From Selling Hot Dogs to Hypercars

Nat is a serial entrepreneur. He went to school with Farah and then ran a series of hot dog carts before opening GPNY, a premiere indoor karting business in NY. He then started HK to sell race cars at Monticello Motor Club but now sells the cool and weird in his own store. The Kimera, the Fifteen Eleven, Gunther Werks. If you want something from these famous boutique builders, Nat is your guy. Recorded July 16, 2026 https://www.hkmotorcars.com/ Tickets to our LIVE show at the Irvine Improv are going quick! https://improv.com/irvine/event/the+smoking+tire+live+feat.+smith+and+sniff+with+matt+farah%2C+zack+klapman%2C+richard+porter%2C+and+jonny+smith/14213624/ Show Notes Factor Head to https://Factormeals.com/tire50off and use code tire50off to get 50 percent off and free daily greens per box, with new subscription only, while supplies last until 09/27/2026. (See website for more details). Quince Make your summer wardrobe easier. Go to https://Quince.com/tire for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. Avants https://avants.com/tst use code TST for 10% off your membership! Use Off The Record! and ALWAYS fight your tickets! For a 10% discount on your first case go to https://www.offtherecord.com/TST Want your question answered? Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast Instagram: https://www. Instagram.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Instagram.com/therealzackklapman Enter to WIN our AMAZING 2025 Porsche 911 Turbo S!! https://www.dreamgiveaway.com/tickets/porsche?promo=SMOKINGTIRE Promo Code Offer: Get 4X bonus tickets with any donation of $25 or more. With every donation you are helping benefit some wonderful veterans' and children's charities. Podcast Promo Code: SMOKINGTIRE

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

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• 1:52Matt Farah?

  Alright, folks, today we're in Bedford Hills, New York, at my old pal Nat Mundy's shop, HK Motor Cars. This guy is a dealer of all the weird stuff. I'm talking Gunther Works, I'm talking Chimera, I'm talking about all those strange brands where you see me drive them and you go, "Where do people even buy those cars?" The answer is from Nat Mundy at HK Motor Cars, and he also knows a thing or two about a hot dog. It's the Smoke and Tire Podcast, let's go. Mini podcast. It was supposed to be a full fucking podcast, but guess what? Car didn't cooperate.

• 2:32Speaker 01

  Not, it doesn't always work out.

• 2:33Matt Farah?

  Sometimes the car doesn't cooperate, so me and Nat, we'll just reminisce for a little bit, but not as long as we were gonna, is what I'm saying, you know? I'm very sweaty today. That was a sweaty afternoon with the Chimera and the 1511 914. Alright, this is radio. So I've known this fucking guy for 21 years now, right?

• 3:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:01Matt Farah?

  21 years, '05?

• 3:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:03Matt Farah?

  And we met over some car thing, and you had just opened Grand Prix New York.

• 3:10Speaker 01

  We were raising money for it still.

• 3:12Matt Farah?

  Had you not actually opened yet?

• 3:13Speaker 01

  I was out of construction.

• 3:14Matt Farah?

  Okay, alright, so it was before, we met before it actually opened. Oh yeah, I remember, because we got to check it out a little bit before it opened, right?

• 3:20Speaker 01

  And I had played hockey with Larry.

• 3:21Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 3:22Speaker 01

  You were a man, New York Motor Club.

• 3:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah, okay, I actually hadn't thought that far back about it for a while.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:29Matt Farah?

  And then, when you opened, you wanted to make a television commercial.

• 3:33Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 3:33Matt Farah?

  A local cable, and you hired me and Tom Morningstar to make your commercial, and instead of paying with money, you paid us with free lifetime unlimited go-karting.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's, you won on that one.

• 3:47Matt Farah?

  Someone asked if you ever calculated the money. I gratuitously took advantage of.

• 3:51Speaker 01

  There was never a reason to, because you always brought other people with you?

• 3:55Matt Farah?

  I did, I brought paying people.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  You were a good freebie to have. I threw a lot of, like, definitely small bar mitzvahs for some people that just showed up with 20 kids on a Saturday. You never did that.

• 4:07Matt Farah?

  No, no, we never did that. I didn't, I don't say I abused it, but I went karting every day.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:13Matt Farah?

  For like, a year and a half.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 4:15Matt Farah?

  And I won the men's league, which was pretty fun.

• 4:18Speaker 01

  And you had great commercials for us.

• 4:19Matt Farah?

  I made a commercial, that you used for a while.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  We did, probably five years on cable TV. And the better part about that is-

• 4:25Matt Farah?

  Do you want to build a winning team?

• 4:27Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 4:28Matt Farah?

  It was the team building commercial.

• 4:29Speaker 01

  It was a team building one. But the coolest part about that was, that segued into you doing the 24-hour go-kart race.

• 4:35Matt Farah?

  Oh, yes, we did do the 24-hour go-kart race, which was very fun.

• 4:39Speaker 01

  And we had to wet the track down to save tires. So, Zach, to make tires last 24 hours of non-stop use, we had to basically dump water on the track to make it slippery. So I was armed-

• 4:51Matt Farah?

  Made it really hard.

• 4:52Speaker 01

  So I had the hose at the top of the, uh, top of the bridge, go over the track, just giving people the fire hose, and then the buckets of five-gallon buckets of water that you just nail people with.

• 5:02Matt Farah?

  It was like, it's like the Nürburgring, where half the track is dry and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere. That's pretty cool, that's probably really fun. It was, it was very challenging. And this was like, this was really the first of its kind of the sort of luxury indoor go-kart track.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  That's correct. And we had F1 Boston, was sort of the first in America, and we just basically copied that but added a little bit more sort of a higher-end vibe.

• 5:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the bar.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  The bar, Chilean sea bass, steak freedom.

• 5:30Matt Farah?

  I ate at the restaurant a lot, the restaurant was really good.

• 5:32Speaker 01

  It was actually really good.

• 5:33Matt Farah?

  It was, the restaurant, what was it called?

• 5:35Speaker 01

  It was called Fuel.

• 5:36Matt Farah?

  Oh, yes, of course. The restaurant, restaurant was good. But, I always thought that you were really interesting because of the hot dog carts.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, hot dog heaven.

