Pod Insights Girls Gotta Eat The Snack: Mustaches, Mormon Wives, and the M*nosphere About this episode Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we’re talking about:
Best and worst moments from the Oscars
Are beards out? (Plus, strong feelings on other facial hair)
Secret Lives of Mormon Wives starts back up and WTF?
Manosphere doc
Age of Attraction
Headlines: TSA chaos, Access Hollywood, Lewis Hamilton and Kim K., and all the new couple speculation (Alix Earle, Tom Brady, etc.)
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0:01 Rayna Greenberg? This week on the snack, the Oscars, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and TSA chaos.
0:06 Ashley Hesseltine? This is a Dear Media production.
0:08 Rayna Greenberg? Enjoy.
0:13 Ashley Hesseltine? Hi, guys.
0:13 Rayna Greenberg? Hello.
0:15 Ashley Hesseltine? Raina, I am so furious because I just went into, yes, and we're gonna air it out this whole hour.
0:20 Rayna Greenberg? Our first fight on air.
0:21 Ashley Hesseltine? We have our studio in this like office park. It's cooler than that, we swear, but there's all this food in the kitchen.
0:29 Rayna Greenberg? So pissed.
0:29 Ashley Hesseltine? Ashley, I'm so enraged.
0:31 Rayna Greenberg? This is the second day. Today it's Giata, G G I A T A. If you live in LA, best sandwiches.
0:37 Ashley Hesseltine? All these sandwiches being uneaten. Yesterday it was all this Mediterranean food and it, there's a tiny little sign that says only for whatever the fuck company.
0:46 Rayna Greenberg? Inconspicuous.
0:47 Ashley Hesseltine? I would take a sandwich. What are they gonna do?
0:49 Rayna Greenberg? I think we should.
0:50 Ashley Hesseltine? We pay rent here.
0:51 Rayna Greenberg? Yes, I think we should and no one else is eating it.
0:53 Ashley Hesseltine? No one's eating it.
0:54 Rayna Greenberg? That's my favorite sandwich from Giata. It's like turkey with muenster and avocado and there's this big vada Caesar salad. Who's gonna stop me?
1:00 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, here's what I think we should do.
1:02 Rayna Greenberg? Steal them.
1:02 Ashley Hesseltine? I think we should get a ton, a fuck ton of food.
1:06 Rayna Greenberg? Okay.
1:06 Ashley Hesseltine? Put it in that kitchen, reserved for girls gotta eat. A ton of stuff, like just splurge and then go donate it afterwards or something, invite our friends over, but not waste it. I hate to waste food, but literally just fuck with them. There's two of us.
1:20 Rayna Greenberg? What are they gonna do? Nothing.
1:22 Ashley Hesseltine? I mean, honestly, no one will even notice and I will have done all that for revenge to no one. But I'll feel good in my heart about it.
1:27 Rayna Greenberg? I know. I want to watch the boiler room guys next door just want our sandwiches and not be able to have them because they stand outside our door saying the dumbest shit on earth.
1:34 Ashley Hesseltine? I am just gonna be furious if it gets thrown out. That's what I'm saying. Like when you see a spread like that and it's been there for an hour or two and there's so much left, it's going in the trash and I'm pissed.
1:45 Rayna Greenberg? Listen, I like to, I don't steal, but I, I would steal and I want to steal one of those sandwiches and I feel like no one can blame me. That sign is so inconspicuous. It's a tiny little baby sign. It's like they want me to steal it.
1:56 Ashley Hesseltine? No, it's a folded up piece of computer paper, what you use for tissue paper in a gift, and it just says in like pen, not even Sharpie, yet they're asking for it.
2:04 Rayna Greenberg? They are. They are.
2:06 Ashley Hesseltine? What are they wearing?
2:06 Rayna Greenberg? All right, well, let's steal them.
2:07 Ashley Hesseltine? Let's wrap this up and steal those sandwiches.
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2:18 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, so we're gonna kick it off with an Oscars report, just a few highlights and lowlights, if you will.
2:24 Rayna Greenberg? Wait, can I ask you a question?
2:25 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay.
2:26 Rayna Greenberg? Are we done with award season?
2:27 Ashley Hesseltine? They, aren't they the grand finale?
2:29 Rayna Greenberg? I think so.
2:29 Ashley Hesseltine? And then it picks back up in the fall with like, um, the Emmys.
2:33 Rayna Greenberg? I think Emmys is in, it's, it's in January, February.
2:37 Ashley Hesseltine? What?
2:38 Rayna Greenberg? That's what Nikki does, right? The Emmys?
2:39 Ashley Hesseltine? The Golden Globes.
2:40 Rayna Greenberg? You know, I will never know.
2:42 Ashley Hesseltine? Between both of my partners in this life, like Shashank Sunday Night goes, why isn't Nikki hosting this?
2:49 Rayna Greenberg? Same.
2:50 Ashley Hesseltine? Of course, yes, same. But I was like, because she just hosted the Golden Globes two months ago, a month ago?
2:55 Rayna Greenberg? Wait, what's the Emmys?
2:57 Ashley Hesseltine? TV.
2:58 Rayna Greenberg? The Emmys is TV. The Golden Globes is everything.
3:00 Ashley Hesseltine? Everything.
3:01 Rayna Greenberg? And then obviously the Grammys, the Oscars is, is just movies, but.
3:05 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes, the Emmys will be September 14th, 2026. And the Emmys are my favorite because I watch so much TV. When it comes to music, it's still the VMAs for me. I don't care about the Grammys.
3:16 Rayna Greenberg? I like both.
3:17 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, are we having VMAs this year or those canceled?
3:19 Rayna Greenberg? Why would they be canceled? Because they're taking everything, they're taking everything good away from us?
3:23 Ashley Hesseltine? Because we can't have nice things.
3:24 Rayna Greenberg? We can't have anything nice.
3:25 Ashley Hesseltine? Also, September. Okay, so yeah, so we're at the end of the winter season.
3:30 Rayna Greenberg? I'm just so, why do they have an award show in September in Q3? That's ridiculous. Well, I don't understand, Q4 doesn't count?
3:38 Ashley Hesseltine? Let's try to go to the VMAs, Raina.
3:39 Rayna Greenberg? I would like to go to everything. Okay, if we rank stuff I want to go to, it is VMAs and the Grammys. I want music except first.
3:46 Ashley Hesseltine? Yep, 100%.
3:47 Rayna Greenberg? And then maybe Nikki will invite us to.
3:49 Ashley Hesseltine? Actually, the Golden Globes.
3:51 Rayna Greenberg? I want to go to the Golden Globes.
3:51 Ashley Hesseltine? So did you see this sketch at the end where they offer Conan O'Brien, they say, we want you to host for life? Did you see this? I thought you didn't really watch them that much.
4:01 Rayna Greenberg? I, I watched.
4:02 Ashley Hesseltine? Sorry, I'm not trying to put you on blast. Okay. At the very end, they come to him, they're like, Kona, we want you to host for life. I'm like, this is Nikki coded because you know, they're going to have her host Golden Globes.
4:11 Rayna Greenberg? Why?
4:11 Ashley Hesseltine? So like, we're going to have you host for life. Here's your new office and they bring him in the office and they gas him to death. And I didn't know what was happening, but I guess it's from one battle after another. Like Shashank knew that it was a play off of that. I thought it was genius and I wish they would have done it with Nikki. I just, it would have been so funny.
4:30 Rayna Greenberg? So funny.
4:31 Ashley Hesseltine? Like it felt like, not that we've seen this before, but like, I don't know. I just felt like someone should have come up with that for the Golden Globes. Cause again, her being the second time host, this is so much like, you should do this forever.
4:41 Rayna Greenberg? Obviously.
4:42 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
4:42 Rayna Greenberg? They'll do it next year. Okay. I have a confession to make.
4:44 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay. Okay. Here we go.
4:46 Rayna Greenberg? I really like usually make long lists of everything at the Oscars every year. And I go see like most of them. I have not seen any of the movies that are nominated for the Oscars except for Marty Supreme. I think I'm also not reading anymore. Like.
