Trump Threatens Iran, Britain Targets Billionaires & Lesbian Bar Freakout | PBD Podcast #862

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down President Donald Trump’s high-stakes meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping, U. S.-China relations, Taiwan, trade, AI, and Iran. Plus, Trump’s UN General Assembly showdown over Iran, Harvey Weinstein’s 15-year prison sentence, rising Treasury yields, diesel prices, and more. A special contest winner also joins the Home Team live in studio. 👞 GET THE FLB1’s IN CHOCOLATE: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 👖 SHOP THE FLB TECH PANTS: https://bit.ly/4iO4rNB 👞 GET THE NEW BILLIONAIRE SUEDE LOAFER: https://bit.ly/4ym5oRA 👕 SHOP THE ICON COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3TuUU3x Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCIHdDJ0tjn_3j-FS7s_X1kQ @ValuetainmentComedy https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCBhk5IGscWGP53VhaOs8Apg ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of two boys and two girls. He currently resides in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:14Patrick Bet-David?

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here. You are a one of one?

• 0:19Speaker 01

  My son's right there.

• 0:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I have. I've never touched a rake. Yeah. Tom, have you touched a chainsaw?

• 0:30Tom Ellsworth?

  As a matter of fact, yes.

• 0:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are you asking? Oh, man. As a matter of fact, yes, oh, hell. I, Montana, I almost killed myself. And we're live, guys. Yeah, I know we are, but the reason why...

• 0:40Tom Ellsworth?

  We had a tornado that came through Dallas, remember that kind of mid-sized one?

• 0:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 0:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I went out there with the chainsaw and I helped Claire Parker. There was these two trees went down, these two guys, we had these three saws.

• 0:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I just wanted to know if you've used it, Tom.

• 0:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, no, definitely.

• 0:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So you have used it, okay, all right, so...

• 0:55Tom Ellsworth?

  You have to know what you're doing.

• 0:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you? I was in the military, we use everything.

• 0:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh.

• 0:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So of course, yes.

• 1:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 1:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, but we have a special guest here with us. A few months back, we announced a certain contest for people to be able to participate on the podcast. Today, we have Chris Wagner. But Wagner is the way we say like Hannes Wagner, we have Chris Wagner here from Indiana. Okay, we've never met until we went to dinner last night and we found out six weeks ago, this man had his sixth baby, okay? And he's got six kids in seven years with the same woman, not a traditional Catholic, not a Mormon, just a regular guy that wants to make babies. So Chris, it's great to have you on the podcast. Thanks a lot, man, can't wait. And how did it happen, by the way? You just, you bought merch and then we called you and we ran a raffle and you came in? Yeah, you announced the raffle, I thought maybe it's real, and yeah, and then, hey, here we are. Let me ask you, have we ever met? No.

• 1:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Until last night, by the way, sometimes people are like, they picked their favorite. Yeah, right. We've never met, this is it, it just kind of happened and we're about to have you. I was gonna say, honestly, I thought I was selected maybe because of, you know, you guys, the family and stuff, you guys, you know, it's all about family on the podcast, you got six kids, married, so, I don't know. Oh, you thought I was it because of the thing? I thought maybe it wasn't random, but I don't know. All right, so...

• 2:05Tom Ellsworth?

  It was completely random.

• 2:06Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, when I tell you complete, we, they tell me, I don't even know, they just tell me, here's a raffle, here's who was selected. But it's great to have you here, for the people that are watching this, if you want to find a way to how to get on the podcast, text the word PODCAST to 3103401132, again, text the word PODCAST to 3103401132. And we typically tell our community first when we do crazy things like this, but with that being said, we got a lot of weird things going on. My favorite story is the one from Britain, okay? Yeah. And by the way, as crazy as this story is, watch how many blue states take this idea.

• 2:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, God.

• 2:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Britain announces that they're gonna have dedicated IRS agents for every one of their billionaires in Britain. Which, by the way, if you think about it, it's a brilliant idea, you pay the IRS agent how much money? 60K a year? 6,000. 70K a year? Go get the money. And go get an additional percent, 2%, 3% on a billionaire, 18 million, 17 million? And all... Dedicated IRS agent for you, Mr. Vinnie Billionaire. Is he at the house? Is he at the house? He's following every move you make. What was that? Every move you make. We'll definitely talk about that story. There's a story circulating, Alina Haba, I gotta say this, I'm gonna keep it very brief, and Vinnie's not happy about it. Okay, I mean, we were having an extensive conversation about, you know, rumor has it, Alina Haba is with somebody. It's a new story.

• 3:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Engaged.

• 3:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Engaged, and, and anyways, I don't want to get into it, it's a little emotional.

• 3:30Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a lot of upset men out there.

• 3:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we turn off the camera? I don't want people to see Vinnie's, uh, don't zoom in on Vinnie. Alina! Anyways, congratulations, whatever, Vinnie wasn't happy and it's been three years and three months, he hasn't had an alcohol, it's gonna start tonight, so it's gonna be a very... Chris, you're coming with me, bro. All right, next story.

• 3:47Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm confused, we haven't seen her in a while, I thought she was working for the British government and just was assigned to the billionaire. No? She actually met the guy?

• 3:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that, is that... Did you get it? I got it. To all the people with MBAs and PhDs that are laughing, I respect you. That was a joke for people that are part of this community. The, the castle on the... You know, with community, the rest of the people that have never done this, if you don't even know what I'm doing, you're like, what is he, is he drawing something? Don't worry about it, it's not fraud.

• 4:09Tom Ellsworth?

  You were going to a next story.

• 4:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so next story is Sunny Hostin thought it was a good idea to talk about what she did as a jury back in the days, that a lot of people who have been investigating is saying, I think she's even full of shit, but why would you even tell the story? Yeah. It's such a dark story, it's like, hey, let's just say that's your mom, mom, please don't ever share that story. Ever. Let's say you're a parent, honey, why would you ever share the story? You're a friend, hey, don't, you're on the view, someone, you kick him under the table, be quiet, cut the clip, too late, people now know, crazy, right? Crazy. And we have to tell this story because, you know, she, she just, I don't know, she's a wild one. Next, we had the United, is it the United Nation meeting?

• 4:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And also Xi, we haven't reacted to either one of them, the President of the United States, Trump gets up and he calls out Iran, and he says, we can annihilate you, I don't know what the word he uses, but something like that, I think it is annihilate you. He was annihilate. And then the Iranian president comes up and says, look what you did. And then Bibi gets up and gives a speech and half the room leaves. And then a representative from Israel's going around, taking notes and names of every dignitary, the state leaders that left the room. It's like, who are these people? They may have a pager being sent to them or something like that, like an old... Check your mail. Don't open the mail. Check your mail. Don't check your mail, that's the thing. Actually, do not check your mail, makes you have three layers of people that are checking your mail, you never know what's gonna happen there.

• 5:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And then Xi Jinping comes with his, uh, what is that cartoon character, that Winnie the Pooh? And the president flies over a, what was it? The bomber. The bomber, and it's so flipping loud, and he just, you know, looking at him to see if he reacted, he stayed, Winnie stays like this. And then he goes to places, he's showing the auto pan, he's just tapping it in a bag, you gotta see how he does it, he's just a very interesting guy. Uh, and recent Horowitz launches AI school as college alternative, it'd be interesting to see what that is, and I think we are going in that direction. Some of the people that are homeschooling would actually probably entertain it. Boston Globe does their best story in a long time that gets them thousands of new subscribers, you know what this?

• 6:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not gonna believe this story, but this is the part about capitalism that you gotta love. So a lesbian communist bar opens up, and I'm not kidding with you.

• 6:25Tom Ellsworth?

  It's totally a comedy.

• 6:26Patrick Bet-David?

  A lesbian communist bar opens up.

• 6:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Those are my favorite bars.

• 6:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Those are the favorite bars, but these are like legit communist lesbians that can bench two plays, not the kind of lesbians you like in Miami. So these are different kind of lesbians that are like combine, they can really do 25, 12 times, you know? Hey, don't count me out. Anyways, so the owner, this lady, who is, poor lady is trying to make the money so she can pay the rent and everything, says, listen, can we, once a week, allow people to come without the mask, one day a week, so we can make some profit? Then the lesbian communists that were coming to this bar get pissed off, saying you're such a racist, I don't know what they start calling it. How dare you. How dare you? 2026, we still need our masks. This is why, no matter what you do, if you ever start a business, you will eventually become a capitalist and the communism, socialism will come out of you, because you'll see exactly how people treat businesses.

• 7:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Best story, Boston Globe, didn't Boston Globe do that one story about Catholic stuff, the church and the movie was made, or is that? Was that Boston Globe or who was it? Yeah, they did a few stories. Hey, let's not talk about that, we're supposed to sweep that under the rug. Spotlight, spotlight. Was that a Boston Globe or who was that with? I think it was the Boston. I don't know who it was, we'll check it, we'll verify it, here's another good story for you, you ready? Spotlight, yeah, but what was, it is the Boston Globe, you're right. Boston Globe, yeah. All right, so it's been a long time since that story, this one got them subscribers. A grandmother who is worried for her grandson, doesn't have any money, phenomenal Future Looks Bright story that Vincent O'Shaughnessy found. This wonderful, I think she's in her 80s. 88?

• 7:54Patrick Bet-David?

  80-something years old, Chris, she decides to learn how to Minecraft, records it on YouTube, doesn't ask anybody for money, but people learn what she's doing it for, raises $50,000? Yep. What an awesome story, right? What a great story. 81 years old, Pat. 81 years old, I'd love to get her information, if somebody knows, I'd love to call her and make it even a little bit better. Tom, this morning's got some bad news for all of you, if you were thinking about buying a house, guess what, stories came out? And it's real, because when, you know, Tom is, uh, is not happy about it. I'm moving in with Tom. Is mortgage rates hit the highest levels in 20 months, even if you got a credit score of 750 right now, if you wanted to go buy a 30-year loan right now, it's 7.5% today, 7.5%.

• 8:39Patrick Bet-David?

  This morning, my dad's like, did you hear how many homes are on sale right now, the record-breaking most ever? I said, what is it, Dad? He gives me a number, I Google it, it's 4.3 million homes right now for sale in America. The highest we ever hit was 5 million, and that was in 2008. And of the 4.3 million homes in America per capita, guess what's number one state with the most homes for sale? The one you're in right now, state of Florida, number one. Really? Carolina was three, something like that. But Pat, it wouldn't be a good time to buy because, I mean, the rates... The only reason why it would be a good time to buy is because the seller is desperate, and he is going from selling to renting. Got you. Because a seller to go buy another house, it doesn't make any sense right now, you're leaving the 3.8, you're leaving a 4.7,

• 9:20Patrick Bet-David?

  to go to 7.5, your mortgage is gonna be $2,000 more, it doesn't make mathematical sense. It's only a great time if you're buying from a seller that's about to go to rent. Got you. That's the time, or they're going through a life-changing event, death in the family, kids moved out, divorce, something like that, that's when it makes sense, because the motivation needs to be there. Uh, next story, Starbucks is shutting down 250 stores and Tom thinks that's a great idea with what Brian Nicolle is doing, I kind of want to hear what he has to say about it. Social Security, a Michigan Democrat says, people that are getting their benefits 100% at 67 years old, I want to bring you down to 60 years old. And I'm sure a lot of Boomers are gonna be celebrating with this, I think it's a horrible idea, and I think we need to go the other way.

• 10:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'll tell you why I think we need to go the other way, and you can fight me on it and, you know, call me out and say all the other stuff, but we'll have the friendly conversation here together in a minute. There's one story that's going viral that Connor brought it up to us, and I think he was trying to hint why he always brings iced coffee into meetings, and he doesn't want me to get upset at him. Because I'm always like, why does Connor always have iced coffee? This is, this is so brilliant, this historian kid. So there's a story that's going viral with New York Times, Chris, that employers are furious with Gen Z showing up to a job interview and putting in iced coffee right there, because that's disrespectful. Massive argument that you should never show up with an iced coffee to a job interview. We'll talk about that, we'll talk about that.

• 10:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, listen, Vinnie showed up with a shot of tequila, it was like, at least... What's wrong? You know, at least it was a different thing. It's for my tooth thing. It was for two, Middle Easterns, when you have that, it's a different... So that leads me to the next story, alcohol consumption is down. Alcohol consumption is down, last night, we were at Casa Di Angelo and joined ourselves, I think about, all of us were hammered, we were, it was very bad, Chris remembers this.

• 11:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Hammered on a pachino.

• 11:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom was telling his dirty jokes. Chris had... If you can get Tom, and you find Tom after three drinks, you're gonna have the time of your life. Oh, man. But you gotta get him there, he's hard, he's tough, you gotta like, find a way to be creative about it. And last but not least, this 83-year-old Christian grandmother in Canada goes in, and I don't know what happens, they euthanize her.

• 11:29Speaker 03

  She doesn't, she's, but like, she has like mental, like, not mental problems, but she's older and she has cancer, and they basically talked her into like, no, no, you should just end your life and they euthanize her.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  She showed up solo?

• 11:39Speaker 03

  And the family was, no, the family was like, yeah, but think about it, if you're a little bit off, and they're like, no, no, you should do it, even though she was like, I don't want to do it, she was crying to her family.

• 11:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That's Canada for you.

• 11:47Speaker 03

  Canada, there you go, buddy.

• 11:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, you know what they would have done, you know what we've done in the US, we would have said, go play some Minecraft and start a YouTube channel.

• 11:54Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 11:55Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the difference.

• 11:55Speaker 03

  Damn right.

• 11:56Speaker 04

  It's a real American out there.

• 11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, seriously, that's what a real American.

• 11:58Speaker 03

  Start a business, grandma.

• 11:59Patrick Bet-David?

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• 15:45Patrick Bet-David?

  the side of the country's richest people per Bloomberg. HMRC is using its own record, public information, and data shared by foreign governments to identify billionaires with UK tax exposure and map their connections to businesses, trusts, and other entities. The UK Tax Authority has assigned a personal compliance manager to every billionaire, with its reach as it escalates enforcement on offshore structure and wealth planning zero-edge verdict. Britain is about to discover the part of the Laffer curve where the billionaire taxpayer simply gets on a plane and goes somewhere else. The policy is test case for wealth taxation in practice. Tighter compliance may extract more from the ultra bridge, or it may shrink the base, its taxing, and both outcomes will arrive with receipts. By the

• 16:30Patrick Bet-David?

  way, watch how quickly California, Kamala Harris, AOC, Newsom, Mamdani, some of these blue states, watch how quickly they're gonna look at this and they're gonna say, this is a brilliant idea to go after the billionaires. Tom, how do you process this story yourself?

• 16:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I love it. So, last year, there were 156 billionaires in Britain. What was the net gain year over year? One, one, and supposedly...

• 17:01Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean, one?

• 17:02Speaker 03

  Only one, one new billionaire.

• 17:03Tom Ellsworth?

  They're now 157 billionaires after one year. Supposedly, four were created and three departed. Because, do you know what the UK doesn't have that Canada has?

• 17:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What's that?

• 17:14Tom Ellsworth?

  An angry departure tax. We've talked to people that are members of the boardroom...

• 17:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Britain doesn't have an exit tax?

• 17:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct. And in Canada, they call it the angry departure tax, and we've talked to a wonderful Canadian people that are members of the boardroom, who have talked about the difficulty, they had to give like 17 to 20% of wealth to Canada to leave. In other words, to turn in your passport in Canada, Vinny, and permanently live in Florida, and we've talked to guys at the boardroom doing this. So, back there, there is no such thing in the UK. And would you like to know the number one place that they go? The number one destination is places like Monaco. They go to Monaco, and then they go to Dubai. And they just recreate residency, but the number one of all, I give you number two and number

• 18:03Tom Ellsworth?

  three, is the UAE specifically. And they just go get themselves a place there, and they reestablish residency. And so, what do I think? I think if you wanted to push all these people out, where you have no departure tax, and you already are not really making more billionaires, Pat, because there's this, there's this migration out happening right now, so you're gonna take 156 unemployed people, assign them each a billionaire, and then they're gonna be unemployed again, because these people are gonna leave. All they're gonna do is reestablish residency in Monaco or Dubai. That's what the data

• 18:41Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the likelihood that Britain's gonna have an exit tax? Have they ever talked about it?

• 18:45Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know.

• 18:46Patrick Bet-David?

  One of the scariest taxes a country could have, by the way.

• 18:47Tom Ellsworth?

  There's probably 156 people pissed off, I just brought it up.

• 18:50Speaker 04

  How does that work, an exit tax? Once you leave, they can retroactively go after your money for how many years?

• 18:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, listen, there's, there's clients we have at the cigar lounge, at the boardroom, which by the way, if you're local and you want to learn more about it, go to the boardroom cigar lounge for Lauderdale. Can you pull up the website too, please? Guys are sitting there, they have 10, 20 million dollars still sitting in Canada, because they don't want to, they want to find a different way to move the money out. So, you may have to pay a percentage. Can you pull up what the exit tax is in Canada? But it's like, literally, in California, they saw what was going in Canada, they said, we're gonna be doing this. And when they started flirting on this, in California, that's when I left. Literally, it was one of the main things.

• 19:27Tom Ellsworth?

  You saw it coming.

• 19:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, are you kidding me?

• 19:29Tom Ellsworth?

  That's when you wrote your love letter?

• 19:30Patrick Bet-David?

