Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)

Rob (America’s favorite heartthrob) comes straight off the plane from Fiji to the Call Her Daddy studio to relive every moment of this season of Love Island. Get ready to peel back the onion ;)

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Alex Cooper?

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• 1:28Alex Cooper?

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• 3:14Alex Cooper?

  What is up Daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.

• 3:23Alex Cooper?

  Rob, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 3:25Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 3:26Alex Cooper?

  Thank you. Thank you. Um, Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob. I feel like so many women around the world right now have so many feelings and emotions towards you. So today, we're going to really peel back the onion and we're going to get into it.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  That's good.

• 3:46Alex Cooper?

  That's good.

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Good luck.

• 3:47Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

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• 6:16Alex Cooper?

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• 6:56Speaker 01

  It's really, really strange. One of the big things is like neon isn't on everything, like neon signs, like the lights there. I got really used to just seeing that every day. I got to my hotel room and I was like, it's so dark in here.

• 7:10Alex Cooper?

  I had to like, I didn't know what you were fucking saying. You're saying like, the way the villa looks is so bright?

• 7:16Speaker 01

  You get used to it. You get used to like, just being around like, literally there's a neon sign on every surface. Like, it's like, lights up. And I got out and I was like, it's so dark out here.

• 7:24Alex Cooper?

  Okay, that's not kind of what I was asking, though. I just, I don't know. When you got your phone back,

• 7:29Speaker 01

  Oh, right.

• 7:30Alex Cooper?

  How did you like, handle all of it? Like, what did you first do when you got your phone?

• 7:33Speaker 01

  I called my family.

• 7:34Alex Cooper?

  You called your family?

• 7:35Speaker 01

  I called my family. They gave me my phone on the way to the airport, and I knew I wasn't gonna have service, so I called my family in like, a group chat FaceTime, you know?

• 7:43Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 7:43Speaker 01

  Immediately. I saw all their faces, and I was really nervous, because I was like, I was either worried that they were gonna be like, hey, Robert, how are you? But they were all like, hey, like, they were so happy to see me, and they seemed like, we're so proud of you, like, you did so good. You were yourself the whole time. And I was like, oh, what a relief.

• 8:00Alex Cooper?

  Well, because you thought there was a chance they were gonna be like, you ruined our family's reputation. You dragged our name through the rug.

• 8:06Speaker 01

  I just didn't know. Like, I didn't know, because like, it's a TV show, right?

• 8:09Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 8:09Speaker 01

  I know what happened. I was there.

• 8:11Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  I knew that I was authentic the whole time, right? But it can get clipped, and it can get edited. And like, yeah, you know?

• 8:18Alex Cooper?

  Have you checked your DMs yet?

• 8:20Speaker 01

  Um.

• 8:24Alex Cooper?

  What's going on in there, Rob?

• 8:25Speaker 01

  It's honestly like at this point, like too much to even, it's just a refresh and then it's like a new page.

• 8:31Alex Cooper?

  Do you have any like celebs in there?

• 8:33Speaker 01

  Um, I had a really good conversation with Noah from Stranger Things.

• 8:39Alex Cooper?

  That's so random.

• 8:40Speaker 01

  I, you wanna hear what I said to him?

• 8:42Alex Cooper?

  Please.

• 8:42Speaker 01

  I said the funniest thing back and I think it went over his head, but it was so funny. And then we just talked about the show. Like he was just a big fan and I just talked to him about it. Oh, wait, should I not say it? Well, he just said, he just, it was fine. He said, I love you on Unlo- on Love Island. You stole my heart. And I said,

• 8:56Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Um, thank you so much. I love Stranger Things. Thank you Noah Schnapp from the hit TV show Stranger Things. I just gave him back like a bot response. I thought it'd be really funny. And he just said, thanks, Rob. You and Leah should have won. And then we just talked about the show for a while.

• 9:10Alex Cooper?

  Is that like so surreal that like you have someone like that in your DMs?

• 9:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was also worse that like I just didn't even think about it. And I was talking to him and then my sister was like, what are you doing? And I was like, I'm actually having just a casual conversation with the guy from Stranger Things right now, but it was funny.

• 9:26Alex Cooper?

  Have any women slid in?

• 9:27Speaker 01

  A few, I'm pretty sure.

• 9:29Alex Cooper?

  Hmm.

• 9:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:30Alex Cooper?

  Hmm. Any that you're like, oh.

• 9:33Speaker 01

  Well, I think right now at this point in time, I'm, I'm pretty like emotionally drained. I don't know if I'm ready for anything.

• 9:40Alex Cooper?

  You're not ready.

• 9:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:41Alex Cooper?

  But like, good to know they're there.

• 9:42Speaker 01

  Whatever you wanna call it.

• 9:44Alex Cooper?

  Mm hmm. I saw that everyone was like up in arms on the internet about you got out of the villa and you followed Leah. And then eventually you followed all of the rest and Andrea and all of them.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:55Alex Cooper?

  But is it freak you out that like all, everyone is like seeing everything you're doing? Or do you love the attention? Come on, Rob. Look what you're wearing. You love the attention.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  I had to wear them, okay? Don't come for the overalls. I had to wear them. I saw the memes and everything and I was like, bro. I was like, you know, might as well.

• 10:13Alex Cooper?

  Okay, first talk to me about the overalls for a second. So you did bring other clothes, obviously. But like, was this the first thing you packed?

• 10:20Speaker 01

  No, I didn't even plan on wearing these. So I brought these. So, uh, Love Island, usually the intro is you're like doing your job and you get a text and you're like, oh, time to go to the villa. So I was, that's what these were for.

• 10:30Alex Cooper?

  Oh, do you wear these when you wrangle the snakes?

• 10:32Speaker 01

  Sometimes, yeah. Often, sometimes, yeah. So, so yeah, so I brought him for that part.

• 10:37Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  And then I was like, ah, fuck it. So I just threw him in the billabag that goes in. And then I wore him and I was like, dude, this is the move because BG is really hot, right? And I didn't have to wear pant, uh, shirt, basically. It was like pants, a little bib, but it's very breathable. It was comfortable.

• 10:53Alex Cooper?

  But were you feeling yourself in it too? Like, did you think the ladies were gonna love the overalls?

• 10:57Speaker 01

  No.

• 10:57Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 10:58Speaker 01

  Definitely not. They, they didn't like him there, like, it wasn't a, no.

• 11:02Alex Cooper?

  Are you currently doing D on D?

• 11:04Speaker 01

  Currently, I'm not D on D.

• 11:06Alex Cooper?

  And what is D on D to people that maybe didn't watch the season of Love Island?

• 11:09Speaker 01

  D on D is dick on denim.

• 11:11Alex Cooper?

  And can you talk about that? Cause it feels a little bit masochistic. It feels a little bit like rug burn. Do you know?

• 11:16Speaker 01

  No, no, it's not like that. You should, well, you can't try it, but, uh, I would encourage anyone out there to try D on D. It's, uh, yeah, you're penisless, so it's not gonna work for you, but it's breathable and like, it's just nice.

• 11:27Alex Cooper?

  Why did you choose to wear underwear today?

• 11:29Speaker 01

  Well, I'm wearing my lucky underwear. Thought I might need it.

• 11:32Alex Cooper?

  What is your lucky underwear? You don't need to show me. You don't need to show me. Okay, so that kinda sounds like a little bit of a kink. Like you like your dick on denim. What is some like weird shit that you like in the bedroom that's maybe a little like unexpected?

• 11:46Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna tell you that.

• 11:47Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, you have to.

• 11:48Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. I didn't know that.

• 11:51Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, that's what colored daddy is. You have to tell me. What's something like a little like off the beaten path that you like in the bedroom?

• 11:56Speaker 01

  Off the beaten path?

• 12:00Speaker 01

  What? Come on, Alex.

• 12:02Alex Cooper?

  These are, this is what the ladies want.

• 12:05Alex Cooper?

  But you, everyone in America knows you. You, you just met me. I know you.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  You don't. You think you know me.

• 12:11Alex Cooper?

  I know you.

• 12:11Speaker 01

  You know my story. You know my name and my story, but you don't know me.

• 12:14Alex Cooper?

  No, no, I saw you in the heart rate challenge. I've seen you in your cowboy outfit. I know you're getting up to some kinky shit in there.

• 12:22Speaker 01

  I mean, you're not lying. Like, I don't really wanna talk about it, like.

• 12:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay, give me like a little hint.

• 12:28Speaker 01

  I like to have sex.

• 12:32Alex Cooper?

  Rob.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  I like sex.

• 12:36Alex Cooper?

  Didn't in the beginning of the villa, you, I think it was Andrea, you looked at her and you were like, I'm sorry, like I haven't ejaculated in a really long time, like I'm having a hard time.

• 12:44Speaker 01

  That, you don't underst- I saw a clip of that and, and I think that really was a part of why I was so emotional. Going into Love Island is crazy. You don't understand. You're on no sleep.

• 12:55Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  You have no alone time, which is huge for me because that's how I process my emotions. I have to be alone.

• 13:00Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  So I couldn't figure my shit out and also I was horny as fuck.

• 13:04Alex Cooper?

  Well, you eventually came. We'll talk about that. Um, okay. Are you enjoying the attention or is it freaking you out?

• 13:09Speaker 01

  It's freaking me out.

• 13:10Alex Cooper?

  Okay. What is the biggest turn off to you?

• 13:12Speaker 01

  Bad breath.

• 13:13Alex Cooper?

  Did someone have bad breath in the villa?

• 13:15Speaker 01

  I'm not, yeah, but I'm not telling you.

• 13:18Alex Cooper?

  No. And did everyone know about it?

• 13:21Speaker 01

  No.

• 13:21Alex Cooper?

  Only you?

• 13:22Speaker 01

  No, it wasn't in the villa. Fuck, I can't say it anymore.

• 13:26Alex Cooper?

  Okay, moving on.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  All right.

• 13:27Alex Cooper?

  Um, how do you think the women, obviously like everyone's having feelings about you as you've gotten your phone? How do you think the women are feeling about you in America?

• 13:36Speaker 01

  Um, okay, basically I'm a toxic gaslighter, but I'm hot enough that it doesn't matter. That's like the, that's it. That's the consensus I've gotten. I've seen so many TikToks of like, this man is a red flag. He's terrible. I hate him. I can't stop looking at him. I love him so much. Like it's like just weird.

• 13:58Alex Cooper?

  How does that make you feel?

• 13:59Speaker 01

  I feel like it's not true.

• 14:01Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 14:01Speaker 01

  But it's kind of true.

• 14:04Speaker 01

  I'm not, I, I don't feel like I gas, I don't feel like.

• 14:07Alex Cooper?

  Feel like I do, but maybe I do. I don't know.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  I, that's exactly how I feel. I haven't processed it yet. Like I, did I do everything right? Absolutely not.

• 14:14Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 14:14Speaker 01

  I make mistakes a hundred percent. Do I regret things I did? I think every decision I made, I would have eventually made. I think I was put in these like small timeframes where my issue was my communication.

• 14:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  And it partly was because I didn't know how I was feeling.

• 14:30Alex Cooper?

  Okay, to your credit, I will say to you, I feel like you were upfront at all times with everyone and maybe you weren't like. The most articulate and like long form sentences about it, but you did tell people upfront how you were feeling in moments.

• 14:46Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 14:47Alex Cooper?

  Even if it upset people, which I feel like there were other people in the villa that like would skirt around the truth because they knew it was gonna hurt someone really. It's like, just tell people the fucking truth. So you don't look like a piece of shit because all of this is on camera. You know what I mean?

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 14:58Alex Cooper?

  Um, okay. I agree with you on the conflicted thing. I think people are like, I'm in love with him, but I feel like he'd break my heart slash maybe he's a little bit of a red flag. What is it like to date you, Rob? Take us through the journey. Like, what do you think it's like to date you?

• 15:15Speaker 01

  I don't love people.

• 15:16Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  I'm not a people person. Um, but I love my friends. Hmm. How do I get into this? Okay, let's say, all right, let's say we're gonna go on a date.

• 15:28Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  Let's just say first date.

• 15:29Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  I would like prefer to do something where it's just the two of us and like quiet. We get to know each other. Like, I'm not like a big concert guy. I don't like going to the club. I'll go to a bar, but even then I'm like, there's too many people here.

• 15:44Alex Cooper?

  Uh huh.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  Um.

• 15:45Alex Cooper?

  So what's your ideal first date?

• 15:46Speaker 01

  I would say like a picnic.

• 15:48Alex Cooper?

  Picnic?

• 15:49Speaker 01

  I like a good picnic.

• 15:50Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 15:50Speaker 01

  Go to the creek, go to the river, go to the beach.

• 15:54Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  Bodies of water are typically good for picnics.

• 15:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  I find.

• 15:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Okay. I guess if all of your exes were in this room right now, what would they say about you?

• 16:03Speaker 01

  I think

• 16:06Speaker 01

  the, my last girlfriend would have a lot of good things to say and a lot of bad things to say. The one before that, same. I think same. I think, I think with my last relationship, I mean, I don't want to talk too much because like that's her business too, but like, I think the wheels kind of fell off at the end. And it went longer than it should have. And I think that was like really, it came down to like communication and, and I think it was hugely on me. Um, and it's like one of my biggest regrets, uh, is like putting her through the months of like the end of our relationship, like,

• 16:42Speaker 01

  yeah, cuz I did love her and like, I, I fully believe she loved me too. And it was like, just knowing you did that to someone that you care about.

