Bonus Episode - Disgraceful Music and Movie Recommendations and More

In this week's After Party, Jake shares some music and movie recommendations based on the research that went into this year's Disgraceland episodes. On Tuesday we're bringing you a brand new episode on Diddy, and Jake wants to know: Do you think Sean Combs is guilty of his alleged crimes? Why or why not? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, [email protected], or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 157 - Serge Gainsbourg Episode 6 - Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes Episode 160 - The Clash Episode 161 - Anthony Bourdain To hear an extended version of the After Party, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership. https://disgracelandpod.com/membership. Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch https://www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch! Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTER https://mailchi.mp/doubleelvis/disgraceland-email-newsletter Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/disgracelandpod/ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@disgracelandpod X https://twitter.com/disgracelandpod (formerly Twitter) Facebook Fan Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/491024204626127/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:13Jake Brennan?

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• 1:15Jake Brennan?

  Hey, Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand: the after party.

• 1:43Jake Brennan?

  Happy New Year, Discos. I hope you and your families are having a great holiday season and you guys are set up for a healthy and happy 2025. Speaking of healthy, I'm a bit under the weather. Excuse my voice. It's a little raspy. I'm a little congested. I hope you can hang with me for the next 30, 45 minutes here. Got a lot of stuff I want to talk to you about. There's a very short list of musicians who died on New Year's Day. This week's full episode subject, Hank Williams, is at the top of that list. Next In line is a country artist who did all he could to emulate Hank's hard living ways, Townes Van Zant. And after that, the list pretty much ends. You know, there are some session players, B-listers, but hardly any musicians of note other than Hank and Townes who kicked

• 2:25Jake Brennan?

  on New Year's. I think Ricky Nelson died on New Year's Eve. And my point is, it's a very short list. But nevertheless, the end of the year, it's a good time to reflect and to list out some of the things that we're grateful for, or that we're excited about, or that we want to talk about, other things that are on the horizon, or things that we just experienced in the past year. And one of the parts of this job that I don't talk about enough is, in addition to all the great stories that this research unearths for me, it also reveals a treasure trove of obviously incredible content from some of the greatest artists and entertainers from history. The research gives me reason to revisit classic albums and movies that I haven't listened

• 3:06Jake Brennan?

  to or watched in a while, turns me on to music and films that I may have missed the first time around, but just aren't part of my, my growing up, my formative years, whatever. We used to do a recommendations section in the after party that was pretty popular. So I thought that for the end of 2024 here, I'd recommend to you a handful of my favorite music and movies unearthed while researching this year's past batch of episodes, just a handful. I can't do all of them, obviously. We released like 1000 episodes this year. It's not, it's not quite a list, but one could make a short listening or a short watch list out of this episode if they were so inclined and easily occupy themselves for a whole weekend with some great content, if not more. So

• 3:49Jake Brennan?

  here's a small batch of recommendations for y'all to take into the new year. So back in the beginning of 2024, we released an episode on Serge Gainsbourg. And I mentioned this at the time, and it's worth repeating, the movie about Serge, it's called Serge Gainsbourg: A Heroic Life, might be the best musical biopic that I've ever seen. I haven't yet seen the Dylan biopic, A Complete Unknown. I hoped to go a couple of days ago. I was gonna bring my son when we were in Boston. It just, it didn't work out. And I wanted to go this weekend. Hopefully I can feel, feel better and go to the movie theater and not get people sick. So anyways, I haven't seen the movie, so I can't judge that movie against this Gainsbourg movie. The Gainsbourg movie doesn't have Timothy Chalamet in it. Okay. Just so you know. So it's

• 4:34Jake Brennan?

  got that going for it. I'm kidding, but not really. I'm not, I'm not that big of a fan of Timothy Chalamet, but I'm holding out hope that he'll surprise me in the Dylan movie. But back to Serge Gainsbourg, a heroic life. There is nothing like this movie, which is totally fitting because there was no one like Serge Gainsbourg. The movie, it pulls absolutely no punches. It makes no apologies. It's gritty. It's fantastical. It's ugly and it's beautiful, all at the same time. I highly recommend this film. And whether you're a Serge Gainsbourg fan or not, if you've never heard of Serge Gainsbourg, you're like, who the fuck is this guy talking Serge? What? This is a great place to start. It's one of these movies that if you were just like, channel surfing one

