KHC 220 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 36

We’re back with a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly episode! This week we’re covering Truett’s recent Chicago Marathon PR, Mark Dowdle and Big’s Backyard Ultra, football and more! Enter to WIN a Bear Hunt with the Rivets: https://cameronhanes.com/pages/bear-hunt-giveaway New Merch: https://cameronhanes.com/collections/new-gear Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Max Jolliffe Letter, Running PRs & Intro 00:09:10 – Truett’s Marathon Results & New PR 00:21:58 – Chicago Marathon Women Racers 00:24:54 – Peter Snell Documentary 00:31:22 – Big’s Backyard Ultra 00:37:29 – The Oregon Ducks Season 00:41:44 – Aaron Rodgers 00:45:52 – Current Top Podcast Charts 00:48:58 – Aliens in the Whitehouse 00:52:38 – White’s Meats & Tanner’s Buck 00:55:19 – Reversible Puffer 00:57:10 – Get Out & VOTE + Final Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors: Ketone IQ: Visit https://www.ketone.com/Cam and use code CAM for 30% off your subscription order PLUS receive a free gift with your second shipment - or find Ketone-IQ at CVS stores nationwide and get $5 off your first 6-pack for a limited time! Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 15% off LMNT: Visit https://drinklmnt.com/cam for a free sample pack with any purchase Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 10% your order MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code CAM for 20% off & Free Shipping

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• 0:00Cameron Hanes?

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• 1:28Cameron Hanes?

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• 2:11Cameron Hanes?

  All right, this is Shit Talkers Weekly. I don't even know.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  Thirty-six.

• 2:16Cameron Hanes?

  Thirty-six. All right. You, James brought his documents from when he was a kid and businessman, closing deals, I guess. What, what are the documents?

• 2:27Speaker 01

  I have a little treat.

• 2:29Cameron Hanes?

  Deposition.

• 2:30Speaker 01

  Look at this.

• 2:33Cameron Hanes?

  What? Oh shit, proud hogwashers, Max Jolliffe.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  Unsolicited me.

• 2:40Cameron Hanes?

  Yes, look at that.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  So I ordered one and he put an extra in there for you.

• 2:47Cameron Hanes?

  I'm gonna put it right here.

• 2:54Cameron Hanes?

  That is sick. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna fly this flag with pride.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  And his note says,

• 3:04Speaker 01

  thanks for the order, I put an extra one in for Cam, please ensure Eric does not get his hands on one. That piece of shit ruined Shit Talkers Weekly.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  For me, for a couple of weeks, and I still haven't forgiven the little fucker respectfully.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  Please place the bumper sticker proudly on your vehicle so the world knows that you love cock. And I'll leave you with something. If you want the rainbow, you've got to put up with the rain. Dolly Parton.

• 3:38Cameron Hanes?

  Nice, okay.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  And people say she's just a big pair of tits. It's all love.

• 3:47Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, so a couple of things, let's unpack that.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:51Cameron Hanes?

  First of all, Eric's taking strays.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  I mean, America's number one real estate agent.

• 3:59Cameron Hanes?

  Where, where did that come from? That was out of left field. I mean, on top of yesterday, I saw him going for his PR with no shirt on.

• 4:09Cameron Hanes?

  Running up Piska, and I'm just gonna go ahead, I'm just gonna throw this out there, that he did not get his PR.

• 4:16Speaker 01

  No.

• 4:18Cameron Hanes?

  So tell me, you're his roommate?

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:20Cameron Hanes?

  So how did it go?

• 4:21Speaker 01

  He said, so he said his PR was about 19 and he said I was a minute.

• 4:26Cameron Hanes?

  First of all, about 19? Okay.

• 4:30Speaker 01

  If you know Eric, that's classic.

• 4:32Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 4:32Speaker 01

  And he said he was a minute and a half off, so I said, oh, you got just over 21 or 20? He said, no, I was 21 something. So two.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  So two minutes and some change.

• 4:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  But yeah, so, but he said, he was like dying, and then he looks up the hill and he sees you with the dog coming down, and he's like, fuck.

• 4:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I told you, that was the part where your arms are starting to go dead. Cause it's steep and you go out way too fast. Everything starts to burn, your legs, lactic is, is creeping out of your legs into your arms somehow.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  By Bluetooth.

• 5:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, and I saw him and he looked like a fucking specimen.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:19Cameron Hanes?

  Running up the hill.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  You wanna talk about a super soldier, that's your guy.

• 5:24Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, he looked, yeah, he looked like that, that black guy who sprints.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  Nate Ellingsworth?

• 5:32Cameron Hanes?

  No, darker, a little darker.

• 5:34Speaker 01

  Oh, Ashton Hall.

• 5:40Speaker 01

  Sorry, they kinda look the same.

• 5:41Cameron Hanes?

  They do. I mean, mostly it's like, if you're watching Nate sprint, it's mesmerizing. It's hard to keep track of where all the skin and tits and belly are going. It's like, I didn't know that was physically possible. For tits to be going different directions from your stomach. It's a fucking whirlwind of activity.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  It's the newest circus ride.

• 6:14Cameron Hanes?

  Hold on tight, buckle in.

• 6:18Cameron Hanes?

  So.

• 6:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, Nate, it's all love.

• 6:21Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, Ashton Hall is all love.

• 6:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, don't, I mean, he might be offended, we're comparing Triple Oaks, number one real estate, not even Triple Oaks anymore, but Remax, Eric, and Nate and him.

• 6:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:36Cameron Hanes?

  That that was, that comparison is a thief of joy.

• 6:42Cameron Hanes?

  It's not.

• 6:44Speaker 01

  I think the person that might be the most hurt by this is gonna be Eric.

• 6:51Cameron Hanes?

  No, because he was only like 10 seconds off his PR.

• 6:56Speaker 01

  About.

• 6:58Cameron Hanes?

  Roughly.

• 6:59Speaker 01

  Which, you know, he's not just a specimen on the hill, but he's also a specimen on the court. In our city league, he put up six.

• 7:07Cameron Hanes?

  And you put up 17, did I hear? And you guys lost by 40?

• 7:12Speaker 01

  About. We, we almost won.

• 7:15Cameron Hanes?

  In this Springfield Z League?

• 7:21Cameron Hanes?

  I played in, no, I did, I tried to play in Eugene A, and it was basically, I think they're the Harlem Gold Traders.

• 7:34Cameron Hanes?

  And I was in Washington Generals.

• 7:39Cameron Hanes?

  So, but the, the opposite end of the other spectrum is Springfield, which is smaller little league, and then Z.

• 7:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, the guys we were playing against were in wheelchair.

• 7:49Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, were they? Okay, yeah, that's great.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, so, which, you know what? Last season, I maybe had some embarrassing moments, but this season on the court, I'm, I'm going for the MVP.

• 8:09Cameron Hanes?

  Really?

