Darryl Strawberry: From Baseball Legend to Redemption

Approval in minutes, small business funding same day for up to $500k. Apply Now https://cardiff.co/ED You are not stuck with the person you have been. Darryl Strawberry is back on the show! His last visit was one of the most shared episodes we have ever done. This time he went deeper, and I got emotional sitting across from him. Darryl was one of the greatest players I have ever watched: seventeen years in the big leagues, Rookie of the Year, four World Series. He has also lived through addiction, cancer twice, the loss of a kidney, and a heart attack. When they wheeled him into surgery, he told God he was okay either way. He has had to start over more than once, and he tells you exactly how he did it. I ask him the question so many people are carrying right now: Who am I when the thing I built my identity on is gone? A marriage, a business, a career, a title? I share how the imposter syndrome still shows up for me and how i handle it. Then I lay out my belief that God plants two or three real gifts in each of us, and that they get revealed through pain and through serving others. I push Darryl on how you stay confident and fierce while still surrendering your life to God, and Darryl answers with total honesty. Here's what you'll gain from this episode: Identity after the loss: What to do when the thing you built yourself on is gone. The disqualification lie: Why the mistakes you think rule you out may be what qualifies you. Pain and service: The two doors that reveal gifts you did not know you had. Surrender and self-belief: How to stay fierce while still giving up the wheel. Other people's opinions: How Darryl handled millions of people forming a view of him. The operating room: What he said to God on the way in, and why it will stay with you. Game 6, 1986: What really went on in that dugout, and I make this Red Sox fan relive it. Darryl said it better than I can: you did not get into this mess overnight, so you will not get out of it overnight. But if you refuse to believe it is over, you get another life. Get up. #MAXOUT 👉 SUBSCRIBE TO ED'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL NOW 👈⁠ → → → CONNECT WITH ED MYLETT ON SOCIAL MEDIA: ← ← ← ➡️ ⁠INSTAGRAM⁠ ➡️ ⁠FACEBOOK ⁠➡️ ⁠LINKEDIN⁠ ➡️ ⁠X⁠ ➡️ ⁠WEBSITE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:05Ed Mylett?

  Welcome back to the show, everybody. So today's one of my favorite people I've ever had on the show. I didn't tell him that off camera. I'm telling him that on camera. I enjoyed our time so much together. He's really special man. You know him because he's one of the greatest baseball players, literally of all time. In my lifetime, he's on one hand of the greatest players I've ever seen. Seventeen years in the major leagues, let's see, four World Series, Rookie of the Year, home runs, just bananas. He's awesome. And that's not why I wanted him back on the show. I wanted him back on the show because he's one of the most remarkable people. He's changed his life multiple times. He also loves Jesus, which is something that we share in common.

• 0:49Ed Mylett?

  And just there's something happens when we get together that was a flow. It's one of the most shared shows of all time, and I'm hoping that's the case again today. The great Darryl Strawberry. Welcome back to the show.

• 1:00Speaker 01

  Well, thank you so much, Ed, man. It's so good to see you, man. It's been

• 1:03Ed Mylett?

  It's been too long.

• 1:04Speaker 01

  Been a couple of years. You moved out of California, now to Florida.

• 1:07Ed Mylett?

  And you've had a heart attack and a bunch of other

• 1:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, all the good stuff.

• 1:10Ed Mylett?

  By the way, before we begin, he has a new book out called Another Life, and it's outstanding. And that's kind of what we're going to talk about today. So let's start, let's go back. You've had multiple lives. In fact, you're lucky to be alive, right? I don't know if everybody knows this, but Darryl's been pretty public with the fact that when he played, he was this unbelievable player, but he, he had a good time on the side. So there was some drugs and some stuff and had some issues happen. Then, once all that gets going, then he has colorectal cancer. We almost lose you then. And now, just in 2024, you've, you had a heart attack.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  Yes. Well, thanks for reminding me about the good time I had when I was a player. Yeah. I really was a wild, wild man. He didn't lifestyle plan here in New York City. It was wide open in the eighties. I was young. I was 21. So I experienced a lot of things and got caught up into a lot of things, but it didn't derail me from playing baseball because that's what I always wanted to do. So I, I knew how to do that. I just didn't know how to live.

• 2:05Ed Mylett?

  Didn't know.

• 2:05Speaker 01

  So it, it costs you later on in your life at some point. I always tell people that you can pick your sins, but you can't pick the consequences of it. And the reality is, is I had a lot of consequences that, that came with it. And so I paid a lot of price for that. And also for my health issues. I paid a big price for that. And it's just all part of life. Life is just like a, a journey, a journey that you go through. And I always tell people, there's three phases of life. There's your childhood, there's your middle part, and then your end part. Which way you want to finish, how you want to finish your race. My, my goal is to finish the race strong.

• 2:47Speaker 01

  I had all, all the things that I wanted to have in life, had all the fun and was at the top of the mountain and looking down and realizing that nobody's really up there. Everybody pretends to be your friend because of what you have and who you are. But when the real reality comes and when, when things really hit, you'll find out what people are really like. And I'm, I'm grateful for that, that I was able to go through that and experience all that and really turn out to reinvent myself.

• 3:14Ed Mylett?

  Multiple times.

• 3:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 3:16Ed Mylett?

  Those people, one dude never leaves us. You and I both know that. But also, like this book, you did, part of the reason you wrote this was your wife, right? I mean, how important has she been through this whole journey for you?

• 3:29Speaker 01

  Well, she's been the creator for everything, you know, to help me really straight, straighten out my life. She was the one that led me back into church and I sat for seven years of going through discipleship because she was already there. She's a, she's a brainiac of the family. So she's smart as ever. So she can create a lot of things and, and she had found her way. And she was just waiting for me. And she started showing me way, telling me, you got to pick up the pieces. You created it. You're responsible for it. You made a mess and you got to clean it up.

• 4:03Ed Mylett?

  It seemed like, like, I've had a little bit of this in my life, but nowhere near like what you've had. Like, people love who they think, Darryl Strawberry. They love the baseball player. Like, they love the achievements. They love what comes with being your friend when that's all there. Seems to me like she loves you. Like, you know what I mean? You know the difference, right? Not the image of you, but the you with all of the difficulties and the trials and the tribulations. She actually loves you, which is different than loving the idea of somebody.

• 4:32Speaker 01

  That's so true, Ed, because I had nothing when I met her. So we were talking about, I was in debt, in trouble, in addiction. She was pulling me out of places and telling me that God has a plan for your life. I said, why don't you, you and God just leave me here and let me die? And she pointed her finger at me and told me, you're just not that lucky.

