The Snack: Skyscraper Climb, Olympic D*ck Scandal, and Blake and Taylor's Texts

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Being snowed in + a devastating event cancellation Alex Honnold climbing a skyscraper live Sydney Sweeney throwing bras on the Hollywood sign Blake Lively and Taylor Swift's released texts (and a legal breakdown) Winter Olympics crotch enlargement scandal What's happening in Minnesota and the importance of speaking up Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order at https://quince.com/gge. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  This week on the snack, Taylor Swift's text exposed, skyscraper live, and a penis enlarging scandal hits the Olympics. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hello. Rena is boots on the ground, reporting live from the snowstorm of 2026, highly anticipated.

• 0:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Everyone's favorite snowstorm. Um, the snowstorm, what is it called? It was like, I think it's, I think it's, no, they named it.

• 0:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yes. Doesn't this, I don't know the name yet. Does this have a name?

• 0:38Rayna Greenberg?

  It's been having a name. I think it was Fern.

• 0:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  It says winter storm Fern by the Weather Channel. That's what they named it. This is the first I'm hearing about Fern.

• 0:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I actually didn't know we named snowstorms. I thought that it was only reserved for rainstorms and hurricanes.

• 0:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hurricanes, yeah, I mean.

• 0:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Hurricanes. I thought, is there anything less intimidating than Fern?

• 0:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  The names never really, I feel like do the storms justice. But I remember the first time they coined bomb cyclone. Remember that one? They usually do something like that when it comes to winter storms. Like, they just make it sound so apocalyptic. I remember bomb cyclone and just, I remember taking videos of the snow and like setting it to like, she moves her body like a cyclone. Like, that was one of my favorite terms, like snowpocalypse, stuff like that. I prefer those. We don't need these names unless it's.

• 1:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, this doesn't make, yeah, it doesn't make me feel that badass, to be honest. It's been a doozy. People, it's people's favorite topic. Ashley, we'll put it up on the screen. Every store is sold out. You should see Trader Joe's. It looks like COVID all over again. I mean, there's not one thing on a single shelf.

• 1:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Except for Dasani water.

• 1:47Rayna Greenberg?

  There's probably a lot of Dasani.

• 1:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  People have sent me photos, there's memes, but people send me photos from stores that has just Dasani in the whole store. That's all that's there. Everyone has taken all the other water and it's just like pallets of Dasani.

• 2:02Rayna Greenberg?

  That's the free waters on airlines, too. It's like the number one free water they give away. They're like, nobody wanted this. We got it from the Trader Joe's after it got cleared out.

• 2:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, but you are safe.

• 2:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Safe, I'm great. I haven't left the house in two days, but that's just because that's my vibe.

• 2:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. You love snowstorms.

• 2:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, I'm always trying to throw it back. You know, I had no shows to watch. I was out of shows. So I have started Euphoria officially. I have five episodes in. I love it. Big fan.

• 2:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  By the way, Rain, I want to jump in and say that Stephen from Tell Me Lies, like I've seen him in interviews now. He looks like a completely different person. He is an attractive guy. It is crazy how much they ugly him for that show. He looks so heinous on that show and I feel like I can say this with my full chest because I'm not dragging someone's looks. I find him repulsive on this show. He makes my skin crawl and I watched him on Drew Barrymore and he's like a totally good looking guy. And I've sent it to you and I was like, I bet you prefer the Stephen version, don't you? And you said yes. I'm like, Rain and I will never fight over a guy. I mean, I'm married now, but like we literally, our tastes could not be more different.

• 3:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, it's, I actually don't care. Listen, I don't care for the haircut. It's too shaggy and like brushed forward.

• 3:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  You like that penis cut. You like, he looks, he literally looks like a thumb with a little bit of hair on the top. Like they ugly him up for that show so much. I can't believe you. Right. I just, I can't believe you and I like, we don't see, we don't see the world the same way.

• 3:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, so him and Grace Van Patten did this Calvin Klein ad together this week and it is so sexy. Like the two of them together is so gorgeous and even still I was like, I miss the old hair. I, I miss the hair.

• 3:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hate it. Okay. So a lot of stuff has been canceled like throughout the city, but I feel like the thing I'm the saddest about is you were supposed to go to the heated rivalry. Lookalike contest in Washington Square Park on the Sunday that snowstorm Fern hit, but that's so sad. You were going to be reporting on it. Like I'm really upset about that.

• 3:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you and I have been like talking about lookalike contests for years at this point and I feel like they're never in LA. They're always in Tompkins Square or Washington Square Park in New York City, once in a while in Chicago, but like I was so excited.

• 4:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 4:11Rayna Greenberg?

  People send them to me and I also, I missed the Dave Bautista slash The Rock lookalike contest. So I missed the heated rivalry one. People did come out and like snowboard and ski and stuff in Central Park, but no lookalike contest. So we'll have to catch them next time.

• 4:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, it is 71 and sunny here in LA, but it like was a little cloudy yesterday. So we had to wear like a light jacket when we were in Laguna Beach, but you know, we did survive it.

• 4:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Are you okay?

• 4:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Barely. On that note, that was my first time in Laguna Beach. We went this past weekend and as such a diehard Laguna Beach fan of the show, I mean, I felt starstruck, right? I went to Laguna Beach Surf and Sport where Steven used to work. It's still there. I passed by the high school. I went to the coffee shop they used to go to and it has a different name now. Plus we did all this really cute, fun stuff. It's probably one of my favorite places I've ever been in America. We had the best time, but just as like a fan of the franchise, it was so cool to be there because of that. I couldn't believe I hadn't been there sooner. So that's my report.

