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• 1:06Connor Wood?

  Hi, welcome back to Brooke and Connor Make a Podcast.

• 1:09Brooke Averick?

  Hi.

• 1:10Connor Wood?

  Can't stop thinking-

• 1:11Brooke Averick?

  Welcome back.

• 1:11Connor Wood?

  I can't stop thinking about that photo you posted to me on your Snapchat story last night, where I looked completely... I looked otherworldly.

• 1:17Brooke Averick?

  But it was like funny.

• 1:19Connor Wood?

  No, it was like-

• 1:19Brooke Averick?

  Like it was funny because you don't look like that.

• 1:22Connor Wood?

  Well, I was kind of excited to see it, like, because I kind of was like, I'm sitting chilling. Like, I like my outfit. Like, I can't wait to see that photo later. The chum bucket. That's what it looked like, an advertisement for the chum bucket.

• 1:33Brooke Averick?

  It had a nice amount of screenshots.

• 1:55Brooke Averick?

  It was funny.

• 1:56Connor Wood?

  It wasn't even like a, "Oh, candid, I'm walking, but like a bad..." I was sitting there relaxing.

• 2:02Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, it was like a funny, bad picture. You're fine. You will be fine.

• 2:07Connor Wood?

  It's a bad picture.

• 2:08Brooke Averick?

  You will be okay.

• 2:09Connor Wood?

  It had how many screenshots?

• 2:10Brooke Averick?

  I don't know.

• 2:12Connor Wood?

  Check.

• 2:15Brooke Averick?

  You will be so fine.

• 2:16Connor Wood?

  How many screenshots? That's just like a, it's just like a tough nut to swallow.

• 2:21Brooke Averick?

  It had.

• 2:22Connor Wood?

  No, don't tell me. Yeah, tell me.

• 2:23Brooke Averick?

  111?

• 2:26Connor Wood?

  Six figures?

• 2:28Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 2:29Connor Wood?

  Three figures?

• 2:29Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 2:33Connor Wood?

  Whew, okay.

• 2:34Brooke Averick?

  You're, you're gonna pull through.

• 2:36Connor Wood?

  You know what?

• 2:36Brooke Averick?

  I know you are.

• 2:37Connor Wood?

  Mine had a lot of screenshots yesterday, too. I think it might be a glitch. I don't think that that many, because I, I posted yesterday, "All I've eaten today is ham."

• 2:45Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 2:45Connor Wood?

  And it has 192 screenshots.

• 2:47Brooke Averick?

  Okay. Can I see the picture?

• 2:49Connor Wood?

  It was a good picture.

• 2:49Brooke Averick?

  Is there something going on?

• 2:50Connor Wood?

  It was a good picture.

• 2:50Brooke Averick?

  Let me see.

• 2:51Connor Wood?

  I think it was good.

• 2:52Brooke Averick?

  Let me see then.

• 2:55Connor Wood?

  Good, not great. I didn't say it was great.

• 2:57Brooke Averick?

  Um, there must be a glitch. You're right.

• 3:00Connor Wood?

  My, my round, I looked, you know what?

• 3:04Brooke Averick?

  What?

• 3:05Connor Wood?

  You're not gonna give, right now, but I started taking creatine.

• 3:08Brooke Averick?

  Are you bulking?

• 3:10Connor Wood?

  No, I was just like suggested to start taking creatine. And it, I guess you start withholding water.

• 3:17Brooke Averick?

  Withholding?

• 3:18Connor Wood?

  I don't know, holding, taking on water.

• 3:20Brooke Averick?

  Oh, get, absorb, having a little water weight?

• 3:23Connor Wood?

  Yeah, you're just like, retain.

• 3:25Brooke Averick?

  Retaining, retaining, retaining.

• 3:26Connor Wood?

  Yeah, so there's like some sort of retaining wall happening, and I think it's only in my face.

• 3:30Brooke Averick?

  You're fine.

• 3:34Connor Wood?

  Look at that picture again. Look at that picture again.

• 3:36Brooke Averick?

  It's a bad picture.

• 3:37Connor Wood?

  Yeah, but that was my natural state.

• 3:39Brooke Averick?

  No, let's, we're moving on.

• 3:42Connor Wood?

  When I'm sitting, okay.

• 3:43Brooke Averick?

  You do look really tan, though.

• 3:45Connor Wood?

  I sat out yesterday.

• 3:47Brooke Averick?

  That's not artificial at all?

• 3:48Connor Wood?

  No.

• 3:49Brooke Averick?

  Why'd you just smile like that?

• 3:51Connor Wood?

  Because I'm excited.

• 3:51Brooke Averick?

  Are you lying?

• 3:52Connor Wood?

  No, I'm excited that you think that it looks artificial.

• 3:54Brooke Averick?

  You look really tan, yeah.

• 3:55Connor Wood?

  Thank you.

• 3:56Brooke Averick?

  It's nice.

• 3:57Connor Wood?

  That's what happens when I come to California.

• 3:59Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Stay, stay a little bit, stay a while, stay a while.

• 4:01Connor Wood?

  I live here, full, I haven't been, I haven't left California this month, and it is, what's today? It's the 20th.

• 4:07Brooke Averick?

  Stay, stay, stay a while.

• 4:09Connor Wood?

  Thanks.

• 4:10Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, you might, you might find out you like it.

• 4:16Connor Wood?

  I do like it. It's really nice.

• 4:18Brooke Averick?

  Give it a chance.

• 4:18Connor Wood?

  We were laughing yesterday because Brooke is going for Memorial Day, like the group of theirs is going. And she looked up the weather yesterday and found it to be

• 4:28Brooke Averick?

  Lower 50s.

• 4:28Connor Wood?

  In the 50s and cloudy and raining and thunderstorm.

• 4:31Brooke Averick?

  Lower 50s.

• 4:32Connor Wood?

  What did you say to me?

• 4:33Brooke Averick?

  House on the beach will be in the lower 50s for now. Rain and thunder. I appreciate that.

• 4:40Brooke Averick?

  And then Connor was like, oh, it's not bad. Like it'll

• 4:43Connor Wood?

  It might turn around.

• 4:44Brooke Averick?

  Turn around. And I was like, well, what are you doing for Memorial Day? And he was like, oh, I'm staying here. The weather's amazing. Thank you so much.

• 4:51Connor Wood?

  Stick around. You might like it.

• 4:52Brooke Averick?

  I just like, I planned so many things months and months ago when I was mentally well. And I was like, all of these things will be fun. Like I want to celebrate Phoebe. And now that I've entered this space of mental unwellness that now that she's nearing, I'm like, why did I? Why did I do anything? Why did I plan this beach trip? That's four more days away. I planned, I planned this big party. Like, why did I do that? Like, why did I, I did so much. And now that we're here, it's like, what was she thinking? I'm thinking, I was, she was thinking that she really wanted to celebrate. But I'm fine now. Like, I'm good.

• 5:35Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 5:35Brooke Averick?

  I want to rest. Like, I'm already tired and nothing started. I'm so grateful and excited more than, more than everything.

• 5:42Connor Wood?

  That's saying.

• 5:43Brooke Averick?

  But I'm definitely experiencing some, um, mental trials and tribulations.

• 5:47Connor Wood?

  Some restlessness.

• 5:49Brooke Averick?

  Some, yeah, some restless leg syndrome and, and shit like that. And

• 5:54Brooke Averick?

  obviously, like, no one thought I was going to be doing well, like with the release of a debut novel, like, like, that wasn't expected for me to do well. And I'm, and, and that's great. And that's fine. And so it's just, the expected is happening and that's all good. And we're ready for it. And we're going to push through and it's going to be amazing. And I can't wait. And I won't see you next week because I will be, I'll have, I'll be away.

• 6:19Connor Wood?

  I'm coming.

• 6:21Brooke Averick?

  No, I, so next week will we have an episode, Izzy? So we will not have an episode at all next week in honor of

• 6:28Connor Wood?

  Ms. Phoebe.

• 6:29Brooke Averick?

  Phoeber.

• 6:30Connor Wood?

  McPhoeber?

• 6:30Brooke Averick?

  Uh, McPhoeber. She will be out next week.

• 6:33Connor Wood?

  Phoebe Fever.

• 6:34Brooke Averick?

  It's nausea.

• 6:35Connor Wood?

  Wait, but I'm recording while you're away.

• 6:38Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, but there will be no episode. There will be no episode next week. I don't know when you're recording, but then there will be two episodes without me.

• 6:47Connor Wood?

  Yes.

• 6:47Brooke Averick?

  With Jeff Connor. So I'll be gone for three.

• 6:50Connor Wood?

  Yeah. Well, not just me. We're gonna have some, someone will be on in her.

• 6:54Brooke Averick?

  In my, in amazing office.

• 6:55Connor Wood?

  In her stead.

• 6:56Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, in my stead. So I'll be gone and I will miss you all deeply. Please keep me in your thoughts. I'm so excited. I'm extremely nauseous. Um, everything should be good and I'm very sick.

• 7:08Connor Wood?

  It's gonna be amazing. It's, that's like a learning moment too, because a lot of times like the, the things that you build up. A great celebration would be to go home and hit the hay, you know, but you don't realize that. But cool. Now you know that like when you release it and you put out a bunch of things and you're working really hard and, and it's, and it, and it is up. Maybe give it a week before you decide to hit the town, you know?

• 7:28Brooke Averick?

  Well, my therapist was saying, cause I was like, why did I do this? What was I thinking? I'm so stupid, blah, blah, blah. And she was like, that was still you that really wanted to celebrate and like she is still in there.

• 7:41Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 7:41Brooke Averick?

  You know, like that was you. So I have to trust myself.

• 7:47Connor Wood?

  Yeah. You're reaping what you, what you sow.

• 7:49Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. At one point in time, I believed this was cause for celebration.

• 7:54Connor Wood?

  It's.

• 7:54Brooke Averick?

  And it is.