• 4:51Ed Mylett?

  Really? Were you, were you, you didn't tell me that last time. Were you really okay with dying at some point? Were you that? Were you almost killing yourself, do you think? Like, almost subconsciously with the partying and the difficulty that you went through? Were you at a point where you were like, I'm okay?

• 5:05Speaker 01

  Most addicts do. Most celebrities end up dying because nobody ever tell them they have a problem. They always kind of sweep it under the rug. And that's why you see so many of them die, like Whitney, Prince. And it's sad. Elvis, you know, you go down the list. Matthew Perry, you know, you go down the list of people and people don't want to tell them, you know, you really need help. You really need to go in a different direction and seek after some serious help. Are you going to die? I think a lot of times people don't think the drugs are going to kill you. At one point, at some point, it's going to kill you. You can only take so much. The heart can only take so much.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  And I was at that place many times where I just felt like, just let me die out here. Let me just die. I was never concerned about the great Darryl Strawberry, a baseball player. I think more people were concerned about that. I was concerned about my mother. And Tracy became just like my mother because I said, God, if you really want me to live, send me somebody like my mother. And she was the one that came. My mother was a wonderful woman. And why I say that? Because she raised me right. It wasn't like she raised me wrong. I'm the one got out there in the lifestyle, the atmosphere, and just continue to live a sinful lifestyle.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  And I think people don't realize it's a price to pay, especially when celebrities live it. Because we've been given so much. And I'm, I'm a strong believer in to whom much is given, much is required. There's a great requirement out of it. And I wanted to always be the right person because I saw it in Gary Carter, my teammate.

• 6:55Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 6:56Speaker 01

  And I saw it in Mookie Wilson. I saw two guys throughout my whole career actually really live according to the right way.

• 7:05Ed Mylett?

  Really?

• 7:05Speaker 01

  And that was amazing to see that because Carter already knew he was going through the Hall of Fame.

• 7:11Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 7:12Speaker 01

  He had already been a great

• 7:13Ed Mylett?

  He'd already probably qualified with the Expos.

• 7:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:15Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 7:15Speaker 01

  He's already been a great baseball player. And I was wondering, why is this guy so happy? Why is he not struggling? Why is he not drinking? Why is he not messing with other women? And it was because of his faith. And he didn't like throw it up on anybody.

• 7:31Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  You know, he was just a guy that lived it every day. And that was special. And Mookie too. And he was very quiet. And he just lived his life in a special way. And I was like, man, that's what I want.

• 7:44Ed Mylett?

  Well, can I tell you, brother, I feel like, I don't even know why, I have something right now. I'm even a little emotional about it. I do feel that way about you. I just want you to know, I don't think you give yourself enough credit. First off, it takes a whole lot of courage to be as transparent with your sins and mistakes that you've had. Most people, especially in the public eye, never would do that. And I, I want to give you credit for that because I think it connects you with people, especially the people listening or watching this, millions of people, that maybe they can turn their life around too because you did. So that's number one. But number two, when I met you, you came to my house that first time, you were Darryl Strawberry when you walked in my door. I mean, I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is this guy that was one of the greatest players, literally, I've ever seen in my life.

• 8:25Ed Mylett?

  And by the time you left that day, and two right now, when I think of you, I, baseball's about fifth on the list of things. Like, I want you to know that when you come up in my mind or people bring you up, they know that we're friends, it is actually how much you love the Lord that comes up first for me in my life. It's the thing I think of first. It's like, oh, and he also played baseball. And the reason I mention that to you is, I'd like you to, this is a hard question, but there's a lot of people that find themselves right now, their identity was tied to something other than maybe who they really are. They were, they've had a divorce and somehow that marriage was their identity and they're feeling lost right now. Or they had a business that failed. Maybe they were an athlete and it's gone away. But some things left them that their identity was tied to, right?

• 9:10Ed Mylett?

  You had that happen in your life. How does someone remake themselves and find themselves? Because, you know, you, you not only were a player, you were one of the greats. That identity leaves, that's kind of like a crisis for a lot of people. Who am I without baseball? Who am I without that relationship I was in? Who am I without my money or my business? For someone listening to that, what would you say to them?

• 9:31Speaker 01

  I would tell them that failure is a part of life. It's just like succeeding. If you can accept the part that you're going to have some failure, that means you got to learn how to get up. And you can't quit. And I, I think a lot of that comes from where I grew up. I'm from South Central LA. So you see a lot of different things when you're growing up in those neighborhoods. And you see a lot of guys over there having failure and never get up. And I, I know that it's a part of life and it's a part of life playing baseball. You're going to have some failures in baseball. And if you can accept that, you will never be successful. And that's the way I groom myself, you know, by playing baseball, you know, okay, I got to balance this out.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  It's the same way with life. You have to balance it out. You have to understand that you are going to have some difficult times, some trials and tribulations. And my wife is so incredible. She taught me about that. It's like, you have to get up. You can't just lay here because if you lay here, you're going to die and with anxiety, depression, loneliness. You're going to start feeling that way for yourself. And I started to realize that even more when I got connected to divine. And when I mean, when I got connected to Jesus, when I got connected to the word, I started realizing that So much more about accepting my shortcomings.

• 10:58Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  More than anything, instead of saying, well, this is just the way life is, is the way it's supposed to be. No, that's not the way it is, because when I started understanding Christ, I started understanding that he had completed the task for every last one of us. So why am I sitting here and saying, this is the way it is?

• 11:18Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 11:19Speaker 01

  Had he not done that for us, and if you don't know that, then you don't know that you can get up, because he got up.

• 11:26Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 11:27Speaker 01

  So he's.

• 11:27Ed Mylett?

  That's right.

• 11:29Speaker 01

  So he taught us how to get up. And I think that's been the greatest success that I've ever learned is giving God my heart. And not my ability, not my skills, not my education, not my conversations, but my heart. And when that happened, I realized more than anything that I had became a different person. And I started to be able to accept anything that would come through my household, we're gonna get through it.

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• 13:26Ed Mylett?

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• 14:09Ed Mylett?

  why would anybody listen to me? You know what I mean? Like, why would people listen to me? I have that, that like impostor still floats up for me. The other thing I always think of is, I think a lot of people feel like they're disqualified in life from having a second act, or having another life, based on mistakes they've made previously. So like, this sin I've had, this disqualifies me. My divorce disqualifies me. This failure disqualifies me. I think for a lot of people, the fact that they've just maybe always felt average or invisible means they're disqualified for now. You've had multiple lives. I have to think that at least occurred to you at one point, like, oh, now I'm gonna get to talk about Jesus? I'm gonna be a minister? I'm gonna preach?