• 5:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, like Nat is like, is a very traditional entrepreneur of just start small and roll it in, and start small and roll it in. I mean, that's how you kind of started HK.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:01Matt Farah?

  And before that, like, the hot dog carts. So like, tell us the story of the hot dog carts.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  Well, with Grand Prix New York, we were at Lime Rock 30 days a year, right? So, 30 days a year, just promoting for Grand Prix New York at Lime Rock, at all the five major weekends they'd have there. So, I bought, Shea Stadium was being torn down, they were building Citi Field, and they put all of the hot dog carts up for public auction to sell. But you couldn't just buy one, you had to buy 100.

• 6:34Matt Farah?

  Was it 100?

• 6:35Speaker 01

  It was over 100.

• 6:35Matt Farah?

  Whoa.

• 6:36Speaker 01

  And I got there, and they were all sitting in various piles, and some were great, some were, you know, used, some were whatever. Ended up selling the really good ones on eBay, because you want a piece of Shea Stadium, this is your chance.

• 6:49Matt Farah?

  Sure, yeah.

• 6:50Speaker 01

  And then, I scrapped-

• 6:51Matt Farah?

  We have Yankee Stadium seats.

• 6:53Speaker 01

  Seats, yeah, that was a common thing.

• 6:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:55Speaker 01

  So then I scrapped the junk stuff, because whatever scrap is scrap, and then I kept 10, and I operated them at racetracks and various things, along with my bouncy castle and portable go-kart setup. I went full Carney-

• 7:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  For about seven years.

• 7:09Matt Farah?

  Wow. He like, he looks Greenwich, but, and he's got nice cars now, but like, back then, he, he dressed Greenwich, and he looked like this, just less facial hair, but he was the trashiest person. Like, he would drive, he would drive like, weird engine-swapped Land Rovers, he'd be hustling Carney rides, like, the weird, he was always doing the weirdest hustles.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  Well, it was desperate times, right? We opened up a $12 million go-kart track in 2007, and then boom, the economy goes, "We didn't want to do that."

• 7:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  And every corporate event puckered up and said, "We can't actually, we're not allowed to do our corporate events anymore." And so we had to really change the model and do like, mitzvahs and sweet 16s, and became family entertainment as well. But you're not wrong, like, yeah, I still, I still have that Range Rover, and it runs on, it runs on fry oil, or, and then, yeah, the one in the back warehouse here has got a Corvette Callaway engine in it.

• 8:11Matt Farah?

  Cool.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  Because, as you do.

• 8:13Matt Farah?

  Because one does.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:15Matt Farah?

  So- Is it like, forced induction, or it's like-

• 8:17Speaker 01

  It's one of two that, uh, no, it's not forced induction, it's one of two Callaway maids, a Vet Ranger, and I have the road and track article with it.

• 8:24Matt Farah?

  Vet Ranger?

• 8:25Speaker 01

  And that was owned by another car dealer in, um, in Greenwich.

• 8:29Matt Farah?

  So that engine was installed new?

• 8:31Speaker 01

  By Callaway.

• 8:32Matt Farah?

  Wow.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  And it was, uh, it was one of two built, it was then purchased by Mark Starr.

• 8:37Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, RIP, Mark Starr.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, RIP, who sold it to me, um, when I was like, I don't know, 22 years old. So I've always loved that, nothing normal about cars you drive.

• 8:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, super stupid.

• 8:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but, uh, so, but I always was like, hot dog carts, like, that was just such a strange hustle.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Dude, I was the king of go-karts and tube meat. And, and I have to say that like, hot dogs, it was 35 cents your cost-

• 9:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  Per dog, and you could sell them for like, three, four bucks. It added up pretty quick.

• 9:09Matt Farah?

  Yep.

• 9:09Speaker 01

  And it was a great, a great couple summers doing that. And then, the best part is the exit strategy on that one was Lime Rock bought all the equipment from us.

• 9:16Matt Farah?

  Oh, really?

• 9:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were like, "Well, we like what you're doing, can we buy it?"

• 9:19Matt Farah?

  Wow, so all at once, one customer, fantastic.

• 9:23Speaker 01

  Still get a Monday dog, dirty, a dirty Monday dog.

• 9:26Matt Farah?

  Up at Lime Rock.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  Up at Lime Rock. And they've really fixed up, I mean, Lime Rock's crushing it now, by the way. You haven't been up there in a while yet.

• 9:33Matt Farah?

  I was up there like, maybe three years ago?

• 9:34Speaker 01

  Dicky Regal, who runs it now, has got rosé all day as the theme. It's, it's well-done hospitality.

• 9:39Matt Farah?

  Like, for real?

• 9:40Speaker 01

  Yes, they've got good drinks, they've got Lime Rock Lemonade, which is basically yuck, I mean, they've really done a great job.

• 9:45Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  My, uh, my product line wouldn't fit in today's Lime Rocks.

• 9:51Matt Farah?

  We're going back, we're going, uh, the road and track experiences, the, uh, the Hudson 400, Hudson Quattrocento.

• 9:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:58Matt Farah?

  Lime Rock is the, the track we use.

• 10:00Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 10:00Matt Farah?

  Any listeners, you want to come drive with me? Dude, you know what, maybe-

• 10:06Matt Farah?

  Maybe I'll ask you to come out to Lime Rock with like the 037 for a day and we can give people a couple of thrill rides.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:15Matt Farah?

  That would be a good time.

• 10:16Speaker 01

  I'd love that.

• 10:17Matt Farah?

  You could drive, I could drive, we could have a fucking a pro, whatever you want to do.

• 10:21Speaker 01

  And depending on what time of year and when it is, I mean.

• 10:22Matt Farah?

  October, end of October.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  We'll have some other really great stuff by then, too.

• 10:25Matt Farah?

  Alright, cool. So, yeah, I mean, when you, uh, when I've, when you were like, hey, after, after, um, you know, when I moved to LA, uh, and you, you wisely, I think, converted half of the go-kart track into a bowling alley because you can serve booze to people while they bowl.

• 10:42Speaker 01

  Food and beverage.

• 10:43Matt Farah?

  And you can't serve booze to people while they're go-karting. At least you shouldn't.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  The arcade was the real savior, though.

• 10:48Matt Farah?

  Was it the arcade?

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  Really?

