Fraud Friday: The Fruitcake Funneler w/ the Florida Girls

Laci welcomes the WHOLE cast of Florida Girls, Laura Chinn, Patty Guggenheim, and Melanie Field! Honey, they gossip about the lavish embezzlement carried out by Texan fruitcake mogul Sandy Jenkins in this OG episode. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 01/20/2020) CONgregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Laura Chinn: @laurachinnnn Patty Guggenheim: @patriscuit Melanie Field: @melanie__field Research by Laci Mosley SOURCES: https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/just-desserts/ https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/1/6/21048947/whitney-young-swim-coach-principal-pool-inspector-general

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• 2:07Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:48Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Yes, I named the show after me. And we're back with a very special edition of the show. Guys, I always say I'm excited, but I am super ecstatic, honey, for these guests. I have my cast members and very good friends from Florida Girls in the building. I will introduce them to you one back one, honey. Starting with right across from me, what is up? It is Miss Patricia, AKA Patty Guggenheim. You've seen her, obviously, on Florida Girls. You can see her in Splitting Up Together. She's a ground sling, honey. Hey Patty, how are you? Hi, oh my gosh, I'm so good. I'm so happy to be here. I'm happy you're here. We finally did it. It's so hard to get everybody's schedules together, honey. Everyone is so busy.

• 3:34Laci Mosley?

  Uh, next, next to Patty, we have Melanie Field. You can see my girl Melanie in the second season of You, Honey.

• 3:42Speaker 05

  Honey?

• 3:43Laci Mosley?

  Yes, playing Sunrise. I love me some Sunrise.

• 3:46Speaker 05

  That's a scam.

• 3:48Laci Mosley?

  And obviously, it's Kaitlyn on Florida Girls. And Patty plays Erica on Florida Girls. I should've said that, too. And across from her is the Laura Cheney creator and star of Florida Girls, uh, and a very good friend of mine as well. Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm so good, how are you? I'm good. Other than the fact that, like, I'm glad this is a podcast chat, because y'all can't see my under eyes are swollen right now. I just, I use some face cream, but it's like expensive face cream. Yeah, but expensive doesn't mean you're not gonna be allergic.

• 4:16Speaker 05

  That's true.

• 4:16Laci Mosley?

  No, my skin is very not hypoallergenic to money.

• 4:22Speaker 06

  I'm allergic to pore only.

• 4:24Laci Mosley?

  I am very allergic to pore.

• 4:27Laci Mosley?

  I'm like, is that pore? No, that'd break me out. Don't put that pore on me. Oh, no, it's probably allergies.

• 4:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 4:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. I probably just need to change my pillowcase.

• 4:37Speaker 05

  That's how you know it's time.

• 4:38Speaker 06

  Do you do silk pillowcase?

• 4:40Laci Mosley?

  No, I use a little, uh, cause I don't like how like I have an oily skin, so I don't use a pillowcase that's silky, cause it'll like.

• 4:46Speaker 06

  Leave your face behind.

• 4:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 4:47Speaker 05

  I recently learned that dust mites, um, are like living things.

• 4:53Speaker 06

  They're like living all over there.

• 4:54Speaker 05

  Like I had no.

• 4:55Speaker 06

  No, there are dust mites.

• 4:56Speaker 05

  Like, I was like, oh, dust mites is just like a cute word for like little dust particles. It's like, no, they're mites. That means they're animals.

• 5:02Speaker 06

  They have little legs.

• 5:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 5:03Speaker 06

  And teeth.

• 5:04Laci Mosley?

  You've never watched them like, uh, videos, uh, on the Discovery Channel where they like zoom into them real hard and then they walk around on all your shit?

• 5:10Speaker 05

  No, and I don't wanna, I don't wanna know.

• 5:13Speaker 06

  They're just eating your skin and your hair.

• 5:15Speaker 05

  And your skin.

• 5:16Speaker 06

  Yeah. It's nasty.

• 5:17Speaker 05

  Disgusting.

• 5:18Speaker 06

  And that's why your mattress, they say, if you have a mattress for like 10 years, it weighs like 15 pounds heavier because it's filled with like your body and the bugs that eat your body while you sleep.

• 5:28Laci Mosley?

  Delicious. Guys, change those mattresses. That's not a scam.

• 5:33Speaker 06

  Change your mattress. It is a scam because I work for a mattress company.

• 5:37Laci Mosley?

  You did?

• 5:38Speaker 06

  So, no, I'm just kidding.

• 5:40Speaker 05

  Laura plugs her mattress company now.

• 5:42Speaker 06

  Gotta buy a mattress.

• 5:43Speaker 05

  Big mattress, two years.

• 5:44Speaker 06

  She's really Larry, that guy from those mattress commercials.

• 5:47Laci Mosley?

  What's all the relationships with scams? Like, have you ever been scammed? Have you ever been scammed?

• 5:52Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 5:53Speaker 05

  I own an Apple phone, so I feel like, I feel like Apple's the biggest scam.

• 5:56Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, we talk about the blue tech gang, gang. I'll never leave, though.

• 6:00Speaker 05

  It's the, it's the type of thing where like, every time I go into the Apple Store, I'm buying something new, but I'm aware I'm being scammed at all times. But I'm not gonna do anything about it. I'm not gonna change. I'm not gonna get the Samsung thing, even though they have Samsung stores now.

• 6:14Laci Mosley?

  They have a whole store for, for the Android?

• 6:17Speaker 05

  It's like a full, like, the Apple Store, but for Samsung.

• 6:20Laci Mosley?

  Who was in there? What kind of people?

• 6:21Speaker 05

  It was empty.

• 6:23Speaker 06

  Is it, is it like a fact that Apple isn't as good as these other phones?

• 6:28Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 6:28Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 6:29Laci Mosley?

  There's operating, so like, it's almost like the MacBook and then like the Windows operating system. There's a reason like why schools and a lot of places still have Windows operating systems because like for when you're doing work and stuff, or when you're opening spreadsheets, or when you're doing, you know, that kind of work, it's just simpler and less conversion than if you have a MacBook and you have to use iOS programs. However, it's just sexier. It's the bad bitch technology.

• 6:51Speaker 05

  It's like, it's direct.

• 6:52Speaker 07

  It's efficient. I feel like it's, um, you know, it, you can, what's it called when you can like easily do things?

• 6:59Speaker 06

  Efficient?

• 7:00Speaker 05

  User friendly.

• 7:00Speaker 07

  User friendly.

• 7:01Speaker 05

  Also, but the scam of it is like, you know, they're always changing the jackpots.

• 7:05Speaker 07

  Oh, God.

• 7:06Speaker 05

  You have to get something new. Or like, I just got a new phone and it started acting up. So I was like, oh, it's just a bad one. And I brought it back to the store and was like, this act phone is acting up. I bought it two weeks ago. It's time for new, like, I need a new one, change it out. And then they asked me what was wrong with it. And I was like, the screen's kind of weird. And well, they wouldn't give me a new phone. They just replaced the screen. They're like, it's not the phone. It's like, you need a new screen. I'm like, I bought it two weeks ago. I feel like I'm well within the warranty. I should just get a brand new one.

• 7:29Laci Mosley?

  Damn, they tried to scam you.

• 7:30Speaker 07

  Scamming you.

• 7:31Speaker 05

  They did scam you.

• 7:32Laci Mosley?

  Oh, damn, use that warranty, especially if you have it. You gotta use it. But they will try to like cheap you out.

• 7:37Speaker 05

  It's ridiculous.

• 7:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh, man. I, the thing I hate about it most is like now that I get on airplanes and I have AirPods, I'm like, how am I supposed to hear the plane? Like, how am I supposed to hear the TV on the plane?

• 7:46Speaker 07

  Exactly. You have to have an adapter.

• 7:48Laci Mosley?

  You have to have a, you have to bring it. There's no adapter to an AirPod.

• 7:51Speaker 07

  No, you have to bring that with you. You have to bring that little bink bink and then you're not the, the AirPod.

• 7:55Laci Mosley?

  Then you have to bring your other, yeah, I was about to say, you can't AirPod on the plane. There's no Bluetooth.

• 8:00Speaker 06

  I have a laptop that's from 2014 and they don't sell laptop cases for it anymore. So I'm like, I guess I have to get a new laptop.

• 8:07Speaker 07

  You have to make one.

• 8:08Laci Mosley?

  They're making my own sleeve.

• 8:11Speaker 05

  Every, every industry has learned how to create middlemen where there need be none.

• 8:16Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah. I mean, here are the scam of light bulbs.

• 8:20Speaker 05

  Oh no, it's a light bulb.

• 8:22Speaker 07

  Oh yeah, light bulbs. You don't need them. You don't need them. You don't need light? Because the sun got scammed. No, so like they created, so light bulbs should, like they were created first and they would work forever. Like a hundred years at a time. And they made them so that they would burn out. So you are having to buy light bulbs over and over and over again now. But they, I mean, I guess LED is kind of in that now where okay, but the lighting is so bad with LED. But they originally started with light bulbs that would just like, you would have one for your lifetime.

• 8:55Speaker 06

  Oh, that'd be amazing. Could you imagine like going to get your light bulb is like a big deal?

• 8:59Speaker 07

  Yeah, like, oh, it's huge, my college light bulb.

• 9:03Speaker 05

  I've had this light bulb since birth, honestly.

• 9:06Speaker 07

  But it's like a whole industry of like figuring out how to make things like break.

• 9:11Speaker 05

  Well, that's what I feel like Apple's doing. It's like, it's making it, like I, like I said, I, my experience with scams is like, I try to avoid them at all costs. Like I'm pretty savvy. I'm not gonna like fall into traps. I think I'm pretty good with that. But like Apple is a scam that I sign up for. I sign up for it willingly.

• 9:26Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 9:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and I don't read the contract. In fact, I'm trying to get with Apple so I can get my own clauses up in there since everybody just signing their life away.

• 9:33Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 9:33Laci Mosley?

  Like you didn't read your Apple contract? I also have a clause.

• 9:36Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 9:37Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and it means that you need to give me your kidney. You should have read it. Yeah, it says here the longest shining light bulb shone, shone for a hundred and ten years.

• 9:47Speaker 05

  That's what I'm saying.

• 9:47Speaker 07

  Wow, a hundred and ten years.

• 9:50Laci Mosley?

  So they should technically outlive us.

• 9:52Speaker 05

  Wow. Exactly, but instead you have to buy one every couple of months.

• 9:55Laci Mosley?

  This is trash.

• 9:56Speaker 07

  Yeah, it's trash.

• 9:57Laci Mosley?