• 16:48Alex Cooper?

  What, you just like weren't communicating with her how you were feeling?

• 16:51Speaker 01

  I, I just was like.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Depress.

• 16:55Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  And that's not an excuse.

• 16:56Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  When you care about somebody, you still have to like figure that out, but like I I didn't know how I felt about myself. And I just couldn't give her what she needed. And I just should have walked away way sooner.

• 17:06Alex Cooper?

  How long was that relationship?

• 17:08Speaker 01

  It was about two years.

• 17:10Alex Cooper?

  Okay, is that your longest?

• 17:11Speaker 01

  On and off, like we broke up, we got back together.

• 17:13Alex Cooper?

  It was one of those.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  It wasn't a lot. I think we broke up twice.

• 17:16Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 17:17Speaker 01

  But like, yeah, it wasn't like back and forth, back and forth.

• 17:20Alex Cooper?

  How long has been your longest relationship that? Okay, so it was communication.

• 17:26Speaker 01

  Largely.

• 17:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay, we'll get back to that. Um, this was not your first time on Love Island. You were in Casa Moore last season, but you didn't make it out of the villa. Why did you want to go back to the show?

• 17:36Speaker 01

  I just, they called me. They said, what are you doing? And I was literally saving a turtle crossing the road. I was in a great mood. I was on my way to Arkansas to go catch a bunch of snakes. I was wearing these overalls, like true story. I was wearing these overalls. I had just caught a copperhead. I was on cloud nine. I was having a great day. And someone called me, they're like, hey, Rob, what are you doing? You single? I said, why? Interested? And uh, and they're like, no, you want to come back to Love Island? I was like.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  I thought about it and I was like, you know what? Like my plan for the summer was just to catch snakes all summer and just like make videos and stuff. And I was just like. Ah, fuck it. Like I'm not really doing anything. Might as well. I'd love to find a girlfriend. Didn't work out.

• 18:16Alex Cooper?

  So you were looking for a girlfriend? Were you looking for a wife or do you not think you're there yet?

• 18:20Speaker 01

  I'm looking for a girlfriend that I would marry.

• 18:22Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 18:23Speaker 01

  Like, like I do, I do. I'm like dating to marry at this point.

• 18:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 18:27Speaker 01

  And that's why I'm not wasting anyone's time. Like I'm not gonna get. Into something that I, if at any point I don't see that future progressing to that, like I'm gonna get out.

• 18:35Alex Cooper?

  How many times have you been in love?

• 18:38Speaker 01

  I think once.

• 18:39Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  I told two of my girlfriends that I loved them. And I think I meant it with the girl.

• 18:44Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 18:45Speaker 01

  But then I, I realized I really meant it with.

• 18:48Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:49Alex Cooper?

  Do you think that your ex-girlfriend watched the season of Love Island?

• 18:51Speaker 01

  No, definitely not, but she definitely saw stuff.

• 18:55Alex Cooper?

  Okay, it's time to relive it. Let's go through it. Let's go through Love Island. Let's, don't look so sad.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  Can I light this candle?

• 19:02Alex Cooper?

  If, for sure. Do we have a lighter?

• 19:03Speaker 01

  You don't need one.

• 19:04Alex Cooper?

  Oh, I don't know if you can do how, I don't think it will work. I don't think, I don't think so. Oh, okay.

• 19:15Alex Cooper?

  You're trying to set the vibe so you can like be calm.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'm just calm.

• 19:19Alex Cooper?

  Are you anxious right now?

• 19:20Speaker 01

  Um, it just, I'm just uncomfortable.

• 19:24Alex Cooper?

  Why?

• 19:24Speaker 01

  I don't know. I like you though.

• 19:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I like you too. Do you want to like?

• 19:28Speaker 01

  No, I'm fine.

• 19:29Alex Cooper?

  Take your shoes off?

• 19:30Speaker 01

  Nope.

• 19:30Alex Cooper?

  Or do you want like a blanket?

• 19:32Speaker 01

  Um.

• 19:32Alex Cooper?

  Do you want anything to make you cozier? Don't be anxious. I promise you, you're doing great.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Oh, thanks.

• 19:37Alex Cooper?

  You're doing really good. We've got a blankie?

• 19:39Speaker 01

  No, it's okay. I don't need it. I don't need a blanket, no.

• 19:40Alex Cooper?

  Why are you uncomfortable?

• 19:42Speaker 01

  I just, I just, um, I'm not uncomfortable.

• 19:44Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 19:45Speaker 01

  I'm, I lied.

• 19:46Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 19:47Speaker 01

  I'm fine.

• 19:47Alex Cooper?

  So you are a liar. I'm just kidding. Um, okay, but you're just uncomfortable because this is a lot for you. It's like new.

• 19:54Speaker 01

  It's very fresh. And like I said, like it takes me a while to process.

• 19:57Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 19:58Speaker 01

  My emotions and how I feel about everything. And right now, I think some of the things I'm not really, like I'm not, I haven't processed it. So like this is, I mean, I just got back from Fiji. I just left.

• 20:07Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 20:08Speaker 01

  And so like right now is, it makes me nervous to talk about these things because like emotions are kind of high and like I just don't want to like.

• 20:14Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Well, I think it's, yeah, I think it's fair that we can say for everyone watching, like to clarify again, like you literally got on a plane. You got your phone on your way to the airport. You got on the plane. You landed here and we're doing this. Like, this is not like a month later or even like a week later. Like you have barely had time to like even see all the fan edits on TikTok. You know what I mean?

• 20:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:36Alex Cooper?

  Like this is fresh. So I think that's good to clarify. And like when we're talking about this, it's almost like you're still on the island. And I'm sure if I interviewed you a month from now, you're going to have a complete different perspective.

• 20:45Speaker 01

  That's exactly what I'm thinking. And so like that makes me nervous.

• 20:48Alex Cooper?

  We'll do a follow up.

• 20:49Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 20:49Alex Cooper?

  So we'll compare notes from now to a month from now or a year from now. Where will Rob be in a year from now? We'll talk about it. Um, okay. You get into the villa. You're an original cast member. And the first person that you are coupled up with on day one is Leah. What was your first impression of her?

• 21:08Speaker 01

  I really liked her a lot. I felt like. I I think it's pretty obvious that I'm a bit odd and I can be hard to read and I think it's hard for people to understand me, especially my humor. She got it right away and I loved that. I loved that. And I also thought she was really funny. And obviously she's gorgeous.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  But seriously, from the first night when I walked in there, we just kept like locking eyes. And I was like, man, I really hope that we get coupled up tonight and we did.

• 21:36Alex Cooper?

  And how long were you guys in the villa alone together before Andrea came in? Two days?

• 21:41Speaker 01

  Well, like, yeah, technically, like, it felt like a week, but it wasn't because Liv came in and stole me first. But that was like, I mean, like, I was with, like, there was never a moment where I thought I was gonna go with Liv instead of Leah. Like, it kind of got clipped that way, but like, I was telling Leah the whole time. I was like, you have nothing to worry about. Cause I was shocked when Liv picked me. Like, we all were. We all were so sure she was gonna pick Kendall.

• 22:05Alex Cooper?

  Yes, I agree. I I was pretty shocked too. And then you were like, you and Leah were pretty upset. Like, you wanted to make your way back to each other, kind of. And like, we could feel that in the beginning. I think we could all feel like you guys really liked each other. And you guys shared a brain cell. Can you fucking explain what that means?

• 22:20Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't remember how that went down. I just know that it was a thing and that we would give it to each other when we were talking because we were like, it was a lot. I mean, like, we didn't sleep the first night. Like, we were like, it's insane. I'm telling you, it's an insane experience that's like built to get your emotions up. Which is like, is good. That's how it works. It's like putting a relationship in a microwave. Like, you know someone for a week, you feel like you know them for a month. Like, it's crazy.

• 22:45Alex Cooper?

  Well, then Andrea comes in and I remember you're sitting at the fire pit and you're like, oh, my God, that is the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life.

• 22:54Speaker 01

  Did I say that, actually?

• 22:55Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, you said that. You were at the fire pit and you turned to the guys. You're like, that's the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life. You also told.

• 23:01Speaker 01

  They did. They put in the whole clip clip because it was that. I said, I hope she has a terrible personality.

• 23:05Alex Cooper?

  You did say, you did. Yes. And then, but you also told Leah that you weren't attracted to blondes.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  I don't like blondes.

• 23:12Alex Cooper?

  So then what was different?

• 23:13Speaker 01

  She's not a blonde. She's brunette. She has blonde hair, but she's not a blonde.

• 23:17Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 23:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. She's got brown eyes, dark features. She's not a blonde.

• 23:21Alex Cooper?

  But she's currently a blonde.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it doesn't, come on, it's not the hair. That's not what makes you blonde or brunette, to me.

• 23:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay. I was just curious because obviously Leah was like, what the fuck? He said he wasn't into blondes. And then we have Liv and then we have Andrea.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  Well, also, like, I don't follow like a rubric of like, She has blonde hair done like that's not I don't really when people ask me I say I don't have a type.

• 23:43Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 23:44Speaker 01

  But I do typically like brunettes.

• 23:45Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 23:46Speaker 01

  Like my track record definitely more depressed. Yeah.

• 23:49Alex Cooper?

  So when Andrea comes in, what was your first impression like during your first conversations with her?

• 23:54Speaker 01

  Um, first conversation. It was nice, but it wasn't like romantic like I didn't feel I enjoyed talking to her. Like we apparently talked for like a really long time.

• 24:05Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  And I didn't realize that we were talking that long. So like it went really well. Um, but it wasn't like, it wasn't like, I was, I was still like pretty all in on Leah at that point.

• 24:15Alex Cooper?

  Okay. You can imagine how that's confusing though, because you were spending a lot of time with her.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  Well, we had, we literally just had that one convo.

• 24:23Alex Cooper?

  That was it?

• 24:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, before, before the next day she took me on a date, but that night we just had one.

• 24:29Alex Cooper?

  One conversation.

• 24:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:30Alex Cooper?

  And so you decided to be upfront with Leah that you were kind of feeling Andrea in that moment, which I do think everyone like appreciated that you were upfront about it. You were like, I'm really still feeling you, Leah, but I do want to get to know her and I'd be lying if I didn't.

• 24:42Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 24:43Alex Cooper?

  Were you afraid to have that conversation with Leah?

• 24:45Speaker 01

  Of course, because I didn't want to hurt her. I still really liked her. Like I was like. That's something I think that people don't understand. Like there was never a point where I stopped liking Leah. And when, well, I guess we'll get to that, but yeah.

• 24:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay, but as you can imagine from Leah's perspective, like that sucks to be like, I'm gonna get to know someone. And it's like, oh, fuck, I'm not good enough that like you want to go try something different, obviously. Were you worried that you would lose her?

• 25:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely. It was stressing me out. Like it was stressing me out. Because I was, I told myself. That I was going to get to know every girl and I was going to try to figure out who was going to be my best, best match, no matter how much I liked the girl I was with.

• 25:25Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 25:25Speaker 01

  Because that's what the love I experienced, that's what you're supposed to do.

• 25:28Alex Cooper?

  Yep.

• 25:28Speaker 01

  And that, you know, that's what they tell you. And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna do that. And so I, I was like, I gotta, and it was like a good enough conversation where I was like, I'm giving this a chance. Like. I'm just gonna see where it goes.

• 25:40Alex Cooper?

  The love island experience is odd, like it's, it's not normal, like in the real world when you're single.

• 25:47Speaker 01

  You would never do that.

• 25:48Alex Cooper?

  But are you usually at least talking to like a couple of people at once? Like, do you have like a little roster?

• 25:53Speaker 01

  Not really. I'm not really like. I don't like talking to people that much, so like it's usually.

• 25:59Alex Cooper?

  Are you bad texter?

• 26:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm terrible on my phone, yeah.

• 26:03Alex Cooper?

  So how do you communicate with your girlfriends?

• 26:05Speaker 01

  Calling FaceTime is usually much better.

• 26:07Alex Cooper?

  Are you a FaceTamer or a caller?

• 26:08Speaker 01

  I'm a caller, but I will FaceTime.

• 26:10Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  Cause, yeah.

• 26:12Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so in real life, though, you don't usually have like a couple women. Are people gonna come forward and be like, what are you talking about?

• 26:18Speaker 01

  I mean, yeah, like it's definitely, it's definitely happened, like I've definitely been, but I mean, that's when you're single, like, yeah, you're getting to get to know multiple people at a time, but like, it's not like. I've never like dated multiple women.

• 26:28Alex Cooper?

  Would you consider yourself a romantic person?

• 26:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm a romantic heart for sure.

• 26:32Alex Cooper?

  What is the most romantic thing you've ever done for a girl?

• 26:35Speaker 01

  Probably took her to catch turtles at two AM.

• 26:39Alex Cooper?

  Do you think that was your dream or her dream?

