Billion-Dollar Insurance Bandit w/ Jenny Yang

Laci is joined by writer, comedian, and friend Jenny Yang (Last Man Standing) to discuss the “Warren Buffett” of insurance fraud. Greg Lindberg stole $2 billion from his own companies, then tried to pay a state official $200 million to stay quiet about it. Plus, a baddie climate activist from China allegedly sex-blackmailed Milwaukee Bucks co-owner Wes Edens. Laci asks: Are psychics, valets, and tipping outside of restaurants a scam, a scheme, or the real thing? Stay schemin’! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Jenny Yang: @jennyyangtv Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article315890645.html https://www.wral.com/news/nccapitol/greg-lindberg-sentenced-prison-nc-money-laundering-insurance-political-donor-may-2026/ https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/breaking-news/greg-lindberg-sentenced-to-12-years-for-2-billion-insurance-fraud-576831.aspx https://nypost.com/2026/05/27/business/fraudster-billionaire-who-wanted-50-kids-with-blonde-blue-eyed-women-sentenced-to-prison/ https://www.theassemblync.com/news/business/greg-lindberg-bribery-conviction/ https://www.wsj.com/articles/financier-who-amassed-insurance-firms-diverted-2-billion-into-his-private-empire-11551367856?mod=article_inline https://www.foxnews.com/us/feds-say-woman-tried-extort-nba-team-owner-fake-sex-videos-one-night-stand https://nypost.com/2026/05/13/us-news/wesley-edens-blackmail-suspect-bailed-out-by-chinese-foreign-agent/

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:48Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. One thing's for sure, we will always laugh at them, but never the victims. Congregation, y'all already know. Ooh, yes. Roll down your window, get some of that summer air. If the globe ain't warmed, where you at yet? Yes.

• 2:14Laci Mosley?

  Go ahead, get up, stand up, wave, stick your hand out the window if you're driving. Yeah, let it feel in the breeze, yes. We can all pretend to be a dog sometimes. Y'all already know I'm very what? Yes, excited, elated, ecstatic for my homie to return to the show. She is a funny comedian, writer, and actress. She's also the host of the podcast, What Should We Talk About? Congregation, make sure to enter the chat, okay? You may have heard her voice or seen her lovely face in some of her works, such as Last Man Standing, The Saviors, The Great North, and so, so much more. And she's the creator and host of Self Help Me, a competitive self-care comedy game show. Congregation, please welcome my friend Jenny Yang to the show.

• 2:59Speaker 04

  Oh my goodness, congregation, I'm so honored to be here.

• 3:03Laci Mosley?

  So happy to have you. Wait, this isn't your first time, right?

• 3:06Speaker 04

  No, I'm returning.

• 3:07Laci Mosley?

  I know, I said returning, and then like, for some reason, I was like, no, no, no, I'm right, I'm right. It's been a minute. I see you I R L.

• 3:14Speaker 04

  I do, I do. So that's why it makes you, it tricks you into thinking that I've been on before. I remember very vividly our last show together, Scam Goddess show together, and it was about that wild New Jersey water park.

• 3:26Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 3:26Speaker 04

  That killed people.

• 3:27Laci Mosley?

  Oh my gosh, that was during the height of COVID, in our houses, yeah, Action Park. Or, yeah, yes. Oh my goodness, wow, what a time. I'm glad that we finally snagged you back, because she's booked busy in all, probably in a city near you. By the time this comes out, she definitely will not be in Los Angeles.

• 3:45Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 3:47Laci Mosley?

  I feel like you just walk out the door and you just catch a flight. I feel like they have to just.

• 3:50Speaker 04

  I'm trying to. Listen, we are out here trying to spread the good word, and the good word is comedy.

• 3:54Laci Mosley?

  It is. That's all we can do. We laugh to keep from crying.

• 3:58Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 3:59Laci Mosley?

  Whenever we can. Now, Jenny, I have some questions for you, and I want to get some opinions from you.

• 4:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 4:06Laci Mosley?

  So I'm gonna ask you about three different subject matters, and I want to know if you think they are a scam, a scheme, or a real thing? A scam, meaning it's full-out, full-blown scam, please put the metal bracelets on the girls. A scheme, meaning it feels like it should be illegal, and it gets a little shady at times. And then, a real thing is like, it's legitimate, we might not like it, but you know, it helps society function, or whatever.

• 4:33Laci Mosley?

  And I have one rambling note about community. Y'all, I love that y'all are going to therapy, but some of y'all are going to therapy and leaving with the wrong things. Y'all leaving with a therapy vocabulary and then just using it all willy nilly and don't even know what the fuck it mean. Boundaries are important, but you can't be like, oh, if your boundaries are like, I can't show up for you because this is my boundary. I'm tired. I can't help you move. That's my boundary. I can't pick you up. That's my boundary. I can't. Eventually it's like, baby, community is also about inconvenience. Like every time we see community, it's always like a pretty picture of like a bunch of people around one person smiling, probably drinking like a White Claw or something. Sometimes community is doing shit that is fucking annoying.

• 5:15Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 5:16Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes community is a baby on a plane.

• 5:17Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 5:18Laci Mosley?

  And you gotta just try to support the parents of that unemployed yelling ass baby.

• 5:23Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 5:24Laci Mosley?

  Because that's community.

• 5:25Speaker 04

  It is. You can't be using boundary as an excuse for bad behavior.

• 5:29Laci Mosley?

  People do. They use it for being a lousy friend. I'm like, no, your boundary can't be, I'm a trash ass friend.

• 5:35Speaker 04

  Lacey, name names.

• 5:37Laci Mosley?

  The list would be endless. But the funny one I do remember was Jonah Hill and that girl, that surfer girl that he was dating. And then he was sending her all these crazy text messages because she would be out on the surf, like surfing with other dudes. But it's not like they like on the same surfboard, you know, like cuddled up. It's like they riding their brakes in the waves or whatever the fuck, cowabunga.

• 5:58Speaker 04

  I remember this.

• 5:59Laci Mosley?

  And he was like, well, you posing in these swimsuits on the beach, that's my boundary. I don't want to see you in these swimsuits. I was like, that's not a boundary, bro.

• 6:08Laci Mosley?

  It's not a boundary if you're trying to make somebody else do something.

• 6:10Speaker 04

  My boundary is making sure that you cook me breakfast, lunch and dinner every day.

• 6:14Laci Mosley?

  That's my boundary.

• 6:15Speaker 04

  That's my boundary.

• 6:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And you overstepping it right now because where is the spaghetti I asked for? It's 5:30.

• 6:22Speaker 04

  Thank you. I'm an early dinner.

• 6:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you're right. I don't know. I just needed to say that. But so scam scheme or a real thing. First one here, Jenny, psychics.

• 6:32Speaker 04

  Psychics? It's a scheme.

• 6:33Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 6:34Speaker 04

  It's a scheme. I feel like it really depends on, it's like a medical professional or a chiropractor. You gotta choose the right person because there are people who can scam as psychics. And then I kind of believe there's some people who just have that wisdom.

• 6:48Laci Mosley?

  I do too. Right?

• 6:50Speaker 04

  Don't you believe that?

• 6:51Laci Mosley?

  And even if it's like deductive reasoning, like, I don't give a shit. Even if you just came to it because you like, you, I'm seeing a school. Meanwhile, I got like my teacher badge on. Exactly. I'm seeing children, the pitter patter of feet.

• 7:05Speaker 04

  Because I call it, to me, it's a scheme that has been passed down through matrilineal lines and heritage. Okay, it is a woman's scheme.

• 7:14Laci Mosley?

  I've never seen a male psychic.

• 7:16Speaker 04

  That's right. So I believe in women's rights and wrongs. And so I think if you're a woman who is able to offer wisdom by just reading someone's aura, fuck it.

• 7:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 7:26Speaker 04

  Get at it. Charge me a hundred bucks for it, that's on you.

• 7:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 7:31Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? So it's a scheme. It's a scheme. I feel like, of course, there's scammers. Don't be abusing that, right? Don't be abusing that.

• 7:37Laci Mosley?

  Don't be like, yeah, the universe told me to hand, you need to hand over your, like, the deed to your home to me and stuff, which psychics have done that we've covered on this show.

• 7:44Speaker 04

  No, we don't like that.

• 7:45Laci Mosley?

  No, but I feel like going in and even if it's just confirming your own biases or getting the courage to do something that you're scared to do because the psychic lady said it all comes together. And I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, bet. Now, if men were psychics, then I say scam fully because like.

• 8:01Speaker 04

  A hundred percent. They don't have that women's intuition.

• 8:03Laci Mosley?

  They don't. I think they also don't have the listening skills. If they can't listen to living people, they certainly can't listen to spirits.

• 8:10Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 8:10Laci Mosley?

  I don't think no ghost has ever spoken to a man.

• 8:14Speaker 04

  I question a male therapist. That's all I'm saying. Even in therapy, I question a male therapist. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

• 8:19Laci Mosley?

  Right, because men be with their homeboys and be like, yeah, my homie just got divorced. She'd be like, why? I don't know. I'm like, haven't y'all been friends since you were eight? Like, why don't you know? You didn't ask no follow-up questions? You definitely ain't following up with my dad and granny. Like, no.

• 8:32Speaker 04

  Tell me more is three magical words. Tell me more. Learn them. Learn them.

• 8:38Laci Mosley?

  They're like, oh, man, that's tough. Anyways. Oh, that's tough. You want another round? It's like, what? Give that man a hug.

• 8:46Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 8:47Laci Mosley?

  That's your friend.

• 8:48Speaker 04

  I know.

• 8:48Laci Mosley?

  I agree with you. I'm gonna say scheme as well.

• 8:50Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 8:51Laci Mosley?

  Cause I'll get my tarot cards read every now and then.

• 8:53Speaker 04

  Why not?

• 8:54Laci Mosley?

  And like, if it's something that's guiding me in the right direction, then why not?

• 8:58Speaker 04

  And then if you get a gut reaction against what they're saying, then that's also information.

• 9:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 9:03Speaker 04

  Right? Where you're like, okay, maybe I'm not into this. I'm not into what they're saying.

• 9:07Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 9:07Speaker 04

  You know, and that's, that's knowledge. To be like, alright, well, let me listen to myself. It's not like you just, you know, follow whatever they say whole cloth.

• 9:15Laci Mosley?

  No, but some people do.

• 9:17Speaker 04

  I know. And that's too, too vulnerable. Don't be that vulnerable.

• 9:20Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I guess I would rather you go to a regular psychic than be in a cult.

• 9:24Speaker 04

  I feel like one is, like, both people have the same need, which is the need for answers.

• 9:30Laci Mosley?

  That they can't figure out on their own, so that they can have peace.

• 9:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:34Laci Mosley?

  But I'd rather you go to a psychic than be like, you know, living on a compound.

• 9:37Speaker 04

  But you know what it is, though? Regardless of whether or not you choose a cult or a psychic, as humans, sometimes, we just wanna not think. We just wanna outsource our free will. And just be like, I just need to put this on someone else to tell me what to do.

• 9:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 9:51Speaker 04

  And that's dangerous.

• 9:53Laci Mosley?

  It is, but also sometimes, you're right, like.

• 9:56Speaker 04

  But that's freeing for some people.

• 9:57Laci Mosley?

  Like, why people enjoy the structure of, like, the military.

• 10:00Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 10:01Laci Mosley?

  Or like, I even remember being a kid and like, having to go to school the same time every single day. And I would get my sister ready before, and I would listen to Steve Harvey in the morning show like an old lady every morning. And like, have my routine. I, I don't remember being as anxious then.

• 10:15Speaker 04

  I think so, and I, I feel like that's why, you know, people are, young kids, the young'uns, the Gen Z, they're increasingly going to Catholic church. They like the structure of it.

• 10:25Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no. It ain't lit enough in there for me. No shade to the Catholics. Y'all get to go throw them rosaries in the air, wave them like you just don't care. I heard the funniest joke, I wish I could remember who said it, but they were like, "I feel like Jesus is not coming back because everybody wearing them crucifixes, and he feels like that's a threat."

• 10:41Speaker 04

  What?

• 10:43Speaker 04

  Our crucifixes.

• 10:44Laci Mosley?

  Cause the crucifix is what we killed a man on.

• 10:46Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 10:47Laci Mosley?

  We killed him and now we walking around with the murder weapons just on us.

• 10:50Speaker 04

  That's real.

• 10:51Laci Mosley?

  Gold plated with diamonds and shit. I wouldn't come back either.

• 10:54Speaker 04

  That's real.