• 8:10Speaker 01

  For the first time in the league's history, the MVP will have an all losing streak.

• 8:16Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  And also get the MVP.

• 8:19Cameron Hanes?

  And be very weak because your weightlifting prowess is.

• 8:22Speaker 01

  I was hoping you weren't gonna bring that one up.

• 8:26Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, we put up, you busted out 225, I mean, a half rep of it. Didn't you?

• 8:33Speaker 01

  Well, as far as the video showed, yeah.

• 8:37Cameron Hanes?

  Was there more? I know my back is still fucked up from trying to, what, I did it, had to do a shoulder, upright row.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Upright row.

• 8:48Cameron Hanes?

  With 225.

• 8:52Speaker 01

  Cause it was killing and crushing me.

• 8:53Cameron Hanes?

  But dude, that freaking, you did a negative on that.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Well, that's what got me.

• 8:57Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 8:58Speaker 01

  And a lot of people don't know that negative is how you build the muscle. The positive.

• 9:03Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  The eccentric.

• 9:06Cameron Hanes?

  Is it?

• 9:06Speaker 01

  Versus the key concentric.

• 9:09Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 9:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:10Cameron Hanes?

  Well said.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  Well, uh, welcome to Shit Talkers Weekly, everybody.

• 9:16Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, and let me just go through the fine print.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Yep, go ahead.

• 9:20Cameron Hanes?

  It's all love, baby. You can't, Ashton, Nate, Eric, Triple Oaks, this is all love.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  It's all love.

• 9:28Cameron Hanes?

  So whoever we mentioned, friend of the show I'm gonna mention, I don't know why.

• 9:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, he'll come up somehow, or she, whoever.

• 9:38Cameron Hanes?

  But just know that that's love too. Well, actually, is that, that one's not love.

• 9:42Speaker 01

  No, that, you said that was.

• 9:44Cameron Hanes?

  Right, that's right.

• 9:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:45Cameron Hanes?

  That's the other fine print.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's the finer print.

• 9:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  So, we got some things to talk about.

• 9:51Cameron Hanes?

  All right.

• 9:54Cameron Hanes?

  Oh shit, we're getting, this is gonna be formal.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  On the last Shit Talkers, we talked about Truitt's upcoming marathon.

• 10:02Cameron Hanes?

  We did.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  We said that the weather could have an effect, he should be in good shape, he's maybe lost a little weight. What was the result?

• 10:11Cameron Hanes?

  The result was, uh, 22328, which is about a six minute PR.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  That's pretty fast.

• 10:21Cameron Hanes?

  That's legit. Um, yeah, so he, uh, yeah, I mean, just had a great, great, I mean, a very good performance.

• 10:34Cameron Hanes?

  I think he's actually even in better shape than what he showed. I think that, that 22328 is super impressive. I think it's like five, around 530 or 528s.

• 10:46Cameron Hanes?

  For 26.2 miles, which is a good marathon. But it was a warmer day, it was windy there, a lot of people blew up, a lot of people had a hu- hard day.

• 10:59Cameron Hanes?

  And, uh, you know, he performed finally, you know, after had a few rough outings, we needed a, a win.

• 11:06Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 11:08Cameron Hanes?

  And yeah, he put on a show and played up to the crowd, got some good content. He's, he, I mean, he calls a shot and loves to put himself out there.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, uh, that reminds me of another friend of a show who probably hated to see him get the PR.

• 11:29Speaker 01

  Jay Mill?

• 11:30Cameron Hanes?

  Oh shit. Jay Mill. What does that fucker run up to?

• 11:37Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 11:38Cameron Hanes?

  I, the last time, when did we block, did we block him? Cause he kept talking shit about Truitt's, the downhill thing?

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, he just said, he left a comment on one of Truitt's video and something about downhill, downhill merchant. Is that where it came from?

• 11:53Cameron Hanes?

  Maybe. Or maybe, I don't know, maybe, but Jay Mill, 240? Come on. I mean, Truitt's fricking drinking coffee by the time you finish.

• 12:08Speaker 01

  He's having a little doughnut.

• 12:10Cameron Hanes?

  So I don't know what kind of shit you're talking. And now I think Alicia said he tried to chime in and said something.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  With this one?

• 12:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 12:21Speaker 01

  Oh, boy. Why even, why even?

• 12:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. You already, you fucked yourself.

• 12:26Speaker 01

  Well, talking of, talking of, talking of speaking, speaking of talking shit.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  How do you think, have, have we heard anything from James Lawrence, Iron Cowboy?

• 12:38Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, we did.

• 12:39Speaker 01

  Things on the internet?

• 12:42Cameron Hanes?

  We did. I think he sent me a message and he sent, keep hammering collective a message.

• 12:47Speaker 01

  He did.

• 12:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And all I'll say, James, is I would have, yeah, I wanted to have you on, but I can't, just can't support just talking shit, just to talk shit. So.

• 13:03Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know. I just can't, I just don't get the point of making a, a reel just specifically to tear somebody down.

• 13:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. But if you want to see that, hit the comment button, hit the like button, let us know.

• 13:20Cameron Hanes?

  And also I don't, I don't really, you know, I, back to Jay Mill, we said at that time when he was like worried about the, the 225 to 229 downhill, it was like, and I think I said, just chill out. We're not even, that's not even close to the goal.

• 13:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:37Cameron Hanes?

  You're going to be, this is so irrelevant by the time Truitt gets done. It's not even worth discussing. And you're, you're making yourself look stupid or drawing negative attention to yourself for something that's not even gonna, now he's at 223.

• 13:52Speaker 01

  It's just a train stop along the way.

• 13:54Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. It's like, so I said that back then, we're, Truitt's still proving that. So.

• 13:59Speaker 01

  And we still got a little ways to go. 223 is great. It's great to get a win, but still a long ways left. So.

• 14:05Cameron Hanes?

  And the thing is, like, to be honest, on that day, um, so Truitt, he was, the goal, I think Rory said, uh, like hold two or five, yeah, 530 would have been a PR. And Rory said this on the podcast, Rory Linkletter's, uh, Truitt's coach, uh, Canadian Olympian, um, badass. Um, but he said, he wanted Truitt to maybe 225 or 224, maybe if he held 530s. And Truitt thought that was too easy because he's been, you know, putting in some work. So he wanted to be more aggressive and, uh, which that, I love that mentality, dude. It's like, you know, it would have been like a five minute

• 14:48Cameron Hanes?

  PR, but that wasn't good enough. Wanted to like send it. And, um, so he did, but that's just a confidence that so much training and, you know, all the weeks and months leading up to this and, and just perform, like seeing the, uh, he had some really good training weeks and really good workouts. So yeah, he, he definitely believes in himself, but, um, so he told Rory he wanted to go faster. And all I said was, um, I said this on the life and stride podcast I was on, those guys are, for, for runner, for elite runners, they're not.

• 15:26Speaker 01

  We've had a little.

