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Conan chats with theme park designer Margaret about the Haw Par Villa in Singapore and what kind of themed ride would best represent Conan, Sona, and Matt. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply

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• 1:54Speaker 02

  Hi, Margaret. Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan.

• 1:57Conan O'Brien?

  Hi, Margaret.

• 1:57Speaker 03

  Wow, hi. I can't believe that the day is finally here.

• 2:02Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, I've been thinking about this too. The day is finally here. What day? What are you talking about? Oh, the day when we talk.

• 2:09Speaker 03

  The day, yes.

• 2:10Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 2:11Speaker 03

  The day that I get to meet all of you. Hello, Conan, Matt, Sona. Hi. The show chums.

• 2:16Conan O'Brien?

  Good to see you. How are you?

• 2:18Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm so excited.

• 2:19Conan O'Brien?

  Here's what I know about you. Your name is Margaret. And, um, other than that, I don't know much. Tell us your story, Margaret. Who are you? What's your deal? What's happening?

• 2:28Speaker 03

  Oh, gosh. Um, well, I, uh, I, I've been a fan of yours for a long time. I've watched all the, my, and my gateway drug to Conan was watching your remotes.

• 2:39Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:40Speaker 03

  Um, so back in the day when you were in New York and, um, and I, you know, for me, I'm not so much in, interested in the celebrities so much as when you interact with your staff. I think that's the most hilarious. Um, I think that you bring out the funny in everyone.

• 2:55Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, that's so nice of you to say. And that's, uh, I think that's been, those are some of my favorite moments, too. Celebrities just get in the way. Let's face it.

• 3:02Speaker 03

  They, they do. They do. I'm like, come on, I want to go back to Matt and Sona and, you know, Dr. Arroyo and all, everyone else, you know, Jordan Shlansky and Eduardo.

• 3:12Conan O'Brien?

  That's where we part companies with Jordan Shlansky. But, uh, I see kind of what you're saying. Um, and what do you do? What's, uh, what do you do for a living?

• 3:21Speaker 03

  Well, I'm a designer of theme parks and museums and experiences. So, um, I, uh, help to tell the stories in built places and built environments. And one of the big projects that I worked on was the Star Wars themed land.

• 3:37Conan O'Brien?

  Margaret.

• 3:38Speaker 03

  Which, uh, opened years ago. And yes, I know.

• 3:41Conan O'Brien?

  You know what? Matt Gourley's eyes just turned into those, uh...

• 3:45Speaker 02

  Margaret, stop flirting with me.

• 3:48Conan O'Brien?

  There are cherries spinning by. It's like a slot machine.

• 3:54Conan O'Brien?

  Bing bong, bing bong, bing bong. And now coins are coming out his mouth. You just, uh, hit his mental jackpot.

• 4:00Speaker 03

  What was that?

• 4:01Speaker 02

  I was, uh, when Bugs Bunny drinks alcohol, he goes.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  You know, you know.

• 4:06Conan O'Brien?

  I know it.

• 4:06Speaker 01

  That was obscure.

• 4:07Conan O'Brien?

  No, I knew exactly what he was talking about. You're just uneducated and, and young. Yeah. So, um, so Margaret, this is amazing. You design theme parks. That sounds like a dream job that would be impossible to have. But you have it.

• 4:24Speaker 03

  Oh, no, please. I, I mean, it's, it is a dream job. And I, you know, when I first, uh, went into a Disney theme park was when I was seven years old. I went to the Tokyo Disneyland. So I don't speak Japanese, but when I went through it, it just blew my mind. I was like, who does this? Like, who actually creates these stories that I couldn't walk into and these worlds that I go into? Right? So going into something like Haunted Mansion for the first time and Pirates and like, you know, it's a small world, like all of these things. It just blew my little mind up. And so it was kind of my dream, my life journey, you know, uh, to work in theme parks and build other experiences too, like museums.