• 5:17Jake Brennan?

  afternoon on your couch and you came across this, the look of it would just pull you in immediately. You'd be completely intrigued by the character at the center of it. And you would end up watching it no matter where you started in the film, regardless of if you, if you had any idea at all who this musician was. And if you don't know who Serge Gainsbourg is, well, first of all, go back and listen to the disgraced land episode that we produced on him back in the beginning of 2024. But just second, he's a fantastic, fantastic musician whose career was completely unique. Second half of the 20th century, French songwriter turned crooner,

• 5:55Jake Brennan?

  turned controversial artist who created songs, who created albums in multiple genres and was always at the vanguard of pop culture. I can't recommend Serge Gainsbourg enough. And I can't recommend this film enough either. It's fantastic. And if you're looking for a Serge Gainsbourg album to pair this amazing film with, whether you're a Serge Gainsbourg fan or not, then look no further than History de Melodie Nelson. It's from 1971, but sounds like it could have been made in 2001. You're going to hear all kinds of modern artists who are influenced by this record when you listen to it, especially Beck. Okay. So that's History de Melodie Nelson,

• 6:35Jake Brennan?

  the record by Serge Gainsbourg. And the movie is Serge Gainsbourg, a heroic life. Check these out. All right. My oldest son asked me a couple of weeks ago if there are any great punk rock documentaries that we could watch, and I kind of drew a blank. And then I thought about The Clash and Westway to the World. It's a 2000 documentary made by the legendary Don Letts. I didn't think about this movie right away when my son asked me this question because the movie itself has taken on kind of mythical status in the past few decades. It's so awesome. It just, it seems more, it seems like more than a documentary. The live footage in this film will have you reaching for your guitar and speed dialing your friends to get, come over and start a punk

• 7:18Jake Brennan?

  band with you. This, this is an amazing film. It's exhilarating. When I think of this movie, I think of the Clash album, Give Him Enough Rope. I don't know, I don't know why, but for whatever reason, I think of Mick Jones a lot when I think of that record. And I think of Mick Jones a lot when I think of Westway to the World, because the Mick Jones stuff is intense. Fantastic film. Check it out, Westway to the World. And if you don't know Give Him Enough Rope, check that out. If you do know it, put it on. I feel like that's an overlooked one from The Clash's repertoire, and it's fantastic. So another rec here from one of our more popular episodes of 2024, the Anthony Bourdain episode. I think it was like the number three most downloaded one behind River, River Phoenix, maybe? I don't know. I don't know who the, who the top two were.

• 8:03Jake Brennan?

  I know Bourdain was, and then he kind of fell off, fell off the top of the block there. But in the Anthony Bourdain episode, we talk about Josh Homme from Queens of the Stone Age a bit. And it's just got to be mentioned that the Queen's record, Rated R, is incredible, and it should be part of any self-respecting rock and roll fan's collection. And for those of you still on holiday break with some time to kill after you binge a bunch of disgraced land episodes, including, like I said, the Anthony Bourdain episode, I recommend just going back to the early Bourdain, No Reservation episodes, season one, two, three, crushing a bunch of those. It's important to remember who the man was before he became the man that he was, if that makes any sense. And those early episodes are just fantastic. They're all fantastic. We know

• 8:45Jake Brennan?

  this. But this time of year is the year for binging, and of course, Anthony Bourdain will make for a great travel guide to your binge. We released a Dylan episode, Bob Dylan episode in May of 2024. And obviously, because of the new movie, A Complete Unknown, we should mention that there are two Dylan records that I love that don't get a lot of attention. And when they do that attention, it isn't necessarily positive. Bob Dylan's Street Legal from 1978 and Infidels from 1983. Infidels, Street Legal, okay? Street Legal, I don't know who pulls this record out first when they think of Bob Dylan records.

• 9:25Jake Brennan?