• 5:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you hear the song? Did you hear the Hilary Duff song in your head the whole time as you walked around?

• 5:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, well, just wait. I'll be doing a whole carousel. Just wait for it.

• 5:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I said to that. Okay, great. You know, I love, you know, I love an Ashley carousel.

• 5:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause it's not, people want to think unwritten, but unwritten is The Hills. It's complete.

• 5:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't want to think that.

• 5:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, okay. I think some people just automatically think the rest is still unwritten and it's a different song.

• 5:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Do people, do people?

• 5:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  People who don't know it like we do.

• 5:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Well, that's never crossed my mind. I walk around with that song in my head the whole time and we weren't really going to cover this tape, but Hilary Duff is on tour for the first time in 18 years. So if you guys want to go see her, she is on tour.

• 5:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  What a comeback. Good for her.

• 5:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. Yeah. It's never over, you know? You can take 18 years off and make her come back.

• 5:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and come clean. Okay. Well, let's just thank our partner for today and we will get into it.

• 6:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Thanks to Quince, get free shipping and 365 day returns on your next order at quince.com/gge. And this is the last time I'm gonna bring it up, I promise, because honestly, I have hit the quota for how many times I can talk about this. But my tour starts tonight. I am very excited to say. I can't wait. Ashley will be with me. And I'm just gonna be adding a couple more shows. So on sale now is Nashville, Charlotte, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Atlanta. You can get those at rainagreenberg.com.

• 6:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exciting. Okay, yes, I can't even believe it. Like, the snack and the tour starts tonight.

• 6:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Tonight. So that's it. I'm gonna stop talking about it. I can't wait to see you guys.

• 6:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're fine.

• 6:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't wait. Honestly, Ashley's never seen me do comedy. I can't stop laughing at it.

• 6:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, I saw you do comedy on my tour. But I am really excited to see all you guys this weekend. And, you know, I wrote a few jokes, too. I got a few jokes I'm gonna test out when I host these shows. But I'm glad you added those cities, too. That'll be really fun.

• 7:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, that'll be great. So rainagreenberg.com, and then you guys can stop hearing me talk about it. If you just sell out the shows, then I'll leave you alone.

• 7:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. I'll stop harassing you. Okay, so we're gonna kick this off with a climbing report. You know, we're not climbing enthusiasts, but a lot of climbing in the news. So Alex Honnold, who is the climber from the documentary Free Solo, who is probably the most famous free solo climber in the world in that he doesn't use any equipment, he just goes raw dog. And there's a documentary called Free Solo, which I love. There is another documentary called The Dawn Wall. I'm obsessed with this in general. I don't care about climbing otherwise, but this, I just find it so fascinating and hard to comprehend. So I'm super into this. And he climbed one of the highest skyscrapers in the world in Taipei, Taiwan.

• 7:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  The building is called Taipei 101, 1,667 feet, 508 meter summit. The building looked crazy. It had all these different structures on it that he had to navigate. There was like this point at the top. It was a crazy fucking building. It wasn't just like your standard skyscraper, by the way. And he climbed this in like 90 minutes, and it was streamed live on Netflix. It was a Netflix event.

• 8:19Rayna Greenberg?

  And, okay, so I had two thoughts while I was watching this. First of all, so, okay, he's not on, like you said, there's no equipment. He's like, not on belay, any type of rope. So if he falls, he dies. So we're live streaming, somebody potentially dies.

• 8:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean-

• 8:30Rayna Greenberg?

  So, I had two thoughts. First was, I cannot believe I'm watching like this. Like, this is the most stress I've felt watching any sporting event in my life, because like, somebody could actually die. And second thought, I thought was, that doesn't look that hard.

• 8:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  What?

• 8:44Rayna Greenberg?

  I was like, if this was tall enough for, if this was the appropriate height for me, I could do this.

• 8:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, you couldn't climb one first, like, you couldn't get up that very first ledge. Don't even fool yourself. I thought it looked crazy. I, it's hard for me to watch. So we, I was watching with Shashank. His palms were wet. They were sweaty. If you look in the comments on Netflix, like, Harry Jowsey was in those, like, everybody was like, my palms are sweaty. I'm sweaty. Like, I don't feel, my stomach turns, literally, when I see the images of him on this building, and I, I feel like sick. I feel like anxiety, feel like I'm gonna throw up. I don't really consider myself to have a fear of heights, but it is crazy to watch. It was windy. He's just up there, listening to his heavy metal.

• 9:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I have a question. I actually didn't really think about this, because like, yes, obviously you're stressed out, so your hands are sweaty. How does that got, do you think he takes pills, like, anti-sweat pills?

• 9:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, well, did you-

• 9:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Your hands have to be like, a certain climate temperature, don't you think?

• 9:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, did you watch it? He has his, his thing is, the only thing he has on him is his pouch with all of his chalk.

• 9:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, it's chalk?

• 9:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  He chalks up the whole time.

• 9:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Sorry, Ashley, I'm not, I'm not a climber expert like you are.

• 9:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  He has one thing on his person, and it's his pouch with his chalk. He chalks the whole way up. You can't miss it. You didn't watch this. You did not watch this shit.

• 10:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, I did!

• 10:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Now I know you didn't watch it.

• 10:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, I did!

• 10:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do not try to appropriate my culture. No, okay-

• 10:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe with men's stuff, I only have pay atten, dude stuff, I only have pay attention.