• 14:50Ed Mylett?

  Did you ever feel like, hey, these past transgressions, mistakes disqualify me? Because I think a lot of people feel that way.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  I felt that way when he was calling me, and I was like, no, you got the wrong guy.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  I was like, no, he's like, I got the right guy. I said, don't you know what I've done? He, God says, I know what everybody has done. And I said, I'm not qualified. He said, no one is qualified. I qualify to call. And when you start to learn that, that he's not looking and condemning you for your shortcomings, he knew you were gonna fall short.

• 15:22Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  You know, I think most of us don't really get that, you know, when they go back to Genesis 3, Adam and Eve in the beginning. You know, one man opened the door for all of us, fall short. And then he brings his son Jesus through the gospel, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, that would bring grace and extend grace. See, that's what we fail to realize more than anything.

• 15:43Ed Mylett?

  You're right.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  It's the grace of who he is. And he extends it to everybody that freely accepted. But you have to accept it, and then you gotta do something with it. Because I always tell people, grace is something I don't deserve, but he gives it to me anyway. And that's what another life is about. Another life is not about me, it's about what he's done through me. And when you get to that position where he has done the work through you, he's going to send you. Now he's going to send you for others. See, I think a lot of times, Ed, in this life, we think it's really, truly all about us.

• 16:20Ed Mylett?

  I agree.

• 16:21Speaker 01

  What we do, what we have, you know, I've fallen short. Well, welcome to the club.

• 16:28Speaker 01

  It's part of the whole journey of everybody's fallen short. And I always tell people, pick yourself up. Have some faith, and trust God, and let him lead your life. Let him lead you the way that he wants to lead you. Because a lot of times, we want to lead ourself.

• 16:45Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 16:45Speaker 01

  You know, we have this, we have this place of us, which I call the body. And it's our flesh. And it always want to tell us what to do. And you have to get connected to the spirit man of yourself, so it can lead you and guide you. Because God wants you to be successful, no matter what you're doing. If it's in business, if it's in ministry, if it's wherever you're at, he wants you to have that. But don't create this place inside of you that it becomes all about you.

• 17:19Ed Mylett?

  Gosh.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  You know, you keep your focus on his will, his principles, and he's gonna always take care of you. You know, he's gonna always, he's, he's taking care of me through cancer, twice losing my left kidney, should have been dead through addiction, diabetic, you know, heart attack two years ago. I was going through this process of having a heart attack, and I'm rolling into the operating room to have surgery, and my wife is going the other way, and I'm making this deal with God. I said, God, you know what? I went either way. If you want to take me now, I'm okay. I'm good. Because if I'm finished with your work, then take me. I said, but if you really want to leave me here and let me see, because they retire my number next year, I'd really like to be there.

• 18:06Speaker 01

  And there I am, making a deal with him because of the fact of knowing that he cares for every last one of us. And all, all he's asking for us is, just care for me. Just follow me. You can do all these other things.

• 18:22Ed Mylett?

  When you were wheeling in there, you were really okay if that was it?

• 18:25Speaker 01

  I was okay.

• 18:26Ed Mylett?

  Because you knew where you were going?

• 18:27Speaker 01

  I, I knew I've done everything. I've had everything. I've, I've seen it all and done it all. There's nothing that I haven't experienced in this life. And I realized that if this was it, I'm okay.

• 18:42Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 18:42Speaker 01

  You know?

• 18:44Ed Mylett?

  That'd have been different 10, 15 years ago.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, it would have been different.

• 18:47Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 18:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, and everybody said, well, you know, that's kind of pretty selfish. No, it's not. No, it's not. When you been and lived the life that I lived, and now you live on the other side, and you live in faith, and you walk, you will be ready when you know that. Because I know that living here, it's crazy.

• 19:06Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 19:07Speaker 01

  You know, chaotic, you know, everybody's against each other on every issue and every story. And, and that's not the way it's supposed to be. You know, we all are people. We all gotta, we all, we all have a date, a date of birth, and a date of death. So whenever he decides my time is up, I'm not gonna miss it. I mean, the kids and the wife, if I'm gone before they're, her, they're gonna miss me, but I'm gonna be on the other side.

• 19:36Ed Mylett?

  It would be nice to stick around and get your number retired like you did.

• 19:38Speaker 01

  It was, it was, it was really cool, because, I mean, because I had a lot to say. I had a lot to say to the fans.

• 19:45Ed Mylett?

  The platform was there for you.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, the platform was me to go back and tell the fans of New York City, you know, that I'm, I'm sorry that I left the Mets. Because that's where I grew up. It wasn't anything personal about the Dodgers or attacking them. People were trying to make out. I said, no, this is where I believe I became a baseball player.

• 20:06Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 20:06Speaker 01

  When I played here in the city, because these fans, they get after you. And, and I love that, you know, because I'm, like I said, I'm from, from South Central, so I love that. I love that when people dig into me, like, you can't, you can't, and I was just like, oh, wait a minute here, let me show you, I can.

• 20:21Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, don't you let out Darryl, because he's gonna get you.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  Well, that didn't bother me. The Red Sox fans did that.

• 20:28Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  But it was the boos when you, when you.

• 20:30Ed Mylett?

  When your own fans.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  When you suck, yeah, when you're two for 30 and they booing you, you suck. And I says, okay, well, I'm gonna hit two off the scoreboard, and then I'm going, you want me to come out for that curtain call? I'm not coming out.

• 20:41Ed Mylett?

  See, I wish I could have hit two off the scoreboard. Wish I could have just decided, I'm gonna hit two off the scoreboard. I'd hit two right back to the pitcher, then walk me out at first base. So, one thing about you, even if someone's not a believer.

• 20:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:54Ed Mylett?

  This thing you said is really true. You know, a lot of people that feel sorry for themselves, a lot actually say, you're really an ego. You know, you're the same as an arrogant person when you're down, because you've made the world about yourself. And one thing I've even observed in you, I've observed it in my own life too, but I want you to speak to this. Well, if I'm right, tell me, and if I'm wrong, tell me. But one thing that happens, when you start to serve other people, when you get out of you for a second, in your case, in my case, most of the time, we're, we're trying to do kingdom work. But even if someone doesn't even know what that means, they're watching this, just serving another human being. You know what happened to me?

• 21:31Ed Mylett?

