Health is Wealth- with Dr. Ian Smith

How to EAT CLEAN, BURN FAT and a detailed look at INTERMITTENT FASTING and who it is right for?! Dr. Ian Smith is not only the best and youngest looking 50-year old I’ve seen but also one of the most well-known Doctors on television and #1 New York Times bestselling author. In this interview, we have a detailed conversation about “Clean Eating “ And “Intermittent Fasting “ Dr. Smith also debunks what he calls the “myths” about weight loss programs like keto. Then we take a complete turn and move off of the health topic and talk about what it’s like to be apart of a secret society at Harvard. He writes about this world (I knew nothing about) in his book “The Ancient Nine “ It’s fascinating!!! This conversation goes over not just health and wellness but we dive deep into Ian’s life and his practical approach to doing the WORK and how it will never fail you. You have seen Dr. Smith as a host of the tv show “The Doctors” and Good Morning America, The Today Show, The View, Rachael Ray etc etc Ian gives the secret of 70/30 and why the best way to reach your goals include truly enjoying your life along the way. We know training our mind is key, but fueling our body the right way is just as much a necessity to MAXING OUT your life! When you’re striving to be the best version of yourself you need many of these things we discuss in the interview. This interview is incredibly tactical, detailed and full of golden nuggets, you’ll definitely want a pen and paper nearby to take notes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ed Mylett?

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• 1:08Speaker 01

  This is the Ed Mylett Show.

• 1:16Ed Mylett?

  Welcome back to Max Out, everybody. It's Ed Mylett. I'm so excited about today's show because we're going to talk about all kinds of different stuff. But primarily today, we're going to focus on your health, on your wellness, on you getting lean and clean. And the man to my right looks very familiar to you. For those of you that are watching this on the YouTube version, he's a New York Times bestselling author of like a bazillion different books. And if our off-camera conversation is, if our on-camera conversation is anywhere near as good as the off-camera, today's going to be magic. So this is Dr. Ian Smith. Thank you for being here. Thanks for being here. I appreciate you having me. It's going to be, it's going to be awesome. So, we could go everywhere. Anywhere you want. Because you've written about so many different things. His newest book, by the way, is Clean and Lean.

• 1:59Ed Mylett?

  And I got to tell you, I, probably the number one question that I'm getting asked from my audience regularly is what do I know about intermittent fasting? Okay? Which is absolutely nothing. And so

• 2:10Speaker 02

  You know why guys are asking you that?

• 2:11Ed Mylett?

  Why?

• 2:12Speaker 02

  Because of how good you look.

• 2:13Ed Mylett?

  Oh, thank you.

• 2:13Speaker 02

  No, no, no, seriously.

• 2:15Ed Mylett?

  Thank you.

• 2:15Speaker 02

  You're a very fit, well, I looked at your, you're a very fit looking guy. And people know that IF is something that people who are into fitness, that they know that kind of stuff. They're assuming that, you know, and it's not difficult, I'm gonna explain right now, but you look like a guy who would be a master of that kind of concept.

• 2:30Ed Mylett?

  Thank you, and I'm not, and by the way, this is coming, if we're on YouTube, this is a 50-year-old man. Probably the most shocking thing was that, I swear, I'm looking at your stuff, I'm like, he's 50? I look 20 years older than this man.

• 2:41Speaker 02

  Blacks don't crack.

• 2:42Ed Mylett?

  Is that what it is?

• 2:43Speaker 02

  Yes, yeah.

• 2:43Ed Mylett?

  I don't have any of that going for me, unfortunately. So, I'm assuming some of it, though, because, because you're such a fascinating man, from where you grew up, to your education, and we're gonna go there in a little bit. But if I don't get to intermittent fasting first, people are gonna be really frustrated with me. So, tell me a little bit about it. There's really two types also, from what I was reading, right? What can you tell us about it?

• 3:02Speaker 02

  Let's say what intermittent fasting is.

• 3:04Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 3:04Speaker 02

  It's not starvation. People see the word fasting, and they think that it's, they're not gonna eat for a long time. It's intermittent, which means on and off fasting. So, on and off eating. So, basically, you have two windows. You have a feeding window or an eating window. You will eat from this hour to this hour, all of your meals and snacks, and that's the only time you'll eat. Then you have what's called your fasting window. And this is why intermittent fasting works, for a lot of things it works for. It works because your, your body needs energy. All day, while you're sleeping, while you're talking, taking a shower, whatever, having sex, you need energy, okay? Your body typically will get the energy from the food that you eat, the calories.

• 3:43Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 3:44Speaker 02

  And your body stores calories in the form of glycogen, which is a glucose storage form, and fat. Fat is a storage form of energy. So, when your body needs energy, it takes it from those calories you just ate, or you ate a couple hours ago, or it takes it from your stores. If you aren't taking in fresh calories, your body still needs energy. So it says, where am I gonna go to get this energy? Well, the first thing it does, it goes into your liver and your muscles and takes out the glycogen. So it depletes those stores, the inventory, it knocks them all out.

• 4:12Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 4:13Speaker 02

  Now, where do you go? You go to your fat. The body breaks down the fat, converts it to energy, and then you use it to do what you have to do. Now, you don't know this is happening, by the way, this is happening, obviously, microscopically, internally, but this is, this is what fasting does. Fasting drives your body away from food energy into fat energy.

• 4:32Ed Mylett?

  Got it.

• 4:33Speaker 02

  Melts the fat, per se, and then you use it.

• 4:35Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 4:36Speaker 02

  So. Intermittent fasting has to work in the sense of you have to be very rigid about your times. And this is what I mean. If you have a feeding window, you have to stick to it. If you extend your feeding window into your fasting window, you're gonna interrupt that fasting period. It's during that fasting period, during that period where you don't have energy, that your body's driving to your fat stores.

• 4:57Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 4:58Speaker 02

  Now, people say, "Well, what can I have during my fast?" And my way, you can only have about 25 to 50 calories of a beverage. So maybe coffee. If you wanna have some coffee or some-

• 5:09Ed Mylett?

  Black coffee.

• 5:09Speaker 02

  Black coffee or some herbal tea.

• 5:11Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 5:11Speaker 02

  If the calorie count goes above about 50 calories, then you're gonna switch from burning fat to going to the calories you're consuming.

• 5:19Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 5:20Speaker 02

  And we wanna keep the body, the switch, we wanna keep it into the fat direction.

• 5:23Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 5:24Speaker 02

  And that's why you don't, what's called, "Break the fast."

• 5:26Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 5:27Speaker 02

  So, in my programs, and the last one, Clean and Lean, it's about clean eating with intermittent fasting.

• 5:34Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 5:35Speaker 02

  So how would you do it? Let's say, for example, you wanna do a 12-hour fasting window.

• 5:39Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 5:40Speaker 02

  That means you're gonna eat for 12 hours and fast for 12 hours. By the way, 12 hours is a long time to eat. I mean, it's a lot of time, you know. So-

• 5:47Ed Mylett?

  Do you believe it's a long time not to eat or a long time to eat?

• 5:49Speaker 02

  I think it's a long time to eat, 12 hours, right?

• 5:52Ed Mylett?

  Cause you could be sleeping potentially eight of the other 12.

• 5:54Speaker 02

  See, now there you go. You got it already. So, people say, "But 12-hour fasting, guess what? If you slept for about eight hours, that means just two hours before and two hours afterward that you're not eating." It's four hours, really.