• 10:55Laci Mosley?

  That's why he ain't saying was from Trump. He said, I ain't coming down there. All you MAGA supporters are trying to deport my ass to El Salvador.

• 11:01Speaker 04

  That's true. That's true. I never thought of it that way. I like that. Listen, if I got killed with a gun, I'm not gonna come back and embrace people wearing guns all over their bodies.

• 11:10Laci Mosley?

  Wearing gun necklaces. You're not safe. You're not safe. I don't wanna be around you. Moving on to our next scam scheme, a real thing. Valet.

• 11:23Speaker 04

  Valet?

• 11:23Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 11:24Speaker 04

  Oh, that's real.

• 11:25Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 11:25Speaker 04

  That's real. Do you, I, listen, if you're, if you live in Los Angeles or any city where parking is scarce, that is a true convenience. Do you know how much str- do you know how much, I broke up with a man.

• 11:37Laci Mosley?

  Hmm.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  Because he lived in K-town.

• 11:40Laci Mosley?

  That's fair.

• 11:40Speaker 04

  He lived in Koreatown and for three nights separately, I cried because I couldn't show up for that booty call.

• 11:47Laci Mosley?

  No, I get that.

• 11:48Speaker 04

  That is, that affects my mental, spiritual and loin health.

• 11:52Laci Mosley?

  As you was driving to peen and then having to circle the block.

• 11:56Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 11:56Laci Mosley?

  Just circling the block. You supposed to be circling the dick.

• 11:59Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 11:59Laci Mosley?

  You circling the block. Yeah, that would mess with me.

• 12:02Speaker 04

  I'm just saying, like, I, I believe valet is a true service. Tip your valet drivers. They're keeping your car safe, car safe while you're like, doing what you gotta do.

• 12:11Laci Mosley?

  Tip your valet drivers. That's gonna go into our next thing, but, um, but also I don't like how valet drivers move all of my seats. Yes, I know I'm a little person, but you're literally in, except for on the internet, y'all. Y'all know I'm 5'9". Don't let nobody tell you different. But I feel like when I get back in my car and every setting is changed, I'm like, you drove it up the block, my guy. You had to change every mirror and move the seat all the way back to the backseat?

• 12:35Speaker 04

  So that's a petite lady issue. I am not a petite lady. I'm so sorry.

• 12:40Laci Mosley?

  So when you get back, your settings be the same?

• 12:42Speaker 04

  Yeah. I got long legs, short torso.

• 12:46Laci Mosley?

  I have long legs and short torso too.

• 12:48Speaker 04

  But I'm taller than you.

• 12:49Laci Mosley?

  Are you?

• 12:52Laci Mosley?

  Can y'all hear that she's taller than me? I don't hear it either.

• 12:55Speaker 04

  I got a tall voice.

• 13:00Laci Mosley?

  I feel like sometimes it can be a scheme because, and here's why. I feel like in Los Angeles, one, it pisses me off the way the city was designed. It feels like it was just paved by like, they just followed like a wild animals like footprints. And we're like, let's pave this. Like, it's too big of a state for us to continue to have establishments that do not have any parking.

• 13:21Speaker 04

  I get that. I get that.

• 13:22Laci Mosley?

  Like-

• 13:23Speaker 04

  But let me explain as someone who went to grad school in urban planning and know a lot.

• 13:27Laci Mosley?

  We got an urban planner on the show. Wait a minute!

• 13:30Speaker 04

  Listen, I don't drop all my credentials all the time, but in this moment, the problem is, is Los Angeles was built by, how do you say it? Real estate prospectors and heavily lobbied by the car and rubber tire industry. So, you know, they didn't do a lot of thinking. It was more about, how do we just get people on freeways? You know what I'm saying?

• 13:55Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 13:55Speaker 04

  So, when it comes to like, the livable driving experience with parking lots and parking on the city streets, not a lot of forethought.

• 14:03Laci Mosley?

  At all?

• 14:04Speaker 04

  No. That's not how it is. Because LA was such a new city relatively, right? Compared to the rest of the country, that it was established in a messed up, extra-capitalistic way.

• 14:16Laci Mosley?

  Right. We ain't got no Gilded Age.

• 14:18Speaker 04

  No. And so they were just like, just, it's everything about the 1950s that happened, it's, you know, chewed up LA and spit it out.

• 14:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. I'm gonna toss in racism.

• 14:28Speaker 04

  I mean that too.

• 14:29Laci Mosley?

  Because a lot of those freeways are built through black and POC neighborhoods.

• 14:32Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 14:33Laci Mosley?

  And they cut off access to rich neighborhoods and a lot of brown people did not have cars. Or not, maybe sometimes not even because they couldn't afford them, because people would sell black people cars.

• 14:44Speaker 04

  I would argue, I would argue, you're a description of a city where the streets were sort of paved after the hooves of animals is Boston. That's real because that's like pre-colonial to colonial age and it's just

• 14:58Laci Mosley?

  I was just there, it does give like

• 14:59Speaker 04

  A bunch of clippy cloppies. That's why if you've ever driven in the Boston area, it's terrible guys. Because they just, all of a sudden, it's like, they're turning, they're merging out of nowhere because these were not built for high-speed cars. It's built for little turns of little horse carriages.

• 15:15Laci Mosley?

  I agree with you. And in LA, except for specific venues, I agree that valet is definitely a necessity and it's a real thing. I will say in bigger places, like when I go to Texas, if I see a valet and it's like for an event and I see a huge ass parking lot that they've just roped off so that they can park your car and charge you for it. I'm like, bro, that whole parking lot is right there. How you gonna pop up, how you a pop-up valet? Also, how can I get involved? Like, what time do I need to show up to the Walmart parking lot and start putting caution tape around that bitch and be like, y'all trying to go to this concert? Give me your car.

• 15:46Speaker 04

  Listen, Texas is a whole other thing. They got enough space.

• 15:49Laci Mosley?

  Truly. That's why I'm like, valet in Texas, like, y'all are fucking playing with me.

• 15:54Laci Mosley?

  I'm parking my car on the lawn, kiss my ass.

• 15:58Laci Mosley?

  No, so I, I do agree with you on that. Okay, last but not least, scam scheme are a real thing. We talk about tipping the valet. Tipping outside of restaurants, so not restaurant tipping, but anywhere else.

• 16:12Speaker 04

  Um, I think it's a real thing slash a scheme. It really depends on where you are and what industry you're talking about.

• 16:20Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna include baristas in restaurant, like, in like food service.

• 16:24Speaker 04

  I tip.

• 16:25Laci Mosley?

  I, I love my non-binary baristas and they are included in the restaurant, like, we should be tipping them, okay? If they got purple hair and you're not tipping, you tripping.

• 16:33Speaker 04

  So, listen, in America, as some of you might know, the history of tipping is obviously built off of racism.

• 16:38Laci Mosley?

  Reconstruction.

• 16:39Speaker 04

  Slavery.

• 16:40Laci Mosley?

  Answer to everything. It truly is. Listen, baby, America about to fill up that cement, they about to fill that swimming pool up with cement because they would rather nobody swim than anybody brown get in.

• 16:51Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 16:51Laci Mosley?

  That's where we're at, baby.

• 16:53Speaker 04

  So if you're listening to this outside of America, that's just a history. So for me, given that history, I do tend to tip because, I don't know. I used to work for the labor movement and I'm like, it's nice to just tip.

• 17:06Speaker 04

  At hotels, I know. At hotels, I try to tip. I do tip, like, if I just came from a cafe in Hollywood just now before I got here. I tipped on my first little toast. I did tip like a dollar.

• 17:19Laci Mosley?

  Well, maybe I should have been more clear. Hospitality is not included.

• 17:22Speaker 04

  All right.

• 17:23Laci Mosley?

  So that includes service industry, like, all of that. I'm talking about, like, a specific time. I went to, I like to give people birthday boxes sometimes, only my witchy women. Um, so I'll go to, um, what is that store called? The one in L.A., you know, the witchy one, where they sell you, like, a box of expensive rocks and candles. Intuition.

• 17:42Speaker 04

  Intuition, that's right.

• 17:43Laci Mosley?

  And I remember I've gone in there and, like, bought, you know, a birthday box. And then, like, when I'm, they turn the iPad around and it's like tip suggestions.

• 17:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, thank you.

• 17:52Laci Mosley?

  And I'm like, I just shopped in here. I brought it to the counter myself. Now, if a witch had come out and put some Palo Santo around me and been like, this is where you need to go. Maybe I give her a tip for that.

• 18:02Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 18:02Laci Mosley?

  But I'm like, if I come into a store and I purchase things, I don't understand why you're asking me for a tip.

• 18:06Speaker 04

  If you take away the sort of hospitality, then yeah, I think that's a scheme.

• 18:10Laci Mosley?

  The place that I used to get Juvederm at. They had a situation, which I later found out, I'll say this in order. So they had a situation where, like, I would go there. I'd gone there for years. And, um, only to, because my one nurse was there, and finally she left, so I followed her to where she went. But before I would get, like, either, like, I get Juvederm under my eyes sometimes because.

• 18:32Speaker 04

  What's Juvederm?

• 18:33Laci Mosley?

  So Juvederm is a filler. Some people get it in their lips instead. That's why you see the girls with the lip that'd be like, you know, they can't, they can't eat normal again. Do a straw, let the lip flip. Um, I get it under my eyes because in my family, it's just a genetic thing that it's, the volume starts to, like, like, go inward.

• 18:52Speaker 04

  I mean, your eyes look great right now.

• 18:53Laci Mosley?

  Thank you.

• 18:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:55Laci Mosley?

  So I'll get that done maybe once a year. But, um, before I get it done, this, uh, nurse or the lady at the front desk would come in and pull up the price of the procedure. And I would pay, and it would ask me if, like, to leave a tip.

• 19:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:11Laci Mosley?

  Now, in that position, I felt really held hostage. I always left a 20% tip because. You're asking me to leave a tip before the person comes in. You're not trusting little minors, so I would, I don't.

• 19:21Speaker 04

  Right, so that's an established relationship.

• 19:23Laci Mosley?

  But in the beginning, the first time that they whip that out.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  That's weird.

• 19:26Laci Mosley?

  I was like.

• 19:27Speaker 04

  No.

• 19:28Laci Mosley?

  Um, I have to tip because you're about to inject my face. What if, what if I don't give you no tip and now you mad and then you start stabbing me wrong? What's going on?

• 19:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't know about that. That is a scam if you're showing me the tipping monitor before you do the service. That, that becomes a threat.

• 19:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 19:44Speaker 04

  Then that becomes a threat.

• 19:45Laci Mosley?

  I kind of understood the payment thing just because like, what if I run out with the stuff in my eye? You can't get it back. Like, I kind of get that.

• 19:53Speaker 04

  They can't suck it back out.

• 19:55Laci Mosley?

  Right, if they juces, if they put it in and I just bolt for the door, like, I kind of get that. But the tipping thing, I was like, nah, because what if she fucked me up because I leave no good tip? I don't like this. I don't like this. I later found out at the, the place that my nurse went to, like, I tried, like, when I paid for the first time. Uh, this was maybe a couple of weeks ago.

• 20:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:11Laci Mosley?

  I was like, oh, and where's the tipping option? And she was like, oh, ma'am, we don't, this is a medical procedure. No one should be asking you for a tip. I was like, I've been tipping for like, five years.

• 20:20Speaker 04

  That's a scam. See, that's a scam.

• 20:22Laci Mosley?

  The owner of the last place was like, using up all the drugs for her personal use and like stealing the tips from the nurses and stuff.

• 20:29Speaker 04

  Listen, I feel like any kind of like cosmetic beauty clinic can be a potential front for money laundering.

• 20:36Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 20:37Speaker 04

  I'm just saying, it's very, it's ripe.

• 20:39Laci Mosley?

  You know what? Instead of a laundromat, it should be that because how you gonna tell me how many laser facials I did today?

• 20:46Speaker 04

  You don't know.

• 20:47Laci Mosley?

  Listen. Oh, we need to be running that drug money through the.

• 20:49Speaker 04

  You can cook the books on that one.

• 20:51Laci Mosley?

  Through the med spa.

• 20:52Speaker 04

  Real easy. Med spa, you really easy cook the books.

• 20:55Laci Mosley?

  We did 12, $1,200 facial massages.

• 20:58Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 20:58Laci Mosley?

  Today.

• 20:59Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 21:00Laci Mosley?

  Who gonna know?

• 21:01Speaker 04

  No one's gonna know.

• 21:02Laci Mosley?