  Skills and talents that I did not know I had began to get revealed to me in that service. You actually learn more and discover more about yourself when you get out of yourself and serve other people. Like your ability to speak and preach. I doubt you knew that when you were a baseball player. Has this happened to you? Like you've discovered some skills and talents about yourself as you've started to serve and get out of worrying about yourself all the time? That you didn't know before?

• 21:58Speaker 01

  It's the best gift that we give to ourselves. When we finally get out of ourself and serve others. It's better to give than receive. A lot of times we think it's all about receiving. Me, me, me, me. I want this, I want that. But when you, when you give, um, something new happens inside of you. There's like a shift, there's a transformation of all kinds of different things. Because now you start to see other people and you become grateful. Um, you start to have love, compassion, sympathy for others because, um, you have been through your own valleys of life. But now you're not there anymore and you see other people that are there and down and you're telling them, there is a way.

• 22:42Speaker 01

  There's a way to not put all that weight on yourself.

• 22:45Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Uh, and, and allow yourself to be free and go out and, and share. When you share your experience, strength and hope, you become better. You know, because somebody on the other side need to hear something that you have to say. Uh, as far as your business and your, your, your struggles or whatever you've been through. Cause everybody will go through struggles, even if you're in business.

• 23:08Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  It's all part of it.

• 23:09Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 23:10Speaker 01

  You, you, you gonna, you gonna have some times where it just, it just fail you. And that's the same thing that I learned so much in baseball. Uh, that's why I incorporate that in, in my life. Uh, because I learned that from playing sports. Uh, the, the challenge is real and the challenge of life is real too at the same time. But you have to do something different and go. You know, go see somebody else. Somebody's homeless, go to a homeless shelter. Go somewhere to a hospital to visit somebody. When you walk out of that place, you gonna, you gonna feel different inside. Uh, you're gonna start really activating what's inside of you more than anything.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  And I think a lot, I think a lot of people don't realize it's, it's more inside of us than we could ever imagine. I, I could never imagine that I would become a public speaker and, and travel 270 times and stand in front of, uh, thousands of people preaching the gospel. I never went to school, you know? That's not what God is looking for. He's looking for a person that makes himself available.

• 24:20Ed Mylett?

  Oh, wow.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  You make yourself available for others, not for yourself. We've, I've, I had already done what I'd done in life. I had already achieved it.

• 24:30Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 24:30Speaker 01

  So there was a new life that he wanted to give me. And it's such a better life. It's such a peaceful life. It's such a real life. It's, it's not pressure. It's, it's very comfortable. Uh, when I first started, I was like, oh man, this is not for me. I'm quitting, just like anything else.

• 24:49Ed Mylett?

  Is he serious?

• 24:49Speaker 01

  Oh, of course. And, and he just kept, God just kept reminding me, it's not about you.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  It's not about you. Every time I say, I'm done with this, I'm done with traveling, I'm always, it's not about you.

• 25:01Ed Mylett?

  Gosh.

• 25:02Speaker 01

  And, and I got it. And when I got to that place, I realized it was about others.

• 25:08Ed Mylett?

  Wow, you, you've developed this ability even since the last time we talked. You say a lot in a few sentences. Like to unpack what you just said, number one, that phrase, I'd not heard that before. You activate a part of yourself. I think everybody ought to reflect on that. Like if you'd like to get to know yourself better and find out more about you, you're gonna do that when you're serving other people. The other thing you said about availability, there's that saying, especially even in sports, the best ability is availability. Right? Making yourself available to people. I want to know the truth, like in, in, shoot straight. Does it feel as good? And don't give me the Pollyanna thing. Like, give me the straw, like the real answer. You hit one off the scoreboard in the postseason.

• 25:50Ed Mylett?

  That feeling in your body, you're running around the bases. 50,000 people are going ballistic. You just dominated that pitcher. That moment in your body, be real here. Or being on stage in front of 300 people at a church that no one's even recording it. And you're giving your testimony and your message. How do those compare to one another?

• 26:15Speaker 01

  Well, let me say, let me say the, the part of the baseball is amazing. Um, running around the bases after crushing a ball off the scoreboard, especially in big games, playoffs and stuff like that. And everybody's going crazy. Um, chills run all through the body. Uh, because you know that you have just made a moment. And it was a fantastic moment and, and you're making a lot of people happy. And that is one of the most incredible feelings that any athlete would, would get when he does something like that. Basketball, football, baseball, hockey. Uh, we all have that same feeling that rush, yeah. You know, I did it. And you like to be in that moment. Great athletes love to be in the big moment.

• 26:59Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 27:00Speaker 01

  And I always loved that.

• 27:03Speaker 01

  But when I stand in a pulpit, it's totally the opposite. Anointing falls upon me and it doesn't belong to me. It's God's gift and I can't really understand it a lot because it's supernatural. Uh, and it, and it just flow. Uh, cause I always prepare and I always prepare. I think I prepare the message that I want to give and the Holy Spirit will lead me and he'll guide me. He'll, he'll speak through me. Um, because the thing about it is the baseball is going to give all these fans a great feeling inside of what I just did. Hit that home run.

• 27:45Speaker 01

  But the spirit is going to come and it's going to affect someone else and touch somebody. And it is the most incredible thing that I've ever experienced in my life because I know it's not me.

• 28:00Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  I was like, I, I don't, I don't have this. You know, I know it's, I know it's coming from the source and, and it's just incredible. Some of the things that actually come out of me and, and I'd be like, man, did I say that? I have to like, no, he'd be like, no, you didn't say it, keep going. Cause I, I, sometime I want to deviate, go the other way and he goes, no, go this way. And, and I, I'm very sensitive to that and I've learned that. Um, it took some time, uh, to be able to realize that the education is, is his. And he knows who's sitting there. He knows what needs to be said at the moment in time. Um, that's very, very different.

• 28:46Ed Mylett?

  I know exactly what you're talking about.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:48Ed Mylett?

  I do. I know exactly. And by the way, for someone listening to this, like I, I get, let me say one thing to what you just said. What you just said is in my own life, the most true thing someone's ever said on the show to me. Because the more I actually get out of, people always ask me when I'm on stage, how does that happen? I'm like, I have no idea.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 29:04Ed Mylett?

  And the more I make it about me, the week, it's almost, the more I make it about me, it's almost like giving me kryptonite. If you're Superman.

• 29:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:11Ed Mylett?

  But when it's not me.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  It's unbelievable.

• 29:13Ed Mylett?

