Giggling about surprises, smuggling, and sponges

Hannah pulled off a big surprise and Paige is slacking on her spy skills. shop summer merch

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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:32Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 0:40Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 0:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 0:49Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 1:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 1:05Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 1:14Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time, and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 1:18Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social, like, I love everyone, but like...

• 1:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 1:22Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising, and you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:36Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing, it's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 1:43Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 1:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly, women deserve.

• 1:48Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 1:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 1:54Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 2:03Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 2:06Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 2:06Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need, we don't need to be on in the car.

• 2:09Hannah Berner?

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• 2:21Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 2:22Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 2:28Paige DeSorbo?

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• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

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• 3:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, Gigglers?

• 3:25Speaker 02

  Carrie, fix your Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:37Hannah Berner?

  Hello, Gigglytroners. Gigglytron, like Transformers, Gigglytron.

• 3:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I have something in my eye, and it's actually a problem.

• 3:48Hannah Berner?

  Okay, you could have dealt with this, you could have dealt with this the entire morning.

• 3:51Paige DeSorbo?

  It just happened.

• 3:54Hannah Berner?

  Is it, okay, someone needs to blow on it.

• 3:57Paige DeSorbo?

  It's definitely a kitty hair, that kitty.

• 3:59Hannah Berner?

  No, that's a love hair, and she wants to be inside your brain. Okay, are you gonna do this the whole pod?

• 4:06Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 4:07Hannah Berner?

  You have to open your eyes during the pod.

• 4:10Hannah Berner?

  One eye just starts veering. Are you crying?

• 4:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, wait, I was so excited to get on the pod too and tell our story, and then I ruined it, so classic.

• 4:22Hannah Berner?

  You're like, my eye hurts.

• 4:23Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, every time you're like, every time you're really excited for something, and then it hap-

• 4:29Hannah Berner?

  The universe just-

• 4:31Paige DeSorbo?

  It ends up being the worst. I was so excited to go to Italy this summer, and... Like, cool.

• 4:37Hannah Berner?

  It ended up being a net positive.

• 4:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Die in a hotel room.

• 4:40Hannah Berner?

  Also, the word that we can't stop saying is kibosh.

• 4:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you can't stop saying it.

• 4:46Hannah Berner?

  But you started saying it subconsciously because I was saying it. I'm like, I want to kibosh this, I'm kiboshing this, the universe is kiboshing that.

• 4:55Paige DeSorbo?

  So, yesterday, I don't know if you're on the side of TikTok where it was like the craziest manifestation day. Just like in astrology, one of the craziest days we've ever had in the world, and of course, it's Hannah's birthday.

• 5:07Hannah Berner?

  Chiz.

• 5:09Paige DeSorbo?

  So, all day, I'm like, feeling, I'm like, I didn't even send Hannah something to her house for her birthday. Like, I didn't even try and make a plan with her. I'm a horrible friend, and I didn't text you any of this because I'm like, let her have a day, but I'm like, wow, I like, feel bad.

• 5:27Hannah Berner?

  Well, you called me at 8:30 a.m.

• 5:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:30Hannah Berner?

  After yelling at me for calling you at 8:30 a.m. the day before to talk business. You called me at 8:30 to tell me about manifestation, and I believe business.

• 5:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Called you to wish you a happy birthday, and then I called back with gossip.

• 5:44Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah, and you gave me like, local gossip.

• 5:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I gave you local hometown gossip, and so I feel like-

• 5:52Hannah Berner?

  Which is top tier.

• 5:53Paige DeSorbo?

  That's a birthday gift.

• 5:55Hannah Berner?

  You were like, what are you doing for your birthday? And this is the tea, guys. Can I tell, like, can I tell all the details?

• 6:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:03Hannah Berner?

  Paige's significant other

• 6:07Hannah Berner?

  texted me and was like, we haven't got dinner, all four of us, in a while. Like, we should just like, celebrate summer, whatever. Cute. No, but, I mean, I love, like-

• 6:19Paige DeSorbo?

  So cute, but I'm, I was like, when did you do that?

• 6:24Hannah Berner?

  He's like, look, I'm so sick of all the alone time I've been spending with Paige, I need a little-

• 6:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm drowning? And this is, this is me asking for help.

• 6:34Hannah Berner?

  She really, um, gets lit up with life when she's around you, and I really prefer that side of her.

• 6:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, the other day, Joe did say to me, like, like, I know you think I'm funny, but like, I know you don't think I'm like, as funny as Hannah, or something.

• 6:48Hannah Berner?

  And that's how it starts. That's how it begins, and next thing you know, I have to fight a man.

• 6:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, she's my best friend. He's like, no, the way you light up when she walks into-

• 7:00Hannah Berner?

  No, actually, the way I get giddy for you does is like, calm down. I'm like, but that's my-

• 7:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Who doesn't get excited when they see their best friend? Like, that, if you don't get excited when you see your best friend, get a grip.

• 7:14Hannah Berner?

  Well, you posted like, um, on Instagram, like, happy birthday to my life partner or something? And I was, really wanted to text it to Joe, and then I was like, actually, let's not stir up drama. My birthday.

• 7:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's not stir.

• 7:29Hannah Berner?

  This is the new me, the new me is like, I think of what I would do, because I think it's funny, and then I'm like, no need.

• 7:35Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and that's maturing.

• 7:37Hannah Berner?

  But he's so sweet. He literally was like, we haven't seen you, the four of us, gotten together this summer, like-

• 7:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:45Hannah Berner?

  What, and I go, you know, it's crazy, my birthday is next week. Should we get together for my birthday? And he was like, yeah, and we, I don't know who came up with it, but I was, I think I was like, let's surprise Paige.

• 7:59Hannah Berner?

  And we suddenly get so excited, and then I leave my phone, and I'm like, wait, wait, for my birthday?

• 8:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 8:05Hannah Berner?

  I'm going to the city to surprise Paige, which is the most Giggly Squad-coded, like, no one else understands it. And I'm like, this is us, this is what we do.

• 8:15Paige DeSorbo?

  And of course, 10 minutes before we're going to dinner, I'm dressed, I'm ready, I like, blew out my hair, put makeup on, 10 minutes before, I'm like, what if we didn't go?

• 8:25Hannah Berner?

  He texts me, she's trying to get out of it, and I go, I knew this would happen, like, clockwork. I was like, 5, 4, 3, 2, there's the text. I said, don't fucking let her, don't fu, like, what did he do to make sure you'd go?

• 8:35Paige DeSorbo?

  He was just like, what? No, we're going, and I was like, okay. And I, and then I kept being like, we could have gone someplace closer. I'm also like, it's a Wednesday night, what are we, what are we, 25? I'm like, what have we been doing?

• 8:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, it's a school night, okay?

• 8:55Hannah Berner?

  Backtracking, I am really bad at lying. Like, I think I'm decent at lying to make people feel better, like, being like-

• 9:04Paige DeSorbo?

  You can do white, cordial, normal, human lies, yes. Everyone can do, like, oh, my God, you look amazing, yeah. You're human, you have control over your emotions.

• 9:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but I have empathy, I'm an empath. But, um, in the morning, I wasn't like, never thought about like that I'd have to lie to you because I was surprising you that night. But you go, what are you doing tonight for your birthday? And I hadn't had a pre-planned lie, and I was like, hubba-da, hubba, like, I started being like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and you're not paying attention.

• 9:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I actually don't care.

• 9:37Hannah Berner?

  You're like, I don't care, I'm hanging up, and I was like, oh, oh, and then I was like, doesn't I, doesn't there gonna go somewhere in Southampton for dinner? And you were just like, okay, no.

• 9:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I do remember you saying Southampton, I was like, okay.

