Trump Inauguration, Executive Orders, Meme Coins, and AI Infrastructure | The Tom Bilyeu Show

Welcome back to another electrifying episode of Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu. In this episode, we explore the groundbreaking transformation of AI from science fiction to science fact, as the U. S. embarks on ambitious AI infrastructure projects. We'll also delve into the intricate dynamics between major tech personalities like Elon Musk and Sam Altman and their influence over the burgeoning AI landscape. Additionally, there's a critical examination of Trump's strategy to propel America to the forefront, including his controversial executive orders and the expansive ambitions for AI and space exploration. As the conversation unfolds, we'll touch on societal shifts, the delicate balance of economic prudence, and the potential repercussions of these game-changing AI advancements. How will the job market adapt? What does this mean for America's middle class? And, importantly, how do meme coins and Bitcoin factor into this new frontier? From the nuances of civic pride to the stark reality of economic policies and international power plays, this episode promises a deep and thought-provoking discussion that you cannot afford to miss. So, buckle up and prepare for an impactful journey through the ever-evolving landscape of technology and society. CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS Range Rover: Range Rover: Explore the Range Rover Sport at https://landroverUSA.com https://landroverusa.com/ Audible: Sign up for a free 30 day trial at https://audible.com/IMPACTTHEORY https://audible.com/IMPACTTHEORY1 Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to https://www.vitalproteins.com https://www.vitalproteins.com/ and entering promo code IMPACT at check out. Goldback: Goldbacks are currency for now, and for the future, get yours at https://alpinegold.com/shop-precious-metals/ref/impact RoboForm: Protect yourself and get 60% off your first year with RoboForm at https://www.roboform.com/lp?frm=promo-discount-50&affid=tbily https://www.roboform.com/lp?frm=promo-discount-50&affid=tbily What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business:join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show SCALING a business:see if you qualify here. https://tombilyeu.com/call Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:sign up here. https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** Join me live on myTwitch stream https://impacttheory.co/4fitmnJ. I'm live daily from 6:30 to 8:30 am PT atwww.twitch.tv/tombilyeu https://impacttheory.co/4fitmnJ ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS:apple.co/impacttheory http://apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Trump also dropped an abundance of pardons, executive orders, and meme coins, all while promising to plant the Stars and Stripes on Mars. Do not hit pause on this one because we've got an action-packed episode for you today. Drew, kick us off now.

• 1:44Speaker 01

  I need some of that AI money, man.

• 1:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Bro, it's incoming. It's incoming at 500 billion. There is going to be plenty to go around. That's crazy town.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  CEO SoftBank said the commitment was 200. He was like, I'm coming back with five.

• 1:56Tom Bilyeu?

  It's crazy.

• 1:57Speaker 01

  500 million. So jumping right into it, Stargate, which is now the America's AI infrastructure. They have SoftBank financing it, Larry Ellison, the CEO of Oracle, kind of as an advisor, and then Sam Altman, Elon's boy, so that's gonna be interesting, is heading up the functional and operational aspect of it. They already have a 1 million square foot data center in Texas that's going up now, and they already outlined their next project. So what do you say that, what do you think this is gonna do for the future of America's AI?

• 2:25Tom Bilyeu?

  I mean, this is a very big move, and I think that in terms of places that you could be making an investment, making it into AI is exactly the place to do it. I didn't know that AI was this on Trump's radar. When he was first talking with Masasun of SoftBank, I didn't realize that this was the plan. I just knew that he was trying to get Masasun to invest 100 billion in US companies, I thought. And so that he's targeting AI is really important. I mean, look, my whole thesis is that AI, in the way that software ate the world, AI is gonna eat everything.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  Everything.

• 2:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Including human souls, much to my dismay. And I think that that really does begin in 2025. But just like I say, when it comes to America First, us staying at the top of the hierarchy is really critical. Right now, from what I've heard, China is really beginning to pull away on AI. They certainly have us on robotics, they have us on drones. I think that's going to matter a lot militarily. And then whoever wins the ASI Race, Artificial Superintelligence, you could get into a fast takeoff scenario where it does become winner-take-all. Now, hopefully, that's a low probability. But nonetheless, you cannot play around with AI. And everybody had their eye on the prize, which is the infrastructure is going to be the problem. And you see Microsoft spinning up Three Mile Island.

• 3:43Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't know if that trips people out as much as it does me. They are bringing nuclear facilities online for private companies. I mean, it's just absolute insanity. So very exciting to see the US making these big investments. And when I think of what America First means, it means being the strongest economic and military power on planet Earth. And we are not going to get there without a ton of energy, without a ton of cooling, which, for people that don't really pay attention to computers, might not think about how important. That's going to be and then just the raw infrastructure of the data centers, the cabling, all of that stuff is going to be really, really important. And I think people will really begin to understand what this is when you realize that as far as we can tell, the only thing that

• 4:28Tom Bilyeu?

  separates, say monkeys from humans is compute. Meaning if you stack enough neurons, it really does just keep getting more and more intelligent. So the size of the data center is the same as having a bigger and bigger brain. And unlike humans who are limited by a woman's desire to walk upright, that is not a joke. The size of our head is limited by what we can squeeze out the birth canal. And so computers just aren't going to have that limitation. And so as the data centers continue to get bigger, as our supply of energy continues to grow, theoretically, there's no known limit to the level of intelligence that we can build.

• 5:05Speaker 01

  And that's exactly where I was going with it. We have a million square foot facility. We have a private nuclear like nuclear site going live. Is this what America needs to be number one in AI?

• 5:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Hell, yes.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  Period, full stop.

• 5:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, and more and more and more. Like, this is really, this is really going to be a fascinating time because you're going to bring something online that theoretically will make life a lot better. It will extend all of our abilities. We're going to go through a meaning crisis. There can be no getting around that. We're going to go through a jobs crisis. And I think there's going to be a super weird feedback loop between as AI comes online and more and more companies stop hiring first and then begin shrinking their workforces using AI. That's going to create this need for money printing so that we can take care of people with either UBI or something like it. It's just going to happen so fast. I don't see a way around printing. So

• 5:59Tom Bilyeu?

  you've got AI creating this short term need to print money, which will drive more people into technology driven things like Bitcoin as a flight to financial security. And so we'll create a flywheel in the short term that will be very, what do they call it? Creative destruction.