• 15:28Cameron Hanes?

  We've had some ups and downs with the elites.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:31Cameron Hanes?

  They don't.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  It can be, it can be an abrasive relationship.

• 15:34Cameron Hanes?

  They don't like the runfluencers getting attention because they're skinny dorks and, yeah. So anyway, we've had some ups and downs with the runfluencers, but I mean, as runflu, whatever. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. What was I saying?

• 15:51Speaker 01

  Life and stride.

• 15:52Cameron Hanes?

  Oh yeah. Those guys are actually cool.

• 15:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:53Cameron Hanes?

  Right. So anyway, and they're, they were super supportive, supportive of Truitt. So I went on their podcast and it was great. But I was telling them, I told Truitt, which I, I told them, why am I chiming in on, I don't know, fuck all about running. But I said, I go, hey, I'm thinking like 535 for that first mile. So let's not spike that heart rate. And once, I mean, we're always excited for marathons. I've never done Chicago, but it seems like a good vibe. People go there to run fast.

• 16:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:25Cameron Hanes?

  Um, and you can, it can, you can get caught up in that and go out too hot. And once that lactic, even a little starts to build on those legs, you're going to pay for that at the end of the race. So I said, if you win at 535 first mile, five to seven seconds off your goal pace,

• 16:48Cameron Hanes?

  you'll make that up by feeling good at the end. Whereas if you go too hot, at the end, you might lose five minutes because you're hitting the wall. So, um, I wanted him just to be like, he's, he's wants to race. He wants to get fast. He is fast. He wants to show his fitness. So I just wanted him to really just relax. I think what I told him is I'd just relax. The training's there. You're, all you gotta do is just let the training shine. And so I said, just relax and don't go too fast. Well, he got, he was behind a bunch of people, got, he said he got kind of boxed in. So his first mile was 543, which you, for, to run as fast as he wants to run a 543 might as well

• 17:29Cameron Hanes?

  be an eight minute mile. So, but it wasn't like where he could take advantage of the slow mile because he's feeling panicked because he's trapped and he's like trying to juke around. So it wasn't even like you got the benefit of a slow mile to warm up. Cause his, he was still nervous system kind of taxed or whatever. And then because that in your head, you're like, oh, I'm already like however many seconds off. Um, then the second or the third mile was like 513. So he's, he's all over, which all I, all I said, I think on that podcast and the truth is normally like these, these elites, or the guys really good at marathons, they're, they're like a metronome. They know exactly

• 18:10Cameron Hanes?

  the splits and they, they hardly vary. Um, I think the, maybe one of the lead women or maybe the women who, or the woman who won, I think you do four 10Ks in a marathon. In each of those 10Ks, so 6.2 mile sections, we're within like five to seven seconds. That's how spot on she was.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 18:31Cameron Hanes?

  Whereas Truitt was a 543 to 513, then back to five, you know, 28. But anyway, so inconsistent pacing, Rory said it wasn't terrible. I was making a bigger deal out of it than he was, but, uh, then on a windy day is warm. Um, and, uh, yeah. So I think he actually, he, he clocked a 223, 28. I, I told Rory, I think he was like in high 221 shape on like a perfect day and with perfect stride or pacing. So he's actually in better shape than what he did with a six, six, and oh, and one last thing, last five miles, I think I heard him, remember Rory said this on, uh, it's,

• 19:16Cameron Hanes?

  uh, what's that podcast called? Out and Back. His podcast is Out and Back. But Rory said with his co-host that Truitt told him the last five miles, nobody passed him. He was just reeling guys in. And then his last mile was 508. So.

• 19:33Speaker 01

  That's a good sign.

• 19:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. When you can push at the end, when it's a six minute PR and you still have your legs to where you can run a 508.

• 19:42Speaker 01

  Was that his fastest mile?

• 19:43Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:45Cameron Hanes?

  Last mile, your fastest.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  That's good.

• 19:47Cameron Hanes?

  It's warmest. You just set up, so he's, he's not even close to, to his potential still.

• 19:54Speaker 01

  That's good. That's all we want to hear.

• 19:56Cameron Hanes?

  I know. I.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  Haters are punching the air, but we aren't.

• 19:59Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I, I always send him stuff like, you know, you know, if you could lose this many pounds, you'll be like, you know, like if we thought if he, he thought maybe on that day, he had been in the high 40s, but on that day, he thought he might've been like 55 again. And I said, if you put in like, hey, what is 10 pounds? Um, what kind of impact does 10 pounds have if he gets to 45 body weight? Fitness stays the same. And the prediction is like 213. So 10, and I don't, I don't, I don't know if that's going to happen, but 10 pound, point is 10 pounds makes a lot.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  Big difference.

• 20:34Cameron Hanes?

  Lot of difference.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  Oh, fuck. Go wear a vest and put 10 pounds in and try and run.

• 20:38Cameron Hanes?

  I know.

• 20:38Speaker 01

  This shit sucks.

• 20:39Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So if he can keep that fitness or even improve fitness and drop the body weight, he is, his confidence, like they had that slow mo, um, footage, I think 247 got it, but he's coming in. Of course he's doing like what he does, but then he takes off his hat and it's just like fucking cinema.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:59Cameron Hanes?

  And I know these people who are faster than him, who get a fraction of the attention are like, fuck this guy. Cannot stand this dork. Cause he looks good. He performs and people care. So if you're like on the hater train, that shit's driving you crazy.

• 21:19Speaker 01

  And he's a great guy.

• 21:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And he's the nicest guy you'll ever meet. So.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  Like, give us something to hate.

• 21:25Cameron Hanes?

  I know. Yeah. So they gotta make shit up. Like, oh, your dad's a doper.

• 21:31Cameron Hanes?

  They're so fricking dumb. It's amazing.

• 21:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, I thought that was exciting. It was fucking sick to check in. I told you, I was like, every time he runs a marathon, I like, I'm like, oh, I gotta check to see what Truitt's result is. And this time I checked it and I was like, fuck yeah.

• 21:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know. I was, yeah, I'm always balls deep on those trackers on races, but whether it's him or Courtney or whoever else, um.

• 22:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Oh, one thing I was, I was watching the, the marathon coverage and here's like, you know, we struggle with marathoners getting, a few of them get a lot of attention. A lot of them are really good and don't get a lot of attention. And I was watching the lead women and, uh, or no, it wasn't the lead women. Uh, the lead women are like two, four, way up there.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:27Cameron Hanes?

  But it's like the 220 women and one, uh, debut marathoner was gonna maybe break 220 in her first ever marathon. And, uh, God, I wish Emma Grace Hurley, that's her name. Just an awesome performer. She puked the, was puking forever at the end on camera.

• 22:45Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 22:46Cameron Hanes?