  I don't, but it is, it is a late in life favorite of mine. It has a controlled chaos about it that is representative of Dylan's life at that time in the late seventies. Divorce proceedings, all kinds of shit going on. You know, failing to make the movie that ABC wanted him to make, just a whole bunch of stuff that I, I don't, again, I haven't seen A Complete Unknown, but I doubt very much that they get into this phase of Dylan's life with, with any meat on the bone. Now, I could be wrong. Maybe people will go see A Complete Unknown and Street Legal in the late seventies. Dylan will be part of the film, films narrative and Street Legal will take on this other life, but I doubt it. But I just want to throw in my two cents here because it's a great record and y'all should check it out.

• 10:10Jake Brennan?

  Also, the other record I mentioned, Infidels, this record gets a little bit more positive glow from critics and Dylan fans, Infidels does than Street Legal. But it is still a fairly unknown Dylan album. Great record though, produced by Mark Knopfler from Dire Straits, who also plays guitar on this record alongside the incredible Jamaican reggae rhythm section of Sly and Robbie. Infidels is great, has one of my, I'm going to say it's definitely top 10, might be top five Dylan songs, Neighborhood Bully, just a great record. So check those out. Obviously those recommendations are inspired by the Bob Dylan episode that we produced for you guys earlier this year.

• 10:52Jake Brennan?

  Speaking of disgraced episodes, the Cramps episode, which we released in October, timed with Halloween, I really got into the research for this episode more so than I do a lot of other episodes because I didn't know the material that, that well. I didn't know the Cramps music that well. I of course had a couple of Cramps records, grew up in and around a scene that, where the Cramps were popular, but I'd never had my moment with the Cramps like I did with the Misfits, like I did with The Clash. So the Cramps were relatively new to me and I, and I really went back to the beginning and I listened to all the records, the trajectory of their creative output. And it was just a gas because this band is-

• 11:34Jake Brennan?

  Incredible. They're just amazing and they made great, great, great records. There's really not a bad one in the bunch. And if your cramps curious, okay, go back to the beginning and just start with their first, first album. It's grimy and beautiful. Songs the Lord taught us. Wow. What a title. Perfect title too. Check that out. Songs the Lord taught us by the cramps. All right. So I mentioned this before, but it's worth repeating. The Martin Scorsese Last Waltz episode we just released for Thanksgiving. This era of Scorsese is a new fascination of ours here at Disgraceland. And we're about to start researching a part two Scorsese episode to release during Oscar season 2025.

• 12:18Jake Brennan?

  So if you have not seen the Scorsese directed documentary, American Boy, you must. Okay. I know I mentioned this before on the after party when I first saw it about a year ago. But it is worth saying again, because this is, I mean, just wow. Documentary is the wrong word. I think I called it a documentary. It's, it's, I think Scorsese calls it a profile. This is Scorsese in the late seventies in a Hollywood Hills living room. I think it might be his house. I'm not, I'm not exactly sure. But he's with a bunch of his friends and mainly is with his buddy, Stephen Prince, the wired, super wired, tightly wired, real life lunatic who plays Easy Andy,

• 13:03Jake Brennan?

  the gun dealer from Taxi Driver. Stephen Prince's life was so fucking crazy, guys, that Scorsese was compelled to just turn on the camera and let him talk. And that's pretty much what the movie is. It's beautiful. It's fascinating. This is a one in a million type character. You can get this movie on HBO Max if you're an HBO Max subscriber, but I also think you can get it on YouTube for free. Either way, it's worth paying for. Highly, highly recommend American Boy by Martin Scorsese. So there's a handful of recommendations for you guys to occupy yourselves with over the remainder of your holiday break. If you need some stuff to watch and/or to listen to, I try to give you some off the cuff stuff and things that authentically and legitimately

• 13:48Jake Brennan?

  inspired me this year, new and old. So coming up, all right, what do we got coming up? We've got a couple rewind episodes that are going to hit your feed this week, next in your feed, after this bonus episode, a couple rewind episodes, the part one and part two Beach Boys story, mainly a Dennis Wilson story. They're timed for this time of year because there's heavy New Year's vibes in the part two episode dealing with Dennis's death. So dig into those. And next week, next week, we are back full bore with our newest episode on Sean Diddy Combs. Yes, a new, fully scripted, sound designed episode on the biggest news story from the music industry from 2024 and likely to be the biggest music story in 2025. This is music history in the making, guys. The story

• 14:33Jake Brennan?