• 9:51Hannah Berner?

  And I remember getting off the phone, being like, phew, got her.

• 9:58Hannah Berner?

  Then we get in the car to head to New York City because we're in West Hampton. All to surprise Paige, by the way, my birthday. And I'm so excited. I'm like, she's gonna be so happy. Like, she has no idea. I'm texting Joe. We're so into him. Like, I'm on the road. This is a big trip, by the way. It's like two hours to get to the city on my birthday. I realized I have a business call and normally business calls are like Zooms. And I'm like, fuck, she's gonna see I'm in a car and she's gonna wonder why I'm in the car. And I'm like, no, she's not. She's never wondered any of these things. But we got on the call. It's not Zoom. I'm like, thank God. So I don't have to lie to four people.

• 10:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:35Hannah Berner?

  I was sweating at that point. Meanwhile, you're just going about your skincare routine.

• 10:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally living my life. Honestly, I couldn't figure out what to wear, so I also wanted to cancel. Like, I was like, I'm not going. Like, I can't. Am I wearing shorts? Like, what am I doing?

• 10:50Hannah Berner?

  Uh, Joe's only job was to physically get you into the car.

• 10:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:56Hannah Berner?

  But this is where I almost messed up. Paige and I share each other's location.

• 11:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Which we just started doing.

• 11:03Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, cuz when you were in Italy, I just like kind of wanted to know.

• 11:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I love glancing at where my friends are.

• 11:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I was like, is she in the water right now? Like, is she? I mean, you didn't move for two weeks.

• 11:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, one of my girlfriends, I like just checked and she was in Sardinia. And I texted her and I was like, send me pictures of your outfits. Like, I didn't even know you were going.

• 11:25Hannah Berner?

  No, having your friends' location is so fun. Um, so, but now I don't remember this being like that. But on iMes- iMessage, I'm whatever, iPhone, I'm a grandma. It says the person's name and then like in big letters underneath it says where they are.

• 11:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:42Hannah Berner?

  So I'm in the city. I was going thrifting. I was having fun like a city girl.

• 11:49Paige DeSorbo?

  So did you leave for the city right when we got off the phone? Like, in the morning?

• 11:55Hannah Berner?

  I did, um, a mission where I couldn't really smile and then that didn't go well. And then I jumped in the car at like noon.

• 12:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 12:04Hannah Berner?

  So I'm in the city and then obviously something came up to my head that I wanted to text you.

• 12:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 12:10Hannah Berner?

  So I texted you and then I was like, fuck! Like, I thought you were gonna get the text and immediately just see Hannah Berner, New York, New York. And I was like, you fucking ruined it. Fuck. Like, I was so mad at myself. First of all, you didn't respond for like two hours. And you were like, kay. And I was like, oh, thank God. She doesn't care.

• 12:29Paige DeSorbo?

  One, I didn't even see, I didn't even look at your location. And two, even if I did see you, New York, New York, I'd think, nothing of you, that's your home.

• 12:39Paige DeSorbo?

  How dare you cross the county lines without telling me?

• 12:45Hannah Berner?

  So this is where it gets good. Now it's like game time. Like, I've been waiting all day for this. It's like, I'm getting ready. And I'm texting Joe and I'm like, when you guys leaving? Like, do you want me to be there and then you guys walk in? Like, we didn't think about this stuff.

• 13:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 13:00Hannah Berner?

  Or like, what's the better surprise? And he's like, I'll go in first. We sit, then you come in. And then I realized I have your location. So I'm fucking tracking you. Me and Dez are parked outside the restaurant.

• 13:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow, I feel like no one's ever tracking me. That is so nice. I'm always tracking, tracking, tracking.

• 13:19Hannah Berner?

  Also, I'm never early for anything, but I was like, I cannot fuck up this surprise cuz I was like dilly-dallying per usual. So we get there early. We're, I'm like, okay, she's four blocks away. They're three, oh, they got in traffic. They're at a stop sign. Dez watches you guys come out. We're literally stealth. And I'm texting him. Then Joe gets to the front and he's, by the way, texting me the entire car ride.

• 13:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And you know, I, at one point, I was like, hello? And he was like, sorry, I'm sending like a really important email. And I was like, okay. So I was on TikTok.

• 13:53Hannah Berner?

  You didn't say a word to him the whole car ride.

• 13:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Again, I don't care. I don't care about anything.

• 13:59Hannah Berner?

  I turned to Dez and I go, I just have to say, a little disappointed in Paige. I go, she goes around the internet being like, I'm Russia, I'm Russia. I keep tabs on my man. I keep tabs on my man. Bitch, I've been texting your man all day and you didn't know shit. Where's this Russia? What, what are you talking about? I was in his DMs. We were kikiing, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Cuz at first I was like, she's on his shit. She's gonna immediately like read it off his iPad or something. Nope. Nope. You had no fucking clue, bro. Step up your game.

• 14:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I don't give a shit.

• 14:35Hannah Berner?

  I thought that like immediately you text me and be like, one, I see you texting my man. Two, I see this plans you made tonight. Three, I don't wanna go out tonight. Four, leave me alone.

• 14:45Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm sitting at the table. Joe gets up and he's like, I have to go to the bathroom. Which actually, I was like, you never have to go to the bathroom at a restaurant. Like, I did think that, but I didn't think anything of it.

• 14:55Hannah Berner?

  Oh, is that not his? That's so funny. People are either restaurant bathroom people or some people never do. You're right.

• 15:01Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and if anything, it's at like the end of dinner. I've never, whatever. So he goes to the bathroom and I'm just like sitting there. The waiter comes over.

• 15:08Hannah Berner?

  You're like, why am I here?

• 15:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Puts like, puts like water down. I'm looking at the menu. And then I look up and rounding the corner is Hannah and Dez. And my face, I was like,

• 15:22Paige DeSorbo?

  so excited. Like, I hadn't seen you in years.

• 15:26Hannah Berner?

  You don't know, it almost got ruined because your man was giving me a play-by-play. He gets to the front and he goes, oh my God, they just asked me what my guests' names are.

• 15:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Again, I wasn't listening. No.

• 15:38Hannah Berner?

  So then I'm like, we're fucked. We're fucked. Like, this is like, what is he gonna say? So I'm like turning to Dez. I'm like, we should go back home. This, this hasn't worked. Okay, you know what? Do you remember anything? Were you alive?

• 15:51Paige DeSorbo?

  So a girl walked in. She's wearing these zebra shorts. And I thought, hmm, I love a zebra short.

• 15:58Hannah Berner?

  Was it me?

• 15:59Paige DeSorbo?

  But I didn't love the top she was wearing it with. And I was like, this is like such an interesting top to pick with it. So I'm in my own head, looking at this girl's outfit. I had no, I had no-

• 16:10Hannah Berner?

  You were fighting some demons.

• 16:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I was not paying attention at all to the girl up at the front and Joe.

• 16:16Hannah Berner?

  My thing is, I'm so impressed that he was having full-on conversations, also texting me what the conversations were. Like, he was on it. And then he's also texting like, this is fun, like on the side, like, the man was texting paragraphs. And I'm like, this girl.

• 16:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, the best part was then like when we sat down.

• 16:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah was like, I was texting Joe all day. Like, you had no idea. And when we were in the elevator, he was texting. And I glanced over at his phone, hello, I'm alive. And I saw a kiss face emoji. And in my head, I was like, clock it cuz when I get home.

• 16:51Hannah Berner?

  So she looks at me. She goes, you did send him a kiss face emoji. I go, never sent him a kiss face emoji.

• 16:57Paige DeSorbo?

  And I looked at him.

• 17:00Hannah Berner?