  But she just laid it all out there. Well, anyway, so she's getting a lot of attention for like the first American. Um, I think she was the first American and then also like a debut, fastest ever debut. Well, this other woman in the same race kit passed her and the announcers, which, you know, these are, these are people in the sport. They didn't even know who passed her. And I'm like, if the people announcing the race, and this is obviously an elite woman, she just passed the first American and even they don't know who she is? How?

• 23:30Speaker 01

  This is, this is what I've been saying. It's like, I think it's one of the biggest pieces we're missing for backyard, for ultras, for marathons is like, people just think you can stick anybody in a booth and they can be in commentator. It's like, it's not true. Think about some of the greatest sports moments.

• 23:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  I mean, Auburn returning the kickoff or the missed field goal. Like,

• 23:52Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 23:53Speaker 01

  Auburn's gonna win the football game. That's just as famous as what's actually going on.

• 23:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  There's nothing close to that in the running world.

• 24:00Cameron Hanes?

  None.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  How do you, I mean, I don't know. I, I think about that and I'm like with the backyards or even the ultras with like Rachel's like, we knew for a while out that she was gonna win that race. How do you not have something just gold queued up for when she crosses the finish line?

• 24:17Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's true. Yeah. Uh, just a, a clip worthy.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  That adds to the moment.

• 24:22Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, just, just explanation point.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And there she does it. New course record, first woman, first overall win. It's just like something.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  I think they were talking about reheating their burrito for lunch.

• 24:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. It's just like, can, can we fucking build up these moments? Do we want this sport to be cool?

• 24:45Speaker 01

  Maybe, School of Journalism, maybe start schooling. Okay.

• 24:53Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 24:54Speaker 01

  I'm gonna work on that one.

• 24:56Cameron Hanes?

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• 27:00Cameron Hanes?

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• 27:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:18Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 27:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he was our 32nd president, wasn't he? Um, close. He was,

• 27:28Cameron Hanes?

  this is ironic, from New Zealand, much like Sam Harvey.

• 27:32Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 27:33Cameron Hanes?

  How's Sam Harvey doing in the backyard world championships?

• 27:38Speaker 01

  He got the win for New Zealand.

• 27:39Cameron Hanes?

  I know. I'm not, I can't talk shit. He, he won. It's like, he can't keep going. So he is a frickin' beast. I'm just, I'm kind of still in the Mark Dowdell thing for what, and even though I'm nothing new to it, I'm supporting Mark.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And Team USA. But anyway, no, Sam, you did great. Uh, you are a badass, but you know, whatever. So anyway, New Zealand, Peter Snell's from New Zealand.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 28:03Cameron Hanes?

  So I think this was, shit, was this the sixties? Maybe the sixties. Um, black and white footage.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 28:13Cameron Hanes?

  And they're showing him training. So it's a training montage of Peter Snell. I just watched it last night. And, uh, it shows him doing like all this cricket and fucking field, cause he's from New Zealand.

• 28:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:24Cameron Hanes?

  Field hockey, running in the mountains like with sheep and shit like that, you know? I guess there's some tough fuckers back there or down there or wherever the hell it is. Um, and, uh, so then they said, hey, uh, let's go for a run on the road. And he goes for the run on the road and this guy's in the car and he's just running, can't keep up, just frick, he looks like a complete specimen out there, like broad shoulders, ju, big muscular legs, but gassed out, running up a hill and got in the car. And he's like, kind of laughing, like this sucks type. That, that was like the mood, it seemed like. Well, come to find out, the guy who was filming or in the car said, or somebody there said,

• 29:09Cameron Hanes?

  hey, you could be a great runner. You have what it takes to be a champion runner. And this is after he got in the car because he was gassed. Turns out, he started fucking running. He started doing 100 mile weeks wearing like, it looked like Converse.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 29:26Cameron Hanes?

  There's no fucking gels. There's no like bicarb. There's no Martin, whatever. It's, there's no supplements. There's just fucking running. And he starts, well, he, one race he won was the Olympic Games, gold medal. Set the world record in the mile. He ran a 354.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  What?

• 29:51Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, 350, like faster than Marco today.

• 29:55Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 29:55Cameron Hanes?

  Marco Langdon, who's like an amazing miler. I think, I don't, I think he's about 354, 353. But the point is this is back in the like sixties. And he was like, run a 142 or 40 something 800.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  Just an absolute stud.

• 30:14Cameron Hanes?

  Absolute beast, dude. Unreal how he could run. Like breaking four. Easy.

• 30:23Speaker 01

  Who was the guy that was like, you could be a great runner? Absolute talent.

• 30:28Cameron Hanes?

  Some coach?

• 30:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:29Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know. But how amazing. So you always talk about like the carbon shoes and the fueling and the science. What could that guy have done?

• 30:40Speaker 01

  Just had that X factor.

• 30:42Cameron Hanes?

  Oh my God, dude. So this, that black and white film is nuts.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  That's cool. Is the whole thing black and white?

• 30:50Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 30:51Speaker 01

  That's sick.

• 30:51Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  What was it on?

• 30:54Cameron Hanes?

  It's on YouTube.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  Huh.

• 30:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 30:56Speaker 01

  That had to be a deep cut. How did you?

• 30:58Cameron Hanes?

  I don't even know. Well, I, I had heard the name Peter Snell, I, I guess from running.

• 31:06Cameron Hanes?

  But in one of the clips, I think he beat, maybe it was Bill Bowerman in the mile. Somebody had an Oregon jersey on. But, uh, yeah, I don't know. Frickin' machine though.

• 31:19Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 31:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So, uh, that's kind of a fun fact. You can look that up on YouTube.

• 31:24Speaker 01

  Well, speaking of the Sam Harvey and Mark Dowdle, we gotta talk about Biggs.

• 31:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 31:30Speaker 01

  World championship.

• 31:31Cameron Hanes?

  I know.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  Um, what is it? So they just finished loop 84 or they're on 85.

• 31:40Speaker 01

  And I think that means that the US has the lead. Certainly, if they're still running when this podcast comes out, we got some problems. But here's the issue.

• 31:52Speaker 01

  And we are a neutral.

• 31:54Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 31:54Speaker 01

  Neutral news source, media outlet. Yes, we bring all stories from a neutral perspective.

• 32:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  I don't love that they changed the course. Well, they didn't change the course. Let's explain this. They had a day course and a night course. The day course had a lot more vert, the night course had less. The US team decided to run the night course also during the day.

• 32:18Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Um, so I'll put a little context to it. They did, well, however long they stayed with that course, they put on 10,000 feet of gain.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:30Cameron Hanes?

  More than like Australia. So it was harder than everybody else's, but I think to your point, they, they knew that going in and said, we don't care. We're gonna, we don't care. We're gonna climb more and we'll just, it's gonna be harder for us, but we're gonna win anyway.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  Some things were said

• 32:54Speaker 01

  by our friend of the show.

• 32:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Mark, and I love Mark, big fan of Mark, and I know he'll, he'll laugh about this afterwards. But something along the lines of, you know, he'll be happy to run the harder course while knowing that Australia is running an easier one.