  For every $1 million you make in California, you pay roughly $133,000 that you could keep. 10 million, 1.33. 100 million, 13.33 million dollars. They keep it. Let alone, they're sitting there saying, what if we get a exit tax? So, the one on Canada's calculator based on deems the position of your global assets, the rate you must declare any growth capital gains your assets made while you lived in Canada, usually 50% of those capital gains are added to your annual normal income for the fiscal year, and then taxed at your standard personal marginal tax exemption. Many major assets are exempt from this exit tax, including your Canadian real estate, RR, SP, TFSA, and standard personal items

• 20:14Patrick Bet-David?

  like your car or clothing. The $25,000, if the fair market value of all the properties you own upon leaving exceeds $25,000, you are required legally to report them to the CRA using the form or face penalties. So, if Britain doesn't have that, it's a very dumb sequencing, Tom. If you're gonna do it, you first put the exit tax, then you assign the IRS agents to each billionaire, right? At least if you're gonna think like a liberal socialist, communist, do it better than this. Come on, Britain socialists and communists, do better. Chris, do you have any thoughts on this story?

• 20:45Speaker 12

  On the Canadian tax, or...

• 20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Under the UK, and the fact that they're assigning an IRS agent per billionaire to collect more money from them.

• 20:53Speaker 12

  Obviously, it's a terrible idea. Like Tom said, I mean, they're just gonna leave. I mean, take a zoo.

• 20:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would you stay? Think about it. Why would you stay?

• 20:59Speaker 03

  It's almost like they're saying, listen, take your money, take your business, take everything and get out of here. Why would you do that? I wouldn't. Absolutely not.

• 21:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have any unique thoughts on this?

• 21:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I do. Well, you know, we always say, all my billionaire friends out there moving to Miami, you should. You know, they say, follow the money. The UK has literally, basically said, let's follow the money, literally, let's get a enforcement, government enforcement, surveillance state like you're in China, and you get your very own personal money bodyguard that comes and basically checks your bank account every single day. So, billionaires, there's two different options here. Billionaires are the most taxed, but they're also the most mobile people on earth. You could just move. And we've seen this before. It's not like you said this, I, I, I think, um, a few months ago. It's not like the old days where, you know, you have a factory and you can tax the factory.

• 21:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Wealth is in stocks, it's in crypto, it's in different assets. You can move anywhere.

• 21:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who got me thinking about that? CZ, the billionaire, 110 billion dollar guy.

• 21:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at him.

• 21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  He said he has 5,000 employees in 40-plus countries. I said, where's your headquarters? We don't have one.

• 22:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 22:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So what do you mean you don't have one? He says, we don't have a headquarters. So where do you put your employees in? Wherever's the lowest regulation, lowest tax.

• 22:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Wherever they want to go.

• 22:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Wherever you want to go. So this is a, this is the worst time to tax the wealth idea by these folks. Like literally, it's one of the dumbest ideas to do it in 2026. This would have been a great socialist communist idea to come up with 40 years ago. 30 years ago, not in 2026. Double dumb.

• 22:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Not on a global marketplace. And then can I just add to this, guys? Can you pull up that chart that I sent you? So there's going to be people out there, they're going to be like, well, I'm not a billionaire. What would I care? Well, I would assume that you want to become a millionaire. Why are you working? Why are you saving while you're investing? Look at this chart right here, the millionaire migration. What country have the most millionaires left? It's not even close. It's the UK. There you see at the bottom of the list, they're gone. And where are they moving? Like Tom said, they're moving to the UAE and they're moving to the USA. So whether it's billionaires or millionaires, uh, you can just flee.

• 23:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, this is a very important chart. If you can zoom into the bottom. The net, meaning net loss of millionaires. Is there a way to zoom in or you can't? It's okay. The lowest one is UK. You don't see it. I, I, I need glasses to see what the minus is. What does a minus say?

• 23:17Speaker 03

  Minus 7.8.

• 23:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, what does it say right there? 16,000. 16,000 citizens or millionaires. 500 millionaires in 2025.

• 23:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Just in one year.

• 23:28Patrick Bet-David?

  In 2025 and who gained it? UAE gained 9,800, US gained 7,500, Italy gained 3,600, Switzerland 3,000, Saudi 2,400, Singapore 1,600. Who's losing it? Sweden, Philippines, uh, Turkey, Taiwan, Ireland, Argentina, Pakistan, Egypt, Norway, Mexico, Colombia, Iran, Nigeria, Indonesia, South Africa, Vietnam. Israel is losing millionaires. Uh-oh, they're losing their millionaires. Germany, Spain, France, Brazil, Russia. Russia's losing its millionaire. Makes sense. South Korea, India and China. China's losing, but China can't afford to lose some of their millionaires.

• 24:04Tom Ellsworth?

  The biggest thing here is the UK is, is running laps around the world.

• 24:08Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not like it's that big of a country.

• 24:10Speaker 03

  Yeah. And Pat, you know, you know, I'm curious too. You know that agent that's assigned to you?

• 24:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 24:14Speaker 03

  Do you think that there's some incentives to him? Like, hey, listen, the more you find out and the more you get from this billionaire, the bigger the bonus that you're going to get. Are they, are they playing that game with this person?

• 24:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a brilliant idea. That's what a socialist communist.

• 24:26Speaker 03

  Oh my God. Like, hey, listen, get as much as you can from him. Right, Adam? Give me, give me another 3% off of him. I'm going to give you a raise of $50,000. That means that agent is going to be in the bushes outside of your house like this.

• 24:37Tom Ellsworth?

  You just described the practice of the US IRS audit.

• 24:41Speaker 03

  That's it, right, Tom?

• 24:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Keep looking until you find something.

• 24:43Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 24:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember when Biden, I think, uh, hired like 80,000 IRS agents? Didn't he do something like that?

• 24:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 24:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that correct on that number?

• 24:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think so.

• 24:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Some crazy amount of number that, that.

• 24:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's about, that's about right, what the number is.

• 24:55Speaker 12

  I got a question though. Do you think that these billionaires, like, you really think that they're trying to cheat taxes and stuff like that? I just don't believe it. I just don't think that's going to solve anything.

• 25:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think billionaires cheat on taxes?

• 25:06Speaker 12

  I'm just, I don't, I mean, sure, some do, but I just doubt it. I mean, why? You know, I mean, as far as like, what are they looking for?

• 25:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I think what they're gonna do is, I don't know if the, the, the word is cheat. Some people would say they do, and don't get me wrong, there's probably people that cheat on their taxes. But I think what they do is, they go in higher and spend more money to bring in the right accountants that knows exactly what write-offs they could get. And like, in, in that conversation with, uh, in the debate with Hillary and Trump, where it says, you know, he didn't pay zero in taxes and da, da, da, da, da.

• 25:38Speaker 03

  Changed the rules.

• 25:39Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, you know what?

• 25:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 25:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I use the same exact tax code that your billionaire donors use, and if you don't like it, you've been there for 36 years. Why don't you do something about it?

• 25:47Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  But you haven't, so don't bullshit me about what, you know, tax exemptions I'm using. You could do something about it. You haven't. So that's actually a very good question you're asking. But let's go to the next one. Next topic I want to go to is this, uh, the story with Patrick Clancy, which I'm going to first go to Sunny Hostin, then I'm going to go to the Patrick Clancy story to just kind of give you an idea. So Sunny Hostin thought it was a good idea to share and brag about a time what she did to prevent the Butcher of Thompson. If you can play, folks, you're, I just want you to think as if this is your friend, your sister, your mom, your coworker. What would you advise her? Would you say, share this story with others? Or would you say, be quiet? At least, think about the story. Go for it.

• 26:32Speaker 13

  The insanity defense has been around in Massachusetts for 182 years, so I think it's well-established. And I thought absolutely that she was not criminally responsible, uh, by reason of, of insanity. And the reason I felt that, I, I, I feel so strongly about this holdout juror is because I was a holdout juror in a case, in the Daniel Rakowitz case. I don't know if people remember it, the Butcher of Tompkins Square Park. It was in 199.

• 26:56Speaker 14

  The guy who ate the victims?

• 26:57Speaker 13

  Yes.

• 26:58Speaker 14

  You were on that jury?

• 26:59Speaker 13

  You're going to need to explain more. Yes, I was. Were you a lawyer already? It was before I went to law school. Oh, because I would have never put you on this. And I, when I brought it up in the hot, when I brought it up at the Hot Topics meeting, I don't think everyone believed me. And then my producer looked it up and I'm in the New York Times. And apparently several jurors questioned afterwards, said one holdout juror was principally responsible. A son Cian. Preventing them from returning a guilty verdict. That was me. And it was because I saw clearly that he was psychotic. Of course. He was in a psychosis. He did not mean to kill her. And once he killed her, he panicked, he, he chopped up her body parts, yes, boiled her body parts, tried to commit the perfect crime.

• 27:44Speaker 13

  And then he got this guy off?

• 27:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah. You got him off.

• 27:48Speaker 13

  But, but he fed, he, that's how much I believe in the insanity defense. And he fed her body parts to the unhoused. Excuse me, can I move over?

• 27:56Patrick Bet-David?

  The unhoused.

• 27:58Speaker 13

  But, but all that being said, it was so clear to me in the jury room, and we were sequestered for nine days. One juror threw a chair at me. They were so angry with me, but one by one, I picked them off and said, what about this? What about that? And we ended up, all 12 unanimously, voting that he was not criminally responsible by the reason of insanity. And, but he is still in a mental institution being treated.

• 28:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you, I don't even know what to say to this right now, guys. I mean, look, you, you, first, how crazy is that? Our, our team in the back is losing their mind.

• 28:33Speaker 03

  So you know, so you know who cares? Monica Burley, the girl that was murdered in 1989? What do you think her family feels or thinks about, about you? Pat, this guy beat his girlfriend to death, chopped her up, boiled her head, boiled the rest of her body parts, got rid of some of the remains in different locations, and then he cooked some of the flesh into a soup and fed it to the homeless in Tompkins Square Park. Like that, it's unbelievable that she's like, yeah, he did all that stuff, but she's proud of this, okay? I, I don't care what you say. That type of like person does not need to be alive. I'm sorry. That's why we have the freaking death penalty. And just look at the, guys, look, I'm not surprised.

• 29:17Speaker 03

  Look at what Sunny Hostin has proved to us over the years, okay? Her husband, remember he was named in a massive civil insurance lawsuit? Uh, her son was just like arrested the other, what, a month ago, two months ago for trespassing? She, she was over there, she's always playing the victim. She's like slaves and this. And remember on that show, Finding Your Roots, she learned that her family owned slaves? So it's like, Pat, I'm tired of, besides the view, just Sunny Hostin, every single time, this, this walking, talking hypocrite contradicting. That's all she does. She's a walking, talking contradiction of, of, of everything. And I don't know if she, was she a prosecutor, Tom, or defense lawyer? I would hate to have her as my freaking, as my lead counsel. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable.

• 29:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I'm, I'm shocked. First of all, I am, um, I'm embarrassed for them that on The View, they're talking about this level of tragedy. And if they really care about this guy and, and his insanity and being behind bars, why aren't they talking about the cost of the taxpayer? And they're sitting there, you know, are they thinking about the friends or the family that may have known this victim?

• 30:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Nope.

• 30:24Tom Ellsworth?

  That are watching The View kind of be giddily talking about it? And oh my gosh, it was such a crazy day. I was this holdout juror. It is a privilege to be on jury duty in America. It is your obligation. You registered to vote, you're registering to be part of a jury, to be part of a, a group of peers, to let our system do what it's supposed to do. And you don't come back later laughing about the fact that, you know, oh, you know, it was such a crazy day for this guy. I don't find it funny. I don't find it humorous, and I find it really, really venal that, that she sits there and, and speaks like this, as if it's some, you know, just, you know, speeding ticket,

• 31:09Tom Ellsworth?

  you know, cop's word against the motorist's word, you know? This is a horrifying, horrifying crime that they just, that they made light of in this here. And I just don't get it. I don't get it. How can your heart be so deep that you can just conduct yourself like this? All this for, for, for viewable TV? I, I guess so.

• 31:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, the, the story, when you look at this, her, this was in 1991 newspaper covered this, because a lot of people are saying, was she the one that caused it? Hostin's legal name at the time was Assunzione Cummings, okay? So the New York Times article, contemporary 1991 newspaper cover, uh, coverage quotes Assunzione Cummings as juror in the case. So she was a part of it. Uh, and then when she says, I was the holdout juror in the Daniel Rakowitz case. That's when things get complicated. Contemporary news, New York Daily News and Associated Press reported on this February of 1991, described a principal holdout as an unemployed man.

• 32:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Juror Valerie Holmes reportedly said that the man enjoyed receiving the $15 a day jury payment and was willing to deliberate, to keep deliberating because he kept making the $15 a day that was being paid at that time. And then another report news they apparently said that there were two holdout jurors, so she could have been one of the two. I just think it's a weird story to brag about the fact that this guy went out there and did this and you're bragging that, oh, he didn't know what he was doing. He was mentally ill. He was man. This is where we're living today.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's who she is. And Pat, you remember the clip that I told you before we came in here? In 2014, I guess she was on Anderson Cooper and she, she left, she admits she left her 14 month old in the car because she was defending another guy Tom that left his baby in the car for seven hours strapped to a car scene he died. Could you play this, uh, play this clip?

• 33:00Speaker 15

  Tragic. What do you make of this? I mean, clearly there seems to be details. We don't yet know more about this guy's history, about his attitudes. There's a lot we still don't know.

• 33:10Speaker 16

  I, I think that's right. I mean, certainly it's a tragedy and we can all agree about that, but we don't know some facts. I mean, I want to know, um, you know, was there a history of abuse? Was there some sort of bitter divorce or custody battle going on? What was his typical schedule? So I, I think there are just a lot of unanswered questions.

• 33:31Speaker 15

  But you say, I mean, I read something that you wrote, I think on CNN.com about that you have done this. I mean, that a lot of parents do this accidentally.

• 33:38Speaker 16

  And this story became very personal for me because I did write an opinion piece on CNN. I left my daughter when she was 14 months old in the back of our car.

• 33:47Speaker 15

  Great.

• 33:48Speaker 16

  And I was with my husband and it was a hot July day and literally Anderson, my husband left her in the car. I left her in the car. We went to get a shopping cart. We took the shopping cart, passed the car, went into Home Depot. I went into the garden center and it was only after about five minutes that my husband came to me and said, oh my God, we left Paloma in the car.

• 34:09Speaker 15

  And she was fine, obviously.

• 34:10Speaker 16

  And she was fine, but I will tell you, I'm still ashamed about it. I'm embarrassed. I'm horrified and I can see how someone could do this. Had you asked me this, these questions prior to when, when, when I did this, this horrible thing.

• 34:24Speaker 03

  And guess what? And guess what? God forbid your kid died, you should be in jail. You shouldn't have somebody trying to be like, well, where were, where was their mind at? Was she worried about something else? No, you made, you did the crime, you have to do the time. So this, I love this because this just shows a history of this nonsense and it doesn't surprise me that she'd be lying about being a, a holdout juror. She's, she's, she's one of the worst that we have out there. And I, I love what Tom said about the, the being ashamed, that the view should be ashamed of themselves, Pat, that they have someone like this on the show.

• 34:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 34:54Speaker 03

  Seriously.

• 34:55Speaker 04

  Look, I, I don't, I, I literally never watch The View. So the only time I see clips of The View is when we show them on this show, but I'll tell you this, uh, I'm, I love women. Uh, I'm starting to really worry about women in society today, especially in America, because we talk about men needing better role models. Who are the female role models these days? Like where are they getting their news? Where are they getting, women getting their information? And again, love you women out there, but you're getting your, your, your news and your information. The most watched shows are The View, Rachel Maddow, Call Her Daddy. You're listening to Candace Owens, you're listening to Scooby Doo murder mysteries and you're watching Dahmer on Netflix. And this is where you're getting your information, ladies, liberal ladies.

• 35:38Speaker 04

  I think women need to take a step back and say, wow, what am I actually consuming in my life? Because if every day you're waking up and watching The View or you're watching Candace or you're watching Call Her Daddy, tell me how your life is improving from this. You're polluting your brain and next thing you know, you're defending Lindsay Clancy publicly, basically saying that she's a great person. This is the modern woman.

• 36:01Speaker 03

  But I would, I would clarify that it's the majority, not the majority, but a lot of liberal women. They have nothing to do. They sit home all day and they have to come up with stuff to be like, they latch on to all these movements.

• 36:13Speaker 04

  I, I think you're right. I wish it was just liberal women. I think it's just women in general.

• 36:17Speaker 03

  Well, I, I would say a lot of these liberal women, cause well, who do you think the view, if they, if the view's camera turned around and showed the audience, what kind of people you think are in there?

• 36:26Speaker 04

  For sure, it's mostly liberal women.

• 36:27Speaker 03

  It isn't Republican women, cause either at home raising the family or they're at work. That's what the hell is going on.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  Slippery slope.

• 36:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Crazy story. Chris, do you have any thoughts on this?

• 36:36Speaker 12

  No, not really. I mean.

• 36:38Speaker 04

  This guy's got six kids.

• 36:39Speaker 12

  Yeah, I mean it's.

• 36:40Speaker 04

  You know, what does your wife think about the story?