• 26:41Speaker 01

  I don't know, it seemed pretty special to me. The moon was out and it was like, it was really nice. I enjoyed it a lot. It's quiet. It's kinda scary, so she's like, wants to be close and it's like, I don't know, turtles are cute.

• 26:55Alex Cooper?

  They are cute.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:56Alex Cooper?

  That's cute.

• 26:57Speaker 01

  I don't know, most romantic thing, I can't think of that off the top of my head. I, I used to, I like making things a lot.

• 27:02Alex Cooper?

  Okay, like what?

• 27:03Speaker 01

  Um, I made a emerald necklace for my first girlfriend from an emerald that I mined in North Carolina, I think.

• 27:13Alex Cooper?

  Wow, that's romantic.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I like making stuff. I'm, I'm crafty, like that.

• 27:20Alex Cooper?

  Okay, that's a good answer.

• 27:22Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 27:22Alex Cooper?

  Um, back to Love Island.

• 27:24Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 27:24Alex Cooper?

  The love triangle was clearly short-lived. And can you walk me through the infamous conversation with Leah? Where she goes to basically confront you and is like, hey, what the fuck, like, I feel like you're spending time with her and then it blows up and the whole thing just. It was basically like the last conversation that ended your guys' relationship romantically.

• 27:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, wait, oh, the one where I jumped in the pool?

• 27:48Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 27:50Alex Cooper?

  That was kind of like.

• 27:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 27:52Alex Cooper?

  The breaking point. Okay, take me to that conversation.

• 27:54Speaker 01

  It wasn't for me at all. If it seemed that way, that's not how it was really. It was like, I don't know, I haven't seen it, so I don't know, but I've seen clips, obviously, like on TikTok and stuff. Um, I feel like it was condensed down to like, I don't know how long, but like, it was a pretty long conversation. That slowly got worse and worse and worse and worse and it was kind of. Like Leah was coming at me, like saying what she was saying, which I thought was like perfectly valid. And I kept telling her that. I was like, I get where you're coming from. And like, I'm trying to see from your perspective, because I get that this is hurting you. It would hurt me too if I was in your shoes. And then every time I tried to talk, she kept like cutting me off and she wouldn't let me speak. And and then it started, I started getting emotional.

• 28:39Speaker 01

  And then I was like, I just need to step away. And then I started crying. And I was like, bro, what the fuck are you doing? And I think just crying induced like a panic attack. Like I was just, I was, I was fully freaking out. I was fully freaking out. And then I kind of got it together. I went back down, sat with her. And she just started talking again, like saying the same things. And and just didn't like, like what, what set me off was she just didn't ask me like how I felt. Which I think that triggered a lot of people. They were like, it matters more what she feels in that moment. And a hundred percent, I was the one causing this situation.

• 29:14Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 29:14Speaker 01

  And I was taking responsibility for that. I was trying to. But also like, I just needed someone just to check on me in that, in that moment. And I, and for me, up until that moment, she was that person. And I kind of felt like just that she didn't care at all, which isn't true.

• 29:29Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 29:29Speaker 01

  It was just, she was really upset. And she rightfully so.

• 29:32Alex Cooper?

  I feel like that was like a classic, like you both were so hurt. And when you were both speaking to each other, you both needed the other one to validate the other one. And you both were so hurt that like you couldn't do that because you needed the person to be like, no, you're right. And neither of you could give that because you were so upset.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:52Alex Cooper?

  But why do you think you had a panic attack? Like what was it that was causing you so much angst?

• 29:56Speaker 01

  It was everything. It was, it was knowing that I was gonna have to choose between these two girls. One that I just met, but I was really like, want to give a chance and I liked. And then Leah that I've just been so, it's been great the whole time. And honestly, like, I had no idea what I was gonna do. I really like, I like, and I didn't know, it's very short windows of time where you have to make decisions and stuff. And like, I knew Leah wasn't going anywhere.

• 30:19Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  So, I don't know. I fucked up. I was just like, I think honestly, had that not happened, I probably would have stayed with Leah, I think. Cause that was, after that happened, I was like, I was like, well, that was terrible. And then at that point, like my head was.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  I feel like after that, my gut was telling me like, like you should just go with Andrea. But my head was still like.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  You really get on with Leah.

• 30:50Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 30:50Speaker 01

  Like it's really good, but I was hurt and I should, I, I wish I could have just. Something I needed to hear in that moment that I wish someone would have came up into me and said was. Advice that I gave everyone else later down the road was you need to just take yourself out of Love Island for like 10 minutes. And just realize you just met these girls. It's not that big of a deal. Why are you so emotional? Like really like pick it apart because I didn't know. I was like, why am I crying so much? I like, and I, I thought that, but I didn't take myself out of it completely. And I think if I had done that. I think it would have been a lot different.

• 31:26Alex Cooper?

  Okay, but to your guys' credit, like it's like you guys are in this like experiment box and like you can't take yourself out of it. That's the.

• 31:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:34Alex Cooper?

  Beauty and the hard part of it. Like I get it. You're like, wait, if I had gotten to just like go home for five minutes and like talk to my family and hung out. I would have come back in and been like, listen, ladies, like let's all get to know each other. It's not that deep. Whoever picks who, like we're all still here. Let's just keep hanging. It like we've known each other for 24 hours. Like, but in the moment, it's so intense because it's also fucking with people's like. Time while you're there and can someone almost get sent home? Like it's so many dynamics that like it is heightened. Um, you made a pretty fucked comment in that conversation about how there was no sexual connection.

• 32:11Speaker 01

  I did not say that.

• 32:12Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  I did not say there's no sexual connection.

• 32:15Alex Cooper?

  You weren't feeling the sexual connection between you and Leah.

• 32:18Speaker 01

  Did I say those words?

• 32:19Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  Was that exactly what I said?

• 32:21Alex Cooper?

  You said, I mean, we can look, look it up. You said basically like you were not feeling the sexual relationship.

• 32:27Speaker 01

  I, yeah, it was a, I felt like our, we weren't like, we didn't know what each other wanted. Like it was kind of like a weird thing.

• 32:34Alex Cooper?

  Cause that you guys like you had made out, right?

• 32:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, we made out like a couple of times and it was good. It, it wasn't bad. I would just like, I don't know why that came up, but uh. But yeah, I was just letting her know, like I I'm in that it there, like you said. Anything you don't say to somebody is wasting their time and like like I felt like I needed to be as transparent with everyone as I could.

• 32:53Alex Cooper?

  And so what were you feeling? Cause you clearly have a sexual connection with her, no? Or no?

• 32:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it wasn't like. I feel like we didn't click sexually. Does that make sense? Found her really attractive, everything, but when we kissed and stuff, it was like. It felt like she was holding back. She told me and she said she was like, she said, oh, that's because. She said it was because the first night when we had our first kiss. I said, please be gentle. I was joking. Before we kissed. And she said, that's why she said that from then on, she like would like hesitate, like kissing me and stuff. And she said, that was why.

• 33:27Alex Cooper?

  And do you think if that?

• 33:28Speaker 01

  I was like, I was like, well, that makes sense, because that's what it felt like. It felt like. I couldn't tell if she wanted to kiss me whenever we would we like make out and I'm like. Does she want to stop? Like, I couldn't tell. It was really weird. And I'm glad I told her because. Well, I don't think we made out again after that, but. But I I told her that and she was like, oh, yeah, I was holding back. Um, because you said that the first time we kissed, I was like, that was a joke.

• 33:49Alex Cooper?

  Cause I think obviously like that. Suck to see because I on her side, just like as a girl, you're like, fuck, like, there's no rebuttal. It's like saying you have no chemistry with someone.

• 33:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, but am I wrong for like telling her that?

• 34:01Alex Cooper?

  No, no.

• 34:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:03Alex Cooper?

  And I think she. Understandably. Was so upset by that comment and then she slept outside that night because I think she went to Serena after that was like, I literally feel like what the fuck like I feel like. Gross, like, I'm like, oh, my God, am I not sexually attractive to him? But that's not what you were saying.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  Not at all. And I told her that.

• 34:20Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  You got to understand these conversations. They're like max five minutes long.

• 34:25Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 34:25Speaker 01

  That was at least an hour.

• 34:27Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  At the very least, there's probably more of us talking up there.

• 34:30Alex Cooper?

  In that moment, when I was watching and you can clarify. It felt also like. You were saying that. And I could be wrong, but I feel like the viewers kind of felt this way and you. You when you shared that with her, you used that an example of like. Why you basically were gonna maybe like try and make things work with Andrea.

• 34:49Speaker 01

  I mean. Maybe. But no. Like it was more of just telling her. Everything about us like on the table. So if that did happen. Like she understands where I'm at like I didn't want I didn't want to blindside anyone. And I feel like I I ended up blindsiding her because I didn't get the chance to talk to her before the recoupling thing that was like. That's one of my biggest regrets is I should have insisted because I I wasn't able to get to her. And I should have been like, no, we're not, I need to talk to Leah before this, like, because I knew it was gonna happen, but yeah.

• 35:21Alex Cooper?

  Can you explain that you weren't able to get to her like they they physically put you in different rooms and you can't see people? Oh, are you not allowed to talk about?

• 35:27Speaker 01

  I can't talk about it, yeah.

• 35:29Alex Cooper?

  Really? I feel like everyone knows that. Okay, so I'm gonna.

• 35:31Speaker 01

  It's, yeah.

• 35:32Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I'll just assume that you guys are like it separated.

• 35:35Speaker 01

  I wasn't able to talk to her, that's all I can say. Like, I didn't get the, I didn't get the chance.

• 35:39Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  I didn't get the chance to talk to her.

• 35:40Alex Cooper?

  And can we just like finish the conversation on how everyone thought that you were potentially crying to manipulate the situation? I think a lot of people looked at the situation like, wow, he's in a position of power. He's getting to pick between these two women if anyone should.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  And he's crying, yeah, it's ridiculous.

• 35:55Alex Cooper?

  And he's crying, like, fucking Leah should be crying if anyone's crying, but she didn't, obviously.

• 35:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:59Alex Cooper?

  And so people were struggling to know if the tears were genuine or if they were like a manipulation tactic to like make it look kind of like, oh, I'm, this sucks for me too, and like, kind of get you out unscathed. What do you say to that?

• 36:12Speaker 01

  That's completely not true. I mean, you can ask anyone. That I would never, never want to cry like. No, definitely not. That was completely genuine.

• 36:23Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  Unfortunately.

• 36:24Alex Cooper?

  Um.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  I wish it didn't happen at all.

• 36:26Alex Cooper?

  The pool. Was there nowhere else to go?

• 36:29Speaker 01

  So this is one of those things I should, so in my head, I wasn't planning on going to the pool. But I saw it, I walked down the stairs, I saw it, I was like, oh, I had noticed earlier that day, you could go up under the deck. And there's no cameras, there are no mics, I just wanted to be alone. I was like, fuck this shit. And I was like, alright, I'm going in there. And so I took my clothes off, I jumped in, I went in there, and then I got in there and I was like, they probably think I'm killing myself or something.

• 36:51Alex Cooper?

  I was gonna say.

• 36:52Speaker 01

  I was like, this is a terrible idea. This was an awful idea. So then I got out and then I just walked out. And that's what I should have done. I should have just walked out. Because I needed to be alone. That's what I needed. But I knew they were gonna stop me. I knew if I walked out, they were gonna like, stop me, whatever, but I knew there. I get in the pool, like, what are they gonna do? Fish me out? Like, but yeah, it was, it was, yeah. Hindsight, not the best choice.

• 37:11Alex Cooper?

  What do you think your biggest flaw is when it comes to dating?

• 37:15Speaker 01

  Probably.

• 37:17Speaker 01

  My biggest flaw, it's hard to pick one.

• 37:19Alex Cooper?

  Oh, okay, let's list a couple, we're here.

• 37:21Speaker 01

  I think, I think I definitely learned from this that I have an issue with letting people in. Um, and letting my walls down. I think I also struggle with like communication and I struggle with, I think I procrastinate. My feelings. I think I'm feeling them, but I don't, I don't process them in my brain. Until I have to. And that is probably one of the biggest things, like that's what I think happened with the Leah and Andre situation where I think if I had just like. But then again, I was never alone and I have to be alone to do that kind of thing. And I think if I was able to do that, it could have been so much better. I could have communicated to Leah a lot better. Because something about it is like, you can recouple, but it doesn't mean it's over. And I still had those feelings for Leah and I think if I could have talked to her about it. I don't know what would have happened, but like it would have been different.

• 38:03Alex Cooper?

  Why do you think you have such a hard time with letting people in?

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Probably just the way I grew up.

• 38:07Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 38:08Speaker 01

  Probably just like.

• 38:09Alex Cooper?

  Share.

• 38:09Speaker 01

  Kind of, well, like I'm, I'm a family, I'm one of four and I was just always more the quiet one, kept to myself, didn't really. I was just like the middle child. There's four of us, but I was like, you know what I mean? Like I just was like. Kind of independent.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  And I think a lot of times I just felt like people didn't care. So like I just didn't ever. And I still feel like that. I feel like people don't care because they don't like realistically, most people don't give a shit. Like they'll ask you, but they don't really care. So I just don't waste my time in telling people like usually. I just kind of like keep on going until I, I feel like it's. Something that matters, I guess.