• 33:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 33:14Speaker 01

  So.

• 33:16Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, you do say a lot of stuff pre-race.

• 33:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:21Cameron Hanes?

  He's also said a lot during the race. He is talking some shit, which I love.

• 33:26Speaker 01

  I do too.

• 33:27Cameron Hanes?

  Dude, bring it. That, that's, okay. If we're talking about building sport, that's, people love the spirit of competition. We talked about this before. People love like just hot takes and challenging other athletes and, and talking your game.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  Rivalries.

• 33:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 33:47Cameron Hanes?

  That's what, that's what makes people care. We're talking about it. Why are we talking about it?

• 33:52Speaker 01

  Because Mark.

• 33:53Cameron Hanes?

  And he's a friend of the show, but also he's a badass.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:56Cameron Hanes?

  And we want to win.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:57Cameron Hanes?

  And he wants to win and it's cool and it's okay.

• 34:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:02Cameron Hanes?

  I, I love it.

• 34:03Speaker 01

  I saw a clip and I love this, you know, he, he got emotional, but he said, it's hard having people look at you and they expect you to choose the hard thing every time.

• 34:12Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, definitely is.

• 34:13Speaker 01

  And then I don't know who that guy was that was talking to him, but he just said, that's a privilege.

• 34:19Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, for sure. Pressure is a privilege.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  You trained for this, you asked for this. Eight years of training and now you finally have the privilege of, of having to do the hard way.

• 34:29Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 34:31Speaker 01

  Man, I was like, fuck, you run through a brick wall.

• 34:35Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, so course, whatever. I mean, the course are on the day course, it was approved.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:41Cameron Hanes?

  Or night course, whatever it was, but so that is our option to do is like, it was approved official, it's fine.

• 34:49Cameron Hanes?

  But

• 34:51Cameron Hanes?

  say what you want about anything. Mark's fucking backing it up, dude. He is out there grinding. What are they, 300 and some miles in?

• 34:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:59Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. 350 maybe? I mean.

• 35:01Speaker 01

  It's gotta be, yeah, yeah.

• 35:03Cameron Hanes?

  And he's been in some dark spots, dark places. I mean, I can imagine the pain he's been going through.

• 35:12Speaker 01

  I know. And he said, you know, I saw something that said he pretty much from the beginning was just didn't want to be out there. That's tough. And then.

• 35:22Cameron Hanes?

  That was four days ago.

• 35:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:26Speaker 01

  Last night I was messaging, um, I gotta make sure I remember his name.

• 35:34Speaker 01

  I just unfortunately remember everyone by their Instagram name. Proctor, Alex Proctor. He was messaging me and he just said,

• 35:47Speaker 01

  he felt something special coming on. And then this morning I was like, how are we doing? And he's like, Mark is an animal.

• 35:53Cameron Hanes?

  Really?

• 35:54Speaker 01

  So I think that inner crazy.

• 35:56Cameron Hanes?

  He went to a dark place. Yeah.

• 35:59Speaker 01

  And now he's just living in it.

• 36:00Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's, and that's what it takes.

• 36:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:03Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, wait, what, should we do the Bane? Isn't it Bane?

• 36:11Speaker 01

  That was Darth Vader?

• 36:14Cameron Hanes?

  You were.

• 36:16Cameron Hanes?

  I was born in the dark. You merely adapted to it. Exactly. So that's Mark.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  So, well, well.

• 36:27Cameron Hanes?

  How many miles did Theo Von run with him?

• 36:30Speaker 01

  I don't know, but I saw.

• 36:32Cameron Hanes?

  You have Theo, Theo Von crewing you? What the fuck?

• 36:35Speaker 01

  And I, I mean, most of the comments were great, but I saw one or two that was like hate for that. Like what, what the fuck do you have?

• 36:42Cameron Hanes?

  What do you mean? What were they, what'd they say?

• 36:44Speaker 01

  What a joke.

• 36:45Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, shut the fuck up. God, I hate people.

• 36:51Speaker 01

  What could you possibly have to say bad about Theo Von? Coming to backyard Ultra?

• 36:59Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 36:59Cameron Hanes?

  That's the coolest thing ever.

• 37:00Speaker 01

  A mainstream celebrity? Yeah.

• 37:03Cameron Hanes?

  Amazing. They don't even know ultras exist.

• 37:07Speaker 01

  And he's there cooking up a meal for Mark.

• 37:10Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, celebrities, if they, yeah, if they even knew what an ultra was, that's a great win right there. Let alone show up and fucking make a sandwich. God.

• 37:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:22Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, people are ridiculous.

• 37:24Speaker 01

  And then I saw, you know, Theo goes from posting at Biggs to, um, the Tennessee game, which then reminded me, check out this transition about the Ducks.

• 37:35Cameron Hanes?

  Nice segue. The Ducks.

• 37:40Cameron Hanes?

  The Ducks. Well, okay.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  We gotta win.

• 37:46Cameron Hanes?

  And that should have been like it to carry us through the week.

• 37:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:49Cameron Hanes?

  Like some good news carries through the week, right? But it wasn't.

• 37:54Cameron Hanes?

  Because then we're, we decided, hey, let's have a few stars of our team drag race in Springfield and then get arrested for DUIs.

• 38:07Cameron Hanes?

  Dan.

• 38:08Speaker 01

  Daniel.

• 38:09Cameron Hanes?

  Daniel.

• 38:12Cameron Hanes?

  I love your mic work.

• 38:15Cameron Hanes?

  What about the discipline work? Let's get these fucking kids dialed in, dude. Incredible athletes. What is going on?

• 38:26Speaker 01

  Let me tell you this.

• 38:26Cameron Hanes?

  We're supposed to be a national title contender. What the fuck?

• 38:32Speaker 01

  You know, after USC, Dan made a comment about if you want to win games, come to Oregon. If you want to go to a Chris Brown concert, go to USC.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  It kind of seems like your players would be the type to go to a Chris Brown concert.

• 38:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I mean, you know, we had this before there. We had a, I think it was Cliff Harris, who's just an awesome, I think it was him, but awesome cornerback. Like number one, I, I don't know if he's taking number, but he was like amazing athlete and I think he returned punts. But he, same thing. I think he got arrested for, uh, speeding 113 miles an hour. And then they, I think he had, it smelled like pot in the car. And they said, uh, smell marijuana. Do you have marijuana in there? And he said, smoked it all.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  Well, honestly,

• 39:35Speaker 01

  your mug shot was smoked it all on there would.

• 39:39Cameron Hanes?

  I gotta.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  That would do numbers.

• 39:40Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to talk shit about somebody that doesn't deserve it, but Cliff Harris smoked it all. Let's see here. Thinking, searching. June 2011, Oregon Ducks football star Cliff Harris famously replied, we smoked it all to an Oregon State police trooper. The officer pulled him over for driving 118 miles per hour on Interstate five and asked who possessed marijuana in the vehicle?