• 6:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Will bring something better, but it is gonna be rough, man. So I look at this and I'm like, it's the right play. And all the while I'm also holding my breath of like, I don't even know what it means for us. So it's not like, oh, I look at it and go, well, everything's gonna be fine for us. I'm like, this throws everybody's cards into the air. But because it is, if you think of it as a weapon, which is unfortunately, one of the ways you must think of it, you'll realize you can't slow down, you can't stop. Uh, so yeah, we need more, more, more, more nuclear, more data centers, uh, more investments into the US. And the fact that Trump is aggregating international support for this, I think is really, really important.

• 7:07Tom Bilyeu?

  And I'll trust you to stop me if this fractal gets uninteresting. But when you look at Japan, they've really stagnated for a long time. And only Masasun at SoftBank has been taking these huge swings.

• 7:20Speaker 01

  He's going for it.

• 7:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, and look, he's had some huge catastrophic misses, but he hits just enough that this guy continues to be one of the greatest investors of all time. And this, like if he's really planting a flag and saying, we Japan who have real beef with China, like there is crazy historical friction. Uh, we're gonna plant our flag with America. That, that's a really good sign, especially when it's 500 billion.

• 7:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's definitely a win. And to your point, this is the runway that we asked for. Trump said he's gonna come in and do something for AI. He took away regulations, he gave us a blank check and said, okay, now go. So from Sam Altman's perspective, at this point, it's just a matter of weeks, months before AGI. I feel like.

• 8:03Tom Bilyeu?

  I can't figure out what to think about Sam Altman. I don't know if that, he's so quiet and unassuming. Like, is he an evil genie? I literally asked this earlier, you were here when I said it. And, uh, one of our teammates here was like, yes. And I was like, oh, uh, he is, uh, he's doing crazy moves. From taking a 501(c)(3) company and turning it into a for-profit company is already crazy. And we'll see if that ends up happening. But I think the most interesting thing with the Sam Altman connection is you've got Trump now connected to Altman in a huge way, connected to Elon in a huge way. But, um, Elon and Altman hate each other.

• 8:43Tom Bilyeu?

  And that is gonna play out in very interesting ways, but shows me that uh Trump is doing what he thinks at a minimum is good for his legacy. And as long as he ties America thriving to his legacy, which does seem like his play, uh, we're all gonna win. And he is so far and it's so early, so you know, play this in six months and it may look ridiculous. But so far, it really does seem like he's able to get these guys to um join him, either because he's telling Elon what he wants to hear about going to Mars, or who knows what he's promising Sam, but it is uh, right now, I'm seeing very encouraging signs of somebody who's getting very disparate people to work together.

• 9:27Tom Bilyeu?

  And that is super encouraging.

• 9:29Speaker 01

  Hundred percent. It's hilarious because last week we showed the Will Smith video of spaghetti 12 months ago and spaghetti now. So now imagine two years from now with a $500 million, a $500 billion with a B investment. Who knows what happens next, so.

• 9:42Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, also, the models are getting way more efficient. This is where China is really flexing its muscle. Is it showing, look, you can train these with a lot less energy need, a lot less compute need by getting the models way more efficient. And so if you're building these gigantor brains and they are dramatically more efficient, now all of a sudden, you know, what let's say would have been a one to one at the size of um computer brain that we're building now could be a hundred to one or a thousand to one. And so that's the same as making that facility a thousand times bigger. And so uh, man, this is just just going to, it's going to get so interesting, but it's going to move so fast.

• 10:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:23Tom Bilyeu?

  The rate of change is just gonna be blinding. It's gonna be blinding and this is gonna be um, it's gonna be mixed, it's gonna be mixed, there's no two ways about it. I'm as anxious as I am thrilled.

• 10:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm curious to see what happens, but Trump has not been slowing down. On his first day, he had a slew of executive orders. We're not gonna cover all 200 of them, but we'll cover a couple of the top ones. There was some that highlighted civic civic pride, that's the beautiful architecture, the restoration of merit. He ended some DEI programs. He had some where he. Covered fiscal responsibility for the emergency price relief, putting people over fish, flowing the water down in Southern California with hiring and regulatory freezes for the government until his people are in. And he also kind of moved first his America First agenda, emergency situation at the southern border, ended birthright citizenship, 90 day pause on foreign aid, and he did some major energy initiatives to build, so we can produce energy locally,

• 11:18Speaker 01

  as well as withdrawing from the parent climate agreement, the Paris Climate Agreement and the World Health Organization. So he has been busy.

• 11:24Tom Bilyeu?

  It's very busy and it's interesting to see what's going to happen. So I think it is really fascinating that Trump had four years on, did not know what he was doing, way in over his head, loses, now comes back and has had four years to plan to realize what this game is, come back way stronger and now only has four years to cement a legacy. And you're seeing him move very fast because he understands what he can do with the four years, but that they have to be incredibly organized, incredibly focused. And to come in with such a clear mandate from the people is, it's just really created an interesting vibe that I'm really excited to see what comes to fruition.

• 12:06Tom Bilyeu?

  But with the executive orders, it signals to people exactly what he's moving towards. And so you alluded to this as you just went through those.

• 12:15Tom Bilyeu?

  We went through and we bucketed them into what I think they should be grouped as. People will group these, I think, in very different ways. But now let's go through each of these buckets in the way that, we didn't, again, go through all of them, but I think he's signaling some very interesting things. The idea of civic pride, which is the first one, which were the ones that we put into that?

• 12:37Speaker 01

  The beautiful architecture, the restoration of merit.