• 5:09Speaker 03

  I, I worked in Airbnb. I know you did an Airbnb experience, all of these things, right? So this is really, uh, it, it truly is a dream job.

• 5:17Conan O'Brien?

  I have to, Margaret, uh, and this is a, you know, a moral must. This is a necessity. I must give the floor over to Mr. Matt Gourley. Cause Matt spent years, several years working at a Disney theme park. Is that right?

• 5:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I worked there.

• 5:34Conan O'Brien?

  What, what, what, come on, this is a proud part of your life.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  I didn't realize that. Why are you so ashamed?

• 5:38Speaker 02

  I'm not ashamed. It's just, uh, I just lost a little bit of myself there.

• 5:43Conan O'Brien?

  That's not true. What are you talking about?

• 5:45Speaker 01

  Was it when you were a trash can?

• 5:46Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 5:47Conan O'Brien?

  Well, let him, let him tell the story.

• 5:49Speaker 02

  I did plenty of other embarrassing things there.

• 5:51Conan O'Brien?

  But you were, you were the voice? Were you in the, there's a talking trash can at Disneyland.

• 5:56Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:56Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, and you were a talking trash can? Does that mean you're in the receptacle or are you? I honestly don't know. I'm asking you real questions.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  The way it works is it looks like a typical metal trash can with the push flap, you know? But there's only half a trash can in it and below the lower half is a like fully automated robot. So I'm hidden in the crowd just wearing street clothes and I have a bag over my shoulder. I just look like a creep. You know, and my hand's in the bag and I can remote control the trash can and I have a secret microphone in my hand.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Hands in the bag.

• 6:28Speaker 02

  I know. My one hand's up at my mouth and one hand's in the bag.

• 6:31Conan O'Brien?

  So if I see this guy, if I see this guy at a bus stop, he's either a pervert

• 6:36Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 6:36Conan O'Brien?

  or he's operating a Disney trash can.

• 6:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:41Conan O'Brien?

  Sir, you're either touching yourself or delighting millions with your banter. I just don't know which, or both. So did your trash can have a personality?

• 6:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, his name was Push the Talking Trash Can. But there was a certain amount of mandated personality, but I wouldn't usually adhere to that. So I was usually-

• 7:01Conan O'Brien?

  You're a rebel.

• 7:01Speaker 02

  I was in this case. I would bump the other trash cans and say like, Sheila, Sheila, why did you divorce me? And things like that. And this was when the management wasn't around and stuff.

• 7:11Conan O'Brien?

  Did they, did you ever get a talking to because you were going off script?

• 7:14Speaker 02

  And I would try to be very savvy about when the managers were there. Or I would chase the kids for their churros. Give me your churro, give me your churro and that kind of thing.

• 7:21Conan O'Brien?

  Right.

• 7:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's just because you get bored of the same old stick.

• 7:24Conan O'Brien?

  What I would do is have the trash can run around and scream, kill me, kill me. I cannot die. I cannot die.

• 7:31Speaker 02

  I got close to that.

• 7:33Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, that's what I would do.

• 7:34Speaker 02

  And the kids would kick it all the time. It was like kind of demoralizing too.

• 7:38Conan O'Brien?

  Could you talk back to the kids?

• 7:39Speaker 02

  Yes, I would say, why are you, parents, why are you letting your children kick me? Why are you doing this?

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Oh snap.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  And some of them would stop it and some would just laugh.

• 7:47Conan O'Brien?

  Right.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  Did you only play the, a trash can or did you play?

• 7:51Speaker 02

  I did so many different things.

• 7:53Conan O'Brien?

  You're a trash can saying, why are you not treating me with respect?

• 7:56Speaker 01

  Margaret designed Star Wars and you're talking about playing a trash can.

• 8:01Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, but listen.

• 8:02Speaker 01

  I'm sorry, I don't. It's like we're equating the two.

• 8:05Conan O'Brien?

  Star Wars is another one of, Star Wars is another one of your loves.

• 8:09Speaker 02

  Sure, yeah.