  is massive. It goes all over the place. There's entirely too much to cover already. We haven't even had a trial yet. So for this episode, I treated the Diddy episode that we released, just rewind a minute here, I treated the Diddy episode that we released back at the end of 2023 that was produced before all this Diddy news hit. Okay. Before we made this, we made this episode before the allegations, before the indictment, before the Cassie Ventura abuse tape, and we released that episode back in December 2023. It's about the nightclub shooting. It's about the stampede where nine people died that Diddy was involved with. Now, that episode, that rewind episode will hit your feed on Monday and serve as a part

• 15:17Jake Brennan?

  one to our new Diddy episode, which is going to come on Tuesday. That's going to deal with the new allegations, namely the Cassie Ventura indictment and the true crime details behind that indictment. So I hope you're ready for all that. And when you're listening, just be thinking to yourself, Diddy denies all of these allegations, but what do you think? Do you think he was capable of committing these crimes alleged against him? Know what you know, I want to know what you and I want to know what you think. I want you to call me. That's the question of the week. Do you think Diddy did it? I want you to send me a voicemail. I want you to send me a text. Hit me up at disgracelandpod 617-906-6638. Did Diddy do it? Yes or no?

• 16:01Jake Brennan?

  And most importantly, why do you think he did or did not do it? Let me know 617-906-6638. Send me a voicemail or text at disgracelandpod DMs. All right, I want to take a quick break. I'll be back and flash with your voicemails, texts and DMs.

• 16:27Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

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• 17:35Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back. And because the king of the sad songs, Hank Williams is in the feed this week. We asked the question, which artists or which artist's songs tear you up emotionally? And I got to play this voicemail from the 540. I love disgraced listeners. If you pick this guy out at like a, you know, a state fair or your local bar, you would never, ever expect what he's going to say at the end of the voicemail regarding his musical taste. You guys are the best. Here, let's, uh, Matt, play the 540.

• 18:03Speaker 04

  Mr. Brennan, this is your buddy, Justin from the 540. Um, you had asked about, uh, songs that, uh, get you right into feelings. Um, I got, uh, two. Um, the first one's going to be, uh, Fast Cars by Tracy Chapman. That is, when they came out, I heard it like the first time and I don't, I don't know that I've really heard the whole thing ever again. I just got, it's such a sad song. It's so hopeless. But the, the second one is, um, Alice Cooper's Only Women Bleed. When I heard Alice Cooper's version, I, I really, it's

• 18:47Speaker 04

  a great song. It's a beautiful song. It's well done. It sounds great. When, uh, your favorite and my favorite, Lita Ford, when she did Only Women Bleed, dude, that'll rip your, that'll rip your heart out your chest. If you don't, if you don't tear up on that one, then you don't have a soul. But those, those are the two. Oh, uh, and just in general, any Tori Amos song I hear usually would make me cry. I try not to listen to that a whole lot. That's, that's really sad. But anyway, um, those are, those are the ones, man. Rock and roll.

• 19:27Jake Brennan?

  Appreciate you 540. Cornflake Girl by Tori Amos. Got me as well. Always gets me, I should say. And man, Alice Cooper, this is the third bonus episode in a row. You guys have brought him up. I don't know. I'll say it again. I think there's an Alice Cooper episode that we have to do. All right, let's hear from the 203. This is John from the 203. I would really love to have an episode on Willie DeVille, formerly of Mink DeVille.

• 19:53Speaker 05

  From what I understand, he had a horrible 20-year heroin habit. And he sounds like a cross between Lou Reed and Tom Waits. Brilliant lyrics, great singer. Thank you.

• 20:06Jake Brennan?

  John, I love that Mick DeVille record with Cadillac Walk on it, Cabretta. I think that's how you pronounce it. Guys, if you want a recommendation, this album that I just mentioned, Cabretta by Mick DeVille, incredible. And John, not sure if you caught the Mick DeVille reference in the recent Elvis Presley, Johnny Ace episode of Disgrace and Hit Me Back. Let me know if you did or did not, and I'm fascinated by Willie DeVille. And just so you know, John, when I did some live shows a couple of years back, I used his music as my intro music. We'll get to, we'll get to Willie eventually. John, when you do hit me back also, please let me know what you think of Garland Jeffries. All right, let's do some texts here. The 716 writes in, hey, musician that guts me with every thought and every word is David Berman of Silver Jews.