• 10:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  The main thing is, is that. And so, and he was getting hot, and that's the first thing his wife said to him when he met her at the, almost at the summit. He had, they couldn't be on the top together. He had to use the ladder to get to the very top, whatever. It's, if you guys watched, you know, but he met her up there, and she was like, were you hot? I was thinking, because then the building gets hot. Okay, so, I just have so much to say, like- He's so incredible. He's such an inspiration. I just can't. It's so outside of my realm of anything I would ever do in my life. So I just love to see it. And it's this insane thing to televise live. Truly something where you could just die. Like, he's good enough that they would never send someone up there that that couldn't do it, right? Like, he knew he was gonna be able to do it. But still, one slip, one thing goes wrong, and you

• 10:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  fall to your death. So many of these guys have fallen to their death. So to televise that for, do you know how much he got paid? This is my rabbit hole of the day.

• 11:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh my God, what?

• 11:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, he got paid under a million dollars. Mid-six figures, they're saying. So, like,

• 11:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Who pays him?

• 11:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Netflix. I'm saying, what he got paid from Netflix. For Netflix, people are saying 500,000, people are saying 300,000. He won't say. He's like embarrassed to say. To televise this event, a live event on Netflix is such a huge deal. To pay him, I mean, again, this is like whoever's negotiating on his behalf, but this should have been millions upon millions of dollars. So I just want to read the quote from him. People are asking how much you got paid. He said, I'm not gonna say it's an embarrassing amount. He told the New York Times. Actually, if you put it in the context of mainstream sports, it's an embarrassingly small amount. You know, Major League Baseball players get like 170 million dollar contracts. He says, like, someone you haven't even heard of, or that no one cares about. Like, literally no-name athletes. And again, he's not doing a whole season. He did this for 90 minutes,

• 11:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  but he had to train. How much did he have to train for this? And for, I just feel like he should have been paid more.

• 12:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely.

• 12:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so I'm watching it, and I am really disliking the commentators. So there was three. There was Elle Duncan, who's like a lifelong sports anchor. She was fine. And then there was a professional rock climber named Emily Harrington. And then the third commentator on the ground, fucking in his ear, commentating this whole event, was this WWE wrestler who was the worst. Like, it felt like an insult to have a WWE wrestler even do this. Like, I know as a, as a sport, if you want to call it a sport, I know it takes strength, endurance, all the things. It's not a real sport to me. It's entertainment. That's in the name. Like, you didn't need a third person at all. But to have someone, he had the coldest takes. He had like a weird vibe I didn't like. It was hard for me to

• 12:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  almost watch. And I just felt like it was such an insult to have this WWE wrestler be the person that gets to commentate and be in Alex's ear this whole time.

• 12:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, it's not the same vibe. It's a total vibe shift to have like this wrestler commentating, climbing a building. It's like when they brought the UFC out at the Golden Globes.

• 13:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Literally, that's how it felt.

• 13:03Rayna Greenberg?

  What are we doing?

• 13:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  The wrong energy match.

• 13:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Why are we trying to make this happen? Like, why are we trying to make this happen at all?

• 13:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't understand how he got that gig. But anyway, so I started looking up, what do people think about the commentators? And people fucking hated them. And because it was live, people are bombing Netflix's comments in real time. Take them, take their mics away. Get these commentators off the air. They shouldn't, we just want to hear him talk. I do think there should have been commentators, because if not, it would have been pretty silent at a lot of points. But I had the most problem with this WWE wrestler who truly contributed nothing. And I don't know how he got that gig.

• 13:39Rayna Greenberg?

  There's also an art to talking while people are also trying to do other stuff and listen to other stuff. So like, you think about it all the time when you take like a workout class and you're like, I am trying to listen to the music, but I want somebody to motivate me so I can enjoy this. So like, there is, there's certain instructors I won't take, because they just talk too much. I mean, there is, there's a real art to this. And if you don't know how to do it, then it is just distracting.

• 13:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, you want to hear the professional rock climber talk about what we're watching, offer insights? But I just, anyway, I'm so, I'm so happy. I love him and his wife. And, you know, they're so cute. And this was just such an inspirational feat. And I, you know, that's really like, all I have to say about that part of it is like, he's just, he's incredible.

• 14:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, so I have to ask you a question. So I read that also that this was in his ear as well, as he was climbing. Was the commentators, is this true?

• 14:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, they can talk back and forth to him, but I don't know if he could turn them on and off, because he also put his music on. He likes to listen to Tool. He likes a little like heavier rock. And then they, he lost music and he lost calm at one point. But yes, they are talking to him. And there was a couple of points where he's talking and they cut him off. They don't, I think it's hard to communicate, by the way. Like, let's talk about, he's on the top of this building, they're on the ground and, you know, wires are getting crossed, but... Yeah, like that's what I'm saying. Like I was telling Shashank, I was like, I, if I were Alex, I would have been like, I need to approve the commentators who are gonna be in my fucking ear while I do this. Like, I'm wondering if he got a say, cuz I don't think he chose Seth Rollins from the WWE.

• 15:05Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I would pick my two meanest friends and I would have them talk shit back and forth and then like sometimes some music. But like, I just wanna laugh at my funny friends talk shit on stuff. Like, that's what would keep me going. Like, that's what energizes me in the morning.

• 15:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I know, like, if I get to pick, I'm like, Beyonce. Like, if we have her just talk to me. I don't know if I'm gonna have her music in my ears.