  Well, we had a listener write in. Um, guys, if you have a scam that you've currently been duped with, I'm so sorry, I will laugh, but please share it with me. Or if you are running a scam that you've retired, like I say, I don't want to fuck your bag up, email us at [email protected]. Today's listener letter comes from Roddy Rich. That's a fake name. If y'all know, you know. Um, the box. Um, y'all know who Roddy Rich is?

• 10:22Speaker 06

  No.

• 10:23Laci Mosley?

  I just had a lick in the box. I just, okay, well, he currently has the album that is like competing with Selena Gomez is rare to be number one. So it's on top and like we're just streaming the box. We're streaming the box all day for, for racist. JK, Selena's not a racist, but we, we still streaming the box.

• 10:39Speaker 06

  Just kidding, Selena's not a racist.

• 10:42Laci Mosley?

  Well, as far as we know now.

• 10:43Speaker 06

  As of right now, today.

• 10:45Laci Mosley?

  Today.

• 10:46Speaker 06

  But by the time this airs, she might be.

• 10:48Laci Mosley?

  They might dig up a blog, honey. That's how they got Kamea Cabayo. She had a racism blog.

• 10:52Speaker 06

  What was her blog? What did she say?

• 10:54Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 10:54Laci Mosley?

  Oh sis, it, it was so long and full of so many racisms.

• 10:57Speaker 06

  No, really. Was she racist against everybody?

• 11:00Laci Mosley?

  Well, mostly black and brown people and Asian people.

• 11:03Speaker 05

  I'm on it, I'm on it.

• 11:04Laci Mosley?

  Hold on, let me see if I can pull it up real quick.

• 11:07Speaker 05

  Oh, I'm Googling as we speak.

• 11:08Speaker 06

  So she had a blog that she forgot to take down where she would go on racist rants?

• 11:12Laci Mosley?

  Oh, when I say sis was out here, like, if you were looking for a blog for, on Tumblr for racism specifically, like, you would go to her. You'd be like, no, she's the biggest in the game. Like, you need those racist memes?

• 11:23Speaker 05

  It was a Tumblr.

• 11:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Tumblr blog.

• 11:26Speaker 06

  Oh no. But why? She had to share her racist thoughts. She was trying to get friends together to share.

• 11:33Laci Mosley?

  Kamea Cabayo was working overtime for racism. I was like, girl, sis, you should took a break. Like, this is, you working too hard.

• 11:38Speaker 06

  And a full singing career too. That's like a lot. That's a full schedule.

• 11:42Laci Mosley?

  But the Twitter gangsters, they had a receipt.

• 11:45Speaker 07

  And she goes to Movies at the Grove. I saw her there.

• 11:46Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 11:47Laci Mosley?

  So her, her blog was called John316 on Tumblr. And she was retweeting things, or reblogging things like these buckets of chicken, these little negroes. Watermelons. But that was just where it began. Watermelon.

• 12:00Speaker 06

  But what is it? Just a photo?

• 12:01Laci Mosley?

  This is a photo of a white woman playing basketball, holding some chicken. And then there's a black woman who's also playing basketball behind her who really wants the chicken. Yeah, she replaced the chicken with, or the basketball with a chicken.

• 12:13Speaker 06

  Wait.

• 12:14Laci Mosley?

  Apparently.

• 12:15Speaker 06

  I, I want to know if she did the photo shopping of that.

• 12:18Laci Mosley?

  If she did that, I would respect it more. Here's one that was like a little black baby in pink that's supposed to say piglet, but it says nigglet. Yeah, it goes on forever. There's tons of them.

• 12:26Speaker 05

  Her apology that she issued was like, says that she was sixteen. She was younger and ignorant at the time. And now it says, I'm twenty-two now. I'm an adult and I've grown and learned.

• 12:36Laci Mosley?

  In six years, she got a black friend named Normani.

• 12:40Speaker 07

  Oh, no. This is only six years ago.

• 12:42Laci Mosley?

  Yes, honey. This is, remember Temple Run? This is Run Nigga Run.

• 12:46Speaker 07

  Oh, my god.

• 12:47Laci Mosley?

  When I tell you, it goes on forever.

• 12:49Speaker 07

  Oh, and it's still up?

• 12:50Laci Mosley?

  Oh, uh, no, it's not up, but there's a-

• 12:53Speaker 05

  Screenshots?

• 12:53Laci Mosley?

  Twitter is very petty, so someone screenshot her whole thing before she could take it down, and they went to town.

• 12:58Speaker 07

  Was there anything else on the Tumblr, or was it just like her brand of racist humor?

• 13:02Laci Mosley?

  Um, it was some Bible quotes.

• 13:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

• 13:05Laci Mosley?

  Bible quotes!

• 13:06Speaker 07

  But what does this have to do with three, John 3:16, like?

• 13:09Laci Mosley?

  Which, i- if I'm not mistaken, is about, um-

• 13:13Speaker 05

  Like Love My Neighbor or something?

• 13:15Laci Mosley?

  No, it's like God loved his, uh, God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, ooh, I'm going to heaven.

• 13:22Speaker 05

  Don't worry, I'm Googling it.

• 13:23Laci Mosley?

  I'm pretty sure that's it.

• 13:25Speaker 07

  But like, how are you, like?

• 13:27Laci Mosley?

  I was brought up in the church. If I got that wrong, it's bad.

• 13:29Speaker 07

  John 3:16, and they're just using that whole page to bash people.

• 13:32Laci Mosley?

  Is that what it is? That's what it is, right?

• 13:34Speaker 05

  May I?

• 13:35Speaker 07

  I have to return all those albums that I never bought.

• 13:38Speaker 05

  That he gave his only begotten son.

• 13:40Speaker 07

  You know.

• 13:41Speaker 05

  That whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting.

• 13:45Laci Mosley?

  Listen, church is a scam that I participate in. Jesus is like, I look at religion like the casino.

• 13:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, biggest scam.

• 13:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so you gotta just put your money on everything, you know what I mean? Like, if I go to heaven and ain't no Jesus, you know, I was always rocking with the Judaism. You know what I mean? So I believed in God, and I got a little money on Jesus, you know, got a little money in that Krishna.

• 14:03Speaker 05

  I think you gotta put it-

• 14:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you gotta put it everywhere.

• 14:05Speaker 07

  You gotta spread it a little harder, though.

• 14:07Speaker 05

  Investments.

• 14:07Speaker 07

  Buddha, Scientology, Islam.

• 14:10Laci Mosley?

  See, I don't know about the science guy. They too new.

• 14:12Speaker 07

  The science guy.

• 14:14Laci Mosley?

  Muhammad means God, Allah, or not Muhammad, but Allah means God, you know, so I'm in there.

• 14:17Speaker 07

  A little money.

• 14:18Speaker 05

  I agree.

• 14:19Laci Mosley?

  Whatever happens, I'm ready. I play for all sides. I got all jerseys.

• 14:23Speaker 05

  Oh, what a scam.

• 14:24Speaker 07

  I do that too, because I'm a Jew and a-

• 14:27Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. Yes, and you have a Christmas tree. You get a Christmas tree?

• 14:30Speaker 07

  And I get a Christmas tree, and I went to youth group, church stuff.

• 14:33Speaker 05

  I think all the time about how pissed, like, a Christian would be if they, like, did all this stuff, then they died, they went to the pearly gates, and they, like, walked up to the pearly gates, and it's like, Jesus just isn't there, and it's like, Muhammad or whoever. Whoever else, someone you chose wrong. Someone you chose wrong. And it's like, well, shit.

• 14:50Speaker 06

  That sucks.

• 14:51Laci Mosley?

  That's why you gotta choose all. Cause yeah, I mean, God has said something about not worshiping no other God more than him. But God on top.

• 14:57Speaker 05

  There's just one.

• 14:57Laci Mosley?

  And everybody else is like the next rung.

• 15:02Laci Mosley?

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• 16:34Laci Mosley?

  All right, guys, so we got a listener letter. And I said I was gonna call this Roddy Rich. See, we're taking tangents. Y'all don't tweet me about these damn tangents, okay? Thank you so much.

• 16:43Speaker 06

  Oh, do people not like tangents?

• 16:45Laci Mosley?

  Some people don't like tangents.

• 16:46Speaker 06

  They like to stick to there. I'm here for the scams.

• 16:48Laci Mosley?

  But the scam is, is y'all go hear whatever I say. Y'all go hear. So, uh, this comes from Roddy Rich, we're calling him. "Hi scam goddess, please don't use my real name or any real names from this." I love it. I love a beginning of an email that starts like that anonymity. "I want to warn your viewers," oh, viewers, yes, honey, I guess some people could be watching this, "about a scam I nearly fell for, but thanks to your podcast, I was on high alert for scams anyways." Oh, wonderful boo, I'm glad, but you need to participate in my scams, okay? I'ma link you after this. So, attach the screenshot from the email, so he sent some screenshots as well. So it says, "I'm a teacher at a free paying school, "and on our last day of school, I was teaching when I received an email seemingly from the principal."

• 17:32Laci Mosley?

  Um, and then I read through the messages, I'll show those later. So, um, "I was slowly starting to freak out and wonder how I was gonna be able to help this person, "but then they had a typo and five Amazon," then they went one typo and five Amazon vouchers, too far.

• 17:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this sounds sus. "So at Christmas time in schools, you'll often get people getting prizes for hard work, etc., "and his request was to buy something for someone, and it initially sounded plausible, "but as the typos and desperation slowly started to build up, I realized I was a mark." "The scammer has searched our school's principal's name and found our staff email addresses, "made a fake Gmail with the principal's name, and emailed the staff. "If only they had dedicated more line, more time to learning basic English, "I could have been fooled at a $500."

• 18:20Speaker 06

  Oh my gosh.

• 18:21Laci Mosley?

  He said, "I have to say, I admire their dedication, and I believe one day, they will achieve something."

• 18:26Speaker 06

  Oh, that is so nice. I hope the scammers listening. It's so ironic that it's for a school.

• 18:33Speaker 05

  Yeah. And it's a free paying school, which I would love to be someone to understand what that means.

• 18:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 18:38Speaker 05

  Free paying?

• 18:39Speaker 06

  Like, public? Yeah.

• 18:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 18:41Speaker 05

  But you understand that free and paying.

• 18:43Laci Mosley?

  Because like technically...

• 18:45Speaker 05

  Oh, free from paying?

• 18:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so private schools, you pay, but public schools, you don't pay. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, maybe they're in a different country. But wow, I love that they're like, "I admire this person, though, they just need to work a little harder, "get their grammarly up, get on grammarly, bruh, you know what I mean?"

• 19:01Speaker 06

  I think that's because of you, Lacey, because I think what you're doing is you're like shining a light on scams, "but also you love a scammer."

• 19:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 19:07Speaker 06

  So that person's gonna be like upset, but also like loving at the end.

• 19:11Laci Mosley?