• 20:51Jake Brennan?

  Always visceral. 716, thank you for this. This is part of why I love you guys so much. It's, you know, I give you recommendations, but I get recommendations as well. I, Silver Jews, David Berman, I believe died a couple of years ago, right? And it was one of those artists that I'd heard of for years, but never really had spent any time with. So 716, hit me back. Give me a recommendation on where to start with David Berman's music. Okay. All right, the 812 writes in, same topic here. Hey, in regards to your question, a singer that always gets in my heart and usually makes me tear up is Christina Aguilera. Man, that woman has some pipes and emotion as always enjoying the podcast. Rock on, Holly, coming from the 812. Thank you, Holly. Appreciate you.

• 21:36Jake Brennan?

  Holly, hit me back. Let me know which Christina Aguilera song gets you the most. Okay, give me one song to listen to because I'm not necessarily a fan, but I trust your instinct here and your taste. So hit me back and let me know what you're thinking and start me on my Christina Aguilera tear journey, if you will. Okay, 775 texts in. You're Lisa Left Eye Lopez and your bandmates have just made a joke of one of your most serious songs on New Year's Eve. You're rolling in your grave. 775 is obviously talking about the New Year's Eve performance with TLC with the remix of Waterfalls and the internet is reacting and basically claiming that it was a disaster. It was ridiculous and they want their five minutes back. I didn't see it, so I can't comment.

• 22:23Jake Brennan?

  But how do you do any Lisa Left Eye Lopez song without Lisa Left Eye Lopez? How do you do that song in particular? I mean, come on. She was iconic. It's like Led Zeppelin without John Bonham. Doesn't work. 209 texts in, hey, that Chris Farley episode rocked me. In the early and mid 90s, I was Farley. 6'3", 290, small town, three sport captain in my high school of 200 people. Saturday nights, I did not go out to party with friends like everyone else. We didn't have a VCR to record SNL and lord knows, we didn't have YouTube. I had to be home to watch my idol. He was the first celebrity I saw that I thought I could be.

• 23:06Jake Brennan?

  Big, gregarious, made everyone laugh and had pain deep inside. I watched all the skits, tried to emulate them for my friends who missed them at a kegger in the hills of Northwest Washington, had just as much play with the ladies as Farley. Hell, I even wore 59 in football because I heard he did. I got side by sides to prove it. I saw Tommy Boy in the theaters 12 times. To this day, the only celebrity who made me openly weep when they passed is Chris Farley. His legacy and antics still live in me. His story is real and honestly, I had those trajectories laid out before me. So just as his comedy gave me life, the stories of his tragedy have kept me alive, knowing I'm just a binge away from the same cliff. Thanks for telling it, JB. And that comes from the 209.

• 23:49Jake Brennan?

  209, I appreciate you, appreciate the text. Appreciate your love for the big man, Chris Farley. 201 texts in, yo, it's Gucci from the 201 via 617/410. I got the 411 on those drones. I first saw several, five at least, on December 12th and I've sporadically seen a few since. They were flying above the Hudson River about one mile from the George Washington Bridge and they seemed to be flying a distinct path, one following another fairly low over the river. They were so close to the bridge. In my opinion, there is no way that these are not US military. Otherwise, they would have been destroyed on sight for sure. It seems as they are either searching for something or tracing a pathway. I'm not exactly sure. I really wish they were in fact, some intergalactic planetary beings coming to take me to another

• 24:34Jake Brennan?

  dimension, another dimension.

• 24:38Jake Brennan?

  Thanks for the update from the greater New York, New Jersey area there. Gucci, appreciate you. 702 on the same subject, 702 wishes to remain anonymous, so I shall not reveal the name. 702 says, "I'm a retired military officer and I worked in the intelligence community. I don't live in New Jersey and I've only seen the drones online, specifically YouTube. My two cents, they're US government drones, US Air Force, possibly in conjunction with the Department of Energy, looking for something. They fly at night because they're probably using infrared thermal imaging, which works better in the dark. Think about it. The drones have lights because they want to be visible to air traffic. If those drones were a threat, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, you'd see USAV, CAP,

• 25:23Jake Brennan?

  combat air patrol fighter jets shooting them down. Instead, authorities are telling people not to shoot at them. Cheers." This makes sense and this is probably the most, probably the scariest of all the possibilities, that they're looking for something too dangerous to mention. I don't want to go into that anymore because I don't want to speculate on it because I think it's irresponsible. But I appreciate the text there from both you guys. Brendan Kennedy on Facebook writes, "Hey, at the Casbah in San Diego tonight to watch Starcrawler. Those guys are helping to keep rock and roll alive." And I'm reading Brendan on Facebook's message to me here for a reason.