• 6:08Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  Now, this is what you would do. This is what I think is the easiest way to do it. If you get up at 8 o'clock in the morning, don't start eating till 10. Do everything you normally do from 8 to 10. At 10 o'clock, start your feeding window.

• 6:20Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  From 10 o'clock in the morning until 10 o'clock at night, could be your eating, feeding window, your eating window.

• 6:28Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  And then at 10 at night, you fast.

• 6:31Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 6:32Speaker 02

  Wrap around. That's a 12-12 window.

• 6:34Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 6:34Speaker 02

  You can burn a lot of fat-

• 6:36Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 6:36Speaker 02

  -in that 12-hour fasting window.

• 6:37Ed Mylett?

  Do you, we're gonna go to Lean in a minute.

• 6:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:40Ed Mylett?

  The reason is, what's unique about your book- One is the detailed explanation of why intermittent fasting works. But most of my friends who do intermittent fasting are like, "It's great because once I'm in that feeding window, I can eat all the crap I want to eat."

• 6:53Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 6:53Ed Mylett?

  That's what most people say, right?

• 6:54Speaker 02

  I know.

• 6:55Ed Mylett?

  And I've had friends who have lost weight doing it that way. But you've sort of combined clean eating with the fasting. This is really important because people do say to me often, "You must eat really clean." And I usually respond, "Yeah." But I'm not really, I'm not really sure that I know what clean, the clean part of that means. So what is, and I want to stay on the fasting, but I'm just curious about this. Like what by definition is clean eating for you?

• 7:23Speaker 02

  Yes. Clean eating means reducing the amount of processed foods or ingredients that you're consuming. It doesn't necessarily mean total elimination. It's difficult to not eat anything processed for a long period of time, right? You can go a couple of days, but it's almost very difficult. But processed ingredients, things that have been processed by manufacturers that started like this, and they add synthetic chemicals, preservatives, all these additives into the food, and you see this on the shelf. This process here, this thing here is called processing the food. And then you see the finished product. Things like, you know, chips or, you know, Pop-Tarts. All these things that do not look like how they came out of the ground

• 8:08Speaker 02

  or off the tree or walking around in the pasture, right? Now, to some degree, you're gonna have to do some processing. But it's the addition of all these synthetic chemicals. And by the way, I wish we had like a package of something to look at. You turn the back of a label of a food, item, package item, and read what's in there. If it has more than five to seven ingredients, it is highly unlikely that it's a clean food.

• 8:34Ed Mylett?

  Okay, so five to seven ingredients, it's probably processed.

• 8:37Speaker 02

  Probably processed. There's some processed in there. That's the way it is. Because, because you can't have like 15, you know, clean ingredients.

• 8:46Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 8:47Speaker 02

  In one food, it just doesn't, it doesn't work that way.

• 8:49Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 8:49Speaker 02

  All the other stuff is, you know, xanthan gum, blah, blah, blah, blah, you, you name it, right? Things you can't pronounce and don't even know what they are.

• 8:54Ed Mylett?

  Why is it bad for you, though? I hear this all the time, like, you don't want stuff with a bunch of preservatives in it. Why, why is that necessarily bad for your body?

• 8:59Speaker 02

  Couple of things. First of all, it can, um, we think that it can have a delir- a, a deleterious effect on your hormones. Okay? So these synthetic ingredients can disrupt your body's hormones. And throw your hormones in a state, you know, of just panic, actually.

• 9:15Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 9:15Speaker 02

  So that's one reason. Um, the other reason is that we believe that some of these synthetic, um, sweeteners, for example, that some of these things actually can mess with your brain chemistries. Right? Artificial sweeteners are a hundred to two hundred times sweeter than regular cane sugar. Sweeter. And so what happens is, when you consume these artificial sweeteners, you have this dopamine response in your brain, which is pleasure. Right? It's, it's the, it's the pleasure reward pathway. So you eat all this sugar, your brain releases dopamine, the dopamine travels in your brain, it goes to your pleasure center and says, "Ooh, I feel good." So you know what I'm gonna do?

• 9:55Ed Mylett?

  Again.

• 9:55Speaker 02

  I'm gonna get more.

• 9:56Ed Mylett?

  Again.

• 9:56Speaker 02

  Right? Cause it's like Pavlov's dog, right? So we keep going, it's a, it's a conditioned response, we keep going to it. So what happens is this, when you eat these synthetic sugars, particularly where we're on right now, when you eat these sugars, you crave more sugar.

• 10:08Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 10:09Speaker 02

  And more and more and more, and eventually you know what you're gonna do? You're gonna get regular cane sugar.

• 10:13Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  And you're gonna consume it like crazy.

• 10:14Ed Mylett?

  Do these, uh, thank you for this, by the way, for my own edification, but... So do these processed sugars have the same inflammatory effects in your body that you read about traditional sugars having?

• 10:26Speaker 02

  Great question.

• 10:27Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 10:27Speaker 02

  Um, the answer is, they're not a hundred percent sure.

• 10:30Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 10:31Speaker 02

  So, even though artificial sugars have been around for a very long time, at least since I was a kid, my, my mother used to eat, like, Sweet'N Low and all that stuff, right?

• 10:39Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 10:39Speaker 02

  For, and so, so way before then... They have not done a lot of real good studies.

• 10:44Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 10:45Speaker 02

  That really looks at the physiological impact. When I say physiological, I mean how the body operates internally. They haven't done really, really great, great studies. Some of it's political, by the way, because some people don't want you to do those studies, right?

• 10:58Ed Mylett?

  Right, right, right.

• 10:59Speaker 02

  It's a big business, right?

• 11:00Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  But some of it is just that researchers in general, uh, kinda have not, they, they haven't gone hard into it.

• 11:08Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 11:08Speaker 02

  To really, to really look at it. Now more studies are coming out saying, ah, we have lab rat studies. You know, so we have rat studies that show higher rates of, of cancer in some cases and things like that. But, you know, then again, the argument against that is that what happens in the lab doesn't always transfer to human beings. We're much more complicated than a lab animal. So we kinda extrapolate what could be happening in us.

• 11:31Ed Mylett?

  But most people would say, why take the risk, right? I mean, is it, is it, do you think to some extent that, um, this is economically driven? Meaning that I've had people tell me, I want you to correct it if it's not true. It's sort of more expensive to eat cleaner. Is that a fallacy?

• 11:48Speaker 02

  It's not a fallacy, but it's, it's not as expensive as people think it is.

• 11:51Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Right? So, uh, let me go back to the, to the sugar, for example. So I believe that the economics help drive why manufacturers put all this junk into food. Because it, the synthetic preservatives make the food more shelf-stable.

• 12:11Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  They can stay on the shelf longer before they spoil. And therefore, a retailer can buy it and you can be on a Target shelf for six weeks, eight weeks and be okay.

• 12:21Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  To give, you know, uh, customers time to buy it and the, the retailer doesn't lose money. So a big part of it is, is financial. The other part of it is that it's cheaper.

• 12:30Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 12:31Speaker 02

  I mean, junk is cheaper.

• 12:32Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 12:33Speaker 02

  It's junk, you know, like, excuse the expression, but a junky car.

• 12:37Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 12:37Speaker 02

  Is not gonna cost what it costs to buy a brand new Mercedes.

• 12:39Ed Mylett?

  Correct, yeah.