  Ooh. Ideas, guys.

• 21:05Speaker 04

  Maybe you need to run a scam. We're gonna, we're giving you ideas. That's what this show's about. Scam goddess means here.

• 21:14Laci Mosley?

  Absolutely not. Y'all know the, the abu gado fund, y'all need to start getting it back up and running again.

• 21:19Speaker 04

  The abu gado fund?

• 21:20Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I'm not getting sued, okay? This is cautionary tales and all hypotheticals.

• 21:26Speaker 04

  That's right, allegedly.

• 21:27Laci Mosley?

  Thank you for those. I, I, I really appreciate your opinions.

• 21:29Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 21:30Laci Mosley?

  And we learned some things from the city planner.

• 21:34Speaker 04

  I did all two years of my UCLA masters, but I did not graduate.

• 21:37Laci Mosley?

  Why give up if you're that close?

• 21:40Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 21:41Laci Mosley?

  You know what? Fair enough. Cut your losses, okay? You are a brilliant comedian. We didn't need you giving that school no more coin. You learned everything you needed to know.

• 21:48Speaker 04

  You're such a supportive friend, Lacey.

• 21:50Laci Mosley?

  I mean, as are you. Oh, my goodness.

• 21:59Laci Mosley?

  Well, that brings us to my favorite segment here, Historic Hoodwings. This is where I will regale Jenny with a famous con caper group of criminals we don't know yet. And maybe we like them, maybe we hate them, maybe we laugh at them, but never at the victims. So today, we're gonna be talking about the Warren Buffett of insurance fraud.

• 22:17Speaker 04

  I live for this. I am salivating right now.

• 22:20Laci Mosley?

  So the Warren Buffett of insurance fraud stole $2 billion from his own companies, then tried to pay a state official 200 million more to stay quiet about it.

• 22:32Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 22:32Laci Mosley?

  And this is him.

• 22:33Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 22:34Laci Mosley?

  Wow.

• 22:35Speaker 04

  He looks more like a cult leader than a insurance fraudster.

• 22:38Laci Mosley?

  He looked like, like Trump cousin,

• 22:42Laci Mosley?

  who ran a meth lab.

• 22:43Speaker 04

  He's all recessive gene, just if you can't see the picture.

• 22:46Laci Mosley?

  Oh, truly.

• 22:47Speaker 04

  He's all recessive genes.

• 22:48Laci Mosley?

  It's giving brother cousin, for sure.

• 22:53Laci Mosley?

  But I will say, like, I mean, for being in jail, he managed to get that hair palmed it.

• 22:58Speaker 04

  That's true. That hair is laid well.

• 23:01Laci Mosley?

  So maybe they like him in jail.

• 23:02Speaker 04

  That is probably proof.

• 23:04Laci Mosley?

  Because I always say, like, how you show up to court kind of shows how people fuck with you in jail. Like, if your hair is done, if you got a haircut.

• 23:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:10Laci Mosley?

  Like Luigi Mangielli always be looking fresh as hell.

• 23:13Speaker 04

  I mean, he's also fine, but...

• 23:14Laci Mosley?

  He is so fine.

• 23:15Speaker 04

  But, I mean, I feel like what's this dude, he, let's think about it. What's his personality? He is a white man, white collar con, who is in prison. He's gonna be fine. He's like a, probably a fast talker. He probably, you know, tries to fit in.

• 23:30Laci Mosley?

  He has a decent head of hair.

• 23:31Speaker 04

  He has a good head of hair. So I, I bet you the,

• 23:33Laci Mosley?

  Frisage.

• 23:34Speaker 04

  The other prisoners are just like, you're, you're fine.

• 23:36Laci Mosley?

  If he's in white collar jail, yeah. They probably all playing tennis.

• 23:39Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 23:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So Greg Lindberg, he looks like a Greg. Just so forgettable.

• 23:44Speaker 04

  You know Greg's.

• 23:45Laci Mosley?

  You know Greg's.

• 23:46Speaker 04

  You know how Greg's do.

• 23:46Laci Mosley?

  Oh, hell.

• 23:47Speaker 04

  Ah. Oh, no. Here's another photo.

• 23:49Laci Mosley?

  OK, we saw him in a side profile first, y'all. Now he's, it's giving, oh, my god.

• 23:54Speaker 04

  It's very, it's very Malfoy. I don't know about that. The eyes are very Malfoy. His hair is red, but it could just easily be platinum blonde.

• 24:01Laci Mosley?

  Right. And then what is this, like, bang, he's doing? What is this?

• 24:06Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 24:07Laci Mosley?

  Oh, and why is he scowling at us?

• 24:09Speaker 04

  I don't know why he's so mean. I feel like with these types of guys, who are probably scammers, like white collar guys, they take these kind of photos where it makes them feel like they're powerful.

• 24:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 24:18Speaker 04

  But little does he know that he needs a stylist. He needs some more gay people in his life, probably.

• 24:22Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he thinks he's serving, like, CFO face. And it's like, no.

• 24:27Speaker 04

  No.

• 24:28Laci Mosley?

  The, the F in CFO is not financial, is not face. It's like, fuck. Like, that's what that F stands for. Because what the fuck? No, oh, my goodness. I feel like I'm gonna lose my soul if I keep looking at him.

• 24:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, don't stare at his eyes.

• 24:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he, he follows you around the room. Yeah, no. So, um, he was born in San Mateo, California, and attended Yale University.

• 24:50Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 24:51Laci Mosley?

  You know, like you do. While at Yale, he started a healthcare newsletter, which later became Eli Global, a conglomerate that has almost nothing to do with healthcare, that's headquartered in Durham, North Carolina.

• 25:04Speaker 04

  See, see, that's already gonna tip you off. If you're gonna name something Eli Global, that, this is how you know he's a good scammer. I mean, eventually, he became not a good scammer, because he got caught. But a good scammer will take the, the words that make you, that invoke the thing, that invoke the status, the institution. Because when I hear Eli Global, I hear Eli Lilly. That's pharmaceutical. That's pharmaceutical. And then global implies, we got reach.

• 25:30Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 25:31Speaker 04

  We are powerful. And so, that's when you know, like, that's, that's the start of a good scammer.

• 25:36Laci Mosley?

  And his name is not Eli. So it's like, who is Eli?

• 25:39Speaker 04

  Who's Eli?

• 25:40Laci Mosley?

  We're not, we're too poor to know.

• 25:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:42Laci Mosley?

  Uh, you're right. I did, that's a good one. Like, using, like, buzzwords like that in any corporate sense, they love that stuff. You know? Market share, lion's share, synergy.

• 25:53Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 25:54Laci Mosley?

  Infinite growth.

• 25:56Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 25:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 25:57Speaker 04

  I, I can't, I'm, I'm not corporate enough of an Asian to know the rest of those words.

• 26:02Laci Mosley?

  So on his personal website, Greg called William Randolph Hearst, the newspaper magnate of the earliest 20th century, who inspired the Charles Foster Kane character in the movie Citizen Kane, as one of his earliest inspirations. Now, that is a run-on sentence, so I'm gonna explain to you what I just said. Greg said that William Randolph Hearst, who was a newspaper magnate,

• 26:27Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 26:28Laci Mosley?

  was his inspiration.

• 26:30Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 26:31Laci Mosley?

  And the newspaper magnate is what Citizen Kane is inspired by.

• 26:37Speaker 04

  Right.

• 26:37Laci Mosley?

  So it's kind of diabolical. Yeah, another guy.

• 26:40Speaker 04

  Yeah. There we go.

• 26:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this makes sense.

• 26:43Speaker 04

  That's like, you know what? That's like, that's like the way these techno-fascists today, like Palantir, name, they name their companies and their inspiration off of literally the villain from like Lord of the Rings.

• 26:57Laci Mosley?

  They want to be Lex Luthor so bad.

• 26:59Speaker 04

  Exactly. They're like, they don't see it as a cautionary tale. They see that as like aspirational.

• 27:03Laci Mosley?

  And I wish that the names didn't sound so cool. I wish that the villain's names was like, well, I really aspire to be the boogeyman.

• 27:10Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 27:11Laci Mosley?

  Like, I'm trying to be everywhere, in closets, under beds.

• 27:15Speaker 04

  I know, William Randolph Hearst.

• 27:16Laci Mosley?

  Terrifying the children, taking the parents' money. Like, I want somebody to be like, yeah, Boogeyman Global.

• 27:22Speaker 04

  Exactly. But they're not gonna do that. They're smarter than that.

• 27:25Laci Mosley?

  Right. Lex Luthor does sound, you know, these sound more enticing.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  I guess.

• 27:31Laci Mosley?

  So in 2014, he started buying insurance companies and lobbying politicians to increase the amount of insurance, like company assets, that an owner could invest in. So he started buying the insurance companies. And then he was like, let me start using my money to now lobby our crooked-ass government, so that I can make sure I can get as many investors in these companies as possible. Who knows why that's not like... Uh, like legal? Probably because it's not a good idea.

• 28:00Speaker 04

  But this is what happens. You, if he comes from an elite background, is able to get into Yale. And then in Yale, he supercharges his ability to become a part of the ownership class. To be a part of the like, people who run the world. They literally t- talk to each other like, we're gonna run the world.

• 28:15Laci Mosley?

  Right. They probably, people probably put one of them cloaks on and, and you know, was getting his booty beat down in the basement.

• 28:20Speaker 04

  So this is how you show up. This is how you show up when you start a business out like that. You say, I'm gonna start a business and I'm, because I have money, I'm gonna be able to lobby, AKA buy off the right decision makers to change the rules to be favorable to me. That's how they think. And then we're out here, little peons going to public school, trying to get straight A's because we, we just gotta follow the teacher's orders.

• 28:44Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 28:44Speaker 04

  Do you understand what I'm saying?

• 28:45Laci Mosley?

  You gotta get out there and vote. No, do vote, but like.

• 28:49Speaker 04

  Rules are for suckers.

• 28:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 28:50Speaker 04

  Is what I'm saying.

• 28:51Laci Mosley?

  But if we could buy things off, you know.

• 28:53Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 28:54Laci Mosley?

  So Greg bought five, like a five million dollar mansion in the North Riley area. That was the most expensive home sold in the county.

• 29:03Speaker 04

  Okay, where's this?

• 29:04Laci Mosley?

  And this is the five million dollar mansion. This is in North Riley, Carolina.

• 29:07Speaker 04

  Oh, Carolinas.

• 29:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and at the time, the, he had the most ball in his ass house. This is the most expensive house you could get.

• 29:14Speaker 04

  It is nice. When you live at a mansion that's surrounded by enough forest to hide bodies, that's when you know you're rich.

• 29:20Laci Mosley?

  Right? That really is when you know. Because like, you cannot see, like, through those trees.

• 29:27Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 29:27Laci Mosley?

  Like, y'all bitches got, he got trees and hedges. Y'all ain't seen, he can chop the body up on the driveway. We ain't seen shit.

• 29:34Speaker 04

  Trees and hedges is wealth.

• 29:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. But also so much secrecy. Why you need trees and hedges?

• 29:39Speaker 04

  That's right, suspicious.

• 29:41Laci Mosley?

  It's very suspicious. So he bought another mansion in Durham. Which was his main residence for many years. And is equipped with both indoor and outdoor tennis courts for year-round use. He also had a vacation home in Key West and in Idaho. Who the fuck is vacationing in Idaho with the potatoes? What do you mean vacation home in Idaho? Those words should not be juxtaposed.

• 30:06Speaker 04

  I feel like when you want vacation homes in places people don't wanna go to, it's because you got something to hide.

• 30:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:13Speaker 04

  That's my feeling.

• 30:13Laci Mosley?

  I feel like that's what he was doing in Idaho at his vacation home.

• 30:17Speaker 04

  You can hide amongst the spuds.

• 30:20Speaker 04

  Because he looked like a potato himself.

• 30:22Laci Mosley?

  He does look like a potato himself.

• 30:23Speaker 04

  It's camouflage.

• 30:25Laci Mosley?

  So at the same time, he started buying more insurance companies. So he's buying homes and insurance companies. Eli Global now acquires around 30 new companies per year.

• 30:35Speaker 04

  He just got that greedy. I mean, that's greedy.

• 30:38Laci Mosley?

  It's a sickness.

• 30:39Speaker 04

  But that's the other thing, too. It's like people say, oh, American capitalism. It's all about competitive markets. When in the end, when you're that rich, your goal is to become a monopoly. It's truly the game of monopoly, like the game, the board game. That's all they want to do. They want to just dominate a sector. That's why they buy up so many companies.