• 36:41Speaker 12

  She, she, well, obviously totally disagrees with, um, you know, her being insane. I mean, it's, I mean, obviously she's insane. I mean, she killed three of her kids. I mean, I, as far as the insanity goes for any case for me, I think, I think it should not even be a part of it really. I mean, obviously you're crazy and if you're going to kill somebody, kill kids, I mean, you know, leaving the kid in the car, I mean, I mean, I've, I've seen videos of people maybe of, you know, I mean, maybe it could happen, but I just, I just, I can't see how. I mean, you know, I, I saw a video one time of a grandmother and she actually, um, was watching one of her, she had two grandkids, she was watching one. He drowned on her watch. He was like two years old. Um, and then a year later, the daughter, you know, had her watching another one of her

• 37:25Speaker 12

  kids, left her in the car. Killed two of her grandkids. Craziest thing ever, but like I said, the older lady, I mean, I think she just forgot, you know, but it, so what? You know, life has consequences, so.

• 37:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's rough.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  I saw, I saw that.

• 37:38Speaker 12

  Have you seen that?

• 37:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, I saw it. It was crazy, man. I heard the 911 call. That's what I heard and they were like, what?

• 37:44Patrick Bet-David?

  One day Jennifer calls me and she's crying. I said, what's going on babe? She was at the funeral of a mother who left the kitchen door open and their toddler, whatever, you know, 16 months, 17 months went out, fell in the pool. She goes out five minutes, dead.

• 38:09Speaker 04

  Oh my God. The toddler.

• 38:11Patrick Bet-David?

  The toddler. At the funeral, they get a divorce by the way. Dylan was feeling so bad, cause I think he had a sister and every day he would walk her from class to class, cause he felt so bad for what was going on and he would pray for them every.

• 38:28Speaker 04

  Dylan, your Dylan?

• 38:29Patrick Bet-David?

  My Dylan.

• 38:30Speaker 04

  So this is like a real story.

• 38:31Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a real story.

• 38:32Speaker 04

  Oh my God.

• 38:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Jen calls me, she says, babe, I can't be at this funeral. I hear the mother in the background. This is like eight years ago. This is eight years ago, this, we were in Dallas, so it's gotta be six years ago. I hear the mother in the back, seven years ago, mother in the background screaming of pain because she took the blame. Like it's my fault. I did this, right? I mean, these are some painful, like we have a few, few friends that moved here and I, I said to them, I said, whatever you do, whatever you do, you know, the doors being left open, all that other stuff, whatever you do, teach your young kids how to swim very, very, very early. There's a program called ISR or whatever it is, and that's what we did.

• 39:16Patrick Bet-David?

  It was they would throw the kid in the pool and a video got 110 million views and we started taking every one of the kids, every one of our kids learned how to swim between 15 to 20 months old.

• 39:24Speaker 04

  Oh really? That young?

• 39:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Every one of our kids.

• 39:27Speaker 04

  Brooklyn's a tat.

• 39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Every one of our kids.

• 39:29Speaker 04

  They teach them to turn over?

• 39:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, this is not something that's at all to take lightly. As a parent, you have to take this here. I've heard people cry. There's different types of crying. That was the most difficult cry for me to listen to, cause you felt the guilt that I could have prevented this. Oh my God. So when you're telling me that thing, you know, I mean, this is going, and by the way, the, the, you guys have the clip with Patrick Clancy who is, uh, doing an interview with 60 Minutes and in the interview, they're asking him, hey, do you have any dreams? Do you have any dreams? And, and look at the way he's answering this. Um, and if he still sees, you know, the kids in the dreams, just watch the way he's speaking about the story he's telling. Go for it.

• 40:16Speaker 15

  You dream about them?

• 40:18Speaker 17

  Yeah. All the time.

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  Tell me a good dream.

• 40:22Speaker 17

  I remember early on having a dream, maybe six months or a year after, and I'm in the kitchen at the house and Coral walks in and I just look at her and I, it was like, I basically just said, where have you been? And she comes up to me and gives me a big hug.

• 40:46Speaker 17

  Those dreams are so real. Lucid. It's, it's like I'm lucid in those dreams.

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• 42:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, you know, this is a guy, his profile that looks like a guy that doesn't even want to be on camera.

• 42:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't talk to me.

• 43:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Not, not in a bad way. Like, did I just want to live my regular life? Word just came out, they announced, obviously, this was many, many years ago when this incident happened. He met a girl a little over a year later. They ended up getting married, and they're expecting a baby. They just announced they're expecting a baby. And he specifically said he looks forward to telling their child about Cora Dawson and Callan, his three children who died in 2023, referring to them as the child's older brothers and sisters. My goodness.

• 43:37Speaker 04

  That's the first time I've heard him speak. Have you heard him speak before?

• 43:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, in the, in the 60 Minutes interview, he, there's a lot more stuff to it, what he says, but you, you, and now he's the villain. They make him the villain, and she's the innocent one that didn't do. This is, this is a little too much.

• 43:52Speaker 04

  How much money did they raise for her? I think over a million dollars.

• 43:55Speaker 03

  I don't know, I don't know if it was a million, but it was a lot. But what, what drives me crazy is the people out there that are like, no, he, like, he had to, he had to have something to do with it, because look how he's acting afterwards. Okay, and mind you, I don't have any kids. I don't, I, I don't know, I can't even imagine the loss. That's the, the, the number one, that the worst emotion that a human being could go through is losing your child. That's statistically, that's what, what, what they say, right? How is he supposed to act? Is he supposed to be in a basement in the dark and wanting to kill himself? By the way, this happened years ago, right? He has to, the last thing I think this guy wants to do is, is sit there all day and think about it, sit in that house, do this. Of course he's going to sell the house. Of course he's going to try to move on, because you have to think of other things.

• 44:39Speaker 03

  But again, Adam, you talked about those freaking liberal women that are sitting home that are like, nope, the pink hair, pink shirts wearing out there? No, she's the victim. Not the babies, not the babies, not the husband that came home screaming, screaming, and having to be in the hospital and being there with the eight-month-old that's freaking dying in his freaking arms. He's not the victim. It's her. It's Lindsay, who's never, didn't want to show her face to the camera, and in the courtroom, what she does, you saw, I saw evil in her. Okay, and I love that you said that, bro. I love that you said that, Chris, about they're crazy. Of course you're crazy. To make him leave, to kill all of them, and then try to jump out the window and now all these other women are trying to copycat? Give me a freaking break, bro. Prime me a river.

• 45:21Speaker 04

  What's this right here? This Musgrove Family Fund? Is this the GoFundMe for Lindsay Clancy? Is that what this is, this guy?

• 45:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Apparently, the, um, 1.245 million, and originally, the goal was a million, and they just raised it to

• 45:36Speaker 04

  The three.

• 45:37Patrick Bet-David?

  3 million as the goal. I don't know if she's going to raise it. And Patrick Clancy, within a week of the incident that happened in 2023, 15,000 donors helped raise a million dollars for Patrick Clancy. So Patrick got it within a week when it happened for, both of them raised over a million dollars. It, it, it's a, you know, and, and I even think about now, the conversation with the new wife. He married a lady who's a doctor, the new wife, Dr. Rachel Dennis. What do you think that conversation sounds like?

• 46:06Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 46:08Speaker 04

  Can't even imagine what they're talking about.

• 46:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine the 101 questions to ask before you get engaged. What are you asking her?

• 46:13Speaker 04

  Hey, would you do me a favor? And when we have a kid, um, not hurt them?

• 46:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm actually being, that's, I'm being, here, here, and, and you know, sometimes in life, certain events happen that changes, you know, like, when you hire somebody that comes and takes advantage of you, and it's a bad employee, what do you do? You always add a new question that you're asking in interviews. Okay? Or you had a bad employer. Okay, you always ask an additional question when you have a, you know, when you go into the company, certain things that's important to you, right? Okay. This event is such a big event in this lifetime right now while young, single men are going through it. This event added one question every man now asks a girl before they give him the ring.

• 46:53Speaker 04

  Yeah. What, what do you think about this case?

• 46:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That's all it is. Not even who do you side with? What do you think about the case?

• 46:59Speaker 04

  What do you think?

• 47:00Patrick Bet-David?

  That's all you got to ask, because say you're dating a girl, and you ask her the question, she doesn't give you an answer like you. You're going to come, let's just say we're friends, and you come and say, Pat, hey, this girl I talked to, she said this, what do you think? I'm like, oof, Vinnie, you're serious? Yeah, what do you think about it, dude? I don't think I can do it. Have you told her yet? No, I think I'm telling, I'm breaking it off this week.

• 47:19Patrick Bet-David?

  This became one of those moments where every single man who is single about to propose must ask this question before you get married, because when you're, imagine you're at work, and your girl said, I think she's innocent. And she's with the kids at home. What are you thinking about all day?

• 47:35Speaker 04

  Yeah. Oh, man. No way.

• 47:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, yeah, I'm, I'm going to be taking care of him. And you know what? I'm really having some thoughts. What do you mean you're having some thoughts? This has messed some people up. This has messed some people up. So anyways, our prayers are with Patrick Clancy and, um,

• 47:55Patrick Bet-David?

  man, this is, this is just a very, yeah, I mean, it's not.

• 47:57Speaker 04

  I've got a question for you, Pat, though. Like, you say it on video, like, what's the reasoning to even do the interview? I mean, why even go out there?

• 48:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Him?

• 48:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, like, I mean, just.

• 48:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You're asking, you're asking a fair question.

• 48:08Speaker 04

  I don't think I would ever want to do that. Is it from, I'm, I mean, this, what's the, I mean, maybe to help other people, but man.

• 48:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that's what people say. Like, when I think about why people talk, I think what the reporter says is, look, I know this is the last thing you want to do, but you're actually being an example for others that are going through this, because they want to hear your side of the story. Like, when I, when we were selling life insurance, and we would have death benefits that would happen that somebody's relative would die, they never wanted to go on stage and tell the story. But I would always say is, listen, if, if you don't, you don't have to, I totally get it. If you do, it just shows how powerful it is, what we do for families. This is a life-changing industry. Most people don't think about it. I've been in a lot of different rooms where you're delivering checks to families who bought a life insurance policy, and it allows them to mourn, it gives them dignity

• 48:59Patrick Bet-David?

  to not have to make an emotional decision. And I saw sometime where a man was like, no, I don't need it. And then the woman was forced to marry a regular guy and, you know, abusive man that to be with, because he was a jerk, but he left him no money, and she was the homemaker. So to me, I think that's the story that a reporter would say to get the individual to want to talk. Because you can obviously tell he doesn't want to do this.

• 49:20Speaker 04

  No, definitely.

• 49:20Patrick Bet-David?

  What fame does he get? Does he go out and say, follow me on Instagram for more? No. No. He's not doing this.

• 49:25Speaker 04

  I mean, you think they're paying him? I'm just curious. Do they pay these guys? They just do it just to help?

• 49:29Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I think, I think at this point, it's just, uh, uh, no, I don't think he's getting.

• 49:32Speaker 04

  By the way, I've heard many of those types of discussions after the fact, where, and they said, it's the best thing that's ever happened to me. Thank God my husband, or thank God so-and-so left me this life insurance policy. But if I had to put myself, myself in Patrick Clancy's shoes,

• 49:46Tom Ellsworth?

  If you don't tell your story, the world or the people that hate you are gonna tell your story. So you have to speak, as much as it's painful and as much as it's something you don't generally wanna be doing on camera, you have to tell your side of the story. By the way, same for the juror, the Michael guy, the, the black guy, the conservative guy, he's starting to speak now because the world's been telling his story. He goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

• 50:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Has he been speaking though?

• 50:09Tom Ellsworth?

  He's been speaking a little bit. It's coming out.

• 50:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I've not seen, I've seen his brother speak on his behalf of another representative.

• 50:14Speaker 03

  And to answer you Chris, maybe because I, I think I read that he's a Catholic, he's, he's a Christian. Maybe he's, wants other people to see that even going through this unimaginable tragedy from his wife, that he still hasn't lost, lost faith in God, and that if somebody else is going through it, you're gonna go through it.

• 50:31Patrick Bet-David?

  But you can tell he doesn't wanna.

• 50:32Speaker 03

  He's broken. That's, like, he looks like exactly what happened to him, and he's just maybe, maybe just to tell people like, listen, I went through it, I still haven't lost faith, and I'm still here.

• 50:43Tom Ellsworth?

  And imagine how much he wants to be a father, to go through that, to have your three kids killed, to say, you know what? I wanna be a father that bad, that I wanna try again.

• 50:51Speaker 03

  Oh man.

• 50:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. Okay, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Next story I wanna get to is, Tom this morning says, 30-year mortgage rates are at 7.5, even if you got a 750 score. I said, what'd you say, Tom? He says, yes, that's right. 30-year mortgage rates right now are 7.5, even if you got a 750 credit score in some markets. And so, Tom, I'll read this story and I'll come to you. Mortgage rates at highest in 20 months. Okay, 20 months. The average rate on 30-year fix right now is 7.03, the highest in 20 months, and up more than a percentage point since the Iran war began late February. Freddie Mac shows data rates last top 7% in January 2025. Each percentage point rise adds thousands, two-tens of thousands of dollars in annual borrowing costs, depending on the home price.

• 51:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And the climb tracks the surge in oil prices and treasury yields with a key treasury rate hitting its highest level in years and amid inflation fears. The timing is brutal for the administration. Housing affordability was already the country's sore spot, and the war-driven rate spike is pricing out exactly the first-time home buyers. Both parties claim to champion with the midterms weeks away, the 7% print turns the affordability crisis from a talking point into a monthly payment. Tom?

• 52:07Tom Ellsworth?

  So the 30-year mortgage, whenever you see, you know, the 10-year, and you see them talking about the 10-year, and let me look at the gap here, the gap right now on the 10-year treasury, take two percentage points. So Vinnie, whenever you see a headline that says 10-year treasury suddenly at 5 and 1/4, just say to yourself, wow, that means mortgages are at least 7 and 1/4.

• 52:30Speaker 03

  Oh damn.

• 52:30Tom Ellsworth?

  You just, you add two points to it. Yep, they're, they're lined up together. And so, right now, um, there, it's, it's even more difficult. What you have, um, uh, we also mentioned that Florida had the most number of homes for sale. Well, one of the reasons the most number of homes for sale is the people willing to sell them, have them on the market, but people can't afford to buy them. And also, Florida also still has a bit of an insurance crisis on homeowners' insurance. So headline, Florida's got more homes for sale than anybody else. Well, you have to go look around Orlando and Lakeland, and they overbuilt that area, and with people conserving on spending and going to Disneyland, Disney World,

• 53:12Tom Ellsworth?

  some of the, the jobs that were in Orlando a little bit constrained, and so you don't have as many houses for sale. But right now, Pat, it, this is tough times.

• 53:21Patrick Bet-David?

  We have 4.3 million homes right now on the market, okay? 2008, when the crash hit, and we all saw the video of what was going on in Riverside County with 64% of homes were, you know, uh, empty, and it was just a very, we saw the movie, and what was the movie called? The Big Short, right?

• 53:39Tom Ellsworth?

  The Big Short, yeah.

• 53:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And of the 4.3 million per capita, the state that has the most homes right now for sale is the state of Florida. I think Carolina's top five, but, uh, Florida's one of them. I think Florida has one of the biggest plus-minuses on value going up the last five, five and a half years since COVID. And so.

• 53:56Tom Ellsworth?

  But there's three Floridas. Panhandle, there's for sale. Central Florida, there's a boatload for sale in Orlando. And then you get down to Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade County, known as the Gold Coast, and the for-sale rates are consistent where they were before COVID. So it's really a tale of three cities in Florida, but there's a ton for sale.

• 54:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you think Orlando's getting hit the most?

• 54:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Orlando be, they, they reacted and they gave fast permits, and they hyperreacted to what they believed was going to be, um, job growth up there. And there has not met as much job growth up there. And the people moving to Florida are moving down to Palm Beach, Broward, and, um, South Florida. The people moving with jobs. The people without jobs tend right now go to more to Tampa. Tampa, insurance is crazy because the insurance rates went up after those two hurricanes over the last four years. So, Central Florida, they overbuilt, the jobs didn't show up there. So you're getting discounts in Central Florida, a lot for sale, if you can afford the 7 and 1/2%. And South Florida, prices are down a little bit, but not bad.

• 54:58Tom Ellsworth?

  In Miami right now, there are 12-month supply of condos for sale today, 12.7. If you're gonna go down and buy a condo at today's sale rates, there's 12.7 months of supply.

• 55:10Patrick Bet-David?

  For, for where? This is Miami?

• 55:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, Dade County condos.

• 55:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me what that means, 12.7 months?

• 55:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Means if you took the number of condos sold this month, it would take 12 months like that to sell everyone that's for sale right now.

• 55:23Patrick Bet-David?

  How do they calculate that?

• 55:25Tom Ellsworth?

  They, they, they basically look at the number that are being sold right now per month, and they look at the total that are for sale, and they divide it. So if there's a, if there's 1,200 for sale and you're selling 100 a month, that means it'll take 12 months to sell all that.

• 55:39Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not a bad time to buy a penthouse in Miami. You could get a good discount on a penthouse in Miami.

• 55:44Tom Ellsworth?

  As long as you're in one of the better buildings that's been inspected and your HOA isn't way up because they're anticipating maintenance.

• 55:50Patrick Bet-David?

  As long as the balconies are locked and all, you know, that's what I'm saying. I said, the risk is gonna be high. Adam, what are you up with this?

• 55:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, look, buying a house right now isn't that expensive. The money that you need for a mortgage is expensive. There's a difference. So I have a little checklist that I've used before, and, and I recommend that most, especially young men out there who are considering buying a house, factor this in. Do you want a house, or do you need a house? I speak to a lot of guys out there, like, I really want a house, I really wanna buy a house. It's like, yeah, I know that you want that, but is that actually something you need, and can you actually even afford that? So what I recommend, and I, I would highly recommend this, is rent, save that money, save the difference, invest over the next three to five years, so your wealth can accumulate, so you can save up for a down payment.