  Right, also like, "Thank you for targeting me, I feel honored." So he said, "I wanted to show this to prevent a similar con on the congregation." Um, so, they share some emails, this one email says... So basically, he reached out to them and was like, "Hey, I'm in a meeting now. That's why I'm contacting you through here. Phones are not allowed to be used during the meeting. Um, I don't know when the meeting will be rounding up, and I wanted you to help me out on something very important right away. Can you?"

• 19:40Speaker 07

  During the meeting?

• 19:40Laci Mosley?

  And also, the meeting will be ra- I guess, people say rounding up.

• 19:43Speaker 07

  He means wrapping up.

• 19:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this language, it feels like English is not this person's first language.

• 19:47Speaker 05

  I would agree, and the word "meeting" happened about six times.

• 19:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 19:50Speaker 05

  The meeting, "I'm in a meeting," that's why I can tell.

• 19:52Laci Mosley?

  I feel as though you are not in a meeting.

• 19:53Speaker 07

  There's no meeting.

• 19:54Speaker 05

  There's no meeting happening.

• 19:55Laci Mosley?

  There's a meeting in my bedroom.

• 19:58Speaker 07

  Is that Roddy Ricch?

• 19:59Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 19:59Speaker 07

  No, I know that song.

• 20:01Laci Mosley?

  And listen, you don't need but one person to have a meeting.

• 20:05Speaker 05

  I know, right?

• 20:07Laci Mosley?

  I'm here meeting, you know what I mean? We're having a meeting right now, technically.

• 20:09Speaker 05

  We are meeting.

• 20:10Laci Mosley?

  What is a meeting? So, "The amount I want is a hundred dollars each in five pieces, so that will make a total of five hundred dollars."

• 20:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, this is not right. This is written so weird.

• 20:20Speaker 07

  I love that this person's like, "Thanks to your podcast, I was able to suss out that this is a scam."

• 20:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, bro, you should have known when he said it.

• 20:27Speaker 07

  It's written by a Martian.

• 20:28Laci Mosley?

  A hundred dollars each in five pieces.

• 20:31Speaker 07

  Human money.

• 20:31Laci Mosley?

  Yes, give me some human green tinder, legal tinder.

• 20:34Speaker 05

  It's insane.

• 20:36Laci Mosley?

  The language is, yeah, very bizarre. And in return, and I'll return you the money back to you. And I will return you the money back to you. Good to know where the money's gonna go.

• 20:48Speaker 05

  The principal.

• 20:48Laci Mosley?

  It's gonna be returned to me and also back to me. Just in case, I was wondering. He said, "I need physical cards, which you are going to get from the store. When you get them, just scratch it, take a picture of them, and send it to me with the recipe, okay? The recipe."

• 21:06Speaker 07

  Are they cooking them up? What is it?

• 21:09Laci Mosley?

  Sir.

• 21:10Speaker 07

  This is not a good scam.

• 21:11Speaker 05

  That one sentence sounded like a ransom note, like, "You are going to go to the store and get me five."

• 21:16Laci Mosley?

  Also, like, this is still a question, right? I haven't agreed.

• 21:19Speaker 07

  Have you guys gotten the one, the email that's like, "I know your password"? Have you guys gotten this one?

• 21:24Speaker 05

  No.

• 21:24Speaker 07

  Okay, this-

• 21:25Speaker 06

  This is chilling. I got an email. So I'm not gonna tell you guys the password, but there's a password that I've used.

• 21:30Speaker 05

  No, tell us the password so we know it's real.

• 21:32Speaker 06

  No, I'm not. I'm not. Um, I've used for a really long time. Let's say the password is like Sarah twenty.

• 21:39Speaker 06

  Yeah. So I get an email and it's like in the subject is, I know your password is Sarah twenty. And I was like, oh God, like what? That's so shady and terrible. And it's my password to like a lot of things.

• 21:51Speaker 05

  As everyone's password is.

• 21:52Speaker 06

  Yeah. So I click on it and it's like, it's like, you've been using your password for naughty things, haven't you? We have you on your, uh, your computer's camera doing naughty thing. And I don't like watch porn. I'm like, I don't watch, I'm not a porn person. No judgment. I'm just not. So I immediately was like, this is amazing. Cause it just not real.

• 22:15Speaker 06

  It was like, we have video footage of you like pleasuring yourself in naughty ways on your computer. Cause we've hacked your computer and we know that you use this password for all of your dirty websites or whatever. And it was like, if you don't send us money, we're gonna send everyone you know, all the recordings we have of you doing these naughty things. But it knew my password. So it has hacked into something that I had logged into with my email address and that password. And they send you that password. Every single other person that jerks off on their computer, sent them five hundred dollars or whatever they asked for.

• 22:48Speaker 05

  Oh, come on. We're not, we're not watching porn on our computers anymore. We watch it on our phones.

• 22:53Speaker 06

  I'm on my phone. No, but like, yeah, but it was really like creepy.

• 22:56Laci Mosley?

  Also, the crazy thing about that is, there's two things. So one, this is a very common scam that people will do. But like the kind of like blackmail thing, it's been happening a lot on Tinder. We talk about it on the show here. But also what's funny to me is like, if I were to watch porn on my computer, I'm not sitting in front of the computer directly in front of the camera. Like, like I'm a OnlyFans star. Like you gonna catch me what in the middle of the night with the blanket moving up and down? And me just like, my face is all like.

• 23:23Speaker 06

  And not like my tits are out and I'm pinching my own nipples and like

• 23:26Laci Mosley?

  It's not gonna be nothing salacious.

• 23:27Speaker 06

  My legs are up over the computer.

• 23:29Laci Mosley?

  If anything, it's sad.

• 23:31Speaker 07

  That's what you don't want released.

• 23:35Laci Mosley?

  There's family guy in the background.

• 23:38Speaker 06

  Tired Lacey just momentarily crosses her eyes while she comes and goes back to sleep.

• 23:42Speaker 05

  I don't have any fear about that stuff anymore, because I'm always like, if my nudes get leaked, I'll be like, well, the sexual liberation movement, I'm just like, yeah, we all love sex, we're all doing our thing, like, whatever.

• 23:52Laci Mosley?

  Is it sad that I'm not worried about nudes getting leaked? Not because of that, I don't take nudes because I'm trying to sell these titties monsters ball style.

• 23:59Speaker 06

  Do it.

• 24:00Laci Mosley?

  I'm not gonna get as much as Hallie, but you know, let me get a little something for a titty.

• 24:03Speaker 06

  You'll get a thousand? Is that gonna be all of our scams?

• 24:07Laci Mosley?

  Wow, that's what I'm thinking about.

• 24:08Speaker 06

  I'll give you a thousand right now.

• 24:10Laci Mosley?

  That's low, Laura.

• 24:12Speaker 06

  That's too low.

• 24:12Laci Mosley?

  I want more than that. But yeah, I'm not worried.

• 24:16Speaker 06

  No, you're smart, you save them, you save them for the cash.

• 24:17Laci Mosley?

  But it's not for a moral thing, it's not because I'm like, oh, if you take a nude, that's like, your body is a temple. No, it's like, I'm trying to sell these titties.

• 24:24Speaker 07

  I'll pay you two thousand dollars right now.

• 24:27Speaker 06

  Who is that guy?

• 24:28Laci Mosley?

  Who is that guy?

• 24:29Speaker 06

  How did he get in here?

• 24:29Laci Mosley?

  Who is that guy and how did he get in here?

• 24:31Speaker 07

  Take your safety.

• 24:32Laci Mosley?

  Sir?

• 24:34Laci Mosley?

  Especially if you ask like that, Patty. So, back to this scam. So, this language is a completely insane, Roddy, so that should have been definitely your first tip, but I'm glad you wised up. So, he said, let, so he said, scratch away the recipe. So, this is something that's been happening online where people say, like, if you see the advertisements online to be an online shopper or to work from home, be very cautious because they're normally a scam. Although online, like, because like, people will be like, online secret shoppers, that's not a real job. People have like, internal auditing for that now. There are secret shoppers that go to restaurants and go to places in person and have little cue cards and write people up and they work for corporations, however, this isn't the same thing. But those same scammers were doing this, where they would be like, hey, go buy this Walmart gift card, you're gonna secret shop at Walmart,

• 25:18Laci Mosley?

  but when you buy the gift card, scratch off the bag so that I can get the serial number and take a picture of it and then I can use the gift card online, steal all the money out of it, and then your gift card's worthless. So, that's what this person was trying to get this teacher to do.

• 25:31Speaker 06

  Oh, okay, I didn't understand.

• 25:33Speaker 07

  But they were so assertive, they're like, you're gonna go.

• 25:35Laci Mosley?

  It sounded like a ransom. You're gonna go to the store.

• 25:38Speaker 05

  You're gonna go to the store, you're gonna buy.

• 25:40Speaker 06

  So these people get them, they're like, oh, I'm on a mission.

• 25:42Speaker 07

  Are they excited?

• 25:43Speaker 06

  I don't get it, okay.

• 25:45Laci Mosley?

  So he says, send him the, but he calls it the recipe, which is fascinating. It's a barcode, in a, in a number, a serial number. He said the recipe, maybe he thought he was being tricky there. He was like, maybe if I don't say barcode, he won't know I'm stealing it. I call it the recipe.

• 26:00Speaker 06

  I would have had to have written him back and been like, I want to help you, but I don't know what you're trying to say.

• 26:05Laci Mosley?

  You would have needed more clarification.

• 26:07Speaker 06

  I can't help you unless I know what this recipe is.

• 26:09Laci Mosley?

  Let me know if you can help me with that amount right away. Plus, I will get the cards from you after the meeting. Remember, he was in a meeting.

• 26:16Speaker 05

  Ding ding ding.

• 26:17Laci Mosley?

  But I need the pictures first as an email attachment, okay? So he's pretending to be this person's boss. Right? Cause he hacked, he hacked in, found out the principal's name, and then made a separate Gmail account that isn't the school's account.

• 26:34Speaker 05

  Ooh, that's your first sign.

• 26:35Laci Mosley?

  And then his meeting excuse was because, why wouldn't you email me from yourprincipal@whatever.

• 26:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's like, I don't have access.

• 26:42Laci Mosley?

  He's like, I'm in a meeting right now, I can't use my computer, so I have to email you from my phone. Which don't make no sense either.

• 26:49Speaker 05

  And this gift is so embar, like, we, there's time sensitive, I need to send it right now.

• 26:54Speaker 06

  I know, like, imagine the other people in that meeting. They're like, can you get off your phones?

• 26:58Laci Mosley?

  Also, yeah, you could have just got on your computer if you was gonna be typing this email on your phone.

• 27:02Speaker 06

  I know.

• 27:03Speaker 05

  Lacey says that's important for scams.