• 15:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Alright, well, moving on to another climber of our time, Sydney Sweeney. So Sydney Sweeney climbed the Hollywood sign in the middle of the night to promote her new bra company. I mean, these videos are so embarrassing. So let me give you a little background. Sydney Sweeney has a new, I guess lingerie line. It is being financed by Jeff Bezos, allegedly. And she had no permission granted to do this, but, which is the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce said. But she, in the middle of the night, climbed the Hollywood sign with a couple of people and these large garland strings of bras to just like string them along the Hollywood sign. I don't really understand. It's also, it looks so sloppy, like they have her doing it.

• 16:11Rayna Greenberg?

  And I kept thinking, like, if this was somebody else that I, like, really rooted for, would I be like, yes, bitch, go off? But like, if you guys watched the video, it's actually really embarrassing to think that, like, she had Jeff Bezos-type money. And she is climbing the Hollywood sign in the middle of the night with no permit, trying to throw her bras over it. I mean, this could have been a funny thing, I guess. But it's so sloppily done. It looks so weird. There's a million ways to have done this and made it look cool. She chose none of them.

• 16:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's such weirdo energy. Like, I know it's not graffiti, but it still feels like vandalizing a landmark, you know, without permission. Like, it's giving, like, she litters. You know what I mean? Like, her energy is like someone who thinks it's funny to fuck shit up and have other people deal with the consequences. Like, does someone have to go get the bras? Now, like, does like a park ranger or someone have to go clean up this mess? I don't know, I could be wrong, but like, it's just like weird energy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's like someone that's like throws something on the ground and it's like, that's funny. That's not my problem. That's her whole energy, I think, is just like, doesn't give a fuck in like a bad way. And I am obviously not a fan and I'm all for like a stunt, but it's just like,

• 17:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  is it, are she trying to be a badass breaking the law? Is that the vibe? But like, what are we doing here? Like, I just, I'm not a fan of anything, like the Jeff Bezos backing of it all. I'm just like, while we're here, it's sexy season coming up, lingerie season. Like, if y'all are looking for a celeb lingerie line to buy, do Rihanna Savage Fenty. Better quality, better looking Rihanna lingerie all day, if you are trying to choose. Okay, so let's move on to such a hot topic. And this is the text between Blake Lively and Taylor Swift, but they're not leaked, right? They're released in a lawsuit.

• 18:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm gonna break, I'm gonna break the whole lawsuit down, figure what happened. But, you know, last week, we saw an avalanche of correspondence between Blake Lively and not only Taylor Swift, but Matt Damon and Ben Affleck and Ryan Reynolds messages. And we saw Jenny Slate's messages and it was an onslaught of stuff you could never imagine seeing in your entire life. I mean, the private correspondence of Taylor Swift, Ben Affleck, the most powerful people in the world. You never think you'd have a window into something so crazy.

• 18:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  It feels invasive. We should not be seeing these. I mean, I'm a look, but.

• 18:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, I'm gonna be looking. So you and I were like, we're gonna get into the, what should we do first? The contents of the text messages or how this is able to be released?

• 18:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, there's just so much, like, if you care, you probably looked at what you want to see. But Blake Lively and Taylor Swift are kind of talking shit about Justin Baldoni, and they are conspiring to kind of manipulate a situation. It sounds like Blake wants to rewrite something, whatever. She brings Taylor in to kind of have her back, and they're talking shit about him. And it's so funny, because people like latched on to a few things that Taylor said about Justin Baldoni. And I did a whole reel on this, you guys can go watch it. Like, she called him a bitch. She said he's gonna bring out his tiny violin. I'm like, if you think that's bad, you've never read women's text messages, especially when conspiring against a man. Like, maybe you don't even have a best friend. Because this is how, this is tame. This is vanilla.

• 19:35Rayna Greenberg?

  This is the kind of stuff that I say when I don't even hate a person that much, honestly. Like, I mean, you have to assume Taylor Swift had been listening to Blake Lively complain about her work environment for months, if not a whole year at this point. And that's the worst she could come up with. If you told me every day for months that your work environment was terrible, I would be saying some unbelievably horrible stuff to support you.

• 19:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is what best friends do. If my best friend hates him, I hate him. What are we doing here? It's girlhood.

• 20:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I hate him more if you hate him, honestly.

• 20:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, 100%. Yeah, like, when you, your best friend gets you fired up about somebody, they have to talk you down then. Like, then it's just like, okay, let's just like, take it back. It's like, you got me all gassed up.

• 20:15Rayna Greenberg?

  How many times have I said to you, like, I might be more mad about this than you are?

• 20:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, 100%. I'm like, great, I'm gonna take it down a notch. Okay, can you kind of tell me about the Ben Affleck and Matt Damon stuff?

• 20:25Rayna Greenberg?

  So she emailed them. The one that I read in full was the message between Blake Lively and Ben Affleck. She reaches out to him and basically says, can you look at my cut of the film? And this has been a fucking nightmare. There could be a documentary written about me filming this film. He's such a nightmare. You know, I don't expect you to do anything, but I'd like you to watch my cut of the film. The whole drama seems to have stemmed from the fact that, like, Baldoni has his own cut of the film, and Blake Lively and Brian Reynolds have their cut of the film. And in their cut, also Taylor Swift's song is included in that. And so they're kind of fighting over, like, whose cut is gonna be used.