4:59 Ashley Hesseltine? You're touring.
5:00 Rayna Greenberg? I'm not doing anything though.
5:02 Ashley Hesseltine? You're touring. You didn't have to do that, but you just, you had nothing to do.
5:07 Rayna Greenberg? I had no life last year.
5:08 Ashley Hesseltine? When you were seeing movies and reading books, the secret's out.
5:11 Rayna Greenberg? Last year I was seeing so many movies and reading so many books. It was like a cry for help.
5:16 Ashley Hesseltine? No, but don't you feel, I mean, I just feel like that is fulfilling books, I guess. When you're like in your reading era.
5:21 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah. I don't want to have like capacity for other stuff. So yeah, I feel like my cup is full. Thank you for saying that. I thought you were going to be like, Rena, what the fuck? I just, I really have not seen a lot of these this year, so I can't speak to them. Is it like a war movie, one battle after the next, one, obviously?
5:34 Ashley Hesseltine? One battle after another, I think. My brother.
5:39 Ashley Hesseltine? The same thing. I wasn't shading you. My brother has texted now on the family chat and me personally to see if I've seen it. I guess he really wants me to see it. Matt and I don't always align. My brother and I have the exact same sense of humor. Our music tastes align, our TV and movie do not always, and typically actually don't align at all. And so when he tells me to watch something like, he loves Inglourious Basterds. I didn't love that. He loves Yellowstone, for an example, as a show. I just, we don't have the same taste.
6:10 Rayna Greenberg? Men and women, different tastes.
6:11 Ashley Hesseltine? So like, I don't recommend stuff to him and vice versa.
6:15 Rayna Greenberg? I don't know how my brother and I have anything to talk about. I mean, he doesn't really consume social media. He doesn't really watch anything. We go to their house and they don't have TV on during dinner. It's just like.
6:23 Ashley Hesseltine? I don't like TV during dinner.
6:25 Rayna Greenberg? I guess I take it back.
6:26 Ashley Hesseltine? I like music during dinner.
6:27 Rayna Greenberg? We talked about this. You and I don't ever have background TV on.
6:29 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, can I kick it off with the red carpet and an issue that I had, which was not a beard in sight? Raina, I'm worried. The trend is mustache. So we had Jacob Elordi's mustache, Leo's mustache, and then Pedro Pascal took off his mustache.
6:44 Rayna Greenberg? Who was that?
6:45 Ashley Hesseltine? What naked man was this? Whose face is this?
6:48 Rayna Greenberg? There's some people whose faces you're not meant to see. So we're not meant to see it.
6:51 Ashley Hesseltine? When I saw Pedro Pascal bare faced, I, it was such a jump scare. I needed a trigger warning, the same that I needed for Timothy Chalamet's goatee, but we'll get to that. But I really had to remind myself what he typically has. He just has a mustache, but even the removal of just the mustache was so jarring.
7:07 Rayna Greenberg? It's a totally different person.
7:07 Ashley Hesseltine? And then Timothy Chalamet, that offensively prepubescent goatee, I guess that's what he typically has, but seeing him in the all white, Kevin from the Backstreet Boys walked so he could run. Like, I hate a goatee so much. And when, what I will accept a goatee on is Jalen Hurts and Jalen Hurts only.
7:28 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, an athlete.
7:29 Ashley Hesseltine? Michael B. Jordan, like, has somewhat of a goatee. I don't even want to see it on Channing Tatum. I guess white guys is what I'm saying. But I hate a goatee so much. And when it's just sparse like that, when you're-
7:39 Rayna Greenberg? When it's all wiry, nobody wants this.
7:42 Ashley Hesseltine? Timothy Chalamet, stop trying to have facial hair. I can't believe that guy eats Kylie Jenner's pussy.
7:48 Rayna Greenberg? I just, after what she's, who she's been with, I can't believe it.
7:51 Ashley Hesseltine? I can't believe to look at her-
7:53 Rayna Greenberg? I'm not trying to look shame him.
7:55 Ashley Hesseltine? Here's the thing, I'm gonna shame a goatee, I'm not done. You can change it. It's like the one thing you can change. Like, it's a mullet to me. It's like repulsive. Like, it's like a lower back tattoo on your face, like, which I, listen, in terms of like, the vibes, no shade if you have a lower back tattoo.
8:12 Rayna Greenberg? I do.
8:13 Ashley Hesseltine? Everyone I know who has one regrets it.
8:15 Rayna Greenberg? I, it was my first tattoo. It looks like a bullseye. It is, I try to forget that it's there.
8:20 Ashley Hesseltine? All the cool girls have them. They regret them. They regret them.
8:23 Rayna Greenberg? They regret it.
8:24 Ashley Hesseltine? And you can remove it, so.
8:25 Rayna Greenberg? Thank God I don't know that it's there.
8:26 Ashley Hesseltine? You weren't born with it, so I can make fun of it.
8:28 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, I thank God I don't know that it's back there most of the time. That's someone else's problem.
8:32 Ashley Hesseltine? Do you hate a goatee as much as me?
8:33 Rayna Greenberg? I fucking hate it. Everybody in the world hates a goatee.
8:36 Ashley Hesseltine? Except Jalen Hurts.
8:37 Rayna Greenberg? There's nobody that's ever been like, I remember when Ethan Hawke had a goatee, and he also was like a sex symbol. It's wiry.
8:43 Ashley Hesseltine? Wiry. Yes, it's just, it's not done. It does not look intentional, except for a Jalen, I can't say it enough. Brandon, my dad had a goatee phase. Alright, this might be hot.
8:59 Ashley Hesseltine? Like, it was so painful. It was giving like midlife crisis vibes. Lee Hustleton and Shashank, my current husband, need beards. I do not want to see them without them. Like, I have irrational fears of Shashank shaving his beard off. I feel like it's the same fear as me like ending up in Rikers Island. Like, they're irrational, they're never gonna happen, but like, I do.
9:20 Rayna Greenberg? No, so many beards and it's just like, you're not supposed to see them without it. Listen, but I will say, I love a mustache. I really fuck with a mustache. And you know, I've been feeling like that since Salt Hank.
9:33 Ashley Hesseltine? Salt Hank, I knew you were gonna say it.
9:34 Rayna Greenberg? For years. I mean, he, like the viral sandwich restaurant in New York City, our friend Hank, and I mean, I saw him on the internet in 2021 and sent his video to Jeremy and I was like, that guy and his mustache are so hot.
9:47 Ashley Hesseltine? And I will ride it.
9:48 Rayna Greenberg? I will. The last, the last, the last thing I rode was a mustache also.
9:52 Ashley Hesseltine? No, no, no.
9:52 Rayna Greenberg? I'm currently involved at mustaches, I'm into mustaches.
9:56 Ashley Hesseltine? I like a mustache. I like the vibes. You have to have a decent jawline. Cause if not, you need a beard to cover that up. I also like clean shaven. My preferred is obviously what my husband has, but also heavy stubble. I am down with all of these things for the right person. It's just a goatee on hardly anyone, but you're so right, like, and this is coming in style. And I will tell you what, I think so many guys want to do it. It's Burt Reynolds, Magnum P.I.
10:25 Rayna Greenberg? I love it.
10:26 Ashley Hesseltine? It's masculine, it's Top Gun, Miles Teller. Like, I think this is the trend or bare face. I feel like beards are on the way out and I'm upset.
10:35 Rayna Greenberg? They are. No, beards are on the way. It makes me feel very millennial that I've been so into beards for so long, but I have made the transition to mustaches. I'm really into them. Even Jacob Elordi, I've come around to it, I'm into it. Like, I'm high, actually, I'm highly into it.
10:49 Ashley Hesseltine? So, right, okay.
10:50 Rayna Greenberg? I'm sexually attracted. I'm a mustache sexual.
10:56 Rayna Greenberg? Honestly, I think the best sex of my life was recently and he has a mustache.
11:00 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. So you like bald with a mustache, which is crazy.
11:06 Rayna Greenberg? No, no, no, no, no. Back up. I like hair.
11:08 Ashley Hesseltine? With a mustache.