• 30:57Laci Mosley?

  And that's why monopoly isn't fun. I mean, it was created by a woman, stolen from by a man. But the whole point was to show the ills of capitalism. And they're like, let's turn it into a fun game. It's like, it's not a fun game because as soon as someone has the monopoly, nobody wants to play anymore. Because what do you mean every time I land on boardwalk, I gotta clean myself out?

• 31:14Speaker 04

  Then you're the jerk. Then you're the jerk.

• 31:16Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 31:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:17Laci Mosley?

  No, it's bullshit. You know what I mean? Monopoly fights, I've been in, I still got a cut on my thigh. Like, my cousin Jermona, Jermona cut. So like, yeah, like, mm, no. So this is how it got into stealing $2 billion.

• 31:30Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 31:31Laci Mosley?

  Greg diverted more than $2 billion from the insurance companies he bought, money which was held in a trust to pay future insurance claims into loans and securities for himself. So this money was to pay future insurance claims.

• 31:44Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 31:44Laci Mosley?

  And he decided he was gonna divert it to his own loans and securities for himself. So then he went to gamble on the stock market as well.

• 31:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:53Laci Mosley?

  So he took these people's insurance money and was like, I can guarantee you won't get paid.

• 32:00Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 32:01Laci Mosley?

  If you file a claim.

• 32:01Speaker 04

  It's a little piggy bank for him.

• 32:03Laci Mosley?

  He forgave more than $125 million in loans to himself from the insurance companies he controlled.

• 32:11Speaker 04

  How can you do that? How can you? Why is there no oversight?

• 32:15Laci Mosley?

  He overseeing himself and he looked at himself and he said it was all on the up and up.

• 32:19Speaker 04

  Who's policing the police?

• 32:22Laci Mosley?

  Nobody. So between 2016 and 2019, multiple insurance companies controlled by Greg were placed in rehabilitation or liquidation. Thousands of individual policyholders and other victims were collectively still owed more than $1 billion.

• 32:38Speaker 04

  What?

• 32:39Laci Mosley?

  In one of the largest insurance frauds in US history.

• 32:45Laci Mosley?

  So he was stealing from himself, but he had acquired all these companies. And when you think about it, if you're gonna acquire a company at a value, and then know that everyone's paying in constantly, like it's kind of the best company to acquire if you want to embezzle from your own company.

• 32:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:00Laci Mosley?

  Because everybody's paying in.

• 33:01Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 33:01Laci Mosley?

  And real, and it's, insurance is a Ponzi scheme. You really don't get caught until people start calling for a payout.

• 33:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly, exactly.

• 33:08Laci Mosley?

  So, I mean, he had a great strategy here. Some victims may be paid back, at least partially, but many others died before the case was resolved.

• 33:18Speaker 04

  Oof, I know.

• 33:20Laci Mosley?

  Roughly 30,000 victims died before recovering money tied to the scheme.

• 33:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:25Laci Mosley?

  Now, my thing is, is like, if they died, can their relatives come for that money?

• 33:29Speaker 04

  I feel like you should be able to.

• 33:31Laci Mosley?

  Somebody had to pay for that fuel.

• 33:32Speaker 04

  Yes, that individual is connected to a family.

• 33:35Laci Mosley?

  Right, we didn't bury grandma loose, we got her a pine bike, somebody's run me something.

• 33:39Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 33:40Laci Mosley?

  At least the cost of a Costco cash.

• 33:41Speaker 04

  There should be a claim, there should be a claim, but what happened in this case, he, they just, the claims just died with them?

• 33:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, about 30,000 of them.

• 33:48Speaker 04

  See, that's when you know, insurance, it's a scam!

• 33:53Laci Mosley?

  Truly. I mean, do you know that you can age out of life insurance?

• 33:57Speaker 04

  Oh, when you're too old, they don't want to pay for your, your body?

• 34:00Laci Mosley?

  They, like, they'll just stop covering you.

• 34:02Speaker 04

  What?

• 34:02Laci Mosley?

  Because you live longer than they planned.

• 34:04Speaker 04

  But you just paid so much money! Okay, see, this is why, like, people are so mad, like, even after the Eaton and Palisades fires, so many people have been, been denied their, like, legitimate claims for fire insurance.

• 34:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 34:17Speaker 04

  And so, it's like, what are you even doing?

• 34:19Laci Mosley?

  And in Malibu, you can't even get insurance at a lot of places.

• 34:21Speaker 04

  Right.

• 34:21Laci Mosley?

  A lot of homes.

• 34:22Speaker 04

  No, there's like a federal thing. So, I, you know, part of me is like, it's almost like they're like, "We're gonna set up an insurance scheme so that, um, basically, the worst thing that can happen to you that would make us pay this out, we'll just wish and hope that it doesn't." And then we just sit on our, you know, as fat cats on this money.

• 34:41Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 34:42Speaker 04

  Use it as a personal piggy bank. Like that, that's how it feels.

• 34:45Laci Mosley?

  That's what it is. And that's why my insurance company hits me, like my health insurance hits me up like, oh, let's do your annual physical or like, and not like I go to the doctor, but it's like one that they want to do through the insurance company and I never do it. Cause I'm like, I know you're nefarious as fuck. You don't care about my health.

• 35:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:01Laci Mosley?

  Either way, if I do this, it's gonna be bad for me. I don't know how yet, but I know that for sure.

• 35:07Speaker 04

  But do you hear how like a hundred percent, like that's who we need, universal healthcare? Because if you have a profit motive when it comes to health, you're not showing up because you don't want to be dinged. Like you don't want to like increase your personal costs. You don't want to like have them deny you care. Like, come on.

• 35:23Laci Mosley?

  Right. Second I tell them a hoe got asthma, they gonna be like, oh, well, we had to up your rates.

• 35:27Speaker 04

  Listen, when I was 21 years old, I did start a socialist collective. So I just need you to know this is who I am.

• 35:33Laci Mosley?

  I love this. I love this. Look at all these gems just seeping out. Okay. I'm joining Jenny's cult.

• 35:37Speaker 04

  No, you didn't even know these things.

• 35:39Laci Mosley?

  She has a great pizza maker and that's honestly all I needed. It was her and her husband's pizza maker for me to join the cult.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 35:44Laci Mosley?

  I'm there. I'm in there like swimwear. So one victim of Greg's couldn't pay for her murdered son's funeral.

• 35:52Speaker 04

  See.

• 35:53Laci Mosley?

  Another family lost access to more than $600,000 in savings while their daughter underwent cancer treatments. But Greg needed the money himself, cause he had big plans.

• 36:06Speaker 04

  For what?

• 36:07Laci Mosley?

  I mean, listen, Greg needed the money more than these, these grieving families.

• 36:13Speaker 04

  Cause he needs to like, what? Invest in sunscreen? Cause he's so pale? Does he need to color his red hair to be even redder?

• 36:22Laci Mosley?

  What does he need? What does he need? Cause he's got a river of money. His ex-wife, Tisha, refer, I was gonna say Tisha, but I was like, ain't no way she's Tisha.

• 36:31Speaker 04

  I felt that. I felt that coming from you too.

• 36:34Laci Mosley?

  I was like, ain't no way she a Tisha. Not with this man, okay? But she could be a Tisha, cause you know, there's a, there's a joke of, uh, close your ears if you, I'm playing, y'all can listen, but don't, don't be trying to tell the joke. But, uh, you know, the black community, we talk about how like, if there's like a black woman, like in an expensive place with like a really, really bad wig, she's most likely with like the super richest white dude. Like all you have to do to get a rich old white dude is just wear like the stiffest wig you got and go to a hotel, a nice hotel bar and then whoop bam. Next thing you know, you're in the Maldives.

• 37:05Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 37:06Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 37:06Speaker 04

  It's a stereotype, but you know, sometimes stereotypes have little

• 37:09Laci Mosley?

  Listen, hard wigs, soft life. That's what they're saying.

• 37:14Laci Mosley?

  So, his ex-wife, Tisha, referred to his spending as a river of money that flowed through his more than 300 personal companies. The couple's home in Durham was regularly staffed with tennis and martial arts trainers, nannies, and security personnel, each making tens of thousands of dollars per year, according to court documents.

• 37:36Speaker 04

  Martial arts trainer? What does this white man gotta do with a martial arts trainer?

• 37:41Laci Mosley?

  This one, you know, you got too much money.

• 37:42Speaker 04

  This is, see, this is when, this is when I need to be a better scammer, because I need to just use, use this round Asian face and just tell people I could teach them Kung-Fu.

• 37:50Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, you could definitely.

• 37:51Speaker 04

  I need to make that money.

• 37:52Laci Mosley?

  Come on, Mrs. Miyake.

• 37:57Speaker 04

  Martial arts training.

• 37:58Laci Mosley?

  Go to the pet store, get a few grasshoppers, you know, that's the, that's the end of the, of the retreats. They gotta grab the grasshopper. If they don't, they gotta go back to level one and pay again.

• 38:09Speaker 04

  What kind, what kind of Kung-Fu you trying to do in Durham, North Carolina? I'm asking for you, North Carolinans.

• 38:15Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you know, these Kung-Fu instructors are not Asian.

• 38:20Speaker 04

  Scammin' ass instructors.

• 38:21Laci Mosley?

  I don't even know why you thought that, okay? This is Sensei Tom, okay?

• 38:28Speaker 04

  Not Sensei Tom.

• 38:33Speaker 04

  Thank you, Sensei Chad.

• 38:37Laci Mosley?

  They ain't never seen.

• 38:38Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 38:39Laci Mosley?

  The couple's lifestyle was so extravagant that in their separation, Lindenberg was ordered to pay $60,000 a month in child support, Lindenberg is Greg, 60K in month, in a month, in child support for his three children. So, when they split up, she got 60K for the three kids. That's 20K a child a month.

• 39:00Speaker 04

  I mean, fair.

• 39:02Laci Mosley?

  Look, they gotta keep up their lifestyle. Somebody's gotta pay the martial arts trainer.

• 39:09Laci Mosley?

  And like, okay, I like that Tisha got out of here, though. She did get divorced.

• 39:13Speaker 04

  Good.

• 39:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so she, I think she saw the river was just flowing a little too fast.

• 39:18Speaker 04

  That's right, Mackenzie Bezos that shit.

• 39:20Laci Mosley?

  Right, she was next to denial, but she wasn't in denial.

• 39:22Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 39:23Laci Mosley?

  Okay, she was like, let me, let me get what I can get, cuz I know we doing crime. We.

• 39:30Speaker 04

  I don't know anything, but I do know this smells shady.

• 39:32Laci Mosley?

  Right. So after the divorce in 2019, Greg used about $30 million of stolen money on private jets. $21 million in connection with various women. Okay, $21 million? Shout out to the house, okay?

• 39:51Speaker 04

  That is a good per capita kind of a bill, okay?

• 39:54Laci Mosley?

  $21 million?

• 39:56Speaker 04

  Divided by how many?

• 39:57Laci Mosley?

  Uh, we don't know, it says various.

• 39:59Speaker 04

  Various is five, let's say five.

• 40:01Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 40:02Speaker 04

  $21 million across five, that's about $4 million, change, per, per, per ho.

• 40:08Laci Mosley?

  Better put that coochie to good work, okay?

• 40:11Speaker 04

  Good work.

• 40:12Laci Mosley?

  And look, there's only so much honey, horny honey grid can suck on, I bet you it was pretty cushy gig. Probably just played a lot of doubles tennis.

• 40:20Speaker 04

  And just wearing tight dresses, that's it.

• 40:22Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:23Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:23Laci Mosley?

  He also spent $12 million on yacht expenses, you know how you have to do your yacht expenses. And this was including boat trips to Ibiza. That's where we know them various women came from. There's a lot of baddies in Ibiza, okay, and they will get on your boat.

• 40:37Speaker 04

  That's right, they love an international water cruise.

• 40:41Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah.

• 40:41Speaker 04

  You know, there's no rules in international waters.

• 40:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and that's not why they're doing it, it's just like a bonus. It's an added bonus.

• 40:49Speaker 04

  What kind of life is this Greg trying to live? I don't understand, this is what I don't understand, rich people sometimes, even fake rich people. It's like, how much relaxation and luxury can you really, can you really stand?

• 41:04Laci Mosley?

  I think it gets boring after a while, and also you have to remember that one sure, I kind of think about it like I think about my age bracket. When I turned 30, all of a sudden I never, I didn't know anybody in their twenties.

• 41:16Speaker 04

  Right.

• 41:16Laci Mosley?