• 12:40Speaker 02

  So manufacturers are putting junk into foods because it's cheaper to put junk into foods rather than keep the food whole. And to farm it in a whole way, organic way, doesn't have to be organic, it's a whole other conversation, but to farm it in a way where you're not putting all these pesticides and antibiotics and hormones in it, it's more difficult.

• 12:57Ed Mylett?

  I never heard anybody talk about the hormone effect. That's really, really compelling and I wonder, I look at it, I'm not kidding, I do look at a dude like you and I'm like, I wonder if this guy's for his age, got more growth hormone and testosterone still in his body, because he's eating cleaner, I don't know, I wonder.

• 13:12Speaker 02

  Well, like you said, people ask you if you eat clean, I don't eat perfectly. In all of my books, the first thing I tell people is, I'm never gonna ask you to eat perfectly.

• 13:21Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 13:22Speaker 02

  Like, let's be realistic, I'm not perfect, I mean, I had fat burger yesterday.

• 13:26Ed Mylett?

  You did.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  I love fat burger, like, it's one of my joints.

• 13:29Ed Mylett?

  Me too.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  And so, I'll have a burger, now do I have fat burger, I have it maybe once every couple of months or whatever,

• 13:34Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 13:34Speaker 02

  but I'm gonna have it, I'm gonna have, when I go to New York, I'm gonna have a slice of pizza.

• 13:38Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  It's a New York slice!

• 13:39Ed Mylett?

  That's so good to hear, by the way, like, I seriously, I think people need to hear that, because I think, I have this thing that I teach in my stuff too, that if whatever you're going to begin to do is not something you can maintain, you know, someone hasn't worked out in two years, like, I'm gonna train for two and a half hours, I'm like, no, go for 30 minutes, get a workout in, am I right?

• 13:55Speaker 02

  You are so right.

• 13:56Ed Mylett?

  So it's so important that you're hearing what Dr. Smith is saying, that it's gotta be something you can maintain, you can have a piece of pizza, right, you can have a piece of cake, it's okay, I do too, I want everybody to know that.

• 14:07Speaker 02

  Yes, on my Instagram page, go to my Instagram page, @DrIanSmith, spell the doctor out, I-A-N Smith, you'll see, I'll post pizza, I'll post, like, for example, I'll post at the Chicago Bulls game, I'll have like a rainbow cake, now, how often do I have it? The cake is this big.

• 14:24Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 14:25Speaker 02

  But I'm gonna eat maybe...

• 14:26Ed Mylett?

  That's what I do.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, like three or four, and I'm good!

• 14:28Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, that's exactly what I do.

• 14:29Speaker 02

  I don't deprive myself, I'm good, and I'll post it, let people know, listen, how can you live life?

• 14:34Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  People say, I don't eat carbs, what are you talking about?

• 14:37Ed Mylett?

  Of course you do.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Of course you do, and by the way, the number one fuel source for your brain is glucose, it's carbs!

• 14:44Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  You need carbs more than any macronutrient. Fat, protein, carb, you need carbs the most, because it's fuel source for the body. Now, the issue is the right carbs, right? So when people come to me and say, oh, I'm following a no carb diet, I look at them like... Why? Because you read it in People magazine?

• 15:00Ed Mylett?

  So your energy level is zip all the time.

• 15:02Speaker 02

  Absolutely. What do marathon runners do the night before a marathon?

• 15:06Ed Mylett?

  Carb up.

• 15:06Speaker 02

  They carb up.

• 15:07Ed Mylett?

  Exactly.

• 15:07Speaker 02

  You need carbs. So, so my whole point is that I think that people have to have a better understanding, you know, when they're trying to do better, and people want to do better by the way.

• 15:15Ed Mylett?

  Sure.

• 15:15Speaker 02

  One thing I was in a meeting yesterday, I said to the guy, I don't think people who make decisions at the top of the food chain understand that the guys at the bottom, they really want to do better.

• 15:25Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  Some of them don't know how to do better. They may lack a little willpower, but, but who says, who says, who walks around and says, "I want to be 400 pounds overweight and I, you know, I can't tie my shoes, I can't walk up steps without getting winded"? Nobody.

• 15:38Ed Mylett?

  Nobody.

• 15:38Speaker 02

  No one wants to live like that.

• 15:39Ed Mylett?

  I totally agree with you. Now, you said something on fat, so I got to ask you just, and then your opinion on it. I got a couple more questions on it. Um, I'm curious, because I get asked this one a lot too, like, real opinion on someone who eats the keto type plan. Let's just hear it. I want to know your, your opinion on it.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  No way.

• 15:56Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 15:56Speaker 02

  Keto is, first of all, not a new program. It's Atkins repackaged.

• 16:01Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  This program's been around for a long time. The, the high protein, uh, high fat diet is as old as my mother.

• 16:08Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 16:08Speaker 02

  Right? Um, sorry, mom. Um, but it's old, okay? And the thing is this, this is why keto works. Okay, I want people to understand this. Keto works, almost similar to intermittent fasting. Keto works because instead of consuming carbs, which your body prefers, I just said, it's the number one fuel source for your body. Instead of consuming carbs, you consume fats. Fats are a form of energy. And so you eat high protein, high fat foods, you turn those fats that you eat and the fat already in your body, you turn it into something called a ketone body. That process is called ketosis. Taking fat to ketone is called ketosis.

• 16:53Speaker 02

  Ketone then becomes your energy source. Okay? So, does keto, uh, keto work? Absolutely, it works. Is it sustainable? Absolutely not.

• 17:02Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  Because in keto, you are making your body go into an artificial biochemical state. And the minute you eat off the keto plan, you switch from ketosis to regular and then all that weight comes back.

• 17:15Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  So yeah.

• 17:16Ed Mylett?

  This is the cycle I see with most of these sort of eating plans or workout plans, if it's everyone, if it's anything, your business plan, your phone call plan, your work habit, when you wake up, if it's not sustainable, it's not something you should be doing. That's for me, anything that I'm approached with that's new that I'm gonna try to do and implement in my life has to be something that would be a lifestyle for me going forward, not some little window. It's not that I don't do little blitzes or fixes or different trainings.

• 17:42Speaker 02

  Everyone does, yes.

• 17:43Ed Mylett?

  But when it comes to my eating, this is something I know I'm going to be required to do the rest of my life. I want it to be something I can plan on doing forever.

• 17:50Speaker 02

  It's the 70/30 rule. If 70% of the time, you can make good decisions, right? This is life in general. If 70%, and 30% of the time, ah! You know, it may not be the best decision. I mean, you don't wanna be suicidal about a decision, right? But if 70% of the time, you can make a decision that makes sense, that's well thought out, that's thorough. You're sitting down, you're at a restaurant. You sit there and you say, well, it's not the greatest restaurants, but they do have a salad, but I want some fries. Okay, have a salad and some fries. But don't do like fries and then, you know, a big huge steak and then a big dessert that's 600, 700 calories.

• 18:26Ed Mylett?

  You know, you would think that people know what you're saying, but I'm gonna tell you, I do exactly that. Like, sometimes I'll go eat clean, but I'll do that. I'm like, alright, I'm gonna eat these fries, but I'm gonna have a salad with it. Like, I actually do. I kinda make a negotiation with myself.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's it.

• 18:40Ed Mylett?

  Do you do that?

• 18:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, 100%.

• 18:41Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, I do the same exact thing.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, or if I know, for example, that, like, I like ribeyes. I love ribeyes. And in fact, when I go do ribeyes, I get the most marble eyes, which is fatty. I get the most marble eyes piece of meat. And, um, because that's the best ribeye, right?