  So then after the dinner, we get in the car, he texts a screenshot cuz the man needed receipts. He was scared. He was scared.

• 17:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, good.

• 17:07Hannah Berner?

  Shaking in his boots. And it was him to his dad.

• 17:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it was his dad to him. Yeah.

• 17:13Hannah Berner?

  Oh, his dad to him.

• 17:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Because you have to see what side of the phone it's on. Is it him? Is it you? Is it him?

• 17:17Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Yeah, is it the blue? Is it the come, incoming? I do feel like me and you are actually very easy to surprise because we're busy.

• 17:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 17:28Hannah Berner?

  I love when people do stuff to me. They're like, you didn't even tell. I'm like, I have, sorry, I have a job.

• 17:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, here's the thing about me. I'm not asking a follow-up. So like, if you say, hey, I'm here, I'm like, great. I have a great time there. Do what you have to do whilst there. Doesn't have any impact on me.

• 17:44Hannah Berner?

  When it was my birthday and the kids were here like last week, Dez disappeared for like two hours and-

• 17:51Paige DeSorbo?

  You guys are gonna be the funniest parents.

• 17:55Hannah Berner?

  No, I didn't think anything of it. I think at one point-

• 17:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like at one point, you're gonna be in the bathroom calling me, like, I'm hiding from my family.

• 18:06Hannah Berner?

  No, Dez disappeared. And then I think my mom said something like, do you know where Dez is? And I was like, no. And then he called me. It was like checking in. And I was like, what are you up to? And he goes, running errands. And I was like, okay, hang up the phone. He was going all the way to this place, Snowflake, um, in Long Island. It's the best ice cream place in the world. Anyway, come back. Everyone was like, we couldn't believe that, that he got it past you so easily. I'm like, that man could do anything behind my back. I wouldn't know.

• 18:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 18:35Hannah Berner?

  He's, I'm doing errands in the middle, like, Dez doesn't do errands. Like, I didn't even ask a follow-up question. I was like, cool, don't care. Hang up.

• 18:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Cool, don't care. Bye.

• 18:43Hannah Berner?

  That's why he has a second family. And I, I know he's, he's busy with a second family. I'm not asking follow-up questions. So everyone's like, he got you. And I'm like, no, he didn't.

• 18:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I didn't wanna look into it. If I looked into it, I would've known the longitude and latitude of Snowflake. Like, I didn't care about Snowflake.

• 19:01Hannah Berner?

  Also, do you know how many things going on in my head at a given time? And I also have to worry about my husband. I don't have time for that.

• 19:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't even need to see the phone. If I get a gut feeling, I'm leaving.

• 19:16Hannah Berner?

  Actually, you're so right. When you say you're Russia, it's more, it's the vibes.

• 19:20Paige DeSorbo?

  It's more the vibes.

• 19:22Hannah Berner?

  It's the vibes.

• 19:23Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a lot of fur. It's a no tolerance policy vibe. It's we don't need proof. We decided it in our head. Guilty, not guilty. See ya. And that's really what I wanna portray. Now, do we have great espionage? Of course, of course, but that's expensive.

• 19:41Hannah Berner?

  No, I literally walked in. I was like, you dumb bitch. You can't even keep your man on lock.

• 19:48Hannah Berner?

  Like, I've been talking to your man. Happy birthday to me.

• 19:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and then the other best part of it was we like told stories about my dad for like 15 minutes.

• 20:00Hannah Berner?

  Well, we realized that Dez does an incredible Gary impression. Didn't know.

• 20:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It actually stopped me dead in my tracks. I said, I thought my dad was there.

• 20:10Hannah Berner?

  But Dez is weird that way. He'll watch like one TV show and be able to like play all the characters. It's like, it's his own fun. It keeps, it keeps things spicy in our relationship. What we realized is that both our dads can't-

• 20:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Keep their mouths shut.

• 20:27Hannah Berner?

  Keep their mouths shut and how like, when you have a secret about yourself or something going on, the moms keep it locked. It's the dads that like, dads have these like weird group chats. They like to say stuff too. Like, my dad is a gossip.

• 20:43Paige DeSorbo?

  No, my dad has fully started rumors about me within our own family, for sure.

• 20:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, why?

• 20:50Hannah Berner?

  Once it gets to the bottom of it, you're like, from my own home.

• 20:56Hannah Berner?

  We got a snake in here. Cause dads, they like to brag.

• 21:01Paige DeSorbo?

  My dad also does this weird thing that like, he's like, giving you a compliment, but he's like, like mean about it, like, like, okay, here's like a kind of a good example, but something that happened to me the other day, which is just like so me and my family. So I'm looking for this one specific top, okay? I'm like, where the heck is this top? I like just bought this top. I know it should be on my recent purchase rack. I have a recent purchase rack. And I know it should be there. So I text Josephine, I'm like, hey, any chance you've like seen this top? This is what it looks like, like this is the brand. And she's like, I haven't seen that top, but like, if I did, it's here. And so I like look where she said.

• 21:46Hannah Berner?

  I love how that's Josephine's number one job is to tell you where certain clothes are.

• 21:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Every article of clothing that I have, Josephine knows, and she knows where it is.

• 21:54Hannah Berner?

  That's actually really impressive.

• 21:55Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm like, I can't find it, whatever, don't worry about it. I'm like saying the Saint Anthony prayer. I'm like, let me call my mom. Maybe she took it home from Italy and I'm not remembering. I call my mom, she's like, I can't remember the top. You have to like, I don't know what top you're talking about. And in the background, my, my dad goes, Kim, you have the best memory. You, you should be able to remember. Come on, you can't remember for, he's like yelling at her, but also like praising her. And she's like, I really can't remember. Like you have to send me a picture of it. I find it online. I send her a picture of the top and she goes, you never ended up buying this top?

• 22:38Paige DeSorbo?

  You tried it on and you thought eh, it does nothing for you. And I was like, oh my God, you're so right.

• 22:44Hannah Berner?

  She's like, you thought the sleeves were a quarter inch too long, so you decided against it and you didn't have a good bottom that you felt would really match. Like I've seen how you guys talk and it's like.

• 22:55Paige DeSorbo?

  She was like, remember you tried the dress on after and you were like, this is way better and more flattering. And, and I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 23:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course, how could I not remember?

• 23:06Hannah Berner?

  Duh, thank you, Kim. Someone was awake. Thank you. I also love how Gary's so invested in your, like wardrobe drama.

• 23:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Beyond. I'm the, I'm gonna be so honest. Now that I'm like, obviously in my thirties and you look at like marriages and relationships compared to like, what you thought they were as a child.

• 23:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Ooh, interesting.

• 23:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like growing up, I remember asking my dad, like when I was little, do you love me more than mom?

• 23:38Hannah Berner?

  By the way, that's insane.

• 23:40Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's crazy.

• 23:41Hannah Berner?

  You're a scary child.

• 23:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd say say it.

• 23:43Hannah Berner?

  Like me or mom? Leave one of us at home to die. Which one? Tell me now, dad.

• 23:49Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a building and it's burning and guess who's in it?

• 23:53Hannah Berner?

  Who are you saying? I love how you don't even bring up little Gary in this. You're like, I know he's not top two.

• 24:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, not. When we're talking to my dad, not in the lineup.

• 24:06Hannah Berner?

  Actually not even top five.

• 24:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And my dad would never say yes, and it would piss me off. He would always be like, no, you're like, your mother's number one. Like I love your mom. And my mom would be like, I'll throw him in front of a bus. Like I love you guys 10 times more than I'd ever even think about loving your dad. So that was like the norm. Now that I'm an adult, I feel like, yeah. My husb- like I feel like I'm gonna love my children way more than like any man, but I feel like my husband should be like, that's my, that's my day one.