• 7:55Connor Wood?

  It's from, from, from where I'm sitting, I'm excited to go to that party.

• 7:58Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 7:59Connor Wood?

  So, thank you.

• 8:00Brooke Averick?

  You're welcome.

• 8:01Connor Wood?

  You're giving, that's, that is another weird thing about celebrating your personal win is that like, it's for other people kinda. Like I'm excited to go to that party. You're like, I would like to go to bed.

• 8:12Brooke Averick?

  Ooh, yeah.

• 8:13Connor Wood?

  It's almost like.

• 8:14Brooke Averick?

  Oh my God, yeah. Sorry. I'm really like nauseous.

• 8:17Connor Wood?

  Yeah, that's okay. It'll be fun.

• 8:20Brooke Averick?

  No, I know, I know, I know, I know.

• 8:22Connor Wood?

  I, I love the idea of reaping what you sow. Remember the correlation we talked about a long time ago about reaping what you sow?

• 8:29Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 8:30Connor Wood?

  It's just like such a correlation between reaping and sowing, which is so direct. Like you've worked so hard and you're about to sow so hard, you know?

• 8:44Brooke Averick?

  You know, but it's not sowing, you know, like stitching, right?

• 8:47Connor Wood?

  Yeah. It's sowing as in harvesting your crops. And then on the other side, if, if, if you're not really sowing, you're not gonna reap much, which is really, it's, it's hard. That's a tough nut to swallow too.

• 9:01Brooke Averick?

  Okay. Sorry.

• 9:03Connor Wood?

  It's okay. Are you gonna throw up, do you think?

• 9:05Brooke Averick?

  No, I'm not. I'm not gonna throw up, but this has been for like two weeks. I've just been like on the brink.

• 9:11Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 9:12Brooke Averick?

  Thank you.

• 9:13Connor Wood?

  It's okay.

• 9:13Brooke Averick?

  Sorry if I'm weird. My dog also died.

• 9:16Connor Wood?

  Yeah, your dog, your, your dog did die.

• 9:18Brooke Averick?

  My dog died.

• 9:19Connor Wood?

  Do you wanna go into dog now or do you wanna?

• 9:21Brooke Averick?

  It's just been, it's just been in an emotional time.

• 9:24Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 9:26Brooke Averick?

  I'm not gonna cry.

• 9:28Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 9:28Brooke Averick?

  But it is weird.

• 9:29Connor Wood?

  You can't cry.

• 9:30Brooke Averick?

  My, my, my childhood dog died and it's, it's just.

• 9:35Connor Wood?

  When it rains, it pours.

• 9:36Brooke Averick?

  When it rains, it pours. It just, it very much feels like

• 9:41Brooke Averick?

  the end of, the end of an era and ushering in a new one. And it's really scary. Like she was the last piece of, of my youth. She was, we got, I got her when I was in high school and, and it's really like that time is, is done.

• 9:54Connor Wood?

  I know that.

• 9:54Brooke Averick?

  I, I am like, it, it feels really symbolic in a heavy way.

• 9:59Connor Wood?

  That was exactly what happened. That's why I kind of didn't talk about it on, on the podcast when it happened to me. Was like, I kind of don't wanna acknowledge that in a concrete way.

• 10:08Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 10:09Connor Wood?

  With my words and put it out in the space.

• 10:13Connor Wood?

  But been there and it's not fun. So I'm sorry.

• 10:15Brooke Averick?

  It's okay. It's just like, wow, you get a dog when you're seventeen and then, and then she dies right before you turn thirty.

• 10:24Connor Wood?

  Okay, heavy, heavy, heavy, yeah.

• 10:26Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Anyway, I love you, Cleo. You're a good dog.

• 10:32Connor Wood?

  Rest in power, Cleo.

• 10:33Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, and she is. She was amazing.

• 10:38Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I, um, were we together when I talked about my, my, my first dog?

• 10:46Brooke Averick?

  The one that got hit by the bus?

• 10:47Connor Wood?

  Yeah, the school bus?

• 10:48Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 10:51Connor Wood?

  I was talking about that the other day and kind of as like an icebreaker and it doesn't like, you'll get to a space where it's like, It is weird and transformative to like have that animal represent a part of your life. And like, that's a part of you. That's like, okay, wait, that was my last like

• 11:09Connor Wood?

  keepsake of that time.

• 11:10Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 11:12Connor Wood?

  And then it will be like a memory that's like, oh, remember this was like a big

• 11:17Connor Wood?

  piece of me that I held here. And then you kind of release it in that way. And me talking about my dog getting hit by a school bus filled up with children on their way to school. That will, that's also probably pretty transformative. They probably have that memory that stayed with them too. So that's, that's Rusty's legacy, which I, in a comedic sense, I do appreciate that. He, he did that.

• 11:37Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 11:38Connor Wood?

  He, he left us in that.

• 11:39Brooke Averick?

  You know what Andrew Garfield said?

• 11:41Connor Wood?

  What did, I don't know.

• 11:42Brooke Averick?

  This is not so much about Rusty, but.

• 11:45Connor Wood?

  Rest in power, Rusty.

• 11:46Brooke Averick?

  Rest in power. I wonder if he's with Cleo.

• 11:48Connor Wood?

  100%.

• 11:50Brooke Averick?

  And Saki.

• 11:51Connor Wood?

  And Saki. Well, you know what's amazing? Really quick, before you tell us about Lewis Hamilton. What's it? Andrew Garfield.

• 11:57Brooke Averick?

  Lewis Hamilton.

• 11:58Connor Wood?

  He's a race car driver. I don't, I've never, don't keep up with it. Don't know why that. I was thinking Hamilton. Anyways. Saki dug up Rusty in the backyard.

• 12:08Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 12:10Connor Wood?

  Max dug up Saki.

• 12:14Connor Wood?

  The, the, the baton is being passed through, from the afterlife.

• 12:18Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 12:18Connor Wood?

  Which I think is true, the baton, the bone is being passed through the afterlife.

• 12:22Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 12:22Connor Wood?

  And they're tapping each other in, like that TikTok trend.

• 12:26Brooke Averick?

  That's, yeah.

• 12:29Brooke Averick?

  How beautiful.

• 12:30Connor Wood?

  Digging them up. I'm like, dad, maybe let's stop burying the dogs like in the backyard.

• 12:34Brooke Averick?

  It is genuinely the circle of life.

• 12:35Connor Wood?

  Yeah. It is. And it happens. Tell us what Woody Allen, I can't remember what his name is.

• 12:45Brooke Averick?

  You know who he is.

• 12:46Connor Wood?

  Andrew Garfield. No, I just can't remember his name right now.

• 12:48Brooke Averick?

  He said that grief is just all of the love, all the unexpressed love.

• 13:00Brooke Averick?

  For that person.

• 13:01Connor Wood?

  Hang on, I'm gonna get there. I just need to think. Grief is, they like it when you're expressing grief, it's all the Andrew Garfield's-

• 13:10Brooke Averick?

  It's just all the love that you can't express.

• 13:11Connor Wood?

  "I hope this grief stays with me because it's all the unexpressed love that I didn't get to tell her." Ooh.

• 13:18Connor Wood?

  Oh, yeah. That's good.

• 13:20Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, it is.

• 13:21Connor Wood?

  And grief looks like many things.

• 13:23Brooke Averick?

  Grief can look so different to so many people.

• 13:24Connor Wood?

  Grief could, grief could look for you like celebrating Phoebe, because that could also be a rest in power Cleo.

• 13:29Brooke Averick?

  Well, Cleo will be with me on the, during the tour, which is nice, that she'll be looking down on me.

• 13:37Connor Wood?

  That's nice.

• 13:38Brooke Averick?

  From doggy heaven.

• 13:40Connor Wood?

  I saw the craziest TikTok I've ever seen, this, this woman I follow who's-

• 13:44Brooke Averick?

  Me too, you go first.

• 13:46Connor Wood?

  Well, I'm not gonna be able to quote it, because it was like the deepest, I just commented hashtag affected me underneath her TikTok, because I wanted, if people saw it, like every time they like it, you know, you get to go back to the video. And it was, she was talking about her weekend with a coworker, and she was like, "Time is weird." Can I just play it?

• 14:04Brooke Averick?

  Sure.

• 14:05Connor Wood?

  It's, it's like, it's gonna be like a thinker, so we may have to take our time with it.

• 14:10Brooke Averick?

  I love that.

• 14:11Connor Wood?

  Yeah, well, basically, just pay attention to what she says about dogs and time passing.

• 14:17Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 14:18Connor Wood?

  Because it really was like, whoa.

• 14:21Connor Wood?

  Um, like perspective type shit. Let me pull it up, okay.

• 14:28Speaker 04

  Your weekend.

• 14:31Speaker 04

  How was your weekend? Hi. Okay, I started thinking I was just wasting time. What were you doing? Nothing. Just because you're doing nothing, doesn't mean you're wasting time. Yeah, but what is time if you don't do something with it? I don't know. Ask a dog. I read once that dogs have a faster metabolism than people, and because of that, time moves more slowly for them. No wonder they're always so hungry at dinner. Did you know that dogs smell time? They do?

• 15:00Speaker 04

  If they can't smell you anymore, that's how they know you've been gone a long time. One time I tripped and I fell in slow motion, but I hit the ground at full speed. Did it hurt? The full speed part hurt a lot. Full speed always hurts more. That's why I don't like to drive fast. That's kind of how my weekend felt. When I was doing it, it felt like slow motion, but when it was over, it felt like full speed. Maybe you should stop looking at clocks and start smelling time. Then I'd never make it back to my desk. I know.

• 15:32Connor Wood?

  So I can't remember how that related.

• 15:34Brooke Averick?

  That's a, that's a tough one.

• 15:36Connor Wood?

  It's a thinker.

• 15:37Brooke Averick?

  To even think about teasing apart.

• 15:40Connor Wood?

  Right. What part?

• 15:41Brooke Averick?