• 40:09Speaker 01

  Well, that's not really fair because the speed limit was 110.

• 40:11Cameron Hanes?

  Right. So he was just.

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Only eight over.

• 40:14Cameron Hanes?

  Eight over, yeah.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  Just like Eric close to his PR.

• 40:19Cameron Hanes?

  But also, this was, he's probably going, it's 4:30 in the morning. So he's probably going to work out and he just wanted to really get there to get some extra reps in. You think?

• 40:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think so. Clifford, come on.

• 40:31Cameron Hanes?

  And just much like Evan Stewart getting arrested for DUI and our other stud receiver, what's his name?

• 40:40Speaker 01

  Who picked him up from jail?

• 40:41Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 40:44Cameron Hanes?

  Darren Moore?

• 40:45Speaker 01

  Moore, yeah.

• 40:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Much like that, Oregon quarterback Darren Thomas was riding in the car with Cliff Harris. So the famous quote, when the trooper smelled marijuana and asked who had the pot, Harris quipped, we smoked it all.

• 40:57Speaker 01

  You know, he could have said I, but he decided to make it we.

• 41:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So Chip Kelly suspended Harrison indefinitely, causing him to miss the season opener against LSU. Following further off-field and traffic incidents, Harris was later dismissed from the Oregon program. He went undrafted and had a brief, short-lived stint with the Philadelphia Eagles in New York just before legal troubles ended his career. But dude, he was so freaking good. You would, you'd not believe how good this kid was.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  Sounds like he just kind of had that issue for his whole career.

• 41:33Cameron Hanes?

  Some people just can't get out of their own way, you know? And amazing talent, but I was opposite. I didn't have any talent and couldn't get out of my own way. So then you're really-

• 41:44Speaker 01

  Double whammy. Two for one. Well, speaking of football, check this segue. Friend of the show is doing well, Aaron Rodgers.

• 41:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Oh my God, he's balling.

• 41:57Speaker 01

  Well, Aaron Rodgers is always balling. It's just whether or not he can get a little run support out there, you know?

• 42:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. There, I was, I was like, I don't know what I was doing, but I just had the ESPN page up and like the game cast. And so they needed a field goal to tie at the end of regulation. And they were down like on the 40 some yard line. And I'm like, or maybe 30 something. And I'm like, okay, even if we don't get it, we're in field goal range.

• 42:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:31Cameron Hanes?

  Except for then he took a nine yard sack. And I'm like, holy shit, dude. And Aaron should know, you're in field goal, you can't take a sack.

• 42:41Speaker 01

  Got to throw the ball away.

• 42:42Cameron Hanes?

  So I think he must have just, I mean, it must have been one of those where they're just on him.

• 42:46Speaker 01

  Didn't see it.

• 42:47Cameron Hanes?

  And like, did the line block at all? I don't know, but just couldn't, couldn't do anything. Those guys come so fast, especially if they're coming off the corner, right up the middle, something like, nobody gets a body on them. Anyway, took a nine yard sack. So I think the field goal was 57 to tie it.

• 43:07Speaker 01

  That's a poke.

• 43:07Cameron Hanes?

  Fucking drained it.

• 43:09Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 43:09Cameron Hanes?

  And then they won in overtime. But, and Rodgers had been doing terrible, like for most of the game, freaking lit it up in the, in the fourth quarter and overtime, ended up with like awesome stats.

• 43:23Speaker 01

  That's that seasoned quarterback wisdom right there.

• 43:25Cameron Hanes?

  Oh my God, dude. They, so I think they're four and two, and they just find a way to win. And it's like, when you have a team that it's either the defense, because they also had a huge sack to seal that win in overtime. Jalen Ramsey came off the corner and sacked the quarterback for, you know, that fourth down, game over, they had to, they had to get a first down, like two minutes left in overtime. But, so defense can win. Also, there's interception that was almost returned for a touchdown, or the run game, then they got DK Metcalf, like the receiver, and then, you know, Aaron Rodgers slinging it. So what happens when you have teams that just find different ways to win? Then their opponent,

• 44:10Cameron Hanes?

  they can't really game plan.

• 44:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:11Cameron Hanes?

  Cause they're like, what do we take away?

• 44:13Speaker 01

  Can't shut it all down.

• 44:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And so Pittsburgh has shown that they just figured it out.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  I mean, hopefully they get quite a few more wins and-

• 44:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Oh man, I'd love to see him. They're talking like he's in the MVP conversation. He's freaking 42 years old.

• 44:31Speaker 01

  MVP with a Super Bowl?

• 44:33Cameron Hanes?

  Come on now.

• 44:33Speaker 01

  I mean, I don't want to jinx it.

• 44:35Cameron Hanes?

  Here's his jersey right here. Cam, leader of men, innovator, truth speaker.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  Epic human.

• 44:43Cameron Hanes?

  Epic human, respect and love.

• 44:46Speaker 01

  A-Rod.

• 44:47Cameron Hanes?

  A-Rod. How epic is that, dude? Fucking Aaron Rodgers. So I love, as you said, friend of the show. I'd love to see him winning. He's such a badass.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  And let me make this clear, because with Matt Johnson, you said that friend of the show is bad. There's two friends of the show. There's a bad friend of the show and there's a good friend of the show, and it's always obvious which one the person falls in.

• 45:09Cameron Hanes?

  A-Rod, friend of the show.

• 45:11Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 45:12Cameron Hanes?

  Sage Canada, friend of the show.

• 45:17Cameron Hanes?

  One's a completely freaking badass winner, stud, just everybody respects.

• 45:26Speaker 01

  The other one calls his wife his partner.

• 45:30Cameron Hanes?

  Is a twink.

• 45:34Cameron Hanes?

  But-

• 45:35Speaker 01

  I wonder if he listens to this and every time I speak, it's just my mouth moving since he has me blocked. Which, oh, by the way, Sage, you don't have me blocked on YouTube.

• 45:44Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, so you get to see all those banger videos? Are they good?

• 45:49Speaker 01

  Well, I wouldn't, that wouldn't be my first choice of word to describe them.

• 45:54Cameron Hanes?

  God, our freaking, our shit's blowing up, dude. The podcast. Did you see that stat I put up? Top, top five?

• 46:04Speaker 01

  Point five.

• 46:04Cameron Hanes?

  No, half percent. Yeah. Top, top half percent of all podcasts in the world.

• 46:10Speaker 01

  Granted, not probably 90% of podcasts are one view.

• 46:15Cameron Hanes?

  Absolute dog shit. I listened to one today. I was getting, because I ran from, I did, I did my run, Blatton Spencer's home, all the ones that my guests hate, except for Courtney. But I was listening to this podcast. I didn't want to say what it is. It was the most, biggest waste of time I have ever experienced in my life. I mean, let me think, what would be a bigger waste of time? Yeah, I don't know. Nothing.