• 24:46Hannah Berner?

  Do you feel like you appreciate your parents' relationship so much more now that you know that like they're just two people dating?

• 24:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 24:53Hannah Berner?

  That have like, made it work every year?

• 24:56Paige DeSorbo?

  They're literally two kids that met at school.

• 24:58Hannah Berner?

  Like, okay. When I hear my parents like, in the morning, having their like morning gossip and coffee, I'm like, what are they fucking talking about? It's been 30 years. But I'm like so proud of them, cause I'm like, that's huge. Like when you're little, you're just like, mom and dad are talking again. Now I'm like, they're still talking.

• 25:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Think about the dead horses they've beat.

• 25:19Hannah Berner?

  Think about how much old material my mom has to listen to of my, my dad, and she still thinks he's funny.

• 25:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you know me and I'm so revenge is my whole being. And so like, I will think about like, people that didn't like my mom in high school. Like I have beef with you. If you have beef with my mom from 30 years ago, I have beef with you today.

• 25:43Hannah Berner?

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• 26:27Hannah Berner?

  So then I can focus on my guests and maybe convince one of them they need a cat. For all my fellow cat parents, be guest ready with Arm and Hammer Hardball Cat Litter. Find it now at Walmart or Amazon. One thing about me, I love a protein bar. I'm not going out into the world without my emergency protein bar. It saved me in so many situations, I can't even tell you. But when I'm eating a protein bar, it can't taste like I'm being punished, you know, for trying to eat healthy.

• 26:52Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why I'm obsessed with Stars and Honey. They basically looked at protein bars and said, hmm, why are we choosing between something that supports our goals and something we actually want to eat? Each bar has 15 grams of protein and only four grams of sugar, but the flavors are giving dessert honey. Ice lemon cookie, mint chocolate chip, red velvet peanut butter mousse? Hello? Who even knew peanut butter could be a mousse?

• 27:17Hannah Berner?

  Because the best habits are the ones you can actually stick to. And consistency is a lot easier when your better for you snack is actually something you crave. Their standard is literally, would you still want to eat it if it weren't a protein bar? And that's the energy I need.

• 27:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Stars and Honey Protein Bars are now available at starsandhoney.com or Target stores nationwide. Order online or grab a box on your next Target run. I've always wanted to be more consistent with strength training, but my biggest problem is getting to the gym and thinking, okay, now what? I'll do a few exercises. I remember maybe a pull up, something I saved on Instagram, but there's never really any planning behind it. That's what I've been loving about the Ladder app. I open it and my workout is already planned for me by an expert coach. I know exactly what exercises I'm doing, how many sets, how many reps, and the in ear coaching gives me cues and motivation throughout the workout. It genuinely feels like having a personal trainer in my headphones. I love using this whenever I'm in hotels.

• 28:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been using it for a while now and I see and also feel myself getting stronger each day because of Ladder. I have also been eyeing their Pilates workout routines for a little while now, so that will definitely be in my next workout venture. And for less than $1 a day, you can't beat it. And I love that Ladder remembers my weights, reps and sets, because I can actually see my progress instead of wondering whether what I'm doing is working. Plus you can get a new plan every week that builds on the last. Remove the guesswork with Ladder and get a real coach in your ear telling you exactly what to do for every workout. No thinking, everything planned for you. And if you have an iPhone, head to ladder.fit/giggly and take a quick quiz to find your perfect ladder plan.

• 28:56Paige DeSorbo?

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• 29:41Paige DeSorbo?

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• 30:23Hannah Berner?

  Did you see there's a Parmesan cheese shortage? I thought that was big cheddar, just trying to stir rumors around. Oh, because of the heat?

• 30:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I think so, yeah.

• 30:35Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God, you know the Italians are not handling this well.

• 30:39Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just like, how much can we take? How much can we take as a society? It's too much.

• 30:44Hannah Berner?

  I know. Also, one thing, I was thinking about my dad and my outfits. The only thing is like when I'd wear something like skimpy. He would just be like, did you pay for the whole outfit? Like I feel like Gary never said that to you when you wore something like.

• 30:58Paige DeSorbo?

  My dad would give an honest opinion. He'd be like, mm, I've seen better. Or he'll be like, yeah, that's nice. Or he'll be like, that, that's it, that's sleek.

• 31:08Hannah Berner?

  Like it's giving like three years ago Vogue.

• 31:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No, he has said things like, mm, I feel like you have, you've worn something like that.

• 31:16Hannah Berner?

  Season.

• 31:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Me and my mom will go to him for an opinion. When he, when her and I are stuck, we will go third party, just to see.

• 31:25Hannah Berner?

  Sometimes a male perspective gives simplicity that you need, cause you've overthought it and he's just giving you the immediate response. I'm gonna bring up something controversial, now that we're talking about dads. Friend of the pod, giggler, Brooks Nader. I have to say, so apparently she was topless in it, is it Italy?

• 31:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:48Hannah Berner?

  Topless in Italy with her dad and her family. And at first, Americans are very upset about this. They're like, this is weird. Is it kinda giving, when you eat bread in Italy, there's no calories, when you're topless in Italy, that's how everyone dresses?

• 32:09Hannah Berner?

  It's giving one in Italy. You don't have to wear clothes.

• 32:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like I've been to a lot of parts of Italy. I don't think I've actually ever been seen, I maybe have seen like two people topless. I love Brooks. I love the girls. I love the show.

• 32:28Hannah Berner?

  I love a girl's name that's plural and it's just one person.

• 32:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I think she is like a, a very rare personality in this industry because I've met her a handful of times and I can genuinely say I think she's a genuinely nice, sweet person. So I feel like if there's things that people hate her over, I'm like, I don't, like, I don't care. I like her. I'm gonna draw the line here.

• 32:55Hannah Berner?

  But they're in Italy.

• 32:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not gonna like not be her friend. I'm gonna be like, that's quirky and that's crazy. Hannah, I could be dying. I'm, I'm never showing my dad my tits. Never, not once.

• 33:09Hannah Berner?

  I, I'm not like picking a side here, but I do think different families have different.

• 33:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Like different strokes for different folks.

• 33:17Hannah Berner?

  Yes. I do think also like breasts in different cultures. Granted, she is our culture, but.

• 33:22Paige DeSorbo?

  She's from Louisiana.

• 33:26Hannah Berner?

  Breasts in Louisiana. If you think about it, it's like men are shirtless all the time. Like some people are less sensitive about the nipples. And maybe her and her sisters are like always topless.

• 33:35Paige DeSorbo?

  They could be from a household. There are households that are naked households.

• 33:39Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, there's naked, a hundred percent. There's naked households. And also it's not like there's like brothers and sisters. It's just sisters. Like.

• 33:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think I ever thought that we would get here on this pod, but like truly nothing surprises me.

• 33:57Paige DeSorbo?

  What's your relationship with you being naked and like your mom?

• 34:01Hannah Berner?

  Oh, we're naked all the time.

• 34:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, yeah, same. Like I, my mom has seen my naked body.

• 34:05Hannah Berner?

  If my mom like was like, sorry, I'm changing. Can you get out of the room? I'd be like, where'd my mom go?

• 34:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 34:13Hannah Berner?

  No, I go into my mom's bathroom, take all my clothes off, poop in her toilet, say sorry. And then.

• 34:21Paige DeSorbo?

  It's interesting.

• 34:23Hannah Berner?

  Brooks Snyder's knows how to get press. Well, I'll say that.

• 34:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, there's no other men in that household. Like that dad is probably so desensitized to women.

• 34:34Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 34:35Paige DeSorbo?