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• 15:24Speaker 01

  That one game Big Bass Wheel, like $15,000 game, does $15,000 a week.

• 15:30Matt Farah?

  No way.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  It just prints tickets.

• 15:32Matt Farah?

  No way.

• 15:33Speaker 01

  So your cost of goods sold on an arcade is like 16 cents.

• 15:37Matt Farah?

  That is crazy.

• 15:38Speaker 01

  And it's very expensive capex up front, electricity, etc.

• 15:41Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 15:42Speaker 01

  But they're just PCs with flat screens now.

• 15:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. It's just a wood cabinet with fucking nothing.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  I'm so glad I'm not in that business anymore.

• 15:48Matt Farah?

  Well, now everyone's got a phone that has like so many games on it, right? I bet you, I bet you a full arcade game could run on an Android phone. Oh, definitely.

• 15:55Speaker 01

  It's probably about the same processing power. Just prints tickets. But that's, that's a great, in October 2019, I was bought out of all those locations.

• 16:03Matt Farah?

  Ironically, you could hit a fucking, I could hit a five iron into the front door.

• 16:09Speaker 01

  We are in the complex still.

• 16:10Matt Farah?

  From there right now. It's directly across the street. This, by the way, this, this parking lot, Zach, is where I hucked the, the accessory drive belt off the vanquish trying to do a donut. Got it, this is where it happened. Yeah.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  We did a, we did a charity car show, and Matt Farah shows up and blows the belt off the car.

• 16:29Matt Farah?

  And I, and I, I thought I had done some terrible thing, and then until someone sent me Vicky Butler Henderson's review from Fifth Gear. Where she does the same thing. And I, I, that was how, that was my intro to Vicky. I was like, "Vicky, thank you for approving, I wasn't, I did some shit back."

• 16:43Speaker 01

  She replicated it, yeah, it was all good.

• 16:46Matt Farah?

  Um, but, and then you were like, "Dude, I'm gonna go up to Monticello to sell race cars."

• 16:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, we would, I went up there, consulted for them for nine years, was an executive for three of them. Um, it was great. Uh, wonderful track, one of my favorite complexes.

• 17:00Matt Farah?

  Still one of my favorites.

• 17:01Speaker 01

  Uh, and it just happens to be two hours away from home.

• 17:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  So.

• 17:06Matt Farah?

  That was, were there any open private track clubs that were built for that? Maybe Autobahn, Autobahn in Illinois.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  And Spring Mountain was being built at the time.

• 17:14Matt Farah?

  And Spring Mountain.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  Cause the Radical Program was between Monticello and there.

• 17:18Matt Farah?

  I think Spring Mountain might be my favorite racetrack country club that I've seen.

• 17:24Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 17:25Matt Farah?

  Well, it's got the most track.

• 17:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, the most tarmac out of all of them.

• 17:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  And configurations, etc.

• 17:30Matt Farah?

  And a year-round season.

• 17:31Speaker 01

  And Ari from Monticello is building P1 down in, in Port St. Lucie.

• 17:35Matt Farah?

  I've heard good things.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  So that's gonna be another.

• 17:37Matt Farah?

  But I don't want to have to go to Florida. Sorry, Ari.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, maybe not, but.

• 17:40Matt Farah?

  Same. Aaron Weiss at Concourse has always been very nice to me.

• 17:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 17:44Matt Farah?

  I would love it, but Florida.

• 17:45Speaker 01

  We've got a.

• 17:46Matt Farah?

  It's just very sticky.

• 17:47Speaker 01

  We, we've, we've spent a lot of time at Concourse Club. We've got a, um, our, our Miami location is there, is housed at one of their lots.

• 17:55Matt Farah?

  I mean, as one does.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. But Monticello was a really fun stint. I mean, I, I lived on, in lake houses with instructors, relived my college years for another 10, kind of postponed reality, um, and just realized that I couldn't work seven days a week anymore.

• 18:11Matt Farah?

  Well, it's easy, it's, how easy is it to fall into that trap when your job is like kind of fun and, and, and a good portion of your job is just like hanging out and bullshitting with guys around the racetrack?

• 18:25Speaker 01

  It's very true, but you know, it's like, places like that breed a lot of like-minded people. You meet, you meet some people that you really enjoy, and those relationships tend to be around cars. There's no politics at Monticello, like, outside of the politics that are involved at the track itself, but like, you know, you, you, you talk about cars. You talk about like my, my people's kids and how they're doing, oh, they racing and whatever. And I built the go-kart facility for them, the off-road program, and I even bought them a tank. Yeah, I chieftain and then an APC 432.

• 18:58Matt Farah?

  Does it work?

• 18:59Speaker 01

  It does.

• 18:59Matt Farah?

  What do you do with it?

• 19:00Speaker 01

  Drive over cars.

• 19:02Matt Farah?

  Oh, nice.

• 19:02Speaker 01

  As, what else do you?

• 19:03Speaker 02

  Right, it's that carnival ride.

• 19:05Matt Farah?

  I did that in Minnesota. No, Minnesota. It was like, I think it was called drive a tank.com or something.

• 19:12Speaker 01

  But then with Chris Duplessis, we built the rally program and some other stuff and, and Chris is now at P1. And I think we all kind of stayed in that game, but what, what I realized from it was, you know, the portfolio of, a resume of people that I met who are all active car people and collectors. It was a great segue into the dealership side of things.

• 19:30Matt Farah?

  Well, if you're hang, if you're there and hanging out, they're asking you where to buy cars and where to sell cars. So you're, you're, you're, you have to be that guy. You, you might as well make a living off it.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  And I, I, I obviously liked being at a racetrack all the time. I can tell you right now that I don't miss the commute. I mean, it was two hours each way.

• 19:49Matt Farah?

  That sucks.

• 19:50Speaker 01

  There was no if ands.

• 19:51Matt Farah?

  Is that how you ended up with 240,000 miles on a F80? Or what is it, an F30? Whatever that's?

• 19:56Speaker 01

  So I just, because I destroyed the 2004 S4 in about a year.

• 20:00Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 20:01Speaker 01

  Uh, that car cost me $47,000 to drive 147,000 miles.

• 20:07Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 20:08Speaker 01

  In out of warranty service. That little diesel BMW has cost around 7,000.

• 20:13Matt Farah?

  That's.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  In, in, in consumables.