• 26:03Jake Brennan?

  It's because a lot of you have written in on my take that rock and roll is dead to tell me that I'm wrong and that there are great bands out there, great rock and roll bands out there performing every night. And I just have to say, I have to clarify one more time. This is what I've said from the beginning. Though there are great rock and roll bands out there playing every night, rock and roll is still dead in the sense that it does not affect mainstream culture, it doesn't drive popular culture in the way that it once did throughout the second half of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century. Starcrawler, great band. Loca Connie, great band. Lots of bands are still going from back in the day when rock and roll was not dead in the early part of the 21st century. Queens of the Stone Age, who I mentioned before. Jack White's

• 26:47Jake Brennan?

  Still out there slinging it. There are great rock and roll bands that I have never heard of, who are playing right now, somewhere in America, blowing minds, melting faces in small clubs, basements, DIY shows. I get it. I know it. I support it. I'm here for it. I love it. But it doesn't change the fact that rock and roll no longer affects mainstream culture the way that it once did. Therefore, I believe rock and roll is going, perhaps has gone the way of the dodo bird, the way of jazz music, where it is a niche music. Okay? It is a niche music that was once dominant on the charts and no longer is, is no longer driving mainstream culture. Starcrawler, you know, I know who they are. You know who they are.

• 27:32Jake Brennan?

  They're fantastic. Sure. But America doesn't really know who they are. Okay? So it's our little secret. And that's okay, too. I'm just saying, it ain't like it was. And our job here is to talk about those stories from those days when it was great. And we are preserving the spirit of rock and roll as we go in our own way, just as Starcrawler is in their own way. Appreciate the message, Brendan. I didn't mean to unload on you. That wasn't the point. I just used your message to sort of tee up this larger message to make my point. All right. Marie Suzanne Todd on Instagram hits us up. Hey, I hope the festive season has treated you kindly. I'm up to date on the episodes. Now, I love the episode on Shane McGowan. Hope I spelled that right. I'm dyslexic. I wondered if you've ever looked into Kirsty McCall's death in the late 90s.

• 28:14Jake Brennan?

  She died in a speedboat accident, which is only half the story. She was scuba diving with her boyfriend and children when a speedboat came into the area they were swimming at. And I believe that was an area where speedboats were banned. She managed to push her son out of the way, but was killed instantly. And the family had to fight for years for justice because the guy responsible was a high profile politician, I think. Don't quote me on that. I'm definitely not saying that the guy responsible was a high profile politician, but I do appreciate this text. I'd heard this story before, and I like that you are bringing it to my attention one more time here, Marie. I'm gonna check this out. Perhaps there is a Kirsty McCall episode in the future. Okay, this week's story of the week. You know what we're doing here. This is a new thing we're trying out. I want your stories of rock and roll.

• 28:57Jake Brennan?

  Animalism, stories you love, that you've learned about, stories that you've perhaps been a part of, and it can be anything. It can be any story you encounter with any sort of rock star, your experience at any kind of concert, some story you may have heard of or read about or seen in a documentary that I don't know about that you want to tell me about, or it could even be a story that I've already told, that you find super compelling and want to hear more on. Hit me up, let me know what your story is, okay? That's what we're asking for every week, and then I'm going to highlight your disco story of the week here in the after-party, and perhaps elsewhere. Working on that piece right now. But this week's story of the week comes from the 412 by the way of the 724.