  But still, I, I would argue I make one of the closest to my dad that

• 34:40Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 34:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Like of people I've met.

• 34:43Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 34:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I would die. I'd actually shrivel up and die.

• 34:47Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Yeah. Maybe there was some alcohol involved.

• 34:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 34:53Hannah Berner?

  It's a bunch of sisters and a mom and, but it is funny. Her dad like is alarmingly young looking.

• 35:00Paige DeSorbo?

  No, her dad's hot, for sure. He does look really young. He looks like he's like in his forty.

• 35:06Hannah Berner?

  Thirty-seven.

• 35:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Yeah, he looks thirty-seven.

• 35:10Hannah Berner?

  But um, yeah, you brought it up earlier and I was like, hmm, that didn't happen. Then I looked it up. I'm like, oh. Yeah. Also, they're on a boat. Are there different rules when it comes to boats? Different rules when it comes to the Mediterranean? Different ru- also, it's hot. It's hot. Not that she was wearing a big bikini to begin with, probably.

• 35:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I am not going to judge people that are in situations that I've never found myself in. I think that's like a really important thing.

• 35:40Hannah Berner?

  Ooh, I'd love that.

• 35:41Paige DeSorbo?

  To note, like, you know, I could say what I might do.

• 35:44Hannah Berner?

  You haven't walked a mile in her Louis Vuitton.

• 35:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I haven't. And so, um, things happen, but I don't foresee that. I don't foresee me being in that situation and choosing and choosing.

• 35:58Hannah Berner?

  I also think in general, like some people just like love being naked. Like then, for example, like you'll keep your top on during sex.

• 36:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I know this.

• 36:11Hannah Berner?

  Totally.

• 36:13Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not the main attraction when you're with me. So like, if you're buying tickets to this show, you have to know, you have to know who's starring in it. And they're typically never starring. Sometimes they have a background role or they have a line or two, but.

• 36:33Hannah Berner?

  They'll make a cameo if you're lucky, but no one's gonna really talk about it afterwards.

• 36:37Paige DeSorbo?

  They'll do the Christmas special, but you're probably not gonna see them for a couple of months. You know, like they're.

• 36:42Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, they've never stolen the show, but like.

• 36:45Paige DeSorbo?

  They're more like production. You know, they've transitioned. They're the director now. They're like, actually, I didn't make it.

• 36:53Hannah Berner?

  They're in between scenes, the people wearing black that come in and take the chairs out to put in the other scene furniture.

• 37:01Hannah Berner?

  There's a name for those people, but we don't know that. But as women of the arts, we should. Oh God. So anyway, I'm hungover from yesterday.

• 37:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I had so much fun.

• 37:09Hannah Berner?

  I had like ten sips of a drink over three hours, hungover.

• 37:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you and I chatted a lot. It was one of those really good double dates where you and I really had alone time and then the men had like were talking. And that's my favorite kind.

• 37:24Hannah Berner?

  What do you think they were talking about?

• 37:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I have no idea. I don't care. I think it was like a golf.

• 37:28Hannah Berner?

  It was a lot of golf.

• 37:29Paige DeSorbo?

  We were getting into it.

• 37:31Hannah Berner?

  We finish a thought and then we're like, quick, quick, quick. What's next on the docket? What's next on the docket? And we both are like,

• 37:38Hannah Berner?

  oh, this, this. But it was just, it's so, I just feel so lucky that we as a foursome get along so well. Like it makes me really happy.

• 37:47Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and it's scary.

• 37:49Hannah Berner?

  Cause I've accepted that like I might not like your significant other.

• 37:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:53Hannah Berner?

  And that I wouldn't cause drama. I would just say whatever you're into.

• 37:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And we, yeah, yeah. And so it is really, um, nice. Okay, switching gears just a little because I've actually been watching it all morning. So it's like on my mind. I started watching Real Housewives of London. Which I, I feel like there's no promotion for them.

• 38:19Hannah Berner?

  When did it come out?

• 38:20Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like episode five.

• 38:22Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 38:23Paige DeSorbo?

  But it came out in London, I think like a couple of months ago.

• 38:27Hannah Berner?

  Is Caroline Stanbury in it?

• 38:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, she has like a cameo, but she's not like one of the women. I don't even think she's like a friend of. No, not really. They fight about like contact lenses and like you borrow clothes. I don't borrow clothes. Like how dare you? And then it's like, you got all your money from

• 38:50Paige DeSorbo?

  your divorces. Like it's very like, you don't really care about their drama, but their outfits are amazing. Like they have, and their homes are really beautiful. They go to like the Cotswolds and like all this like really British stuff.

• 39:04Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 39:05Paige DeSorbo?

  So it is really good. But one of the dinners,

• 39:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know. They were like doing like reality TV questions. But then one of the questions was like, if your friend got arrested and you had no idea what it was for, what's the first thought in your brain on why they got arrested? So I like immediately thought like, okay, Hannah gets arrested. What am I thinking? And my first thought was she drove into like a building.

• 39:32Hannah Berner?

  Wait, that's so weird.

• 39:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Like she accidentally drove into the yoga studio and she like literally didn't mean to. And then her foot slipped and then she was being a little hostile and resisting arrest. And they were like, you're drunk. And she's like, I'm not drunk. I don't have a drink. They're like, you're high. And she's like, I can't smoke.

• 39:50Hannah Berner?

  That's so funny. Cause last night we left the restaurant and Dez was like, I'm kinda tired. Like you drove 20 minutes the other day. Do you wanna drive back? And I was like, first of all, I'm drunk.

• 40:00Paige DeSorbo?

  First of all, divorce. How dare you say that to me?

• 40:04Hannah Berner?

  He was like kind of joking. And then he was like, you're drunk. And I'm like, I had six sips of an Aperol spritz. I'm fucking loaded right now. That's so unsafe. And he's like, oh, I would never ask you. I didn't know that you like.

• 40:15Paige DeSorbo?

  You weren't. You could have fully operated a vehicle.

• 40:19Hannah Berner?

  The way I drink, which is like so slow. And I'm eating rapidly throughout. I feel like I'm, I was like beyond sober. It was like the reverse. They're like, you're negative point three.

• 40:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And when you're getting in the nitty gritty of a gossip session, you lock in physically and mentally.

• 40:39Hannah Berner?

  That's so funny when you're like hammered at the club and then some drama arises and suddenly you're crystal clear.

• 40:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:46Hannah Berner?

  You're crystal clear. You're alert.

• 40:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:48Hannah Berner?

  Um, I know what you would get arrested for. We talked about last night.

• 40:51Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 40:52Hannah Berner?

  Something about smuggling a drug in an airport.

• 40:57Hannah Berner?

  Something regarding a weed pen. And I'd be like, get my girl out. Wait, do you want to hear how fucking prude I am? You ever like leaving a foreign country and they're like, do you, have you taken any like, it lists a hundred things and one of it is like dirt or something?

• 41:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I've never seen that.

• 41:15Hannah Berner?

  It like, you like, you can't take like, things from the ground or something?

• 41:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't tell you my Italy airport story with the tax free?

• 41:25Hannah Berner?

  No. Did you miss it? Cause I missed it when I was in France.

• 41:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so when you're in a different country and you're checking out, you can say like, tax free, and then when you're at the airport, you'll get the money back. I don't actually really know how it works, but whatever. I know that you get money back.

• 41:42Hannah Berner?

  From something.

• 41:43Paige DeSorbo?

  From some government somewhere.

• 41:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 41:46Paige DeSorbo?

  So whatever, it's a fucking pain in the ass to save all the receipts because then when you get to the airport, you have to scan every single one.

• 41:55Hannah Berner?

  Yes, well, you also, you bought a lot.