• 12:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Merit, that's, that's the big one. So I want to combine this idea of merit with the notion of we want to make civic buildings, architecturally beautiful. Those two things to me feel like they belong to the same grouping because rather than talking about merit based stuff is like this Exodus out of D E I or we're trying to. Move away from the woke mind virus. The reason I don't like that framing is because I think people have to understand you want the tension between the left and the right. I think they are evolutionary mandated, necessary things in humans to get us to function together as a cohesive society.

• 13:21Tom Bilyeu?

  And so you need people that are no man left behind, like we have to be compassionate towards each other. And this goes back to, from an evolutionary standpoint, you didn't have refrigeration. So the only way to store calories that you couldn't eat right in the moment was to give them to somebody else. And so you're rewarded tremendously by taking care of the people in the group because one day it's going to be you that's down. You need to be taken care of. So we have that impulse. And there's been so much focus on the D E I way that that plays out where it's like become sort of toxic and no longer merit based. But the impulse from an evolutionary standpoint, I think is really important.

• 14:01Tom Bilyeu?

  And if you think about it manifesting as like the military with the no man left behind, like I will go into enemy fire to try to save somebody that's been injured. They'll even try not to leave a dead body behind. And that impulse, like if you think about it manifesting in such an honorable way like that, it will stop people from wanting, people on the right wanting to throw people out on the left. So I think that that's really, really important. So instead, if people can think of it as, all right, merit and civic pride, those belong together. And what they are is merit matters a lot. And the only way that we're going to get ahead is if we look at it and say, look, hard work works. It should be celebrated. We should venerate that.

• 14:43Tom Bilyeu?

  And by the way, these institutions, which are meant to help us all thrive as one big community. If we take pride in that, if we don't let litter be on the streets, if we don't let homeless encampments be everywhere. And instead say, not only should these buildings be functional, but they should be things, they should be spaces of reverence that they should have a sacred element to them. And as religion has died, that sense of the sacred has gone with it. And if you go to Washington DC, just Feels different when you're there and you feel very much like you're in an outdoor museum. And I mean museum in it is a space of reverence. And when you go in and you read like Lincoln's words in the Lincoln Memorial, first of all,

• 15:26Tom Bilyeu?

  that fucker could write like that shit just is so inspiring, but it's so laden with religious language and words and references. And so as that has lost its way, so has this sense of making these hallowed places. And this executive order to me tied to merit, that points at that impulse. And this is the right's way of saying, this is the part that we bring. The personal responsibility to venerate hard work and success. And I think just as one should really be embracing how important it is to

• 16:12Tom Bilyeu?

  think about the whole group and to not want to see people struggle and to want to elevate the whole group. You should also understand the free rider problem and that you want these hardcore motherfuckers. And to be like, yo, they are the best of us. They are the most accomplished and we want to elevate that, anybody who's striving for that. And we want to acknowledge and recognize when people achieve something extraordinary. Okay, because we are about to be back on a world stage where this stuff is going to matter. And for the last, whatever 70 years, it's been in the West relatively calm. I think that period's over. And so if we don't re embrace all this stuff, we're going to be in trouble. So this is the right asserting that side. Again, there should be a balanced tension between the left and the right. So I really like that.

• 16:56Tom Bilyeu?

  And if people hear those executive orders that return to merit, the celebration of all that, the beautification of public and civic spaces, I think they'll, they'll be moving in the right direction. I don't want that to be a left, right divide thing. I want to see everybody get behind that.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Be proud to be an American again.

• 17:11Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, exactly, exactly. And look, everybody should be proud of their team. So if you're from Yugoslavia, I want you to be proud of being from Yugoslavia. If you're from Japan, be proud of that. And of course, if you're in a state that is our enemy. I would still expect you to be proud of your country. So, but understanding this is how we're ultimately going to get the best out of each other. Now, as always, there is pathology on both sides. And so this can go too far. And that's why you need that balance. Uh, but that bucket is particularly exciting to me. I'm way prone to somebody who grew up in the eighties and knows what it's like to be super proud of America. And when you hear the national anthem, you see the flag waving, that shit is so rad. It was so jarring for me to watch the American flag become like a thing that people frowned on or they tear down,

• 17:56Tom Bilyeu?

  at least in LA, uh, if you hung it outside, that was so weird to me. Uh, just having grown up with, you know, the Schwarzenegger era, the just like, America is the best. I don't know. Anyway, that makes me sad. Uh, the next bucket.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  Fiscal responsibility.

• 18:11Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah. So this is where the rubber meets the road. So I love all the civic stuff. Yay. It's like, it's reverence. It's, um, seeing things as sacred, it's spiritual. This is the rubber meets the road. And at some point, like you gotta run a balanced budget and you have to have a way to actually fund all the things you want to do. And you can't keep robbing from the future, which is what we're doing right now. As somebody who has kids, uh, I hope that you really internalize that, uh, we can live well now at their expense, but that seems evil if I may be so bold. Uh, and so a return to fiscal responsibility. And look, I don't know if he's going to be able to achieve it.

• 18:55Tom Bilyeu?

  I expect virtually all of his executive orders to be fought against tooth and nail. Uh, so I'm speaking only to what I think these signal and what they represent. Uh, and why I hope people get behind them because whether you're running a company, whether you're running a household, you need to say, this is how much we make, this is how much we can spend. And it forces people to prioritize. And I really believe one of the great derangements of modern society is an inability to define your values and let your values determine your priorities. And when you're not forced to do things in priority order, you end up with a mess. And so fiscal responsibility is really about forcing everybody to say,

• 19:37Tom Bilyeu?

  we think this is more important than this other thing that is also incredibly important. And when I look at entrepreneurs, so I coach entrepreneurs a lot for people that don't know that about me, uh, and. One of the things that I find that they're almost universally terrible at, and I'm talking about people with hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue annually, and they're still absolutely terrible at this is prioritizing. And if you let everything be important, nothing's important. So, and you know, I know I use this example a lot, but it's because both of these things are incredibly important. And so being able to rank order them is a sign of my value system. So, America First as staying the world's greatest economic and military superpower. That's America First,

• 20:20Tom Bilyeu?

  priority number one. America First, priority number two, also very important, and I get why this really matters to people, is just making sure that Americans are doing well financially. Critically important, totally understand, but if I have to bring in some people from India or China or wherever to make sure that we stay number one military, number one economic, I'm going to do it because I think that is the thing that serves the most Americans. But you should be able to articulate what it is that you're fighting for. Hold tight, we're going to take a quick break.