11:09 Rayna Greenberg? Everybody I've been with that has a mustache has hair. Yeah.
11:13 Ashley Hesseltine? Buzz cut?
11:13 Rayna Greenberg? His is buzzed, but he used to have hair and Hank Hank hair.
11:17 Ashley Hesseltine? Bald with a mustache?
11:19 Rayna Greenberg? No, no, you look like.
11:20 Ashley Hesseltine? Someone drew you.
11:22 Rayna Greenberg? No, you look like that game with the magnet.
11:24 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Someone drew that mustache on like you're just like a blank canvas with like one line across your lip.
11:30 Rayna Greenberg? No, no, okay. I'm very specific. You need full beard if you're gonna be bald.
11:34 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay. I'm glad we talked about this because I was just like, our beard's out and please don't tell my husband.
11:39 Rayna Greenberg? No, it's like the front tuck. I mean, it is really millennial, I think, to be into beard.
11:43 Ashley Hesseltine? No, they'll never go out of style, but. So Timothy Chalamet obviously did not win for best actor. Can I just say, I never thought he should have or was deserving before any of this stuff. And we really enjoyed Marty Supreme minus the ending. I never once thought this is Oscar worthy of anything. Timothy Chalamet playing a slightly more erratic version of himself, this arrogant kid like Timothy Chalamet is Bob Dylan. I thought he should have been at least nominated for the Oscar. I respect him as an actor. I never thought Marty Supreme was worthy of any Oscar. Not that I'm a connoisseur in the Oscars, but so it's just kind of interesting that he was in the running.
12:26 Ashley Hesseltine? It was this whole thing and he was snubbed. I don't really think he was snubbed. Like, I definitely am so happy Michael B. Jordan won and Sinner's won for all this stuff. And like the female cinematographer, first woman ever to win the Oscar for best cinematography for Sinner's. But I just thought that was interesting. Like, why was it ever a battle, one battle after the next?
12:46 Rayna Greenberg? One battle after the next. I, I just think people like to see him and Kylie together. I think that like they're just gonna keep nominating him for everything. I mean, he is front and center for every single award show for years now. So is Leo. Like, they're just like, put him there for the jokes. Leo also hasn't won in many, many years. He's just there.
13:03 Ashley Hesseltine? One battle after the next.
13:05 Rayna Greenberg? I think the movie one, I think Leo won.
13:06 Ashley Hesseltine? But he's still.
13:07 Rayna Greenberg? I mean, he's just there so people can like make jokes. He's in the front. I mean, I'm just like, have these people won? They're there for the jokes.
13:13 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, okay, they're there for the bit. And then Michael B. Jordan went to In-N-Out after, which was just so iconic. I mean, him in In-N-Out and he was like signing stuff. I just like love to see that.
13:23 Rayna Greenberg? I just love him.
13:24 Ashley Hesseltine? And then another thing I thought was crazy was this tie.
13:28 Rayna Greenberg? Thank God, by the way, Kumail Nanjiani was like presenting it because he was.
13:33 Rayna Greenberg? He just started doing bits. It was like, this is actually not a joke. Buckle in. Like, it was crazy to listen to him do this. And then it was for like, the the short something awards, the short music awards. He was like, how is this the longest acceptance speech for the shortest?
13:49 Ashley Hesseltine? But when he said, we have a tie, he was like, no, I'm serious.
13:52 Rayna Greenberg? He said, it's a tie. I'm not joking. It's actually a tie. So everyone calm down. We're gonna get through this focus up. I was so glad a comedian was presenting this. I I didn't know that was even possible. Isn't the point of awards that you give an award to one person? How could this happen?
14:07 Ashley Hesseltine? It's happened seven times.
14:09 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, my God, that many?
14:09 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes, this is, well, but in how many years? I mean, how many awards in how many years?
14:13 Rayna Greenberg? It's just like, you have one job. The Academy has one job, and it's to vote and give one award. Like, the government has one job, which is to stay open. And vote on stuff.
14:21 Ashley Hesseltine? Right. And him and then Kieran Culkin saying Sean Penn's not here, probably because he doesn't, he didn't want to come.
14:27 Rayna Greenberg? Because Nikki roasted him too hard.
14:29 Ashley Hesseltine? I thought these Oscars were pretty entertaining. I think that they are so boring. I usually don't even watch them. I wanted to watch for the whole Michael B. Jordan, Timothy Chalamet of it all. And then I just kind of got into it. I thought there was some shade thrown. And then this Anna Wintour moment.
14:45 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, my God, the Anna Wintour moment, the bridesmaids reunion. I mean, it was so fun.
14:49 Ashley Hesseltine? So the Anna Wintour moment, Anna Wintour and Anne Hathaway came up to present an award. And Anne Hathaway says, would you like to read the nominees? And Anna Wintour says, thank you, Emily.
15:00 Rayna Greenberg? I mean, the chill that went through my body.
15:02 Ashley Hesseltine? Iconic. Obviously, Devil's Prada 2 was coming out, so this was so brilliant. But I was just thinking how incredible this is and how there are so few movies that could pull that off, that are so ingrained in our pop culture, that that line just resonates worldwide. And that Anna Wintour is delivering it
15:20 Rayna Greenberg? No, it's so crazy.
15:21 Ashley Hesseltine? from a character based on her. So I looked up
15:24 Rayna Greenberg? It's crazy.
15:24 Ashley Hesseltine? I looked up if she's addressed Devil's Prada over the years. And she's just like, very coolly addressed it over the years. She has never, she hasn't snubbed it or said that it's like, this isn't about me. She said it was great. She said it was, they took a fair shot, like, years ago. I mean, this movie's so old. But she, she's like, addressed it. But that was the most, she delivered Line from the fucking movie.
15:44 Rayna Greenberg? It's, I mean, Chill Went Through My Body is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's, I've read the book. Have you read the book?
15:48 Ashley Hesseltine? No.
15:49 Rayna Greenberg? The book was written by her former assistant.
15:50 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh, right, right, right.
15:51 Rayna Greenberg? So it is actually based on having worked for Anna Wintor. Um, so it's, it should be like relatively accurate. I mean, I couldn't believe what I was watching and I kind of, as I was watching Anna Wintor say it, I forgot it's Meryl Streep's line. Cause they're so tied together. I forgot I wasn't actually watching the actress deliver the line.
16:10 Ashley Hesseltine? Right. No, I, yes, like it was a mind blown moment. And then Anne Hathaway asks, do you like my dress? And people who know, know that she's wearing florals and it's spring. Almost, almost spring. So there was that and she just ignores her completely. And she's like, and the nominees are, I just, there was a best moment of the Oscars for sure. That's really it.
16:34 Rayna Greenberg? Well, a lot of TV and pop culture. I mean, let's just kick it off with the, the biggest one. It's my entire feed. Is season four of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I was starting with the other one.
16:46 Ashley Hesseltine? There's one that I won't be addressing today.
16:49 Rayna Greenberg? I think you'll enjoy what I have to say about it.
16:50 Ashley Hesseltine? Let's kick it off with Mormon.
16:51 Rayna Greenberg? Uh, so Secret Lives of Mormon Wives premiered. I mean, I was like laying in bed in DC before my show and I was like, I can't believe I have to go to my show. And then I turned it on. By the way, I love my show. It's just, we really love Secret Life.
17:02 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, that happened to me. I was in Seattle for that chick show and I was like, I can't believe, I like, but I did take a nap, but I could have been watching, but you know, I had to get my sleep in.
17:09 Rayna Greenberg? So the, the season came out on Hulu. I mean, I, I'm in the camp of everybody. As I was watching it, I was just like, why are these men on the screen so much? It's one of my favorite shows. I want to watch these women. I want to watch their stories. I don't want to know their husbands' names. They're accessories to me. I don't care about them. This is the secret lives of the wives, not about, they picked Jordan, the worst one of all of them, who just got his face injected with filler and botox and microblading. He looks crazy. And they just decided to give him the spotlight. So somebody on TikTok, I know this is an actual, this girl had like timed it. She said that. The women are only on the screen in the first episode for 12 minutes out of an hour. Without the men.