• 38:45Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  You know, that's why I, I think it's only in one-on-one conversations that I can like actually let my walls, walls down and talk. Cause I think I, I gave every girl a chance and I tried my best. But I like, looking back, I was like, damn, especially like after the Andre and Leah thing, it just like tightened me up even more like. Cause I, I hurt them and I knew that and it was my fault, like.

• 39:03Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 39:04Speaker 01

  I fucked up. Um, and I just, it was hard for me to like keep going after that.

• 39:09Alex Cooper?

  I think people felt that you kind of like shut off after all that happened. Do you, are your parents still together?

• 39:16Speaker 01

  They got divorced like two years ago.

• 39:17Alex Cooper?

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  It's okay.

• 39:19Alex Cooper?

  What is your relationship like with your mom?

• 39:21Speaker 01

  It's really good.

• 39:22Alex Cooper?

  And your dad?

• 39:23Speaker 01

  It's good.

• 39:23Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 39:24Speaker 01

  It's good. Yeah. My mom is a lot like me. She's like very witty and funny. Um, she's hilarious. You would love her. Uh, and then my dad is, he really artistic and he's very handsome and that's like his thing.

• 39:38Alex Cooper?

  He's really handsome.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:40Alex Cooper?

  And that's his thing.

• 39:41Speaker 01

  You should, yeah, yeah, he is. But well, no, and being an artist, he's an artist.

• 39:44Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so you kinda got like a little bit of.

• 39:46Speaker 01

  I did. I got both. I got both those things. So that's good. I got, I got some of their best traits and I got both of their worst traits.

• 39:51Alex Cooper?

  What are their worst traits?

• 39:52Speaker 01

  My mom is really emotional and sometimes says like, says and like thinks things emotionally sometimes, which I do, which I've really worked on. Like, I think. And then, um, yeah, I got some stuff from my dad too.

• 40:09Alex Cooper?

  You're like, I don't wanna say what I got from my dad moving on. That's fine. I, I respect it. Um, is there a theme? I know you kinda talk about communication, but I wanna know a little bit more. Like, is there a theme of why every relationship you've had has ended?

• 40:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think, I think there is. I don't, this is really gonna be sad, but it's just, I don't think that I can, I've, I've been able to let someone all the way in.

• 40:31Alex Cooper?

  And what do you feel when you like start, like someone starts to get close to you?

• 40:34Speaker 01

  I feel like I reach a point and they just keep going and I can't.

• 40:37Alex Cooper?

  Why do you think that is?

• 40:38Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 40:39Alex Cooper?

  Try.

• 40:40Speaker 01

  I didn't know this was gonna be that deep. Also, I need to turn my phone off.

• 40:43Alex Cooper?

  Turn it off.

• 40:45Alex Cooper?

  You're not allowed to look at your phone when I ask you a deep question. Go ahead.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  Why do I think that is? I think I have, gosh, this is really, I thought this was gonna be more fun. Um, I don't know.

• 40:57Alex Cooper?

  It'll be, it'll get fun.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  I think I, I think I need.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  Therapy.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  To be honest.

• 41:08Alex Cooper?

  I think that's.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  Therapy, yeah.

• 41:10Alex Cooper?

  I think that's a good answer, right?

• 41:12Speaker 01

  I think, I don't love me. And I really don't give a shit what people say about me because mostly time, I'm saying it to myself already. Like when I got out, I saw all the horrible things people were saying about me and I was like, huh, beat you to the punch. Like I've been saying that shit this whole time. So I think I need to get over that before I can like really, and I've, I'm a lot better. I'm way better than I used to be. I used to be like really bad, like I'm my number one. I'm just hard on myself and I think that comes with being an artist. I, I consider myself an artist. I love creating things. I love making things. And I think that's just part of the mentality is like, you can always be better. Like it's never perfect.

• 41:47Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 41:48Speaker 01

  Which is not a good mentality to have. Like you can't be perfect. It's literally impossible. Um, but I know I'm very far from perfect and I'm starting to accept it more and more. And I think like, I don't know, I've, I've like hurt people in the past. Like I, like I said with my last girlfriend, like I fucking hurt her. And it still tears me up like, and it's completely my fault. There's no one to blame but me. There's no good excuse for it. And it's just like, fuck, I just carry it around. I, yeah.

• 42:19Alex Cooper?

  I appreciate though, and I think a lot of people watching this will appreciate Rob, that you're like, you do take accountability in what you're, you're saying, you're like, I know I fucked up. I know I'm the one that fucked up. I, I want to like figure out my shit. There's so many people, one of your friends that we saw this season that like, doesn't take accountability and is like acting like, no, I didn't do that. Like, what are you talking about? I didn't do that. Like you're like, no, I did that and I fucked up and I don't know why the fuck I did that. Like I think that's progress. I think that's like the first step to actually like understanding why the fuck you make certain decisions.

• 42:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:56Alex Cooper?

  Right?

• 42:56Speaker 01

  I, I try to be a good person. I really do. Do I think I'm a good person? Yeah, actually, yeah, I do think I am a good person. I, I, I think of others often and I try. But I'm not perfect and I mess up. And I want to be better, I guess, is what I'm saying. Like, I I've never been at a point in my life where I'm like, this is as good as it gets. I'm like this. But no, I I always want to keep getting better, and I think I have.

• 43:19Alex Cooper?

  Do you think that this process made you realize more that you want to keep working on yourself?

• 43:25Speaker 01

  Hundred percent. I mean, like, I I was working on myself before it, but like, that that's one of the valuable things I got from this is I I was able to look at myself in conflict. Like, how do I react in like when I'm angry? How do I act when I'm really hurt? Like, I can literally go and watch it like,

• 43:41Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 43:42Speaker 01

  Um, and that's like super valuable. It really is because you can see, and that's something that Leah got from this too.

• 43:48Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 43:48Speaker 01

  Because Leah was, I mean, she said some awful things about me and claimed to never have said them when she told, talked to me.

• 43:55Alex Cooper?

  Like what?

• 43:55Speaker 01

  That she said?

• 43:56Alex Cooper?

  Mm hmm.

• 43:56Speaker 01

  That was a little bitch and that I gave her the ick because of it and like, just like so some crazy shit that I've I've, I mean, I've seen some clips. But she never admitted to that once until movie night. Like, she's she said she didn't say that. And then at one point, she's like, I may have said some things. And I was like, but I fully, fully believe Leah didn't. She didn't. Like, I think she says things that when she gets emotional. And then it just never happened. Like, she doesn't actually feel it. She didn't say it. I think that kind of happens with her. At least, I don't know, in that in that regard.

• 44:29Alex Cooper?

  I feel like your thing this season was like you run when things get a little hard. Like, you physically run under the pool. You would like walk away from things. You would go to Soul Ties by yourself and like stand there and like, I think you, do you do that in your real life? Like, do you kind of like, remove yourself when things are getting a little complicated or heightened?

• 44:49Speaker 01

  I would say, yeah, at times, but also I would say, I have to do that sometimes because like I said, I I'm serious. If you were just sitting in a room with me, I wouldn't be able to think about my feelings. It's really weird. I I'd really need to be alone to process how I'm feeling. And journaling helps a lot. And you can't, I couldn't do either of those things.

• 45:06Alex Cooper?

  Oh, you couldn't journal?

• 45:07Speaker 01

  You can't, no, because Beach Hut is your journal. Sorry, I'm not supposed to talk about that.

• 45:10Alex Cooper?

  Oh, okay.

• 45:11Speaker 01

  It's like the cutaway.

• 45:13Alex Cooper?

  Right. Oh, it's like your confessional is your journal.

• 45:15Speaker 01

  Journal, yeah.

• 45:15Alex Cooper?

  Right, but staring into a camera as a little.

• 45:17Speaker 01

  Also, like, the amount of things I've written in my journal that I don't mean. You just say it to get it out. And then I'm like, okay, I don't feel that way. Move on. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, That's just how I process.

• 45:27Alex Cooper?

  So you then couple up with Andrea. And you were together for four days.

• 45:33Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 45:34Alex Cooper?

  And obviously, like, you went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea. Like, what did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced?

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• 48:20Alex Cooper?

  You went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea. Like, what did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced?

• 48:28Speaker 01

  So after like everything that happened with Leah, I was like, okay, I made the right decision. Like, I just, that's just the way I saw it. I was like, I was like, this was nuts. Like this, we've not known each other that long. We had this whole thing, which it was mostly my fault.

• 48:42Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Like, I feel like it was mostly my fault that it happened that way. But, I mean, I mean, she'll admit some fault in it as well, but I feel like it was mostly my fault. But it just didn't work. And I thought it was like, okay, our communication style is whatever. I was like, I was like, okay, well, I made the right choice. Like, things with Andrea were really great, and it was. It was an amazing four days we had. Like, I was like smitten. Like, I really was. I was having a great time, and you can tell.

• 49:05Alex Cooper?

  You seemed it.

• 49:06Speaker 01

  You can tell. I just thought she was like so much, like, just good. Like, I don't know. I liked talking to her, and I loved the way she talked about her family. And it just felt really romantic. Like, it just felt romantic. This is like the best way I could put it. I felt romantic when I was with her.

• 49:24Alex Cooper?

  In the moment of those four days, and I want to clarify, because I feel like a lot of people are like, you fucking knew each other for four days. Like, four days seems like what in Love Island time?

• 49:33Speaker 01

  That's like a month. Like, like, a week, a week is like a month. It seriously is. Like, it feels like you've known them forever. Because literally, you're with, like, usually you date a girl. You may go on a date. You'll see her maybe next week or in a couple of days. And you're like, you'll text the whole time, whatever. But like there, you are with them at any opportunity you can. And you have to talk about how you feel about everything. You're immediately talking about how many kids you want. And then, if, so if you like them, that progresses really, really fast.

• 50:02Alex Cooper?

  That's a good point, too. Like,

• 50:05Alex Cooper?

  Women, think about this if you're listening, like you get upset after a fourth date if a guy ghosts you and you're because you're like, well, we went on our fourth date, fourth date, fourth day for you for almost 24 hours of basically hanging out, sleeping together.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  Oh, it's like our 20th day, yeah.

• 50:20Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. Okay. So it got super emotional and then obviously when elimination came around, the girls decided to send Andrea home.

• 50:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:27Alex Cooper?

  And the world was fucking shocked. Like people online were like, this is the craziest episode that we've ever seen in Love Island history. Like what the fuck?

• 50:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:35Alex Cooper?

  And obviously you were shocked. What do you remember feeling when you heard her name called?

• 50:40Speaker 01

  At first I was just mad. I was like, this makes no sense. This makes no sense. We had the strongest connection of most of the people in the villa at the time, like let alone who was up for elimination. And I was like, I was just baffled. I was baffled. I was like, how does this make sense? Um, and then I was like, fuck it, I'm leaving.

• 51:04Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. So you immediately stood up and you were like, now you're sending three home like.

• 51:10Speaker 01

  Well, it wasn't immediate. That, that probably, that's longer.

• 51:12Alex Cooper?

  Okay, but it was edited.

• 51:13Speaker 01

  We're sitting there, we're talking, we're like, there's a back and forth between the girls and the guys.

• 51:18Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 51:18Speaker 01

  Blah, blah, blah. And then finally, like I'm sitting there and I'm like, all right, yeah, nah. And then Aaron's like, no, no, no, no, no, Rob, Rob, no, no. And I got up and I was like, yeah, I'm leaving.

• 51:27Alex Cooper?

  So you say you're leaving.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:29Alex Cooper?

  And then you don't leave.

• 51:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:30Alex Cooper?

  I understand your rea- like, explain your reasoning to maybe people that forget why you didn't leave.

• 51:35Speaker 01

  All right. So once again, that was a three hour process of me trying, like wanting to leave and like having conversations with people. And they're like, no, you shouldn't like.

• 51:44Alex Cooper?

  So it wasn't 30 minutes?

• 51:45Speaker 01

  No.

• 51:46Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  No, she, she did have 30 minutes back and I had that conversation with her, but after she left, I was like, no, fucking no. Like, so I had a conversation and they were like, no, you should stay, blah, blah, blah. Like it's so dumb. You've only known her for four days, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, fair enough. But then right after that, I was like, no, I'm leaving. Like, I'm like, no, like I'm, I'm actually leaving and I just had a lot of conversations, blah, blah. And they convinced me to stay the night. And then the next day I calmed down and I was like, okay, yeah, like I came here to find the best connection. It was going amazing with her. And I think like, you know, like the honeymoon stage of a relationship, we were at that, we were at that point where I was like, this girl could do no wrong. I was just like so keen, like I was just happy.

• 52:30Speaker 01

  Gone. And I was like, fuck, like, I don't know, like, it was just a bad time. Like, literally the next day, I could have been like, oh, like, I don't know about this. You don't know, but, but I, I was like, who knows who else might come in here? Like, you know, because it was still early days.

• 52:45Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  And so I was like, I mean, yeah, it does. I don't want to get out of here, get with her. It doesn't work out, which statistically, very high probability that we would not work out. Um, and then I'm like, damn, what could have been?

• 53:00Alex Cooper?

  Do you regret the way that you responded though in that moment? Because you obviously got Andrea's hopes up.