  Especially the part when she said that the weekend was in slow motion, but then when it was over, it was full speed ahead.

• 15:48Connor Wood?

  I think she

• 15:49Brooke Averick?

  Looking back.

• 15:50Connor Wood?

  Said that about falling.

• 15:51Brooke Averick?

  No, she said it about the weekend when her weekend was in slow motion. But then at the end, it was, it was full speed. Which that I don't get.

• 15:59Connor Wood?

  It's just like on, on Sunday, you're like, oh my God, I was looking forward to the weekend and now it's Sunday at 4pm. And it's like, this was like the weekend and now it's over.

• 16:10Brooke Averick?

  I don't think I've taken, I took anything away from that.

• 16:12Connor Wood?

  Okay. I thought it was interesting that she said that dogs metabolize faster, so time moves slower. So they live like a very full life on a shorter

• 16:20Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 16:21Connor Wood?

  Timeline than us. And they smell time. So like, they smell it based on whatever scent that you leave.

• 16:27Brooke Averick?

  That makes sense that time has been moving really fast for me because I have an extremely slow metabolism.

• 16:32Connor Wood?

  Oh, I was like, are you, do you have congestion?

• 16:35Brooke Averick?

  No, I have a slow metabolism.

• 16:38Connor Wood?

  Maybe you should start smelling time.

• 16:39Brooke Averick?

  I'm gonna try.

• 16:41Connor Wood?

  Yeah. It is a It is an interesting one. Like when things stop smelling, you're like, oh, that much time has passed that like, my car doesn't smell like that rotisserie chicken I ate last week.

• 16:52Brooke Averick?

  Well, sometimes you can smell time in the sense that smells transport you. Like when I, there's this one hand sanitizer that we used in third grade that is just like,

• 17:03Brooke Averick?

  The most, the biggest smell in my life, I think, would be that hand sanitizer. And I remember I smelled it once in 12th grade again. And it was, I was just had the most existential pit in my stomach. Like, I can't believe that all that time has passed. And I like, felt like a third grade, like, I was just so aware of time. When I smelled that hand sanitizer again. If I were to smell that hand sanitizer now, I would drop dead.

• 17:29Connor Wood?

  That's how I feel about the hand sanitizer that everyone seemed to have during COVID. That was just like 99% alcohol. Do you remember that? They used to have these big sacks.

• 17:38Brooke Averick?

  It wasn't Purell, it was just off.

• 17:39Connor Wood?

  No, it was like, this crazy hands. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? The like, big sacks of 100% alcohol we used to put on, like, before eating. I smell that now.

• 17:54Brooke Averick?

  This hand sanitizer, it actually smelled so good. It was this large, blue, foamy bottle. Similar to the soap that we just put all over ourselves during the ad reads. It was, Izzy, would you mind looking up large bottle of blue, foamy hand sanitizer for schools?

• 18:14Connor Wood?

  That should do it.

• 18:14Brooke Averick?

  I'm sure it could be used anywhere else as well, but...

• 18:19Connor Wood?

  Oh.

• 18:20Brooke Averick?

  No, they don't, they don't.

• 18:21Connor Wood?

  No?

• 18:21Brooke Averick?

  No, it's the, like, the inside is blue foam.

• 18:29Connor Wood?

  Summer breeze makes me feel nice.

• 18:31Brooke Averick?

  I think it's dead. It died with my youth and it's up there with Cleo.

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• 20:07Connor Wood?

  There was one that I was, all the girls always had this Japanese cherry blossom from

• 20:13Brooke Averick?

  Yup.

• 20:13Connor Wood?

  Bath, Bed Bath & Body Works.

• 20:15Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 20:15Connor Wood?

  Was it?

• 20:16Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 20:17Connor Wood?

  And I was so allergic to it, but I really liked the smell. I break out in hives, but I knew, there was one time when I really like, one of your nightmares couldn't take this test and I was like, hand me your Japanese cherry blossom Purell. I put it on, hives, home.

• 20:30Brooke Averick?

  Yup.

• 20:30Connor Wood?

  And it was a Friday, test next week.

• 20:32Brooke Averick?

  It's so nice.

• 20:33Connor Wood?

  Study up.

• 20:34Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I remember once I had horrible acne and I was a camp counselor and the director was like, are you okay? You're breaking out in hives. And I was like, no, I think I need to go home. So I got to go home for my acne.

• 20:51Connor Wood?

  Oh.

• 20:53Brooke Averick?

  It's fine.

• 20:53Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I didn't.

• 20:55Brooke Averick?

  You said oh.

• 20:56Connor Wood?

  Oh, I mean, it was, yeah, it made me sad.

• 20:57Brooke Averick?

  Oh, why? I got to go home.

• 21:03Connor Wood?

  You know, it makes me sad when I think about.

• 21:05Brooke Averick?

  What?

• 21:07Connor Wood?

  I wanted to be cool so bad and I think it was junior high and I had really bad allergies. I still do. Pollen really affects me. I was pretty self-conscious about my body. I couldn't touch grass and I was, so I would put where, I had to always be on shirts because I was allergic to the grass. And I was like, that's God. God's real and he's with me here that I can't take my shirt off. You know, just play shirts and skins. I was always shirts. And.

• 21:32Connor Wood?

  It was 4:20 and I knew a bunch of guys had smoked weed before school.

• 21:39Connor Wood?

  And I took some grass from outside and I rubbed it on my face and I made my eyes swell up completely, almost shut.

• 21:44Brooke Averick?

  Cause you wanted to look like you smoked too.

• 21:47Connor Wood?

  And I was in so much physical pain, I could barely see, but I was like, as long as they think, and they thought I was, they actually, I passed the point of being, oh, that's cool. You burn.

• 21:58Brooke Averick?

  To like, you can't.

• 21:59Connor Wood?

  To like, you are too crazy for us. Like, we're like, not comfortable being around you or talking to you. I was like, what up, fella? My throat's closing up and I was like, I'm, this is sick.

• 22:10Brooke Averick?

  Sorry, I'm so stoned.

• 22:11Connor Wood?

  I have the munchies.

• 22:12Brooke Averick?

  My throat's closing up.

• 22:13Connor Wood?

  Where's the cheerio? Like, did you guys bring any food? It was cra- it was really uncomfortable.

• 22:18Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I know that sounds super uncomfortable.

• 22:20Connor Wood?

  And I didn't go home, so I was like, I want everybody to see me at every one of my classes. I'm not kidding, like, I think this, there was one side of my face where I genuinely did have, it had spread down my face, cause anytime I would touch that, like, fresh grass, that fresh cut grass.

• 22:36Connor Wood?

  Swollen.

• 22:36Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. I used to wish so badly that I had more allergies.

• 22:43Connor Wood?

  Have you gotten tested for allergies?

• 22:45Brooke Averick?

  Yes, I'm only really allergic to oak trees, which like, that doesn't do much for me.

• 22:51Connor Wood?

  When I went in for this last rash I had, I don't think I ever came here when I had this last rash, my most recent rash.

• 22:59Connor Wood?

  They took me in, I was like, I need, like, a shot, I need like a steroid shot, this is insane. And they took me in, they're like, we're just gonna test you to see what you're allergic for. And they take this, have you seen this thing? It's this big, it's the size of like a MacBook, but long. And they, and I don't have like a ton of real estate on my forearm, I have like pretty, it's just pretty much like skin over my whatever bone. And so, but they, it took up my entire arm and it's like a grid and they push it and they inject you with everything.

• 23:30Brooke Averick?

  No, I had single needles when I got one.

• 23:32Connor Wood?

  Oh my, it's just like one big push.

• 23:34Brooke Averick?

  Did it hurt?

• 23:35Connor Wood?

  And.

• 23:37Connor Wood?

  It didn't hurt.

• 23:37Brooke Averick?

  That reminds me of that toy that you used to like press in, you know, that was all those like.

• 23:42Connor Wood?

  It was like that.

• 23:42Brooke Averick?

  Not needles, but like adjacent, almost like screws.

• 23:46Connor Wood?

  It was like that. It pricked and prodded me and then my whole arm swelled up and they go, oh, you're allergic to about all these.

• 23:52Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 23:52Connor Wood?

  And they're like, do not itch it. Do not itch it. This arm now double the size of my other arm.

• 23:56Brooke Averick?

  What was it all just like stuff you can find in nature?

• 23:58Connor Wood?

  Oak tree pollen. I was like, that's why I'm here. Like, I know I'm allergic to that. I need a shot in my neck.

• 24:04Brooke Averick?

  Where do you, where are oak trees? Like, why are they such a big offender? Are they just everywhere?

• 24:08Connor Wood?

  I couldn't tell you.

• 24:09Brooke Averick?

  Like, I couldn't pick out enough trees.

• 24:10Connor Wood?

  Can we see an oak, Izzy?

• 24:13Connor Wood?

  Okay, so that's just like every tree I've ever seen.

• 24:16Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 24:17Connor Wood?

  Oh, no, they're gorgeous and they're beautiful. Look at, look at the way they're built. Oh, yeah.

• 24:23Brooke Averick?

  Wow, the mighty oak. That's like sad that like, that's like the strongest tree and you say like the mighty oak and like we're so weak. We're allergic to it.

• 24:33Connor Wood?

  Oh, well, it's just like reminding you constantly. Remember the oak.

• 24:37Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, remember who, who made you. Remember where you came from. Remember who's boss.

• 24:41Connor Wood?

  Remember your roots.

• 24:42Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 24:42Connor Wood?

  And remember who's Papa. It's the mighty oak. The mighty oak is Papa.

• 24:47Brooke Averick?

  So, oh, from Maine to Texas. Okay.

• 24:52Brooke Averick?

  It's found in every US state except Alaska and Hawaii. Idaho has native oaks.

• 24:59Brooke Averick?

  Do you feel like you're, like your allergies are really bad when you're in Idaho?

• 25:03Connor Wood?