• 46:48Speaker 01

  What was it about?

• 46:50Cameron Hanes?

  It was supposed to be about Chicago Marathon.

• 46:52Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 46:53Cameron Hanes?

  It was about fucking some coffee shop they went to. It's like, okay, first of all, I don't give a fuck about where you get coffee or what kind of coffee you like. And the story's the most boring story I've ever heard. Is that what this podcast is? It's supposed to be about running.

• 47:11Speaker 01

  Sometimes though, I think about that and I'm like, how is ours any different?

• 47:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 47:16Speaker 01

  I guess we have the right audience.

• 47:18Cameron Hanes?

  I was thinking that too, because I was like, well, I'll just sit there and talk about stupid shit.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:23Cameron Hanes?

  So are people saying that about, maybe they're saying about this?

• 47:27Speaker 01

  Probably.

• 47:28Cameron Hanes?

  Biggest waste of time? I don't know.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  Well, but-

• 47:31Cameron Hanes?

  Smash that biggest waste of time ever button.

• 47:33Speaker 01

  You gotta hit that like button. Somebody, what did they say to Mark? Oh.

• 47:41Cameron Hanes?

  Hell yeah.

• 47:42Speaker 01

  Oh, well, when I put up my story that I didn't get invited to La Soul, because I still haven't gotten that invite, guys.

• 47:50Cameron Hanes?

  Kim?

• 47:51Speaker 01

  And I get it, like, that's, you know, all of a sudden it puts a lot of pressure on them. And for Mark, you want to see him win. And if I show up, that's in jeopardy.

• 48:00Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I mean, you would upset the apple cart. And also, if it's going to be, if they allow you in, do you know all the buzz and celebrities and all the-

• 48:10Speaker 01

  It would just be so annoying.

• 48:11Cameron Hanes?

  Media nightmare they'd have to deal with.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  So Timothy, I understand. But anyways, I put that up and then Mark reposted it and

• 48:20Speaker 01

  some mom responded to him and said, Mark, this guy has a mom and a family and friends, and this probably really hurt their feelings.

• 48:33Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  Whoever you are, shout out for defending me against big bully Mark.

• 48:38Cameron Hanes?

  And also-

• 48:40Speaker 01

  Mark did trip me on loop 87, by the way.

• 48:43Cameron Hanes?

  And also, most people do have moms. So it's like, that's not really, it doesn't really set you apart, does it? He's got a mom. Okay?

• 48:51Speaker 01

  I think everybody on the planet had to come from a mom, by the way.

• 48:54Cameron Hanes?

  Well, he's not an alien. Okay. So that's cool. He's not like, wasn't born in a test tube.

• 49:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, speaking of aliens, it wasn't on my list, but the lizard people they've got in the White House are going on right now? Have you seen that?

• 49:09Cameron Hanes?

  What?

• 49:10Speaker 01

  Like that woman who's all drugged out and-

• 49:14Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, with the eyebrows? I don't even know what's going on.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  I don't either. We don't even, don't even know how to talk about it.

• 49:22Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, the, what is that person called? The press secretary?

• 49:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:28Cameron Hanes?

  She did a good job. It's like, okay, so she, she said she was a lawyer, she had a law degree, whatever, who gives a fuck? But you can't talk.

• 49:41Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, for, okay, a couple of things. Why say you're a lawyer? Because nobody cares. Say you got, you graduated from Pepperdine with a law degree. Good enough. Just leave it at that.

• 49:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:54Cameron Hanes?

  Why, why are you saying you're just, it doesn't fucking matter. You got the job because you're a hot blonde. And, okay, that's like the first requirement, but then the second one is, can you speak?

• 50:08Speaker 01

  That has to be number two.

• 50:10Cameron Hanes?

  And then are you a lawyer is probably down, I don't know, 50th? But when you can't do the number two requirement, because I'm not saying I'm, I mean, I like the Christine Drayson interview, I thought I did terrible, but-

• 50:28Speaker 01

  Well, did you apply for press secretary?

• 50:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. But, okay. So I was thinking like, sometimes I can't talk. Sometimes I, all I do is cuss. Sometimes I just rant. But if that was my job, I was thinking about, okay, I'd be so nervous. I'd be like a fucking disaster. But I'd just get up there and I'd just be like, hey, guys, a lot of pressure here. First ever time as a press secretary. So, uh, gonna do my best. Let's hit it off. This is a big honor. What do you got?

• 50:59Speaker 01

  I just start cracking jokes.

• 51:00Cameron Hanes?

  Is that fucking hard? Can-

• 51:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, be a human.

• 51:03Cameron Hanes?

  Can just to be, just to, just like be honest and-

• 51:06Speaker 01

  Instead it's-

• 51:07Cameron Hanes?

  And she's up there, my husband, Trump, Donald Trump, oh.

• 51:17Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, did Trump ever fucking talk to her? Did you ever? Has anybody like, hey, let's do a little practice run here. So your job is going to be addressing the press. Let's pretend like you're doing that right now. Did they?

• 51:33Speaker 01

  We have rehearsal dinners for weddings. Can we get one for?

• 51:39Speaker 01

  No? Okay. And then Trump endorsed. Baby.

• 51:47Cameron Hanes?

  Did he say something about him recently?

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. So we'll skip over that because I actually am enjoying life at this point.

• 51:55Cameron Hanes?

  During not getting nuked?

• 51:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I gotta make it to Lassel Ultra once Kim, you invite me. Thank you. It's probably lost in the mail. I get that. And right now, you know, Germany to the US and the US, United States Postal Service is big chaos.

• 52:09Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 52:10Speaker 01

  I probably gave you the wrong address. Maybe we should.

• 52:12Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 52:13Speaker 01

  Let's link up on that.

• 52:14Cameron Hanes?

  Let's just double confirmation.

• 52:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Maybe you confirm, I confirm that you confirmed.

• 52:22Cameron Hanes?

  Tell you what, I'll just meet you there.

• 52:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. Perfect. I'll just be there.

• 52:26Cameron Hanes?

  And I'll just make my own last soul ultra number zero, zero, seven, James G. Gideon.

• 52:35Cameron Hanes?

  Here's my bib.

• 52:35Speaker 01

  James G. Gideon.

• 52:36Cameron Hanes?

  I got my own bib.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  And it's going to be attached to my butt plug.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 52:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  Last topic. White's Meats.

• 52:46Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah. I wanted Ronnie at White's Meats. I love this. I, I wish I could remember the owner's name. Got a badass mustache.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  But Mr. White.

• 52:58Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, probably. But, uh, they do such a good job and I love Ronnie and, uh, I mean, Kevin took my, that last bull I just killed was 400 and like 41 pounds of meat or something like that. Just huge, giant bodied bull. Um, he took that, dropped that off, got all processed. Kevin brought it back on his way back down to another hunt and, uh, it's just, I mean, that salami is incredible. So you would know that because I didn't give you.