• 53:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, a hundred, a hundred percent I regret it. I wish I wouldn't have said it. But in that moment, that's what I was doing. Like, I was set on leaving. Like, I, and for a while after that, I was set on leaving, even the next day. But yeah, of course you don't see any of that.

• 53:19Alex Cooper?

  Had she not got sent home, do you think that you guys would have gone to the finale together?

• 53:24Speaker 01

  I don't know. I don't, I don't know. I don't know if it would have worked out. I really don't. Like, it was really, really great, but like, it was still early days.

• 53:32Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 53:32Speaker 01

  Like, we had a lot to learn about each other and, you know.

• 53:35Alex Cooper?

  Have you seen the TikTok that's trending that like, you sat up there and you thought, like, you said, oh, you're sending three home. Now you're fucking in your overalls?

• 53:44Speaker 01

  What now, bitch? Yeah, I've seen that.

• 53:46Alex Cooper?

  Okay, it's kind of iconic.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  No, yeah. No, Leah's hilarious. Like, I, I love, like, Leah's great.

• 53:51Alex Cooper?

  She's amazing.

• 53:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:52Alex Cooper?

  So, after the elimination of Andrea, she's gone, and Leah basically told you that she took a backseat in that decision of the process of sending Andrea home. And this caused so much fucking drama between you and Leah. You called her a liar. It caused drama between Leah and all the women.

• 54:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:12Alex Cooper?

  Now, looking back, what do you actually believe happened?

• 54:15Speaker 01

  Um, I think it was a lot of miscommunication.

• 54:18Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 54:18Speaker 01

  From the girls to me, from me to Leah, and so, so, first of all, I did not think Leah was capable of lying to me. I really thought that we had, I thought we had something special and I did not think she was lying to me at all. Until that conversation that she had with me. It was up on the upstairs thing. She was, she told me like, and once again, I haven't watched it. I don't remember exactly what she said, but I, she's basically said like she didn't talk shit about me and Andrea. She didn't talk shit about me or like shit like that. And I knew that wasn't true. And I was like, damn. And then she said, I took a backseat in the, the decision. And I was like, interesting. And the point of that conversation was not about that at all. For me, it was more about, is this girl lying to me? Because like,

• 55:02Speaker 01

  I still had feelings for her and like, I was thinking at this point, I was like, okay, maybe I should give this another shot. That's what the point, you remember when I pulled Liv and?

• 55:09Alex Cooper?

  Kayla.

• 55:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was not trying to like,

• 55:11Alex Cooper?

  You can't even remember Kayla's name?

• 55:13Speaker 01

  Kayla, sorry. I can't remember Kayla's name. Kayla, I love you so much. You're like a sister to me.

• 55:17Alex Cooper?

  No, no, you're fine. You're fine. I'm interested to talk to you about all that.

• 55:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay, okay. Um, yeah, when I pulled them, the only reason I did that is because I didn't want to like, I knew Leah was going to get upset and I just didn't want to have the conversation at all. If they were like, oh no, she did. I would have been like, okay, cool. And I would have dropped it. The only reason I pulled them is because I just wanted all the facts. I wanted to know the truth before I went into it. Also, if she had been lying to me, I knew she was going to lie. And she did kind of deny everything when we started the conversation. And I was like, oh, okay. And then I just kind of felt lied to. And then they just kept yelling at each other. And I was like, I don't even want to be a part of this anymore. That's not what I wanted at all. Also, people were saying that we teamed up on her. I talked to Leah by myself and she called Liv over. She kind of, I think she kind of thought Liv was going to be on her side and then she just wasn't at all. And then it was like, bad. It was, I hated that moment because it was just like,

• 56:05Speaker 01

  Leah was just in the between two people that disagreed with her and it was just, it was just wasn't fair for her at all.

• 56:11Alex Cooper?

  No, I agree. I think like understandably Leah, when she called Liv over, thought that Liv was going to be like, oh yeah, we got your back, girl. And then Liv was like, no, I'm gonna be real. This is how I feel about it.

• 56:22Speaker 01

  What happened?

• 56:22Alex Cooper?

  And then in that moment, it should have been like, okay, I didn't know that. So Liv, you and Leah need to have a conversation alone. Let's you and I finish our conversation. Cause I agree, it became ganging up, but then it was also tough because it's like, yeah, but you asked Liv and Liv's telling.

• 56:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. She asked for that. Yeah. And, and she was trying to team up on me.

• 56:42Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 56:43Speaker 01

  But I wanted the conversation to be really calm. Like, I was trying to be really, really calm.

• 56:46Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 56:47Speaker 01

  And then she just kept like saying these things and I was like, this is not true. And that's when I like lost my shit and I was like, can you just wake the fuck up? Like, we, like, just be real with me.

• 56:55Alex Cooper?

  It's interesting because this isn't even a question for you. It's a question for production. And I think everyone on the internet is feeling it. It's like, why will they not just air the clip? Just air the clip of the girls in the huddle and?

• 57:09Speaker 01

  They never did.

• 57:10Alex Cooper?

  They never did.

• 57:10Speaker 01

  I thought I would get to see it.

• 57:11Alex Cooper?

  No, we've never seen it. No one ever aired it. And I think a lot of people have a conspiracy that like, Leah was getting a bad edit, so maybe it completely clears her name and they don't want to put it up. Or like, I don't know what the fuck happened in that huddle, but like, they have never aired it. Just air it.

• 57:26Speaker 01

  Based on what the girls have told me, I don't think it does that. I don't think it clears her name.

• 57:30Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 57:30Speaker 01

  No, but that's, once again, he said, she said, which I don't want to talk about that in a bad, in a negative way towards anybody. Because I, I don't like talking bad about people at all.

• 57:39Alex Cooper?

  No, but I get it. Like, they're in the middle of this drama and everyone, it's like this one thing, everyone's like, what the fuck was the decision? And understandably, everyone's gonna like, say their piece, but I just wish, show us the fucking footage. Just show us the footage.

• 57:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:52Alex Cooper?

  Just play, and I thought we were gonna get that on movie night and we didn't. We're like, just play, clear, clear everyone's names. Get the truth. I don't know, production.

• 58:00Speaker 01

  I would have loved to see that as well. But I heard, I heard like, I heard what was said.

• 58:05Alex Cooper?

  You heard what was said?

• 58:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Did they ever air that?

• 58:08Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 58:09Speaker 01

  I was told like specifically what she was saying.

• 58:11Alex Cooper?

  Why not?

• 58:12Speaker 01

  After that.

• 58:12Alex Cooper?

  Share it with the class.

• 58:14Speaker 01

  I don't want to because I don't know if it's true.

• 58:15Alex Cooper?

  Who told you?

• 58:16Speaker 01

  I don't want to say that either.

• 58:17Alex Cooper?

  Okay, but you got like-

• 58:19Speaker 01

  It's just drama. Like, to me, that's drama. I like to know facts and if I know facts, I will call you out on it and I'll like, be like, hey, let's talk about this. But it, I, I'm not gonna like, start something over something I don't know is true or not. Like, that's ridiculous to me.

• 58:32Alex Cooper?

  No, that whole thing just became so much bigger than it was meant to be.

• 58:36Speaker 01

  And it became about the decision. That, I wasn't, I was just trying to like, talk about like, how honest she had been with me.

• 58:41Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 58:42Speaker 01

  And I feel like, the way she reacted, made me feel like she wasn't being honest at all.

• 58:46Alex Cooper?

  Well, also, at the end of the day, no matter what Leah said in that circle, there were three, what, three or four girls? Girls making that decision.

• 58:53Speaker 01

  No, I would say it wasn't all on her.

• 58:54Alex Cooper?

  So.

• 58:54Speaker 01

  And I, and I, I didn't care about that.

• 58:57Alex Cooper?

  That wasn't what you were asking.

• 58:57Speaker 01

  She made the decision, the what she just, like, you know, I just wanted to know if she was being honest about taking a backseat. I think that's what it became about. It was never about that. Even if she was full, like, we need to get Andre out of here. I wouldn't have been mad at her. Like, I would have just liked to know if that was the truth. I just wanted honesty.

• 59:14Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 59:14Speaker 01

  That's all I wanted. I wanted to know that I could trust her.

• 59:16Alex Cooper?

  And you don't feel like you got that?

• 59:18Speaker 01

  No, I didn't. I felt like I couldn't trust her at that time. I was like, and like now, like, looking back, I don't know. Cause I think it was really getting twisted around.

• 59:25Alex Cooper?

  I agree.

• 59:26Speaker 01

  It by everyone.

• 59:27Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 59:28Speaker 01

  But myself included. I think that I didn't remember things right from our first conversation. But like, I think everybody involved in that had a different narrative. And then there was the truth and none of us were on it. I don't think.

• 59:39Alex Cooper?

  I know. Play the fucking clip, peacock. They should air that as like a bonus episode and it's like a two second clip.

• 59:44Speaker 01

  Or it'd be like $2.99.

• 59:46Alex Cooper?

  Right, right.

• 59:46Speaker 01

  They'd make so much money. Like an OnlyFans link for that clip.

• 59:50Alex Cooper?

  I would fucking pay for it.

• 59:51Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 59:52Alex Cooper?

  Um, in the real world, do you, you have an easy time trusting partners?

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• 1:03:44Alex Cooper?

  In the real world, do you have an easy time trusting partners?

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  When I first start something with someone, I fully trust them. That's like, I'm not gonna date you if I don't. And that's why I was like, okay, well, I guess I'm not gonna date Leah.

• 1:03:57Alex Cooper?

  Have you ever gone through someone's phone?

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, once. Well, like my first, so my first college girlfriend, that was the most toxic relationship I've ever been in.

• 1:04:06Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:04:07Speaker 01

  On both sides. I was toxic, she was toxic. We could not stay away from each other to save our lives, broke up a million times, got together, back together a million times.

• 1:04:15Alex Cooper?

  Of course.

• 1:04:16Speaker 01

  Craziest things. Also, we're drinking all the time because it's college. So the like, that's the most toxic relationship I've ever been in. It was, it was crazy. But yeah, I went through her phone for sure. She went through my phone too. I would wake up and she'd have my phone. She'd be like, you motherfucker. Like the cra- we have, I have the craziest stories of like between us, but.

• 1:04:35Alex Cooper?

  Did you find anything incriminating?

• 1:04:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:04:40Alex Cooper?

  So have you been cheated on?

• 1:04:42Speaker 01

  I mean, we weren't together at the time.

• 1:04:44Alex Cooper?

  Right. It was the toxic college thing where it's like.

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:49Alex Cooper?

  Do you want to share a funny, crazy story with us?

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:04:51Alex Cooper?

  Why?

• 1:04:52Speaker 01

  Because she's, she's a good girl and I wish her the best and we both grew up. You know, people can change and I don't want people to be like, you did this, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:04:59Alex Cooper?

  Do you think people will know who she is?

• 1:05:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely.

• 1:05:01Alex Cooper?

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 1:05:02Speaker 01

  Everyone from my hometown will know who she is.

• 1:05:04Alex Cooper?

  Oh, and then it will come out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  But I wish her the best. I think she's about to get married.

• 1:05:07Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:05:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:08Alex Cooper?

  Definitely don't share the story.

• 1:05:09Speaker 01

  Congrats.

• 1:05:10Alex Cooper?

  Congrats. So proud of you. Out of that toxic shit with Rob.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:13Alex Cooper?

  Onto healthier things.

• 1:05:16Speaker 01

  No, I think a lot of my ex-girlfriends are about to get married. I like prepare them. I'm like.

• 1:05:20Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 1:05:22Speaker 01

  Like the stepping stone.

• 1:05:23Alex Cooper?

  How does that make you feel?

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  Sad.

• 1:05:26Alex Cooper?

  Wrong.

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  Sad.

• 1:05:28Alex Cooper?

  You're gonna find your person.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  Maybe.

• 1:05:30Alex Cooper?

  Are you the jealous type?

• 1:05:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:32Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:33Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 1:05:33Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:05:34Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 1:05:35Alex Cooper?

  Like, how jealous? Jealous?

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  I'm like more of like a protective jealous, but like when I'm dating a girl, like I like, I'll kind of make it now and like I'll put myself in between her and whatever the situation is.

• 1:05:47Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:05:47Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, that's kind of like that.

• 1:05:50Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:05:50Speaker 01

  That kind of jealous.

• 1:05:51Alex Cooper?

  Um, can we talk about Aaron? Your boy, your boy Aaron. Throughout this season, online, sometimes people would joke that like you guys were the strongest couple in the fucking world.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  I've seen a lot of that, a lot of that.

• 1:06:04Alex Cooper?

  Well, how would you describe your friendship?

• 1:06:06Speaker 01

  I think like at first I was like, I'm not so sure about this guy.

• 1:06:09Alex Cooper?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:06:10Speaker 01

  He's like the kind of the opposite of me in the way that he's like really loud and like loves to like, he's just silly and like goofy and uh, and I'm like that too, but like only when I'm like really comfortable with people. Um, but then like I got to know him and like he felt like family, like he, he's like really like, he's really sweet and he really like cares about everyone, like he really did, like, like he would get sad when anyone was sad, like.

• 1:06:35Alex Cooper?

  Specifically you though.

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, well, like we, we like became really, really good friends, like, like he seriously felt like my brother.