• 56:40Tom Ellsworth?

  And when rates go down, or there's a buyer's market at that point, then you can buy. I always just say this, unless you absolutely need to buy the house, just rent, save the difference, and circle back. That's my advice.

• 56:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, if, if you do the math, per percent, Tom, per percent of rates going up on a million dollars is what? Per percent, a thousand dollars, give or take?

• 57:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Something like that.

• 57:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, a month. So per percent, if you take give or take, it could be 1,200 dollars, but everything included. So, you know, if you're, if you're looking at a million-dollar home at 3%, you're looking at 3,000 dollars a month. 4% 4K a month, 5% 5K a month, 6% 6K a month, 7% 7K a month, 7 and 1/2% for a million dollars? 7,500 dollars a month.

• 57:23Tom Ellsworth?

  That's crazy.

• 57:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Just so you know.

• 57:25Speaker 12

  We still got taxes and everything too, on top of that, right?

• 57:27Tom Ellsworth?

  And maintenance and insurance.

• 57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And the 7,500 dollars a month is after-tax money, which pre-tax money to have 7,500 dollars, you gotta divide times .3. So if you take 7,500 dollars a month right now, divided by 3 is what? .3.

• 57:41Patrick Bet-David?

  To make, I, no, no, no, it's, it's divided. So it ends up becoming, so you're looking at around 10,000 dollars a month you need to make. Let's just say 30% taxes you're paying, 10,800 dollars a month you need to make, to have the net 7,500 dollars to make that mortgage payment. So it is a weird time. I will tell you, if I was a buyer right now, I would use that as leverage, and I would ask better questions from the realtor. So I would ask the realtor, my realtor, I would say, hey, can you ask the sellers how motivated are they? And are the, are the sellers moving to another house? Are they going to rent? What is the life change? Like, when I walked into the house we bought, I know this is gonna sound weird. The first thing I did is I went into the master bedroom because they were still, they're still.

• 58:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Living there.

• 58:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Living there, and I went to the closets. And one side of the closet, all the, you know, women's shoes were there. The other side of the closet, there was no men's shoes.

• 58:32Speaker 04

  Oh, gotcha.

• 58:33Patrick Bet-David?

  See, I'm just saying, this was a house I'm looking at in Dallas, and I'm like, hey, if one side of the closet, it's only women's shoes, all the stuff with the guy wasn't there, and it's an open closet, you kind of have an idea, this was a lot. So that is a, and as much as it's, because we, you know, you can be on both sides as you're going through it. As a seller, you don't want the buyer to know that that's what's going on. So the buyer today has to have a better lens to look at. If you got a better lens, I actually think there's opportunities today. I actually think there's opportunities today. Because unfortunately, what happens when there's financial stress?

• 59:05Speaker 04

  People sell.

• 59:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do they? What happens when people have financial stress?

• 59:09Speaker 04

  They can't afford it.

• 59:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Life-changing events happen. Typically, what gets affected first? Their marriage. And if the marriage gets affected, what is the wife asking for? Money. And where's most of people's money tied to?

• 59:19Speaker 04

  In their house.

• 59:20Patrick Bet-David?

  In their house. So guess what he has to do? And if he sells it, guess where he has to move to? He has to move to an apartment. Because the 80% of people, when they're going through this, they don't have the livelihood to go just buy another house. At that time, all they're thinking about is, I just need an apartment, I want to get this thing over with. That's the mentality. I want to get this thing over with, and I want to get, it's like the scene from Wedding Crashers. Listen, we want to throw some miles our way. But unfortunately, when it happens, the person that's going through it, the main thing on their mind, guess what they're saying? The line is, I just want this to be over with.

• 59:56Tom Ellsworth?

  They can just break even, you know, a lot of times.

• 59:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. So in those moments, unfortunately, people, like, there's a lot of people that are buyers of companies, guess what kind of companies they buy?

• 1:00:05Speaker 04

  Distressed.

• 1:00:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Distressed, distressed companies. That's their specialty. They come in and they build it up. That's a massive business model.

• 1:00:11Speaker 04

  It's like, I have a buddy of mine who's very, very big in real estate in Miami, and he goes, I don't buy real estate, I rob real estate. All I do is look for clothes.

• 1:00:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, he's a criminal, that's a different story.

• 1:00:20Speaker 03

  Not a different person.

• 1:00:20Patrick Bet-David?

  He, he's gonna go hang some time with...

• 1:00:23Speaker 04

  He gets, he gets distressed assets, and he, he sells them, but you actually motivated me. I'm gonna go looking in houses as a, as a prospective buyer, I'm gonna go into the closet.

• 1:00:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You will never look at the house the same way again.

• 1:00:35Speaker 04

  And I'm gonna go into the guy's closet, and I'm gonna go get some new clothes out there. Maybe that's a nice little come up.

• 1:00:39Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but you, but you'll see when you go in, unfortunately, the seller's job is not to tell you anything.

• 1:00:46Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:00:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And the buyer's job is to not say any motivation to them that you like them. When, like, when you go to the house, and if I take my kids, oh my God, I love this house, can we move here? I'm like, I just told you, be quiet, right? We have to buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. You don't take your kids, we want to look at one of the houses.

• 1:01:03Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. And Pat's like, Pat's like, yo, Chuck, like, buddy, I walked by something like the theater, it was amazing. And the guy's like, huh? And I'm like this. And I just walked out. I just walked out.

• 1:01:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who else doesn't know how to do that? Melba doesn't know how to do that.

• 1:01:17Speaker 03

  I'm like, I ain't daddy, look at this.

• 1:01:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Daddy, look.

• 1:01:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And kids don't know how to do it.

• 1:01:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Daddy, daddy, this is great.

• 1:01:22Speaker 03

  It's just gonna be my room.

• 1:01:23Tom Ellsworth?

  You could be looking at a high-end house in a nice community, you got the poker face, and then you look in the backyard, and two of your three kids are in the swimming pool, fully clothed.

• 1:01:33Speaker 04

  Been there.

• 1:01:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Never happens. They seem to like the backyard, sir.

• 1:01:38Patrick Bet-David?

  We looked at a house in Stonebriar, which was in Frisco, where, you know, a guy named Donnie Nelson was telling me, hey, you may want to come and look at this place.

• 1:01:45Speaker 04

  The coach?

• 1:01:45Patrick Bet-David?

  The, the son of the coach. And so we go look at this community, and we, we look at one house that had a lazy liver in the backyard.

• 1:01:53Speaker 04

  A lazy liver?

• 1:01:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Lazy river. So I'm sitting there, I like lazy rivers as well. But so I go, I'm Middle Eastern, but so we go there, and I tell Tico and Dylan in the car, hey, listen to me, guys, I'm telling you right now, you cannot jump this, this house has a lazy river, I want to be able to trust that I'm bringing you here, you guys can't jump in. No, Dad, why would we jump in? I said, great, because if you jump in, there's pow pow. I'm not gonna jump in.

• 1:02:19Speaker 04

  And we know we don't want no pow pows.

• 1:02:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So we go, and they see the lazy river, and all you see is their eyes get this big, and they're looking at me, I'm like, Dylan, Tico, I told you, and you know who starts it? You know who gets the other one to do it? I bet you can't guess which one gets the other one to do it.

• 1:02:35Speaker 03

  Tico told, talked Dylan into it.

• 1:02:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, here's, so here's what happened. So then I'm like, guys, just go over there to shoot a basketball, go over there, you know, look at some of those trees.

• 1:02:42Speaker 04

  You'll take one, shoot, know who.

• 1:02:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So we go inside the house, and I'm on the second floor master bedroom, they're showing me the, what do you call it? The, the balcony. I'm outside, all I see is Tico and Dylan and the lazy river going around, and we didn't bring towels.

• 1:02:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:02:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're gonna go into the escalator. I'm like, these freaking kids, I'm like, what are you doing, Dad? This is great. This is awesome. Like, these kids, man, so I don't know where they get it from, but they're a little rebellious. All right, let's go to the next story.

• 1:03:09Speaker 04

  Can't even imagine where they get that from.

• 1:03:10Patrick Bet-David?

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• 1:06:43Patrick Bet-David?

  at everybody while he's saying this, and he's calling everybody out. Everybody out, go for it.

• 1:06:49Speaker 23

  ... decision to make. Will a deal be made with Iran that lets them rebuild and create a far greater country than it ever was before? Maybe one of the greatest in the Middle East, or even the world? Or do I annihilate the Islamic Republic and do it quickly, never giving them a chance to kill and destroy people and countries again? Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival?

• 1:07:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Camera guy needs to get a promotion.

• 1:07:23Speaker 23

  Or future greatness or generations? But I believe we'll make a deal right after the election, because it doesn't make sense for them not to. They're waiting to see how I do in the midterm election. What they don't realize is that I'm not running. I did that already, and won in a landslide. We won in a giant landslide, and I'll be here for two and a half years. The Republican Party is running, and I'll be helping them, but I am not running. I gave absolutely no credence and will not give credence to the election when it comes to Iran. It doesn't even enter my mind.

• 1:08:06Speaker 23

  The only thing that does is that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon.

• 1:08:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is the speech he's giving now.

• 1:08:13Speaker 23

  The cowards and traitors, thank you.

• 1:08:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at the clapping, by the way. So they're agreeing with what he has to say, the cowards and traitors. Then, Pezeshkian comes up, and he's giving the speech, and here's what Pezeshkian has to say, I don't know if you have the Pezeshkian clip or not, uh, when he has to state, this is what he has to say, go for it.

• 1:08:30Speaker 24

  To present to you yesterday, the United States President described us as terrorists. We have been the victims of terrorism.

• 1:08:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:45Speaker 24

  I come from an Iran in which our esteemed Supreme Leader was assassinated without any legal framework or reason. I come from an Iran where in truth

• 1:09:04Speaker 24

  they bombed a school.

• 1:09:09Speaker 24

  You see these children?

• 1:09:14Speaker 24

  These children perished under bombs.

• 1:09:19Speaker 24

  With weapons used by the United States and Israel. They were innocent. Had committed no crimes.

• 1:09:32Speaker 24

  La Merde. One of the small.

• 1:09:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's the speech that he gives.

• 1:09:37Speaker 04

  He conveniently left out the fact that his regime killed tens of thousands of their own people. Let's just just brush that aside and talk about what Trump did. Go ahead.

• 1:09:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:47Speaker 04

  He's the terrorist.

• 1:09:48Patrick Bet-David?

  The reality of it is, the allies that they have, Marco Rubio, I sent a clip yesterday about what Marco Rubio said. And Besen, there's two clips. I don't know if we have it or not. I don't know if you guys got it or not. I don't bring it up this morning. So if you got it, you pull it up. Great. If you don't, I get it as well. Where he says, look, here's what's going on. And this, this is why I like Marco Rubio. He gives a very complicated story in a way that in a way that you need to, is chewable, but it's tough to, matter of fact, I want you to watch this one here. Besen.

• 1:10:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this one, what Besen says. Do you have the Besen one? This is the Besen one, if you have that. Play this one first, okay? Besen explains what they're doing to Iran. A lot of people are not getting on the back end how challenging it is. And I'm going to come to you guys for you guys to share your thoughts. And I'm going to go to the next clip. On what happened, because the BB one is very interesting. But if you can pull up this clip, this is Besen. On the types of pain they're bringing to Iran right now. Okay, if you have it, pull it up. I just sent it to you guys. It should be fairly easy. There you go. Watch this. Watch what he says here. Go ahead.

• 1:10:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you start from the beginning and turn on the audio so we can listen to, because guys, you're on it with the mouse, if you can just.

• 1:11:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go back, go for it.

• 1:11:07Speaker 25

  Just so you know, we know they are wearing the British Virgin Islands, your accounts are at these trust companies. We know the hundred million dollar houses you have around the world. And we are going to freeze those. We are going to, our partners, we are going to close all of that down. So we are going to go after the regime's legitimate assets that they have stolen from the Iranian people. And those can go back to the Iranian people, or they can go to the victims of terror. Like the families of the soldiers who are on USS Cole, were in the Lebanese barracks.

• 1:11:43Speaker 25

  But we will stop this regime's ability to have a nuclear weapon, to have their current highly enriched uranium, to project terrorist power through their proxy networks. And to terrorize the Gulf. So after 47 years, it is over.

• 1:12:05Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you can pause right there. There are two people in the administration that you know when they talk, they don't play games. One is Besen. He will punch you, even if you're the richest man in the world. He doesn't hold back.

• 1:12:18Speaker 04

  Allegedly, he will.

• 1:12:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he will. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like, if he is that guy. And number two is Marco Rubio. They're literal people. They're not thinking about campaign and presidential 2028 and let me go lose some weight and all this. I'm not saying anybody else. I'm just saying they're thinking about what in general, like, it's not bad to lose. I've lost 30 pounds this year.

• 1:12:36Speaker 04

  You look great.

• 1:12:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I've lost, I've literally lost. I went from 259 to 229.

• 1:12:40Speaker 04

  He's a biker. Go ahead.

• 1:12:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And I buy every morning. I'm, you want to find me? I'm biking. You know, so when they're talking about this and the president's giving that message to Iran, Peseshkian is sitting there. One, how close you think it is? And do you think anybody's listened to Peseshkian and saying, oh, poor guy, look what happened to him? Do you think the world is looking at Peseshkian and sympathizing with what happened to their people?

• 1:13:02Speaker 04

  The world does not, but you have people like Christine Lagarde in the EU, which oddly, strangely, you know, anti-capitalist and also, you know, somehow finds victimhood in the, in those that would, you know, commit violence. So I think there's a few. But what the world heard, and Trump was very careful in the speech. He wanted to make sure that they heard this is going to happen after the election because these guys are trying to wait me out. I don't care. We'll, we'll get the deal done and you guys are going to wait until after the election? That's them. So he's sort of putting the world on notice, saying,

• 1:13:45Speaker 04

  hey, we would deal with these guys, but they won't deal. So number one. And number two, when Peskin comes up there, it's like, wait a minute. Okay, a school was bombed. And it looks like these innocent kids died. That's a tragedy. But that's a tragedy of war. And it's a tragedy of war that started not in February with the first bombs, but that started with these proxy networks and the undermining and the creating of war by Iran. So it may have been the latest round that started in February, but you know what? I'll tell you, this started before that. And I think that there

• 1:14:29Speaker 04

  that when he stands there, people say, that is a tragedy of war that shouldn't have happened. That's terrible, on one hand. On the other hand, you sit there and say, this thing didn't start in February, dude. You guys started it way back and you've been doing it for 47 years.

• 1:14:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't act innocent. Don't act innocent with what you're doing. You killed all, your own, you killed your own people. So think about it. If you want to make the claim that America killed other people, which by the way, what they did is that property that they were in allegedly was a former military property. So on the maps, when they were given the intel, it wasn't updated. So they used a military property to make it a school. And they hid it and used it. So some people are even saying they knew this could happen, but they needed a story to get the world to sympathize with.

• 1:15:09Speaker 04

  They've hidden behind their own citizens for decades.

• 1:15:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's a, it's a tragic, tragic story. But that's the enemy doing it.

• 1:15:19Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:15:20Patrick Bet-David?

  When you kill your own people, then what is that? Adam, your thoughts on the Trump speech.

• 1:15:24Speaker 04

  And you turn off the internet so your own people can't communicate to the media and the press.

• 1:15:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Noble community.

• 1:15:31Speaker 04

  Correct. You shut the internet off and start slaughtering the dissidents.

• 1:15:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 1:15:35Speaker 04

  Look, I think the overarching story is that the UN has become a complete joke. You know, anyone that's been following the UN, you know, appreciates at least what the UN was supposed to be doing. You know, I think it was formed in 1945, right during the end of the World War II. And it was to, number one, prevent another world war from happening. But, but also to just bring in people to talk around a big conference table to avoid any issues. Now, in 2026, you have dictators, autocrats, Supreme Leaders, thugs coming in, standing at the podium and lecturing democracies about how they should be operating.

• 1:16:17Speaker 04

  So the UN has completely lost its way. It's become a banana republic at this point. Where you have actual thugs who have never, who have faced zero election, basically control their people. There's no freedom of press. There's no freedom of human rights. And they come in and say, this is how you need to act, everybody. This is how you need to operate, everybody. It's like, didn't you just kill your own people, buddy? Haven't you been jailing any journalist in your country that, that is a dissident? Hey Putin, you know, somehow people are conveniently thrown out windows, just magically. But you want to lecture democracies and free people how to operate. You know, one of the things that I've learned since, since being here, I never really understood this term, this globalist term.

• 1:17:02Speaker 04

  Oh, he's a globalist. He's a globalist. At this point, I don't want America abiding by anybody's rules other than America. So another thing that I want to bring up. Trump basically said a couple of major things. He said, as far as Iran, he said the following, I have no interest in, in leaving the dangers that grow from Iran to grow and fester for another day. I do not believe in letting problems fester. They only become harder to solve. So while others have talked, I have acted. That's Trump's words. So basically saying, I'm not going to wait for the next administration to deal with Iran. I'm going to go ahead and take the lead here.

• 1:17:43Speaker 04

  He said, I believe in no global government at all. I think the ICC, the International Criminal Court is a rogue institution.

• 1:17:51Patrick Bet-David?

  In the biggest way.