• 41:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I bought a lot and they say, if you're gonna do it after TSA, put it in your carry on in case they ask to look for it. If you're doing it before TSA, you can just show it to them in your checked bag, then check your bags. Now, I like to do it after TSA because you get through TSA and you're like, okay, I'm few, I'm gonna make my flight. Then you like, you deal with all of that. Doing it before is like kind of a logistical nightmare, whatever. When I get through, now I have never in my travels, put everything I've bought in my carry on because never once have they ever asked me to see it. This time I was like, you know what?

• 42:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm just gonna put everything I bought, majority in my carry on and then I have like a few things I'll put in my checked bag, just in case. Like I did kind of buy a lot this year. I get through TSA, I go to like the scanner thing, I'm scanning my stuff. It says like, see a agent, like go to the desk. The girl standing next to me was like, oh, I think it's over there. No line, amazing. It's like an older woman, I go up, I'm like, hey, this is like my code, it says come see the thing. Come see a person, this is my receipt. She goes, come here. Like waves me into the little built, or little.

• 43:19Hannah Berner?

  Office?

• 43:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Office. She goes, let me see all your stuff. So I start taking everything.

• 43:25Hannah Berner?

  This is actually vintage from 2001 runway Marc Jacobs. This is a rare polka dot pony hair.

• 43:39Paige DeSorbo?

  She goes, okay, there's like a coat, a coat. I go, okay, it's not a coat, it's act- it's actually like a wrap that you could totally, I guess, wear as a coat, but.

• 43:51Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking more over a dress and then wear it as a total outfit. You could wear it as a coat.

• 43:58Paige DeSorbo?

  She did not want to do any of it. I could tell she didn't want to do it and I was missing a couple of things. And right when we got to like the first thing I'm missing, I'm like, oh, it must be in my checked bag. Okay, I won't take the tax free for that item. Like, don't worry about it. I don't have it. I know that's against the rules, whatever. And she goes, no, I can't do any of it. And I'm like, I'm like, wait, but I have the other stuff. Can you do the stuff I have? And she's like, now get out. And I was like, you just looked at all my stuff, not one time did you say anything was cute, okay?

• 44:32Hannah Berner?

  Never made a comment about my taste.

• 44:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Not a single comment. Now my tissue paper's all over the place. I like have to get a bag of my bag. I'm literally so upset.

• 44:43Hannah Berner?

  Traumatizing. You got robbed?

• 44:45Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I got robbed. And then I was like, is this just like a scam? That's like not.

• 44:51Hannah Berner?

  Well, a hundred percent in a way because in theory, everyone's like, like when I went to Paris for the first time and I finally got the balls to buy a bag and it was like so hard for me. And I was like, but you get like a certain amount off at the airport. So I go to the airport, I go all the way through the airport, I'm sitting at the gate and I go, okay, now let's figure out the tax situation. And they were like, no, that's when you first walk in. I'm like, who the? How the fuck? I didn't, I thought that was like, once you're in, I'm trying to check in when I'm there.

• 45:22Paige DeSorbo?

  In Italy, you can go, there's like a little place like right by our hotel, you can bring all your tax reforms and they like do the initial thing for you so that when you get there, you scan one thing and you're like, good. So I technically should have just been like good to go.

• 45:37Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 45:38Paige DeSorbo?

  But, so anyway, I didn't get any of that.

• 45:41Hannah Berner?

  That happened to you, but anyway, I'm an idiot. Cause I think I was actually young. I think I was like 14 or 15. I was traveling for tennis. And it had this big thing like, no foreign soil. Do not bring foreign soil over the, and I literally freaked out to the person next to me and I was like, I think I have dirt in my boots.

• 45:59Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you're insane. Also, I don't think I've ever.

• 46:02Hannah Berner?

  It's like a thing.

• 46:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Like declare, like are people standing in line and be, and like declaring things?

• 46:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, or people be like, I have a lot, I have soil. But I literally thought they were gonna be like, you have some dirt under your shoe, you're gonna have to come with me. And I'd be like, me too, I'm not stealing it.

• 46:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I think that's because there's like different diseases and plants and animals carry different things and you can't like.

• 46:25Hannah Berner?

  That's how I am with police though, like yesterday.

• 46:31Hannah Berner?

  I'm just walking across the street in New York City, about to surprise my friend for my birthday.

• 46:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 46:36Hannah Berner?

  And there was, you know, sometimes police cars stop. I actually know there's like an illegal turn that people do and I think they were just trying to get people. But I'm immediately like, if I jaywalk right now, am I about to be on the news?

• 46:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you can't go, like a right on red in New York City?

• 46:51Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, there is one of those, but I'm not, I'm walking. And you know, and like, and the cops like watching you. And then I'm like, how did I ever use my hands when I walk? I'm like, do I look like I'm up to something? Like I get so in my head. Cause there's always a rule that I didn't know about that they'll be like, illegal, you stepped on a crack.

• 47:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 47:08Hannah Berner?

  Anyway, I did drive, I'm not driving from the city to the Hamptons.

• 47:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh yeah, so did you drive any of the way home or no? It was also dark.

• 47:18Hannah Berner?

  I was hammered.

• 47:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you ever driven in the dark?

• 47:22Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 47:24Hannah Berner?

  Well, no one talks about that. Like, do you just go, okay, today's the day I'm driving in the dark?

• 47:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it is a definitely a different experience.

• 47:33Hannah Berner?

  But nowadays cars like automatically put the lights on for you, right?

• 47:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally. But the, but I don't, they don't automatically put like your high beams on. Sometimes you need your high beams.

• 47:42Hannah Berner?

  Wait, do you remember like being with your parents in the car and them complaining about people having their, is it called high beams or like they call them?

• 47:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Blinker.

• 47:49Hannah Berner?

  The brights, having your brights on?

• 47:51Paige DeSorbo?

  High beams.

• 47:52Hannah Berner?

  Like this fucking guy, this is fucking brights on. Like that's all my childhood was, was this fucking guy saw his brights on. And I'm like, does no one, and he's like, oh fuck, this is dangerous, his brights on.

• 48:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I used to get into a fight with my dad because in high school, my car looked like it had like high beams on, but it didn't. And he'd be like, you don't have to work the car. And I'd be like, it's not.

• 48:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd get so annoyed.

• 48:19Hannah Berner?

  You're like, women can actually drive really well. Not my best friend, but a lot of women. It's actually feminist of me not being able to drive well to show like, women can be multifaceted.

• 48:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you feel like you are getting better though?

• 48:32Hannah Berner?

  Oh, for sure. It's, it was always like mental and like a confidence thing. Cause once you're driving up, you're like, oh, I'm not gonna just hit a tree.

• 48:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it becomes like second nature. You then start to like get places and when you get there, you're, you don't remember how you got there because you were thinking of other things while you drove there.

• 48:53Hannah Berner?

  Also, this is embarrassing, but like, I, it really makes me feel more adult. Like when you never drive, you don't, you're still like, okay, where's the adult to drive me places where now I'm like, oh my, like I get out of the car, I feel like a suburban teenager. I'm like, I just got my coffee, like I'm independent. I, you know, I did, of course, when I was driving to my blood test or whatever. I, I Googled Southampton Animal Shelter, I go, oh, five minutes away, going there next. I started making stops. I was doing whatever I wanted.

• 49:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Honey, it's freedom.

• 49:26Hannah Berner?

  Oh, also I got my food allergen results back. Not allergic to literally anything. So it turns out, just my head.

• 49:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Just bullshit. You're just allergic to bullshit. So what about your stomach?

• 49:39Hannah Berner?

  I'm just a nervous Nellie and I eat something and my stomach goes.

• 49:45Paige DeSorbo?