• 21:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she has, or these people that are really powerful. And is like kind of basically using them against Justin Baldoni. I'm not saying that's right. I mean, it's all it's such a mess. Like, clearly, I think none of us would like if we poured our heart and soul into something. Obviously, he's the one that optioned this movie in the first place. And then you have an actress come in who has all these connections and all this power and tries to take control. If that's what happened, of course, no one would like that. And of course, she is the villain. Like, if that's what all went down, I don't know. It has gotten so messy at this point. I like, forget parts of it. I forget whose side I'm on, who I was on, and I changed. And like, now I'm just, it's pure entertainment at this point.

• 21:44Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, it's so interesting when people are like, whose side are you on? And I sort of feel similar in the Beckham situation where I'm like, I don't know these people.

• 21:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 21:52Rayna Greenberg?

  It's actually hard to be on a side. It sounds like everybody has been kind of being an asshole to everybody. And I don't know these people personally.

• 21:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And these are like rich, this is again, above my pay grade. These type of people.

• 22:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 22:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  These rich, famous people. So they did Ben Affleck and Matt Damon do anything? I should know this. This is a

• 22:08Rayna Greenberg?

  My, all I saw was email, outgoing emails.

• 22:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Outgoing. Okay. So these are out. And you and I have just been discussing how this can happen and how it is our biggest fear unlocked. Like, I think anyone is, this is your most private thoughts. I mean, to have your text messages be leaked. I mean, if I was in a lawsuit and they said, we're gonna release your text, I would say, drop the lawsuit. And that, and I would even say that openly. If they were like, hey, Ashley, why'd you drop the lawsuit? Because they said they're gonna release my texts. And then everybody would understand.

• 22:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely. And so I have a whole legal breakdown for you guys, which I'm gonna try to make really fun. It was so fun to research it. And it is a lot easier than you would ever expect for your text messages and your emails to all be released.

• 22:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Brain a doll.

• 22:53Rayna Greenberg?

  And it actually, and it has, and you can't stop it. So here's what happens. So Blake Lively files a lawsuit, right? And then that immediately opens up a discovery phase. So what happens is Justin Baldoni's lawyers are allowed to request anything they want. Text messages, emails, communication. And her team must produce it. And if they have to collect that stuff and produce it for them. If she refuses, they can compel her to, they can sanction her to. They can draw negative inferences for her refusing. But could she have stopped this before filing? Yes, before filing. But once she has filed, you can't opt out of the discovery phase. So all of your communication is fair game. And a lawyer will tell you minute one, once you file this lawsuit, all of your communication is fair game.

• 23:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  But what do you mean all of your communication? Like, this is also Taylor Swift's privacy.

• 23:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I will explain that further to you. Okay, so how hard is a subpoena people's texts? Once the lawsuit exists, it's really hard to block it. Okay, it's routine, it's expected, it's very hard to fight successfully. So you might be saying, why are these public? There are three reasons why private text messages might become public. They're filed as court exhibits, they're quoted in motions, and they're leaked by PR. So basically, now that Justin Baldoni's lawyers have those messages, people can leak them. So what about people's privacy? Why should Taylor Swift be pulled into this? How is this fair to her? Okay, if Blake Lively's texts, as you mentioned, Taylor Swift or include her texts, they relate to motive, credibility, timeline, state of mind.

• 24:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Taylor Swift becomes a third-party witness, even if she did nothing wrong. And courts do not protect third parties just because they're famous or might be embarrassing to them.

• 24:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 24:34Rayna Greenberg?

  They can, they can seal this information, but it is very hard to seal information. You would seal information if somebody was grossly abused, if somebody is a minor. But basically, Taylor Swift, she can request redactions. She can argue for a protective order, and she can ask to keep her name out of public filings. But she cannot stop her name from appearing in someone else's text messages. And those text messages had to be produced by Blake Lively because she filed this suit.

• 25:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Release the Epstein files is the bottom line. What I'm hearing is really, we should have the Epstein files, every single word of that. No, okay, so I guess I just like-

• 25:15Rayna Greenberg?

  You can't stop people from being dragged through the mud. Like, Taylor Swift can be like, how did I get dragged into it? You're a third-party witness now. You were involved in these text messages, in this lawsuit, and nobody owes you legal privacy just because you are famous and it's gonna embarrass you. That's what the law says.

• 25:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  It just doesn't feel fair. But I mean, so I guess- It falls on Blake Lively, like she shouldn't have done this, or she shouldn't have gone down this road, or her being anyone who goes down this road, right? Like, if you decide to file this, your lawyers are gonna tell you, they're gonna come for your texts, they're gonna come for your emails, you have to produce all this stuff, and you would just have to say, "Okay." Like, if that is what caused a rift between her and Taylor Swift, I get it.

• 25:57Rayna Greenberg?

  And they can subpoena anybody. So, you and I know an agent that was subpoenaed also. So, they can subpoena your agent, your producers, they can subpoena anybody that was on the set, anybody around them, because it's substantial evidence, essentially, to support one side. So, if you ever texted with Blake Lively about any of this, you could be dragged into this.

• 26:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  But that just doesn't feel fair. It feels like we should have, there should be something about privacy. Like, I should be able to text and communicate with whoever I want, knowing that, like, it won't get out there because someone wants to have a lawsuit.

• 26:35Rayna Greenberg?

  So, the only people I think that are protected is, what, spousal protection, right? So, communication between spouses. But like, if I said to you, "I did this thing, it's really bad," you could be like, "Don't tell me, I don't want to be an accessory to this crime," or whatever. So, essentially, like, Taylor Swift is a third-party accessory to this crime. It feels super unfair, and honestly, like, it's, everything I read says that, like, your lawyers will say this to you minute one. If you file this, your whole life will become public.