• 8:10Conan O'Brien?

  Um, and so, Margaret, uh, I'm curious. First of all, you've been to this Star Wars experience, haven't you?

• 8:16Speaker 02

  Many times, yeah, yeah.

• 8:17Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:19Conan O'Brien?

  And you've been to, as well?

• 8:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:20Conan O'Brien?

  Okay. Uh, and, um, I didn't get around to it, I go to only presidential museums.

• 8:25Speaker 03

  Well, we have, we have to change that, Conan. I know you hate theme parks, and I know you have a thing against Disney, and I know that you're not a Star Wars fan.

• 8:33Conan O'Brien?

  Wait a minute, did you say I have a thing against Disney?

• 8:35Speaker 01

  What's your beef?

• 8:36Conan O'Brien?

  No, I just love, uh, there's a talking trash can at the Harry Truman Museum in Missouri, and I love going there and having conversations. He's kinda salty.

• 8:46Speaker 02

  I know that guy.

• 8:46Conan O'Brien?

  And he's like, "I'm from the Show Me State," you know, and, "I had to fire MacArthur." And I'm like, "Take it easy, trash can." Um, so, I just have my other interests, but no, I'm not, what are you, spreading this rumor that I'm anti-Disney? I embrace all corporations.

• 9:00Speaker 03

  I think you need to go to more theme parks, because it really, you, you know, you're, like me, you're a, a, a grown-up child, right? So, going to theme parks releases that, all those inhibitions, so you can be whoever you wanna be.

• 9:19Conan O'Brien?

  You understand, I act that way at The Gap.

• 9:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:21Conan O'Brien?

  I go, I'm, I'm, my inhibitions are released, you know. I went to the eye doctor with Sona, and I behaved like a total fool.

• 9:29Speaker 01

  That's very true.

• 9:30Conan O'Brien?

  And put on a one-man show for everybody.

• 9:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:32Conan O'Brien?

  So, I don't need a lot of help getting me into that space.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  But I do love amusement parks.

• 9:36Conan O'Brien?

  You do?

• 9:36Speaker 01

  I do, I think that amusement parks are awesome, and I think it would be really fun if all three of us went, and maybe we went for free, 'cause Margaret, can you get us in for free, and can I bring my edibles?

• 9:45Speaker 03

  Oh, you, you know, oh my gosh, uh, you're, you're bringing in all the things that I wanna talk about, um, in...

• 9:52Conan O'Brien?

  Do it. How many people go to theme parks high, do you think? What's the percentage?

• 9:57Speaker 02

  How many people don't go to theme parks?

• 9:59Speaker 03

  A lot, exactly, a lot.

• 10:00Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, so that's the thing, because Sona told me that she used to get loaded up on gummies and then go to Disneyland for the day, or Six Flags, or, um, what is it? What else you went to?

• 10:11Speaker 01

  Universal.

• 10:12Conan O'Brien?

  Universal.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  Nauts, yeah.

• 10:14Conan O'Brien?

  And I don't even know why there needed to be a theme park there, because I think you could have wandered around, in the state you were in, you could have wandered around a split-level garage and had just as much of a visual experience.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  All right, you know what? I'm trying to get us a free trip to Disneyland, and you're just harshing my buzz, bro.

• 10:29Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, sorry to squash your mellow.

• 10:31Speaker 03

  I think, in addition to bringing back Clueless Gamer, you need to have a theme park goer, a clueless theme park goer. And just have all three of you go-

• 10:42Conan O'Brien?

  That's a really good idea.

• 10:43Speaker 03

  -to different theme parks and all over the world, all over the world, go to all these different theme parks, and just let you three loose and do all the things. I think that's gonna be super entertaining for us to watch.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  Would Disney have an issue if we just Gorilla did a podcast? We wouldn't carry anything, like, obtrusive, just little lapel mics or something?

• 11:03Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, they're not, they don't, they don't even have a legal team at Disney. That's what I've heard, they're just very free and easy.

