I can't even believe we have to say this. Like, and if you are not in age where you could have been in high school with her. Cause you know. You dated, for 17, you dated 19 year old.

• 19:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, that's some stuff, yeah.

• 19:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, you're a 30s, 40s, 50s, 60 year old man going after teenagers, even 18 year olds, even 19 year olds, but especially under 18. That's the line. Let's not talk about ages of consent in different states. That's when you sound like a fucking pedo sex offender when you start talking about the semantics of ages and this and that. Like, teenagers off limits to grown ass men. You're fucking disgusting. And like, I can't believe we have to say this. And here's this party that they're always been about protecting kids, and they're out here talking about this stuff in this rationalizing way. It is mind boggling.

• 19:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't believe I listened to somebody try to get into the semantics of what makes a pedophile a pedophile. And yes, the party that says that life begins at conception, and you want to protect the fetus. Why would we not protect people that are alive, living, breathing, are gonna go on to be traumatized for the rest of their lives?

• 20:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't believe this. Like, one offense, as a grown ass adult, preying on an underage teenager, go to jail, be on the sex offender list. You should never be able to hold a position of power in your life. And if people are like, I saw this on TikTok, and it was like, what if your favorite politician was on the Epstein list? First of all, we shouldn't be having favorite politicians like they're athletes or musicians. But I do have some faves. And if they were on the list, lock them up!

• 20:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I'd switch up my team. What if that I would change my mind?

• 20:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Put, lock them all up. I don't care. And I can't believe that people are still defending Trump at this point. Like, even if deep down, you're like, okay, like, I don't really think he did it, and like, he's still my guy. Just shut the fuck up. Like, if this was the person I love most in the world, if this was Beyonce, or whoever it was.

• 21:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Not, you didn't pick me or your husband. You picked Beyonce.

• 21:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, a celebrity. Family and friends, that's all I'm talking about.

• 21:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I called him your fiance. I'm so sorry.

• 21:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my current fiance, it's my current husband.

• 21:13Rayna Greenberg?

  It's years, I mean.

• 21:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I can't believe these people aren't keeping it to themselves. Like, we are very clearly on the path of him being outed, convicted, whatever it may be. Like, it's so clear, like, even if you don't believe- Even if you're like, I still support him, just shut the fuck up. Like, I can't believe that you are risking your reputation as just a random person for this person that doesn't know you exist. Like, I really think about that. Like, if stuff like this came out about someone I supported so deeply, politician or not, I would just shut the fuck up.

• 21:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know what it benefits these people to promote him at this point. And also, didn't the Republican Party just start a manhunt against anybody who dared to say anything negative about the Kirk's? And get them fired, make sure these people lose their jobs, their livelihoods. But we're not gonna, we're not, we're not gonna start a manhunt against a person who clearly was a part of the Epstein files, good friends with Jeffrey Epstein, probably did all these things. This is the same party.

• 22:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, the hypocrisy, the depravity of it all, truly is like, it's, I can't even talk about it because there are no words. Like, something came out recently, which wasn't new, or it was just more information about Matt Gaetz, and he paid that seventeen-year-old, she was like homeless, she would like, needed money, paid her to have sex with him, like, disgusting, disgusting stuff. And he was Trump's nominee for the Attorney General. Everyone knew Matt Gaetz was a sex trafficker, pedophile, whatever you want to call. Like, I don't always know like the appropriate words, you know?

• 22:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Ask Megyn Kelly.

• 22:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, ask Megyn Kelly. She apparently has that on lock.

• 22:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Barely legal.

• 22:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Barely legal. Yeah, so it's just so disgusting, and I really feel like we're getting close. But these people that can defend this, like, truly have no moral compass, and they will rationalize anything. And I actually thought this was their line. Joke's on me. I actually thought this was it. I actually thought of all the terrible things that these MAGA's stand for and have been able to justify, this was gonna be the line, because they've always stood on this, sex trafficking and children and all of that. And now they're rationalizing this. It's fucking sick.

• 23:17Rayna Greenberg?

  It's the but what about party.

• 23:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 23:19Rayna Greenberg?

  But what about, but maybe he didn't know about it, but maybe he didn't participate. I mean, I hate to, you know, actually, I want to straddle the line, like, telling jokes and how horrified we feel about this, and for the victims and people that have been dragged through the mud, committed suicide, have their lives ruined.

• 23:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, their lives ruined.

• 23:34Rayna Greenberg?

  It's hard to like, not talk about it and get like, really, really upset, but I don't know how anybody can still toe the line and feel like they can stand up for this. Crazy.

• 23:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, and these just random, average people, like, how are you not like, I think I'm gonna... I think I'm not going to show my support for the guy that's all over the Epstein emails.