  You almost look like Superman because it's supernatural what's happening through you. And a lot of people listening go, that's great. You're both on stage speaking. This same thing happens in that precious conversation with your daughter at breakfast in the morning. If you get out of the way and be prayerful and be present with her and just love her. Let those words flow through you, the, the horrible problems in your life that you're going through right now, the trials and tribulations. What if it isn't about you? What if there's gonna be a mess out of this mess? There's gonna be a message that you're gonna have someday. Just really reflect on what Darryl just said right there because I've lived that in my life too. That was an honest answer. So this turns out scoreboard is still pretty good.

• 29:49Speaker 01

  Scoreboard is great. Yeah, I think the, I think the whole thing with most people had is they don't get out of the way and they don't listen.

• 29:57Ed Mylett?

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• 31:52Ed Mylett?

  When you say, "Listen," you've said that a few times today. Do you hear something audibly? Like, when you're talking about, a lot of non-believers, or even some believers go, "I don't hear anything." Or, so is it, is it something, is it a, is it think thoughts that just come to you? Is it a feeling, or is it actually audible? You'll hear something?

• 32:09Speaker 01

  No, I mean, it's supernatural, it's the Spirit. You, you listen, you know, you listen to what he's saying. You know, once you know his voice, you know who's, who's speaking. But it's just the same with my voice of my kids. I'm not trying to live their life. I listen to them. I think that's what most parents struggle with. They are a different generation. They're not like us. We were, we didn't have cell phones, we didn't have TikTok, we didn't have this snapshot, or whatever, all these different things. And, and they have that, and you, and you want to try to control them and tell them not to live that. This is what they live in.

• 32:53Speaker 01

  And you have to allow them to go through it and figure it out for themselves. But I always tell my kids, I say, "You see that brick wall? It's not moving."

• 33:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, at some point, you have, you have to learn how to walk around it. If you don't want to feel the pain of it, walking into it all the time. And, and that's all, and I think that's where a lot of parents, "Well, I want to punish him, I want to do this, I want to do that." And all you, all you're creating is, is a monster inside.

• 33:21Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, they're gonna resist you.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, because they're gonna run back out there and they're gonna get a taste of everything, and then they're gonna dive into some things that they shouldn't. I think being a, a father, and, and the husband I am today, and the man of God that I am today, I, I, I just live in action. And I think a lot of times, people don't live in their action of, of what's important. Because when you, because when you live in an action, people are watching you.

• 33:50Ed Mylett?

  That's right.

• 33:51Speaker 01

  And they're gonna always have something to say, like they have towards you, towards me, uh, well, you're this and you're that. But they don't know how you got to where you got.

• 33:59Ed Mylett?

  That's right.

• 34:00Speaker 01

  They don't know all the hard work we put in to get to where we get.

• 34:03Ed Mylett?

  They don't even think that stuff with your kids is caught, not taught. They're watching you, they're not hearing the things you're saying. By the way, and they're watching a lot closer than you think. How do you deal with that? You still catch flack from people? Do you still have haters when you played? And even now, like, I think for a lot of people, literally, the thing that holds them back the most in life, and by the way, that means you're making it about you again, is they're afraid of what people are gonna think. I really believe that that is maybe number one on the list of what holds somebody back from reaching their God-given potential, is their fear of what some other human being is going to think about them. And in your case, you've had literally millions of people form opinions about you at different parts of your life, probably even now still. How do you deal with that?

• 34:45Speaker 01

  I never cared.

• 34:46Ed Mylett?

  Wow, even when you played?

• 34:48Speaker 01

  Even when I played.

• 34:49Ed Mylett?

  And your face just said that's true, by the way.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  I never, I never, I never cared. I mean, I never cared what the fact that media said, what people said. I knew my own ability and what I was capable of doing. And that's all that mattered. And just like I am today, I know the ability, what I'm capable of doing now. And, and I'm not concerned, you know, people say, "Well, oh, well, they turned to Jesus, they turned to..." Well, yeah, probably needed Jesus. Well, one day, you, you gonna need him. One day, you gonna be calling on him when you land up in the hospital and you're sick and you got something going on. Some terminal could be there, coming up on you, and you, you're laying there and you have no idea where you're going.

• 35:31Speaker 01

  What's your message you left behind? See, my mother left a legacy for her children. That's what this is all about, leaving a legacy for my children.

• 35:40Ed Mylett?

  That's why you wrote it?

• 35:41Speaker 01

  I, I wrote it for more of them, for more of them and my wife, and the dedication about people.

• 35:48Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 35:48Speaker 01

  And, and going to places and, and not judging people, going into maximum securities, prisons, and to love on people. And people say, "Well, how could you go in there and they, these guys murdered people and did this?" I don't, I don't know what happened to them when they were a kid.

• 36:04Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 36:05Speaker 01

  Just like you don't know what happened to me. I don't know what happened to you. I just know one thing, that we all fall short of the glory.

• 36:12Ed Mylett?

  Amen.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  And, and it doesn't mean judgment. And those that have judgment, and those that can get on social media and be negative and say negative things, go check your own closet. I bet you got a, a closet full of skeletons. And, and if somebody threw them out there publicly, how would you handle them? You don't know how you would handle them. I mean, we that end up in the places like yourself and me, Ed, we were built for it. I'm built for criticism. I thrive on it when you...

• 36:46Ed Mylett?

  It's on your face when you say it.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  Because that's the way I was when I played. I was thriving when you was negative and boo. I was like, "I, I'm gonna show you."

• 36:56Ed Mylett?

  That dog in you thing, right? Like, what is that? Do you miss that, or do you have it somewhere else? Like, one of the things that, to get to where you got in your sport, you gotta be a dog.

• 37:06Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 37:06Ed Mylett?

  You're right, and you gotta be a competitor.

• 37:08Speaker 01

  You do.

• 37:08Ed Mylett?

  And you, I mean, the level of, when you're around a dude like him, you guys, just so you know, I think I'm a pretty competitive person, but my other, like, high-end, I won't name them, professional athlete buddies of mine, dude, they don't care what you're playing. It could be ping pong, tiddlywinks, spelling bee, they want to beat you.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Right.

• 37:24Ed Mylett?

  They want to be competitive. So I know that is in you, there's no way you were that great if you weren't like, "Okay, you're booing me, I'm gonna hit one of those off the board." Or that dude on the, with the wrong lid on the, on the mound out there, "I'm gonna bury this dude." Do you still have, first off, did you have that? And do you have it now, or did you have to replace it with something else? The competition thing, like, I gotta think that, like...