• 27:06Laci Mosley?

  Time sensitivity. Um, so, guys, watch out. If anybody's sending you anything, here's the number one warning for a scam. If somebody's requesting money from you, that's already sus, right? The other thing is, is if they're giving you lots of excuses when you haven't asked any questions. Anytime somebody gives you an answer to a question you haven't asked, upfront, something is off.

• 27:26Speaker 06

  Guys do that, when you date, guys, they do that. Right away, they're like, I'm the kind of guy who does all these great things. And you're like, wait a second.

• 27:32Speaker 05

  You know that sounds like, yeah.

• 27:32Speaker 06

  I didn't ask you.

• 27:33Laci Mosley?

  I once sussed out, I, I think, I don't know if I've mentioned on this podcast, I think I have. But like, I sussed out that a guy had like, really, really bad credit and was living with a family and like, was super broke, but was driving a Mercedes. And I literally just sussed it out from just asking like, lots of little tiny questions. That I would piece together to another question that was segue. I was like, oh, that's a really nice car. I've been thinking about getting a new car. Are the payments crazy? And he was like, yeah, they're a little high. I was like, oh, is your credit bad? And he was like, oh, you know, I had like a payday loan. I was like, oh, yeah, those are really tank. And I was like, oh, so where are you living?

• 28:04Laci Mosley?

  Pieced it all together to this man was probably gonna try to ruin my credit and live within me immediately. You know, homosexuals.

• 28:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 28:10Laci Mosley?

  Some people get into relationships because they need a place to live. So he it felt like he was gonna show me the car and then be like, oh, can I stay tonight? And, you know, probably have some really bombed dick. And the next thing I know, I am living with somebody.

• 28:22Speaker 05

  Which like, isn't bad if the dick is bombed? I know if the dick is bombed.

• 28:25Laci Mosley?

  I don't know if bombed dick's worth enough to just be living in my house.

• 28:28Speaker 05

  You're like, I have my, I have my porn on my computer underneath and my Family Guy in the background. I don't need the bombed dick. I'd rather have my money and my porn.

• 28:37Laci Mosley?

  I got everything I need. A blanket, a computer, and Family Guy.

• 28:40Speaker 05

  The blanket, always jerking off under the blanket, Lacey. Of course. I'm never sleeping at your house, girl. I'm like, you want a blanket? No, thank you. I would never give you my jerky blanket. Your squirt blanket.

• 28:53Laci Mosley?

  Robbery.

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• 30:28Laci Mosley?

  All right, guys, and we're back and it's time for my favorite segment, Historic Hood Wings. This is where I will regale the Florida Girls with a very infamous con and we'll get their opinions on this one. This one is very near and dear to my heart. It is from Texas.

• 30:42Speaker 05

  Whoa.

• 30:43Laci Mosley?

  Yes, my man's name is Sandy Jenkins.

• 30:46Speaker 05

  Sounds like a scam already.

• 30:47Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and very Tex-acy, which I truly adore. So Sandy is gonna run a con at a bakery, honey. And it sounds basic, but it gets very crazy. So Sandy moves to Corsicana, right?

• 31:01Speaker 05

  Ooh, Corsicana.

• 31:02Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:03Speaker 05

  I know Corsicana.

• 31:04Laci Mosley?

  Wait, have you been watching Cheer?

• 31:05Speaker 05

  Because everyone's been watching Cheer. What up, Corsicana?

• 31:07Laci Mosley?

  And there's gonna be some Cheer ties in here.

• 31:08Speaker 05

  Ooh, there's a big bakery in Corsicana.

• 31:10Laci Mosley?

  And this is the one.

• 31:11Speaker 05

  The fruitcake.

• 31:12Laci Mosley?

  This is the one.

• 31:14Speaker 05

  Oh, with a fruitcake, okay.

• 31:15Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So Sandy starts working at this bakery. And he works for Bob's dad. His name is Bill McNulty. So Bill McNulty's been in the bakery business, honey, collecting coins for a while. Like, this bakery opened in 1946. They bought it from this German guy. And then they realized that fruitcakes are very special, and this is why. So it has more salts in it than the average cake, and that salt acts as a natural preservative. So fruitcakes practically never go bad. What other food on earth can you like say that about, right?

• 31:49Speaker 07

  Twinkies.

• 31:50Laci Mosley?

  Yep, yum.

• 31:51Speaker 05

  Salt up in there.

• 31:52Laci Mosley?

  So they transformed the original recipe, which they purchased from the German guy who owned the bakery in nineteen forty-six, into this glossy ring that was so strikingly complex that soon everybody in the world wanted one.

• 32:05Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 32:06Laci Mosley?

  So the fruitcake shelf life meant that the bakery could ship anywhere, right? And McWee, who was the other business partner, so there's McNulty, or not McNulty, but McNult and McWee.

• 32:17Speaker 05

  There's some Irish guys.

• 32:19Laci Mosley?

  They're very Irish, McElwee and McNult.

• 32:21Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 32:21Laci Mosley?

  Bill McNult and, God, these names. So they focused on pretty much turning this into a fruitcake mail ordering business. And Bill, who took over the company for his father in nineteen sixty-seven, was a mail order pioneer, investing in computerized systems that would allow him to reach people in a hundred and ninety-six countries.

• 32:43Speaker 05

  What?

• 32:43Laci Mosley?

  So this cake is all over the world, fruitcake in all over the world, okay. So they even had like high-profile clients, so they sent them to like Frank Sinatra, the Queen of Spain, even the president of the Republic of Malawi, I don't know who that is, but apparently they pop it. So Sandy joins their business. After they decided to expand the Colin Street Bakery, opening storefronts in Waco, Lindale, and Greenville, and this is a very important detail because they're expanding around the time. Yeah, they're franchising a little bit. And this is also around the time that Sandy decides that he's going to work for this bakery. And Sandy is like very regula-degula-shmugula, they talk about him in the article, he's like very basic.

• 33:27Laci Mosley?

  Apparently his wife is very fun and outgoing, it's a small town in Coors, I can't, so everybody talks, and we'll get to that. But he's like a boring guy who wears boring clothes and he's very quiet and everybody just, that he was just a dry, little basic, you know, Sandy was basic.

• 33:40Speaker 07

  So he needs something.

• 33:41Laci Mosley?

  He needs something. Right, cuz you don't notice this guy, right? He's just like, bleh.

• 33:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and, and that helps if you're a scammer with a forgettable face. And if you don't have a forgettable face, you at least need to have a forgettable name. Sandy, not that forgettable of a name, but his, his aura, forgettable.

• 33:57Speaker 05

  Forgettable, got it.

• 33:58Laci Mosley?

  Yes, so Sandy joined this bakery. He performed well. He helped the bakery transition from manual accounting system to a computerized one. And by two thousand, he had been promoted to corporate controller. So now he's overseeing the accounting, right? So Scott, his supervisor, was a fellow member of the First Baptist Church, honey, who enjoyed Sandy's company and was pleased with the job that Sandy was doing in Jesus's name, okay? Sandy was never late on running the payroll. He was always kept a taxes current. Uncle Sam was not snooping around. The specific tasks that you gave him, he got done quickly and timely. That's what Scott said. So he was very good at his job, right?

• 34:39Speaker 05

  You have to do that. You have to keep it.

• 34:41Laci Mosley?

  So tight.

• 34:42Speaker 05

  Keep it tight.

• 34:43Laci Mosley?

  So by most accountants, like, he did okay for himself, like, the job. They were raising a daughter. They would contribute to the community. They would make meals for the church. But they weren't considered a part of Corsicanas society. High society.

• 34:58Speaker 05

  Oh, they were, they were kind of like, what's it called, recluse, or?

• 35:01Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so like, the real, real Corsicana is old families, honey, with old cons. Of course, but of course. So they're not a part of this world, right? Kathy was wearing flip flops in the winter. Yeah, they was just very basic. And there was a Corsicana country club that is very old, and I'm assuming very white. And you could only join when a couple left. So I'm assuming that people probably stayed until they, like, died.

• 35:28Speaker 05

  Sure, no space for Sandy and his wife.

• 35:30Laci Mosley?

  So Sandy probably at the funeral was like, ay.

• 35:34Speaker 07

  I can get your spot?

• 35:35Laci Mosley?

  So they did, right? So then we could confirm that, cuz we here, they did the box right there. So, can I get that?

• 35:42Speaker 05

  Two spots open?

• 35:43Laci Mosley?

  How many spots open?

• 35:44Speaker 07

  Oh man.

• 35:45Laci Mosley?

  So, basically when Sandy started being like the corporate controller and got like a higher position, um, he decided that he wanted to move to an office. They allowed him to move into an office. And because before he was kind of on the periphery of this workspace that was just like a bunch of little cubicles in an office, right? So then they gave Sandy an upgrade when he was the controller. And now his office is, he got a fake lithogram of a Picasso in the office. He spent a thousand dollars of the bakery's money on an antique wooden desk.

• 36:15Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 36:16Laci Mosley?

  So this is when I knew my boy Sandy was a scammer.

• 36:18Speaker 07

  Mm-hmm.

• 36:19Laci Mosley?

  Cause you were basic.

• 36:20Speaker 05

  He likes fine things.

• 36:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you like nice shit.

• 36:22Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 36:23Laci Mosley?

  Bought him a thousand dollar desk on corporate dime.

• 36:26Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 36:27Laci Mosley?

  And nobody said anything like, nobody came by your office like, whoa Sandy, that's a nice desk there. Where you get that? Is that in the back? Can I get one from the store?

• 36:34Speaker 05

  Who Sandy? There's nothing to suspect about Sandy. He's just a regular old guy.

• 36:38Speaker 07

  Sandy is. I've never noticed.

• 36:40Speaker 05

  That's a great ask.

• 36:42Laci Mosley?

  So as I've said before, this town is very clicky, like clicky. And someone who reported, uh, who would like was interviewed about this scam said that, "Baby, if you get a hangnail, we know about it before dark." We're mean and gossiping here.

• 36:58Speaker 05

  She just fully, I'm assuming it was a woman, full impression. She fully was like, "We, we suck. We are the worst people in the world."

• 37:06Speaker 07

  That's so funny to call yourself mean. I'm super mean.

• 37:11Speaker 05

  Truly. Course I can. Meanies and fruitcakes. Wow, okay.

• 37:16Laci Mosley?

  I love it. I was like, stand in your truth.

• 37:18Speaker 07

  Be honest.

• 37:19Laci Mosley?

  Stand in your truth. We are mean.

• 37:20Speaker 05

  Mean and gossiping.

• 37:22Laci Mosley?

  And small.

• 37:23Speaker 07

  Mean as the dance long, honey.

• 37:25Speaker 05

  I'm obsessed.

