#826: Q&A with Tim — Supplements I’m Taking, Austin vs. SF, Training for Mental Performance, Current Go-To AI Tools, Recovering from Surgery, Intermittent Fasting, and More

This episode is a solo Q&A session where I answer a bunch of questions. We covered a ton of ground, from personal health protocols to professional frameworks and creative projects. This episode is brought to you by: Eight Sleep Pod Cover 5 https://www.eightsleep.com/tim/ sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating: EightSleep.com/Tim https://www.eightsleep.com/tim/ (use code TIM to get $350 off your very own Pod 5 Ultra.) Monarch Money https://www.monarchmoney.com/tim track, budget, plan, and do more with your money: MonarchMoney.com/Tim https://www.monarchmoney.com/tim (50% off your first year at monarchmoney.com with code TIM) Shopify https://shopify.com/tim global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business: https://shopify.com/tim (one-dollar-per-month trial period) Timestamps: [00:00:00] Start [00:06:00] Coyote retail distribution challenges and data gathering. [00:09:12] Elbow surgery recovery: sequencing, decongestion, Marc Pro device, peptides, BFR training. [00:16:14] California vs. Austin for builders, mechanical engineers, and tech startups. [00:19:06] Using AI for medical advice workflow (and cross-referencing with professionals). [00:23:51] Current supplement regimen and PAGG/AGG status. [00:31:54] California vs. Texas considerations for aspiring parents. [00:32:48] Saying "No" to good things for "Hell, yes" moments. [00:34:34] Philanthropy lessons learned since starting Saisei Foundation. [00:37:45] Something I've changed my mind about recently: intermittent fasting. [00:42:44] Precious items from childhood I still keep: D&D relics and marine biology books. [00:43:03] Bucket list hike: Glacier National Park. [00:43:42] How the catalytic chaos of publishing The 4-Hour Chef led to launching this podcast. [00:45:52] Bringing delight vs. sixth-gear, high-performance focus. [00:49:05] Thoughts on extended human fasting research from the Soviet era. [00:52:58] Most magical New Mexico experience: Mountain Cloud Zen Center meditation retreat. [00:53:22] Meta skills for the AI era: Hyper-adaptability and world-class learning. [00:54:01] The (real and ideal) future of CØCKPUNCH/Legends of Varlata. [00:59:47] Competitive chess training enhancement: glucose management, intermittent fasting, MCT oil. [01:06:31] Behind-the-scenes projects: Fusion, algae feed additives, meat alternatives. [01:08:32] Countries I wish I had visited earlier, and places I'd still like to see. [01:11:06] "Not yet" vs. "No" in early growth phases. [01:14:14] Post Coyote, do I have any future games in the works? [01:14:46] Over-ear vs. in-ear headphones for podcasting. [01:15:16] What's the uncrowded channel right now? [01:16:17] Recommendations for Dr. Mindy Pelz. [01:16:58] Robert Rodriguez and project juggling. [01:17:24] Fast neutron reactors and the Bugatti of ketones. 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• 0:00Tim Ferriss?

  Hello, boys and girls, ladies and germs, and welcome to a special episode of The Tim Ferriss Show. I am Tim Ferriss. This episode is a solo Q and A session where I answer a bunch of questions across a lot of topics submitted by members of the private NoBook community. That's the book that I'm working on right now alongside Neil Strauss, 10-time New York Times bestselling author. It's all about how to say no. If you want to read some sample chapters of that, tim.blog/nobook, N-O-B-O-K. We cover a ton of ground in this Q and A, ranging from personal health protocols to professional frameworks and creative projects and much more. Topics include my current extensive supplement stack. I was not going to volunteer that, but someone asked, so I answered it.

• 0:43Tim Ferriss?

  And I'm not a doctor, don't play one on the internet. Talk to your professionals. This is for informational and entertainment purposes. Only why I changed my mind about intermittent fasting, my workflow for using AI tools, some examples of how I currently apply those in my life, my current thoughts on Austin versus San Francisco for builders and entrepreneurs after spending a lot of time in both places, a detailed breakdown of how I would approach training for a mental sport like competitive chess, although I wish I could rope in some of my friends like Josh Waitzkin, my complete step-by-step protocol for attempting to accelerate recovery from a recent elbow surgery. I'm about two weeks out.

• 1:22Tim Ferriss?

  Have a nice big pending scar on my right elbow after some sports injuries beginning 20 years ago. So what did I do exactly to recover as quickly as possible using various technologies and devices like the Mark Pro and BFR training and more? Behind-the-scenes stories related to Coyote, the brand-new game that's now in 8,000 retail locations and some current challenges, how I'm navigating that. And as always, much, much more. One quick note on Coyote. Please check it out, coyotegame.com. And if you could leave a review, if you've bought the game, super helpful to, of course, getting the game in more places and everything else. Also very, very fun for me. So it's currently 4.7, 4.8 stars,

• 2:06Tim Ferriss?

  something like that on Amazon and Walmart, Target and so on. If you've played the game, Please leave a review. I've read every one so far. I just finished reading them today and I'll be reading them again later this week. Would really mean a lot. So check it out. CoyoteGame.com. I had a blast answering all the questions from the notebook community and I hope you find the tactics and strategies useful in your own life. We're going to get right to that. First, just a few quick words from the partners and about the partners who help make this podcast possible. Traditional budgeting apps, they can be interesting. Yeah, they can be helpful. I've tried out a bunch, but they don't compare to the complete financial command center that you get with today's sponsor, Monarch Money. And a number of my friends have recommended them publicly, have recommended it to me.

• 2:50Tim Ferriss?

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• 3:34Tim Ferriss?

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• 3:45Tim Ferriss?

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• 4:30Tim Ferriss?

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• 5:13Tim Ferriss?

  At this altitude, I can run flat out for a half mile before my hands start to shake.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  Can I answer your personal question?

• 5:19Speaker 02

  No, I've seen it a lot of times.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  I'm a cybernetic organism, living tissue over metal endoskeleton.

• 5:35Tim Ferriss?

  Greetings from the East Coast, everybody. And I figure we just hop right into it. And I thought we would make this simple to start with by simply going through the questions that were submitted and trying to answer as many of those as possible. And then we can go to some live questions if that works for you guys. Going to take a sip of my incredibly strong decaf coffee. I'm Jack. All right. The first question is from Sasha. What's an obstacle or challenge that you're currently facing? How are you approaching it? This actually, I could combine with the second one as well, which is Rashida. How was your recovery from elbow surgery? What procedure did you have done? Have you seen the wonderful story of Henry Sugar? I had to look that up. It looks amazing.

• 6:19Tim Ferriss?

  And Wes Anderson, short film adaptation of a role doll.

• 6:24Tim Ferriss?

  Short story, which I'm very excited to see. So, thank you for putting that on my radar. That is on my to watch list for Netflix, particularly since I just finished listening to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory by the same author. So, let's hop into obstacle or challenge. I'll give you a couple. So, the first is actually a retail distribution and placement question, and that relates to Coyote, the game that's now in 8,000 or so retail locations. And as you might expect, there are some variables that can affect sell-through. And Coyote itself is one of the smallest games that Exploding Kittens

• 7:08Tim Ferriss?

  has ever made, and it is their first game that is on a hangtag. So, it's intended to be put on one of those metal prongs that sticks out of the wall. But when you actually, and this was part one in terms of addressing it, trying to figure out why different stores or regions have varying levels of sell-through, the first thing you have to do is gather information. Rather than just speculate at every turn, trying to gather as much information as possible. And this actually makes me think of Dale Carnegie and How to Stop Worrying and Start Living. Often, step number one is more information. Do you have enough information or even partial information upon which to base this fear slash goal slash fill in the

• 7:50Tim Ferriss?

  blank? So, right now, went to a Discord server that hosts a lot of fans of Exploding Kittens games, and also with the help of the EK team, and separately have gone out to some of the families who playtested to ask them to go to local Walmart stores and Target stores to send back photographs, close up, and then zoomed out of actual retail placement. And so that will then help to inform possible strategies for improving sell-through for all of those stores, which Produces a long list at this point and every item on that list is premature.

• 8:31Tim Ferriss?