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• 23:02Tom Bilyeu?

  We're back, let's dive right in. All right, so that was bucket two and his executive orders. Bucket three.

• 23:07Speaker 01

  America first, that's the emergency at the southern border and birthright citizenship, ninety day pause on foreign aid, energy initiatives, withdrawals from the parent, the parents climate accords and the World Health Organization.

• 23:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, so this one is probably the one that I'm the most like, okay, we're on a slope here and we need to be very thoughtful. There is a reason that societies fluctuate going back and forth between global minded to isolationist minded. And you're going to see that over and over and over throughout different countries, different time periods. And so we very much are in a populist moment where we ran the, I won't even say the globalist experiment because I have a feeling it's always going to work this way. That when everything is stable and there is a knowable world order within that sphere of influence, you're going to globalize as much as you can. And given that we had this opportunity where both China and India were on the come up,

• 24:05Tom Bilyeu?

  it was like, man, going global was thrilling because you could. Get things at way cheaper prices. And I'm talking as a consumer, not just as an entrepreneur. That you were just able to get so many incredible things for uh, really a fraction of what it would have cost to do it here in the US. However, you strengthen China. China was very shrewd during all of this. And they were like, thank you very much for the economic power. Now we're in economic power and we're building all these other alliances. America is making the classic empire mistake of you're spread out all over being the world's policeman. You're spending money left, right and center. You're having to print which every um, reserve currency ever in all of human history has done. And done to the point where ultimately they lose that status.

• 24:48Tom Bilyeu?

  It's just, it's so historically predictable that that you're going to be in that loop. So um, I get the retreat back to wanting to be protectionist and take care of yourself. And I actually think it's the right play because you can't ignore that China's become a superpower. You can't ignore that they make uh, like 70% of the drones that we use in our own military are made in China. Uh, so much of our stuff is made in China or other countries. And at a moment where we begin to re-atomize down into our individual nations. That is a huge point of weakness that will be leveraged against us. I think would have already been leveraged against us had China not hit economic hard times. Uh, so let's all be grateful for that. So.

• 25:32Tom Bilyeu?

  I think it's good, but it, there's pathology on both sides. So if we go too far isolationist, protectionist, then it becomes us against the world. And so um, I think Trump, given what I see if with just Elon and Sam Altman. Trump is more than happy to go to different parties who don't like each other, but try to bring them together. Now, look, Trump is bringing them together for the glory of Trump and hopefully America. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not delusional. Trump wants to secure his legacy. But for now, his legacy is married to making America great again. So cool. As long as there's no uh, friction there, yay.

• 26:17Tom Bilyeu?

  You can always trust people to be selfish. And as long as the most selfish thing that Trump can do is make America strong economically and militarily. I'm here for it. So securing our border, I think is hugely important. Making the cartels a terrorist group, I think is hugely important. At the headline reading level, I have a feeling that's a bigger problem than we think it is. That may start rearing its ugly head in the coming years.

• 26:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Native born or native launched is probably the right way to think about it. Native launched terror attacks. I have a bad feeling we're gonna see more of that. So all of that stuff feels like, okay, while I am a little paranoid, I think it's the right play. And so we'll just see if he tempers it.

• 27:04Speaker 01

  These were the ones that jumped out to me for that reason because

• 27:08Speaker 01

  it's a slippery slope between we have a problem at the border, let's secure it to now we're doing mass deportations. And I know that everybody should be

• 27:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Do you have beef with mass deportations?

• 27:19Speaker 01

  I think their second order consequences we're not thinking about. So, so yes, let's get all

• 27:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Cost? Or are you just worried about

• 27:28Tom Bilyeu?

  people get caught in the net that shouldn't have been sent back and now their lives are gonna be horrific?

• 27:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm worried about the people. I think that they're gonna get a shit end of the deal when this is all said and done. Cause the deportations are not like I'm taking you to your house. It's like, okay, line, get out, figure it out. But for even some of the rhetoric that like they're taking jobs, if we're looking at how is it gonna affect agriculture industry? How's this gonna affect the construction industry? There's certain industries

• 27:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Do you think it will for real, for real?

• 27:56Speaker 01

  If they're deporting at the numbers that we're talking about, I think that it's, you're not gonna just be like, okay, I just lost 10 workers today. I'm cool. Like, I think there's gonna be

• 28:03Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't know, man. So

• 28:04Speaker 01

  You calling bullshit on that? You think it will be good?

• 28:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Here's how I think it will work.

• 28:10Tom Bilyeu?

  When Obama just deported this shit out of everybody.

• 28:14Speaker 01

  Everybody, yeah.

• 28:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Millions. I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, so the reality is, I think that there's a, there is a heartstring pull of like, oh, I guarantee some people are gonna get caught up that if you look closely, you're gonna be like, oh shit, they sent a family back and they had like a seven year old and they all get murdered when they go back home. There's gonna be shit like that and it is gonna be grotesque and horrifying and it is going to really rip at the heartstrings. But the reality is, you get into this mess because you don't accept that there is no utopia, there's only trade-offs. And so there is human tragedy all the time, every day, and you have to do things at the level of policy, knowing,

• 28:55Tom Bilyeu?

  God, there's gonna be horrible things that happen. And it just, there's, there's no way, man. So this is where like Thomas Sowell and everything is trade-offs, there are no solutions, there are only trade-offs. And so you just can't step back and go, we've got a whole bunch of criminals just to keep it easy, right? And we caught them, we know they're here illegally and we know they just did a horrific criminal offense. We know that they had a horrific criminal pass before they got here, but they're here and so we're gonna let them stay. You can't.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:25Tom Bilyeu?