• 1:06:42Alex Cooper?

  Okay, during Casa More, now we like, we really need you to give us some information, okay? To clarify this, we don't have to speak about this again. We watched Aaron basically

• 1:06:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:52Alex Cooper?

  cheat on Kayla with Daniela.

• 1:06:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay, well, they were open.

• 1:06:56Alex Cooper?

  Okay, they were open, but it was like pretty fucking slimy.

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna lie, when I saw the clips, I was shocked.

• 1:07:02Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:07:03Speaker 01

  I was shocked and I was shocked the day that I saw him kissing her on the beanbag. I was shocked.

• 1:07:07Alex Cooper?

  Okay. When it was time to return to the villa, you brought his girl Daniela

• 1:07:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:15Alex Cooper?

  back in with you.

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:07:16Alex Cooper?

  And he returned a single so that he could present as loyal basically to Kayla and he's like, I want you. What the fuck happened? Do not lie to me. Tell me what happened.

• 1:07:28Speaker 01

  Well, I wasn't really getting on with any, like, I got to know the girls. They were great girls. Um, Sydney, so funny. Like, I thought they were really great girls, but I didn't see, like, long-term relationship type things with the most of them. Um, and Daniela, I'd been talking with Erin most of the time. Um, and we have, like, similar type as far as personality. Uh, and the first conversation I had with her, I really liked, and he was telling me the whole time that I should talk to her. And I was like, I was like, what? And he was like, yeah, like, you, like, I think you guys really get along. And I'm like, but, cause he, I think he knew he wasn't gonna take her back. And at that point, he was like, you should, you should at least talk to her and see.

• 1:08:06Alex Cooper?

  Even though he loved her?

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  He loved her?

• 1:08:08Alex Cooper?

  He told her that he loved her twice.

• 1:08:11Speaker 01

  Daniela?

• 1:08:12Alex Cooper?

  Yes. You have seen this.

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  He said he loved her?

• 1:08:15Alex Cooper?

  Uh huh.

• 1:08:16Speaker 01

  I haven't seen that.

• 1:08:17Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  Did they show that at movie night?

• 1:08:18Alex Cooper?

  No. That's what's been so crazy online is everyone's like, why the fuck was that not played at movie night? I don't know if Kayla even knows that yet. She probably does now, that she's out.

• 1:08:27Speaker 01

  Definitely does. I didn't, I didn't know that.

• 1:08:29Alex Cooper?

  Oh, it was like the biggest thing on the internet.

• 1:08:31Speaker 01

  Really? I haven't even seen it on, like, anything. I haven't seen it clipped or anything.

• 1:08:34Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:35Speaker 01

  Oh, well.

• 1:08:37Speaker 01

  What was the question?

• 1:08:38Alex Cooper?

  Anyways, so how the fuck did you come back to the villa with Daniela?

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, so I literally didn't get a chance to talk to her that much at all. Um, and then I did. I talked to her and I was like, I was like, I liked her value, like, where her values were, and I liked, like, once again, like, she's very for family-oriented, like me, and she loves animals, she wanted to be a vet. I was like, okay, I could see something here. So I was like, my, and like, what am I gonna do? Go back single? To no one? To Liv?

• 1:09:08Alex Cooper?

  You did say you liked her right before you left.

• 1:09:10Speaker 01

  I, I, I, I was actually really close to doing that, the exact thing. I was really close to going back single and just being like, Liv, what's up? You wanna hang out? Yeah, I was, I was really close to doing that. I, I seriously thought about it, but I was like, like, our, like, Liv and I both knew, like, we get on and, like, we get each other's humor, and, like, I find her really attractive, but, like, it was like, it's more of a friendship, for sure, like.

• 1:09:35Alex Cooper?

  So did Erin ask you to bring Daniela back?

• 1:09:38Speaker 01

  No. Hell no. Hell no. He didn't want me to bring her. Oh, actually, he did.

• 1:09:44Alex Cooper?

  Thank you.

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  He did. But then after that, right, like, immediately after that, he was like, terrible idea, don't bring her back.

• 1:09:51Alex Cooper?

  Right, okay, so he did. So he did articulate that.

• 1:09:53Speaker 01

  That's true. I forgot about that.

• 1:09:54Alex Cooper?

  Thank you. Can you please tell us about the conversation?

• 1:09:57Speaker 01

  Oh, fuck, I don't really remember that well. But he was like, he, he like called, he pulled me for a chat. And he was like, oh, yeah, she took it really, really well. The way that when he said that he was done, like he, he wasn't gonna take her back, whatever. She took it, he said, like, she took it with, like, such grace and, like, she was so kind and she just said really nice things about him and stuff. And he was like, oh dang, like, that was really cool.

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  He's like, you're gonna like her a lot. You should hang out with her. But, like, yeah, and he was like, you should take her back. Yeah, yeah, I forgot about, I forgot, I totally, but it's because, the reason I forgot about it is because maybe 10 minutes after that conversation, he was like, please forget everything I just said. That's an awful idea. I'm going back to Kayla and I really like Kayla. Like, that's just, don't bring her back at all unless you really want to. And I was like, okay.

• 1:10:44Alex Cooper?

  And just for, like, anyone who, for some reason, is watching this and never watched Love Island, basically, the point is Aaron was coupled up with Kayla, goes into a new house with all new women, is making out with this new girl. And then basically asks Rob to bring that girl back into the villa on his accord so that, like.

• 1:11:02Speaker 01

  Well, he did not say, he said, only if you see something with her, like, if you want to bring her back, do it. But, like, it was like, yeah, it was like, I guess implied, like, that he thinks that she's cool. But I don't, but I'm telling you, literally 10 minutes after that, he was like,

• 1:11:18Alex Cooper?

  Freaking out.

• 1:11:19Speaker 01

  Everything I said, so wrong. I don't know what the hell I was thinking. Yeah, I'm a dumbass. Do not do that unless you really want to. And then I was like, I got to know her and I was like, I was like, I like, there's enough there that I want to see where it goes. We didn't have a lot of time.

• 1:11:32Alex Cooper?

  Did you feel like a dick doing that to Kayla?

• 1:11:35Speaker 01

  Um, yeah. I did, because I care about Kayla. She's like a sister to me. But I also thought about it like, okay, well, at least like. She's gonna know, like, and I was wrong, but at least she's gonna know that he's being honest, because she'll tell him everything. And then she didn't. I've seen that as well.

• 1:11:54Alex Cooper?

  It's fucked.

• 1:11:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know, I know. But that was like my silver lining. I was like, I was like, okay, yeah, like, this is gonna be weird and it sucks because like, Aaron's my best friend. And Kayla is his girl and like, I wanna be able to hang out with them all together. But honestly, like, Kayla really took it with grace, like, and, and she got along with Danielle enough that like, we could all kinda hang out, but like, I don't know, things, yeah.

• 1:12:15Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, Aaron is kind of in the doghouse on the internet.

• 1:12:19Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:12:20Alex Cooper?

  He's kind of the villain of the season.

• 1:12:22Speaker 01

  I know. Well, yeah.

• 1:12:24Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:25Speaker 01

  And I, and I think he's gonna be okay, because I think, what I've just told him over and over again, is you fucked up, you gotta take accountability, and as long as you keep doing that, I think it's gonna be okay. Cause I promise you this, he loves Kayla. He really does.

• 1:12:41Alex Cooper?

  Wow.

• 1:12:42Speaker 01

  He cares about her so much, and it was killing him even in Casa. Like, he was like, I remember one day specifically, it was after he kissed her, he sat in the room for like, hours and just stared and was like, what the fuck have I done, blah, blah, blah. Um, and he really cares about her a lot. He really does.

• 1:13:03Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, but he gets really emotional for you. There are so many clips of like, his emotions towards you versus everyone else, even Kayla, like, he was sobbing when he thought you were gonna leave. It's kinda cute. So, for the rest of your time in the villa, you obviously kind of like, didn't find that connection that was as strong as Andrea or Leah. And I don't know if you've seen all the fan edits, you have seen all the fan edits of you and Leah.

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  I've seen a ton. I mean, how could I not? They're fucking everywhere.

• 1:13:29Alex Cooper?

  The entire world, like, wanted you guys to end up together. Would you ever try to make it work in the real world?

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  Um, I, I think...

• 1:13:38Speaker 01

  After everything, I think we will be amazing friends. And I think I'd rather just focus on that for now, like, like, love being around her. She's an amazing person. She's so fucking funny. Like, I'm like laughing the whole time I'm with her usually. But like, I mean, I think, I also think Miguel is a really great guy. I love Miguel and we're actually really similar, uh, which I didn't see coming at all, like some of our, some of the way we think. Um, but yeah, I think, I don't know what's happened, obviously, but I mean, no, I mean, I'm, I'm gonna respect them and, and her and like, I just, I just don't think that's like net, like necessary at all. I think that we're great friends and that's like a great spot to be.

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  And I'm happy with it. Like, I'm content in that. Like, I would be content being friends with her.

• 1:14:25Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:14:27Alex Cooper?

  I don't think people like that answer.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  I mean,

• 1:14:30Alex Cooper?

  But that's okay. That's, no, that's the honest truth. That's the honest truth.

• 1:14:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, I'm okay with being friends and I want to be friends.

• 1:14:35Alex Cooper?

  Why do you think America is rooting for you and Leah even though she has something good with Miguel?

• 1:14:41Speaker 01

  Probably all the edits. Probably all the fucking edits you guys have made of us looking at each other. And like, I mean, and we care, it's like, it's not ba- built on nothing. Like, we care for each other, for sure. I like, I feel that she cares for me and I care for her.

• 1:14:58Speaker 01

  But yeah, after everything, like, I just, I, I think it would be really, really hard. I mean, it's kind of like the Aaron Kayler situation. Like, that's gonna be such an uphill battle for them to get through. And I think like the best thing for us is just to like move on and be friends. Like, seriously, I think that's just the best thing.

• 1:15:13Alex Cooper?

  Was it as epic in the villa, the like, feelings that you guys had as compared to like these fan edits? Because you guys had this like, it feels like this like unsaid, like insane attraction and it was this whole whirlwind and like, did it feel that way?

• 1:15:32Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:15:36Speaker 01

  Most of the time, no.

• 1:15:39Alex Cooper?

  Wrong.

• 1:15:40Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:15:41Alex Cooper?

  I love that answer.

• 1:15:42Speaker 01

  Most of the time, no. There was definitely some moments where I was like, damn. Like, I cannot lie. There was so definitely some moments where I was like, damn. But most of the time, like a lot, like I've seen a lot of them. I'm like, I'm like, I don't even think she was looking at me in that. Like, like, like, some of them, I'm like, okay. But yeah, like, other times I'm like, yeah, I mean, that was a nice moment for us.

• 1:16:02Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 1:16:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:03Alex Cooper?

  But the edits have made it really like.

• 1:16:05Speaker 01

  It's, it's definitely like hype, hyped up a lot. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

• 1:16:09Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

• 1:16:10Speaker 01

  And I think she would say the same thing.

• 1:16:12Alex Cooper?

  How do you think Leah feels about you now? Obviously, we saw your like, grand final moment with her where you run up.

• 1:16:20Speaker 01

  So funny. Didn't feel like that at all. Like.

• 1:16:23Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 1:16:23Speaker 01

  I mean, in the moment it did, but like, I literally just wanted to say bye and like, let her know that I cared about her. I thought she was great. And I'm, I'm glad that we got to get back to that point. That's all I wanted to say. But then it was like, I don't know, it was so much more emotional than I thought it was gonna be. Like, in my head, I was like, this is not a big deal at all. I'm just gonna let her know these things and then I let her know. And then I was like, oh, that was kinda crazy. Like, a little bit. Not, it wasn't that crazy, but like, it seems a lot crazier on TV, I think.

• 1:16:48Alex Cooper?

  So producers did not make you do that?

• 1:16:50Speaker 01

  No, they didn't make me do that.

• 1:16:50Alex Cooper?

  Cause everyone was like, oh my God, that felt too perfect that it was like produced. No.

• 1:16:54Speaker 01

  No, like, other than like the lines they wrote me. No, I'm playing. I'm playing. No, that was.

• 1:16:58Alex Cooper?

  Well, and it's like, music goes into it, which like, there was a music playing while you're fucking saying that.

• 1:17:04Speaker 01

  Exactly, exactly.

• 1:17:04Alex Cooper?

  But you both did, you say like, love you, which I feel like a not an I love you, but a love you is pretty friend zoning.

• 1:17:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:12Alex Cooper?

  Cause it's like, once you say love you to someone, it's like, ooh, wow. Cause if you were really gonna be in a romantic situation, you'd probably like, save those words.

• 1:17:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you say that, it's like, I love you as a friend. Yeah, for sure.

• 1:17:22Alex Cooper?

  Which you just said, you guys are friends.

• 1:17:23Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:17:24Alex Cooper?

  Um, okay, I'm curious. Andrea.

• 1:17:28Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:17:29Alex Cooper?

  She said after she left that she would love to rekindle things with you. This probably is a while ago. I know she's been like posting a lot. Would you want to give your guys' relationship a shot in the real world or no?