  For instance, and this is also where the scientific method comes in really handy in so much as not fooling yourself because can you even know, for instance, if the game is affecting self through retail? Is that knowable, right? Can you actually parse data in any compelling statistically significant way to say yes or no? If not, you can just ignore it, right? But that's an open question. Then you have box size, you have box placement. Can you increase just say adherence to agreed upon placement? Or do we want to potentially boost the size of a box? Of course, there are cost considerations with that, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So that's one that I'm contending with.

• 9:12Tim Ferriss?

  And then tying into what came up as the second question, Rashida, how's your recovery from elbow surgery? What procedure did I have done? I had a repair for lateral epicondylitis. So I'm not sure if you can see that. I've got a nice incision right there where the entire elbow was opened up and the lateral epicondyle, which is that nice little bump on the outside of the elbow, which is associated with tennis elbow as opposed to the inside, the medial side, which is golfer's elbow. And this is an injury from 20 years ago, probably 20 plus years ago, actually in New

• 9:54Tim Ferriss?

  York City where I had my elbow popped and bent the wrong direction in a jujitsu practice by a black belt, which in retrospect was totally unnecessary. A black belt has no need to exert that kind of force. But every few years it comes back and it's bothered me. And then particularly after doing a lot of rock climbing last winter and getting to, for me, tougher climbs like 511 plus on big walls, much bigger walls than Texas can provide, the elbow effectively just became unusable and it was in constant pain and got to the point where even picking up a glass of water was kind of excruciating. So that was all tacked back where it should be, sewn back together.

• 10:37Tim Ferriss?

  But you can see, I mean, let's see, this is about a week and a half out, right? And it's like, I've got. Almost full extension. This is like 80, 90% of the way there. And then on this side, I still have a lot of pain in the anconius when I flex the arm towards my face for like brushing my teeth or something like that. But that's a week and a half. Right. And so how did I approach that? Well,

• 11:03Tim Ferriss?

  a big part of how I think about solving problems or challenges is sequencing. That won't surprise anybody who's read The Four Hour Chef, which is confusingly a book about accelerated learning, but sequencing is the magic sauce, I think, for a lot of things. So you're going to sort of deconstruct something, right, to break it down into its constituent pieces. So what does healing look like, in fact, when you break it down into its constituent pieces? Let's just say those Lego pieces. Then how do you select kind of the 20% for this 80/20 analysis to get the highest yield out of the few levers you decide to pull? Because you probably can't address all of them at the time that you have as a non-professional

• 11:46Tim Ferriss?

  athlete or Major League Baseball pitcher, for instance. Then how do you sequence those things? How do you solve in the right order? And I'll actually be interviewing someone very soon. Pablo Holman, who talks a lot about this. He is one of the world's most fascinating hackers. And a lot of problems can't be solved until you solve for energy expenditure in the context of a lot of what he discusses. And similarly with healing, a large part of clearing the highway for productive work is decongestion. So I was using a device called a Mark Pro Device, M A R C, which provides effectively stimulation through electrodes to pump the tissue

• 12:31Tim Ferriss?

  for decongestion and lymphatic drainage. I was also doing lymphatic drainage massage, which is much lighter than you might expect and does not involve any type of incision. And then there were a number of peptides, like EMP157, not medical advice for information purposes only, that I was consuming to kind of hedge my bets. And That was based on a number of recommendations and I've used that as far back as 15 years ago. So for surgical repair, somewhat interesting, lots of supplementation. So along the lines of say Keith Barr, who I had on the podcast from UC Davis,

• 13:13Tim Ferriss?

  consuming particular types of collagen plus vitamin C, plus a few other things. Prior to any type of say range of motion, stretching or working, or isometric strengthening, not of the extents, right, that I had repaired. I'm not doing any isometrics on that just yet, but for bicep and tricep. And then, once the acute phase of congestion was somewhat addressed, right? It's still inflamed, but that's to be expected, given how much remodeling is going on in the elbow. Now I'm applying blood flow restriction, BFR training. And this was recommended to me, and it's been around quite a long time, but by Kelly Starrett,

• 13:56Tim Ferriss?

  who's an amazing performance coach, PT, works with Delta Force and many others. And the BFR allows you to effectively not only flush the tissue, but also maintain muscle mass on some level, without the ability to say concentrically or eccentrically handle much load. And I think that BFR is very, very interesting, not just for rehab, but for training, while minimizing the likelihood for injury. And by training, I mean resistance training. So those are a few of the tools in the toolkit. Of course, sleep is mandatory. So doing anything and everything necessary to get good amounts of restorative sleep,

• 14:40Tim Ferriss?

  deep sleep is super critical. And off we go. So I am planning on resuming actual flexor, like grip, strength training around week five. And for some people, the risk is that they don't do the rehab. The risk for someone like me is that I do too much too soon and blow the whole thing apart.

• 15:07Tim Ferriss?

  So, sitting still and just not fussing with it is my, my great challenge. It's kind of continually a challenge in every context. Okay. Let's hop back to the questions and I'm happy to answer more questions about the surgery as we come along and I might as well pick up one. Following a protocol, I am following a protocol with a PT. I have multiple PTs. So I'm not just DIYing this. I'm definitely relying on professionals for every step of this. Even though I would like to think I'm pretty well versed, but frankly, the accountability and the structure and the third party expert observation and assessment is really critical.

• 15:49Tim Ferriss?

  I just had my first follow-up assessment by the surgeon today, who has also had this identical surgery performed on his own elbow as a former high-level tennis player. So I like to choose surgeons when possible, who are former athletes or current athletes. Call me biased, but I do try to look for those folks because they tend to understand the bizarre programming that I have in my own mind. All right, let's hop back to a question from Jake. Do I still think California is the place to go for builders or is Austin viable as a place for a mechanical engineer to find a job? Build some momentum and make a go at a startup. I know you're not in the space anymore, but I'm curious what trends you see in Austin versus,

• 16:34Tim Ferriss?

  say, the Bay Area. So this is a very good question and it's top of mind for me because one of my best friends just moved from Austin back to San Francisco. And his reason for doing so was related, I would say, largely to the focus of his new startup that he hopes to launch, for which he will probably need to find a technical co-founder. And it is in broadly speaking, the AI space. And I will say that AI as yet another example of, I suppose, I'm not sure it ever died entirely. I don't think it did, but is another kind of Lazarus resurrection for Silicon Valley.

• 17:19Tim Ferriss?

  And if you want to build something that is sophisticated. In the AI space, which I know is a broad umbrella, then I do think the top talent, the density of talent is highest in a place like San Francisco. So if you hope to build, not only build, but learn and hire particularly if you're going to play the venture backed startup game, then you got a fish where the fish are. And from a talent perspective, that's going to have the highest density. Can you do it in Austin? Depends a lot on what you're building. There are some really interesting fintech companies. There are some very interesting hardware companies.

• 18:01Tim Ferriss?

  There are headquarters for a lot of large companies, or at least large outposts, Oracle, Google, Meta, et cetera, that exist in Austin. So I think it really depends on specifically what you were trying to build. But what I would add to that is that perhaps you don't have to choose one. Maybe they are not mutually exclusive. So perhaps you just treat a month or two or three in Silicon Valley as your, your MBA that you get to pay for with respect to any type of domain expertise you're trying to develop, or frankly, networks and relationships. And then you take that and you port it back to Austin, potentially.

• 18:44Tim Ferriss?

  These are all possibilities. So you could straddle both horses in a sense. That I think is my answer on California. I'm happy to answer more specifics on California and Austin, but you know, there are reasons why people are willing to pay astronomical taxes in California. This is true of a lot of places, high taxes. Generally, they're pretty good reasons they can get away with it. All right, let's go back to the questions I have here. Pete, how are you currently using AI for personal medical advice and what's your typical workflow?

• 19:18Tim Ferriss?

  I will say in advance of answering this that I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on the internet. So I'm not providing medical advice. I'm simply for educational and entertainment purposes only telling you what I do. I use a few different tools and I always cross-reference and I talk to professionals. So this is really important as a way to lead into this conversation because much like the person who is his or her own lawyer has a fool for a client. I think that could apply to PT. I think it could apply to medicine, certainly. And you really want to interrogate and cross-reference your own opinions with someone who's very experienced.