• 11:09Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying, though, it's better to ask forgiveness than permission, I would assume, for something like that, right? Because they'd never let us do it.

• 11:15Conan O'Brien?

  The answer is no.

• 11:16Speaker 02

  No.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, Margaret would know, I feel like she would know.

• 11:19Conan O'Brien?

  Margaret, yeah, you're here. I think it would be a no.

• 11:22Speaker 03

  I think the moment you walk in with, especially with Conan, they're, they're gonna jump on that immediately.

• 11:28Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 11:28Speaker 03

  They're gonna recognize-

• 11:29Conan O'Brien?

  I'm like a guy who's passed a bad check in every restaurant in town.

• 11:32Speaker 02

  If we have hidden mics, they wouldn't know, you know what I mean?

• 11:34Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, but now you're talking about it, and I think this is gonna, this is gonna go out.

• 11:38Speaker 02

  But there's nothing illegal with recording your voice in the podcast, they shot a whole movie there, remember?

• 11:43Speaker 03

  Well, there's a lot of YouTubers who do it, right? They'll go into any theme park and talk about it, and they're carrying all their GoPros.

• 11:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. Because we had that, my wife and I did a Disney podcast about working at theme parks, and we did it, you know, without asking.

• 11:58Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, but you can go under the radar pretty easily, I think.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know that.

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  Yeah.

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• 15:04Conan O'Brien?

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  Yeah.

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• 15:15Speaker 01

  A vase.

• 15:16Conan O'Brien?

  No, I don't want a vase. I want something better.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  A jacket.

• 15:20Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, nice jacket. I love a nice jacket.

• 15:22Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that jacket, nice jacket.

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  Aw, man, I didn't know you were doing that.

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  Okay.

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• 17:23Speaker 01

  I have a question. What's your favorite theme park?

• 17:26Speaker 03

  Oh, well, I mean, I do have to say Disneyland. But I grew up in Singapore. And when I was a little girl, I went to this very unusual amusement park called Haopar Villa. And it's not a place that people would know about, but it's all about, you know, Chinese myths and like legends and all this. And they would carve these like full-size sculptures and dioramas of what they would do to you if you end up going to hell.

• 17:58Conan O'Brien?

  Wow.

• 17:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:00Conan O'Brien?

  This sounds, this sounds like I have to see this.

• 18:02Speaker 02

  Don't go high and don't get high and go there.

• 18:05Speaker 03

  And pulling out your guts.

• 18:06Conan O'Brien?

  It's like the anti-small world.

• 18:11Conan O'Brien?

  It is. It is. I never thought about it that way, but it's true. It's not optimistic, it's not cheerful.

• 18:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  It's a cautionary tale.

• 18:19Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 18:19Speaker 03

  It's a cautionary tale of what could happen to you if you lie and cheat and murder.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  A world of loathing, a world of fear.

• 18:25Conan O'Brien?

  It's a world of constant pain in your rear.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Oh my god, wasn't that the Disney lawyers on the song?

• 18:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 18:34Conan O'Brien?

  Um, they don't have our number. We keep moving.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  I think they have everyone's number.

• 18:38Conan O'Brien?

  You know, uh, I feel like, I'm starting to hear about celebrities making theme parks. Nate Bargatze was on the podcast not long ago, and he's gonna make, um, a, a, a theme park that he wants to be very family-friendly and fun, and I think it's gonna be in Tennessee, in, uh, outside Nashville. And it sounded like a great idea, he's taking it very seriously, and he was telling us he's meeting with some people at Disney to get advice. Um, and so this is becoming a thing, is celebrities having theme parks. Dollywood, yeah, that's been around for a while. Do you see this as a new trend?

• 19:15Speaker 03

  Uh, it's not, it's not necessarily a trend, I mean, it's been around for a while, I mean, if Walt Disney, you know, did it, right, like, why not anyone else?

• 19:24Speaker 02

  I think I know where this is going. Conan land.

• 19:26Speaker 03

  So, exactly.