17:51 Ashley Hesseltine? Without the men. Okay, right, because obviously like.
17:53 Rayna Greenberg? We are just being waterboarded.
17:56 Ashley Hesseltine? Except for Chase.
17:57 Rayna Greenberg? Well, we'll take Chase always.
17:58 Ashley Hesseltine? So there's so much Chase. I didn't know, because we've only had, so here's the thing, I didn't care for Chase prior, and then I realized he's this like outspoken, liberal king, and then he became so hot to me. I'm easy to please. That's all you gotta do is like believe in like women's rights and human rights and.
18:18 Rayna Greenberg? He and actually she will suck your dick.
18:20 Ashley Hesseltine? And he does look like Buck. Is he not Buck?
18:24 Rayna Greenberg? No, we see faces different.
18:25 Ashley Hesseltine? Raina, I thought you were really gonna feel me on this.
18:28 Rayna Greenberg? No, he.
18:28 Ashley Hesseltine? How do you, he looks exactly like Buck.
18:30 Rayna Greenberg? I do not, listen, I find them both extremely attractive. I see no similarities.
18:35 Ashley Hesseltine? He is Buck, and I'll die on this hill. They look exactly alike.
18:39 Rayna Greenberg? Did you talk about this?
18:40 Ashley Hesseltine? No, I haven't talked to Lindsay about it yet. I didn't know.
18:41 Rayna Greenberg? I wonder if she thinks that.
18:43 Ashley Hesseltine? I'll ask Lindsay, but anyway, he was a real peripheral character, and now he's more of a main character. But Jordan, I'm having a visceral reaction. Like, I couldn't believe that they had him saying he's the founder of Dad Talk, and he had the audacity to say, we're funnier than the wives. Like, he said it as if it wasn't up for debate. Like, he said, like, this is a fact. Like, we're funnier. You guys are so fucking cringe. Like, what is happening here? Couldn't, like, we're going to the villa. I mean, I haven't watched it all. I only watched the first episode and a half, and then Raina told me to skip ahead to one part, which we'll get to, but I'm getting the gist. And I'm not not enjoying it, but yes, way too much dads.
19:22 Rayna Greenberg? I just, I don't need, I don't need to hear about Dad Talk. I don't, the villa will take up three more episodes. Wait till you get into.
19:28 Ashley Hesseltine? Talking about it?
19:29 Rayna Greenberg? What happened at Villa? Who did what at Villa? The, the boys not telling their wives about Villa?
19:34 Ashley Hesseltine? When do they go?
19:35 Rayna Greenberg? They must have gone. I mean.
19:38 Ashley Hesseltine? They don't show them going?
19:40 Rayna Greenberg? No, they never show them, because it's a Hulu show, which will air, they're cross promoting that show. And, you know, the, the drama came from Demi and Marciano at Vanderpump Villa, and so they're gonna go back. Marciano is gonna be at the villa. And Jordan was like, you know, this is our chance to step out of your shadow. And she was like, you, you are my coattails. You literally, you have nothing without me.
20:04 Ashley Hesseltine? But do you think producers got in his ear and like encouraged him to take on this role for the TV? Drama hate of it all like, or do you think this is on his own accord? I don't know. I think that producers see something and dig into it and push it.
20:22 Rayna Greenberg? Probably. It's just, I, I'm not even hate watching it. It's just, it gives me the ick.
20:26 Ashley Hesseltine? He really aren't into it.
20:27 Rayna Greenberg? Worst husband of all of them. Like, I really don't give a fuck about Michaela's husband or Macy's husband, but like, I don't have a visceral reaction to them. Jordan verbally abuses his wife. She's staying at a hotel every other week. Like, he's a monster.
20:41 Ashley Hesseltine? I was trying to figure out what he looks like. He's, it's-
20:44 Rayna Greenberg? Jimmy Neutron.
20:45 Ashley Hesseltine? That's a good one. It's like Spencer Pratt and Scott Disick had a baby that was also Eddie Munster. Like, he looks, I can't look at him.
20:53 Rayna Greenberg? Looks crazy. He got his face shot with so much filler. He's just the worst husband. I don't know why they anointed him to this. It's, it's a, it's a tough watch. But I mean, I am glad that Chase is getting the screen time that we deserve.
21:06 Ashley Hesseltine? So then they bring on Harry Jowsey.
21:11 Ashley Hesseltine? Literally, okay, so hear me out. His sole purpose is to flirt with Taylor and make Dakota jealous. It's just a planned storyline, whatever. But if they asked us, they were like, hey, just, Ashley and Ryan, we want you to wait and we want to bring on a celebrity just to flirt and just to be horny in LA. Who would you guys recommend? We'd be like, Harry will do it. Harry Jowsey will do it.
21:36 Ashley Hesseltine? Literally, Harry, yeah, I'll, I'll be there. Like, literally, you wouldn't even have to convince him. Like, he is the most perfect cast for this. He, and you can tell he's, he shows up and he's like, oh my God, there's kids here. Like, ew. Like, it is the funniest thing. And they're all kind of giddy around him. I'm like, you guys be fucking cool. Like, you're famous too.
21:54 Rayna Greenberg? So they made it, they don't explain like why he's there at all. And they don't explain what his connection is. And she's, all of a sudden, Taylor's on the phone with Harry Jowsey. And so they're, they're all out in LA for the Dancing with the Stars premiere. And Macy did Harry's podcast that day.
22:08 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay.
22:09 Rayna Greenberg? Or that week. And she said, like, all the girls are here. You should come to the house tonight. And that's how he got involved in filming. Macy was doing a tour for her book. Um, he had never watched the show. He doesn't know anything about-
22:20 Ashley Hesseltine? Which is fair. They do kind of say like Taylor's about to be the Bachelorette and she doesn't announce a flirt, he, he, he. So we're bringing him on. Like it's forced. I support it. I support bringing him in to mix it up. Dakota's all pissed, but then him and Dakota like buddy up. Like Shashank was like, that backfired. Like that would be.
22:38 Rayna Greenberg? That would be Shashank. I saw that and I was like, it would be him. He would just buddy up with somebody. I've been trying to get Shashank to hate this one guy and they just became, became buds. I was like, you're supposed to be on my side about this.
22:51 Ashley Hesseltine? He, he will, he will. He there, he hates other people that we actually haven't even told him to.
22:56 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
22:56 Ashley Hesseltine? He, if someone does like the smallest thing to you, he does hate them. But this last guy, he's like, I like him.
23:04 Ashley Hesseltine? And he's, I'll look over, he's watching his stories. I'm like, stop, Shashank. He's liking it.
23:10 Ashley Hesseltine? Like you're such a traitor. He's not the worst offender though.
23:16 Rayna Greenberg? No, he fucks me while I just hate him. He's a bad person. But I'll get Shashank out of there. Um, I'll, but Harry Jowsey, the drop, one of the funniest lines I've ever heard in my life. And they said that we're all, he's like, so what's the deal here? Like all your husbands are here, your kids are here. And Taylor Frankie Paul's explaining how this all happened, that they used to like, um, have these like orgies and swinging and we're into polyamory. And Harry drops the funniest line I've ever heard. Is that a person? He thought Polly Amory.
23:44 Ashley Hesseltine? What if that was your name? That's so funny. For him to, his mind to go there. That's very funny. Polly is a cute name.
23:53 Rayna Greenberg? Polly Amory.
23:55 Ashley Hesseltine? We're all into Polly Amory. You know her? She's on selling, she's on selling the OC.
24:00 Rayna Greenberg? Like that's what he said. He has an Australian accent. So he doesn't like, he doesn't hear us as clearly.
24:06 Ashley Hesseltine? Polly Anne Marie, like bone apple tea.
24:08 Rayna Greenberg? Yes.
24:09 Ashley Hesseltine? That was my favorite meme.
24:10 Rayna Greenberg? It was so earnest what he asked.
24:13 Ashley Hesseltine? No, totally. Yeah, he's not making a joke.
24:16 Rayna Greenberg? No.
24:17 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, so are you done? Are you gonna watch it? What's your, what's your status?