• 20:03Tim Ferriss?

  But there are a couple of different tools I use. So one is the off-the-rack ChatGPT and so on. I also use something called consensus.app. Consensus.app is specifically tuned for

• 20:18Tim Ferriss?

  reviewing published scientific literature to answer a given question. So for instance, in my case, if I wanted to do a preliminary run at a few questions before speaking to a very in-demand, very busy surgeon, i.e. the person who just fixed my elbow, I would look at the literature around BFR. So I have two tabs open on my computer right now related to blood flow restriction and accelerating or otherwise affecting positively or negatively surgical recovery in upper extremities in humans. But that will often give you nothing or something that is too narrow.

• 20:58Tim Ferriss?

  So I will expand that to include animal models, which are imperfect but helpful. And so then I get a read on, say, consensus.app and it will give you a conviction rating effectively. So it'll give you like a red, there's no evidence to support X, a yellow, results are mixed, or a green, where there seems to be a compelling majority of evidence that has been published in support of X. So I use consensus.app quite a bit. And then I will often ask the same question of say a chat GPT or Claude or perplexity, fill in the blank, and then cross-reference those.

• 21:41Tim Ferriss?

  So those are how I will then do a first pass on a question or topic of interest. After I have that, I will typically take the german paragraph or two and copy and paste it, send it, in this case, for instance, to the surgeon and say, what is your opinion of BFR for A, B, or C? Here's what I found, so that he or she, referring to the expert in question, knows you're not being a lazy son of a bitch and just throwing something at them that you haven't even thrown into Google or an LLM. So I'll, I'll make sure that I indicate I've done a bunch of lifting on my own first. Here's my tentative conclusion. Do you have anything at all you could add? Even a sentence or two would really be greatly appreciated.

• 22:26Tim Ferriss?

  And by the way, you don't need to have fancy people on your SMS to do that. I mean, Reddit is a great place to do this. Again, not medical advice, but there are some very smart people on subreddits and various other places. So those would be a few of the ways that I currently use it. And I might use it to, for instance, take something that has been mentioned to me. A genetic screening company reached out to me after one of my recent podcasts and one of my former podcast guests is a scientific advisor to them, credible scientific advisor. And they indicated that the APO three, four, which I have, which predisposes me somewhat, well, 2.5 times more than APO three, three, at least based on current understanding to

• 23:11Tim Ferriss?

  Alzheimer's disease. They said, well, there are probably 30 to 40 other factors that you would want to weigh pretty heavily. And so I would use something among the suite of AI tools to explore that for myself and ask for some type of weighting, not only to get a better understanding of what they're suggesting, but to fact check it, right? Before I go too far down any road of exploring someone who is offering a product for free, because generally, things that are offered to you for free are the most expensive things you will ever receive. Not always, but very, very often. All right, so that is that question. Kevin, what supplements are you currently taking? Is PAGs or AGs still in the mix?

• 23:55Tim Ferriss?

  I'll explain what that is for people who don't know the reference. And then I'll combine that with a question from Steve. Do you still take magnesium L-3-ylate? And an additional question around supplements. So right now I'm using a ton of stuff because of the surgery and surgical recovery. But I'll answer the PAG AG quickly. I am still taking the AG component of that, which would be alpha lipoic acid, which can be helpful for liver health. So as I'm consuming, for instance, ketone mono esters, there's some evidence to suggest that chronic use could have a negative effect on liver function. So I'm taking alpha lipoic acid. I'm also taking antacytocysteine or NAC.

• 24:41Tim Ferriss?

  And then the two Gs refer to green tea extract and garlic, allison extract. I still find value in those. Polycosonol is the only thing, the PF PAG, that I would put on the question mark chopping block if I were to update the four hour body. That's the only thing in the entire book where I'm like, evidence was split. I made the decision to include it. I would want to go back and revisit. Coming back to other supplements, let me give you my kind of roll call for, let's just say today. So today I'm taking a number of prescription medications for, it's really preemptively avoiding issues that are common in my family.

• 25:25Tim Ferriss?

  So I'm taking something called Uloric, fubuxostat, for managing uric acid levels to avoid future problems with gout, for instance. I'm taking something called Nexlizet. Do not just copy paste this type of stuff for your own use, please. God, don't do that. But this is very personal, requires lots of good medical supervision. But Nexlizet, which is a combination of azetimibe and bempedoic acid.

• 25:53Tim Ferriss?

  Or various lipid profile variables or biomarkers that I care about since most of the males in my family on both sides tend to die of some type of vascular or cardio complication. So I'm taking those. I'm also taking famotidine, otherwise known as Pepsid for possible anti-COVID applications. You should look up the research on that. It's actually pretty fascinating. It may also be a mild vagal tone improver or vagus nerve stimulator, which appears to be through indirect means, but it's pretty interesting.

• 26:35Tim Ferriss?

  Again, talk to your fucking doctors. Do not just copy me on this, but it is pretty fascinating. Then I'm taking the BBC 157, which may or may not be orally available, but since it was recommended to me by a top performance coach, and I want the placebo effect to work for me, I have not bothered to look that one up because I'm quite certain that downside risk is nil, but the GI tract might render that completely inert. Who knows? Back in the day, like 15 years ago, I was injecting that locally, which I really don't recommend either, unless you have professional supervision. So I'm taking that. I mentioned N-acetylcysteine, which I'm taking in the morning, typically taking that between meals. And then throughout

• 27:17Tim Ferriss?

  the day, I'm taking the supplementation which I mentioned, which is the collagen, often with whey protein and vitamin C, prior to any type of straining or training or stretching of the elbow, which is my top priority at the moment. I am also taking maca root extract, which I found to be beneficial for a host of different things, and almost acts like a mild Androgen, like a mild anabolic and seems to have some pretty interesting results. Based on some reports on reproductive health, I still need my twins to work. If I want kids, which I do, so keeping those happy and healthy, hopefully.

• 28:00Tim Ferriss?

  Then as we move through the day, I'm not taking much in the middle of the day. And then at night, right now, because keep in mind, only had surgery a week and a half ago. I am 100% off of any opioids. I really minimized my use of that, but the elbow still hurts. It hurts at night, so I'm taking a combination of THC and CBN to help with pain, which it does. In my case, quite dramatically. Then I'm taking a few other prescription meds. I'm not going to get into because people love taking prescription meds for sleep. I'm probably going to modify that. I'm looking very closely at, I believe it's the DORA, class D O R A, a class of sleep medications. Because there may be some, there appears to be some evidence to support that it could help

• 28:45Tim Ferriss?

  prevent or clear amyloid plaque buildup and tau associated with Alzheimer's. So if I can get a two for one, help me sleep and also perhaps mitigate some risk with the neurodegenerative disease, then I am interested in taking a closer look. So there's that. And I'm taking the MAG3 and 8. And then I am also taking two other things. I take it back for my first meal of the day, which is around two or three PM. Because I'm intermittent fasting right now. I'm taking fish oil, good old fish oil, pure encapsulations. The one O N E has been tested by Kevin Rose and Rhonda Patrick is being quite pure.

• 29:28Tim Ferriss?

  So I'm taking that and I am also taking AReds2, A R E D S two, which is a supplement that is produced by Bausch and Loew, based on clinical research into.

• 29:43Tim Ferriss?

  Helping to improve some types of ocular degeneration, meaning visual problems. So it shouldn't technically work in my particular version of presbyopia, which is the sort of stiffening of the lens, shouldn't technically help. But I do know of a few patients who claim that after six weeks, they saw some type of dramatic reversal, even when it shouldn't have by the letter of the book, helped them out. So since the downside is very low, I would say for me, that's a pretty easy possible upside, limited downside. It contains quite a bit of zinc. So you just have to be careful not to overdose on zinc if you're also taking the multivitamin and so on. Okay. Talk to your doctor since I am not one.

• 30:31Tim Ferriss?

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• 31:54Tim Ferriss?