• 23:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Like Megyn Kelly's not going to lose her job for this?

• 23:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. What even is her job, though? Because she left Fox, but then she brought up, doubled down on blackface on her one, then her new job, what morning show she was hosting, Meghan and whatever the fuck, and then lost that immediately, got some huge payout. Like, what is she even doing now?

• 24:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know, but whatever she's doing, she's advertisers.

• 24:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's rotting from the inside is what she's doing, like a true MAGA. And I don't like to drag women's imperances, but you can feel it. You're rotting from the inside. It's giving Mitch McConnell. She'll look like Mitch McConnell, give her 10 years. You can feel it.

• 24:24Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, I think about it all the time, is you saying you want to go to a Mitch McConnell look-alike contest?

• 24:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Honestly, I'm going to set that up in 2026. You're going to do all your stuff and I'm going to be bored. I don't have a tour. I don't have a wedding to plan. I'm going to set that Mitch McConnell look-alike contest up. Megyn Kelly, you come.

• 24:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Didn't wait, when did the, the look-alike contests have ended in like 2025? We really lost that.

• 24:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, they were really just a shining, a shining light.

• 24:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Trump took that away, too.

• 24:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 24:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 24:51Rayna Greenberg?

  All right, we're just going to thank a couple of our partners and we'll get right back into it.

• 24:54Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 25:33Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 25:44Rayna Greenberg?

  It is. It makes me feel fancy.

• 25:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it really does.

• 25:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Every morning I drink from a glass coffee mug.

• 25:49Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 26:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, my God. They put the bow on the building. It's so beautiful.

• 26:15Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 26:30Rayna Greenberg?

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• 26:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  That is really a flex.

• 26:48Rayna Greenberg?

  This is the world's number one podcast.

• 26:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I get it.

• 26:51Rayna Greenberg?

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• 27:33Rayna Greenberg?

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• 28:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 28:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, it's cozy season fam. And here we are again in our Columbia Amaze Puff Jackets that we are just so obsessed with. This is truly the warmest, softest down jacket I've ever worn and it looks so good.

• 28:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  They do look good and we love everything about them, especially the Columbia touches you'd expect, like Omni Shield technology to keep moisture and stains away, a removable hood, thumb holes.

• 28:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I love a thumb hole.

• 28:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  This chunky zipper that's easy to grab, even if you have your gloves on, and they have tons of colors in three jacket lengths. So obviously we have the long ones on, but I love the short and medium styles as well.

• 28:36Rayna Greenberg?

  These make a great gift for anyone on your list and we all have that friend or sibling or mom who's always like cold and doesn't have her jacket. So get them this.

• 28:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. So you guys can head to Columbia.com to get your hands on an Amaze Puff Jacket for the holidays. They are tough on cold, soft on you.

• 28:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. I mean, I really, I haven't gotten to talk about her in weeks. I'm so glad she's coming up again. Taylor Swift, she has a star studded bridesmaid. It's saying reveal, but it's just sort of like, we're speculating.

• 29:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  This bridesmaid selection is like the NFL draft. Just we're getting bridesmaids one by one. Like round one, Sabrina Carpenter coming in at four foot 11, known for her pop hits and miming blowjobs on stage. Bill Clinton's favorite pop star. Sabrina, welcome to the bridal party. Like what is this crazy?

• 29:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Actually, the first draft pick was Gigi Hadid.

• 29:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, she, Gigi was first?

• 29:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Gigi was first. Listen, I could put her up there on the stand with me. I just, she's too hot. I just, I would be uncomfortable. I would be uncomfortable. You know, you say no one can out, no one can outshine a bride.

• 29:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 29:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Gigi Hadid can outshine me.

• 29:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also just like a shorter girl with a bunch of models like towering over. That's not a look you'd want, but Taylor's tall.

• 29:52Rayna Greenberg?

  But Taylor Swift, she's tall.

• 29:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  But Taylor, Sabrina's gonna look silly up there, poor girl.

• 29:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, they'll put Selena Gomez in between those two.

• 29:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, she'll, she'll split the difference.

• 30:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, she'll be, I think she's pretty small, but I mean, she's not Sabrina Carpenter small, you know, who did not, who is not mentioned in this article, obviously, but lively. She would have been a good like slope in between like Gigi, Blake, Selena, Sabrina.

• 30:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  So there's three so far, they're saying, Gigi, Sabrina and Ashley Hesseltine.

• 30:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did you see this?

• 30:23Rayna Greenberg?

  No, they're also saying Selena Gomez.

• 30:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, and Ashley.

• 30:27Rayna Greenberg?