24:22 Rayna Greenberg? I like.
24:22 Ashley Hesseltine? Are you like, really like, I may not finish this?
24:25 Rayna Greenberg? I just don't like it that much. I don't really want these storylines with all these husbands.
24:30 Ashley Hesseltine? I know.
24:31 Rayna Greenberg? You have like Whitney and Jen are living in LA now and Whitney, I guess, has since moved to New York. She said she's probably done with filming. And it's hard to know when people say that if they're trying to negotiate a higher contract, but she did make a statement this week saying, it might just be my time to be done. People are saying she might be on Real Housewives of New York. I mean, people are wildly speculating.
24:50 Ashley Hesseltine? I mean, she's a star now.
24:51 Rayna Greenberg? I'm really, I'm liking her character. I never thought that I would be watching this show specifically because I enjoy Whitney. It's a tough watch. Taylor is, you know, we really liked her last season so much. You really saw her. She seemed really healed last season and she was like really working on herself and she was so kind to everybody, even to me. And this season, she seems to like really be going through it and then she sleeps with Dakota and I feel like she like lost the entire audience.
25:15 Ashley Hesseltine? She, yeah, and then kind of lost the plot. Like she feels like she's regressed a little. She feels messier. So it's like a bummer to see that. Maybe the fame has gotten to her a little bit. I don't know. I mean, she's got a lot of baggage. It made me laugh when she was talking to Harry and she was like, there's my baby daddy. I got another baby daddy in Utah and I'm probably gonna have another baby daddy after the season of The Bachelorette. And I'm like, I don't know if that's how you flirt. I, I wouldn't like it if a man was saying that to me. I'd be like, I think I'm all set. That's, whatever you're into, that's not a turn on for me. Most men, ether.
25:55 Rayna Greenberg? Maybe if you're Harry Jowsey, it might be.
25:57 Ashley Hesseltine? Like, he's like, I'm trying to be number four. Or three, maybe.
26:02 Rayna Greenberg? I'm putting a condom on to this one.
26:03 Ashley Hesseltine? So, yeah, I don't know. I might continue it. I wasn't like hating it, but I really want to know what's up with the prominence of the dads. Like, they have to know what people want, right? They, they do surveys and they get feedback. Like, please tell me this is not what people wanted. Every single person I've talked to or seen on the internet doesn't want this. Nobody wants this.
26:22 Rayna Greenberg? I, there's not one person I've seen that's like enjoying this. And I don't understand the move to do this. Like, no one wanted more men on this show. Real Housewives has always been Real Housewives and their husbands are accessories. And every once in a while, there'll be a franchise where people really like the husbands and-
26:37 Ashley Hesseltine? You're so right. You're so right.
26:38 Rayna Greenberg? People don't want this.
26:39 Ashley Hesseltine? Just follow that exact model. Like, I want to see them as accessories and as husbands, not as main characters.
26:47 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, I didn't need to, I don't, Jordan's face, I didn't, it's too much screen time for me. So, I don't know. We don't actually really know what is going to happen next season. So, they are filming season five. The way they film the show is really interesting. They just go right. Like, you see them film the reunion for season three during season four. They just never stop filming, essentially. They just go right through. They film the reunion. And then, season five is now had halted because allegedly Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota got into some type of domestic violence squabble. I read they're both being sent for psych evals, whether or not that's true or not, but they have halted production.
27:20 Ashley Hesseltine? Meanwhile, The Bachelor is supposed to start, The Bachelorette.
27:22 Rayna Greenberg? Sunday.
27:23 Ashley Hesseltine? I did not realize.
27:24 Rayna Greenberg? This Sunday.
27:26 Ashley Hesseltine? And she's being accused of domestic violence.
27:29 Rayna Greenberg? Second time.
27:30 Ashley Hesseltine? Right. I, I mean, ABC knew what they were getting into. She had this on her record before.
27:37 Rayna Greenberg? I mean, I just, I can't believe the timing of this. This is so insane. She was on the carpet for the Oscars also.
27:43 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, exactly.
27:44 Rayna Greenberg? And then I actually don't, and I don't know the timeline. Like, was it the next day?
27:49 Ashley Hesseltine? I don't know. She's got to get her shit together.
27:51 Rayna Greenberg? I mean, did she go on the next day? And there was like this altercation? And now, The Bachelor is like, is Kris Jenner like DJing all this? Like, how did this all happen the same week?
28:01 Ashley Hesseltine? I know. Like, has The Bachelor read a statement?
28:03 Rayna Greenberg? No, they, I mean, I went to, I went to The Bachelor, I went to ABC's page and obviously people, I mean, were bombing the comments, hundreds and hundreds of comments, calling for them to not air this season. And I mean, this is a huge corporation, they can't just like wave a wand, make a decision in an hour. I'm sure that there's discussions, they have to make some type of statement.
28:21 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
28:21 Rayna Greenberg? But like, I don't know, it's crazy, like, the, the show is already filmed, it's edited, this is the work of probably hundreds of people that had to converge to do this. All these, listen, I don't feel bad for these guys that went on The Bachelor, people with their lives on hold for-
28:36 Ashley Hesseltine? If you want to see it, it's gonna crush, no matter what.
28:38 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
28:39 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, well, speaking of terrible men, we have another TV show we're gonna get to, but before that, we are just going to tell you about our partner, FP Movement. FP Movement is Free People's activewear brand, we are both wearing it. Tell me what you're wearing.
28:55 Rayna Greenberg? I'm wearing the hotshot crossover set. Now, you first bought it for like, I think, an out, an airport outfit, like, I want to look put together for my airport looks.
29:02 Ashley Hesseltine? Like, I, I wear it, I wear it to record, and I, but yeah, I'll travel with it, because it's so comfortable. I have it in black, this is the espresso, I think.
29:10 Rayna Greenberg? This comes in tons of colors.
29:11 Ashley Hesseltine? No, it comes in tons of colors, but I have the espresso on the way.
29:14 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
29:15 Ashley Hesseltine? It's such a good set.
29:16 Rayna Greenberg? It's really comfy, it makes you look really put together. I just like, I feel really like chic walking around, like, look at me, I have a set.
29:20 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes, and I'm wearing, this is the FP Movement go-to long sleeve set in victory red, just the pants. So, I do have the shirt, but it is more of a sweatshirt, like, a light sweatshirt, off the shoulder, very cute, but it's 90 degrees today, so I just, this shirt is not FP Movement, but the pants are, we both wanted to wear it. But we have so much stuff from FP Movement, they have their own stores, I went to the store recently in the Century City Mall.
29:46 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, you did?
29:46 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, I was just buying all kinds of stuff.
29:48 Rayna Greenberg? I was going to Santa Monica, too.
29:48 Ashley Hesseltine? Everything's so soft, such incredible activewear, and it is by Free People. So whether you're hunting, hiking, flowing, training, or grabbing a matcha or coffee, obviously, I would never grab a matcha.
29:59 Rayna Greenberg? Podcasting.
29:59 Ashley Hesseltine? Uh, podcasting, traveling.
30:01 Rayna Greenberg? I would never get a matcha.
30:03 Ashley Hesseltine? FP Movement blends your performance and style, so you never have to choose between the two. So, we just love this brand. We just picked out some stuff that we have on the way. They have, um, great, like, totes and- Bags, great jackets, pullovers, half zips and shorts. I'm like obsessed with the shorts, scorts. If you really, if you want to work out, do your pickleball, whatever cute activities you have going on in like a skirt hybrid, they have that. Tanks, I got a great sports bra I'm so excited about. And I was like shopping online of like low impact versus medium impact for my giant tits. And just really, because like exercise, because there are sports bras you can do yoga and you can't run in.
30:38 Rayna Greenberg? No, I don't, well, somebody who doesn't exercise.
30:41 Ashley Hesseltine? They have them all. We just love it. You guys, we are such, such fans. And like Raina said, if you don't work out, it doesn't matter, because this is stuff we're wearing like day to day. Again, even to like travel in. So we're on vacation, whatever you guys want to do, get into it. You can visit freepeople.com slash GGE to shop their full line of activewear and workout gear. That is freepeople.com slash GGE. Okay, Raina, hit us with the manosphere.