• 18:55Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 18:56Speaker 02

  But...

• 18:56Ed Mylett?

  I eat greens with it. That's what I do.

• 18:58Speaker 02

  Right, but I'll make sure I have good vegetables.

• 19:00Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  Steamed vegetables with it, right?

• 19:02Ed Mylett?

  That's exactly what I do.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  You know, I don't do a ribeye and fries.

• 19:04Ed Mylett?

  That's crazy. Me too. People think I'm nuts. They're like, so you're eating this whole ribeye, but you won't get some mashed potatoes? I'm like, nope, I'm eating greens with it. I do the same thing. So prove this works, by the way. Do you still run, your Facebook group's still very prominent, right?

• 19:14Speaker 02

  Oh, yes, yes.

• 19:15Ed Mylett?

  So everyone, I just want you to hear this because... I like data, y'all know I'm a little bit nuts about this stuff, but like this isn't really up for debate. This isn't theory any longer, this is statistically, mathematically been proven. So you have a Facebook group, I want them to be able to get in it. And then tell them what's sort of like the average weight loss or transformation that's happening that you see in the first little window of time.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, so, and then just, let me give you some context. People say, what is good weight loss? Let's, let's discuss that first, okay, if we can. Good weight loss, if you could lose on average one to two pounds a week. That is, any real nutritionist would be like, oh my goodness, that is wonderful. The problem is, people are so habituated into thinking that you need to lose all this weight in a month. Geez, it took you three years to put on 30 pounds, you want to lose it in 30 days. That's unrealistic. And it's dangerous, by the way, for most people, because the way they do it, not that losing weight so fast is necessarily dangerous, but it's how you do it. Lemonade diets, cayenne pepper, apple cider vinegar, you know, they're, no.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  So, one to three pounds, one to two pounds a day, a, a, a week is a great weight loss. Now, in my program, I'll admit, it's rapid weight loss. So people typically lose in 30 days between 12 and 15 pounds.

• 20:32Ed Mylett?

  And by the way, I knew that, and these aren't people who are always 300 pounds. You're, we saw about 150 pound woman, 30 days, lost like 15 pounds, right?

• 20:41Speaker 02

  A hundred percent.

• 20:41Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 20:42Speaker 02

  And let me tell you, but let me tell you why they're doing it. They're doing it because they are making lifestyle changes. And they're not starving themselves, they're just eating food that don't have all those processed ingredients. They're not drinking as much soda.

• 20:55Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  I mean, it's not, you know, it's not neuroscience, you know, soda is horri- If there's one thing I could eliminate from diets, is soda.

• 21:03Ed Mylett?

  Even diet soda?

• 21:04Speaker 02

  Diet soda, it's all junk.

• 21:05Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 21:06Speaker 02

  You're stuffing all this junk into your, the best machine ever built is our body. And you're just killing it, right? And so people lose all that weight, and I also get them moving. And like you said, I don't say go work out for two hours. Take 30 minutes, and guess what, break 30 minutes up. Do 15 in the morning, 15 at night. Because the minutes count, not how much you're in the gym, it counts that you're doing that, the, the exercise, the exertion of energy. People say, I worked out for an hour today, oh, you know. You spent 25 minutes on the phone or talking to other people in the gym.

• 21:36Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, right, exactly. I see this all the time.

• 21:38Speaker 02

  You see it all the time, right?

• 21:39Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 21:39Speaker 02

  I see guys in between sets. I'm like, and you know, I'm like, I'm very focused in the gym. Because first of all, I like to be efficient.

• 21:45Ed Mylett?

  Me too.

• 21:45Speaker 02

  I like to do my work and get out. I don't need it for social hour, right? I'm not picking up girls or anything like that. Like, I'm in the gym to work out. So you'll see guys in between sets. They're like taking 10 minutes between sets.

• 21:56Ed Mylett?

  I know, I know.

• 21:57Speaker 02

  What are these guys doing?

• 21:58Ed Mylett?

  I don't understand that. And by the way, that guy looks exactly the same the next year when I see him at the gym. There's been no change in their body at all. Like, dude, you come in here, you might as well hit it hard and get out of here. The idea is to change your body. You know what I'm saying?

• 22:09Speaker 02

  You are so right.

• 22:09Ed Mylett?

  It's the same thing.

• 22:10Speaker 02

  I was training a guy once, and I said to the guy, um, so this guy that I had been working, this older guy, we worked about like six months. And I was, you know, working with the gym. And there's another guy who we saw every single day that we went. So he probably, and we didn't go every day, so he probably was there.

• 22:22Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 22:23Speaker 02

  And I said to the guy I was training, I said, "Look at this guy. He's doing it all wrong." And even my client said, "Wow, he looks the same. He's looked for a year." Yeah, he doesn't change.

• 22:34Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, and by the way, you become unconscious, guys, in what you're doing. Like, even as you're listening to this, maybe your workout needs some evolution and some mix up. Maybe the way you're eating does need to change. Okay, two more questions on this, then I gotta ask you stuff that I'm like dying to ask you. So, um, is there an exception to this? Meaning, a lot of people that follow me are, uh, some of them are bodybuilders.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 22:53Ed Mylett?

  Some of them are, though, really intense about their training. Really intense about their, um, their lifting, right? And so I'm wondering if you look excited to answer this question.

• 23:04Speaker 02

  Well, because you're asking all the questions that are really good questions. And I get these questions, like, you're asking the right questions, but go ahead. Let you finish the question.

• 23:10Ed Mylett?

  Okay, so is there an exception for someone who's a heavy trainer physically? Let's just say with weights?

• 23:16Speaker 02

  100% there is.

• 23:17Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  And this is why, by the way.

• 23:19Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 23:19Speaker 02

  If you are a person who lifts a lot of free weights, resistance training, and you're trying to build muscle. hypertrophy, make your muscle larger versus lean muscle, okay? If you're trying to build bulk muscle, then you need a lot of protein and you need a lot of calories. Okay. You need to, because what people don't realize is this, and this is why I tell women to lift weights also, by the way. Not to build big muscles, but muscles are the most metabolically active tissue in the body. By that, I mean this, muscles need to be fed, right? Yes. And they're like a growing child, the bigger your kid gets, the more they eat, the more they eat. That's what muscle is, the bigger your muscle is, the more you need to feed it. That means all the calories you're eating goes into your muscle. Okay.

• 24:05Speaker 02

  Why do men lose weight faster than women? Not because men work harder, not because they're better, they have more muscle mass. Got it. And so if you have a man and a woman who are both 175 pounds and they are eating the same thing. The man is going to lose weight faster or not gain as much weight because a lot of his calories are going to feed his muscle. Okay. And the woman mostly has adipose tissue or fat. Now, that being said, so if you are a bodybuilder, a marathon runner, a vigorous exerciser, you need more calories. You need more protein. So in my programs, I will say, people hit me on Instagram or Facebook and say, Dr. Ian, I do this, what should I do? I say, listen, you gotta, you gotta eat more, you gotta increase about at least 30%. Wonderful. Because your demands are greater.

• 24:49Speaker 02

  Now, here's the other part of it, when you're doing intermittent fasting, it cuts you, right? It can cut you very well. So you gotta be careful, for those who are not bodybuilders, I say, do your workout during your fasting time. Because, let's think about this, right? If fasting works because your body does not have calorie, energy, calorie energy, and your body needs energy. We're gonna go into the fat stores even harder. Because we have nothing, no risk to energy. So, working out during your fasting window is a great way to really cut.