  But she was in Selena Gomez's wedding, I think, also. Or she gave a speech with Ed Sher- Ed Sheridan?

• 30:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Did I see someone?

• 30:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Is it Ed Sheeran or Sheridan, like the hotel chain? I'm so tired.

• 30:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is that a real? Is that a real question? That was our song last year, Raina.

• 30:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  That was our song.

• 30:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Sheeran.

• 30:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Was Ed Sheeran. Perfect. Was me and you song, and you don't even know. Ed Sheridan?

• 30:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is that a genuine question? Like, he's part of the hotel conglomerate?

• 31:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I was really, I'm tired. I was having fights with somebody in my head last night.

• 31:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my god.

• 31:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I was trying to go to sleep.

• 31:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ashley Taylor Swift.

• 31:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  What am I talking about?

• 31:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you just imagine yourself in this?

• 31:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did I dream it? Her longtime friend, stylist Ashley Avignone, has been speculated.

• 31:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Avignone.

• 31:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Avignone, okay.

• 31:20Rayna Greenberg?

  You know what's so crazy to me is like, okay, so Taylor Swift probably has, all celebrities have friends from like, childhood, high school, college, whatever. I don't know if she went to college or not. But it must be crazy to be her, like, longtime friend and like, go to dinner at her house. And then Selena Gomez and Sabrina Carpenter, like, how could you act normal?

• 31:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. I think you just figure it out over time, because you're with them the whole rise of fame.

• 31:43Rayna Greenberg?

  That's a good point.

• 31:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Like, if you were a new friend that was not a famous person, and you went to Taylor Swift's apartment and all those people were there, I think it would be, I don't know that you'd know how to act, but just someone who's been along.

• 31:56Rayna Greenberg?

  That's, I mean, she has been famous for over 20 years. And like, she was, I mean, there's photos of her and Selena Gomez as like, kids.

• 32:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 32:02Rayna Greenberg?

  So that's a good point. Okay.

• 32:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just can't picture a bridal party for someone this famous. But then again, they are, the stars are just like us, epitome, the most famous people that really feel like they would. Like, I want to see that row of people, and then football players and Jason. You think Kylie's gonna be a bridesmaid? Yes, of course she's gonna be a bridesmaid. I don't know.

• 32:23Rayna Greenberg?

  She doesn't seem to, like, somebody to me that she'd be into it. I can't see her being into that. I think she's kind of like, eh, I'm happy in the front, don't bother me. But like, if there was ever a celebrity that was gonna do this, it was Taylor Swift.

• 32:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  She loves a girl gang.

• 32:38Rayna Greenberg?

  She just, also, she's like, too relatable. That's why people love her. Look how she dresses.

• 32:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's gonna put them all in plaid.

• 32:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 32:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  They should, she should have every bridesmaid in a look from the era store. Like she's like, here, shop the closet.

• 32:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, someone's in the reputation, like snake bodysuit?

• 32:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, all tailors, all bridesmaids are all different tailors. That should be her bachelorette, dressed up as your favorite tailor.

• 32:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, that's so smart.

• 33:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Speaking of plaid, that is one of my favorite outfits she ever worn, the yellow plaid. Like the very Cher, Cher clueless coded.

• 33:07Rayna Greenberg?

  She's been wearing a little plaid. She wore a plaid at the corner store with little Sabrina the other night.

• 33:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  So they're saying that she's taking these women to dinner and proposing to them. Do you believe that? Or is this like media pulled this out of their ass?

• 33:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I think they pulled it out of their ass because she's always like this. She's always going on one on one dinners. I mean, there's hundreds of photos of her and Gigi Hadid alone, her and Blake Lively alone, her and Sabrina Carpenter alone.

• 33:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, is this a fake story? Like Taylor Swift is going to individual dinners with her friends and they're like, those are her bridesmaids? Are we just like total cocks for believing this?

• 33:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I think it's just like a fun lie to tell. But I think that like more than almost any celebrity and another reason why people love her so much is she's just like out in New York with her girlfriends. You see her all the time doing this. Do you think Brittany Mahomes will be a bride?

• 33:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, absolutely not.

• 33:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Somebody's gonna have to check on Brittany Mahomes.

• 33:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  After what the Epstein files are released?

• 33:56Rayna Greenberg?

  After she doesn't get picked as a bridesmaid, she's gonna be like, Patrick?

• 34:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's like, this is just not my year. My favorite politician is in the Epstein files and I'm not even a bridesmaid.

• 34:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just can't get over like Brittany Mahomes being in a same circle as Kylie Kelsey.

• 34:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who's super outspoken politically and just.

• 34:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think they're chilling.

• 34:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're not, but you know, just like, do you think Kylie's like, don't talk to me, Brittany?