• 37:44Speaker 01

  I mean, we always will have that because it was built inside of us, because we created that. You have to create that inside of yourself, because if you want to win, and you want to be a winner in life, nobody's gonna give it to you, you're gonna have to take it.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  It's just like, um, a guy hitting me with the ball. I'm going out to get you. I'm gonna, I'm gonna show you with these knuckles too. That's the way I was when I played baseball. It, it was just to make people understand, I'm nothing to play with.

• 38:17Speaker 01

  But, you know, I, I, I will always have that, and, you know, I'm in ministry now, but people say, "Well, where's your security guards?" And people...

• 38:26Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  That you need around you. I says, "I'm not afraid, I, I don't need 10 people around me to protect me, like, I'm not..." Because you know my mother taught me something about life more than anything, that it's not important to be important.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  So I don't act important.

• 38:44Ed Mylett?

  You don't?

• 38:45Speaker 01

  No, I'm just a normal human being that's, that has had great success playing Major League Baseball, and had great failure in the public eyes. And now I've picked myself up, I didn't stay there because of what everybody else had to say. And here I am. I'm a survivor of, of life.

• 39:09Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, you are.

• 39:10Speaker 01

  Just like what all of us are, you have to survive here. There's a purpose and a plan for every last one of us, but we just have to figure it out. What is my purpose? You know, and...

• 39:23Ed Mylett?

  Do you think, by the way, this thing about loving God, because that dog in you is still there? I think sometimes people think if a dude's like, loves Jesus, somehow, like, he's a wimp, or he's weak or something. Because we rely on God doesn't mean in the real world, we don't walk around as men and that we're not strong, or a woman. And I shouldn't even make that gender specific. But like, we're still, we're still men, we're still, we're still strong, we're still fighting for our families. We're not, we're not, you have to plant seeds if you're gonna expect to harvest in your life. And I'm praying for that harvest, but I know I'm supposed to be planting seeds every single day of my life. I have part of this equation as well.

• 39:58Speaker 01

  Yes, I think what, what most people don't know, and most guys don't know, and they think it's weak, is, is, no, I'm free. I'm not in bondage, I'm not chasing after anything.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  Most of the time, you're chasing for affirmation from everybody else. I, I'm not looking for none of that.

• 40:18Ed Mylett?

  It's so freeing, isn't it? Because I did so much in my life as well.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  That's, that's just the way I live. I mean, I wake up every day, there's joy, you know, there's peace, and I'm, I'm free inside. I'm not looking for anything. I'm just looking to do my father's will and love people and care for others. I think that's the most important thing that we all should understand when we have been here and we have seen everything. We realize, I realize that everybody will not have the opportunity that I have had and you have had.

• 41:00Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 41:01Speaker 01

  But they still have the opportunity.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  Okay, they still have the opportunity to plug into that and...

• 41:07Ed Mylett?

  I love that.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  Plug in and put that as a part of their life. Make that the centerpiece of your life, and then everything will work together for the good. I think people don't really realize that. It's there, it's free.

• 41:20Ed Mylett?

  I think you're right. The other thing, there's an interesting, I've never asked anybody this. There's an interesting nuance too, because like, when you rely on God and you surrender your life to God, there's this part of you that you've given your life there, right? So like, I, I cast my problems to Him. Same time though, I know walking around the world, I have to be a confident person, I have to believe in myself, I have to have strength of my preparation and things like that. It's an interesting nuance as a believer, right? And even for people that are listening to the two of us. So I want to ask you about something I watched the other day. I, I was blown away by something. You're on, I don't, I forget the podcast, but basically, someone asked you, "Who's the greatest baseball player you've ever seen?" You said Barry Bonds.

• 42:05Ed Mylett?

  You said, "Not even close. This dude was a freak show, blah, blah, blah." And I'm watching it. I'm watching it. And I'll take your word on that. But is there any part of you, be real, is there any part of you that thinks it's you? And before you answer, the reason I ask that is, I think you have to think in the world, because you are, you do have your Father in heaven has your back and you're with Him. But I also think you have to walk around this life thinking, like what you said, "I'm gonna hit two off the scoreboard. I'm not to be played with." So, one, where are you in there? And what about that balance of self-confidence and belief, yet reliance and surrender to God? This is a hard question. This is a doozy, but I'm curious what you think.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  That's gonna always be there with me, because I always, when I ran out on the field, I was the best player. That's what I told myself.

• 42:48Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  Didn't matter who was on the field. Of course.

• 42:51Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 42:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 42:53Ed Mylett?

  Of course.

• 42:53Speaker 01

  Of course, that's what, that's, that's where, that's why you're there. I'm not underneath anybody. I could do just about anything that everybody else could do. And the reason why I said Barry Bonds was the greatest player that I ever seen and watched, because I watched him when he came up at a young age, and I saw the tools of a guy that could do it all, and he could do it well. And he'll let you know, too. I mean, and a lot of people don't like him, but I've always liked Barry. And I liked the way he played the game. He played it knowing he was good.

• 43:34Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 43:35Speaker 01

  And if you don't play it knowing you're good,

• 43:37Ed Mylett?

  Okay, here we go.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  It's a different story.

• 43:40Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 43:40Speaker 01

  And that was the story for him, that was the story for me, that's the story for many of us that have played the games, and the one that came before us, that set the table for us. So, we had opportunity to be able to prove, not to others, but to prove to ourself. It's a self thing. I think a lot of times, people don't have self-confidence in themselves.

• 44:03Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  And guys like us, we do. We know what we want to do. We know what we want to accomplish. We know how to go get it. And that's the same thing people need to learn about life. When I got my life transformed and became another life, I had to go after it. I couldn't sit, it wasn't gonna come to me. I had to do the work. Okay, God said, "I want you to be disciplined, just like you was in baseball." And I got it. I know how disciplined I was in baseball. I had to train myself. I had to talk to myself. And that was the same thing I had to do when I was crossing over and having this transition of life. I had to talk to myself. I say, "I gotta be this. I gotta be this way." But I'm not perfect.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  But I'm gonna live it according to the way the principles are. And when you do that, and when you do that in baseball, you live according to the way the fundamentals of baseball, you're gonna be successful. When you live according to the principles of God, you're gonna be successful. Nobody can stop it. A lot of people want to stop people because they're not there. You gotta challenge yourself. It's inside of you. Everybody's got that gift inside of them. It's just when you decide to turn that gift on and say, "Okay, I can do this. I could do all things." I don't have, not some things, you know, some people want to do some things, but I always told myself, "Okay, I could do all things." But I never believed the fact that I would be this, who I am today.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  And that is what amazed me more than anything.

• 45:36Ed Mylett?

  What he's done with you in your life.

• 45:37Speaker 01

  What he's done. The education that he's given me through his word is far greater than I can ever imagine or think.