• 20:16Matt Farah?

  If you're racking up miles, that is the car.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, for sure. And it's got great, better headlights, better, better wipers, all the things that you get with a BMW. Exists on that three series.

• 20:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:27Speaker 01

  You know, it's not just some.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  No, it's, those are really good cars.

• 20:30Speaker 01

  Well, I like them so much that I own a couple now.

• 20:32Matt Farah?

  Oh, do you?

• 20:33Speaker 01

  I've been buying low miles ones. Yeah, I've got a couple in the warehouse back there. Um, I get low miles. That one matches my BMW motorcycle. So it's like.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  That's pretty funny. You're gonna flip them eventually in 30 years when diesel gets cheap again?

• 20:44Speaker 01

  Honestly, I think we'll just continue to put them in places we need them as shop cars. Like that thing when we get retired to Florida, we'll leave it down there as like the get around.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  It's a good run around car.

• 20:53Matt Farah?

  The wide open throttle guys have the gas powered, like 328Is and they use them as track trainers.

• 21:00Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 21:01Matt Farah?

  And they don't do anything to them. They just change the oil and like they're fine. And they just, they run them for eight hours a day and fucking.

• 21:08Speaker 01

  I think, I mean, remember the TDI cup when Volkswagen did that? I wanted to be in that so bad, but I was like 10 years older than like the, the entry had to be. You had to be 22.

• 21:17Speaker 02

  Put one of these in lemons. You're ready.

• 21:18Speaker 01

  It would've been great.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, you could still do it.

• 21:20Matt Farah?

  You could probably, yeah, you could, you could definitely turn your old one into an endurance race car.

• 21:26Speaker 01

  A wagon race car?

• 21:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, like Volvo.

• 21:29Speaker 02

  BMW just did that at the Nürburgring with the crazy, uh, the M3 Tour.

• 21:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 21:33Speaker 01

  What about converting one, converting that one with the high miles into like the pickup truck that you've seen with the M3?

• 21:37Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah. The one that they did at the factory.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  That would work. I think the factory one's a two, a coupe, but you could still do it. It's a crew cab. There you go.

• 21:45Speaker 01

  Be kind of cool.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, it would be cool. Diamond plate.

• 21:48Matt Farah?

  You could also just, you know, race car it.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  I'm kind of driving into the ground, Matt.

• 21:53Matt Farah?

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• 23:55Speaker 01

  And even when the suspension finally went though, they, they were like, well, what do you want to replace it with? This is your chance to put in like Bilstein's, like a stock OEM. Whatever did the 230,000 miles.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  That's a good point.

• 24:08Speaker 01

  I want you to put right back in that thing. And they were like, okay.

• 24:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I bet it felt nice.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  It, it's, you should drive it. It's glorious.

• 24:14Matt Farah?

  I've driven them before, but I bet it felt nice when it got new shots.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  Good long distance choice. If I was doing like lots of miles, like when Vinnie Russo had one of those, you know, if you're doing a bunch of miles, it's a good car.

• 24:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. No, it's a rock star of a car, but.

• 24:27Matt Farah?

  Vinnie got rear ended at like 50 miles an hour. That's why he didn't have any more.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 24:31Matt Farah?

  The cargo box survives though.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Went flying over.

• 24:35Matt Farah?

  Huh?

• 24:36Speaker 02

  Like, because it flew off the car?

• 24:37Matt Farah?

  It flew off the car and now it's on his truck.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Which definitely needed to be taller. Um, so did you start HK at Monticello and like?

• 24:46Speaker 01

  So HK was kind of like a 2019 sort of COVID boredom thing, like a lot of those things. And a lot of, a lot of stuff we sell also came out of COVID too. Um, you know, these products sort of, these brands came up during COVID, people sitting around. Um, 2019, did a Connecticut dealer's license. We were working with Glickenhouse. Uh, we had bought a couple of cars and we had commissioned their 709 LeMans car. So we actually commissioned and owned that car throughout the program.

• 25:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay. I didn't realize that.

• 25:16Speaker 01

  So the car that came in third, the podium winning car is ours.

• 25:19Matt Farah?

  You still have it?

• 25:20Speaker 01

  We do. Uh, we rode in track, rented Cota for us a couple of years ago to play with it.

• 25:24Matt Farah?

  Oh, cool.

• 25:25Speaker 01

  And had an absolute ball. Uh, really, really neat. And then from there, just picked up some other brands that were all sort of, a lot of it's resto mod based like you guys experienced today.

• 25:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I mean, it's, and I, and I, we've got about 20 minutes before we have this hard out, but I, and I do want to talk about the two cars that we drove today. But like you were, you, you called me and you were like, hey, man, I'm going to get into road cars. Cause you were doing, you were just probably doing race cars in the beginning and being at the track, which made sense. And I was like, okay. And you're like, I'm going to do all the brands that nobody else will sell.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  That no one will touch.

• 25:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah. You're like, I was like, okay, well, someone, that sounds like a good idea. Yeah. And it actually was. So what is the portfolio of Glickenhouse?

• 26:06Speaker 01

  Glickenhouse.

• 26:07Matt Farah?

  Gunther Werks.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  Gunther Werks, Chimera, Nardone.

• 26:10Matt Farah?

  What's Nardone?

• 26:11Speaker 01

  The 928 resto mod.

• 26:12Matt Farah?

  Oh, the 928 thing. Right. Yeah. The soap bar looking kind of deal.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  So I get mine delivered at Monterey this year.

• 26:18Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Really excited for that car. If you remember those came with five liter V8s that were slow. They actually made it fast.

• 26:26Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 26:26Speaker 01

  Like it's a real car. Really excited about that one. Uh, we have, um, Centrica.

• 26:32Matt Farah?

  That's the Diablo's.

• 26:34Speaker 01

  Yep. Driven, which is the, which is the, which is the Evoludo.

• 26:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 26:37Speaker 01

  Which is the 355 as well as their Ford products, the Bora products.

• 26:42Matt Farah?

  I drove the Escort.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  Um, everything that requires a donor car, we essentially offer, except for maybe Singer.

• 26:48Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  Um, and I just.

• 26:50Matt Farah?