• 34:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think Kylie Kelsey has a fake bone in her body. I don't think she has it in her.

• 34:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're so right.

• 34:29Rayna Greenberg?

  She is such like a Pennsylvania girl. She just, like, she is fuck around and find out.

• 34:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  She really is. Even her podcast, which is so intense because it's just her staring at the camera.

• 34:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's intimidating.

• 34:43Rayna Greenberg?

  She's intimidating because she's just not gonna put on air. She reminds me of all the girls who went to high school at Pittsburgh. Like, they're just not gonna like, pretend to like you.

• 34:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right, well, we will keep you updated on the Taylor Swift bridesmaid draft. Imagine being last picked. Like, if it really, right, if it pans out like this, and all these women that have been reported, like, are in the bridal party, and you were like, "I was the last dinner." Like, you're like, "I was the eighth dinner at Corner Store."

• 35:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think it would, I think, I don't think it would matter. It's so star-studded. Um, also, closer to the wedding, I would like to take bets on who is and is not invited. Like, is Blake Lively gonna be invited? Is Andrew Santino gonna be invited?

• 35:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Damn it, Andrew. If he wasn't married, you could start getting there now.

• 35:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I would start working that now, to be his date. Okay, um, so, this week out of Vegas, BravoCon, um, a lot of people there, a lot of drama, a lot of rumors. I actually was kinda surprised also. There's like, a lot of shows that aren't even on anymore, and the cast went. Um, so I just made you guys a list of the hottest goss.

• 35:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, love this.

• 35:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Some of it's substantiated. Listen, I'm not gonna do all of it, but there's rumors from fans that Sheena, from Vanderpump Rules, got into a physical altercation in the green room with somebody from Southern Charm.

• 35:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  We don't know who?

• 35:57Rayna Greenberg?

  People are speculating. People don't think it's Madison, because they just don't think she would do something like that. People think it might be Suzie. Madison, I don't know, Madison's cooled down in the last couple of years. She's just a baby. I just, I think she's like, grown up a little bit. Okay. Real Housewives of Orange County, the OG, Vicky Gumbelson, she announced she's returning full-time as a housewife for season 20. She got her orange back. I mean, she was the number one first OG. So, this is like, a big deal. This will get me to watch the show.

• 36:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 36:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Lindsey Hubbard was caught on camera in the lobby of a hotel, of a casino, screaming at Tom Sandoval and his girlfriend.

• 36:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I don't hate that.

• 36:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you know, he probably deserved it, I'm sure.

• 36:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I would've liked to see that.

• 36:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Somebody was filming it in the lobby. The girlfriend caught this person, and then they cut the video short.

• 36:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  These people are being messy, just in hotel lobbies. We'll get to it.

• 36:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I actually, we'll talk about it in a second. Um, a crazy reconciliation at a BravoCon. Teresa Giudice announced that she reconciled with Melissa and Joe. They've had a many years-long feud. They wouldn't even film together for years. It was so messy and terrible. So, they, I guess, they're not on TV anymore. They're not, they're off the show. So, they, I guess, met up, made up. I mean, you know, they're not gonna fight for TV anymore. I guess they're just like, "Let's just call it."

• 37:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Prior to BravoCon, there was an announcement that Summer House's Kyle and Amanda had separated. They, they're kind of pussyfooting around the split rumors. I feel for them, even if you are split or you're taking a break, it must be very, very hard to go have to do press, be public facing, be on television and do this together. So I feel for them.

• 37:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, they're the only people that's, I mean, I don't watch a lot of shows on Bravo. I obviously do watch Summer House and so I'm invested and, you know, they've always had this tumultuous marriage. They're the epitome of may this love never find me. And I was watching her speak on their relationship and saying that kind of she's been disrespected since day one. They brought her into the show as Kyle's ex, then she's Kyle's side piece, then she's Kyle's girlfriend or whatever. And obviously there, he had his transgressions and they've been married for, they've been together for like 10 years. And she was kind of saying like, we got together when I was 24 and now I'm 34. And a lot of the comments were like, 34, great time to start your life over. You know, like people support her splitting from him. She has her own career now. She has her swimwear line. She's in

• 38:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  South Moon Under. She's really doing it. And they just don't appear to be a healthy, stable, aspirational couple. And so people are like, let's call it. You don't have kids yet. So anyway.