  So you gotta deport. And here is like, I, I believe the number is, uh, there is one thing you can do to a family to increase the likelihood of violence by 100X. I'm almost certain this is accurate. If it's not, if it's not to the number accurate, it is so directionally close, it might as well be. Do you know what that thing is?

• 29:46Speaker 01

  Know what?

• 29:47Tom Bilyeu?

  To have a stepparent.

• 29:49Speaker 01

  Really?

• 29:50Tom Bilyeu?

  Do stepparents beat the shit out of their kids? This is why, uh, you've got Cinderella, wicked stepmother, like that whole thing is just, uh, it doesn't mean that every stepparent is bad. I'm sure, I'm sure the overwhelming number of them are amazing. But the unfortunate reality is that the-

• 30:08Tom Bilyeu?

  In homes with stepparents, there is a hundred X more, a higher chance of abuse. So it's like, yo, so what I bring that up to say, let's say that you deport a father who commits a crime, was here illegally, and let's really make it horrible. It was like kind of a petty crime. And so, but you had a policy and the policy is like, you commit crimes, we're sending you back. And now that kid, their dad is gone and a new dad comes into the picture and all of a sudden they're getting abused. There, there will be just an unimaginable number of stories like that. I want to be very clear. I'm not saying by default, stepparents beat their kids. I'm just saying there is a statistic.

• 30:50Tom Bilyeu?

  So there will be story after story after story like that, but you, you have to have a policy, you have to draw a line in the sand and it is going to cause some bad things because it's a trade off.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. And the numbers right now definitely are sustainable. So we have to make a change. So we'll, we'll see, we'll monitor and the Obama thing is a good bring up too, because people forget that he was the most deportation happy like, yeah. And the economy did thrive under Obama. So maybe it is a big old nothing burger.

• 31:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Go nothing burger because there's emotional realities, but yeah.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. From an economic perspective, KPIs.

• 31:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  Speaking of economic perspective, did you get on this Trump coin?

• 31:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, Jesus, I hate meme coins.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  Full stop. You don't have a single meme coin?

• 31:33Tom Bilyeu?

  No, no. So really none, zero. So I have some meme NFTs, but no meme coins.

• 31:40Speaker 01

  Got you.

• 31:41Tom Bilyeu?

  So here's my take on meme coins. God bless you. It's just gambling. So you know my whole thesis. I want to be very clear. Meme coins are because people want to gamble and people want to gamble. One, because I think humans just like the instant gratification of a big win. So I think there's a dopamine feedback loop, which is why if you, if you have Parkinson's disease, again, directionally, this, what I'm about to say is all directionally correct, if not literally correct. But I believe with Parkinson's, because it's a dopamine deficiency, when you start taking the medication, people will develop like gambling addictions. Other crazy shit, but at the same time, I think that you also have the youth that have a

• 32:26Tom Bilyeu?

  lot of pent up frustration that they've been iced out of the financial system. They can't afford a house. All the things that their parents told them, go get a good education. You're now going to be hugely in debt. Go buy a house. I can't because they're way too expensive and I'm hugely in debt. Uh, and so all the lore that they've been given is, is really just out of reach. And so we're now beginning to slowly update that that's actually not going to be the way that this generation gets wealthy. And on top of that, you're creating this moment where things are going from analog to digital. And so, uh, the rate of change is so fast that regulators can't keep up with it. So you have the Wall Street, Occupy Wall Street vibe, Wall Street Bets from Reddit vibe.

• 33:08Tom Bilyeu?

  With a moment in time where they can create these meme coins and there's so much lack of clarity around what you can and can't do, and it allows them to just gamble on culture. And so I have a thesis that

• 33:24Tom Bilyeu?

  the, I'm in around it to stock market, but it's, it's really the entire ecosystem of investing. If you stop calling it investing and you start calling it gambling, then you will understand what it really is. But because it's a system created by incredibly smart people, like really scary, smart financial minds. And so it's like reading a legal contract. You don't understand it. So as a regulator, you're like, ah, I don't really know what to do here. And so they've gotten all kinds of shit passed that everybody's just like, oh yeah, options trading. There's nothing weird about that. Dude, you're, you're just betting whether a company goes up or down. What's the difference between betting on a sports team?

• 34:05Tom Bilyeu?

  In my opinion, literally nothing, except the financial markets have a dope cover story. And the cover story goes like this, by letting people gamble on these companies, you allow the companies to aggregate capital. And with that aggregate aggregated capital, they build the, um, the economic engine that has made America so great. Okay. That's amazing, man. And as long as everybody just goes, oh, cool. We let people gamble on this because we like the side effect of allowing these companies to do an IPO, raise all the capital and then let people gamble, whether it goes up, whether it goes down and I mean just all kinds of crazy derivatives and all this like crazy shit that I don't understand 90% of it.

• 34:48Tom Bilyeu?

  But no matter who I talk to, no one has disproven that is that all just fancy gambling. Okay, so really smart guys, make this thing up. People don't understand it well enough to say you can't do that because they just don't understand it well enough to regulate it appropriately. So then you get something like sports where people get it. Ah, that's dumb. And there's no cover story. It doesn't add up to anything. So we're not going to let you bet on that. So you get this moment where there's the frustration about the current system that we have. Current system is being used by the elites to basically continue to make money while the average person can't get ahead. And so they create these meme coins and just YOLO and just gamble.

• 35:30Tom Bilyeu?

  And it is exactly like sports betting. So I don't think that in the long run that people are going to win. I think that they will have fun, just like they will have fun at a casino. But on a long enough timeline, there most people are going to lose money. It is not going to be the normal person that is going to go in and, you know, be betting like even 52 or 55% right. And so they're just gonna miss just enough that they're never able to get ahead. But they had a great time. So if the youth want that financial system, they're going to get it because the youth will ultimately get the world that they want. But that's why I don't fuck with it. It's just gambling. There's no additional knock on effect of, well, at least I can do

• 36:15Tom Bilyeu?

  long-term investing because of this secondary effect of it really does build a company. I want to remind everybody, even though it's really building a company, it still is just gambling. Like when you own the stock, you're just gambling that someone down the line will be willing to pay more for it than you. So it's just gambling unless it pays dividends. I always have to caveat that. And so, look, this stuff is very complicated.

