Where Are They Now?

It’s a staple of entertainment shows and those clickbait-y links at the bottom of the page on news websites: Where are they now? What happened to those famous TV stars of your youth? You’ll never believe what so-and-so is up to today. Funnily enough, Marcus Aurelius liked to play this game too. He’d say: Think about the emperors who came before you. Think about this famous conqueror or that notorious philosopher. Think of the wealthy or the powerful with their insatiable appetites and ambitions. Where are they now? They’re dead. That’s what he’d say. They’re dead and gone and almost completely forgotten. It’s a humbling thought, one that we could all be reminded of from time to time. Because the celebrity stories are skewed by the survivorship bias. The reporter either tells you about how so-and-so went on to huge stardom or how they struggled with addiction for years but are finally turning things around. Maybe the story tells you that the band broke up and now that rockstar is a school teacher in Cleveland. But inevitably, where they are now is “alive.” It’s never that the hard hand of fate took them from us too early. It’s never that international fame helped them beat cancer. It’s never that they got old, drifted into obscurity, passed away, and the world moved on. But this happens and it is inexorable. No matter who we are or what we’re doing. We all, in our own way, with enough time, end up like the punchline in this Clickhole article: 7 Famous Dogs From The ’90s That Are Definitely Dead Now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. 📢 Share | ⚙️ Manage Subscription

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• 0:06Ryan Holiday?

  Welcome to The Daily Stoic, where each day we read a short passage designed to help you cultivate the strength, insight, wisdom necessary for living the good life. Each one of these passages is based on the 2,000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women. For more, you can visit us at dailystoic.com. Where are they now? It's a staple of entertainment shows and those clickbaity links at the bottom of the page on news websites. Where are they now? What happened to those famous TV stars of your youth? You'll never believe what so-and-so is up to. Funnily enough, Marcus Aurelius liked to play this game, too. He'd say, "Think about the emperors who came before you. Think about

• 0:50Ryan Holiday?

  this famous conqueror or that notorious philosopher. Think of the wealthy or the powerful with their insatiable appetites and ambitions." Where are they now? "They're dead," that's what he'd say. "They're dead and gone and almost completely forgotten." It's a humbling thought, one we could all use a reminder of from time to time, because the celebrity stories are skewed by the survivorship bias. The reporter either tells you about how so-and-so went on to huge stardom, or how they struggled with addiction for years but are finally turning things around. Maybe the story tells you that the band broke up and now the rock star is a schoolteacher in Cleveland. But inevitably, where they are now is alive. It's never the hard hand of fate

• 1:34Ryan Holiday?

  took us from them too early. It's never that international fame didn't help them beat cancer. It's never that they got old, drifted into obscurity, passed away, and the world moved on. But this happens, and it is inexorable. No matter who we are or what we are doing, we are, all, in our own way and with enough time, end up like the punchline in this clickhole article: Seven Famous Dogs from the '90s That Are Definitely Dead Now. If you like the podcast that we do here, and you want to get it via email every morning, you can sign up at dailystoic.com/email.