• 38:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel for people that have anchored their career, their finances to their romantic partner. I mean, it's like, what does this say for our future if we split up? And you see all these couples in the Bravo land stay together way longer than the expiration date. Cause like, how do we get out of this? So, um, speaking of which, our final piece of gossip, Shep Rose from Southern Charm, was caught in the lobby of a hotel, just drunk, yelling at the top of his lungs. I don't know who he was talking to, but they were filming, someone was filming them in the lobby, speaking to a couple of girls, going off about Paige and Craig's relationship being a sham. He said they made millions of dollars off the back of Bravo and that she had the audacity to break up with him

• 39:00Rayna Greenberg?

  on her podcast. And how dare she bite the hand that feeds her? I was like, hold me back.

• 39:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 39:08Rayna Greenberg?

  The hand that feeds her. What, Craig?

• 39:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Craig, seriously.

• 39:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Craig. And also, by the way, even if that was true, even if she, Craig didn't know they Breaking up and she broke up with them on the podcast, which was not the truth and neither of them have ever corroborated a story like that.

• 39:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 39:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Even if it was the truth, she's not biting the hand that feeds her. She should stay with somebody she doesn't want to be with.

• 39:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. And like, whatever, like, I don't know. You and I know some things. I always want to tread carefully on someone we know personally. And I just, whoever we're talking about, if it was a relationship that was for show and made them both a bunch of money, also, who cares? They didn't have a kid, no one got hurt. You know, not, not them. I'm not saying that's them, but whoever it is, it's like, okay, great. Literally, who cares?

• 39:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't understand this attitude. I mean, it's just, it's very like, woman hating. It's very like, blame her. It's, it's absolving Craig of his responsibility. And I understand people want to back their friends up, whatever. But this was just so ass backwards to me.

• 40:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 40:09Rayna Greenberg?

  And not the truth and a ridiculous conclusion to come to. Like you said, no one got, even if this was completely a sham and they weren't even ever together, which is not the case, who cares?

• 40:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, and it's also just, he's being messy. I mean, it's, he, seeing him in that video, just screaming in the lobby for anyone to hear. I mean, he, the people who filmed him weren't the people he was talking to. They were sitting farther away. He's yelling. It reminds me that night we saw him at Tao, all drunk, just yelling about everything. I mean, he's just messy.

• 40:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. Listen, I feel bad for anybody that struggles with problems with drugs or alcohol. And he has talked about having problems with alcohol, but I don't know. It's, to me, it's not an excuse to humiliate people publicly, be yelling in a lobby and so.

• 40:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Keep these people's names out of your mouth. Okay. So that is the BravoCon update. We have more TV stuff, but we're just gonna talk about our remaining partners and pick it back up. So I am telling you about Hungry Root. Okay. This is the perfect time of year to use Hungry Root. I think that everyone can relate to being super busy around the holidays and just everything you have going on. And this can really help you be less stressful, plan your meals for the week. It can shop for you and deliver everything you need that fits your health goals, dietary preferences, meal preferences and your budget. So for me personally, the going to the grocery store of it all, like getting ingredients to make meals at home is just not for me. I really do love to cook at home, but, and I'll run to the grocery.

• 41:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Store here and there, but I just don't want to do like how I used to do with my mom when I was a kid and you go to the grocery store for an hour and you get a bunch of stuff to make meals for the week. Like, I'm just not interested in that. So thank God it's not the 90s anymore and we have Hungry Root to do the hard work for you. So you guys can check them out and you're going to go on and you can answer some questions. They'll find out all of your preferences and any sort of dietary restrictions like I mentioned and just what you're into. And they will send you everything like your proteins, your snacks, your vegetables, your dairy, all that. So you can make delicious things like tacos, pastas. I had really good chicken and vegetables recently. I really do like their proteins. And so I'm kind of picky when it comes to that. And it's just really high quality stuff.

• 42:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  So it really is just like having everything you get at the grocery store delivered to your house makes it super easy. These meals are delicious and they really get to know you and what you want. So you never have any surprises. You get exactly what you want. So we just love it. We love that it makes shopping and eating less stressful, especially this time of year. So you guys can take advantage of this exclusive offer for a limited time, get 40% off your first box, plus get a free item in every box for life. Go to hungryroot.com slash GGE and use code GGE. That's hungryroot.com slash GGE, code GGE to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life.

• 42:42Rayna Greenberg?

  So there's so much TV and movies coming out this season. I am like so, so, so excited. And we're going to tell you like a bunch of stuff that we're watching and it's coming up. But one thing that I just watched this weekend, we got a screener for it, which is Eternity, a new movie from A24. It's coming out Thanksgiving. It'll be out November 26th. But it's a movie with Elizabeth Olsen, Miles Teller and Callum Turner.

• 43:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  My Hall Pass.

• 43:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Honestly, both of them are my Hall Pass now.

• 43:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, Miles Teller, you know, I mean, like I, again, I always feel so fancy when we get the screeners and we get to watch this and Chunky was like, I don't want to watch this with you. I'm like, well, you have to, sorry. Like, he's my number one.