• 19:28Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 19:29Speaker 03

  So, Conan land is a thing, Coco land, however you wanna call it.

• 19:33Conan O'Brien?

  Well, it sounds like they're already doing it in Singapore.

• 19:37Conan O'Brien?

  You get on a boat, you go through every stage of hell, and then you come out and you have a prominent eye vein.

• 19:43Speaker 01

  For you, it's just weird things like sex talk, that's hell for you.

• 19:47Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Or like, uh, not, you know, getting a B on a test in high school.

• 19:51Conan O'Brien?

  Having a conversation with someone where you lock eyes. Oh, being complimented.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was just gonna say.

• 19:56Conan O'Brien?

  Being complimented. If you go through one part where someone says, "I enjoy your work, ahh!"

• 20:04Speaker 03

  Well, I, I think that all of you should individually have a ride. And I have ideas, but I wanna hear.

• 20:11Conan O'Brien?

  Let's hear it.

• 20:12Speaker 03

  I, okay.

• 20:13Conan O'Brien?

  Start with Matt.

• 20:14Speaker 03

  So, um, I think, well, who should I start with first? Because I can go, uh, you, yeah. I'll start with Conan.

• 20:22Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 20:22Speaker 03

  So I think Conan's ride is a, a ginger colored, high speed roller coaster.

• 20:30Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 20:30Speaker 03

  That goes up and down, twists and turns, completely unexpected.

• 20:34Conan O'Brien?

  And it never ends.

• 20:35Speaker 03

  We have to have, and it never ends. And there has to be the string dance involved in it somehow. So maybe two coasters.

• 20:41Conan O'Brien?

  It shakes erratically at times.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  Yes, and maybe.

• 20:45Conan O'Brien?

  Is it an unsafe ride?

• 20:47Speaker 03

  It could be.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  Oh, I see what you're saying there, that like the tether clips and then you fall like Tower of Terror.

• 20:51Speaker 03

  And you fall, there's a free fall.

• 20:54Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 20:54Speaker 03

  Right? And it could be.

• 20:55Conan O'Brien?

  Great.

• 20:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. And so I think that that would be a really good one for you, Conan.

• 20:59Conan O'Brien?

  As long as when you get off, your skin is dry.

• 21:04Conan O'Brien?

  And you're, and you're questioning some of your decisions in life. That's the only thing I want people to, I don't want them to have that rush of endorphins when they get off. I want them to just sort of feel queasy, dry skin, again, prominent eye vein, and, uh, just worried, worried about past choices. Um, let's move on to Sona, Sona, what's your, what's her ride gonna be?

• 21:27Speaker 03

  Okay, so Sona, I'm envisioning like a lazy river boar ride.

• 21:34Conan O'Brien?

  You had me at lazy.

• 21:35Speaker 03

  So, so you're gonna, gonna, every, every visitor who steps in, they get a gummy.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 21:42Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 21:43Speaker 03

  They go on the ride. They get a gummy and then you're gonna have plush seating on this like gondola type of ride. And you're going through all of the scenes, all of your biggest dreams. So everything from like scenes of like Magic Mike.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:58Speaker 03

  You know, just going there and just like music, beautiful music and all of your favorite shows, all your reality shows coming to life around you, right?

• 22:09Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, and there's a bucket of, uh, like hummus and chips. No, but you love hummus.

• 22:14Speaker 01

  I do.

• 22:15Conan O'Brien?

  You had it yesterday.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  Why do you keep bringing it up?

• 22:17Conan O'Brien?

  Because I just see, I picture.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  Margaret's talking about Magic Mike.

• 22:20Conan O'Brien?

  No, but on the, and if you're loaded up on gummies, you're sitting there, there's a bucket of hummus. And you have, doesn't it sound good?

• 22:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it does sound good.

• 22:28Conan O'Brien?

  And a really good bread and you're just.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  Hush, it's hush.

• 22:32Speaker 01

  I know, I like, I love my ride. Keep going.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  There's more?