31:09 Rayna Greenberg? Listen, stop shading me. I wanted to watch it. I wanted to be in the culture.
31:13 Ashley Hesseltine? I said, we can put it on the outline, but I refuse to watch it and give it my energy, but you can tell me about it.
31:17 Rayna Greenberg? So Louis Theroux, he's a documentary maker. He made this documentary called The Manosphere on Netflix. It's 90 minutes. It's a quick watch. I don't think I could adjust it any longer than that. It's all these like red pill influencers that they're all built in the image of Andrew Tate. That's, that's what they all seem like. They really hate women. It's alpha male, everything. It's stack money, build wealth. They're just, it's hard to digest them. And I don't want to platform these people. So I'm not going to say their names or anything. But Louis Theroux, he got interviews with all them, which is pretty tough to do. They're really not going to like gift their image to somebody else and have somebody else have like editing power over them. And I sort of was like, what is the point of all this going to be? Like, what is the takeaway supposed to be? And part of it, you know, he digs into all their relationships. I mean, hurt people hurt people
32:01 Rayna Greenberg? as part of it. I'm just like, all these people, I certainly do not feel bad for these men. They're creating a lot of harm, but all of them come from broken families and tough upbringings. They didn't come to this like, I hate women, stack wealth, alpha male version, having grown up in a healthy, stable home. But they just look so embarrassing. And it makes me laugh so hard how embarrassing they look.
32:23 Ashley Hesseltine? So, okay, is the tone mocking them?
32:26 Rayna Greenberg? He just basically lets them, the tone is, yes, he just kind of lets them cook. It is neutral, but like, yes, Louis Thoreau is like, these people are problematic, obviously.
32:36 Ashley Hesseltine? Right, like we're, yeah.
32:37 Rayna Greenberg? He's like, I'm just, I'm gonna bring your partners on and let them talk. I mean, watching them fumble, one of them, it was so funny. He films him getting into like a little altercation with his mom and his, he's like so masculine, hates women, but he's like talking to his mom and his mom's like, I ordered juice for you. And he's like, I want a juice. And she was like, I ordered a juice, you don't talk to me like this. And he's like, mommy, I don't want to have a juice. I mean, you gotta see the screenshot. You gotta see the screenshot of him with his mom.
33:06 Ashley Hesseltine? Mommy, I don't want a juice, all right? Yeah, I mean, I've seen a couple clips against my will and these guys are total jokes. They're not masculine in any way. They, they, they think they are, they're not, that's not what masculinity is. They're fucking pathetic, but the discourse surrounding it is that they're just grifters and they don't believe their own bullshit. And I'm sure there's a spectrum of it. These men certainly aren't feminists that are cosplaying toxic men, but they're playing into it for money and clicks and all the things. Like, I, I'm curious what they really do believe because they're such grifters. So many of these people don't even know what they're saying. Some of these people don't have a value system at all. And if you told them tomorrow, we need you to be a feminist, they might take that bait.
33:51 Ashley Hesseltine? You know, like, it really is the grossest kind of person at all that actually does not have that value system and morals and they'll just do whatever it takes to make a buck or to be famous.
34:02 Rayna Greenberg? The grift is deep with this sect of society. I mean, they just say the most inflammatory, horrible things about Jewish people, about women. And, you know, it's unfortunate that like kids are attracted to this and they talk a little bit about why, but it is, they just look so, they also don't seem like they're having fun. They're just, they talk about like how much money they have and all these girls they fuck and all of them practice one-way monogamy where like their partners are monogamous, they're not. But none of them seem like they're having fun.
34:31 Ashley Hesseltine? They're not and they hate themselves and that's the karma you have to think about when you see these people. I mean, no one hates himself more than Donald Trump and he has to live with that. And what a sad life, you know, but he's causing so much harm and these people are causing harm. So it's not enough of a punishment, but you have to know it. The self-loathing is real, so I don't know. I mean, I don't know, like, is this a net positive? I guess what I
34:59 Rayna Greenberg? Platforming these people?
35:00 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, what I do like is that, and I'm not sure if they focus on this in the doc, but there are young boys who come to a crossroads in their life for whatever reason, when they're feeling lost or left out among their peers, or they can't get dates, or whatever they're feeling, and their parents aren't as involved. And they really can go one of two ways, and they can dive into this red pill world, or they can find someone like Scott Galloway and look to them for their version of masculinity. And I just hope parents realize that. And I think when I see content like this, I hope it's a cautionary tale for parents of boys, that they can make sure they don't lose their son to this.
35:40 Rayna Greenberg? Their lives don't look glamorized. I watch these men, and I think, like, you look so pathetic. You look so angry. You talk about confidence, but you actually look like the least confident people in the room. You say the most disgusting, horrifying things, just for money and clout. And all of these guys are a part of, like, financial MLMs, where, like, if you just sign up for my course, and all of these are backed by institutions that do not have good reputations. And they look ridiculous.
36:04 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
36:05 Rayna Greenberg? But the funniest thing about this that I wanted to tell you, okay, you did watch previews for this?
36:09 Ashley Hesseltine? No, I've literally just seen clips, like, KFC, like, a few TikToks.
36:13 Rayna Greenberg? Okay, so I will play this. I'm gonna play you this guy, Louis Theroux.
36:17 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay.
36:17 Rayna Greenberg? Do you recognize this voice?
36:19 Speaker 02 I was entering the manosphere, a wild frontier of streamers.
36:23 Ashley Hesseltine? I mean, it sounds familiar, why?
36:24 Rayna Greenberg? It's the jiggle jiggle guy, my money don't jiggle jiggle, it folds. I was like, I know this voice, this is crazy.
36:31 Ashley Hesseltine? But what was that from?
36:33 Rayna Greenberg? That was from an interview that he did with the girl that she also went on, like, that Andrew Garfield, like, interview date.
36:40 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh, Chicken Shop date?
36:41 Rayna Greenberg? I think it's from Chicken Shop, I might have made that up, but anyways, yes, I watched it. I think these people look so fucking embarrassing. And I hope that's what most people that watch them see, is that they are hypocrites and ridiculous, and their lives don't look that great.
36:53 Ashley Hesseltine? And parents of boys just use it as a cautionary tale. Okay, so Age of Attraction on Netflix. Remember when Nick and Natalie, Nick Vile and his wife Natalie, were announced to host? I feel like it's forever ago. I feel like this has taken forever. I thought it was, I was like, is this season two? Did I miss season one? So I was so excited for it. So Nick and Natalie are hosting it. They have an 18 year age gap, I think. And it is about age gaps and relationships and the structure of the show is pretty unique, I think, where they just throw all these people together and they can kind of do what they want. There's no like date cards or they just let them hang out and meet each other and then go on dates.
37:32 Ashley Hesseltine? What I think is interesting is that I don't know if they're forcing them to pick someone who's the op, like who's younger or older. Cause like, what if two youngs wanted to get together or two olds? But I mean,
37:43 Rayna Greenberg? Do they call them old and young?
37:44 Ashley Hesseltine? No, I'm just doing that. I hope that's okay. So I just, they've picked people who like someone with an age gap. Yeah. So they've picked men that like younger women and women who like younger men and vice versa. And then they vibe and they talk and then they go on these dates and then they can decide to go into the promise room. And they go into the promise room and this isn't like a proposal type situation, but the promise room is where they exchange these promise rings and they reveal their ages. So we don't know their ages as we're watching it and they don't know their ages either. They're, they're sworn to secrecy to not share. I don't know if they're whispering it off camera, but then they reveal it in this promise room situation.
38:24 Ashley Hesseltine? And then that's when they decide if they want to go into the world together, like go back to their hometowns, meet their families, meet their kids and friends and things like that. So I haven't gotten to that part yet. I'm only in the first few episodes, but these age gaps, there's a real range. So spoiler alerts ahead, but they start with the first promise room couple is the woman is 54 and the guy's 27.
38:47 Rayna Greenberg? And is that the one that looks like Harry or?