• 26:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, right, and then I'd be like, "I'm not doing that."

• 27:02Rayna Greenberg?

  There's no...

• 27:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it's crazy, you're rich enough. Like, you, why did, who started this? Did she start this? I can't remember. I literally can't remember, it was like two years ago.

• 27:15Rayna Greenberg?

  So, my understanding was that the lawsuit started because she was filing, like, a hostile work environment claim.

• 27:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that's what I...

• 27:22Rayna Greenberg?

  And then he countersued, and then she also countersued, basically claiming that what he has done has harmed her reputation to the point that she has lost all future income. So, she sued him for like $140 million in lost income. I think it would feel a little different to people if she was suing him for a dollar for a hostile work environment. That, on principle, I'm gonna make a statement about what men do... Women in the workplace.

• 27:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I feel like I just, God, I've forgotten some of this because it was just like we saw things happen during the press tour and then she came out and said all this stuff and then everybody was like, oh, my God, he's like a

• 27:55Rayna Greenberg?

  A phony and a monster.

• 27:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like he's the villain here and then it all changed and then, but then you write about, remember his smear campaign, all that stuff. I'm like forgetting and then it came out that she kind of seemed like she was lying about stuff. I mean, this has just been a wild ride and I'm not trying to get off of the ride.

• 28:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, we've said this since the beginning. They both sound like they're being pretty awful.

• 28:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 28:13Rayna Greenberg?

  It's hard to say who originated it, who was worse. I mean, Jenny Slate in those messages, who plays his sister in the film, also said he was unbelievably terrible on the set. The claims from her also back up that he was so terrible. It's just so much he said, she said, I can't get enough of it. I mean, never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd be able to read Taylor Swift's text messages.

• 28:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  With Mike Lively.

• 28:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it's one of the most powerful people alive.

• 28:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, there's some stuff that you're reading, you're like, God, this doesn't feel relevant or pertinent to the lawsuit, but I guess it kind of is. It just really feels invasive.

• 28:47Rayna Greenberg?

  It's sort of like a character assessment at that point. Like you're saying like this is who she is as a person. And that's why it's relevant, I guess.

• 28:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Again, this isn't about how you feel about these people. I mean, it's obviously we all have biased in some way about how we feel about this case, but I do like seeing a lot of the commentary and like, these texts aren't even bad. Like you should see my texts with my friends. Like I do feel like there's a lot of rational people being like, what did you expect about these two women talking about this man that they were trying to take down, whether you agree with them doing that or not, but I guess that's what the texts are trying to prove. Okay, so let's just take a quick break and talk about Quince and then we will get back into it.

• 29:28Rayna Greenberg?

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• 30:08Rayna Greenberg?

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• 30:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, what do we have next?

• 30:55Rayna Greenberg?

  A crotch enlarging scandal has hit the Winter Olympics.

• 31:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  The Winter Olympics haven't even started and we have Big Dick Pole Vaulter, the sequel. If you guys remember from the Olympics in 2024, the Big Dick Pole Vaulter, where his like dick got caught. We like talked about this at length, but this is different. This is, this actually isn't as spicy as it sounds, but Raina, you can tell us about it.

• 31:21Rayna Greenberg?

  So, so basically, um, the Norway's suit technicians, so the people that build the suits for the country's star ski jumpers, were caught on video adding stitching to the suits. So basically adding, adding more surface area to the crotch area. So why would anybody add stitching to the crotch area to win? So a larger suit means the jumper can fly farther through the air, like how a bigger sail would make a boat sail faster.

• 31:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's for performance. It's like, it's like, it's like deflating footballs, like a cheating type of thing is what it is. It's not for aesthetics. Cause I'm like, why wouldn't you want to look like you have a big dick? I mean, the Big Dick Pole Vaulter got so much attention. But I guess it's, it's, it's like a cheating thing.

• 32:08Rayna Greenberg?

  So there's rules that state an athlete's suit cannot be more than four centimeters larger than the surface area of their body. So I mean, you do stand to win if you have a bigger dick.

• 32:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then there's these rumors around it that some of the athletes were injecting their dicks with hyaluronic acid. Like there's, I think it's not a rumor, right? They weren't actually making their dicks bigger. You wouldn't do that. You're an athlete. You're, you're taking care of your body more than the average person.

• 32:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, since as little as one extra centimeter can add five meters of length to a jump. And apparently it's not that uncommon. So according to this German tabloid, some skiers even go as far as to use hyaluronic acid filled sleeves to manipulate the size of their crotch. They're slipping a sleeve in.

• 32:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, sorry. I was just like, this seems a little extreme.

• 32:56Rayna Greenberg?

  To win the Olympics though, get a little filler in your penis.

• 32:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I thought they were putting, like injecting their dicks, like your ass.

• 33:01Rayna Greenberg?

  No, but I'm saying.

• 33:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  You've got a penis enlargement.

• 33:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Ashley, I want people to come to the tour.

• 33:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, sorry. I'll look at that.

• 33:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Just leave it. No, it's okay. You can leave it. You know what? You guys, just come to the tour. I'm going to talk about it, so.

• 33:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I didn't know if it was on the setlist because I've never seen your comedy.

• 33:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll tell them close in the hour, actually. It's my closer. Penis enlargement.