• 1:17:39Speaker 01

  I don't, yeah, I don't. Uh, I mean, I've been talking to her a little bit, but it's not like, I think, I think once again, like, it's probably better if we just kinda like, keep our distance for now, like, kinda like, it's, a lot has happened, and she's been like, posting a lot.

• 1:17:59Alex Cooper?

  A lot.

• 1:18:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, which is, like, I'd be lying if I was like, I was kinda like, oh, it's a lot of things it posts about.

• 1:18:09Speaker 01

  Which sounds really bad, but like, I do think she's a great girl, and I think she got, like, I think the reason she did that is like, she was, she went in there and did what she was supposed to do. She did nothing wrong. Literally did nothing wrong. And she was always kind, like, she, when she left, I don't know if it, I haven't seen it, but I don't know, when she left, she was in a position where she could have said a lot of mean things and been like, y'all are some bitches for doing this, blah, blah, blah. Didn't not say a word. All she said was like, how much she cared about me, and then left. Like, I thought that was like, so good, and like, I thought she handled herself so well the whole time. Which is why I was kinda surprised, like, she was like, posting a lot of stuff, but like, I get, she was, she got like, the most hate from anyone from the show.

• 1:18:49Alex Cooper?

  So, did you reach out, or did she reach out, when you got your phone?

• 1:18:52Speaker 01

  I texted her. I texted her, I just said, hey, how are you? Like, and then, I called her. Well, she, yeah, we called, we FaceTimed for a little bit, didn't talk about like, anything like crazy, just like, wanted to see how she was doing. Cause at this point, I hadn't looked at really anything online. And I was just like, how you doing, like, everything, you know, I was thinking about you a lot. Like, blah, blah, told her my, cause I knew once she left, she didn't know what happened, and I think it was made to look like, she left, I was like, I'm leaving, I did it, and then I didn't give a fuck. That was not the case. I was like, you could ask us, any person in there, I was like, I was so fucked, like, for that week after that, like, it was tough. But like, I did, I did get better, and I got over it, like,

• 1:19:36Speaker 01

  towards the end, so, and I told, I let her know, like, all that, and I was just like, cause I felt guilty. I felt really guilty about it. And, and at times, I was like, I should have just left, like, I'm such a bitch, like, I don't know, I mean, like I said, I tear myself up, like, but rightfully so, like, it was such a lose-lose situation at that point, like, cause I got emotional and said that, but, yeah, I just kinda let her know, like, how it went, how I was feeling and everything, and she told me, like, a little bit about what was going on with her. And then that was it, and then we've texted a little bit, but I did start to see, like, All the stuff like she was doing, I was like, that's something that I did not see coming from her. She just seemed very no drama, like in the villa, so no drama, like she, like she said that like, yeah.

• 1:20:20Speaker 01

  And I just was really kind of set back by that. When I saw that, I was like, oh, interesting.

• 1:20:26Alex Cooper?

  It is interesting because I feel like that must be weird for you of like, everyone was sort of a certain way in the villa and now that everyone's going to be done and it's coming out and everyone, you're going to see everyone like, I wonder if you're going to feel the same type of way. Have you thought about that? Like, once you see them in the real world, like, will you feel the same type of way about them?

• 1:20:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:44Alex Cooper?

  As you did with like these kind of blinders on in the villa.

• 1:20:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is like, it's like when you're in the villa, it's like tunnel vision and you get outside, the tube's gone. You know, it's like, you're just a girl now. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:20:53Alex Cooper?

  Still be like down to hang with her.

• 1:20:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:20:56Alex Cooper?

  Or is she like not the vibe? Because it's, yeah.

• 1:20:59Speaker 01

  But it's not like, the reason I'm having those thoughts, it has nothing to do with me being out. It has to do with me seeing what she's been doing while I was out. Like, I was like, um, interesting. And but I will just like, last thing on it, like, I will give her like credit, like, I do get why she would be doing that. If like, people were coming at her, but it was a lot.

• 1:21:17Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I'm going to say the names of women that you connected with on like the um, season, and I want you to describe your relationship with them in one word.

• 1:21:24Speaker 01

  You have no paper? Sorry.

• 1:21:26Alex Cooper?

  One word.

• 1:21:27Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:21:28Alex Cooper?

  Or if you want to describe your relationship, no, one word.

• 1:21:30Speaker 01

  That's great.

• 1:21:31Alex Cooper?

  You got this?

• 1:21:31Speaker 01

  This is a Rob thing, yeah.

• 1:21:33Alex Cooper?

  That's why I said one word.

• 1:21:34Speaker 01

  One word's good.

• 1:21:34Alex Cooper?

  Okay, ready?

• 1:21:36Speaker 01

  Uh huh. I guess, let me think, do I know that? Okay.

• 1:21:40Alex Cooper?

  Okay, Cassidy.

• 1:21:41Speaker 01

  Cassidy? Shy.

• 1:21:43Alex Cooper?

  Sex.

• 1:21:44Speaker 01

  No, I had sex with Cassie.

• 1:21:45Alex Cooper?

  Cassie?

• 1:21:46Speaker 01

  But Cassidy.

• 1:21:48Alex Cooper?

  Did you?

• 1:21:49Speaker 01

  Didn't have sex with her.

• 1:21:50Alex Cooper?

  You couldn't hold out anymore?

• 1:21:52Speaker 01

  I had been on a really, really, really long time and I was, it was, and it, and like, after I was like, fuck, Rob. You made it this whole time. You didn't have sex on TV. Your poor mother, you're like, everyone's going to be like, he never cared about any of those bitches. He's just going to fuck, you know, and I was like, and then I was like, you know what, like, I'm an adult, she's an adult. It felt right in the moment, like, it happened, like, it's, and I don't regret it. It's like, it just happened.

• 1:22:16Alex Cooper?

  Did you do it in the bed when not everyone was in the room? Yes, Rob. That's a yes.

• 1:22:22Speaker 01

  I didn't say shit.

• 1:22:23Alex Cooper?

  No, you did because this is a podcast.

• 1:22:25Speaker 01

  That's bad journalism.

• 1:22:26Alex Cooper?

  Real people. Yeah, you just gave me a yes in your eyes.

• 1:22:29Speaker 01

  I didn't say shit.

• 1:22:30Alex Cooper?

  Cause if you, if it wasn't, you'd say no.

• 1:22:31Speaker 01

  I'm about to onion back up right now.

• 1:22:33Alex Cooper?

  No, no, no, we're not onioning. We are so fucking peeled down. You're doing so great.

• 1:22:37Speaker 01

  You really have. You're good at this. I will give you credit. You're pretty good at this.

• 1:22:40Alex Cooper?

  You're a hard one to crack. Like I will say, everyone at home that's like, why don't you ask in this? I'm trying, but we have gotten progress. Okay. So you did it in the room.

• 1:22:51Alex Cooper?

  Did you come like just on the sheets? Did housekeeping have to clean that up the next morning?

• 1:22:59Alex Cooper?

  Robert!

• 1:23:01Speaker 01

  Did you use my full name?

• 1:23:04Alex Cooper?

  That's some tea. You've said nothing. I'm fully.

• 1:23:08Speaker 01

  That is tea. I've said no words to what you're saying.

• 1:23:12Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Did your, did any of the people on the island know what happened until she said?

• 1:23:17Speaker 01

  No one knew. That was the funniest part. I don't know how many conversations they put in, but Miguel, like I think it was literally the next day. He was like, he was like, yeah, bro. I just don't think that I could have sex in here. Like it's just not something I'm gonna do. And I'm like, dude, me either, bro. And Kathy's sitting right next to me. I was like, I was like, dude, me either. Like especially like in the room with everyone could never do that. He's like, he's like, yeah, bro. Like, I mean, honestly, if someone did, I would rate it, but like I, it's just something I wouldn't do. And I was like, I was like, yeah, bro. Couldn't be me.

• 1:23:45Alex Cooper?

  Can't really.

• 1:23:45Speaker 01

  And I, I looked at Kathy, she was like.

• 1:23:47Alex Cooper?

  You're like, I feel light as a feather right now. God, you had been waiting for that.

• 1:23:50Speaker 01

  Not, I wouldn't say I've been waiting for it, but like.

• 1:23:53Alex Cooper?

  I mean to like.

• 1:23:54Speaker 01

  Oh, I was like.

• 1:23:54Alex Cooper?

  Release.

• 1:23:55Speaker 01

  Built up.

• 1:23:56Alex Cooper?

  Okay, Daniela, one word.

• 1:23:59Speaker 01

  Hmm, uh, I'm trying to, uh.

• 1:24:03Alex Cooper?

  You can use a couple of words.

• 1:24:04Speaker 01

  Affectionate.

• 1:24:05Alex Cooper?

  Liv.

• 1:24:06Speaker 01

  Strong.

• 1:24:07Alex Cooper?

  Andrea.

• 1:24:09Speaker 01

  Understanding.

• 1:24:10Alex Cooper?

  Leah.

• 1:24:11Speaker 01

  Hmm, lovely.

• 1:24:14Alex Cooper?

  Oh, now you got us all making like clips of that. Think about how many fan edits are gonna be.

• 1:24:19Speaker 01

  It's alliteration. Lovely Leah, like come on. Chill the fuck out.

• 1:24:25Alex Cooper?

  Oh, I want you guys to be together.

• 1:24:27Speaker 01

  Stop. You're just saying that because of the edits. You watched the edits, they worked on you and that's what you want.

• 1:24:32Alex Cooper?

  They did work on me and I should know better. I like know this shit can be.

• 1:24:35Speaker 01

  Come on. Come on.

• 1:24:37Alex Cooper?

  Okay, okay. If you had to go into the hideaway with one person from the season, right now, who would you go with?

• 1:24:43Speaker 01

  That's nuts. That's nutty. Ariana. Anyways, next question.

• 1:24:51Alex Cooper?

  She looked fucking amazing this season.

• 1:24:53Speaker 01

  She looked so good. She was always wearing see-through clothes. I was like, what's up with her not really wearing clothes all the time?

• 1:25:01Alex Cooper?

  How many times did you guys think she was a bombshell walking in?

• 1:25:04Speaker 01

  Um, once, but also I thought she was an islander when we, she was sitting there with them when we walked in. And I went around and shook everyone's hand. I shook her hand. I was like, nice to meet you. I'm Rob. And then I was like, oh, you're the host. Yeah, it was really embarrassing.

• 1:25:16Alex Cooper?

  There's a clip of like Cordell at one point and everyone's like, it's Ariana, it's Ariana. And Cordell comes out. He's like, who the fuck is that?

• 1:25:22Speaker 01

  He's blind as a bat. He can't see shit. It's so funny.

• 1:25:26Alex Cooper?

  Serena and Cordell are so cute now.

• 1:25:28Speaker 01

  I love them. I love them both individually.

• 1:25:30Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:31Speaker 01

  So it makes me easy to like them as a couple. You know what I'm saying? Like they had their struggles.

• 1:25:34Alex Cooper?

  They're really dope.

• 1:25:35Speaker 01

  But that's why I think they'll, they'll be good. I think because like they had a hard time. They got through a lot, but like.

• 1:25:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're both dope.

• 1:25:43Alex Cooper?

  Okay, who was the best kisser of the season?

• 1:25:46Speaker 01

  Um, Andrea.

• 1:25:49Alex Cooper?

  You guys did seem like you had a good little.

• 1:25:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would say Andrea.

• 1:25:52Alex Cooper?

  Um, okay, I need you to clear something up. During the body count game, your answer was mysteriously just completely skipped over.

• 1:26:02Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:26:03Alex Cooper?

  They didn't air it.

• 1:26:04Speaker 01

  They didn't air it?

• 1:26:05Alex Cooper?

  So what is your body count, Rob?

• 1:26:07Speaker 01

  It was probably because it was boring.

• 1:26:08Alex Cooper?

  What was it?

• 1:26:09Speaker 01

  Twenty-five.

• 1:26:11Alex Cooper?

  Is that a fake number?

• 1:26:12Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:26:13Alex Cooper?

  That feels fake.

• 1:26:14Speaker 01

  It's not fake.

• 1:26:14Alex Cooper?

  That feels fake.

• 1:26:15Speaker 01

  It's not fake.

• 1:26:16Alex Cooper?

  It's not?

• 1:26:17Speaker 01

  No. It's a good estimation.

• 1:26:20Alex Cooper?

  Estimation?

• 1:26:21Speaker 01

  It's good. It's twenty-five.

• 1:26:23Alex Cooper?

  We.

• 1:26:23Speaker 01

  Twenty-six now.

• 1:26:26Alex Cooper?

  Lucky number.

• 1:26:27Speaker 01

  Is it? Oh, no, it's not. Twenty-three is lucky number. Fuck, passed it.

• 1:26:31Alex Cooper?

  Is twenty-three your lucky number?

• 1:26:33Speaker 01

  Hmm, when I go to casino, I put on red twenty-three.

• 1:26:35Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Do you go to Vegas a lot?

• 1:26:38Speaker 01

  I used to when I lived in LA.

• 1:26:39Alex Cooper?

  You lived in LA?

• 1:26:40Speaker 01

  I mean, you could hardly say that. I was here for a year.

• 1:26:43Alex Cooper?

  Why?

• 1:26:44Speaker 01

  Um, work.