• 25:24Ed Mylett?

  Awesome advice.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  Right?

• 25:25Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 25:26Speaker 02

  But, if you are doing a two-hour workout, you're doing a huge HIIT workout, don't do it then because you don't have enough energy on board.

• 25:33Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  To get through the workout.

• 25:34Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  You could hurt yourself.

• 25:35Ed Mylett?

  This is so good. And by the way, I'm a big fasted cardio person too, but I am gonna go through this phase of adjusting. I can very easily not eat the last two hours before I go to bed at night. That's not a challenge.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  It's not a challenge.

• 25:46Ed Mylett?

  It's not a challenge to wait a couple hours when I wake up.

• 25:48Speaker 02

  And that's why I say, start that way.

• 25:50Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 25:50Speaker 02

  People who are a little nervous, this is what you do. And my program's on Instagram, so if you follow me on Instagram, I do all these challenges, like a seven-day soup challenge, three-day weekend challenge. So, if you follow me, I'll say to you, do not eat your last meal within two hours of going to sleep.

• 26:04Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  Two hours.

• 26:05Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 26:05Speaker 02

  Because, from the time, let's say you go to sleep at 10. After 8 o'clock, we're not gonna eat. Because, all those calories you just put in for dinner, we need to give our body enough time to burn as many of them off before we lay down.

• 26:17Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 26:18Speaker 02

  Because when you lay down, your metabolic rate drops to almost nothing.

• 26:22Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 26:22Speaker 02

  Relatively speaking. And so, all those calories have to go somewhere.

• 26:25Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Where do excess calories go that you don't burn?

• 26:28Ed Mylett?

  Fat.

• 26:28Speaker 02

  They become fat.

• 26:29Ed Mylett?

  Right, right.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  So, people are messing themselves up.

• 26:32Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  They do pretty well during the day.

• 26:34Ed Mylett?

  Yep. They blow it the last two hours.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  Or they eat a huge meal.

• 26:38Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  You know, like you eat like a 1,500 calorie dinner.

• 26:41Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 26:42Speaker 02

  And then you're asleep an hour and a half. You got 1,500 calories.

• 26:45Ed Mylett?

  Plus, you're also digesting that food, right?

• 26:47Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 26:47Ed Mylett?

  While you're sleeping.

• 26:48Speaker 02

  So, your body's, what am I gonna do with this stuff?

• 26:50Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  Because Newton said, "Energy cannot be created nor destroyed." It's gotta go somewhere. So, your body says, "Okay, we got it." We turn it to fat.

• 26:57Ed Mylett?

  This is so good. All right, real quick, last thing.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 26:59Ed Mylett?

  On that. Water, which you're about to drink.

• 27:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 27:02Ed Mylett?

  Perfect, like, I don't know how you knew I was gonna do that. How important is drinking water in one's nutrition? I find, like, a lot of people say, "Hey, I lost seven pounds the first week on whatever." I'm like, "You dehydrated yourself." You lost five pounds of, or six pounds of water, right? And one pound of fat. So, how important? I just wanna make sure that people know they need to be hydrated and how you feel about that.

• 27:23Speaker 02

  So, uh, so here's a quick story. When I was in med school, I asked our kidney professor, physiology. So, he, this guy was an expert. He wrote the book, Heinz Walton. Uh, he wrote the book on how the kidney works. And I said to him, "Dr. Walton, how many glasses of water are you really supposed to drink?" He says, "Smith, I'm gonna tell you something." He said, "Um, the number eight glasses was made up."

• 27:47Speaker 02

  I was like, what? She's like, yes, that number was made up. We didn't know that was really eight. Someone just said, you should drink eight glasses of water a day.

• 27:55Ed Mylett?

  Really, okay.

• 27:56Speaker 02

  Then they backed into the number. And what they realize is, the amount of water you should drink is the amount to replace your water loss during the day.

• 28:04Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 28:05Speaker 02

  The average person probably loses, average, not someone who's training a lot, the average person probably loses between six to eight glasses worth, cups worth, eight ounces per cup of water a day. So you gotta replace that. Your body is 70% water, at least. And what people don't realize is, just because you're not sweating, doesn't mean you're not losing water.

• 28:25Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  You lose water when you're breathing. It comes through your skin, you don't realize it, you obviously eliminate it, you know, you urinate it. So you're losing water all day long, by the way.

• 28:33Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  And so people are dehydrated and don't realize it. So I say the average person probably needs between six and eight, six and nine cups of water a day. The more active you are, the more water you need. And by the way, here's a trick to lose weight with water. On all my programs, I say, before eating a meal, you have to drink eight ounces of water before you take the first bite.

• 28:56Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  Why is that?

• 28:57Ed Mylett?

  More food.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 28:59Ed Mylett?

  That's brilliant.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  Your stomach works on expansion. So your stomach has, your stomach is like this, collapsed when there's nothing in it. And inside the wall of your stomach are stretch receptors. And those receptors send a signal to your brain when they get really stretched. So, if you start, like my fists are closed here, if you start like this and you consume some water, you're like this. You have less room now for the stomach to expand with food because you've taken some of it with water.

• 29:27Ed Mylett?

  Very good.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  So a quick tip is, before every meal, right? Drink one cup of water.

• 29:32Ed Mylett?

  I love this. All right, by the way, I've done a lot of shows. I guarantee you, the most detailed, most note-taking, most tactical stuff we've covered so far. I guarantee that. So now we get to indulge me, because I'm just fascinated by this.

• 29:45Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 29:45Ed Mylett?

  I'm not as educated a man as you are.

• 29:47Speaker 02

  Stop.

• 29:47Ed Mylett?

  So there's Harvard and Dartmouth on this man's resume. And he has a book, so he's written so many bestsellers, but I think the Ancient Nine is the most unique one. So guys, I just feel like this is such a peek into a world that I never got access to, that probably the vast majority of people have not. But can you tell us about, it's a novel, by the way?

• 30:08Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 30:09Ed Mylett?

  And I love this. So tell us a little bit about the Ancient Nine. This is almost like learning about, I guess I would call it almost like a secret society of, to some extent.

• 30:17Speaker 02

  It is.

• 30:17Ed Mylett?

  That's, and you accounted at Harvard. So tell us about the Ancient Nine, the book, and then what all that world is about, if you could. This is gonna be, guys, this is something you've never heard before, most of you.

• 30:28Speaker 02

  Real fast, so I went to Harvard undergrad. I'm a kid from the other side of the tracks. I didn't grow up with wealth. We didn't have any money. I wasn't a legacy, which means I didn't have people who had gone to Harvard. You know, I came from a working-class family. So, but I was a very smart kid, and I worked very hard. You know, kids who are, who keep their head on straight, who are poor, they're hungry.

• 30:48Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 30:48Speaker 02

  You know, I was a poor kid. I was hungry to do better. And I knew as a kid, the best way to get ahead was to do well in school. That was my out, you know?

• 30:56Ed Mylett?

  Your parents emphasized that?

• 30:57Speaker 02

  Oh, absolutely. So I always say, we were not rich in materials, we were rich in love and education. Cause my mother, I didn't have a dad, just my mother. My mother would say, you gotta do well in school, and I was a great sportsman too. So I did both, played sports and I did well in school, and I was very competitive. Anyway, I get into Harvard, my brother and I have a twin brother, we get into Harvard, and...