• 1:17:52Speaker 04

  And it should be, everyone should resign. Basically, he came up there and gave a speech and said, you suck, you suck, you suck. You're cool. Let's go. Let's get out of here. And then you have Peseshkian come up there and basically try to flip the entire narrative and pretend that he's the good guy.

• 1:18:09Tom Ellsworth?

  You left out skimming foreign aid dollars that these thugs also do.

• 1:18:13Speaker 04

  And the last thing I'll say, buddy, Ron, and I'll just say this. I've never met or seen another. Country organization that pretends to almost negotiate and maybe we'll do a meeting and eventually maybe we'll have a discussion. There's no deal happening with these people in Iran.

• 1:18:32Patrick Bet-David?

  There's plenty of them out there. They're not.

• 1:18:33Speaker 04

  How do you mean?

• 1:18:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You've never met another country that says they want to negotiate, but they don't get anything done. It's all talk.

• 1:18:39Speaker 04

  This is the number, this is the leader.

• 1:18:40Patrick Bet-David?

  No, there is plenty of countries that do that. That's the part of the game. They just wait to, if I'm the enemy, guess what I say? These are Americans. You got four more years. Stop. You're not that tough. You got two more. I'll outlive you. You're gonna be gone. I got control. You have what I don't have. I got 20 years to go make change. You only got four years. And if you're lucky, you got two years because your midterms, you don't have as long as you got. American system, you don't have as long as you think you have.

• 1:19:04Speaker 04

  I fully agree with you. The only thing that I'll say is the difference is that everyone else acts in their own rational best interest, whether it's China, whether it's Russia.

• 1:19:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That part I agree.

• 1:19:15Speaker 04

  These people are such ideologues that there's no negotiating. They're waiting for the world to end for their 12th Shia Imam to show up.

• 1:19:22Speaker 03

  And listen, I'm anti-war. I hate war. I was in the United States Air Force. 9/11 happened. They lied to us. Weapons of mass destruction. People went over there. My brother was deployed. I hate it. And I wish to God that we lived in a perfect world where none of the war happens. But guess what? It sucks and it does happen. And what drives me crazy, Pat, is when it comes to Iran, guys, a lot of people, just whatever your algorithm is and you get upset about, you haven't lived it. Okay? People, they don't, they've never been there. They don't even know people that are there, let alone find it on a map.

• 1:19:59Speaker 03

  You haven't experienced it. We're sitting in a room with a guy who's lived it as a child and saw people die and saw the regime, saw the IRGC, and had to flee with his freaking father and go to a freaking refugee camp with his family. You guys, you haven't lived it. My parents left, okay? We've understood it. We've experienced it. So the people that haven't, give me a break. And you guys, when you talk about killing your own people, it didn't just start there. Protesters, wrestlers, professional wrestlers that open their mouth, they execute them. Do you understand what I'm talking about? Like, we're over here talking about, you know, Patrick Clancy, Lindsay Clancy's wife and how she should die and all that stuff. These people are just opening their mouths and gay people out there that are supporting all these Islamic Islam regimes,

• 1:20:43Speaker 03

  take your ass there and see what happens to you. They will kill your ass, okay? And again, anti-war, but say what you want. There's footage of Donald Trump talking trash about China and Iran, Iran way before he tried to run for president. And I was getting a haircut the other day, Pat. I'm talking to my barber, Josh, and he's like, you know what, Vinny? I don't give a damn. Dude from New York, from Brooklyn, he's like, you know what? Trump is the only one. Brother, there's people that were sitting, ready to get a haircut, talking, like, going against us. And he was like, Trump is the only one that actually did something. Everybody's talking trash and kicking the can down the road. These people say, guys, death to America. So imagine, we're sitting here right now, Chris. Town's over, people miles away.

• 1:21:27Speaker 03

  Their attitude is death to you. Die. I hope all your women, children, everybody dies. How long do you let that slide? How, because it's not just, you know, BS, you know, table talk. Ah, they're just talking stuff in like little water cooler talk. They want us dead, guys. Do you understand that? They want you dead and it sucks and I wish it didn't happen, but in a world where people want you dead, okay, and evil is out there, you gotta fight fire with fire. I'm sorry. It's the truth, Pat.

• 1:21:54Speaker 04

  It's, don't apologize, Vinny.

• 1:21:55Speaker 03

  Well, I'm just saying, I wish it was all loves and they want to kill us. You understand what I'm saying? Death to America. What does that mean to you, Pat?

• 1:22:03Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, let me tell you, the best breakdown I heard of this was from John Morgan, who said it on the podcast a few months back. He's not a Trump guy. He's a liberal. He's best friends with Bill Clinton. This is not a guy that's a Trump guy. He says, for a guy like him, Morgan saying this, I'm paraphrasing what he said, to decide to, this is not the most popular thing to do, but to do it because he's making a decision long-term to protect America, you gotta applaud him for it. Look what he's done. Do you have the Marco Rubio clip, by the way? Do you have that Marco Rubio clip if you want to play that real quick? This is a guy that, go for it.

• 1:22:43Speaker 26

  I think the Iranians are under this illusion that Democrats are gonna win in November and the president will no longer be able to do things against them. I just don't think they understand our system very well. Other countries do, but they don't seem to. In our system of government, obviously Congress, the legislative branch is a very important branch of government. I served in it for 14 years, so I understand its powers, but I also understand its limitations. When it comes to the national security of our country, when it comes to the imposition of both sanctions and the use of military force, the president has extraordinary powers. Every president does. He's the commander in chief, both constitutional and otherwise, to be able to carry out those functions. So I think that the Iranians are fundamentally misreading our political system. And I think the president made it very clear yesterday.

• 1:23:23Speaker 26

  For him, the Iranian issue is not a political issue. It is the fact that for generations now, for almost 50 years, every American president, and frankly, every country in the world, for the most part, agrees that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. But ultimately, no one ever does anything about it. And he's going to do something about it. And he's doing something about it. And it comes at a price and at a cost, there's no doubt about it. But the cost of not doing something about it is substantially higher, especially for future generations.

• 1:23:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Just listen to the way how he landed that message. Listen to the way how he landed that message. That's Marco Rubio, okay? And Marco, whatever you do, 2028, you gotta be in the arena. That's all I'm saying to you. You gotta be in the arena, okay? You gotta be in the arena.

• 1:24:08Speaker 03

  And he's right. By the way, this Democratic Party thing that he's talking about, Pat, I want people to understand, this DSA movement, all these Islamists that are running for freaking Congress and running, like, I don't think I saw it. We don't have to see it because the clip is long. There's a young Iranian American in Michigan. He stands up and he's saying to Abdul Sayad's face, he's like, we're dying. They were killing us. And you know what? He, he wouldn't condemn the IRGC. And he's like, listen, I have to be careful. Careful of what? They're not, you think, well, they're gonna come after you? He wouldn't condemn them.

• 1:24:38Speaker 04

  It's almost like Abdul Al Sayed is a fan of the Ayatollah.

• 1:24:41Speaker 03

  Weird, isn't that weird?

• 1:24:42Speaker 04

  Against America.

• 1:24:43Speaker 03

  And I'm telling you.

• 1:24:44Speaker 04

  Shout out to you guys in Michigan voting for him.

• 1:24:46Speaker 03

  And those guys, those are the guys, Pat, those are the guys, he's talking about the Democratic Party. They're the, they're, they're pro them. They're pro IRGC. I'm telling you.

• 1:24:55Speaker 04

  They're pro they them.

• 1:24:55Speaker 03

  They them, she them, terrorism.

• 1:24:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta, you gotta study the history of Ford being the reason why the first mosque was built in America.

• 1:25:04Speaker 03

  For the vehicle, the car company.

• 1:25:06Patrick Bet-David?

  The founder of.

• 1:25:08Speaker 03

  So can you explain that?

• 1:25:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. I was saying, I just told my grandpa this morning about that. Yeah, we had that last time. Yeah, yeah. So here's what happened. So if you go back, Ford hated, he had issues with Jews. And people, when they sit there and say, why did he have issues with Jews? First of all, Dodge Brothers, the Dodge, this is Dodge's first logo.

• 1:25:27Speaker 03

  Get out. Are you serious?

• 1:25:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You guys ought to know this. So this is Dodge's first logo. I mean, do you see how obvious it is?

• 1:25:33Speaker 04

  That can be a little.

• 1:25:34Patrick Bet-David?

  How many anti-Semites are in their car?

• 1:25:36Speaker 04

  A little controversial.

• 1:25:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm in a Dodge car, brother! So the Dodge.

• 1:25:40Speaker 03

  Pull over!

• 1:25:40Patrick Bet-David?

  The Dodge Brothers are direct competitors and he is furious with them. Then the union is a problem. And so he's not happy with the union, what's going on. So he starts realizing he can recruit people from Yemen, from Lebanon, and from Syria. And the people that came from there, they did not want to be part of union. So he was saving money on union by bringing people from Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon. Eventually, I think in 1912 or something like that, he brings the first Imam. When he brings him to Michigan, thinking, these are great workers, man. I'm not paying any union. They're great. All he's thinking about is the fact that he's not gonna pay any union, you know, they're not gonna get bigger.

• 1:26:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, the first Imam comes and they build the first, I think, mosque in Michigan. It's in Highland, if I'm not mistaken. And so Henry Ford is the reason why Michigan became what it became today. And from there on, because remember, as Armenians, we would move where? To Glendale, California.

• 1:26:40Speaker 03

  Damn right.

• 1:26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Why? Because many, many years ago, a very influential Armenian moved to Glendale and everybody would say, where did John go? He went to Glendale. Menkellatan Glendale. Menkellatan Glendale. So then Armenians, if you go, Assyrians, Torlock, Chicago.

• 1:26:53Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:26:54Patrick Bet-David?

  If you look at Jews, if you look at Italians, and so you go because an influential, so thank you, Henry Ford, for doing what you did to.

• 1:27:03Speaker 03

  Thanks, Henry.

• 1:27:04Patrick Bet-David?

  The state of Michigan. He caused this. And his charity that he put money into to help a bunch of people out, eventually he gave the board up to others. The board flipped against him. And guess what things the board of Ford gives money to right now, nowadays? If you went and looked at what things they give money to right now, you wouldn't believe it. So everything he did was positive? He was thinking it was positive? Am I doing it wrong?

• 1:27:26Speaker 03

  There, there, there. Got it.

• 1:27:27Speaker 04

  You almost got that. He's built Ford tough.

• 1:27:30Speaker 03

  Well, so, but I have a Ford, Pat. So because of the.

• 1:27:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I have a Ford too. I love Ford. I'm a.

• 1:27:35Speaker 03

  I love it too. He has a tattoo on it.

• 1:27:37Patrick Bet-David?

  But he actually does. Chris actually does have a tattoo. Yesterday at dinner, we're sitting, we're like, what is this guy doing? He takes his entire.

• 1:27:43Speaker 03

  Shirt off. Girls are going crazy.

• 1:27:44Patrick Bet-David?

  At Casa DiAngelo, we're like, you're a fan, put your shirt on.

• 1:27:47Speaker 04

  They had to shut down the restaurant.

• 1:27:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam couldn't see the Ford tattoo, but it is what it is. All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get into is Bibi gets up, gives a message.

• 1:27:57Patrick Bet-David?

  After him walks out, that's not the main highlight of the story. Okay, you have this clip. After Bibi walks out, after Bibi gives a speech and just tries, he tries to call everybody out. Okay. This is what's one of his workers did. No, you have to show the walkout first, the right sequence, guys. Have to show the walkout of people walking out when he got up on stage and he spoke. So when they, when he's up, he's giving his message, saying all this stuff. And he says, one by one by one, all these people are walking out and they're clapping and they're clapping. So he's kind of doing his thing. And then all of a sudden, while that's going on, this guy walks in and one by one. Do you guys have the clip or no? It's all over the place, guys. Yeah, there you go. Watch this.

• 1:28:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Damn.

• 1:28:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Audio? Yeah. They're all walking out after Bibi hit stage.

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• 1:30:59Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage would you say that is? 70%?

• 1:31:02Speaker 03

  70 to 75.

• 1:31:06Speaker 03

  It's like stand-up comedians was bombing and everybody's, no pun intended, but you know what I mean?

• 1:31:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So everybody's walking out. Now, watch this. Now watch what's one of his representatives does. That's the one I'm really interested in.

• 1:31:18Speaker 03

  This is scary. No, this is scary.

• 1:31:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this. Like the people that are in trouble. Who's present? Get their names. Who walked out?

• 1:31:27Speaker 03

  You're getting a pager. It's your homework. You're gonna get a pager.

• 1:31:31Speaker 04

  You've got a tunnel under your house.

• 1:31:34Speaker 03

  Good.

• 1:31:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think he's actually doing? Do you actually think he's getting the names of people that walked out?

• 1:31:42Speaker 03

  He wants to document every single person that got on, walked out. Cause you know what? What if one of them wants a favor or they need something or whatever? They're gonna say, oh, really? You walked out during the, the speech of the, of the prime minister. That's crazy. That's so, I mean.

• 1:31:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, thoughts on this?

• 1:31:55Speaker 04

  Well, I think every leader in the free world and those that are in the not so free world especially, have a naughty and nice list. They know who's with them, they know who's not with them. And they know who's with them and not with them publicly and privately. And I think this is probably nothing more than the roll call. And at some point in time, you know, you look where they're positioned, you look where they are and you forget about the technology that is there. Startup Nation, a great book about the companies that are in Israel. People are gonna need something. It's not universal. And in the Middle East, when they need things to calm down, they, they come to Israel and they work with them.

• 1:32:39Speaker 04

  So I think, you know, Israel's no saint. But I think that's a naughty and nice list. And I think they're keeping score. And there will be days when people will come and need to work with Israel on something to cooperate on broader, you know, initiatives.

• 1:32:56Patrick Bet-David?

  They'll remember.

• 1:32:56Speaker 04

  And I think they're gonna remind them.

• 1:32:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me give you the names of the countries. So seven, 77 delegations walked out. They said 77 countries, but it's delegations. So it could be combinations. So in a Middle East region, it was Palestine, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Sudan, Somalia, Djibouti, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Maldives, Brunei, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan. Those guys walked out. Now, delegations from Europe, Spain, Ireland, Slovenia, Bosnia, all walked out. But those countries, all the other guys stayed in Latin America, Caribbean, Brazil, because remember that's Lula.

• 1:33:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Chile, Colombia, Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Panama, Guyana, Belize, Cuba, Bahamas, Barbados. Those guys walked out. Africa, South Africa, Angola, Chad, Central African Republic, Republic of Congo and a few others. They walked out. Asia, North Korea walked out. Wow, very surprising. Myanmar, Tonga. And then a couple of political significant details. Pakistan reportedly walked out, but then listened from the sidelines. Bahrain and UAE remained in the chamber despite being Arab states with diplomatic relations with Israel. China also reportedly stayed. The Palestinian mission actively encouraged the coordinator walkout, asked delegations to enter the chamber,

• 1:34:22Patrick Bet-David?

  then leave collectively when Netanyahu was announced. So this was kind of planned. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:34:28Speaker 04

  Well, this is the UN for you. And I'm not gonna, I'm just gonna be very direct. This is why the, the UN is a sham organization. So, you know, in, in the UN, it's called the UNGA, the United Nations General Assembly. I'm gonna read some stats for you and I'm gonna be completely unbiased. You let me know what you think is going on here. So there, there's called condemnations where a country can basically say, oh, that country's doing bad things. That country's doing bad things, right? So, uh, here's the list right now. Israel is leading the world in UN condemnations. They have 188. This is in the last 10 years, from 2015 to 2025.

• 1:35:13Speaker 04

  188. So if you're playing a basketball game, let's just go, you know, we like playing basketball here. How many fouls you get? Israel has 188 condemnations. Second on that list is Russia with 35. Okay. So that is what, 5X? So Israel is 5X worse than Russia. Here's where it gets interesting. United States has 13. Okay, so way low. Syria, that almost a million people died in a civil war, 12. Iran, condemnations, that killed allegedly 40 to 50,000 of their own people, 11 condemnations. North Korea, arguably the worst country to live in in the world, 11 condemnations.

• 1:35:58Speaker 04

  Afghanistan, one. How many you think China condemnations have had at the UN General Assembly?

• 1:36:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero.

• 1:36:05Speaker 04

  Zero.

• 1:36:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Weird.

• 1:36:07Speaker 04

  Okay? Turkey, zero. Cuba, zero. Haiti, zero. So at some point you need to ask yourself a question. Is Israel literally the worst country in the world? The only democracy in the Middle East? Or maybe the game is a little rigged? So if it's a basketball game and it's like, so you didn't call any fouls on Draymond Green, on Bill Laimbeer, on Dennis Rodman, none of them? People who are doing obviously the worst things, but LeBron James got 188 different fouls? Something may be going on here. So to me, this is why the United Nations is a complete sham.

• 1:36:48Speaker 04

  Because if it was like, look, Iran has some, Russia has some, Cuba has some, Afghanistan has some, Israel has some. Okay, cool. It's equitable. When, when the world collectively doesn't have as many condemnations as Israel have? That's pretty much evidence that it's complete sham. What I think is funny, you look at this map, there's a few things I noticed. Everything, you draw a line, everything below.