• 45:44Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, I'm really proud of you.

• 45:46Speaker 01

  Thank you, brother. You too. I'm proud of you, too.

• 45:48Ed Mylett?

  Thank you. Thank you. I really, I, what he's done in your life is really remarkable.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  It's incredible.

• 45:54Ed Mylett?

  And what I've seen come out of you is this, like, real anointing. Like, look, how tall are you?

• 46:01Speaker 01

  6'5".

• 46:01Ed Mylett?

  6'5", okay. So, like, God helped you out in the very beginning. You're 6'5". You're fast, you're strong, you had a cannon arm. You had certain tools to play that game, and then you worked your tail off. Because there's a bunch of other dudes that have those tools that don't make it, right? So, you worked your tail off to become one of the greats of all time. And that was sort of an apparent gift. But what's really remarkable with me watching you, because I've watched interviews of you when you played. I would not say that when you played and I watched you get interviewed, that you had this gift of articulation or verbal, almost like music, the way that you could speak.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  Right.

• 46:35Ed Mylett?

  Then when you started to serve God and serve other people, this new thing was like revealed to you through doing it. Does it some, are you sometimes up there going, "Whoa," like?

• 46:44Speaker 01

  Boy, he gives you a new gift. Okay? You can articulate the things that we're doing, playing baseball, sports, this and that. But the gift that he gives you is his anointing. And he allows you to speak a different language. He educates you in a totally different way when you submit yourself to Him, for real. You can't straddle the fence and think, "Well, I can say these things and it works." And it doesn't have the anointing. The anointing is what works. When you are walking truly with Him and understand His principles. I understand it more today than I ever have. It does not belong to me.

• 47:27Speaker 01

  And a lot of people have the gift and the platform, but they utilize it for themselves. I don't utilize the gift for myself. I utilize it for the kingdom to make a difference. Because I don't want God to say, "I gave it to you and you made it clearly about you." You want it to sound good, you want it to look good, you want to dress up and make people say, "Oh, wow, he's special." There's nothing special about me. There's nothing special about none of us. But at the end of the day, we're just a vessel that He takes and He pours His Spirit into, and He goes here.

• 48:01Ed Mylett?

  I love that.

• 48:02Speaker 01

  Go help people.

• 48:03Ed Mylett?

  It's really interesting. I have this theory. Tell me what you think about this. I think God sows into each of us two or three really special gifts that are ours, that are a piece of Him in us. And when you look at the person, when you see them with it, you see Christ in them. So, but those gifts are different. Yours could be your verbal anointing, right? Or, but for other people, they don't, they don't realize they have this gift. It might be their gift of discernment. It might be their gift of resiliency, or humor, or beauty, or nurturing ability, or kindness, or their ability to listen. They think, "Well, that's not a gift," because a gift is being 6'5" and hitting home right off the scoreboard. But seriously, or it's LeBron, he can windmill dunk, or it's Beyonce, how she sings and looks. I don't have gifts. Your gifts are equally powerful. They're just unique to you.

• 48:47Ed Mylett?

  But what's interesting about life, it's like, how do they get revealed? I've found they get revealed usually through two paths. One is when we go through pain.

• 48:56Speaker 01

  Right.

• 48:56Ed Mylett?

  You go through a painful time, and on the other side of that pain, because it's temporary, you do get a revelation of a new gift or a new understanding of yourself you didn't have before. Or the other one is service of, in our world, of God's kingdom. But everyone has those gifts, but they're revealed through those two things. You think I'm...

• 49:13Speaker 01

  You're totally right. You know, I think people don't recognize that. You know, pain is part of life. And you don't stay there. You don't dwell in it. You pick yourself up, and then God's gonna reveal to you a happy side.

• 49:31Ed Mylett?

  I agree.

• 49:32Speaker 01

  More than anything. I think people, people stay there and, "Poor me, poor me, poor me."

• 49:39Speaker 01

  Well, nothing can work through you if you feel like that. This body is, you know, just an operation system that's for more to come out of, you know? And I always tell people, my pain of who I was led me to my greatness of playing baseball.

• 49:59Speaker 01

  But my greatness led me to the destructive behavior. It's two parts of that. Okay? And then there's the other part, okay, where you become like a new creature. You are created in a new place, and you develop all these other gifts that are inside of you. People don't let those other gifts come because they don't trust the process. And they won't discipline themselves. You gotta discipline yourself in everything that you're gonna do if it's gonna work. I mean, if you want to stay at one place and you want to get out of here,

• 50:39Speaker 01

  just being a baseball player or singer, or get out of here, you're missing the whole point of this life. It's more to it than just that.

• 50:49Ed Mylett?

  How the heck is this better than the last time we did this? Like, this is, this is actually better than the last time. And I'm telling you, that was one of my favorite shows ever, but you're spitting some depth of wisdom now. You're at a different level now, Darryl. You are at a different level now. Like, this is tremendous what you're saying. Okay, I just want to acknowledge you on that.

• 51:09Speaker 01

  Well, thank you.

• 51:09Ed Mylett?

  Because I'm sitting here going, sometimes it happens to me when I'm doing the show, I'm like, "Shoot, this is good." You know, and that's not always the case when you're doing the interview, like, just getting out of your way today. All right, I got, I'm allowed two more questions, because I got to go speak.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 51:22Ed Mylett?

  You're gonna be speaking later. One is only for me and Red Sox fans. And then the other one will be a deep, profound question. We're gonna end with a banger that everybody needs to wait for. But I gotta ask you this. '86, I want to talk a lot about this, because I'll start crying. Okay?

• 51:38Speaker 01

  I know.

• 51:39Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, I don't, okay. He's showing the ring, you guys. Congratulations to you.

• 51:44Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 51:47Ed Mylett?

  But did you, you, you didn't really think you were coming back in that game? Like, you know the game I'm talking about, when

• 51:55Speaker 01

  Game six.

• 51:56Ed Mylett?

  Mookie hits it under Buckner's legs. Were you in the dugout going into that inning going, "We're done"? I just need to know what was actually happening in the Mets dugout. If you guys all don't know this...

• 52:07Ed Mylett?

  I think arguably the greatest comeback in the history of baseball happened in the ninth inning, a game six, 1986. My pre- I literally cried on the floor of my house, just so you know, because of you and these fools you were playing with. But when you go back into the ninth inning, you're down, this thing's over. Did you think it was over for real? I heard there were guys in your locker room drinking beer during that inning, thinking this thing was over. Is there any truth to that?