• 43:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, because of that, because he's straight. I was gonna say, it's actually like a good movie to watch with your partner.

• 43:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm totally kidding. We both loved it.

• 43:23Rayna Greenberg?

  So it's this movie sort of about purgatory. It's this love triangle and Elizabeth Olsen was married to both of the actors, Callum Turner. She was married to, he dies at war. And then she goes on to marry Miles Teller and be with him for like 70 years. They have children together. And in purgatory, she kind of has to decide like who she's going to spend eternity with. And once you choose, you can't go back and that's all you can do. And it's this love story of like, who do you choose? Like the one that got away, this person like you didn't really get to live out your life and your fantasies with, or this person that. His tried and true, you know what you're gonna get. Maybe it's not that exciting, but it's solid. You build your life with this person. They're gonna be there. You know what to expect. And it's funny. I like laughed. I cried. I really did not know how they were gonna end

• 44:07Rayna Greenberg?

  this movie. And they just, they nailed the ending so hard. And it's just, it's fun. It's light. I mean, if you have kids, you could watch with your kids. Like, it's just, it's great.

• 44:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yeah. So

• 44:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Like a holiday watch.

• 44:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And we just love everything A24 does. Really, they are just, they never miss. It is funny. So I love Divine Joy Randolph, who plays the afterlife coordinator.

• 44:30Rayna Greenberg?

  She's so funny in this.

• 44:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a fun role. What a fun character to play. And again, just like seeing the interactions between all of the stars. It's shot beautifully. And just like a unique concept. I think there's so much of the same out there. And so this is just so fascinating. And there's different, we don't want to give too much away. We want you guys to see it. And so really no spoilers. But there's scenes of her with her first love, Callum Turner's character. And they're like, oh, like so in love. Because it's like newer. It's like a new relationship. And then she takes a trip in eternity with Miles Teller's character. And they're like bickering because they've been together for 70 years. And so you're just like, what's she gonna do? And I think we're, you should check yourself in what

• 45:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  you think she should do, too. And like, how you view these types of relationships, like something new and exciting, as opposed to something that's long-term, stable, but maybe a little more conflict, just because you've been together forever.

• 45:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And I found myself like asking myself constantly, who do I want her to end up with? And like, I, right into the last minute, you don't know who she's gonna end up with, and who she picks, and her reasons for it. Just like warmed my heart, maybe so happy. And there's just great chemistry in the cast. I like these actors a lot. And I love this like re-imagination of the afterlife and what it looks like. Because like, none of us know. And I just, I love this idea that we like hang around in purgatory and pick our eternities. And it's just so well done. Like, you never see something that you're like shocked by the concept.

• 46:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, I love it.

• 46:01Rayna Greenberg?

  And so right up to the end, I just didn't know. And I love stuff like this. Like, who would you choose if you could only pick one type of thing?

• 46:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm hmm. Okay. Well, you guys, check it out. You can see Eternity in theaters starting on November 26th. So next week, this Thanksgiving season, you guys can check it out. And I did just want to say something. So this is like a totally unique movie concept, but it reminds me of a book by Taylor Jenkins Reid called One True Loves, which I loved. And this is not a spoiler. This is how the book opens. But basically, she thinks her husband died. She was married and he gets in a helicopter crash and she thinks he's dead for years. I believe it's been a little while since I read it. And she gets into a new relationship. And then he comes back and he's alive. And I love this book so much. It wasn't your fave.

• 46:51Rayna Greenberg?

  But Taylor Jenkins Reid is my favorite. And Tessa, it was her favorite of the Taylor Jenkins Reid books.

• 46:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. And I loved it so much. And after I read it, I like missed it and I wanted more. And I knew there was a movie and people said, don't watch the movie. People said the movie is hot garbage. And I was like, it can't be that bad. Oh, was it? It was so bad, I lasted 10 minutes. So anyway, if that was your experience and you loved One True Loves.

• 47:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Stay away.

• 47:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Watch Eternity.

• 47:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, for giving book recs, I just finished The Boyfriend by Frida McFadden, who wrote The Housemaid. And I crushed the whole block. It was like 300 pages in a day. I loved it so much. She is just the best mystery and murder writer.

• 47:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I'll check it out. I'm reading, I want to do The Housemaid Secret. I read The Housemaid and I loved it. Okay, we're just going to run through a few TV shows. So I do want to talk about All's Fair, which is.

• 47:44Rayna Greenberg?

  It was hard for me to not, to like, not have you to talk about.

• 47:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I don't, I'm not going to dive too deep on it. This is on Hulu. Obviously, it's Kim Kardashian, Sarah Paulson, and Niecy Nash, and Glenn Close, and they're this all-female divorce law firm.