38:48 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes, he looks like Prince Harry.
38:50 Rayna Greenberg? Prince Harry, okay.
38:51 Ashley Hesseltine? Her kids are 25 and 29.
38:54 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
38:54 Ashley Hesseltine? So he's younger than her oldest. And there's a six year old man with a 27 year old girl, but he did not look six. So here's the thing, they have cast people.
39:05 Rayna Greenberg? It's crazy.
39:06 Ashley Hesseltine? That look young.
39:07 Rayna Greenberg? Everybody looks young. And it was fascinating to watch it because normally you would say like, John, comma, 38, lives in whatever the fuck. There's no ages and I'm looking at these people and I don't know. And almost all, a lot of them have kids. So like so many of them are like, I have two kids, I have three kids. You're like, they could be any age.
39:23 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. And there was this one girl who, she was 22. I knew she was 22. I was like, she's 22. She's, that's the only age she's 22. And the guy, I was like, there's no way there's anyone in their 30s on this show because it won't work. 30s is too young for the young people and too old for the old people. Like, but regardless, he was 38. Yeah. Shashank and I are watching this and we're trying to guess before they get to the promise room, which is like such a fun game. And so I was like, he's got to be at least 40. I just don't think anyone in their 30s is on the show. I think that would be like against the whole premise. And he was 38 and she was like, I think she was playing it up. I think they have to act surprised, but she was like, oh my God, I can't believe it. He has a 14 year old daughter. How old did you think he possibly could have been? She knew he had a 14 year old daughter and she was like,
40:08 Ashley Hesseltine? how could you be 38? But that one's not that glaring. But it's, it is interesting. This one woman, this Asian woman, I was like, her face is 20 and she's 55 or something.
40:20 Rayna Greenberg? It's crazy the ages of these people. I can't guess any of their ages.
40:23 Ashley Hesseltine? I feel like they chose a few young people that even appear older. And you know what I think is very funny? When the young women are in the room with the old men and then they have to be like, I thought you were older.
40:36 Ashley Hesseltine? Like, they have to say it. They have to be like, you're 22. I thought you were 28. And you're like, ouch. Right? Like you're being.
40:44 Rayna Greenberg? Because they have to say.
40:45 Ashley Hesseltine? You're being told, I thought you were older.
40:47 Rayna Greenberg? Okay. You know what surprised me the most about this show? Cause they are flown to this undisclosed location. Where are they flown to?
40:53 Ashley Hesseltine? I don't know. They're in the woods.
40:54 Rayna Greenberg? Somewhere in the middle of nowhere. But I didn't realize like, not that these people live in the same places. So that is like the big, to me, it is a bigger obstacle than picking somebody with a big age range is like, do these people want to move to a different city? They have families. Like one person was like, I live in Texas. And the other person's like, I live in New York. And I was like, oh, they're not moving.
41:14 Ashley Hesseltine? A hundred percent. Yes. Like Love is Blind, they're all in the same area. They aren't even in the same tri-state area on this show. Like it's a lot, a lot of these are not going to work out. It's just for good TV, but. As I'm watching it, I just feel like I have a lot of opinions on on age. Whatever you want to do is fine. I think 20, 20, 24, 24, 25 years old into 30s, into 40s even feels like fair game. I think when you're 21, 22, it still feels like really young to date men in their 40s. But again, whatever you want to do 20s, 30s, 40s. I'm like, whatever is fine. That's Nick and Natalie. And I just, you see it all the time and it that you look appropriate together. You don't look like a father and daughter or a mother and a son.
41:55 Ashley Hesseltine? When you get to your 50s and you're seeking out partners in their 20s, it feels like something else is going on there. I'd be curious what a therapist would say. It just feels like this person could be at the age of your child or they are the age of your child easily.
42:12 Rayna Greenberg? Two generations removed.
42:14 Ashley Hesseltine? Two generations removed.
42:15 Rayna Greenberg? It's crazy.
42:15 Ashley Hesseltine? Like if you you've lived so much life in your late 40s, 50s, 60s even, and you want someone who's like childlike, like it feel when it's a man seeking out a young woman, it feels really predatory. Women who do it, I'm just like, what's going on here? There's some unmet need and whatever you want to do is fine. If you fall in love with someone that you didn't expect, that's different. But it's just interesting to me to be 50 plus and be seeking out 20 somethings. And it gives me the ick.
42:43 Rayna Greenberg? We talked about this before, we talked about Professor Chesko. I mean, you are seeking out somebody that can't challenge you in any way. You're seeking out somebody who doesn't have the life experience to call you out on your behavior and say, in my experience, I didn't have any boundaries when I was 22, 23, 24. I didn't know what a boundary was. I couldn't draw a boundary. I had a boyfriend who was super emotionally abusive. I couldn't name any of the behaviors. He was older than me and more experienced and he liked that dynamic. He enjoyed that I had no input into his behavior because I didn't have the information.
43:13 Ashley Hesseltine? 100%. But also you want someone that looks like a child. That's there's that whole thing too. But women, it's it's fascinating to me of a 50 year old woman who is seeking out a guy in his 20s. I don't want this to be one sided. What the fuck could you want with them? It feels like if you just want one night with them, we got a how Stella got her groove back thing, great, go on. Off queen, but I to be in a relationship with a guy in his twenties, I wouldn't do it now. So it just is like, how could you possibly, the person's on your level?
43:45 Rayna Greenberg? I mean, it's just, you're like seeking something, which is just like kind of a toy, right? Like, I think that your, the partner you pick is the most important decision you will ever make in your entire life. It's the person who informs how you spend your days, spend your money, gives you advice that you have to give advice to and support. Like, I don't, that's another child to me. That's just another kid to support.
44:04 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. And there's just, I'm into the psychological aspect of it, you know? I think if you were doing something as consenting adults, fine. I really don't want to judge whatever you want to do, if your, your intentions aren't predatory. But when I see a young guy, young twenties, seeking out women who are 50 or plus, who look older, like that feels like a mom thing.
44:30 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
44:30 Ashley Hesseltine? Like, it's all tied into something and this is just me being curious about it. And I think the show is a fascinating watch and I like Nick and Natalie on it. I mean, we've had Nick on the show, we've been on his show, he, they're not on it too much. Like, they're kind of in and out, it's like kind of a Nick and Vanessa in terms of screen time. But I think it's, it's interesting and, um, you know, you guys should check it out.
44:53 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, I like it. Listen, their, their age gap is 17 years. I don't think it's so crazy. I think they were at a very similar stage of life.
44:59 Ashley Hesseltine? They're in the same wavelength. I mean, I would never date someone who wasn't, I'm going to marry now, but I wouldn't date someone who wasn't a millennial. I always say like cultural references, you know, Shashank is seven years younger than me. I, I would never, probably wouldn't go much younger than that, but I used to, to date, I say loosely. I did, I did date a guy and I hooked up with a couple of guys who were 10 years younger than me. But it's funny, when I was in my twenties, I wouldn't date a guy in his thirties, forties, disgusting.
45:22 Rayna Greenberg? I was like, that's so gross. That is the oldest person I could ever imagine in my twenties.
45:27 Ashley Hesseltine? When I was in my thirties, I'm dating guys in their twenties, like whatever. But again, it's, you know, whatever you want to do.
45:32 Rayna Greenberg? It's personal preference. I've always kind of liked people around the same age as me or just slightly younger.
45:36 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. Okay. Well, let's just go through our headlines quickly and we will send you guys off. So TSA, the airports are a shit show.
45:45 Rayna Greenberg? Jesus Christ. I mean, at first I thought like, this is sensationalized, this is like, these are these videos. Like, sometimes people will pull old videos. I mean, it is. Crazy at the airports right now.