• 33:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 33:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  So this one hits close to home. Okay, well, to wrap it up, the Winter Olympics are starting soon and we will report back. We have the heated rivalry, guys, as the torchbearers, right? And I just, there, if it's anything like the last Olympics we reported on, we did a whole episode, remember? Two years ago, so. Let's talk about that. Draw him out of these.

• 33:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, we are gonna close with a, just a bit of a more serious message. Um, following the murder in Minneapolis by ICE this past weekend. Um, obviously this is constantly on mine and Ashley's minds and what is happening in this country. And so, um, we know this is a fun show, but we want to also acknowledge it because we are, we've been deeply heartbroken by what's going on there. And, um, Ashley and I, I say this all the time, we performed there so much. It is just the kindest, most wonderful people in the country and our heart breaks for the city of Minneapolis and. What they're going through.

• 34:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, again, this is something I could talk about for literal hours. This is all I'm talking about with my friends and family, and I post a lot on social media. And so if you guys want to see more from us, we do post on our personal Instagrams. That's all I do. That's all I've been doing for, for weeks and for, for years, for 10 years. I mean, Raina and I have been talking about this stuff for literally since the podcast started. And when like families were being ripped away at the border under the Trump administration. So this is just something that's always been a cause that we have stood for. And you guys know how we feel about the administration and what is happening in this country. And I cannot believe what we're seeing happening in Minnesota and why they're being targeted. It's so disgusting. They're targeting Maine, like all these places that never asked for this.

• 34:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, it's just purely politically motivated against who Trump considers to be his enemies. Like, I could go on and on and on. But yes, like, someone else has been murdered. Renee Good was just a few weeks ago. And this man, Alex Preddy, you guys have seen this by now, this 37-year-old ICU nurse who worked with veterans and who seemed like a really wonderful person and was defending a woman who had been pushed down by an ICE agent and was filming, as we need to do to hold these people accountable. And he did have a weapon on him. It was concealed. They had already disarmed him, and then they shot him to his death 10 times. I mean, it's just so sick.

• 35:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I think we, we all, for the most part, we, we all feel this way. And we unfortunately are watching murder on our phones. But fortunately, we have proof of what's being done, like, and then the government is still lying about what happened, even though the video proof is there.

• 36:03Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, it's, it's horrible to watch this on your phone and then watch people justify this violence. And it's, it's people that you are sworn to protect, that you are gunning down. It's these people that I have to be afraid of, people with guns in their cities.

• 36:18Rayna Greenberg?

  These are things that are caught on video and you would think it would be impossible to spin this, but it is being spun by the administration and we will continue to speak out about this as long as we can, but you know, it's, it's hard to sort of watch this and go on with your day. Like this was happening, I want to just like validate, like it's hard to digest that this is what's happening on your phone and then be like, I have to make dinner for my children. I have to go to work. I mean, I was watching this on my phone. I had to get on stage at the stand and tell jokes. I mean, it's hard to live in these two realities where you're like, I want to compartmentalize this for a second, but this is next door to me. This is no longer like so far away. I can, I can turn a blind eye and that's at least the good thing I think that has happened through this,

• 37:02Rayna Greenberg?

  through these terrible things that keep happening one by one. And you're like, I can't even recover from the last thing, is that we are finally seeing people from both sides speak out and it has been a real explosion of that, especially on, on Saturday night and into Sunday this week, that I saw people that hadn't spoken out in a long time. And I, I tried to sort of stop my anger because, you know, I, I sat there and thought, you know, a lot of y'all that were pretty loud about Charlie Kirk are pretty quiet about what's happening here. And one by one, I did start to see more people say stuff and I don't want to villainize anybody for changing their mind. And that one meme got really a lot of traction. It was green and it sounded like it's okay to, it's okay to change your mind and it's okay to say like, I made a mistake or I thought I voted for something

• 37:46Rayna Greenberg?

  and this is not what I'm getting. And it's like never too late. And I want to like not villainize people now that voted for that. I want to like be proud of people for like finally seeing what's in front of their faces.

• 37:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  At this point, the government, they don't, they don't believe this either. They're, they know they're lying to you. They know some of these people will still believe them. Like they, they're watching the videos too. Like you're watching these people fumble and bumble on Fox News. Even Fox News is kind of like trying to be like, hey, this isn't what happened. And how do you, how do you justify this? And so... To people who can still defend this now, in this moment, who can double down on having no empathy, no critical thinking, who can triple down in their hypocrisy, I'm done speaking to them. Like, on my platforms, I want to speak to the people that want change. Like, I say that, and, like, I don't think I can change their minds. Like, it's not gonna be me. You know, at this point, if you can still defend this,

• 38:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  we, there's, like, you're too far gone. And so, to the people who still want to save our democracy, who care about others, who are appalled by everything going on, like, I just want to remind all of you that we have power. We really do. And the people of Minnesota have demonstrated this in such an inspirational way. They went on strike. They took over the streets of the whole city in below-freezing temperatures. They have stopped at nothing to help and protect their neighbors. They have said, "No, we are not putting up with this." And there has been a shift. It works. Like, we just have to band together and, you know, we will continue to post resources. I think Emily in your phone is a great resource for how to get in touch with your senators and how to just be relentless with them.

• 39:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  They work for us. Like, we pay their salaries, like, just harass them, you know, like legally, like, but non-stop. And we have power in our spending. I mean, you saw what happened when people canceled their ABC, Hulu, Disney+ because of Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, like, I just want to plant the seed now that, like, that is what it's gonna take. It is gonna take some of these strikes and spending. Like, think about now where you spend your money. Like, I was watching Scott Galloway talk about this. Like, I just want to plant the seed now. Like, this is what it's gonna take. I mean, this is the only way. Everything is about money and power, and we have money and power. Like, everything corrupt that happens in the world, follow the money. I mean, it's just, all that's, all these people care about is just money, power.