• 1:37:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Everything above the line, like if you drew a line across the red ones, just diagonal line across there. Everything above the line knows how to run a business, but they can't dance. Everything below the line goes the other way and everything below the line in red is consuming dollars from all the ones that didn't walk out. I'm looking at down here and I'm looking at foreign aid, except the Saudis and certain things over there. Everybody that walked out is like consuming foreign aid from the ones that stayed. So it's like the ones that are walking out, it's like, leave already. You know, we're sending you dollars, we're giving you all this stuff. It's just, it's shocking to me when I look at it.

• 1:37:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Bibi in his speech also brought up, uh, he brought up Sam Piker in his speech.

• 1:37:56Speaker 03

  Did he really?

• 1:37:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he brought, he specifically mentioned him.

• 1:37:59Speaker 03

  He went after, uh, M'Nani?

• 1:38:01Patrick Bet-David?

  New York, he said a lot of different things. Yeah, he did, he did.

• 1:38:03Speaker 03

  But how much, how much of this do you think though? Cause Bibi, on and off, has run, you know, been prime minister three times. He's been in there for 19 years. Like at some point, it's like, bro, you gotta move on because you're, you're the face of everything. Ups, downs, left, right, you know, Gaza, you know, October 7th, you're the guy. I think at some point, even President Trump, after two terms, you know, you're getting to the point where people are like enough, and it's not just the world, it's Israelis are over this guy. I think Gadi Eisenkot is actually ahead right now, because October is their election and he's kind, Bibi's in second right now, and maybe, maybe they need a different person.

• 1:38:40Tom Ellsworth?

  We're gonna see. I mean, I always compare Bibi to Trump, but double it, because Trump has won two, possibly three elections. We'll see. But if the American people continue to vote for Trump, year after year after year, so be it. So this is probably gonna be the most contested election for Bibi. We'll see. The guy that is running against him, it's not like he's some, you know, innocent peace dove guy.

• 1:39:05Speaker 03

  No, of course.

• 1:39:05Tom Ellsworth?

  He's from the IDF.

• 1:39:06Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 1:39:06Tom Ellsworth?

  So the, this, the biggest difference that I just wanna say is this. Countries have elections and their democracies.

• 1:39:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:39:14Tom Ellsworth?

  And the rest of these countries have autocrats, dictators and kings telling people what to do. I'll always side with them.

• 1:39:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, let me, let me, let me read this story to you. This, this may be the hottest story right now online, and it's a very, very heated debate. And you know what it's about? Bring in iced coffee to your interview. That New York Times had to write about it, and it's gone viral, bonkers, people are arguing over it. I cannot believe, if you bring this to a job interview, you are irresponsible. I'm trying to find this story, is it on the addendum? Or is it on the, would you bring iced coffee to a job interview? The internet is divided, some Gen C job seekers say it's not a big deal, others find it, uh, as a big deal. I put page eight, do you know what page it's on? Can you guys see what page?

• 1:39:57Speaker 03

  Iced coffee?

• 1:39:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it on addendum? Okay, there it is, I found it. All right, here we go, let me read it to you.

• 1:40:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Twenty-five, sir.

• 1:40:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So Caitlyn, I won't read her last name, president of Florida recruitment agency, posted what she thought was an innocuous, uh, TikTok tip, Gen Z candidates shouldn't bring iced coffee to job interviews because it can signal the interview is just a stop on your list of errands of the day. Over two days, the videos grew 20 different legs and run off into so many different reactions. She said angry responses, strong agreements, parodies, critics also called iced coffee. Is this the video, by the way, of what she said? Okay, watch this video, what she said, if that's the video. The Times treats the debate as a generational workplace. And, uh, Rorschach tests whether professionalism is a set of universal signals or an outdated dress code

• 1:40:48Patrick Bet-David?

  enforced by people who already have jobs, that's a disposable cup, can cleave, the internet says, uh, less about coffee than about the little, the generations agree on what's showing up, prepared even looks like. Tom, do you really care if somebody comes to a job interview with iced coffee?

• 1:41:04Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I care if you show up prepared, polite, professional, presentable, ready to answer questions. Took the time to learn more about the company that, when you walked in, even made a comment to me. I've, I've looked you up, sir, this is your background, why do you, why did you come to this company? Curiosity, I love all of that. Whether you have a Starbucks cup or you have a Yeti, now, I think you'd be ridiculous. Don't bring in a great big jug that tells everybody you're on one of those gallon a day diets. But if you walk in with a, with a beverage and you sit there quietly, I have no problem with that. I'm probably gonna offer you, would you like, would you like some water or a cup of coffee before we start? Just to be polite, that's what I'm looking for. I'm not psychoanalyzing your, your beverage unless it's over the top.

• 1:41:49Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I think.

• 1:41:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, who has an opposite position for Tom's? Go ahead.

• 1:41:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, he's hired, uh, tens of thousands of more people than me. I just, for me, thank you, sir. Uh, thank you.

• 1:42:01Speaker 03

  You're done.

• 1:42:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I just think like, and this is so something not a hill I'm gonna die on, but if you're showing up for a job interview and you're, hey, what's going on, like, bro, put the coffee down, get prepared. That, a, a reasonable job opportunity might say, can I get you a water, can I get you anything? Showing up, whether it's an iced coffee, a hot coffee, a tea, a latte, whatever, it's like, how casual are you at this job interview? And then, you know, like you, you tell a story about a guy doing a job interview, he's sitting like, he's just kinda relaxed because he was confident. But if, if you're just like, a rookie showing up like that, I don't get it.

• 1:42:37Speaker 03

  I'm with Adam, you know I'm with Adam.

• 1:42:38Tom Ellsworth?

  But I do wanna give you a shout out, because not only one, but two words, you, you, you pronounce correctly. You innocuous, wow. And then you hit Rorschach, I'm impressed.

• 1:42:51Speaker 03

  Is that where your, is that where your brain's at?

• 1:42:53Tom Ellsworth?

  That's where I went.

• 1:42:54Speaker 03

  No, but you know what?

• 1:42:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Sometimes he doesn't get desalination.

• 1:42:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a perfect transition, this segment's brought to you by Hooked on Phonics. I'm working on my English.

• 1:43:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I gotta give you credit.

• 1:43:03Speaker 03

  No, but listen, I'm honestly with Adam, like, when I go to any, anything where I'm like, I think it, even if it's not an interview, you go in there to meet with somebody that's trying to bring you in, it's professional, it's really, a big ol' wet, because you know, those drinks are wet, there's stuff leaking off of it, it's sweating the whole time. Tom, come in with a burrito from Chipotle.

• 1:43:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You're saying, don't do it.

• 1:43:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm saying, don't come. I'm talking about a basic beverage, basic, I don't say, don't bring your thermos.

• 1:43:28Speaker 03

  But they're saying, but they're saying iced, they're saying an iced coffe, for everybody out there that knows, that, you know that saying?

• 1:43:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it really though?

• 1:43:35Speaker 03

  To me, it's a, Pat, iced coffees are wet and they're dripping and you're leaving water.

• 1:43:40Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, how do you feel about it if you're watching this?

• 1:43:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, iced coffee.

• 1:43:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you run a poll with iced coffee, it's just two options, like, maybe put, don't bring it.

• 1:43:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't bring it.

• 1:43:50Patrick Bet-David?

  It's okay, and then put, I don't give a shit. Yeah. Like just run the poll with those three different options.

• 1:43:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat, I can't believe Tom is the one that's basically cool with it, we're not.

• 1:43:58Speaker 03

  Why did you go in?

• 1:43:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Listen to the list I gave.

• 1:44:00Speaker 03

  Hey, you know what makes?

• 1:44:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Professional, polite, prepared, curious, engaged.

• 1:44:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, but you know what, but Tom, you're a neat freak like me, you know how much water is gonna be on your desk? Cause freaking Freddie brought in a, but why not, why not bring some chips and salsa and just start sitting there going, hey, listen, I didn't eat lunch, I know I'm very smart, but you mind if I use a napkin? I think you should just go in there, buy your.

• 1:44:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, if you said, I studied your favorite salsa and I have it here.

• 1:44:23Speaker 03

  That's a different story, can we eat this salsa or this honey, this manuka honey that you have?

• 1:44:27Tom Ellsworth?

  It's expensive honey.

• 1:44:29Speaker 03

  Right, it's a good honey.

• 1:44:30Tom Ellsworth?

  What are your thoughts, Tom?

• 1:44:31Speaker 03

  You show up, Tom got me hooked on it, manuka.

• 1:44:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you have to realize, like, we get hit up by sponsors that are like, hey, we'd like to make a custom coffee, uh, you know, product for PBD Podcasts and what's, I said, dude, you must not really know, you know, that I haven't had coffee since I was 25 years old. Yesterday I had Big Mac for the first time in 29 years.

• 1:44:51Speaker 03

  Can you, can you guys understand that?

• 1:44:52Patrick Bet-David?

  September of 2020.

• 1:44:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Please tell that story. But to be fair, tell them the, tell them the context of it.

• 1:44:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I finished bootcamp in AIT, and then after I finished bootcamp in AIT, I haven't had any fast food, any soda, any, anything. I went and ate Big Mac, I threw up, I'm like, I can't eat this stuff. Last time I had Big Mac was September of 20, uh, 2000, uh, 1997, which I finished AIT and I showed up to Fort Campbell, Kentucky. One of our clients, Mark Parrish, who runs a, uh, 22 McDonald's. He's been consulting with us for quite some time. He comes in and he says, Pat, I'm gonna be the first that's gonna bring you a Big Mac, and I joked with him. He wasn't joking, he brought me Big Mac yesterday. Play the clip here, go for it.

• 1:45:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, you, that makes me want one.

• 1:45:33Patrick Bet-David?

  September of 1997, when I graduated AIT.

• 1:45:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Skinny you look.

• 1:45:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And the only reason I'm doing this, he's a good man, Mark, he owns 22 McDonald's franchises, he's closed me on this. Here we go. One bite, everybody knows the rules.

• 1:45:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, man.

• 1:45:50Speaker 03

  Oh, you know it's so good, bro.

• 1:45:55Speaker 03

  Your body's like.

• 1:45:56Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a great sandwich. Burger.

• 1:45:59Speaker 03

  They know what they're doing.

• 1:46:02Tom Ellsworth?

  That's special sauce.

• 1:46:05Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:46:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know, it's the best part.

• 1:46:07Tom Ellsworth?

  You're supposed to do one bite.

• 1:46:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody commented on the end of it. Listen.

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• 1:48:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Please don't tell anybody. Don't share it. Watch, watch it.

• 1:48:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, keep it a secret.

• 1:48:18Speaker 03

  Leave it, leave it.

• 1:48:19Tom Ellsworth?

  So you love the taste, but it just didn't sit well with your stomach?

• 1:48:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Even last night. Even when I told you, I'm like, I'm feeling bad. So I told Carson, I'm like, hey, guys, I'm not feeling good. I'm telling Jen, I gotta go. I had to go out and bike a few miles.

• 1:48:31Speaker 03

  You think that's from the Big Mac?

• 1:48:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Obviously.

• 1:48:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, for sure. My body doesn't, doesn't know how to take it, so. But, but what story are we on right now? We're so, my.

• 1:48:39Tom Ellsworth?

  We're on the ice coffee story.

• 1:48:41Speaker 03

  And while you're doing that, while you're thinking that, I'm gonna, our audience, I'm almost positive, almost 80% is gonna say, you don't bring a sweaty cup. You know what that says to me as a person? You don't really, who gives a damn? I'm a, it's a wetty sweaty.

• 1:48:54Tom Ellsworth?

  A wetty sweaty.

• 1:48:56Speaker 03

  It actually would bother me if they came in there, like shaking it, making noises, like, come in there, do your interview, get the hell out of there.

• 1:49:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I wouldn't like, I wouldn't like the.

• 1:49:04Speaker 03

  That's the noise that it's gonna make.

• 1:49:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 1:49:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Where you at, Pat?

• 1:49:07Speaker 03

  What were you gonna say?

• 1:49:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So you have to know, what I'm trying, what I'm trying to say is, if you were in my sales office, and these guys know, the OG ones, I didn't allow coffee in my office for 10 years. I couldn't stand coffee. Because if you, stains is the main reason.

• 1:49:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:49:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys would bring coffee, they would spill it and they're stained. So I'm like, leave your coffee outside.

• 1:49:25Speaker 03

  Smart.

• 1:49:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So in our office, you would see seven cups of coffee outside, and they would all name it. You would have to go out, because I put videos. You would go outside, drink the coffee, and come back in. If you brought a coffee and had a problem with you, and my guys could tell you this, that was crystal clear, it was no with me. Now, you can say whatever you want. That's my wiring, that's who I was. Eventually, my wife, who loves coffee, and then they teamed up against me. Wasn't happy about it.

• 1:49:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, mutiny.

• 1:49:49Patrick Bet-David?

  They said, we have to figure out a way to get Pat to allow coffee. And I said, if we get an office that the floor is cement, I'm open to it. So Glendale office, you've never been to it, Tom? Did you ever get to the Glendale office?

• 1:49:59Speaker 03

  The purple cement?

• 1:50:00Patrick Bet-David?

  The purple cement. It was all cement. So then, I poured coffee on the floor. I said, now I'm okay with it. If you guys are able to place 400 insurance policies in a month, that was the number, not submitted, place. So they had to work to get a place. We hit 403. It was a celebration. I bought everybody coffee.

• 1:50:18Tom Ellsworth?

  If they're spraying coffee like it's champagne.

• 1:50:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know, everybody's, the, the.

• 1:50:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I just want a raise.

• 1:50:21Patrick Bet-David?

  The part you gotta think about is, there's levels of sensitivities with everybody that you're going to a job with. You want to be able to minimize as many things that they're gonna be thinking about you in the interview. So you're probably better off not bringing it to just not.

• 1:50:35Speaker 03

  Or bring two, one for you.

• 1:50:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Get the person to, uh, yeah, I mean.

• 1:50:38Speaker 03

  Bring two of them.

• 1:50:39Patrick Bet-David?

  If you do something like that, I like it to say, hey, you know, I'm applying for this job. I always like it when people send an email when we have a job opening, like, we got right now 35 job openings. By the way, can you go to vt.com/careers? Go to vt.com/careers. Careers? Yeah, there you go. If you go to the bottom, you'll see how many job openings we got. Go all the way to the bottom on how many job openings. People will send me an email, or they'll send me a DM, or they'll send me a message, and they'll say, hey, Pat, I'm applying for this job. I will forward that message to HR. I will forward that message to HR. So that's great, go apply for it. And typically, the people that do the AI interview there go even higher, because we get a scoring system on it on the backend. I like that part. And then after the interview, when somebody sends a message and says, hey, I really enjoyed the time with you. I'd love to be able to consider for this position.

• 1:51:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And then sometime when a guy comes to an interview, and in the conversation, something's brought up, a book is brought up, something's brought up, and you leave, your goal is to be memorable when you leave. Send me back a book. Send me back a conversation. Hey, in the conversation, we talked about this. Send me something. I just got something really nice from Daniella. Was a, sent out one of these, uh, uh, what do you call it? I don't know, these toys that the head, the biggest.

• 1:51:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Bobble heads?

• 1:51:47Speaker 03

  Bobble head.

• 1:51:48Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not bobble head, it's a different thing that kids collect. And, and it was a former employee of ours. I love Daniella. She sent me something nice. These are small little things that you ought to do, you know? Yesterday, we had one of our guys, RJ came here. We got, you know, two nice bottles of wine, because I said, hey, man, I got a lot of respect for you. I think these are small little things that you can do that people are paying attention to. But, you know, maybe there's an argument for minimize additional reasons why somebody else is gonna judge you, because everybody's being judged. We get judged all the time. You're gonna be judged. Maybe it's, it's a good idea to not bring the.

• 1:52:20Speaker 03

  What was the poll?

• 1:52:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know what the poll is. Can you send the poll? Did we get the results on the poll?

• 1:52:25Speaker 03

  Or where the results?

• 1:52:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see if they send the poll or not.

• 1:52:27Speaker 03

  Results on this ice coffee? I think we got a text.

• 1:52:29Patrick Bet-David?

  76% don't bring it.

• 1:52:31Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 1:52:32Patrick Bet-David?

  5% said bring it.

• 1:52:33Speaker 03

  You said 80.

• 1:52:34Patrick Bet-David?

  19% said they don't give a shit.

• 1:52:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Right.

• 1:52:37Speaker 03

  19 are like, Tom.

• 1:52:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I agree with that. It's probably a better idea not to bring it. But if you bring it in front of me, and if not, as you're over the top, I care about who you are and what you can do.

• 1:52:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I respect that. They converted you.

• 1:52:48Tom Ellsworth?

  But don't, don't go back on your answer, Tom.

• 1:52:50Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 1:52:50Tom Ellsworth?

  You're better than that, sir.

• 1:52:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You got converted.

• 1:52:52Tom Ellsworth?

  You're fine.

• 1:52:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I think you.

• 1:52:53Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what, Tom? I'm gonna buy you a coffee.

• 1:52:54Speaker 03

  Chris brings chain sauce to his.

• 1:52:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Podcast, uh, coffee's on me.

• 1:52:59Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, well, I think since Tom is converting to that, let me go into a story that's the best transition for this. Alcohol consumption has declined, Tom. For the first time since COVID-19. This is a CNN story, okay? Alcohol consumption has declined. And let me go to this story here with you guys. All right, so here we go. Nearly seven years after the pandemic began, alcohol use rates have finally began to drop, according to a study in the annals of internal medicine by Dr. Brian P. Lee, a hepatologist and liver transplant specialist at Keck Medicine USC. The pandemic brought a surge in drinking in 2020 that hadn't declined for two years. Lee watches waiting rooms filled with liver disease patients,

• 1:53:44Patrick Bet-David?

  even people in their 20s needing, damn, transplants from alcohol use, something he hadn't seen before the pandemic. Seeing the first decline gives you something to hope for as a doctor, but you have to be appropriately cautious too, because one change doesn't necessarily mean a sustained trend. Lee said, the study found declines in alk, in any alcohol use, including, including heavy drinking, whether it's a turning point or a blip, will make more years of data to know. Tom, will take more years of data to know. What, what do you think's going on here with alcohol? Do you think that's a real thing?