• 37:26Laci Mosley?

  Cause this is where some women said that they had noticed that Kay was never wearing name brand sandals. And she wore them yellow box flip flops. Damn, they were box flip flops?

• 37:36Speaker 05

  What does that mean?

• 37:37Laci Mosley?

  So you know when they had a little chunk on them?

• 37:40Speaker 05

  Uh-huh.

• 37:40Laci Mosley?

  You know the flip flops that's real thick?

• 37:42Speaker 07

  The chunkies, yeah.

• 37:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the flip flop that, that really describes Britney Spears.

• 37:46Speaker 07

  Britney Spears, what she was about to say.

• 37:47Laci Mosley?

  Walking barefoot into a gas station bathroom.

• 37:50Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 37:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, chunkies, got it.

• 37:52Laci Mosley?

  Which I love you, Brittany. That's no shade.

• 37:53Speaker 07

  No, no, no.

• 37:54Laci Mosley?

  That's just, it's pure imagery, sis. Free Brittany.

• 37:58Laci Mosley?

  So they said she never even had a tummy tuck or a boob job or new clothes.

• 38:03Speaker 07

  The shame.

• 38:04Laci Mosley?

  She had on those mall mall clothes.

• 38:07Speaker 05

  She's a mall mall.

• 38:09Laci Mosley?

  What are mall mall clothes?

• 38:11Speaker 05

  Oh, I know what it is. It's a mu mu.

• 38:14Speaker 05

  It's box flip flops. You know what else? I bet she didn't go to the salon and get those acrylics with the French tips.

• 38:22Laci Mosley?

  They do like that in Corsica. They like that in all parts of Texas. My sister is required to have French tip nails for drill team.

• 38:29Speaker 07

  What?

• 38:32Speaker 05

  The girls on cheer had those French tips.

• 38:34Laci Mosley?

  And they always square and real wide.

• 38:36Speaker 05

  Oh, so square.

• 38:37Speaker 07

  I used to love French tips. I used to do my own French tips.

• 38:40Laci Mosley?

  This is my rendition of a French tip right now.

• 38:41Speaker 07

  It's very chic.

• 38:43Laci Mosley?

  I love it. So here's the scam. So Sandy considered himself a moral person. This is the person who bought a thousand dollar desk on the company down. But somehow he sat at his desk in December, one day in two thousand four, and he was tempted to do something wrong. He felt he was working the equivalent of three jobs at the bakery and he was really only compensated for one. How long was he supposed to wait before he could achieve his dreams? What about Sandy?

• 39:12Speaker 05

  Is this from his autobiography?

• 39:14Speaker 07

  It's from his autobiography, What About Sandy by Sandy Jenkins.

• 39:18Laci Mosley?

  What about Sandy? So he decided to dip into the bakery's petty cash. It wasn't much money in the grand scheme of things, but it kept him on edge, gave him a high. Every time someone stepped into his office, he braced himself for the words, Sandy, do you know what happened with this money? But no one ever asked. And soon the petty cash, guess it, wasn't enough.

• 39:43Speaker 05

  Never is.

• 39:44Laci Mosley?

  A few weeks later, on a whim, he drove up to the Dallas dealership and bought a gold Lexus sedan with leather interior.

• 39:49Speaker 07

  Wait, how do you jump so heavily?

• 39:52Speaker 05

  Oh, on petty cash. You guys, he went into the Lexus dealership with a with an envelope full of cash, like from the petty cash. My Lexus, please?

• 40:01Speaker 07

  Oh my god.

• 40:02Laci Mosley?

  Sandy, you went from getting a Snickers bar and a Monster Energy drink on the company dive to a Lexus.

• 40:09Speaker 05

  Gold Lexus.

• 40:11Laci Mosley?

  I stand. So, he wa- it wasn't a huge leap, he says. He traded in his old car as a down payment. So he, but he still couldn't afford the payments for this Lexus, but he had a plan. He had been thinking about those bank spaces on the checkbook software.

• 40:27Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 40:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so give me a picture of Sandy right here, the one in the blue with the couple.

• 40:31Speaker 07

  I love that Will Ferrell's also a monster.

• 40:33Speaker 05

  Is that his wife?

• 40:34Speaker 07

  Sandy is Will.

• 40:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 40:36Speaker 07

  It's a good. It's been a project of his for a while.

• 40:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, there we go.

• 40:39Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 40:40Laci Mosley?

  So this is Sandy.

• 40:41Speaker 07

  I love that everything is ex Fruitcake executive.

• 40:43Laci Mosley?

  And this is his wife. Who, this is his wife Kay. She's gonna come into the mix. So Sandy here, he's wearing designer, honey. Don't be fooled by this basic polo. And also, they're on a PJ.

• 40:53Speaker 05

  They're on a jet.

• 40:54Speaker 07

  At the PJ.

• 40:55Laci Mosley?

  That's a PJ.

• 40:56Speaker 07

  Private jet.

• 40:57Laci Mosley?

  Which I call PJs now because I'm willing myself into that lifestyle.

• 41:00Speaker 07

  I think you have to be, you have to fly one before you can call it a PJ.

• 41:04Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. I think you gotta speak it into existence.

• 41:08Laci Mosley?

  The PJ? PJ's on the PJ?

• 41:09Speaker 05

  Drag her.

• 41:10Laci Mosley?

  PJ's on the PJ.

• 41:11Speaker 07

  Is this him too, sticky fingers and another PJ right here?

• 41:14Laci Mosley?

  Yes. They, so, January 25th, when the credit card payment was, so, basically, before I get ahead of myself, he realizes that in the accounting spaces, they have like these bank spaces in the checkbook software that hadn't been used. So twenty, January 25th, when his credit card payment was due, which is when he put the Lexus on, he typed a $20,000 check made payable to Citicard. The software automatically signed the check, Bob McNutt. Now Bob is one of the owners, right? The software that he has allows him to print out, because he does payroll, right? And Bob signs all the check, but not physically.

• 41:54Speaker 07

  Uh-uh.

• 41:54Speaker 05

  You know it's that stamp signature situation.

• 41:56Laci Mosley?

  Stamp signature. My mom always said, don't be too rich to sign your own checks.

• 42:00Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 42:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So he realized he could use the software to forge the signature so that he could pay off his Citicard. And this is what he started to do. So to cover his tracks, he typed a check the next day payable to a legitimate bakery vendor for the same amount, but then he never mailed that check. Sandy says he doesn't remember where he paid off his new Lexus or the city card. It starts to become a blur. Whoa. So one day Sandy was sure that nobody had noticed the fraudulent check, so he tried it again. And again.

• 42:29Speaker 05

  And again. I knew it was coming.

• 42:31Laci Mosley?

  And we're doing it again. Okay, and each time Sandy would repeat the same scheme with the fraudulent check and then one legitimate check that he never mailed. That way, if the fraudulent check goes through, he could be like, oh no, it's supposed to be this one. What happened? How'd I get into my Citibank? That's crazy. Who put down my routing number and my account number on here?

• 42:54Speaker 07

  It's like the movie Blank Check.

• 42:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 42:56Speaker 07

  He just watched it and was like, I'm gonna use my fruitcake business.

• 43:00Laci Mosley?

  Right, and he wrote a blank check. So before long, my guy Sandy was spending ninety-eight thousand dollars a month on his credit card. And paying it off with stolen money. They remodeled their kitchen. They started throwing fancy dinner parties and champagne brunches. His wife traded in her flip flops for Louboutin.

• 43:20Speaker 07

  Yes, red bottoms.

• 43:22Speaker 05

  No one's making fun of her anymore.

• 43:24Laci Mosley?

  No one's even her anymore.

• 43:25Speaker 07

  Do they get into the...

• 43:27Laci Mosley?

  At work, oh yeah, they gonna get into that country.

• 43:29Speaker 07

  Okay, go, go, go.

• 43:29Laci Mosley?

  At work, Sandy told people who were admiring his fine clothes that he bought his outfits at Walmart. Though nothing could have been further from the truth, he was actually wearing six hundred dollars shirts from Armani and Hermès.

• 43:40Speaker 07

  He's wearing that stuff to work, Sandy.

• 43:42Speaker 05

  Walmart has Armani now, actually, so that checks out.

• 43:46Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 43:46Laci Mosley?

  He's like, yeah, this is Armani Exchange Exchange. This is my exchange rate.

• 43:52Speaker 07

  Exchange, exchange.

• 43:54Laci Mosley?

  He said, he said he always loved shoes, so soon his closets were overflowing with Ferragamo and Gucci. And in two thousand six, he bought five Rolexes for fifty-two thousand dollars, which was roughly his annual salary.

• 44:08Speaker 05

  Absolutely not.

• 44:09Laci Mosley?

  On a trip to Santa Fe, he bought a house for six hundred and fifty-eight thousand dollars.

• 44:14Speaker 07

  In cash?

• 44:15Laci Mosley?

  On his credit card? Are you, can you put a house on a credit card?

• 44:19Speaker 05

  Apparently.

• 44:20Speaker 06

  You can't if you're Sandy Jenkins.

• 44:21Laci Mosley?

  Maybe he started writing some of these checks to himself in cash, Hannah, because I had never been to some, I had never heard of that.

• 44:26Speaker 07

  But this fruitcake company must have been raking in. A lot of glazed holes.

• 44:31Speaker 05

  You heard earlier, a hundred and ninety-six countries and they last forever. They don't ever go bad.

• 44:37Laci Mosley?

  So they're mailing these out like hotcakes. Also, they just expanded their business, like fruitcakes. Yes, claps for that. So they're doing, they're mailing these out like fruitcakes. Remember at the beginning of this, they had just expanded to three locations. So when you're expanding, you lose a little bit of money, right? These are brick and mortar stores, so they're expecting to take a little bit of loss. So he also is coming in a perfect time to start robbing them blind because they don't necessarily, they can't account. Yeah. So the years after writing his fraudulent checks, Sandy took forty-three private flights at a cost of half a million dollars.

• 45:11Speaker 07

  Where's he going? Is he just vacationing? Is he like going for work?

• 45:15Laci Mosley?

  So he, so his friends would see him on the PJ, because you know he was on here looking at him flexing with his wife.

• 45:22Laci Mosley?

  He was up here like, it's funny because they still look very corny, but they're like in nice clothes, but they're like a very unsuspecting corny couple.

• 45:29Speaker 07

  Totally.

• 45:29Laci Mosley?

  So he was telling people that this was his cousin's private jet and that his cousin was lending it to him.

• 45:35Speaker 07

  Oh, my God.

• 45:35Laci Mosley?

  He had no cousin. There was no cousin to be found.

• 45:39Speaker 05

  It's never a cousin.

• 45:39Speaker 07

  Can I ask real quick, did the wife, was she in on this? Like, I'm always interested to know.