• 29:38Speaker 04

  Hey Jake, I'm in the 724, moving into the 412. Name's Booze. Wanted to share a rock and roll animal story, early 80s. Went to check out Rat and Billy Squire, Wasm Music Center up near Cleveland. Rat was killer, real good time. Billy Squire's doing his set, and he starts doing a preamble into a song, he's talking shit, telling a couple of stories, and, right, I just got the urge, and I stood up and I yelled, "Stroke me!" at the top of my lungs. And it was like, the whole place, right at that particular moment, took a breath. And I just run out across the whole

• 30:21Speaker 04

  freaking place. He stopped and turned, and like, pointed out at me, and was like, "That's what I'm talking about, brother!" And they started playing the strip. Here, standing up on my arms, man, was the baddest act moment of my life. Have a good day, bro.

• 30:35Jake Brennan?

  Man, all that was missing from this is the needle sliding off of the turntable. Thanks for sharing, Booze. Billy Squire, isn't Billy Squire from Massachusetts? I think he was. I think he was originally, from Newton or something. I could be wrong. Great story. Guys, again, hit me up. I want to hear your stories of rock and roll animalism. Call me 617-906-6638. Text me, hit me up at disgracelandpod, let me know. Like I said, I'm going to start featuring him here and elsewhere, creating some sort of living document of all this rock and roll storytelling. So when the aliens finally do land in their drone-like vessels in New Jersey, they'll have something to reference to fully understand the culture of the 20th and early 21st century, all right? So hit me up. I'll be back in a flash with your reviews and your emails and

• 31:19Jake Brennan?

  the bonus episode of this after-party, where I'm going to give you my predictions for 2025.

• 31:30Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

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• 32:36Jake Brennan?

  All right, guys, we are back. Going to read a couple of reviews here from y'all. If you hear your review mentioned, hit me up. Get in touch. [email protected], 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text at disgracelandpod on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, X. If you hear your review, let me know. I appreciate the reviews. You know I appreciate the reviews. The reviews are how we get discovered, guys. We are an independent podcast, and the reviews help the algorithms surface the podcast so that new listeners can find the show. This one comes from Helltown Mark, who writes, "The!" exclamation point, "Best!" exclamation point, "Five stars. I freaking love!" all caps, "This podcast. It's all the sex, drugs,

• 33:18Jake Brennan?

  and rock and roll stories you ever heard, and so much more that you haven't. And if you text the host about Seth Putnam from AC, sometimes he gets back to you. Genuinely, some of the best storytelling I've ever heard, even if you've never heard of that episode's subject. Just a great listen." Helltown Mark, get in touch. We'll get you some merch out in the mail. Appreciate that review. Moxie3D on Spotify writes, "In relationship to our Derek in the Dominos episode, this episode, guys, it was a rewind episode, Christmas themed episode. We dropped it in the feed, obviously, for the holiday season and did so because there's a, there's a, there's a beeline story in this Derek in the Dominos episode that is largely about schizophrenia. There's a beeline

• 34:00Jake Brennan?

  story in there on a horrific Christmas Day murder called the Lawson murders. Moxie3D on Spotify writes, "As someone who lived near where those murders happened with the murdered family, it's disturbing to hear this in such a dark tone. I love this podcast and I will continue to recommend it to my family and my friends. Moxie3D, thank you very much. Appreciate the reviews, guys. Keep them coming. Get in touch if you heard your name mentioned and we'll get you some merch. You want to hit me up on any other subject at all? Email [email protected]. All right, this one comes from Carolyn Turgen, who writes, "In reference to our question of the week last week on, on music, songs, songwriters who tear us up. Carolyn writes in, and I'm reading Carolyn's

• 34:44Jake Brennan?

  email here just because we're in kind of a recommendations mood in this, this podcast episode. Carolyn writes in, "Hey, I don't know why, but I've always preferred music that devastates me as thoroughly as possible. So of course, I love the following: Leonard Cohen, Nick Cave, Roland S. Howard, Otto Illuminescent, I don't know what that is, Lou Reed, the Berlin album is my favorite, plus dreaming, Dvotska's How It Ends album, Anthony and the Johnsons' Hope There's Someone, Magnetic Fields, My Only Friend, Modern Lover slash Jonathan Richman." There's a lot there that I'm aware of and a lot there that I'm unfamiliar with that I'm excited to get into. And Carolyn, I thank you for the email. Guys, this episode is nearing its end, but as you know, the

• 35:28Jake Brennan?

  after-party continues. Okay, it's New Year's. Of course, there's an after after-party. It's for the All-Access members. You're gonna get a little bonus, little, little, little, little bonus piece here. All right, little, little something extra for you. Okay, I'm gonna give you my predictions for 2025. To become an All Access member, you just gotta go to disgracelandpod.com/membership and sign up and you're gonna get the bonus section of the after-party. Plus, you're going to get a fully scripted exclusive episode per month and, and, and, ad-free listening and access to the rest of the Disco community on Patreon in the Patreon chat, including myself. That's disgracelandpod.com/membership. All right, I'm gonna take a quick break. Back in flash.