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• 51:12Paige DeSorbo?

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• 51:56Paige DeSorbo?

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• 52:41Paige DeSorbo?

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• 53:33Hannah Berner?

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• 53:40Paige DeSorbo?

  No, if I'm wearing a hat, I'm a different person. Okay, the weather totally changes how you feel. And it's obviously like getting a little cooler out. And I'm a different girl in a turtleneck.

• 53:54Hannah Berner?

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• 54:11Paige DeSorbo?

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• 54:15Hannah Berner?

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• 54:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and don't get me started on just like a really good dinner outfit. You get me a new blazer to go out to dinner, I'm having a time.

• 54:30Hannah Berner?

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• 54:42Paige DeSorbo?

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• 55:07Hannah Berner?

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• 55:33Paige DeSorbo?

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• 56:16Paige DeSorbo?

  actually, I think she was talking about like women wanting to live a soft life versus like, and she was saying it how like to live a soft life is like privileged, whatever. That's not even like the part. But she was saying...

• 56:31Hannah Berner?

  I saw you losing it. Like you were fighting for your life, and I was like, she's not gonna get it. It's on top of her tongue, it's gone.

• 56:39Hannah Berner?

  It's never gonna be found.

• 56:43Hannah Berner?

  I saw a girl talking about living life.

• 56:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No, no Hannah.

• 56:51Hannah Berner?

  You're hungover too. What did you drink yesterday? The guy was like, ooh, oh, you got salt and sugar? With salt and sugar on it?

• 56:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm really in a spicy margarita kick. Okay, I got it back. She was talking about how freedom, really, the definition of like women having freedom is having multiple options. And one of the things about being able to drive is at any point, you can go.

• 57:20Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, kids, we're getting on the bicycle.

• 57:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, you need to, you need to have an exit strategy at any time. You need to know that you can go.

• 57:31Hannah Berner?

  So many situations that I've been like, well, can't get out because the Uber's gonna take 20 minutes.

• 57:37Paige DeSorbo?

  So many situations in my life where I've been going somewhere or doing something, and I've had like a gut feeling, and I'm like, I'm actually gonna drive. And then being, and then something happening and me being like, yeah, see ya. Like, I'm out of here.

• 57:49Hannah Berner?

  It's also nice to be able to be in a car and lock it. There's a peacefulness to it.

• 57:53Paige DeSorbo?

  The relationship you have by yourself in your own car.

• 57:59Hannah Berner?

  No, I've like met a new Hannah. I'm like, who are, who is this?

• 58:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's like a different meditative state.

• 58:04Hannah Berner?

  It's so funny. Oh, this is our mental health moment.

• 58:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, did your mom give you like different Saint cards to like put in your car? And like a rosary?

• 58:15Hannah Berner?

  She's not as Catholic, Italian Catholic as your mom.

• 58:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I'll tell my mom to send you some.

• 58:19Hannah Berner?

  Thank you, because actually that would look really nice on my dashboard. And I like making eye contact with Saint Anthony while I drive.

• 58:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course, you need someone to keep you safe.

• 58:28Hannah Berner?

  But this is the thing about religion. If that gives you the confidence you need to feel calm on the road, then that's amazing.

• 58:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Amazing.

• 58:39Hannah Berner?

  And makes everything better. Mental health moment, my mom was telling me because Bobby and Lois visited. And Bobby, within two weeks, like his speech was getting so much better. And my mom's like a little scientist woman in STEM. And I don't know where she got this statistic, but she was basically like, when kids travel, they have to like re-regulate. And like, they basically like retain information better because they're like in a new environment and they're just like a sponge. And then it got me thinking about, I feel like that's with adults too. Like, me and you have both traveled more recently. And being in a, putting yourself in a different environment immediately makes you grow. It's kind of like when you're in a new relationship, like you come out of it and you're a more evolved person.

• 59:23Hannah Berner?

  So I'm not saying we all have to go to Fiji, but I'm saying, get on the train. Go to Rockaway Beach. Go somewhere, and it really does change your mindset. Even just go for a walk. It really does reignite like your brain just to like rejiggle things. I know that's not like the scientific way to say it, but I just wanted to give that advice because I think it's true. When you're like in the same routine every single day, it might feel safe, but I think it's also like keeps you stuck a little. That's why you should break up with your boyfriends.

• 59:58Paige DeSorbo?

  100% agree. And I think like every couple of months, I feel like I do an activity that's like longer than like getting my nails done by myself, like outside of the home. And you feel better after. You almost feel like more confident, like, oh yeah, I can go and like sit there by myself. Like one day, I went to the beach all day by myself, and that was like small, but I was like...

• 1:00:24Hannah Berner?

  No, I remember that day.

• 1:00:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm gonna hang out by myself and do stuff.

• 1:00:27Hannah Berner?

  Because you told me like four times, you're like, hey, I'm the beach by myself.

• 1:00:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I was like, do you wanna come to the

• 1:00:34Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, I know, I'm tracking you. I know you've been there. But I also think, I like challenging my identity where like, people used to know me as like, oh Hannah, the girl can't fucking drive. And I'm like, what if, what if, one day I could drive? You can't put me in a box anymore. You don't even know who I, I am anymore. Like, my, people from my past, they don't know this Hannah.

• 1:00:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:00:56Hannah Berner?

  Fucking drive, bro. What are you gonna do?

• 1:00:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Is this a childhood trauma thing that you feel like you conquered? Not trauma, I mean, like, a high school thing that you're like, I never got my license?

• 1:01:08Hannah Berner?

  Well, at first, it was, it was like a cocky New York City thing, like, people who could drive.

• 1:01:14Paige DeSorbo?

  You liked not driving.

• 1:01:14Hannah Berner?

  We loved being like, yeah, we're from the city, of course you don't drive.

• 1:01:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, okay, nevermind.

• 1:01:18Hannah Berner?

  Where are we gonna park our car?

• 1:01:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, where are you parking?

• 1:01:20Hannah Berner?

  We were just like, yeah, we're from the city. And then I went to Wisconsin and I was like, yeah, I'm from the city, I don't drive. And then all my teammates would drive me everywhere, cuz I had ten teammates with cars. And then it started to be a problem. Then it started being like, it went from cool to, oh, you don't drive?

• 1:01:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:37Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. And also, I grew up where like, my nana didn't really drive, my uncle didn't really drive, so I kind of had this voice in my head, like, you might be like them, like, you just don't drive.

• 1:01:46Paige DeSorbo?

  My mom doesn't really drive and she doesn't live in a city.

• 1:01:50Hannah Berner?

  And that's why Kim's iconic.

• 1:01:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Kim stopped driving, like, fifteen years ago. Like, she'll go, drive if she has, if she has to get someplace, but typically, she's like, call someone and she's like, drive me. And we do.

• 1:02:03Hannah Berner?

  I know plenty of people who drive that I'm like, maybe we shouldn't.

• 1:02:08Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and Kim is actually one of those people.

• 1:02:10Hannah Berner?

  And you know.

• 1:02:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:12Hannah Berner?

  You know in your heart of hearts.

• 1:02:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and she knows it too.

• 1:02:15Hannah Berner?

  And she knows it too, it's called self-awareness.

• 1:02:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:17Hannah Berner?

  Um, update from last week, talking about the Wiggles.

• 1:02:23Hannah Berner?

  Apparently, there's a hot Wiggle. His name's John.

• 1:02:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:02:28Hannah Berner?

  I can tell he's, he's tiny, but he is cute. He has a full family, like, a kid and a mom, and a wife.

• 1:02:36Paige DeSorbo?

  And a wife.

• 1:02:37Hannah Berner?

