663 Hustle for a Purpose with Ryan Holmes

"THERE I SUCH A THING HAS BAD HUSTLE.” The more successful you get, the more you are going to feel you need to hustle. You’ll feel the need to keep moving and it’ll seem like if you stop, all of the pieces will fall apart. Unfortunately, that can end up being your downfall. If you move just to keep moving, you can end up in the wrong place in life. After a while, other areas in your life will start falling apart: especially your health. And without that, what’s the point of all the work? That’s why it’s important to find that balance in your life. Find the time to hustle for yourself and for the ones you love. All of that is just as important for an entrepreneur as their business. On this episode of 5 Minute Friday, I’ve decided to bring you back this clip from Ryan Holmes. If you aren’t familiar with Ryan, he’s the founder and CEO of Hootsuite. He let his life get out of balance and fell into some serious health issues that turned his life upside down. Hear his story and what you can do to find the right hustle, on Episode 663. In This Episode You Will Learn: Why you need a balanced life (1:00) What good hustle is (1:33) Ryan’s darkest years (1:50) Who Entrepreneurs have to rely on (2:56) Plus much, much more Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:00Lewis Howes?

  This is Five Minute Friday.

• 0:11Lewis Howes?

  Welcome everyone to a special edition of the School of Greatness Podcast. I am so pumped to bring on my good friend, Ryan Holmes. Now, for those that don't know who Ryan is, he is the founder and CEO of HootSuite. He started the company in 2008 and has helped grow it into one of the world's most widely used social relationship platforms with 10 million plus users, including 800 of the Fortune 1000 companies. I met Ryan briefly after he launched HootSuite and it's been incredible to see where he's taken his company from with just a couple hundred thousand subscribers to now over 10 million and taking his company from, you know, just a few hundred thousand dollars in revenue to value it at over a billion dollars.

• 1:01Speaker 01

  I think that having a balanced life is so critical. That includes, you know, there's a great post that I saw and I posted out a while ago. I shared it had good hustle and bad hustle. And I think there is such a thing as bad hustle and negative hustle.

• 1:17Lewis Howes?

  It's like no sleep.

• 1:18Speaker 01

  No sleep, yeah. I stayed up and I worked 24 hours straight and it's like, that's bad hustle. Congratulations, you're gonna give yourself a heart attack and die. You're like, don't do that. That's not, that's not healthy hustle. What's good hustle, those are the things I want to focus on. Good hustle, you know, it's working, it's working smarter, not harder. It's like getting exercise and balance in your life. It is attacking things with passion, sure. This piece, I'll share with you, it's awesome and it resonates so well with a lot of people. But, you know, as I said, balance and health hugely important to me. I had a back injury a few years ago. That is another, speaking of formative things in my life and adversity, that was actually, I'm surprised I didn't immediately glom onto that.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  But that was a huge moment of adversity, one of my darkest years. I was using a crutch and a cane. Yeah, it was really bad.

• 2:08Lewis Howes?

  That's why you got into yoga, I think, right?

• 2:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's why I got into yoga, yeah, absolutely. And out of that, like, balance and, you know, not sitting down at your desk all day. You know, I created my stand-up desk company because I wanted to, you know, give that out to people and, you know, put that back to the world to give people a little balance in sitting down and standing up. I exercise probably three, four, sometimes five days a week. I know I try to get a little something in. I've got a gym at the office. I'll go and I'll take off at lunch and I'll go work out a couple of days a week. I'll go for a run. I'm trying to get faster at running right now. Cycling season's on. In the winter, I backcountry ski. You know, I just try to get a little bit of something everywhere and, you know, enjoy myself while I do it. Find sports that I like and get exercise in when I can. And then lots of yoga, I really enjoy that.

• 2:54Speaker 01

  I talked about the good hustle, the bad hustle. I'm huge into hustle. Entrepreneurs are self-propelled. It all comes down to you. You have to own accountability. It is not about the, you know, entrepreneurs need to be insane. You have to be insane in a, in a good and bad way. You are crushing through walls every day. You've got these, all of these things that are stacked against you that are going to tell you that what you are doing, you can't do. And you need to just have your own way of thinking about things. You need to basically build your, your mental game's gotta be as strong as your physical game. You need endurance on both fronts, but you gotta be able to persuasively talk about what

• 3:35Speaker 01

  you're going to do to get people aligned around a vision, to, you know, move the ball ahead and to, and to, and to work through bureaucracy. And bureaucracy is the enemy of entrepreneurship, right? And so, you have to be able to do that. And, and that, that just takes hustle, it takes perseverance, it takes self-discipline and motivation and you gotta find that yourself.