• 36:40Tom Bilyeu?

  And that's how we get these divergent systems. And so you're seeing the fancy version of gambling and you're seeing the just straightforward meme coin gambling.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  I resonate with that though, because that's the, that's the way to shoot your shot. That's the way to get big. That's the way to get rich. I compare it almost to the.

• 36:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's the way to get rich? Meme coins?

• 37:02Speaker 01

  Think about it from a wild, wild west perspective and how some people used to go out west to kind of try to find gold. Or some people used to try to dig wells, to try to have hit oil. Like, there's that level of, uh.

• 37:12Tom Bilyeu?

  And what do people always say about the gold rush? Who got rich in the gold rush?

• 37:17Speaker 01

  I thought it was the country dudes with the hat, the prospectors.

• 37:19Tom Bilyeu?

  No, none of those. All fucking went broke. All of them. It's always in the picks and shovels. Always in the picks and shovels. The only people that are gonna get rich on the meme coins, because they'll even say, well, it's the people that pump and dump. Those fools are gonna try to do it over again and over again. They're ultimately gonna lose everything. Like, none of those guys will ride off into the sunset. And if they do, it will be the smallest number of people. The reality is, it's gonna be the exchanges, they'll make out like fucking bandits, because whether you win or lose doesn't matter. So Coinbase is gonna make fucking bank off of this stuff. But I really, I just don't see it, man. The reason that the stock market has worked is because you could just put money into an index fund. And just say, basically, I'm just betting on the US economy.

• 38:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Cool. That, that gives people, like, you, you have to do it. Let's be very clear about that. Uh, because you have to beat inflation. But people are not going, some people will get rich in meme coins. But the people that have really gotten rich in crypto are Bitcoiners, probably some Ethereum people. The things that you can buy and hold for years and years and years. That's gonna be, anything where it's a long-term trend, but meme coins are betting on culture. You're literally just saying, like, let's take the Trump meme coin, meme coin. Here's what's going on. Hold tight, we're going to take a quick break.

• 38:43Tom Bilyeu?

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• 39:26Tom Bilyeu?

  My link gets you an exclusive 30 days free instead of the usual 14-day trial. There's no credit card payment needed. Just head to pipedrive.com/impact to get started. Again, that's pipedrive.com/impact and you can be up and running in minutes. And we're back. Let's take the Trump meme coin, meme coin. Here's what's going on. Why does Trump make such a great meme coin? Because culturally, nobody has more focus than him. So you're going to get this ultra-high volatility. Remember, people want volatility because they're gambling. So they're saying, if the price doesn't change, what are you betting against? Yeah, what's the point? Right.

• 40:10Tom Bilyeu?

  The only thing to bet against is price go up or price go down. That is the bet. And so if price static, no bet. So we need something with a ton of attention. So people are really paying attention to it. So that the price will swing wildly. So literally, hours before we recorded this, Trump said, oh, I don't know much about my meme coins. Price dropped by 30%. Okay, now people are going to squawk and they're going to freak out. But the reality is, people want that volatility. And so people are going to be laughing, saying, ah, ha, ha, I bet against all these fools that didn't realize the price was going to go down. So I bought the second I heard about it. And when it spiked up, however much it spiked up, I got out immediately because greater fool theory. Okay, that's the meme coin game. And so it's going to be all these private groups where people are talking.

• 40:55Tom Bilyeu?

  What do we think? Do we think it's going to keep going up or are we going to get out? It's just on and on and on and on and on. And so these guys bet on culture. It attracts the same people that poker attracts. And in the final analysis, man, I'm obviously, I'm guessing, I'm guessing, but I'm gonna guess. 5% of the people make the money. 5%. 95% are all the greater fools. And they're the exit liquidity, as they're known, lovingly referred to as dumb money.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  So you're saying there's a chance 5%?

• 41:28Tom Bilyeu?

  I'm saying there's a chance. I'm saying there's a chance, Drew.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  Hey, man, I'm just trying to get this oligarchy money cuz Trump had a trillion dollar inauguration. There was Bezos was in there, Zuckerberg was in there, Musk was in there, David Sacks didn't even get a picture. He was somewhere in there like with banks.

• 41:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, why didn't we see Sacks?

• 41:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, we didn't see Sacks in there, so.

• 41:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, so I.

• 41:49Speaker 01

  The oligarchy is strong with this one.

• 41:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Look at this image. Look at this image. I admit, I felt some kind of way. I was like, oh my. Yeah, there's, there's a lot of, a lot of wealth there. Okay, so one, people should be paranoid because oligarchy simply means that a small number of people rule over the majority. Now, they can rule over them because it's a caste system. They can rule over them because they're in the right religion. They can rule over them because they're wealthy. So oligarchy is real. Money is extremely powerful. And it's very easy to get people's attention. And so this could, of course, slide into oligarchy. I don't think we're there yet. I think that's very delusional to say that we are.

• 42:37Tom Bilyeu?

  But I like that people are paying attention. I like that they're paranoid that this could become that. I think that's very wise. The reason I'm not, even though it does hit me, I would be lying if I said it didn't. The reason that I'm still optimistic is I think there's two things happening at once. That these guys are there because they're insanely good at capital allocation, at building businesses, at identifying trends, at being early movers. And so they get it. They know how to play this game. The reason they have the money is because they're very good operators.

• 43:22Tom Bilyeu?

  They are incredibly smart. And so I want the smartest people whispering in the president's ear about how to make the country great. And as long as they all understand the single most selfish thing they could do is have a thriving middle class. Because ultimately, that's who buys their products. And anybody that's paid attention to world history knows when inequality gets too much, they literally come and kill the rich. They murder you. Yeah. Okay, not metaphorically. They actually separate your head from your body. So you're already seeing people cheer the United Healthcare CEO getting killed. You saw people cheer when the Pacific Palisades, which happens to be a very expensive neighborhood, burned to the ground.