• 22:37Speaker 03

  Well, maybe, and it could be that, you know, you exit through a gift shop and there you could have the hummus and all of that stuff too.

• 22:45Speaker 02

  Okay, okay.

• 22:46Speaker 03

  And then come back and come back on the ride, you know, so it's, it's however you want it to be, right?

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Right.

• 22:52Speaker 03

  And that's kind of like your way. I feel like it's like, you know what? I'm just gonna do this right now. I'm not gonna do that right now, right?

• 22:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, literally.

• 23:00Speaker 03

  And maybe every once, once in a while we'll hear Conan and the speaker being like, Sona, Sona, I need this, right? You know, whatever, but then you ignore it.

• 23:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:08Speaker 03

  You just ignore it.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  Go with the flow. Literally go with the flow.

• 23:10Conan O'Brien?

  There's a sort of robotic Conan that pops out every now and then and starts to say, "I need your assistance with," and then you can just push it aside. And it goes, "Ohhhhh!" And melts away, right?

• 23:23Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 23:24Conan O'Brien?

  You have like a little wand and you can just, you can just do a flick of your wand and, "Ohhhhh!" I disappear. Okay, Gourley, I gotta hear Gourley.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  This is awesome.

• 23:35Speaker 03

  All right, so Gourley, I'm thinking it has to be a dark ride. And when we say dark ride, it's a fully enclosed indoor ride. And I'm thinking like an Omni mover, like haunted mansion, right? So an Omni mover is constantly flowing, very smooth, and instead of that, the Doom buggy, it'll be like a really plush leather upholstered armchair.

• 24:00Speaker 02

  I love this.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  And when you get in, you have a whiskey or a cocktail in hand.

• 24:04Speaker 02

  Oh my god. This is great.

• 24:07Speaker 03

  And as you go in, it's kind of mid-century retro. You'll hear vinyl records, a scratchy sound.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:13Speaker 03

  Your voice, Gourley, in the speakers. And you're taking everyone on this very calm and smooth journey through a thrilling ride of what your imagination and your dreams are too. So maybe it's going through a flea market and maybe...

• 24:30Speaker 02

  You've incepted into her your version of me.

• 24:33Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, I have.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  Everyone's wearing tweed. You had a tweed jacket.

• 24:39Conan O'Brien?

  I love it. I love it. You're coasting along and you're in like an Eames chair, like a mid-century chair.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 24:46Conan O'Brien?

  And all the architecture of the ride is very craftsman, right? It's just Pasadena Craftsman.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 24:54Conan O'Brien?

  It's nice. This is a great ride. And I love the cocktail idea.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  And just every rider gets a cat on their lap.

• 25:01Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 25:02Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, yes.

• 25:04Conan O'Brien?

  And I love the idea. I love this. My only request, Margaret, is that all three rides collide at the end.

• 25:09Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 25:10Conan O'Brien?

  So the Conan ride smashes into the Gourley, smashes into the Sona. They all smash into the same place. And there's some injuries every time.

• 25:18Speaker 02

  And that's the podcast.

• 25:19Conan O'Brien?

  That's the, yeah, exactly.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  But we wanted to have a happy ending. And once you crash and collide, you step out. And then you have a nice smores, chill chums moment.

• 25:32Conan O'Brien?

  God, she's very good.

• 25:33Speaker 03

  So it's a picnic.

• 25:34Conan O'Brien?

  Margaret, you're very good. You're very good.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  It's a picnic. So you're all sitting down and there's a bonfire and you're all roasting marshmallows and doing, and just meeting all your guests too, right? And there you can really be a true friend and fan.

• 25:48Conan O'Brien?

  Well, greenlit. Greenlit. I say, Margaret, first of all, delightful talking to you. I love this idea. I will take care of the money. I will get us the money. I can raise this money. And by that, I mean, I will never make one phone call. I won't do anything. But this is a very cool, it's a cool idea. I like it. And you're a very impressive person. And very cool to have you as a fan. I just love that you get to do this for a living and you're clearly amazing at it, so. And you know what? I think Sona's right. I think you should use your pull to get the three of us, you know, some, I don't know, some free tickets to these.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. I have one last question for you, Margaret. Are you a blue milk or a green milk girl?