  To answer a question that just popped up here real quick. In the past, you've mentioned the desire to start a family. Would California, Texas be states you would consider raising children in? Are there factors that might influence you to consider somewhere else? Yeah, I could consider many other places entirely. And California, possibly. Texas, I just don't know from a political, legal, regulatory perspective, how family friendly. It might sound funny to say. Some people are going to get that, some people won't. But I'm not sure that I would want to raise a family in an environment also where access to immersive nature is as challenging as it is in Texas, which is almost entirely privately owned as a state. So California, possibly. There are many, many places that are more

• 32:37Tim Ferriss?

  rural, perhaps, but within striking distance of a decent airport all throughout the country. So I'm not wedded to Texas, California, or either coast, for that matter. So this is a question from Cindy. What are some recent examples of saying no to good things that allowed you to have hell yes moments? Bonus if you have examples of when you should have said no but didn't and the consequences. Fortunately, I don't have any examples that popped to mind of when I should have said no and faced the consequences, although I could pull from my life with many of those. If and when the no book gets published, which is currently an 800-page draft, there will be many, many such examples. But recent examples of saying no to good things that allowed you to have hell yes moments, the one that

• 33:20Tim Ferriss?

  jumps to mind is I was invited to speak at a great event in Europe, and they were wanting to pay me a substantial sum of money. And I had always been tempted to go to this event, and I said no so that I could go to Montana and spend a week in the woods with a number of my closest friends, learning outdoor survival skills with a fantastic teacher who's going to end up on the podcast in the next couple of months. And I would take that trade, especially having experienced it now 100 times out of 100. And being gone off the grid, I mean entirely off the grid, like phone left many, many miles away

• 34:03Tim Ferriss?

  in my bag, has costs, there are always costs, but I would, for those who have not seen it, it's an oldie, but I think it's as relevant, probably more relevant now with every passing year than when I published it, "The Art of Letting Bad Things Happen." It's a blog post that was published a long time ago, but this is very much how I live my life. So, "The Art of Letting Bad Things Happen." And I'm sure that you can find it if you just Google that. All right, this is from J.C. "My question, thinking back to before you started, SISay Foundation, that's my foundation that funds a lot of different things, mostly related to mental health, therapeutics and science that would

• 34:44Tim Ferriss?

  form the basis of this therapeutics. What's the one piece of advice you'd give your younger self on how to best prepare beyond just the money to be a truly effective and focused philanthropist?" I'll give a few pieces of advice. The first would be, and I wrote about this quite a long time ago in a blog post called "Karmic Capitalist," something like that. But effectively, I would've told myself, "Don't wait. You don't have to wait until you have a ton of money." And that's because a lot of these problems are compounding. So, if you can intervene earlier, less money can be worth just as much, if not more, than a lot of money 10, 15 years later. So, I would say, "Don't

• 35:23Tim Ferriss?

  wait," number one. I would say, number two, "Don't do it out of some type of burdensome guilt." A lot of people, I think, give back to try to cleanse their conscience of some type of guilt or other issue that's generally been imposed on them by some de jour social narrative. I don't think that's clean fuel, and it's not very good fuel for the long haul if you're planning on trying to do a lot of good or any good. So, I would say that. And then, last, I would say, "Treat it like for-profit investing." Or at least be very clear about distinguishing between and having separate budgets for feel-good philanthropy.

• 36:08Tim Ferriss?

  It doesn't like I'm doing this because it feels good. Disaster recovery is kind of a good example of that for a lot of reasons. Or do good, which might be like mitigating future disaster scenarios and wildfires and so on, right? As an example, and just being very clear on what is kind of objectively impact driven. That doesn't mean it needs to affect a million people, could affect 10 people in a small pilot trial. And a lot of the science I've funded is incredibly early stage where you can do more with less money. Because it's, at least in the world of say psychedelic therapies, it wasn't de-risked. It was still stigmatized when I was involved, which opened up a lot of interesting opportunities.

• 36:50Tim Ferriss?

  In the same way that Uber was turned down by 300 plus investors when I was getting involved with it in the very beginning. And that actually proved to be very advantageous. Because when things aren't popular, they're not as highly valued and there's a lot more room to maneuver. So I don't know if that is a satisfying answer, but I would say, don't wait. Treat it like for-profit investing. So if you wouldn't invest in it as a potential company, and you have to make certain allowances for this strained metaphor to work. But it's actually very, very analogous to how I approach angel investing, which includes the kind of real world MBA approach of focusing on learning and relationships.

• 37:34Tim Ferriss?

  So skills and relationships, even if the project fails. So I'm still applying that same heuristic to my nonprofit work, not just the for-profit angel investing that I do. Rose, here's a question from you. Recent thing I've changed my mind about, honestly, the value of intermittent fasting. I was very skeptical of intermittent fasting because based on conversations with owners of DEXA facilities and so on, there seemed to be a pattern of a lot of people trying intermittent fasting, where you're limiting your feeding to say, an eight hour window between 2:00 PM and 10:00 PM. That's generally what I'm looking at. I try to squeeze it in and limit it to like 2:00 or 3:00 PM to, let's call it 9:00 PM.

• 38:17Tim Ferriss?

  And I was very skeptical because there seemed to be a number of inherent problems. Number one, people were losing, based on data from owners of DEXA facilities, a lot of lean muscle tissue when they were going on these sort of experimental phases of intermittent fasting. And there were a lot of open questions that I didn't have great answers for. For instance, and this is a question that is also one that was submitted from, and I am gonna butcher this and I apologize, but LUDEX, there's a little upside down carrot on your E, so I don't know how to pronounce that, but how do you actually pull off getting all the protein you need within just an eight hour window? This is a good question.

• 38:59Tim Ferriss?

  And I have, in the process of seeing a number of my relatives disintegrate physically and mentally, in large measure, I think due to metabolic dysfunction, insulin insensitivity, incredibly screwed up glucose metabolism, overtaxed pancreases, et cetera. I began doing intermittent fasting after, let's call it two to four weeks, I want to say it was three to four weeks of strict ketogenic diet. And about two months after that, had the best blood work that I have seen for myself in more than a decade. That includes incredibly high testosterone and other things.

• 39:42Tim Ferriss?

  So it's not just, can you starve yourself into living a very long and miserable life? There were other metrics, performance metrics, including workout journal and strength improvement and muscle mass improvement. So I think there are a couple of key elements, and I'm not the first person to say this, but there are a few key elements that form a productive cocktail for intermittent fasting. One is you have to do resistance training. You must do resistance training. And my experience is you can absorb a lot more protein than you would expect in single settings. So there is this.

• 40:25Tim Ferriss?

  Sort of myth that has been propagated just by repetition along the lines of you can't absorb more than 30 grams of protein in a single sitting. I don't think that's true. And I don't think the literature supports that at all. And in fact, as you get older, there is some published literature to suggest that as one gets older, this is humans, that you absorb more protein, let's just say, over the course of the day, more effectively in fewer sittings. So I'm having in my eight hour window, basically two larger meals to my like two or three PM like today, right? For those might be wondering, nothing super fancy, right? I had a bunch of doctor's appointments and surgeon checkups and so

• 41:09Tim Ferriss?

  on today. And I just went to Chipotle, had a huge burrito bowl. I mean, it was gigantic. So with barbacoa. So, well, thousand plus calories right there. Then come back and it's 5:40 PM right now. I'm going to eat after this and have another like proper meal. But I will almost certainly have one or two protein shakes. And if I hadn't been running around the city all day today, I would have already had one of those protein shakes, which would have added, let's just call it 30 grams of fast acting protein. If I could just wave a magic wand and have everything that I wanted, yeah, sure, I'd be eating cottage cheese or maybe my cell or casein or something that's more slowly digested.

• 41:52Tim Ferriss?

  But way is just easy. I want to get the collagen, that other stuff anyway. And when you add all that up, it's a decent chunk of protein. And you don't need to force feed yourself. But what I have tracked meticulously is body weight, body composition, and a good proxy for a lot of that is just strength. Are you gaining strength or are you maintaining strength or are you losing strength? So intermittent fasting would certainly be, if you were to ask me, if you could only add one chapter to the form of our body, what would it be about? It would be about intermittent fasting. And then if I had to add a second chapter, which isn't really something I changed my mind on, but it would be on biggest nerve stimulation, probably.