• 53:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, right. So. Maybe you and Kim can confirm.

• 53:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Double confirm how good that was and that you aren't getting any. Um, but yeah, just shout outs to White's Custom Meats there and Gresham, I think it's Gresham, Oregon. But, um, yeah.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  I know the, the bear sausage he did, that summer sausage was so good.

• 53:51Cameron Hanes?

  Love those guys. They just, I mean, I, yeah, the meat's always in perfect condition and they appreciate that. Then they do extra effort on, I don't know. I think they just do an awesome job for everybody. I wouldn't say they do extra for me, but whatever the case, the final product is amazing. Last thing, last thing.

• 54:11Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 54:11Cameron Hanes?

  Is, uh, shout out to Tanner and Cord. They packed into the Idaho wilderness, both killed bucks. Cord killed a fucking smoker, which these are just brand new wilderness, brand new area, never been there. You know, Tanner put on tons of miles. It was like, didn't seem like, seem like there's a bunch of deer there, but, uh, they both killed and cords is like a 185 inch. Got extra sticking out, just awesome buck. So.

• 54:40Speaker 01

  That's a nice buck.

• 54:41Cameron Hanes?

  And Tanner got, um, you know, got a buck on the ground and just like it's, it's just good. I mean, every time you do it, um, out by himself, breaking it down, killing it, of course, uh, packing it out. Every time you do it, you just get better and better. You learn so much about yourself and about hunting the mountains. And so, yeah. Real, really, really happy for those guys. Um.

• 55:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Tanner looked like a stud in his picture.

• 55:10Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. He's, I mean, he's like 168 right now. He's thin.

• 55:14Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's got the mountain build going on.

• 55:17Cameron Hanes?

  He said his, his, he's in shape. Um, but yeah, he's freaking tough. That's for sure.

• 55:23Speaker 01

  Well, last, last, last thing.

• 55:25Cameron Hanes?

  The last soul invite. Oh shit, the woobie or the puffy.

• 55:29Speaker 01

  The puffy. And check this out, guys.

• 55:33Speaker 01

  I don't think anybody's ready for this.

• 55:35Cameron Hanes?

  Reversible?

• 55:38Cameron Hanes?

  Holy, holy buckets.

• 55:42Speaker 01

  Chivity Christmas.

• 55:45Speaker 01

  Look at that.

• 55:46Cameron Hanes?

  Are you shitting me? I wouldn't shit you if you, you're my favorite turd.

• 55:51Cameron Hanes?

  Oh my goodness.

• 55:52Speaker 01

  Reversible.

• 55:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. You know, that is my jacket.

• 55:56Speaker 01

  It is.

• 55:56Cameron Hanes?

  And I've never had that on. And now it's got cooties.

• 56:01Speaker 01

  Doesn't it look a little tight?

• 56:03Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, well.

• 56:06Speaker 01

  But you were wearing the woobie. So.

• 56:08Cameron Hanes?

  I am, and this is sick too. So I, I think like, I don't know. Merch is kicking ass. Uh, pod's kicking ass. Oh, do we have a Bentley winner?

• 56:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:20Cameron Hanes?

  It's close, but.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:21Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So we should have the Bentley winner coming up. Um, I'll announce that and we'll get them out here and give them that car and 10,000 in cash, but.

• 56:28Speaker 01

  Bankrupt them.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  Find out next who wins the bankruptcy.

• 56:36Cameron Hanes?

  I know. Um, yeah. Free bankruptcy.

• 56:40Speaker 01

  Chapter. What?

• 56:42Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know what it is.

• 56:44Speaker 01

  Is there one? Is there?

• 56:46Cameron Hanes?

  I know it's chapter 11 is what people used to say.

• 56:48Speaker 01

  Chapter 11. Is there one through 11? I'm chapter one.

• 56:53Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know. I just started this bankruptcy process. So I'm only chapter one right now. No, I'm not sure, but, uh, point is, uh, we're kicking ass and when we kick ass, you guys kick ass because we can give away more and, um, do more stupid shit talker weeklies. Everybody gets dumber. Oh, last thing, which doesn't really fit in. Please go vote. Please go vote. As I said, I talked to Christine Drazen, the Republican candidate for Oregon governor, uh, just on Saturday. Was it Saturday?

• 57:28Speaker 01

  Saturday.

• 57:28Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And, um, yeah, she's kicking ass. She's so smart, so well prepared to, to run this shit show here in Oregon. She's got some work to do. If she wins to clean up the mess that's been, uh, created over the last 40 years, but, um, yeah, I believe, I believe in her. I believe she has what it takes to make it happen. And, you know, I'm not telling you who to vote for, but just get out and vote and, uh, if you care about Oregon.

• 57:58Speaker 01

  I'm telling you who to vote for, for the love of God and all things good.

• 58:02Cameron Hanes?

  Vote red, baby.

• 58:05Cameron Hanes?

  Uh, the way I look at it is, uh, a governor, if they're going to get a second term, they need to earn it. I don't feel like Tina has earned a second term. Um, if you look at where this, our state's ranked compared to the rest of the states in the, in the United States, we are at the bottom 50th, 49th, 46th. It's in education. It's just like, we couldn't, we almost couldn't be doing any worse. Um, so you haven't earned a second term.

• 58:31Speaker 01

  No.

• 58:32Cameron Hanes?

  It's, people have reservations about every candidate. I understand that, but Kotek had a bunch of promises. She said she's going to do this. It hasn't gotten any better. We're still at the bottom of the barrel. So you had a chance, you couldn't implement it. Not saying like you're, like she's not good enough or whatever, but for whatever the case, she couldn't get what she wanted done. So next man up, next woman up, next candidate up, whatever you want, however you want to call it, it's time, uh, for a change.

• 59:00Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 59:00Cameron Hanes?

  So get out and vote. You got till November 3rd and, uh, let's do what's right for Oregon. You know, born and raised here, lived here my whole life, just like Christine. And we care about the state. I love the state. This is home. So, um, that's why I'm kind of waiting this political fucking quagmire.

• 59:19Cameron Hanes?

  But.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  Conundrum.

• 59:20Cameron Hanes?

  God. Yeah. Yeah. I did have to introduce her at a, at an event on.

• 59:27Speaker 01

  On Saturday night?

• 59:28Cameron Hanes?

  Saturday night. Yeah. It was good. I just said, uh, well, we were back at my table talking about hunting and, uh, bobcat fur prices. And all I said was, what do you think they talk about at a Tina Kotek event? All right. Um, is that?

• 59:50Speaker 01

  That shit talker is 36.

• 59:51Cameron Hanes?

  We did it. Thanks, guys. Check out the woobies.

• 59:54Speaker 01

  Check out the puffies.

• 59:56Cameron Hanes?

  Well, thanks for the support. Thanks for like elevating this podcast up to the top half percent in the world. It's nuts, but thank you guys. All right. Until next time. Keep hammering.

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