• 47:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love this show so much.

• 48:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I was real. Okay, so last week it was so widely panned. Every podcast was like, this is the worst thing I've ever seen. Variety said it was like hellish garbage, like you I wouldn't recommend this to my worst enemy. And I turned it on and I was like, I crushed all four episodes.

• 48:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, I was so sad when they were over. So here's, here's the thing. I love the plot and the storylines so much that I am willing to overlook some of the, the writing and the acting. I wish it was better. This should be the best show on TV. I truly believe that. I love the premise so much. I love every single divorce case. There's a cameo by Jessica Simpson.

• 48:38Rayna Greenberg?

  All the divorce cases.

• 48:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just like Jessie Spano. Yes, Jessie Spano. I'm on the edge. I knew when she was gonna.

• 48:43Rayna Greenberg?

  You know it.

• 48:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  The second she said, can I go vape? I told Shashank what was gonna happen. Anyway. Kim is not the best actor, but this also, it's a show where the, these great actors don't really get to shine because I do think the writing is subpar. It's got this campy, corny nature to it. I have to say that. I, I wish that this show, this premise was done by someone else. Even with the same cast, but I just.

• 49:07Rayna Greenberg?

  A little too ridiculous.

• 49:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's, it's just too, a little too corny for me and I, but I'm watching it because I really love it. Like the, the plot and what it's about.

• 49:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I love the plot. I, I was talking to another friend about this. I was talking to Brittany about it and she was like, I hate this show so much. And I was like, you're watching it through the wrong lens.

• 49:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 49:24Rayna Greenberg?

  You're watching it through the lens of this is supposed to be suits and it's not.

• 49:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it's not. Yeah.

• 49:28Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just, the dialogue is so funny when they're yelling like cunt burger or like your mom should have swallowed like.

• 49:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 49:35Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not supposed to be that serious.

• 49:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  I actually think I have no problems with Sarah Paulson's character and her, the writing for Sarah Paulson. It's kind of everyone else. It gets into this really, it's giving like, it's just mediocre comedy. Like it's giving like ChatGPT wrote some of these little jokes. Like it's not great, but it's fine.

• 49:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I have a question for you.

• 49:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 49:55Rayna Greenberg?

  This is a little bit of a spoiler, but it happens, I think halfway through the first episode.

• 49:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 49:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, so Kim Kardashian's husband comes home and says he's gonna leave her.

• 50:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 50:04Rayna Greenberg?

  And she doesn't really emote and she's like, what are you talking about? Sit down. Let's talk about this. You're not really on.

• 50:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's in shock.

• 50:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Is she, is she, is that bad acting? Is she's actually supposed to be upset or is she just in shock? I couldn't tell.

• 50:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't mind that scene so much.

• 50:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't, I don't mind any of the scenes. I love this show, but.

• 50:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  It, I think she was supposed to be in shock. She's not great.

• 50:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't care.

• 50:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's not great.

• 50:28Rayna Greenberg?

  As soon as someone sent me that video of her wearing the thong at the office.

• 50:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 50:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I was like, she was not supposed to be serious.

• 50:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. So anyway, that's my All's Fair review. I came here for the next episode to drop. And the other thing that I'm loving, and then I'll turn it over to Raina, is I love LA.

• 50:43Rayna Greenberg?

  We both love it.

• 50:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  We've talked about, I love LA and I love it. This is Rachel Senet's show, written and directed. I love the cast. Jordan Firstman, who I love, who was also an English teacher. He plays a similar character too. He's just, he is who he is and he's in it. And I just love it. They're saying it's this like Gen Z iconic show. And I think people of all ages love it. And especially in LA, they do a really good job showcasing LA. And the storyline is unique and it's influencer drama. And I'm just, I love it. I laugh out loud and so does Shashank. And that is really saying something.

• 51:13Rayna Greenberg?

  That is really saying something.

• 51:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's funny.

• 51:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I love the cast. I love the show. I love the way it's shot. I have so much fun watching it. We are just blessed with so much television right now. I'll do two things. I'll do them quickly. Selling the OC, I just finished it. I loved the season. They replaced almost the whole cast, except Alex Hall and Tyler are back. Couple of people are back, but it's just lighter to me than Selling Sunset. It's just, Selling Sunset, it's a little heavy. They all hate each other. It's like real deep, dark drama. So Selling the OC, just a little lighter.

• 51:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 51:43Rayna Greenberg?