• 52:30Speaker 01

  There was only one guy, that was probably Keith.

• 52:32Ed Mylett?

  Keith, he wasn't there drinking a beer.

• 52:33Speaker 01

  And I was in Davey, Davey Johnson's office, winning too, because I was pissed off because I had got double switch in the game, so. Had a little chip on my shoulder, I wanted to be out there and if we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose. I want to be a part of it. If we're gonna win, I want to be a part of it. But what people fail to realize about the 86 match is, we came back 40 times that year behind to win games.

• 52:58Ed Mylett?

  4-0?

• 52:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:00Ed Mylett?

  Okay, that's a lot.

• 53:00Speaker 01

  So, we knew how, after the seventh inning or something like that, we used to know how to come back. And I think that's what people fail to realize about those guys that were coming to the plate. They were determined. They been, we had been in this place before many times. Yeah, a couple of us thought, man, we blew this, because we were so good.

• 53:21Ed Mylett?

  They were the best, you were the best team in baseball.

• 53:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, and we, we beat the Astros, we got through them, and that was a tough series, and we just thought, man, we blew this, we blew the series. And Carter wasn't gonna, he didn't want to make the last out. Mitchell came up, he didn't want to make the last out. Ray Knight came up, he didn't want to make the last out. I mean, they'd never give those guys credit for not making that last out.

• 53:45Ed Mylett?

  True.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  You know, Calvin, Serati, and Stanley didn't get anybody out. And then, they want to blame the one play on Billy Buckner, who was a great player.

• 53:56Ed Mylett?

  Great player.

• 53:57Speaker 01

  You know, and they, they crucified him in Boston, and, I mean, he had to move out from what,

• 54:03Ed Mylett?

  I know.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  You know, what the understanding of, about the situation, and, and what a great player, almost had 3,000 hits, he was a great player in his career. I mean, I, I would want to be on the field too, for the first time, to be able to feel what it's like to jump up and, and win a championship, because every player, that's every player's dream, when he's young and grow up and see that. And, and there it was, him trying to beat Mookie to the back, and he looked up, and he, he didn't see Stanley there, I believe.

• 54:34Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 54:35Speaker 01

  Because if he, I think if he, because he got a late, he got a late run off to get there, he had to be there.

• 54:42Ed Mylett?

  You're right, by the way.

• 54:43Speaker 01

  Because for him to keep his eye on the ball, and he's looking and seeing if his pitcher's over there, so he can flip it to him, and he wasn't, he wasn't there yet, and that's.

• 54:53Ed Mylett?

  Stanley was, no offense to Stanley, but that was a big, slow dude, he was not there at a normal speed, and Buckner was also injured.

• 54:59Speaker 01

  Right, he, he had, he had injuries and everything, but I'm, I think that's when he took his eye off the ball, because he was looking, where's my pitcher? You know, and, and before you know it, ball rolls through his legs, and there you go.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  But they had us in game seven too.

• 55:12Ed Mylett?

  I know, that's, well, that, I won't, I don't want to be inside baseball too much, but, but the next night,

• 55:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:18Ed Mylett?

  you guys are down again.

• 55:20Speaker 01

  Came back.

• 55:20Ed Mylett?

  But did you, you're, this is just a life lesson too, I'm asking as a Red Sox fan, but like, it truly isn't over until it's over. And I think a lot of people watching this, they think it's over, like they've booted the ball in life, seriously. And they think it's game over, and it's not.

• 55:35Speaker 01

  It's not, you know, this is what people, baseball is just like the game of life.

• 55:40Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 55:41Speaker 01

  It's not over till it's over. And if you sit on it and say, well, it's over and we want it, then, and you say, well, it's over in my life, it's, it's not over.

• 55:50Ed Mylett?

  If you think it is, it is.

• 55:51Speaker 01

  If you think it is, it's over. But if you don't think it's over, bro, you get another life, man, and, and you become even more incredible than you can ever imagine.

• 56:01Ed Mylett?

  Well, that's my last question. This is the banger of the interview, I'm waiting to the end to ask it. Someone's watching, they're like, I want another life. I want a different life. And if I could run into Darryl Strawberry, you and I ran into each other down to that coffee shop earlier, right? Let's say that wasn't me, and they said, hey, I heard you on the Ed and My Let's show, and, uh, I'm getting your book, I ordered your book, but I haven't got it yet, so I'm curious. I want another life, I want a different life, I'm not happy in my life right now, I want another one. What would you say to them?

• 56:27Speaker 01

  I would encourage them, you know, take new steps. You tried everything else, it didn't work. Just like me, I tried everything out there, and it didn't work. And I tried a different way of life. I tried to, um, do it on my own, and I wasn't strong enough to do it on my own. And I asked God for his help for real. And I stopped playing God in my life. Because see, a lot of us want to play that, we want to control, like you talked about ego, a lot of us got these big egos, and that's a three-letter word, easing God out. I'll do it myself. Well, God goes, go ahead. I was like that too. Go ahead, just drive it off the cliff.

• 57:08Speaker 01

  Because that's where you're gonna drive it, and you're gonna end up in a ditch somewhere, and you're not able to get out. And, and you have to be able to trust that process. It, it's not an overnight miracle that happens in people's lives. I think people think this, this should happen overnight, you didn't get in this mess overnight. So, it's gonna take some time to walk through, and, and trust other people that have experienced it, that have wisdom and knowledge in these areas. I'm not trying to force anything on you, but I'm trying to tell you, this is where his love is for you. He's got something for you. Go get it, get up.

• 57:50Ed Mylett?

  Dude, what happens when, do you do this all the time, or is this like something that happens to you? This was a great conversation today.

• 57:57Speaker 01

  Well, thank you, you make it easy, so.

• 57:59Ed Mylett?

  Oh, I don't know about that.

• 57:59Speaker 01

  You put it out there for me.

• 58:01Ed Mylett?

  Brother, this was a great conversation, like, Max, I know this thing's not supposed to come out for a while, my son's the producer, I'm like, this needs to get out quick. This was, both our sons are here today, isn't this?

• 58:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, that's cool, that's what it's all about.

• 58:11Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, thank you.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  Thank you, brother.

• 58:13Ed Mylett?

  This was outstanding, I'm proud of you and I love you.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  I appreciate it, I love you too, brother, always, you know that.

• 58:18Ed Mylett?

  Stay alive.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, you too, you try to, you know.

• 58:21Ed Mylett?

  I'm working on it. Alright, everybody, his book is Another Life, that's Darryl Strawberry, I don't need to ask you to share this one, just go do it. God bless you, max out your life.