  Everywhere. At some season in every area, I'm allergic to something.

• 25:06Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 25:07Connor Wood?

  I think California has like really, really bad pollen. Pollen's a big one for me. Pollen.

• 25:12Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, well, pollen will get you.

• 25:15Connor Wood?

  But like swelling of the face and throat and ears and neck.

• 25:18Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 25:20Connor Wood?

  It's whatever.

• 25:20Brooke Averick?

  Do you take any medication?

• 25:22Connor Wood?

  I forget.

• 25:23Brooke Averick?

  You should.

• 25:23Connor Wood?

  I know. I have Zyrtec in my wallet.

• 25:25Brooke Averick?

  Zyrtec.

• 25:26Connor Wood?

  It looks like I have a condom 24/7. It's a big, it's a Zyrtec.

• 25:30Brooke Averick?

  It's hot.

• 25:30Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 25:32Connor Wood?

  Like, check it out. It's a Zyrtec that I won't take. It's for an emergency because it either, it either, I can't, I can't remember. It either keeps me up at night or it makes me tired and I can't remember which one it is.

• 25:41Brooke Averick?

  Probably sleepy.

• 25:43Connor Wood?

  Can we double check? This is a learning episode for, for me and my allergies and my body.

• 25:47Brooke Averick?

  I feel like just, because it's like Benadryl makes you sleepy, so.

• 25:50Connor Wood?

  Zyrtec can make you drowsy.

• 25:52Brooke Averick?

  Zyrtec?

• 25:53Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 25:56Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, take it before bed.

• 25:58Connor Wood?

  But I'm not allergic.

• 25:59Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 25:59Connor Wood?

  I'm asleep.

• 26:00Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. It's really hard.

• 26:04Connor Wood?

  I can't get over me showing you that video thinking I was like showing you Carl Jung like groundbreaking information and I didn't even understand at the same time. I must have been really tired when I watched that.

• 26:13Brooke Averick?

  Oh, the TikTok that I saw on the way here was so upsetting and I would never, truly never mom shame anyone except for this woman.

• 26:21Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 26:23Brooke Averick?

  She like, and she thought she like did something with this. This video was set to like lullaby like sweet music and she, it was, the caption was like, I have a metaphobia. So like, like a fear of throwing up.

• 26:37Connor Wood?

  Oh.

• 26:37Brooke Averick?

  So, um, my husband is taking care of our son with the stomach virus outside and it was her filming her husband and son on a mattress in the driveway. And he like had a like bucket and like blankets next to him. Can you imagine?

• 26:54Connor Wood?

  You go outside.

• 26:55Brooke Averick?

  Your child is sick as a dog, stomach virus, which is traumatizing, especially when you're young. You put him in the driveway?

• 27:02Connor Wood?

  Guess who's gonna get a metaphobia, by the way? The guy throwing up in a bucket in the driveway?

• 27:07Brooke Averick?

  Like, I, I cannot like that. I got so upset at that TikTok and I almost commented and I've never, like, I've never done anything like that.

• 27:15Connor Wood?

  Hashtag affected me?

• 27:15Brooke Averick?

  And I didn't comment, but like, she really thought she was like,

• 27:22Brooke Averick?

  did something.

• 27:23Connor Wood?

  Yeah, that would, that'd be one of those you fall asleep being like,

• 27:29Connor Wood?

  banger post.

• 27:30Brooke Averick?

  Got it.

• 27:30Connor Wood?

  Wake up and it's like, oh.

• 27:31Brooke Averick?

  And all of the comments were like, did you, like, I can't believe you thought you were gonna get like anyone that agreed with you. And the fact that she's like keeping it up because it's like so viral like is so embarrassing. Like, I just like have it out for this, for this woman, I think. And I think we all should.

• 27:48Connor Wood?

  That's gonna be a core memory. I remember the first time.

• 27:51Brooke Averick?

  Core memory of when your mom made you throw up in the driveway?

• 27:54Connor Wood?

  Yeah, you're, I bet that this young man's gonna be very, very like close to his dad and not remember it entirely why we're so like trauma bonded as if we've been deployed together and it's like, because you were deployed to the driveway with your mattress and your bucket. I remember when I.

• 28:10Connor Wood?

  So you wanted allergies, I wanted to throw up.

• 28:14Brooke Averick?

  I can't imagine in a million years.

• 28:19Connor Wood?

  Yep, and I had some stomach bug. And I threw up on our tile floor. And I was laughing because I was like, that's insane. I've always wanted to throw up. I'm like, throwing up is real? It was like-

• 28:30Brooke Averick?

  That was your first time?

• 28:31Connor Wood?

  For me, yeah, you don't forget your first time.

• 28:33Brooke Averick?

  No, you don't.

• 28:34Connor Wood?

  I, throwing up for me was like, that's something they do in the movies. They throw up. And then they slip in it and then someone else throws it. I threw up on the ground and I was laughing so hard, like how, like how we laugh. Here, you know, like couldn't catch my breath and then on the breath in from laughing, I threw up again. And then, then I was like, still kind of laughing and looking around. I was like, haha. And then I threw up again and I was like, no, no. And I was in this cycle of like, then I couldn't catch my breath and I'm just vomiting and it's puddle. And then it got really real for my whole family. They're like, oh, we gotta like, we gotta stop the spillage. Cause it was like vomit everywhere. And then I went from like crying laughing to like genuinely crying to like sobbing. And then anytime I would get a breath and it would just vomit out.

• 29:14Brooke Averick?

  Ooh, okay, let's move on from that.

• 29:16Connor Wood?

  Okay, but no bucket, no problem. My mom lets me throw up inside the house.

• 29:20Brooke Averick?

  She, she's a great mom.

• 29:22Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 29:23Brooke Averick?

  I carried around a bucket for years.

• 29:25Connor Wood?

  I know, your bucket.

• 29:26Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. I wish like that's something that I had saved.

• 29:30Connor Wood?

  What do you mean?

• 29:30Brooke Averick?

  I saved my bucket, you know?

• 29:33Connor Wood?

  I think it's good to move on from, from the, your bucket, you know, like maybe.

• 29:39Brooke Averick?

  It just could have been a nice keepsake, you know, I could have bedazzled it.

• 29:42Connor Wood?

  That would, yeah, I think that, I feel like it might bring back some, it might bring things back up, kind of like vomit wise.

• 29:50Brooke Averick?

  Maybe.

• 29:51Connor Wood?

  Like a conditioned response. You see the bucket. I need to barf into that.

• 29:56Brooke Averick?

  Do you mind if I change the subject real quick?

• 29:58Connor Wood?

  No.

• 29:59Brooke Averick?

  It's just like something that I don't even know if I can talk about. Cause of, I don't know if I have the mental health to talk about off campus right now.

• 30:08Connor Wood?

  I have stuff too from off campus. If you want to go there now or do you want to go there later?

• 30:13Brooke Averick?

  I mean, I think just like, let's rip the Band-Aid off and go there now.

• 30:16Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 30:17Brooke Averick?

  This is the last thing I needed.

• 30:19Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 30:20Brooke Averick?

  Is to feel this way about a fictional character. This is the last thing that I needed. Because you know what? There's a fine line between pleasure and pain.

• 30:30Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 30:30Brooke Averick?

  And I am riding that line watching this show.

• 30:32Connor Wood?

  I've only two episodes in. Which character are you feeling this for?

• 30:35Brooke Averick?

  Talking about Garrett Graham.

• 30:36Connor Wood?

  The main guy?

• 30:37Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 30:37Connor Wood?

  Okay. So I'm two episodes in.

• 30:40Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. I'm seven in. I haven't watched the last one yet because I'm saving it for tonight.

• 30:44Connor Wood?

  I'm feeling really proud of myself because I finally saw, I, I heard and I saw people talking about this and I was like, I want to get involved.

• 30:50Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 30:52Connor Wood?

  I want, can I say a couple of things like just genuinely really quick?

• 30:56Brooke Averick?

  You may.

• 30:56Connor Wood?

  Okay. I kind of wrote them down in bullet points and I want to make sure I, and don't be offended by these. I'm two episodes in. Okay?

• 31:02Brooke Averick?

  No, I won't be offended. I also like, I'm not like, wow, this is like the most amazing show. It's just like, I'm in love with this man and like, I'll probably die from it.

• 31:12Connor Wood?

  I have some ideas.

• 31:13Brooke Averick?

  Is he, have you been watching? You don't like spare yourself.

• 31:18Connor Wood?

  I am enjoying the, the press junkets there on more than I did with like any recent show like Heat Rivalry. I didn't really get any like, but I like, I like.

• 31:27Brooke Averick?

  Belmont's freaking amazing, isn't he?

• 31:29Connor Wood?

  Which one's Belmont?

• 31:30Brooke Averick?

  Garrett.

• 31:30Connor Wood?

  Oh, I like, I like, they're pretty entertaining to me and they're press junkets.

• 31:34Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 31:35Connor Wood?

  I want to say something really quick.

• 31:36Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, say it.

• 31:37Connor Wood?

  Um, jump in if you need to, but I have, I have my, I have my own thoughts here.

• 31:42Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 31:42Connor Wood?

  And this is like not a personal.

• 31:47Connor Wood?

  It's personal to me.

• 31:47Brooke Averick?

  You're fine. I don't feel like, I'm not like.

• 31:50Connor Wood?

  It's not like me talking about.

• 31:52Brooke Averick?

  It's not, it's not like you talking about like.

• 31:54Connor Wood?

  Hudson Valley and how he dresses and how I don't like it.

• 31:57Brooke Averick?

  No, this is just like, I'm not like, I didn't read the books. I'm not like, this is the most amazing story in the world. I am just in love with this man so much that I feel really, really sick.

• 32:08Connor Wood?

  I, okay. Here's, here's how I feel about it.

• 32:11Brooke Averick?

  It's just hard because he's fictional and a college hockey player written by a woman and he will never exist, never has. I'll never experience anything like it and I never will. And it just doesn't exist in general.