  Like, I do not know anybody in their twenties, other than my little sister.

• 41:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:19Laci Mosley?

  And when my little sister moved here to go to college, I was, I was going to Ireland to shoot, and I was like, kind of like panicked, cuz I only really had like a month to help her get settled in before I was gonna disappear for four months. So I was like, I gotta find her some like, young, like, friends in their twenties who's popping, and then I sat, and I thought... Thought about it really hard. I was like, I don't know anyone below the age of 29.

• 41:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, listen, it happens.

• 41:45Laci Mosley?

  And that's how it goes with billionaires. Like, eventually, you don't know anybody who remembers what a bill looks like.

• 41:52Speaker 04

  It's true.

• 41:53Laci Mosley?

  And has even held one in their hand.

• 41:55Speaker 04

  But that's why they get so bored. Because you can only luxuriate and stimulate yourself so much. Like, you know, I have a lot of friends who are either chefs or food writers. I have a friend who traveled the world for 50 best bars, drinking the finest in cocktails. And they are out here, they will experience palate fatigue. It's called palate fatigue.

• 42:16Laci Mosley?

  When your mouth had too much good stuff.

• 42:17Speaker 04

  Exactly. It starts to taste the same and you just get desensitized. So I need these rich people to stop stealing from the rest of us, hoarding all that wealth, hoarding all that dopamine, and just spread it around.

• 42:31Laci Mosley?

  Because it's not making you happy. And I don't understand why, if you're poor, it's hoarding, but when you're rich, it's like an accomplishment.

• 42:38Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 42:38Laci Mosley?

  Like, you don't need all that money, just like homegirl on TLC don't need all them tchotchkes. Y'all both don't need either of all of those things. But now it's something to impress your weird-ass friends. That's why you got people like Harlan Crowe, who collects, that's Harlan Crowe is Clarence Thomas's sugar daddy.

• 42:55Speaker 04

  Oh, that's right, that's right.

• 42:56Laci Mosley?

  The Nazi enthusiast who loves to collect Nazi memorabilia, slave memorabilia.

• 43:00Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 43:00Laci Mosley?

  And then he brings people over to his house to look at old spoons and shit. I'm like, how fucking dull are you that your personality has to be collecting things that only have value because you're boring-ass attributed to have value?

• 43:12Speaker 04

  Well, and also that you have to pay people to come look at your spoons.

• 43:15Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 43:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:22Laci Mosley?

  So, according to Greg's own notes, his crimes were meant to help him grow his network into the tens of billions of dollars, and fund a harem of beautiful girlfriends and luxury vehicles. Oh, also, build a media empire. And, oh, oh, he also wanted to create Valhalla on Earth.

• 43:42Speaker 04

  The, see?

• 43:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh, and he wanted to fund research to extend human life. Not all humans, just the rich ones.

• 43:51Speaker 04

  Just him. This is the problem. When rich people become so out of touch, they think they're gods. They want to live as a god.

• 43:58Laci Mosley?

  I don't want to wish evil on anybody, but I do think that when certain ultra-rich people get diseases, it does benefit society. I'm not even lying, because when one of the Koch brothers had pancreatic cancer, do you know how far he took pancreatic cancer research? Because he was throwing so much money at it.

• 44:15Speaker 04

  Right, right.

• 44:15Laci Mosley?

  And then everybody else got to benefit from that.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 44:18Laci Mosley?

  So you know what? You can be a billionaire, but you need to get a rare incurable disease so that we can finally get somebody to work on it.

• 44:24Speaker 04

  That's right, and share the results of that. Because some people, they'll hoard the knowledge, too.

• 44:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 44:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but we need to know. We need to know what you're up to.

• 44:35Laci Mosley?

  Valhalla on Earth is so strange. Like, this is how you know you have too much money. You're left alone with your thoughts too much. Like, there's nobody around you who's like, "Bro, what you talking about? Are you high?" Like, I feel like there's nobody in his life who's ever like, "Are you high, bro?"

• 44:46Speaker 04

  He doesn't want to die. And that's why we need to make friends with death.

• 44:50Laci Mosley?

  Ooh.

• 44:52Laci Mosley?

  Wow.

• 44:53Speaker 04

  I'm saying, this is spiritually and emotionally.

• 44:56Laci Mosley?

  I'm not about to be homies with death.

• 44:57Speaker 04

  No, it's more-

• 44:58Laci Mosley?

  I'm about to have the most embarrassing death you've ever seen, Jenny. When I die, I'm going out kicking and screaming. It's not gonna be, hopefully it's peacefully in my bed. But like, there will not be a dignified death. I'm not gonna be like, "I'm ready to go. I love you." No, I'm like, "Get away from me, angels! Step off, Jesus!"

• 45:14Speaker 04

  But for me, it's more about like, I want to live my life knowing that it might not be tomorrow, you know?

• 45:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 45:22Speaker 04

  And so, I feel like spiritually, that helps me.

• 45:24Laci Mosley?

  Now, I will say, I do think about death every day.

• 45:26Speaker 04

  Same.

• 45:27Laci Mosley?

  So that does help me and also depress me. I wake up in the morning, and I'm like, "Whew, we made-"

• 45:33Speaker 04

  We are comedians.

• 45:35Laci Mosley?

  Right. I read a statistic once that was like, "You're more likely to die before 11 a.m." So I was like, "Whew, made it past 11 a.m.! We out here." We out here, we out here. You ain't taking me today.

• 45:44Speaker 04

  And you gotta get through like winter holidays. You just gotta get.

• 45:49Laci Mosley?

  That's a big death doozy is the winter holidays.

• 45:52Speaker 04

  That's right. So this man needs to just make friends with death.

• 45:54Laci Mosley?

  Well, unfortunately for you, Jenny, uh, he trying to live forever.

• 45:59Speaker 04

  He still alive?

• 46:00Laci Mosley?

  Overall, Greg aimed at having a hundred billion dollar net worth and the ability to live to a hundred and twenty years old. A December twenty twenty four report by Bloomberg News said that Greg sought to father as many as fifty children.

• 46:13Speaker 04

  Is he Elon Musk? What is happening? Do they all have the same playbook?

• 46:17Laci Mosley?

  Or they're on, they got the same ketamine dealer.

• 46:19Speaker 04

  Look at him.

• 46:21Laci Mosley?

  Cause they all seem like they been in the same K-hole. Like they ran into each other and they're like Elon.

• 46:26Speaker 04

  These photos of these weird billionaires, they either look like they're on uppers or downers. What is happening?

• 46:33Laci Mosley?

  Also, I'm sorry, if you have that much money, you can't be ugly. Like, how are you ugly when you have this much money?

• 46:39Speaker 04

  It's so upsetting when his hair looks like a nineties sitcom kid.

• 46:42Laci Mosley?

  Cause you know the saying, like, you're not ugly, you're just poor. You know what I mean? Like, so if, if you, like, why are you still ugly, sir?

• 46:50Speaker 04

  If you can't see his, his, his hair, it basically looks like a redhead bowl cut, but he just brushed it back.

• 46:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like he brushed it back and then he put the bowl on.

• 47:00Speaker 04

  It looks like a mushroom cap.

• 47:02Laci Mosley?

  It does look like a mushroom cap, which I'm sure he's also on.

• 47:09Laci Mosley?

  So Greg wanted fifty children. So he said, Nick, can you hold my?

• 47:12Speaker 04

  Hold my beer?

• 47:13Laci Mosley?

  Hold my beer.

• 47:15Speaker 04

  Hold my GLP-1 peptides.

• 47:17Laci Mosley?

  Right, cause I'm coming for it. And so through, like, he wanted to do this through a sprawling network of egg donors and surrogates. So also, he wanted to borrow women's wombs for those genetics. Those genetics should not procreate, bro. Like, it's how to end with you.

• 47:32Speaker 04

  I am so mad. This is where I get my, like, fucking Marxist rage coming out because this motherfucker, he is out here trying to repopulate the earth like he's Genghis Khan. And then, and he's rigging the economy so that regular, everyday folks are so depressed and have no hope for the future. No one's having babies. But he's out here trying to repopulate. I do not want to live on this island with him.

• 47:55Laci Mosley?

  No, not at all. Also, your genetics aren't giving, sir. We do not need more of you. We don't.

• 48:02Speaker 04

  This is when I become a total like genetic genetic supremacist. I just become just like, I hate your recessive genes, sir. Greg, what is his last name?

• 48:11Laci Mosley?

  What, uh, oh, uh, what is it?

• 48:13Speaker 04

  Lindenberg.

• 48:14Laci Mosley?

  Lind, Lind, Lindberg.

• 48:14Speaker 04

  His last name sounds like a cheese. I do not want

• 48:17Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 48:18Speaker 04

  Be men with last names that sound like stinky cheeses.

• 48:21Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:22Speaker 04

  To populate the earth. No, thank you.

• 48:25Laci Mosley?

  And he was specifically pursuing, to your point, women with blonde hair and blue eyes.

• 48:30Speaker 04

  So he is a supremacist.

• 48:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he was looking for Aryan. He was looking for Aryans. Which is so recessive that it's very rare to find adults who have naturally blonde hair. Like, they have it as children, and some adults grow up and continue to have it, but it usually turns. But like, the whole Aryan thing, sir, please, we've already proven that there's no supreme race. And if there was, it definitely ain't the Aryans.

• 48:56Speaker 04

  Bro, the sun can kill y'all. Be for real.

• 49:02Speaker 04

  SPF.

• 49:03Laci Mosley?

  Right, I ain't say nobody, I ain't say, I'm saying nobody's superior, but I'm saying if they was gonna try to rank. I just feel like Aryan, y'all got the sun gonna hurt your eye, your hair, your skin, you know, I don't know if it's y'all.

• 49:14Speaker 04

  Gun to my head, I'm ranking. Gun to my head, I'm ranking.

• 49:18Laci Mosley?

  So Bloomberg reported that at least 25 women were tied to the operation, with some alleged that they were manipulated or decei- alleged that they were manipulated or deceived into donating eggs that Lindberg, Greg, used after being told they would go to an anonymous infertile couple.

• 49:38Speaker 04

  He just scams on every level.

• 49:40Laci Mosley?

  So you ain't even pay these women for they, for they eggs?

• 49:43Speaker 04

  He is using people's goodwill and desire to help others. He's abusing, he's manipulating them.

• 49:50Laci Mosley?

  Truly, I mean, that's what stores do to us when they be like, do you wanna donate to this charity? Am I gonna get the write-off, or are you?

• 49:56Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 49:56Laci Mosley?

  Go away. So. But do note, donate to the charity. There's some charities that, you know.

• 50:02Speaker 04

  Go direct, go direct.

• 50:03Laci Mosley?

  If you see like Trevor Project pop up a lot on the screen, go ahead and donate to Trevor yourself. Okay? You know what I mean? You see St. Jude's, go ahead and donate to them babies yourself on the website. But you don't need to do it at Walgreens.

• 50:12Speaker 04

  Greg, Greg really was like, donate to the, to the cause and the cause is me.

• 50:16Laci Mosley?

  So Greg, who has 12 children, spent lavishly to recruit women through yacht parties. Not the yacht girls. Oh no. Matchmaking services, we know what those are. And luxury events while operating a surveillance apparatus that conducted background checks and monitoring on prospective romantic partners.

• 50:38Speaker 04

  Can I just tell you right now? What you just described in a nutshell is the kind of world that these billionaires are forcing on the rest of us.

• 50:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 50:48Speaker 04

  Think about that, what you just, the surveillance, the, the transactionalness of humanity.

• 50:55Laci Mosley?

  The children.

• 50:56Speaker 04

  The children, they.

• 50:57Laci Mosley?

  Tricking women out of their rooms.

• 50:59Speaker 04

  This is, this is why they are taking over the world right now and they're just shoving AI down our throats. The surveillance state down our throats. They just want to make everything that. Whatever that is, the most bleak, the most bleak vision of humanity right there. They want to impose that on the rest of us and I hate it. I hate it.

• 51:17Laci Mosley?

  Because I mean, I, I like to think about it in like terms of either airlines or even like fast food chains. Like once Spirit Airlines and other low budget airlines joined the game and started, and now their low, their low pricing was still like dynamic pricing, it was like, you, yeah, you get a cheap ticket, but when you get to the airport, they're gonna nickel and dime you. Right? So it might end up being like a layaway for a flight. You might end up paying what you would have paid upfront for, you know, like a Delta or an American Airlines or whatever like that, right? That's not, not a budget airline.

• 51:44Speaker 04

  Right.