• 45:44Speaker 06

  Stressful to be the wife of that.

• 45:49Laci Mosley?

  Why are we throwing these parties? So remember that Kay is a scammer too, only because like, remember she has that outgoing personality that people knew about. She was the life of the party. She was the bubbly one. In the beginning, when he first bought that Lexus with the petty cash, he told her that he had just traded in and that it was a gift from the company he was working with.

• 46:09Speaker 07

  He's scamming his own life.

• 46:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he started scamming her, but she gonna get him.

• 46:14Speaker 07

  He's just drunk on that adrenaline of like her not bringing it up at work.

• 46:18Laci Mosley?

  Right. And it's almost like he was calling attention to himself. It was like, why are you showing up to work like in mink coats and Gucci and Ferragamo? And then you're like, oh, no, no, no, this is just some from the thrift store. Y'all ever been to Corsica at a thrift?

• 46:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, like, why are you?

• 46:30Speaker 06

  Gucci.

• 46:31Laci Mosley?

  They got the 2020 Gucci collection.

• 46:33Speaker 06

  The whole point of buying name brand is so other people will be like, wow, you're a somebody, right? Like, that's why you do it. You spend the money so people go.

• 46:41Laci Mosley?

  It's usually made pretty well.

• 46:42Speaker 06

  The quality's better. Hey, I got it. I got it. Yeah, it's a flex. It's a flex. And, and so you're gonna like buy, it's like buying like a Louis Vuitton bag and then like covering the brand and being like, no one can know. Like, you're defeating the purpose.

• 46:54Laci Mosley?

  But he knows.

• 46:55Speaker 06

  But he knows.

• 46:56Laci Mosley?

  Thousand dollar desk. Just dick hard.

• 46:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, his dick is hard 100% of the time. He's a boner for himself.

• 47:03Speaker 06

  Dick hard, just pressing into his Armani pants.

• 47:04Laci Mosley?

  All day.

• 47:05Speaker 05

  His pants get me off.

• 47:07Laci Mosley?

  So to your point, Patty, she didn't know because of the Mercedes or because of the Lexus, but Sandy gets, or Kay gets, she gets hip pretty quickly. So you might be thinking, are there suspicions, right? Like, surely people had to know that Sandy couldn't be making that much money at the bakery? All of a sudden, poof, they had coins? Like, they were getting Lexus's, BMW's, Mercedes Benz's, and they were replacing them at a dizzying pace. And he was telling people, I'm a car trader. I get new cars, but I'm able to flip them, which makes absolutely no sense because a new, once you drive a car off the lot, it depreciates.

• 47:38Speaker 05

  Immediately.

• 47:40Laci Mosley?

  Immediately.

• 47:41Speaker 05

  He's like, I do this thing. I flip cars. All right?

• 47:44Laci Mosley?

  I buy brand new electric cars.

• 47:46Speaker 06

  I fix them up.

• 47:47Speaker 05

  Fix them up.

• 47:50Speaker 06

  It's a brand new car. Why are you fixing it up?

• 47:51Laci Mosley?

  What are you fixing it up with?

• 47:53Speaker 06

  Under car lights.

• 47:54Speaker 05

  I give it under car lights.

• 47:56Laci Mosley?

  Yes, a Florida Girls reference, privately. Under car lights. So, yeah, exactly. This is, makes no sense. His wife Kay quits her job. So this is how we know when Kay is really in it. She's like, I'm good on employment. I no longer need this. And when a friend asked Kay about a diamond ring that she was wearing that was worth a quarter of a million dollars, she responded that it was her engagement ring. But the friend was like, that's crazy because, did you have that engagement ring when you was catering my daughter's wedding? Shade.

• 48:25Speaker 05

  Shade.

• 48:26Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 48:28Laci Mosley?

  Her friend was like, sis, we was making hot wings for my family.

• 48:32Speaker 06

  When you were picking up my family's dirty napkins?

• 48:34Laci Mosley?

  In the church cafeteria, and they had no, uh, 250K ring.

• 48:37Speaker 06

  Wow. Oh, my god.

• 48:40Laci Mosley?

  Very shady. Another neighbor said, I'm looking at cars that are like a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand dollars, and I'm thinking, damn, he must have won the lottery. Robbery was the furthest thing from anybody's mind.

• 48:50Speaker 06

  Wow, gosh.

• 48:52Laci Mosley?

  So now we're gonna see how he gets caught.

• 48:53Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 48:54Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:54Laci Mosley?

  So, the owners of the bakery went year after year, wondering why the bakery wasn't making no coins. They couldn't figure it out. Was the company expanding too quickly? People seemed to love the new pecan cakes and the twist on the fruitcake that is bite-sized. They say we even making them smaller.

• 49:13Speaker 06

  You should be picking more on this.

• 49:15Laci Mosley?

  He said it doesn't make sense. The owners would tell each other, we must be doing something wrong. They finished the fiscal year and they'd be like, it slipped through our hands again.

• 49:24Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 49:24Laci Mosley?

  And some years, they could blame the economy like anybody else, and other years, they had no excuse. So they started examining their expenses, the labor, the price of ingredients, even inventorying the ingredients. So now they are accounting for every piece of salt and a grain of sugar.

• 49:38Speaker 05

  You know, there's a lot of salt in those fruitcakes.

• 49:40Laci Mosley?

  A lot. They were like, is it the salt? It's killing us.

• 49:44Speaker 05

  Should we sacrifice the fact that this thing will last for 20 years?

• 49:47Speaker 06

  And I wonder is-

• 49:48Speaker 05

  And put less salt in it?

• 49:48Speaker 06

  Is Sandy like, yeah, we gotta figure this out.

• 49:51Speaker 05

  Probably.

• 49:51Speaker 06

  Like Sandy, like a part of this?

• 49:52Speaker 05

  Probably.

• 49:53Speaker 06

  So heady, that's so creepy.

• 49:55Speaker 07

  You guys, we gotta, we gotta-

• 49:57Speaker 05

  And he definitely would.

• 49:59Speaker 06

  Wearing necklaces and rings and, oh, we-

• 50:01Speaker 05

  Five dripping in diamond.

• 50:03Laci Mosley?

  Seven Cartier braces.

• 50:05Speaker 06

  Where's the money going?

• 50:07Laci Mosley?

  Where is it going?

• 50:09Speaker 05

  With a wristful of Cartier.

• 50:10Laci Mosley?

  I don't know.

• 50:11Speaker 05

  It's so weird, guys.

• 50:12Laci Mosley?

  Y'all, check the cherries.

• 50:14Speaker 06

  Oh, my god.

• 50:14Laci Mosley?

  Check somebody in here eating a damn cherry. That's where it's going. So they did this for years, couldn't figure out what's going on. Cause Sandy timed the checks well. He knew when the bakery would stock up on ingredients. He knew when they were spending more on postage. Because they started advertising more, cause like, maybe we just need to get our marketing budget up. So they had this little adverti- advertising thing called Cryer Creek Kitchens, which was like a smaller little company. Um, that they would just do a little advertisement with or whatever. And Darlene ran Cryer Creek Kitchens.

• 50:43Speaker 05

  Oh, I know Darlene did run it, didn't she?

• 50:46Laci Mosley?

  So they said, Dar- Darlene, we gonna have to cut down on Cryer Creek Kitchens, cause we spending way too much money. And she was like, what y'all talking about? I ain't spending that much money. I said, Darlene, you spending twenty-three thousand dollars here on this here postage. And she said, what? That's crazy. I ain't never spent no twenty-three thousand dollars on no damn stamps. And the paperwork showed that she had. So Sandy offered to look into it.

• 51:12Speaker 05

  Look into it dripping.

• 51:13Speaker 06

  Detective Sandy, wearing designer.

• 51:18Laci Mosley?

  I'll figure it out. And of course, when he reported back, everything seemed to be in order.

• 51:24Speaker 05

  And they're like, yep, we're not worried about this anymore.

• 51:27Laci Mosley?

  They let it go. Like, y'all don't know how much stamps cost. This is, see, this is a rich people problem. Y'all been rich for too long. If y'all don't know how much a stamp costs.

• 51:34Speaker 06

  I know when five dollars is missing from my wallet. I'm like, five dollars is missing, babe. Like, where did it go?

• 51:41Speaker 06

  I target my husband immediately. Where's my five dollars?

• 51:47Laci Mosley?

  I saw Jared and Laura arguing in the corner.

• 51:49Speaker 06

  It was about five dollars. It's always about five dollars.

• 51:52Laci Mosley?

  Always about five dollars. So they just didn't know what postage cost. And yeah, they just let it go. Then Sandy turns up. You would think, like, they're starting to audit, right? They're starting to count the cherries and the salt. This is where you chill. Sandy turned it up.

• 52:08Speaker 05

  Now he's drooling with his power. He's like, I can do anything.

• 52:12Laci Mosley?

  Turn my scam on.

• 52:15Speaker 06

  Does Sandy and Kay have kids?

• 52:17Laci Mosley?

  One daughter, but she's like college age.

• 52:20Speaker 06

  He's like living.

• 52:21Laci Mosley?

  Right, I hope she was definitely.

• 52:22Speaker 06

  Living large.

• 52:24Laci Mosley?

  She was at whatever Texas school flexing. She had all the Vera Bradley, honey.

• 52:29Laci Mosley?

  Doing it on the girls.

• 52:30Speaker 05

  Dripping in Vera.

• 52:31Speaker 06

  Dunian Burke.

• 52:35Laci Mosley?

  You could never.

• 52:36Speaker 06

  Long champ.

• 52:38Laci Mosley?

  Yep, she had the long champ. Ugg boot, toe was always in a Ugg boot.

• 52:44Speaker 06

  You'll never catch my toes out of an Ugg boot.

• 52:48Speaker 05

  Ugg slippers, Ugg boots.

• 52:49Laci Mosley?

  Ugg socks, honey, down to the socks.

• 52:54Laci Mosley?

  That's what I'm talking about.

• 52:57Laci Mosley?

  So he went hog wild with spending, is what they said. So he bought a seven thousand dollar cellphone.

• 53:04Speaker 06

  Wait, the phone.

• 53:05Speaker 05

  This brings us back to Apple.

• 53:06Speaker 06

  Ah, the scam.

• 53:08Laci Mosley?

  Apple, are y'all seven seven seven thousand dollars?

• 53:14Laci Mosley?

  He had a forty thousand dollar horse hair mattress. I don't even know what a horse hair mattress is.

• 53:21Laci Mosley?

  It keeps out mites.

• 53:22Speaker 06

  But horse hair seems like it'd attract mites.

• 53:27Laci Mosley?

  He had a fifty thousand dollars Steinway.

• 53:32Speaker 05

  Does he play?