  Well, they don't have dealers.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  They sort of do. They have dealer partners that do test drives and things. I went with brands that spoke to me that I wanted in the collection though. I mean, I have to say that like Chimera was a search for a, a crashed F40 that we could repaint and make a custom color. And then when you math the math, you're like, I'll be $3 million into something that won't be worth three. Now, of course they are. But at the time it was like, that's kind of sacrilegious.

• 27:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  And ended up with a, with a O37 in Verde Abatone green and just absolutely love it.

• 27:20Matt Farah?

  The O30, the O37 is sort of like, it is, it's F40-esque.

• 27:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:26Matt Farah?

  It does have a vibe of an F40. It's.

• 27:31Matt Farah?

  Maybe not quite as sorted, but like it's got the same kind of vibe for sure.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Everything that we carry is meant to be driven, I feel like though, because we have some great stuff in the collection that, you know, we're sort of not allowed to drive. Because God forbid, you know, we, we take something out and it, you know, the HK F40 or 288 gets a blemish. That while Nat was driving, you know, it's a hundred people on video got it while I clipped the mirror on the door to a parking garage or something. And then everyone talks about that car forever being that's the car.

• 28:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 28:06Speaker 01

  Whereas with these, with these brands we carry, I feel like you could rack it up pretty good, send it back to Chimera or whoever, and they're going to brand new car afterward.

• 28:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 28:15Speaker 01

  And it's not going to have this sort of history of negativity.

• 28:17Matt Farah?

  I guess, and people, do people care less about the miles and they care less about?

• 28:22Speaker 01

  And people care less about the miles.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  Is that because like the Chimera is so new that it hasn't become investment grade yet? Or not, not investment determined by low mileage?

• 28:32Speaker 01

  They've done so well though on the resale, secondary markets virtually double from the original MSRP. And that's real. Um, and I think that it's just meant to be driven. I mean, you guys drove, you know, a, an advanced prototype 38 today. You know, driving that car for two and a half hours with the current setup might be a little bit more rough than what you'd want long run. But I think if someone wants to go for like the ultimate morning hell spin.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:00Speaker 01

  That's the car.

• 29:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  I mean, it's a chainsaw, it makes all the great noises, very symphonic, like drivable thing experience.

• 29:07Matt Farah?

  It's, it's, it's incredibly overwhelming and intimidating if you are not like used to it. And if you don't, if there's a lot of people around, if you don't know where you're going, if you're trying to like figure shit out on the fly, it's just like, it's a lot.

• 29:28Matt Farah?

  But if, if what you're looking for is, you know, to go back to a time where a car made you sort of earn it, that's it.

• 29:37Speaker 01

  I totally agree, but I think that's also like where I would rather see, I think people are fed up with all the tech in these cars. I mean, we have an SF, SF 90, we have a 296, both of them have had some hiccups. You know, with the hybrid system, all cars seem to have problems here and there, but it's nice to know like the simple diagnosis of things. The Chimera's and the Gunther Werks, et cetera, can be worked on by a normal shop. You know, on a secondary, like Keen down the street can take care of both of those cars.

• 30:09Matt Farah?

  Really? Like, so, yeah, where do you take, that's where you just take a Chimera anywhere?

• 30:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, a flying doctor. If we have a heavy thing, we, every car comes with a laptop. If we log into it remotely via someone's wireless and there's some major component, we send in a flying doctor. Otherwise we give instructions and they change the oil and, or change the alternator. I mean, it's, it's, it's very modular like a race car.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  But yeah, I never thought I'd be in the position where I'd be selling these kinds of things.

• 30:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Cause they're kind of weird.

• 30:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, with my hot dogs to, to, to.

• 30:46Speaker 02

  And you never took a, like a layover in selling BMWs down the street or like any major dealership?

• 30:52Matt Farah?

  Didn't you work at a Land Rover dealer for a minute?

• 30:54Speaker 01

  When I left Wall Street, um, I wanted to learn how to hire and fire people. And what better place than working at Land Rover, right? Where, so at the time, they had just come out with the, with the sports. It was that era, that BMW, uh, Tata, was it Tata? Who was it? BMW and Tata, like handoff?

• 31:17Matt Farah?

  Oh, of Land Rover.

• 31:18Speaker 01

  Of Land Rover. It was at that time. It's like.

• 31:19Matt Farah?

  No, no, wait. It went from BMW to Ford.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  To Ford, that's right. Yeah. Cause they had the Jaguar and motor in it.

• 31:24Matt Farah?

  Ford before Tata.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  So it was in that time. So we had like half the cars we were selling had BMW motors and still half of them didn't. And it was a great time to see kind of how a shop transitioned to different stuff, different technology. That dealership is still in existence, uh, and my buddy Ryan still owns it. And I learned a lot there. I learned really how to hire and fire, but also how to really sell luxury product. What I realized about Land Rover was that the typical Land Rover, Range Rover customer just like recycles, they just come back in.

• 31:57Matt Farah?

  They just get the next one.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  It's the next one. Like literally the time the oil change is due, you'll see it just like dropped off and a new one comes back in.

• 32:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  But yeah, that was, that was my only standing car sales before this. And during, during COVID, we had picked up Glickenhaus and I took the gold car, which had gone up the hill at Goodwood the year before. And I put it in my trailer and my dog Guinness and I drove around the country with a motorcycle on the bed of the truck, the, the car in the back of the trailer and just did traveling salesmen everywhere. So I went down to Florida, down over to New Orleans, to Texas twice, back and forth. And did the sort of southeast corridor during the winter and sold cars.

• 32:39Matt Farah?

  Wow. Just bringing it to like individual customers?

• 32:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, guys that had reached out, people that we knew would be interested. And, uh, sort of, you know, went door to door, like a, like a old school investment banker and sold that.

• 32:52Matt Farah?

  The interior of that car covered in fucking alligator or something?

• 32:54Speaker 01

  That, that, that interior is sitting in a crate downstairs right now. It does have a black interior now with some gold stitch. We've brought it, uh.

• 33:05Matt Farah?

  I remember they pulled this thing out. I was like, holy shit, this interior. Was it alligator?

• 33:10Speaker 01

  It was, uh, it was ostrich.

• 33:12Matt Farah?

  Ostrich. Oh, ostrich.

• 33:13Speaker 01

  Ostrich.

• 33:14Matt Farah?

  Full ostrich, yes.