• 51:45Laci Mosley?

  But when Spirit started doing that, people started flying, Delta immediately looked at Spirit and was like, oh, these people will take anything to get in the sky. Why are we providing amenities?

• 51:56Speaker 04

  Right.

• 51:56Laci Mosley?

  Like.

• 51:56Speaker 04

  We need to upcharge people.

• 51:58Laci Mosley?

  Like they're not even, Delta not gonna give you a Biscoff cookie if you flying under three hours. Like if you flying from LAX to SFO, they say you can't get a Biscoff no more. They ain't gonna give you a drink either.

• 52:08Speaker 04

  Is that the world we want to live in?

• 52:09Laci Mosley?

  Better wet your own whistle. I remember you could be in coach when I was a kid and get a hot meal.

• 52:14Speaker 04

  I remember this too.

• 52:15Laci Mosley?

  Right. Then they said, no, y'all second class citizens, okay? We gonna strap you two to the back.

• 52:20Speaker 04

  We won't even give you a dry ass cookie.

• 52:22Laci Mosley?

  Right. You want a seatbelt, that's extra. So Greg denied wrongdoing. Because remember, there's like 25 women who came out and were like, we been bamboozled, led astray. Like, we hate you. He denied wrongdoing and later sued Bloomberg's reporters for defamation. That lawsuit was dismissed in 2025. I'm sorry, I love that y'all love to sue for defamation when you're rich because they told the truth about you. Like, that's not defamation, baby. Stop saying things I don't want people to know.

• 52:48Speaker 04

  That's right. It's truthful, though. Oh, well, sorry.

• 52:51Laci Mosley?

  Right. So bribes. When North Carolina insurance regulators started poking around, Greg tried to bribe the state commissioner of insurance, Mike Causey, with $200 million to stop interfering. Between April 2017 and August 2018, Greg and others funneled millions of dollars in campaign contributions and other benefits to North Carolina's insurance commissioner, with the explicit goal of having senior deputy commissioner removed. So remember, they tried to bribe the other one. He wasn't taking the bribe. So now, like billionaires do, they're getting involved in politics. So that they can get their Spencer Pratt into office.

• 53:29Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 53:29Laci Mosley?

  So that they can have their, you know, criminal loser, empty-headed, you know,

• 53:34Speaker 04

  Right.

• 53:35Laci Mosley?

  puppet, like you said. So, yeah, that official had been responsible for regulating Greg's insurance. Right, so they're like, we gotta get him out of here because he actually trying to do his job in the government. And like, how dare he? We're rich. What you mean, you trying to do your employments?

• 53:47Speaker 04

  You mean, I can't get what I want?

• 53:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 53:49Speaker 04

  How?

• 53:49Laci Mosley?

  Also, like, you're an idiot for trying to bribe somebody with $200 million. How would that man in politics, under heavy scrutiny, ever be able to explain a windfall of $200 million?

• 53:59Speaker 04

  Doesn't make sense.

• 54:00Laci Mosley?

  No, he was gonna go to jail. So, a memoir.

• 54:03Speaker 04

  Okay, he wrote a memoir?

• 54:05Laci Mosley?

  I mean,

• 54:05Speaker 04

  Oh, Lord.

• 54:06Laci Mosley?

  Greg and three others were indicted on bribery charges in 2019. He was convicted and sentenced to seven years in prison.

• 54:13Speaker 04

  That's it?

• 54:14Laci Mosley?

  Two years into his sentence, a judge overturned his conviction and he was released and granted a retrial.

• 54:22Speaker 04

  I'm about to flip this table.

• 54:24Laci Mosley?

  Who was that judge? How much money did they get? You're gonna flip this whole massive table.

• 54:30Speaker 04

  I'm gonna flip this mounted in-ground table.

• 54:33Laci Mosley?

  So, you know, after he did his bit, he wrote a memoir called 633 Days in Thigh.

• 54:40Speaker 04

  Stop it. Is he making himself a victim?

• 54:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And he started making YouTube videos on self-help and dieting techniques. We got one of his YouTube videos right here.

• 54:50Speaker 04

  Stop it.

• 54:56Laci Mosley?

  I don't know about self-help, but he know how to help himself to your money.

• 54:58Speaker 04

  A simple technique, if you're facing a grave threat, start fasting.

• 55:02Speaker 05

  Going to prison is the unknown. You're afraid of everything in prison. And the summer of 2021, I started fasting.

• 55:09Laci Mosley?

  His hair looks a little better here.

• 55:11Speaker 05

  As of 6:00 PM tonight, I've done 51 fasts of over 90 hours in a row. Every week, or 51 weeks.

• 55:17Laci Mosley?

  So a eating disorder.

• 55:18Speaker 04

  Wait, can you pause it real quick? There is a, there is a little note on the bottom as he's talking that says, "As I share my experiences with intermittent fasting and theories on quantum physics." What? He's a quantum physicist now? "I acknowledge that I am not a medical professional and that one should always consult with a physician before undertaking intermittent fasting and making other drastic changes to their diet and lifestyle." You're talking about quantum physics!

• 55:44Laci Mosley?

  What does that have to do with starving yourself?

• 55:47Speaker 04

  What is that?

• 55:48Laci Mosley?

  Like, it's so wild to me. Like, I think that's one of the biggest scams about, and I hate this for men, but this is the prison that they put themselves in, is like, ED is not recognized in men like it is in women. And like, with men, like, it's like those bros who are like, eating boiled chicken and talking about gains, baby. That is, that is disordered eating.

• 56:10Speaker 04

  100%.

• 56:11Laci Mosley?

  And I know that some people intermittent fast, but it usually means like they'll like, eat during a certain part of the day and that's all, which I still think is a little eh.

• 56:19Speaker 04

  I know.

• 56:20Laci Mosley?

  But at least they're eating meals. But he's talking about starving himself.

• 56:25Speaker 04

  And quantum physics.

• 56:27Laci Mosley?

  Because you know how they work together.

• 56:28Speaker 04

  I'm good.

• 56:29Laci Mosley?

  So we're good on that video. I feel like his spirit gonna jump out of the screen or something. So he was convicted again on the same bribery charge in 2024.

• 56:41Speaker 04

  His rap sheet doesn't end. It is a CVS receipt.

• 56:43Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And in 2026, he was convicted of fraud and money laundering for the $2 billion insurance scheme. So in 2024, it was just another bribery. He said bribery worked out so well, I went to prison. Let me do it again. Sir, bribing didn't work for you the first time. Why would you get out and bribe again?

• 57:01Speaker 04

  He's it's pathological. There's no rehabilitating him.

• 57:03Laci Mosley?

  And there's the ego of it all. Once you get a certain amount of money, you think nothing is off limits, out of reach, out of touch. You think you can treat people any kind of way and you think you're above the law and you can just buy the law. And in a lot of cases, they do and can.

• 57:16Speaker 04

  He's probably a terrible lay.

• 57:18Laci Mosley?

  Oh, for sure. For sure.

• 57:20Speaker 04

  Not that I'm thinking about it, but like for him to have 12 babies, oh.

• 57:24Laci Mosley?

  Well, we don't know how many are like.

• 57:26Speaker 04

  In vitro or whatever. You're right.

• 57:28Laci Mosley?

  But but also like, he just doesn't seem like he's good at quite literally anything.

• 57:33Speaker 04

  I know.

• 57:33Laci Mosley?

  And if he ain't eating all the time, how he got energy to bone? Definitely not.

• 57:38Speaker 04

  Valhalla. He wants a harem. This is ridiculous.

• 57:40Laci Mosley?

  Sir, and who are you to think you deserve anybody's coochie? Like, sir, be so for real. So letters from his supporters.

• 57:48Speaker 04

  Yeah. He has supporters? Well, he did have 794 subscribers to his YouTube channel.

• 57:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So so he at least has 795 supporters. Global.

• 57:59Speaker 04

  You rounded up. That's very generous.

• 58:00Laci Mosley?

  Don't forget the global, Eli global. So he has some letters of supporters at his fraud sentencing. Greg submitted letters from these people in hopes, in hopes for leniency. Former inmates who knew him from prison wrote letters on his behalf. Not the inmates. Now, I don't know. I don't know what weight an inmate letter is gonna hold.

• 58:24Speaker 04

  You know how much those fellow inmate letters have pull?

• 58:27Laci Mosley?

  Right. It's me, Johnny Three Stabs, and I think Greg is a great guy. Like, I don't know.

• 58:34Speaker 04

  Who's Johnny Three Stabs?

• 58:36Laci Mosley?

  It only take him three steps, okay?

• 58:40Laci Mosley?

  But he knows Greg is a good guy.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  Is that is that like a thing to brag about? That you could kill someone in three steps? I feel like that's like Johnny One Take for actors.

• 58:53Laci Mosley?

  So he also had an ex-drug dealer named Willie Cologne, who wrote him a letter. And Greg, and he said, they said that Greg helped him and other prisoners learn financial and life skills needed to turn their lives around after they were released.

• 59:10Speaker 04

  Listen, this is, this is 100%. I see the picture of this man. He did his whole YouTube channel to be about wellness and self-help. Because he is a malignant narcissist who believes that he is the answer for everything. And he's a white man, so he's showing up in prison, and he's just like white-manning his way into becoming a guru for Willie Cologne.

• 59:31Laci Mosley?

  I do kind of love that he never stopped.

• 59:32Speaker 04

  He never stopped.

• 59:33Laci Mosley?

  He was like, prison's not gonna stop me from drifting. But also, something I really wish that people could get out of their heads is that having wealth, or hoarding wealth, equals intelligence. A lot of rich people are not smart.

• 59:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, people have this weird myth behind them.

• 59:51Laci Mosley?

  Let it go. Okay, I don't need advi- like, listen, will I tell you who I'm voting for? Yes. Am I pretty savvy in politics? Absolutely. Am I a politician? No.

• 1:00:01Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:00:02Laci Mosley?

  But like, at the same time, like, I think I have a very smart genius brain when it comes to comedy and things that I do. Now, am I gonna walk into your OR and perform open-heart surgery on you?

• 1:00:12Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:00:12Laci Mosley?

  No!

• 1:00:13Speaker 04

  No, I'd rather you not.

• 1:00:14Laci Mosley?

  Right, like, well, I don't understand this all-around genius thing when people amass a bunch of money. It's like, no, they're too smart for that. And also, you're calling yourself dumb for not having as much money as they do. When really, it's probably that you weren't born with it, or you're not a murderer.

• 1:00:27Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:00:27Laci Mosley?

  Because you have to do one, two, or both. So, after they were released, he said that he put them on to all of the financial stuff that they needed. It sounded like I learned how to be better criminals in prison. Although, I'm not really taking financial advice from somebody who's in prison for financial crimes. At this time, he was only in there for bribery.

• 1:00:44Speaker 04

  Honestly, he's just teaching them, like, sort of rich, white people culture. That is value, that is value.

• 1:00:50Laci Mosley?

  I would take the course.

• 1:00:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

• 1:00:51Laci Mosley?

  I would take the course.

• 1:00:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:53Laci Mosley?

  So with four years and jail time credit, he will be released in 2034, after he serves eight years. And then he will be 63 when he gets out. So still fairly young enough to continue doing crime.

• 1:01:05Speaker 04

  I mean, we got Nancy Pelosi, Trump out here getting well into their 90s, just hanging on for dear life. They do not want to retire.

• 1:01:13Laci Mosley?

  Because they got that good government healthcare they won't give you.

• 1:01:16Speaker 04

  This man is, this man has two to three more decades.

• 1:01:19Laci Mosley?

  Ugh. So, of course Greg is seeking a pardon from Trump. Oh my god, of course! Who has recently pardoned other white collar criminals, including one of the people involved in Greg's separate bribery case from the North Carolina Republican chairman. So remember they tried to bribe the chairman?

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:01:35Laci Mosley?

  So, his homie who tried to bribe the chairman got a pardon from Trump. So he was like, "Me next, I'm next in line. I also did a bribery and would like to be released from prison. Let me out with the January Sixers." So, Jenny, what are your thoughts about Greg's overall scheme here? So we had, he, he bought up all these insurance companies. Then he siphoned all the money out of them and he's playing with it on the stock market and he was paying loans. He got some baller houses. He, he did have a wife who he was treating very nice. Well, with money.

• 1:02:05Speaker 04

  We don't know how he treated his wife.

• 1:02:06Laci Mosley?

  He tricked a bunch of women into donating eggs, which you should get paid for that babes. Don't ever give up an egg for free, okay? There's plenty of people who pay for that egg if it's like, you know, in the right age bracket.