• 31:15Ed Mylett?

  Both of you got into Harvard?

• 31:16Speaker 02

  Both of us got in.

• 31:16Ed Mylett?

  From a single mother?

• 31:17Speaker 02

  Single mother.

• 31:18Ed Mylett?

  Awesome.

• 31:19Speaker 02

  Working-class mom, yeah. I don't know if you can do that these days, it's so hard, but anyway.

• 31:22Ed Mylett?

  Spectacular. Well, I guess you did it.

• 31:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I credit her. But, so we get into Harvard. We go to the school that is just, you know, the who's who.

• 31:32Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  The family names, Kennedys, you know, kings and queens and whatever. So we go to the school, and what happened was, I didn't know anything about Harvard. Like, I didn't know like the history of Harvard. Geez, I was a basketball player, you know, I was from a small town in Connecticut. Get to Harvard, and one night, I, one morning I wake up, and someone has slipped under my door, an envelope with my name on it and the room number on it. There's no stamp, there's no return address. So I'm like, I at first thought it was, Harvard, a lot of like, these organizations, like, the a cappella singers and all these different groups. This was one of these like, you know, nerdy kind of groups that, you know, so I didn't pay attention to it. I didn't even open it.

• 32:14Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  So I put it on my, like, on my table, whatever, in the, in the common room, went about my business. And then one day after dinner... I came home, I was about to throw away, I just opened it up. And it said, "The president and members of the Delphic Club cordially invite you to a cocktail party," had the address, "and call with regrets," and blah, blah, blah. So I was like, "What is a cocktail party?" I had no idea what a cocktail party was. Okay. My people didn't go to cocktail parties. So I was like, "Oh, okay, this must be one of these organizations that, these really snooty, highfalutin organizations." One thing I noticed about, like, rich kids, I'm not teasing, if you're rich, I'm not teasing you, but rich kids, kind of like, they imitate their parents. Like, they're, they're more advanced, like, they act like, you know, older. True. Right? I mean, they do everything faster than the average kid.

• 33:00Speaker 02

  So, I know the cocktail party was, so, I put the, put the envelope to the side of the invite. I'm in basketball practice one night, we're in the locker room, and we're taking a shower, the guys are talking, and, and they're like, talking about these clubs. And they're saying, the upperclassmen, they're saying, I was only a sophomore, but the juniors and seniors, "Yeah, it's punch season." So I'm listening to these guys, like, "Yeah, the clubs are starting to invite people to potentially join their clubs." You know nothing about this. Nothing. Wow. Zero. Okay. And so, I'm like, "Ooh, that sounds interesting." And then someone mentioned the name, they said "Delphic," and I knew that was the name in that invite I had in my room. So I raced home on my bike, and I opened this thing up, and I had been invited to this

• 33:42Speaker 02

  secret society, to, it, it's, it's called punching, that's the name they use, and, and sororities and fraternities, they say, "Rushing." Yep. Or, you know, so they rush the fraternity, or rush the sorority, I guess. They call it punching. And so, I got invited to this cocktail party, so I said, "I'm gonna go to this thing." I was a very curious guy. Yep. And so I went to this party, and I gotta tell you something, it was like, I wrote in the book, I mean, the book is 80% true, it's based on me as this poor kid who gets invited mysteriously to- It's awesome. To join this thing. And I go to this cocktail party, it's a huge mansion in Cambridge, and, you know, these guys are in these starch blazers, and gold buttons, and, you know, Rolex watches, and smoking cigars, I've never seen, this stuff is like a movie to me, right? Yes, exactly, it's to me.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, so anyway, to, to end it, I end up, you, you gotta go round to round to round. So there are events, first there's a cocktail party, then there's a dinner, and after each round, they cut the list. So they start about 125 guys, and then the members will cut the list to 75, cut it to 50, cut it to blah, until you get to about- Twenty, fifteen to twenty guys who they at the end invite to actually join the secret society. And dude, they asked me to join and to this day, I cannot tell you why they would ask a poor kid who had no connections, didn't go to prep school and they asked me to join. And it was just a great experience. And so I got inside, I don't want to ruin the

• 35:03Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  But with people to read it or listen to it, the audio is great. By the way, the guy who reads it is great. But I want people to to read, I become your eyes to go into this very clandestine, very upper crust world of guys who are billionaires and these kids who are flying around. It's more common now, but back in the day, kid, these people had private planes. I ain't know what a private plane was back in the day. I was such a regular.

• 35:27Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  You know, sometimes ignorance really is bliss. Luckily, I didn't know all this stuff.

• 35:31Ed Mylett?

  I I just think that, by the way, I want everyone to read the book. It's it is literally like a movie, except it's real.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  It got optioned, by the way, to be a movie.

• 35:39Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, it should be.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  It got optioned to be a movie. So knock on wood.

• 35:41Ed Mylett?

  It should be. And guys, you could get the movie now. I'm not I'm not promoting the book. I'm promoting the book and the audio book. Like you all should hear this. And even like for me, because I wasn't in that world. It's almost like there kind of is an Illuminati of sorts, right?

• 35:57Speaker 02

  You know, I learned, this is what I learned about about this world, that that the network. Let me back up for a second. The have and have nots. I grew up a have not.

• 36:10Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 36:10Speaker 02

  Okay. And I still have the sentimentality of a have not. I've been very successful. God has blessed me. I'm very appreciative for that, but I'm also very humbled that I'm just a I'm small compared to the universe. What I learned is that the have nots have a network and a way of operating that is so removed from the regular life and thinking of us regular have nots, the haves, have this world, that we don't even know what they're really doing.

• 36:35Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 36:35Speaker 02

  There's so many deals behind these closed doors. There's so many people picking up the phone and calling, you know. This guy's dad is a CEO of Morgan Stanley. And his son wants an internship. He doesn't go the regular route.

• 36:48Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 36:49Speaker 02

  He doesn't file an application, go to interviews. No. The dad knows the CEO. They went to school together. They were in the club together.

• 36:54Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  It's just, you know, I'm not whining about it because there are a lot of different networks in the world, but you but you need to be aware that everything is not fair. I mean, you talk about the scandal with the with the schools, with Felicity Huffman and Lori Lockwood. I mean, you know, they operate in a different way.

• 37:13Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 37:13Speaker 02

  They just do.

• 37:14Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 37:14Speaker 02

  And I got in, my brother got in because we just didn't know any other way to get in. You work hard, right? You get in. And I just think that, you know, I always say to my friends, I said, this is where the haves have it wrong. The haves don't realize that the have-nots don't want mansions and cars and stuff. They just want to kind of lead a decent life.

• 37:33Ed Mylett?

  You're right.

• 37:33Speaker 02

  And you guys don't give them any room.

• 37:35Ed Mylett?

  Mm-hmm.

• 37:36Speaker 02

  Right?

• 37:36Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 37:36Speaker 02

  You guys hit them all the time.

• 37:38Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  You know, baggage fees. You think a baggage fee affects a millionaire? No.

• 37:44Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  But but for a person who's traveling with a family of four, and then they got now paid 25 or 30 bucks for a bag?

• 37:50Ed Mylett?

  You got it.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  That makes a big difference to these people.

• 37:53Ed Mylett?

  Huge difference. You know, a big difference? Gas taxes, too. There's other ways to tax people than fuel, and that hits poor people disproportionately in a huge way.

• 38:02Speaker 02

  A huge way.

• 38:02Ed Mylett?