• 33:16Speaker 01

  And I'm loving getting to drive that car because that was like a true, uh, that was a really interesting analog experience. Um, and that car is now at Roush where Glickenhaus is producing the cars, getting brought up to crash tested spec.

• 33:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah. When are they actually going to start delivering those cars?

• 33:32Speaker 01

  So car seven is in build currently. That's going to a mutual friend of ours. Um, and then car four is a factory prototype that they're building up. They'll do further testing with and get as many miles on as possible. And then every 35 days they'll be pumping out a car or two, uh, as they ramp up. But Roush is.

• 33:53Matt Farah?

  What motors are they using?

• 33:54Speaker 01

  LT4.

• 33:55Matt Farah?

  That's the supercharged?

• 33:57Speaker 01

  Supercharged 650 horse.

• 33:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, from the Z06.

• 34:00Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 34:00Matt Farah?

  The old Z06.

• 34:01Speaker 01

  With a, with a Chima six speed.

• 34:04Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 34:05Speaker 01

  So just to, you know, they can handle a lot more power.

• 34:08Matt Farah?

  It's, it's a sequential?

• 34:09Speaker 01

  No, it's, it's a gated manual.

• 34:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah.

• 34:13Speaker 01

  And three seaters.

• 34:14Matt Farah?

  Is that the same, the same six speed transaxle as Pagani uses in the Utopia?

• 34:19Speaker 01

  I believe so. It was, it was theirs and it's, it's originally a helicopter transmission of some sort.

• 34:25Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, it is.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. So it's got some, it's got proven to like take a ton of abuse and we're not worried about the transmission.

• 34:32Matt Farah?

  They do, they did, it was something out of a helicopter.

• 34:36Speaker 02

  Didn't SSC use that? We drove a car that used the helicopter transmission.

• 34:39Matt Farah?

  I think that was, SSC was.

• 34:41Speaker 02

  I mean, SSC's an automatic, I know that.

• 34:43Speaker 01

  It's aerobatized.

• 34:44Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 34:44Speaker 01

  So it's not fully automatic.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 34:46Speaker 01

  It's doing, the SSC's aerobatized transmission.

• 34:49Speaker 02

  So I think it is the same transmission.

• 34:51Matt Farah?

  It might be SEMA. It might be SEMA. That's sound, that's where I heard helicopter.

• 34:54Speaker 02

  The term helicopter transmission doesn't go around a lot.

• 34:56Speaker 01

  They do use it. They do use one as well.

• 34:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. But those are two of the American brands and then Gunther Werks down in Huntington Beach, ton of fun.

• 35:04Matt Farah?

  We just, we just drove the, the Slantos, the F26, which is.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  Total weapon.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:12Matt Farah?

  It's actually too much. It's like, it's like, I, I, I love, I love Peter. I love what they do. There is a right amount of power for this car and that is not it. That is too much.

• 35:23Speaker 01

  I love my Speedster. I have to say like, I'm a, you know, I had my Targa that I've had forever, uh, 77 Targa. And the Speedster, you know, the top off never bothered me. We live in an area where we know about rain way in advance. It's not Miami. And that thing, for an naturally aspirated engine, it's quite the impressive.

• 35:42Matt Farah?

  Those are insanely fast.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  That's the correct one, I think.

• 35:44Matt Farah?

  If the weather's right, the Speedster's great, but a lot of the Speedsters don't have heat.

• 35:51Matt Farah?

  And they certainly don't have windows and it can be a little bit chilly.

• 35:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, but if you, and also if you get a drizzle at like 38 miles an hour, you get nothing in the car.

• 35:59Matt Farah?

  That's okay. I don't know. I'm not worried about that.

• 36:01Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 36:01Speaker 01

  You get that slow going, roll through some stop signs.

• 36:03Speaker 02

  With the increased traffic here, we had, you know, a lot of stop and go, so that might be a problem. But I, I think the power balance of this, of the Speedster is really good. And then like the dynamics of the suspension that Gunther Werks does is also really impressive, which the Chimera also had, like, I think that rode pretty nice.

• 36:16Matt Farah?

  The Chimera has a nice, has a nice ride. Um, it actually felt, you know, the gears feel really short in that car, but I think that's actually just because it's so loud.

• 36:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:26Matt Farah?

  And you, you almost never get near red line because it feels like the thing's going to eat itself. But it's not, but it just like, it's all like.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  I always felt, yeah, I liken it to like literally a cat in a blender. It's just so unsettling to, if you're not used to it. Uh, I've taken people for rides in that and they just think the car's braking the entire time.

• 36:46Matt Farah?

  It's just really, really overwhelming with sensory shit. And it's really a lot of things to think about at a time. And then we also drove this other thing you're doing called a 1511.

• 36:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:59Matt Farah?

  Which is, it's, it's, it's almost, uh, you, you've Gunthered or you've gone some of the way to Gunthering a 914.

• 37:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:08Matt Farah?

  Effectively. It's, uh, it's got a sort of integrated rigidity structure. It's not a roll cage, but it's like some kind of structure that makes it tight. It's got a four liter water cooled engine. Uh, it's a pretty nasty little thing.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  I think it's, it's probably one of those like in the restomod space right now, it's probably one of the better values, price wise, with a Porsche badge on it.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  You know, or without a badge.

• 37:36Matt Farah?

  How much is it?

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Delivery without a badge.

• 37:39Speaker 01

  3.95 quid, so around 5.50 USD.

• 37:42Matt Farah?

  What the fuck are you selling in quid? We're in Bedford.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  But it's UK-built, so you pay them directly.

• 37:48Matt Farah?

  Oh, I see.

• 37:49Speaker 01

  So you have to, you know, is it to sort of look at, yesterday-

• 37:52Speaker 02

  We're in New England.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  It was about a dollar thirty-three exchange rate not too long ago, but you know, it's fluctuated.

• 37:57Speaker 02

  So how much of that car is carbon fiber or new panels at least?

• 38:02Speaker 01

  Everything is carbon fiber on that car, even the door skins on that car.

• 38:07Speaker 02

  Okay, because you can see the weave through the like the paint and clear, which is very cool. But do they keep like the original unibody at all and then all the body panels that go on it are carbon fiber?