• 32:22Connor Wood?

  Yet.

• 32:23Brooke Averick?

  Mm-hmm. I don't think it ever could.

• 32:25Connor Wood?

  That's closed minded thinking.

• 32:28Brooke Averick?

  All.

• 32:29Connor Wood?

  Which is not like you. You have a very open mind.

• 32:31Brooke Averick?

  Well, all book boyfriends.

• 32:35Brooke Averick?

  99% of book boyfriends are written by women. And that's really scary.

• 32:39Connor Wood?

  It's an idyllic thing.

• 32:40Brooke Averick?

  It's really scary.

• 32:41Connor Wood?

  That's a good transition into what I'm about to say.

• 32:43Brooke Averick?

  Okay, cuz I'm feeling like, again, fine line between pleasure and pain. I think I'm feeling more pain from this.

• 32:48Connor Wood?

  Okay. I'm jumping in.

• 32:50Brooke Averick?

  Okay, jump.

• 32:53Connor Wood?

  It kind of almost feels wrong watching this. I feel almost a little bit uncomfortable because the acting and the storyline is very Hallmark movie. And then the soft core porn starts.

• 33:05Brooke Averick?

  Sure.

• 33:06Connor Wood?

  And I'm pulled out and it kind of feels like I wasn't supposed to see this and it's on the wrong channel. Like High School Musical, the musical, the porno.

• 33:13Brooke Averick?

  Okay, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.

• 33:15Connor Wood?

  And I'm thinking, we're in such a space where this is hitting so often now that I want to almost maybe not encourage people. Maybe we maybe watch porn. And hang on, hang on, before you even say that. I think that would bring things back and I want to say now. And maybe if you're someone that does porn. If you start making it more serialized and create some character arcs.

• 33:45Connor Wood?

  Protagonists, antagonists, you may find some major success very quickly. And if you're a theater kid that has an open mind, you're leaving a lot of money on the table here. I'm seeing a huge opportunity across the board, across many industries. And I think if you are in one. And don't see yourself in the other, maybe take a step back and think about it.

• 34:06Brooke Averick?

  Wait, you're saying theater kids should start doing porn?

• 34:11Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 34:12Brooke Averick?

  This isn't porn.

• 34:13Connor Wood?

  Wait, I just shrugged. I know, I'm just saying, we're getting to a place where there's so much of this in everything. And I think that's why it's doing really well because I think that. The Hallmark thing with mixed with this is like a hybrid of something we've never seen. And I'm saying there's a, there's a huge open market for just like people that would watch some really good acting with some sex.

• 34:32Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, that, well, let's.

• 34:34Connor Wood?

  Sex sells.

• 34:35Brooke Averick?

  Let's keep it in these TV shows because I think what people are connecting to is how these sex scenes and intimacy scenes further the story and how they inform the characters that we fall in love with.

• 34:48Connor Wood?

  I'm, what I was thinking is that both are taking a hit on each other and it's like bringing the, the level of the showdown. And I just want to say like for me, I'm watching it and I'm like, I'm enjoying the show. I'm not like really, really attached and I do think that it's like very digestible, but I think that it cannibalizes on the storyline and the acting to have the level of like sex scenes that are, it's, I don't know. That's what I think.

• 35:15Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I definitely, I don't agree. I've really preferred, preferred some of those scenes. Yeah.

• 35:20Connor Wood?

  Yeah. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying there's an opening on both ends of the spectrum. I just think that for like a TV show.

• 35:30Brooke Averick?

  Sure.

• 35:31Connor Wood?

  If you want to really connect with people, but I guess like for these.

• 35:34Brooke Averick?

  Hey, I'm connected.

• 35:35Connor Wood?

  I know you're connecting.

• 35:36Brooke Averick?

  I'm pretty damn connected.

• 35:37Connor Wood?

  I, I, I can't finish my thought because I didn't then get all the way out, but like I, I think that someone will understand what I'm saying.

• 35:43Brooke Averick?

  We'll, we'll circle back once you finish the beginning sequence of episode five.

• 35:48Connor Wood?

  Perfect.

• 35:50Brooke Averick?

  I just.

• 35:50Connor Wood?

  It won't be for a long time because I won't see you.

• 35:53Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I won't see you. But hey, I have no doubt in my mind. I'll still be thinking about it.

• 35:58Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 35:58Brooke Averick?

  Come a month.

• 35:59Connor Wood?

  Perfect.

• 35:59Brooke Averick?

  So we're actually all good there.

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• 37:30Brooke Averick?

  I just feel so upset and sick because they really like the Garrett Graham is like the perfect man and I'm just so aware of the fact that he doesn't exist and that I had I my college experience really wasn't like this. Um.

• 37:50Connor Wood?

  And I keep forgetting it's college because they're so high school to me.

• 37:52Brooke Averick?

  It's hard to be in love with a fictional college student as a woman approaching 30. It's harder than I would like it to be.

• 38:00Connor Wood?

  When they.

• 38:01Brooke Averick?

  Fine line between pleasure and pain.

• 38:02Connor Wood?

  When they were drinking, I was like, whoa, this is like euphoria. Cause I forgot they were in college and not high school because it gives the acting and the storyline is really gives high school.

• 38:11Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, it's well, it's college, which is not that much of a difference, but.

• 38:15Connor Wood?

  I think, I don't know, it just didn't, it doesn't like feel, I'm only.

• 38:18Brooke Averick?

  I think, yeah, as I'm watching this, I'm just like so painfully aware that like it's not real and it never will be and. I'm hurt. I'm physically hurting, but I'm also, I can't get enough.

• 38:32Connor Wood?

  That's kind of how I feel when I watch like Harry Potter and then I turn it off. I'm like, oh.

• 38:35Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I want to be a wizard.

• 38:36Connor Wood?

  I'm in my hotel, just like eating Chipotle in my bed.

• 38:39Brooke Averick?

  That's, that is how I'm feeling about this.

• 38:41Connor Wood?

  Yeah, my life's like a little bit different than.

• 38:44Brooke Averick?

  That is really how I'm feeling about this.

• 38:45Connor Wood?

  Than that because it's fictional.

• 38:46Brooke Averick?

  Now.

• 38:47Connor Wood?

  Fantasy.

• 38:47Brooke Averick?

  While I'm having a relationship, a really strong attachment to the character of Garrett Graham on screen. Off screen, I'm having a really strong relationship to the young man who plays his friend, John Logan.

• 39:00Connor Wood?

  I don't know.

• 39:01Brooke Averick?

  He's the one that Hannah kissed after Garrett, you know, and she, they were like making out. She's like, no, I don't.

• 39:08Connor Wood?

  In the gym?

• 39:08Brooke Averick?

  Locker room, like I, I don't blush. Yeah, him.

• 39:11Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 39:12Brooke Averick?

  Antonio Cipriano. He is.

• 39:15Connor Wood?

  Italian.

• 39:16Brooke Averick?

  Yep. They're both Italian. Belmonte as well. And he's a theater kid. He was in this musical called In Pieces. There's this song called Bloom. Y'all have to go listen right now. It's going to be the number one on my Spotify rap. I'm so sick. He's so talented and he dated Renee Rapp. And he is, yeah, he is who she wrote that song in the kitchen, in the living room, dancing in the kitchen alone.

• 39:45Connor Wood?

  Oh, wow.

• 39:46Brooke Averick?

  So that's, so think about that for a second.

• 39:49Connor Wood?

  I am.

• 39:51Brooke Averick?

  Think about how, how powerful the emotions have to be to write a song like that. I, I haven't necessarily ever listened to the song in full and now I can't because I'm too, it's too charged for me. But just, that's a lot of lore.

• 40:10Connor Wood?

  That's good to know. I didn't know that.

• 40:11Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 40:11Connor Wood?

  That'll be good to know.

• 40:12Brooke Averick?

  So keep that in mind moving forward. I wish they didn't give him like a blowout on the show. Cause he has this really gorgeous curly hair and they are kind of like blowing out his bangs in a way I'm not comfortable with on the show. I can't, none of these pictures are really doing, like, he has really curly hair. And then the show, they like, he's sweaty in these pictures, so it's like, the curls are there. Maybe the first one is he? No, that's a good one. I just, in the show, they're more, he has more of a blowout. In the show, he has more of a blowout.

• 40:44Connor Wood?

  We'll just pay attention when we watch the show.

• 40:45Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, and, so I'm looking forward to his season as well. And, yeah, I just feel pretty sick about the whole thing.

• 40:55Connor Wood?

  I can't help you.

• 40:56Brooke Averick?

  No, no one can. I'm so far beyond help. And like, I guess this is what people were feeling like with the summer I turned pretty.

• 41:02Connor Wood?

  I didn't watch that either.

• 41:05Brooke Averick?

  I thought I was a lesbian during that. I'm being so serious, because everyone was like, oh my god. These boys, and I was just like, I'm not, I'm, I think, I must be gay, because like, this is something that I should enjoy, just based off of everything about me, and the fact that I'm not, and like, the way that my mind works, is like, I'm gay.

• 41:28Brooke Averick?

  But I think the problem here was like, these, they're, these two young men, like, and I don't like to use the word pussy, because...

• 41:36Connor Wood?

  What were you gonna say?

• 41:37Brooke Averick?

  Especially when like, referring to like, a weak man, because like, obviously, like, if you're thinking about the like, vagina of it all.

• 41:47Brooke Averick?

  Like, I don't want to equate like, that to weakness, but like, these two are pussies, like, genuinely through and through. Garrett Graham is a man, despite him being in college, and, and completely fictional. So that is the disparity there. It wasn't that I was gay, I said, these two are pussies, and, may, who knows? Who knows what'll happen?

• 42:09Brooke Averick?

  With, with future shows, maybe I'll be gay again, but right now...

• 42:12Connor Wood?

  Super cute, not a match.

• 42:13Brooke Averick?