• 42:35Tim Ferriss?

  And I encourage you to listen to my Dr. Kevin Tracy episode that came out not too long ago. In how many ways could you finish the sentence? Actually, I still have all of my dot, dot, dot, all of my Dungeons and Dragons hard covers and modules and dice from when I was a kid. That would certainly be one. And all my books on marine biology that I started accumulating when I was age six or something like that. Do I have any bucket list multi-day hikes or treks to complete? That's David. I wouldn't say there are any specifics, but I try to do two or three of those a year.

• 43:15Tim Ferriss?

  So I already have another one, actually two more on the books, one in Mexico and one in Japan, but they don't need to be that far flung. Right? We were in Montana, which is beyond gorgeous. So I would say no individual hikes or routes come to mind, but definitely plenty. I think Glacier National Park would be high on my list of, of dream locations. All right. It's from Tim. If you had to pick one specific moment that felt like disaster at the time, but later became the most catalytic gift, what was it? And what chain of events turned into that gift? Some of you will know this, but I'll say it anyway, because it's the most standout example.

• 43:57Tim Ferriss?

  That is when The Four Hour Chef, this book on accelerated learning, really, really underperformed when it was published. And I put my heart and soul, there's so much blood, sweat and tears that went into that, literally. And super proud of that book, but because it was published through Amazon Publishing, it was the first mega title that was used to announce the existence or the launch of Amazon Publishing, where they went head to head against their publisher partners, in effect, for scouting author talent and putting out their own titles. It was boycotted by everybody. And I expected Barnes and Noble. I did not foresee Costco and all these other big box retailers and Indies, of course. And that smashed the book on the New York Times.

• 44:42Tim Ferriss?

  It still hit number four, but it should have been number one. And

• 44:48Tim Ferriss?

  During the launch of The Four Hour Chef, as with the launch of anything I do, I'm always looking for a channel that I can learn a lot about that is undervalued and quickly growing. And at the time, in 2012, that was podcasts. So I fell in love with podcasts. And then when I was completely demolished and my ego is shattered to pieces by The Four Hour Chef, performing so poorly relative to my other books, even though still, I went to one of the top restaurants in Austin and the maître d' came out after the meal and said, "The exec chef just wanted to say a huge thanks to you because the first cookbook he ever bought was The Four Hour Chef." This is one of the top restaurants in Austin, which is a major food town. So there are these examples that are really incredibly rewarding, and there are a lot

• 45:33Tim Ferriss?

  of them, actually. But if it had not been for that burnout, I would not have decided to take a cold turkey break from books and launch my own podcast as a test. As a test with a graceful exit, I think I committed to six to 10 episodes. And here we are, more than a decade and 800 episodes later. Cindy, would love to hear how it feels to be in a season of life when you inspire people towards high performance and learning over 15 years. Now with Coyote, you're bringing absolute delight and laughter to people's lives. It feels great because frankly, what the hell are we doing here on this spinning rock? We're on a one-way trip, as far as we can tell. Productivity is important and having a sense of purpose and meaning, these are important,

• 46:14Tim Ferriss?

  but they are, I would argue, and maybe this is just the voice of someone who's nonreligious speaking, but somewhat arbitrary. You're picking a story that works for you, much like Seth Godin has said, "Money is a story past a certain point, so pick one that you can live with." It's like, yes, all of those things are true and important, but they're pretty subjective. And the more you study history, the more you realize the idea of, you know, leaving your legacy by putting in an extra 10 hours a week in your Microsoft Teams or whatever is probably not going to matter in the grand scheme of things. If you just listen to the Fall of Civilizations podcast and you're like, oh, wow. Yeah, the Assyrians used to be a really big deal. Oh, yeah, Babylonians too. Like, how many Sumerians do you know?

• 46:59Tim Ferriss?

  As Nefal Ravka would ask, like, none, right? So the more you let go of this heavy rock of being preoccupied with legacy, the more you realize. Also, when you do a past year review, as I always do, and when you do a past year review and you look back over the year at your peak emotional experiences, your peak positive experiences, a lot of them are just hanging out with friends or family, doing something engaging, sitting around a fire, going fishing, going on a hike, none of which tend to cost that much money. Or they could be replaced with something very similar that doesn't cost a lot of money. So I feel like that realization is very freeing and nourishing and is something you can cultivate very quickly.

• 47:43Tim Ferriss?

  But for, I mean, millions of people who have been type A for too long, including yours truly, you're used to sixth gear and you don't know what any of the other gears feel like unless you burn out and then you're in park. So you know, park, when you blow up, your wheels go flying off and you know sixth gear. But showing people that's like, hey, you actually have five other gears is something I had to learn. I hate to sound like an old bastard, but you know, the hard way through just like lots of self inflicted wounds. And it feels really great to have something that costs 10 bucks, you know, takes 10 minutes to play

• 48:25Tim Ferriss?

  that you can reliably inject into like a family evening or something like that. Or I don't know if you guys have seen one of the more recent videos that I put up on Instagram that a family put up with like four or five kids just going completely fucking bananas, you know? Having so much fun, they're all interacting, no screens and feels great. Yeah, it feels really, really, really fantastic, which is part of the reason why I keep talking about it. Cause I'm just like, guys, like if you take yourself and your work too seriously for too long, like the really serious stuff isn't going to get done. You need recovery and fun is a great way to recover. This is from Nicholas. What interesting ideas from people of the past do you think could

• 49:08Tim Ferriss?

  be important in the future? For instance, Charles Babbage's work on computing machines would later be picked up as a reference for the first computers in the US. Lots of machine learning research from around the 50s was later useful once hardware caught up. I don't have a great computer science example to respond with, but I will say that I have done a lot of reading of very old research related to extended human fasting. And for a lot of reasons, in the US, with the IRB approval and like Ethics Board approvals and so on, it's incredibly hard to do extended fasting in humans. I don't know when and why exactly that happened, but there was a point where it just stopped. And I guess

• 49:52Tim Ferriss?

  it was just deemed cruel and unusual punishment or something. And that's a shame, because I do feel like fasting is the oldest cure, right? If you look at pretty much any mammal, and this is probably applies to creatures well outside of mammals, if they're sick, if they're injured, what do they do? They fast. That is the instinct. That is the evolved instinct. And I really look forward to, and may end up if I have to, funding that type of science. I literally have a printout in my hotel room that's about 40 pages, written

• 50:32Tim Ferriss?

  up in English, describing the findings of a Soviet psychiatrist who was the executive director of this center that fasted thousands of patients with schizophrenia and other psychiatric disorders for 30-plus days. Some of the mechanisms they propose are wrong. We know that now. But in a culture, in a modern world, where most people, and that includes all of us probably on this Zoom, are incentivized to add things, right? We're also sold in a then, look, I think capitalism is kind of the best of the worst systems that we have. So I'm obviously a

• 51:11Tim Ferriss?

  Avid participant capitalism, but when you are constantly sold things, people want you to buy more stuff, not less stuff, right? And therefore, I think even in, or perhaps especially in medicine, there are a lot of incentives. And unfortunately, a lot of kind of large incumbent regulatory capture players who perpetuate an ecosystem that relies on kind of recurring revenue through taking medicine forever. But I think the subtractive approach is more interesting. In part, it's more interesting to me because it's less discussed and more neglected. And there are compliance issues. How do you actually get people to fast? Which is where a fasting mimicking diet, say, so the research of Falter Longo and something

• 51:55Tim Ferriss?

  coming out tomorrow on the podcast with Dominic D'Agostino, sardine fasting, you should check that out, it's pretty wild. And also medications that might in some way provide you with the cellular repair and self cleaning, the autophagy and mitophagy and things like this that are associated with fasting. So could you do that with some combination of medications like rapamycin and others? Could you do it exogenous ketones or the ketogenic diet? You know, what are alternatives that are nonetheless overlapping with fasting? So, long answer to a short question, but I would say fasting was, there was a lot of research being done and then it just kind of disappeared.

• 52:41Tim Ferriss?