• 44:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Nobody talked about the trailer parks that burned because that doesn't fit the narrative. But if people can see the signs, it's like, boys and girls, just be selfish. Yeah. Just be selfish and protect your long-term interest by making sure that we have a thriving middle class. So these guys, everyone in that picture, as far as I know, is self-made. So we want the most successful people running businesses to be talking about how to execute well. What we don't want is them shoveling money towards all the things that they care about. Now, anybody that's like, it shouldn't be business owners, it should be politicians, I will point you towards, what's her name? Everybody follows her. Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi, thank you.

• 44:51Tom Bilyeu?

  So it's like, kids, it's not like politicians, you don't have to worry about them. So, but we have to be vigilant because this can go bad very, very fast. But for now, I would remain optimistic that we have wildly mismanaged the government in that every 100 days, I think it's actually a little faster now, we add a trillion dollars to the debt. So you have to do something. And with the looming threat of AI and us going into a cold war with China. You need the best and the brightest. And there is like something going on with the best and the brightest now are actually interested in being in government. That is fascinating. Who was saying this that now, I think it was Pom, Anthony Pompliano,

• 45:37Tom Bilyeu?

  pointed out that now going in, like if you get on the Doge committee, that that would be like having a Stanford or a Harvard MBA where people go, oh damn. Like, okay, you must really be bright to have gotten on that group. And now that it's high status to be in the government, more and more really bright people are going to want to go to the government and that's huge. That will resound to our benefit.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  No, that's definitely a game changer. I had like a mentor one time tell me that like to be a millionaire, you could do that by yourself. But to be a billionaire, you have to create a certain level of value. So as I look at this picture and I see that everybody's kind of nervous and upset, I always default to that. So I say like, okay, Elon Musk, yes, he's his big bad car, but he's his big bad guy. But everybody loves his cars or you see the CEO from Google's like, yes, he's his big bad guy, but you use his email. Everybody hates Bezos, but they need their packages there two days later. Everybody hates Zuckerberg, so they rant on his social network. So it's like, these people have incorporated themselves into your lives to a sense that you operate with most of them minus Elon probably every day, every other day.

• 46:42Speaker 01

  So it's like to then make them the villain, even though you directly benefit from their invention is a little bit of a oxymoron. Like it's a weird kind of way to like.

• 46:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Have you read Ayn Rand? Oh, man, Atlas Shrugged is interesting. It's, it is like a, a young adult's book. The writing itself isn't great, but the core thesis is like, hey, there are people that can build businesses and it is ridiculously difficult. And if you think that they're the parasite and that taxes aren't the parasite, like, what do you tax if you don't have people that are able to create that stuff? And it, I mean, look, I'm obviously wired that way, which is why I pursued entrepreneurship. But man, there is a really great quote, I'm going to paraphrase, uh, that says,

• 47:35Tom Bilyeu?

  communists believe that redistribution is the miracle, not the generation of the capital in the first place. And. People need to wrap their heads around the hard part is generating the capital of doing something that people value so much that they will pay you more than it costs you to create that that is so hard to do oh my god it's so hard uh taxing is easy

• 47:59Speaker 01

  Well said so if you had to like scale it one being like we're pretty good

• 48:03Tom Bilyeu?

  Was my anxiety level for oligarchy uh if 10 is uh we're in Russia and people are getting murdered in the background for saying something uh we're at a two

• 48:15Speaker 01

  Okay okay

• 48:16Tom Bilyeu?

  We're on the radar we're not on one we're certainly not a zero

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Okay okay

• 48:21Tom Bilyeu?

  But uh but yeah we're we're a very, very, very long way from that um we still have the tension between the left and the right if we become a one-party country that would scare me

• 48:34Speaker 01

  Yeah

• 48:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Because then people rise to the top of that political party and they just fucking dominate and the only way to do it at that point is through either literal violence or political violence uh you need look no farther than China it's the the story of how Xi Jinping came to power is pretty fucking crazy

• 48:54Speaker 01

  Hopefully we don't repeat that um alright moving on Michael Saylor doubled down on Bitcoin again doing another purchase can we pull it up I believe it was like 1.1 billion right

• 49:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah homeboy just is gobbling yeah 1.1 billion uh for another uh how many 11,000 Bitcoin for a total of 461,000

• 49:19Speaker 01

  At a 63 average

• 49:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Goodness gracious that is crazy I really am uh uh my brain melts when I think about what he figured out about the reality of our financial system so remember Michael Saylor is was technically is not anymore is the chairman but he was the CEO of a publicly traded company called MicroStrategy and he has a great business profitable all this money in the bank and he realized uh

• 49:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Stock price is getting punished because no one sees a path to us getting bigger and bigger and bigger. So even though we have a profitable business, we're doing great. Something like fifty million dollars in profit a year. I mean, like, really making real money. And the street was just like, nah, because again, what is it? It's gambling. Price go up. So the street's like, we don't like this. And so he's like, okay, wait, this is crazy. And because of inflation, the money that I have sitting in the bank is being devalued like crazy. So what do I do? Do I go buy a bunch of boats, yachts? Like, what do I do? I need to do something with my money such that it can't be inflated away. Discovers Bitcoin and realizes, oh, my God, like, this is the perfect way to store your wealth.

• 50:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Not only is it going up in value, but he sees finance as having physics that Bitcoin matches perfectly. And so he likens it to a waterfall. And he was like, once you realize that the laws of physics dictate that water evaporates, collects an amount and runs down the mountain, collects in a lake. And as long as there's a gap that leads to an area that's lower, the water is always going to run through that gap into the lower area. And so he's like, that is the perfect analogy for fiat money moving away from being inflated out of existence into sound money, which is Bitcoin. And so he's like, as long as that reality exists, meaning as long as there's inflation,

• 51:19Tom Bilyeu?

  fiat money is going to flow into Bitcoin. It just is like that's the physics that money seeks that state. And he's not wrong. Like, as people wake up to, wait a second, I can put my money in there and it it won't be inflated. Okay, more and more people are going to put their money there. And so, but that, a lot of people get. In fact, he wasn't even early to that. What he saw was, oh, my God, I can put it on the treasury of my company. And now I can pull a proxy for the entire financial gambling mechanism. The whole casino of the stock market, I can overlay it onto Bitcoin via my publicly traded company.