• 1:02:15Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:02:16Laci Mosley?

  And also, I'm not sticking hormones into my body to juice up my ovulation to give away my egg for free.

• 1:02:21Speaker 04

  To some random ass Greg?

• 1:02:22Laci Mosley?

  Hell no. But they thought it was going to adoptive families.

• 1:02:25Speaker 04

  Can I just say?

• 1:02:26Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:26Speaker 04

  I have not enjoyed any of his, his schemes. His schemes weren't even creative or fun. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, his schemes are just so boring. It's so just like, I need to feel like a powerful big man of the universe. Master of the universe. And I'm over it. Because I've, I've spent the last 15 years looking at news about men like this.

• 1:02:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. It feels like he had like, all of the billionaires' crimes or weird, you know, gross quirks, like on a Pinterest board. And then that was like, how he, he copied his personality.

• 1:03:01Speaker 04

  Yes. Because none of this- He copied and pasted.

• 1:03:03Laci Mosley?

  Like, he, he's not collecting anything weird. He's just doing the yachts, the Ibiza, the Elon, get everybody pregnant. You know, like, he's not, there's nothing original about anything that he's doing.

• 1:03:14Speaker 04

  Nothing original. Listen- And if there was, it didn't get, it didn't see the light of day, so who knows? But it's a real copy and paste Epstein class thing and, and I'm over it.

• 1:03:23Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, Greg, I'm disappointed that you didn't give us more razzle dazzle.

• 1:03:26Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:03:27Laci Mosley?

  None of these purchases are interesting. You didn't do anything that we haven't seen before. You're dry, you're boring, your hair is weird. We've seen you before. Boo boo, tomato, tomato. You're not even fun to listen to as a fucking scam. Cause what was, what, what did you do that we haven't seen done before?

• 1:03:42Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:03:43Laci Mosley?

  Fucking mediocre scammer.

• 1:03:44Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:03:45Laci Mosley?

  Mediocre.

• 1:03:47Speaker 04

  Mediocre. Yeah, this guy didn't even think to like become a wellness guru bad enough and grifty enough to like start his own goop.

• 1:03:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:58Speaker 04

  Start your own goop.

• 1:03:59Laci Mosley?

  He has no followers. He had what, seven, a little over seven?

• 1:04:01Speaker 04

  Seven hundred ninety-four.

• 1:04:02Laci Mosley?

  Seven hundred ninety-four followers. YouTube subscribers.

• 1:04:05Speaker 04

  I barely do my YouTube and I have more than that.

• 1:04:08Laci Mosley?

  Talking about intermittent fasting, like it's something he made up. You didn't make that up when you went to jail, Bookie.

• 1:04:16Speaker 04

  It's called, you didn't like the food, so you probably didn't eat it.

• 1:04:19Laci Mosley?

  Right, like, I'm sorry, like, how you go invent?

• 1:04:22Speaker 04

  Boo. There's no original.

• 1:04:24Laci Mosley?

  Boo this man.

• 1:04:25Speaker 04

  There's no innovation, there's no originality, alright? It's boring.

• 1:04:30Laci Mosley?

  Like, give us something, loser. Alright, well, it's time to move on to the last segment here before I let Jenny go. We're gonna do scammer of the week.

• 1:04:37Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 1:04:38Laci Mosley?

  This is where we highlight a charlatan that may or may not be worthy of our parades. Hopefully, they're doing something more interesting than Greg's old boring ass. A Chinese-born climate activist named Shang Li Sophia Luo. Wait, how do you say?

• 1:04:54Speaker 04

  L U O.

• 1:04:54Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:04:55Speaker 04

  Luo, Luo.

• 1:04:56Laci Mosley?

  So Shang Li Sophia Luo was trying to sex blackmail Milwaukee Bucks co-owner Wes Edens. So this is our Sophia right here.

• 1:05:06Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:05:07Laci Mosley?

  She's a baddie.

• 1:05:07Speaker 04

  Okay, yeah.

• 1:05:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:08Speaker 04

  Look at those high heels.

• 1:05:10Laci Mosley?

  Look at those legs.

• 1:05:10Speaker 04

  The legs, the hair, okay, the nose job, I see it from afar.

• 1:05:14Laci Mosley?

  I do see it from afar. She's eating, and so she was trying to blackmail this guy, Wes Eden. And he looks like blackmail-able. And also, like, he has more money than he knows what to do with and is drinking way too much bourbon, cause baby, your face is bloated.

• 1:05:30Speaker 04

  It's Milwaukee, listen, my guy, my, my partner is from Milwaukee. He's a white man from Milwaukee, and for them, they're what?

• 1:05:37Laci Mosley?

  We can't do that to all the Milwaukeeans.

• 1:05:40Speaker 04

  White culture is alcoholism over there.

• 1:05:41Laci Mosley?

  Milwaukeeans, right in, y'all got some sexy people over there?

• 1:05:44Speaker 04

  Wisconsin culture is alcoholism.

• 1:05:46Laci Mosley?

  Is that a shadow on his hand? Or do he got the Trump hand?

• 1:05:49Speaker 04

  Oh, no, that's a shadow on his hand.

• 1:05:50Laci Mosley?

  Oh, OK. I was like, you need to see about that.

• 1:05:52Speaker 04

  So he got scam. He looks very scamable.

• 1:05:55Laci Mosley?

  He does.

• 1:05:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:56Laci Mosley?

  And so she tried to do this with AI images after their one night stand. Then she discovered she contracted an STD and demanded more money.

• 1:06:07Speaker 04

  Yo.

• 1:06:07Laci Mosley?

  Which is when the plan unraveled.

• 1:06:09Speaker 04

  OK.

• 1:06:10Laci Mosley?

  So Sophia, 46, OK, at least he hunching on age appropriate women.

• 1:06:14Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:06:15Laci Mosley?

  She's 46 and she runs the New York based nonprofit One World Initiative Advocacy. I don't know what that means, but if I was running a scammy nonprofit, that's a great name. One world, they're doing a global thing again. One world, OK? Initiative, that means we trying. We putting forth initiative. Advocacy, we are speaking for the people that we are initiating around the world. Help for.

• 1:06:44Speaker 04

  Do you remember those magnetic poetry kits you put on your refrigerator? It sounds like she came up with the name with like a magnetic poetry kit.

• 1:06:52Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:06:53Speaker 04

  She just moved some words around.

• 1:06:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. One, so they know we all together. World, because we worldwide.

• 1:06:59Speaker 04

  He could have just dropped one of the words. One world advocacy or one world initiative, but no.

• 1:07:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but they were like two for razzle dazzle, maximum impact. So archived versions of their website call for net zero emissions by 2050 and describe climate change as the number one issue facing humanity. Now, these things are true.

• 1:07:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:21Laci Mosley?

  Now, I don't understand how you are promising net zero emissions by 2050. And if I give you my money, how are you doing that? Like, are you fighting people at the gas pump? Like, you're standing next to the diesel pump and you're just like scrapping the truck? Like, how are you gonna stop this from happening?

• 1:07:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, that sounds like a charity scam.

• 1:07:39Laci Mosley?

  It sounds, yeah, like it sounds like very expensive galas where, you know, people like have like $10,000 plates and nobody ever knows what the money actually went to.

• 1:07:46Speaker 04

  But they got a tax, and they got a tax break.

• 1:07:48Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. Wes is a 64-year-old Wall Street billionaire who made his money working for Lehman Brothers and BlackRock private equity firms. So he has experience with scamming, absolutely.

• 1:08:00Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:08:01Laci Mosley?

  Like, honestly, I'm on her side now, because as soon as you said BlackRock and Lehman Brothers, bro. This is scam on scam.

• 1:08:09Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:08:09Laci Mosley?

  Spider versus spy.

• 1:08:10Speaker 04

  This is scam, scam on scam hate crimes.

• 1:08:13Laci Mosley?

  Y'all the Spider-Man meme. Y'all looking at each other.

• 1:08:15Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:08:16Laci Mosley?

  So Sophia slid into Wes's LinkedIn DMs.

• 1:08:19Speaker 04

  That's what you do. That's what you do.

• 1:08:21Laci Mosley?

  I have a friend who got married off of LinkedIn DMs.

• 1:08:23Speaker 04

  We are out here. All the, all the corporate scammers are scamming through LinkedIn. And I'm here for it. If you're not hurting us, hurt each other. Go for it.

• 1:08:32Laci Mosley?

  And also, I feel like LinkedIn is a good place to slide in a DM because at least you know they got a job and you could check the date.

• 1:08:38Speaker 04

  That's right. You can cross-reference on that.

• 1:08:40Laci Mosley?

  As long as it still says present.

• 1:08:42Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:08:44Laci Mosley?

  Like, yes, mama, present. Let me slide in these DMs, okay? Will you recommend me?

• 1:08:52Speaker 04

  Not a recommendation.

• 1:08:53Laci Mosley?

  Listen, LinkedIn just had some layoffs. And somebody tweeted, not the job story. Running out of jobs. I was like, it's bad out here. So Sophia slid in the DMs. Then Sophia threatened to share compromising videos and pictures of him. You sending dick on LinkedIn?

• 1:09:15Laci Mosley?

  Excuse me?

• 1:09:17Speaker 04

  Is that where we're at?

• 1:09:19Laci Mosley?

  Society has completely collapsed. What do you mean?

• 1:09:24Speaker 04

  Listen, I heard that Tinder and Bumble have let us down, but... But dick on LinkedIn?

• 1:09:29Laci Mosley?

  Showing Hole on LinkedIn is crazy. But also give me a recommendation.

• 1:09:37Speaker 04

  LinkedIn is so hilarious because I'm not even that on it because I'm not like a corporate Asian. But I get these like emails still from like friends with their news and their recommendations and shit. And I'm just like, what is happening? I don't need you to recommend Hole.

• 1:09:52Laci Mosley?

  Would you recommend this Hole to your current employer?

• 1:09:54Speaker 04

  You just get an email alert.

• 1:09:57Laci Mosley?

  No, if I ever get a LinkedIn nude, it's over. It's over. What do you mean? So in May of 2024, Sophia went or sent two letters to Wes via iMessage accusing him of having misled her in order to have sex with her. And having sex with her while she was still mentally incapacitated or mentally disabled. She said her home had cameras and threatened to release the footage to the media if he did not pay her.

• 1:10:29Speaker 04

  Oh, I don't know what mentally dis-

• 1:10:34Laci Mosley?

  I think if you're mentally disabled, it's like a permanent. I thought it was like a permanent.

• 1:10:38Speaker 04

  Incapacitated is different.

• 1:10:39Laci Mosley?

  Incapacitated, that's, yeah, that's temporary, but she said and/or.

• 1:10:43Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:10:43Laci Mosley?

  And that's like being a little bit pregnant. Like, I feel like, I get incapacitated, you can get your faculties back, but...

• 1:10:49Speaker 04

  She seems like an and/or kind of gal, cuz she...

• 1:10:52Laci Mosley?

  She's coming together, you're right.

• 1:10:53Speaker 04

  With that name, one world.

• 1:10:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. She's like, let me throw in everything. I was also temporarily handicapped. Uh, like, okay, she threw in the, all the kitchen sink. They initially reached a settlement of six million dollars before she discovered that she'd contracted HPV from the encounter and asked for more money. That's when Wes decided to turn her over to the authorities.

• 1:11:16Speaker 04

  Okay. She just, she flew too close to the sun.

• 1:11:21Laci Mosley?

  Uh, what I'm trying to understand is if she really did contract HPV.

• 1:11:24Speaker 04

  It's hard to tell because sometimes, uh, in men, HPV is like dormant.

• 1:11:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:29Speaker 04

  And then, but you'll, you can still get it.

• 1:11:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, I'm not saying, I'm wondering if she lied about contract. I know it's very much, you can definitely get it.

• 1:11:37Speaker 04

  And HPV is very common, so, okay.

• 1:11:40Laci Mosley?

  Gardasil Kids.

• 1:11:41Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:11:42Laci Mosley?

  But I'm not sure if she's lying about the HPV.

• 1:11:45Speaker 04

  Do we care, are we quibbling over that?

• 1:11:47Laci Mosley?

  No, there's no, this, this is not about the, the sexually transmitted of it all anyway. The, these things exist, I'm not shaming that. I'm just wondering if, if she was like, oh, I'm scamming him for six million, but he actually did actually do something.

• 1:12:00Speaker 04

  Maybe, yeah.

• 1:12:01Laci Mosley?