  So not a match. And I feel even in more confident in, Summer Turned Pretty was not my show, now that I've found my show.

• 42:23Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 42:25Brooke Averick?

  And I think I'm now realizing, like, this is another reason, like, why I loved Heated Rivalry so much, is like, I don't feel this type of pain, like, I didn't, that's, that story couldn't have happened to me. You know, whereas like, it's easy to convince myself, like, with Off Campus, because it's a straight romance, like, this could have been me, and it's not, it never will be. So I think there's not this like, pain when I'm watching Heated Rivalry, that I'm experiencing this pain with a straight romance that I don't prefer.

• 42:52Connor Wood?

  I just can't believe this show is having enough

• 42:53Brooke Averick?

  I know, I'm like so sick. I'm like so sick.

• 42:56Connor Wood?

  Because it is genuinely a Hallmark

• 42:58Brooke Averick?

  I know, I'm, it's, I'm not saying it's, I'm not saying it's even like an amazing TV show. It's this specific character and like the relationship. Just everything about him.

• 43:08Connor Wood?

  You wanna fuck the trope.

• 43:10Brooke Averick?

  I'm, I love a trope. I just like wanna romance is done well. And if they create a fictional man of this caliber.

• 43:20Connor Wood?

  Yeah, we just got to the bottom of it. It's, it's

• 43:22Brooke Averick?

  It's like so painful for me.

• 43:23Connor Wood?

  I get it.

• 43:25Brooke Averick?

  I will never find anyone like this because he does not exist.

• 43:29Connor Wood?

  Well, you're not in college.

• 43:32Brooke Averick?

  I, that's what I'm saying.

• 43:34Connor Wood?

  Working at, working six, nine to five.

• 43:35Brooke Averick?

  That's the, that's the frickin' problem.

• 43:37Connor Wood?

  She could not work at more places.

• 43:39Brooke Averick?

  No, she couldn't.

• 43:40Connor Wood?

  Like, no wonder she's seeing him all the time. You work everywhere on campus. What, I have not seen her back in the locker room even once. She's at the diner. And she's tutoring and like, no wonder their schedules just aren't a match.

• 43:57Connor Wood?

  She reminds me, by the way, when she puts on her apron, there's a video, like an OG video of a, of a girl that works in, at like a fast food restaurant. She goes, and it like pulls her

• 44:09Connor Wood?

  boobs up. Can we pull that? Is he, do you know what I'm talking about? While Brooke stares blankly at me like, where are you going now? Like, I need you to, can we pull that up? Do you know what I'm talking about? Well, type in, um, apron boobs, video TikTok.

• 44:26Brooke Averick?

  This should be good. Girl tightening apron pizza hut.

• 44:29Connor Wood?

  Thank you. That's what I'm looking for. This is her getting ready to serve him coffee even though she's late.

• 44:34Brooke Averick?

  They're, they're blurring out.

• 44:35Connor Wood?

  No, no, that's not her. No one

• 44:38Brooke Averick?

  You see her?

• 44:38Connor Wood?

  It is that first video. It's just, she's, this, this girl is saying, I'll never be her. It's, we can watch the first one and then wait until the edit cuts.

• 44:49Connor Wood?

  This is, cause I'll never be him. This girl.

• 44:53Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 44:54Connor Wood?

  That's her getting ready to serve him breakfast.

• 44:57Brooke Averick?

  Do you know that the actress that plays Hannah is 19?

• 45:00Connor Wood?

  Whoa. That's awesome. So she's, she's performing in a role that she literally could be experiencing in real life.

• 45:09Brooke Averick?

  She could be.

• 45:10Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 45:10Brooke Averick?

  Also, like, the girlfriends of these men are so, so strong.

• 45:17Connor Wood?

  Compartmentalization.

• 45:19Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. As much as I've always wanted to date an actor, I could never date an actor.

• 45:22Connor Wood?

  I mean, it goes back. We have this conversation.

• 45:24Brooke Averick?

  I do. I have to date a hockey player. I'm really serious. I think it's always been an athlete.

• 45:28Connor Wood?

  That's great.

• 45:29Brooke Averick?

  I've always said that.

• 45:29Connor Wood?

  Perfect. TikTok, do your thang.

• 45:34Brooke Averick?

  So depressed.

• 45:36Connor Wood?

  No, it's great.

• 45:38Brooke Averick?

  It's not. It's not great.

• 45:39Connor Wood?

  It's great to have something that you care about and you can re-watch.

• 45:43Brooke Averick?

  I'm not re-watching this.

• 45:44Connor Wood?

  Well, you have a last.

• 45:45Brooke Averick?

  You have a booger now hanging out of your nose.

• 45:47Connor Wood?

  I know. Okay. I'm just trying to get us from point A to point being done with off-campus conversation. Like, if it takes a booger being out, then that's fine. Okay. This is a good time to throw in right now that the Brooke and Connor cooking video is out on YouTube. I'd love if everyone went and watched it. We had a really, that was really fun. Something about us in a kitchen, just like, it really brings out some real, is there any?

• 46:08Brooke Averick?

  It reminds me of Antonio.

• 46:09Connor Wood?

  No. No. Something about us in a kitchen, it is just like, we're funny in a kitchen.

• 46:15Brooke Averick?

  I was having a really hard time talking and cooking.

• 46:18Connor Wood?

  It was fun.

• 46:20Brooke Averick?

  That's not what I said.

• 46:21Connor Wood?

  What'd you say?

• 46:29Brooke Averick?

  I said, I was having a really hard time talking and cooking.

• 46:33Connor Wood?

  Oh, it was hard.

• 46:34Brooke Averick?

  And then you said, "It was fun."

• 46:37Connor Wood?

  That's, you hear what you want to hear. I had fun. It was a good time.

• 46:43Brooke Averick?

  No, it was so much fun.

• 46:46Brooke Averick?

  It was a challenge.

• 46:47Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I enjoyed it. Please go watch it. It was really, really fun. Thank you to Channing for.

• 46:52Brooke Averick?

  She's so good.

• 46:53Connor Wood?

  She was.

• 46:54Brooke Averick?

  She definitely stole the show.

• 46:55Connor Wood?

  Always does. So does Tristan.

• 46:57Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 46:57Connor Wood?

  When they step in.

• 46:58Brooke Averick?

  They're co-dealers.

• 46:59Connor Wood?

  They are.

• 47:01Connor Wood?

  So I'm self-conscious now.

• 47:03Brooke Averick?

  About your book?

• 47:03Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 47:04Brooke Averick?

  You got it. I watched it come up.

• 47:05Connor Wood?

  Every time.

• 47:06Brooke Averick?

  From your nose and on your finger.

• 47:07Connor Wood?

  Oh, good.

• 47:08Brooke Averick?

  That's a good way to pull me from Garrett Graham.

• 47:10Connor Wood?

  Good. Now I know. I know what to do.

• 47:14Connor Wood?

  It's just like hard to move forward.

• 47:18Brooke Averick?

  It's done.

• 47:18Connor Wood?

  From Booger Gate.

• 47:19Brooke Averick?

  It's all done.

• 47:21Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 47:24Connor Wood?

  What was I gonna say? I was in Milwaukee this weekend. I'm just trying to get us somewhere.

• 47:27Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Why were you in Milwaukee?

• 47:29Connor Wood?

  I had a show. It was really great. It was great. I got to spend some time in Chicago too. Like, I love Chicago.

• 47:34Brooke Averick?

  I love Chicago, but only from like late May to October.

• 47:38Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I forgot that it's bad, but I like, before my flight, was it yesterday I flew in? No, day before. Before my flight, I jumped in the lake and I was just got out and I was like.

• 47:49Brooke Averick?

  You were in Chicago?

• 47:50Connor Wood?

  Flew out of Chicago because Milwaukee's a few minutes away.

• 47:53Brooke Averick?

  Got it.

• 47:53Connor Wood?

  But that's why I was supposed to come in that night.

• 47:55Brooke Averick?

  What was the temperature in Chicago?

• 47:57Connor Wood?

  It was 80 degrees.

• 47:58Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 47:58Connor Wood?

  Yeah. It was really nice, but I love Chicago. Chicago is kind of like this fake city to me. No offense to people who live in Chicago. I love Chicago, but it's like, it not being New York or LA and that's like my two, the two cities to me is like New York, LA. And you go to Chicago, it's like, what are you?

• 48:12Brooke Averick?

  No, if Chicago didn't have that weather, it would be the most popular city.

• 48:19Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 48:20Brooke Averick?

  It's amazing.

• 48:22Connor Wood?

  Like, New York to me is like boy, LA to me is girl, and then Chicago to me is like.

• 48:27Brooke Averick?

  Non-binary?

• 48:28Connor Wood?

  Non-binary. Chicago, the non-binary city.

• 48:32Brooke Averick?

  Interesting.

• 48:32Connor Wood?

  Yeah. But I love that. I just adore walking around Chicago.

• 48:36Brooke Averick?

  No, I love Chicago.

• 48:39Connor Wood?

  I might join, which is really scary to me. When I was, when I was there, there was a lot of run clubs and I was like, this is a city I would probably join a run club in.

• 48:45Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 48:45Connor Wood?

  Yeah, which is disgusting to say.

• 48:47Brooke Averick?

  It is.

• 48:48Connor Wood?

  It's a, I can't believe I just said that publicly. I could see my, I could see myself in a run club in Chicago.

• 48:55Brooke Averick?

  What?

• 48:55Connor Wood?

  And don't invite me to do, I'm not gonna actually do it, but I, it's like a fun fantasy for me. It's like, I could be, to picture myself as like a, get ready with me as a whatever in Chicago. 5:00 AM, I wouldn't be doing the 5:00 AM stuff, but like 8:00 AM, heading out to a run club. Coffee, coffee after with my run club homies.

• 49:15Brooke Averick?

  That's like not sounding good to me.

• 49:17Connor Wood?