45:56 Ashley Hesseltine? It just depends. I mean, I have, I've traveled, you've traveled. We didn't run into anything. It feels like it's only a matter of time. But again, I just, what I hate is when people are like, this isn't happening because I didn't experience in it today at an airport. It's like, yeah, it doesn't fuck it. It's happening. It takes a bunch of different factors for these systems to break down and now TSA workers aren't getting paid. So it's a matter of which ones are going to show up. I mean, you know, it's really all Texas. It happens in red states more, I will say that. But Texas is always a shit show. And it's, I saw LaGuardia, and so it's a mess. And they're talking about some airports may have to get shut down. And that could just mean smaller airports with less staff. But it is a disaster. And I just can't believe like what the government is spending money on. Like Pete Hugs, the Pentagon spent $93 billion in one month and like millions of dollars on what fucking like lobster and furniture and all this stuff.
46:41 Ashley Hesseltine? I can't even talk about it because my heart rate will skyrocket. But like, they have money. We have plenty of money. What they're spending on is fucking sick.
46:48 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, I mean, I just, you know, we, we elect officials to make our lives better. And now the American people are paying the price. And yeah, I will say, I was at JFK, LAX and Reagan Airport in DC this week. I had no problems, but I also have clear. So I don't go through the same lines as everybody else that pay for clear. But I mean, to see that people are just paying the price like this, the one vacation they take a year, the two vacations they take a year, everyone's missing their flights. No one can get anywhere. It's like, I know it's just like a vacation, but it's like heartbreaking.
47:16 Ashley Hesseltine? But it's not always a vacation. It's going to a funeral.
47:20 Rayna Greenberg? I mean, for me, it was work.
47:21 Ashley Hesseltine? Going to see someone, a family member who's sick, going to someone's wedding, going to someone who just had a baby. I mean, it's life's moments that we travel for.
47:29 Rayna Greenberg? I did for other people. I also was just at the airport for work. I was at the airport to do Joe.
47:33 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, I mean, I had a nightmare situation coming back. So I was coming back from Seattle and it had nothing to do with this. It snowed in Seattle in March. The airport was not equipped to de-ice all these planes. I was an hour delayed and then I sat on the plane for three hours.
47:50 Rayna Greenberg? No, it was crazy.
47:51 Ashley Hesseltine? And then I, so I left the hotel at seven forty five in the morning and I got home at six P M. Like it was almost a full like twelve hour travel day and so like sitting on the plane on the runway is like something else.
48:03 Rayna Greenberg? I gotta tell you, I was like.
48:04 Ashley Hesseltine? That's global warming.
48:04 Rayna Greenberg? I had like a really Friday, I just like really could not talk to anybody, didn't have the capacity to do it. I did four shows in two days. I was so tired. I was like, no one talked to me. And then I watched your stories and I was like, I cannot believe the day that she went through and you really like did not talk to me about it. And I was like, this is a day I'm so glad she has a husband because like if I had to be there for you that day, I was just in bed all day. I slept the entire day and I was like, my God, like what she has been through today is unbelievable. And you really did not complain to me about it. And I was like, Shashank really took one for the team on this one. I'm sure you were complaining to him about it all day.
48:38 Ashley Hesseltine? But it's like, I don't know, like, I'm not like, oh my, I mean, I was posting a few things, trying to keep it light, like shit happens, you know? I was lucky to get back, like I did the show with chicks in the office and none of them got back. They also sat on their plane for hours, went out to get de-iced. They ran out of de-icing fluid, then the crew timed out and there were no flights out of Seattle. And they got a private jet. So good for them. The following day, they had to make it to a show in San Diego. They posted all about it. So they made out, but I was like, I just want to get home and I, however long it is, like I was working on the plane. I was trying to make the best of it because I was like, everybody's doing their best, you know? Like I'm, no one on the flight was complaining. I mean, no one was even huffing and puffing.
49:21 Ashley Hesseltine? We were all just like, it is what it is. And when we got off the plane, the flight crew was like, thank you guys for being so great, you know? Like, um, okay, so the next headline, Access Hollywood is canceled after thirty years and we are on it today.
49:35 Rayna Greenberg? We finally made it.
49:36 Ashley Hesseltine? We made it.
49:36 Rayna Greenberg? They canceled the show and they're like, wow, man.
49:39 Ashley Hesseltine? We got in under the gun.
49:41 Rayna Greenberg? For the record, we were booked on this show before it got canceled.
49:44 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. So this is really sad. I mean, it's been so long running, obviously Mario Lopez, A C Slater himself is the co-host. And Kit is who we're going to be with if you guys want to watch today. And we knew we were booked on this and then I saw that it got canceled and I sent it to you and our publicist, it was like, are we still? Are we still on this? Like I booked glam.
50:09 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, like shows are gonna keep running until like this will be the last.
50:12 Rayna Greenberg? Well, some do. I just, I knew that Colbert got canceled and then it was gonna run through the end of the season. So I assumed that it would keep running. But yeah, we made it. We finally made it on to Access Hollywood, you guys. They just had to cancel the show.
50:23 Ashley Hesseltine? That's, that's what happened. They booked us and they were like, this show's over.
50:27 Rayna Greenberg? That's who you guys are booking now?
50:28 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
50:29 Rayna Greenberg? All right. This headline really just, it made me laugh because I, once I dug into it. Lewis Hamilton smitten over Kim Kardashian's 2026 Vanity Fair Oscar party look as romance heats up. And I was like, what in the world did he do? He commented a heart eyes on her Instagram post. Smitten as romance heats up.
50:48 Ashley Hesseltine? Are you serious?
50:49 Rayna Greenberg? Just a heart eyes. That's it. Okay. I feel like I would be really bad as like a super famous person because like.
50:56 Ashley Hesseltine? You'd be doing stuff all the time.
50:57 Rayna Greenberg? I would do stuff like this all the time. If that's the kind of headlines I could get for doing an emoji, I would be acting crazy in these streets.
51:03 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. It's so crazy though. Like, we don't have enough going on. The heart eyes, it's a whole ass headline. Smitten. And lastly, we just have some celeb couple speculation.
51:15 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
51:16 Ashley Hesseltine? People are saying Alex Earl and Tom Brady are done and that Alex Earl may be dating Joe Burrow and Tom Brady may be dating Yael, Scooter Braun's ex-wife.
51:28 Rayna Greenberg? And then Braxton, Alex Earl's ex was allegedly spotted in New York with Sofia Culpo. That's his ex. And she basically said that he had cheated on her with Alex Earl. She, um, I don't know if she outright said it with her whole chest or just implied it, but then she said, it wasn't me.
51:44 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay.
51:44 Rayna Greenberg? It does look like her, but she said it wasn't me. So all of this is speculation, but this is just like a big triangle. Also, Joe Burrow, Alex Earl was just getting into the car with him. Also Tate McCray was in the car.
51:56 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay.
51:56 Rayna Greenberg? So people just, people don't be knowing.
51:58 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay. I don't care that much, but anyway.
52:00 Rayna Greenberg? I don't care about any of these people.
52:00 Ashley Hesseltine? I know. We just wanted to tell you guys, Alex Earl and Joe Burrow seem like, I like that. It seems like a likely match. Tom Brady, that was just, it was fun to, to watch, but that was never gonna, that wasn't like a couple we were like shipping at all. Okay, guys. Well, that is your snack. Catch us on Access Daily. To be clear, Access Daily with Mario and Kit, and that airs on NBC. It is 1:00 PM on the West Coast, 2:00 PM in most East Coast markets, but just check your local listings for NBC Access Daily. And.
52:28 Rayna Greenberg? The episode will be posted online, so if you miss it.
52:32 Ashley Hesseltine? We will post clips from it and post the segment and we're going to be talking about some fun friendship stuff and our show, which will be here in LA with Netflix is a Joke Festival on May 7th. So you guys can get tickets to that. We're so excited. We're planning some really fun things and it's gonna be like hot and sexy and funny and all the things. So get tickets at girlsgottaeat.com and follow us on Instagram at GirlsGottaEatPodcast, also on TikTok, GirlsGottaEatPodcast. I am Ash Hess on Instagram and TikTok, Reina is Rayna greenberg, Rayna greenberg.com for her tour tickets. Watch full video of these episodes on YouTube and now on Spotify and we will see you Monday.
53:11 Rayna Greenberg? Have a good weekend, guys.
53:12 Ashley Hesseltine? Bye.
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