• 36:28Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back. Happy New Years, everybody. Once again, I want to thank you all for your listening this year. I appreciate you, guys. I'm looking forward to a fantastic 2025. I hope you guys had a great holiday season with your families. I'm grateful for you all being along with me for this ride going into the new year and beyond. All right. So in this episode, once again, we mentioned a lot of previously covered Disgrace Land subjects. Serge Gainsbourg, go back and check that episode out if you have not. Just search Serge Gainsbourg in your web browser and Disgrace Land episode. It'll bring it up in whichever player you want to hear that in. The Clash, an episode we don't talk about enough here in Disgrace Land. Search The Clash in Disgrace Land episode. You'll find that as well. That's in the archive. That's easier to find. The Anthony Bourdain episode

• 37:11Jake Brennan?

  was brought up. You can find that everywhere as well. Same with TLC, going back to season one of Disgrace Land. All right. Check those episodes out. Perfect for your extended holiday vacation binge. All right. So let's recap, shall we? Number one, I want your story. Call me, text me, hit me on the socials. Your favorite story of rock and roll animalism, as wild a story about any rock star that you're aware of, that you want to tell me that I've already told you perhaps, anything you want me to know more about. A story from you and your friends going to a concert, a story you guys continuously talk about, whatever it is, tell me who you are, tell me where you're from, and how long you've been listening to Disgrace Land, and you may get featured as the story of the week. Number two, right now, in your feed, our episode on Hank Williams.

• 37:55Jake Brennan?

  Number three, tomorrow, a special New Year's Rewind episode from our archive on Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys, who passed away right around this time. Number four, merch winners, get in touch, you know who you are. Number five, remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And well, that is a disgrace. All right. In honor of New Year's Day, me, reading you, the Billboard charts from January 10th, 1983, the day you two released their song, "New Year's Day." Number one, Down Under, Men at Work. Last week, four, Peak Position, one, Weeks on Chart, 11. Number two, The Girl Is Mine, Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney.

• 38:38Jake Brennan?

  Last week, two, Peak Position, two, Weeks on Chart, 11. Number three, Dirty Laundry, Don Henley. Last week, three, Peak Position, three, Weeks on Chart, 12. Number four, Man, Darryl Hall and John Oates. Last week, one, Peak Position, one, Weeks on Chart, 14. Number five, Peak Position, one, Weeks on Chart, 16. Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it!

• 39:22Jake Brennan?

  I like a story with a twist as much as anyone, but some of the best traditions don't have one. They just started and kept going. That's something that's great about Chateau St. Michelle. They've been leading Washington wine since 1967 with wines that are balanced, expressive, and easy to enjoy. Choosing the right bottle shouldn't feel complicated. It should be something you open with confidence every time. So for once, here's a story with no twist, just a good bottle. Redefine your rituals with Chateau St. Michelle.

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• 40:24Jake Brennan?

  Hey guys, time to dust off your detective skills while unwinding in the Caribbean on Virgin Voyages' second true crime voyage. It's back by popular demand. This five-night, adults-only escape sets sail March 20, 2027, to Grand Turk in the Beach Club at Bimini. The difference between this year and last will be that I will be on the cruise this year along with Zeth, and he and I will be taping a live version of DisgraceLand along with podcast hosts from Exactly Right's Buried Bones, Podcast of the Year Award winners, Wise Crack, and other fan favorites. Get on this cruise with us, guys, and enjoy live podcast recordings, behind-the-scenes storytelling, exclusive meet-and-greets, and immersive true crime programming throughout this one-of-a-kind voyage.

• 41:09Jake Brennan?

  Head over to www.virginvoyages.com/trucrime to secure your spot.