  Where they run out of food at the end of the month because they're paying a tax on gasoline and things like that. So, you're up. We think very, very, very similarly. I can already tell. Now, by the way, I want everybody to know one thing. You can get life momentum. And at different levels of life, life does get a momentum and collaborations do begin to happen, even how you and I met, right? It's not some secret society.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 38:25Ed Mylett?

  But we are connected with some very similar people, and it makes life... Getting it off the ground, if you come from that place of have-not, is a very difficult place. But there is hope when you get it going because of the collaborations and the meetings and different little organizations you will meet that will afford you progress in your life, too.

• 38:42Speaker 02

  The two most important things to do that, in my opinion. Number one, surround yourself with positive people.

• 38:49Speaker 02

  Positive people. If you're surrounding yourself, I didn't say rich people.

• 38:53Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  But people who are positive, who are optimistic, who want to achieve in life. Surround yourself with them because it's contagious. And the second thing is, above all else, you must always believe in yourself. Always believe in yourself first. Because sometimes and often, you're gonna face situations where no one believes in you.

• 39:11Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 39:12Speaker 02

  And if you allow people's lack of belief in you to dissuade you from believing in yourself, you can't accomplish.

• 39:17Ed Mylett?

  Did that never happen to you? I'm curious, let's be real. You grew up with a single mother, African American. You're now getting into this world where it is not the norm every single day. You're not seeing, if you walk into a room of 300 people, there aren't 299 that look like you that come from where you come from.

• 39:34Speaker 02

  No way.

• 39:34Ed Mylett?

  So speak to people that relate to that for a second. Did you ever struggle with that? Or was there something your mother did, or something internally you had? Your own confidence, your own... I just put a post out yesterday, one of my most responded to posts, and it was about when I started to make progress for me. And obviously, I come from a different place than you. But even me, when I got to that new room, that new place, me going, I don't know if I belong here. I would have these thoughts like, maybe it's a fluke, maybe I got lucky, maybe they're gonna figure me out here. I still have that once in a while. They're gonna figure out who I am, right? And so I know if I had some of that, did you have any of that? Or are you just wired differently?

• 40:10Speaker 02

  Never.

• 40:11Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  I never, ever had a scintilla of thought that I didn't belong. You wanna know why? Because from a little kid, I believed my grandfather when he told me, if you work hard, you can succeed and win. I just believed it. I don't know what made me believe it, by the way, since I was a little guy. I believed it. And so, I always believed that if I did my work on time, I got A's, I didn't get in trouble, didn't mess with people, that good things would happen, and go to church on Sunday, good things are gonna happen to me. So when things started happening, I was very appreciative and respectful of it. But I never felt like I didn't deserve it because I felt like I worked for it. I mean, I really did, I mean, my brother and I...

• 40:54Speaker 02

  They played basketball. We used to go, wake up and this is funny, we used to wake up in the morning and go to our high school and run hills at five in the morning to get better.

• 41:03Ed Mylett?

  And then go get 4.4 GPA wherever the heck you were getting.

• 41:05Speaker 02

  And while, so while our classmates were sleeping.

• 41:07Ed Mylett?

  You were after it.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  Okay, we were after it. Four o'clock, five o'clock in the morning, up in the hills, we would see the milk guy come deliver the milk in the morning. It's, this is a true story. So I grew up in a way that the fire in me to succeed because I was, I always accepted even at a young age, I used to talk to old people a lot when I was young.

• 41:23Ed Mylett?

  Me too.

• 41:24Speaker 02

  And they would tell me stories. And one thing I got from them was that life is really short. And they would always say, geez, I can't believe all these years have gone by so fast. They would always say that. And then I would listen to them say what they would do differently. And what I realized is one common thing was they would have been more present in the moment.

• 41:41Ed Mylett?

  God, that's true. So true.

• 41:43Speaker 02

  Present in the moment.

• 41:44Ed Mylett?

  You, um, like one of my top two or three favorite answers ever because it was so honest. And I want to say something to you about it because I did have that struggle where I didn't think I belonged. And my way out, this is on hundreds of tapes and audios, is verbatim what you just said that you had the whole time. I started to go, wait a minute, I'm doing things no one's willing to do right here. I'm out working everybody. And what happened was my self-esteem changed because it was, became a self-worth thing. Self-confidence to me is the process of making and keeping promises to yourself.

• 42:14Speaker 02

  Oh geez.

• 42:15Ed Mylett?

  And I had this reputation, right, with me over time where I trusted me. And I felt more and more worthy of the rooms I was going into because I wasn't looking at who the other people were in the room. I was looking at me and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm doing everything that makes me belong in this room. And so you had it all along. I developed it as I got older.

• 42:31Speaker 02

  And I never allowed external validation to make me feel worthy, ever, ever. If you didn't want me at your birthday party as a kid, guess what? I didn't want to be there. I didn't want to slide through the back door. If you don't want me there, if, if a girl doesn't want to go out with me, I don't want to go out with you either. I don't want to be in a situation where you, where I gotta force myself on you or force a situation. I'm good. I'm good. I just feel like that has really, and it's helped me by the way, as I've gotten older and you know, listen, no successful person has not had tough

• 43:04Ed Mylett?

  Sure.

• 43:04Speaker 02

  times and tough moments. We all go through, right? The public doesn't always see it.

• 43:07Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 43:08Speaker 02

  But we all have our, our moments. And one thing that has kept me steady has been me believing in myself and realizing that I've worked hard and my validation is with me.

• 43:17Ed Mylett?

  Oh my gosh.

• 43:18Speaker 02

  And that, and that I set the highest standards for myself. I do. No one has ever had to set a higher standard for me than me.

• 43:24Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, you're special. I gotta say something, everybody. I'm gonna give you one more question here. Everyone that's listening to this right now, please do your colleagues and friends and family a favor, and make sure they know to listen to this from the very beginning to the very end, because there's so much in here. I didn't know we were gonna go down this road at the end.

• 43:42Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 43:43Ed Mylett?

  No, no, no, no, no. I'm grateful, because I want everybody to be doing that, because y'all know each other that'll listen to the program. Tell them, I know you started out, and they went through some unbelievable stuff on how to get healthier, and then this stuff at the end is bananas. So this is one of these, you listen to the whole darn thing. Last thing I wanna ask you about, just because I think it's cool. You got named by President Obama. I wanna give it the right name, Council of Fitness, Sports and Nutrition. You've been, you're the medical contributor on all these different shows. I've watched you on GMA. I've watched you on The Rachel Ray Show, which you're a part of. You were on The Doctors. You've been everywhere. I gotta think, though, that was one of the coolest things that's happened for you. And did you get a chance at all to interact and work with him, and if you did, what was that like?

• 44:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, so, you know, the White House is an amazing place, by the way.

• 44:28Ed Mylett?

  Is it?

• 44:29Speaker 02

  It just is. It's the people's house.

• 44:30Ed Mylett?

  I've been there on the tour, but I've been on the part you went to.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  You know, I think that, I think that, because it's our house, we own it, all of us own it. I think that we need to do a better job of giving people access, not just to the tour part. I mean, I don't know how to do it, maybe there's a lottery system, but some way, people need to see the rooms where the work happens. When work's not happening, like the Oval Office.

• 44:48Ed Mylett?

  Sure.

• 44:49Speaker 02

  And going into the Roosevelt Room, and seeing like all the presidents and the pictures and the famous. It's just unbelievable. So, to go into like the West Wing, you know, to actually go into the actual West Wing, is really something special.