  And then what you're left with is private clinics that have some shit to sell you, who are doing their own self-funded quote unquote studies that are ultimately being used to drive more people to sign up for their programs or become vegan or whatever the agenda happens to be. That's a real example. All right, let's see. Rose's most magical experiences in New Mexico would have been a Zen meditation retreat at Henry Schukman's Center in Santa Fe, just incredibly beautiful and I think magical is the right word for it. Small group, six to eight people, mountain cloud Zen Center. So, mountain cloud Zen Center, for anyone who wants to look it up, it is gorgeous.

• 53:22Tim Ferriss?

  Okay, this question on two meta skills that would be disproportionately valuable in the AI era, honestly, and this is gonna sound like I'm trying to prop up the book I told you didn't perform the way I wanted it to, but For Our Chef has got it all. I think the only insurance you have is being hyper-adaptable and a world-class learner. I don't think there's any other answer I can confidently provide. Even the people at the top of the game, who are at the absolute apex of the AI world, who are working on these products every day, all day, don't know what it's gonna look like in 18 months. They really don't. If they've had a few glasses of wine and they're being honest, they're like, "Yeah, possible to predict. Look at the rate of change." Okay, there were a couple of questions. Like, I'm gonna hop back to the written questions now, based on the cock punch

• 54:07Tim Ferriss?

  mention, because there are a couple of questions about cock punch stuff. That's also Jack and a bunch of others who asked about this. So, the cock punch side of things is fascinating, right? Because the NFT world is on some level, I would say, on life support, right? So, it's very hard to predict what's gonna happen with NFTs. But with respect to the actual world-building that I did, and Varlata, particularly the last few chapters that were published on the podcast with Tyrolian, I have a very, very clear vision for what I think an incredible film would look like, whether that's animated or live-action,

• 54:53Tim Ferriss?

  or some blend, or AI-produced for that matter. And I have a very, very clear storyline. So, what I'm trying to do right now on the East Coast is corner a number of my friends who spend all their time on these tools. That's what they get paid to do all day long, so that I can put together a movie trailer. And that's just mostly for my fun. I really wanna do it, because I think it'd be incredibly exciting and fun to do, at least the way I see it in my head, which is like a comic book penciller or director, I guess. Like, I very naturally, because of my obsession with comics for so long, and wanting to be a comic book penciller, think in terms of cuts and angles and framing and everything. Just part of the reason why I put up that giant coffee table book,

• 55:38Tim Ferriss?

  which is a collector's edition of Sin City by Frank Miller, because you get to see underneath the finished inking, a lot of the pencil marks and the rubber cement. All the white out and so on. You get to see the process that's hidden underneath. So that for me is kind of the next step. It's like hopefully creating a movie trailer. And if that gives me the kind of quickening and that wellspring of energy, that makes me feel like I've grabbed a productive third rail of chi or something. Now I'll be like, okay, let's see how other people respond to it and show a couple of friends. And if they're like, if I get that response, then I'll probably push a little harder. But as I mentioned earlier, I do have a couple of other things on the plate, including that 800 page book.

• 56:23Tim Ferriss?

  So you can only do so many things in parallel. But that's one that I think over a weekend or like two or three days, if the tools are good enough and I have people sitting right next to me who are good enough with the cutting edge of say, animation slash video production using AI tools. I feel like it should be at least to my muggle mind, pretty straightforward. But I don't know how good these models are at following literal explicit directions. Right? Like this for a half second, this for a quarter second, this. I don't think they're actually going to cooperate. I think they're going to be like petulant little two year olds and make a mess of things. Throw their construction blocks all over the floor.

• 57:05Tim Ferriss?

  Then I'll have to clean it all up. So I think it'll be harder than I would like. But we'll get there. So that I think is next up. So Guido, I don't have any thoughts on the Johnny Depp and Ridley Scott's Hyde Comma collaboration. Honestly, it's the first time I'm hearing of it. So I will need to check that out to see what I can pick up from creative process. All right. Me, we talked about Mag 3 and 8. I answered that. All right. Designing small experiments. What's one experiment you've run in the past year that gave you outsized returns personally, professionally? And what made it work? I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but it would have been Coyote for sure. Just as a creative unlock and like an energy tap,

• 57:46Tim Ferriss?

  sort of fracking your psyche for increased energy. What made it work was finding someone I would pay to spend time with anyway. And that's Alon Lee. And certainly there are many other people on the team for Exploding Kittens, who made the entire Coyote project incredibly worthwhile. So many amazing folks on that team. But fundamentally, it was my first contact and conversation with Alon where I was like, okay.

• 58:12Tim Ferriss?

  This guy is so hilarious, so smart, so technical, which a lot of people do not realize, and just so gifted in so many things as a polymath. Like, I would just pay to hang out with this guy. I think that's what made it work. Let me answer another quick question on the Verlata movie. Do I see the film as something that can belong to the emergent long fiction model? Or would that shift the project into a different creative framework? I think it would be a different creative framework. And for me, I just have such a clear vision on what this entire story looks like. I think it would be fucking nuts. Like, if someone was like, Tim, you're the benevolent dictator of Hollywood, you can just tell everybody what to do. Like, I would cast Tom Hardy. And I would cast someone who's like a younger version of Timothy Chalamet.

• 58:55Tim Ferriss?

  And that would be the father and son pair. And I would... Sasha, do you raise your hand?

• 59:05Tim Ferriss?

  You know, I mean, it's actually not a bad fit. And then I see exactly how this thing would unfold. It would be a fucking incredibly exciting, fun film. I have the utmost confidence, but alas, I do not have the ability to force people with, you know, $100 million a budget just to do what I want. So we'll see. I don't think I'm willing to bet the farm on it. Which is why I want to play with these AI tools first. Like, let's do a proof of concept at a very low cost and see if it gets a couple of people to hold their breath. Or go, holy fucking shit. Like, can I make someone speechless with it? For like, a couple of seconds? Or just make them lose their composure in an interesting way? That's gonna be my test. I'm gonna butcher this name, I apologize.

• 59:49Tim Ferriss?

  Hiloska? Alright, I'm getting back into competitive chess after having been away from it for many years. If you treated it like a mental sport, how would you train recovery, focus, and stamina? Expensive keto nesters are sadly out of my budget. Yeah, they add up. Alright. So I would treat chess as a mental sport. It's also a physical sport, depending on how long the games last. And I wish I had my friend Josh Waitzkin here with me right now to take a stab at this, but I think you can treat it like a sport, just like esports. You can't play esports 24 hours a day. You're going to run out of sufficient levels of certain neurotransmitters and glycogen and all that, just like a Tour de France athlete. So there are biological limiters, like rate limiting steps. Okay.

• 1:00:32Tim Ferriss?

  So how would I think about it? First, I would just make a huge list of options. And as a competitive chess player, I would basically go through and document on a piece of paper. Maybe you do this first, but your failure modes, right? When have you made mistakes? When have you lost games that you feel like you should have won? What were the causes? Was it not enough sleep? Was it too long of a game? Was it emotional dysregulation because someone was playing dirty or otherwise fucking around with you? And that definitely happens in chess. What was it? So what are your top 10, top 20, kind of like failure modes or failure stories? So you could dissect that. But in my case, I would say a few things.

• 1:01:16Tim Ferriss?

  One is getting your glucose metabolism and glucose energy management as stable as possible. And I think I really feel like intermittent fasting on a 16/8 format. So eight hours of eating between, let's just call it for simplicity, like 2:00 PM and 10:00 PM is a great way. It takes about a week of being pissy and grumpy to acclimate. But after about a week to 10 days, everything stabilizes and you end up having a lot more energy consistently. You just do not have the ups and downs. Be careful, too much coffee also, which spikes

• 1:01:58Tim Ferriss?

  insulin, even if it doesn't spike your glucose levels, although it very often will also spike your glucose levels with the release of glycogen. So just be aware of moderating your caffeine intake, because part of the reason I at least crash after too much caffeine, like 30 to 45 minutes later, it's not that the caffeine itself by itself is fast metabolized, and I am a caffeine fast metabolizer. It is the effect on insulin and glucose. I and many others have tracked this. Then there's all sorts of stuff you can play around with. So for instance, even if exogenous ketones are out of your budget, MCT oil may not be, definitely be close to a bathroom when you first start experimenting with MCT oil.