• 38:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, the body panels on it are carbon fiber, um, but the except for the Targa bar, obviously, right? Targa bar is still steel structure, um, and then underneath it, if you pop the hood and the trunk, you'll see all the added rigidity and structure they're adding into it. Also, the sills are much beefier.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  Well, the sills have like a low, almost where you see like a low cage, a cage.

• 38:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  But like inside that, the front hood is, it's really nicely shaped the way they've, I guess, buttressed and reinforced the wheel wells. And that thing handled great, steering's great.

• 38:46Matt Farah?

  It had a very nice ride, a very nice steering. I liked the linear power. I don't like the manual brakes. I think it needs to have power brakes.

• 38:56Speaker 01

  So we, we make a carbon ceramic for that, which has a boost.

• 38:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I, I would want a brake booster. I, I, even though the car's light, I, I, I've never driven a car that had any kind of power whatsoever that had manual brakes that I thought was a good idea. I'm glad you can get power brakes as some kind of an option. I'd probably include the booster on the steel brakes that are on it.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 39:17Matt Farah?

  Um, and then there's, there's, there's a weird bit of a, maybe a little hiccuping if you tip into the throttle a little too quickly. So it's a little, a little rough around the edges, but as a concept, I liked it a lot.

• 39:29Speaker 01

  I think the, the, the fuel pedal you're dealing with is all CAN bus, soft drive by wire. That's tunable out. Um, the, I particularly, I like the main, I like the feel of a non-boosted brake. If you remember, I had a gray 912 with a three liter in it back in the day.

• 39:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  This is kind of that next generation for me of that, when I was thinking about what I wanted in a car. I liked it more analog, but having driven the one that's in Colorado with the carbon ceramics we just delivered to a customer, that is, I think, the better choice.

• 39:58Speaker 02

  I think it's, I was just surprised because it's got what, Brembo six piston front, four rear? Like, these are strong brakes, the car weighs nothing. And even getting real deep in the pedal, I felt like I was never slowing down as much as I wanted to.

• 40:09Matt Farah?

  Wanted to, yeah.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  And I was like, that's surprising for a car that's so light. So either the booster or pad choice or whatever.

• 40:14Speaker 01

  Fair.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  But like, but look, I mean, as a concept, I mean, it's kind of like your spider at sixty, sixty percent scale. You know, you shrink it a ton, but the seats are good, position's good, shifting's great, steering's great.

• 40:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's a nice, it's a nice thing to drive.

• 40:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:31Matt Farah?

  It is a really nice thing. I could spend all day in it. It was great.

• 40:34Speaker 02

  It feels real solid.

• 40:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's tight.

• 40:36Speaker 02

  Very tight, like no wiggles or anything like that. And then you go over, you know, a lot of the pavement here looks like it was arched a little bit. But the thing just rides really nice.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  Welcome to West.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, it floats over it. It's good.

• 40:46Matt Farah?

  No, it's, it's a, it's a very tight little thing that, that's got a lot, I mean, it, it, it feels like a very solidly made, um, item. It, you know, you drive, even though the Chimera is very nice, when you get back in this thing, which is number one of this car, it's just your first go at it, you go, Porsches are just better.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  But they, but they, you know, I always say, even our Myers Minks, like anything that's got a flat engine in it of some sort seems to be so usable.

• 41:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 41:15Speaker 01

  Like I can take the Gunther Werks to go groceries, you know, the same thing with, with the 1511. You don't have to, it's not just to show up to the Cars and Coffee kind of car.

• 41:22Matt Farah?

  No, and you can, in the 1511, you can just let off the clutch without giving it any gas and it will just creep forward. So you can, in traffic or whatever, it's, it's pretty nice.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  Nice little torquey car.

• 41:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 41:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is a blast. I was really excited, uh, to have met Ben and do that as a JV with them. It's a, I think it's a fun project and everyone who's buying one is like the, like the real deal car guy.

• 41:47Matt Farah?

  You kind of have to be because you're not going to impress somebody by telling them that you've spent half a million bucks on a 914.

• 41:54Speaker 01

  But if you look at 914 history and pedigree, it beat 911s in Le Mans three years in a row.

• 42:00Matt Farah?

  But you have to explain that to people.

• 42:01Speaker 02

  Right.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  I guess.

• 42:02Matt Farah?

  They don't know, just know that.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  I guess.

• 42:05Matt Farah?

  That's not a thing that is standard.

• 42:08Speaker 02

  They, the 914 hasn't gotten like the praise and marketing boost both from Porsche and from like the community that, excuse me, that the Aircolds did, you know, starting 20 years ago with like Magnus. They haven't, they haven't had that moment. I think they're starting to. They've had a good showing at the Luftkugel's events.

• 42:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  Like that section's been growing a lot and there's really cool stuff there. And when they're turned up a bit, I mean, when they, you know, they put the six in them or whatever, like they're really exciting.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  The 914 six was a great car to begin with.

• 42:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 42:37Speaker 01

  Like I said, two liters, people had two fives, like strokers and then two sevens in them. Um, I, I just feel like going liquid gold wasn't sacrilegious.

• 42:47Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 42:47Matt Farah?

  And, and- I don't think so at all.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  Made it more reliable.

• 42:49Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 42:50Speaker 01

  And, and, and cheaper to produce in reality, less expensive to produce, I should say. And if you look at the, the drivability of that car because of it, and it's not carbureted and it's not getting heat soaked and all the things that you'd have with a-

• 43:02Matt Farah?

  Although the heat is coming out of the radiators and right into the cabin.

• 43:08Speaker 01

  Is it right now?

• 43:08Matt Farah?

  It vent, it vents out of the, the side, you know, the, the, the side bit there.

• 43:13Speaker 01

  How's your leg hair doing on that?

• 43:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, no, not, not there.

• 43:16Speaker 02

  Well, actually, your legs get cooled because when you turn the AC on, the only vent that seems to emit cold air is aimed at the ankles.

• 43:21Matt Farah?

  It blows at your feet.

• 43:21Speaker 02

  So it kind of fights with the, with the heat.

• 43:24Matt Farah?

  AC blows on your feet.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  I think if the Targa top was on, those top vents would actually be producing a-

• 43:28Matt Farah?

  Oh, maybe.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  Through the, uh, the defrost vents?

• 43:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, you were, you were losing that, all of that was just flying up the door.