• 1:54:14Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think it's a, an expense and hospitality blip. Because right now, we see what's happening with restaurants. We see what's happening with hospitality spending on Americans' budget. And I think, rather than get gassed, they'd rather buy gasoline. And I think that's what's going on. And so I think this is a sign of people that are cutting their, um, their drinking budget. Now, among that, I do think that the generations coming up are drinking less, and that was before COVID. However, the greater everyone else, Pat, I think it's a blip for everyone else. But I think the young generations are, in fact, drinking less.

• 1:54:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're drinking nice coffee instead.

• 1:54:57Tom Ellsworth?

  No, the data shows it. Before COVID, the upcoming generations were drinking less alcohol. During COVID, everybody sat home and drank. After COVID, with affordability, you have people that are going to restaurants less, they're going out less. And what's the most expensive thing when you go to a restaurant? You know, an $8 beer standing next to a $16, you know, um, restaurant, you know, you know, chicken dinner, or whatever it is. And so what you are seeing now, the data shows that people are going out less, that restaurants are having a tough time, and therefore, alcohol consumption out is less. But the young generation, the data shows they've been drinking less since before COVID.

• 1:55:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 1:55:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think alcohol is down, but that doesn't mean that people stop doing other things that are maybe possibly bad for them. Because, you know, just like the truth campaigns, people stopped smoking cigarettes, and now everyone's vaping. So there's gonna be a replacement. So, you know, as one of the few guys that it's quote unquote, out and about, I can't tell you how many people are smoking weed, THC, CBD, gummies, cava.

• 1:56:04Speaker 04

  At the same time, there's a bigger wellness uptick that people do want to get healthier. And they realize that, look, alcohol, at a certain point in your life, are you guys good over here?

• 1:56:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, gotcha. Certain point in your life, the hangover is not worth the, uh, the fun. So.

• 1:56:21Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I see a number here. It says, uh, the most striking number is Gallup. In 2026, only 54% of US adults say they drink alcohol. Tied with 2025 for the lowest level Gallup has had in recording since, you ready? 1939. It's a long time, Vinny.

• 1:56:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:56:38Patrick Bet-David?

  For comparison, it was 67% as recent as 2022. Can you, can you ask a question in the poll and say, uh, have you drank alcohol in the last 30 days? I don't care how many it is. Have you had any kind of alcohol last 30 days? Yes, no. Simple poll. Have you had any alcohol last?

• 1:56:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Any in the last 30 days.

• 1:56:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Any in a beer, tequila, whiskey, whatever. Absent. I don't care what it is. I wonder what, I don't think it's gonna be 80%.

• 1:57:01Tom Ellsworth?

  You think so?

• 1:57:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think it's gonna be 80%.

• 1:57:03Tom Ellsworth?

  30 days? No? Wow.

• 1:57:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Last 30 days? I think it's, I think it's gonna be 60%, 55 to 60%.

• 1:57:08Tom Ellsworth?

  But don't you think, don't you think when people stop drinking alcohol, they replace?

• 1:57:11Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, watch this. Watch this. So let me just finish this. Okay? Actual sale. Consumption data tells a similar story. According to IWSR, US beverage alcohol volume fell 5% in 2025 alone. The breakdown. Beer is down 6%, not last night. But beer is down.

• 1:57:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Shout out to Chris.

• 1:57:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Wine is down.

• 1:57:31Tom Ellsworth?

  One beer. Wasted.

• 1:57:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Spirits is down 4%. Ready to drink, what is that, by the way? Ready to drink? Is that the cans like?

• 1:57:40Tom Ellsworth?

  No, it's like the, the margarita mix you just poured over ice.

• 1:57:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Ready to, ready to drink is down 1%. Non-alcoholic beverage is up 15% and alcohol volumes declined. Out of 50 states. How many of them you think declined? Out of 50 states?

• 1:57:56Tom Ellsworth?

  All 50.

• 1:57:56Patrick Bet-David?

  49 out of 50. What do you think is the one state that didn't decline?

• 1:58:00Speaker 03

  Drinking?

• 1:58:00Tom Ellsworth?

  That gay bar in Boston.

• 1:58:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And we're gonna go to that. But what do you think is the state that didn't decline in drinking?

• 1:58:06Speaker 03

  Texas.

• 1:58:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Didn't decline.

• 1:58:07Patrick Bet-David?

  That's kinda weird. You should be able to get it, but.

• 1:58:09Speaker 03

  Kentucky. Don't, don't, don't, drinking? Alcohol?

• 1:58:12Speaker 12

  Alabama?

• 1:58:12Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's Nevada.

• 1:58:14Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, Vegas.

• 1:58:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, okay. Nevada didn't decline.

• 1:58:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Cause they give you free drinks when you're gambling.

• 1:58:18Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm gonna tell you what's going on here. I'm gonna tell you what's going on here. And I wonder if you got the poll, send it to me because I wanna know what the poll shows with our audience, where our audience is would say a lot. Is these health podcasts, I, I had Chip Wilson on. Founder of Lululemon, guy's worth $6 billion. I had him on the podcast eight years ago. Great conversation. And he said, very soon, we're gonna have something called Smart Clothes.

• 1:58:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And he says, in 20 years, so many people are gonna be in shape. That it's not gonna be a big deal if you're in shape. Most people will be in shape, he said, in 20 years. So he said this eight years ago. So we're gonna go to 2018. By 2038, most people will be in shape. And I said, why? He says, just the data. And now people are realizing you're killing yourself.

• 1:59:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:03Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're eating this food, you're drinking this alcohol, you're killing yourself. Are you okay with it? Cause the data's gonna be in your face. 44% said, yes, they drank. 56% said they haven't drank anything.

• 1:59:15Speaker 03

  Good for you guys.

• 1:59:15Tom Ellsworth?

  30 days.

• 1:59:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You're smart. Good for you. Okay? Good for you. Because last night, we would have disappointed you. Ammarred.

• 1:59:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Done.

• 1:59:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Right?

• 1:59:25Speaker 03

  Done.

• 1:59:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Rolling.

• 1:59:26Tom Ellsworth?

  On Camille T.

• 1:59:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm rolling, Doug.

• 1:59:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, but then he didn't anticipate all these GLP drugs out here. He thought they'd be Smart Clothes.

• 1:59:33Patrick Bet-David?

  But where it's going today, I do think the health podcasts are getting people to think about their health more than ever before. I think one of the worst things that happened to alcohol is all these major health podcasters that are doing what they're doing. Talking about the consequences. Podcasting destroyed the alcohol and beverage business. Podcasting in, in a massive percentage. Purely through education.

• 2:00:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Fully agree with you. And I, my, my only question would be, as, as much of those numbers are down?

• 2:00:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, he wants something to drink.

• 2:00:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll take one. Bud Light. Touch it.

• 2:00:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:08Tom Ellsworth?

  The only, my only question is, how much has other things gone up? How much has weed consumption gone up? Cava, THC?

• 2:00:16Speaker 03

  Oh, for sure. There's more options.

• 2:00:18Tom Ellsworth?

  How much of other things increased while alcohol has decreased?

• 2:00:21Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but you can't, those are two different things. This is drink. You could.

• 2:00:25Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I get it. But it's more like, hey, can I?

• 2:00:27Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no. Drink.

• 2:00:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Very few people can just go, do, do what Vinny does. Go out and be completely sober and do nothing wrong.

• 2:00:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I think a lot of people are doing it. I think a lot of people are doing it.

• 2:00:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree with you, but I also think they're smoking cigars, they're vaping.

• 2:00:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you ever gone to the doctor and done a CAT scan and something shows up in your health where you kinda like all of a sudden get uncomfortable? Has that ever happened?

• 2:00:49Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. All the time. They're like, what the hell is that?

• 2:00:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Then when the doctor says, uh, this is not good.

• 2:00:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're like, what's not good?

• 2:00:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you know, these cholesterol levels.

• 2:01:02Speaker 03

  You gotta get on Lipitor, homie.

• 2:01:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta get on statin. You gotta get on Lipitor. You gotta get on this. You gotta get.

• 2:01:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:07Patrick Bet-David?

  The moment that conversation has, people are, so now imagine all of those videos that are going viral saying, if you drink alcohol, this is what happens to your body. You are literally killing yourself when you drink alcohol. Oh my God, I'm gonna stop drinking. So the, the fear aspect of health is truly making an impact. And I think a lot more people are like Vinny quitting alcohol purely.

• 2:01:27Speaker 03

  And I love, and I, and I love it. And I've, I've said this before. I think we talked about this yesterday. Where I go, if you eat too much food, if you sit there and just, you know what they say, oh, oh man, I, I'm full. When you drink too much alcohol, it's called alcohol poisoning.

• 2:01:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Poisoning.

• 2:01:42Speaker 03

  It's, it's literally, like, when, when we walk around, we see somebody like this, we're like, ah, look, look at him. He's buzzed. No, no. He's poisoned, but he's not poisoned to the point where he's gonna die. You know what I mean? Because your liver, you know, it rejuvenates itself, which is, you know, I, I guess if livers didn't do that, there'd be a lot of less people drinking. Pat, but, but there's an exception, cause 5% of Gen Z is down from drinking.

• 2:02:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Chris, what would need to happen for you to quit drinking?

• 2:02:07Speaker 12

  I have no idea. I mean, I don't drink a lot. You know what I mean? I don't get drunk. So I mean, I don't know.

• 2:02:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell the truth, what happened last night?

• 2:02:14Speaker 12

  No, oh, yeah, right.

• 2:02:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me defend my guy, Chris.

• 2:02:16Speaker 03

  You were in Miami.

• 2:02:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I tried to take him out with me last night. He wouldn't go out.

• 2:02:20Speaker 12

  I had, I've had problems with drinking. Like Vinny, I swear, like, just growing up, like, drink all the time. You know, high school parties and stuff like that. And, you know, a couple of times throughout my marriage, you know, I've gotten too drunk. I mean, I've not done anything stupid, but you know, so I can go to sleep like, like an idiot. But, uh, I don't know. I mean, we consider it all the time, me and my wife. We talk all the time.

• 2:02:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you, would you consider it?

• 2:02:40Speaker 12

  Yeah, I consider it all the time.

• 2:02:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, what, what do you?

• 2:02:42Speaker 12

  Just because of my kids. It's like, you know, I mean.

• 2:02:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What would get you to say? I wonder like what the process a person goes through. What would get somebody to say, I would quit drinking?

• 2:02:51Speaker 12

  I think, I would say, for me, like I said, I mean, my wife will tell you, it's like, you know, I mean, I like to, used to get party and stuff like that. And, you know, you always have a little bit of taste of it, but for me, I think it's like, I mean, there's people in my family like, oh, I don't drink. But it's like, dude, you're on every pill from the doctor there is. So I mean, I'm on no medication, right? Yeah, I mean, I like to have two or three beers every now and again. So what? I mean, to me, that's how I, maybe that's how I convince myself in my mind, but I'm not saying I'm right.

• 2:03:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:18Speaker 12

  You know, everybody's on, you know, whatever else. Adderall, I mean, whatever else.

• 2:03:22Patrick Bet-David?

  If you have to choose, yeah, you're right. I mean.

• 2:03:24Speaker 12

  I, I grew up in high school, like the times, like

• 2:03:28Speaker 12

  everybody had, was on Adderall. Like you can literally just go get it. And here's another thing about Adderall, I'll just tell you. My buddy's an Air Force recruiter.

• 2:03:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 2:03:35Speaker 12

  And he told me that 90%, this is what he told me, and this is in India, that have high school graduates are automatically disqualified because they're on some sort of Adderall. Or SSAR, cause you have to be off T- time. Don't quote me, but something you had to be off of medication, I wanna say for at least one year. Before you could join.

• 2:03:52Speaker 03

  No wonder why the frigging recruitment numbers was frigging down for all that time.

• 2:03:56Speaker 12

  Everybody's on Adderall. He was going, and I was like, yeah, I can't focus. Like my buddies would get it, it's a party drug.

• 2:03:59Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think?

• 2:04:00Tom Ellsworth?

  So here's what I see. I, I like looking back at pictures like 1940s and 50s. Just look at the streets of New York. After a baseball game, a parade.

• 2:04:08Patrick Bet-David?

  In shape, skinny.

• 2:04:09Tom Ellsworth?

  You, exactly. You don't see this, the level of obesity and the number of people fighting that. And it's because of two things in America. One is fats and the other is sugar. Sugar and soda, sugar and cereal, the excess sugar, we know about it. Well, guess what else has a lot of excess sugar? Beer.

• 2:04:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:04:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, alcohol.

• 2:04:28Speaker 03

  I mean, a lot of, that's.

• 2:04:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Jameson.

• 2:04:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Sugar. And so now you've got people aware of the effects of alcohol, aware of the, what's, what's happening with sugar and soda. And going to get GLP. And so if you wanna, if you want the GLP to work,

• 2:04:44Speaker 03

  You're done with GLP.

• 2:04:45Tom Ellsworth?

  You have to, you can't fight it with sugar. And people that go on the GLP, they see a double. And if you, you read about people saying, hey, remember, remember the sugar. You know, back off the sugar.

• 2:04:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that time, you just made very good point. So let me just kinda go through what has the least amount of sugar. And what has the heist. And don't let this inspire you.

• 2:05:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, people like.

• 2:05:04Patrick Bet-David?

  So vodka, tequila, whiskey, gin, rum, straight, zero sugar.

• 2:05:08Speaker 03

  Huh.

• 2:05:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So a person could use that excuse. That's why I only drink.

• 2:05:11Speaker 03

  I only drink gin, brother. I hate whiskey.

• 2:05:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Hard seltzer, unsweetened, got zero to two grams. Dry red wine, one gram. Dry white wine, one or two grams. Regular beer, 10 to 15 grams. Total carbs and usually very low sugar, but it's got the carbs. Champagne, one or three grams. Sweet wine. Eight to 20 grams. Rum and Coke. 25 to 40 grams. Mojito. 15 to 30 grams of sugar. Margarita. Did I pronounce that right?

• 2:05:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, one margarita, two margaritas.

• 2:05:45Patrick Bet-David?

  35 grams of sugar. Pina colada, 25 to 50 grams of sugar.

• 2:05:49Tom Ellsworth?

  No good.

• 2:05:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Frozen daiquiri, sweet for like, this is Adam's drink. Frozen daiquiri.

• 2:05:53Speaker 03

  Loves it.

• 2:05:54Patrick Bet-David?

  30 to 60 grams.

• 2:05:56Tom Ellsworth?

  What about a Shirley's? And by the way, and by the way, when people are out, I don't see people with shots. I don't see people on the rocks. I see people drink. It's the other stuff that's in it. It's the sugar in the daiquiri, the sugar in the, and so people are backing off. People with GLP, you'll see comments back and forth, says, hey, remember, you gotta go easy on this. You gotta do easy on sugar. Don't, because you're paying for these, these injections, don't fight it the other way.

• 2:06:20Speaker 03

  Let me, let me ask Tom a question. What's, I wanna know what your drink is. Like when you get into the studio about to rap.

• 2:06:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:27Speaker 03

  About to low, throw a beat down.

• 2:06:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:29Speaker 03

  You have one cocktail. Maybe you puff a little something. What's your drink of choice?

• 2:06:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat knows, I'll have a glass of red wine with a steak rarely.

• 2:06:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Compared to five years ago, it's rarely. He knows. We've been out so many times.

• 2:06:41Speaker 03

  Guys, little.

• 2:06:41Tom Ellsworth?

  It's one, and I'll say to them, hey, bring me the best house Pinot Noir you have, but bring it with my steak. I don't have it before dinner and I don't wolf on, on bread. So I'm moderating that. And so I'll enjoy that with the steak rarely.

• 2:06:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:06:55Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, mostly you'll see me have, they say, hey, can you bring me a cranberry juice with lime in it? And I'll have one and then with no alcohol in it. And then I'm drinking sparkling water all.

• 2:07:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna tell you this. I went from 259 pounds in January with a belly, okay? To 229 this morning, okay? 259 to 229.

• 2:07:17Tom Ellsworth?

  And you're 6'4".

• 2:07:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm 6'4".

• 2:07:18Tom Ellsworth?

  So I mean.

• 2:07:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Means I can handle the weight.

• 2:07:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I know, I know on the internet, you're 5'6".

• 2:07:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so funny. Uh, so what was cut? July of 2019, I cut soda. The guy yesterday, Mark brought Coca-Cola from McDonald's. I'm not touching that.

• 2:07:33Tom Ellsworth?

  He did have a Big Mac.

• 2:07:34Patrick Bet-David?

  He did have a Big Mac and the fries. No Coke. Uh, when I would go to movies and I go to movies a lot with the kids, I would have Slurpee and popcorn, slushy and icy. And the big ones. Guess what? Just cutting that alone.

• 2:07:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Was massive. Haven't had one in one, I haven't had one since January of this year, not one.

• 2:07:54Speaker 03

  I could vouch for that.