• 1:02:43Tim Ferriss?

  But MCT oil, whether it's oil or powdered, make sure you check the expiration date. Do not consume out of date oil. Don't play that game. It's not going to be good for you. But MCT oil does have some very interesting case studies and I think also clinical trials that you can look at in terms of cognitive enhancement, typically done in older subpopulations. But I do think that's interesting, right? It's certainly a lot cheaper than a ketone monoester. There are other ketones that are less expensive than the ketone monoester, like Keto Start made by Dom D'Agostino, which is a electrolyte and ketone salt combination. But forget about exogenous ketones for a second. You could also play with a ketogenic diet, right?

• 1:03:27Tim Ferriss?

  That can be done inexpensively. Like if you have macadamia nuts, sardines, some oil, you're pretty much set. And some salad greens, like the ketogenic diet doesn't need to be expensive. If that's too much of a pain in the ass, as I mentioned, I feel like stabilizing your glucose metabolism is like priority number one, right? We were talking about sequencing and putting kind of problems in order. You will end up throwing a lot of Band-Aids on the problem if you don't have that checked off first. You'll be consuming all sorts of smart drugs and caffeine and nicotine and blah, blah, blah, which is like pissing in the wind if you haven't fixed kind of the underlying system first. So I would probably suggest speak with your medical professional, yada, yada, yada, right? But that that's an easy kind of on-ramp to addressing that.

• 1:04:12Tim Ferriss?

  And then there's all sorts of stuff that can help, but there's no free lunch, right? So I'm sure that modafinil is used by some competitive chess players. I don't know what the doping. Protocols are, I don't know what is banned, if anything, for competitive chess. I don't know if they test, but I'm sure people are using things like modafinil, just anti narcolepsy drug that was very popular among Olympic sprinters before it was banned. It was like, wow, what a coincidence. Like, all of the finalists for the gold medal run are diagnosed narcoleptics? Wow, what a crazy coincidence, because then they could legally use modafinil as a stimulant. I am sure there are many, many other things I would look at archery. So I'm sure, just as people use it for music auditions, things like beta blockers.

• 1:04:58Tim Ferriss?

  I'm not recommending you use any of these drugs, by the way. I'm just saying, these are things that are probably in the mix. I'm sure people are using nicotine. And Andrew Huberman's talked a lot about this. Peter Tia also has talked a lot about nicotine. A lot of my friends are now hooked on nicotine. And I would just say, it is very addictive. It's kind of like, in my mind, sort of second in place to heroin. So just know what you're signing up for. And then there are the old school smart drugs, like hydrogen or the Racetams. A little known fact, hydrogen, I believe, was created by Albert Hofmann, who also created LSD. Fascinating drug. That guy was super genius. And so on and so forth.

• 1:05:40Tim Ferriss?

  I imagine there are also people who are microdosing. I could see there being advantages to that. If you overshoot, you're going to be in a world of trouble, and it's not going to be very pleasant. But I'm sure there are people who are microdosing, using something like 50 to 100 milligrams of dried psilocybe mushrooms, plus caffeine at the right time, plus ketones at the right time. Right? That's a pretty interesting stool of a cocktail. But fundamentally, I would say glucose management. And just like an endurance cyclist, depending on the duration of the event, how are you going to fuel? How are you allowed to fuel? If you're not allowed to fuel, I don't know the rules, but if you're not allowed to fuel across multiple hours, then some version of ketosis is probably going to be very helpful.

• 1:06:25Tim Ferriss?

  And I'm gonna stop there, but this could be applied to just about anything, including podcasting, by the way. Kate, are you working on any unexpected projects that people wouldn't instantly associate with you? You know, behind the scenes, I have been working on all sorts of stuff that I haven't talked about that much, related to trying to incentivize humans to unfuck the planet a bit, and hopefully head off some of the problems that are coming our way at high speed over the horizon with technology. So I've been very involved going back at least five years,

• 1:07:05Tim Ferriss?

  but in fusion, looking at different types of different nuclear options for clean energy. And I want to give credit where credit is due, since I'm reading his book right now, but Pablo Holman talks about this, and he said, basically, people conflated nuclear weapons with nuclear reactors, and the wrong one got banned. So fusion is a place that I'm spending a bunch of time. I'm looking at ways of addressing emissions in various ways, like algae feed additives to reduce methane production from cows. It sounds funny, maybe, but actually a pretty big lever. Meat alternatives for scalable protein, even though I'm an avid meat consumer and one of the

• 1:07:50Tim Ferriss?

  largest investors in Maui Newey venison, which is the most nutritious red meat you can purchase on the planet, arguably. And yet, depending on how things swing, I really do think that having scalable, easy to harvest, space-efficient protein is going to be increasingly important. So those are a few of the things that, kind of behind the scenes, I'm involved with, that I haven't talked too much about. I don't want to sound like some self-congratulatory eco-warrior who's just patting himself on the back because he has too much time, you know, like there's so many of those people. I just don't want to be one of them. So I don't talk too much about that stuff, but I do think it's really fucking important. David, what's one country you wished

• 1:08:34Tim Ferriss?

  you visited earlier or can't believe you haven't been to yet? One country, now this is going to be controversial, depending on who you ask.

• 1:08:43Tim Ferriss?

  As far as country status, but I would say Taiwan. Taiwan is just one of my favorite places on earth. I went there for the first time around ninety nine, I guess, nineteen ninety nine, and fell in love with it, was there for two or three summers, and then had no opportunity or didn't make the time to go back until a few months ago. And I just love Taiwan, in part because Taiwan really preserved a lot of the culture that was demolished during the Cultural Revolution in mainland China. People are very friendly, very polite. The food is fantastic, tons of natural beauty. It is a speck of an island, it is very small,

• 1:09:29Tim Ferriss?

  which on the plus side means that you can explore a whole hell of a lot of it very, very easily. There's incredible nature and waterfalls and rivers and rainforests within less than an hour drive of Taipei. I just love that place. So if that's on your wish list, I would suggest visiting sooner rather than later. And you know, I'm sure there are tons of other places that I haven't spent time. I haven't spent time in all sorts of countries that are interesting to me for a bunch of different reasons, like Estonia, you know, these smaller countries, Lithuania, that all punch above their weight class in certain ways, like Lithuanian basketball. Go look up Lithuanian basketball history, it's completely bananas.

• 1:10:12Tim Ferriss?

  Look up Lithuania Basketball and the Grateful Dead, if you want an amazing story, true fact, check it out. And they're just a bunch of little tiny countries sprinkled around that I have never had the opportunity to visit that I would like to check out. So who knows? I would say it's tough because there are so many other places I have visited, which are confirmed awesome for Tim. And they're just guaranteed bets. It's like, how many speculative? Kind of missions do I want to go on versus just doubling down on the things I know are going to be absolutely fantastic. You know, the Japans and the Italis and so on, right? Argentina, even though they can't seem to, like every three or four years, they just light their

• 1:10:55Tim Ferriss?

  whole country on fire. But I do love Argentina. Too bad about that whole crypto thing with me. Like, come on. What a mess. They just can't help themselves. So I would say those are a couple that come to mind. This is a comment slash question from Jiho who couldn't make this because she's on a plane, but I'll just read the kind of relevant part here, the most relevant for the group. Saying no is important, but I believe there are moments in life when not yet, in quotation marks, is wiser than no, especially in the early stages of growth before reaching any kind of summit. I think we need a phase of openness, a time to welcome and experiment rather than reject. What do you think about that? Yeah, I agree with that. I think in part, and this is certainly in the four hour work week as well, you need to figure out what you're good at, what you're good at. And part of that

• 1:11:40Tim Ferriss?

  is like, what do you find easier to do than other people? Or is there anything that other people really dislike doing that you happen to love doing, or at least tolerate doing, right? And then, kind of, what do other people seem interested in, right? What are other people going to value? But at the very top of that is, what are you good at? And to figure that out, you do have to throw a lot against the wall. And I think that engineering for more serendipity rather than less is a good idea, because your ability to predict that is going to be terrible, generally speaking. But I would say that for every example of someone who has radical openness, there's also somebody who figured out, they tend to be people who figured it out reasonably early, either something they absolutely wanted to do and that was it,

• 1:12:25Tim Ferriss?

  like Frank Miller, I think Frank Miller, when he was like age five, is one of the top comic book artists and writers of all time, right? Sin City, Batman Year One, like the list is super long, 300, et cetera. And he decided when he was five years old, that's what he was gonna do. Right? Or you take like a Michael Phelps or whatever. But that tends to correspond to someone finding something that they are good at, or that gives them effectively an unending

• 1:12:56Tim Ferriss?