• 40:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's all greed. And it's really just become this oligarchy. And the way we can fight back is with our spending. And so, I don't really have the answers right now, but I just want to kind of get people thinking in that way and, like, remember that we do have power and your voice matters. It doesn't, you don't have a big platform. You don't have to be an influencer, but like, speak out. Show other people that it's okay to speak out and that you're on the right side of history. And the people that aren't, and they're just going about their day and they're posting business as usual and truly have made that choice. It is a choice.

• 40:43Rayna Greenberg?

  We see you, and I won't forget. You know, I was really blown away by the amount of people that spoke up this time. And every voice like really does matter to me. And I think every day, like, what can I possibly contribute to this conversation? That is not anger, that is not sadness. You know, what am I really bringing to the table? But I saw this quote, it said culturally influential people shape our permission structures. So if you're a food influencer, a fashion influencer, if you're a car influencer, if you have the smallest platform, 3,000 people, like you putting it on the internet and just saying, I don't stand for it, gives other people permission to say, hey, I saw this other opinion online. This is a thought I also share. It empowers people with no platform to turn to their parents and say, I don't agree with this stuff.

• 41:26Rayna Greenberg?

  And it just gives other people the tools. I mean, we joke about it all the time, like when we say, like, if you want to bring like a toy or something, a sex toy into the bedroom, you say like, I saw this thing on this podcast. And like, that's a good way to open up conversations with other people is I just, I saw this thing that this influencer posted. And so even if you have 3,000 followers and you feel like that doesn't matter, like it still matters. And the amount of messages that like Ashley and I get when we post this stuff, just saying, thank you for sharing this, thank you for like actually talking about what's going on. It just, it means so much. I cry reading them. Ashley posts way more than I do. I'm sure she gets way more messages than I do.

• 42:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's every day. It's an onslaught every day of thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. It matters. And I'm not saying that to gas myself up, but it matters. And like the people that are like, you've just helped me feel like not crazy. Like I look to you guys and I admire you and it just, it means the world. So thank you guys for those messages. And yes, to Raina's point, like we've also had people say like, you helped me to speak up. Like even people who are influencers, you know, like I've seen what you guys have done and inspired me and encouraged me to do the same and find the words. And then that's just a ripple effect too. And I just, but like it can't just be posted on social media. There has to be other action as well. So find out what that action is with, what you want to get in touch with your senators, you want to join a protest, you want to boycott these companies.

• 42:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, we have power in other ways and we'll continue to speak about that. And you know, I just want to say like, Alex Preddy was not the first person ICE has killed. He was literally like the 10th, and that's not even talking about all the people that are unaccounted for in these detention centers. The five-year-old little boy that got sent to a detention center, the two-year-old girl. These kids are like screaming outside. They're like inside this detention center in Texas. Like you can hear their screams, like a dozen people have died by the hands of ICE. We know about the white citizens the most with names that are easier to pronounce. These are the ones that make the news. These are also the ones that have probably been filmed more for various reasons, but it's not, he's not the first, neither was Renee Good, and they won't be the last.

• 43:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  And so I just wanna remember him, remember all these people, and my like, heart is with their families and their friends, and this was so just like heart-shattering. And especially when you think about someone that just wanted to do right in the world and lost his life to our government while he was trying to protect someone else.

• 43:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, thank you to everybody who uses their voice to do this and has gone to protests, has supported a small business, has, I feel so like emotional about this, but this is on our minds constantly. So until we are really forced to, we will always speak up for those who can't speak up and speak out about this. And for anybody who just posted anything on Instagram or talked to a family member or anybody, thank you. Very emotional.

• 44:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I mean, it's, I can't, like, I, you know, I just wanna remind you guys, it is so not normal to see someone get killed on your fucking device and go about your day. I, we were at lunch and we, at this weekend, we had to leave. I just started crying, I couldn't stop, like, it will just come out of nowhere. I can't, like, some of these people, I can't, like, I can't see the picture of that little boy, I can't see the picture of Alex Preddy, I fucking lose it. And we'll keep this in just because I think, you know, it's relatable, but if you feel like you can't fucking keep it together sometimes, take care of yourself, get off of your device. Like, we can't just be in this constant, like, scroll hole, even though sometimes it

• 45:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  can feel good because you see people that are aligned with you, you know, but like, it will exhaust you and then we cannot be effective. So take care of yourself and we will continue to.

• 45:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Give resources when we can.

• 45:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, so like Ashley said, Emily in your phone is fantastic. We love Jessica Yellen. Both of them are great resources.

• 45:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Indivisible team. Indivisible is great. Guys, they're like, those are my three. I feel like Jessica Yellen for your news, Emily in your phone for a lot of the like calling your senators, and then indivisible for a lot of the other stuff.

• 45:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, we love you guys. And different tone to end this one, but thank you for listening and sticking through it.

• 45:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so girlsgottaeat.com, Rayna greenberg.com for her tour tickets and the tour starts tonight. And I am Ash Hess on Instagram if you want to see me over there ranting and raving. Reina is reina dot greenberg, girlsgotta eat podcast on Instagram and TikTok. This was all out of order, but who fucking cares? And subscribe on YouTube, share this episode with a friend, and we will see you Monday.

• 46:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a good weekend, guys.

• 46:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.