• 2:07:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I would go and get the cheese, you know, with the popcorn and cheese. Oh my God, that cheese to me is a.

• 2:08:00Speaker 03

  Nachos.

• 2:08:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But popcorn with cheese.

• 2:08:01Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, that's, that's a different story.

• 2:08:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Legendary.

• 2:08:04Tom Ellsworth?

  In Iran, I mean.

• 2:08:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Legendary, right? We got rid of all the cereal in our pantry. And my cereal, you know what it is?

• 2:08:11Speaker 03

  Lucky charm cinnamon.

• 2:08:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Coco Krispy.

• 2:08:14Speaker 03

  Oh wow.

• 2:08:15Patrick Bet-David?

  My God. Put a bo, and you know when Coco Krispies is the best?

• 2:08:19Speaker 03

  Cold.

• 2:08:20Patrick Bet-David?

  10:30 at night.

• 2:08:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh no.

• 2:08:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, what's this?

• 2:08:22Patrick Bet-David?

  By yourself, you're just like.

• 2:08:24Speaker 03

  This is crazy talk, Pat.

• 2:08:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Sugar at night.

• 2:08:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Killing it, right?

• 2:08:27Speaker 03

  This is sugar crazy.

• 2:08:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Killing it, right? And then, uh, cut a lot of that stuff and I moved my dinner to 4:30. So unless if I go out and I'm hanging out with people, moving dinner from eight o'clock at night that some Middle Easterns eat, just move that up to 4:30, 4:45, night and day for you.

• 2:08:44Tom Ellsworth?

  4:30.

• 2:08:44Patrick Bet-David?

  4:30, 4:45.

• 2:08:46Tom Ellsworth?

  I can't condone.

• 2:08:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Because you have a wake hour.

• 2:08:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Dinner needs to be.

• 2:08:49Patrick Bet-David?

  And then.

• 2:08:50Tom Ellsworth?

  When the sun is down.

• 2:08:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Breakfast, if you can go without breakfast and let your body go through the whole process of, uh, what did it call it?

• 2:08:56Speaker 03

  Ketosis?

• 2:08:58Patrick Bet-David?

  The fasting that you're going through and the body's getting ready for.

• 2:09:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Now that's something I'm open to. A lot of people have been telling me.

• 2:09:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Those simple things changed my life. And I would say, never combine two bar, two glasses of wine with an old fashioned Vinny. Don't do that.

• 2:09:12Speaker 03

  I would highly recommend not drinking like that.

• 2:09:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Never do that.

• 2:09:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, but little fun fact, guys, cocaine looks like.

• 2:09:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Stop it.

• 2:09:20Speaker 03

  Zero sugar, gluten free.

• 2:09:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey guys, can we pull out that video that we just had on the screen?

• 2:09:26Speaker 03

  Hey, don't play the, the audio.

• 2:09:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the music.

• 2:09:28Speaker 03

  Don't go play the music. Play the music.

• 2:09:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Play no music, but just watch, Tom.

• 2:09:32Speaker 03

  Look at Tom, look at how wet guys in the studio. Look how wet Tom's hair is. Look at Pat getting, uh, shoot everybody, Pat. Shoot everybody, Pat. Look at that. Get that money out. Get the, uh.

• 2:09:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh.

• 2:09:43Speaker 03

  Uh.

• 2:09:43Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, if you go back, Tom almost grabbed his.

• 2:09:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom almost grabbed his junk.

• 2:09:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:47Speaker 03

  Go back to, go back to Tom almost grabbing his.

• 2:09:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, he's about to grab his crotch and he doesn't do it. Look at him.

• 2:09:52Speaker 03

  The biz doc. Biz doc is grabbing the biz crotch.

• 2:09:54Tom Ellsworth?

  The biz.

• 2:09:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Gang, gang.

• 2:09:58Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, there you go. The truth is out.

• 2:10:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Shout out to the Migos.

• 2:10:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't want to see Tom, uh, rapping. He's actually pretty good.

• 2:10:04Speaker 03

  Well, your moves, Pat. Look at your moves.

• 2:10:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next story. One of the funniest stories we've done in a while. You ready for this one? Uh, I want to find this story because there's a page on it. So is that the one? Yeah, there it is. So the best story Boston Globe has done in a while that got them a thousands of new paid subscribers. This is the story. You ready for this? You're almost not going to believe it. A Western Massachusetts lesbian bar required the KN95 masks. When it changed the rules, all hell broke loose. Okay, let's go through this story.

• 2:10:42Speaker 03

  Wait, this is a lesbian communist bar?

• 2:10:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Lesbian.

• 2:10:44Speaker 03

  Is it called the red carpet?

• 2:10:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read it to you, okay? So, uh, which is the one, okay? On, an August 31st Instagram post from Last Ditch Bar and Arts Venue, a lesbian bar in Greenfield, Massachusetts teased a new DJ lineup and partway down dropped a sentence that's splintered the queer community of the Pioneer Valley. It is with love we inform our, what the hell is that?

• 2:11:11Speaker 03

  In love?

• 2:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. What is it? Immune compromised disabled divas. We will be opening Saturday night as mask optional. Patrons had previously been required to wear well fitted KN95 mask or better at all times. The change was not received with love. Just say you're being complicit in a mask disabling event and get it over with. One commenter wrote, people like you kill disabled people in the name of your own leisure and convenience. Posted another, one hopped the venue gets firebombed, the Globe traced it.

• 2:11:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 2:11:49Patrick Bet-David?

  The fallout as a case study in COVID era activists.

• 2:11:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Subcultures while masking became identity and relaxing, it became betrayal. Five plus years after the pandemic, uh, pandemic's peak. So apparently this, this story with the mask meltdown generated thousands of subscribers in one day for Boston Globe. And on pace to shatter all sorts of Boston Globe records. These guys did the Catholic story with the boys, the movie that came out with Tom Hanks. Okay, per, uh, Max Tenny, managing editor calling it by far our most best performing story of the year, the Globe Peace Chronicle, the ditch bar and, uh, when they put that tweet out there. So the, the details keeps escalating. Rules welcoming poor and unhoused people. A bartender rejecting a Lady Gaga night because Gaga is canceled.

• 2:12:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Gaga is a Zionist and a September 11 community meeting where owner Jackie Metallian, working multiple jobs and living in her car broke down. Just trying to make it work for these communist lesbians who want a mask to be on. I never really wanted this. I don't think I'm going, doing a very good job. Attending slammed her tears as incredibly racist and deflecting behavior and objecting that the mediator was a white therapist. Metallian owes her landlord $3,900 by months. And so Vinny, what do you think about this crazy story here?

• 2:13:12Speaker 03

  Well.

• 2:13:12Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, can we see some pictures of what these ladies look like? That'd be great.

• 2:13:15Speaker 03

  Well, I was just, look at how hairy her legs are. That, zoom in on that. I want you to zoom in on those legs right there.

• 2:13:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that really hairy?

• 2:13:23Speaker 03

  The, yeah, can you zoom in on that or no? Like right there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, keep going, keep going.

• 2:13:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So they all have masks?

• 2:13:29Speaker 03

  So that's.

• 2:13:30Tom Ellsworth?

  At a bar.

• 2:13:31Speaker 03

  Easing the mask. Pat, like, like.

• 2:13:33Patrick Bet-David?

  First of all, like, can I ask a very weird, like, is this appropriate to ask this question?

• 2:13:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Go for it.

• 2:13:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You're a lesbian, you want a mask on?

• 2:13:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, yeah.

• 2:13:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't go deeper, don't say anything.

• 2:13:45Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:13:45Tom Ellsworth?

  We won't go deeper. Pat, can't.

• 2:13:47Speaker 03

  How can you, how are you doing anything? How is anything happening?

• 2:13:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't that like, like?

• 2:13:52Speaker 03

  It's against the.

• 2:13:52Patrick Bet-David?

  If I was a lesbian, I would go to places that don't wear masks.

• 2:13:56Speaker 03

  I have zero mask.

• 2:13:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Shows you who's open minded.

• 2:13:58Speaker 03

  You're damn right. No pun intended. So I just think that anything.

• 2:14:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Catastrophic decision here, Tom.

• 2:14:03Speaker 03

  Just the fact that you.

• 2:14:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I think this is going to lead the Boston Globe covering other things such as a gay totalitarian bar, free beer, free Tibet.

• 2:14:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So it's. A little bit weird.

• 2:14:13Tom Ellsworth?

  It's, and the, the Boston Globe is going to be running for, see, this works. So stand by for other stories from the Boston Globe who they can talk about this or that, but deep inside they're capitalists and they want to get subscribers. So, um, I'm, I'm waiting for a whole list of these stories every Thursday.

• 2:14:30Patrick Bet-David?

  The fact that this is the biggest story of Boston Globe, that they're reporting saying they gained thousands of subscribers. Per note from Boston Will Staff, the lesbian bar story generated 1,000 subscription to the paper yesterday. The Globe manager editor said, by far the best performing. Insanity. Insanity.

• 2:14:47Tom Ellsworth?

  So you think they're gonna do it again, Pat? What do you think?

• 2:14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what it does? This, this, what I love about the story is when we had Mehdi Hassan on and I said, hey man, isn't it great that you're now a capitalist? He said, I'm not a capitalist. He says, of course you're a capitalist. You started your own.

• 2:14:58Speaker 03

  Company.

• 2:14:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's gonna crush. He's gonna do well. He's gonna, he's very, very talented. But the longer you're alive, the longer you eventually become a capitalist. And hopefully you realize, hey man, we gotta make sure we find a way for this lady to make money to pay her rent, the $3,900 or else this incredibly lesbian communist club is gonna shut down and we need this place to be shut down. We need this place to be open.

• 2:15:19Speaker 03

  She can't afford razors to shave her legs.

• 2:15:21Tom Ellsworth?

  But good point. At some point in time, you're gonna realize that rent and food takes cash. Ain't that a bitch?

• 2:15:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, but, but you know what it is? Uh, cause I, I know you want to go, this is, might be the greatest example, Tom. I've seen of people getting eaten alive by the culture they helped create, okay? She's broke, living in her truck. She's working four jobs, drowning in debt. And the people that you're trying to please, they're calling you racist, ableist, because you made mask optionals. What, guys, one night a week in 2026. And if we're gonna be honest, Tom, and then you apologize and then they attacked the apology because it didn't feel like an alternative text.

• 2:16:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know.

• 2:16:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Where does she live?

• 2:16:02Speaker 03

  Boston, right?

• 2:16:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, but where does she live?

• 2:16:04Speaker 03

  She's in her truck.

• 2:16:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Down by the river.

• 2:16:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 2:16:07Tom Ellsworth?

  In a van.

• 2:16:08Speaker 03

  But like, it, it, it's insane.

• 2:16:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Chris, what do you think? I have no clue. It's the best answer.

• 2:16:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Chris, come on, man. You haven't been to a lesbian community this far.

• 2:16:17Speaker 03

  Because just to wrap your head around this, it's, it's, it's, it's boggles my mind that that, like, listen to all the levels of how insane it is. And it's, by the way, am I the only one that if you guys are hanging around right now, the other, when was it? Was it yesterday, Chris? We're sitting there, this lady had a mask, Pat, when was it? Was it yesterday or the day before? We're sitting there eating in 2026. Guys, COVID, what happened? COVID? Anybody? Did COVID disappear just like the flu when COVID happened? She had a mask on so tight. When I see somebody when the mask, wearing a mask, that to me is like the, you are the most gullible, brainwashed, like if God forbid the zombie apocalypse comes, you're the first ones to get it.

• 2:16:58Speaker 03

  Those people, what, what, what are you wearing a mask for? This lady was 30 years old, tight, tight mask in a restaurant. And every time she ate, I'm like, what the hell is going on?

• 2:17:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, that's another one of those.

• 2:17:09Speaker 03

  What is wrong with you?

• 2:17:10Patrick Bet-David?

  If a man goes on a date, a girl's still got a mask on, you gotta be like.

• 2:17:13Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 2:17:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta move on. You gotta move on.

• 2:17:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I mean. You've just described Islam.

• 2:17:18Speaker 04

  You're going on a date and you're, and the person you're dating is sitting there in full burka.

• 2:17:23Speaker 03

  It's a ninja.

• 2:17:24Speaker 04

  It's like, when do you, when do you get to meet?

• 2:17:27Speaker 03

  At some, hopefully some point later on.

• 2:17:30Speaker 04

  I gotta give, I gotta give Tom a credit for that one.

• 2:17:33Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 2:17:33Speaker 04

  Look, this bar is the exact opposite of any bar I've ever been to in South Beach. And South Beach, it's chicks in mini skirts, fake this, fake that, you know, lips inflated. The last thing they have is a mask on.

• 2:17:45Speaker 03

  Men in mini skirts.

• 2:17:46Speaker 04

  Only fans chicks. Yeah, literally none of that, but this to me.

• 2:17:49Speaker 03

  No, not on Collins Avenue, never.

• 2:17:51Speaker 04

  This to me, Tom knows a lot about what's going on in South Beach, apparently. That bar, boy, he's a hip hop artist. This, this bar is like the Venn diagram of like, pre Palestine, mask mandate, pro Lindsay Clancy, LGBTQIA, identity pronoun, anti-capitalist communist. Shove them all in a bar, I would just lock the door, now as you can't leave and let them all figure it out and, uh, let the best man win in that. By the way, did you guys invite them to your bar?

• 2:18:17Patrick Bet-David?

  There's two stories we got. One of the two stories to get to, do we want to go to the Xi Jinping or do we want to go through what just came out when Hillary Clinton said kicking out the free press and stories came out of Julian Assange where in an email she asked, can't we just drone the guy? Did you guys see that?

• 2:18:32Speaker 03

  I saw that.

• 2:18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so go to the Hillary Clinton post. Hillary Clinton posts yesterday, kicking out free press is what fragile authoritarians do, not American presidents. This is her tweet 24 hours ago, okay?

• 2:18:46Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:18:46Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is what she says, kicking out free press is what fragile authoritarians do, not American president. And, uh, she gets a, uh, community note, Hillary Clinton literally suggested US should kill a prominent journalist, Julian Assange, through a drone. Have you seen this letter?

• 2:19:01Speaker 03

  She's a killer.

• 2:19:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go to the, can you go to the tweet that shows the, the, the notes?

• 2:19:07Speaker 03

  Look at this.

• 2:19:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to this, can't we just, where's the, well, no, no, but there's, there's actually a link.

• 2:19:13Speaker 03

  Highlighted, that's highlighted in yellow.

• 2:19:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That says, can't we, um.

• 2:19:16Speaker 03

  Just drone the guy.

• 2:19:17Patrick Bet-David?

  This is one frustrated Hillary Clinton sources said at some point blurted out a controversial query. She said, can't we just drone this guy? Clinton openly inquired, offering a simple remedy to silence Assange and smother WikiLeaks via planned military drone strike. According to State Department sources, the statement drew laughter from the room, which quickly died off when the secretary kept talking in a terse manner. Sources said Clinton said Assange, after all, was a relatively soft target, walking around freely and thumbing his nose without any fear of reprisals from the United States.

• 2:19:52Speaker 03

  That's the, that's the true Hillary Clinton. So all the people out there that are like, I'm with her and everything. She is a legitimate.

• 2:19:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Gangster.

• 2:20:00Speaker 03

  Killer gangster.

• 2:20:01Speaker 04

  And you know why the room got quiet?

• 2:20:02Speaker 03

  Why?

• 2:20:03Speaker 04

  Cause everybody's going like this, oh crap, she's serious.

• 2:20:05Speaker 03

  She's serious. Oh guys, and, and, and one of the most, and I, I talked about this last night at dinner, I'm one of those guys that would sit there, pre-COVID, after COVID, during COVID, I would just watch hearings after hearings from Benghazi to you name it, and her attitude, Hillary, buddy, besides all the mysterious suicide death, Mark Middleton, people that are connected to her, her husband, or the, the Clinton Foundation, guys, her attitude of Chris Stevens and all these American patriots getting killed, she's like, what difference does it make? She doesn't care. Hillary Clinton, and you nailed it, Pat, she is a legitimate gangster and I believe her 100%. So the irony of her trying to talk about the free press, you wanted to kill a guy that

• 2:20:48Speaker 03

  released footage that he got of American soldiers killing, killing innocent people in that video. What was it called? Collateral damage? Like, give me a freaking break. That's who Hillary Clinton is.

• 2:21:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Chris, are you a big Hillary fan? Yeah, I voted for her.

• 2:21:03Speaker 03

  Did you really?

• 2:21:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No. He speaks sarcasm.

• 2:21:07Speaker 03

  Yes, he does.

• 2:21:08Patrick Bet-David?

  He speaks sarcasm.

• 2:21:09Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 2:21:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, gang, it's 11:30 and, uh, it's time. We all got meetings, some of us have meetings, some of us have to go drink a, you know, a couple, uh.

• 2:21:16Speaker 04

  A couple of pina coladas, Pat.

• 2:21:17Speaker 03

  Pina coladas.

• 2:21:18Speaker 04

  A little respect for the pina colada community.

• 2:21:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Chris, uh, uh, how was the experience last night and today? Great. I mean, it was great. That's all I can say. That's it, there you go.

• 2:21:26Speaker 04

  Most casual guy I've ever met, man.

• 2:21:28Speaker 03

  I love him.

• 2:21:29Speaker 04

  Of many, whatever, man.

• 2:21:30Patrick Bet-David?

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• 2:21:51Speaker 04

  Can't wait.

• 2:21:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I think you're going to enjoy the interviews that's coming here soon. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

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