  Supply of energy, right, which then provides you with the fuel to get really good. All right. So those are kind of the two things that I would look for if you're throwing a lot against the wall. But once you figure that out, even partially, I think that going through a period of having a closed door policy, which is just like,

• 1:13:14Tim Ferriss?

  there's my summit in the future and anything against me closer is a yes and then gets me off to the side or causes me to divert is a no, I think is is a good practice. And again, coming back to the discussion around Austin, San Francisco, like they don't need to be mutually exclusive. You can alternate. And it doesn't need to be one forever. It doesn't need to be one for a year, it could be one for a month. And certainly if I'm going to focus on saying, you know, a movie script or a book or Coyote, right? Why did I shelve the notebook? Because I wanted to single task on Coyote and the game and maximizing everything about it, right? In the early stages, the development and the play testing and the tweaking and the iterating and all of that. And then now

• 1:13:57Tim Ferriss?

  more the retail distribution optimization and things like that. So until I feel like I have seen that to escape velocity, or at least taken it as far as I can within a reason, I'm not going to say yes to things that cause me to sort of deviate off of that. Congratulations on Coyote. Are you already thinking about another game to make the most of the skills and knowledge you've gained? Not yet. I'm tempted to because that's like the fun brainstorming Fantasyland side of things that is always the most fun for me. But I recognize that that is going to pull Tim the Beast of Burden away from the yoke that he needs to push around in a wheel. So I haven't thought about it, to be honest. I'm disallowing myself. I'm forbidding myself from thinking about it until I do as much as possible with Coyote.

• 1:14:43Tim Ferriss?

  Cindy, love the four hour chef and still use it regularly. Thank you. All right, this is Hugo. Do you prefer doing a podcast with big headphones versus in-ear AirPods? Why? I do, and that is because these AirPods, which I'm holding up, run out of battery. And also sometimes have connectivity issues and so on via Bluetooth. So I prefer to have a hard connection, which is what I'm using right now, an Audio Technica headset with this as backup audio at highest fidelity via QuickTime. Two is one and one is none. So good to have backup. Life Olsen, what do you think the uncrowded channel is right now? Is it still in person? I do think in person is still reliably uncrowded.

• 1:15:24Tim Ferriss?

  I think a lot of legacy technologies are uncrowded as newer things get shiny and are made shiny and sold as very sexy. So email, possibly older platforms, something I've been looking at very closely. Like, could we, for instance, use Pinterest and Quora and other sites or platforms that are not currently like the youngest hottest girl at the dance, like whatever latest short form social media thing has happened to show up? What are some tried and true proven platforms that just aren't getting the airtime of the latest and greatest? Not saying that is the answer, it's just it's an open question for me that I'm looking at pretty, pretty closely.

• 1:16:09Tim Ferriss?

  Stephanie, Monopoly Deal, great game, and Coyote, biased, I think it's also a great game, are my go-to card games with family and friends, so much fun, thank you for that. Okay, Rashida, you're recommending Dr. Mindy Pelz's Resetter podcast, she wrote Eat Like a Girl and Fast Like a Girl, all about fasting. That's interesting to me also because women tend to have a harder time with fasting, and particularly depending on your, if you have sort of family planning imminently, that'd be good to speak to proper medical professionals about, but that is interesting. I mean, because there are some, appear to be some pretty heavily gender differences in how men and women respond to fasting, or adapt to a ketogenic diet for that matter. So that's a great recommendation, I'll check it out.

• 1:16:52Tim Ferriss?

  Kevin Rose's Zero Fasting App, yes, for fasting, great one.

• 1:16:58Tim Ferriss?

  I do know Robert Rodriguez, great studio and in Texas, so yes, at some point. Robert has been, to his credit, busting my balls about being a lazy ass MF'er about not biting the bullet with doing something in film. So I appreciate Robert for pointing out the obvious, which is like he can do 12 projects at once and I've yet to even do a short film. So I appreciate that and yes, he's right in my backyard and a friend and just an awesome human being. I have looked into fast neutron reactors, David, thank you for asking. Yeah, there's a lot of interesting stuff in that area. Also, just frankly, building more legacy designs with, you know, water cooling and so on. I mean, just putting more reactors in play, if you want to really...

• 1:17:43Tim Ferriss?

  Great wake up call. You can just type into ChatGPT, what is the status of nuclear power in China versus the US? And somebody asked about the bugatti of ketones that I mentioned on the random show. And if I would be willing to disclose, I'm not willing to disclose yet because there is the possibility that chronic use of an alcohol bonded monoester could negatively affect liver function. And I want to do the homework on that. There seem to be some ways to mitigate that. So number one, just don't become a ketone addict and take them all day. Secondly, maybe consuming with MCT oil has some beneficial effect. Certainly,

• 1:18:26Tim Ferriss?

  some of the supplements I mentioned, NAC, ALA, et cetera. I mean, there are all suite of other things you might take for liver support might also mitigate some of the risk. But I want to do more homework because I realize what will happen if I recommend this particular thing is that a lot of people are going to buy it. And that'll be the last time they ever listen to me. And if they don't hear my findings later, which are like, hey, guys, remember that thing, like, cut back, only take this much per day, or stop taking it. They may not hear that disclaimer after the fact. So I'm trying to do more heavy lifting on my side in terms of due diligence. I have not watched the Four Seasons. I'm assuming

• 1:19:07Tim Ferriss?

  that's not related to the hotel. Okay, would have been some of the best locations for when you've taken your extended family places. Yep, anything that is built for family outings, honestly, makes it so much easier. So if there's something with outdoor activities for the youngsters, some hiking, a pond, then I think there's a lot to be done. For instance, there's a beautiful place in upstate New York called Mohawk Mountain House. It's absolutely stunning. It's been around. It's basically like Dirty Dancing in upstate New York. It's been around for like 100 years. Somebody puts a baby in a corner. You know, it's a fantastic spot. And you have activities for anyone and everyone. And they can accommodate

• 1:19:50Tim Ferriss?

  people in wheelchairs and so on. Right? So for an extended family outing, that would be very high up. Taking my family, and of course, location would vary on person, but taking my family on a basically a family tree trip and going to different countries where

• 1:20:07Tim Ferriss?

  We can trace our bloodline, bloodlines, honestly. I mean, what a mutt. I mean, I'm a, as European a mutt as you can possibly imagine, but picking kind of the top percentages on, you know, ancestry.com or something like that and going on a trip like that was really fun. The list could go on and on, but for an extended family, I would say, choose a place that's accustomed dealing with extended families. Any notebook meetups at some point? Yes, I would plan on some notebook meetups for sure. Once this thing is done and people can actually get together and compare notes, I would say almost certainly we could do them ahead of time as well. If you guys wanted to meet up, I mean, there's nothing kind of preventing that.

• 1:20:49Tim Ferriss?

  Just, I would say, let me know how I and my team can facilitate that. Hopefully that was interesting. I appreciate all the questions and participation. Thanks, everybody, and I hope you had a wonderful Labor Day extended weekend. For those of you who are in the right country for that, even if not, I hope you enjoyed your last weekend. And I am gonna leave it at that, but always appreciate you guys. Thanks for all the engagement and the questions and the thoughtful follow-ups and everything else. So have a wonderful night. Take care, guys.

• 1:21:21Tim Ferriss?

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• 1:22:04Tim Ferriss?

  And these strange esoteric things end up in my field and then I test them and then I share them with you. So if that sounds fun, again, it's very short, a little tiny bite of goodness before you head off for the weekend, something to think about. If you'd like to try it out, just go to tim.blog/friday, type that into your browser, tim.blog/friday, drop in your email and you'll get the very next one. Thanks for listening.

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