• 52:04Tom Bilyeu?

  It is so fucking brilliant. And so he's got all these different derivatives that people can buy for either high risk, low risk.

• 52:11Speaker 01

  I was in a leveraged one.

• 52:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, my God.

• 52:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:14Tom Bilyeu?

  So brilliant, so brilliant. And to me at least, makes it very clear to me that the real wisdom there is just accepting. The financial markets are a gambling system. I can pull that gambling system over into Bitcoin and let people gamble against Bitcoin. In this period where there's no other way to do it, other than to just buy Bitcoin directly. But you don't get all the different derivatives. I mean, just brilliant, it's so brilliant. Uh, and he's been rewarded. He is, uh, I believe either right behind Nvidia, tied from video or a little over. But, but in the conversation with Nvidia dude, like that's insane.

• 52:51Speaker 01

  To like the number four software like company back in the day and then now with this new ad, it's, it's holding it down. But hey, I'm one of the leveraged ones. He done bought me dinner a couple of days. So thank you, Michael Saylor. I will take those swings. It's interesting though, to your point of people go for the volatility. He pretty much was like, my stock doesn't move. Add Bitcoin and now my stock is moving with the volatil, like.

• 53:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Correct.

• 53:15Speaker 01

  Literally just strapped a motor to it.

• 53:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Because Bitcoin is volatile and now his company is a Bitcoin company.

• 53:21Speaker 01

  Exactly. Crazy. Well done. And last but not least, we caught your boy Zuck, uh, glancing over.

• 53:28Tom Bilyeu?

  This is so funny.

• 53:29Speaker 01

  So I thought it would be cool to ask.

• 53:33Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, this is AI. I want everyone to be very clear. This is AI, this is AI. But Jesus, is it funny? So, uh, I so feel his pain. So first of all, as a man, I just want to say. Evolution has created us such that the female form reaches inside your brain and squeezes dopamine centers, all kinds of fascinating neurochemicals. I am not above this. This is why I find this so funny. I am laughing partly out of anxiety. Uh, but a camera shutter can be like one one thousandth of a second. So this motherfucker thought, I can just sneak. The thing is, I bet he didn't even think about it.

• 54:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:13Tom Bilyeu?

  Out of the corner of his eye, he saw cleavage, boom, his brain says, look, which there are evolutionary reasons why you would do that. He looks, he immediately looks away, I would like to believe, but the camera, boom, catches him. And they could have been doing that.

• 54:27Tom Bilyeu?

  And they just happened to get him that one second when he glances over unwittingly. And now it's just memed fucking death with this AI slow pushing.

• 54:41Speaker 01

  To your point, he could have been looking for one second and now it's immortalized.

• 54:46Tom Bilyeu?

  And because of AI, the first time I saw this, your brain doesn't go, oh, this is AI. You're just like, oh my God. And then of course it kicks in you like this has to be AI. But that is high.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Have you ever got zucked? Have you ever got caught looking?

• 54:59Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't think so. First of all, my wife is, God bless her soul, and I hope she can hear my voice right now. We were once at a pool party and there were these two women topless making out. This is at the Roosevelt Hotel. This is not like some crazy. No, literally the Roosevelt Hotel. I could not have been more surprised that this was happening. I'm there with my, uh, my sister-in-law, my brother-in-law, my wife. We're all just enjoying a pool party and all of a sudden my wife is like shaking me by the shoulder. She's like, you've got to see this. Uh, and so she pointed it out to me. So God bless my wife is not weird about that at all in the slightest. But as an entrepreneur, I literally 15 years ago had to say, you've got to shut that part of your brain off.

• 55:43Tom Bilyeu?

  So when I'm in the office, I just fucking kill it, man. So I'm like, if I'm walking up the stairs behind a woman, no universe, not a shot, not a glance, no look. Like, bro, you just can't because now you've got power dynamics. That shit is so fucking high risk. So yeah, you can't play that game. But that is you, I have to actively like turn that part of my brain off. When I'm stepping into the office, you just have to fucking kill it.

• 56:09Speaker 01

  It's hilarious. I used to work for a software company out in Phoenix and sales guys, you were, they were getting killed with their numbers. They weren't able to convert. They created a AI bot on LinkedIn. Her name was Alexis Kane, blonde hair, like busty, all those things. Their conversions like went through the roof and I found out that there was like three iterations. And they were like, if the women's name that they make up have an X in it, it like doubled it.

• 56:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Really?

• 56:37Speaker 01

  That's why I tell Lexis like Kane, it was like it had to be an X in the first name. And like a short last name, like they had this thing to a science and I'm like, you guys are really creating fake LinkedIn profiles. Like yes, they would send messages to the sales guys. Oh yeah, I'm free for lunch. We can meet tomorrow. And immediately.

• 56:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Did you ever see the show Selling Sunset?

• 56:54Speaker 01

  I haven't, no.

• 56:55Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh my God, you gotta check it out. So it's the biggest fanciest houses in LA. And 98% of the salespeople are very attractive women of a certain age. It just is because you get the guy who's like, first of all, most of the buyers are going to be men. And you get the guy that's like, I subconsciously, if nothing else, want to impress this woman. And guys can't help themselves. It is the ultimate signal to a woman that you can afford something like that. And women do not under- no, many women do. Understand the power they have over a man who instantly becomes a fool for sexual attraction. It is unbelievable.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  Stay safe out there, fellas.

• 57:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Stay very safe, gentlemen, and keep those ladies safe by being a good gentleman. May it always be such. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, be sure to subscribe. And until next time, my friends, be legendary. Take care. Peace.

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