  What would you?

• 49:17Brooke Averick?

  But I, I love that.

• 49:19Connor Wood?

  And then we talked, last night, we did a kind of like a live show, an adulting live show.

• 49:25Brooke Averick?

  Of sorts, yeah.

• 49:25Connor Wood?

  And the young man that opened for us, Chris Higgins, who's so funny, he said that he moved to Chicago because he travels so much that it makes more sense for him to be there than New York and LA.

• 49:36Brooke Averick?

  Whoa.

• 49:37Connor Wood?

  He's like, cause I'm-

• 49:37Brooke Averick?

  I never thought of just moving to the middle for ease. Maybe you should do that.

• 49:41Connor Wood?

  No, maybe, no. I would move to Austin before I moved to Chicago.

• 49:45Brooke Averick?

  I was about to say, you could do a southern middle.

• 49:47Connor Wood?

  Yeah, southern charm.

• 49:48Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 49:51Connor Wood?

  And I just want to say publicly, I was doing a moving in silence thing. I think when, when the gratification I needed was you being like, "Why didn't you tell me you were doing Netflix as a joke?" And like, I was like, "I'm so awesome." Like, the fact that I held that in, and I posted yesterday, I think my moving in silence era is coming to an end. And everybody responded to me-

• 50:08Brooke Averick?

  You were doing intentional, like, waiting for me to ask, like, why didn't you tell me?

• 50:12Connor Wood?

  No, no, no, no, no. I was just like, I talk about myself so much, and it's just like, you should, and this is also bad. And I'm just gonna, we're doing, this is kind of like a more philosophical episode, I think, than we've done traditionally.

• 50:23Brooke Averick?

  Yes.

• 50:25Connor Wood?

  But I see everybody winning so much that like, people have bigger wins, and I'm like, I'm like, I don't even feel like I need to announce this win, even though it is a win. And then it ends, and I'm like, "Oh, like, that was a really cool thing that I did."

• 50:36Brooke Averick?

  Yes.

• 50:36Connor Wood?

  And I didn't talk about it. And it's a milestone that even two years ago, I would have been like, one day, and I said publicly on the podcast, someone DM'd me and was like, "You were talking about wanting to be on Netflix as a joke, and then you do it, but then everyone else that I surround myself with is so successful that I'm like, 'Oh, I like that when I post this little win.'" But, so I didn't, because I was moving in silence, fuck moving in silence.

• 50:58Brooke Averick?

  I totally agree.

• 50:59Connor Wood?

  I want to tell people, if I'm hungry and I'm craving ham, hey, I'm craving ham. Because if that relates, if that, if that resonates with one person-

• 51:11Connor Wood?

  Then I've done my job.

• 51:12Brooke Averick?

  It is not a bad thing to be proud of yourself.

• 51:14Connor Wood?

  I know, being proud, but like-

• 51:15Brooke Averick?

  There's a difference between being egotistical and being proud of yourself.

• 51:18Connor Wood?

  It's hard when you're in your head. I think it almost like you having OCD might relate. It's like, I post this thing and it's like, shut the fuck up for a minute if you don't mind.

• 51:27Brooke Averick?

  Oh, how do you think I felt the past 10 months having to post Phoebe every day? I feel like everyone hates me.

• 51:32Connor Wood?

  No, that's not true, but that's funny because that's what you think and then I don't think that. It's like, it's funny.

• 51:38Brooke Averick?

  Oh, yeah, I've convinced myself that everyone thinks I'm so annoying and hates me. And I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do a full like two months offline once, once it's done.

• 51:47Connor Wood?

  I will say, I, this cathartic ass episode.

• 51:50Brooke Averick?

  It's fine, we needed it.

• 51:51Connor Wood?

  Can we, can we just, can we title this cathartic? Is it catharticism?

• 51:56Brooke Averick?

  We need it.

• 51:57Connor Wood?

  I don't know, we'll look up a better word to put it, but it's definitely cathartic.

• 51:59Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 51:59Connor Wood?

  We're releasing a lot of things here.

• 52:01Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 52:02Connor Wood?

  You just almost like, you were like, I thought I was a lesbian, like this is like completely, we're realizing things.

• 52:07Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 52:07Connor Wood?

  Oh, let's, let's title it realizing things. Or realize, realize, realize.

• 52:14Brooke Averick?

  Okay, whatever you want. We can talk about it later.

• 52:16Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 52:17Brooke Averick?

  Or now, whatever you want.

• 52:18Connor Wood?

  I don't know, I just thought it'd be fun for everyone to see like in real time, how our brains are working.

• 52:23Brooke Averick?

  Celebrating the wins?

• 52:24Connor Wood?

  Yeah. Well, it was less like that. It was just like, I actually narcissist, what I'm about to say.

• 52:32Connor Wood?

  I was like, I think people probably think it's cool that I'm not posting and then I started posting and it was like, no one actually gave a shit. So now I'm gonna start posting and being annoying again, I think.

• 52:41Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 52:41Connor Wood?

  Which is great.

• 52:42Brooke Averick?

  I have an interesting thing that I always wonder.

• 52:48Brooke Averick?

  People like think that I'm humble.

• 52:52Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 52:52Brooke Averick?

  Because I don't like to talk about like things that I have accomplished, but I don't think I'm humble. Like, I think I get really, I actually do get really like privately proud.

• 53:07Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 53:07Brooke Averick?

  But I'm just so scared to be perceived as annoying.

• 53:11Connor Wood?

  Yeah, me too. Get in line.

• 53:12Brooke Averick?

  That it's not me being, it's not humility at all. It's, it's fear of being annoying.

• 53:16Connor Wood?

  That's interesting, yeah.

• 53:18Brooke Averick?

  I don't think I'm humble. Like, on the inside, I'm not humble. I'm like, I'm cool. Like, this is great and yay. But on the outside, I'm not saying it because I don't want to be annoying, not because I'm humble.

• 53:29Connor Wood?

  That was like kind of the- A similar vein of like that, oh, everyone else is doing so well. Why would I even be excited about this? This win?

• 53:39Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 53:40Connor Wood?

  I don't know where like to go with that realization, but I think that it's good that.

• 53:46Brooke Averick?

  It's good to get it out.

• 53:46Connor Wood?

  Yeah, we said it.

• 53:47Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Is there anything else that we need to get off our chests?

• 53:51Connor Wood?

  I guess like now is a good time to do it. I told you when I get my next therapist, I have a list of things like a laundry list.

• 53:58Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 53:58Connor Wood?

  They'll be, that'll be cathartic.

• 54:00Brooke Averick?

  Oh, God, yeah.

• 54:01Connor Wood?

  Yeah. There's a, there's a lot of things on it. It's actually like all stuff I've said on the podcast too, which.

• 54:07Brooke Averick?

  Do you want to run through some of it?

• 54:08Connor Wood?

  No, no, I'm okay.

• 54:09Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 54:09Connor Wood?

  It's not private. I just like, I, it will, it will scare me to say out loud.

• 54:12Brooke Averick?

  Okay. That's fine.

• 54:14Connor Wood?

  I think in one vein, it, there is like that thing that you said you thought you did nine 11 for a long time. You convince yourself. I kind of have that thing too, where it's like, I think that I'm secretly evil and I'm getting by every day and no one realizes and I'm like.

• 54:28Brooke Averick?

  That is, that is a genuine form of OCD of like you thinking you're a bad person.

• 54:32Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 54:33Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 54:33Connor Wood?

  That's what I feel every day. It's like, it's based on, it's based not in any truth.

• 54:38Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 54:38Connor Wood?

  What is that?

• 54:39Brooke Averick?

  OCD.

• 54:40Connor Wood?

  I don't think that I have OCD.

• 54:43Brooke Averick?

  Therapist about it.

• 54:43Connor Wood?

  I will.

• 54:45Brooke Averick?

  But so many people with OCD think that they're evil.

• 54:48Connor Wood?

  Can I say, I don't think I'm evil, like I'm gonna kill everybody, but like, okay, maybe.

• 54:53Brooke Averick?

  Well, a lot of people with OCD are like having thoughts of like, oh, I'm gonna kill this person like intrusively and like think that that must mean like I am a bad person and like that's who I am at my core.

• 55:02Connor Wood?

  I don't feel that. I don't have any like malice in, in terms of like killing.

• 55:06Brooke Averick?

  I used to have that when I was little and I would think about killing people and then I'd be like, maybe that's the real me.

• 55:11Connor Wood?

  Mine's based on nothing. It's just like, oh, I like, I like imposter syndrome, I guess. That's probably what it is. I was gonna say, you know what I started taking? Cause I went to the Eastern medicine store.

• 55:22Brooke Averick?

  Oxygondas?

• 55:22Connor Wood?

  Nope. That didn't work for me. I went to the Eastern medicine store with me and me when I was home and she was picking up something and I picked up NADH plus.

• 55:33Brooke Averick?

  I've heard of that.

• 55:34Connor Wood?

  And I, I picked up, um, L-theanine.

• 55:37Brooke Averick?

  I've heard of both of those.

• 55:38Connor Wood?

  Taking them both on an empty stomach. I don't know. It could be, it could completely be placebo. I have never felt, even in the face of like. True things that should really freak me out.

• 55:53Connor Wood?

  Anxiety, scheduling, big shows, Netflix is a joke, all these things. I have never been more unbothered by anything ever in my life.

• 56:02Brooke Averick?

  Are you serious?

• 56:02Connor Wood?

  I'm serious.

• 56:04Brooke Averick?

  Are these both supposed to be for your mental?

• 56:07Connor Wood?

  I don't know.

• 56:08Brooke Averick?

  What made you pick them up?

• 56:10Connor Wood?

  Uh, L-theanine is supposed to help with often combined supplements to target stress and cellular aging. NAD plus supports cellular energy and repair, but I think that it helps your cognition.

• 56:20Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 56:20Connor Wood?