• 45:01Ed Mylett?

  I'm sure.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  I love our country. I love our history, you know, the good and bad of it, right? Because no one's perfect. We've had some bad moments in our history, but I love our country. And I told you before, I travel a lot.

• 45:12Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 45:13Speaker 02

  And every time I go away, just in Japan, every time I go away and learn about other cultures and countries... It makes me love my country even more. Not that I don't like these new places, I love them too, but it makes me appreciate America more. But going into the White House and working with the President, Obama was just, he's just an awesome dude, man. Forget politics, like as a man, he was just a cool guy. You know, he had a swagger about him and, you know, we played ball.

• 45:36Ed Mylett?

  You did?

• 45:37Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, we played ball. I got this great picture at my house where he has his hand on my shoulder. The counsel is standing there like talking to him and Chris Paul, the basketball player, is standing next to me. And the three of us are kind of in a moment. And I love that picture because it's very candid, because you know, they got these photographers that are always going around. And it's just a great moment. But this counsel was an honor because I got a chance to sit down with my heroes. Like people like Billie Jean King, Carl Edwards from NASCAR, the gymnast Dominique Dawes, Michelle Kwan, the skater, Olympic skater, Grant Hill. It just-

• 46:06Ed Mylett?

  What a great group.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  It's unbelievable. And be able to sit at the table and you're like, geez, like, I'm at the table with these dudes? Like, like, like I count, you know, but um-

• 46:16Ed Mylett?

  Your life is remarkable and it's just, you're so young.

• 46:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, you're as young as you feel.

• 46:21Ed Mylett?

  You're in the middle of it, so you don't have context for it yet. But there's gotta be a little part, it happens for me once in a while, where I'll actually say something that actually really did happen. Maybe even when it was happening, I was like, and then I say, I'm like, wow, that was, wow.

• 46:33Speaker 02

  Well, well, you know, I'm glad you say that, by the way, and we can close on this. I always say that I like to work in the trenches. I like to work. I like to work. I like to make progress. That's just kind of how I'm wired that way. But every once in a while, I had to teach myself that you have to look up from the trench and see the landscape. Don't take a portrait view, take a landscape view and see kind of where you were. See where you can go. And that kind of guides you in life. And so for me, personally speaking, when someone will say to me, like, someone was introducing me. I don't usually listen to my intro. I'm like, oh geez, why are they reading this bio? Like it was on and on. But then I was like paying attention for some reason and like the dude was like going over my stuff I've done. I was like, wow, I did all that stuff?

• 47:18Speaker 02

  Like, I was like, honestly, I'm not being arrogant, but I was like, wow, that's pretty cool, like-

• 47:22Ed Mylett?

  I don't think you're the least bit arrogant.

• 47:23Speaker 02

  No, but like, I was like, wow, that's the kind of stuff I want to do. I actually did that stuff. You know, I worked three jobs when I was a young kid. Like when I was young out of med school, I was working for Time Magazine, for NBC News, and in the hospital as an intern. I did all three. Now, I did that because I didn't know any better.

• 47:40Ed Mylett?

  Incredible.

• 47:41Speaker 02

  Right? I was a young guy. It didn't make, I didn't need to sleep back then.

• 47:45Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 47:45Speaker 02

  I was all over New York, running and da, da, da, changing in the car like Superman, going to the hospital, going to Time magazine. But anyway, so I just think that, I want to say to people who are listening, I just think that people really have to find themselves.

• 47:58Ed Mylett?

  Mm-hmm.

• 47:58Speaker 02

  Right? And to, um, think about, I just said this to my mother, driving here. I said, "Ma, figure out how you want to live the rest of your life." Just figure that out. Figure out what's important to you.

• 48:11Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  You know? Don't, we're so quick to do things because it's expected of us.

• 48:16Ed Mylett?

  You're right.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  It's expected. But no, don't do that. A lot of times in my career, I cut across the grain. I stopped doing medicine for a while and went and said, "What? What, are you crazy?" I was doing orthopedic surgery. I stopped, I started doing TV. "You're doing TV?" All, the best decisions I've made in my life are decisions that I thought through, that I didn't allow others to overly influence.

• 48:36Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 48:36Speaker 02

  And I typically cut across the grain. I went in the direction that people said, "You probably shouldn't go that way."

• 48:41Ed Mylett?

  What great advice. Yeah. It's obviously...

• 48:44Speaker 02

  You've done it too, obviously.

• 48:45Ed Mylett?

  I have, but it's obviously worked. But I just think it's the most incredible advice because I, I wish you would say some things I could challenge today, because if I put it on the show, I'll challenge something.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  Next time.

• 48:55Ed Mylett?

  But, uh, yeah, next time we'll go, we'll get a little more controversial. But first of all, I want to say something to you. I want to say thank you on behalf of millions of people listening to this. Because the idea of this show is to both teach people things that they didn't know before they started, they can tactically implement.

• 49:08Speaker 02

  Sure, absolutely.

• 49:09Ed Mylett?

  Change their thinking to some extent, and then inspire them. And like, we hit tens out of tens on all three of those things today, so I'm immensely grateful for the time today. Everybody, make sure that you're following Dr. Ian Smith on Instagram.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  At Dr. Ian Smith, spell the doctor out, I-A-N Smith. And, uh, if you want to join one of our challenges, we do it on Instagram, but also on Facebook.

• 49:29Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 49:29Speaker 02

  So, um, they can email me, actually. Can I get that out?

• 49:32Ed Mylett?

  Sure.

• 49:33Speaker 02

  My email is A-B-Y-challenge, the numeral one, at gmail dot com. A Better You. A-B-Y-challenge, the number one, at gmail dot com. And I'll send you registration info, how you get into one of our challenges. But we have a lot of fun. And people make, people get the best results when they have support.

• 49:51Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. I totally agree with you.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  Let me tell you something. People are alone, and you don't realize how many people actually have your same problem.

• 49:57Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, so true. Right? I want you guys engaging with him. I just, thank you. That's all I can tell you. It was great, man. Thank you, I enjoyed it so much today. We gotta do this again sometime. I would love to do that again. Your next book will have you on. Okay, great. I would love that, which is coming out in April. In April, Mind Over Weight. It's all about the mind. Okay, so then we gotta have you on for that. Okay. All right, everybody, I know you enjoyed today's program. Reminder, every day on Instagram, the Max Out 2-Minute Drill. I want to engage with you. I want to know what's going on with you. I want to be able to have the right guests, the right content. Dr. Smith was here today directly because of the feedback I get from you guys about you wanting to learn more about intermittent fasting, and I'm so glad we went down these other roads. Max Out 2-Minute Drill means this. When I make a post every day on Instagram, which is usually 7:30 to 8:00 a.m. Pacific, 10:30 to 11-ish Eastern,

• 50:41Ed Mylett?

  you'll have an opportunity to make a comment on my post. And if you make that comment, or you comment on someone's comment on that within the first 2 to 5 minutes, we pick a winner every day. You get coaching calls with me, ride on the jet, my book, Max Out Gear, calls with my guests, all kinds of cool stuff. And if you miss the first 2 to 5 minutes, as long as you just comment every day on every post, there's just 5 or 6 a week. If you just do that every single day and stay engaged with me, we pick a winner from that group as well. So I'd love to connect with you more deeply. God bless you and continue to max out.

• 51:15Speaker 01

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