  So I like that. And then Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, season three. They nailed this season. I absolutely loved it. It is truly the one reality show where being a reality show is part of a plot. So you see producers, you see cameras running around. They constantly reference what you did on camera last season. And so they also filmed them doing the whole press tour for season two during season three. And the show is just a character on the show almost. And they break the fourth wall. These people are so authentic. No one's, I mean, you see all of their trauma, all of their family issues. No one's pretending to have like a good relationship. I mean, they're just, all of these women bleed out for the show.

• 52:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Uh huh.

• 52:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know. It's really vulnerable. You really see what like having grown up in this church has done to a lot of these women and their relationships and these people just really put their lives out there. Taylor Frankie Paul just, I mean, 180 from other seasons. She has gone to therapy, done the work. She's like kind to the other people. She wants to include them. Last season, a little like tea behind the scenes. We were supposed to interview her last season for press for season two and they were very nice, but they canceled the interview, I think, the day or the day or two before. And they said for personal reasons. And I know she canceled Nick Bial and a couple other things. And they were really respectful of us and nice. But they said for personal reasons and they showed on the show this season like what the personal reason was. And I guess Dakota, her partner,

• 53:13Rayna Greenberg?

  had, while they were sort of on a break, slept with or hooked up with one of her mom's friends.

• 53:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 53:20Rayna Greenberg?

  And she was so devastated and distraught by it that, I mean, rightfully so, was like, I can't go on these podcasts.

• 53:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Whoa, okay.

• 53:26Rayna Greenberg?

  So we, I mean, nothing bad to say about her and I totally understand. And I would have canceled also. So that's some, that's some tea from us. And I just, I love this season. I love this show. I love these women, except for Demi. And yeah, that's, it's out now. Check it out.

• 53:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. And there's some stuff upcoming, like Tell Me Lies in January, but we'll talk about that, you know, when it's closer to. It's going to save January. Start 2026 on that note. Hell, yeah.

• 53:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Really give it to them early.

• 53:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, just a few quick headlines. Raina has been chomping at the bit. Raina has been chomping at the bit to talk about pennies being canceled.

• 53:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I saw this. I just thought it was like a delightful headline.

• 54:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Aww.

• 54:03Rayna Greenberg?

  So the Federal Reserve has canceled pennies.

• 54:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 54:06Rayna Greenberg?

  And basically-

• 54:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're like, stop being poor. Who needs pennies? I mean, seriously, I'm surprised we've had them this long.

• 54:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, the US Mint in Philadelphia, they pressed their final pennies.

• 54:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Aww.

• 54:14Rayna Greenberg?

  And basically they just were saying like, nothing costs a penny anymore. You used to be able to get like a snack for a penny, like back in olden times. But everything costs more than four pennies. Everything's at least a nickel. So pennies are over.

• 54:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, penny candy used to be a thing. We didn't even have that. That was like my mom's thing. She's like, when I was your age, we had penny candy.

• 54:34Rayna Greenberg?

  That's just so funny, being a grandparent. You like tell your kids, like, when I was your age, we had these things called pennies.

• 54:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, totally. Oh, my God, they're gonna just be like, um-

• 54:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Like the VCR?

• 54:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're gonna be like collector's items.

• 54:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  If you saw a penny on the ground, would you pick it up? Now you would, because they're gonna be-

• 54:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I used to just throw them out. I just used to like toss them into a fountain or something if I would see them.

• 54:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, a fountain, okay. Cher is gonna appear on SNL for the first time in nearly 40 years.

• 55:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Is this Ariana Grande?

• 55:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so Ariana Grande is gonna host, and Cher is the musical guest. I just think of Mateo being like, "Oh, Sonny."

• 55:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I could watch him do impressions forever. If you guys have an opportunity to see Mateo Lane performing, he is just the funniest comedian. We love him so much. And finally, the trailer that we've all been waiting for, the Devil Wears Prada trailer drop. I don't think it's coming out until, what, May of 2026? But they've fed us early.

• 55:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 55:31Rayna Greenberg?

  And it just looks amazing. I mean, the cast is back, Emily Blunt, Stanley Tucci, obviously Miranda, and fuck. I mean, it just looks so good. Anne Hathaway hasn't aged a day.

• 55:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love this.

• 55:41Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just the fashion looks great. It's just New York City. I just truly cannot wait to see this movie. It's my favorite movie.

• 55:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is Anne Hathaway the most beautiful woman of all time? Yes.

• 55:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Who's asking this?

• 55:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, I think she's-

• 55:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Anyway, let's end it on Clay. Clay Higgins, what the fuck? You guys can find us at Girls Gotta Eat. Get tickets to the New York show. We can't wait to see their Girls Gotta Eat podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I'm Ash Hess, Raina is Rayna Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube and share this episode with a friend, and we will see you Monday.

• 56:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a great weekend, guys.

• 56:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.