• 53:33Laci Mosley?

  Which he does play.

• 53:35Speaker 06

  So talented.

• 53:36Laci Mosley?

  And he he even inquired about investing in a funeral home, which that's big business. People always die. That's what you gotta know. Never gonna run out of clients.

• 53:43Speaker 06

  That's smart.

• 53:44Laci Mosley?

  So he eventually indulged in the hobby of the truly wealthy philanthropy. And you know where he bought a table? The Navarro College fundraiser. Cheer.

• 53:56Speaker 05

  Cheer Navarro.

• 53:57Laci Mosley?

  So if you're watching Cheer Navarro on Netflix, honey, Sandy bought at least a couple of them uniforms. One or two of them mats.

• 54:04Speaker 06

  I hope he did more than that. Stolen ass money.

• 54:08Speaker 05

  Now I'm now on his side. He's helping the cheerleaders.

• 54:10Laci Mosley?

  He helps the cheerleaders.

• 54:11Speaker 06

  I've been on, weirdly, I've been on Kay's side since moment one. The moment you were like, she got made fun of for being poor, I'm like, I'm on her side. I want her to take down this whole town.

• 54:20Speaker 05

  I know.

• 54:20Laci Mosley?

  And she did for a moment. So here's where the issue comes into play. The company hires a new accountant.

• 54:30Speaker 06

  Why? They fired him?

• 54:31Laci Mosley?

  No, now this is somebody under my man Sandy. But this is fresh ass. And you know what? Accounting is a hater profession. Your whole job, just crunching little numbers and being petty.

• 54:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 54:43Laci Mosley?

  You know what I mean? So they get, they get horny for something.

• 54:46Speaker 05

  Where'd you get that penny from?

• 54:46Laci Mosley?

  Yes, right, exactly. Every penny must be accounted for. Serial number and all. So, he's a new hiring accountant, got fresh eyes, and he started to look at things. And he's saying, hmm, and he's scratching his chin.

• 55:00Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 55:01Laci Mosley?

  He's rubbing his temples.

• 55:02Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 55:02Laci Mosley?

  Things aren't adding up. Sandy, so.

• 55:05Speaker 06

  I can't believe it took him longer than fourteen minutes. Took him longer than fourteen minutes to figure this out. He's not a good accountant.

• 55:13Laci Mosley?

  He finds a check made out to Capital One. And the accountant, who is a woman, says that she know the bank, or the bakery did not have any accounts or credit cards with Capital One. Not married.

• 55:26Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 55:27Laci Mosley?

  So, she pulls up to Sandy's office, sits down at his thousand dollar desk, and she says, Sandy, there's a discrepancy with this check. Can you help me understand this?

• 55:37Speaker 06

  Sandy's getting like a six hand massage.

• 55:40Speaker 05

  His dick is still hard though under the desk.

• 55:42Laci Mosley?

  Can I help you?

• 55:43Speaker 06

  Can I help you?

• 55:44Speaker 05

  There's so many people under his desk just working.

• 55:47Laci Mosley?

  Sandy tries to remain calm. He's like, I'll fix it, he told her, hoping his panic wasn't showing, but honey, the panic was showing. And my girl, the accountant, she knew.

• 55:56Speaker 05

  She sniffed it.

• 55:57Laci Mosley?

  Miss Symmetric, this piqued her interest. That's her last name, Symmetric, which sounds like an account. Like, that means you were born to account. You came out the womb and you were like, how much did this birth cost?

• 56:08Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 56:09Speaker 05

  I need some metrics on this.

• 56:11Laci Mosley?

  I need some metrics on this birth.

• 56:13Speaker 05

  Symmetric, sorry.

• 56:16Laci Mosley?

  So, she didn't want to flag the check just yet because Scott and the other owner spent a lot of time with the Jenkins. You know what I mean? That's they, they homies.

• 56:25Speaker 05

  Now they're friends.

• 56:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so she was like not trying to blow up the spot, and she's new to the job. She just got there, so she ain't trying to lose her job.

• 56:31Speaker 06

  She's in a tough spot, yeah.

• 56:32Laci Mosley?

  Yes, exactly, and she's a woman, and you know when you a woman, you gotta walk a tight line.

• 56:35Speaker 06

  You gotta keep your mouth shut. Keep your mouth shut when you're a woman.

• 56:39Laci Mosley?

  So.

• 56:40Speaker 05

  You gotta keep it shut.

• 56:41Speaker 06

  You shut it up.

• 56:43Laci Mosley?

  So she goes back and she quickly finds 11 discrepancies around $400,000.

• 56:47Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 56:48Speaker 05

  Quickly, quickly, 14 minutes later.

• 56:50Speaker 06

  14 minutes later.

• 56:52Laci Mosley?

  She clicked on one link and was like, oh.

• 56:54Speaker 06

  Oh, you're being robbed.

• 56:55Laci Mosley?

  Discrepancies.

• 56:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 56:57Laci Mosley?

  She's like, galore.

• 56:58Speaker 06

  You're being very robbed.

• 57:00Laci Mosley?

  Robbery? Fraud. She's just scrolling like robbery, fraud, chicanery.

• 57:07Speaker 05

  She's going to the inventory, she's like cherries, sugar, salt, robbery, fraud.

• 57:12Speaker 06

  Oh, I found it.

• 57:12Laci Mosley?

  I found it.

• 57:13Speaker 05

  Oh, postage, fraud.

• 57:15Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 57:16Laci Mosley?

  So.

• 57:17Speaker 06

  Oh, man.

• 57:18Laci Mosley?

  Then she sends an email and she says, it looks like Sandy Jenkins has been embezzling money.

• 57:25Speaker 06

  Oh, she sends an email.

• 57:26Laci Mosley?

  An email.

• 57:27Speaker 06

  I love it. I love that she's like brave, but she's not that brave.

• 57:30Laci Mosley?

  No urgency. She's like.

• 57:33Speaker 05

  The subtext is like, when you get a chance.

• 57:35Speaker 06

  Yeah. I'm in a meeting right now and I have to send this.

• 57:38Laci Mosley?

  She's like, hey, guys, comma, hope you had a great weekend.

• 57:42Speaker 06

  Oh, my god.

• 57:43Laci Mosley?

  It looks like Sandy hasn't been embezzling money. Bob responds to the email and he says, well, that explains a lot.

• 57:51Speaker 06

  Poor boy.

• 57:52Speaker 05

  He's like, we've been losing money since Sandy came into this business.

• 57:56Speaker 06

  Oh, McNutt.

• 57:56Laci Mosley?

  And he's constantly engaging. We pay him $50,000 a year. So Sandy arrives at work and Scott asks him to come into the executive's office and shows him copies of the voided checks. And he says, tell us what these are. And Sandy pretended for a moment that he had done nothing wrong. He looks over the checks, he shrugs and says, well, I don't know. Which truly fueled Scott's anger, prompting him to ask Sandy pointedly, did you write these checks? And Sandy says, I only write checks for the bakery.

• 58:30Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 58:31Speaker 05

  Is he lying?

• 58:33Laci Mosley?

  Technically.

• 58:34Speaker 06

  So what happens? Does he get their money?

• 58:36Speaker 05

  I'm half expecting the guy to go, okay Sandy, we trust you. Go ahead.

• 58:40Speaker 06

  I know.

• 58:40Speaker 05

  It must be a cherry.

• 58:41Speaker 06

  It's the cherries.

• 58:43Laci Mosley?

  Right, 20 years later, when Sandy dies.

• 58:46Speaker 05

  No. Do you mind flipping my car? I hear you do car flips.

• 58:50Laci Mosley?

  So they fire Sandy.

• 58:54Laci Mosley?

  And Sandy says that he was relieved to get fired because he just wanted to get out of there. The tensions was high.

• 58:58Speaker 06

  Oh, my God. He's blaming that.

• 59:00Speaker 05

  Poor Sandy.

• 59:01Speaker 06

  The work environment was so stressful.

• 59:03Speaker 07

  The conditions.

• 59:05Laci Mosley?

  So Sandy has stolen from the bakery, an amount totaling $114,000 in cash, and $16,649,786.91 in checks.

• 59:25Speaker 06

  How and over how long a period of time?

• 59:27Speaker 07

  That many fruitcakes, that's...

• 59:28Speaker 06

  $16 million. I'm floored. I'm floored.

• 59:33Laci Mosley?

  I'm so proud of Sandy. 16 mil, bruh, if you had just stolen maybe like 2 mil, you probably would have been Gucci.

• 59:40Speaker 06

  I know.

• 59:41Laci Mosley?

  60, you stole all their profits.

• 59:43Speaker 06

  Drunk with it. It got to the point where the company was like, we are no longer making profits. And he was like, I'm still gonna keep stealing.

• 59:51Laci Mosley?

  He's like, damn, we ain't making no...

• 59:52Speaker 05

  I'm just looking up real quick how much a fruitcake costs from this place.

• 59:55Speaker 07

  It's gotta be like $10.

• 59:57Speaker 06

  Amazing.

• 59:59Laci Mosley?

  So now was his time to move. He raced home, grabbed two grocery bags from the kitchen, and ran from room to room tossing handfuls of valuables inside. Uh, watches, jewelry, gold bars.

• 1:00:12Speaker 06

  So...

• 1:00:12Laci Mosley?

  He's a cartoon.

• 1:00:13Speaker 07

  He's a cartoon duck. Oh, my God.

• 1:00:17Laci Mosley?

  Making sure to check the air vents where he had stashed some of the jewels. Then he and Kay got in one of their cars and they drove to Austin where their daughter was living, and stored the bags in safe before taking off to Santa Fe to regroup. What do criminals do? Where do they hide their money? Should he bury it somewhere? Put it in an offshore account? Around the time, this time, the FBI has been tipped off. I, I hope they, they email the FBI and we're like, hey.

• 1:00:43Speaker 05

  When you get a chance.

• 1:00:43Laci Mosley?

  When you get a chance. We have been embasled from.

• 1:00:47Speaker 06

  These people are so casual, so southern casual.

• 1:00:50Laci Mosley?

  Too casual about sixteen mil.

• 1:00:52Speaker 06

  I've been robbed for sixteen million dollars. Take your time.

• 1:00:57Laci Mosley?

  Also, as gun happy as Texans are, I cannot believe that this just ended well.

• 1:01:01Speaker 05

  All right, we're gonna need you to clean out your desk, Sandy.

• 1:01:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:01:04Speaker 05

  I know.

• 1:01:04Speaker 06

  I just, just fired.

• 1:01:05Laci Mosley?

  Leave your bags and your keys.

• 1:01:07Speaker 06

  We will give you two weeks' notice, because we're not monsters.

• 1:01:10Speaker 05

  And severance.

• 1:01:16Laci Mosley?