• 26:29Speaker 03

  Oh, you know what? I do have to say more green milk.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 26:34Speaker 03

  More. Oh, good. Nice.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  It tastes like fruity pebbles, Conan. You'd like that.

• 26:38Conan O'Brien?

  I am proud that I don't know what you're talking about.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  Well, and if we do go to Disneyland, I meant I want Margaret to come with us.

• 26:47Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, you'd come with us, Margaret.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, not just get us tickets, but to come with us.

• 26:50Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, that's implied. You would come with us, and maybe if you came with us, we wouldn't need tickets, because you'd be the person to know.

• 26:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. I would love that. I would love to bring you guys, yes.

• 27:00Conan O'Brien?

  And I want one of the Hall of Presidents Presidents to join us, maybe Reagan. Well, well, well, beep beep beep, well, well, well. It would come with us.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  Beep beep.

• 27:09Conan O'Brien?

  Beep beep beep, well. And it's just Reagan saying beep beep, boop boop. Well, well, beep beep, boop boop. Well, well, it's time to start dropping bombs on Russia. Beep beep, boop boop. All right, Margaret, delightful talking to you, really. Thank you so much.

• 27:23Speaker 03

  Yes, thank you so much. Can I show you one other thing, though?

• 27:26Conan O'Brien?

  Yep, go ahead.

• 27:28Speaker 03

  I have a picture of us together.

• 27:30Conan O'Brien?

  When was that taken?

• 27:32Speaker 03

  So, this was a few years ago.

• 27:34Conan O'Brien?

  I snuck into your house. Looks like I came into your house at four in the morning.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  Why is she asleep in that photo?

• 27:39Conan O'Brien?

  I know, I know.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  You were in Firefly Bistro in Studio City, and I saw you walk in. I literally saw you walk in with a man.

• 27:50Conan O'Brien?

  I'm allowed to hang out with men.

• 27:52Speaker 02

  There's this mysterious bow.

• 27:54Speaker 01

  No one questioned it, and then you made it suspicious.

• 27:57Conan O'Brien?

  She said you walked in with a man.

• 28:00Conan O'Brien?

  My private life is my private life.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  You're like, okay.

• 28:02Conan O'Brien?

  My wife listens to this podcast, and she can't know that I went to a restaurant with a man!

• 28:11Speaker 03

  I waited for you to finish your dinner, and I, you know, I've never asked anyone to take a selfie with me, any celebrity, nothing like that. And my friend saw that I was visibly like, oh my gosh, it's Conan, blah blah. And she, we saw you leave, she grabbed my arm, and she's like, we're taking a picture of Conan. And so, we ran after you. You were waiting for your car in the valley, and I came up to you and said, Conan, I'm a huge fan, I'd like to take a picture with you. And you were very nice and took a picture with me.

• 28:41Conan O'Brien?

  I think that's, I like to be nice to people, if I can. How much did I ask? When, excuse us, what?

• 28:48Speaker 01

  You like to what? To strangers?

• 28:50Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, to strangers, I'm very nice.

• 28:52Speaker 02

  Or to whoever this man is.

• 28:57Conan O'Brien?

  Bartholomew? I don't want his name on your lips.

• 29:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:02Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I, uh, yes. Now, once you get to know me, Margaret, your life will be a hell. But when you're a stranger, I couldn't be more pleasing. So I'm glad, I'm glad we had that moment and we'll have another one. Because I make repeat appearances all over the world.

• 29:17Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, I hope to see you again and I'll bring all three of you to Disneyland.

• 29:22Conan O'Brien?

  Very good, great. Thanks a lot, Margaret.

• 29:24Speaker 03

  Thank you, bye.

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