  And then I'll want more money cuz I have a legitimate client.

• 1:12:03Speaker 04

  Right. It does, you can get, um, cervical cancer from HPV. Yeah, yeah. So that's a real consequence.

• 1:12:10Laci Mosley?

  So, when federal agents arrived at Sophia's Manhattan apartment, because remember, he called the feds on her, they had a search warrant. She ignored their calls, texts, and knocks on the door until a building maintenance worker let them inside. The search turned up multiple cell phones, one hidden in a dirty laundry, and another with sanitary pads and digital gloves. I will say, you hit this right for a man. They really were, it must've been a woman in that FBI squad, cuz why they checking your tampon box? Men are scared of tampons. It was a lady on that FBI squad. Dirty laundry and tampons? She knew where to look.

• 1:12:45Speaker 04

  That's why DEI is a real thing, okay?

• 1:12:47Laci Mosley?

  That's why you need us.

• 1:12:48Speaker 04

  You bring value, we bring value.

• 1:12:50Laci Mosley?

  Cuz I feel like the men FBI would've flipped a couple mattresses over, pulled all the drawers out and dumped them on the ground, pulled everything out in the closet, kicked the TV over and left.

• 1:12:59Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:13:00Laci Mosley?

  The woman was like, if I was a woman, where would I hide these?

• 1:13:03Speaker 04

  These things, I would put my phone in a period pad.

• 1:13:06Laci Mosley?

  Lampoon box is good. They must have told her motherfucking place. God damn. They were squeezing her toothpaste out the tube. Shit.

• 1:13:16Speaker 04

  For real though.

• 1:13:18Laci Mosley?

  Yikes.

• 1:13:21Laci Mosley?

  They also found multiple, so they found the multiple cell phones, right? They also found digital drives and she allegedly had edited photos showing Wes's face on the body of another man during sexual activities.

• 1:13:35Speaker 04

  Oh, is this pre, is this pre generative AI?

• 1:13:39Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:13:40Speaker 04

  Oh, so, so they, they figured it out. It's real easy to deep fake a situation like that.

• 1:13:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, now generative AI wasn't as popular.

• 1:13:47Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:13:48Laci Mosley?

  Because we're talking.

• 1:13:49Speaker 04

  A few years ago.

• 1:13:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:51Laci Mosley?

  But, mm.

• 1:13:54Speaker 04

  See, this is the thing. I, I don't falter for any of this.

• 1:13:57Laci Mosley?

  Well, it's May 24th, so yes, it was popping.

• 1:13:59Speaker 04

  I don't falter for any of this. So far, all I'm hearing is scam on scam crime.

• 1:14:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this is scam on scam crime. And, and she did have sex with this nasty. So I feel like six million dollars for boning this nasty, you're always gonna have that memory of him on top of you.

• 1:14:12Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 1:14:13Laci Mosley?

  That's why I always tell people, if you go on dating apps, that's, that's the thing that I would do. I, I, I don't have the attention span for it. But when I would and I was swiping past people, I would like lay down sometimes and hold the phone over my face. And then sometimes I get a jump scare like, ah, like I could not imagine this person on top of me and I had to scroll, just scroll past. I'm not trying to bone them right away, but sometimes like, I'll like be like, oh, maybe I'll do a personality and like, they don't have to be that cute. And then, and then, and then I'm like, I can't do that no more. If I'm gonna be done dirty, the person is gonna be hot, okay? If I'm gonna be in a bad relationship, we're, they're gonna be hot as fuck, okay?

• 1:14:44Speaker 04

  This is your new boundary.

• 1:14:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's my new boundary. Okay, nothing worse than an ugo doing you dirty and I've been there. Ooh, nothing worse. Like, how dare you?

• 1:14:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:53Laci Mosley?

  So she was doctoring the videos. She was arrested at JFK airport last year as she was trying to board a flight to Hong Kong. She was bailed out by Robin, MUI?

• 1:15:05Speaker 04

  MUI, Mui?

• 1:15:06Laci Mosley?

  Mui. She was bailed out by Robin Mui, a Chinese executive at a US-based newspaper and is under house arrest at an apartment on Park Avenue. I know that's right. She went from one rich man to another. Now, this is who, ooh, now arguably Wes was a little better looking than this guy. Baby, we're going downhill.

• 1:15:26Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 1:15:27Laci Mosley?

  But he got her out of the clink.

• 1:15:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's worth a lot of money.

• 1:15:30Laci Mosley?

  And now she's on Park Avenue.

• 1:15:31Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm. I would hate to have to just bone uglies for my coins. That's the problem. You need to make sure that if they have all the money in the world, that they get that Jennifer Lopez, you know, talent for plastic surgery and injections.

• 1:15:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, something. Or like, it's just gotta be very, very dark.

• 1:15:53Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:15:53Laci Mosley?

  Like, you can't even see. Like, you gotta feel your way to the bed. But here's the thing. Like, we go in the room with our clothes on, we shut off all the lights, we close the blackout curtains, like, it's pitch black, and then we feel our way to the bed.

• 1:16:07Speaker 04

  That's one way. But here's the thing, though. I kind of feel like women, like, what's her name? The pretty one?

• 1:16:12Laci Mosley?

  Sophia?

• 1:16:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, Sophia.

• 1:16:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:14Speaker 04

  So she, women like that, I feel like you just kind of get in a scammy position by being good at dissociating.

• 1:16:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:23Speaker 04

  Right? You can lie, you can scam, you can tell someone's beautiful when they're not, you can tell someone's handsome and manly when they're not, because you can dissociate. So I'm thinking she's good at dissociating when she's letting a dark room nasty situation.

• 1:16:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you're right. She's probably imagining herself, like, in a field, or counting the money. Probably counting the money in her head.

• 1:16:46Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:16:47Laci Mosley?

  Which, fair. For me, this would be so difficult. My ADHD doesn't allow me not to, like, interject in conversations. Like, I'll say something briefly, and then I'll, like, let you continue, but my brain, that's how you know I'm activated in the convo. But like, I feel like the women who are good at this can just sit and listen to a man wax poetic bullshit for hours and just shake their head.

• 1:17:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, they check out.

• 1:17:09Laci Mosley?

  And then, like, anytime they say something they want you to be proud of, you're like, "Oh, wow. Wait, I don't know anything about that. Tell me more."

• 1:17:14Speaker 04

  Tell me more.

• 1:17:15Laci Mosley?

  "Oh, wow. That sounds stressful. You're important."

• 1:17:20Laci Mosley?

  You're so good at it. Key phrases.

• 1:17:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, key phrases, 100%.

• 1:17:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you don't have to listen to anything they're saying. You're just like, "Oh, wow, that sounds, I don't understand." Throwing a lot of those.

• 1:17:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's why I couldn't do that.

• 1:17:29Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:17:30Speaker 04

  I barely figured out how to attract men.

• 1:17:33Speaker 04

  By saying words like that.

• 1:17:35Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, I gotta work on it. I'm not good at it at all.

• 1:17:38Speaker 04

  Too honest. I mean, you're honest.

• 1:17:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, people don't like that. They do not like that at all. Or I be making too many jokes. They're like, bitch, I don't want you to be funny. Just be cute. I'm like, damn, I can't, I can't have a funny feeling? No? I'm like, damn, it's strict. But yes, so how do we feel about Ms. Sophia? That's what she goes by.

• 1:18:01Speaker 04

  Ms. Sophia is perfectly fine, because it's scam on scam crime.

• 1:18:05Laci Mosley?

  I think so too. Scam on scam crime. Okay, it's a good time.

• 1:18:10Laci Mosley?

  My only quip about this is I hate that she didn't just take the six million and run.

• 1:18:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, she asked for too much. Six million. It's, you know, I know that's play money for her, but it's something.

• 1:18:20Laci Mosley?

  That's six more million than you had.

• 1:18:22Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:18:23Laci Mosley?

  And also, why do you think like you're gonna up the ante more? You're not risking him snitching on you?

• 1:18:27Speaker 04

  The thing is, is like, for her to argue harm around HPV, does anyone care about women's health? No.

• 1:18:34Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:18:35Speaker 04

  Did you think you were gonna get something from that? No.

• 1:18:37Laci Mosley?

  Also, you really don't have a case for anything like that unless the person knew that they had something.

• 1:18:43Speaker 04

  That's true. There's some intent.

• 1:18:44Laci Mosley?

  And then shared it with you.

• 1:18:44Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:18:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so if he just walked in, you just over here boning old McNasty, you know he out at the social clubs. You know all them ladies who sitting at the bar in them dresses looking like they don't belong here. He done fucked all of them. Like, probably wrong. Like, why, why would you sleep with that man?

• 1:18:59Speaker 04

  Unprotected.

• 1:19:01Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Ugh, but Sophia, I'm still, I'm sad for you, because I wish that you could have gotten away with this.

• 1:19:07Speaker 04

  I know. She's a baddie.

• 1:19:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she was. That you could never kill, but you can in prison.

• 1:19:13Speaker 04

  Well.

• 1:19:15Speaker 04

  That's a word.

• 1:19:16Laci Mosley?

  She's on podcast though, so shout out to her.

• 1:19:19Speaker 04

  She's doing fine.

• 1:19:20Laci Mosley?

  Well, thank you so much for being here, Jenny.

• 1:19:23Speaker 04

  What a divine pleasure to be with a scam goddess.

• 1:19:25Laci Mosley?

  Thank you. Such a delight and pleasure to be with you as well, always. I feel like we was just hanging out.

• 1:19:29Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:19:30Laci Mosley?

  If you forgot to listen. Now, we always ask at the end of the show, where would you like to be found? Anything you wanna plug? Any socials, all those good things.

• 1:19:36Speaker 04

  Well, listen, if you're listening to this, it means that this summer I'm gonna be in your city, because I am doing an American tour. It's called the Good Egg Immigrant Grocery Store Stand Up Comedy Tour.

• 1:19:49Laci Mosley?

  Okay, Sophia.

• 1:19:49Speaker 04

  That's right. And I'm raising money. And I'm raising money for local organizations that protect immigrant rights. So go to jennyang.tv. Because these are smaller immigrant grocery stores, we're gonna sell out. So I'm doing it with a lot of pre-sale ticket link drops through my email list. So go to jennyang.tv, sign up for the email list.

• 1:20:08Laci Mosley?

  I'm on the list.

• 1:20:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, and go to see me do my stand-up comedy about growing up a good immigrant kid and my fertility failure journey.

• 1:20:16Laci Mosley?

  Yes, that's really good.

• 1:20:18Speaker 04

  We need to talk about, because no one's having kids. Gen Z is not having sex. They want the human race to end.

• 1:20:22Laci Mosley?

  They not have sex, they not drinking, they just making TikToks.

• 1:20:26Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:20:26Laci Mosley?

  Crying, diagnosing themselves with mental health disorders.

• 1:20:29Speaker 04

  Yes. What I've learned is that Gen Z, all they want is a cute little matcha latte and friends.

• 1:20:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:35Speaker 04

  That's all they want.

• 1:20:36Laci Mosley?

  They want to go to the thrift store and get all our shit from the early 2000s and put it all on at once.

• 1:20:46Laci Mosley?

  It's whimsical.

• 1:20:47Speaker 04

  Why not?

• 1:20:48Laci Mosley?

  Why not?

• 1:20:49Speaker 04

  Why not? Live your Pinterest fashion dreams. I'm doing it right now. I'm wearing leopard print skirt.

• 1:20:54Laci Mosley?

  You're pattern clashing. It's so cute. We're gonna take our pictures so y'all can see it on the Instagram. It's so cute.

• 1:20:58Speaker 04

  So anyway, come say hi and follow me at jennyang.tv on Instagram and TikTok. Or follow my weekly podcast, What Should We Talk About? There's gonna be a Good Egg takeover while I'm on the road. So go to jennyang.substack.com.

• 1:21:11Laci Mosley?

  Do it now. And as always, C-I-V-A-L-A-C-I-D-va-lycy on all platforms. If you want to see the pictures of that nasty man and our scamming queen Sophia, you can go on Scam Goddess Pod to look at all of those. And you can watch Scam Goddess on Hulu right now. All the episodes are out. You can get my books, Scam Goddess, anywhere you get books and audio books.

• 1:21:28Speaker 04

  A multimedia queen.

• 1:21:31Laci Mosley?

  Amen. Congregation, I want y'all to get out there.

• 1:21:37Laci Mosley?

  And stay initiating advocacy worldwide on a global scale.

• 1:21:47Laci Mosley?

  Scam Goddess. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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