  Sandy files for unemployment.

• 1:01:18Speaker 05

  He gets it.

• 1:01:18Laci Mosley?

  He gets it. So, the FBI team was searching the house in Corsica, and noticed that his, they were on the move to Austin. So, they have all these, these bags, right? Of gold and, and gold bars and jewelry. And they put them, he drives down to Lady Bird Lake, the edge of downtown. And with bag in hand, he walks to a secluded bend, hoping he wouldn't be interrupted by some stroller pushing power walking busybody. And he begins scattering treasures behind trees, bushes, and rocks. One might say he hit them like eggs at Easter.

• 1:01:55Speaker 06

  Wow. This is like Mad Man, Mad Man World.

• 1:01:58Laci Mosley?

  It made him cringe to think about a dog peeing on his twenty-five thousand dollar Patek Philippe Aquanote watch.

• 1:02:04Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 1:02:05Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 1:02:06Speaker 06

  This man is insane.

• 1:02:07Laci Mosley?

  His twenty-two thousand dollar Ulysses Norden watch, or any of the other watches or gold bars he had grabbed on his way out the door. When he ran out of hiding places, he tossed the rest in the lake.

• 1:02:18Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 1:02:20Speaker 05

  Now he's unhinged. Now he's throwing money away?

• 1:02:22Speaker 06

  I'm gonna go find it.

• 1:02:23Laci Mosley?

  You couldn't dig a hole in your yard or something? You got, you threw it, everything in the lake?

• 1:02:27Speaker 06

  I know. I wonder if it's still in the lake?

• 1:02:29Laci Mosley?

  Is it? We need to go diving.

• 1:02:30Speaker 05

  I'm so mad at him.

• 1:02:31Speaker 06

  Don't we all go diving this weekend?

• 1:02:32Speaker 05

  He worked so hard for that money, and honestly, he just threw it in a lake?

• 1:02:35Laci Mosley?

  He stole so hard for that money.

• 1:02:37Speaker 06

  He was panicked.

• 1:02:38Laci Mosley?

  So not long after this, the officers. An officer from the University of Texas stumbled upon a quarter million dollars in jewelry and gold bars.

• 1:02:47Speaker 05

  The gold bars are getting me every time.

• 1:02:49Speaker 06

  I know.

• 1:02:50Laci Mosley?

  It's very funny. It's very cartoonish, as Laura said. So in the weeks that followed, this is, they still haven't been like charged yet. So he, so Sandy on August 12th was indicted by the FBI on counts of mail fraud, money laundering, and other related offenses he perpetrated along the way. In the same weeks that followed, Kay was telling people around town that she knew nothing about Sandy's scheme. And she was as surprised as anybody else. She said, I can, I can just live my life and let him take the rap.

• 1:03:25Speaker 06

  Oh, my God. So she, so she was expected them to believe that she thought he was living this lifestyle with their salary.

• 1:03:31Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:03:31Speaker 06

  That she was like, I had no idea. I thought he got a huge raise.

• 1:03:34Laci Mosley?

  I thought he got a raise of sixteen million dollars.

• 1:03:38Speaker 05

  From fifty thousand.

• 1:03:39Laci Mosley?

  From fifty thousand.

• 1:03:40Speaker 05

  And they paid him in gold bars. It was weird.

• 1:03:43Laci Mosley?

  So I was like, okay. So she said she, she didn't realize that her reputation had lost its sheen. And one day in March 2014, so now we're in 2014 when all of this is falling apart. Right when she was indicted on similar charges to Sandy, she had called a few million, a few members of Cotillion in tears, asking if they would be okay with her attending an upcoming book club event.

• 1:04:04Speaker 06

  Oh, my God. These poor people are insane.

• 1:04:07Laci Mosley?

  Hey, y'all, it's me, Kay. Uh, we, can I come down to the book club event this week?

• 1:04:12Speaker 06

  Oh, my God.

• 1:04:12Laci Mosley?

  We're reading Fifty Shades, right? I read all of it.

• 1:04:15Speaker 06

  No, but these people, they're self-proclaimed mean.

• 1:04:18Laci Mosley?

  And they're like, no.

• 1:04:19Speaker 06

  So they're like, no.

• 1:04:20Laci Mosley?

  You might have money now. You might have got rid of those square flops, but you're not welcome here.

• 1:04:26Speaker 06

  We know that that's for Kay cash.

• 1:04:30Laci Mosley?

  For Kay cash, yes. So this all falls apart. Um, she ends up getting five years of probation.

• 1:04:39Laci Mosley?

  And Sandy, my boy, he gets ten years of jail.

• 1:04:42Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:04:45Laci Mosley?

  So this was in twenty fourteen, so yes.

• 1:04:48Speaker 05

  Four more years?

• 1:04:49Laci Mosley?

  But also, like, I never like how rich people crimes always equate to the same as, like, murder. Also in Texas, Amber Gargyle, I say this all the time, went down for ten years for shooting somebody in their own home. And this man got ten years for robbing a bakery.

• 1:05:06Laci Mosley?

  Like, I think he should have been, so they had an auction, fun fact, and I'll just tell you some of the things that were in the auction of.

• 1:05:14Speaker 07

  So the bakery had an auction so they could get some of their money back?

• 1:05:17Laci Mosley?

  So, yeah.

• 1:05:18Speaker 07

  So they got all the assets and then they could sell them?

• 1:05:20Speaker 05

  They owned them.

• 1:05:21Laci Mosley?

  So they had a state of sale, state sale. Um, this was March twenty seventh, twenty fourteen, and everyone in the town circle, gather around. Now, here's my thing, like, don't just get people from Coeur d'Alene, like, you should really invite rich people. Yeah, what you doing, state sale in the town square, the fuck? So, there was a fourteen thousand dollar gold Dunhill lighter, multiple, actually. A Cartier silver cigarette case, an Atmos clock, boxes of crystal silver, designer handbags, wallets, luggage, and briefcases, all by Louis Vuitton, Marc Jacobs and Balenciaga, along with a frighteningly large collection of Hummel figurines.

• 1:06:00Speaker 07

  Oh, god.

• 1:06:01Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:06:02Speaker 07

  What are those? Those are like little figurines of like people like shoveling, no, they're like little gross. Little like precious moments type thing? Precious moments.

• 1:06:10Laci Mosley?

  What the hell?

• 1:06:14Speaker 05

  He's like, okay, I got you something special.

• 1:06:16Laci Mosley?

  They didn't even know what to spend this fucking money on.

• 1:06:19Speaker 07

  Sorry, if people have Hummel figures out there, I didn't mean to call them gross.

• 1:06:21Speaker 05

  Well, just so you know, I just looked up Hummel figurines, and there's a Hummel on eBay for seven thousand dollars.

• 1:06:29Speaker 07

  So they're expensive?

• 1:06:30Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:06:31Laci Mosley?

  That's insane.

• 1:06:32Speaker 06

  They're glass figurines.

• 1:06:33Speaker 05

  But then there's another one for like fifteen.

• 1:06:34Laci Mosley?

  But also, it just shows me that Sandy, you could have chilled on how much you were stealing. You didn't even know what to spend this fucking money on.

• 1:06:40Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:06:41Speaker 05

  He became obsessed.

• 1:06:42Laci Mosley?

  Several fourteen thousand dollar lighters.

• 1:06:44Speaker 06

  I know, I know. It's a sickness. It's a sickness. It's so sad.

• 1:06:47Speaker 07

  Truly a sickness.

• 1:06:48Speaker 06

  It's terrible.

• 1:06:49Speaker 07

  Just real quick, the guy I went to prom with, his dad was one of these guys. And we had like a lavish prom and went to all this stuff. And then years later, we found out, he was like on CNBC, like Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, like showing all of his cars and houses and stuff. And he had this whole top building of this downtown building in Indianapolis. And it all crumbled. And people were like, huh? My mom went to college with him and he was just Ponzi scheme, like had it going. Yeah.

• 1:07:20Speaker 06

  Cause it is, isn't it? It's like a thing when you-

• 1:07:22Speaker 07

  Truly a mental-

• 1:07:23Speaker 06

  Easy, like when you get the money easily, it easy come, easy go type thing, right?

• 1:07:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:27Speaker 06

  There's like science behind that.

• 1:07:29Laci Mosley?

  And also, there's just the addiction of continuing this scam.

• 1:07:33Speaker 05

  You get away with it.

• 1:07:34Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, I think he got a little high after the postage and he was like, they can't ever catch me.

• 1:07:39Speaker 06

  I'm untouchable, yeah.

• 1:07:40Speaker 07

  Such a high, yeah.

• 1:07:41Laci Mosley?

  Alright guys, we've reached the end of the show. This was so, so fun.

• 1:07:44Speaker 05

  Thanks for having us.

• 1:07:45Laci Mosley?

  Thank you for doing it.

• 1:07:46Speaker 05

  We've learned so much.

• 1:07:48Laci Mosley?

  So around the table again, Patty, where can people find, where do you want to be found? That's what I ask.

• 1:07:53Speaker 07

  Ooh, on my computer video screen. No. I am on Insta and Twitter at Patriskett, like a Triscuit with a paw in front of it. Patriskett. And at The Groundlings.

• 1:08:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:07Speaker 07

  Um, show's opening soon, Friday, Saturday nights. It's called Bar Fight. And then Florida Girl.

• 1:08:15Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:08:17Speaker 06

  On Pop TV.

• 1:08:18Laci Mosley?

  How about you, Melanie?

• 1:08:19Speaker 05

  Um, my name's Melanie Field. I can be found on Instagram at Melanie underscore underscore Field. And yeah, check out you on Netflix if you haven't seen it. Second season just came out. It's still on. It's great. And Florida Girl.

• 1:08:31Speaker 06

  Pop TV.

• 1:08:32Laci Mosley?

  Pop TV. And you, Ms. Laura Chin?

• 1:08:35Speaker 06

  Um, hi. I'm on Instagram at Laura Chin with four N's.

• 1:08:40Laci Mosley?

  Chin in the n-.

• 1:08:40Speaker 06

  Twist. What else? Oh, I'm at UCB. I do a show called Outside Dog on Friday nights at 10:30. Come watch. Lacey and I are on Ass Cat together now. We just started that, so that's gonna be fun. And Florida Girl, Pop TV.

• 1:08:55Laci Mosley?

  Pop TV.

• 1:08:58Laci Mosley?

  And guys, as always, you can email us your scams and retired scams at [email protected]. And you can find us at scamgoddispod on Instagram and on Twitter. And you can find me at D I P A L A C I, Diva Lacey on all platforms. All right, congregation, stay Schemin.

• 1:09:17Laci Mosley?

  Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Cargbo, engineered by Marina Faiz, and researched by Kalen Brandt. Stay scheming.

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