• 1:26:46Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, which going?

• 1:26:47Speaker 01

  Rob Thunder.

• 1:26:48Alex Cooper?

  What?

• 1:26:49Speaker 01

  Just kidding, it's a joke.

• 1:26:50Alex Cooper?

  Wait.

• 1:26:51Speaker 01

  That was a joke. So Connor, yeah, yeah. So, so the picture they took for me, for like my, my picture, everyone thought I looked like a porn star. And so Connor came up with the name Rob Thunder. That was like me.

• 1:27:01Alex Cooper?

  You kind of are giving porn star right now. Like I'm waiting for you to like gyrate on the chair.

• 1:27:05Speaker 01

  Not gonna happen.

• 1:27:06Alex Cooper?

  You're not gonna do that though. Anyways, um, okay, what is the weirdest place that you've ever had sex?

• 1:27:11Speaker 01

  Hmm, airplane.

• 1:27:14Alex Cooper?

  Airplane.

• 1:27:15Speaker 01

  Maybe.

• 1:27:17Speaker 01

  Like, yeah, that's a good one. Library.

• 1:27:20Alex Cooper?

  Library.

• 1:27:21Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:27:23Speaker 01

  Everyone's reading.

• 1:27:27Alex Cooper?

  Well, clearly you could be quiet. No one knew in the villa that you had had sex. Okay, are you actually taking a break from dating? I know you keep saying it, like you're thinking like you're, you gotta chill on that, like you're gonna have everyone as friends.

• 1:27:38Speaker 01

  I just can't, I can't imagine like trying to get to know someone right now. I can't imagine like giving someone my full attention and like actually being able to be present.

• 1:27:45Alex Cooper?

  Like, what are you thinking right now? You need to like run home to Alabama?

• 1:27:48Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:27:48Alex Cooper?

  And like get in your bed and like.

• 1:27:49Speaker 01

  No, like get in the woods and like leave my phone at home. I need to go in the creek and like, yeah, I'm not kidding. Like I really need that. It's like my therapy.

• 1:27:56Alex Cooper?

  When you pick up your first snake, what are you gonna do to it? Kiss it?

• 1:27:59Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:28:00Alex Cooper?

  Oh, have you ever kissed a snake?

• 1:28:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course. If it feels right.

• 1:28:07Alex Cooper?

  If the mood is right.

• 1:28:08Speaker 01

  If the mood's right, we'll give him a little, little cutie.

• 1:28:10Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so you're ready to get back to the woods?

• 1:28:12Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:28:13Alex Cooper?

  Are you going to continue to be a snake wrangler? Are you gonna like? Start popping up? Are you gonna do the reality stuff? Are you gonna go back on another reality show? Like, what do you think's the vibe?

• 1:28:21Speaker 01

  I have no idea. They, like they've asked me a lot, like what I want to do from this, cause like the show.

• 1:28:26Alex Cooper?

  It's so big.

• 1:28:26Speaker 01

  Did the best, it did, it's number one. It beat every other show in America.

• 1:28:30Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:30Speaker 01

  It was the number one streaming.

• 1:28:31Alex Cooper?

  Insane.

• 1:28:32Speaker 01

  Uh, which I did not see coming. So like, yeah, like. Think we should keep catching snakes.

• 1:28:39Speaker 01

  I mean, like, if I get a really good opportunity, like,

• 1:28:41Alex Cooper?

  Maybe.

• 1:28:42Speaker 01

  Like I said, I'd be like, ah, fuck it, whatever. Like, that's kind of how I live my life. Like, that's why I went on Love Island. That's all I had situation had. Like, I didn't apply for that, you know, like,

• 1:28:49Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 1:28:50Speaker 01

  So, yeah, something that comes across, like, I would like Survivor. Oh, I would do that, like, some shit like that.

• 1:28:55Alex Cooper?

  Are you gonna see everyone for the reunion? Isn't there a reunion? There's a reunion coming up. Are you excited? Are you nervous?

• 1:29:01Speaker 01

  Um, I would say I'm nervous.

• 1:29:03Alex Cooper?

  Why?

• 1:29:03Speaker 01

  I don't know. I don't know. Just when I think about that, the stress chemical in my brain comes out.

• 1:29:11Alex Cooper?

  What stresses you out?

• 1:29:12Speaker 01

  Hmm, I'm procrastinating, thinking about it.

• 1:29:15Alex Cooper?

  No, we had, we're almost, this is like basically the last question. I promise, we have two more questions.

• 1:29:19Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:29:20Alex Cooper?

  So we'll take our time. What are you stressed about going to this reunion?

• 1:29:23Speaker 01

  Well, I feel like, I feel like, um, I don't know, I'm just interested to see, like, who's still together and like, how everything is going for everyone. And just like, everyone together again, like, I think a lot of people went to the internet and maybe some things have been said that are like, not great about other people. And, um, that's gonna be a thing for sure. I mean,

• 1:29:49Alex Cooper?

  But you have been kind of not causing drama, right?

• 1:29:52Speaker 01

  I'm just being honest, like, anything I've said, I'll be like, yeah, I said that, I meant that.

• 1:29:57Alex Cooper?

  So you have nothing to be worried about now?

• 1:29:58Speaker 01

  No, no, I, I, just the situation in general, I think is gonna, yeah, that's just gonna be, like, not just me, no, not with me. I'm thinking about other people. Like, I'm like, how the fuck is that gonna go? Um,

• 1:30:12Alex Cooper?

  Why? Who you, okay, will you tell me off camera who you're the most nervous about?

• 1:30:15Speaker 01

  I'll tell you off camera.

• 1:30:16Alex Cooper?

  Okay, okay, okay. Okay, but you're gonna go and you're gonna be like drama free, because you kind of, what if Miguel and Leah aren't together?

• 1:30:23Speaker 01

  I'd be like, damn, sorry, guys. I'd be like, damn, that sucks. I was really rooting for y'all. Take their hands.

• 1:30:31Alex Cooper?

  Okay, Rob, closing statement. What would you like to say to the ladies of America who love or hate you?

• 1:30:39Speaker 01

  Hate is the closest emotion to love. I'm just kidding.

• 1:30:45Speaker 01

  Thank you. I don't know. It's confusing. I'm confused. You know something? I kind of saw myself like after, obviously, there was a lot of drama at the beginning, but after that, I just thought I was kind of a background character. Like, I didn't really feel in the show anymore.

• 1:31:00Speaker 01

  So I just kind of like, yeah, whatever. I'm just chilling. And then I was surprised when I came out, it was like a lot of buzz about everything about me.

• 1:31:06Alex Cooper?

  What do you think this episode is evoking? What do you think we're giving today?

• 1:31:10Speaker 01

  I don't, I blacked out. I don't really know.

• 1:31:12Alex Cooper?

  I kind of blacked out too.

• 1:31:15Speaker 01

  I was.

• 1:31:15Alex Cooper?

  I feel like I had to ask you the same question over and over to get you to answer. And then we just kept going and I think we got a lot of answers, right?

• 1:31:22Speaker 01

  You did all the like, the stuff I thought, like all the like drama stuff.

• 1:31:25Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 1:31:26Speaker 01

  All that stuff. It's all good.

• 1:31:27Alex Cooper?

  Like I'm, and I know you're not going to answer the questions of like, who did you not like in the villa? Would you answer that? No, exactly. You're shaking your head for those of you that are listening, driving to work. He's shaking his head.

• 1:31:38Speaker 01

  I mean, I, I mean, just why would you want to talk about it? Why would you want to focus on the negative, Alex?

• 1:31:43Speaker 01

  I know, I know. You're saying you're not. I know.

• 1:31:45Alex Cooper?

  But you know that people are going to be like, why the fuck did you guys not ask certain questions? Like when, okay, the one move, moment from movie night when you saw Leah making fun of you crying.

• 1:31:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:31:55Alex Cooper?

  And then she apologized and it seemed super genuine.

• 1:31:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was great. That, oh yeah, that was, okay, so.

• 1:32:00Alex Cooper?

  How did you feel about that?

• 1:32:01Speaker 01

  So, so after not leaving, after Andrea left, I was like kind of regretting it a lot. And that moment made me the, the most happy I was about staying. That moment was so great for me, like, and for us, I thought, which was, I really liked. It gave us closure. And it was in front of everyone, which I loved because I'm not the kind of person that like, I feel like there was weirdness in the villa about Leah and I. But I'm not the kind of person that's going to go to everyone and like, give my side of the story, blah, blah, blah. Like, I'm just going to like, let my actions speak for themselves. Um, but in that moment, I was given the opportunity to like, talk with her and stuff. And I thought it was really good for us. And then we had a great conversation after that. And yeah, we just like, we got back to being friends and like, it was good.

• 1:32:42Alex Cooper?

  The heart rate challenge? Did you get a little excited?

• 1:32:45Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:32:47Alex Cooper?

  You did.

• 1:32:48Speaker 01

  I did not.

• 1:32:48Alex Cooper?

  You got excited for Leah.

• 1:32:51Speaker 01

  I got excited.

• 1:32:52Alex Cooper?

  Oh, you mean like a boner? No, I'm just saying like you got the most.

• 1:32:55Speaker 01

  The way you look excited? That's how you said it. You said it like a boner. Like, don't make me weird.

• 1:32:59Alex Cooper?

  No, you thought it.

• 1:33:00Speaker 01

  You said it like that. You said you get a little excited. You winked at me.

• 1:33:04Alex Cooper?

  You got a little excited. Like, your heart rate went up the most for her.

• 1:33:07Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 1:33:08Alex Cooper?

  That's why the fan edits are popping off, Rob.

• 1:33:10Speaker 01

  I don't, I just did.

• 1:33:11Alex Cooper?

  No, I actually think Miguel is an awesome guy. And it's gonna be interesting to see. This is the fascination around the show. It's like, he, what, he lives in the UK, right?

• 1:33:20Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:33:20Alex Cooper?

  And she lives in Calabasas. It's gonna be interesting for people, and same with Aaron, right? Like, he doesn't, he's gonna.

• 1:33:26Speaker 01

  He's moving to America.

• 1:33:27Alex Cooper?

  Where does Kayla live?

• 1:33:28Speaker 01

  Pennsylvania.

• 1:33:29Alex Cooper?

  Oh my god, I'm from Pennsylvania.

• 1:33:30Speaker 01

  She's from a town of 6,000.

• 1:33:32Alex Cooper?

  No, no, no. Is Aaron gonna move there?

• 1:33:35Speaker 01

  Truly not.

• 1:33:36Alex Cooper?

  No, they're gonna move to LA.

• 1:33:37Speaker 01

  Aaron will hate LA.

• 1:33:39Alex Cooper?

  I don't know. Aaron seems to love those flashy lights.

• 1:33:41Speaker 01

  He will hate LA.

• 1:33:42Alex Cooper?

  You think?

• 1:33:43Speaker 01

  I hate LA. That's why I moved. No offense. It's great for other people. Too much concrete for me.

• 1:33:48Alex Cooper?

  Too much concrete.

• 1:33:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:50Alex Cooper?

  You need the woods. Okay, Rob, is there anything else you wanna say? Like, do you feel like you got everything off your chest?

• 1:33:55Speaker 01

  I'm sure after this, I'm gonna think of a million things. I'm like, damn, I should've said that, but like.

• 1:33:59Alex Cooper?

  Let's leave it for now.

• 1:34:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:34:01Alex Cooper?

  I'll see you in a year. We'll catch up. We'll check in. See how you feel about it all.

• 1:34:05Speaker 01

  Whatever you need.

• 1:34:06Alex Cooper?

  Thank you, Rob, for coming on.

• 1:34:07Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:34:08Alex Cooper?

  This was lovely.

• 1:34:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:34:09Alex Cooper?

  This was a nice time.

• 1:34:10Speaker 01

  It was good. I was like, it was good.

• 1:34:12Alex Cooper?

  Like, you didn't feel, like, was it harder than you thought it was gonna be?

• 1:34:16Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:34:17Alex Cooper?

  Was it more fun than you thought it was gonna be?

• 1:34:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:34:21Alex Cooper?

  That's good. You came in here nervous.

• 1:34:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely. I'm still nervous.

• 1:34:26Alex Cooper?

  Do you wanna call Dave Portnoy?

• 1:34:27Speaker 01

  Yes. I love Dave Portnoy.

• 1:34:30Alex Cooper?

  Wait, you're a Barstool guy?

• 1:34:32Speaker 01

  Not really, but I like him. He's just like.

• 1:34:35Alex Cooper?

  Cool.

• 1:34:35Speaker 01

  I know people hate him, but like, I like him.

• 1:34:37Alex Cooper?

  Dave is Dave.

• 1:34:38Speaker 01

  He's just Dave. I like genuine people. It was the same, yeah.

• 1:34:41Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:34:42Speaker 01

  I like genuine folk. I like people that are just themselves and they don't really give a fuck.

• 1:34:45Alex Cooper?

  Dave is honest. Dave is very honest. Even if it hurts your feelings, he's honest.

• 1:34:49Speaker 01

  He's gonna be honest. He's gonna be Dave. I like that about him.

• 1:34:52Alex Cooper?

  Okay, let's go call him.

• 1:35:08Alex Cooper?

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