• 43:33Matt Farah?

  That's hilarious. But I did like, outside of the brakes, which weren't my favorite, I did like how that car drove a lot. I thought the other inputs were very nice and the ride and handling and all that was really good.

• 43:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, the, the prototype, uh, was, was loved in the UK. This was the first one for the US and customer cars starting to drop off. But they are, like I said, the real deal people, like just some amazing customers are, that are buying these.

• 43:59Matt Farah?

  They, um-

• 44:00Speaker 01

  Like true Porsche customers.

• 44:02Matt Farah?

  And you get a nose lift on it.

• 44:04Speaker 01

  So-

• 44:05Matt Farah?

  This one's grappy a little bit.

• 44:06Speaker 01

  Did it?

• 44:07Matt Farah?

  A little bit.

• 44:07Speaker 01

  Okay, I mean, I think that's pretty well prompted and obviously on the Gunther Werks, you got one and you have to use it, like super low lip.

• 44:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 44:16Speaker 01

  Um, and then, and the Chimera, when I picked it up from you guys, it was in full up mode.

• 44:21Matt Farah?

  It was in full up mode?

• 44:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, well, we, he, we were-

• 44:24Speaker 02

  I did that when I turned her around.

• 44:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he did it when he turned around afterwards. Yeah, yeah, no.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  So I didn't know if you had driven around.

• 44:29Matt Farah?

  I'd use it up, put it up and down a couple of times. Yeah, it, it does work. Actually, I mean, and the Chimera is, is, I can't wear shoes in it. My feet don't fit on pedals. But, uh, once I'm sitting in it, it's actually quite comfortable.

• 44:42Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 44:42Matt Farah?

  I'm glad it has both belts.

• 44:44Speaker 01

  And those are the comfort seats? And where that came into play was for a shorter guy, it's the only way to get a seat that comes up.

• 44:50Matt Farah?

  Hmm.

• 44:51Speaker 01

  Otherwise, you're all the way up the pan. And on the 1511, we've made the seat actually lower.

• 44:56Matt Farah?

  I thought the, the shape of the seat was good. It could always go lower. Yeah. What's up?

• 45:01Speaker 01

  How are you? Hey, we're just filming something, bud, can you? You what? We're just filming something. I'm surprised the boys didn't say something.

• 45:07Matt Farah?

  Give us five minutes?

• 45:07Speaker 01

  Five minutes? Sorry, Ken. Please. Please.

• 45:12Matt Farah?

  You can go right there?

• 45:14Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 45:18Matt Farah?

  It happens.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 45:20Matt Farah?

  Um, we really, we have, we probably have three minutes, actually.

• 45:23Speaker 01

  Okay. So you guys are off to go paint Crown Vix?

• 45:25Matt Farah?

  We're gonna go race, yeah, we're gonna go race with Cletus and, uh, tomorrow at Stafford Motor Speedway.

• 45:30Speaker 01

  That's awesome.

• 45:31Matt Farah?

  It's gonna be crazy.

• 45:31Speaker 02

  Very different, uh, experience than the cars today.

• 45:34Speaker 01

  The last time I raced there was in my, was in a Lemons race and my insurance broker came with us as one of the teammates and crashed our car.

• 45:43Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 45:44Speaker 01

  So like, it's like, that was the last time I was there and we-

• 45:47Speaker 02

  He's like, hey, will you tell the insurance company this didn't happen on crack?

• 45:50Speaker 01

  When Craigslist existed, we found a Jetta, no, a Golf. We found a Jetta to replace the Golf, a Jetta on Craigslist down the road.

• 45:58Matt Farah?

  To race?

• 45:59Speaker 01

  To get the engine and transmission out.

• 46:01Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 46:01Speaker 01

  When it hit the wall, the, the front prop shaft had gone through the, the transmission casing and made a hairline crack, so it was leaking oil. So we just picked up a whole engine and a whole car to swap the engine and transmission in.

• 46:12Speaker 02

  That's Lemons.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  But you guys are gonna love Stafford Springs. It's so old school and so like-

• 46:16Matt Farah?

  It's a half mile oval?

• 46:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think it's a half.

• 46:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's gonna be a shit show, so.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  Two hours of left, left turns, man.

• 46:23Matt Farah?

  There's lots of left.

• 46:24Speaker 02

  Next is gonna be sore.

• 46:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's gonna be tough, but thanks, dude. Good to see you.

• 46:27Speaker 01

  Thank you. Thanks for coming up and visiting.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  A real quick one, someone asked, what's more essential to a good hot dog, the bun or the meat?

• 46:34Speaker 01

  Potato bun makes it.

• 46:36Matt Farah?

  It goes a long way.

• 46:38Speaker 01

  It does. If you're boiling them, they all taste the same. I'd say potato bun.

• 46:42Matt Farah?

  My favorite new method for cooking a hot dog? Spiral cut it.

• 46:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:47Matt Farah?

  In the Breville like air for toaster, air fryer thing for like 12 minutes, you get delightfully crispy. It's very nice.

• 46:56Speaker 01

  I like a butterfly if I'm gonna grill it, but the carts are in on Sterno.

• 47:00Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 47:01Speaker 01

  Because they were used within Shea Stadium.

• 47:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotta upgrade them shits.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Well, you guys will have to come back when Greenwich opens.

• 47:09Matt Farah?

  Oh, and you're show, yes.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, you have a new like showroom building.

• 47:12Matt Farah?

  You're actually gonna have a showroom in Greenwich.

• 47:13Speaker 02

  You won't always be in front of this.

• 47:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 47:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, 366 West Buttonham Ave.

• 47:17Matt Farah?

  Across the street from BMW, right next to Ferrari Maserati.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  Yep, and we're, we're opening up this winter and we'll, we'll have to have you guys come back for that.

• 47:26Matt Farah?

  For sure. We will be there. Thank you, everybody.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  Thanks, guys.

• 47:29Matt Farah?

  This is a short, short show, but we have to go to a 311 concert at Jones Beach tonight.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 47:35Matt Farah?

  We got, it's a long way away.

• 47:36Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 47:36Matt Farah?

  Nat, Monday, HK Motor Cars. We appreciate you. See you later.

• 47:40Speaker 01

  Thanks, guys.

• 47:40Matt Farah?

  Bye.