  And he, um, he does like, he has his own, like, Wiggles page where he's like, for the kids, and then he has another page where it's like, does hot stuff. So he lives like, a double life of like, Insta-thought John, and like, hot dad, like, he's like, mute my son, and he's like, tattoos and stuff. And, you can't do this.

• 1:03:01Hannah Berner?

  And then the other one's like, oh, I can't do an Australian accent, but he's like, Albeck Steakhouse! Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.

• 1:03:09Paige DeSorbo?

  What's his wife like?

• 1:03:11Hannah Berner?

  I think she's like, very normal, cool, she's not a Wiggle.

• 1:03:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 1:03:14Hannah Berner?

  So he, he married outside of

• 1:03:17Paige DeSorbo?

  The Wiggle community.

• 1:03:19Hannah Berner?

  Wiggle community. In another life, I was a Wiggle. I would love to be, like, I looked at their concerts, it's fucking crazy.

• 1:03:27Paige DeSorbo?

  The Wiggles have really evolved since, like, I feel like I almost don't know what you're talking about.

• 1:03:33Hannah Berner?

  A Wiggles concert? Like, is all these toddlers losing their fucking mind while the Wiggles are like, throwing props around and dancing and singing? Like, it's the most fun concert I've seen in a long time.

• 1:03:47Paige DeSorbo?

  You know who's pissed? Blue's Clues. He's probably like

• 1:03:51Hannah Berner?

  I was gonna say it.

• 1:03:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I put in the time, I put in the work, and I can't believe there's Wiggles, full-on Wiggles concerts and like, spin off, I can't believe the show's still even on.

• 1:04:03Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I wanna produce a documentary series that finds all those people from her childhood. Do you remember like, Miranda and the Big Clock or whatever?

• 1:04:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:12Hannah Berner?

  So it feels like a drug trip. I'm like, I see a Blue so far.

• 1:04:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked about this one time.

• 1:04:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, big comfy couch.

• 1:04:21Hannah Berner?

  Yes, Steve from Blue's Clues, I wanna know everything about, like, how their life went and where they are now.

• 1:04:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, remember, they were gonna do a part two of that Nickelodeon documentary and then they never did?

• 1:04:32Hannah Berner?

  Someone put the kibosh on it.

• 1:04:33Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I need the part two of that doc.

• 1:04:36Hannah Berner?

  No, yeah, that was super upsetting. I, all I know is, shout out Raven Simone, I'm obsessed with her, she's like, low-key the reason I got into comedy.

• 1:04:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I was just gonna say, I see a lot of her podcast clips and she's very funny.

• 1:04:49Hannah Berner?

  She's amazing.

• 1:04:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:50Hannah Berner?

  They're doing, I think, a That's So Raven reboot, and I'm kinda pumped up.

• 1:04:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't hear that. I mean, everyone's going to the Lizzie McGuire concert.

• 1:04:58Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 1:05:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you know that Lizzie McGuire doesn't talk to her sister?

• 1:05:03Hannah Berner?

  Are you talking about Hilary Duff or Lizzie McGuire?

• 1:05:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Same thing.

• 1:05:06Hannah Berner?

  Oh. Same thing. Like, not her sister on the show, her real-life sister.

• 1:05:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, wait, we didn't talk about Sterling Point. It's on Amazon.

• 1:05:17Hannah Berner?

  What's, what's a Sterling Point?

• 1:05:19Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a show.

• 1:05:20Hannah Berner?

  It sounds like a, a guy who bullied me in high school. Sterling Point?

• 1:05:23Paige DeSorbo?

  It's scripted, it's set in Canada, it's set on this like, gorgeous lake, and the main girl is literally Anne Hathaway's daughter. She actually played Anne Hathaway's daughter in another movie, but I can't think of what it is.

• 1:05:37Hannah Berner?

  I love how you're like, it's a period piece cuz it's in Canada.

• 1:05:40Paige DeSorbo?

  She's, kind of. She is so beautiful.

• 1:05:45Hannah Berner?

  Oh, it's R-rated?

• 1:05:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Is it?

• 1:05:47Hannah Berner?

  It says raunchy. Oh no, that was something else.

• 1:05:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's not that raunchy. No, this is like a high school, like, they're seventeen.

• 1:05:56Hannah Berner?

  You love a high school drama.

• 1:05:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I love it.

• 1:05:59Hannah Berner?

  The second it's in high school, I'm like, I can't.

• 1:06:01Paige DeSorbo?

  All I think about when I watch these high school dramas is, my mother didn't let me out of the house. How are you guys running around, doing all these things, like, experiencing all of this mischief? But I love it, I love a high school show.

• 1:06:17Hannah Berner?

  Maybe it's a Canadian thing, cuz there's like wilderness. It's just so funny. My mom was like, please go to the party. Please go out and have some fun tonight. And I'm like, I haven't met you tomorrow, mom!

• 1:06:28Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so cute. I would be like, if I go out and I come home at this time, I could sleep for four hours.

• 1:06:36Hannah Berner?

  Also, I received backlash last episode because I'm normally full of positivity and life and light and laughter.

• 1:06:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:44Hannah Berner?

  But I, I had some critiques on the first episode of Furious, or maybe the first half of Furious. People were, they were like, Hannah, you lost the plot, like, it's a great show.

• 1:06:54Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a great show.

• 1:06:56Hannah Berner?

  Do you have an update of how you recently felt about it?

• 1:06:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, well, I just watched the fifth episode and there is a part that is very realistic, though, in life, because she does like, go back to her abuser, and so I, it made me upset that that's where they took it, but I still stick by that I love that show.

• 1:07:19Hannah Berner?

  I didn't get to the point where she had an abuser.

• 1:07:21Paige DeSorbo?

  You didn't watch the show? And then you're coming, and you're, and we've given you this platform and this forum to speak positivity into the world and make a real change in the lives of women? And you come on this platform and you abuse it?

• 1:07:35Hannah Berner?

  Okay, let's not throw the A-word around that often.

• 1:07:38Paige DeSorbo?

  And, no, let's not, that's actually

• 1:07:40Hannah Berner?

  If it is a story regarding abuse and stuff, I think it's important and should be watched.

• 1:07:47Paige DeSorbo?

  It is, it is a story regarding abuse, not just hers. It's, the larger picture is about human trafficking. Okay?

• 1:07:55Hannah Berner?

  Oh, shit.

• 1:07:56Paige DeSorbo?

  So, do you wanna dial it back?

• 1:07:58Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I apologize to the community.

• 1:08:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Watch it by yourself, you can't watch it with a man, because they like, aren't watching the same things we are, they're not experiencing it the same way we are.

• 1:08:07Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Give it, give it a go.

• 1:08:09Hannah Berner?

  I also have yet to also delve into the Lindsay Clancy trial, but I have been getting messages to raise awareness about postpartum depression and how badly hers was handled.

• 1:08:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Because it's not like it's a woman that, it was like, she didn't ask for help, she did, she went to so many doctors. She was on so much medicine, it was insane.

• 1:08:32Hannah Berner?

  Oh, god, I also, it's not the first story of a woman accused of killing her kids of, with postpartum depression. By the way, this is how we like to end the pod, in the darkest, saddest place.

• 1:08:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Again, it's only up from here for your day.

• 1:08:48Hannah Berner?

  Exactly, exactly, cuz life is about perspective. Um, we have the weekend ahead of us.

• 1:08:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god, yeah.

• 1:08:57Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I have a wedding this weekend. And the Daphne Fall photo shoot is actually tomorrow, so I'm very excited.

• 1:09:06Hannah Berner?

  So exciting, I can't wait to see what everything looks like. Um, and we love you guys, thank you for giggling with us, and we'll talk to you later. Bye!

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