  Too. So I think maybe that is maybe just, it's just working in the background to work through things that are stupid and shouldn't cause me stress.

• 56:26Brooke Averick?

  Got it.

• 56:26Connor Wood?

  And then L-theanine is like for something too. I guess stress, relaxation and focus. Yeah, hell yeah. That's what I wanted them to do. Wow. I never double checked, but that's great.

• 56:37Brooke Averick?

  I just get so confused with supplements.

• 56:40Connor Wood?

  Highly suggest these two, and that's not medical advice. It's just working for me.

• 56:45Connor Wood?

  And now I will say that one thing that did cause me a lot of stress was Tom Brady's face recently.

• 56:50Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I didn't see it.

• 56:51Connor Wood?

  Holy moly. I almost, every day I, I hold myself back from posting it on my Instagram story because I don't want it to stick with anybody else, but there's a picture of him. That, no, wait, no, it's not even that one. Izzy, it's this one. Like, sorry, I threw up. It's this picture and he's in front of the Gucci mansion. It's a paparazzi picture. It's, this is what I looked like. They finally took my harmonica at the airport.

• 57:18Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 57:21Connor Wood?

  Yeah, it's that one.

• 57:23Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. So he's just gotten a lot of work done, huh?

• 57:25Connor Wood?

  That was me thinking that they were about to.

• 57:27Brooke Averick?

  He got that, that boogal fat removal.

• 57:29Connor Wood?

  Yeah, but he's a little bit like past getting boogal fat removal. Like you should have just kept it.

• 57:35Brooke Averick?

  I am all for a fashionable man.

• 57:42Brooke Averick?

  But like, he has lost his roots.

• 57:45Connor Wood?

  Well, I think that this is, the, the, this is what someone looks like when they're

• 57:51Connor Wood?

  very desperately trying to get their ex-wife's attention.

• 57:54Brooke Averick?

  Do you think?

• 57:55Connor Wood?

  This is like when people have their arc in the gym, when they're like. Usually it's a guy and I see it all the time on videos where it's like, "We broke up and then I got..." Or no, actually I've seen night girls do it too, where it's just like,

• 58:09Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, girls do.

• 58:09Connor Wood?

  I have my arc in the gym. You get like really buff or you get like really toned or you get really hot. He's doing an opposite, different third option called get really scary. And he's doing a lot of things that, you know, this is like an, this is like an NFL superstar legend and he's doing a lot of interesting moves. And I think that it,

• 58:33Connor Wood?

  there's no way Gisele is not noticing this young man.

• 58:36Brooke Averick?

  Well, yeah, of course she's gonna notice. Yeah, that, that's, wait, who's on the left?

• 58:41Connor Wood?

  That's him.

• 58:42Brooke Averick?

  I've never seen that person. How did he get to the person on the right?

• 58:48Brooke Averick?

  Is that, is that natural aging?

• 58:50Connor Wood?

  I think it would be about a billion or so dollars to get you to the place on the right.

• 58:55Connor Wood?

  But he looks younger now than he did.

• 58:56Brooke Averick?

  I'm so confused.

• 58:57Connor Wood?

  That's Caucasian James on the far left.

• 58:58Brooke Averick?

  I was gonna say, like, how did he, why was he born as Caucasian James? And then how did he transition to Tom Brady?

• 59:05Connor Wood?

  Oh, it's incredible. But the reason this photo came up is because this was, this profile, or this paparazzi photo was genuinely how I was standing, wondering what, what they were gonna pull out of my bag at TSA and I'm just standing there like sucking on my cheeks, just like, and it was my harmonica and I was like, oh.

• 59:22Brooke Averick?

  Didn't they take it before? Or they just were inspecting it?

• 59:25Connor Wood?

  They, it flashes really, really brightly on the x-ray.

• 59:29Brooke Averick?

  Why do you keep bringing it?

• 59:31Connor Wood?

  Because they shove it back in my bag and this time they're like, we gotta, and I was like, just, keep it. This is causing me so much trouble. Anyways, that's all I have to say about Tom Brady, but he did stick with me. He's been, that picture of him is in my camera roll and I will be using that at some point.

• 59:46Brooke Averick?

  I get that.

• 59:47Connor Wood?

  I will say, um, one quick learning moment for me, which I don't know. Do you know what an Americano is?

• 59:53Brooke Averick?

  Like the coffee?

• 59:54Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 59:54Brooke Averick?

  Like, I know what it is, but I don't actually like know what's in it. Isn't it just like a black coffee essentially?

• 1:00:00Connor Wood?

  Thank you. No, it's not.

• 1:00:04Connor Wood?

  When I was studying abroad over the summer and I was

• 1:00:08Brooke Averick?

  Where were you studying abroad over the summer?

• 1:00:10Connor Wood?

  I went to, where did I, oh, I guess I didn't leave the country. When I was studying abroad over the winter, when I went to the, when I was in Italy. I kept being like, can I just have a black coffee? And they were like, an Americano? And I was like, great. So maybe that's just what they call our coffee, because like, they don't drink black coffee, they're classy, so. I'm like, yeah, I'll do an Americano, you know, like, whatever. And then my hotel that I'm at, the coffee shop that's in it, doesn't have black coffee either, because they're like fancy, and

• 1:00:38Brooke Averick?

  If they have coffee, they have black coffee.

• 1:00:40Connor Wood?

  It's like a thing where it's just like, okay, guys, yeah, I'll get an Americano. Like, for you guys, I'll get an Americano. But it's like, how hard is it to just brew a pot, you know? But I was like, okay, yeah, I'll do an Americano. I've been having them every day. And even with my new, the pills that I'm on, NADH, and, I almost said Phoebe Berman, and L-theanine.

• 1:01:03Brooke Averick?

  People keep calling her Phoebe Berman, and that's not sitting right.

• 1:01:06Connor Wood?

  I'm sorry.

• 1:01:07Brooke Averick?

  And it hits the ear poorly.

• 1:01:09Connor Wood?

  Yeah, it doesn't roll. An Americano is three shots of espresso, and I've been having full-blown shaking fits, what's going on with me? I can't drink coffee anymore. I've been cutting coffee completely out of my diet. And then the other day, they were like, yeah, you've been drinking three shots of espresso on top of like, a second cup of coffee.

• 1:01:28Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 1:01:29Connor Wood?

  So my body was completely shutting down.

• 1:01:31Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:31Connor Wood?

  An Americano is just purely espresso and water.

• 1:01:37Brooke Averick?

  And water?

• 1:01:37Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:38Brooke Averick?

  Interesting.

• 1:01:39Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:39Brooke Averick?

  My favorite type of coffee in the world is just diner coffee.

• 1:01:43Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:44Brooke Averick?

  With cream and sugar.

• 1:01:46Connor Wood?

  I like when the spoon hits the porcelain

• 1:01:48Brooke Averick?

  I do too.

• 1:01:49Connor Wood?

  I like the noise it makes when everyone's stirring their coffee at the same time.

• 1:01:52Brooke Averick?

  I like that too.

• 1:01:54Connor Wood?

  We have an awesome podcast.

• 1:01:55Brooke Averick?

  I agree.

• 1:01:58Connor Wood?

  Clip that.

• 1:01:59Brooke Averick?

  Hey.

• 1:01:59Connor Wood?

  Hello.

• 1:02:00Brooke Averick?

  Hi.

• 1:02:00Connor Wood?

  Oh, I didn't tell you what happened in Milwaukee. That's what I was gonna say. Okay, in Milwaukee, I came out and I opened with, I was like, ah, Milwaukee, hello. Everyone back. Hello. It was the coolest thing I've ever seen.

• 1:02:16Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I love that. We kind of, I can't believe we didn't do that at all today. It really came and went, didn't it?

• 1:02:20Connor Wood?

  It was something where like, I think at the end of the episode, if you were to watch the tapes back, we do kinda like, we're like, this is annoying.

• 1:02:26Brooke Averick?

  Oh, it's horrible.

• 1:02:27Connor Wood?

  Yeah, no, but I, we, we kinda like, we were dying laughing at the beginning. And then we're like, no, yeah, no, yeah, hello.

• 1:02:33Brooke Averick?

  Oh, hi.

• 1:02:33Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:34Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:34Connor Wood?

  Just kinda like lost the spark, which it's great to see something come and go.

• 1:02:38Brooke Averick?

  I think it's great. Again, quit while you're ahead. It was fun and now it's not.

• 1:02:42Connor Wood?

  We nailed it.

• 1:02:42Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. We totally killed that one.

• 1:02:46Connor Wood?

  Okay, thank you guys for watching. Uh, wrapping up on that and, uh...

• 1:02:52Brooke Averick?

  I'll miss you guys.

• 1:02:53Connor Wood?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:02:53Brooke Averick?

  This is definitely a moment in time that's happening and, you know, thanks for coming along for the ride. Thank you and thank you so much to everybody who has made this dream possible for a little girl like me. And I'm very grateful and excited and nauseous.

• 1:03:15Connor Wood?

  Gaybrook, we're all so proud of you.

• 1:03:17Brooke Averick?

  Thank you, me too, but I'm too humble to say.

• 1:03:19Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:20Brooke Averick?

  Kidding, I'm joking.

• 1:03:21Connor Wood?

  You would never. We'll see you on the other side, which is gonna be very, very, very weird. On the other side of your New York Times bestselling book.

• 1:03:29Brooke Averick?

  Don't say.

• 1:03:30Connor Wood?

  I mean, it's like a layup for you.

• 1:03:32Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 1:03:33Connor Wood?

  Congrats.

• 1:03:34Brooke Averick?

  Thank you.

• 1:03:35Connor Wood?

  Kiss, kiss your brain.

• 1:03:38Connor Wood?

  Thank you, guys. We'll see you soon. We have some exciting guests coming up. And then we'll have a New York Times bestselling author on the podcast after that.

• 1:03:44Brooke Averick?

  I liked...

• 1:03:45Connor Wood?

  Thank you. Good night.

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